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OOC: I saw the Airbus A380 today! It actually wasn't that much bigger than a Boeing 747. The fuselage was bigger, certainly...
OOC: One of the fastest too among airliners, I recall. Never seen one myself, but certainly a great beast.

Lastly, AGI will return to resurgence in around two weeks or so (RL) when I finish compiling my mini storefront.
OOC: I take it as a completely new thread?

OOC: About the Airbus... Yeah. They didn't show it off, though. It landed, went straight to the Domestic airport and into a hangar. They didn't even take a "lap" around to show off.

For the mini storefront... No. It's more of a reference thread. I did have a big idea about the format, though. Here's an example:

AFD-14 Skyfire (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7779572&postcount=865)
Type: (Non stealthy) air superiority fighter, light/medium strike capable
Nearest Real world equivalent: Eurofighter Typhoon
Replaces: F/A-18 Hornet; F-16 Falcon; F-15/15E Eagle/Strike Eagle (etc)
Brief Description: Blah blah blah

It'd let people at a glance see what the product is similar to and what RL designs it replaces. I'm going to write something like this for every product.

OOC: Certainly an interesting idea. Best to back up everything like I do if, for some very bizarre reason, the entire thread goes down)

OOC: Hnmmm, since there isn't another thread for this... SS, if you are reading this, are you interested in exchanging a license for the M-3 IFV in return for the refund of $77 billion for the production lienses for the munitions? I can increase the refund if you feel it is necessary, probably to $100 billion.

[Certainly.]

[Certainly.]
OOC: Alright, $100 billion in exchange for the IFV, since I really need it and the capability to mass reproduce vehicles in case of war. BTW, here's the custom variant I'm thinking of. If you spot any problems, let me know:

ScM3C Arbiter Infantry Fighting Vehicle
Modified Domestically Produced M-3 Arbiter IFV Variant (Scandavian States)
Weight: 62 tons
Dimensions: 4.12m X 11.8m X 4.12m
Speed: 96 kph top, 72 kph cros country
Crew: 4 & 9 soldiers
Armament: Turret with 40mm autocannon, 7.62mm coaxial MG, and 4-pack COFARAT launcher, 2x 7.62mm machine guns on side ball turrets
Armour: 3,000mm RHA front, 1,100mm RHA side, 1,000mm RHA rear, 700mm RHA top
Major Systems: MLTDIS MkII, PLIDARTS, MSTWR MkIII, countermeasures including custom-installed VAPS

OMASC Set to Propose Name Change

KANZE (OFN) - After almost seventy years of innovation and creation of a wide range of products, the previous-Omzian Military Aerospace Corporation is set to announce one of the most significant milestones in its history yet: a change in the name of the corporation in itself. The decision is done so, in the words of the OMASC maangement staff, to reflect "the ever-enduring cycle of changes that are constantly affecting OMASC and its ever-expanding roles."

OMASC Chairman, the former Navy captain Vanue Hagras, has officially announced the shocking news during a press conference in Kanze. He revealed that the change, though already long-planned before, is done out of the aftermath of the recent internal changes in OMASC's closest business partner, Adejaani Government Industries. "With such changes, which is quite shocking and most saddening on its own," Hagras explained, "we felt that such change would be necessary in order to accurately reflect the many changes that had been affecting OMASC for the past tens of years."

The new name, he revealed, will be OMASC National Defence Industries, or in its short form, OMASC/NDI. Though the complete version of the former is now changed to OMzian Aeronautics and Space Corporation / National Defence Industries, due to the awkwardness of the fully expanded version it is expected that the first two will be used most often in any future dealings involving OMASC.

NEW OMZIAN BALLISTIC MISSILE DEVELOPMENTS BY OMASC/NDI
Sledgehammer of Omazeeism, Ever-Enduring Symbol of the Glorious Gonkon (Military-First) Policy

RF-7C Gonkon Next Generation MRBM
Length: 15.8m
Diameter: 1.6m
Weight: 27,500kg
Guidance: INS with GPS backup, active/passive LPI radar or imaging IR at terminal
Stages: Two
Propellant: Solid (High Energy)
Range: 2800km with 2200kg MaRV, 4000km with 3x 500kg MaIRV
Payloads: 2200kg M225 MaRV (HE or FAE warheads), or 3x 500kg M192 MaIRV (HE, FAE, or submunitions)
CEP: ~30m
Platform: Longworm TEL (1 round per vehicle), Gonkon Rail Garrison System (6 missiles per train)
Cost: Not Intended For General Export ($12 million)
Deployment: Group Army level

RF-8A Redsword Next Generation IRBM
Length: 18.6m
Diameter: 1.8m
Weight: 40,600kg
Guidance: INS with GPS backup, active/passive LPI radar or imaging IR at terminal
Stages: Two
Propellant: Solid (High Energy)
Range: 2800km with 4000kg MaRV, 4500km with 2200kg MaRV warhead, 3800km with 3x 1000kg MaIRV warheads
Payloads: 4000kg M226 MaRV (HE or FAE warheads), 2200kg M225 MaRV, or 3x 1000kg M191 MaIRV (HE, FAE, or submunitions)
CEP: ~30m
Platform: Longworm-LD TEL (1 round per vehicle), Redsword Rail Garrison System (4 missiles per train)
Cost: Not Intended For General Export ($18 million)
Deployment: Group Army level

The RF-7C Gonkon and the RF-8A Redsword are the members of a new family of medium/intermediate range tactical conventional ballistic missiles, designed as replacements for the RF-6/7. The RF-7C is in essence an upscaled version of the RF-7B, while alternatively the RF-8A is an expanded variant of the RF-7C that is just below the size of lighter ICBMs, but with certain distinctions in its flight profile that makes it different from ICBMs intended for the nuclear role. Deployed on the Group Army level, these missiles are intended to be used as a highly-accurate yet difficult to intercept alternative to ground-launched long range cruise missiles, and are both road and rail mobile to decrease the chances of a successful counterattack against the missile launchers.

Like their predecessors, both missiles are constructed on the base of a lightweight missile body, composed of composites and kevlar materials. This missile body are divided into two stages, each with a rocket motor utilizing high-density, high-energy solid rocket fuel as a mean of propulsion. When compared to its air counterpart, the Triton, the RF-7C/8A has a more advanced and greatly more powerful rocket motors as a way of propelling the missile after it is cold-launched from its launchers.

To improve survivability, the missile is designed with the companion of multiple countermeasures systems. The centre of this is a dispenser containing 'multiple' balloon-like decoys, which consist of a light film of metal enclosing an IR signature generator, for the prupose of mimicking existing warheads. To aid in the further confusion of enemy sensors, some balloons (not all) are also equipped with additional reflectors for modifying the decoys' RCS. These decoys are deployed during various phases of flight, and is designed to confuse enemy IR and radar-based sensors. The missile warheads, some of which are the original Maneuverable Reentry Vehicle (MaRV) designs, are designed with special reflective surfaces to counter enemy laser energy-based weapons. It is also believed that the warheads themselves during travel are enclosed in their own decoy balloons, thus essentially disguising the warhead as a decoy, and that the lighter MaRVs are equipped with a small radar jamming system for harassing and disrupting (though not fully rendering it null and ineffective) radars of medium range surface-to-air systems, though these are all unconfirmed. What is confirmed however, is the existence of a dual radar/LADAR warning system, which is tied to a computer that controls the warheads' gas-based maneuver nozzles.

The warheads themself, aside from the features listed above, are equipped with an array of guidance systems. Though the missile itself has an INS navigation system with GPS backup, the warheads have a smaller variant of such guidance, in addition to a dual active/passive LPI radar. Alternatively, the warhead may carry an imaging IR seeker. The flight control systems of these warheads make them highly-accurate, making them useful for targeting assets of great military value.

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RF-12A Archer-B Next Generation SRBM
Length: 9.3m
Diameter: 1.1m
Weight: 6700kg
Guidance: INS with GPS backup, active/passive radar or EO backup at terminal
Range: 700km
Warhead: 1200kg (HE, FAE, 42x MIFAV)
Propellant: Solid (High Energy)
CEP: ~12m
Launch Platform: Longworm-SD TEL (2 rounds per vehicle)
Cost: $4 million (allies only)
Deployment: Corps level; Army Border Defence Command

The RF-12A Archer-B is a new replacement for the Long Archer, and is intended as the mainstay of the Omzian Army's long range tactical rocket artillery forces, with a size similar to those of the ever-famous Scud. It is built upon the original Long Archer, but has an improved and more efficient rocket motor to provide a longer range. The warhead, which is maneuverable, has a guidance system similar to those of the MaRVs of the RF-7C/8A, but are programmed and geared more for the role of tactical attack against both enemy ground forces and fixed military assets. The countermeasures systems stay much the same, and are designed to reduce the effectiveness of existing tactical ballistic missile defence systems.

A preview of what is to come:

Unnamed next generation air superiority fighter (intended as F/A-22 replacement, and maybe a F-107 replacement as well - there won't be anything like switchblade wings, since this will be designed to be more reliable and rugged when compared to other air superiority fighters)
Upgrade for the F/A-40 Unity
Upgrade for the F/A-109 and the FV-109
Unnamed next generation lightweight multirole fighter (intended as JSF replacement)

And finishing up the B-110 writeup if I ever have the time to do so.

[Obviously I'm looking forward to the next round of aircraft updates. Right now the F/A-40 Unity is under consideration for purchase as a second-line fighter, but that largely depends on whether or not I go forward with plans to build up an aerospace force reserve.]

[Obviously I'm looking forward to the next round of aircraft updates. Right now the F/A-40 Unity is under consideration for purchase as a second-line fighter, but that largely depends on whether or not I go forward with plans to build up an aerospace force reserve.]
OOC: The upgraded version will be in the class of an enlargened Eurofighter (or an enlargened F/A-109, even), and will be a less-stealthy but more versatile counterpart of the first new fighter I mentioned. Think of something like a F/A-22 vs. vastly upgraded F-15C for comparison.

A preview of what is to come:

Unnamed next generation air superiority fighter (intended as F/A-22 replacement, and maybe a F-107 replacement as well - there won't be anything like switchblade wings, since this will be designed to be more reliable and rugged when compared to other air superiority fighters)
Upgrade for the F/A-40 Unity
Upgrade for the F/A-109 and the FV-109
Unnamed next generation lightweight multirole fighter (intended as JSF replacement)

And finishing up the B-110 writeup if I ever have the time to do so.

Interesting. What will the B-110 be? A heavy bomber? Light bomber? Fast bomber?

OOC: Think of a vastly upgraded version of the B-52, only much better.

OOC: Think of a vastly upgraded version of the B-52, only much better.

Hmmm...interesting, very interesting. Is it going to be that thing you said that you were going to make a B-52 into an air battleship? ;)

Hmmm...interesting, very interesting. Is it going to be that thing you said that you were going to make a B-52 into an air battleship? ;)
OOC: I never recall saying that... However, it will certainly be very large, even though it will be no where near an air battleship. :)

F-120 Darkhawk Next Generation Air Superiority Fighter
Length: 23.9m
Height: 5.9m
Wingspan: 16.6m
Propulsion: Two Hongaz Electrics 'Ultrafire' turbofans with 42,100lb thrust, 3D thrust-vectoring, and built-in firefighting capabilities
Empty Weight: 22,100kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 52,100kg
Crew: One
Ceiling: 75,000ft
Range: 7500km ferry, 1800km combat radius
Speed: Mach 2.78 max, Mach 1.96 supercruise
Armaments: 1x 27mm cannon w/ 460 rounds, 1x main weapon bay and 2x side weapon bays, 8x external hardpoints (for total of 10,500kg payload)
Main Weapon Bays (Each): 8x MRAAM, 7x MRAAM & 2x SRAAM, 3x LRAAM & 2x MRAAM, 2x LRAAM & 4x MRAAM, 2x 1000lb munition & 4x MRAAM, 4x 500lb munition & 4x MRAAM, 3x 2000lb munition & 3x MRAAM, 12x 250lb munition & 2x MRAAM, 4x 1000lb munition & 2x MRAAM, 6x 500lb munition & 2x MRAAM, 2x 500lb munition & 6x MRAAM, 2x 3000lb munition & 1x MRAAM
Side Weapon Bays: 1x MRAAM, 2x SRAAM, 1x MRAAM & 1x SRAAM
External Hardpoints (2x Wingtip): 1x SRAAM, 1x MRAAM
External Hardpoints (2x Center): 2x MRAAM, 1x 1000lb, 2x 500lb munition, 4x 250lb munition, 1x fuel tank
External Hardpoints (2x Outboard): 1x MRAAM, 1x 500lb munition, 2x 250lb munition
External Hardpoints (2x Inboard): 1x ELRAAM, 1x LRAAM, 3x MRAAM, 3x 1000lb munition, 4x 500lb munition, 1x 2000-3000lb munition, 8x 250lb munition, 1x fuel tank & 2x MRAAM
Unit Cost: $150 million
Export Cost: $235 million (close allies only)

Basic features: -New generation air superiority fighter of a (relatively) conservative design but with greater reliability, designed to replace the F/A-22
-Layout similar to the F/A-22 with a delta-like wing, a pair of canards, and V-tails
-Somewhat stealthy but with larger (and unstealthy) intakes for improved speeds, intake placed beneath wing root with large 3D thrust vectoring nozzles
-Slightly armoured cockpit and built-in Halon-based firefighting system
-Airframe with composites and advanced alloys, but much larger than the F/A-22 to allow a greater load
-Wings are mission-adaptive, allowing greater maneuverability
-Short-distance takeoff capability when compared to aircraft of similar size, allowing operation from smaller airfields and even large highway strips
-Advanced glass cockpit with HOTAS and wide-screen HUD; provisions for advanced helmet sight/targeting systems

Offensive Avionics and Communications System: -'Multiplex-ER' forward-facing ELPI radar with anti-ARC capabilities and improved NCTR capabilities, doubles as radar 'jammer' by concentrating high-energy beams (500+ km range against a variety of targets)
-'Gulleye' air-to-air imaging IRST system with pulse laser rangefinder and target recognition capabilities (130+ km range against supersonic aircraft)
-'Crowtail' rear-facing LPI radar with limited air-to-air capabilities (150+ km range against aircraft)
-'Needlehole' air-to-air pulse LADAR in chin pod, doubles as LADAR 'jammer' in a similar fashion as the Multiplex-ER (200+ km range against aircraft)
-'Falconhole' advanced ground targeting system with FLIR, NV, and either small LADAR or MMW radar; for both targeting and navigation; doubles as ad-hoc reconnaissance pod with datalinking capabilities; semi-rotateable for greater targeting capabilities
-'Thrustmode' advanced radar warning and ELINT system, allowing targeting of air and ground based radars and radio communication sensors
-'Thor' centralized fire control and combat computer system, utilizing multiple sensors and information gathered from outside sources as a mean of targeting and engagement; includes aircraft-to-weapon datalinks
-'Linkfox-ER' advanced datalinking system
-'Doorstep' advanced flight-wide (4-8 aircraft) coordination system, allowing aircraft in an entire flight to fly at a distance of few to several kilometers from each other without being in an extremely close formation
-Secure radio and satellite datalinks; wingman-to-wingman long-of-sight laser communications

Defensive and Countermeasures Systems: -'Scarecrow' combined EWR/ECM system (radar and LADAR warning, radar jamming, limited active radar cancellation for use against AAMs)
-Chaff and flare dispensers
-Room for 2x towed decoys in wing
-Electrochromic panels for countermeasure against IR-guided missiles

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F-120B Shadowfalcon Next Generation Air Superiority Fighter
Length: 24.3m
Height: 6.1m
Wingspan: 17.5m
Propulsion: Two Hongaz Electrics 'Thrustmax' hybrid PDE-turbofans with 48,900lb thrust with 3D thrust-vectoring
Empty Weight: 23,100kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 53,500kg
Crew: One
Ceiling: 75,000ft
Range: 8500km ferry with full drop tanks load, 2400km combat radius (heavy air interception)
Speed: Mach 2.85 max, Mach 2 supercruise
Armaments: 1x 27mm cannon w/ 460 rounds, 1x main weapon bay and 2x side weapon bays, 8x external hardpoints (for total of 10,500kg payload)
Main Weapon Bays (Each): 8x MRAAM, 7x MRAAM & 2x SRAAM, 3x LRAAM & 2x MRAAM, 2x LRAAM & 4x MRAAM, 2x 1000lb munition & 4x MRAAM, 4x 500lb munition & 4x MRAAM, 3x 2000lb munition & 3x MRAAM, 12x 250lb munition & 2x MRAAM, 4x 1000lb munition & 2x MRAAM, 6x 500lb munition & 2x MRAAM, 2x 500lb munition & 6x MRAAM, 2x 3000lb munition & 1x MRAAM
Side Weapon Bays: 1x MRAAM, 2x SRAAM, 1x MRAAM & 1x SRAAM
External Hardpoints (2x Wingtip): 1x SRAAM, 1x MRAAM
External Hardpoints (2x Center): 2x MRAAM, 1x 1000lb, 2x 500lb munition, 4x 250lb munition, 1x fuel tank
External Hardpoints (2x Outboard): 1x MRAAM, 1x 500lb munition, 2x 250lb munition
External Hardpoints (2x Inboard): 1x ELRAAM, 1x LRAAM, 3x MRAAM, 3x 1000lb munition, 4x 500lb munition, 1x 2000-3000lb munition, 8x 250lb munition, 1x fuel tank & 2x MRAAM
Unit Cost: $150 million
Export Cost: $235 million (close allies only)

Basic features: -New generation upgraded air superiority fighter based on the F-120A design but with more powerful PDE engines and greater internal fuel load, designed to function as a replacement for the F/A-22 while being a high-performance alternative to the reliable and rugged F-120A
-Layout similar to the F/A-22 with a delta-like wing, a pair of canards, and V-tails; enlargened wings to accommodate bigger fuel load with addition of conformal fuel tanks
-Somewhat stealthy but with large intakes for improved speeds, intake placed beneath wing root with large 3D thrust vectoring nozzles
-Slightly armoured cockpit and built-in Halon-based firefighting system
-Airframe with composites and advanced alloys, but much larger than the F/A-22 to allow a greater load
-Wings are mission-adaptive, allowing greater maneuverability
-Advanced glass cockpit with HOTAS and wide-screen HUD; integrated helmet sight/targeting systems

Offensive Avionics and Communications System: -'Multiplex-Plus' forward-facing ELPI radar with anti-ARC capabilities and improved NCTR capabilities, doubles as radar 'jammer' by concentrating high-energy beams to attack radar and communications arrays (500+ km range against a variety of targets)
-'Gulleye-ER' air-to-air imaging IRST system with pulse laser rangefinder and target recognition capabilities (150+ km range against supersonic aircraft)
-'Hawktail' rear-facing LPI radar with limited air-to-air capabilities (120+ km range against aircraft)
-'Needlehole' air-to-air pulse LADAR in chin pod, doubles as LADAR 'jammer' in a similar fashion as the Multiplex-ER (80+ km range against aircraft)
-'Falconhole-XR' advanced ground targeting system with advanced FLIR and NV for both targeting and navigation; doubles as ad-hoc reconnaissance pod with datalinking capabilities; can accept additional LADAR module with modification
-'Thrustmode' advanced radar warning and ELINT system, allowing targeting of air and ground based radars and radio communication sensors
-'Thor' centralized fire control and combat computer system, utilizing multiple sensors and information gathered from outside sources as a mean of targeting and engagement; includes aircraft-to-weapon datalinks
-'Linkfox-ER' advanced datalinking system
-'Doorstep' advanced flight-wide (4-8 aircraft) coordination system, allowing aircraft in an entire flight to fly at a distance of few to several kilometers from each other without being in an extremely close formation
-Secure radio and satellite datalinks; wingman-to-wingman long-of-sight laser communications

Defensive and Countermeasures Systems: -'Scarecrow' combined EWR/ECM system (radar and LADAR warning, radar jamming, limited active radar cancellation for use against AAMs)
-Chaff and flare dispensers
-Room for 2x towed decoys in wing
-Electrochromic panels for countermeasure against IR-guided missiles

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F-40C Unity Upgraded Heavy Multirole Fighter
Length: 24.7m
Height: 6.3m
Wingspan: 17.2m
Propulsion: 2x Hongaz Electrics 'Mjolnir II' turbofans with 43,800lb thrust each, with 3D thrust vectoring
Empty Weight: 18,200kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 42,600kg
Crew: Two (Pilot and Weapons Systems Officer)
Ceiling: 75,000ft
Range: 5500km ferry, 1500km combat radius
Speed: Mach 2.86 max, Mach 1.5 supercruise
Armaments: 1x 27mm cannon, 17 hardpoints (2x wingtip, 2x outboard underwing, 2x center underwing, 4x inboard underwing, 4x on engine intakes, 3x centerline) for a total of 11,000kg of ordnance
Wingtip Hardpoints (Each): 1x MRAAM, 1x SRAAM
Outboard Underwing Hardpoints: 1x MRAAM, 1x 500lb munition, 2x 250lb munition
Center Underwing Hardpoints: 2x MRAAM, 1x 1000lb, 2x 500lb munition, 4x 250lb munition
Inboard Underwing Hardpoints: 1x ELRAAM, 1x LRAAM, 3x MRAAM, 3x 1000lb munition, 4x 500lb munition, 1x 2000-3000lb munition, 8x 250lb munition, 1x fuel tank & 2x MRAAM
Engine Intakes Hardpoints: 2x MRAAM, 1x 1000lb bomb, 2x 500lb
Centerline Hardpoints (Outer Two): 1x LRAAM, 2x MRAAM, 3x 500lb munition, 2x 1000lb munition, 1x 2000-3000lb munition, 8x 250lb munition
Centerline Hardpoints (Middle): 1x fuel tank (center one only) & 2x MRAAM, 3x MRAAM, 4x 500lb munition, 3x 1000lb munition, 2x 2000lb munition, 1x 3000-5000lb munition, 12x 250lb munition
Unit Cost: $90 million
Export Cost: $140 million (allies only)

Basic features: -Upgrade for existing F/A-40A Unity high-speed multirole strike fighter, roles similar to the F-15E
-Layout similar to the Su-35 with canards and V-tails
-Armoured cockpit and built-in fire extinguishing systems
-Airframe constructed with composites and advanced alloys to allow both high-speed dashes and low-level flight
-Mission-adaptive wings
-Advanced glass cockpit with HOTAS and wide-screen HUD; provisions for advanced helmet sight/targeting systems

Offensive Avionics and Communications System: -'Rabbit' forward-facing ELPI radar with anti-ARC capabilities and improved NCTR capabilities, doubles as radar 'jammer' by concentrating high-energy beams (420+ km range against a variety of targets)
-'Gulleye-ER' air-to-air imaging IRST system with pulse laser rangefinder and target recognition capabilities (150+ km range against supersonic aircraft)
-'Falcontail' rear-facing LPI radar with limited air-to-air capabilities (100+ km range against aircraft)
-'Needlehole' air-to-air pulse LADAR in chin pod, doubles as LADAR 'jammer' in a similar fashion as the Multiplex-ER (200+ km range against aircraft)
-'Skyeye' built-in advanced navigation/target pod system mounted on fuselage, with advanced FLIR and NV seekers. Extra space allows the installation of either a datalinking module, or alternatively a LADAR or MMW radar.
-'Thrustmode' advanced radar warning and ELINT system, allowing targeting of air and ground based radars and radio communication sensors
-'Thor' centralized fire control and combat computer system, utilizing multiple sensors and information gathered from outside sources as a mean of targeting and engagement; includes aircraft-to-weapon datalinks
-'Linkfox-ER' advanced datalinking system
-Secure radio and satellite datalinks; wingman-to-wingman long-of-sight laser communications

Defensive and Countermeasures Systems: -'Scarecrow-B' combined EWR/ECM system (radar and LADAR warning, radar jamming, limited active radar cancellation for use against AAMs)
-Chaff and flare dispensers
-Room for 2x towed decoys in wing
-Electrochromic panels for countermeasure against IR-guided missiles

OOC: As there is going to be a war affecting the Omzian Republic, and as I have very little time IRL as of right now, I will post the B-110 stats Early. Be warned, most of the writeup is still incomplete.


B-110 Archstream Ultra Heavy Strategic Bomber Project Unveiled
New Project Under the Wise Guidance of the Beloved National Founder, Hongaz Omazee
Exports Open to Approved Allies

Origin and Introduction
The latest aircraft produced by OMASC, this is the largest bomber that will be in the service of the Omzian Forces. The idea for the bomber was immediately conceived after the development of the B-108 Thunderhawk, as an eventual replacement for the maintenance-intensive swing-wing B-105 Skyhammer design, that would be easier to maintain yet equipped with even greater capabilities. The end result of this project, termed 'Archbird' by OMASC and the Omzian Air Force, is the B-110. Often referred to as the "battleship airliner" by its designers and test pilots, the aircraft is intended to complement existing Thunderhawk and Bombardier bombers in Omzian service, as a very high-payload aircraft capable of delivering a mass quantity of munitions both in intercontinental bombing missions and support of ground forces. Though it suffers in terms of speed and altitude, the wide array of offensive and defensive systems makes the bomber a very heavily armed platform that would be difficult to contend with.

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Standard Payloads
Weapons Bay (Standard/Max)
-3x/6x BLU-200A/C heavy penetrators (1x/2x each bay)
-3x BLU-201A/B 'Superbomb' (1x each bay)
-1x BLU-202A 'Megabomb' (with modifications)
-18x/30x 8000lb PDAS-Penetrator (6x/10x per bay)
-135x/234x Mk.288 Thermonuclear Bomb (0.2-50kT) (45x/78x each bay)
-180x/312x Mk.230 Thermonuclear Bomb (0.05-30kT) (60x/104x each bay)
-135x/234x Mk.178 Runway Attack Munition (45x/78x each bay)
-72x/120x 2000lb PDAS (24x/40x per bay)
-72x/120x 2000lb PDAS-Napalm (24x/40x per bay)
-72x/120x 2000lb PDAS-FAE (24x/40x per bay)
-72x/120x 2000lb PDAS-Penetrator (24x/40x per bay)
-72x/120x 2000lb Mk.89 CAPTOR (24x/40x per bay)
-135x/234x 1000lb PDAS (45x/78x each bay)
-270x/456x 500lb PDAS (90x/152x each bay)
-480x/900x 250lb SPDAS (192x/300x each bay)
-96x/156x CBU-203/B or CBU-87/B (32x/52x each bay)
-96x/156x CBU-204/B or CBU-89/B (32x/52x each bay)
-96x/156x CBU-205/B or CBU-97/B (32x/52x each bay)
-96x/156x CBU-207/B (32x/52x each bay)
-96x/156x CBU-208/B (32x/52x each bay)
-96x/156x CBU-209/B (32x/52x each bay)
-72x/120x CSJ Chevalier HAM (24x/40x per bay)
-6x/12x Meteor-G ASMs (2x/4x each bay)
-36x/60x Roundel ASMs (12x/20x each bay)
-12x/18x Longaxe ASM/ALCMs (4x/6x each bay)
-6x/9x Arquebus ALCMs (2x/3x each bay)
-48x/72x SGAM SALMs (16x/24x each bay)
-30x/48x Tigersword-E/G ALCM (10x/16x each bay)
-60x/90x Tigersword-F LALCM (20x/30x each bay)
-12x/18x Tigersword-H ASM (4x/6x each bay)

External Pylons (Total)
-48x AIM-120PB NLRAAM (8x each station)
-6x/12x 8000lb PDAS-Penetrator (1x/2x each station)
-30x/48x Mk.288 Thermonuclear Bomb (0.2-50kT) (5/8x each station)
-48x/72x Mk.230 Thermonuclear Bomb (0.05-30kT) (8x/12x each station)
-60x/96x Mk.178 Runway Attack Munition (10x/16x each station)
-30x/48x 2000lb PDAS (5x/8x each station)
-30x/48x 2000lb PDAS-Napalm (5x/8x each station)
-30x/48x 2000lb PDAS-FAE (5x/8x each station)
-30x/48x 2000lb PDAS-Penetrator (5x/8x each station)
-30x/48x 2000lb Mk.98 CAPTOR (5x/8x each station)
-60x/96x 1000lb PDAS (10x/16x each station)
-120x/192x 500lb PDAS (20x/32x each station)
-42x/60x CBU-203/B or CBU-87/B (7x/10x each station)
-42x/60x CBU-204/B or CBU-89/B (7x/10x each station)
-42x/60x CBU-205/B or CBU-97/B (7x/10x each station)
-42x/60x CBU-207/B (7x/10x each station)
-42x/60x CBU-208/B (7x/10x each station)
-42x/60x CBU-209/B (7x/10x each station)
-30x/48x CSJ Chevalier HAM (5x/8x each station)
-6x Meteor-G ASMs (1x each station)
-18x/24x Roundel ASMs (3x/4x each station)
-6x Longaxe ASM/ALCMs (1x each station)
-18x/30x SGAM ALMs (3x/5x each station)
-30x/48x Buzzsaw ARM (5x/8x each station)
-72x/96x Buzzblade ARM (12x/16x each station)
-12x/18x Tigersword-E/G ALCM (2x/3x each station)
-24x/36x Tigersword-F LALCM (4x/6x each station)
-6x Tigersword-H ASM (1x each station)
-Additional fuel tanks or transport pods

Self-Defence Bays
-12x AIM-120PB NLRAAM (6x per bay)
-10x decoy drones (5x each bay)
-10x 500lb countermeasure bombs (5x each bay)

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Specifications
Length: 94.5m
Height: 28.5m
Wingspan: 101.6m
Propulsion: Eight Hongaz Electrics 'MSR-225' turbofans, 72,000lb thrust each (in four engine pods)
Empty Weight: 362,000kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 815,000kg
Crew: Six with two additional (Pilot, Copilot/Flight Engineer, Bombardier/Navigator, Offensive Systems and Datalink Operator, Defensive Systems Operator, Defensive Weapons Operator)
Ceiling: 60,000ft
Range: 10,000km with max payload, 17,500km with standard payload
Speed: Mach 0.98 max at altitude, Mach 0.86-9 cruise
Payload: 110,000kg (242,509lb) standard, 170,000kg (374,785lb) max of weapons in three main weapon bays, six large underwing store stations (two pylons accepting Payload Carriage Racks [PACAR]), and two self-defence weapons bays; three Self Defence System turrets (one tail, one chin, one upper fuselage), two 'Saturn' LADAR jammer turrets (one tail, one chin) and five 'Apollo' high-energy active radar countermeasure system turrets (one tail, one chin, one ventral, two upper fuelage)
Unit Cost: $750 million
Export Cost: $900 million (close allies only, no exceptions)

[Production rights? This is probably going to be the first non-supersonic bomber in IAF service in a long time, but with the payload it brings I view that as acceptable.

Oh, and what's this war you speak of?]

[Production rights? This is probably going to be the first non-supersonic bomber in IAF service in a long time, but with the payload it brings I view that as acceptable.]
OOC: Indeed, and great endurance and resistance to damage too (the fuel tanks are all armoured somewhat with integrated fire suppression systems, and the engine pods are designed to eject themselves if they catch an uncontrollable fire). When I actually have the time for the aircraft... $280 billion.

War? It is a war between Hog's newest rendition (Questers) and a group of 'imperialists' that is spinning out of control. The situation is a bit complex, so you might want to search for threads that Questers posted in and see for yourself.

[Sounds good. I do have a question, though. How come it can fit so many nukes but not 2,000 or even 500 pound bombs? I would have thought it would be able to drop those in the thousands.

[Omz, have you ever thought of doing a space craft? I mean, either STO or STS type?]

OOC: Re. The nukes. I tcan actually fit less nukes, since my own nuke bombs are in the 250lb - 500lb class, not 1000lb. Aside from that, it is the physical size restraints.

As for spacecraft, I haven't thought about that yet, as quite frankly I am far from informed in regards to space aircraft. But I'll think of something.

OOC: Just for a note, my current forecasting informs me that the upgrades for the F-109s, etc. will not come until near Christmas. HOWEVER, hopefully by then I will also be able to roll out new upgrades for the B-108s as well. Stay tuned while I'm swarmed by tests.

OOC- You know my credit that I have built up... Say, could I happen to either buy production rights or quite a few of your B-110. I really do need a nice big, lumbering giant to carpet bomb the living hell out of everyone... Especially considering I still use Tu-95s and... Uhh... A handful of B-52s [Oh God, how the hell can I still use those when I have F-67s and F-78s darting around...]. Yeah, I need some heavy upgrades. And the B-110 looks to be an exceptional replacement for those while supplementing the previous bombers I purchased from you [B-101Ds?], but which haven't seen action due to my massive war-drought [a year and a half...] and probably, likely never will...

Now about the only thing left to do is to upgrade my F-225A Kestril to round out my bombing and strike fleets, but I tried and lost my ambition. Now I just want to hand it off to someone to improve for me.

Anyways... I WANT B-110! GAHHH!!!

OOC: According to OMASC policy, we can only include Soviet Bloc under both 'allies' and 'established trading partners', which means that you have open access to the production licenses of Omzian aircraft. For the B-110, I admit that it is quite not a completely finished product as of yet (unfortunately, that will only be true when it comes to Christmas time where I will have the time to finish the write-up), but the B-110 is indeed designed as a replacement for the B-52, the Tu-95, as well as the few airliner-converted-to-cruise missile carriers out there. You can notice that the aircraft is fairly big, but it is also (somewhat) armoured as well. The centerpiece of its defensive systems will probably be the 'Apollo', which are basically transmitter-only versions of the AN/APG-77 dedicated to 'jamming' enemy radars (AAM or whatnot) with high-energy transmissions... It is also great for carpetbombing, which is the reason for the integrated sensor pod 'turrets' that will hopefully be integrated into the aircraft.

Don't forget that you have the B-108A too, I think. And the B-101D.

For the B-110, I'm thinking either $280 billion, or alternatively $80 billion with production rights to the Mk.71 gun. The gun won't be employed on ships too often, but rather will be installed on rail carriages.

Your choice :) And thanks for the compliments!

OOC- A-HA! I knew I had the B-108 too, I forgot to paste its specs down in my "OMZIAN BOMBERS" document... Hehe, that's how I keep track of foreign units that I use.

Aww, hell, you can have the Mk. 71 and I'll take the rights for $80 Billion. Now I just have to wait for the finished product? Should look beautiful when complete...

OOC: I'll give in my best efforts.

OOC: Excuse me for any errors, but keep in mind that this is coming from someone who has absolutely no experience whatsoever beforehand with rifle design. /OOC

M25 Assault Rifle
OMASC National Defence Industries, Land Division

Weight: 4.5kg with standard attachments
Dimensions: 750mm / 470mm
Calibre and Magazine: 6.5x38mm Caseless, 40 rounds per mag
Weapon Range: 650m maximum effective
ROF and Fire Modes: Semi-Automatic, 3-round Burst (1300rpm), full auto (800rpm)
Cost: $1500 (unit cost, standard configuration), $1900 (sale, standard configuration)

The M25 Assault Rifle, fabricated and designed by OMASC/NDI, is intended as the new replacement for the aging M20 series weapon systems. A standard bullpup designs, it utilizes various orthodox design features, but with some notable exceptions. The M25, needlessly to say, is destined to be a effective yet cheap weapon system that will serve the Omzian forces for a considerable quantity of time in the future.

Kinetic System
The M25 Assault Rifle is a system of different components; however, its primary component is the kinetic portion of the weapon. The M25 is a standard bullpup rifle, utilizing the 6.5x38mm Caseless round, designed by OMASC/NDI. The round is designed for ease of fabrication, lower carrying weight and higher carrying capacity than similar-sized brass cased rounds, and a greater lethalty against armoured targets. As the Omzian Democratic Republic does not recongize international conventions, standard issue rounds include blended metal, hollow point, training (i.e. blanks and 'simunition'), and rubber bullets.

The actual kinetic portion of the rifle is constructed mainly of composite materials and advanced alloys, a lightweight measure that is designed to ease the soldier's load in combat. Though electrical firing mechanisms are considered, in the end they are discarded due to reliability and cost effectiveness reasons. Nevertheless, the rifle can accommodate a standard 40-round magazine, operating in semi-automatic, burst, and full automatic firing rates.

Secondary and Sighting Systems
The M25 Assault Rifle's secondary and sighting systems revolves around its unique accessories mounting system, the 'Longnail', which utilizes both rails and 'snap-on' attachment 'ports' to accommodate a wide array of different accessories, including secondary weapons (i.e. grenade launchers), sights of different types, a forward grip, or even a sound suppressor system. Standard attachment includes the Donsaraz Optics 'TAGAN' 1.5X close combat sight, suited for both closed-in and extended range weapon operations, a forward grip, and a bayonet. In addition, optionals addition to the standard attachments include a flashlight and a computerized system that allows the rifle to be electronically linked to the PDA installed as a part of the Omzian infantryman's standard combat dress and accessories. the TAGAN can also be replaced by the 'Multiplex' 3X computerized sight, which also includes a laser rangefinder and a computer for precise aiming.

In addition to the standard attachment, a number of other optional accessories can be attached. These include an advanced 4.5X telescoping sight, a 5X digital optical sight, and a 3X nightvision system in the sensors arena. Along with this, a 25mm grenade launcher or a 12-gauge shotgun can also be mounted under the barrel. The grenade launcher utilizes a three-round magazine, while the shotgun has a 6-round magazine.

Deployment
It is expected that 'several tens of thousands' of units will be initially ordered by the Omzian Army, following greater contracts in every-increasing value and quantities. The rifle is expected to completely replace the M20 'in ten years' in Omzian Army, Air Force, Navy, Honour Guard, National Guard, and National Air Guard service, and will complement the PAP and the Militia's existing FN FAL and FN MAG in the respective marksman rifle and machine gun roles.

Additional Variants
M25S: Sharpshooter variant with lengthened barrel and 8X telescoping sight
M25F: Squad assault weapon with heavier barrel and accepting 260-round drum
M25C: 'Commando' variant; carbine with special 1.8X close-in combat sight, shortened barrel, and provisions for additional accessories
M25B: People's Armed Police and People's Militia variant with shortened barrel, and iron sights
SR-25K: Shortened without provision for accessories, part of the M22 LGW (separate weapon; not related)

[Omz, are you up for designing a real AWACs? The frame you use is up to you, the only requirement I have is that it be more capable than NE's E-33. The one require I do have is that it utilize an LPI phased array radar.]

[Btw, just so you know, I'm going to be doubling the size of my Aerospace Force.]

[Omz, are you up for designing a real AWACs? The frame you use is up to you, the only requirement I have is that it be more capable than NE's E-33. The one require I do have is that it utilize an LPI phased array radar.]
OOC: Unfortunately, I still have to finish the other aircraft first, and frankly I don't think that I will have a lot of time. However, I do already have my E-787 AWACS, all it takes is a writeup.

OOC: Omz, check the CAP boards on what's going in II.

OOC: Omz, check the CAP boards on what's going in II.
OOC: I did, but unfortunately my schedule is increasingly tight right now and any chance of me involving in an extended RP is questionable... and I must apologize dearly for that.

[Well, do the writeup on the E-787 and I'll buy it as an interim solution, assuming you'd be willing to design another AEW aircraft based off the C-117 Skytruck.)

[Well, do the writeup on the E-787 and I'll buy it as an interim solution, assuming you'd be willing to design another AEW aircraft based off the C-117 Skytruck.)
OOC: That type of solution might be too bulky, and it is far more reasonable to just use a smaller airframe or something A380 sized (maybe a E-380A as opposed to the E-787). However, in the end the combat aircraft still comes first, since quite frankly, the upgrades will be more important for both parties (i.e. Omzian forces and allies).

[Actually, looking at the stats, the C-115 might just be a better candidate. It's slightly larger than the E-3. If an E-115 does end up being designed, I think it would be optimal to use its one advantage as much as possible; speed. I don't think even billboard type radars could stay attached to an airframe at transonic or supersonic speeds, which would mean a very advanced internally mounted radar a la Nimrod AEW3. What do you think?]

OOC: The problem is that the C-115 from the start is still of relatively a small size and its supersonic speed isn't particular a good thing if you want to fit it with a powerful and effective radar. Yes, speed will be the advantage, but the only advantage that a C-115 airframe will have. An A380 airframe fitted with new engines is still a better alternative since a) the size is just right for a good radar and b) its disadvantages doesn't outweigh its advantages.

However, an E-115 might still be possible, but will most likely be shortened and deployed as a complementary unit for the larger E-380A. I am also planning to make similar JSTARS versions that will be dedicated to ground and maritime target tracking. That will come, however, after the B-110 writeup and the F-109 upgrade. I will scrap the next generation JSF idea just because I need the time to prepare the government exams that will come in January and February.

[Too small? The E-3 isn't any kind of slouch and it is smaller than the C-115, I checked. And if you're going to go as huge as the A-380, why not go all the way up to the C-117, the size difference isn't that great and a lot can be gained from airframe commonality.

Anyway, I would argue that a good portion of AEW aircraft capability is in the technologies that the radars use. The JASDF E-767 is a more capable aircraft than the E-3, but that is due to the fact that the E-767 has a more advanced radar, not a bigger one.]

OOC: The fact is that the A380 is what you'd call 'not too big, not too small', meaning that it doesn't have its disadvantages outweighed by its advantages like the C-115 (since mounting an AWACS radar on a supersonic aircraft isn't an easy task without undermining the radar's capability, and since the C-117's extra-large size isn't needed). There are various ways to place a radar on an AWACS, but so far the format on the E-3 still seems to be the most effective, allowing a top-of-the-line and a rather large radar to be placed. On smaller aircraft of course, it must be substituted with other types, hence why I've said the E-115 is more of a second-line AWACS rather than a full fledged one.

Also, while it is true that technology plays a role, so do the size of the aircraft itself. Why? Not necessarily just because of the radars, but also the computers, in addition to the defensive systems against missile attacks that you would expect from NS aircraft.

All in all, I will probably make three variants. One will be the AWACS, one is the JSTARS/maritime surveillance, and the final version is an ELINT/SIGINT aircraft.

[Well, if you look at the Nimrod, the nose and tail were extended outwards to effectively fit the radars. So, internal volume wasn't compromised all that much, and as I said the C-115 is bigger than the E-3 (which I believe is based on the DC-10).

And if size plays as much of a role as you indicate, then why can't an even larger radar be mounted on the C-117? And the Airbus A-380 is huge, it seats over 500 passengers comfortably on two decks, and probably with a great deal of comfort if my experiences as a passenger on Airbuses and Boeings are anything to go by.

Keep in mind I'm playing Devil's Advocate here; I know you're going to design what you're comfortable with, just as you know that if I have a great enough need I'll buy whatever you design.]

[Well, if you look at the Nimrod, the nose and tail were extended outwards to effectively fit the radars. So, internal volume wasn't compromised all that much, and as I said the C-115 is bigger than the E-3 (which I believe is based on the DC-10).
OOC: The problem is still that it isn't the most effective way of mounting a large air-to-air radar in terms of getting it to actually see something, and the 'dome' solution on the E-3 is probably the most effective. Either way, you are still trading sensor capabilities for speed, which isn't all that important since the degree of vulnerability will be about the same.

And if size plays as much of a role as you indicate, then why can't an even larger radar be mounted on the C-117? And the Airbus A-380 is huge, it seats over 500 passengers comfortably on two decks, and probably with a great deal of comfort if my experiences as a passenger on Airbuses and Boeings are anything to go by.
Cost effectiveness. You can mount an even larger radar (though the size doesn't usually increase porportionally in respects to the aircraft's size), but the costs of maintaining the aircraft will be astronomical and you probably wouldn't really need that extra capability, aside from the fact that the C-117 was originally designed to be a tanker and not a sensor-carrier aka AWACS/JSTARS/ELINT designs. The A380 in my belief is sufficient yet cost-effective as well if you want a top-of-the-line design without going too extraneous.

Keep in mind I'm playing Devil's Advocate here; I know you're going to design what you're comfortable with, just as you know that if I have a great enough need I'll buy whatever you design.]
I understand your concerns, but so far the A380 airframe I think is sufficient enough and reduces the aircraft's overall cost as well due to the simple fact that the design in itself is fairly widespread already in NS, thus potentially lowering overall costs. The E-115 will be a second-rate, but nevertheless, effective platform that can be used in conflicts of smaller scales or operate as a complement to its large counterpart.

OOC: Yes, I'm still here a bit. Sorry I haven't gotten into the game again...

For an AWACs, I developed a B-1 Lancer type thing with a phased array radar. It basically looks like a "billboard" that can retract into the bomb-bay (and extend downwards). The B-1 is low observable (but not stealthy in that sense) and capable of Mach 1+ speed to get away.

I don't know where I posted it, but I posted it. The problem is, it doesn't have its own on board staff (ie controllers) due to the size of the bay. However, I can probably halve the size and extend the habitable area to include about eight to ten personnel and workstations.

Or I could put the array on top, which might be better...

You interested?

OOC: I did, but unfortunately my schedule is increasingly tight right now and any chance of me involving in an extended RP is questionable... and I must apologize dearly for that.
Doh. I'll later type up an IC post, and my character will request that if you can't forward it to an ally who would help.

[Adejaani, I'll think about it, but you're going to have to straighten out that situation with your board first. Keep in mind that my government (especially the military) is flying hundreds of thousands of what you claim are defective helos, they aren't very happy with that. However, if you get ADI back on its feet and straighten out the Hardhat situation, we can talk business.]

[Btw, these sensor stats are what I expect both of your aircraft to meet or beat if they want to be accepted into service with the IAF.

1) Phased array, multimode, LPI/NPI radar with a range of 425 miles against low-flying targets and longer for higher-flying targets.

2) Side-Looking Synthetic Aperature Radar (mounted in canoes along the fuselage) with a range >=200km vs large large targets and >=40km vs small vehicles.

3) IFF secondary surveillence system

4) Optical/IR/UV camera

5) Bi-static recievers for use with radar-equipped UAVs

6) And a LADAR array

If any of the proposed AEW aircraft will be able to do all that, they will have a contract with the IAF because OMASC/ADI is considered a First Tier provider, but I am not afraid to buy the aircraft that has already met this standard if none of the proposed aircraft can meet the standard.]

OOC: For the proposal to keep a SAR ground-search radar on an AWACS aircraft, keep in mind that IRL the E-10 MC2A's original status of being both AWACS and JSTARS was already scrapped due to electronic interference of the two radar systems. I also don't know about the effectiveness of putting bistatic receivers on a moving aircraft... The SAR will probably come in the JSTARS/maritime patrol version, for obvious reasons unless you would like a plane that can't really carry out both of its functions very well... With the bistatic receivers, cost will probably skyrocket as you try to bristle an AWACS aircraft (with its own radar) with passive receivers, when bi/multistatic radar systems are far more suited for placement as a ground-based AD solution.

But I'll see about the others. Shouldn't be problems there.

OOC: Since SS asked for it...

Adejaani Aerospace Inc (AAI) reforms!

Motto: You want to fly, come here to buy!

The old defunct Adejaani Government Industries, plagued with financial problems, has been bailed out by the government and now run as a private consortium. Under its original name, Adejaani Aerospace Inc, Adejaani returns to the aviation industry.

Hardhat™ deficiencies in aircraft

Concurrent with the reformation of AAI was the drastic need to examine how the old patented Hardhat™ armour system was affecting aging aircraft, plus the need to rebuild them whilst keeping the virtues and none of the vices. To this end, AAI has released the following statistics: Aircraft under ten years of age will have only a 0.00001% chance of suffering catastrophic physical failures of the airframe Aircraft above ten years of age has a roughly 5% failure rate (not including "regular" maintenance difficulties) Aircraft over fifteen years of age has a roughly 7.8% failure rate Aircraft over twenty years of age has a roughly 15% failure rateCurrently, the majority of users of AAI products have fleets that are well under this "danger zone". But nevertheless, AAI is proud to announce that Hardhat IB™ has been developed, with all the virtues and none of the vices of the original product.

AAI offers free transportation and remanufacturing of all airframes in existence with Hardhat IB™ at no cost. Current users with production rights to said aircraft will receive the dies, blueprints and composition of Hardhat IB™ at no cost for domestic production.

New export policies: Three types of aircraft

In contrast to the way that AAI has previously done business, it was decided to essentially build three versions of each AAI product, as the case may be. Note: Production rights generally negotiable!
Category 1: The less advanced aircraft, readily available to all. Equipped with standard aircraft grade aluminum, it has roughly 20% weaker performance compared to Category 2 aircraft. Production rights generally 20 million, with an additional 0.5% royalties on each aircraft thereafter.
Category 2: The "baseline" aircraft. Equipped with Hardhat IB™. Typically reserved for allies and more reliable customers. Production rights generally 60 million, plus 1% royalties thereafter.
Category 3 The advanced versions, for domestic use and only for the strongest of allies, it is not available to many people. Equipped with significantly more advanced Hardhat II™ armour, it is roughly 20-30% better in performance across the board compared to Category 2 aircraft. Production rights may be offered.How to buy (eventually): Customers must make an "I wish to buy (insert aircraft)", stating whether or not they wish production rights. After a brief period of checking, they will be allowed to purchase from one of the Categories, or their purchase order denied.

OOC: For the proposal to keep a SAR ground-search radar on an AWACS aircraft, keep in mind that IRL the E-10 MC2A's original status of being both AWACS and JSTARS was already scrapped due to electronic interference of the two radar systems. I also don't know about the effectiveness of putting bistatic receivers on a moving aircraft... The SAR will probably come in the JSTARS/maritime patrol version, for obvious reasons unless you would like a plane that can't really carry out both of its functions very well... With the bistatic receivers, cost will probably skyrocket as you try to bristle an AWACS aircraft (with its own radar) with passive receivers, when bi/multistatic radar systems are far more suited for placement as a ground-based AD solution.

But I'll see about the others. Shouldn't be problems there.

[Well, I don't imagine you'd have a reason to operate the SAR and primary radar at the same time anyway. As for the bistatic recievers, from what I understand of the E-3 upgrade proposal one apiece is to be mounted on the wings and the UAVs would be used to extend effective radar range and triangulate the position of low-RCS objects.]

OOC: Question, SS... Do you want a crew on this AEW? As I said, I can do it on a B-1 frame. If you don't want crew, you run the risk of jamming, but I can do everything and more you need. Like AWACS, ground surveilance and basically do everything the current range of US um... E and R series do. You can then put your staff on the ground somewhere.

If you want crew... I might have to up the size of the thing and lessen some capabilities.

[Well, I don't imagine you'd have a reason to operate the SAR and primary radar at the same time anyway.
OOC: The problem is that not only is each sensor going to disrupt the other, but also that you are needlessly increasing the aircraft's total cost considering the extra electrical equipment, etc. needed to give the aircraft both AWACS and JSTARS-like capabilities. If you are not using both at the same time at all, then it would only make sense to put them into two separate, distinct airframes.

As for the bistatic recievers, from what I understand of the E-3 upgrade proposal one apiece is to be mounted on the wings and the UAVs would be used to extend effective radar range and triangulate the position of low-RCS objects.]
I for one, personally doubt that it will be terribly effective. Not impossible, but it is better just to rely on ground-based sensors to do this instead of taking up room in the aircraft that should be allocated to a dedicated air search AESA radar. In this instance, "jack of all trades, master of none" is true.

[Well, if you believe two airframes would be the better solution, I guess I don't have too much of a problem with that.

As the BSRs, I can't imagine the USAF putting something like that on an E-3 if it wouldn't work. They may deploy exceedingly expensive systems, but they almost always work. I will agree that bistatic radars have their place in static air defense systems, they can also be used in AEW aircraft to keep enemy stealth fighters from jumping friendly CAPs.]

OOC: I'll see to it with additional research, though an airship shouldn't be too terrible of a platform for putting bistatic receivers on.

EDIT: Also, just for clarification, both versions will have the standard LADAR and IR arrays. The major difference is that the LADAR on the JSTARS version will be much more suited for detecting and identifying ground targets.

OOC: I can't do this AEW... I can do it physically, but the electronics suite will be barely better than average. I could still do the basic airframe and SS, you put your own electronics suite on it...

[Ade: This presents a problem, as I don't actually have any AEW equipment that I can call my own and I have no idea how to actually develop it.

Omz: The thought just came to me, although I'm sure you've already considered it in light of one of my requirements, but in order for the bi-static recievers to function you're going to have to developed AEW UAVs. Should be a first.]

OOC: That's why I said 'I'll see to it', since the AEW UAV probably won't be a first priority project and will likely be passed on as a future development for a modified E-380 version.

OOC: I should reclarify. I can do the AEW function. No sweat at all. However, it's this JSTARs/Rivet Joint, basically the whole ground management function that's giving me worries.

As my proposed design goes, it's going to be a B-1 with an enlarged cockpit/crew area. Three crew (pilot, copilot, navigator); and eight to ten systems operators. At the back will be two (2) retractable, paperback novel like items which will be lowered from the bomb bay. One will be the AEW, the other the ground surveilance stuff.

And I can't do the ground surveilance stuff well. But for the AEW, virtually done already.

OOC: Why not? Seeing the reform of AAI, some competition would be very interesting... and this time I am actually thinking about losing.

OOC: Literal, (IC) technical issues. I know beans about air-ground surveilance because I simply don't understand the principles. I at least understand that air search radar stuff because I understand enough to be able to make up stuff which sounds like it might work. Same with the stealth and all my little fancy designs.

But not air-ground. It's just a total grey area for me. And I can't bluff something I don't pretend to understand, that's the simple bit.

OOC: A policy update. As of right now, production licenses of munitions will only be available to the closest allies and trading partners of the Omzian Republic, and will no longer be available for others. For those in Woodstock, the reason for this is quite obvious; though I must admit that in spite of the event the new SAMs and AAMs won't get a new revision.

RIM-506G Flamearrow II Ultra-Long Range Naval SAM
Length: 11.2m with rocket booster
Diameter: 0.85m
Weight: 5200kg
Guidance: Inertial with active ELPI radar (with home-on-jam and home-on-emission modes) and imaging IR at terminal, datalink with AWACS or ship-based combat engagement system
Propulsion: Rocket booster with ducted rocket-ramjet with throttle control and 3D TVC, gas-based nozzle flight maneuver system
Speed: Mach 6.8
Range and Altitude: 650km (high altitude), 150,000ft aircraft, 230,000ft guided missile
Warhead: 190kg warhead (HE or 32x flechette-like darts)
Carriage: 2x in CSJ Mk.127b VLS, 1x in FDI Mk.72 Strategic
Sale Cost: $8 million per missile (customers with CSJ and/or FDI made vessels only)
An upgrade of the existing Flamearrow, this design was quickly conceived and completed following the broadcast of hostilities against a Woodstock Pact nation by another nation that possesses a variety of OMASC-designed munitions. When compared to the Flamearrow, the Flamearrow II possesses greater speed, maneuverability, range, engagement altitude, as well as improved guidance. As well, unlike the original Flamearrow the Flamearrow II has an improved datalinking system, allowing the extensive use of "silent SAM" tactics as well as lock-on-after-launch modes, where the missile would be guided through passive means for a period of time during its flight. The guidance are also improved passive-wise, with a series of modifications to give it an ad-hoc capability against targets employing active ECM, while bearing improved capabilities against aircraft employing LPI radars as well as a mean of targeting stealthy aircraft.
Customers with existing Flamearrow I licenses (of course, with the exception of nations under sanction) will be able to acquire the ones for the Flamearrow II at no cost.

RIM-506H Firearrow II Intermediate Range Naval SAM
Length: 6.9m with rocket booster
Diameter: 0.62m
Weight: 2100kg
Guidance: Inertial with active LPI radar (with home-on-jam and home-on-emission modes) and imaging IR at terminal, possible datalink with AWACS or ship-based combat engagement system
Propulsion: Rocket booster with ducted rocket-ramjet with throttle control and 3D TVC, gas-based nozzle flight maneuver system
Speed: Mach 6.5
Range and Altitude: 460km (high altitude), 140,000ft aircraft, 200,000ft guided missile
Warhead: 100kg warhead (HE or 22x flechette-like darts)
Carriage: 3x in CSJ Mk.127b, 8x in FDI Mk.72 Strategic, 2x in FDI Mk.72 Tactical
Sale Cost: $8 million per missile (customers with CSJ and/or FDI made vessels only)

RIM-506I Foxarrow II Medium Range and Missile Defence Naval SAM
Length: 6m with rocket booster
Diameter: 0.4m
Weight: 900kg
Guidance: Inertial with active LPI radar (with home-on-jam and home-on-emission modes) and imaging IR at terminal, possible datalink with AWACS or ship-based combat engagement system
Propulsion: Rocket booster with ducted rocket-ramjet with throttle control and 3D TVC, gas-based nozzle flight maneuver system
Speed: Mach 6
Range and Altitude: 300km, 80,000ft aircraft, 120,000ft guided missile
Warhead: 50kg warhead (HE or 6x flechette-like darts)
Carriage: 16x in CSJ Mk.127b, 18x in FDI Mk.72 Strategic, 4x in FDI Mk.72 Tactical
Sale Cost: $4 million per missile

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New Upgrades for "F-Dart" Air Defence Missiles

MIM-506J Flamedart II Ultra-Long Range SAM
Length: 9.2m with rocket booster
Diameter: 0.92m
Weight: 5300kg
Guidance: Inertial with Track-Via-Missile guidance, LPI active radar (with home-on-jam modes) and imaging IR at terminal; datalinking with AWACS possible
Propulsion: Ducted rocket-ramjet with throttle control and 3D TVC, gas-based nozzle flight maneuver system, and rocket booster
Speed: Mach 7.2
Range and Altitude: 650km (high altitude), 170,000ft aircraft, 240,000ft guided missile
Warhead: 200kg warhead (HE or 28x flechette-like darts)
Carriage: 2x per "Eaglenest" TELs (4x TEL per fire section / 8x TELs per battery)
Sensors and Control: "Coppertail-ER" multifunction LPI radar, "Greenail-ER" long range target acquisition and tracking radar (optional), "Citadel" Engagement Control Centre; options for datalink to other platforms (including ELINT, bistatic radar, IR and LADAR sensors)
Cost: $10 million per missile; $500 million per battery set (close allies only, no exceptions)

MIM-506K Firedart II Long Range SAM
Length: 7.8m with rocket booster
Diameter: 0.72m
Weight: 2600kg
Guidance: Inertial with Track-Via-Missile guidance, LPI active radar (with home-on-jam modes) and imaging IR at terminal; datalinking with AWACS possible
Propulsion: Ducted rocket-ramjet with throttle control and 3D TVC, gas-based nozzle flight maneuver system, and rocket booster
Speed: Mach 6.5
Range and Altitude: 480km (high altitude), 120,000ft aircraft, 160,000ft guided missile
Warhead: 150kg warhead (HE or 16x flechette-like darts)
Carriage: 4x per "Falconest" or custom TELs (4x TEL per fire section / 8x TELs per battery); 6x per "Vanguard" TEL (for defence of fixed targets; 6x TELs per fire section)
Sensors and Control: "Coppertail" multifunction LPI radar, "Greenail" long range target acquisition and tracking radar (optional), "Citadel" Engagement Control Centre; options for datalink to other platforms (including ELINT, bistatic radar, IR and LADAR sensors)
Cost: $8 million per missile; $450 million per battery set (close allies only, no exceptions)

MIM-506L Foxdart II Medium Range and Missile Defence SAM
Length: 6.9m with rocket booster
Diameter: 0.28m
Weight: 720kg
Guidance: Inertial with Track-Via-Missile guidance, LPI active radar (with home-on-jam mode) and imaging IR at terminal; datalinking with AWACS possible
Propulsion: Ducted rocket-ramjet with throttle control and 3D TVC, gas-based nozzle flight maneuver system, and rocket booster
Speed: Mach 5.5
Range and Altitude: 200km, 80,000ft aircraft, 100,000ft guided missile
Warhead: 36kg warhead (HE or 5x flechette-like darts)
Carriage (Firedart Launch System): 16x per "Falconest" or custom TELs (4x missile per cell for 1x Firedart missile); 24x per "Vanguard" TEL
Carriage (Independent Launch System): 6x per "Turtle" tracked TEL (5x TEL per fire section / 10x TELs per battery)
Sensors and Control (Firedart Launch System): "Coppertail" multifunction LPI radar, "Greenail" long range target acquisition and tracking radar (optional), "Citadel" Engagement Control Centre; options for datalink to other platforms (including ELINT, bistatic radar, IR and LADAR sensors)
Sensors and Control (Independent Launch System): "Fryray" self-propelled multifunction LPI radar, "Clamshell" self-propelled engagement control center
Cost: $3 million per missile; $350 million per independent battery set (close allies only, no exceptions)

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AIM-508B Starshield II New Short Range Air-to-Air Missile
Length: 2.5m
Diameter: 0.17m
Finspan: 0.20m
Weight: 82kg
Guidance: Inertial with wide boresight, high-resolution dual waveband imaging infrared guidance with decoy recongition capabilities; proximity fuze or hit-to-kill
Propulsion: Solid fuel rocket
Speed: Mach 3.5 peak
Range: 300m minimum, 36km max
Warhead: 7.6kg blast-fragmentation
Cost: $250,000 unit, $350,000 sale price

AGM/AIM-509B Starfall II New Intermediate Range Dual Function Missile
Length: 3.68m
Diameter: 0.2m
Finspan: 0.4m
Weight: 200kg
Guidance: GPS-aided inertial with eLPI radar and backup imaging infrared with two-way datalink; radar with lock-on-after-launch, home-on-jam, home-on-ARC and home-on-emission capabilities
Propulsion: Ducted 'rocket-ramjet' engine with throttle control
Speed: Mach 4.8 peak
Range: 200km air attack, 250km ground attack (direct flight profile)
Warhead: 27kg HE or five flechette-like darts
Cost: $850,000 unit, $1,000,000 sale

AIM-510B Starshell II New Long Range Air-to-Air Missile
Length: 3.7m
Diameter: 0.38m
Finspan: 0.8m
Weight: 500kg
Guidance: Inertial with LPI radar with backup imaging infrared and EO with two-way datalink; radar with lock-on-after-launch, home-on-jam, and home-on-emission capabilities
Propulsion: Ducted 'rocket-ramjet' engine with throttle control
Speed: Mach 6 peak
Range: 300km depending on launching aircraft, against bomber or AWACS; 200km against maneuverable tactical aircraft
Warhead: 47kg HE or twelve flechette-like darts
Cost: $1,200,000 unit, $2,000,000 sale

AIM-511B Starburst II New Extremely Long Range Air-to-Air Missile
Length: 6.8m
Diameter: 0.47m
Finspan: 0.9m
Weight: 920kg
Guidance: Inertial with LPI radar with backup imaging infrared and EO with two-way datalink; radar with lock-on-after-launch, home-on-jam, and home-on-emission capabilities
Propulsion: Ducted 'rocket-ramjet' engine with throttle control
Speed: Mach 6.2 peak
Range: 600km
Warhead: 56kg HE or eighteen flechette-like darts
Cost: $2,300,000 unit, $3,200,000 sale

[Obviously I'd like to update my inventory, so what is the cost? Also, what's this situation you speak of?]

[OOC: Id be willing to throw together a picture for OMASC/NDI's version of the EW/AWAC. No offense to Adejaani (I love the new motto btw) but I have more experience with OMASC than AAI. Though it would be nice if I could eventually be able to purchase some in the end, Id be willing to throw in my Thermofiber material concept as well if youd like.].

[OOC: Id be willing to throw together a picture for OMASC/NDI's version of the EW/AWAC. No offense to Adejaani (I love the new motto btw) but I have more experience with OMASC than AAI. Though it would be nice if I could eventually be able to purchase some in the end, Id be willing to throw in my Thermofiber material concept as well if youd like.].

OOC: Of course, I would be appreciative of the contributions that the Mekugi aeronautical companies can make, and don't be surprised if you receive the production license for the aircraft :p

[Obviously I'd like to update my inventory, so what is the cost? Also, what's this situation you speak of?]
OOC: At zero cost. The situation right now in Woodstock is an internal one, but I feel that it is in OMASC's best interests to issue upgraded versions of the aforementioned munitions for security reasons.

OOC: Literal, (IC) technical issues. I know beans about air-ground surveilance because I simply don't understand the principles. I at least understand that air search radar stuff because I understand enough to be able to make up stuff which sounds like it might work. Same with the stealth and all my little fancy designs.

But not air-ground. It's just a total grey area for me. And I can't bluff something I don't pretend to understand, that's the simple bit.
Well, quite frankly, I don't see why you shouldn't be able to understand the principles when you already came up with some pretty interesting ideas with other types of radars. I trust that with some bits of additional research you could come up with a good JSTARS as well.

[OOC: then your in luck! well sort of, it may take a few days but I have an idea for quite a nice AWACS/AEW airframe.]

[Omz, I realize I'm flooding you with projects, but I have one other idea I've been meaning to share with you, and Mekugi if he wants to become involved. Basically what I had in mind is a deep-strike light fighter-bomber in the tradition of the Nighthawk. Yes, I realize that stealth isn't as valued here as IRL, but I'm going to purchase a book called Radar Cross Sections, 2nd Edition. It will have some pretty detailed information on RCS and RCS Reduction methods, if what I've read from other books by the same publisher are any indication. That should give us some rock solid ways to design a stealth strike aircraft able to penetrate NS defenses and hit strategic targets.]

OOC: I'll see as the source material (i.e. book) gets into your hands, but this is a project that I am very interested to hear about... I personally have source materials about stealth and the likes as well, but mine was published in 2001 by someone working for Janes.

[Well, I won't get it until my Christmas shopping is done, but once it is the book will be my first priority. Actually, it'll be in PDF format, so I'll be able to send the chapters to you over e-mail.

EDIT: Also, if you're interested, I have access to a manual about materials used in aerspace engineering.]

OOC: That's interesting to hear. The F-109 upgrades will likely be done the weekend after this week, and the B-110 writeup and AWACS hopefully before Christmas...

OOC: Also, TSS, if you are reading this then be aware that (unlike previous conceived) unfortunately I cannot recall that I sold you the Flamearrow licenses/technology. Apologies for any previous confusion caused:

OOC: Just a note, the two former are really for customers with vessels produced by the two aforementioned nations/contractors only, and this is especially true with the Flamearrow where the long-range engagement capability requires the systems. However, if you want, I can provide the Firearrow and Foxarrow for $80 billion for the missiles, and an additional $2 billion if you want to convert all of your vessels' systems (with whatever air engagement systems you have, i.e. AEGIS) to fire the Firearrow. The conversion will be of course, done by OMASC.

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OMASC/NDI Formally Announces Arms Sanction Against The Silver Sky

OSARIA (OFN) - Today during a news conference within the compounds of OMASC/NDI's headquarters, senior officials and other members of the management board of OMASC/NDI has officially and formally confirmed the existence of an arms sanction against the nation of The Silver Sky. Though reasons are still unclear, observers hinted a series of internal conflicts within Woodstock as the primary source, while also highlighting the fact that the official announcement came just after the official announcement that Silver Sky National Armaments has enacted a similar arms sanction against the Omzian Republic.

If the announcements are indeed true, then it is the first instance where Omzian weaponry designs and equipment had fallen into the hands of a potential advesary, with which the ties have been severed after an embittered internal dispute within Woodstock that many Omzian officials are still reluctant to discuss about in public. However, nevertheless OMASC engineers and personnel were able to quickly generate newer upgrades for the "compromised" models of munition and other weaponry that fell into the hands of the Silver Sky, including improved variants of various air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles, among other things.

It is believed that the sanctions will lengthen indefinitely, and probably forever if the Silver Sky has chosen to break the terms outlined by the sanction, such as the continued production of Omzian munitions under licenses.

Oh man, you aint given out production rights anymore. Heh, you know I wouldn't turn to the dark side..... J/k. :lol: :p

I'll make large order of your new missile tomorrow when I get some time. You've been a very busy elf, Omz. :p

OOC: I admit that I have made a mistake, and despite the fact that I trust you very much, I can't play double-standard by refusing to sell to any other members of Woodstock. Sorry 'bout that - but the recent events really made an impression on the OMASC/NDI management staff.

At the same time, I don't want to play the absurd "we have antitampering device lololol" or the "magick self-burning missile schematics" or any of that kind of crap, hence why I made new missile models. Actually, it'd be interesting since this is the first time that Omzian munition designs (or for the matter, Omzian designs in general) have fallen into the hands of a potential IC adversary, which in itself is a tricky situation for OMASC/NDI.

[http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10089501

I normally don't plug my posts in other people's threads, but I did reference Omz' generous gift a couple times.]

OOC: Ah, sorry about that, I saw Flamearrow in the post, so as always, my brain didn't think. :p

No problem Omz. I fully understand. :) Its better to be safe than sorry.

Before I put in my order I would like to see if I would be cleared to buy these following weapons:

*MIM-506J Flamedart II Ultra-Long Range SAMS (10 million)
*MIM-506K Firedart II Long-Range SAMS $8 million
*MIM-506L Foxdart II Medium (Intermediate)-Range SAMS $3 million
AIM-508B Starshield II $350,000
AIM-509B Starfall II $1 million
AIM-510B Starshell II $2 million
AIM-511B Starburst II $3.2 million
BGM-503B Arquebus II Long Range Cruise Missile $6 million
AGM-518A Triton Long Range Air-Launched Ballistic Missile $16 million
RGM-356C Hailstorm-C Ultraheavy Hypersonic Attack Missile $9.2 million
BGM-502 Longaxe Medium Range Cruise Missile $4.5 million
AGM/RGM/UGM-321G Meteor-G Multiplatform Heavy Antiship Missile $6.5
RGM-355H Meteor-H Surface-Launched Ultraheavy Antiship Missile $8.6
*RF-105 Intercontinental Cruise Missile $58 million

NOTE: The ones with star, I'm not sure of. The first three ones require a launcher and had something next to it. Is that the launcher? Also the last one, is it released to the public yet? Also I think you switched that one's price with the RF-102 since this is so much better yet is less than the other one in price. Just to let you know ;)

Thanks :) Also yes I know I repeated a couple of the stuff because I was too lazy to check if I had already bought them. But I'm pretty sure I got them right.

OOC: Ah, sorry about that, I saw Flamearrow in the post, so as always, my brain didn't think. :p
OOC: No hard feelings.

SU: All except the RF-105 (and maybe the Meteor-H, since they can only be used pretty much on ships that it was designed for) are cleared, since we are still not quire comfortable in selling ICCMs to anyone but close allies (sorry 'bout that). With the SAMs of course, don't forget to buy the battery set, which includes extra stuff like launchers, radars, power supply, control vehicles, etc. etc. etc. For the Meteor-H, OMASC/NDI will sell it if you have naval vessels that can accommodate a +20m long missile.

OOC: Omz222, you have a TG.

OOC: No hard feelings.

SU: All except the RF-105 (and maybe the Meteor-H, since they can only be used pretty much on ships that it was designed for) are cleared, since we are still not quire comfortable in selling ICCMs to anyone but close allies (sorry 'bout that). With the SAMs of course, don't forget to buy the battery set, which includes extra stuff like launchers, radars, power supply, control vehicles, etc. etc. etc. For the Meteor-H, OMASC/NDI will sell it if you have naval vessels that can accommodate a +20m long missile.

No problem :) As for the SAMs batteries, how many can each battery hold? I will be buying them but I need to see how many I will need. Also for the Meteor-H, my Couragous-Class SDN could hold them but I'll have to check with Sarzonia about the other naval vessals that I have (my battleship and battlecruisers). I'll get back to you on that. :) Thanks a bunch and I'll file my order later tonight.

For the SAMs, all the information about how many missiles a launcher can hold, etc. are in the descriptions. How much a battery can launch at maximum capacity, it depends on how many launchers makes up a battery.

The Confederacy of Sniper Country, if accepted, requests the following units for the Sniper Country Air Forces:

(256) F-14G Tomcat Plus [$33,280,000,000]*
(12) B-105A Skyhammer [$10,800,000,000]
(6) E-7 Chessmaster [$720,000,000]

TOTAL: $44,800,000,000

*We ask that this total be paid in increments of $5,000,000,000 per month over the next seven months, with the final payment of $3,280,000,000 in the seventh month. If this payment plan is not acceptable, please let us know so that we can make any necessary adjustments. With this in mind, we are willing to pay the sum of the B-105A Skyhammer and E-7 Chessmaster now, along with the first month’s payment on the F-14G Tomcat Plus. We are ready to wire said funds, totaling $16,520,000,000, upon confirmation of said order.

-CGN Mark Spitz
SCAF, Commanding

To: CGN Mark Spitz, SCAF, Commanding
From: Colonel-General (Ret.) Joranoz, OMASC/NDI Sales Board

Though we are well aware of our past interactions with the country of Sniper Country, we are nevertheless exultant at the prospect of having the aforementioned nation as one of our newest customers. While concerns about the export of the B-105A, which is a heavy bomber that is technically not for general export, was raised within the sales and administration staff, in the end we feel that it is in our best interests to approve the order. We have no problems with the said payment plan, as we usually prefer customers transferring the sums of money in installments, for sake of simplicity and ease of management.

It is hoped that the production of the B-105s will be completed within two months, and after flight testings and evaluations, will be delivered within three months; the E-7 however, will probably be constructed in Adejaani manufacturing facilities and will likely be delivered within a few months. The F-14Gs of course, would require a longer period of time to manufacture and deliver, but we are hoping that the last aircraft will be sent to Sniper Country about twelve months from now. Spare parts and technical support in the form of advisors will be included, free of charge.

Once again, we would like to convey our extreme gratitude and appreciation for the attention and interest received from the humble nation of Sniper Country, and it is our best hope that OMASC/NDI can be privileged enough to make further deals with the nation of Sniper Country in the future.

We do appreciate the kindness administered by OMASC/NDI.

The first wire transfer should be going through as we speak. In the future, we may plan on phasing out the current F-14D SuperTomcat and replacing them all with the F-14G Tomcat Plus. The B-105A will be placed in its own flight, probably in another Bomber Wing with B-52s. However, we are reworking our current B-36B, and hope to have it upgraded sufficiently to be at least a near-match for the B-105A.

The Commander of the Air Forces, Master-General Aubrey Gilmer, has expressed his intentions of keeping the B-52H Stratofortress active for many years to come, but is looking to upgrade all of them to an upgraded version. You wouldn't happen to still carry any of the Superfortress upgrades, would you? I presume these may be obsolete in your nation's Air Forces.

Again, we are very appreciative of your help in rebuilding our Air Forces, and overall Armed Forces.

-CGN Mark Sptiz
SCAF, Commanding

OOC: Sorry 'bout the OOC post, but a B-52 upgrade seems like an interesting project, though admittingly I'm a little busy and that can only come after around a week. If you want though, I can offer you the sale of a reasonable number of the B-110s I'm going to type out a writeup for, but I also wouldn't have problems in doing a B-52 upgrade that will integrate newer engines, sensors, and maybe other extras as well.

OOC: Alright, FYI SS, the F-109 and the AWACS/JSTARS are all finished in terms of technical data. Writeup should be done around Monday, and I'll release it then.

[Thanks for the heads up]

F-109D Seafury Carrier-Based Multirole Fighter
Length: 21.8m
Height: 5.8m
Wingspan: 15.1m
Propulsion: Two Hongaz Electrics "Surefire" turbofans, each with 46,800lbs of thrust
Empty Weight: 20,100kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 47,900kg
Crew: 2
Ceiling: +70,000ft
Range: 6800km ferry, 1800km combat radius
Speed: Mach 2.7 maximum, Mach 1.6 supercruise
Armaments: One 27mm cannon, plus 12,000kg of payload in one weapons bay, two conformal near-engine nozzle hardpoints, four inboard underwing hardpoints, four outer underwing hardpoints, and two wingtip hardpoints
Main Weapon Bays (Each): 7x MRAAM, 6x MRAAM & 2x SRAAM, 3x LRAAM & 2x MRAAM, 3x LRAAM & 4x SRAAM, 3x 1000lb munition & 2x MRAAM, 2x 2000lb munition & 2x MRAAM, 5x 500lb munition & 3x MRAAM, 12x 250lb munition & 3x MRAAM, 1x Roundel and 2x SRAAMs
External Hardpoints (Conformal): 2x MRAAM, 1x MRAAM & 2x SRAAM, 2x 500lb munitions
External Hardpoints (Wingtip): 1x SRAAM or 1x MRAAM (former is more typical in air superiority missions)
External Hardpoints (Outboard): 1x MRAAM, 2x MRAAM (inner two only), 1x LRAAM (inner two only), 1x 1000lb munition, 1x 500lb munition, 3x 250lb munition, 1x anti-ship missile (Harpoon class - inner ones only)
External Hardpoints (Inboard): 1x ELRAAM, 1x Roundel, 1x LRAAM, 3x MRAAM, 3x 1000lb munition, 2x 2000lb munition, 6x 500lb munition, 1x 3000-5000lb munition, 12x 250lb munition, 1x fuel tank & 1x MRAAM
Unit Cost: $120 million
Export Cost: $150 million (close allies only)

Introduction
The F-109D Seafury, as part of the overall upgrade program of existing Omzian Air Force and Navy fighters, is OMASC/NDI's newest combat aircraft that is ready to take the skies in its fullest glory. Though by name it is a development of the older F-109A Seafire, it is vastly different skin-deep, incorporating several new features and characteristics that not only readies it for the next generation of NS air combat, but also ensures that it will be able to serve in both Omzian and foreign militaries for many decades to come. Stating that it is simply an upgrade of an existing multirole fighter is an understatement, for it is a next-generation aircraft carrier-based combat aircraft that is able to fulfill a countless number of tasks with the same brutal effectiveness.

Design and Physical Characteristics
Airframe
When compared to the older F-109A, one of the first things that many people will immediately notice is its much larger and more visually sound layout. However, this is not the only thing to the F-109D's new airframe - in fact. Upon a first inspection, one may find this to be curiously similar to the layouts of the Rafale or even the Eurofighter Typhoon, but upon a closer inspection there are also numerous differences. It sports a pair of large wings that are delta-like in their shape, but with the rear edges being slightly more angled forwards to give it improved handling characteristics and a smaller RCS. Along with RAM applied, special electrochromic panels are also fitted, which has the traditional role of helping the aircraft to evade IR-guided weapons by means of altering its IR signature outlines. Small optical nodes, tied to special cameras situated nearby, also dot across the wings to serve as a form of optical camouflage, helping the aircraft's colour scheme to better blend into either the blue sky or the dark ground, depends on the mission profile. It is also mission-adaptable, which means that with the help with an internal mechanism, the basic form of the wings can be altered to allow maximum performance in different missions involving different flight profiles. In the meanwhile, a pair of wide "vee tails" (called so because they are arranged in a V shape) proceeds after the main wings. A pair of large intakes in the meanwhile, dominate the position just below the main wing roots, each with a fearsome-looking ramp designed to control the airflow into the engine to allow it to achieve high velocities, despite doing so at the cost of RCS. Forward of the aircraft, a pair of reasonably sized all-moving canards is mounted forwards, while a refueling probe protrudes nearby. The cockpit is fairly retracted, and so are the engine nozzles. Since the airframe is naturally unstable aerodynamically, an advanced flight-by-optics system is utilized as part of the integrated flight control system, providing provisions for excellent responsiveness and easy handling in combat maneuvers. All in all, though the focus of the airframe design is mainly on speed and performance in a variety of roles, the airframe by itself allows the aircraft to be propelled to a fairly high speed, while also providing great maneuverability and a fair RCS reduction when compared to other aircraft of similar size.

In terms of construction materials, as with traditional aircraft composites and metal alloys are the calls of the day. Despite this however, due to the shift towards speed, titanium alloys are more commonly utilized to give the aircraft a fair physical strength and better tolerance of frictional heat at high speeds. The application of such alloys, along with other aluminum and nickel alloys, is especially frequent at the airframe's forward sections, and in total accounts for around 51% of the aircraft's total weight. On the other hand however, the utilization of advanced composites and ceramics is also fairly widespread, giving it excellent strength yet still retaining its light weight. Finally, the F-109D is also the first Omzian aircraft to utilize newer thermoplastics, which in all accounts for around 3% of the aircraft's construction. On the outside, an ample quantity of RAM is applied; in other high-RCS areas, even advanced sandwiched RAS is applied, allowing the aircraft to reduce its RCS in a fair fashion while still retaining its much higher speed. In critical areas such as the cockpit, fuel tanks, and engines, a light kevlar/ceramic sandwiched armour layer is applied to provide basic protection against light shrapnel.

Normally, standard paint schemes include a light blue-coloured, low reflection scheme for high altitude and air superiority operations; in squadrons specialised for interdiction and ground attack operations, a more effective green-blue-brown camouflage is utilized as the scheme. To discourage contrails at high altitudes, a tail-mounted chemical-based contrail suppression system is utilized.

Propulsion
The aircraft, like its predecessor, utilizes a pair of turbofans due to their reliability and efficiency. On the other hand however, the ones utilized in the F-109D are much more powerful, and in some respects more reliable and better suited for supercruise as well. Each of these "surefire" turbofans can produce an astonishing 46,800 pounds of afterburning thrust, and moving parts are relatively few when compared to those of the older engine to improve accessibility on the ground and reliability in general. Each of them is enclosed in a lightly armoured shroud that also bears numerous fire-prevention design features, while the engines themselves are regulated by digital controls in the event of any unwanted occurrences. The engines in flight are provided with an ample quantity of air through the large intakes, important for high-speed operations; on the other hand, the nozzles incorporate 3D thrust vectoring to give it improved performance in high-speed operations and better maneuverability in low-speed operations. The control of the TVC is tied directly to the flight control system to ensure maximum coordination. In addition to this, the nozzle designs also guarantee improved heat dissipation and other features to reduce its IR signature when not undergoing afterburning.

Each of these two engines are then connected to the ten large internal fuel tanks, in addition to the two large semi-external conformal fuel tanks, in the aircraft, each storing the right quantity of fuel to give it a fair range and endurance. They are surrounded by a light armouring scheme to provide protection against light shrapnel and damage, and are directly tied to the aircraft's internal Halon-based firefighting system through the use of advanced computerized IR/UV sensors. In addition, fuel can be also acquired through the refueling probe and booms, an operation that is eased for the pilot through a special optional autopilot system fitted onto the flight control system (though the system must be used in conjunction with special Omzian refuelers fitted with the same system). It can also take fuel from external fuel tanks, each of which are designed to be low-RCS, blending comfortably into the aircraft's sleek contours while RAM is applied throughout its body.

Crew Operations
Among the changes, the F-109D now features two crewmembers, to increase combat efficiency and fully extends the aircraft's lethality in both air superiority and ground interdiction missions. Similarly, a new cockpit design is needed to give these two powerful biological brains comfort and accessibility. For both the pilot and the WSO, there are five high-resolution colour touchscreen displays, each being a further development of the standard multifunction displays seen in many NS aircraft today. It is directly tied to the aircraft's avionics, giving both the pilot and WSO great situational awareness and ease of operations, by merely operating the screens with their own hands. This is supplemented by another four smaller 16-colour LCD status indicator displays for the pilot, and two of the same display for the WSO. A wide-angle four-colour HUD is fitted for the pilot, displaying both flight information and target cues. This is contrary to the helmet mounted sights, which equip both crewmembers. Unlike those in older aircraft, the one for the pilot is designed to complement the HUD. HOTAS are available for both the pilot and the WSO. In the case of the WSO it is an emergency backup measure, though the buttons on the controls is nevertheless normally used for controlling the displays. Zero-zero ejection seats are also fitted, suited for high-G, emergency ejections.

Along with this, the cockpit is tied directly to the aircraft's advanced communications, navigations, and datalinking system. A GPS-aided laser-ring gyro INS system is utilized for the basic task of navigation, while the cockpit itself is positioned so that both crewmembers have an exceptional view of the aircraft's outside environment. Secure radio and satellite communication systems are fitted, along with an advanced flight-wide line-of-sight laser communication system for wingman-to-wingman communication during radio silence. However, the centerpiece of the aircraft's communication system is the advanced Linkfox-ER. This advanced datalinking system, which is a successor of the original Linkfox, allows the aircraft to exchange a wide range of information and other data with other platforms, including but not limited to aircraft, surface ships, and even unmanned weapons. Tactically, it allows the individual crewmembers of aircraft in an entire flight to check each others' aircraft's status and other data, permitting close coordination while also allowing individual aircraft in a formation to fly several hundreds meters to kilometers away from each other. It also allows them to coordinate the engagement of enemy aerial and ground targets, assuring maximum efficiency in a BVR duel or ground strike missions alike. Finally, and most importantly, it allows the sharing of targeting information for both air and ground targets, simplifying their engagement, especially against stealthy targets and aircraft utilizing advanced active radar cancellation systems, nullifying their effects.

In addition, future developments also include an advanced helmet-mounted sight to completely replace the coloured HUD, and a full-fledged voice control system that will allow the pilot to carry out simple, non-critical functions solely through the breeding of an airy word.

Avionics Systems
Offensive Avionics
Just like the aircraft's physical construction, similarly it also bristles with a wide range and array of avionics systems. Most noticeable of these are the ones geared for offensive tasks, meaning that they will be the ones used by the aircraft to accomplish its tasks and missions in the empty air, at sea, and against the ground. The first of this array of sensors is the aircraft's radar, Noran System's NPR-558 "Multiplex-ERII" multipurpose eLPI (extended-LPI) radar. Consisting essentially a large antennae situated in the Seafury's large nose, it is connected to a computer which in turn allows it to track a variety of targets over a distance of five hundred kilometers, with the detection range for large fighters in the range of 350km. In addition to possessing advanced frequency hopping and other stealthy capabilities, its frequency cycle rate also allow it to counter even the most advanced active radar cancellation system mounted on tactical aircraft, and possesses a wide range of other capabilities against radar jamming of various forms. When tied to the integrated fire control system, it has an extensive target identification capability, reportedly being able in even distinguishing the different variants of the same aircraft. This capability is further assisted by its target engagement capabilities, being able to track "more than three hundred" aircraft whilst targeting and engaging up to forty. Finally, it doubles as an electronic disruption system, by concentrating high-energy beams against enemy ground-based radar and even communication transmitters and/or receivers, giving it a self-defence capability against enemy radars even when not armed with dedicated anti-radar missiles. In terms of ground attack and navigation capabilities, it is fairly precise, and is fully capable in detecting, tracking, and tracking ground targets, while helping to aim "dumb" bombs through CCIP and CCRP bombing modes. Due to its carrier-based nature, the radar is especially optimized for anti-ship operations, being able to target and even identify naval vessels, while providing the necessary targeting data needed by its onboard anti-ship missiles.

In addition to this, the "Crowtail" rear-facing ELPI radar is also fitted, to give the aircraft a limited rear-attack capability as well as warning the pilot of enemy fighters that may be sneaking up behind the aircraft. It is fairly small and is likewise limited in its capabilities, and is mounted in a pod aft of the aircraft's weapons bay, possessing a range of "over one hundred and fifty kilometers" against large fighters.

This is not to say however, that the radar is the only sensor. The second "line of offence" is the "Gulleye-ER" air-to-air imaging IRST system, which is a dedicated passive air-to-air infrared system designed to detect and target enemy aircraft (and to an extent, ground targets as well, though the capabilities for such role is very limited) without resorting to active electromagnetic emissions. It is highly precise and sensitive, and can detect aircraft by its IR signature over a range of one hundred and twenty kilometers, especially when the target is traveling at high speeds. A special pulse laser rangefinder allows it to determine the target's range and can even identify the target to a limited extent by its class (i.e. subsonic attack aircraft or supersonic bombers). The "Needlehole-ER" pulse LADAR system, which is mounted in a pod aft of the frontal radar, also supplements the IRST system. It is an advanced LADAR designed for both air and ground operations, and though handicapped by a limited range as well as atmospheric factors, it in turn is a versatile solution in detecting aircraft utilizing extensive stealth characteristics. Its ability to transmit signals in pulses allow it to complicate the enemy's ability to fully home on the source of the signal, and when used against ground targets, it can provide a high-resolution mapping capability.

In terms of ground attack, the aircraft has other dedicated sensors that are especially designed for the role of targeting, tracking, and engaging ground and surface targets. This capability is of course, given by the "Marksman" advanced targeting/navigation system, which consist of two pods mounted in a conformal fashion on the fuselage, near the wing roots of the aircraft. One pod is responsible for navigation during night and adverse weather conditions, while the other, and larger, pod is dedicated to the actual engagement of targets. This pod consist of a built-in FLIR system along with a multifunction EO sensor, the latter of which consist of a low-light nightvision camera as well as a full-colour camera for daylight operations. In addition, the pod also has a slot, which can either accept a ground-attack millimeter wave radar, or alternatively a dedicated datalinking module. When equipped with the latter module, the pod can store images and other data captured by the FLIR and the EO sensors, while transmitting them to other platforms, effectively allowing the F-109D to function as an ad-hoc reconnaissance aircraft.

With the sensors down, what about the actual fire control system? This is where the IDEAS (Target Identification, Detection, Engagement, and Analysis) centralized fire control and combat system comes into play. It is a large computer system that not only links together the different sensors of the aircraft, but also permit the effective targeting of both ground and aerial targets through the utilization of targeting information and data from multiple sensors. This not only guarantees the reliability of such information and the success of the attack, but will also degrade the ability of enemy countermeasures, especially active radar cancellation systems. Based on these information, it then generates a fire control solution for guided weapons that might be launched against said targets. For some weapons such as anti-ship missiles and long range air-to-air missiles with datalinking capabilities, the fire control system can fully arrange the transmission of new and updated targeting data to these weapons, until when said transmission is intentionally cut off. Finally, aside from gathering targeting data for the aircraft itself, it can also transmit the information gathered and fire solutions generated to other platforms through the Linkfox datalinking system, permitting great flexibility.

Defensive Avionics
When compared to the offensive avionics of the aircraft, the defensive avionics suite is equally diverse. The centerpiece of the aircraft's defensive avionics is the COWS-IP system, which is the ultimate rendition of the original COWS employed on the F-125C. It consists of an advanced radar and LADAR warning receivers suite, the former consisting of tail and forward-mounted antennas and the latter composed of special passive laser energy-sensitive nodes positioned strategically around the aircraft. Both the RWR and LWR are designed to classify and assort the many different types of radar and LADAR threats around the world, including radars with frequency-skipping capabilities and pulse-LADARs, sometimes passing the collected information to the fire control system if the aircraft is engaged in an air defence suppression mission. Most importantly, the former is directly tied to an advanced multifunctional radar jamming system, which is capable of operating in multiple modes against a wide range of ground and air-based radars.

Along with the advanced electronics, the aircraft also bristles with a wide range of other form of countermeasures. The centerpiece of the aircraft's missile warning system is the "Mockingbird" Multidimensional Active Threat Early Warning System (MATES), which consist of an array of small IR and UV-based sensors around the body to passively warn the aircraft of missile threats. The aircraft carries a reasonable quantity of the standard flare and chaff countermeasures, both which can be dispensed manually or automatically, the latter more common in the event of ground attack missions to avoid man-portable missiles and short-range battlefield-deployed surface-to-air missiles. A pair of wing-mounted towed decoys can also be carried, both of which are fitted with special radar-reflective panels and IR signature generators that can help in distracting enemy sensors while luring enemy missiles. Both of the decoys are tied to the aircraft using retractable cables, although the cables can be cut in emergency cases if the aircraft is situated in a dangerous confrontation. These countermeasures, combined with the aircraft's integrated laser-based IR missile countermeasures system and electrchromic panelings, make the aircraft a difficult target to contend with.

Armaments and Payloads
For an aircraft of such immense size, it is only normal for it to carry a wide range of weapons. Perhaps one of the most important items that is part of the aircraft's teeth is the advanced Joran Ordnance SPARK 27mm aircraft-mounted cannon. Following the routes that other pioneering foreign contractors took, this system fires special caseless 27mm ammunition electrically. Up to 460 ammunition can be carried, most of which can be fired against either air or ground targets, the former done by radar while the latter assisted by a combintion of radar and IR-based sensors.

In addition to this, the aircraft can carry a wide range of weapons aside from its guns. The centerpiece is the fuselage-mounted internal weapons bay, which can carry an ample quantity of munitions, mostly air-to-air but can also be surface-attack missiles as well. These weapons are normally carried by a rack system, in which the weapon would be vertically ejected into the airstream through a gas-based mechanism. However, sometimes this can be substituded by a revolver-type rotary launcher in the case of air-to-air munitions, allowing rapid fire capabilities. Outside of the aircraft's inner jungle of framework and wires however, there are a total of twelve hardpoints, all of which can carry a wide range of munitions - air-to-air missiles, guided air-to-surface missiles, ground-attack glide munitions, guided and unguided bombs and submunition dispensers, and a wide array of other endless assortments of weapons. Perhaps the most significant is the aircraft's anti-ship capability: a total of five Roundel anti-ship missiles can be carried as part of a heavy anti-ship attack mission, each of which carries an armour-piercing 430kg warhead that will prove devastating to enemy escorts when travelling at a terminal speed of over Mach three.

Status
In service with the Omzian Navy.

OOC: See what happens when I leave for a week? As far as the AEW design concept... I can sort of do it, I just feel it won't be the best product.

My proposal is modular. The AWACS component will be like a paperback novel. The various ground surveilance modules will look like spheres. I'd probably end up "buying" the Omzian equipment to make it work properly...

OOC: Well, mine is supposed to come out early next week, and I wouldn't mind seeing what you will come up with anyways.

OOC- Alright Omz... Here they are... You'll have to tell me if there are better deals to be had or if I can't have some of these [Yeah, I just went through and noted their kick-assiness and said to myself I need these regardless], of if you'd recommend something better... Anyways, here's my mighty list [which doesn't include most of your air-to-air or SAM armaments]:

AGM-324A/B/C [All Variants I want]
AGM-325A
AGM-326 B/C and D/E Variants
AGM-328A/B [All Types]
AGM-329B
AGM-519A
BGM-501
BGM-502
RQM-502
MIFAVS
M3012/3016
WCMD-11
BLU-200


Terms of payment: Anything you want whether it be cash or otherwise...

OOC: You might want to check out the Tigersword instead of the LRALCM... Otherwise, I'm arranging something similar to a deal...

OOC- Yeah... I'll take those too, all of those variants [AGM/RGM/UGM-324E Tigersword-E Multiplatform Multifunction Cruise Missile; AGM/RGM/UGM-324E Tigersword-F Light Multifunction Cruise Missile; AGM/RGM/UGM-324G Tigersword-G Multifunction Heavy Payload Cruise Missile]...

E-128A Regulator Aerial Control and Surveillance (ARCS) Aircraft
Length: 75.2m
Height: 24.6m
Wingspan: 80.1m
Propulsion: 4x Hongaz Electrics MPS-122 turbofans, ea. with 78,000lbs of thrust
Empty Weight: 281,000kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 598,000kg
Crew: 3 flight crew, 20 mission specialists (air defence), 26 mission specialists (battlefield control)
Ceiling: 55,000ft max, 50,000ft cruise
Range: 16,000km
Speed: Mach 0.9 max, Mach 0.82 cruise
Endurance: +16 hours unrefueled
Main Sensor Systems: Rotodome-mounted Noran Systems ASR-22IV LPI radar (+800km range against fighters, +600km against low-flying targets, +1200km against bombers, +500km against ships), chin-mounted Noran Systems OR-33L 360 degree-scan pulse LADAR, nose and tail-mounted Noran Systems OR-57K wide angle scan IRST systems with laser rangefinders
Cost: $380 million
Export Cost (Allies and Trading Partners Only): $450 million

E-128G Goalpost Joint Airborne Ground and Surface Surveillance System (JAGS)
Length: 75.2m
Height: 24.6m
Wingspan: 80.1m
Propulsion: 4x Hongaz Electrics MPS-122 turbofans, ea. with 78,000lbs of thrust
Empty Weight: 281,000kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 598,000kg
Crew: 3 flight crew, 23 mission specialists (ground surveillance), 27 mission specialists (sea surveillance)
Ceiling: 55,000ft max, 50,000ft cruise
Range: 16,000km
Speed: Mach 0.9 max, Mach 0.82 cruise
Endurance: +16 hours unrefueled
Main Sensor Systems: Nose-mounted Noran Systems AGR-82 radar (+450km range against ground targets), chin-mounted Noran Systems OR-33R surface scan pulse LADAR, Joranskie Defence Solutions Passive Electronic Signal Surveillance (ELINT/SIGINT) system
Cost: $360 million
Export Cost (Allies and Trading Partners Only): $420 million

Developed by OMASC/NDI, the E-128A Regulator and the E-128G Goalpost together constitutes a new generation of airborne surveillance and control systems, the former being a much larger successor to notable AWACS aircraft such as the E-3 while the latter being a greatly more potent successor to the E-8 JSTARS. Despite their numerous and profound differences, they all share one similar airframe, hence similar designations to reflect the nature of such. The airframes of both aircraft are derived from those of the Airbus A380, but numerous changes have also been made to improve and maximize its aerodynamics with the presence of external sensors, while similarly fitting new engines to give it a greater endurance, range, and speed. Construction material primarily consists of composites to give it a light yet strong frame. An integrated Halon-based fire fighting system is fitted as well, near the engines which are in turn mounted into protective pods that maximizes the aircraft's ability to respond to engine damage or/and loss both accidentally and incidentally (i.e. due to missile strikes). Together, the airframe provides ample room for a wide range of sensors and computer systems, ensuring that they can be employed to their maximum effectiveness while also keeping down the costs to a reasonable level without going too extraneous.

However, this is where the similarities end. For the E-128A Regulator, as its name suggests, it is a dedicated multifunction AWACS aircraft that is responsible for the surveillance of airspace and the sea across a distance of hundreds, if not over a thousand, kilometers. In a way, it is not only simply an air surveillance system, but also a complete battlefield command and control aircraft. As a result, the centerpiece of the aircraft is the advanced, rotodome-mounted ASR-22IV radar, which utilizes low probability of intercept features to enhance both its effectiveness and the aircraft's own survivability. This radar is designed in mind to detect a wide range of targets, including fighters employing stealthy traits, large bombers, spaceplane-type "Hypersoar" bombers, low-flying aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles and cruise missiles, and even surface ships. The radar, though bearing a limited degree of target identification capabilities similar to those of the NCTR, is also coupled with an IFF system to accurately identify and discriminate among the targets that it detects and tracks. Aside from this, there is also a chin-mounted OR-33L 360 degree-scan pulse LADAR, which is a very powerful detection and tracking system that utilizes laser energy. Though its range is noticeably lower than those of the radar, it nevertheless permits the detection of stealthy aircraft beyond the range of most medium to long range air-to-air missiles. Also coupled with this is a set of two powerful infrared imaging sensors, each with their own laser rangefinders, which are further intended to supplement the existing LADAR system as a passive and more weather-prone mean to accomplish its intended tasks. Finally, a set of passive ESM antennas allows the aircraft to gain valuable information about enemy radar and LADAR receivers through the detection and classification of such active transmitters. These three powerful systems are then linked into one central computer architecture, manned by a crew of around twenty mission specialists. Utilizing the aforementioned sensors as well as the onboard secure communication and datalinking system (a development of the Linkfox), the crews can direct friendly assets during their missions, conduct surveillance against intruding enemy fighters, and even set up datalinks between a wide variety of long range air-to-air and anti-ship missiles and the aircraft itself, so as to relieve the launching aircraft of the task of guiding it during most of its course. It is also important as well to signify the E-128A's capabilities of being a full-fledged airborne control aircraft, with ample provisions for advanced control and communications system, as well as the ability to constantly feed accurate data to other command and control platforms in emergency cases.

The E-128G on the other hand, is equally advanced, but is also drastically different. Unlike the Regulator, it is a dedicated ground and sea surveillance aircraft. This time, the centerpiece is the advanced AGR-82 ground surveillance radar, which is capable of detecting a wide variety of ground vehicles and surface ships as a mean to conduct the surveillance of a very wide area of land and/or sea. However, the downside in the case of detecting ground targets is that since it utilizes Doppler shift as a mean of detecting ground vehicles of such small sizes, the targets must be moving to permit detection. On the other hand, the radar also have a limited ability against low-flying aircraft, most importantly helicopters, further enhancing its value as a platform useful for assisting ground operations. Hence, the OR-33R LADAR system is used as a mean to detect other ground targets over shorter ranges, with its ability to map the ground with excellent precision. At sea, its integrated ELINT/SIGINT system can also be a valuable asset, allowing the aircraft to detect radar and other similar emissions, especially those from naval taskforces and land-based air defence systems. In all, these sensors, when tied together, allow the E-128G to function as a highly-versatile battlefield surveillance system that can easily survey a huge portion of either land or/and sea, giving friendly forces immense advantages through the provision of real-time information on enemy and other units alike.

Despite these differences, in terms of the troubling matter of self-defence, both aircraft have a common solution, especially against the countless threats that makes the destruction of an AWACS aircraft a daunting possibility. The first line of defence is the suite of missile warning systems, IR and UV-based sensors around the aircraft that provides reliable warnings of a wide range of missile launches against the aircraft. There are also four modified versions of the "Apollo" high-energy active radar countermeasures system, which are essentially transmitter-only disruption systems that emit high-energy bursts against radars on enemy missiles as a mean to disable them (as already seen on the F-22A). Each of these is mounted in a turret, which are then respectively positioned near the tail, on the belly, and on the aircraft's sides. Despite the risk of disruption of the aircraft's onboard radar systems, these are deemed to be an effective system in giving the aircraft a capability to fend off missile attacks. Standard laser-based IR missile countermeasures system are also fitted, as well as special large towed decoys, in which there are two to the relief of the operators inside.

[I'll take all three, what are the costs for production rights?]

[I'll take all three, what are the costs for production rights?]
OOC: Right now it is $500 billion. However, when I get the F-109E (STOVL variant) write up later today, you can have all four for $400 billion.

F-109E Skyfury STOVL Strike Fighter
Length: 18.6m
Height: 5.1m
Wingspan: 13.5m
Primary Propulsion: Two Hongaz Electrics "Vertical Surefire" turbofans with liftfan and vertical-lit thruster systems, each with 36,000lbs of thrust
Empty Weight: 15,000kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 35,500kg STOL
Crew: 1
Ceiling: +60,000ft
Range: 5500kg ferry, 1400km combat radius
Speed: Mach 2.48 maximum, Mach 1.5 supercruise
Armaments: One 27mm cannon, plus 9000kg of payload (conventional takeoff only - about 3000kg typical for vertical takeoff missions) in one weapons bay, 2 wingtip hardpoints, 4 outboard underwing hardpoints, and 4 inboard underwing hardpoints
Main Weapon Bays (Each): 5x MRAAM, 3x MRAAM & 2x SRAAM, 2x 1000lb munitions & 2x MRAAM, 1x 2000-3000lb munition & 2x MRAAM, 3x 500lb munition & 3x MRAAM, 8x 250lb munition & 2x MRAAM
External Hardpoints (Wingtip): 1x SRAAM
External Hardpoints (Outboard): 1x MRAAM, 1x 1000lb munition, 2x 5000lb munition, 3x 250lb munition
External Hardpoints (Inboard): 3x MRAAM, 2x 1000lb munition, 1x 2000lb munition, 4x 500lb munition, 8x 250lb munition, 1x fuel tank
Unit Cost: $128 million
Export Cost: $160 million (close allies only)

Introduction
The Skyfury, being the sibling of the equally advanced albeit bigger Seafury, is a direct descendant of the older and smaller F-109C Skyfire. A bigger aircraft by its own rights, it stretches its STOVL capabilities to its top limits while still maintaining a modest array of sensors, armaments, and other updated systems to perform its mission as a strike fighter. VTOL capabilities are still maintained, though not as strongly as the F-109C due to the addition of additional fuel tanks as well as extra sensors and weapon carriage capabilities. All in all, it is a worthy successor to the F-109C, and will remain so as one of the most powerful aircraft of such type in Omzian - as well as foreign - militaries.

Design and Physical Characteristics
The airframe of the F-109E Skyfury, when compared to the Seafury, possesses numerous similarities as well as differences to reflect its lineage and its different mission and tasking. The airframe is noticeably smaller-sized due to weight requirements, and numerous smaller features are either scaled down or eliminated. Along those are the smaller canards, the shortened "vee tails", a shorter wing root, and a smaller but a slightly more "tapered" wing with a more limited set of mission adaptive features. Since speed is not a major concern for a STOVL strike and close air support aircraft, the intakes have also been repositioned and slightly downsized, with additional RCS-reduction features applied to improve the fighter's overall survivability. Nevertheless, both RAM and the optical "camouflage" systems are kept, while the electrochromic panels are now largely restricted to the wings' edges.

In terms of construction, the focus has been shifted to lightweight and reliability rather than speed for obvious reasons, as already reflected by the airframe's physical features. Composites are now applied throughout the aircraft, followed by a more limited quantity of metal alloys and light thermoplastics. In some critical areas, the light armouring scheme has been kept, while in others (such as the fuel tanks) it has been deleted for the sake of weight.

The propulsion system of the Skyfury can be said as the central aspect of the aircraft, based on the concepts derived from the Yak-41 as well as the F-35B, albeit on a much larger scale. Perhaps one of the most noticeable additions is the inclusion of two modestly sized turbofans as opposed to one, added for the sake of survivability. These turbofans are equipped with an integrated thrust-vectoring capability, which is in turn coordinated (through the new flight control systems) with a total of six side nozzles on the side of the aircraft to achieve very short takeoffs from field strips and amphibious vessels and vertical landings. Added to this is one single large liftfan positioned between the two engines. Though initial plans have called for the implementation of two smaller liftfans, this idea was later scraped for reliability and other reasons related to weight, in favour of one single and larger liftfan. This system allows vertical takeoffs as well as landings when the aircraft is not carrying a great load of payload and fuel and when the aircraft is operating from unprepared forward bases (so as to support frontline troops a few hundred kilometers way), while allowing easier short distance takeoffs by providing the needed vertical thrust.

In terms of crew operations, though a large liftfan dominates what were originally the WSO's seating and a large fuselage fuel tank, the single crewmember - the pilot - will still be able to operate the aircraft with the current accommodations. Fortunately, for pilots shifting from Seafury squadrons, the cockpit displays and controls are nearly identical to those of the Seafury, including the distinctive helmet-mounted sight (to replace the HUD), the voice command system, and the highly flexible touchscreen systems. The datalinking system has also been retained, allowing an unprecedented level of coordination between air and ground forces to occur, thus improving its capabilities in the close air support as well as the strike roles.

Avionics Systems
In terms of the aircraft's offensive avionics, there are numerous changes from the Seafury that effectively distinguishes the F-109E as a strike fighter rather as a multirole aircraft. Along with the standard IDEAS centralized fire control system, the advanced NPR-558 "Multiplex-ERII" MPELPI radar is also retained to give the aircraft extensive capabilities against air as well as ground targets, the "Crowtail" has been deleted, in favour for a greater quantity of fuel and space for an extended missile countermeasures system. Among its many capabilities, it can still double as an electronic disruption system, being able to concentrate high-energy beams against systems such as radar-equipped self-propelled anti-aircraft guns as well as battlefield air defence systems. The software of the radar also has been especially optimized for ground attack roles, with expanded capabilities for operating dumb iron bombs, dumb cluster munitions, rockets, and even anti-tank missiles.

In terms of other sensors, the other most important deletion is the Needlehole-ER pulse LADAR system, as it has been determined that such system will only have limited use on a strike aircraft. Similarly, the "Gulleye-ER" imaging IRST system is also deleted, for virtually the same reason. To replace it, the "Griffin" multipurpose infrared/electro-optical imaging system has been added. An advanced EO-augmented IR sensor mounted in a chin pod (where the Needlehole was in the Seafury), it possesses extensive air-to-air and air-to-ground capabilities in detecting, tracking, targeting, and attacking fixed wing aircraft, helicopters, and a host of ground targets including vehicles and stationary sites. Though it is certainly not as powerful as a dedicated targeting/navigation pod, on the other hand it removes the requirement of having such pod to conduct precision strikes, with an additional multipurpose laser rangefinder that can also serve as a laser designator for laser-guided weapons. More so, the images captured by the colour and nighvision-capable EO sensor can be directly transferred to other platforms through the aircraft's datalinking, giving it an ad-hoc reconnaissance as well as post-strike bomb damage assessment capabilities.

In regards to the "Marksman" advanced targeting/navigation pod set, the Skyfury distinguishes itself in that the pods can be removed. Though the addition of the pod will certainly greatly assist the aircraft in ground strike as well as close air support roles by augmenting the Griffin, it can be instead deleted for other options. One such option is a comprehensive ECM system, named the "Dazzler". The Dazzler consists of two pods mounted in the original location of the Marksman, and offers extensive radar jamming capabilities against modern radars such as LPI types, as well as limited ELINT capabilities. It also allows greater capabilities for the aircraft to identify and target enemy ground based radar and LADAR sensors as well as communication arrays, giving the aircraft extensive capabilities as an air defence suppression platform. Another interesting option is the mounting of two special side-looking airborne radar (SLAR) pods. Designed by Noran Systems, the "Searchlight" SLAR system is designed to fulfill an Omzian Navy requirement for the F-109E to function as a "micro-AWACS" by giving it additional airborne early warning capabilities, thus giving light carriers additional target detection and intelligence-gathering capabilities. These two pods can greatly enhance the F-109E's performance as such as "micro-AWACS" by bolstering its existing radar as well as its communication capabilities, being able to scan a wide area of airspace as well as the sea.

When compared to the offensive avionics of the new upgrade, the defensive avionics are equally comprehensive. Despite this, there are also various omissions and modifications as well. Most of the COWS-IP system is kept to boost the aircraft's survivability against both enemy aircraft and air defence systems, and can work together with the Dazzler system (mentioned above) in an air defence suppression role. On the other hand, the "Mockingbird" MATES system is expanded, to not only warn the aircraft of missile launches but also to assist in the course of evasive actions as well. This is done by adding additional IR and UV-based sensors to especially bolster the aircraft's ability to war against modern battlefield IR-guided missiles, as well as linking it to the existing electrochromic panels and missile countermeasures systems. Additional laser-based IR missile countermeasures systems have also been added, and designers are also careful to retain the towed decoy carrying capabilities. Together, it makes the Skyfury a fearsome target that is difficult to counter.

Armaments and Payloads
In terms of armaments and payloads, when compared to the Seafury the Skyfury has a noticeable reduction in its load, due to the size factor as well as the larger propulsion arrangements. The most important change is the downsizing of the main weapons bay, which is no longer capable of carrying most of the +3000lb weapons that the Seafury could carry. The number of hardpoints are also reduced, but with additional capabilities in mounting rocket and anti-tank missile pods. On the other hand, the 27mm cannon is surprisingly retained, now with a reduced quantity of 380 rounds. In the Skyfury, the 27mm cannon is not mainly used against aircraft but instead ground targets, giving it the ability to strafe targets with impunity as well as bombarding them with cluster bombs and missiles.

Status
In service with the Omzian Navy.

[I'll take all four, then. Obvious the big aircraft are going to be in service with the Imperial Aerospace Force, the F-109D with the Imperial Navy, and the F-109E with the Imperial Marines.]

OOC: Deal. I will also put up the B-110 writeup soon, perhaps today. These are a part of my effort to get the things done beforehand so that I won't have to be preoccupied with them later as I get busier, though by no means does this result in a reduction in quality or whatsoever.

B-110 Archstream Ultra Heavy Strategic Bomber Project Unveiled
New Project Under the Wise Guidance of the Beloved National Founder, Hongaz Omazee
Exports Open to Approved Allies

Origin and Introduction
The latest aircraft produced by OMASC, this is the largest bomber that will be in the service of the Omzian Forces. The idea for the bomber was immediately conceived after the development of the B-108 Thunderhawk, as an eventual replacement for the maintenance-intensive swing-wing B-105 Skyhammer design, that would be easier to maintain yet equipped with even greater capabilities. The end result of this project, termed 'Archbird' by OMASC and the Omzian Air Force, is the B-110. Often referred to as the "battleship airliner" by its designers and test pilots, the aircraft is intended to complement existing Thunderhawk and Bombardier bombers in Omzian service, as a very high-payload aircraft capable of delivering a mass quantity of munitions both in intercontinental bombing missions and support of ground forces. Though it suffers in terms of speed and altitude, the wide array of offensive and defensive systems makes the bomber a very heavily armed platform that would be difficult to contend with.

Design and Physical Characteristics
Airframe
The B-110 Archstream, as its basic natures suggest, is nothing short of being a gigantic flying machine, as simply calling it an 'aircraft' would be a great understatement. On a first look, its most noticeable features include its long, sleek fuselage with elegant and smooth contours, a wide, thick swept wing; a twin set of horizontal tails at the back of the aircraft; and numerous bulges that extend outwards, bearing various systems alike. This traditional swept-wing layout makes the aircraft a fairly orthodox high-subsonic bomber design, but at the same time deep down it also integrates various advanced features. The entire aircraft is equipped with a fly-by-optics system, giving the pilot extreme responsiveness and ease of operations. On the other hand, the entire airframe is constructed with a variety of advanced composites as well as strong aluminum titanium alloys, to give it a light, strong body that is needed for both high-flying standoff strike missions and low-level penetration bombings. Thermoplastics are also used as well as advanced glass-fiber plastics, giving it better reliability, a lengthened service life, and better resistance against impact by shrapnel and other flying fragments alike. Light layers of armour, composed of sandwiched layers of kevlar, titanium plating, and ceramic panels, are also utilized around critical points of the aircraft, such as its large fuel tanks, wide engine pods, the extensive cockpit arrangements, and the long bomb bays. Both RAM coatings and RAS schemes are also applied throughout the aircraft, giving it a RCS that is only a fraction of those of the Airbus A380. On the other hand, both the traditional electrochromic panels and optical camouflage nodes are also utilized around the aircraft, allowing it to blend into the sky while permitting a greater chance of evading advanced IR-guided weapons.

Internally, the Archstream can be best described as a large tunnel of spaces and equipment alike. There are three gigantic weapons bays internally in the aircraft's fuselage, each bristling with gigantic rotary launchers for a variety of munitions. Outside of the aircraft, there are also semi-recessed turrets of various types, including the standard self-defence turrets, LADAR jammers, and a new type of missile defence system. On the wings, there are a total of six gigantic underwing stores stations, each with two pylons that can hold a variety of munitions externally. They are found on the wing roots and between the engine pods. On the other hand, internally at the top-front of the aircraft, there is a large cockpit that accommodates a crew of six, with additional provisions for two additional personnel as well as stores of supplies.

Propulsion
In terms of propulsion, due to the aircraft's gigantic size it is only natural for it to bear an array of huge, powerful engines. The centerpiece that powers the aircraft into the air is an arrangement of eight Hongaz Electrics turbofans of the venerable MPS series, each with a thrust of 75,000lbs. Pairs of these individual engines are in turn placed into a large pod, which is in essence a large armoured shroud that contains numerous arrangements of wires as well as connections to the wing and fuselage fuel tanks. Halon-based firefighting systems are integrated in each engine pod, and the engines themselves are monitored by computer systems that can cut off the fuel link in the case of a fire. If the engines are not salvageable, and if the fire would pose a profound risk to the aircraft, then the engine pods are designed to naturally "eject" themselves to avoid the fire from spreading to the fuel tanks. In controlled tests, the aircraft can be powered by a mere four engines, though this is only recommended in extreme emergency. In normal conditions, the aircraft can travel at a speed as high as Mach 0.98, though standard cruise speeds are often around the range of Mach 0.9. The excellent fuel efficiency characteristics of the engines also mean that an impressive range of 19,000km with the recommended payload is possible, giving the bomber an unprecedented reach even in standoff missions.

The fuel tanks of the aircraft however, are strategically positioned in the wings, and sometimes in the fuselage as well, often as long bulges. Each is surrounded by an arrangement of armour plating as well as foam to minimalise the damages that may be done to it by shrapnel, and likewise there are also integrated Halon-based firefighting systems near the larger fueltanks. Alternatively, the aircraft can also receive fuel through a boom system during aerial refueling; in other cases, the external armaments on the pylons can be replaced by large wing-mounted drop tanks to provide an additional boost as well as range.

Crew Operations
In terms of crew operations, the Archstream can be one of the most comfortable bombers that a crew can operate. Though during low altitude operations turbulence can be the norm, normally the ride is very smooth for the crews in their cockpits of this large aircraft. Overall however, due to the bomber's massiveness and complexity, an astonishing number of six personnel make up the bomber's crew. All six are positioned on one single deck that is the cockpit, and each crew member is faced with a huge array of consoles, each with advanced colour touchscreens and smaller LCD status indicator displays that can display a variety of data and information with great efficiency. In other cases, a trackball system is often use to control the consoles and screens, while both the pilot and copilot instead use two sets of HOTAS (hands on throttle and stick) as a mean to control the aircraft. Both the pilot and the copilot are also equipped with a helmet sight system that replaces the HUD in older Omzian bombers, each with an integrated voice command system. Each crew member also sits on comfortable but nevertheless advanced ejection seats, and normally wear light infantry armour as well to ensure their safety if the aircraft is attacked.

In terms of other accommodations, the pilot and the copilot are faced with a wide panel of windows, while the other four crewmembers sit in tandem in two columns behind the pilot and copilot. Lights are also located in ideal positions, while heating is also provided. A large storage compartment behind the cockpit in the meanwhile, can accommodate either two additional personnel, or a wealth of supplies, such as food and other equipment that may be necessary to operate the aircraft in emergency situations.

Avionics Systems
Offensive
In terms of offensive avionics, this is where the bomber's complexity finally originates. Though the aircraft is dotted with a vast array of individual avionics that all lend a helping hand during an attack, it is the aircraft's datalink and combat management system that unites them together into one central hub. Developed by Noran Systems, the "Oberon-ER" system is a direct descendent of the older Oberon of the famed B-108, and integrates various different sensors of the aircraft to analyze, process, and refine information and other data gathered from these sensors as well as the system's integrated datalink, and then consequently processing them into individual firing solutions. At other times, especially with the help of its built-in datalink, the system can vastly improve the crew's situational awareness through the exchanging of information with other friendly platforms. Finally, during emergency situations, the system can coordinate the sensors with the onboard self-defence systems to fend off attackers both from the air and on the ground.

Linked to this massive and impressive system is the actual array of sensors. The first, and perhaps most important, of these sensors is the "Woodblock" advanced multipurpose ELPI radar system, developed by Noran Systems. Consisting of a very powerful frontal sensor and a smaller rearward-facing sensor mounted on the tail, it is designed to conduct a variety of tasks, detecting aerial, ground, and sea target for both data collection and engagement. In other situations, its precision enables it to carry out navigation and ground-mapping duties with great effectiveness, especially during low-level penetration missions. Both radars are also designed with stealth and concealment in mind not only in their detection capabilities but how they operate, which means that both features extensive frequency-hopping and other low probability of intercept characteristics, further enhanced by the fourth-generation ELPI software and hardware suites. Like many other third and fourth-generation ELPI radars, it is capable of acting as an electronic disruption device as well, concentrating high-energy beams on other radars as well as communication systems, as a mean of neutralising sensors of enemy air defence system, aircraft, and radar-guided missiles. Normally however, when attacking it is instrumental in operating the aircraft's onboard weapons, acquiring different targets and then determining how they will be released in the case of both dumb and smart munitions. In emergency situations, the radar can also be used to attack enemy fighters, by launching and guiding long air-to-air missiles as a mean of fending off such attacks.

Despite the impressiveness of the radar, it is not required in all situations. The second line of systems is the "Griffin-EX" multipurpose EO/infrared detection and targeting system, which comes in the form of a huge semi-recessed chin-mounted pod. Inside this pod, there is a large passive infrared sensor capable of detecting both ground and aerial targets, three separate electro-optical sensors (including two nightvision cameras and one full-colour camera), and a multipurpose laser rangefinder and designator. This impressive system allows the aircraft to, through passive means, detect ground targets and then track and target them before they are attacked. Though the range is reduced when compared to the aforementioned radar, it is nevertheless highly precise and reliable, being immune to enemy ECM as well as electric disruption.

With this aside, perhaps the bomber's most impressive sensor system is the Target Identification, Discrimination, and Analysis System (IDA), developed by Noran Systems. The IDA system consists of two large oval-shaped turret-like pods, mounted on the sides of the aircraft's frontal fuselage section. Each consists of a full-fledged FLIR system, an EO system, and most importantly, a medium-range precision LADAR system. Unlike the Griffin-EX, these are dedicated sensors designed to detect, identify, and target a wide range of ground and surface targets, including surface ships, fixed ground installations, and even individual vehicles. Though they are fully functional in many different types of missions, they re especially useful in low-level penetration and other time-critical missions, allowing the aircraft to independently acquire and assess targets independently. Each pod is also essentially a turret by itself, which means that it can be rotated to get maximum coverage. Finally, there is also an integrated datalinking system in each pod, allowing the aircraft to send imagery generated by the IDA system to other platforms as well.

Finally, no bomber is full without its own communication and datalinking systems. Though the datalinking system (as mentioned above) is normally integrated with the bomber's fire control and combat management system, it is also a part of the bomber's communication system, allowing the bomber to not only exchange information directly with other platforms but also to exchange them indirectly through satellite uplinks. Added to this is a set of radios, along with a unique flight-wide line-of-sight laser communication system, allowing individual aircraft in small groups to communicate with each other even under radio silence.

Defensive
The bomber's defensive systems suite is equally, if not more, impressive than its offensive systems. The suite, a development of the COWS-XII of the B-108 named the COWS-IB, is designed to allow the bomber to operate effectiveness with impunity even in enemy airspace. Hence, it is important for the bomber to be equipped with a wide array of systems to ensure its safety and the success of its mission.

The most important features of the COWS-IB lie in its comprehensive array of radar and LADAR early warning and jamming systems. The center of this is the "Thunderkey" multifunction radar warning receiver system, which is a powerful RWR connected to a computer that allows it to process and analyze signals received from enemy radar arrays, including those equipped with LPI features, and consequently warn the crew of the existence of such threat. Further, it can also employ the information as a mean to attack these sensors, either using onboard anti-radiation missiles directly or through radar jamming. Similarly, there is also a LADAR warning receiver, consisting of a network of laser energy-sensitive nodes positioned around the aircraft, with excellent capabilities even against newer pulse LADARs. Together as a whole, data collected from these sensors can also be passed onto other platforms, especially bomber escorts, so that the enemy air defence systems can be successfully neutralized.

In addition, there is a powerful ECM suite, the centerpiece being a large radar jammer that can impair the function of even modern LPI radars, thus degrading the chance of a successful attack against the bomber. A special active radar cancellation system is also included, though the system is not particularly powerful against newer frequency-hopping radars and is only practical against long range active radar-guided missiles during their terminal stage. Finally, there are two "Saturn" turrets, one placed near the tail and one placed near the chin. Each turret contains a large and powerful laser transmitter that can emit high-energy laser pulses against enemy LADAR sensors as a mean to neutralise them, thus effectively functioning as energy-based weapons, either temporarily or permanently.

In terms of missile defence, the COWS-IB employs both active and passive means. The first line of defence is the COWS-IB's missile launch warning system, which consist of a combination of small IR and UV sensors placed around the aircraft to detect and warn of missile launches from enemy aircraft as well as ground and ship-based air defence systems. This is tied to the standard chaff and flare dispensers, in addition to laser-based IR missile dazzlers. In addition to this, the aircraft also sport a total of five of the new "Apollo" high-energy active radar countermeasure system turrets. Each turret houses an active electric disruption device, which is in essence a radar-like transmitter that can emit high-energy pulses (similar to those on the 3rd and 4th generation Omzian radars as well as the AN/APG-77 of the F-22A) as a mean of neutralizing enemy radars. However, each of these are not particular powerful, but are instead quite flexible, meaning that they are mainly used against the active radar seekers of enemy missiles. With all five turrets working together along with other parts of the COWS-IB, these systems can successfully help the bomber to fend off multiple missile attacks, making it a difficult target to challenge even for a fighter.

Weapons Systems
Offensive
Among its numerous features and distinctions, it is clear that aside from the aircraft's actual size, its phenomenal payload capacity is perhaps what makes it one of the most unique and impressive aircraft among OMASC/NDI's line of bombers. Standing at 170 tons at its maximum, the B-110's carriage capacity means that only one aircraft can accomplish the task of several older bombers, most importantly its obsolete competitor, the B-52 Stratofortress. Though originally five bomb bays are considered, in the end it has been decided that these payloads would be carried in three large bomb bays as well as on six large external underwing store stations.

For the bomb bays, they are quite similar to those of the B-108, but have been lengthened to accept an additional COMIC launcher. First used on the B-108, the COMIC is a complex rotary ordnance carriage system that is highly modular and versatile, allowing it to accept a variety of Omzian-made munitions as well as foreign-made munitions (with modifications). Each COMIC launcher can accept munitions of various types, up to the 4000kg weight class. Beyond this, a special rack-based system called the HARD is delivered. The HARD utilizes a gas-based system to expel large, 5000kg-plus munitions from the bomb bay directly into the airstream, permitting the carriage of extremely large munitions such as the BLU-201 "earthquake bomb" and the BLU-300 heavy penetrator.

Aside from this, the B-110 is distinguished from other Omzian bombers by the sheer size and quantity of its large external stores stations. The B-110's external carriage capabilities revolve around its six huge underwing stores stations, two located on the wing roots and four between the engine pods. Each station is composed of two separate, but linked pylons, each holding a large rack that accepts a diverse range of munitions. Most of the times the external stations are used to carry smaller munitions, but in special cases the two pylons can work together to carry larger ones. In special cases, the two stations located on the wing roots can accept two "Needlerain" pods instead, which are large, 12 meters long ECM jammer pods that can effectively transform the B-110 into a powerful electronic warfare platform with no interference of its ground attack capabilities.

Defensive
In terms of the bomber's defensive armaments, they are largely similar to those of older Omzian bombers. There are two self-defence weapons bays, which are smaller weapons bays forward of the bomb bays, each holding a small rotary launcher that can hold a variety of munitions. The most prominent of these is the Starfall MRAAM, in which 18 can be carried. Although the B-110's subsonic speed makes it a satisfactory carrier for medium range air-to-air missiles, it is deemed that these missiles can be used effectively by the bomber to fend off enemy fighter attacks. On the other hand, the bomber can carry a small quantity of "Mockingbird" air-launched decoys, which are advanced UAVs that carries special radar wave reflectors and internal heaters that mimics the radar signature of the bomber, overwhelming the enemy's air defence radars. These are normally used in conjunction with the aircraft's towed decoys, in which four can be carried in small internal bays on the wings.

In addition to this, there are also two special Self Defence System (MarkII) turrets. For many familiar with Omzian bombers designs, the inclusion of only two of these is indeed a surprise, since it was deemed that other (and more non-lethal) and more effective means can be employed to allow the bomber fend off missile attacks. Nevertheless, two are still included for safety. Each of these SDS turrets, which are upgraded from their predecessors, carries a special 27mm cannon utilizing caseless, electrically-fired ammunition, in which 300 can be carried. Aside from this, each can also carry a three-round revolver-type launcher for the Starshield short-range IR-guided air-to-air missile to fend off close-in enemy aircraft as well as Bomarc-type anti-bomber SAMs, though normal practice is to replace those with the Stararm light anti-radiation missile for use against radars of enemy anti-aircraft guns. Finally, and most importantly, each also has a 15-round launcher for the Ministar miniature air-to-air missile, in which three can be fired off in a single salvo. The Ministar is a much smaller development of the Starshield, and is designed to be used against large AAMs and SAMs over a distance of eight kilometers, with varying degrees of effectiveness.

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Standard Payloads
Weapons Bay (Standard/Max)
-3x/6x BLU-200A/C heavy penetrators (1x/2x each bay)
-3x BLU-201A/B 'Superbomb' (1x each bay)
-1x BLU-202A 'Megabomb' (with modifications)
-18x/30x 8000lb PDAS-Penetrator (6x/10x per bay)
-135x/234x Mk.288 Thermonuclear Bomb (0.2-50kT) (45x/78x each bay)
-180x/312x Mk.230 Thermonuclear Bomb (0.05-30kT) (60x/104x each bay)
-135x/234x Mk.178 Runway Attack Munition (45x/78x each bay)
-72x/120x 2000lb PDAS (24x/40x per bay)
-72x/120x 2000lb PDAS-Napalm (24x/40x per bay)
-72x/120x 2000lb PDAS-FAE (24x/40x per bay)
-72x/120x 2000lb PDAS-Penetrator (24x/40x per bay)
-72x/120x 2000lb Mk.89 CAPTOR (24x/40x per bay)
-135x/234x 1000lb PDAS (45x/78x each bay)
-270x/456x 500lb PDAS (90x/152x each bay)
-480x/900x 250lb SPDAS (192x/300x each bay)
-96x/156x CBU-203/B or CBU-87/B (32x/52x each bay)
-96x/156x CBU-204/B or CBU-89/B (32x/52x each bay)
-96x/156x CBU-205/B or CBU-97/B (32x/52x each bay)
-96x/156x CBU-207/B (32x/52x each bay)
-96x/156x CBU-208/B (32x/52x each bay)
-96x/156x CBU-209/B (32x/52x each bay)
-72x/120x CSJ Chevalier HAM (24x/40x per bay)
-6x/12x Meteor-G ASMs (2x/4x each bay)
-36x/60x Roundel ASMs (12x/20x each bay)
-12x/18x Longaxe ASM/ALCMs (4x/6x each bay)
-6x/9x Arquebus II ALCMs (2x/3x each bay)
-6x/9x Triton ALBM (2x/3x each bay)
-48x/72x SGAM SALMs (16x/24x each bay)
-30x/48x Tigersword-E/G ALCM (10x/16x each bay)
-60x/90x Tigersword-F LALCM (20x/30x each bay)
-12x/18x Tigersword-H ASM (4x/6x each bay)

External Pylons (Total)
-2x ECM / Radar Jammer Pods (1x each station)
-48x AIM-120PB NLRAAM (8x each station)
-6x/12x 8000lb PDAS-Penetrator (1x/2x each station)
-30x/48x Mk.288 Thermonuclear Bomb (0.2-50kT) (5/8x each station)
-48x/72x Mk.230 Thermonuclear Bomb (0.05-30kT) (8x/12x each station)
-60x/96x Mk.178 Runway Attack Munition (10x/16x each station)
-30x/48x 2000lb PDAS (5x/8x each station)
-30x/48x 2000lb PDAS-Napalm (5x/8x each station)
-30x/48x 2000lb PDAS-FAE (5x/8x each station)
-30x/48x 2000lb PDAS-Penetrator (5x/8x each station)
-30x/48x 2000lb Mk.98 CAPTOR (5x/8x each station)
-60x/96x 1000lb PDAS (10x/16x each station)
-120x/192x 500lb PDAS (20x/32x each station)
-42x/60x CBU-203/B or CBU-87/B (7x/10x each station)
-42x/60x CBU-204/B or CBU-89/B (7x/10x each station)
-42x/60x CBU-205/B or CBU-97/B (7x/10x each station)
-42x/60x CBU-207/B (7x/10x each station)
-42x/60x CBU-208/B (7x/10x each station)
-42x/60x CBU-209/B (7x/10x each station)
-30x/48x CSJ Chevalier HAM (5x/8x each station)
-6x Meteor-G ASMs (1x each station)
-18x/24x Roundel ASMs (3x/4x each station)
-6x Longaxe ASM/ALCMs (1x each station)
-3x Arquebus II ALCMs (1x each station)
-3x Triton ALBMs (1x each station)
-18x/30x SGAM ALMs (3x/5x each station)
-30x/48x Buzzsaw ARM (5x/8x each station)
-72x/96x Buzzblade ARM (12x/16x each station)
-12x/18x Tigersword-E/G ALCM (2x/3x each station)
-24x/36x Tigersword-F LALCM (4x/6x each station)
-6x Tigersword-H ASM (1x each station)
-Additional fuel tanks or transport pods

Self-Defence Bays
-18x Starfall MRAAM (9x per bay)
-16x decoy drones (8x each bay)

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Specifications
Length: 94.5m
Height: 28.5m
Wingspan: 101.6m
Propulsion: Eight Hongaz Electrics 'MPS-225' turbofans, 75,000lb thrust each (in four engine pods)
Empty Weight: 362,000kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 876,000kg
Crew: Six with two additional (Pilot, Copilot/Flight Engineer, Bombardier/Navigator, Offensive Systems and Datalink Operator, Defensive Systems Operator, Defensive Weapons Operator)
Ceiling: 60,000ft
Range: 12,500km with max payload, 19,000km with standard payload
Speed: Mach 0.98 max at altitude, Mach 0.86-9 cruise
Payload: 110,000kg (242,509lb) standard, 170,000kg (374,785lb) max of weapons in three main weapon bays, six large underwing store stations (two pylons accepting Payload Carriage Racks [PACAR]), and two self-defence weapons bays; two Self Defence System turrets (one tail, one chin), two 'Saturn' LADAR jammer turrets (one tail, one chin) and five 'Apollo' high-energy active radar countermeasure system turrets (one tail, one chin, one ventral, two upper fuelage)
Unit Cost: $720 million
Export Cost: $800 million (close allies only, no exceptions)

B-52N Stratofortress II Bomber Upgrade
Length: 48.5m
Height: 12.4m
Wingspan: 56.4m
Propulsion: Four Hongaz Electrics MPS-56A turbofans, each with 62,000lbs of thrust
Empty Weight: 85,600kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 226,000kg
Crew: 5
Ceiling: +50,000ft
Range: 19,000km ferry, 10,000km with standard loads
Speed: Mach 0.92 max
Payload: Up to 36,500kg of ordnance in one internal bomb bay and on two external Refitted Heavy Stores Stations; up to 42 500lb weapons OR 30 1000lb weapons OR 15 2000lb weapons OR 12 CALCMs internally; up to 30 500lb munitions OR 24 1000lb munitions OR 18 2000lb munitions (including JASSMs, Harpoon Block 2, SLAM-ER) OR 12 CALCMs externally
Unit Cost: $100 million, $38 million per upgrade

Developed upon the request of the nation of Sniper Country, the EB-52N is OMASC/NDI's answer to the aging nature of existing B-52Hs that have been so proliferated in the militaries of countless nations around the globe. Though the upgrade only makes small changes to the aircraft's actual airframe (replacing certain parts with lighter ones made of composites), it is designed to be a "stopgap" upgrade to greatly improve the obsolete bomber's ability to fare in combat, while increasing its ability to carry out its mission while defending itself.

One of the most noticeable, and most important aspects of the upgrade is the revamped avionics suite of the bomber. With the absence of the existing 20mm cannon (which has already been deleted from most B-52H models already), it has been determined that the bomber should be fitted with a new set of avionics to increase its combat potential. The centerpiece of the avionics upgrade is the Noran Systems AN/APG-288C ELPI radar, which is a first-generation multipurpose ELPI radar that is designed to be used on bombers. When compared to the forward-facing radars of the B-52H, the AN/APG-288C is much more powerful and versatile in various respects. This is also augmented by the AN/APG-288K rear-facing ELPI radar, which is a downsized radar designed to replace the AN/ALR-20 and the AN/ASG-21 positioned on the tail of the B-52. This radar is designed primarily to warn the aircraft of any enemy fighters that may attack from behind the bomber, allowing it to take evasive actions beforehand. To complement the main radar, the EVS of the B-52H has been replaced by the "Griffin Lite", which is a combined EO/IR sensor designed to detect, target, and track ground targets of both stationary and moving types. Elsewhere, a brand-new missile warning system has been fitted to provide the aircraft with a comprehensive missile warning capability, allowing it to fare better against enemy air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles. Finally, the existing ECM of the B-52H has been replaced by the COWS-III, which was one of the first versions of the COWS electronic countermeasures system, consisting of a radar warning receiver, a LADAR (LAser Detection and Ranging) warning receiver, and a powerful radar jammer.

Other parts of the B-52's systems have been also improved. The existing communications systems have been refitted with new secure radios, along with the addition of a new datalinking system. The datalinking system allows the aircraft to exchange vital information and data with other friendly platforms (either directly or through satellite links) as a mean of improving the crew's situational awareness and its combat capabilities against time-critical targets. As well, the majority of the B-52's onboard computers have also been replaced with new databuses and processing units, allowing the carriage of a greater number of precision strike weapons, including the JDAM.

Payload-wise, both the B-52's internal bomb bay and its external heavy stores adapter beam (HSAB) have been completely refitted and revamped. The bomb bay now is fitted with rotary launchers for a variety of munitions, allowing the carriage of up to 42 weapons. Externally, the HSABs have been replaced and replaced by the new heavy ordnance stores (HOS), which can accommodate a greater number of weapons than the HSAB, up to 30. This boosts the maximum weapon carriage capacity of the B-52 to an astonishing 72 weapons. The B-52N can also, in addition to the weapons, accommodate up to two large wingtip-mounted standoff jammer pods. Developed by Noran Systems as the "Loudspeaker", these pods provide the B-52N with a new standoff jamming capability against enemy radars and air defence systems, without interfering with the aircraft's existing ground attack capabilities. Finally, the engines have also been refitted. As opposed to the eight engines carried on the B-52H, the refitted version now have a total of four of the much more powerful MPS-56 turbofans in their place, propelling it to a maximum speed of Mach 0.92. In addition to this, modifications done to the wings allow the carriage of a total of two towed decoys, each typically released in a wingtip bay while still being tied to the aircraft via a lightweight cable. Each of these towed decoys, dragged along behind the aircraft, can degrade the effectiveness of enemy missiles by luring them away from the aircraft and instead go after the decoy itself.

OOC: Was someone asking about an F-14 upgrade? I'm considering that myself. But I want it to be joint with NDI this time, instead of as a "competition".

OOC: Was someone asking about an F-14 upgrade? I'm considering that myself. But I want it to be joint with NDI this time, instead of as a "competition".
OOC: I don't think so - it was an order of the F-14G. On the subject of projects, I'd be more than happy to do joint projects, but I don't think I will have an awful lot of time soon... The B-110 writeup and the B-52 upgrade are going to be the last major ones for a while.

[You know, I still don't understand how the B-110 can carry more nukes than conventional munitions. I mean, the B-83 weighs 2,400 pounds and its dimensions are probably similar to every 2,000-3,000 pound bomb in the US arsenal.]

[You know, I still don't understand how the B-110 can carry more nukes than conventional munitions. I mean, the B-83 weighs 2,400 pounds and its dimensions are probably similar to every 2,000-3,000 pound bomb in the US arsenal.]
OOC: You have to consider this: the B61 was only 716lbs, and that's a weapon with a max yield in the 300s (the strategic version). The W80 warhead, which was on the Tomahawk, had 150kT as an option but was only 290lbs. Accounting for the bomb casing, the Mk.288 is about 500lbs, and the Mk.230 is about 400lbs. So I don't think there is going to be a lot of problems.

[It would probably help for me to post the lineart neh?]

[It would probably help for me to post the lineart neh?]
Not a problem, if you mean the pic.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/jay3135/Hardware/awacs.png
I havea larger one, but Im saving that till I can finsih coloring, work is kicking my ass at the moment though...

OOC: Definitely looks superb, and I'll be eager to see the larger and coloured one.

The Confederacy of Sniper Country would like to purchase:

(256) EB-52N Upgrades [$9,728,000,000]

TOTAL: $9,728,000,000

OOC: Consider it confirmed of course.

OOC: I did, but unfortunately my schedule is increasingly tight right now and any chance of me involving in an extended RP is questionable... and I must apologize dearly for that.
Omz, check out the Collapse of Torontia OOC thread. We're trying to verify who is who involved.

AGM-531A/B Bumblebee New Tactical Air-to-Surface Missile
Replacement For the Maverick Series
Length: 2.8m
Diameter: 26.3cm
Finspan: 56cm
Weight: 318kg
Range: 80km max, 10-50km typical
Speed: Mach 2+
Propulsion: Solid rocket booster with small turbojet
Platforms: Tactical aircraft (triple-round launcher for 2000lb-class hardpoints, 1-round launcher for 500-1000lb class hardpoints)
Guidance: GPS-aided INS with LADAR and imaging IR (A) or MMW radar (B)
Warhead: 120kg penetrating blast fragmentation (A), or 72kg triple-stage HEAT (B)
Cost: $310,000
Developed by OMASC/NDI after a request from the Omzian Air Force seeking a new tactical air-to-surface missile to fulfill the original role that the obsolee Maverick held, the Bumblebee is a new tactical ground attack solution designed to complement existing Skyneedles and MIFAVs to provide Omzian aircraft with a versatile close-in air support weapon. When compared to the Maverick, the Bumblebee is notable for its employment of a slimmer and a stealthy airframe, with compact fins designed to guide the missile to its target with high precision. Another distinction held is its unique propulsion system, with a rocket booster and a small turbojet engine due to recent developments and breakthroughs in the field of miniature jet engines. When compared to other rocket-propelled missiles, this offers much greater range due to fuel efficiency and its "lofted" flight profile. In terms of guidance, the missile is fitted with a standard GPS-aided INS guidance suite, further assisted by a built-in LADAR sensor, and either an imaging IR seeker or a MMW radar. The former tends to offer greater flexibility and versatility, while the latter offers greater reliability and precision in adverse conditions. Albeit being a bit heavier than the Mavericks that it is intended to replace, it can be carried either on a triple, or single round launcher on most tactical multirole aircraft.

AGM-531C Bumblebee-ER New Long-Range Tactical Air-to-Surface Missile
Length: 4.2m
Diameter: 30.2cm
Finspan: 72cm
Weight: 680kg
Range: 220km max
Speed: Mach 2+
Propulsion: Solid rocket booster with small turbofan
Platforms: Tactical aircraft
Guidance: GPS-aided INS with imaging IR and passive radar at terminal
Warhead: 240kg penetrating blast fragmentation, 110kg HEAT, or submunitions
Cost: $360,000
This is a heavier version of the standard Bumblebee, providing greater range and a stronger punch agains the larger targets that it is designed to engage. Noticable additions are a small turbofan, giving greater range; as well as a revised suite of seekers, designed to give the missile improved performance against a variety of targets while also providing it a secondary air defence engagement role.

OoC: TG for you omz

GBU-203A/B Multipurpose Dynamic Heavy Attack Ordnance (MUDHA)
Weight: 16,100kg
Length: 8.2m
Diameter: 1.66m
Range: +50km when dropped from 50,000-60,000ft altitude at high subsonic-low supersonic speed; range increases with altitude and release speed
Guidance: GPS-aided inertial, optional imaging IR at terminal
Explosive Weight: 3600kg penetrating HE or 5400kg thermobaric
Carrier Aircraft: B-101D (3 weapons), B-108A (5 weapons), B-110A (9 weapons)
Cost: $600,000 (allied owners with aforementioned bombers only)

Designed by OMASC in an effort to replace the aging BLU-200 penetrators, the MUDHA is a massive system designed to complement existing systems such as the BLU-201 and the BLU-202. In the class of the Massive Ordnance Penetrator, it is intended to attack the massive fortification and bunker systems that have been prevalent among different nations in the world, giving current Omzian bombers an impressive punch. When compared to the original BLU-200, it is much more shorter but stubbier, allowing more to be fitted with great ease into the bombbay of current Omzian bombers. Due to the slight differing "flight" profile of the two weapons, minor changes have been made to the control surfaces, allowing the weapons to travel over a substantial range while still being guided by a jamming-resistant GPS guidance system. This allows the bombers to launch the weapons outside the range of most medium-range air defence systems, while still ensuring that the bomb hits its target with great precision. The case itself is built with strong metal alloys, with the frontal portion made of tungsten.

Though current capabilities are restricted to attacking ground targets only, it is also believed that the bomb can be modified with an imaging IR seeker for a maritime attack role. Otherwise, it can be made to either fit a 3600kg penetrating high explosive charge, or alternatively a larger 5400kg thermobaric charge. With the former configuration, the weapon can penetrate through more than 75 metres of concrete, though nevertheless this is a very conservative figure.

GBU-204A Special Attack and Demolition Device (SADD)
Weight: 12,800kg
Length: 7.3m
Diameter: 1.57m
Range: +40km when dropped from 50,000-60,000ft altitude at high subsonic-low supersonic speed; range increases with altitude and release speed
Guidance: GPS-aided inertial
Explosive Weight: 9800kg thermobaric
Carrier Aircraft: B-101D (3 weapons), B-108A (6 weapons), B-110A (12 weapons)
Cost: $600,000 (allied owners with aforementioned bombers only)

Intended as a complement to the GBU-203, the SADD is a new weapon designed to replace the MOAB as a heavier, and more potent, alternative in defeating cave-like targets while serving as a psychological weapon against mass troop and population concentrations. It has a much "softer" and lighter casing, and is distinguished by its huge charge, consisting of 9800 kilograms of thermobaric explosive charge. Otherwise, it retains a similar guidance package as the MUDHA, but incorporates the lattice rear control surfaces on the MOAB.

A-102C Stormcrow II Close Air Support Aircraft
Length: 19.6m
Height: 5.57m
Wingspan: 20.9m
Propulsion: Two Hongaz Electrics "Miniplex-MR" non-afterburning turbofans, 28,000lbs of thrust each
Empty Weight: 16,800kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 38,200kg
Crew: One
Ceiling: 50,000ft
Range: 700km with 2.5 hours medium altitude loiter, 800km with 1.2 hour low altitde loiter, 1600km strike, 5500km ferry
Speed: Mach 0.76 maximum
Armaments: One GAR-122 30mm five-barrel electrically-fired cannon (with 1000 rounds of caseless ammunition, at a max of 4800rpm), plus 12,000kg of payload on 1 fuselage pylon, 2 near-engine intake conformal pylons, 4 inboard underwing pylons, 6 outboard underwing pylons, and 2 wingtip air-to-air ordnance stations
Conformal Pylons (Maximum on each): 1x fuel tank, 8x 250lb bombs, 4x 500lb bombs, 3x 1000lb bombs, 1x 2000lb bomb, 2x 21-round 2.75in rocket pods, 1x 10-round MIFAVS dispenser, 1x Bumblebee, 1x Bumblebee-ER, 1x 6-round Skyneedle launcher
Fuselage Pylon: 1x fuel tank, 8x 250lb bombs, 4x 500lb bombs, 2x 1000lb bombs, 1x Bumblebee, 1x 6-round Skyneedle launcher
Inboard Underwing Pylons: 1x fuel tank, 9x 250lb bombs, 4x 500lb bombs, 3x 1000lb bombs, 1x 2000lb bombs, 3x 21-round 2.75in rocket pods, 2x 10-round MIFAVS dispenser, 1x triple-round Bumblebee launcher, 1x Bumblebee-ER, 1x 8-round Skyneedle launcher, 1x heavy CSJ Locust pod, 1x Tigersword-F MRCM (inner four only), 2x Buzzblade, 1x Buzzsaw
Outboard Underwing Pylons: 1x Noran Systems NK62 ECM pod (outer two only), 1x MRAAM, 2x SRAAM, 2x Stararm, 2x 21-round 2.75in rocket pods, 1x 10-round MIFAVS dispenser, 1x flare dispenser pod, 1x chaff dispenser pod
Air-to-Air Ordnance Stations: 1x MRAAM or 1x SRAAM
Unit Cost: $48 million
Export Cost: $60 million (close allies only)

A vastly upgraded version of the A-102A, the A-102C Stormcrow II is a vast aircraft that still retains much of the same role as the original Stormcrow, but with additional, vastly expanded capabilities in the area of precision weapons. One of the first noticeable features is its much larger and revamped airframe, with long-span wings giving the aircraft great low-speed agility and load-bearing capabilities, a bubble canopy offering solid protection and view, a pair of large shrouded engines above and aft of the wings, and two tall vertical stabilizers at the very end. Due to the armoured nature of the aircraft, while composites and even a sparse amount of thermoplastic are still used, much of the aircraft is constructed with metal alloys - most commonly titanium. Armouring is applied throughout the aircraft as a sandwiched structure consisting of titanium, ceramic, and kevlar. This gives the aircraft full protection (i.e. all-around) against 12.7mm and 20mm gunfire, while most of the fuselage and inner portions of the wings are also protected against 27mm and 30mm gunfire. Additional armouring around the engines, the cockpit, and the wing root sections are protected against even 37mm and 40mm fire, and the armouring shroud that the pair of turbofans are located in are also protected against warheads of small man-portable surface-to-air missiles. Computerized damage detection sensors are also located throughout the aircraft, while the fuel tanks are all self-sealing and surrounded by fire-resistant foam. This is complemented by a Halon-based firefighting system near the larger fuel tanks as well as the engine shrouds. RAM is also applied throughout the aircraft to give it a smaller RCS (useful against small radars found on older self-propelled anti-aircraft guns and battlefield missile launchers), while the exhaust passes through specially shaped nozzles and also must pass against the surfaces of the vertical tails, giving the aircraft a smaller IR signature. The engine positioning, as well as the overall airframe and the landing gear systems, are designed to allow the aircraft to operate from small airfields and emergency highway and dirt landing strips as well.

In terms of avionics systems, those found on the A-102C is vastly superior to those on the A-102A, giving it a true all-weather attack as well as precision munitions operating capability. The centerpiece is the Central Target Detection and Tracking Module (CETAD), which is a large pod mounted just aft of the front chin, consisting of a standardized FLIR seeker, night-vision and full-colour day digital television systems, and a laser designator. This allows the aircraft to detect, track, as well as target an array of ground vehicles and other moving and stationary targets, while providing all-weather navigation capabilities as well. Mounted in the nose is a dual LADAR and MMW radar system, which serves as a high-precision and more powerful alternative to the CETAD in detecting and targeting ground, targets. The LADAR also has limited air-to-air capabilities, allowing the operation of BVR air-to-air missiles as a self-defence weapon over medium ranges. Standard radar and LADAR warning systems, as well as an integrated missile launch warning system utilizing IR and UV sensors are included as well. Finally, the aircraft's integrated radio and satellite link systems are also coupled with a "Linkfox" datalinking suite, giving the aircraft great situational awareness while allowing unprecedented coordination with ground and air controllers, among other platforms. In the field of active defensive avionics, an integrated Noran Systems NJ88 radar jammer is included (though this can be further bolstered by another two radar jammer pods mounted externally), as well as a laser-based IR missile countermeasures system. Internal chaff and flare dispensers are integrated as a standard, and a towed decoy can also be installed on the fuselage.

Finally, in regards to weapons, the A-102C offers extensive capabilities in this field. There are a total of 15 external store stations, allowing the carriage of a countless number of ground attack munitions of various kinds. Along with guided missiles, regular iron and cluster bombs can also be used, though both are usually PDAS and WCMD-II models (respectively) with standoff capabilities. A large 30mm cannon is installed as well, giving the aircraft a capability to strafe various ground vehicles and installations if the pilot wishes. However, it must be noted that this is significantly smaller and somewhat less powerful than that of the GAU-8, lending more room to sensors and armour, which are deemed as more valuable since it is doubtful that the aircraft will be able to use its cannon frequently in a modern battlefield dotted with battlefield air defence systems.

[How much?]

[How much?]
OOC: The aircraft? $100 billion - and a joyful Christmas to you!

OOC: The aircraft? $100 billion - and a joyful Christmas to you!

In your write-up you accidently put A-120C and A-120 instead of A-102C and A-102. In your second paragraph at the top. :p And have a Merry Christmas as that was my gift from me to you. :p

OOC: Thanks for pointing it out - and a joyful Christmas to you!

Omz, before I order my missiles and aircrafts, for the F-Dart series, under the Carriage section, it says TEL and other stuff that I really don't understand. Could you explain this terminology to my small brain? :p

Omz, before I order my missiles and aircrafts, for the F-Dart series, under the Carriage section, it says TEL and other stuff that I really don't understand. Could you explain this terminology to my small brain? :p
OOC: TEL is basically a vehicle that transports, sets the missiles into firing position, and fires it in all one package. The usage of ELINT there refers to the fact that it can use information received from special passive sensors (that detects radio and radar transmission from aircraft, etc.) to assist in the targeting and engagement of aircraft. A certain number of TELs makes up a fire section, and a certain number of fire sections makes up a battery, which also includes radars, command posts, etc.

OOC: TEL is basically a vehicle that transports, sets the missiles into firing position, and fires it in all one package. The usage of ELINT there refers to the fact that it can use information received from special passive sensors (that detects radio and radar transmission from aircraft, etc.) to assist in the targeting and engagement of aircraft. A certain number of TELs makes up a fire section, and a certain number of fire sections makes up a battery, which also includes radars, command posts, etc.

Hmm, but there all these different-types of TELs in your descriptions. Which one should I use?

Hmm, but there all these different-types of TELs in your descriptions. Which one should I use?
OOC: Typically only the Falconest and Turtle are available for export, the former of which is much more common, while the latter is more mobile and suited for operation in the battlefield.

OOC: Typically only the Falconest and Turtle are available for export, the former of which is much more common, while the latter is more mobile and suited for operation in the battlefield.

Ah okay. Got it. :) What does the battery that you sell with each missile come with?

[Obviously I'll pay for the new A-102s. Merry X-Mas and a happy New Year!]

Ah okay. Got it. :) What does the battery that you sell with each missile come with?
OOC: The vehicles, spare parts, and technical assistance from OMASC/NDI advisors. The missile will have to be ordered separately.

OOC: The vehicles, spare parts, and technical assistance from OMASC/NDI advisors. The missile will have to be ordered separately.

Ah, okay. Thanks for clarrifying that :)

B-108B Thunderhawk II (Block 20) Propulsion and Weapons Load Upgrade
Length: 79.8m
Height: 24.1m
Wingspan: 46m fully swept, 76.5m extended
Propulsion: Six Hongaz Electrics "Thunderbolt" afterburning turbofans each rated at 65,000lbs
Empty Weight: 268,000kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 643,000kg
Crew: 5 (Pilot, Copilot, Bombardier, two Defensive Systems Operator)
Ceiling: >60,000ft
Range: 11,000km with max payload, 16,000km with standard load
Speed: Mach 2.45 max, Mach 1.5 supercruise at high altitude, Mach 2.1 high-altitude dash, Mach 1.2 low level penetration
Payload: 100,000kg maximum, in three bomb bays (58,000kg with exceptions), two self-defence bays (4000kg), and six external stores stations (38,000kg); 60,000kg standard (32,000kg in bomb bays with exceptions, 4000kg in self-defence bays, 24,000kg on external stores stations)
Self-Defence Armaments: 1x Self-Defence System turret (Mk.2), 2x Apollo high-energy active radar countermeasure system turrets
Unit Cost: $680 million ($70 million upgrade)
Export Cost: $720 million (Allies only)
Description: An upgrade of the B-108A, the B-108B Thunderhawk (Block 20) is a minor but nevertheless significant upgrade. It retains the airframe of the original B-108A, but also gives the rest of the aircraft a whole overhaul in terms of performance and payload carriage. In terms of the actual airframe, the Thunderhawk still retains its original size and compositions in most areas, though in certain critical points of the aircraft, advanced thermoplastics are used instead. Despite this, perhaps the most important aspect of this is the inclusion of six turbofans as opposed to PDE-turbofan hybrids, as concerns had been raised about the maintenance and range problems with the older hybrids, which becomes extremely troubling and thus resulting in a lower operational readiness rate. While this does result in a decrease in speed, it instead greatly boosts the Thunderhawk's operational range and reliability, in addition to allowing the presence of a smaller IR signature as well as RCS (due to the new inlet designs, even with the ramps). Each three of these engines are also now mounted in a giant "pod" (similar to those of the B-110), which is lightly armoured and incorporates a computer-controlled fire prevention and fighting system, consisting of IR and UV sensors around the engines and Halon. Aside from this, certain fuel tanks are also enlargened. In the area of crew operations, the bomber now has a total of five crews, due to the changes in the other systems.

In terms of avionics, due to costs and the fact that the original B-108A's avionics is already state-of-the-art, it has been decided that most of the current avionics would be retained. Despite this, the electronic countermeasures systems are expanded, giving the aircraft greater survivability in heavily defended environments.

In regards to the bomber's payload carriage capabilities, this is where the other changes have been made. Though the bomb bays and self-defence bays are retained, the compact rotary launcher bay has been deemed as unnecessary, and thus deleted. The external stores stations have also been repositioned, with four on fuselages and two on the wing gloves, allowing greater payload carriage capabilities. The ones on the wing gloves can also each accept one ECM jammer pod, the Noran Systems NK58, allowing the B-108B to function as an effective airborne jamming platform. In regards to the self-defence turrets, the chin one has been deleted, and instead the remaining tail turret is augmented by two new Apollo high-energy active radar countermeasure system turrets (which is an electric disturbance system that emits high-energy bursts against enemy radars and communication arrays to neutralise them), one on the chin and one on the top at the aft section of the fuselage.

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Armament Carriages - Reference
(Note: If the bomber carries the MUDHA, the SADD, or/and the BLU-201A/B, then external armaments carriage capabilities are disabled)
Weapons Bay (Standard/Max)
-3x/6x GBU-203A/B MUDHA heavy penetrator (1x/2x per bay)
-4x/7x GBU-204A SADD demolition bomb
-2x/4x BLU-201A/B 'Superbomb'
-9x/12x 8000lb PDAS-Penetrator (3x/4x per bay)
-75x/135x Mk.288 Thermonuclear Bomb (25x/45x each bay)
-162x/270x Mk.230 Thermonuclear Bomb (54x/90x each bay)
-75x/135x Mk.178 Runway Attack Munition (25x/45x each bay)
-36x/60x 2000lb PDAS (12x/20x per bay)
-36x/60x 2000lb PDAS-Napalm (12x/20x per bay)
-36x/60x 2000lb PDAS-FAE (12x/20x per bay)
-36x/60x 2000lb PDAS-Penetrator (12x/20x per bay)
-36x/60x 2000lb Mk.89 CAPTOR (12x/20x per bay)
-75x/135x 1000lb PDAS (25x/45x each bay)
-162x/270x 500lb PDAS (54x/90x each bay)
-330x/540x 250lb SPDAS (110x/180x each bay)
-45x/84x CBU-203/B or CBU-87/B (15x/28x each bay)
-45x/84x CBU-204/B or CBU-89/B (15x/28x each bay)
-45x/84x CBU-205/B or CBU-97/B (15x/28x each bay)
-45x/84x CBU-207/B (15x/28x each bay)
-45x/84x CBU-208/B (15x/28x each bay)
-45x/84x CBU-209/B (15x/28x each bay)
-21x/36x CSJ Chevalier HAM (7x/12x per bay)
-3x/6x Meteor-G ASMs (1x/2x each bay)
-18x/30x Roundel ASMs (6x/10x each bay)
-6x/9x Longaxe ASM/ALCMs (2x/3x each bay)
-2x/4x Arquebus II ALCMs
-2x/4x Triton ALBM
-21x/36x SGAM SALMs (7x/12x per bay)
-45x/84x Bumblebee-ER LR-ASM (15x/28x each bay)
-18x/27x Tigersword-E/G ALCM (6x/9x each bay)
-30x/54x Tigersword-F LALCM (10x/18x each bay)
-6x/9x Tigersword-H ASM (2x/3x each bay)

External Pylons (Total)
-2x ECM / Radar Jammer Pods (1x each station, wing gloves only)
-60x AIM-509B Starfall II MRAAM (10x each station)
-48x AIM-510B Starshell II LRAAM (8x each station)
-36x AIM-511B Starburst II ELRAAM (6x each station)
-6x 8000lb PDAS-Penetrator (1x each station)
-48x/90x Mk.288 Thermonuclear Bomb (0.2-50kT) (8x/15x each station)
-96x/180x Mk.230 Thermonuclear Bomb (0.05-30kT) (16x/30x each station)
-48x/90x Mk.178 Runway Attack Munition (8x/15x each station)
-24x/42x 2000lb PDAS (4x/7x each station)
-24x/42x 2000lb PDAS-Napalm (4x/7x each station)
-24x/42x 2000lb PDAS-FAE (4x/7x each station)
-24x/42x 2000lb PDAS-Penetrator (4x/7x each station)
-24x/42x 2000lb Mk.98 CAPTOR (4x/7x each station)
-48x/90x 1000lb PDAS (8x/15x each station)
-96x/180x 500lb PDAS (16x/30x each station)
-36x/54x CBU-203/B or CBU-87/B (6x/9x each station)
-36x/54x CBU-204/B or CBU-89/B (6x/9x each station)
-36x/54x CBU-205/B or CBU-97/B (6x/9x each station)
-36x/54x CBU-207/B (6x/9x each station)
-36x/54x CBU-208/B (6x/9x each station)
-36x/54x CBU-209/B (6x/9x each station)
-18x/24x CSJ Chevalier HAM (3x/4x each station)
-3x/5x Meteor-G ASMs
-12x/18x Roundel ASMs (2x/3x each station)
-3x/6x Longaxe ASM/ALCMs
-2x/3x Arquebus II ALCMs
-2x/3x Triton ALBMs
-18x/24x SGAM ALMs (3x/4x each station)
-36x/54x Bumblebee-ER LR-ASM (6x/9x each station)
-24x/42x Buzzsaw ARM ((4x/7x each station)
-48x/90x Buzzblade ARM (8x/15x each station)
-12x/18x Tigersword-E/G ALCM (2x/3x each station)
-18x/30x Tigersword-F LALCM (3x/5x each station)
-3x/6x Tigersword-H ASM
-Additional fuel tanks or transport pods

Self-Defence Bays
-18x Starfall II MRAAM (9x per bay)
-10x Starshell II LRAAM (5x per bay)
-10x decoy drones (5x each bay)

[I'm curious, would it be possible to do the Block 20 upgrade with newer PDE-Turbofan engines, like those on the F-120B?]

[I'm curious, would it be possible to do the Block 20 upgrade with newer PDE-Turbofan engines, like those on the F-120B?]
OOC: It is possible if you'd like, but then most of the positive features of the upgrade would be nullified. The B-108B upgrade's centerpiece is the removal of the PDE-turbofans, which are supposed to lower costs and maintenance and also result in a longer range and room for other improvements (i.e. payload).

[Well, I think even the most powerful fighter engines are going to be smaller than all-out bomber engines. Using the most powerful PDE-Turbo fighter engine you've come up with (either the one of the F-125H or F-120B) and you should have some extra space for fuel, at the very least.

As for cost, well, I think that using already existing engines will offset any advantages a normal turbofan will offer.

Btw, I don't know if I ever asked you about this, but have you considered a channel-wing aircraft that could function in the same role as the S-3 Viking? The features of the channel-wing make it extremely suitable as basis for a carrier-borne submarine hunter.]

[Well, I think even the most powerful fighter engines are going to be smaller than all-out bomber engines. Using the most powerful PDE-Turbo fighter engine you've come up with (either the one of the F-125H or F-120B) and you should have some extra space for fuel, at the very least.
OOC: The problem is that even considering the size reduction with a PDE-engine of a similar power, something like a PDE isn't good in terms of fuel consumption and reliability. Either way, no matter how geared-up your supply chains, etc. are suited to PDEs, it will still be a headache especially when swing-wing designs alone are already maintenace intensive. The speed advantage is there with the PDE, but I figured that the aircraft could use some more stealth characteristics. So hence why I've substituted regular turbofans and that the B-101D and the B-106 will be the only bombers produced by OMASC/NDI that are still with PDE-turbofan engines.

As for cost, well, I think that using already existing engines will offset any advantages a normal turbofan will offer.
Not in the long term. Yes, you are going to have to work to adapt to the older engines in the short-term, but in the long term it won't be that much of a pain.

Btw, I don't know if I ever asked you about this, but have you considered a channel-wing aircraft that could function in the same role as the S-3 Viking? The features of the channel-wing make it extremely suitable as basis for a carrier-borne submarine hunter.]
To be honest I haven't thought that much about channel-wings as a feasible military application. I'm not really sure whether it will work with similar effects or not with jet engines (considering current channel-wing designs are all props), and I also remember reading about the noise and airframe fatigue problems associated with the design. The advantages of the channel-wing designs, mostly the STOL capabilities IIRC, doesn't really mean much on carriers - it will probably be good on light carriers, but that's about it.

[*shrugs* Whatever. Can the physical changes with the inlets and the like be done with the PDEs still installed?]

[*shrugs* Whatever. Can the physical changes with the inlets and the like be done with the PDEs still installed?]
OOC: Maybe, but then you still have a very big IR signature. Either way I can't see anything overly good about PDEs on an upgraded B-108 airframe, though there are certain advantages such as speed.

[Well, I don't mind the IR signature so much. I mean, if I want to reduce that I can make sure the bomber stays subsonic until the penetration run. The only point to a supersonic bomber is speed, so keeping that as much as possible is going to be my number one goal.

Anyway, if you go ahead and design the PDE version of the upgrade, call it the Block 15 or something, since it won't incorporate everything that the Block 20 does, at least in the way of engines and improved load.]

OOC: I'll see to a PDE variant of the B-108B, the B-108C perhaps. For the sake of sanity, I'm going to keep the payload as it is, but others are going to be cut with the exception of speed of course.

Okay, the PDE version.

B-108C Thunderhawk (Block 20E) Upgrade
Length: 79.8m
Height: 24.1m
Wingspan: 46m fully swept, 76.5m extended
Propulsion: Six Hongaz Electrics "Thrustmas-EX" PDE-turbofans each rated at 74,000lbs
Empty Weight: 272,000kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 642,000kg
Crew: 5 (Pilot, Copilot, Bombardier, two Defensive Systems Operator)
Ceiling: >60,000ft
Range: 8,000km with max payload, 13,000km with standard load
Speed: Mach 2.62 max, Mach 1.55 supercruise at high altitude, Mach 2.25 high-altitude dash, Mach 1.3 low level penetration
Payload: 100,000kg maximum, in three bomb bays (58,000kg with exceptions), two self-defence bays (4000kg), and six external stores stations (38,000kg); 60,000kg standard (32,000kg in bomb bays with exceptions, 4000kg in self-defence bays, 24,000kg on external stores stations)
Self-Defence Armaments: 3x Apollo high-energy active radar countermeasure system turrets (1 chin, 1 tail, 1 upper aft fuselage)
Avionics: (Same as B-108B)
Unit Cost: $720 million ($90 million upgrade)
Export Cost: $750 million (Allies only)

OOC: If you have any OOC questions for me, then please TG it into my TG box. If I received a TG, then I should be able to know it in a certain amount of time. Thanks.

To: OMASC
From: Chief-of-Military Manjit Kaur,
Department of Defense,
Federative Sikh Republic of Space Union
Subject: Missile Order

Once again, we greet our friends in OMASC. We are proud to say we are here to file another order for missile technology from our fine friends in OMASC. After much deliberation, and seeing your new catalogue of missile and munitions, we are pleased to make the following order:

20,000 MIM-506J Flamedart II Ultra-Long Range SAMS
30,000 MIM-506K Firedart II Long-Range SAMS
40,000 MIM-506L Foxdart II Medium (Intermediate)-Range SAMS
1,600,000 AIM-508B Starshield II
1,400,000 AIM-509B Starfall II
1,200,000 AIM-510B Starshell II
1,000,000 AIM-511B Starburst II
40,000 BGM-503B Arquebus II Long Range Cruise Missile
10,000 AGM-518A Triton Long Range Air-Launched Ballistic Missile
20,000 RGM-356C Hailstorm-C Ultraheavy Hypersonic Attack Missile
40,000 BGM-502 Longaxe Medium Range Cruise Missile
20,000 AGM/RGM/UGM-321G Meteor-G Multiplatform Heavy Antiship Missile
40,000 RGM-355H Meteor-H Surface-Launched Ultraheavy Antiship Missile
2,000,000 AGM-531C Bumblebee-ER New Long-Range Tactical Air-to-Surface Missile
4,000,000 AGM-531A/B Bumblebee New Tactical Air-to-Surface Missile
50,000 BGM-322 Dagger Multiplatform Hypersonic Penetrator Missile Systems Series
100,000 BGM-323 Little Dagger
60,000 AGM-326B/C Buzzsaw Air-Launched Air Defence Suppression Missile
100,000 AGM-326D/E Buzzblade Air-Launched Anti-Radiation Missile

This gigantic order, as you probably can see, will be used to make up our full-suite of missiles and attack munition for the Space Union Air Force, for the foreseeable future. After calculations, we have found the price to come out to a grand total of $11,893,000,000,000 or $11.893 trillion. Since we appropriated only $10 trillion for new missile orders, we will have to ask that we be allowed to pay the $10 trillion now and then next year to pay the remaining $1.893 trillion. We hope this method is fine for you.

We thank you again for producing such fine missiles of such high-quality. We are sorry that this order is huge and so it might put restrains on your production lines. To offset this, we are willing to manufacture half of these at home. Please contact us on what you think is the best course of action. Thank You.

Signed,
Chief-of-Military,
Manjit Kaur

OOC: Damn, forgot to post this long ago. Also I realise this is a huge order, so if it isn't possible to produce this much, I'm willing to cut this in half. If so, you don't need my premission and just act like that we cut it in half. Also this order comes before the economic crisis in Space Union, but if that's not applicable, I'm using this for ModernWarStudio's WorldAtWar so this wouldn't be made by NS Space Union but MWS Space Union, which isn't having an economic problems. Hope you understand. :)

OOC: I do agree that this is probably too much, but I'm not sure if I can even produce 1 million of them in one single stroke - even if I produce 100 of them per day, it would take 30 years to deliver about that much. Also, for clarification, I don't interact with non-NS roleplays, but if you wish to use it there, I don't ahve any problems. For now, if you are willing to cut it to a manageable level, then it'll be fine and I'll confirm it :)

Don't bother with the costs if you don't want to, I'll figure it out when I have the time. For now, apologies for the absense of an IC post, but it is certainly great to see the SU military making such a huge order.

OOC: I do agree that this is probably too much, but I'm not sure if I can even produce 1 million of them in one single stroke - even if I produce 100 of them per day, it would take 30 years to deliver about that much. Also, for clarification, I don't interact with non-NS roleplays, but if you wish to use it there, I don't ahve any problems. For now, if you are willing to cut it to a manageable level, then it'll be fine and I'll confirm it :)

Don't bother with the costs if you don't want to, I'll figure it out when I have the time. For now, apologies for the absense of an IC post, but it is certainly great to see the SU military making such a huge order.

OOC: Ah, yes, never underestimate the power of OMASC's production capability. ;) I'll do this, I'll cut it by 1/4 for all the missiles so the price would be $2,973,250,000,000 or $2.97325 trillion. Would that work? I'm willing to cut even further if nessessary. :) And expect me to come later for those carrier-fighters I'll be needing. I would've included them in this, but I had already figured these stats out long ago and I was being lazy tonight. :p

OOC: If I am not mistaken, the total numbero f missiles ordered is around 11.74 million... A cut by a factor of say, 6-8, might bring it down enough to make a 30-year delivery possible. As for the costs, it doesn't decrease linearly - but don't bother with it unless you don't think it is a hassle.

As for the carrier fighters, good to hear! Unfortunately, OMASC will not have any new products for a substantial period of time until I can recover from government exams and finals :(

OOC: If I am not mistaken, the total numbero f missiles ordered is around 11.74 million... A cut by a factor of say, 6-8, might bring it down enough to make a 30-year delivery possible. As for the costs, it doesn't decrease linearly - but don't bother with it unless you don't think it is a hassle.

As for the carrier fighters, good to hear! Unfortunately, OMASC will not have any new products for a substantial period of time until I can recover from government exams and finals :(

What if I cut it by 1/10th from the origional order? Actually, it doesn't really matter how long because the longer it takes the longer I"ll have missiles for. See I'm not going to be using all those missiles up in one day. I'll be using less missiles than the production capability put outs, so that would allow me to stockpile in excess. I think that would work, not sure, but still if you want I"m willin to cut around 8-10.

As for the linearly, I think it would. See lets just use some simple math: 2+2+2+2 is equal to 8. Now if we were to decrease it by 1/2 it would equal four. Now say we had 2+2 it would equal 4. Same result. As for the fighters, expect it in a little while. :)

On a side note, hope you do good on those exams and finals. :)

OOC: The problem is production, not the usage of missiles. Despite the size of OMASC's production chains, producing a hundred or two per day is still going to be a stretch, considering that other orders (i.e. domestic orders, etc.) also have to be fulfilled at all. That said, what I meant is that I wouldn't have a problem if the new order is about 6-8 times less than the previous one.

As for the costs, the problem is that you might not be able to necessarily reduce the numbers of every missile by a certain integer - some numbers won't divide into others without leaving a remainder. Of coruse though, if you reduce it by a factor of 10 then things can apply that way as you describe.

OOC: The problem is production, not the usage of missiles. Despite the size of OMASC's production chains, producing a hundred or two per day is still going to be a stretch, considering that other orders (i.e. domestic orders, etc.) also have to be fulfilled at all. That said, what I meant is that I wouldn't have a problem if the new order is about 6-8 times less than the previous one.

As for the costs, the problem is that you might not be able to necessarily reduce the numbers of every missile by a certain integer - some numbers won't divide into others without leaving a remainder. Of coruse though, if you reduce it by a factor of 10 then things can apply that way as you describe.

Alright, just decrease my first order by 10 times. That should do it along with the cost will come to a final: $1,189,300,000,000. Is that fine?

No problems of course. Delivery should probably be over by 25 years perhaps?

On a side note, hope you do good on those exams and finals. :)
Thanks!

No problems of course. Delivery should probably be over by 25 years perhaps?

Hehe, that sounds good. :p

Thanks!

No prob. Looking forward to more of your designs. Talking about designs, since I'm a lazy person and don't feel like writing an IC post, I'll just order in OOC form. I'm looking at ordering 5,000 F-109D Seafurys. This is just my first order and if I need more of these babies, I'll come knocking again. That comes to a total of $750 billion for these fighters. Just add that with my other missile costs to get the final costs. I might also order your Skyfury because my SuF/A-7 is going to be pretty expensive so I might not be able to field as many as I want so the Skyfury would be able to fill the rest of the roles as well.

Also a queston, what does the B-110 fill in your bomber form? What niche? I know you operate the B-101, B-105, B-108, and B-110, but that's a lot of different aircrafts. I'm asking since I need to figure out a couple of things for my own bomber classes and who better to ask than our very own Omz. ;)

No prob. Looking forward to more of your designs. Talking about designs, since I'm a lazy person and don't feel like writing an IC post, I'll just order in OOC form. I'm looking at ordering 5,000 F-109D Seafurys. This is just my first order and if I need more of these babies, I'll come knocking again. That comes to a total of $750 billion for these fighters.
OOC: No problem, that is confirmed.

Just add that with my other missile costs to get the final costs. I might also order your Skyfury because my SuF/A-7 is going to be pretty expensive so I might not be able to field as many as I want so the Skyfury would be able to fill the rest of the roles as well.
Keep in mind though, that the Skyfury is more of a STOVL jet rather than a tactical fighter, though I don't clearly remember what your SuF/A-7 was for :p

Also a queston, what does the B-110 fill in your bomber form? What niche? I know you operate the B-101, B-105, B-108, and B-110, but that's a lot of different aircrafts. I'm asking since I need to figure out a couple of things for my own bomber classes and who better to ask than our very own Omz. ;)
The Omzian Global Strategic Air Command fields four bombers: the B-101, which is designed to penetrate enemy airspace with its very high speed and ECM suite to strike military targets and heavily-defended, high-value targets; the B-108, which is designed as a general, multirole bomber designed to conduct a wide variety of tasks while operating at a variety of altitudes, including the strike of a wide range of ground targets; and the B-110, which replaced the smaller B-105 (less reliable and overall more costly) in the heavy bomber role, and now serves in the cruise-missile carrying and close air support role with both long-range missiles and precision strike munitions; and the B-106, a small, B-58 type bomber designed to strike regional targets and conduct maritime interdiction operations. The B-110's speed is obviously quite slow, but it is heavily protected, armed, and very reliable and versatile.

OOC: No problem, that is confirmed.

Thanks :)

Keep in mind though, that the Skyfury is more of a STOVL jet rather than a tactical fighter, though I don't clearly remember what your SuF/A-7 was for :p

Yeah, I know. The SuF/A-7 is the single-engine variant of the SuF/A-6 Wraith, being lighter, cheaper, and more versatile but it is still pretty expensive. Suppose to complement the SuF/A-6.

The Omzian Global Strategic Air Command fields four bombers: the B-101, which is designed to penetrate enemy airspace with its very high speed and ECM suite to strike military targets and heavily-defended, high-value targets; the B-108, which is designed as a general, multirole bomber designed to conduct a wide variety of tasks while operating at a variety of altitudes, including the strike of a wide range of ground targets; and the B-110, which replaced the smaller B-105 (less reliable and overall more costly) in the heavy bomber role, and now serves in the cruise-missile carrying and close air support role with both long-range missiles and precision strike munitions; and the B-106, a small, B-58 type bomber designed to strike regional targets and conduct maritime interdiction operations. The B-110's speed is obviously quite slow, but it is heavily protected, armed, and very reliable and versatile.

Okay, thanks a bunch. That helps a lot. :)

Also, why don't you stop by in my economic thread and open up a factory or gain some land in Space Union for OMASC? It could expand your capabilites. :)

OOC: Good point, but that all depends on time:(

OOC: Good point, but that all depends on time:(

OOC: Ah, time is something you seem to lack. ;) But anyways, stop by when you do get some time. There's a bidding war going on right now. ;)

[Omz, sorry to say it, but Christmas shopping has dried up all my funds, so I'm currently unable to buy that e-book. However, I might be able to go to Borders and take some notes if they have a copy.

Also, do you have anything coming out in the near future?]

[Omz, sorry to say it, but Christmas shopping has dried up all my funds, so I'm currently unable to buy that e-book. However, I might be able to go to Borders and take some notes if they have a copy.

Also, do you have anything coming out in the near future?]
OOC: When things get much less frantic around mid-February, I am planning a B-110 upgrade, some new missiles, (maybe) a new Eurofighter-type as a lighter multirole complement to the Unity/Seafury (I am actually planning to replace all my Unitys with the Seafury), (maybe) a B-106 upgrade, and (maybe) a B-101 upgrade.

I might also have additional EW and tanker versions for the Seafury, along with a min-AWACS Skyfury variant. Maybe not.

[Well, if you're doing missiles, I'm currently designing a Mk46 CAMDS and need a missile to base it around. A modification of the Slingshot II would be ideal.]

OT: I know I should be studying more, but ehh...

AGM-325B Supersonic Standoff Ground Attack Missile, Mark II (SGAM II)
Length: 4.5m
Diameter: 52cm
Weight: 1510kg
Guidance: Inertial with GPS, imaging IR and passive radar-homing seeker at terminal
Propulsion: Loran Propulsions PB82 pulse detonation engine
Speed: Mach 5.6
Range: 580km high altitude, 240km low altitude; 500km air attack
Altitude: 80ft in low altitude profile, 75,000+ ft high altitude (Bombardier launch ~100,000ft, Thunderhawk Launch ~85,000ft, Archstream Launch ~75,000ft)
Profiles: Hi-Hi-Dive, Hi-Hi-Lo, or Hi-Lo-Lo
Warhead: 320kg blast fragmentation or 230kg penetrator

After much progress in upgrading the other types of munitions deployed by the bombers in the Omzian Air Force's Global Strategic Air Command, the Omzian Air Force proceeded to look for a replacement for the SGAM. The original SGAM, an air-launched supersonic missile designed to replace the SRAM, served vital roles in attacking air defence sites and other high-value targets in the event of a strategic-scale air attack against enemy nations. After an initial scramjet-based proposal was rejected due to technical difficulties, OMASC/NDI began work on a direct upgrade of the existing SGAM, named the SGAM II, with the requirements being greater performance and range, added ability in attacking air-based airships and large AWACS aircraft, and near-identical dimensions as the original SGAM.

The final product met, and in many cases exceeded, the expectations of many Omzian Air Force officers. Powered by a new, and fuel-efficient (when compared to the older engine types) pulse detonation engine to near-hypersonic speeds, the missile has a very aerodynamically clean configuration, with small fins and a "bending body" system as an alternative to thrust-vectoring. Though infrared signatures are typical of other missiles of such types, the airframe design and applied RAM makes it a difficult target to detect and engage for enemy radars. At the same time, its high speed, relatively long range, and varied attack profiles make it an excellent munitions for attacking early warning air defence assets, surface-to-air missile launchers and associated vehicles, and high value targets of both tactical and strategic significance, greatly increasing the power of existing Omzian bombers in terms of short-range attack capabilities against a large number of different targets. During flight - which is either at a very high altitude or a much lower one - it is guided by a GPS-aided INS suite, which not only allows great precision but also permits retargeting enroute by bomber crews, over an aircraft-to-missile datalink. After a long flight that may include flying over up to six distinct waypoints (to increase element of surprise), it may dive down or fly directly into the target, detonating its relatively powerful warhead. Though the passive radar-homing seeker makes it an useful long-range anti-radiation weapon, it can also be fooled shall the enemy turn off the targeted radar - this is where both the GPS and the terminal imaging IR seeker will come into play, the former remembering the last location of the emitter while the latter targeting parts of the air defence battery during the missile's terminal stage. An additional airburst option is also available for the warhead, increasing damage against certain targets (i.e. soft-skinned vehicles, etc.).

Also, in the tradition of a cancelled American SRAM successor, an air attack capability is added to the missile. Despite its relative bulkiness, it is also fairly maneuverable, giving it a solid capability against unmaneuverable, subsonic targets such as large airborne early warning platforms as well as airships. In this case, if the missile is fired against either targets, mid-course guidance information will be fed to the missile from the aircraft as the missile flies in a lofted profile. Once it gets into range to activate its own seekers, it will dive down onto the target, detonating its warhead either at close ranges or penetrating the target itself (if it is an airship-type target). All in all, though other types of long-range anti-AWACS missiles are still preferred normally in such roles, this added capability allows bombers to attack enemy AWACS aircraft that might be coordinating the other side's air-based air defence efforts.

As of right now, the missile is deployed in the Omzian Air Force following an initial production batch of 4800 units, with a much larger order coming. Carriage capacities are 36 or 27 for the Bombardier II, 60 or 39 for the Thunderhawk II, up to 102 or 66 for the Archstream, 9 for the Warcrow, 8 for the Barsuk, or the Kunai and the Bateleur if necessary.

AGM-325B Tactical Supersonic Standoff Ground Attack Missile (TactSGAM)
Length: 2.9m
Diameter: 43cm
Weight: 920kg
Guidance: Inertial with GPS, imaging IR and passive radar-homing seeker at terminal
Propulsion: Loran Propulsions PB50K pulse detonation engine
Speed: Mach 4.8
Range: 420km high altitude, 180km low altitude; 360km air attack
Altitude: 80ft in low altitude profile, 75,000+ ft high altitude (Bombardier launch ~900,000ft, Thunderhawk Launch ~85,000ft, Archstream Launch ~75,000ft)
Profiles: Hi-Hi-Dive, Hi-Hi-Lo, or Hi-Lo-Lo
Warhead: 200kg blast fragmentation or 170kg penetrator

The TactSGAM is essentially a smaller version of the much larger SGAM II, featuring 90% commonality with the SGAM II with the exception of smaller engines and warhead, a revised guidance system, and stubbier airframe. Interestingly, its dimensions and weight are designed to be in the class of the Mk.84, allowing carriage on an assortment of tactical aircraft if necessary. Nevertheless, it still offers greater performance than the SGAM in some respects - including 60 or 45 for the Bombardier II, 102 or 60 for the Thunderhawk II, up to 168 or 102 for the Archstream, 12 for the Warcrow, or 12 for the Barsuk.

[*prod*]

OOC: SGAM interests you, I take it?

[Maybe, I'll have to compare it to what I have. However, what I really need, is a RAM type missile for my new CAMDS.]

OOC: That'll really depend on time, but I'll consider it.

whew! ah! Must have shiny missiles of destruction! :)

OOC: Omz222, I think in the Torontia rp before you left, you mentioned that the concept of a stealth blimp as a transport was absurd...why is that?

OOC: Omz222, I think in the Torontia rp before you left, you mentioned that the concept of a stealth blimp as a transport was absurd...why is that?
OOC: I don't recall that I ever made such a comment, but depending on the implementation and how the design was used, it may or may not be possible as you could still implement measures to make it stealthier. It is possible to make airships a transportation tool (if that's what you mean, since blimps are only a subtype), and a very capable one depending on its size.

OOC: Ah, found the post I was refering to. It wasn't you who said it - it was your IC former mortal nemesis turned friend Sniper Country. Click! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10163619&postcount=993) And here's the article (http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/black_triangle_020805.html) McKagan was talking about.

UberPenguinLandReturns would like to order 5 C-78 Pelicans.

UberPenguinLandReturns would like to order 5 C-78 Pelicans.

Official Confirmation of Contract, OMASC/NDI
To: UberPenguinLandReturns
From: OMASC/NDI Procurement Office, OF Foreign War Materiel Sales Control Board

We are more than thankful for the attention as well as interest received from your nation, and we are deeply grateful for your sincere interest in our aerospace products. We can find nothing in your nation's background that would have raised some forms of alarm bells or another, and therefore we can only approve your request. The total cost has been confirmed at a total of $138 million dollars including delivery costs and the expenditures for maintenance equipment and accessories (for thirty-five years of operation), and the five (5) aircraft are right now under construction at our Gonara Plant. It is expected that after the reception of the aforementioned funds, delivery will begin a month after the reception, and be completed three weeks after the reception date.

As well, OMASC/NDI in conjunction with the Omzian Air Force also offers a cargo aircraft crew's training program for pilots as well as loadmasters to our customers, and as a gift, we can provide free training to five (5) sets of crews so that they can all proficently operate the ordered aircraft with expertise.

Once again, thank you for the interests offered, and our best luck to your air force as well as the people that will be handling our aircraft.

Norman Parker,
OMASC/NDI Procurement Office

===================

OOC: Ah, found the post I was refering to. It wasn't you who said it - it was your IC former mortal nemesis turned friend Sniper Country. Click! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10163619&postcount=993) And here's the article (http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/black_triangle_020805.html) McKagan was talking about.
OOC: Again, you could make a stealthy blimp or a rigid airship, and I think in the article they were referring to a rigid-hull airship. But then again, in the end it all depends on the execution and how the airship itself was RPed out.

To OMASC
From: Office of Foreign Purchases, Teh Ninjas
The Empire is currently attempting to rearm our FDI built fleets. Upon review of your merchandise we came upon several items that we believe could be of great use in our navy. Our order is as follows:
20,000 RIM-506G Flamearrow II Ultra-Long Range Naval SAM@8M=160B
20,000 RIM-506H Firearrow II Intermediate Range Naval SAM@8M=160B
40,000 RIM-506I Foxarrow II Medium Range and Missile Defence Naval SAM@4M=160B

Total-480 Billion

We understand that this is an extremely large order, therefore we wish to inquire if it would be possible to establish a short term building permit inwhich we would assist in the construction of these missiles in our factories. Once the permit expires the blueprints and all related material will be returned.

Also due to the cost of this order we wish to pay off the order in a twelve year period inwhich we would pay 40 billion dollars each year. Please let us know if this is possible.

To OMASC
From: Office of Foreign Purchases, Teh Ninjas
The Empire is currently attempting to rearm our FDI built fleets. Upon review of your merchandise we came upon several items that we believe could be of great use in our navy. Our order is as follows:
20,000 RIM-506G Flamearrow II Ultra-Long Range Naval SAM@8M=160B
20,000 RIM-506H Firearrow II Intermediate Range Naval SAM@8M=160B
40,000 RIM-506I Foxarrow II Medium Range and Missile Defence Naval SAM@4M=160B

Total-480 Billion

We understand that this is an extremely large order, therefore we wish to inquire if it would be possible to establish a short term building permit inwhich we would assist in the construction of these missiles in our factories. Once the permit expires the blueprints and all related material will be returned.

Also due to the cost of this order we wish to pay off the order in a twelve year period inwhich we would pay 40 billion dollars each year. Please let us know if this is possible.

Official Confirmation of Contract, OMASC/NDI
To: Office of Foreign Purchases, Teh Ninjas
From: OMASC/NDI Procurement Office, Omzian Forces Foreign War Materiel Sales Control Board

Having previously received orders from your respectable nation, and noting the possession of FDI-built vessels compatible with the aforementioned weapon systems, we have zero objection to your request and in fact is humbly grateful for your interest. We do appreciate the understanding of our potential troubles exhibited by our friends in Teh Ninjas, and if Teh Ninjas wishes, that is possible at an additional cost of $2 billion for the technical assistance and dispatch of a large team of Omzian engineers and technical personnel. Nevertheless, this alternative choice could reduce the shipping cost from around $5 billion to $2 billion, and the time it would take for all units to be delivered would shorten from around eleven years to around seven. If the proposal is accepted, then we are willing to permit the construction of exactly 20,000 Foxarrow IIs and 10,000 Firearrow IIs domestically in Teh Ninjas.

As well, we are perfectly fine with the payment plan, provided that the aforementioned extra costs are included, depending on which choice is preferred by Teh Ninjas.

As we eagerly await for a response, once again our thanks to our friends in Teh Ninjas for their humble interest and attention, and we wish to bid good luck to our friends in their future endeavours.

Hongazerie Konarez,
OMASC National Defence Industries Procurement Office

To OMASC
From: Office of Foreign Purchases, Teh Ninjas

The proposal is accepted and the funds required for our order is being transferred as we speak. A security team shall wait at the Port of Orlinja and escort your engineers and technicians to the appropiate factories in Teh Ninjas. We thank OMASC for providing us with the weaponry needed to ensure our national security.

The funds are being sent as we speak.

UberPenguinLandReturns

[Hey Omz, I've been reorganizing my armed forces and preparing for an expansion/reorganization of my Aerospace Force. As a result of this, I have several thousand excess airframes that I intend to recycle. I need to know the recycle value of the following airframes: B-108B, C-115, C-117, and C-116.]

[Hey Omz, I've been reorganizing my armed forces and preparing for an expansion/reorganization of my Aerospace Force. As a result of this, I have several thousand excess airframes that I intend to recycle. I need to know the recycle value of the following airframes: B-108B, C-115, C-117, and C-116.]
OOC: We could buy back the airframes at around 25% (or 30% for the bombers) of the original prices if you'd like, depending on their state and quality. Cannibalizing the airframes for spare parts is another matter, and probably would reduce the recycle prices, but would give your air force extra spare parts to work with.

[All the aircraft are in pretty good shape because my AF hasn't seen much action. I will have 1,152 B-108B, 6,336 C-115, 1,152 C-117, and 3,168 airframes available for buyback/recycling. Also, I need the unit production costs for the B-106 and RF-125D.]

[All the aircraft are in pretty good shape because my AF hasn't seen much action. I will have 1,152 B-108B, 6,336 C-115, 1,152 C-117, and 3,168 airframes available for buyback/recycling. Also, I need the unit production costs for the B-106 and RF-125D.]
OOC: I would have made the B-108B much higher ,but keep in mind that it is a swing-wing aircraft and is designed with low-level operation in mind - such features tend to take a toll in terms of maintenance. Nevertheless, I shall accept the offer.

As for the unit costs, the B-106 is at $280 mil, and the RF-125D at $95 mil.

[Omz, I pulled a total brainfart and lost track of how many air forces I had. Availability is actually the following: 720 B-108B, 5,760 C-115, 720 C-117, 2,880 C-116.]

[Omz, I pulled a total brainfart and lost track of how many air forces I had. Availability is actually the following: 720 B-108B, 5,760 C-115, 720 C-117, 2,880 C-116.]
OOC: Alright, let me calculate the bills...

B-108B: $146.88 billion
C-115: $345.6 billion
C-117: $81 billion
C-116: $576 billion
Total: $1149.48 billion

It'll probably take a while for all of them to be transported back to OMASC facilities, but they'll either be used for spare parts or be put in reserve for possible attrition replacements / source of spare parts in the future.

[Perfectly acceptable.]

[Omz, I have a request for some naval UAVs. One is a carrier-borne recon UAV along the lines of the Saab FILUR demonstrator. The second is a recon UAV launched from a ballistic missile tubes a la Cormorant.]

Lost Hills Department of Defense
Office of Procurement

Lost Hills is currently seeking to modernize and upgrade the Air Force and Navy with munitions capable of eliminating modern fighters and ships. As such, the Office of Procurement views your catalog with great interest and respect.

There are major gaps in the effectiveness of our current missile technology. In recent conflicts, our existing units have not been able to effectively combat and eliminate threats. Thus, Lost Hills would be very much interested in purchasing domestic production rights to the following missile designs:

AIM-508B Starshield II
AGM/AIM-509B Starfall II
AIM-510B Starshell II
AIM-511B Starburst II
AGM-512 Stararm New Short Range Anti-Radiation Missile
BGM-501 Roundel Medium-Range Anti-Ship Missile
BGM-502 Longaxe Medium Range Cruise Missile
BGM-503 Arquebus Long Range Cruise Missile
AGM-531A/B Bumblebee New Tactical Air-to-Surface Missile
AGM-531C Bumblebee-ER New Long-Range Tactical Air-to-Surface Missile
AGM-519A Needlehole Kinetic Anti-Tank Missile
AGM-519A COFARAT (COmpact FAst Reaction Anti-Tank) Kinetic Anti-Tank Missile
RIM-506F Foxarrow Medium Range and Missile Defence Naval SAM

The Department of Defense therefore would inquire as to the cost of purchasing production rights to these missiles. If this is not possible for some designs, Lost Hills would be more than happy to entire into a long-term production contract with OMASC/NDI to deliver the munitions we require.

Thank you.

Official Response, OMASC/NDI
To: Office of Procurement. Lost Hills Department of Defense
From: OMASC/NDI Procrement Office

While we are extremely gratified that the dignified people and leaders in the Lost Hills government has taken note of us and exptressed their interest in our products, it is with the greatest regrets that we humbly deny the request for production licenses for the majority of the listed systems, for reasons as stipulated in the policies section in our catelogue in regards to production licenses: "...production rights for products not for general export will only be available to certain closely-established trading partners, and close allies...". However, it is indeed possible to procure production licenses for the Arquebus and the Foxarrow, which altogethr will be $40 billion dollars including technical support and assistance in the construction of facilities suitable for building the systems.

If Lost Hills still takes interest in our products, then we are more than glad to provide the opportunity for special long-term contracts that involve the production and delivery of said munitions ver a set timeframe on a continuous yearly or monthly basis. If our dignified friends in Lost Hills still insist on production licenses, then we welcome them to explore our missile designs that are indeed available for general export.

We once again thank Lost Hills for their interest, and is eagerly awaiting for a response.

Lost Hills Department of Defense
Office of Procurement

Lost Hills understands the concerns of OMASC/NDI completely. The Armed Forces require the following munitions for delivery as soon as possible. The numbers are rather large, but we greatly hope that you will be able to fulfill our needs.

100,000X AIM-508B - $35,000,000,000
25,000X AGM-512 - $9,000,000,000
100,000X AGM/AIM-509B - $100,000,000,000
10,000X AIM-510B - $20,000,000,000
5,000X AIM-511B - $16,000,000,000
200,000X BGM-501 - $460,000,000,000
150,000X AGM-531A/B - $46,500,000,000
75,000X AGM-531C - $27,000,000,000
500,000X AGM-519A - $60,000,000,000
600,000X AGM-519A COFARAT - $48,000,000,000
Production rights RIM-506F - $40,000,000,000

The total for this order comes to $861,500,000,000. The money will be sent by certified check as soon as the order is confirmed.

Lost Hills is also interested in perhaps entering a long-term agreement to deliver a certain number of the abovementioned munitions yearly. A review our office is pending to see whether or not we would require such a venture and we will contact you in the future with further details.

Again, thank you very much for your support and flexibility. Lost Hills looks forward to doing business with OMASC/NDI in the future.

Official Response and Confirmation, OMASC/NDI
To: Office of Procurement. Lost Hills Department of Defense
From: OMASC/NDI Procrement Office

As it is, we thank our friends for their understanding, and consequently the new request has been approved. Production will begin immediately, and munitions will be delivered in batches on a six-month basis until the end of the delivery of all munitions, which will take place around 15 years from now due to the extraordinary number of munitions ordered. As with the agreement, if a proposal is suggested then we would have no problems in looking it over, and deciding our response to the request.

Once again, we thank our friends in Lost Hills for their interests as well as their enthusiasm for our product, and we wish that our products will be able to serve the Lost Hills armed forces as adequately as possible.

[Omz, any thoughts on those UAVs?]

[Omz, any thoughts on those UAVs?]
OOC: I was initially wondering what you meant... Damn, I missed the post, sorry about that. As for the former UAV, apparantly I can't get a lot of info off it, but since it looks like something related to stealth I don't see why that is impossible - you could even make it into a light strike UAV with options for a sensor package if you want. As with the Cormorant-type, apparantly everyone knows about it now but the specific details about the design still seems a bit iffy. However, I'll see to it.

Just a note however, both the UAVs and the missile that you've requested (I'll probably base it off the Slingshot II, shortened, with an IR guidance package) won't come immediately, since I have both work and school. On the other hand, I'll try my best to find some time to finish the missile and get started on the UAVs, and again my apologies for this late post.

[Not a problem at all. I was wondering if you'd seen the post in the first place. There's no hurry on the missile, I'd like to enveil the Mk46 along with my version of Free's next-gen SD, but work on that is going slow due to the fact that Jim is busy moving and also that he desires to get his ships out the door first.]

OOC: Omz, would you sell any of your designs to my nation?

OOC: Omz, would you sell any of your designs to my nation?
OOC: Production licenses unfortunately not with the exception as listed in the front page; manufactured products, yes.

OOC: I see. I was under the impression that you wouldn't, as you sell only to close allies.

OOC: Hey, Omz222, am I still on your black list?

OOC: Hey, Omz222, am I still on your black list?
OOC: After this much time and what my government ICly thinks of you, no. If you'd still like, welcome aboard :)

OOC: Sweet, expect a big order, I've been needing an AWACs, JSTARS and refueling planes for a while. :p

OOC: Sorry for double post, but can I get production rights? or is it strictly just manufactured units?

OOC: Sorry for double post, but can I get production rights? or is it strictly just manufactured units?
OOC: Manufactured units depending on what you are looking for, because unfortunately now I keep a very tight grip on production rights. Of course, you can still get the ones for OMASC products which are already superseded by newer replacements and those marked for general export, but the production licenses for other products - my apologies - are only available to very close allies.

Silver Skyian Official Government Transmission
To: OMASC/NDI Procrement Office
From: Weapons Procrement Office, Republican Air Force, The Silver Sky
General Arthur Finkelton

The Silver Sky has recently been invovled in a conflict that you know about, as a result of the conflict our weapons supplies have been greatly depleted our air-to-air missile stockpiles. We graciously thank you for lifting the embargo that you had on us. This allows us to buy your improved AAMs instead of going through the cost of developing, testing, and producing our own inferior weapons.

Also tactical air command has been looking for a new AWACs and JSTARS type planes along with a new close support aircraft. The aircraft you offer fill those roles perfectly. We have also been ordered by the navy to purchase a new AWACs for their fleets to replace the older ones we currently deploy.

Also Air Command has seen the need for a new medium and long range tactical air to surface weapon and new air defense surpression weapon, these are included in the order.Order:
------------------------------
E-128A Regulator ARCS x 384 for $172,800,000,000 USD
E-128G Goalpost JAGS x 384 for $161,280,000,000 USD
A-102E(?) Stormcrow CAS x 2,304 for $82,944,000,000 USD
EV-22C Osprey Eye AWACS x 232 for $23,664,000,000 USD
KC-117 Skycamel Box Wing Refuel Aircraft x 768 for $376,320,000,000 USD
BGM-503 Arquebus LRCM x 10,000 for $58,000,000,000 USD
AIM-508B Starshield II NSRAAM x 600,000 for $210,000,000,000 USD
AGM/AIM-509B Starfall II NIRDFM x 400,000 for $400,000,000,000 USD
AIM-510B Starshell II NLRAAM x 300,000 for $600,000,000,000 USD
AGM-326B/C Buzzsaw ALADSM x 150,000 for $150,000,000,000 USD
AGM-326D/E Buzzblade ALARM x 150,000 for $105,000,000,000 USD
AGM-531A/B Bumblebee NTASM x 100,000 for $31,000,000,000 USD
AGM-531C Bumblebee-ER NLRTASM x 100,000 for $36,000,000,000 USD
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Sub-Total: $2,407,008,000,000 USD
10% Discount: -$240,700,800,000
Total: $2,166,307,200,000 USDWe would also be interested in production rights to all of these weapons. If they are available to us please notify us and add it to the total.

Also, payment will be issued in increments over 3 years. If this is unacceptable please reply.

[Signed]
General Arthur Finkelton
Silver Sky Republican Air Force

OOC: A-102C. /OOC

Official Transmission to Silver Skyian Goverment, OMASC/NDI
To: Gen. A. Finkelton, Weapons Procrement Office, Republican Air Force, The Silver Sky
From: OMASC/NDI Procurement Office

As we are in the process of lifting our embargo previously put in place against our friends in The Silver Sky, we are thrilled that Silver Skyian military and government officials have already expressed so much interest in the systems and products that we offer, especially munitions of various types and aircraft. After referring to offices within the Omzian Forces and the Omzian government, we are more than willing to approve of the current order, valued at $2,166,307,200,000, accounting for the 10% discount. Due to the very large numbers of munitions ordered, it will take round 15 years to deliver all of the products, though most of the aircraft will be delivered by the end of the 8th year after the order's placement.

In regards to the production rights, unfortunately we have enacted a strict policy in regards to production licenses following the reorganization of our policy structure and product line. However, we are willing to offer licenses for the Arquebus ($20 billion) and the EV-22C Osprey Eye ($40 billion), for a total of $60 billion. If the Silver Skyian government is still interested, after the wiring of the money plans will be delivered immediately electronically, and OMASC/NDI engineers and other technical personnel will be sent to The Silver Sky to oversee the conversion and/or construction of manufacture facilities suitable for the production of the aforementioned systems, as well as assisting in the designs' initial construction.

Once again, our thanks to our comrades in the Silver Skyian government, and allow us to convey our best wishes.

To: OMASC/NDI
From: The Federative Sikh Republic of Space Union (FSRSU)
Subject: Major Order

After reviewing designs from many companies, we have decided to place a large order for aircrafts and helicopters at OMASC following the collapse of the old aircraft provider of the Space Union Air Force and the increasing threat of the CAD in the war in Czardas. Considering your high marks and quality that you have provided to the Space Union Air Force, we are pleased to say that you were ranked far ahead of the rest of the pack when it came to aeronautical engineering and craftmenship. The following will be our order:


10,080 A-102C Stormcrow
5,760 AC-78C Fire Pelican
3,456 B-101D Super Bombardier
2,880 B-106A Warcrow Supersonic Medium Bomber
5,500 C-115 Fastrider Supersonic Tactical Transport Cargo Aircraft
4,320 C-116 Loadmaster "C-Wing" Heavy Strategic Cargo Aircraft
4,320 KC-117 Skycamel Box Wing Refuel Aircraft
2,880 E-128A Regulator Aerial Control and Surveillance (ARCS) Aircraft
1,880 E-128G Goalpost Joint Airborne Ground and Surface Surveillance System (JAGS)
10,000 RQM-502 Longeye Reconaissance Drone


This huge order, which will fill the ranks of most of our air force, has been calculated at the cost of $24,132,528,000,000. We understand that finiancially and resourcefully this is a huge order and therefore we are asking if we would allowed to pay this off in three installations of $8 trillion each, with the last one fulfilling all the rest of the costs still left over. We also understand that this order is extremely huge to the point it would strain your factories. Hence why we would like to ask for the possibility of having limited production runs where Space Union would offer OMASC/NDI factories in Space Union to use to build all these. In exchange for this offer, once our order is complete these factories will become automatic property of OMASC/NDI for their own uses. Space Union understands that this order will be long but we are willing to be patient and they will be introduced into service as they come.

Once again we thank you for allowing us to place such an order and we hope that you will confirm it. May our allies and friends in OMASC/NDI and Omz live long!

Signed,
Federative Satpul Singh

OOC: Hey, Omz, mind if all this is fluid time? Meaning that they just appear in my air force. The reason I'm saying this is because all this is happening because of OOC. You see, when Jolt did their little upgrade they ate some of the threads which included the stats for many of my aircrafts and me being the dunce I am, didn't save it on the computer. So I have no aircrafts. But it doesn't make ICly sense that I suddenly went from having a powerful air force to having nothing in a couple of hours. That's why I'm putting this huge order since I need to restock my entire air force.

Official Statement, OMASC/NDI
To: Federative S. Singh, The Federative Sikh Republic of Space Union
From: Procurement Office, OMASC/NDI
Subject: RE Major Order

Greetings to our Space Union comrades,

We are immensely grateful for the attention and interest expressed by our humble comrades from Space Union, and we are enthralled that our ally would propose an order of such a magnificant scale, almost unprecendented by any other contract proposals that OMASC/NDI has received. Despite major concerns expressed by some officials in the OMASC/NDI offices regarding the Space Union's ability to pay an astronomical sum of $24 trillion dollars - an exceedingly heavy burden even for our own government and armed forces - we are willing to accept the order based on the prerequisites that the Space Union government assures OMASC/NDI of their financial stability and their ability to pay the sum in the long term, and that the money be paid over 48 installations of $500 billion dollars each over a time period of 24 years.

As well, in regards to the prospects of opening up additional manufacturing facilities in Space Union to accommodate some of the production, we are perfectly willing to accept the terms. As a result, our corporation is planning to construct three major aircraft production plants in Space Union and several minor facilities. If this proposal can be accepted, it is hoped that in the long term the order will be fulfilled in more than 20 years.

If these terms are acceptable, then we are perfectly fine with continuing, and finalizing, the contract. We thank Space Union for their interest, as we eagerly await for a response from Federate Singh and his associates.

Silver Skyian Official Government Transmission
To: OMASC/NDI Procrement Office
From: General A. Finkelton, Weapons Procrement Office, Republican Air Force, The Silver Sky

This is acceptable, the money has been added to the total and the first payment has been wired, the other will be wired upon this time next year and the year after. We hope to be back soon, we most likely will after the end of this conflict.

[Signed]
General Arthur Finkelton
Silver Sky Republican Air Force

OOC: Hey, Omz, mind if all this is fluid time? Meaning that they just appear in my air force. The reason I'm saying this is because all this is happening because of OOC. You see, when Jolt did their little upgrade they ate some of the threads which included the stats for many of my aircrafts and me being the dunce I am, didn't save it on the computer. So I have no aircrafts. But it doesn't make ICly sense that I suddenly went from having a powerful air force to having nothing in a couple of hours. That's why I'm putting this huge order since I need to restock my entire air force.

OOC: If that is really the case, then my condolences (though I think the disappeared posts are now back if I remember correctly, and I think you also posted some of the aircraft on the Draftroom boards). I do accept fluid time to a somewhat limited degree though, meaning that if you are willing to give it a few RL days of wait, then I have zero problems. Otherwise, go ahead.

OOC: If that is really the case, then my condolences (though I think the disappeared posts are now back if I remember correctly, and I think you also posted some of the aircraft on the Draftroom boards). I do accept fluid time to a somewhat limited degree though, meaning that if you are willing to give it a few RL days of wait, then I have zero problems. Otherwise, go ahead.

OOC: Yeah, basically all my aircrafts were deleted (except my fighters which I have upgraded and my SuB-1C which all are on the Draftroom). And yes that's fine, I'll wait a few days before saying that all these are in service. Thank you for your understanding. :)

To: Procurement Office, OMASC/NDI
From: Federative S. Singh, FSRSU
Subject: RE; RE Major Order

We thank you for your willingness to adapt to our needs and accept our order along with offer a payment system we are willing to accept. We realize that this order is likely to put strains on your production lines, but we are glad you took up our offer on building aircraft factories in the Space Union jurisdiction. Hopefully this will boost your production capabilities and fulfill our order and others far more efficiently. Once again, we thank our friends and allies in OMASC/NDI and Omz for fulfilling this tremendous order.

Signed,
Federative S. Singh

Silver Skyian Official Government Transmission
To: OMASC/NDI Procrement Office
From: Weapons Procrement Office, Republican Air Force, The Silver Sky
General Arthur Finkelton

We have returned for an addition to our purchase, we would like to add 15,000 BGM-502 Longaxe MRCM for $67,500,000,000 USD to our purchase.

If production rights are available, please add them to the total.

Silver Skyian Official Government Transmission
To: OMASC/NDI Procrement Office
From: Weapons Procrement Office, Republican Air Force, The Silver Sky
General Arthur Finkelton

We have returned for an addition to our purchase, we would like to add 15,000 BGM-502 Longaxe MRCM for $67,500,000,000 USD to our purchase.

If production rights are available, please add them to the total.

OOC: I don't have much time right now, so if you don't mind my post will be shorter than usual. /OOC

We are more than glad to receive this request from our warm friends in the Silver Sky, and after a short discussion among OMASC/NDI officials we have approved the purchase of fifteen thousand Longaxe missiles at a cost of $67.5 billion dollars. We predict that the missiles will be delivered within a period of around three years, and production will start once we receive the funds or the first installment shall the Silver Sky chooses to pay with an installment-based plan.

As for the production licenses of the missile, unfortunately currently due to the lack of a successor product, we do not offer the production license of the Longaxe to any but our closest allies. As a result, we wish to express our apologies, though things might change if we decide to introduce an improved version of or a complete successor to the original Longaxe.

To OMASC/NDI Legal Office -
I have been informed that we may have unintentionally violated your copyright to your EV-22C Osprey Eye with our own EV-22 Osprey. Our design uses slightly improved engines from vanilla V-22s, and has the radome of the E-2C fitted on it; it does not use your vastly improved radar, nor your better engines. Are these differences enough to satisfy your attorneys, or would you prefer that we take our EV-22 off the market?
Sincerely,
Gwendolyn King, CEO and President of Martin Avionics

To OMASC/NDI Legal Office -
I have been informed that we may have unintentionally violated your copyright to your EV-22C Osprey Eye with our own EV-22 Osprey. Our design uses slightly improved engines from vanilla V-22s, and has the radome of the E-2C fitted on it; it does not use your vastly improved radar, nor your better engines. Are these differences enough to satisfy your attorneys, or would you prefer that we take our EV-22 off the market?
Sincerely,
Gwendolyn King, CEO and President of Martin Avionics
OOC: Sorry for the OOC post (I simply don't have the time), but I don't have any problems with you designing an EV-22. Only if you directly copy my design will I actually be upset about it. Go ahead with your design, sell it, and sorry for the confusion:)

OOC - Cool. The plane's been around for a bit, although I only got one sale (from The Beltway) so far...

[Omz, have you disappeared on me or something?]

[Omz, have you disappeared on me or something?]
OOC: Sorry, but for the past month I've been extremely busy, and rarely do I have the sufficient time to dedicate to NS matters. I don't want to say it, but until the schoolwork are all over in June, I will have very little time for designs :(

[No, I wasn't talking about that, man. I was just wondering where you were, I haven't heard anything from you in a long time.]

OOC: Still though, my apologies for the unacceptable lateness. This will probably be the only free weekend I have, and after that, well... Squeezing Algebra II and Precalc math into one semester isn't a nice thing, as is an accelerated curriculum. I have a lot of other things going beside that, but I will return in late June.

OOC: Still though, my apologies for the unacceptable lateness. This will probably be the only free weekend I have, and after that, well... Squeezing Algebra II and Precalc math into one semester isn't a nice thing, as is an accelerated curriculum. I have a lot of other things going beside that, but I will return in late June.

Lol, you sound like my sister. She took 3 AP classes this year (Junior) and she is up to the neck with studying and homework to the point that all I hear around here is about her homework or something that is related to your AP classes. But what really sucks for me is that she has an excuse from her chores to study so I have to do all the stuff around here, and believe me that is not the way you want to spend your weekend. :p

But that's a different story, good luck on your classes Omz222. NS is second to schooling. :)

OOC: It is not AP per se (I'm still 1-2 years from that, the system is a bit different here in Canada). The curriculum presents a good challenge, only that it is eating away my NS time at an alarming pace. Anyways, thanks.

OOC: It is not AP per se (I'm still 1-2 years from that, the system is a bit different here in Canada). The curriculum presents a good challenge, only that it is eating away my NS time at an alarming pace. Anyways, thanks.

Oh yeah, you live in Canada, so it would be a bit different.

OOC: Still though, my apologies for the unacceptable lateness. This will probably be the only free weekend I have, and after that, well... Squeezing Algebra II and Precalc math into one semester isn't a nice thing, as is an accelerated curriculum. I have a lot of other things going beside that, but I will return in late June.

[I know what that's like. I had to go to summer school once to make up a bad grade in math and I decided to go ahead and do next semester's math as well. That was... tough.]

[Omz, I know I already have you doing a bunch of projects, but I saw something on TV that I thought would be pretty novel on the NS battlefield. http://www.military-aerospace-technology.com/article.cfm?DocID=686]

[OOC: Omz222, do you have anything that is based off the F-16 and performs similar roles?]

[OOC: Omz222, do you have anything that is based off the F-16 and performs similar roles?]
OOC: Unfortunately, I don't, but the F-109D serves a similar role as the F-16 despite its larger size. I might make one if you wish, but note that I will be extremely busy over the summer.

OOC: Unfortunately, I don't, but the F-109D serves a similar role as the F-16 despite its larger size. I might make one if you wish, but note that I will be extremely busy over the summer.
[OOC: As you are busy IRL, I shall let you finish your RL chores completely....urgh, it's really quite hard to decide what designer to use. I already diversify a lot, with PIW and RSIN being my primary naval contractors (and to a minimal extent in the case of PIW, air force and ground forces), Detmerian Aerospace being a possible good contender for my air force and so the same with Clan Smoke Jaguar Military Industries in the air force and land force, sigh....I'm having trouble whether to pick the Wirbelwind over the F-109....]

[Omz, might I have production rights to the FB-101E?]

[OOC: As you are busy IRL, I shall let you finish your RL chores completely....urgh, it's really quite hard to decide what designer to use. I already diversify a lot, with PIW and RSIN being my primary naval contractors (and to a minimal extent in the case of PIW, air force and ground forces), Detmerian Aerospace being a possible good contender for my air force and so the same with Clan Smoke Jaguar Military Industries in the air force and land force, sigh....I'm having trouble whether to pick the Wirbelwind over the F-109....]
OOC: As long as you keep the logistics part under control (i.e. buying fighters from 10 different contractors doesn't make sense, but 2-3 isn't a problem in terms of spare parts), you shouldn't worry. As for the F-109, it's designed as a multirole fighter, similar to the F/A-18. If I can find the time, I might just downsize the F-109 and make the same size as an Eurofighter.

[Omz, might I have production rights to the FB-101E?]
OOC: That's not a problem, and $100 billion is fine.

[Consider it done.]

OOC: *Cough*

OOC: *Cough*
OOC: Bless you.

OOC: *Cough*


[Holy shit, look who's back. You got anything in the works? New helos or something?]

OOC: No, actually... I lost the will to play months ago. I'm not sure how Earth factors in to New Adejaani these days... I've always said I'm a reactionary. Put in a design requirement and I'll do it. I haven't designed much of anything lately.

OOC: Omz, could I buy some Triton's and Arquebus II's?

OOC: No, actually... I lost the will to play months ago. I'm not sure how Earth factors in to New Adejaani these days... I've always said I'm a reactionary. Put in a design requirement and I'll do it. I haven't designed much of anything lately.
:eek: :D Welcome back.

OOC: Omz, could I buy some Triton's and Arquebus II's?
OOC: Not a problem at all. I can usually make some concessions.

OOC: Concessions?

[Adejaani, nothing for me. I've been given control of Edolia and have permission to have it go down in flames during a war with my primary nation, but before that I'm going to RP a economic and military revival that might require some helos designed by you.]

OOC: Concessions?


[They're restricted designs. In your case the Imperium wouldn't care, but if somebody like Doomingsland tried to buy them the Imperium would freak the hell out. Kinda touchy about potential enemies possessing the same technology as the Imperium.]

OOC: Well if anyone needs my services... :D

OOC: Concessions?
OOC: Basically they are only available to those who owns Omzian bombers (as said in the descriptions), but unofficially OMASC doesn't enforce such measures very strenuously, especially considering that we've fully restored our trade ties and the government doesn't have any qualms with yours.

In essence... Just ignore what I said about concessions.

OOC: Hey Omz, what stand-off weapon do you suggest from your inventory to be used against land forces (soldiers and land equipment)?

OOC: Hey Omz, what stand-off weapon do you suggest from your inventory to be used against land forces (soldiers and land equipment)?
OOC: In terms of large weapons, would suggest using subsonic cruise missiles (the Tigersword or the older LRALCM) with bomblets (either CEM or BAT-type... it might also be able to carry my MIFAVS) against targets such as trucks and tanks. In terms of the ones you would carry on fighters and helicopters, the list would be pages long - anti-tank missiles (Skyneedle, COFARAT), medium-range glide weapons including my WCMD-II, Maverick-types such as the Bumblebee, and so on. In short, anything that isn't terribly big/fast/expensive, and has submunitions or a tank-busting warhead wll do.

OOC: Omz... I have this bizarre, well, not really bizarre and not really one of my usual concepts, but I was thinking an A-6 on steroids. Or, if you want an analogy, a "Heavy F-15E Strike Eagle"/"Light B-1 Lancer". Something that bridges the gap between the two.

An airframe that can do the job of one or the other, but not as expensive or maintenance intensive. What do you think?

OOC: Omz... I have this bizarre, well, not really bizarre and not really one of my usual concepts, but I was thinking an A-6 on steroids. Or, if you want an analogy, a "Heavy F-15E Strike Eagle"/"Light B-1 Lancer". Something that bridges the gap between the two.

An airframe that can do the job of one or the other, but not as expensive or maintenance intensive. What do you think?
OOC: If low-level flight is what you have in mind, I don't think there will be that much of a problem. An aircraft like that is completely possible, and will be probably something like a medium bomber, about 3.5-4/5 the size of a Tu-22, and a fairly large weapon load and fuel capacity. As for cost, it also depends on what you want - if it is a swing-wing or have a lot of advanced features, then it will be costly, so if low cost is your goal then I'd give it a traditional airframe, modest electronics, and a degree of ruggedness.

OOC: If low-level flight is what you have in mind, I don't think there will be that much of a problem. An aircraft like that is completely possible, and will be probably something like a medium bomber, about 3.5-4/5 the size of a Tu-22, and a fairly large weapon load and fuel capacity. As for cost, it also depends on what you want - if it is a swing-wing or have a lot of advanced features, then it will be costly, so if low cost is your goal then I'd give it a traditional airframe, modest electronics, and a degree of ruggedness.

OOC: I don't know... To be honest, I thought it'd come out something like a "Modern B-17 Flying Fortress". I don't really want it "that big", I still envision it to be "tactical" bomber if needed. Well, the concept is more like an AC-130 gunship, but as a tactical bomber, in a way... Hmm. :confused:

OOC: So, I guess what you're looking for is a close air support bomber? Something along the line of the F-111?

OOC: Well, the AC-130 is a special platform geared more for CAS and direct support of ground troops, so if you are aiming something that places striking capabilities as a secondary priority, then you don't really need a large aircraft of the nature described. On the other hand, a large aircraft can still operate in a regional setting very effectively, on both tactical (i.e. military targets) and strategic levels (e.g. ports, factories, etc. of a very strategic significance) in terms of its missions.

OOC: I don't know... How about a B-1/B-52 replacement, or even a B-2 replacement without the hefty pricetag?

OOC: I don't know... How about a B-1/B-52 replacement, or even a B-2 replacement without the hefty pricetag?
OOC: The cost of such a replacement would have to stay unfortunately, because aircraft costs tend to rise with time and advancements in both avionics and the aircraft's basic mechanics, even if you do choose to avoid top-of-the-line avionics and engines. On the other hand, it is possible to cap the cost at a level that wouldn't get out of hand, keep the maintenance costs at similar levels (unless you are choosing a complex/cumbersome airframe design, such as swing-wings), and make the capabilities superior than those of the B-52 and B-1 at the same time. Replacing the B-2 with such an aircraft is even more difficult, because you'd either have to sacrifice a reasonable pricetag or a portion of the stealth.

OOC: The cost of such a replacement would have to stay unfortunately, because aircraft costs tend to rise with time and advancements in both avionics and the aircraft's basic mechanics, even if you do choose to avoid top-of-the-line avionics and engines. On the other hand, it is possible to cap the cost at a level that wouldn't get out of hand, keep the maintenance costs at similar levels (unless you are choosing a complex/cumbersome airframe design, such as swing-wings), and make the capabilities superior than those of the B-52 and B-1 at the same time. Replacing the B-2 with such an aircraft is even more difficult, because you'd either have to sacrifice a reasonable pricetag or a portion of the stealth.

OOC: Okay, that I'll buy. The B-2 we can leave, but for our large strategic bomber... What do you think we should do?

Do we go with a "smaller" bomber and instead go for just large enough to oh say... A modest number of cruise missiles (eg B-2 writ large), or do we need massive ones with massive capabilities (eg B-52 writ large)?

After all, during Vietnam, the A-6 dropped more ordnance than the B-52, so... What do you think the replacement bomber progam should look towards? Small or massive?

That was largely because the missions were tactical in nature, no need to bring in a huge platform when a few smaller attack aircraft will do the job better.

Hey Omz, it's not an urgent need, but do you think you could design a next-gen interceptor? I'd want it to be able to take down with ease anything a like enemy (such as Doomingsland) would be able to put in the air.

To: Dormoe J. Inkans, Procurement Director, OMASC National Defense Industries
From: General Peter Lee, Chief of the Southeast Asian Air Force, United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia
Subject: Globemaster III successor and making closer relations

Dear Mr. Dormoe J. Inkans,

Just for the record, my superiors in the Southeast Asian Federal-Parliamentarian Government, in particular, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, were glad of the review by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Omzian Democratic Republic on Southeast Asia when it took the diplomatic survey His Excellency Joshua Lin Cheuk Kitt released some several months ago.

I have no doubt that you know that both the Union of Southeast Asian Nations and the Omzian Democratic Republic are mutual member-nations of the Council of Air Powers. And both of our respective homelands have friendly ties with these nations: the Incorporated States of Sarzonia, the United Kingdom of Isselmere-Nieland, the Libertarian Concordance of Czardas and the Praetonian Commonwealth, to name a few. Southeast Asia has earned it's reputation through to use the words of Yao Yang Nelson Neo, my country's Founder and first Prime Minister: "Diplomacy over force."

However, sometimes, diplomacy fails and force has sadly to be used to deal with foreign aggressors. Such is why we keep a decent military force, as experienced with the Federation of Joint Conglomerates when their corporate military downed a respected figure within Southeast Asia itself. However, as the battlefield is in a constant state of evolution and nobody can predict one-hundred percent accurately how it evolves, the Southeast Asian armed forces itself is inevitably in a constant state of modernization.

Which is why I, on the behalf of the Federal Parliament which in turn acts on the behalf of my people, have chosen you as a military contractor for our air force. The C-17 "Globemaster III" Tactical Airlifter Aircraft (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/c-17.htm) is growing old, and is soon going to get the ax. We have searched for replacements and OMASC/NDI's C-115 "Fastrider" Supersonic Tactical Transport Cargo Aircraft seems to do the trick - but we have only seen it on paper, we have to see it for ourselves first.

So, on the behalf of my nation and Parliament, I wish to acquire three units of the C-115 "Fastrider" Supersonic Tactical Transport Cargo Aircraft for testing purposes. All funds shall be transfered upon the confirmation of the order*. Should the trials prove successful, I shall return to make a more substantial purchase, and perhaps negotiate for unlimited domestic production rights - if my nation does qualify for such a priviledge.

Yours Sincerely,
General Peter Lee
Chief of the Southeast Asian Air Force
United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia

*[OOC: That's because you didn't stick the procurement cost in it, Omz222.]

OOC: Okay, that I'll buy. The B-2 we can leave, but for our large strategic bomber... What do you think we should do?

Do we go with a "smaller" bomber and instead go for just large enough to oh say... A modest number of cruise missiles (eg B-2 writ large), or do we need massive ones with massive capabilities (eg B-52 writ large)?

After all, during Vietnam, the A-6 dropped more ordnance than the B-52, so... What do you think the replacement bomber progam should look towards? Small or massive?
OOC: Well, I was under the impression that you envisioned something in the middle of the F-15E and the larger bombers, but a strategic bomber is what on your mind, I'd choose a medium-sized bomber with a load comparable to the B-1 but with ruggedness and ease of maintenance comparable to the B-52. Maybe a delta-like wing with both internal and external weapon stores.

Large aircraft still has an important role. You still need a fairly large bomber with a good load and fuel to conduct intercontinental missions when the time comes, since the Vietnam the missions were all on a regional level. Or, if you do want make an aircraft operating regionally exclusively, then you could go the way of the B-1R. Give it more electronics, larger engines (more power and greater speed), and revised weapons loads (such as anti-radiation or even air-to-air missiles; placed in smaller bays) since the range doesn't matter as much.

Hey Omz, it's not an urgent need, but do you think you could design a next-gen interceptor? I'd want it to be able to take down with ease anything a like enemy (such as Doomingsland) would be able to put in the air.
I'll see what I can do. In the end I might take the F-125G's airframe and soup it up a bit. It won't be very maneuverable (if nimble fighters are also on your mind), but it should be able to detect and engage the targets (of such types you described) at a fairly long range - although to be fair, it'll still be relatively short (~150-200km under optimal conditions) because of the stealth involved, but the raw power of the onboard radar should suffice agianst other fighters. I'll also make it a bit more stealthier as well.

No, I had no illusions of manueverability. If it's anywhere near as manueverable as an F-4, I'll be happy. I'm sure the F-120 will more than meat my needs for a knife-fighter.

To: Dormoe J. Inkans, Procurement Director, OMASC National Defense Industries
From: General Peter Lee, Chief of the Southeast Asian Air Force, United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia
Subject: Globemaster III successor and making closer relations

Dear Mr. Dormoe J. Inkans,

Just for the record, my superiors in the Southeast Asian Federal-Parliamentarian Government, in particular, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, were glad of the review by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Omzian Democratic Republic on Southeast Asia when it took the diplomatic survey His Excellency Joshua Lin Cheuk Kitt released some several months ago.

I have no doubt that you know that both the Union of Southeast Asian Nations and the Omzian Democratic Republic are mutual member-nations of the Council of Air Powers. And both of our respective homelands have friendly ties with these nations: the Incorporated States of Sarzonia, the United Kingdom of Isselmere-Nieland, the Libertarian Concordance of Czardas and the Praetonian Commonwealth, to name a few. Southeast Asia has earned it's reputation through to use the words of Yao Yang Nelson Neo, my country's Founder and first Prime Minister: "Diplomacy over force."

However, sometimes, diplomacy fails and force has sadly to be used to deal with foreign aggressors. Such is why we keep a decent military force, as experienced with the Federation of Joint Conglomerates when their corporate military downed a respected figure within Southeast Asia itself. However, as the battlefield is in a constant state of evolution and nobody can predict one-hundred percent accurately how it evolves, the Southeast Asian armed forces itself is inevitably in a constant state of modernization.

Which is why I, on the behalf of the Federal Parliament which in turn acts on the behalf of my people, have chosen you as a military contractor for our air force. The C-17 "Globemaster III" Tactical Airlifter Aircraft (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/c-17.htm) is growing old, and is soon going to get the ax. We have searched for replacements and OMASC/NDI's C-115 "Fastrider" Supersonic Tactical Transport Cargo Aircraft seems to do the trick - but we have only seen it on paper, we have to see it for ourselves first.

So, on the behalf of my nation and Parliament, I wish to acquire three units of the C-115 "Fastrider" Supersonic Tactical Transport Cargo Aircraft for testing purposes. All funds shall be transfered upon the confirmation of the order*. Should the trials prove successful, I shall return to make a more substantial purchase, and perhaps negotiate for unlimited domestic production rights - if my nation does qualify for such a priviledge.

Yours Sincerely,
General Peter Lee
Chief of the Southeast Asian Air Force
United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia

*[OOC: That's because you didn't stick the procurement cost in it, Omz222.]
OOC: The "production cost" listed is the "procurement cost". /OOC

We are indeed honoured that such a peaceful and stalwart nation and diplomatic partner as Southeast Asia has decided to consult us for their armed forces' defence needs. We fully understand the Southeast Asian armed forces' desires to constantly modernize itself with threats lurking in every corner of the world, and we are perfectly happy to collaborate with Southeast Asia to help them to achieve the goal.

Both our engineers and executives at ONDI are exultant that Southeast Asia has chosen our C-115 Fastrider as a replacement for their fleet of aging C-17 airlifters. We are happily willing to approve the purchase of three (3) C-115s, costing $750 million in total (as the maintenance services costs are excluded due to the purpose of the purchase). Domestic production licenses for the C-115 is indeed available, but both its cost and the avenues through which the DPR could be procured depend on the quantity of the said aircraft ordered.

We once again thank the Southeast Asian government and armed forces for their attention and interest in our aircraft, and we are eagerly awaiting a response.

No, I had no illusions of manueverability. If it's anywhere near as manueverable as an F-4, I'll be happy. I'm sure the F-120 will more than meat my needs for a knife-fighter.
OOC: All right - I take it that you'd like an airframe either based on or is an upgrade of the F-120? I'll probably make it a bit larger and less multirole in nature, possibly deleting some of the ground-attack sensors for a more powerful radar and IRST.

[Would the 120-based interceptor be cheaper in both money and manpower to maintain? Speaking of which.... I'll just send you a TG.

EDIT: As for the multi-role features, if it'd make it cheaper and more effective as an interceptor, just get rid of them entirely. I have thousands of multi-role fighters.]

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"In a surprising move today, Adejaani Aerospace Inc, or AAI, has released a statement noting they are effectively leaving the mainstream aerospace industry. While specific details have not been released, it's rumoured that the limited share holdings and other property stocks may be sold off.

"Reading from a brief statement, a spokesman said We can't compete in this competitive world. Although we make impressive competitors, we could never hope to seriously rival even our good friends at OMASC.

"The long standing head of AAI, Doctor Marianne Brooks has noted that the main effect of AAI had been to introduce prototypes and systems into the market and it seems likely that they will instead turn to prototyping and development of avionics and other systems for use on OMASC designs, thus effectively hoping to become the R&D concept firm within the OMASC/AAI partnership.

"As for the impact on the economy? Sources within the Adejaani Ministry of Industries have said that it's hoped OMASC would allow Adejaani to fill a percentage of orders placed to keep the factories running; but have noted that leaving the export aerospace industry would deal a serious blow to the economy.

"Additional information will be forthcoming after discussions with the heads of OMASC and the other parties involved. This has been Rebecca Gonzales, ANN."

[Will you still be able to do the Edolian helos?]

[Will you still be able to do the Edolian helos?]

OOC: Please remind me what they are... If it's the ones I was designing for you, I think I already released those. If not, what are the requirements again?

[I haven't decided yet, it's for a future RP. However, count on very heavy levels of automation and other electronic wizardry. In fact, the attack helo I know for sure is going to be a UCAR.]