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RomeW
16-09-2005, 02:32
2.) Me too

1.) Oh ok. I CLAIM ALL LAND LEFT ON MANIUM! Any expansions into it will be met with 0MG Hy00ge 1337 n00kz!!!!111one

Thanks for clearing that up. Also, is it possible someone can claim a bunch of land, but know that realisticly they couldn't militarily support those claims. And so when other people started expanding or settling in that land, they could like ignore it to save themselves from war?

ICly, you can really do whatever you want- you can have a crazy ruler who wants to claim everything even when there's no possible way to do that. I'll just start to have problems if there's masses of unclaimed land that others want that someone is OOCly preventing them from claiming.

I hope that answers your question (I'm not sure if I understood it completely).
Sharina
16-09-2005, 02:48
I can't allow you to claim the entire coast until you claim the whole island, because there's still some room there for other potential colonists. Raginsheep tried the same thing and I stopped him too. I know that in RL the coast would be claimed first, but I'm trying to keep this as inclusive as I can.

What do you suggest for my 7 day period (from now to next Thursday) then?
Brutix
16-09-2005, 02:51
Ill do the RPs soon after my homework... grr homework
RomeW
16-09-2005, 02:52
What do you suggest for my 7 day period (from now to next Thursday) then?

Probably along the north then.
Sharina
16-09-2005, 03:02
Probably along the north then.

Make it so.
Borman Empire
16-09-2005, 03:11
ICly, you can really do whatever you want- you can have a crazy ruler who wants to claim everything even when there's no possible way to do that. I'll just start to have problems if there's masses of unclaimed land that others want that someone is OOCly preventing them from claiming.

I hope that answers your question (I'm not sure if I understood it completely).

Yes it did.

IC:
The Imperial Government would like to make it known that they are hereby officially claiming any and all unclaimed land north of SafeHaven2, east of the Water Coolian colonial wall, west of current Borman colonial lands, and south of the body of water seperating GE and Borman. (I'll name it)
Brutix
16-09-2005, 03:31
RomeW do you still have a map of the old manium continent with the old colonies on it, and if not any one got it?
Borman Empire
16-09-2005, 23:15
Todays map (http://usera.imagecave.com/obsterray/Manium.PNG)

Today's word:
Of
Definition: um...of?
Sentance: That's part of it, she's part of his property, he's part of his property, they're all part of Satan's property
Brutix
17-09-2005, 01:31
Link to my thread about taking over the Tannenmille and Alioth colonies, of course only Alioth now until I have the map updated to show its under my control :-) Im not greedy...

The Colonies of Alioth and Tannenmille: Under Brutix Control (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9652601#post9652601)
RomeW
17-09-2005, 04:29
RomeW do you still have a map of the old manium continent with the old colonies on it, and if not any one got it?

You mean this? (http://www.geocities.com/dadothegreat2003/ManiumMapOfficial.PNG)

Also, funny story- what happened to the map I wanted to upload way back when was that I saved Borman Empire's map and forgot to rename it. Hence why it looked the same. *smacks head*

On more official matters:

IC:

The Roman Empire hereby formally claims the former colony of The Water Cooler as official Imperial Territory. We are doing this as we are taking care of the dinosaur situation present in the area.
Sharina
17-09-2005, 04:30
Okay- I shall revise my claims from yesterday.

Extend my claim one square to the east of my last square on the southern coast (which should have been colored in yesterday- Thursday). Then expand to the north from these squares (color one square for today- Friday).

Hope that made sense. :)
RomeW
17-09-2005, 05:07
I have updated the map. This time it should work....

Okay- I shall revise my claims from yesterday.

Extend my claim one square to the east of my last square on the southern coast (which should have been colored in yesterday- Thursday). Then expand to the north from these squares (color one square for today- Friday).

Hope that made sense. :)

Check the map: let me know if this is what you want.
Sharina
17-09-2005, 05:24
I have updated the map. This time it should work....



Check the map: let me know if this is what you want.


That'll do. :)
Borman Empire
17-09-2005, 15:32
Why you know update with yesterday's map? There's a more recent one where I have two strips of claims running down the Colonial wall

And those expansion squares had strips of orange going through so that you knew they were GE's. Which he asked of me over AIM.

Also your a day back expansion wise.
Brutix
17-09-2005, 15:48
Hey rome, how come tannemille isnt fully under my control? He gave it away to me right away for money. Wouldn't that mean i get the whole shabang unlike Alioth?
Praetonia
17-09-2005, 21:32
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=444616

Brutix and I have agreed to a territorial treaty. Please override all of our territorial expansions so that they bring our borders into line with those shown there.
Sharina
18-09-2005, 01:18
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=444616

Brutix and I have agreed to a territorial treaty. Please override all of our territorial expansions so that they bring our borders into line with those shown there.

What if a new player chooses to claim territory in these areas not directly under Brutix and Praetonian control yet?
Brutix
18-09-2005, 02:44
We'd force them out using our military might, since it is OUR land now...
Sharina
18-09-2005, 05:34
We'd force them out using our military might, since it is OUR land now...

Actually you can't do that (for the most part) as per RomeW's following rules as quoted from his first post in this thread.

8) Expansions CANNOT go into a claim spot or encircle one. You must give new nations at least a week's worth of expansion.

12) All participants in a RP must be willing participants- no one can be "dragged" into one. Some people here do not have the time for extensive RP's and this must be respected.

15) Vacations and "Reserving" claims- I realize that we'll need a rule like this, given how expansions are carried out per day. Anyway, I would like to officially state that if you are going on vacation and you want to keep on expanding, you must first state the duration of the time-off, so that I know about it. You are then allowed to state that you'd like your colony to keep growing while you're gone. This will be acceptable under the following conditions:

1) On the official map, you will officially annex your regular one-day maximum claim.
2) Once that is set, you will get however many days you requested "reserved" for you on the map as an outlined territory in addition to the one-day claim. However, the outlined territory is not officially yours- others will be allowed to expand into it if they want to, with limitations. This limitation stipulates that you will get at the very least half of what you requested or five days' worth of land, whichever one is smaller, but what you keep will be at the whims of the other active RP'ers.

16) "Bullying"- This is strictly prohibited. To understand what this means, it basically involves the use of intimidation as a means to get more land than you'd be able to claim officially. Now, ICly this would be okay (because nations do this all the time), and as long as it remains simply RP then I have no problem with it. If it turns into an instrument where someone "claims" more than they'd be allowed to then it becomes a problem. So, I ask that if you *do* want to ICly bully to please be OOCly respectful of the other users who also want land.

A special note in regard of this- any land that's outside of your control is a logistical nightmare to go over, because the land has no infrastructure that could aid your movement, and will remain so until you actually officially control it.

18) Conquests & Land Purchases. These shall be handled differently than regular claiming: because territorial changes in this regard come in the form of treaties and involves previously-claimed land, it is up to the parties involved to work out the land swap (which can be any size as long as the two parties agree to it and it only involves previously-claimed land) and then let me know about the transfer so I can put it on the map. The map will only be updated after the final land-transfer is settled. This means that it will only be updated (in cases of war) once a war is finished, because I don't have the time to update the map every hour as would be required during wartime.

Also, no active colony can be completely conquered in a war unless the user agrees to this provision. This is because allowing the colony to continue as a province of another involves a "required" RP and I want to avoid that. Plus, I want to avoid some of the more negative aspects of RPing- namely, when it becomes a (no pun intended) bloodsport competition instead of what it's supposed to be- the story of our nations. So, in short, if you want to go to war with someone, talk to them about it and agree upon everything, including how much land each party is willing to lose.

So in short, you're screwed if the new player stakes a claim in the vicinity of Bonstock or the "Dead Colonies" next to Bonstock unless....

1. Player goes inactive
2. Player agrees to a Manium Colonial War between him / her and you.
3. RomeW rules in favor of you
4. Some other extenuating reason or eventuality
Praetonia
18-09-2005, 08:31
Actually you can't do that (for the most part) as per RomeW's following rules as quoted from his first post in this thread.
Well actually we can, so long as it's IC, according to RomeW's rules, and on top of that I dont see how a new nation would be able to get in there since the entire coast is claimed. And even if a new nation did randomly settle there, they'd only be able to take 1 square, whereas we would take all the rest of Bonstock instantly (at least that's what Vastiva did about half a dozen times in order to get a massive colony).
Brutix
18-09-2005, 13:32
Yes exactly, since my colony already blocks out the border, it would be considered an act of war (unless allied) to fly/transport ANYTHING through mine or Praetonia's territory. Including Bonstock since RomeW has stated he isn't inactive yet. Also the fact (like Praetonia quoted RomeW) we can bully the nation as long as it is done ICly, thus meaning we can prevent anyone from taking the land just like what Borman is doing north of Safehaven2.

EDIT: Another thing RomeW, my colony that was absorbed by Vastiva, according to the old map, I should technically own a colony behind Durin's Wall, and the one south should extend to the right above Taldaan and Sarzonia a bit.
Praetonia
18-09-2005, 13:59
Yeah. Does Vastiva actually even RP anymore? The last I heard he had been deated.
Sharina
18-09-2005, 14:51
Well actually we can, so long as it's IC, according to RomeW's rules, and on top of that I dont see how a new nation would be able to get in there since the entire coast is claimed. And even if a new nation did randomly settle there, they'd only be able to take 1 square, whereas we would take all the rest of Bonstock instantly (at least that's what Vastiva did about half a dozen times in order to get a massive colony).

This is the kind of thing I'm iffy about. IIRC, RomeW's rules said that you cannot instantly claim former colonies, as I believe he made that rule to prevent players from gaining too much land in a too short period of time. You'd have to take over the old colonies square by square. Even if you reserved claims, a new player can disrupt your reserved claims.

I guess I'm speaking from experience- as I asked if I could conquer or integrate the old colonies on Sheepfruit Island, but RomeW said I had to expand into the former colonies square by square, not instanteous take-over.

I guess the final decision is up to RomeW.
Sharina
18-09-2005, 15:02
Yes exactly, since my colony already blocks out the border, it would be considered an act of war (unless allied) to fly/transport ANYTHING through mine or Praetonia's territory. Including Bonstock since RomeW has stated he isn't inactive yet. Also the fact (like Praetonia quoted RomeW) we can bully the nation as long as it is done ICly, thus meaning we can prevent anyone from taking the land just like what Borman is doing north of Safehaven2.

EDIT: Another thing RomeW, my colony that was absorbed by Vastiva, according to the old map, I should technically own a colony behind Durin's Wall, and the one south should extend to the right above Taldaan and Sarzonia a bit.

Yeah, I am aware the IC bullying is allowed. *BUT*....

Any war or annexations initated by the "bully" will be subject to the victim's desire to RP the war / conflict. If the victim doesn't want to RP a war or such, then the "bully" is screwed, as RomeW has stated he doesn't want people in Manium to be forced into a RP unwillingly as per his rule post.

That was the point I was trying to make in my response to you last night.


EDIT:

This rule is quoted as follows...

12) All participants in a RP must be willing participants- no one can be "dragged" into one. Some people here do not have the time for extensive RP's and this must be respected.

and...

16) "Bullying"- This is strictly prohibited. To understand what this means, it basically involves the use of intimidation as a means to get more land than you'd be able to claim officially. Now, ICly this would be okay (because nations do this all the time), and as long as it remains simply RP then I have no problem with it. If it turns into an instrument where someone "claims" more than they'd be allowed to then it becomes a problem. So, I ask that if you *do* want to ICly bully to please be OOCly respectful of the other users who also want land.

Note the bold emphasis in #16.

The only reason I'm bringing this up is because I want to clear these IC bullying and "Instant-gain-of-former-colony-holdings". If Praetonia is allowed to annex Bonstock and Brutix is allowed to annex the other colonies on Southern coast of Manium, I have no problem with these except that I should be provided the same courtesy regarding the old colony of Executors.

Its nothing personal OOC'ly, as I want to make sure that the rules in Manium treat everyone equally, without any favoritism that I've seen happen in other RP groups (like the Earth series for example).
Praetonia
18-09-2005, 17:19
*sigh* This is what happens when you take a free form RP site and try to impose about 2 dozen earth-style rules onto players on one specific part of it. Several of those rules appear to conflict (especially the "bullying" one which I never understood). I dont really see the need for a lot of them to be honest. In America France tried to encircle Britain's colonies, and when the two went to war one could not just decide it couldnt be bothered with it and continue to take up land whilst being practically invlunerable.

For that matter, could I claim that Safehaven2 is "encircling" me because he blocked off my expansion route to the North? Well yes I could... but that would be silly. I dont see the need for a lot of these rules - in NS in general, nations can ignore whatever they want (including wars) but unless they have a valid reason then they'll be looked down upon for it and eventually ignored themselves.

In the end, it's RomeW's decision to make. I dont personally think that NS RP is about 'treating everyone equally' in the way you mean it - the fun in NS for me is the dynamism and unpredictability of it all, and the knowledge that Im not OOCly protected against IC actions and others cannot gain OOC protection from my IC actions. Until RomeW makes a decision, Brutix and I will continue to see official borders set at where they are now, even if much of the territory is not yet occupied, and we will militarily oppose any attempt by any foreign power to impose its will upon the area. There is plenty of Manium land left afterall, and none of that we are claiming is coastline which would be open to a new player anyway.
Sharina
18-09-2005, 18:24
Praetonia, I apologize if I came across too harsh or bull-headed. I'm only trying to look out for new and prospective Manium members, and I've had some bad experiences watching big nations bully newbies around in RP's here at I.I.

I just didn't want the I.I. crap to happen in Manium, as I want Manium to be a group of respectable, reasonable, and friendly players who would be willing to help newbies learn RP'ing or teach them how to operate colonies or run their nation (should they base their nation in Manium). If we're able to keep even one newbie interested in NS rather than quitting it in digust or frustration, then we the Manium community will have achieved something worthwhile.

Once again, I apologize if I was getting on your nerves, Praetonia. I didn't mean to snap at you or Brutix. Please accept my apologies. :)
Vastivan Alaska
18-09-2005, 20:44
OOC: Just for Prae's sake... because I'm tired of his wondering if I'm dead yet (ghoulish, isn't it?)

***
IC:
(excerpted from VNN Channel 722 News Broadcast)

...lemming burger futures.

Our Sultan has confirmed the Caliphship of Colonel Fiyaad Shamshan, creating in essence the separate protectorate of Sisu Arshu. The country will remain
-Vastivan- territory legally, but will have a semi-autonomous governance for day to day proceedures. Full text of the confirmation documentation can be found on our website.

Small dogs named Caesar have been found to...

***

OOC: Now go have a look for "Sisu Arshu" as a country, it was created long ago when RomeW wanted a distinct region for players on Manium.

And once again, just because you didn't get it the first time, Prae - I'm REAL LIFE busy with evacuees. Any questions about "why?", turn on your news. :rolleyes:
Praetonia
18-09-2005, 20:48
OOC: Just for Prae's sake... because I'm tired of his wondering if I'm dead yet (ghoulish, isn't it?)

OOC: Now go have a look for "Sisu Arshu" as a country, it was created long ago when RomeW wanted a distinct region for players on Manium.

And once again, just because you didn't get it the first time, Prae - I'm REAL LIFE busy with evacuees. Any questions about "why?", turn on your news. :rolleyes:
...

wth?

I wonder if you're still here once in one thread and you appear to become very angry and then make some obnoxious post implying that Im constantly hounding you on it or something...? Seriously, you need to calm down mate.
Brutix
19-09-2005, 01:39
For some reason, Ive always sensed a bit of tension (even old manium) between you two (Vastiva - Prae). No matter whats going on. (Oh, I accept you apology, I didn't find it harsh at all though, just normal debate etc...) But thats all I really wanted to say... pointless huh?
Praetonia
19-09-2005, 20:12
Yeah Sharina, that's fine. I didnt think that you snapped. Perhaps I snapped and that's what gave you that impression. If I did, then sorry.

Brutix - That's odd, because I dont think Ive ever RPed with Vastiva... I'll admit that we've had some rather heated discussions in which he seemed somewhat rude, but other than that I havent had any contact with him.
Borman Empire
20-09-2005, 15:36
damn i'm dedicated to ns. I'm home sick w/ some rash thing, and I'm typing on the keyboard over a napkin, possibly spread through touch and so..yeah.

But anyway, today's map (http://usera.imagecave.com/obsterray/Manium.PNG). If you made a claim and its not on the map, just post a link to the post and I'll add it.
Praetonia
20-09-2005, 17:50
Can you copy the Praetonia / Brutix border as agreed on the thread I posted a while ago as a dotted line and then have both of our colonies expand to meet it as it is updated? THanks
The Lightning Star
20-09-2005, 21:54
I claim all that is unclaimed north of the river and west of GE(which, by the way, has a gaping hole in the middle of it's colony), and I'd like the rest of my claims to be spent making a foothold on Sheepfruit Island (After all, Sharina can't have the ENTIRE Island to itself).
RomeW
21-09-2005, 01:03
Okay, just to clear a few things up:

(1) The colonies of Bonstock, Camewot and Vistadin are considered inactive. Thus, they are treated as "unclaimed land" and anyone can move into their lands, but only after the nation finishes annexing it through the maximum-claim rule. Consent is not required to claim inactive colonies.

(2) The "bullying" rule runs as follows:

-If you want a certain area of land, you MUST go for it via the claiming rules. You cannot leave it unclaimed.
-Also, if a large tract of land is unclaimed and there are several nations who want that territory, then restraint must be shown, because I don't want this to turn into a case where people feel like they can't make claims when there's land available.

I will say that currently there isn't an acre of land on Manium that isn't claimed either officially or through the threat of force. So far, we haven't had any newcomers so the current situation is fine, but if there are newcomers then I will ask for some restraint just so some land can be opened up.

(Addendum- this also means that until the land is completely taken, the available coastlines (and seven days' worth of territory right next to them) must be maintained so newcomers can come in)

(3) The "encircling" rule only applies if the colony in question is under seven days old. Colonies with more than seven days' worth of land can be encircled. So, no, Safehaven2's colony is not encircling any colony because the colonies to the south of it are more than seven days' old.

Now, as far as the Brutix-Praetonia Treaty is concerned:

It is legal. However, it shall be bound to the same rules that govern the territorial conquest of inactive colonies, namely they must be taken through the claim rule. This is different than Vastiva's conquest of Nova Hope, since that was worked out via treaties when Nova Hope was active. Similar arrangements have not been made- to my knowledge- concerning the inactive colonies (and if they have, they must be brought to my attention), which is why they count as "unclaimed" land. The expansions will have to start northerly and then proceed southward so that there's a coast for a potential newcomer, but other than that as long as the rules are met the treaty is legal.

I know that in RL, there are no rules that govern fairness because, really, world politics isn't fair. However, this is merely a game and I at least want to maintain a fair degree of fairness so that everyone- newcomers and oldtimers- can have as much fun as they can.

Thank you.
The Island of Rose
21-09-2005, 01:10
Bah, I must do an RP on my Colony.

By the way, can you expand mine all the way up the coast and get it over with already?
Brutix
21-09-2005, 01:53
This post is to say a discussion will begin about the treaty and the newly inactive colonies. So thus please check the treaty or Prae-Brutix to see the ideal.
Hamptonshire
21-09-2005, 02:26
Hamptonian expansion into formerly claimed territory: map (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/hamptonshire/NS%20Pictures/maniummapofficial.png). I'm actually going to mention this expansion in an RP. :eek:
Brutix
21-09-2005, 02:52
Be careful expanding into that Camewot territory, Praetonia might have already bought it so therefor you woudnt be able to expand into it. Just a warning, he told me online he was trying to buy Camewot.
Sharina
21-09-2005, 03:17
I've been thinking about this lately...

I might change my mind about Manium. I still want to particiate in Manium, but I've been thinking about making Sheepfruit Island my main nation, as I have NEVER RP'ed my nation's location in NS Earth, and I don't really feel like making up a landmass right now.

So would it be all right if I had Sheepfruit Island as my homeland for my NS nation (should I decide on it)?
Brutix
21-09-2005, 03:43
Thats what my colony was at first the whol mass was moved from the scattered Isles of Karuia to Manium to start anew. Until I found a new region, I might be moving my nations basis, it actually might be hammerites but hey who cares? It would be a good idea and bad. Since no decision is only good ;)
Sharina
21-09-2005, 04:49
Thats what my colony was at first the whol mass was moved from the scattered Isles of Karuia to Manium to start anew. Until I found a new region, I might be moving my nations basis, it actually might be hammerites but hey who cares? It would be a good idea and bad. Since no decision is only good ;)

Tell me about it.

One thing I hate about NS Earth is the sheer size and distances involved. People RP their fleets travelling 10,000+ miles in a day or two, and some oceans in NS Earth are easily 200,000 miles wide. To travel that, any fleet would need a YEAR to travel that far at like 25 MPH.

25 MPH times 24 hours = 600 miles sailed in 1 day. Then 600 miles times 365 days in a year = 216,000 miles travelled in 1 year (roughly distance between Earth and the Moon).

See what I mean? In reality, it'd take 1 year to travel acrross a NS Earth Pacific Ocean as opposed to 2 weeks in our RL Earth to sail from California to Thailand.

Not to mention the impossibility of launching aircraft and such from land bases in your homeland aganist an enemy 100,000 miles away. Even 20,000 miles is beyond the range of our MT bombers and fighters, even with refueling planes. The refueling planes can only go so far before they run out of range... hence, 30,000+ miles = impossible for B2's and stuff to travel. The only way to do this is aircraft carriers, but B2's and most heavy bombers can't fit on a carrier.

These are some of the reasons why I never RP on NS Earth because people god-mod these kinds of stuff. Then they have the balls to say I god-mod whenever I use some semi-Post-MT stuff like hydrogen fuel cells, railguns, large space stations, asteroid weapons, etc. when they god-mod their bombers or ships travelling 100,000+ miles in a snap.

I'll stop my rant- but I just wanted to let you guys know I prefer to base my NS nation in Manium because the distances in Manium are more realistic and manageable than the majority of NS Earth, and much easier to see where I am in relative to everybody else.
RomeW
21-09-2005, 23:43
Brutix: For my purposes, Camewot's land is open to anyone, Hamptonshire included. Thus, whatever Hamptonshire annexes is his, but if Praetonia does manage to buy Camewot's former territory then he'll be entitled to half of it, unless Hamptonshire and Praetonia work something out differently.

Sharina: You can make Manium your main home if you want- how you treat your possessions here is up to you. I personally don't do it because I tend to get too "attached" to the land in the process, but if you want to base your main nation here go right ahead.

As far as distances are concerned, don't forget, Manium's total area is 1.2 times the total area of the Earth (including the oceans).
Vastivan Alaska
22-09-2005, 04:57
I've been thinking about this lately...

I might change my mind about Manium. I still want to particiate in Manium, but I've been thinking about making Sheepfruit Island my main nation, as I have NEVER RP'ed my nation's location in NS Earth, and I don't really feel like making up a landmass right now.

So would it be all right if I had Sheepfruit Island as my homeland for my NS nation (should I decide on it)?

That would give us a common border... Vastiva's claim on that island is a bunch of fruit trees (and their support buildings) and a single "residence" for the Sultan as a summer house-getaway. Amazingly, by the map size equivalence, it's the size of Great Britain (if I remember right). Lots of fruit exports from there...
Azazia
22-09-2005, 06:51
I was wondering about the feasibility of the United Kingdom claiming some land in Cordensa, preferably Lot 19. Now if that is possible, could the first expansion be what I presume to be eastward towards the coastline just to the north of Lot 18? Thirdly, if that is not possible I'd rather simply have Lot 39, again if possible. I have a little something written up, but I just want to get some sort of approval before I go ahead and post it on the forums.
RomeW
22-09-2005, 21:59
I was wondering about the feasibility of the United Kingdom claiming some land in Cordensa, preferably Lot 19. Now if that is possible, could the first expansion be what I presume to be eastward towards the coastline just to the north of Lot 18? Thirdly, if that is not possible I'd rather simply have Lot 39, again if possible. I have a little something written up, but I just want to get some sort of approval before I go ahead and post it on the forums.

Lot 19 is yours. It may not reflect on the map for a while since I'm away from my main computer, but you will have Lot 19.
Borman Empire
22-09-2005, 22:15
Map (http://usera.imagecave.com/obsterray/Manium.PNG)

Now me gotta do HW.

Rome, how are ya?
RomeW
23-09-2005, 01:03
Map (http://usera.imagecave.com/obsterray/Manium.PNG)

Now me gotta do HW.

Rome, how are ya?

Good. How are you? My homework situation isn't so bad, but it's just September. The tough part is the 2-3 hour commute every day to class, but the good news is that the house just might be sold today. *knocks on wood*
Sharina
23-09-2005, 02:01
Its that time of the week once again.

I'd like to expand flush aganist TLS's expansion in hopes of containing him.

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9345/manium26fc.png

My 7 day expansion is outlined by the red boxes with my color within them with yellow slashes running through them.

I can forsee a war happening between TLS and Sharina, should I decide to base my nation in Sheepfruit Island.
Borman Empire
23-09-2005, 02:53
Good. How are you? My homework situation isn't so bad, but it's just September. The tough part is the 2-3 hour commute every day to class, but the good news is that the house just might be sold today. *knocks on wood*

Actually, I'm horrible. I have poison Ivy on my hands and its so fucking painful and itching. Like an hour ago I wa relieving the pain by beating my hand with a remote. And yeah, in like 1.5 months I have 2 big things and 1 smaller thing due for AP.
Sharina
23-09-2005, 03:20
Actually, I'm horrible. I have poison Ivy on my hands and its so fucking painful and itching. Like an hour ago I wa relieving the pain by beating my hand with a remote. And yeah, in like 1.5 months I have 2 big things and 1 smaller thing due for AP.

Ouch! That sucks. :(

Have you looked into any medications for poison ivy?
Borman Empire
23-09-2005, 21:26
Ouch! That sucks. :(

Have you looked into any medications for poison ivy?

Nope. Just some gel thing to relieve itching.
Azazia
24-09-2005, 04:14
Here's the link to the colonization of Cordensa by the United Kingdom. Within the next day or two, if allowed, I'd like to also expand from Lot 19 towards what I presume to be east. The area is open with no number and it would simply link 19 to the actual coast with the idea being that the silt deposits from the river would end up near the mouth of the river and provide fertile fields for agriculture. Additionally, it isn't too much of a problem I provided a geographical reason for that one curve in that river by having a series of hills slightly altering the course of the water.

Anyways, the link is HERE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=445956). I sincerely hope you all enjoy.
RomeW
24-09-2005, 07:06
*Just a quick post*

The maps are updated. Let me know if I have anything wrong.
Borman Empire
24-09-2005, 14:32
Nice, looks good.

I made a map with my claims but my host thing isn't working...so I'll put it up later, maybe tomorrow.
Brutix
24-09-2005, 22:58
Our government and Praetonia's government have decided on letting me have the Vistadin and Camewotian colony, and letting Praetonia take the whole of Bonstock. Please rightout the new territorial line. Danke schon.
Vastivan Alaska
25-09-2005, 06:42
Actually, I'm horrible. I have poison Ivy on my hands and its so fucking painful and itching. Like an hour ago I wa relieving the pain by beating my hand with a remote. And yeah, in like 1.5 months I have 2 big things and 1 smaller thing due for AP.

OOC: Benadryl tablets (if you don't mind being sleepy), hydrocortisone cream on the hands. And you can run hot water over it for a bit before you apply the cream if you don't burn yourself. Soap and hot water help remove the oil which is causing the itch.
Borman Empire
25-09-2005, 15:40
OOC: Benadryl tablets (if you don't mind being sleepy), hydrocortisone cream on the hands. And you can run hot water over it for a bit before you apply the cream if you don't burn yourself. Soap and hot water help remove the oil which is causing the itch.

I was using benadryl, but then the entire bag with the tablets and other things just up and dissapeared. I got some gel thing for my hands. And hot water brings the rash out more.
Borman Empire
25-09-2005, 21:27
I don't have anything to do right now, except homework and wine labeling, so I did map (http://usera.imagecave.com/obsterray/Manium.PNG). Got my claims from yesterday and expansions for today for everyone. Now I should really start that work.
The Lightning Star
25-09-2005, 22:41
I'd like to expand as much more as possible into Sheepfruit Island.
Rome West
26-09-2005, 04:52
I don't have anything to do right now, except homework and wine labeling, so I did map (http://usera.imagecave.com/obsterray/Manium.PNG). Got my claims from yesterday and expansions for today for everyone. Now I should really start that work.

I don't mean to sound mean or anything, but I'd like you to move the squares that border Safehaven2 northward. I want to leave the coastline between your lands and Safehaven2 open (for newcomers) until you've actually physically claimed the interior. Thanks.
Praetonia
26-09-2005, 10:38
Our government and Praetonia's government have decided on letting me have the Vistadin and Camewotian colony, and letting Praetonia take the whole of Bonstock. Please rightout the new territorial line. Danke schon.
^^
Camewot
26-09-2005, 18:39
OOC: I did not give permission to that, and was not informed of any thread where you try and take my territory. If there is one, direct me to it and I will fight. If there is no thread, then stay away from my land.
Borman Empire
26-09-2005, 21:52
I don't mean to sound mean or anything, but I'd like you to move the squares that border Safehaven2 northward. I want to leave the coastline between your lands and Safehaven2 open (for newcomers) until you've actually physically claimed the interior. Thanks.

YOU MEANIE!!

Fine, but if a curent RPer lands Im surrounding it and eating them.

*Waves fist*
Borman Empire
26-09-2005, 21:58
Alright, I changed it around and updated, but Im too lazy to host right now.
The Lightning Star
26-09-2005, 22:17
Alright, I changed it around and updated, but Im too lazy to host right now.

Lazy n00b :p

j/k, of course. On the n00b part. Not the lazy part.
Borman Empire
26-09-2005, 22:38
Lazy n00b :p

j/k, of course. On the n00b part. Not the lazy part.

What I'm not laz...Damn, I can't finish my sentance...too lazy.
Sharina
27-09-2005, 01:03
OOC: I did not give permission to that, and was not informed of any thread where you try and take my territory. If there is one, direct me to it and I will fight. If there is no thread, then stay away from my land.

You were removed and claims were revoked because you weren't active in Manium for a long while, without any posting here in the Manium thread.
Hamptonshire
27-09-2005, 03:53
My expansion along the east coast should be marked as complete by now.
RomeW
27-09-2005, 04:10
Camewot: Your lands became available because you were inactive- however, if you wish to fight, you can fight.

Borman Empire: I'm only doing it so we can have some more land for newcomers, that's all.

*Service Announcement*

I have decided to mark out on the map what lands are reserved for newcomers. These lands shall remain *out of bounds* unless there is absolutely no more land for you to get.
Sharina
27-09-2005, 04:52
I would like to revise my expansion, if that is possible.

TLS has failed to specify how many days worth of expansion he desires to undertake on Sheepfruit Island. Towards this end, I would like to revise my expansion to claim the same squares as he is, and I will settle for half the expansion- half of each square shall be his and half shall be mine per the claiming rules. This is done so to contain TLS from expanding on Sheepfruit Island.

I cannot help but wonder exactly why TLS wants Sheepfruit Island. Is it because of OOC reasons or IC reasons? It is far removed from his primary colony in northwest Manium.

If TLS is allowed to continue expanding in Sheepfruit Island, the supposed new home of my nation (still thinking about that), then I will only have two courses of action left to me.

1. Buy TLS lands on Sheepfruit Island from him. If that fails, it may end up as a war, as Sharina IC'ly believes Sheepfruit Island is rightfully Sharinan, as Sharina does not want to expand onto mainland Manium.

2. Expand into Pescium or Condensa as Sharina will need the space that TLS pulled out from under the rug- or so to speak (if the war is rejected because of OOC reasons).
RomeW
27-09-2005, 05:55
Sharina: He did specify how many days:

I'd like to expand as much more as possible into Sheepfruit Island.

That basically means the maximum he can have, which in this case is seven days. However, if you want what he has I suggest working something out with him.
Sharina
27-09-2005, 06:07
Sharina: He did specify how many days:



That basically means the maximum he can have, which in this case is seven days. However, if you want what he has I suggest working something out with him.

I stand corrected then.

However, I'd like to revise my expansion to match his expansion by expanding into his reserved claims (according to Manium rules, this is allowed) with the intent of interfering with his expansion in Sheepfruit Island (He can have the inner half of the squares facing his lands, and I take the outer half of each square which should face my Sharinan territory), which I believe is fully legit, given that he has been a Manium player for quite some time and not a newcomer nation.
RomeW
27-09-2005, 06:17
I stand corrected then.

However, I'd like to revise my expansion to match his expansion by expanding into his reserved claims (according to Manium rules, this is allowed) with the intent of interfering with his expansion in Sheepfruit Island (He can have the inner half of the squares facing his lands, and I take the outer half of each square which should face my Sharinan territory), which I believe is fully legit, given that he has been a Manium player for quite some time and not a newcomer nation.

Well, considering I wrote the rules, I should know them ;) .

What I will do is turn two of his northernmost squares to your squares (because you only have two more squares left), and leave your original two squares unclaimed. This does mean that TLS can go after what you left behind, because he'd still be within his limits.
Sharina
27-09-2005, 06:22
Well, considering I wrote the rules, I should know them ;) .

What I will do is turn two of his northernmost squares to your squares (because you only have two more squares left), and leave your original two squares unclaimed. This does mean that TLS can go after what you left behind, because he'd still be within his limits.

Okay. Then when my claims period is up, I would like to expand into the remaining squares that TLS is expanding into and split each square into half like what TLS and Generic Empire did a couple weeks ago near the big lake and Alioth area. Just letting you know. :)
RomeW
27-09-2005, 06:36
Okay. Then when my claims period is up, I would like to expand into the remaining squares that TLS is expanding into and split each square into half like what TLS and Generic Empire did a couple weeks ago near the big lake and Alioth area. Just letting you know. :)

Well, assuming TLS doesn't get there first... :)

On another note Sharina, how's your ear coming along?
Camewot
27-09-2005, 17:14
Very well, can I know who took my land and than I'll assume you invaded me and start a thread!
Sharina
27-09-2005, 17:22
Well, assuming TLS doesn't get there first... :)

On another note Sharina, how's your ear coming along?

My implant will be activated next Monday, meaning I'll be experiencing the sensation of sound for the very first time ever come Monday. I'll let you guys know how it goes. :)
Rome West
27-09-2005, 19:34
Camewot: Praetonia and Brutix are splitting your land.

Sharina: Sounds great. Are you excited or terrified? (Or both)
Sharina
27-09-2005, 19:55
Camewot: Praetonia and Brutix are splitting your land.

Sharina: Sounds great. Are you excited or terrified? (Or both)

Both.

Excited because I'll be able to do the impossible- a deaf person becoming able to hear.

Scared because I'm not sure what to expect, and becoming overwhelmed at the sensation itself as I have had no experience or understanding of the sensation of sound.
Praetonia
27-09-2005, 21:44
Both.

Excited because I'll be able to do the impossible- a deaf person becoming able to hear.

Scared because I'm not sure what to expect, and becoming overwhelmed at the sensation itself as I have had no experience or understanding of the sensation of sound.
Cool. Do tell us all what it's like when you have it done... it must be so strange going so long without a sense and then having it "activated". Do you think you'll be able to understand spoken English when you hear it? Or will you have to learn to recognsie the sounds etc? Anyway the best of luck to you.
Brutix
27-09-2005, 22:16
Wow, thats cool, being able to hear. Ive always feared going deaf since I love music. Think, you'll be able to hear music! I never knew that you were deaf, but good luck with it!
RomeW
28-09-2005, 00:38
Both.

Excited because I'll be able to do the impossible- a deaf person becoming able to hear.

Scared because I'm not sure what to expect, and becoming overwhelmed at the sensation itself as I have had no experience or understanding of the sensation of sound.

I would be too in your situation- not knowing what to expect but at the same time thrilled that I could hear. Do you know what time of day it will turn on?
Sharina
28-09-2005, 00:49
I don't know the exact time, but I was told to report to the hospital Monday morning.
RomeW
28-09-2005, 01:04
I don't know the exact time, but I was told to report to the hospital Monday morning.

Did they tell you it would be turned on then?
Elephantum
28-09-2005, 01:13
If possible, could I claim spot 1 on cordensa? Not entirely sure how manium works
Sharina
28-09-2005, 01:22
Did they tell you it would be turned on then?

Yeah- When I went in to have my stitches taken out at the end of Aug. they told me to come in the morning on Oct. 3rd for the implant activation.
RomeW
28-09-2005, 01:39
Elephantum: That's exactly how it works. Welcome to Manium.

Sharina: That's good. I'd hate to have the implant activate without me knowing what to expect.
Elephantum
28-09-2005, 02:01
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=446642
my introduction to Manium and creation of new bahrain
Borman Empire
28-09-2005, 03:51
Wow, Sharina, that's gotta be a big deal. I wish you the best of luck man. When you get your hearing listen to some rock, the best music you'll encounter. And yeah, tell us what it's like, it must be really weird.
RomeW
28-09-2005, 05:28
When you get your hearing listen to some rock, the best music you'll encounter.

Well, we don't want to shock the poor lady, but once she gets used to sound, then rock is a must. :D
Evir Bruck Saulsbury
28-09-2005, 07:42
Wow, work, moving, and school keeps you distracted for three weeks and things heat up. Good to see that my expansion was done; didn't realize that the claim spaces were so huge for Cordensa. . . and on that note, I would like to expand, I say, three days down from my eastern border to the red line, then four days east along the line. I'll try and rp it hopefully by next week. Thanks!
The Lightning Star
28-09-2005, 20:23
Well, we don't want to shock the poor lady, but once she gets used to sound, then rock is a must. :D

Rock is overrated. Not all rock, mind you, but most of it.

I would personally listen to classical music first. I find it more inspiring and a better way to be introduced to the world of music than Heavy Metal full of "Heil Satans!".
RomeW
28-09-2005, 23:06
Rock is overrated. Not all rock, mind you, but most of it.

I would personally listen to classical music first. I find it more inspiring and a better way to be introduced to the world of music than Heavy Metal full of "Heil Satans!".

Well, not *all* rock is "Heil Satan!" but I will agree with you that some of it *is* overrated (for example, some of the "newer" death metal acts that think they sound tough simply because they growl).

Though TLS, do you know Cradle of Filth? They combine classical and metal together and it's quite interesting actually.
Elephantum
28-09-2005, 23:11
Must manium rps be realistic? (Looks at monkey storefron with evil smile)
RomeW
28-09-2005, 23:17
Well, we don't have a set time frame for which Manium is (i.e., wether it's MT, PMT, FT, etc.) but most of us here are either MT or PMT, so the rule of thumb here is that if you're going to use FT be reasonable with it (I should also mention that regardless of tech level you still have to abide by the claim limits).
Elephantum
28-09-2005, 23:22
Well, we don't have a set time frame for which Manium is (i.e., wether it's MT, PMT, FT, etc.) but most of us here are either MT or PMT, so the rule of thumb here is that if you're going to use FT be reasonable with it (I should also mention that regardless of tech level you still have to abide by the claim limits).

Well, the nation itself would be MT, possibly degenerating, but I was reffering to enslaving monkeys from that storefront to be the slave/working class of my lands (possibly a feudal style system). I might just end up feudal with humans, but monkeys are much cooler.
RomeW
28-09-2005, 23:26
Well, the nation itself would be MT, possibly degenerating, but I was reffering to enslaving monkeys from that storefront to be the slave/working class of my lands (possibly a feudal style system). I might just end up feudal with humans, but monkeys are much cooler.

If you want to use monkeys, go right ahead.
Elephantum
28-09-2005, 23:28
bwahahahaha....

Keep in mind, the settlers have seen planet of the Apes, so they'll be prepared. :p
RomeW
28-09-2005, 23:31
bwahahahaha....

Keep in mind, the settlers have seen planet of the Apes, so they'll be prepared. :p

I feel sorry for the monkeys :p
Borman Empire
29-09-2005, 03:34
Rock is overrated. Not all rock, mind you, but most of it.

I would personally listen to classical music first. I find it more inspiring and a better way to be introduced to the world of music than Heavy Metal full of "Heil Satans!".

I TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT!!! You can't just lump anything with a guitar into a giant generic 'rock' catagory. Death Metal (Ex: "AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! SATAN!!!!!!!!) and rock and roll (Ex: "If you want Rock! *Guitar* You got it!) are two different things. And most of the non-death metal rock IS NOT overrated.
The Lightning Star
29-09-2005, 03:38
I TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT!!! You can't just lump anything with a guitar into a giant generic 'rock' catagory. Death Metal (Ex: "AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! SATAN!!!!!!!!) and rock and roll (Ex: "If you want Rock! *Guitar* You got it!) are two different things. And most of the non-death metal rock IS NOT overrated.

Pfffffffffffft.

But I have one thing to say: Do NOT get introduced to sound by listening to rap. *shudder*

Get introduced to it by THIS (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/11940)!
Rome West
29-09-2005, 22:29
Pfffffffffffft.

But I have one thing to say: Do NOT get introduced to sound by listening to rap. *shudder*

Get introduced to it by THIS (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/11940)!

Go underground my friend. The rap's better there.
Sharina
29-09-2005, 22:47
Its that time again. ;)

I'd like to proceed with my plan of expansion- try to expand into TLS's expansion squares. Failing that, I would like to surround TLS claims as much as possible to contain its expansion in Sheepfruit Island.
The Lightning Star
29-09-2005, 22:51
Its that time again. ;)

I'd like to proceed with my plan of expansion- try to expand into TLS's expansion squares. Failing that, I would like to surround TLS claims as much as possible to contain its expansion in Sheepfruit Island.

Advance all you like, Sharina.

I already have a great enough foothold! My defences are being upgraded, and more troops being flooded in. As long as I will it, you will never control all of Sheepfruit Island.

Bwahahahahhahahahaaa!

Oh, and if there's any land I could advance into on Sheepfruit, I claim it.
Borman Empire
30-09-2005, 00:31
YES!!! ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!!! On a side note, I tell someone that when I declare war on them cause it rules so much.

And most rap...well...shall we say it is worth not hearing.
Sharina
30-09-2005, 00:34
Advance all you like, Sharina.

I already have a great enough foothold! My defences are being upgraded, and more troops being flooded in. As long as I will it, you will never control all of Sheepfruit Island.

Bwahahahahhahahahaaa!

Oh, and if there's any land I could advance into on Sheepfruit, I claim it.

Hah.

You have two colonies to worry about. I have one.

You have Generic Empire and me to worry about. I only have you to worry about.

The situation favors Sharina. ;)
RomeW
30-09-2005, 00:36
And most rap...well...shall we say it is worth not hearing.

Can I ask what rap you find worth hearing, out of curiosity?
Borman Empire
30-09-2005, 00:52
Can I ask what rap you find worth hearing, out of curiosity?

Rap where YOU DIE!!! I mean...um...excuse that outbreak. I'm sorry.

A couple songs like Bring 'em Out, maybe in the club.

I updated map and hosted it, but lost link. I'll get it in a while.
The Lightning Star
30-09-2005, 00:52
Hah.

You have two colonies to worry about. I have one.

You have Generic Empire and me to worry about. I only have you to worry about.

The situation favors Sharina. ;)

But my nation is more uber-than yours!
Borman Empire
30-09-2005, 00:56
But my nation is more uber-than yours!

OOOOOOOOOOOOOO! That's a challenge.
RomeW
30-09-2005, 01:13
OOOOOOOOOOOOOO! That's a challenge.

Not just any challenge- it's an UBER-challenge! :D

A couple songs like Bring 'em Out, maybe in the club.

"In Da Club" is one of the few 50 songs I like. I find that he's a collosal waste of talent.

Though who do you like overall?
RomeW
30-09-2005, 07:00
*Service Announcement*

The map is updated. What I have decided to do with Sheepfruit Island is divide the remaining territory in half between TLS and Sharina. Sharina, TLS, please weigh in on this division.

I am also holding off on my next phase of expansion because I want to see if there are any newcomers first.

Thank you.
Sharina
30-09-2005, 13:38
Hmm...

I made a map of what I'd like to be done.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8340/manium27zw.png

The yellow would be my expansion, and the cyan would be TLS expansion. This should be occurring over three days, I believe.

Should this be unacceptable to final mod ruling, then I may have to expand into either Condensa or Pescium to make up for the land area denied to me by TLS (without war).
The Lightning Star
30-09-2005, 21:43
Personally, I'd just like to consolodate my control of the unclaimed coastline. Sharina can have everything else.

I just claimed the land so Sharina didn't control the whole island.
RomeW
01-10-2005, 06:06
*Service Announcement*

The map is updated. A few notes:

Brutix: I have decided that since that large expanse of unclaimed land you have encircled shall be yours anyway, to save me the work. You will, however, need three RL weeks before that land can be considered "fully integrated".
Sheepfruit Island: I have decided that the rest of the coast will go to The Lightning Star and the rest of the island's unclaimed interior will go to Sharina.
Borman Empire
02-10-2005, 15:47
map (http://usera.imagecave.com/obsterray/Manium.PNG) with today's expansions and my expansion 'slots' for a week.
Sharina
03-10-2005, 21:50
Hiyas guys, I thought I'd give you guys a heads up on what happened today on my big day. I just got home from the hospital 45 minutes ago, so I thought I'd drop you guys a line before I head off to my first intensive therapy session.



When I first went in this morning, I was a nervous wreck and I couldn't sleep well last night. I had no idea what to expect and what would happen. I had a meeting with Dr. Merchant, my implant doctor, and we discussed a general plan for the next few weeks. After that, I went to see the audiologist for the actual implant activation process.

I sat there, waiting to hear something. I thought I'd have a sensation like a pinch, a prick, or a bang. It didn't come, so I got worried. Suddenly, I got this odd sensation all over my right ear- feels like a powerful tickle / buzz that was regular like an heartbeat. I told the audiologist about that sensation, and she told me that was a good sign. Oh my god, I didn't realize *that* was me hearing stuff for the very first time until like 5 minutes later, when a light went off in my head, "Oh, that!".

Boy, I felt dumb at that time. Haha. Afterwards, the audiologist did some tweaking and testing to create a first computer program that allows the microphone to pick up different sounds and transmit them into my implant device under my skin (the one that the surgery was all about). The audiologist told me that I have to come back in next week for further tweakings.

After I finished the whole hospital thing, and I went outside, I was overwhelmed with a near constant tickling / buzzing sensation. I had to turn down the volume on my implant so that it would become more manageable. I went to have a late lunch at a seafood restaurant called "No Name" right on the wharf in Boston. I jumped every time I set down a dish, the glass of water, my fork and knife, and even when I chewed my lunch. I also got jittery when I moved the ketchup bottle or when other people slid their chairs backwards. That was only the beginning- me being startled by the very things I do everyday.

Its going to be a bit before I can hear music. I can hear sounds now, but right now they're all the same to me. I can't really tell the difference between a knock on the table from a person's voice talking. I probably will be able to hear music within a couple of weeks when I learn how to distinguish between sounds, tone, and high / low pitches.
Borman Empire
03-10-2005, 22:58
Wow, sweet. Congradulations.

Did you run around in circles screaming "I can hear!" And throw the horns...or is that just what I would do?

Seems pretty exciting and interesting. I wish you the best of luck.

When you can, you should watch some cool action movies and experience all those kickass sounds.
Brutix
03-10-2005, 23:33
Action movies? pish posh. Those are just GENERICE sounds. Watch sci-fi, get those eerie sounds, they are awesome!!! Anyways... great to hear that your hearing *attempted pun*, Im glad its working for you. Hope for the best... still.
RomeW
07-10-2005, 01:02
Congratulations Sharina! That is very good news. Just take it one step at a time and I'm sure it will turn out great. :)
RomeW
09-10-2005, 06:26
A brand new map has been issued.

Borman Empire- I did the same with your land that I did with Brutix's: filled in the remaining land because you had it surrounded. It just won't be completely incorporated until the end of the month (RL time).
Sharina
09-10-2005, 08:16
I'd like to expand into the remainder of Sheepfruit Island, namely the former colony of Executors.

Then afterwards, I'd like to claim spot 1 in Pescium as I need the extra land to make up for what TLS "stole" from me in Sheepfruit Island. I doubt TLS will RP a war RP between me and him for Sheepfruit Island so....
The Lightning Star
09-10-2005, 15:29
I'd like to expand into the remainder of Sheepfruit Island, namely the former colony of Executors.

Then afterwards, I'd like to claim spot 1 in Pescium as I need the extra land to make up for what TLS "stole" from me in Sheepfruit Island. I doubt TLS will RP a war RP between me and him for Sheepfruit Island so....

I'm not interested in starting a war. I'm gonna focus on making my colonies t3h uber str0ngz0rz first.
RomeW
10-10-2005, 04:12
Sharina: Granted. You'll get the Pescium land either later this week or next week, though.

I'm not interested in starting a war. I'm gonna focus on making my colonies t3h uber str0ngz0rz first.

Although, you do have that disputed land with Generic Empire...
The Lightning Star
10-10-2005, 04:20
Sharina: Granted. You'll get the Pescium land either later this week or next week, though.



Although, you do have that disputed land with Generic Empire...

Ever hear of the DMZ between the Koreas? Sure, there was that Korean War thing half a century ago(it was 55 years ago, to be precise), but for the past 5 decades its just been a bunch of mines and automated defence turrets and trenches. I think I'll keep it like that for now, and I doubt GE wants to start a war...
RomeW
10-10-2005, 04:42
Ever hear of the DMZ between the Koreas? Sure, there was that Korean War thing half a century ago(it was 55 years ago, to be precise), but for the past 5 decades its just been a bunch of mines and automated defence turrets and trenches. I think I'll keep it like that for now, and I doubt GE wants to start a war...

I see. Though, knowing that you two went to war once, I wouldn't put it past either of you to go to war again.
RomeW
10-10-2005, 06:06
The Journey To The Bizzare: Into Eggerland (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9776078#post9776078)
Sharina
10-10-2005, 06:45
The Journey To The Bizzare: Into Eggerland (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9776078#post9776078)

Nice!

I remember the Lolo games from waaay back in the late 80's on old school Nintendo. Good memories of Nintendo before all this graphic-must-be-uber crap with current video games. Classics that can't be beat = Zelda, Mario, Dragon Warrior, original Final Fantasys, Crystalis, etc.

I'd like to particpate, but I'm not sure how Sharina can get involved IC'ly.
The Lightning Star
10-10-2005, 12:58
I see. Though, knowing that you two went to war once, I wouldn't put it past either of you to go to war again.

That's ancient history, Rome. I mean, how could I be angry at him for "allying" with me in a war, then turning on me(with The Parthians and Borman), taking all my EII claims(the old EII was a bit more fuzzy when it came to legislation on NS earth and EII interacting), glassing my nation, and then plunging it into a bloody civil war where the Imperialists took power?
Borman Empire
11-10-2005, 03:00
That's ancient history, Rome. I mean, how could I be angry at him for "allying" with me in a war, then turning on me(with The Parthians and Borman), taking all my EII claims(the old EII was a bit more fuzzy when it came to legislation on NS earth and EII interacting), glassing my nation, and then plunging it into a bloody civil war where the Imperialists took power?

That's what I said! But you tried to attack me in a civil war!
The Lightning Star
11-10-2005, 12:39
That's what I said! But you tried to attack me in a civil war!

Pffffffffffffffffffft...
RomeW
11-10-2005, 20:58
Sharina: How I'm probably going to do that thread is eventually open it up so that the kingdom can be rebuilt. I won't give anything else away though.

How far have you gone? I've beaten both Lolo 2 and 3.

The Lightning Star: I don't know much of the details surrounding the war, but I can tell you if Borman Empire attacked during a civil war, I'd say it was a good move from a tactical perspective; because a civil war means disunity which means a nation that isn't as strong as it could be and thus ripe for attack. As far as Generic Empire is concerned, I'm just saying I'm not surprised if war does break out because that land is still disputed.
Sharina
11-10-2005, 21:18
Sharina: How I'm probably going to do that thread is eventually open it up so that the kingdom can be rebuilt. I won't give anything else away though.

How far have you gone? I've beaten both Lolo 2 and 3.

I have beaten Lolo 1, but after quite a bit of frustration. I couldn't figure out the eggs and crossing the streams (I remember egging enemies or something to create a bridge- has been so long I can't exactly remember). What a dumbass I am. :p

Anyways, you could TG me details on how Sharina can join the RP IC'ly, as I want to participate in these kinds of RP's. I don't want to be limited to the boring usual "NS war! OMG! I send zillions of crap aganist you! I win!" RP crap.
RomeW
11-10-2005, 22:00
I have beaten Lolo 1, but after quite a bit of frustration. I couldn't figure out the eggs and crossing the streams (I remember egging enemies or something to create a bridge- has been so long I can't exactly remember). What a dumbass I am. :p

Anyways, you could TG me details on how Sharina can join the RP IC'ly, as I want to participate in these kinds of RP's. I don't want to be limited to the boring usual "NS war! OMG! I send zillions of crap aganist you! I win!" RP crap.

I will do that.

Yeah, those games were tough- but I loved them. The storylines were a little cliched (the princess is kidnapped and you have to save her) but at least it wasn't just your average side-scroller. There was a lot more thinking involved and I liked that. My favourite was Lolo 3 for the variety (that, and you could actually play as Lala!). The egg thing was tricky though- you could never tell if the stream would allow it to float or if it would just sink.
Brutix
11-10-2005, 22:31
Im thinking i might be interested in joining this rp, even though i have no clue what lolo is, maybe im too young? Anyways Ill tg you romeW.
The Lightning Star
11-10-2005, 22:39
The Lightning Star: I don't know much of the details surrounding the war, but I can tell you if Borman Empire attacked during a civil war, I'd say it was a good move from a tactical perspective; because a civil war means disunity which means a nation that isn't as strong as it could be and thus ripe for attack. As far as Generic Empire is concerned, I'm just saying I'm not surprised if war does break out because that land is still disputed.

No. He attacked me when I was at war with another nation in Botswana, and he turned on me. I had welcomed his troops into my nation as saviors of the Republic, as did I welcome GE and the Parthians. The war was going perfect until they all turned on me. My armies were all fighting in Botswana, and then Borman tried to capture Maputo. I managed to keep his troops at bay, but then GE sent an army and conquered my African territory(which was Mozambique). To make matters worse, my forces in Botswana were cut off, and fought to the bitter end(which meant a few hundred thousand of my soldiers were slaughtered). To finish it off, Parthians sent his forces, they stormed the border, commited Genocide, and wiped my nation off the map.
RomeW
12-10-2005, 00:37
Brutix: How old are you? I'm 23. The best-known Lolo games were for the NES, with the last one (I believe) coming out in 1994. They do have Windows versions.

More: www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolo

The Lightning Star: Wow. You need better allies :p
The Lightning Star
12-10-2005, 00:58
The Lightning Star: Wow. You need better allies :p

But thats what I've got you for, right?

...


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight?
RomeW
12-10-2005, 01:09
But thats what I've got you for, right?

...


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight?

Hey look! Over there! *snatches lunch* :D
Borman Empire
15-10-2005, 03:38
No. He attacked me when I was at war with another nation in Botswana, and he turned on me. I had welcomed his troops into my nation as saviors of the Republic, as did I welcome GE and the Parthians. The war was going perfect until they all turned on me. My armies were all fighting in Botswana, and then Borman tried to capture Maputo. I managed to keep his troops at bay, but then GE sent an army and conquered my African territory(which was Mozambique). To make matters worse, my forces in Botswana were cut off, and fought to the bitter end(which meant a few hundred thousand of my soldiers were slaughtered). To finish it off, Parthians sent his forces, they stormed the border, commited Genocide, and wiped my nation off the map.

Bitch! (Joking)

Again, I inisist I had no idea of the betrayal untill after it had already started happening. You had an emperor and all, were an empire, and had a slave rebellion. Being of like practice and government I decided I would help you put it down, and made an ally. I was small and could only deploy so many soldiers, and so asked for help from GE and Parthians. Then I found out of their plans to backstab you and seize your territory, there was no time to argue against it as it had already started. Parthians armies were seizing territory in Pakistan and the Generic army in Mozambique opened fire. Not wanting to be caught with my dick in my hands so to speak and no gains, my few men moved on Maputo. Wirraway, with another story behind our reaction changed sides to join us as well and began taking other territory. I ended up with Maputo and surrounding lands, GE the rest of Mozambique, and Parthians Pakistan, I can't exactly remember what Wirraway got.

I felt very guilty for this and was the only member of this coalition that remained in TLS politics after the betrayal. I was involved in almost all reconstruction and the following civil war, trying to recreat TLS to how it was before.

TLS was rebuilt with help from several nations, mainly Borman. TLS began applying to join alliances Borman and the rest of the coalition was part of. The coalition welcomed as a new ally, like what the Romans did to their allies.

GE had a civil war and Wirraway and Borman split Mozambique between themselves rather than let it fall into the hands of Barbarians. Parthians gave back some of the land it had copnquered from TLS.

Nations grew apart and alliances died, and with them TLS's promise that he would never harm us and protect us as allies.

And then I had a civil war, and he revealed his true colors. He prepared for and talked of an invasion of Borman, but when Wirraway, GE, Parthians, RB and others vouched for Borman's defense he turned from his path. Since then our nations havnt been on good terms.

Borman wonders to this day why they are prosecuted the most for the betrayal, yet had no part in planning it, went along withit the least willingly and most regrettably, worked the hardest to rebuild TLS, and took a very active role in making sure TLS didn't degrade into a third world nation permanantly. And we've asked this, but answered with threats.

(I guess its IC. I dunno)
Sharina
15-10-2005, 04:56
Its that time of the year... err... week again. ;)

Assuming that the Executors colony has been annexed by now (been a week since I made my expansion "claims") and that I have been granted Position 1 in Pescium (and I'm assuming I have the whole island in the big lake)...

I would like to expand along the lake's coast (starting east of Location 1) and expand clockwise to the west, then north towards Spot 29, hugging the west bank of the river leading to the lake.
RomeW
15-10-2005, 07:28
The maps are updated, though again if I have made any mistakes let me know (I have finished taking The Water Cooler's former colony and claimed Pescium Spot 5. Sharina, I shall put in your expansions tommorow). I have also filled in Praetonia's land but it will be the same thing as Brutix's- it will need three RL weeks before it is considered completely integrated.
Praetonia
15-10-2005, 10:56
Thanks, although before the centre fills in, can I keep expanding to reach these eventual borders that Brutix and I agreed: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/Praetonia/DivisionBonstock.png note that this is based on an old map, and only the Praeto-Brutix borders are legally accurate anymore.
The Lightning Star
15-10-2005, 12:42
Bitch! (Joking)

Again, I inisist I had no idea of the betrayal untill after it had already started happening. You had an emperor and all, were an empire, and had a slave rebellion. Being of like practice and government I decided I would help you put it down, and made an ally. I was small and could only deploy so many soldiers, and so asked for help from GE and Parthians. Then I found out of their plans to backstab you and seize your territory, there was no time to argue against it as it had already started. Parthians armies were seizing territory in Pakistan and the Generic army in Mozambique opened fire. Not wanting to be caught with my dick in my hands so to speak and no gains, my few men moved on Maputo. Wirraway, with another story behind our reaction changed sides to join us as well and began taking other territory. I ended up with Maputo and surrounding lands, GE the rest of Mozambique, and Parthians Pakistan, I can't exactly remember what Wirraway got.

I felt very guilty for this and was the only member of this coalition that remained in TLS politics after the betrayal. I was involved in almost all reconstruction and the following civil war, trying to recreat TLS to how it was before.

TLS was rebuilt with help from several nations, mainly Borman. TLS began applying to join alliances Borman and the rest of the coalition was part of. The coalition welcomed as a new ally, like what the Romans did to their allies.

GE had a civil war and Wirraway and Borman split Mozambique between themselves rather than let it fall into the hands of Barbarians. Parthians gave back some of the land it had copnquered from TLS.

Nations grew apart and alliances died, and with them TLS's promise that he would never harm us and protect us as allies.

And then I had a civil war, and he revealed his true colors. He prepared for and talked of an invasion of Borman, but when Wirraway, GE, Parthians, RB and others vouched for Borman's defense he turned from his path. Since then our nations havnt been on good terms.

Borman wonders to this day why they are prosecuted the most for the betrayal, yet had no part in planning it, went along withit the least willingly and most regrettably, worked the hardest to rebuild TLS, and took a very active role in making sure TLS didn't degrade into a third world nation permanantly. And we've asked this, but answered with threats.

(I guess its IC. I dunno)

You're kinda like this, Borman; One of those people who just got caught up in the National Socialist movement, got put in charge of a concentration camp suddenly, then after the war finished tried to repent, but seeing how humans are weak they just looked at you as the enemy (My people are quite proud, y'know).

(I don't have anything against you in RL though, man.)
Borman Empire
16-10-2005, 03:20
You're kinda like this, Borman; One of those people who just got caught up in the National Socialist movement, got put in charge of a concentration camp suddenly, then after the war finished tried to repent, but seeing how humans are weak they just looked at you as the enemy (My people are quite proud, y'know).

(I don't have anything against you in RL though, man.)

HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT ME!? STALKER!!!

I mean...
It's more like a nation, say Russia was having a revolution and I meant to put it down and went in to do so. Then called in allies to help me who actually turned on Russia and conquered part of it. Then I got some and felt quite bad about all that had happened and so took the primary role in rebuilding what was left of Russia. Then Russia allied to us and promised they were over what happened and that they would never hurt us. And we were hesitant to trust them after they had tried to attack us before, but eventually we did. And the Russia got some land back to show our frienship and all. And then tried to attack us. And then that's where the camps were built.
RomeW
16-10-2005, 05:01
The maps are updated. I claimed some new land on Pescium for myself also.

BE, TLS, everything okay?
Sharina
16-10-2005, 05:18
RomeW, thanks for the update.

However, I noticed my color has changed from steel blue to green? I also noticed that Borman, TLS, and I have very similiar green colors that may be difficult to discern. :confused:
RomeW
16-10-2005, 05:42
RomeW, thanks for the update.

However, I noticed my color has changed from steel blue to green? I also noticed that Borman, TLS, and I have very similiar green colors that may be difficult to discern. :confused:

You were never in blue. You always had green. Though I can give you a different colour if you'd like.
Sharina
16-10-2005, 06:07
You were never in blue. You always had green. Though I can give you a different colour if you'd like.

Weird- on my screen for the past three months I've been here in Manium, my color was always displayed as blue-grey or steel blue until today when it changed to lime green?
RomeW
16-10-2005, 06:15
Weird- on my screen for the past three months I've been here in Manium, my color was always displayed as blue-grey or steel blue until today when it changed to lime green?
You were a darker shade of green originally if that explains anything. However, if you want, I can give you a different colour.
Sharina
16-10-2005, 06:28
You were a darker shade of green originally if that explains anything. However, if you want, I can give you a different colour.

I guess I could use a different color so that people won't get confused between me, TLS, and Borman green colors. :)
RomeW
16-10-2005, 06:46
I guess I could use a different color so that people won't get confused between me, TLS, and Borman green colors. :)

What colour would you like? I can accomodate requests.
Sharina
16-10-2005, 06:56
What colour would you like? I can accomodate requests.

Do you have any suggestions? I could go for steel colors- show my nation's industrial might. ;)

BTW, you got TG.
RomeW
16-10-2005, 07:02
Do you have any suggestions? I could go for steel colors- show my nation's industrial might. ;)

BTW, you got TG.

Whatever your heart desires my friend.
Sharina
16-10-2005, 08:57
Whatever your heart desires my friend.

Heart of Blood and Steel. ;) That actually reminds me of a book I read called "Blood and Iron".
Borman Empire
17-10-2005, 00:29
The maps are updated. I claimed some new land on Pescium for myself also.

BE, TLS, everything okay?

Yeah.

And really? On all four of the SN's I've viewed the map on the colors have been like this:
Borman Empire-Kinda Pukish Yellow/Green
Sharina- Dark Bluish/Green, much more green
TLS- green

Now that I look at it, I guess your right about them all being Green. But I can easily discern.

EDIT: Are any of you paying attention to NS stuff outside of Manium? Cause its literally falling apart.
Sharina
17-10-2005, 01:56
Yeah.

And really? On all four of the SN's I've viewed the map on the colors have been like this:
Borman Empire-Kinda Pukish Yellow/Green
Sharina- Dark Bluish/Green, much more green
TLS- green

Now that I look at it, I guess your right about them all being Green. But I can easily discern.

EDIT: Are any of you paying attention to NS stuff outside of Manium? Cause its literally falling apart.

Ahh- its a fact that some people percieve color differently than others. :)
Safehaven2
17-10-2005, 02:09
Wow, Brutix, guess I get a new...big neighbor. My part of the world is getting alot more crowded.
Brutix
17-10-2005, 03:28
Gahh damn school work im behind in post reading, have to do that tomorrow or something. Night!
RomeW
17-10-2005, 04:51
RIP Shoobans, Kyleralia, and Oblivions; DEAT unjustly.
RIP Hogsweat, March '03 to October '05. Unjustly Deleted.

RIP Skinny87, Praetonia, Sanctaphrax, and Sarzonia--called it quits
Copy and paste this into your sig if you would like to honor these proud souls^

:eek:

What in the world is going on? Also, does this mean that Praetonia and Sarzonia no longer want to take part in Manium?
Sharina
17-10-2005, 05:04
wtf?

Sarzonia and Praetonia quit NS?
RomeW
17-10-2005, 05:35
Side note: this is the history of my main nation to the present. In case anyone was wondering:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=449668

Sharina: So I've heard. What bugs me most is, if they did indeed quit, they didn't tell me. So now I don't know what to do with their colonies.
Sharina
17-10-2005, 09:35
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=449881

Its official. Praetonia is leaving NS for the time being and has no interest in participation except maybe off-site or such. He has said he is putting his nation on "freeze".

In addition, Sarzonia has clearly stated that he will leave should Praetonia leave- which is likely. Thus, both Sarzonia and Praetonia are out of NS. This has me upset as this means that we have lost a couple of excellent RP'ers, in addition to Skinny87, Sanctraprax and Hogsweat. Who's the next good quality RP'er to leave NS because of this?

Consquently, as they said they are leaving, this essentially means their colonies on Manium will probably implode like their mainland NS nations. This should free up quite a bit of land for new players.
Borman Empire
17-10-2005, 18:40
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=449881

Its official. Praetonia is leaving NS for the time being and has no interest in participation except maybe off-site or such. He has said he is putting his nation on "freeze".

In addition, Sarzonia has clearly stated that he will leave should Praetonia leave- which is likely. Thus, both Sarzonia and Praetonia are out of NS. This has me upset as this means that we have lost a couple of excellent RP'ers, in addition to Skinny87, Sanctraprax and Hogsweat. Who's the next good quality RP'er to leave NS because of this?

Consquently, as they said they are leaving, this essentially means their colonies on Manium will probably implode like their mainland NS nations. This should free up quite a bit of land for new players.

Generic Empire is most likely leaving. I was going to, but I don't think so anymore. Jarridia may.

And yeah, their colonie's'll probably go KaBoom!

Also, is they any way I could get GE's by treaty? Cause we know eachother IRL and are merged IC, so I'm sure he'd let me.
Praetonia
17-10-2005, 20:15
As my last post on this for now - can you freeze my land. I may well be coming back in a week or two. In the meantime, I give my land to Brutix to hold in trust, so space isnt wasted. If I do not come back, he may keep it. If I do decide to return, I will repossess it. Neither my colony or my mainland has 'imploded' for RP purposes.
Sarzonia
17-10-2005, 20:36
My point is the same as Praetonia's, except I'd like to point out that Branwyn is now an indpendent country. It's also being frozen for the time being.
RomeW
18-10-2005, 20:06
Praetonia: The land can be placed under Brutix's protection, no problem. I'll just need Brutix to confirm this.

Sarzonia: Noted. If you want, you are allowed to give your land to someone else so they can watch over it (like Praetonia is doing with Brutix). If not, I will TG you after a month (should you be inactive) about whether or not you want to continue on Manium, because, if not, I would like to open the land up for newcomers, which I think is only fair.

I'd also like to say that I hope you two do eventually come back, but if not, I at least hoped you enjoyed your stay.

Borman Empire: If you want to arrange such a treaty, sure. I'll just need a post and Generic Empire's confirmation.
Praetonia
18-10-2005, 20:11
Thanks. You might want to hold it for just a bit though, because if Hogsweat decides to come back (check the thread on his population) then I probably wont be leaving.
RomeW
18-10-2005, 20:16
Whatever you decide. I do hope you stay, though.
Borman Empire
18-10-2005, 20:48
Borman Empire: If you want to arrange such a treaty, sure. I'll just need a post and Generic Empire's confirmation.

Excellent.
Brutix
18-10-2005, 22:45
Praetonia and RomeW: Ill accept the repsonsibility of protecting your land (other places too? or is that already taken care of?) only if I get to drive a moped through all the houses :-P *JOKE* Yeah, itd help to, if Brutix was put as temporary Commadant of Praetonian Manium by treaty, so one can't just say your inactive blah blah... alright? ALRIGHT! *insert crickets*
RomeW
18-10-2005, 23:28
Okay then. You may need a big mop though :P
Brutix
19-10-2005, 01:13
a mop?
The Lightning Star
19-10-2005, 01:21
Hey Borman;

If you take GE's land, could I get the disputed zone?
RomeW
19-10-2005, 01:30
Oh, a moped...*smacks head*

Still, you just might need a mop...
Brutix
19-10-2005, 01:47
har har :D
RomeW
19-10-2005, 01:54
Because, you never know...
Borman Empire
19-10-2005, 03:07
Hey Borman;

If you take GE's land, could I get the disputed zone?

Probably not, if you remeber you made my government hate you.

EDIT: Also, GE isn't quitting.
Sharina
19-10-2005, 04:01
RomeW, I'm curious....

I noticed I'm the only other one RP'ing in the Eggerland RP. I'm gonna RP some more tomorrow, but I was wondering if anyone else is going to jump in, or if it will just be the two of us? I don't mind either way as I'm game for any good RP, even if its just between me and one other player. :)
The Lightning Star
19-10-2005, 21:26
Probably not, if you remeber you made my government hate you.

EDIT: Also, GE isn't quitting.

Darn :p
Borman Empire
21-10-2005, 23:23
Dudes...my newest proboard membership...is for school. The teacher made it. Teachers know of proboards? And some chicks are mods...I'll need to fix that!

And Im planning on doing a big Manium RP soon.
RomeW
22-10-2005, 05:35
Map updated.
RomeW
23-10-2005, 06:45
La carte est mise à jour

("The map is updated" in French, according to Freetranslation.com)
Sharina
23-10-2005, 07:15
RomeW, I'm pissed.

I typed up a nice and long post for the Eggerland RP, then just as I was about to do the "Control + C" command to copy the whole RP text I typed out (for the backup copy+paste), my AOL connection went kaput. Just 2 seconds before I could save my entire RP post. :mad:

This aside, I would like to continue my expansion north along the side of the lake towards spot 29, and also claim the land between spot 29 and the river connecting the lake to the ocean.
RomeW
23-10-2005, 07:27
RomeW, I'm pissed.

I typed up a nice and long post for the Eggerland RP, then just as I was about to do the "Control + C" command to copy the whole RP text I typed out (for the backup copy+paste), my AOL connection went kaput. Just 2 seconds before I could save my entire RP post. :mad:

This aside, I would like to continue my expansion north along the side of the lake towards spot 29, and also claim the land between spot 29 and the river connecting the lake to the ocean.

*hug*

Did you save the window? Because if the connection goes the window should still be available- you just can't post.

In any case, you claim is noted (and will be uploaded tommorow since that's when your inital seven-day claim ends).
Brutix
24-10-2005, 01:05
Hey Rome, you need to take a lighten tool to the whole of the map, if you havent noticed, every update it gets darker and harder to read :-/
Borman Empire
24-10-2005, 02:26
Hey Rome, you need to take a lighten tool to the whole of the map, if you havent noticed, every update it gets darker and harder to read :-/
Yeah, I was noticing that too.
RomeW
24-10-2005, 04:07
There. I hope the map is better.
Borman Empire
24-10-2005, 21:39
Looks good, but I want to point out the massive color changes in Sharina and Brutix. Maybe they'll return to their previous color as the map darkens.
Brutix
24-10-2005, 22:12
Make Hamptonshire good looking ski place. :D
RomeW
25-10-2005, 04:22
Yeah, I noticed Hamptonshire became white...but hey, it works. I also changed the colour of New Roska so that you can differentiate between New Roska and Borman's colony.
Hamptonshire
25-10-2005, 04:25
Talk about whitewashing a society...
RomeW
25-10-2005, 05:04
Talk about whitewashing a society...

:D

Manium- service with a smile :)
Praetonia
25-10-2005, 11:06
So long as I maintain my deep, royal purple.

*glares at everyone*
RomeW
25-10-2005, 19:56
So long as I maintain my deep, royal purple.

*glares at everyone*

You keep believing that, you keep believing that. :D
Borman Empire
26-10-2005, 01:41
So long as I maintain my deep, royal purple.

*glares at everyone*

Purple...not after I shit on it!
RomeW
26-10-2005, 01:51
I have updated the map. (fixed)

Oh, I have a new RP for anyone interested. It's not Manium-based but it deals with my main nation. It's supposed to be done press-conference style, but you can also act as special interest groups.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9836490#post9836490
RomeW
27-10-2005, 06:36
Map updated.
RomeW
30-10-2005, 09:05
*bump*

Just finished (for anyone interested):

The Complete Roman Factbook (http://www.geocities.com/vicendum/vicendumspotlightrome.html)
Sharina
30-10-2005, 20:00
Its that time again. ;)

I would like to continue my expansion towards spot 29, then eastwards, flush up aganist the river.
The Lightning Star
30-10-2005, 20:56
Y'know, I'd love to colonize the other continents, but something about them just looks...fake. I mean, I know all the maps look fake, but the Manium map looks like alot more work was put into it.

It's not that hard even, really. Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/Elysium.png) is a map I made in around 50 minutes. I call it Elysium(although it is not actually Elysium, just a continent named after it), and in that 50 minutes I designed mountains, Islands, Rivers, etc. About 10 minutes of that time was looking up names, and it is larger than the Pescium or Cordensa maps, so you could prolly make a higher-quality map of those two continents in around 30 minutes (if you weren't naming the thingers, that is).
Borman Empire
30-10-2005, 23:18
So, on Tuesday I can start expanding?
RomeW
31-10-2005, 05:32
The Lightning Star: If you want, we can use that map too. The more land the merrier.

The truth about the Manium map is that the current one we use isn't my creation, it's Praetonia's, and it was a lot better than what I had (and I'm sure those who saw the old map would agree). I'm not exactly a wizard when it comes to these things, and, as such, I always invite people to improve on my maps (so if you want to improve on them feel free to do so).

However, I have spent some time to improve the maps of Cordensa and Pescium (darken the land, give the mountains some sense of elevation); but if you want to improve the maps yourself, by all means you are free to do so.

Sharina: Granted.
Sharina
31-10-2005, 05:39
The Lightning Star: If you want, we can use that map too. The more land the merrier.

The truth about the Manium map is that the current one we use isn't my creation, it's Praetonia's, and it was a lot better than what I had (and I'm sure those who saw the old map would agree). I'm not exactly a wizard when it comes to these things, and, as such, I always invite people to improve on my maps (so if you want to improve on them feel free to do so).

However, I have spent some time to improve the maps of Cordensa and Pescium (darken the land, give the mountains some sense of elevation); but if you want to improve the maps yourself, by all means you are free to do so.

Sharina: Granted.

Thanks.

I actually support using that map that TLS (or was it Borman Empire) created as a 4th landmass for Manium. If this keeps up, we can make Manium into a planet! ;)

By the way, not to be a nag or anything, but fill in the 6 squares (from last week) then add the next 7 squares for this week. These blank squares stir me :p
RomeW
31-10-2005, 06:58
It should be better now...thought I uploaded them...stupid confusion...
Sharina
31-10-2005, 07:36
I like the new Pescium map- looks good with the darkened colors and improved landmarks (the mountains and such). :)
Borman Empire
31-10-2005, 13:32
Thanks.

I actually support using that map that TLS (or was it Borman Empire) created as a 4th landmass for Manium. If this keeps up, we can make Manium into a planet! ;)

By the way, not to be a nag or anything, but fill in the 6 squares (from last week) then add the next 7 squares for this week. These blank squares stir me :p

*Looks around*

It was, uh...mine. I made it. NOT LIGHTNING STAR! That's a lie!:p
Borman Empire
31-10-2005, 13:34
Yeah, Pescium looks alot better.
The Lightning Star
31-10-2005, 14:30
*Looks around*

It was, uh...mine. I made it. NOT LIGHTNING STAR! That's a lie!:p

*pulls out Katana*

Uoryaa~~!

*slices off BE's head*

Anyhoo, you guys can certainly use the map I made. In fact, I'll take care of it m'self, seeing how it'll be easier to take care of if you have to look after less maps.

In the spirit of opening-ness, I hereby claim land on Elysium! (Does happy jig of happy!) Thread will be coming later, but here are two maps I made.

Elysium Claims Map (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/Elysium.png)
This is the claims map(with my claim already there). I added a mountain range, and you'll see why in my next map. When you list this on the first thread, you don't have to call it the Elysium Claims Map, just Elysium.

Elysium Plant-life or Geography map (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/Elysium-Plantlife.png)
This map shows the geography/plant life of Elysium. Purple means Tundra, Dark Green means forest, yellow means desert, light green means plains, and green means jungle.
Rome West
01-11-2005, 07:03
Regarding Pescium: thank you. I decided a few extra minutes to clean it up wouldn't hurt.

The Lightning Star: I block your attempt! Kidding. In light of the creation of Elysium, I'm seriously considering a composite map with all these continents (though it wouldn't be *as* detailed considering it would be a massive file). I envisioned one before, but with the new continent we're on our way to *really* making a new planet here...

EDIT- I shall add your Elysium map to the first page. However, for some weird reason, the geography map isn't loading.
Praetonia
01-11-2005, 11:38
Can I claim some land on the new continent of the island of Herakles please?

And on this planet thing... I hope Manium etc isnt going to turn into an earth thread. I hate those things. Can we just keep this part of NS?
The Lightning Star
01-11-2005, 13:16
Regarding Pescium: thank you. I decided a few extra minutes to clean it up wouldn't hurt.

The Lightning Star: I block your attempt! Kidding. In light of the creation of Elysium, I'm seriously considering a composite map with all these continents (though it wouldn't be *as* detailed considering it would be a massive file). I envisioned one before, but with the new continent we're on our way to *really* making a new planet here...

EDIT- I shall add your Elysium map to the first page. However, for some weird reason, the geography map isn't loading.

The Geography map isn't loading for ye? It loads for me. How odd indeed...

But thank ye for yer helpification.

And Praetonia, I be right on it.

But would that be seven days of claims or just one?
The Lightning Star
01-11-2005, 13:34
Map up-didly-dated.
RomeW
01-11-2005, 21:10
Can I claim some land on the new continent of the island of Herakles please?

<snip>I hope Manium etc isnt going to turn into an earth thread. I hate those things.</snip>

It won't. Rest assured I have NO intention of making Manium "exclusive".
Borman Empire
01-11-2005, 22:28
Yeah, I don't quite want an earth either.

And I'd like to expand into Cordensa, As Shown here (http://usera.imagecave.com/obsterray/Cordensa.PNG)
RomeW
01-11-2005, 23:05
Yeah, I don't quite want an earth either.

And I'd like to expand into Cordensa, As Shown here (http://usera.imagecave.com/obsterray/Cordensa.PNG)

You'll have to arch northwards after your initial landing. You can't expand into another claim spot.
Borman Empire
01-11-2005, 23:21
You'll have to arch northwards after your initial landing. You can't expand into another claim spot.
WHAT? Why not? Other people did!
RomeW
02-11-2005, 01:08
WHAT? Why not? Other people did!

They did?

Lemme check that.

EDIT- They didn't. If you notice the map (and count upwards from 1), you'll see that no spots are missing: Elephantum took 1, Evir Brunck Saulsbury took 17, Azazia took 19 and you took 39. The rest of the numbers- besides 37 and 38, which are the spots in question here- are still present, meaning that nobody has gone through the spots. You can go around the spots, however.
Borman Empire
02-11-2005, 03:42
You evil whore...you're right.

Why can't I annex the spots? It'll make me feel :D
RomeW
02-11-2005, 07:23
You evil whore...you're right.

Why can't I annex the spots? It'll make me feel :D

Yeah, but it'll make newcomers feel :(. I have that rule in place so that people who want land can actually get it.

However, I will say that for a while I've been considering getting rid of some of those spots anyway, simply because there's too many places and not enough willing takers; but I'm not going to change the rule just for you.

Therefore, I ask everyone for input- should I get rid of the inland spots on Cordensa (leaving just the coastal ones) or not?
Sharina
02-11-2005, 15:07
Yeah, but it'll make newcomers feel :(. I have that rule in place so that people who want land can actually get it.

However, I will say that for a while I've been considering getting rid of some of those spots anyway, simply because there's too many places and not enough willing takers; but I'm not going to change the rule just for you.

Therefore, I ask everyone for input- should I get rid of the inland spots on Cordensa (leaving just the coastal ones) or not?

I actually support the removal of inland spots on Cordensa because to put it simply, you *need* coastline to even build a colony, after all. You can't claim land in the middle of a continent and expect it to be a colony. You'd need to connect to the coastline and transport all colony material via rail or road.
The Lightning Star
02-11-2005, 22:16
Yeah, but it'll make newcomers feel :(. I have that rule in place so that people who want land can actually get it.

However, I will say that for a while I've been considering getting rid of some of those spots anyway, simply because there's too many places and not enough willing takers; but I'm not going to change the rule just for you.

Therefore, I ask everyone for input- should I get rid of the inland spots on Cordensa (leaving just the coastal ones) or not?

But if the Newcomers feel :(, then they can go to the brand new fricken huge continent. Which, by the way, can be put on the main post.
Borman Empire
02-11-2005, 22:23
But if the Newcomers feel :(, then they can go to the brand new fricken huge continent. Which, by the way, can be put on the main post.

And if the newcomers feel :(, I can nuke them.

I mean...you should change it just for me. After all, I am Borman.

But yeah, it has my vote to get rid of it.
Praetonia
02-11-2005, 22:36
And Praetonia, I be right on it.

But would that be seven days of claims or just one?
7 days would be nice. Thanks =).
The Lightning Star
02-11-2005, 22:49
7 days would be nice. Thanks =).

If you check the map, you see yer claims (they're into day 2 already, seeing how I figured you'd go with 7)
RomeW
02-11-2005, 23:57
The Lightning Star: Elysium has been added. My apologies for that.

Borman Empire: LOL, you're so cordial. However, depending on the type of newcomer you get, you may get a nuke yourself. :P

So we have two votes to get rid of the inland spots. Keep them coming.
Binthor
03-11-2005, 00:25
Hey, Rome, is there any possible way for me to join in on the fun on one of the continents? I've started now, so I haven't had much time for NS lately, but now it's just kinda the usual, so I'm thinking about getting more active in it. I've even got a few of my friends to join. I'm sad since I just kinda abruptly quit Earth II... If I can join, just tell me what I need to do.
Borman Empire
03-11-2005, 03:41
Borman Empire: LOL, you're so cordial. However, depending on the type of newcomer you get, you may get a nuke yourself. :P

So we have two votes to get rid of the inland spots. Keep them coming.

No fool would nuke me. It would start a world war, that would end in their destruction.
RomeW
03-11-2005, 08:15
Binthor: Sure you can come along. All you need to do is state where you want your colony to be and you're set.

Borman Empire: Noted.

Map updated.
Binthor
03-11-2005, 20:24
So, do I join in on Cordensa, since I'm new to Manium? I'll post a claim as soon as possible if so. I'm in school right now.
RomeW
04-11-2005, 07:13
So, do I join in on Cordensa, since I'm new to Manium? I'll post a claim as soon as possible if so. I'm in school right now.

You can go to Manium too if you want, but Cordensa, Elyisum and Pescium (they're all open) have more land.
The Lightning Star
04-11-2005, 13:41
Elysium Map Up-dated fo' today und Yesterday.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Thelightningstar/Elysium.png
Brutix
04-11-2005, 23:27
Hey TLS Id like land on Elysium, particulary Ais Isle, iwht of course 7 days worth of claiming to soon take the whole Isle!! MWUAHAH. ive been gone too long ., Thanks
RomeW
06-11-2005, 10:23
*bump*

I apologize for the lack of activity...it's been a busy week for me and I'll have another one next week. I hope to update the maps once this week though.
Sharina
06-11-2005, 10:38
RomeW, I would like to continue my expansion in Pescium- fill out the land between my territory, the coast, the river, and spot 29.
The Lightning Star
06-11-2005, 15:25
Hey TLS Id like land on Elysium, particulary Ais Isle, iwht of course 7 days worth of claiming to soon take the whole Isle!! MWUAHAH. ive been gone too long ., Thanks

Okie-day!

Map=updated!
RomeW
08-11-2005, 07:00
Maps updated.

One note: Sharina, I placed your claim elsewhere so that the person who claims Spot 29 can actually have some room to expand.
Sharina
08-11-2005, 07:05
Maps updated.

One note: Sharina, I placed your claim elsewhere so that the person who claims Spot 29 can actually have some room to expand.

Ahh- How long do I have to wait until I can fill out Spot 29? There's ample other available spots, though.
RomeW
08-11-2005, 07:25
I think in your case, wait a week or two. It's the same concept I used in Manium- expand around until there's no more room.
Sharina
08-11-2005, 07:29
I think in your case, wait a week or two. It's the same concept I used in Manium- expand around until there's no more room.

Okay- I can wait a week then we can decide this coming weekend whether to fill out spot 29, or wait another week. After all, I'm willing to compromise. :)
The Lightning Star
08-11-2005, 13:03
Ooooh crud, I've forgotten to update the map of Elysium. Silly me. I'll get on it this afternoon, for in just minutes I have to depart.
The Lightning Star
10-11-2005, 15:02
Elysium map FINALLY updated! I updated it for four days instead of one, since it's been four days since I last updated it.
Borman Empire
13-11-2005, 00:27
I'd like to expand south and west along the river bank, thnx.

(Cordensa)
Sharina
13-11-2005, 06:13
I'd like to undertake another phase of expansion to continue to fill out the goal of territory that I sent you in the TG, RomeW.
The Lightning Star
13-11-2005, 07:21
Elysium=t3h update!
RomeW
13-11-2005, 07:36
Borman Empire: Noted.

Sharina: Redefine the expansion here and I'll get to it.
Sharina
13-11-2005, 09:18
Borman Empire: Noted.

Sharina: Redefine the expansion here and I'll get to it.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4532/pescium2sr.png

Basically, I want to expand within the confines of the yellow line, then once I fill out the land enclosed by the yellow lines, I'll pretty much be done in Pescium (which should be around Thanksgiving or mid-December in RL) and then I may want to set up a colony in Elysium so that I can interact with stuff in Elysium later on.
RomeW
13-11-2005, 09:53
Sharina: Noted. I'll get to it later (too late now).

I'm also going to float the idea about a "Manium Conference" where we ICly set our boundaries in stone (or try to anyway), since Manium's pretty full anyway. Thoughts?
RomeW
14-11-2005, 04:51
Maps updated.
Sharina
14-11-2005, 05:19
Not sure if anyone has noticed yet, but Pescium is shaped exactly like a goldfish. ;)