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Here is the IC thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=439182

Now, both parties have agreed to keep this RP semi-closed. The 2 main parties, Praetonia and myself, will only be taking 1 or 2 allies each. Those allies are as follows:

Closed Play

Forces of Gholgoth:

Automagfreek
Pantera
Aequatio

Forces of Praetonia:

Praetonia
Sarzonia
Hogsweat

I would prefer if the 2 main nations in this conflict, myself and Praetonia, did most of the fighting against eachother. Our 1 or 2 allies can fight amongst themselves, dropping in to fight one of the 'main' nations every once in awhile, but for the most part let's keep it AMF VS Praetonia.

Now, this does NOT mean that everyone else cannot participate in this war. Everyone else who is allied on either side can have at it, and I'll log all face offs in this first post.

Open Play

Gholgoth/AMF supporter

Praetonia/ OMP supporter

***********************

Sigma Octavus VS
Celack VS
Crimmond VS Kriegorgrad
Holy panooly VS Aust
Doomingsland, Freudotopia VS Willink, Jagada, Halberdgardia, Space Union
Illior VS Novikov
The Parthians VS Rotovia-
MassPwnage VS
Trixia VS
Borman Empire VS
Hamptonshire VS
Artitsa VS
Clan Smoke Jaguar VS
Verdant Archipelago VS
HailandKill VS
Yafor 2 VS
The Macabees VS Safehaven2
Isselmere VS
Skinny87 VS Modern Atlantis
Hussariot VS Kjata Major
Lesser Ribena VS
Yallak VS
Artitsa VS
Brydog VS

That is what I have so far. Signups and declaration of theatres can be done here.

OOC: Just giving you a hand with this organization, AMF, I hope you don't mind. ~ Euro

Count me in.

I've said that Praetonia is one of two countries I'd be willing to risk war with AMF against. Now it's time to prove it.

EDIT: However, I will not stand for dogpiling. These RPs have to have structure or they're going to collapse.

This would be my first major Rp, if youre willing to take me on?

Count me in. I already have fleets by the Cariyan Islands ready to fight you.

This would be my first major Rp, if youre willing to take me on?

You can join in the open play if you want, but not the closed play.

Sarzo, I'll be overseeing RP structure and so forth, but with the help of yourself and the others involved of course.

I've got this war divided into 2 categories: Open Play, and Closed Play.

The Closed Play nations do not have to fight anyone else if they do not want to, however Open Play is fair game for allies on both sides to duke it out.

Ok. Im in, Ill ally with Praetonia.

Thanks for putting me in Closed Play AMF, i'm honoured to be a part of what this RP will become.

Since this is your specific OOC thread, I guess I don't have to post in your other designated one.

How would you feel about Kjata Major joining in?

The Kingdom of Lesser Ribena will stand by it's friends in Sarzonia and ally against supporters of AMF.

Since this is your specific OOC thread, I guess I don't have to post in your other designated one.

How would you feel about Kjata Major joining in?

Open play is open to everyone.

You can either declare a theatre now or wait until fighting starts. In Open Play, there won't be limits as to how many can fight a particular nation.

Ever since i got back from my extended absence due to crappy exams etc my trigger finger has been itching for an all out war.

Seeing as my nation is isolationist - ill find a way to join in when the fighting starts.

Open play is open to everyone.

You can either declare a theatre now or wait until fighting starts. In Open Play, there won't be limits as to how many can fight a particular nation.

I'll guess I am a Gholgoth/AMF supporter. Since I've always wanted to be against some of the people in the Praetonia/ OMP supporter side.

AMF, I suggest we make this a no "n00kz!!!" war, (that doesn't include tactical nukes, although you may want it to)
But I'm wondering what you think on Biological and Chemical weapons? not used en masse, but just on a tactical scale.

[TAG]

This all looks good. It wont work unless it's kept organised.

AMF, I didn't see your note about keeping the main fighting between you and Praetonia until after I posted my deployment of the DontPissUsOff. Do you need me to edit that out?

Well sarz, i'd be assuming that AMF's allies would be acting alongside AMFs fleet, or at least in it's vicinity.

Sarz, makes no difference to me.

Hog, no nukes. Bio/chem weapons are ok but only on small scales, unless the other party agrees otherwise.

Okay- thanks. That was what I was assuming. You know, use the casual napalm bomb or two to flush out infantry, etc etc. Not on a mass WMD scale.

I dont generally view napalm, fuel air bombs etc as being WMDs. The only NBC weapons that I will use (unless, of course, they are used on me first) will be bio weapons for use against crops and the like, although this may change.

*cracks knuckles* right then, whos up to go against me?

Ill be aiming to join in against AMF - i never got the chance to finish the last RP i was against him in.

OoC: Would you mind putting me down for "Praetonia Supporter", he's one of my havenic buddies and if this war is against Praetonia, it has relevance to Haven and thus relevance to Krieg.

*cracks knuckles* right then, whos up to go against me?


O.o I guess me...though I need to overhaul all my stuff and then prepare majorly for anything to go against a nation as large and advanced as yours.

O.o I guess me...though I need to overhaul all my stuff and then prepare majorly for anything to go against a nation as large and advanced as yours.

Is this an official declaration of theatre then?

Is this an official declaration of theatre then?

I rather not immediately decide, I think Aust will be more then a match for you alone, but for me he's got like a 99% chance of wiping out my main units before they can even fire.

I need a newer and less experienced enemy. Besides, my main General (Minerva) is busy taking care of a conflict so I need to figure out what General and what style/tactics are good against who and how to do it.

I'll get back to you on that. Though since this is one side vs the other, it means at SOME POINT I'll have to go against Aust if I survive long enough to dispatch another person.

Sign me up immediatly for the open portion as a Praetonian supporter/OMP member.

EDIT:

Hey Sigma, I can sink your fleet again! It'll be just like old times!

My nation's military is heavily naval based (being an island nation) so I hope that I can be placed against someone similar with a roughly similar population size as well. Any volunteers on the AMF side?


Though I could always join up with another younger nation and we could take on an older one, not sure if your trying to avoid things like that though.

My nation's military is heavily naval based (being an island nation) so I hope that I can be placed against someone similar with a roughly similar population size as well. Any volunteers on the AMF side?


Though I could always join up with another younger nation and we could take on an older one, not sure if your trying to avoid things like that though.

Perhaps you can take on Kjata Major then?

I don't like AMF, so put me down as a Praetonian supporter in free play.

I've chosen... Hussariot. I'll see if his sniper's can match my sniper's. He wanted an RP. I'll give him a little 'practice' using snipers and fighting against snipers.

Perhaps you can take on Kjata Major then?

Whoa....Naval vs Naval....you sure? Kjata Major may be a collection of islands, but for all purposes we are not a major naval power. We have ONE aircraft carrier. The SACBF Habbakuk. Everything else is basically Hein's controlled Bora-class ships. We're no match when it comes to naval power. We have one thing which was made special and while it may be a fortress it's nothing against a naval force.

I'd like to get in on this. I'm not officially in Haven yet, but I've always taken a strong interest in what goes on there.

Edit: Can't believe I forgot. Praetonia's side.

Whoops, accidently posted with my non-RP account. Anyway, I'd like to sign up as AMF supporter. Even though the OOC and IC relation between me and AMF isn't exactly... florishing I'd think this would be a fun change of events. Normally I'd be indifferent, but since this is AMF's last roleplay (people told me this) I want to be on this like a moth around a torch.

Sign me up as AMF supporter.

Maybe not the last RP, but definatly gearing up towards an end of some kind.

This has the potential to be the next NS World War. What would it be, World War VI? World War VII?

Hmm, possible to have a neutral observer? I won't be involved (at least, not militarily) on either side of the conflict, but I want to RP my government's responses to the turmoil at hand - especially since Hogsweat is of great importance to us. If added, I'll be more of a neutral diplomatic observer at best (dealing more with politics than actual warfighting), but I'm sure that it will contribute somewhat given the rather uneven relation between AMF and the Omzian Republic in the past, and the allied relations to all three nations on Praetonia's side.

I think I wanna jump in. Don't really care what side, put me on whatever side is short right now.

Hogsweat or Sarzonia, you want to hit me up on AIM or in PM sometime today? I figure since we're splitting the main theatre apart you can choose either or, but I'd like to discuss a few things OOCly before we get going. Nothing major, reallt, just like to kick it around.

AIM: RezinCloud

Hogsweat or Sarzonia, you want to hit me up on AIM or in PM sometime today? I figure since we're splitting the main theatre apart you can choose either or, but I'd like to discuss a few things OOCly before we get going. Nothing major, reallt, just like to kick it around.

AIM: RezinCloudNo problem. I'll TG you my other AIM that I use for NS purposes.

I'm in on Praetonia's side.

I sent Crimmond a T/G discussing my want to go to war with him, just for the participants' information.

My entire military in trained in guerrilla warfare. They hide in bushes and ambush people and run away if they need to.

My entire military in trained in guerrilla warfare. They hide in bushes and ambush people and run away if they need to.

OoC: Yea, armoured columns hiding in bushes...navymen with rifles and their battleships hiding in bushes, jesus, thats the 1337. ;)

The new brydoggian BUSHTANK it hinds in bshue and when you come nerby it atcks you and runs way

You know i mean the soldiers. ;)

OOC: Perhaps you could RP giving my soldiers some pointers on guerilla warfare since I've RP'd my army as being sorely deficient.

FYI
I'd just like to note, for anyone who didn't know..the way stuff from our side has been building up as it has is because of this RP (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=434675&highlight=expands+water), and most of coalition naval forces are built up around the cariya islands.

BTW, shall I post exact numbers for my forces here?

I wouldn't mind getting on the Praetonian side in the Open portion of this affair, seeing as I have several key allies involved.

I'll come in against Praetonia's side.

I didn't have a clue this thread existed until I got three PMs, both on MSN and IRC, about how badly Pretonia was getting PWNED. *sigh*

Allright, just to make some things clear:

I didn't get any TG from Krieg. Strange, considering I only have three TGs in my box.

My navy is, well, it could be called anemic. It numbers less than 100 surface ships, most new but many dragged from mothballs. I have one carrier. One.

I have one of the(if not the) world's largest fleet of submarines and the largest in scale to a surface fleet. To put that in perspective: The surface fleet following AMF is about fifty ships. It has over 150 Supremacy Class submarines travelling in and around it.

They will likely be the only part of my forces in combat. Unless any of you are braindead enough to try landing troop in Crimmond, which would be suicidal for your forces.

I didn't have a clue this thread existed until I got three PMs, both on MSN and IRC, about how badly Pretonia was getting PWNED. *sigh*Firstly, it's spelt Praetonia.

Secondly, it looks like people are criminally underestimating Praetonia. Those who think he's just going to be cannon fodder are in for a rude awakening. AMF himself described the Closed RP section as being an all star cast of sorts. I don't want us to disappoint him.

It's 'Praetonia' and the RP hasnt started yet <.< >.> but thanks for the input. My battlefleets (ie everything except the coast guard, submersible navy and various 'drifting' fleets) are listed via the link in my sig below. My navy is somewhat massive but the army and its attached airpower is rather small, at a total of only 2,000,000 including logistics and vehicle crews. Generally with large battles involving multiple ships I dont refer to stats of individual ships as they quickly become lost in the overall battle, but I can provide links if they are required.

We will join Praetonia in the struggle. We will not let the last few strongholds of democracy crumble before automagfreek's army.

Praetonia. o.O I could almost win against you if that's the case! Well...till you conscript thousands of units and after a year or so of training flatten me with mighty guns and bombers and massive amounts of troops.

We will join Praetonia in the struggle. We will not let the last few strongholds of democracy crumble before automagfreek's army.
Gryo, you Verse me... seeing as most of my armed forces are undergoing overhauls, you've got a better chance than normal...

Praetonia. o.O I could almost win against you if that's the case! Well...till you conscript thousands of units and after a year or so of training flatten me with mighty guns and bombers and massive amounts of troops.
Well actually I would blockade you and then repeatedly bomb you until your military capacity disintegrated <.< >.> and yes I dont intend to keep the army at that size throughout this war. Of course I'll conscript and it'll shoot up. Probably backrupt me in the process... but it's better than being invaded.

Praetonia. o.O I could almost win against you if that's the case! Well...till you conscript thousands of units and after a year or so of training flatten me with mighty guns and bombers and massive amounts of troops.

A single division of ours would destroy your nation. Now who can I go at it with?

I'm in, who'll be in my theatre of conflict then?

Actually I'd like to go up against HP, there a reason (Be it long ago) and therefore a grudge of sorts.

OF course if your scared HP. :D Like you are. You'd probabl;y slaughter me and seeing as where both defensivly minded players...

A single division of ours would destroy your nation. Now who can I go at it with?

I highly doubt that. I am not some little pushover.

ooc: To join or not join? That is the question.
Ok, fuck it, I'm not made up of Shakespearean material. I'm joining on Golgoth's side for the sole purpose of making the Holocaust look pro-life rally.

Praetonia. o.O I could almost win against you if that's the case! Well...till you conscript thousands of units and after a year or so of training flatten me with mighty guns and bombers and massive amounts of troops.

Well no, since you wouldn't even be able to *land* on Praetonia due to the fact he's an island and that you'd have to face both mine (we're very close) and his combined navy and airforce...

Sarzonia: All star cast? LOL!

Well no, since you wouldn't even be able to *land* on Praetonia due to the fact he's an island and that you'd have to face both mine (we're very close) and his combined navy and airforce...

Sarzonia: All star cast? LOL!You forgot, he'd also have to face MY navy as Praetonia and I are very, very close.

Think about it, the Closed RP section has AMF, Pantera, Aequatio, Prae, you, and me. That's what he's referring to by an all star cast.

~ Holy Panooly vs Aust ~

Place your bets now! It's official! The eternal jungles versus a juggernaut!

*Hogsweat bets 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 bananas on Holy Panooly

Sarz: Lol, I'd like to see any single nation on Earth get past that.. anyway, in close I meant close in distance terms. We must be about 4000km away at the worst. BTW, your always welcome back into Haven you know.

Ill go against you Aeqatio

Ah, well I meant close in terms of alliance. That's one of the strongest bilateral alliances I have.

Given the unconscionable treatment I got from one particular "long time RPer" there, there is no way I'm going to return to Haven.

And that was? If you were talking about the Doujin thing, then he's gone (and NEVER to return, as I am delegate now)

Ill go against you Aeqatio
Aequatio is on the Closed RP List..therefore that's a no go, really.

And that was? If you were talking about the Doujin thing, then he's gone (and NEVER to return, as I am delegate now)It was related to the Doujin thing. Specifically, a post by New Haven.

Doujin was deated for inactivity again, BTW.

While I don't have a lot of time, I'm up for a skirmish, on Prae's side.

While I would like to get in on this, as a member of the OMP I don't see any targets I'd like to take on on the other side of this "situation". I also suppose I should pull back the three thousand warships I have stationed off of Hogsweat's islands. Doesn't look like their needed/wanted now.

Hell, I guess i'll join in on Praetonia's side if its still possible.

Damn, you guys just had to go and start this after I went back to school...now I have less time for an amazing RP like this. EDIT: I've decided to issue a statement of support for Praetonia/OMP, and I will be mobilizing all military forces. It'll be interesting to see who wins this war...I sure hope AMF doesn't decide to wipe us littler nations out if he wins!

Damn, you guys just had to go and start this after I went back to school...now I have less time for an amazing RP like this. As such, I'll probably side with Prae, though it'll be limited to what meager money and arms (compared to Prae's existing arsenal) we can supply. Sort of like the States' "arsenal of democracy" during WWII. I'm not sure I could get militarily involved and come out alive. I'll think about it, though, if I really feel like laying it all on the line.

Wha? This is a win or lose take over entirely of the other country!?

Wha? This is a win or lose take over entirely of the other country!?

I said that under the assumption that if AMF/Gholgoth won the war, they'd come after the smaller nations that supported Praetonia/OMP, and crush them. And believe me, if Prae and the OMP lose, their smaller supporters are screwed. There's no way we could take on AMF and survive; he'd raze us all.

I said that under the assumption that if AMF/Gholgoth won the war, they'd come after the smaller nations that supported Praetonia/OMP, and crush them. And believe me, if Prae and the OMP lose, their smaller supporters are screwed. There's no way we could take on AMF and survive; he'd raze us all.

Band together and destroy a larger/more dangerous enemy.

I sent another T/G, this one should get through, and by the Sarz, it can't be an all-star cast, as preanub is in it! (j/k prae)

And Hallegardia, speak for yourself, if AMF comes after me, my elite Enfields will be ready to pwn him so bad...

Band together and destroy a larger/more dangerous enemy.


Lol if we lose launch everyones nuclear arsenal at em, jk


(When will the war start ?)

Lol if we lose launch everyones nuclear arsenal at em, jk


(When will the war start ?)

General Hein is the NBC General. He'll nuke AMF with tactical nukes and chemical strikes and unload massive amounts of weapons on people. If he is going to be defeated he has a massive nuke inside of his base that is the 'Mother of all Nukes'

Problem...Hein is unstable, and so's his missile.

I said that under the assumption that if AMF/Gholgoth won the war, they'd come after the smaller nations that supported Praetonia/OMP, and crush them. And believe me, if Prae and the OMP lose, their smaller supporters are screwed. There's no way we could take on AMF and survive; he'd raze us all.

Not all of us. If things go badly for the OMP, I think I could still be in a position to help you guys out.

How would one large country pwn 20 Smaller ones ? I'd just launch
10 million reservists at them in batches.


Halberguardia, the spirit of halberguardia gonna be sent on another whirlwind adventure ?

"Willink sits back and remembers the days he was beating Halberguardia in post, and that he has like 10 million more ppl"

Err, Halberdgardia, there are elements in the OMP that are neutral - stating that Praetonia's side is the "OMP side" is somewhat of a misuse of information, since not all of the OMP are going to join (I can't speak for all of the OMP, but there are nations there that are neutral - since the Closed RP is obviously closed). I for one, is and will be neutral.

How would one large country pwn 20 Smaller ones ? I'd just launch
10 million reservists at them in batches.


Halberguardia, the spirit of halberguardia gonna be sent on another whirlwind adventure ?

"Willink sits back and remembers the days he was beating Halberguardia in post, and that he has like 10 million more ppl"

That would be appropriate, eh? Not sure how well it'd work against a more technologically advanced opponent, though; the only reason I could get away with it in Saharistan was because he was using crappy Soviet equipment.

Err, Halberdgardia, there are elements in the OMP that are neutral - stating that Praetonia's side is the "OMP side" is somewhat of a misuse of information, since not all of the OMP are going to join (I can't speak for all of the OMP, but there are nations there that are neutral - since the Closed RP is obviously closed). I for one, is and will be neutral.

Ah, my apologies for the misunderstanding. Thank you for the clarification.

I said that under the assumption that if AMF/Gholgoth won the war, they'd come after the smaller nations that supported Praetonia/OMP, and crush them. And believe me, if Prae and the OMP lose, their smaller supporters are screwed. There's no way we could take on AMF and survive; he'd raze us all.
After a major war he probably wouldnt have the resources of the will to do so, and would probably settle with favourable peace treaties. Anyway, I think it's unlikely that my allies and I will "lose" per se... we may not win but Im not sure if the other side have the ability to defeat our navies.

Agh, i have a crappy navy and a huge-ass army. Off-topic, i found an awsome new ! Free !thing on google, http://earth.google.com/index.html


hey, look, its the lincoln memorial (http://earth.google.com/images/lincolnmemorial_lg.jpg) !

I'm in on AMF's side... possibly looking for a smaller scale, not exactly all out though...

I'm in on AMF's side... possibly looking for a smaller scale, not exactly all out though...

Illior, I'm considering siding with Praetonia and Sarzonia (Woodstock Pact members) and, though not large or industrialized enough to fight a full scale war, would be willing to have a few air-battles and skirmishes with you - nothing to threaten either nation signifigantly, but enough to keep things interesting. If you'd like to, we could arrange that.

EDIT: This means I am siding with the OMP.

Illior, I'm considering siding with Praetonia and Sarzonia (Woodstock Pact members) and, though not large or industrialized enough to fight a full scale war, would be willing to have a few air-battles and skirmishes with you - nothing to threaten either nation signifigantly, but enough to keep things interesting. If you'd like to, we could arrange that.
That'd be fine, I'm trying to arrange a few other things like that too. but, they've all fallen through so YES!

That'd be fine, I'm trying to arrange a few other things like that too. but, they've all fallen through so YES!

Wonderful. I would like, however, to stress that this should be a limited engagement, carried out mostly at sea and in the air. I've recently been annexed already, and that nation (Azazia) is inactive for the time being. Thus, I can hardly begin a ground war or attempted invasion of my homeland as it would involve his occupation forces to a great extent.

I'd like to join the side of the OMP. And I don't really care whom I fight. I got a very good navy, and a decent army and air force.

I would be very interested in joining in...as a close ally of Sarzo's due to the Woodstock Pact (same with Prae') and the fact that Hoggie was my first ally. (and I've stayed his ally ever since).

While I may not have much time to RP, I would be looking to fight a war with a larger nation who can RP well; as RP'ing well is one of the things I pride myself on. Possibly Crimmond...I have a large Submarine force as well (most of my military budget is in my Navy, due to the fact I am on an Island, making YAfor 2 extremely difficult to conquer) which could make things interesting.

Just my little addition.

Does anyone think that this could challange as the biggest war in NS history, or is there one bigger ?

Er, I'm pro-Praetonia.

I'd like to get on AMF's, Doom's and Guffingford's side, if possible. I'm thinking this looks like it will be one of the best RPs on II in a while and would like to be a part of this.

If anyone wants to tango with the Royal Armed Forces, I'm more than willing to hear you out.

The Haven, OMP, and bilateral ties that hold me to the "anti"-AMF forces dictate that I am on that side. However, as a member of NATO I cannot and will not commit overt acts of aggression against fellow NATO members.

I would like to join, on AMF side. Like "The Parthians" said it looks like the next big NS thing. I'd like to be part of it aswell.

Trix

The Parthians, lets just hurry up and get that damn treaty signed to end the VIS thing.

[OOC: Although I'm going to be neutral unless someone specifically wants to go ahead and go to war with me, AMF you might as well put me as an OMP supporter, although it seems that I should be more inclined to be a Golghoth supporter. Nonetheless, I personally see it fitter to be listed as an OMP supporter. Thanks.]

[OOC: The amount of nations involved is overwhelming....My support will most likely end up in the Praetoria/OMP side, as the fact is most if not all my allies have sided with them. I have one question though, if i take part in the all out part of this war, say facing an AMF/Gholgoth supporter, is there a guarantee I face someone of my skill, (kinda newish, would get slayed by older nations)???

Hailandkill ! Long time no see, huh.

[OOC: The amount of nations involved is overwhelming....My support will most likely end up in the Praetoria/OMP side, as the fact is most if not all my allies have sided with them. I have one question though, if i take part in the all out part of this war, say facing an AMF/Gholgoth supporter, is there a guarantee I face someone of my skill, (kinda newish, would get slayed by older nations)???

OOC: That would be me, except we're allied, so that wouldn't work very well. I'd say just stick with Prae/OMP.

If things ever escalate, Hailandkill, I could use some help with Illior. Otherwise, I woudl say Kjata Major, but I don't want it to get unfair and dog-pile two or three nations on him.

ooc: You forgot me AMF (for Gholgoth)

[OOC: I would be happy to do a two on two with me and HK on one side, and another two on another side, even if the other two were my size, or 2004 nations. Unless, HK doesn't feel comfortable with that - which is also ok.]

Novikov, i'll help you.

That's a maybe, Willink. I won't need help if this goes as planned. The only reason I brought it up is because my military is currently very tiny (comperable to a nation 1/5th my size) and I don't have my massive submarine force to keep my islands safe.

Hailandkill ! Long time no see, huh.

[OOC: Too long actually, I enjoyed fighting along side your nation against saharistan]

OOC: That would be me, except we're allied, so that wouldn't work very well. I'd say just stick with Prae/OMP.

[OOC: You, Willink, Mac, and thats a good enough reason to join the OMP side. Besides I love you friggin guys too much to fight you.]

If things ever escalate, Hailandkill, I could use some help with Illior. Otherwise, I woudl say Kjata Major, but I don't want it to get unfair and dog-pile two or three nations on him.

[OOC:Thats an idea I would think about, it is appreciated, I think I will need to see how the events pan out]

[OOC: I would be happy to do a two on two with me and HK on one side, and another two on another side, even if the other two were my size, or 2004 nations. Unless, HK doesn't feel comfortable with that - which is also ok.]

[OOC: That would be fine, and a good idea, in my opinion]

Hmm, I'll jump in on Prae's side.

Hmm, I'll jump in on Prae's side.

Hey, since you were going to jump into a Passion Play on Weigar's side, you could jump in on AMFs side and that would give you a reason to support Weigar, and thus we link this war with my little rebellion, giving me a real reason to be on the OMP's side.

Thats a good idea, guess im with AMF now.

I'm willing to back Praetonia up against whoever.

Wow, the sheer scale of this war is almost overwhelming.

I do fear that because of the volume of nations that there is going to be a lot of bickering. Those that have set this RP up will NOT accept bickering in any fashion. I myself have been involved in far too many RPs that have degenerated into flame fests.

I expect nothing but the absolute best from everybody on both sides. This war is not one about 'winning or losing', but making one of the best damn RPs to ever grace the forums.

Let's make it happen.

Wow, the sheer scale of this war is almost overwhelming.

I do fear that because of the volume of nations that there is going to be a lot of bickering. Those that have set this RP up will NOT accept bickering in any fashion. I myself have been involved in far too many RPs that have degenerated into flame fests.

I expect nothing but the absolute best from everybody on both sides. This war is not one about 'winning or losing', but making one of the best damn RPs to ever grace the forums.

Let's make it happen.

Well put.

Wow, the sheer scale of this war is almost overwhelming.

I do fear that because of the volume of nations that there is going to be a lot of bickering. Those that have set this RP up will NOT accept bickering in any fashion. I myself have been involved in far too many RPs that have degenerated into flame fests.

I expect nothing but the absolute best from everybody on both sides. This war is not one about 'winning or losing', but making one of the best damn RPs to ever grace the forums.

Let's make it happen.


Very good point, anywho, when will this war start ?

Wow, the sheer scale of this war is almost overwhelming.

I do fear that because of the volume of nations that there is going to be a lot of bickering. Those that have set this RP up will NOT accept bickering in any fashion. I myself have been involved in far too many RPs that have degenerated into flame fests.

I expect nothing but the absolute best from everybody on both sides. This war is not one about 'winning or losing', but making one of the best damn RPs to ever grace the forums.

Let's make it happen.

Glad to hear it.

I'm still missing from the list, though. Praetonia's side, in case you didn't see my edit. :p

Well put.

The Closed Play is getting underway now, the Open Play war will commence as soon as everyone picks targets.

:( im not on the list, Praetonia's side.(dang alliances, wish i was on red)

Oh by the way, the Open Play war should be fought in a new thread or threads to keep the Closed Play thread clear of clutter.

Theatres can be as big or small as people like. For example, 3 'Praetonian' nations can choose to invade a single 'AMF' nation, and from there 'AMF' supporters can flock to that theatre, and so on.

If this sounds too confusing let me know.

The name of this whole war is titled:

Operation: Hellfire

If possible.....


The nation of Atlantis and their massive navy declares open support for AMF

(If anyone wishes to attack me...send me a telegram cause i may or may not check the forums very often)

:( im not on the list, Praetonia's side.(dang alliances, wish i was on red)


You're on there, I just got online a few minutes ago and started editing the list.

You're on there, I just got online a few minutes ago and started editing the list.



Thanks

You might as well as me and SafeHaven are having our own theater of war, since some point or another he's going to invade me, even though it's tying in this war with my own civil disturbances - however, this theater is most likely going to be located within the Passion Play thread.

Theatres can be as big or small as people like. For example, 3 'Praetonian' nations can choose to invade a single 'AMF' nation, and from there 'AMF' supporters can flock to that theatre, and so on.



Exactly what i was thinking of. :)

Special Note:

Artitsa and Hamptonshire have decided to band together to fight one or more enemy nations. Interested parties can contact either one of us.

Um...i dunno if u saw the last 1 cause it went to page 9 right after my post, but i said i'd declare support for AMF

Also, i'd like to go against a nation around my relative size (1.2 billion, give or take a few)

In case you want to link the thread, since it is technically part of the war, here it is: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=439156. However, SafeHaven2 hasn't yet declared war on me, although he soon will. Any nation on that list is welcome to join the thread. It doesn't matter if it's 2 vs 1 or 4 vs 1, if you want to join go ahead.

It kinda of mixes this war with a minor civil disturbence I designed while in Spain. Should be a strange mix, and something I didn't expect.

Well I'll go ahead and open up an RP. Though before I do I invite Willink and Halberdgardia to join me in war against Doomingsland. If all parties agree of coarse.

{NOTE: This is Jagada...I'm on my puppet state account...}

Well I'll go ahead and open up an RP. Though before I do I invite Willink and Halberdgardia to join me in war against Doomingsland. If all parties agree of coarse.

{NOTE: This is Jagada...I'm on my puppet state account...}


I agree, halberguardia is gone back 2- high school, wont be on all day.

Note on Copiosa Scotian Involvement:

I'm unlikely to commit my full military might to this conflict unless my nation itself is attacked or blockaded, or full commitment is necessary to achieve an objective I deem vital to my interests. I almost certainly won't be invading anyone by myself. That said, the forces I do commit will still be pretty significant. If any of the green countries wants my help in their theater, or if any of the red countries wants to be a thorn in my side, just let me know and we'll see what we can work out. I may even send forces to more than one theater.

I'll take The Parthians or HP. (Noting: I am RPing with my previous population of 3.45Billion included. If this is objectable, please tell me now)

Oops, but doom is in the same alliance as me, agh well, i wont count it.

I'll be joining in the "OMP side" as well. No real preference as to who I fight, so I'll take on anyone willing.

If the Parthians (or HP) are ok with my terms, place me on the board.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440102

Pantera attacks Sarzonian holdings in Branwyn.

I've accepted Kriegorgrad's offer.

Now.... I just hope I can keep the hell up.

I have contacted The Supreme Waffle of Modern Atlantis.

~ Holy Panooly vs Aust ~

Place your bets now! It's official! The eternal jungles versus a juggernaut!
And the eternal mountains....

This should be interesting, shall you create the thread or shall I HP?

Wow, the sheer scale of this war is almost overwhelming.

I do fear that because of the volume of nations that there is going to be a lot of bickering. Those that have set this RP up will NOT accept bickering in any fashion. I myself have been involved in far too many RPs that have degenerated into flame fests.

I expect nothing but the absolute best from everybody on both sides. This war is not one about 'winning or losing', but making one of the best damn RPs to ever grace the forums.

Let's make it happen.
I'll do me best sir.

(...)You do it, so I can devise diabolic schemes to annoy and all the other would-be invaders. I'll make a detailed map of HP today, so you know where not to go. Not too detailed of course...

Damm! I hate starting threads, I'm rubbish at it.

As for a Austian map, I'll see what I can do but I don't really have one.

I'll take on Modern Atlantis if thats allright with him...I'm on holiday from monday for ten days, so a short sharp sea battle would be good if he agrees to it.

Holy Panooly's insane geographic map: http://www.modernwarstudies.net/HPgeographic.jpg I'm gonna eat all of you. Even when AMF falls (which is something that won't happen without a good fight) than Holy Panooly will stand as the last nation of the AMF coalition. You have my personal guarantee.

EDIT: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=436448 HP factbook.

Holy Panooly's insane geographic map: http://www.modernwarstudies.net/HPgeographic.jpg I'm gonna eat all of you. Even when AMF falls (which is something that won't happen without a good fight) than Holy Panooly will stand as the last nation of the AMF coalition. You have my personal guarantee.

EDIT: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=436448 HP factbook.
*drops potato blight on HP*

Mwahahahahahahahahaha.

Lesser Ribena is stil looking for any members of the AMF team who want to engage in a mostly naval war and are about the same population as me (700 million). Though I am willing to team up with someone to take on a larger enemy.

Holy Panooly's insane geographic map: http://www.modernwarstudies.net/HPgeographic.jpg I'm gonna eat all of you. Even when AMF falls (which is something that won't happen without a good fight) than Holy Panooly will stand as the last nation of the AMF coalition. You have my personal guarantee.

EDIT: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=436448 HP factbook.
Fuck your nations nasty, time to do some island hopping I think. :(

Some Naplam will get rid of those ofrests.

It is probably a short list of those who have had a go at AMF technology, but i'm about to join it. These 'Crawlers' are a very interesting idea, but as these are on the sea floor and modern ships tend to float; the magnetic mines would sink. The general rule is The more magnetic it is: the heavier your magnet. It would be semi-plausible as an anti-sub weapon, but against ships it would be like holding a steel spoon out of a second story window and expecting the magnet to jump up from the ground outside.

Of course, the spoon (if anything) would be pulled down, which raises the possibity for giant electromagnetic plates on the sea floor that when turned on simply pull enemy ships under.

Maybe you have mostly hollow mines, with a thin magnetic coating and large air spaces. It could work, but i doubt the magnets would be strong enough to change the mines course. Still, if you waited until the ship was above the crawler and then released them, they wouldn't have to move anywhere but upwards.

Some Naplam will get rid of those ofrests. HAH! People tried to do that before but failed. Try to keep a fire going in a tropical rainforest. Remember, HP closely resembles a South-American rainforest, amazone like but the weather's far and far worse.

Technology vs Survival of the Fittest

Modern Atlantis and Skinny87 have agreed to do battle. :)

HAH! People tried to do that before but failed. Try to keep a fire going in a tropical rainforest. Remember, HP closely resembles a South-American rainforest, amazone like but the weather's far and far worse.

Technology vs Survival of the Fittest
If you ask me you should use bio weapons. They'll spread very quickly in the forrest and the HP troops (who will be resistant to normal diseases in the forest) wont have resistance to them. It's also fairly easy for you to make it look like it's just a new disease in the forest rather than a biological attack.

HAH! People tried to do that before but failed. Try to keep a fire going in a tropical rainforest. Remember, HP closely resembles a South-American rainforest, amazone like but the weather's far and far worse.

Technology vs Survival of the Fittest



Then he can send in a team of lumberjacks and bulldozers. Besides, the blast from the Napalm would destroy an small area anyways, it dont have to catch fire.

Righto MA, do you want to start the thread, or shall I?

HAH! People tried to do that before but failed. Try to keep a fire going in a tropical rainforest. Remember, HP closely resembles a South-American rainforest, amazone like but the weather's far and far worse.

Technology vs Survival of the Fittest
A little Naplam will do a little bt of damage anyway. As for survival of the fittist Austians are mountain people who live in Antartica, we are the fittest.

I might just do that Prentoria. It would be Ironic as I think i got a lot of my Bio stuff from HP.

Sure, try what you want. Remember, Holy Panooly (the island, not all surrounding territories) is the size of Canada and Alaska. Alliance Island is smaller, comparable to Mexico. The map's not on scale, but that doesn't really matter.

PS: Bulldozers and lumberjacks. I can't imagine any more straightforward thinking. Holy Panooly is a highly active volcanic area, the jungles aren't plains with a thick vegetation. Hills, canyons, rifts, lakes, depressions and other things that don't promote four wheel drive. But then again, you're speaking as I do not know how to throw intruders off my islands. Aust will manage to have a base, but it's not going to be some laid-back Paul Bunyan like logger camp. Mind you, a jungle isn't anywhere near the forests in Maine or BC, Canada. Only if you've been there yourself you will know the difference.
(...)My people may be savages, they're not stupid. But before we rush to NBC's to make this quick, clean and easy, let's keep it normal for the time being. And Biological weapons are pretty much useless in very moist conditions - from what I've heard.

ooc: is it all right if I sign up to send a small squadron of volunteer fighter pilots to help the anti-AMF cause? It would make for good PR for the Bonstocknian military, though I would not get fully involved.

That or I could just sell gas, beans, and bullets to both sides...

Ooc: Napalm will work against Panooly forests, although it wouldn't spread very efficiently, however, the napalm's immediate area of effect would see a chunk of forest torched.

Ooc: Napalm will work against Panooly forests, although it wouldn't spread very efficiently, however, the napalm's immediate area of effect would see a chunk of forest torched.You got it.

Ooc: Napalm will work against Panooly forests, although it wouldn't spread very efficiently, however, the napalm's immediate area of effect would see a chunk of forest torched.

Do what I'll do. HARVEST IT! Use the forest to fund your war effort.

Oh...I am vs Hussariot. Yay. :)

Do what I'll do. HARVEST IT! Use the forest to fund your war effort.

Oh...I am vs Hussariot. Yay. :)

Oh no, thankfully, I'm not up against Holy Panooly...unlucky bastard Aust is to go into Vietnam on steroids, if the Aust troopers want to stand a chance, they'll need to employ the locals to get anywhere near equal footing but then again, it's Aust's war. Just don't say I didn't warn you when blow darts dipped in snake venom start felling your officers left, right and centre.

Do what I'll do. HARVEST IT! Use the forest to fund your war effort.

Oh...I am vs Hussariot. Yay. :)


Holy shit, 700 somthing post and you only have 130 something ppl, you have to work hard to do that..

Oh no, thankfully, I'm not up against Holy Panooly...unlucky bastard Aust is to go into Vietnam on steroids, if the Aust troopers want to stand a chance, they'll need to employ the locals to get anywhere near equal footing but then again, it's Aust's war. Just don't say I didn't warn you when blow darts dipped in snake venom start felling your officers left, right and centre.


Give the front line troops tons of flamethrowers..

Give the front line troops tons of flamethrowers..

Of course, flamethrowers don't give away your position to the wildmen, it's not like flaming the forest with throwers is going to take forever, it's not like the wildmen will just sneak up and kill the guys wielding the flamethrowers...nope, not all. Full proof plan. ;)

Of course, flamethrowers don't give away your position to the wildmen, it's not like flaming the forest with throwers is going to take forever, it's not like the wildmen will just sneak up and kill the guys wielding the flamethrowers...nope, not all. Full proof plan. ;)



I know, its great is'nt it. ;)

It is probably a short list of those who have had a go at AMF technology, but i'm about to join it. These 'Crawlers' are a very interesting idea, but as these are on the sea floor and modern ships tend to float; the magnetic mines would sink. The general rule is The more magnetic it is: the heavier your magnet. It would be semi-plausible as an anti-sub weapon, but against ships it would be like holding a steel spoon out of a second story window and expecting the magnet to jump up from the ground outside.

Of course, the spoon (if anything) would be pulled down, which raises the possibity for giant electromagnetic plates on the sea floor that when turned on simply pull enemy ships under.

Maybe you have mostly hollow mines, with a thin magnetic coating and large air spaces. It could work, but i doubt the magnets would be strong enough to change the mines course. Still, if you waited until the ship was above the crawler and then released them, they wouldn't have to move anywhere but upwards.


Allow me to explain.

The crawler does most of the targeting just before the mine is released. The mines have floatation devices on it to allow it to quickly float to the surface. A simple high power electro magnet gives the mine greater precision, as to protect against a mine possibly going off course.

The mine is a deadly cocktail of high explosives, designed to either blow the bottom of a ship to pieces, or cause an air pocket so great that the ship breaks its own keel.

Yes, that would work, i was assuming that the explosive content would be something heavy and that normal magnets would be used. Thinking about it, normal magnets would make the mines bunch together and explode; if anything damaging the crawler. Electromagnets are the solution to this, and provided you keep weight down then physics wont get in your way.

---

Aust:

Mix potassium with petroleum, keep it in an airtight container and then empty the contents from the air onto the rainforest. The mixture ignites when it touches water, and a good payload can decimate a decent sized rainforest. problem solved.

Yes the system almost certainly works... the main problem is that the fleet would almost certainly notice the massive metal mine dispensers on the bottom of the ocean, which is why mine fields are generally laid beforehand.

Oh no, thankfully, I'm not up against Holy Panooly...unlucky bastard Aust is to go into Vietnam on steroids, if the Aust troopers want to stand a chance, they'll need to employ the locals to get anywhere near equal footing but then again, it's Aust's war. Just don't say I didn't warn you when blow darts dipped in snake venom start felling your officers left, right and centre.
I knew it'd be a toughy, but I'm trying to make a jungle nation myself (Christs Own Legion) so it should be sueful. And I've faced this sort of nation before.

@ Obsideo
Thanks for ruining a swell roleplay wise guy with your amazing chemical internet knowledge. Of course there are a million substances on this world that can flatten whole lands but this game is about PLAYING. NOT WINNING. Damn you're a n00b and you confirm all stereotypes about the new generation - few players excluded - who think that winning is what NationStates is all about.

PS: Aust has to get above the forest first genius. And hell, the GI's tried roughly the same in 'Nam, and it didn't work. I may be a weird backwards nation, but we're certainly not outgunned.

Holy shit, 700 somthing post and you only have 130 something ppl, you have to work hard to do that..

My population is 178 million. My population is increasing more and more sharply every year though. My defense and planning is completely charted and recorded so I can see what is going on and what to do. My nation is pushing all-consuming economy, but I need another economy one. I hope for the hookers or the drinking water one. It can make your nation rise 2-3 economy points from fair. (Kjata Major's economy started at 'Good' btw)

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a323/magicalrealmofarkan/pop.jpg

Holy shit, 700 somthing post and you only have 130 something ppl, you have to work hard to do that..I'm facing the largest Gholgoth country (Pantera with 5.587 billion) and I'm at a comparatively modest 3.046 billion. Praetonia at 2.883 billion is facing Automagfreek and his 5.195 billion population. And we're both facing two of the best players in all of NS. This is easily the biggest challenge of my NS career. More so than facing Cam III ever was.

Cam III? I destroyed whatever's left of Cam III as HP, not even Guff! That's not a challange, more like target practice.

Cam III was funny... Sarzonia, Morathania and I nuked him in the end, but he still came back only to get renuked by Granzi IIRC.

I'm facing the largest Gholgoth country (Pantera with 5.587 billion) and I'm at a comparatively modest 3.046 billion. Praetonia at 2.883 billion is facing Automagfreek and his 5.195 billion population. And we're both facing two of the best players in all of NS. This is easily the biggest challenge of my NS career. More so than facing Cam III ever was.

Not even my main could handle that, its a little under 2 bil now. Your kill ratio better be 3 to 1 otherwise you are gonna be in REAL trouble.

Yes the system almost certainly works... the main problem is that the fleet would almost certainly notice the massive metal mine dispensers on the bottom of the ocean, which is why mine fields are generally laid beforehand.

Mine fields....I hate them so MUCH! Mine fields are worthless pieces of crap that shouldn't be legal in the real world. Though warfare doesn't have rules....till you lose.

Personally I'd just just Metal Storm technology weapons and surprise the shit out of boats. Though i haven't built them at sea yet, I have them ALL along the coast. They are cheap and effective. Minefields are too weak and horrible. On land they are deadly to people after the conflict. At sea they are annoying, but easier to 'clear' them.

Personally I'd just just Metal Storm technology weapons...Metal Storm has some major drawbacks, at least as far as last ditch weaponry goes. For one thing, it takes a while to reload and if you were to use it as sort of a CIWS system on a ship, it would take too long to load for it to be useful. That's why I originally adopted the 35 mm Millennium Gun as my CIWS system until I combined it with my Yellow Jacket mini-SAMs into a full-on CIWS suite.

Metal Storm has some major drawbacks, at least as far as last ditch weaponry goes. For one thing, it takes a while to reload and if you were to use it as sort of a CIWS system on a ship, it would take too long to load for it to be useful. That's why I originally adopted the 35 mm Millennium Gun as my CIWS system until I combined it with my Yellow Jacket mini-SAMs into a full-on CIWS suite.

Anti-Ship platforms are unreloadable for me, I self-destruct them after they use all the ammo. Cause its a little ball in the ocean that generally will go unnoticed and can fire like crazy.

Ones on the coast I can reload in thirty seconds. All it is the tubes. with a 'handle' you can take the entire tubes out and place in exact same copies with one hand. This means the configuration is forced, but rapid. Going one by one is like a 5-10 minute reloading process. If you watched the videos (and I am guessing you seen all of them) you can see it's about 30-40 seconds are so for a casual reload and firing of a single tube.

My process involves a plastic and steel back that with a single hand twist and pull you can pull it out and throw the empty rounds on the ground, then put in another box instantly. Just like reloading a tank. With a duel-pod launching system you will never run out rounds unless you push it.

Sarz: where is Branywn? Do you want to fight alone or can I give a hand?

Sarz: where is Branywn? Do you want to fight alone or can I give a hand?Branwyn is my Manium colony. Pantera and I are working on the storyline and it'd be best if I go it alone. From an OOC standpoint, it looks like he's pursuing a limited war against me, whereas I'm going to have to go all out, but if someone interferes on my side, all hell breaks loose according to him.

Hussariot our thread is here please respond.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440140

Praetonia:

I noted in your last post that your fleets are opening fire on mine. I scratched my head because all my ships had begun moving back towards the AMF-Panteran straight. The 2 SD's were the only vessels that could fire at Cariya, because they sport 25 inch guns. All my other ships were out of range, including my missile frigates, and as a result they are out of your range as well.

Just a small technicality, because the SD's are moving and firing at the same time, shooting maybe a dozen shells each.

Damn. I'll go re-edit my post.

Hog, how big are the guns on your SD's?

The Warspite carries 20x27" guns, but the other classes carry 25" only. In addition, the Warspite is slightly smaller and can travel a knot (wow, amazing) faster than the others.

Basically, my fleet is trying to cut in parallel to yours and move at the same speed (hard, though) while keeping up a running engagement with your gunships.

My submarines are moving on electric at full speed at about 300m below, trying to chase your fleet. The nuclears are staying behind.

Would you like to know the numbers/classes (with brief explanation) of my fleet or is that not necessary?

Yes the system almost certainly works... the main problem is that the fleet would almost certainly notice the massive metal mine dispensers on the bottom of the ocean, which is why mine fields are generally laid beforehand.

Oops, missed this post.

Resi's Crawlers are made from composites if I recall correctly, as well as the mines. Not a whole lot of metal to detect.

AMF, could you please put me down as versus Crimmond? He agreed, as said in an earlier post.

The Warspite carries 20x27" guns, but the other classes carry 25" only. In addition, the Warspite is slightly smaller and can travel a knot (wow, amazing) faster than the others.

Basically, my fleet is trying to cut in parallel to yours and move at the same speed (hard, though) while keeping up a running engagement with your gunships.

My submarines are moving on electric at full speed at about 300m below, trying to chase your fleet. The nuclears are staying behind.

Would you like to know the numbers/classes (with brief explanation) of my fleet or is that not necessary?

I don't really care about numbers or explanations, so I won't waste your time and make you post it.

So realistically the Warspite is the only craft that could effectively hit my SD's. The 27" guns give them a bit more range than the 25", so yes you could still hit me. I say this because I have a slight head start over you, because the main bulk of the fleet has already been moving, and the SD's stayed a little further back to be within firing range.

I'll take damage from the Warspite for sure, the rest we'll have to discuss.

OK then.

Yes, I see what you mean. You can RP the Westland and Wellington's shells falling short, but the Warspite's hitting, in that case.

OK then.

Yes, I see what you mean. You can RP the Westland and Wellington's shells falling short, but the Warspite's hitting, in that case.

Don't worry, you'll get your money's worth. Thanks for letting me clarify.

No probs. If you need a faster response, I'm on IRC for about another three hours.

What should I do, my 'target' isn't replying to my posts and he was online.

What should I do, my 'target' isn't replying to my posts and he was online.

Be patient. Not everyone has time to make long winded replies, sometimes people can only be online long enough to check replies.

Hell, I'm at work as we speak.

EDIT: Also, did you telegram a link to your 'target'?

After Prompting from Willink, we have decided that it is in all interests that we withdraw. We are hopelessly overstrecthed with several conflicts, and are too inexperienced. Sorry Kjata Major, we must wait until current conflicts are resolved before we can engage you.
With Regret, Hussariot.

What? Why? O.O! Come on, your going against my WORST leaders.

Praetonia:

I noted in your last post that your fleets are opening fire on mine. I scratched my head because all my ships had begun moving back towards the AMF-Panteran straight. The 2 SD's were the only vessels that could fire at Cariya, because they sport 25 inch guns. All my other ships were out of range, including my missile frigates, and as a result they are out of your range as well.

Just a small technicality, because the SD's are moving and firing at the same time, shooting maybe a dozen shells each.
If you're close enough to fire guns at Hogsweat Im close enough to fire missiles at you... RP most of the missiles missing or running out of fuel if you really want. Im not too bothered.

Oops, missed this post.

Resi's Crawlers are made from composites if I recall correctly, as well as the mines. Not a whole lot of metal to detect.
It's not the fact that they're made of metal, it's the fact that they're made of something different from their surroundings, ie. the sea bed. I should also point out that "composite" isnt a material in and of itself... I would have to know what they are actually composites of to decide how well sonar would pick them up, but for the sake of simplicity I'm fairly confident in saying that moderate - large numbers of artifical objects moving under my fleet would be picked up in whole or in part.

Im really sorry Kjata. I have no forces at the moment. Invasion remember. And the Machinists. I simply do not have the funds. However, I have one expeditionary force left, not much admittedly, but if youre willing?

Gtg for a bit, sorry

If you need someone to play if Hussariot drops out Kjata, I'll do it we're about the same size and whatever.

Gtg for a bit, sorry

OK amass your forces, the general's men need training and I need to issue new badges for them. I only have a few for Minerva as it is. Let me run my simulator quick and I'll get back to you on the news ok?

Ok, I have taken this E.F from another thread of mine, but it shows my available forces at the moment.

E.F Strength:
1 Armoured Division, Challenger2 Mk E
2 Infantry Divisions.
3 Artillery Batteries, 225mm.
1 Squadron Lynx/Gazelle Army Co-op.

Naval Battle Group E: 1 Carrier, vindicator class. 5 Frigates, Relentless class. 4 Troop ships. 2 LC Flotillas, 1 Carrier based Harrier Squadron.

Air Element: 2 Squadrons Harrier (Ground Support). 2 Squadrons Tornado (Fighter Interceptor role)

If you need someone to play if Hussariot drops out Kjata, I'll do it we're about the same size and whatever.

Your over 3x my size. Most of my Generals are out of commission for the time, need to wrap up a few battles and stuff. We'll see ok?

AMF, what about those missiles I fired at your fleet? (all 1200 of them >.<)

EDIT: Prae get on MSN

Ok, I have taken this E.F from another thread of mine, but it shows my available forces at the moment.

E.F Strength:
1 Armoured Division, Challenger2 Mk E
2 Infantry Divisions.
3 Artillery Batteries, 225mm.
1 Squadron Lynx/Gazelle Army Co-op.

Naval Battle Group E: 1 Carrier, vindicator class. 5 Frigates, Relentless class. 4 Troop ships. 2 LC Flotillas, 1 Carrier based Harrier Squadron.

Air Element: 2 Squadrons Harrier (Ground Support). 2 Squadrons Tornado (Fighter Interceptor role)

That's more units in the twin Commanders armies. Whole divisons are ALOT of men. You have defensive advantage and ground and air. I need to use a navy, air and ground and land all under everything you have. So its more then a fair fight.

Your over 3x my size. Most of my Generals are out of commission for the time, need to wrap up a few battles and stuff. We'll see ok?


Oh sorry, I was going off your join date. Don't worry about it.

ooc: said this before, no response... hate to be pestering if I am, sorry if I'm cluttering this thread...

ooc: is it all right if I sign up to send a small squadron of volunteer fighter pilots to help the anti-AMF cause? It would make for good PR for the Bonstocknian military, though I would not get fully involved.

That or I could just sell gas, beans, and bullets to both sides...

Um, someone wanna fight me?

AMF, what about those missiles I fired at your fleet? (all 1200 of them >.<)

EDIT: Prae get on MSN
I cant Im on a laptop. Link me to that CGI mIRC thing.

Lol I know how many people are in a division, they were separated overseas before the invasion. Still up for it Kjata?

Uh..not even windows messenger? >.<
CGI IRC: Server irc.esper.net (http://www.polarhome.com/cgi-bin/chat/irc.cgi)

I'll be joining in the "OMP side" as well. No real preference as to who I fight, so I'll take on anyone willing.

CSJ, you're really the only one on this side I've ever been allied with in a conflict, so if you want to collaborate on this one, I'd be okay with that.

Lol I know how many people are in a division, they were separated overseas before the invasion. Still up for it Kjata?
About 20000 personnel, most of whom aren't combat (i.e. frontline) personnel.

Just for clerical stuff...I'm taking on novikov...

Uh..not even windows messenger? >.<
CGI IRC: Server irc.esper.net (http://www.polarhome.com/cgi-bin/chat/irc.cgi)I've been looking for this link again for quite a while now. Good to see it again.

Yeh, 2/3 is behind the lines personnel.

Um, someone wanna fight me?


Me, halbergardia and Jagada are spose to take you on, but me and u are both in UNA and i dont wanna piss anyone off..

Um, someone wanna fight me?

I don't want to, but it would be very funny if I did. (remeber "An Unwilling Conversion"?)

AMF, what about those missiles I fired at your fleet? (all 1200 of them >.<)

EDIT: Prae get on MSN

What are the range on those missiles?

Besides, the artillery would hit first anyways.

What are the range on those missiles?

Besides, the artillery would hit first anyways.
Longer than the artillery ;-)

I don't want to, but it would be very funny if I did. (remeber "An Unwilling Conversion"?)
Yup, good times, that was :)

Willink- Sure, I'll take you guys on. Don't worry about the UNA, I'll tell Borman not to be pissed.

Yup, good times, that was :)

Willink- Sure, I'll take you guys on. Don't worry about the UNA, I'll tell Borman not to be pissed.


Ok :D

Ok :D
Wait, you're invading me, right?

Wait, you're invading me, right?

I think so, ask Jagada.

I think so, ask Jagada.
OK, you guys go ahead and start up the thread, then.

I wopuld've liked to take you on Doom but you chose the wrong side.

Gentle reminder of a request for war

I wopuld've liked to take you on Doom but you chose the wrong side.
Nah, I think YOU chose the wrong side :)

Oops, halbergardia is at school, and still dosnt now were fighting you...

Longer than the artillery ;-)

I'm not fond of missile spam, keep that in mind. Especially SCRAMjets, which the community has determined are not feasible as weapons. Unless of course you're a PMT nation, which I myself am.

But there is a tradeoff- if you are indeed PMT, then you have to realize that I also have PMT weapons and defenses, such as advanced AI detection and countermeasures.

I'm not fond of missile spam, keep that in mind. Especially SCRAMjets, which the community has determined are not feasible as weapons.
...it has? SCRAMjets need to fly at high altitudes, they're expensive, they're easy to detect and not that hard to intercept if you have an advanced anti-missile system, but they're hardly unfeasible. I should also point out that whilst you are outside of my gun range there is little I can do except fire missiles.

*points to post edit, makes more sense*

I edited just as you posted.

I think missile saturation attacks should be outlawed along with WMD in this series of RPs. They ruin a good RP just as much in my book.

Neither am I. Although I did say that that was one of my first tactical options. Anyway, if you feel the need, feel free to use your PMT assets, I have similar things too.

Maybe our dreadnoughts can have a 1v1 gun battle.. >.>

Neither am I. Although I did say that that was one of my first tactical options. Anyway, if you feel the need, feel free to use your PMT assets, I have similar things too.

Maybe our dreadnoughts can have a 1v1 gun battle.. >.>


I'm not ruling your attack out completely, I'm just saying that I do have PMT assets, so I don't want you freaking out if you don't get the level of destruction you were hoping for. You should also realize that I have so many ships that I can without a doubt fire plenty of 'em back in defense.

I don't want to tell you how to play, I'm just trying to come to some sort of understanding here because our styles differ.

Ahh, help! AMF, I spent all of work doing a brilliant post for mine and Modern Atlantis' RP (And got a few glances whilst doing so) but can't find that thread you made with all the threads in it! Where is it?

Ahh, help! AMF, I spent all of work doing a brilliant post for mine and Modern Atlantis' RP (And got a few glances whilst doing so) but can't find that thread you made with all the threads in it! Where is it?This one? (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440105)

*points to post edit, makes more sense*

I edited just as you posted.
SCRAMjets arent PMT any more than SDs are.

EDIT: But whatever you and Hogsweat decide. Im not really a major player in this battle.

I'm not ruling your attack out completely, I'm just saying that I do have PMT assets, so I don't want you freaking out if you don't get the level of destruction you were hoping for. You should also realize that I have so many ships that I can without a doubt fire plenty of 'em back in defense.

I don't want to tell you how to play, I'm just trying to come to some sort of understanding here because our styles differ.

Yeah, that's fine. I don't really mind as I never imagined those missiles to do much against such a huge fleet anyway.

So what about a SD 1v1 gunfight?

Hogsweat, did you finish the tank drawing ?

yea but it wouldn't upload so i forgot about it and did this instaed [warspite picture - work in progress. about 40% done] (http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/139/warspite93zx.png)

i'll do it tommorow cos currently it is 4:09 AM.

ok

SCRAMjets arent PMT any more than SDs are.

EDIT: But whatever you and Hogsweat decide. Im not really a major player in this battle.


Hence why I asked if Hog was PMT.

Is it possible to be in the war RP, but not fighting? Say, with journalists and spies?

On one hand, my newspapers would obviously want descriptions of the Big Fight.

On the other, my CIA would want info on the various fighting methods, technologies, etc used.

Voila! The thread for mine and Modern Atlantis's battle:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9516280#post9516280

I'd be interested in getting involved in this, seeing as I've never been involved in a full-scale war. Any takers? I'd be on the side of AMF, since I rejoined NATO.

I'd be interested in getting involved in this, seeing as I've never been involved in a full-scale war. Any takers? I'd be on the side of AMF, since I rejoined NATO.

Whoo! That means I'll be fighting with Euro on my side to!

OK, you guys go ahead and start up the thread, then.

You're fighting Willink and Jagada, correct?

You're fighting Willink and Jagada, correct?


and halbergardia.

Sure, I'll join in the invasion of Doomingsland. Willink, Jagada: let's do this. I got my game face on! :p

You're fighting Willink and Jagada, correct?
Yup, Willink, Jagada, and Halberdgardia.

OK, someone go start the thread.

Yup, Willink, Jagada, and Halberdgardia.

OK, someone go start the thread.


I suck at starting threads, oh yeah im gonna play outta control remix in the backround constantly !

Maybe HailandKill would be interested in joining us? Or do we have enough already?

EDIT: Thread started! http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440216