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Being a 'man' and being male are two separate things. "Man" is a gender identity more than a certain physical reproductive capability, which is essentially what a male has.

Edit/Also: 3,000 posts!

True, true. I am going by the reproductive capability, I guess.

Oh, and congrats on the 3,000 posts! Now you can reflect on the many minutes you have spent looking at this website!

this is the fastest moving thread I have seen!


zoom! I'm on page 34 typing this .. but it will show up on page 36!


Aww I shouldn've hit quick reply.

Both are despicable. Benedict may even be the anti-Christ.

I see... even though you have more in common with Benedict XVI than you think. You see, both of you have the same problem -- yes, you're very good at being christian, but average at best at being human. Both of you are so obsessed with doing the christian thing that neither of you do the right thing enough. And until you two realize that, you will continue to get the responses you've seen in this topic. You may think that you're lawful good, but the vast majority of this board -- and the vast majority of christians, for that matter -- will tell you that you're at best lawful neutral.

I hope for your sake that you realize how much you can improve yourself.

So you admit to dodging? You cannot offer a rebuttal?

Yum has a double standard to maintain.

So you admit to dodging? You cannot offer a rebuttal?

This does not imply he is necessarily wrong, or that you are necessarily right, though.

Watch Jesus the musical

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVseBfMq_Dc

ha what do you think

It's a problem with the English language. I tend to prefer referring to deity as he/she/it/they - but it gets a little cumbersome.

Well, most faiths, when artistically portraying their deities through visual or literary art, tend to assign it a human gender. Whether this is just the opinion of the individual artist or the religion as a whole is up for definition. You'll have trouble finding an objective (or at least as objective as possible given our limitations as a species) solution, for reasons that have doubtlessly presented in this thread.

Watch Jesus the musical

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVseBfMq_Dc

ha what do you think

Please do not spam my thread with blasphemy.

So you admit to dodging? You cannot offer a rebuttal?

You could be a man, a woman, a hermaphrodite, or have no gender at all.

Watch Jesus the musical

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVseBfMq_Dc

ha what do you think

I found it to be hilarious. I don't know why he gets hit by a bus (Unless it is to make the song he's singing ironic), but I don't find it particularly offensive.

Well, most faiths, when artistically portraying their deities through visual or literary art, tend to assign it a human gender. Whether this is just the opinion of the individual artist or the religion as a whole is up for definition. You'll have trouble finding an objective (or at least as objective as possible given our limitations as a species) solution, for reasons that have doubtlessly presented in this thread.

just call it an it

You could be a man, a woman, a hermaphrodite, or have no gender at all.

But you do not believe I am male, correct?

Please do not spam my thread with blasphemy.

Blasphemy, blas-for-you, blas-for everybody in the room!

just call it an it

Well, I'm not supporting any particular naming convention, just pointing out an amusing habit of humanity.

Please do not spam my thread with blasphemy.

Um, this isn't your thread. You created it, but it is now publicly owned.

Also, that wasn't blasphemy. If anything, by your definition of blasphemy, that was the least blasphemous thing he has posted.

But you do not believe I am male, correct?

Alright, no. I don't believe that you are a man. Unless you can prove otherwise, I do not believe you are a man.

Um, this isn't your thread. You created it, but it is now publicly owned.

Also, that wasn't blasphemy. If anything, by your definition of blasphemy, that was the least blasphemous thing he has posted.

It was a ridiculing of Jesus, a man pretending to be Jesus was in the video, that is blasphemy.

Alright, no. I don't believe that you are a man. Unless you can prove otherwise, I do not believe you are a man.

So you believe I am a woman or transgendered?

I found it to be hilarious. I don't know why he gets hit by a bus (Unless it is to make the song he's singing ironic), but I don't find it particularly offensive.

What could possibly be offensive about it? People portray Jesus all the time. The loincloth? Big deal. Being a Donna Summer fan? How could He not be? Donna Summer rocks!

The bus? Bah! He'll be back in three days. :p

I found it to be hilarious. I don't know why he gets hit by a bus (Unless it is to make the song he's singing ironic), but I don't find it particularly offensive.

yeah it is to make it ironic

I don't know why some people are getting offended

all i have to say is he'll rise again in 3 days

It was a ridiculing of Jesus, a man pretending to be Jesus was in the video, that is blasphemy.

Oh please, it's a pretty insecure deity that can't take a little teasing.

So you believe I am a woman or transgendered?

its possible

It was a ridiculing of Jesus, a man pretending to be Jesus was in the video, that is blasphemy.

You just called the Pope the Anti-Christ (which is honestly far from original). Most Catholics would say you have just blasphemed

It was a ridiculing of Jesus, a man pretending to be Jesus was in the video, that is blasphemy.

You don't think Jesus had a sense of humor? He was Jewish afterall. :p

You just called the Pope the Anti-Christ (which is honestly far from original). Most Catholics would say you have just blasphemed

The Catholics have false beliefs.

So you believe I am a woman or transgendered?

Sure. Why not

The Catholics have false beliefs.

Why are Catholics wrong and you are right?

You just called the Pope the Anti-Christ (which is honestly far from original). Most Catholics would say you have just blasphemed

Good point. I myself am Catholic, and find what Yumgavoo said to be very, very wrong indeed.

However, I am not going to yell "REPENT OR GTFO!"

Sure. Why not

Well I've caught you out then. You cannot verify this with any of your senses, so by your standards, that belief is wrong.

Do you believe in the immaculate conception

Well I've caught you out then. You cannot verify this with any of your senses, so by your standards, that belief is wrong.

No, but he can still prove or disprove it.

Your gender and the existance of God has little correlation.

The Catholics have false beliefs.

Everyone has false beliefs. Everyone has true beliefs too. Except maybe Fred Phelps. He might not have any true beliefs. The jury is still out. If he believes dental floss prevents cavities I might give him that one. :p

Well I've caught you out then. You cannot verify this with any of your senses, so by your standards, that belief is wrong.

but you have yet to bring forth any proof to say that your argument is correct and my argument is wrong

No, but he can still prove or disprove it.


No he can't, not from where he is sitting. He said that if he can't verify it with senses, he will not believe it.

Do you believe in the immaculate conception
I, myself, as a Catholic, do believe in that. I believe it happened.

Of course, I find the Immaculate Reception far more enjoyable to talk about.

Everyone has false beliefs. Everyone has true beliefs too. Except maybe Fred Phelps. He might not have any true beliefs. The jury is still out. If he believes dental floss prevents cavities I might give him that one. :p

But, you put dental floss in your mouth, and that's like having oral sex, which is a sin against Gawd!

God hates dental floss! Dentists are fag enablers! RAWR!

No he can't, not from where he is sitting. He said that if he can't verify it with senses, he will not believe it.

I can have no idea what your gender is, and unless you bring forth undeniable proof to say that you are male, I have no reason to not believe that you are a woman

Everyone has false beliefs. Everyone has true beliefs too. Except maybe Fred Phelps. He might not have any true beliefs. The jury is still out. If he believes dental floss prevents cavities I might give him that one. :p
dental floss doesnt prevent them alone .... you've gotta brush

I can have no idea what your gender is, and unless you bring forth undeniable proof to say that you are male, I have no reason to not believe that you are a woman

So then the response "sure, why not?", is a lie?

It was a ridiculing of Jesus, a man pretending to be Jesus was in the video, that is blasphemy.

So?

If you believe that Jesus truly is the savior of the faithful and the Lord of all existence, does it matter in the end if some evolved primates on the third planet orbiting a rather ordinary ball of continually fusing hydrogen watch a potentially humorous video ridiculing said deity?

But, in the end, I suppose it's irrelevant. All I know is, you are a disgusting and indecent forum troll to be slain, and I assure you, I am coming with my claymore of righteousness. Be ready.

Do you believe in the immaculate conception


If I'm going to believe in an Omnipotent God then of course I can fathom that. Or was this directed to someone else?

Meh.

So?

If you believe that Jesus truly is the savior of the faithful and the Lord of all existence, does it matter in the end if some evolved primates on the third planet orbiting a rather ordinary ball of continually fusing hydrogen watch a potentially humorous video ridiculing said deity?

But, in the end, I suppose it's irrelevant. All I know is, you are a disgusting and indecent forum troll to be slain, and I assure you, I am coming with my claymore of righteousness. Be ready.

Waste of a good claymore, if you ask me. Let him die a natural death, alone and unlamented.

So then the response "sure, why not?", is a lie?

I'm only taking this from a theoretical standpoint anyway. I already thought of you as a male prior to this discussion. So in a way, this whole thing has been a lie. I only said I think you are a woman as part of this discussion to play the devils advocate (the expression, not what you actually think).

So?

If you believe that Jesus truly is the savior of the faithful and the Lord of all existence, does it matter in the end if some evolved primates on the third planet orbiting a rather ordinary ball of continually fusing hydrogen watch a potentially humorous video ridiculing said deity?

But, in the end, I suppose it's irrelevant. All I know is, you are a disgusting and indecent forum troll to be slain, and I assure you, I am coming with my claymore of righteousness. Be ready.

Indeed. I actually think that God enjoys light-hearted jokes at His expense. I mean, jokes about God stubbing His tow and yelling "Jesus Christ!" and Jesus replying, "Yes, Dad?" That's good stuff!

I, myself, as a Catholic, do believe in that. I believe it happened.

Of course, I find the Immaculate Reception far more enjoyable to talk about.

yes but it isn't scientifcally possible and god supposedly created everything and that includes the laws of genetics

so why break his own rules

Indeed. I actually think that God enjoys light-hearted jokes at His expense. I mean, jokes about God stubbing His tow and yelling "Jesus Christ!" and Jesus replying, "Yes, Dad?" That's good stuff!

A perfect being would have to have a sense of humor, don't you think?

So?

If you believe that Jesus truly is the savior of the faithful and the Lord of all existence, does it matter in the end if some evolved primates on the third planet orbiting a rather ordinary ball of continually fusing hydrogen watch a potentially humorous video ridiculing said deity?

But, in the end, I suppose it's irrelevant. All I know is, you are a disgusting and indecent forum troll to be slain, and I assure you, I am coming with my claymore of righteousness. Be ready.

Reported.

A perfect being would have to have a sense of humor, don't you think?

Of course, and he/she/it/they would be gently impatient with someone who tried to claim otherwise.

If I'm going to believe in an Omnipotent God then of course I can fathom that. Or was this directed to someone else?

Meh.
the question was directed at anyone who had an opinion on the matter and that includes you .... obviously

Waste of a good claymore, if you ask me. Let him die a natural death, alone and unlamented.

It would be a waste if I didn't. What's the use of having a monstrous blade forged from hardy Scottish steel if I don't engage in carefree slaughtering every once and a while?

It would be a waste if I didn't. What's the use of having a monstrous blade forged from hardy Scottish steel if I don't engage in carefree slaughtering every once and a while?

Yes, but you should slaughter only those who actually have a fighting chance.

I don't believe in the immaculate conception, but keep in mind that I'm not christian.

yes but it isn't scientifcally possible and god supposedly created everything and that includes the laws of genetics

so why break his own rules

Maybe God included a little exception in the clause on reproduction, for His sake.

Also, I have heard of some species of animals actually self-fertilizing, so it's not necessarily against the laws of genetics for a creature to self-fertilize.

the question was directed at anyone who had an opinion on the matter and that includes you .... obviously

ok well to mix this up a little bit.

I don't believe that Eve ate an apple. I think she had sex with Satan.

Reported.

That's discrimination. In this thread I've implied, among other things, that you're the bastard child of Hammurab and I've impugned your questionable intelligence. Why haven't you reported me?

A perfect being would have to have a sense of humor, don't you think?

Yep.

And on the 7th day, God lol'd.

why did god create colestorol

ino what every1s gonna say its a test so we dont commit glutney

i just answered my own question

and i will post it anyway

Maybe God included a little exception in the clause, for His sake.

Also, I have heard of some species of animals actually self-fertilizing, so it's not necessarily against the laws of genetics for a creature to self-fertilize.

Yeah, there are those ants in Brazil.

That's discrimination. In this thread I've implied, among other things, that you're the bastard child of Hammurab and I've impugned your questionable intelligence. Why haven't you reported me?

On the contrary, you have also been reported.

On the contrary, you have also been reported.

Oh, joy. I'm a happy camper now.

On the contrary, you have also been reported.

Report me as well! I've disagreed with you!

Yeah, there are those ants in Brazil.

Don't forget parthogenesis.

Yeah, there are those ants in Brazil.


Ants are awesome.

Report me as well! I've disagreed with you!

actually, you could report him, seeing as he insulted the head of your religion

Maybe God included a little exception in the clause on reproduction, for His sake.

Also, I have heard of some species of animals actually self-fertilizing, so it's not necessarily against the laws of genetics for a creature to self-fertilize.

yeah i heard of a specices of ants that are all women that clone themselfs so they don't have to have sex

the males couldnt clone themselfs and they couldnt have sex so all the males died out

Report me as well! I've disagreed with you!

I have yet to see any flaming from you.

why did god create colestorol

ino what every1s gonna say its a test so we dont commit glutney

i just answered my own question

and i will post it anyway



to kill off those eating too much meat and not enough veggies and fruits?

Also, I have heard of some species of animals actually self-fertilizing, so it's not necessarily against the laws of genetics for a creature to self-fertilize.

There are no scientific laws. There's simply the actual phenomena, and what we as a collective whole can conceptualize and understand of it. Sure, a little off-topic, but I think pulling legal terms like 'laws' or 'rules' in the subject of science is misleading.

Don't forget parthogenesis.

yay for parthenogenesis! Females cloning themselves

actually, you could report him, seeing as he insulted the head of your religion

Yes, but unlike him, I don't honestly care what he thinks.

There are no scientific laws. There's simply the actual phenomena, and what we as a collective whole understand of it. Sure, a little off-topic, but I think pulling legal terms like 'laws' or 'rules' in the subject of science is misleading.

It was all for the purpose of my point.

Yes, but unlike him, I don't honestly care what he thinks.

thats nice. I only do this cause its so much fun it should be illegal. kind of like crack:p

It was all for the purpose of my point.

Your point is dull and needs sharpening. :D

yay for parthenogenesis! Females cloning themselves

Technically parthogenesis isn't cloning, as it i9t basically doubles the genes that would go to the egg...

Parent:
AA
Bb
cC
dd

Egg:
A
b
C
d

offspring:
AA
bb
CC
dd

Obviously, it should be avoided if possible, as it greatly increases the chance of genetic problems.

Technically parthogenesis isn't cloning, as it i9t basically doubles the genes that would go to the egg...



Obviously, it should be avoided if possible, as it greatly increases the chance of genetic problems.

I know what parthogensis is, but cloning was the best way I could describe it

thats nice. I only do this cause its so much fun it should be illegal. kind of like crack:p

Indeed, it's a high that is so much cheaper to attain than any other drug.

Indeed, it's a high that is so much cheaper to attain than any other drug.

and if the cops catch you you don't have to piss in a cup

Your point is dull and needs sharpening. :D

:eek2:

Well, I have absolutely nothing to say to that. :D

and if the cops catch you you don't have to piss in a cup

Another excellent point.

This thread is about whether you believe in God or not, not doing drugs. So back to the subject, I believe in the Christian God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost. But not in the trinity sense. I have faith that they are separate beings and gods. I do also believe in the immaculate conception.

and if the cops catch you you don't have to piss in a cup

But you can if you want. Each to his own.

Maybe we need to chill a bit. I believe this thread says, "Do you believe in God?" not, is some vid blasphemous, or is Yumvagoo a chick or a dude. Do back to the subject, I believe in the Christian God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost. But not in the trinity sense. I have faith that they are separate beings and Gods.

So you're a Christian polytheist?

Maybe we need to chill a bit. I believe this thread says, "Do you believe in God?" not, is some vid blasphemous, or is Yumvagoo a chick or a dude. Do back to the subject, I believe in the Christian God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost. But not in the trinity sense. I have faith that they are separate beings and Gods.

:( way to kill all the fun. But we've now moved on to "Does God Exist?"

But you can if you want. Each to his own.

yeah, but anyone who likes to piss in cups for no reason other than he wants to has a few issues

I must admit, if he's a troll, he's the most active troll I've seen in a long time. Maybe he's an actual religious nutter who had to spend the day here because he lost a bet. :p

Maybe we need to chill a bit. I believe this thread says, "Do you believe in God?" not, is some vid blasphemous, or is Yumvagoo a chick or a dude. Do back to the subject, I believe in the Christian God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost. But not in the trinity sense. I have faith that they are separate beings and Gods.

Yeah, but this is pretty much how all threads concerning the existance of God go, in some form or another:

God -> Gender -> Genetics -> Jokes

There are many combinations, but there are two constants: The threads always start talking about God, and always end up filled with jokes.

I must admit, if he's a troll, he's the most active troll I've seen in a long time. Maybe he's an actual religious nutter who had to spend the day here because he lost a bet. :p

Unfortunately, I think he's being serious. ;(

Yeah, but this is pretty much how all threads concerning the existance of God go, in some form or another:

God -> Gender -> Genetics -> Jokes

There are many combinations, but there are two constants: The threads always start talking about God, and always end up filled with jokes.

Hey! I had jokes on page 1! :tongue:

Hey! I had jokes on page 1! :tongue:

its only a matter of how long it takes for the jokes to arrive

Hey! I had jokes on page 1! :tongue:

But jokes were not yet the dominant topic.

Unfortunately, I think he's being serious. ;(

You think he's actually trying to save us? If so, he's going to need something a lot stronger than holy water. :p

Unfortunately, I think he's being serious. ;(

Unfortunately. I had brief, unrealistic hopes that he was trying to be satirical.

You think he's actually trying to save us? If so, he's going to need something a lot stronger than holy water. :p

*gets splashed with holy water* It BURNS!!! It... oh wait, never mind, they just heated it in the microwave

Unfortunately. I had brief, unrealistic hopes that he was trying to be satirical.

I think we drove him off

yeah, but anyone who likes to piss in cups for no reason other than he wants to has a few issues

Well, a few issues to you. If people want to piss in a cup for their own amusement, I see no problem with that beyond safe disposal of said waste products.

Also, on the topic of natural "cloning" in more complex orders of animal, I've heard that one of the major problems with this is poor adaptability. Without separate genders, "mixing" of genes and the acquiring of potentially beneficial phenotypes related to mutation by offspring don't occur nearly as readily, which in turn impacts a particular species' ability to adapt to a changing environment.

Well, a few issues to you. If people want to piss in a cup for their own amusement, I see no problem with that beyond safe disposal of said waste products.

eh, urine's mostly sterile anyway, so safe disposal doesn't really matter.

eh, urine's mostly sterile anyway, so safe disposal doesn't really matter.

Well then there you go, problem solved. Piss away, I say!

Also, on the topic of natural "cloning" in more complex orders of animal, I've heard that one of the major problems with this is poor adaptability. Without separate genders, "mixing" of genes and the acquiring of potentially beneficial phenotypes related to mutation by offspring don't occur nearly as readily, which in turn impacts a particular species' ability to adapt to a changing environment.

True, true. "Able to stick to walls like an isnect" rarely if ever makes up "Always looks like Dubya on heroin". :p

Well then there you go, problem solved. Piss away, I say!

this thread has gotten seriously random. We need troll.

True, true. "Able to stick to walls like an isnect" rarely if ever makes up "Always looks like Dubya on heroin".

I tried, but I couldn't. What? XD

this thread has gotten seriously random. We need troll.

So does my claymore.

This thread has become seriously derailed and spammy. Locked for the good and safety of NSG.