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It will be ignored...

Amestria you cannot ignore other people leaving, shut up please.

So you are unhappy that we have come closer to reaching a deal?

Thats not what i said, read it properly, im unhappy you crapped on all night about us not being fair and then just agreed with what weve been saying ONLY BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE SAID IT.

RP your troops leaving, Amestria, so that we can put tonight's tomfoolery behind us and continue with the RP. None of us will stop you.

I will get to it tommarow... In the meantime please get rid of all those IC posts about n00king Torontia...

I've read every post in this thread and nobody except Amestria has made posts about leaving that I've seen.

TG's are a wonderful thing

I will get to it tommarow... In the meantime please get rid of all those IC posts about n00king Torontia...

Xirnium never said anything about missiles, bullets, or anything let alone nukes.

Thats not what i said, read it properly, im unhappy you crapped on all night about us not being fair and then just agreed with what weve been saying ONLY BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE SAID IT.

Someone who I respect, someone who had no stake in what is going on, and who also gave me some very helpful suggestions...(and was polite)

Xirnium never said anything about missiles, bullets, or anything let alone nukes.

Read the posts, it is quite clear what they have in mind...

I will get to it tommarow... In the meantime please get rid of all those IC posts about n00king Torontia...
I will get rid of nothing, there is nothing objectionable in my posts. You're going to tell me where I can move my fleets now too, are you? I suggest you worry about RPing your own forces and allow others to RP theirs.

I will get rid of nothing, there is nothing objectionable in my posts. I suggest you worry about RPing your own forces and allow others to RP theirs.

This is insane...

Read the posts, it is quite clear what they have in mind...

All I see is that they're leaving and they have further instructions. You, ICly, wouldn't know they had further instructions. I don't see what the big deal is.

They are going to blow up Torontia out of spite...

They are going to blow up Torontia out of spite...

You don't know that.

You don't know that.

It is quite clear OOC!

It is quite clear OOC!

No, it isn't.

And what do you think they mean by "purge" and "cooking the "goose." Plus one of the posts is a clear godmod because it involves magic and the RPing of my losses...

You're being paranoid Amestria. Why is it always one OOC crisis to the next with you?

And what do you think they mean by "purge" and "cooking the "goose." Plus one of the posts is a clear godmod because it involves magic and the RPing of my losses...

1) Yallak posted "national purge". I take that to mean he's purging Torontia of his troops. I doubt he's going to nuke it.

2) Xirnium posted the "new orders" post that you were ignoring or something.

3) Saint Fedski posted the post that RPed your losses, and there's no magic. That's what is known as metaphor

You're being paranoid Amestria. Why is it always one OOC crisis to the next with you?

Then how about you explain everything to me...

And what do you think they mean by "purge" and "cooking the "goose."

I'll explain... you brought up the goose.

I'll explain... you brought up the goose.

What is that supposed to mean...

3) Saint Fedski posted the post that RPed your losses, and there's no magic. That's what is known as metaphor
Yes I did RP his losses. It has been a couple days since he oocly bitched about Sniper Country's and my special forces landing and capturing the patrol leader. He didn't post an IC response to the firefight, but has made other IC posts since. So if I want to get my guys out of their, the Amestrian patrol has to die or run away. And if Amestrian won't do it, someone had to.

Then how about you explain everything to me...
Wargames are over, so the fleet is moving to a new position. How does this effect your decision to withdraw troops? Why must we turn it into a drama? Why must we turn everything into a drama?

What is that supposed to mean...

Just what it says, you mentioned the goose, i just returned the favour by including it in my reply.

What is going on, will someone just give me a clear answer.

Then I will post on it tommarow, it is late where I am at...

But what is everyone planning, I want a real answer?

But what is everyone planning, I want a real answer?
Would you believe me if I told you that the High Ecclesiarchy's plans are in a constant state of flux, altering with the slightest political change to masterfully achieve their desired ends? Because that is the truth. There is no "plan" as such.

But I am sick and tired of you turning every minor issue into an OOC fracas.

If your withdrawing why does it matter

Would you believe me if I told you that the High Ecclesiarchy's plans are in a constant state of flux, altering with the slightest political change to masterfully achieve their desired ends? Because that is the truth. There is no "plan" as such.

I mean OOC...

If your withdrawing why does it matter

I want to know! It is that simple...

I mean OOC...
Unlike you, Amestria, OOC does not drive my RPs. IC does.

Unlike you, Amestria, OOC does not drive my RPs. IC does.

OOC does not drive my RPs either.

I'm preparing to invade again.

I'm preparing to invade again.
:confused:

:confused:
What does it matter to you, you're leaving. Why is this too an OOC issue?

:confused:

It means he's preparing to invade Torontia again, best as I can figure it out.

What does it matter to you, you're leaving.

Why not then give me a full answer, what could it hurt?

Whatever happened to the Zombie RP idea, (still reading through the last 10+ pages generated in the space of less than 12 hours) it sounds like a good idea, especially since the other once similar to it, War Undone by War has pretty much died, I personally could see a Black SKull Enforcer mission being inserted into such an event, as well as an Admiral Kukonois force going in, for purposes of finding out more about this virus.

Personally I think less time should be spent on OOC arguing and more on IC action...

Personally I think less time should be spent on OOC arguing and more on IC action...

Thank Amestria for that. The rest of us wanted to keep RPing.....

Thank Amestria for that. The rest of us wanted to keep RPing.....

Sure...blame me...

It does however take more than one to argue, I don't know the history of these arguments, since if this is anything to go on, I cringe at the thought of re-reading through the other threads.

Perhaps in future it would be best to simply ignore provactive statements.

Why not then give me a full answer, what could it hurt?
No. I refuse to play this childish game with you anymore. The OOC thread is for OOC disputes that need to be reconciled to continue the RP. It is not designed to post pages and pages of pointless discussions of no importance.

I'm making a stand for reason, Amestria. If you have a legitimate concern I will respond, otherwise no. I’m not about to post half a page of different musings going on in my mind of various possible IC ways to advance the IC goals of the High Ecclesiarchy.

You can make your own conclusions about what the High Ecclesiarchy may be planning from my IC posts. This nonesense has gone on long enough.

Yeah, rule by majority Amestria, accept that! Or else we should make an OOC version of the Idiot Godmodder Noncontinuity Omni Repellent Eradicator cannon to put an end to Ames...

I simply misunderstood...

It does however take more than one to argue, I don't know the history of these arguments, since if this is anything to go on, I cringe at the thought of re-reading through the other threads.

Perhaps in future it would be best to simply ignore provactive statements.

Trust me don't read the crap in those previous pages. It does take two, but it also takes two to RP, a bit hard when one keeps ignoring everything thats going on - it kind of destroys the RP

Yeah, rule by majority Amestria, accept that! Or else we should make an OOC version of the Idiot Godmodder Noncontinuity Omni Repellent Eradicator cannon to put an end to Ames...

I cringe every time I see the spelled out version of ignore cannon that nobody uses anymore.

Despite the rubbish of the past dozen pages, we did reach a consensus and that, at least, is good. It shows a good deal of maturity. If I may summarise:

-Amestria can withdraw, we will not try to stop them.
-The RP continues from there.

Trust me don't read the crap in those previous pages. It does take two, but it also takes two to RP, a bit hard when one keeps ignoring everything thats going on - it kind of destroys the RP

No one listens to me; no one ever cares what I have to say... Everyone insults me... No one appreciates me...everyone belittles me...

Xirnium, telegram.

Despite the rubbish of the past dozen pages, we did reach a consensus and that,at least, is good. If I may summarise:

-Amestria can withdraw, we will not try to stop them.
-The RP continues from there.
-TPG is RPed by Mckagan after Amestria leaves...

I cringe every time I see the spelled out version of ignore cannon that nobody uses anymore.
Why is that Tannenmille?

It does however take more than one to argue, I don't know the history of these arguments, since if this is anything to go on, I cringe at the thought of re-reading through the other threads.

Perhaps in future it would be best to simply ignore provactive statements.

I second this, I left this thread at 4:30 this morning, and woke up at about 12 and it had jumped to page 30 from page 13, To be quite frank, This has gone beyond a Joke, and why A Moderator hasn't locked this thread is beyond me.

-TPG is RPed by Mckagan after Amestria leaves...
Sure, why not...

woe is you amestria.

But Xirnium is correct - an arrangement was finally made - and so seeing my clock says 1:30 and it and everything around is almost becoming fuzy I will be off to bed now.

Why is that Tannenmille?

Because it's such a stupid thing. It's a backronym that's not funny or cute, it's just painful to read.

I second this, I left this thread at 4:30 this morning, and woke up at about 12 and it had jumped to page 30 from page 13, To be quite frank, This has gone beyond a Joke, and why A Moderator hasn't locked this thread is beyond me.

It was beyond a joke when we actually had to make a second OOC thread!!

Kraven, I beleive we have found something that surpassess the OOC Bickering of the second war, which is the exact reason I did not join it, it is a good thing this was closed since no-one would have joiuned it upon realisation of the massive arguments.

BTW Xirnium, I thought you were going to try and make your presence felt in War Undone by War, your posting might get it moving again, all the moving I tried to do has failed basically.

It was beyond a joke when we actually had to make a second OOC thread!!

Half OOC thread1 was meaningless chatter, not arguement...

It was beyond a joke when we actually had to make a second OOC thread!!

This.... is..... the.... Second.... OOC.... Thread?.....

This.... is..... the.... Second.... OOC.... Thread?.....

The first one was over one hundred pages... Although it was 50% chatter...

This.... is..... the.... Second.... OOC.... Thread?.....

Yep - last one reached 113 pages - Thats more pages than DMG's military industries has.

BTW Xirnium, I thought you were going to try and make your presence felt in War Undone by War, your posting might get it moving again, all the moving I tried to do has failed basically.
There are a lot of RPs that require my attention, that one, your diplomacy one, the space exploration one I was going to start, the exchange of ways one, the terrorists in my country one...

Seems that something has been sucking up all my time, I wonder what? (hint: it's a certain OOC thread)

Anyway, I'll put it on the list.

I thought this was the third, I saw another floating around.

how can people waste time on arguing, you could have channeled your anger into an IC soloution.

Yep - last one reached 113 pages - Thats more pages than DMG's military industries has.

Wow... Im Shocked that its been allowed to go this far...

The first one wasn't really arguing...most of it was just BS conversation and "you have a tg" kind of thing. Although towards the end it became just like this.

I would definetly say this one has sucked up a collosal amount of time, oh well at least the lull elsewhere has given me time to finish up some of the Black SKull Enforcer Training Regimen, Operation Descening Sword as well as fleshing out the Psychic Invasion.

Honestly though either nuke each other and end this or end it some other way, I can see why this has ended and I admire all involved for sticking it out for so long.

I thought this was the third, I saw another floating around.

how can people waste time on arguing, you could have channeled your anger into an IC soloution.

Some of us wanted to, others just wanted to make up their own ending to the story regardless of previous posts etc.

I would have much prefered writing ICly believe me

Some of us wanted to, others just wanted to make up their own ending to the story regardless of previous posts etc.


(assuming you are refering to me) That is not true!

Wow... Im Shocked that its been allowed to go this far...

We should start a club then... compared to this i'd choose war with your PMT super soldiers any day

The total amount of pages the OOC threads have reached is about 113 + 38 = 151. Wow indeed Kraven.

We should start a club then... compared to this i'd choose war with your PMT super soldiers any day
Hell, I'd rather take on Axis Nova's flying battleships. ;)

Alright. Let's stop this for a while. I can see that Yallak is tired. Amestria is going nuts. Xirnium is going nuts and getting pissed off. I'm confused and getting tired.

I would as well, expecially since said subject makes an interesting RP subject, though I wouldn't say they are so super anymore hehe, though I'd have to wait for my Xharn Campaign to either wind down or get into full swing before commiting elsewhere, either that or cap off my commitment to that theatre at a total of 30 million (in case Xharn picks up on it, that's Navy the land forces air force logistics and assorted other things)

I have a fair few counters to Axis Nova's Flying Battleships, and before anyone wants to claim that my Jindraxes are in the same league they are most certainly not, or at least not at conception they were, unlike those things of his mine have weaknessess, but since they haven't had much action (owing to their rarity) they haven't had time to manifest themselves :p

Contary to what people think I am not going nuts (I am either already crazy or its everyone else). Goodnight, and at least we got a record out of this forsaken thread...

Hell, I'd rather take on Axis Nova's flying battleships. ;)

Ah yes the ones with the giant lasers on them too i believe

Giant Lasers? I thought they fired Lightning Bolts and gave birth to thunder clouds :p

We should start a club then... compared to this i'd choose war with your PMT super soldiers any day

hehe, Can Be arranged...

Alright. Let's stop this for a while. I can see that Yallak is tired. Amestria is going nuts. Xirnium is going nuts and getting pissed off. I'm confused and getting tired.

A long while... I suggest a new record... let us see how long we can go WITHOUT MAKING CRAPPY OOC POSTS...

I really am off this time, so i talk to you all later

goonight (/day depending on where you live)

Giant Lasers? I thought they fired Lightning Bolts and gave birth to thunder clouds :p

Well it had some ungodly godmod weapon anyway

hehe, Can Be arranged...

haha i don't doubt that at all

10am here. I am late for bed as well.

A long while...
Indeed. It may have taken all night but we solved the problem and the RP is back online. Let's keep it that way.

This is the last post from me too, I'm in Yallak's timezone, it's nearing 2AM and today is a Monday. Later, all.

With the comments made in here it looks like I'd better take to the drawing board again, and do some modification to my Jindrax Sky Fortress' I don't want them lumbered in the same boat.

I would like the idea of another conflict with you Kraven, the last one was fun to read and respond to, so many good writers in one RP can be nothing but good.

it's nearly 3PM here for me so it's not that late lol, rather early really.

Nova, what you think of me?

What really would be interesting would be CAD vs. the AKA. My money's on CAD.

With the comments made in here it looks like I'd better take to the drawing board again, and do some modification to my Jindrax Sky Fortress' I don't want them lumbered in the same boat.

I would like the idea of another conflict with you Kraven, the last one was fun to read and respond to, so many good writers in one RP can be nothing but good.

it's nearly 3PM here for me so it's not that late lol, rather early really.

Its around that time for me too, where you from?

And yes, it appears that Kahanistan may have sparked off the Psychology thread again...

"You have 20 seconds to Comply..."

British, probably, I can't think of too many other people in that time zone, and I think Xirnium and Yallak are Australian, and probably Amestria too. I'm American.

I am American as well...

Where abouts in the US?

I'm probably the only person in Hong Kong.

Im British and i'm an Evil Genius...

I'm probably the only person in Hong Kong.

So you really live in Southeast Asia... Tell me, are you involved with the democracy movement?

Im British and i'm an Evil Genius...

Thats nothing special, everyone knows all Englishmen are insane Evil Genius at heart, just looking for a chance to spring upon an unsuspecting world...

Actually, in between. Hong Kong is neither too far North nor too far South. And no, I'm not involved with the democracy movement as I feel it will be quite a few long decades before China becomes democratic.

Thats nothing special, everyone knows all Englishmen are insane Evil Genius at heart, just looking for a chance to spring upon an unsuspecting world...

You've just described me down to a T... :D

Where abouts in the US?

Says so in my profile under OOC, but South Carolina, in the eastern part of the country.

So it does. Not to warm down there is it? A big 48F in Myrtle Beach. I would consider it summer, but down there its like a deep freeze isn't it?

Kahanistan...TG...

Freezing.

I'm british as well heh, Northerner, freezing outside with the apparantly mild weather, though compared to the ice that came the day after christmas I understand why it's mild, at least comprativley.

If Kahanistan hadn't restarted it I would have given it some Psychic Prodding :D

I'm british as well heh, Northerner, freezing outside with the apparantly mild weather, though compared to the ice that came the day after christmas I understand why it's mild, at least comprativley.

If Kahanistan hadn't restarted it I would have given it some Psychic Prodding :D

Northerner? Where from?

Newcastle.

Newcastle.

Upon tyne? I live in County Durham or there abouts

Give the man a bottle of Brown Ale he hit the nail right on the head :p

Give the man a bottle of Brown Ale he hit the nail right on the head :p

Sweet man!, What are the odds of that??

Just go to show it's a small world after all, well in RL that is lol

Just go to show it's a small world after all, well in RL that is lol

Lol, I was up in newcastle on Friday night, at Legends Rock night... fantastic, Didn't play any slayer though... :(

Was on the late shift that night, I wouldn't have minded going, pity really.

Was on the late shift that night, I wouldn't have minded going, pity really.

What do you do? mind if you had done, we'd have walked right past each other and not known.

propably, then again though I'm not the type of person people forget easily lol.

I work as a Pool Lifeguard, so I see plenty of the Human Condition, and usually not too good a side of it :(

Wow, go to bed at 130AM, and wake up at 1230PM with nearly thirty pages to read. Joy! Seriously, I think my eyes are bleeding after reading all of that. Can anyone definativly explain the comprimises made, because after reading that I am still lost.

BTW Kahanistan, I am in your timezone.

Congratulations on adding 30 pages to this thread while I slept.

I am withdrawing for OOC reasons and am trying to get IC reasons.

Why don't you just cite the war's tremendous unpopularity at home? If your country is really the "liberal democracy" you always claim it is, then there is no way your citizens would have stuck with the war for this long, with so little (if any) progress being made. It's like the U.S. in Iraq, except arguably worse. News of failed peace talks, the insurgency, threats of war with Saint Fedski: all of this would have gotten back to the people at home, unless you have a Propaganda Ministry censoring almost all the news coming out of Torontia, in which case you can't be a "liberal democracy." Hell, you could even have your citizens call for a special election to replace your President (a la California's special gubernatorial election, the one that brought Ah-nold to Sacramento) if you wanted!

Hal, TG.

propably, then again though I'm not the type of person people forget easily lol.

I work as a Pool Lifeguard, so I see plenty of the Human Condition, and usually not too good a side of it :(

Really? I've been interested in that, but never got hired anywhere, always too slow. :headbang: A lot of the people I hang out with are lifeguards, though.

So, what do you see of the human condition at pools that you don't see anywhere else?

A High concentration of fat ppl :P

You do see how stupid some people are, and also how blind, I have seen someone run straight into a large red and white sign that says "no running" and then dive in right next to a no diving sign and then asking why the pool isn't deep enough to dive in.

Of course you also see your fair deal of rude people who will hand their lcoker key and treat you like in NS's words a hyper intelligent Aubergine.

It's a fun job though, I just wouldn't recommend working at a pool operated by North Tyneside Council, where Black gunge oozes out of the drains the windows haven't been cleaned for years and half of the equipment is in urgent need of repair or has been entirely eaten.:p

from the anti conformist rebels we think that ever1 shud b free and that any capitalists shud bhe brought out into the street and shot we beilive that falling in line is bollucks and that liberation kicks ass if this is the topic of the liberation of orontia then i am strongly on the liberators side and wud happly go 2 war wiv any1 who is against liberartion peace 2 all:mp5: :sniper:

from the anti conformist rebels we think that ever1 shud b free and that any capitalists shud bhe brought out into the street and shot we beilive that falling in line is bollucks and that liberation kicks ass if this is the topic of the liberation of orontia then i am strongly on the liberators side and wud happly go 2 war wiv any1 who is against liberartion peace 2 all:mp5: :sniper:

Please get out and learn how to spell. I'm a capitalist, and just because of that I deserve to get drug out into the street and shot? You seriously, seriously need some psychiatry if that's the case.

from the anti conformist rebels we think that ever1 shud b free and that any capitalists shud bhe brought out into the street and shot we beilive that falling in line is bollucks and that liberation kicks ass if this is the topic of the liberation of orontia then i am strongly on the liberators side and wud happly go 2 war wiv any1 who is against liberartion peace 2 all:mp5: :sniper:

Dude, this thread is filled to the brim with shit as it is. Your retarded ass comments do not help this thread at all. I think everyone would appreciate it if you did not clutter the thread more.

Second of all, learn to spell, stop using smilies and my army is the size of your nation so I don't think you want to fight my capitalist ass. Good day.

Dude, this thread is filled to the brim with shit as it is. Your retarded ass comments do not help this thread at all. I think everyone would appreciate it if you did not clutter the thread more.

Second of all, learn to spell, stop using smilies and my army is the size of your nation so I don't think you want to fight my capitalist ass. Good day.

Thanks for speaking my mind for me :P

People in this RP have proven time and time again that they are very childish. It cannot be put anymore simple. Most of the main players have acted like 4 year olds the whole time, and I'm tired of it. Does anyone think they can convince me why I shouldn't just write a neutral ending and leave Torontia "open"?

Does anyone think they can convince me why I shouldn't just write a neutral ending and leave Torontia "open"?
Because we reached a compromise and, as of now, the RP is good to go.

come on it would be a shame for this to end with a whimper, it's been an interesting read, it's been a case of too much personality for some people to stomach, but that's changing since people are waking up.

Because we reached a compromise and, as of now, the RP is good to go.

What was the compromise? I showed up and the OOC thread was like way progressed and I don't feel like going back and looking. I'll allow it to happen if that's the case.

Amestria, are you still pulling out? If so, when do you want me to start landing troops to make up for that?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10226841#post10226841

Read from there to about 552, especially noting 549 and 552, and that's it really. Simple agreements are often best.

I think in this situation a Simple AGreement was going to be the only agreement.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10226841#post10226841

Read from there to about 552, especially noting 549 and 552, and that's it really. Simple agreements are often best.

Ah, that works. I'm going to go read the IC thread, and possibly begin moving my troops in. Does anyone know how many tanks Amestria has/had in Torontia?

Because we reached a compromise and, as of now, the RP is good to go.

Saint Fedski, the deal was that

1) Your puppets would no longer have a role, the Thorns post has not been deleted.

2) You would not attack or hinder me leaving, and yet I notice IC posts about your forces preparing to attack me...

OOC:OH GOOD GOD AMESTRIA! Just call me in! Ill send te Backfires after his fleet! And I can also airlift a Corps worth of troops into Western Torontia, all I am doing is waiting for your permission ICly. As for his bombers... SHOOT THEM DOWN! The B-52 is old and easily targetted by both Anti-Aircraft Artillery and Surface-Air Missiles, the B-1 is slightly harder to deal with(being faster and having a small radar signature), but it can still be taken down pretty easily. Thorns can easily be dealt with.(Real Life Tanks cannot stand up to NS grade gear(assuming you have NS grade gear)

We reached an agreement and now they are breaking it!

OOC:OH GOOD GOD AMESTRIA! Just call me in! Ill send te Backfires after his fleet! And I can also airlift a Corps worth of troops into Western Torontia, all I am doing is waiting for your permission ICly. As for his bombers... SHOOT THEM DOWN! The B-52 is old and easily targetted by both Anti-Aircraft Artillery and Surface-Air Missiles, the B-1 is slightly harder to deal with(being faster and having a small radar signature), but it can still be taken down pretty easily. Thorns can easily be dealt with.(Real Life Tanks cannot stand up to NS grade gear(assuming you have NS grade gear)

Feel free to have the TLA airfields be used as landing zones.

In futher news the TLA will be engaging.

Then simply pretend Thrornz isnt there! Shoot down his bombers and get me in on the action!

EDIT:TLA, the airfields your talking about are in Alaska, right? Your alot closer to Torontia then my nation(which is farther out into the Pacific). Send me the offer ICly and pray that your airfields can hold 200 Strategic Bombers and their crews.

Amestria, call Red Tide and I in if you really want to be done with SF. I've got an airforce hidden off the coast of Torontia.

See people. THIS is why I closed the RP....

Then simply pretend Thrornz isnt there! Shoot down his bombers and get me in on the action!

I am just going to ignore any attack period, as they agreed last night that I would be allowed to withdraw unhindered.

Amestria, call Red Tide and I in if you really want to be done with SF. I've got an airforce hidden off the coast of Torontia.

See people. THIS is why I closed the RP....

I don't want to be involved in the RP anymore and I thought we had an agreement for my withdrawal last night, but SF apparantly has other ideas!

Amestria: I had my commanding general send a message to your command dealing with your withdrawal. Respond to it, so I can land troops and secure the nation again.

Amestria: I had my commanding general send a message to your command dealing with your withdrawal. Respond to it, so I can land troops and secure the nation again.

Yallak and SF IC would not allow your forces to land and they would not agree OOC to alter their nations mentalities on that issue...

:lightbulb clicks on:

Hey! McKagan! Dont you now have control of the TPG and their armed forces?

:lightbulb clicks on:

Hey! McKagan! Dont you now have control of the TPG and their armed forces?

Not until Amestria withdraws, which still has not happened...

Red tide I sent the message, Amestria pretend your forces have mostly left by now leaving only TPG soldiers in the area, have McKagan use them, your soldiers could be under full evac and be safe from harm.

Attention
WE WILL RP AS IF AMESTRIA HAS ALREADY LEFT,
Does that sound okay Amestria?

Mckagan, I just want to leave the RP, but SF apparently does not want me too for some reason without difficulty.

If they refuse to keep their agreement later tonight then just end the thread how you want to...

Red tide I sent the message, Amestria pretend your forces have mostly left by now leaving only TPG soldiers in the area, have McKagan use them, your soldiers could be under full evac and be safe from harm.

Attention
WE WILL RP AS IF AMESTRIA HAS ALREADY LEFT,
Happy Amestria?

But I have not RPed their withdrawal yet...

Do what I did say they evacuated during the night, I didn't RP my forces leaving Victoria back in the first RP thread but they left anyway. I think Amestria had enough ships and planes on hand to leave quickly. Using fluid time say you left already, Saint Fedski can't contest that.

Do what I did say they evacuated during the night, I didn't RP my forces leaving Victoria back in the first RP thread but they left anyway. I think Amestria had enough ships and planes on hand to leave quickly. Using fluid time say you left already, Saint Fedski can't contest that.

I wanted to post on their leaving!

You know what... screw the go code, Ill hammer Sain Fedeski on my own time. My next post in the Ic thread will be my Backfire Regiments taking off.

I wanted to post on their leaving!
How about this?
EXAMPLE:
-12 Hours earlier-
The armies of Amestria had begun their withdraws. It was a massive undertaking but the majority of troops had been recalled to the coast, newly made TPG forces filled in the gaps lefted by the retreating Amestrias, with luck Saint Fedski wouldn't even notice.

(Continue it or edit it, remember fluid time)

How about this?
EXAMPLE:
-12 Hours earlier-
The armies of Amestria had begun their withdraws. It was a massive undertaking but the majority of troops had been recalled to the coast, newly made TPG forces filled in the gaps lefted by the retreating Amestrias, with luck Saint Fedski wouldn't even notice.

It would take a week for the Amestrians to leave!

Amestria, the puppet thing I agree with, but this transport thing you are being quite unreasonable about. If you want to go so bad, then take TLAs advice.

There was an agreement... We reached an agreement last night about my forces withdrawing unhindered. It was agreed, I would not fly anyone in, just leave and Mckagan would RP the TPG...

But this way they're out of the line of fire.
The Agreement broke, we'll say it has been a week then.
Can everyone make believe that this attack is occuring at the end of the Amestria occuipation?
If Saint Fedski doesn't like it well then they don't like it.

I am not going to make believe, lets just close the current thread (which is far to big anyway) and start a new one (which begins with the Amestrians pulling out and ignoring all meantion of an attack). If SF does not like that tough!

I can't believe I had to resort to this.
:headbang:
Not meaning to be mean, but Amestria.

We'll put it to vote.

Who wants Amestria to do it their way and have them leave without the attack (Which will happen as soon as Amestria's gone anyway.)

Or do we do both at once?

This is turning into quite the insanity of last night all over again. SF did agree to comprimise to let Amestria withdraw, no strings attached.

I am not going to make believe, lets just close the current thread (which is far to big anyway) and start a new one (which begins with the Amestrians pulling out and ignoring all meantion of an attack). If SF does not like that tough!

This sounds like a quite reasonable idea. Although I don't know if the attack should be ignored completely, because it would give me a reason to step in.

Would anyone have a problem with me doing an IC deployment of naval assets to international waters near Torontia? It would first stay in international waters, then probably attack whoever my gov't supports. Which would probably be Amestria because attacking an asset that is importantant to a fellow SWC member would call me in as an ally. Should you guys allow me to do it, I promise no gimmicks or betrayals.

Everyone agrees the main thread has gotten then too huge. Since an Amestrian withdrawal would be a major turning point a new thread should be started. Those posts SF made, which violate the agreement and I am currently ignoring, could be edited and cut/pasted upon the new thread once the pullout is done...

Amestria just RP your withdrawal over whatever time period you think is appropriate in fluidtime. No need to ignore anything, you'll be out of the thread.

There is no need to wait for you, just RP your withdrawal whenever you get around to it in fluditime. We'll assume you left already.

I have fixed everything (stands up for applause), there is a new IC thread and a new OOC thread. Amestria has withdrawn, the TPG is now RPed by Mckagan and the IC lose ends of Amestria's Torontian Occupation wrapped up in a satisfactory manner.

Of course, SF will have to repost his attacks/bombing raids (which were ignored on the old thread but will not be if posted on the new thread).

This epic RP has been reborn with the fresh start to what promises to be its third chapter. Thank you, thank you, thank you...(bows)

The New IC thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=463156

The New OOC thread (fresh start):

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10231336#post10231336

Saint Fedski, the deal was that

1) Your puppets would no longer have a role, the Thorns post has not been deleted.

2) You would not attack or hinder me leaving, and yet I notice IC posts about your forces preparing to attack me...
The deal was:

The "puppets" as you like to call them would not attack Amestria. They aren't. My buddies have been in Torontia since quite early in the RP and are doiong their own stuff like you asked for.

2) ICly I'm not hindering you leaving, infact, you're being helped. You're being forced back.

And secondly, I don't recall making any deal. I recall saying any Amestrian ships or planes approaching Torontia would be attacked and that as soon as there was even an IC hint of Amestria withdrawing, an attack would begin immediately.

The deal was:

The "puppets" as you like to call them would not attack Amestria. They aren't. My buddies have been in Torontia since quite early in the RP and are doiong their own stuff like you asked for.

2) ICly I'm not hindering you leaving, infact, you're being helped. You're being forced back.

And secondly, I don't recall making any deal. I recall saying any Amestrian ships or planes approaching Torontia would be attacked and that as soon as there was even an IC hint of Amestria withdrawing, an attack would begin immediately.

Why are you being like this. Amestria left because it choose too, not because it was forced out. Attacking was a hinderence and thus your attacks were ignored. Things have moved on and Amestria had withdrawn and everyone has accepted my posts as legitamate.

Now that I've realized there's a new OOC Thread, can anyone help me to understand what's going on here? Or does any of this apply to me?