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Ferrous Oxide
02-04-2009, 22:41
Even shorts about two inches longer than those are considered "short" shorts on a man, even though women's shorts are almost always even shorter than that.

I positively detest the world of men's fashion.

Why the hell would we WANT to wear tight shorts anyway, or tight pants at all for that matter? We've got equipment down there, valuable equipment that we'd prefer to not be crunched by our clothing.
Neesika
02-04-2009, 22:44
She's one step away from begging you, you know?

No, she just knows what turns me on, and she's a bit of a sadist.
Neesika
02-04-2009, 22:46
Oh hellz yeah.

http://imagesource.art.com/images/-/Tom-Selleck---Magnum-PI--C10102247.jpeg
TJHairball
02-04-2009, 22:47
Why the hell would we WANT to wear tight shorts anyway, or tight pants at all for that matter? We've got equipment down there, valuable equipment that we'd prefer to not be crunched by our clothing.
Tight shorts? Really only for biking. Short shorts? Any time you don't want a freaking yard of cloth getting in the way. Same thing with "pants that aren't ridiculously baggy all the way down."
Neesika
02-04-2009, 22:51
Tight shorts? Really only for biking. Short shorts? Any time you don't want a freaking yard of cloth getting in the way. Same thing with "pants that aren't ridiculously baggy all the way down."

Some guys have legs that should absolutely be seen.

http://nymag.com/daily/fashion/photos/threes060913_shortshorts_560
Truly Blessed
02-04-2009, 22:56
Somewhere between MC Hammer and cutting off the circulation. I general go to the baggy side though, given the two choices.

Same with jeans no bell bottoms and ridiculously tight legs. By the way pants go over your boots not in them.

Shorts mostly longer than normal. Shortest would be mid thigh. Generally closer to the knee the better.

Absolutely no Speedos unless you are training for the olympics. Just not right. Even they should not be forced to wear them.
Grave_n_idle
02-04-2009, 22:59
No, she just knows what turns me on, and she's a bit of a sadist.

One bad break-up. Someone says something mean. A bad day. She'll be rebounding all over you. :)
Naturality
02-04-2009, 23:01
Yeah, cos none of those men look gay at all.

So you want men to look gay, but be strait?
You women are strange.


I didn't like the jeans .. looked feminine or emoish. The second set of pants were just fine.
Grave_n_idle
02-04-2009, 23:02
Same with jeans no bell bottoms and ridiculously tight legs. By the way pants go over your boots not in them.


That, my friend, depends on the boots.

http://www.newrockstore.com/zona1/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=642
Naturality
02-04-2009, 23:08
Hahaha, seriously! There's a girl I went to college with who used to make a habit of wandering into group conversations and sitting herself down on the lap of every guy in the room (and playing with their hair, and asking their opinion on whether she looked pretty today, and so on...). I swear to god, if looks could kill, that little brat would have been dead so many times over, and never ONCE did any guy say even so much as, "Um, you know, I'd actually rather have my girlfriend, who is in fact right here, sitting on my lap, if that's okay." Dumbasses. :p

Hell I had 2 girlfriends who literally stood in front of one of my boyfriends and bent over (separate occasions).. It was so fucking obvious to me and my bf that I didn't do or say anything about it to them. Just laughed later.
Iniika
02-04-2009, 23:10
Why do men go for the clingy woman with obvious relationship issues who you don't have a chance of being with with because of said issues, and who, if by some miracle -does- give you that chance will bring with her the guarantee of drama again because of said issues, over the woman who is equally interested, and yet knows what she wants and isn't about to devalue herself into a tittering boob to get it? Are you just not that forward thinking? Do strong women frighten you so much? Are women who squeak really that much more appealing than women who don't fall to pieces over the smallest thing?

And along those same lines, why is the concept of equality in a relationship so hard to understand? No, I don't like being talked down to, joking or not, and I don't like constantly being lead around by the shoulder or neck and for godsake stop bending over backwards, breaking your back to make me happy! It makes you look rediculous! ARGH! I'm not a doll, and if I wanted something constantly rolling over and slobbering on me I'd get a dog! ¬¬
Neesika
02-04-2009, 23:11
One bad break-up. Someone says something mean. A bad day. She'll be rebounding all over you. :)

Yes, she likes to dangle that in front of me too, along with her breasts...
Risottia
02-04-2009, 23:12
I always wondered why women like go shopping through the town for hours. Really, it's pointless and boring, at least to me and to all men I know.
Neesika
02-04-2009, 23:13
I didn't like the jeans .. looked feminine or emoish. The second set of pants were just fine.

Emoish? That guy has an awesome ass and great legs...aren't emos all about hiding their bodies? Listen, you go ahead and call it feminine...he can spread his femininity all over me.
Grave_n_idle
02-04-2009, 23:13
Yes, she likes to dangle that in front of me too, along with her breasts...

She's evil. You should spank her.
Neesika
02-04-2009, 23:14
Why do men go for the clingy woman with obvious relationship issues who you don't have a chance of being with with because of said issues, and who, if by some miracle -does- give you that chance will bring with her the guarantee of drama again because of said issues, over the woman who is equally interested, and yet knows what she wants and isn't about to devalue herself into a tittering boob to get it? Are you just not that forward thinking? Do strong women frighten you so much? Are women who squeak really that much more appealing than women who don't fall to pieces over the smallest thing? Because those girls take it in the ass and don't complain about it.
Neesika
02-04-2009, 23:16
I always wondered why women like go shopping through the town for hours. Really, it's pointless and boring, at least to me and to all men I know. Which is why we tend to take our female friends along, so you don't ruin it for us!

She's evil. You should spank her.

Well I did a private fetish show for her and some of her friends...but that ended with me being more frustrated than she, argh!

Also, she's more of the spank giving type *sigh*.
Neesika
02-04-2009, 23:18
Listen, guys or girls who whine about how the opposite sex only likes the assholes/bitches and not them....

Well they need to move on.
Grave_n_idle
02-04-2009, 23:19
Because those girls take it in the ass and don't complain about it.

Maybe it's a perception thing.

Even among my circle of friends, it's not uncommon to hear a group of the girls discussing the emotional baggage that other-girl-x has.... and later, to hear a similar group, now including other-girl-x, talking about the emotional wreck that is other-girl-y's life... etc.

To cut a long story short (too late) maybe everyone thinks they're the strong one?
Naturality
02-04-2009, 23:19
I also reject entirely the notion of "friends" not becoming relationships. I have a good friend, a very good friend, who is a woman. When we first met, being that she's awfully cute, I of course tried to pick her up.

I was, rather politely, rebuked, and was told that she had bad experiences in the past, a rough relationship she wasn't over, and wasn't in a place in her life where she could enter into a relationship, and wouldn't be in the foreseeable future.

I'm dating her now.


Yeah all my relationships thus far have been with guy friends. For me it's because I have to be comfortable with them and get to know them before anything romantic can manifest.
Pyschotika
02-04-2009, 23:21
Yeah all my relationships thus far have been with guy friends. For me it's because I have to be comfortable with them and get to know them before anything romantic can manifest.

Shit!

A Gnome Warlock.
Neesika
02-04-2009, 23:25
To cut a long story short (too late) maybe everyone thinks they're the strong one?

Just like we all think we're not the whore.:D
Grave_n_idle
02-04-2009, 23:25
Well I did a private fetish show for her and some of her friends...but that ended with me being more frustrated than she, argh!


That's hilarious. And sad. :) And awesome - because it means she's subbing you without having to even commit.


Also, she's more of the spank giving type *sigh*.

It certainly sounds like it.

But - she is having a sexual relationship with you, of a D/s fashion, where she's basically doing everything but consummate, so I stick by my earlier assertion. One step away from begging you. :)
Grave_n_idle
02-04-2009, 23:26
Just like we all think we're not the whore.:D

Eep! We're supposed to think that?

:o

Or... just girls?
Pyschotika
02-04-2009, 23:28
I'm a Whore.
Neesika
02-04-2009, 23:30
That's hilarious. And sad. :) And awesome - because it means she's subbing you without having to even commit.

It certainly sounds like it.

But - she is having a sexual relationship with you, of a D/s fashion, where she's basically doing everything but consummate, so I stick by my earlier assertion. One step away from begging you. :)

God....damnit!

She certaintly does get a thrill from turning me on deliberately, reminding me she isn't going to fuck me, then turning me on some more. Yet she does check to make sure I'm okay with it. Usually when she's half naked around me again, as if I'm going to say no...

Yeah, they had me up on the coffee table and were touching. lol. It was hawt. Talking about what a shame it was none of them could fuck me because they all had 'rules'.

lol my favourite was when she showed me how her girlfriend likes to hold her down.

!!!!
Eep! We're supposed to think that?

:o

Or... just girls?
Hahahah, I dunno, I'm fond of the word, myself :D
Naturality
02-04-2009, 23:31
And women...when your man fucks around on you, do you go after the chick, or him? I don't get why so many of us go after just the woman. Tsk.


It'd be on him. I don't even think I'd even drop a female friend (if she was a good friend .. ie someone I can count on if I needed her) if she scrogged the guy I was with. I've learned to appreciate friendships much more as I've gotten older. And I believe I've learned not to stay in relationships with assholes. Though that's still to be seen as I've chose to not get close to another guy in years now. As long as I don't get back with that one X I think I'll be just fine. He had a strange power over me. Well I allowed him to have that power ..
Neesika
02-04-2009, 23:35
It'd be on him. I don't even think I'd even drop a female friend (if she was a good friend .. ie someone I can count on if I needed her) if she scrogged the guy I was with. I've learned to appreciate friendships much more as I've gotten older.

Yup.

Thought that's a pretty fundamental breach of trust on her part too.
Pyschotika
02-04-2009, 23:40
Yup.

Thought that's a pretty fundamental breach of trust on her part too.

You know, this oddly reminds me of a story that involved my Cousin and his Best Friend at the time who were shagging (Yay, I said it.. SHAGGING, woohoo for using British terms) the same girl behind one another's back and only I and thus said Girl knew this detail (Well, I'd hope she'd know..) for the longest time.

Funniest year of my life.
Poliwanacraca
02-04-2009, 23:43
Which is why we tend to take our female friends along, so you don't ruin it for us!

Although I admit, one of the funniest memories I have of my Evil Ex was when he went shoe shopping with me (because he was actually buying the shoes in question so he could take me out swing dancing). He could not comprehend why I couldn't buy any of the shoes in the first store in the mall, and then by the fourth store, produced the following hysterical quote, "Hey, those shoes the salesgirl is wearing are kinda the right sort of thing oh my god I just noticed a woman's shoes YOU'RE TURNING ME INTO A GIRL."
Hydesland
02-04-2009, 23:45
This is going to be one of those threads that last for 500 pages, isn't it.
Naturality
02-04-2009, 23:46
Yup.

Thought that's a pretty fundamental breach of trust on her part too.


Yep .. but I could deal with that. Takes two to tango. If he's not willing it won't happen. If he rejects and she continues to pursue and he tells me or I find out somehow that he did the right thing and she's not respecting that. Then I step in.
Pyschotika
02-04-2009, 23:47
This is going to be one of those threads that last for 500 pages, isn't it.

Only if you take part in it.
Neesika
02-04-2009, 23:48
This is going to be one of those threads that last for 500 pages, isn't it.

As it should. The mysteries of the opposite sex are infinite!

By the way, on the subject of shoes...many guys spend an inordinate amount of money on kicks that are merely that price because of brand name, so clearly some men pay attention to these things as well.
Hydesland
02-04-2009, 23:49
Only if you take part in it.

Ah yes, I forgot about how much of a chick magnet I am.
Neesika
02-04-2009, 23:50
Yep .. but I could deal with that. Takes two to tango. If he's not willing it won't happen. If he rejects and she continues to pursue and he tells me or I find out somehow that he did the right thing and she's not respecting that. Then I step in.

True enough he's the biggest turd in this scenario, but I'm not sure I could trust a friend who didn't come to me first about fucking my boyfriend. Christ, it's not like I'd say no!
Pyschotika
02-04-2009, 23:52
Ah yes, I forgot about how much of a chick magnet I am.

I don't want to be one of the seemingly few guys stuck in this thread, though.

As it should. The mysteries of the opposite sex are infinite!

By the way, on the subject of shoes...many guys spend an inordinate amount of money on kicks that are merely that price because of brand name, so clearly some men pay attention to these things as well.

I love my shoes. A lot of people fancy them, too. What is especially nice, however, is when I'm asked what Brand and I give them the name.. it's none of the big brand ones, so they always seemingly go 'eh? You mean like.. bla bla bla'.

Feh.
Hydesland
02-04-2009, 23:52
By the way, on the subject of shoes...many guys spend an inordinate amount of money on kicks that are merely that price because of brand name, so clearly some men pay attention to these things as well.

Maximum I've ever spent was about £60 ($80), but I usually spend maximum £30. I just couldn't give a crap about the branding of shoes, as long as it looks passable. None of the shoes I wear atm are recognizable brands, as far as I know.
Grave_n_idle
02-04-2009, 23:52
God....damnit!

She certaintly does get a thrill from turning me on deliberately, reminding me she isn't going to fuck me, then turning me on some more. Yet she does check to make sure I'm okay with it. Usually when she's half naked around me again, as if I'm going to say no...

Yeah, they had me up on the coffee table and were touching. lol. It was hawt. Talking about what a shame it was none of them could fuck me because they all had 'rules'.

lol my favourite was when she showed me how her girlfriend likes to hold her down.

!!!!


You should take comfort in the fact that she finds you so hot, if nothing else.

Or... no, because if you admit to yourself how hot she thinks you are, are you going to change the dynamic... hmmm

...but then, if you do change that dynamic, just a little, she might have to go a little further to regain the equilibrium.

What tangled webs we weave.
Neesika
02-04-2009, 23:53
Maximum I've ever spent was about £60 ($80), but I usually spend maximum £30. I just couldn't give a crap about the branding of shoes, as long as it looks passable. None of the shoes I wear atm are recognizable brands, as far as I know.

My youngest brother who is very thrifty in all other respects, has a real thing for shoes. He's constantly commenting on the shoes that people are wearing. Says you can tell a lot about a person based on what kind of shoes they wear...which when he explains it, is a pretty good theory.
Grave_n_idle
02-04-2009, 23:54
Maximum I've ever spent was about £60 ($80), but I usually spend maximum £30. I just couldn't give a crap about the branding of shoes, as long as it looks passable. None of the shoes I wear atm are recognizable brands, as far as I know.

Maximum I've spent on boots was about £200...
Neesika
02-04-2009, 23:54
You should take comfort in the fact that she finds you so hot, if nothing else.

Or... no, because if you admit to yourself how hot she thinks you are, are you going to change the dynamic... hmmm

...but then, if you do change that dynamic, just a little, she might have to go a little further to regain the equilibrium.

What tangled webs we weave.

See but I don't think she DOES think I'm hot. I mean, she likes my body, but she's not attracted to me. Or so she said. And I'm going to go with that cuz right now she's not making me go down on her so :mad:
Smunkeeville
02-04-2009, 23:55
And women...when your man fucks around on you, do you go after the chick, or him? I don't get why so many of us go after just the woman. Tsk.

I never understood that either. However, I've never been cheated on, so who knows.

There was a chick recently who was pursuing my man, he was ignoring her but she just wouldn't leave it alone. I got really pissed at her, wanted to stab her in the face......ended up compromising for telling her to leave him alone.....but geez, the rage.

I guess I didn't have anything to really be mad at him about though, he didn't do anything wrong....

I don't know what I would have done if he was doing something inappropriate though, I'm gonna guess stab them both in the face.
Hydesland
02-04-2009, 23:55
My youngest brother who is very thrifty in all other respects, has a real thing for shoes. He's constantly commenting on the shoes that people are wearing. Says you can tell a lot about a person based on what kind of shoes they wear...which when he explains it, is a pretty good theory.

I dunno, I guess it was important when I was younger. And to be fair, I did wear expensive 'skater shoes' when I was younger, so people could tell I was a 'skater', now that I remember.
Grave_n_idle
02-04-2009, 23:56
See but I don't think she DOES think I'm hot. I mean, she likes my body, but she's not attracted to me. Or so she said. And I'm going to go with that cuz right now she's not making me go down on her so :mad:

Literal. LOL.
Pyschotika
02-04-2009, 23:56
See but I don't think she DOES think I'm hot. I mean, she likes my body, but she's not attracted to me. Or so she said. And I'm going to go with that cuz right now she's not making me go down on her so :mad:

Tease her back, dammit.
Hydesland
02-04-2009, 23:56
Maximum I've spent on boots was about £200...

:eek2: What makes boots worth that much?
Neesika
02-04-2009, 23:56
Maximum I've spent on boots was about £200...
I don't mind paying $150 or a bit more for a sturdy pair of boots that will last a few years. Damn people, you're on your feet most of the day, treat them to decent shoes!

I'm going to go a little silly this spring and buy some nice colourful flats/sandals if it EVER FUCKING STOPS SNOWING *looks outside mournfully*. Because I'm sort of forced to start wearing more skirts and dresses. You know. For easy access.

I'm a very practical girl. If I look pretty at the same time, more's the better.
Neesika
02-04-2009, 23:59
Tease her back, dammit.

She's either impervious or really good at hiding it.

Since she keeps getting me to try on clothes for her, I'm guessing the second. But that might just be part of her game to get ME turned on. Frick.
Holy Cheese and Shoes
02-04-2009, 23:59
Maximum I've spent on boots was about £200...

Hmmm....... £60. I might go higher if it was someone else's money.


Surely this sort of question deserves a poll? With Neesika's brother's theory evaluating us all?
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 00:01
Hey, while we're at it, is it true that within ten minutes of meeting a man, women place him in either the "friend" category or the "potential lover" category, and once you've been placed, you can never make the leap to the other category?

Because if that's true, that's incredibly depressing.
Nope. That theory is one created by guys who can't get laid and need to come up with an excuse.

I also reject entirely the notion of "friends" not becoming relationships. I have a good friend, a very good friend, who is a woman. When we first met, being that she's awfully cute, I of course tried to pick her up.

I was, rather politely, rebuked, and was told that she had bad experiences in the past, a rough relationship she wasn't over, and wasn't in a place in her life where she could enter into a relationship, and wouldn't be in the foreseeable future.

I'm dating her now.
*vomits*

It's alright, but the human wang really is where all the action happens.
I dunno...while I do enjoy a bit of lovin on the wang, I also enjoy when someone goes after the ears, neck, nipples, or inner thigh.



as for how I dress, I know what parts of me look good. I know I have a pretty decent ass, and wear pants that generally show it. I also know that red looks really good on me, as do backwards baseball caps. If I know it looks good, I wear it much more frequently.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 00:05
*vomits* Don't be catty.

Oh wait, I responded in a simlar vein, nm, continue!




as for how I dress, I know what parts of me look good. I know I have a pretty decent ass, and wear pants that generally show it. I also know that red looks really good on me, as do backwards baseball caps. If I know it looks good, I wear it much more frequently.

Learn from this man, you boys out there.
Hydesland
03-04-2009, 00:06
as do backwards baseball caps.

I cannot accept this. Backwards baseball caps never look good on anyone!
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 00:08
:eek2: What makes boots worth that much?

I posted some by the company earlier.

They're New Rocks - and they've become quite popular, now, in movies, etc. (Michelle Rodriguez was wearing New Rocks in "The Fast and The Furious", I noticed). They are also the most comfortable boots I have ever worn, and have lasted me better than ten years (when I normally get through boots in maybe a year) - so, not only are they gorgeous, they are also awesome.

I don't think they even sell the exact ones I wear - but these are quite similar:

http://www.newrockstore.com/zona1/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=18_1&products_id=161
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 00:08
Don't be catty.

Oh wait, I responded in a simlar vein, nm, continue!




Learn from this man, you boys out there.
It isn't even that hard...I generally wear X2's because they happen to make me look pretty bangin'. And it isn't like they're uncomfortable...I actually find them more comfortable than many of my baggier pants. Girls in my life have also been pretty good about saying "wow. You look hot today" or "that shirt looks good on you". Listen to them. They're training you.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 00:11
I cannot accept this. Backwards baseball caps never look good on anyone!

*shrug* I like how they look on me. Better than forwards too.

best look I've managed to pull off was when I still had my blue mohawk, wore an American Eagle polo shirt, and camo cargo pants. My sisters friends all saw me, said "You know, anyone else would look stupid like that. You look hot." Three styles that have little business mixing work really well when you carry yourself right.
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 00:12
I don't mind paying $150 or a bit more for a sturdy pair of boots that will last a few years. Damn people, you're on your feet most of the day, treat them to decent shoes!

I'm going to go a little silly this spring and buy some nice colourful flats/sandals if it EVER FUCKING STOPS SNOWING *looks outside mournfully*. Because I'm sort of forced to start wearing more skirts and dresses. You know. For easy access.

I'm a very practical girl. If I look pretty at the same time, more's the better.

I'm very practical too. The boots I wear have become a fashion icon in some circles since I started wearing them (and they really do turn heads), but that wasn't really why I bought them.

I bought them because - yes, they are quite yummy - but they're also phenomenally tough, AND comfortable. If they wore out in five minutes, like Doc Martens do, I wouldn't have spent nearly as much on them as I did. If they weren't extraordinarily comfortable, I wouldn't have bought them at all. :)
Gift-of-god
03-04-2009, 00:12
It isn't even that hard...I generally wear X2's because they happen to make me look pretty bangin'. And it isn't like they're uncomfortable...I actually find them more comfortable than many of my baggier pants. Girls in my life have also been pretty good about saying "wow. You look hot today" or "that shirt looks good on you". Listen to them. They're training you.

Gay men are also a good source of that kind of info. I'd even go so far as to say they're better.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 00:15
Gay men are also a good source of that kind of info. I'd even go so far as to say they're better.

no question. It was a gay guy who first told me I had a nice ass.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 00:15
Gay men do know how to show off their ass...ets.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 00:16
Okay my next question! You know how straight girls are willing to kiss other straight girls to get the attention of het boys?

What can we do to make this a trend among straight boys, to turn us girls on?
Sdaeriji
03-04-2009, 00:16
This thread is spectacular. It has a topic and, yet, no topic, at the same time. It's about cheating and boots and blue mohawks!
Poliwanacraca
03-04-2009, 00:17
*vomits*


Aw, don't be jealous. I know NA is pretty sexy, but there are other misspelled fish in the lawyer sea. You'll land a nice boy of your own one of these days. :tongue:
Neesika
03-04-2009, 00:18
This thread is spectacular. It has a topic and, yet, no topic, at the same time. It's about cheating and boots and blue mohawks!

The topic is broad, of general interest, and cuts across political background. I'm rather fond of it:)
Sdaeriji
03-04-2009, 00:19
Okay my next question! You know how straight girls are willing to kiss other straight girls to get the attention of het boys?

What can we do to make this a trend among straight boys, to turn us girls on?

I don't know if that would work. From my experiences, two boys kissing is far less universal a turn on for girls as two girls kissing is for boys.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 00:21
Aw, don't be jealous. I know NA is pretty sexy, but there are other misspelled fish in the lawyer sea. You'll land a nice boy of your own one of these days. :tongue:
Well, one bit the line...now it's just reeling them in.
Okay my next question! You know how straight girls are willing to kiss other straight girls to get the attention of het boys?

What can we do to make this a trend among straight boys, to turn us girls on?Tequilla and cash, generally.

This thread is spectacular. It has a topic and, yet, no topic, at the same time. It's about cheating and boots and blue mohawks!
Who would have guessed we could keep focused for this long?
Pyschotika
03-04-2009, 00:24
Depends on the other guy, and who it was we were doing it for.
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 00:25
Well, one bit the line...now it's just reeling them in.


I keep telling you, I'm not a lawyer...


Tequilla and cash, generally.


Mainly tequila.
Poliwanacraca
03-04-2009, 00:26
Well, one bit the line...

That sounds painful! :wink:
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 00:30
I keep telling you, I'm not a lawyer...Say it with me. Role. Playing. Role playing. Can you say that? Good. I knew you could. :p



Mainly tequila.Or gin. Depending upon the guy.

That sounds painful! :wink:

You know as well as I do that "pain" is entirely subjective.


I'm still curious why girls go to the bathroom in packs. I've never gotten a decent answer.
Galloism
03-04-2009, 00:31
I understand you want men to dress better Neesika, but I look like this (http://chuckcurry.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/batman-penguin.jpg), and there's not much that can be done really.
Pyschotika
03-04-2009, 00:37
I'm surprised we haven't been asked the age old Argument - "Why do Men prefer threesomes with another Woman rather than another Man"

hmm..

Something's just afoot here.

Though, I don't think it'd be fair for me to ask my own Sex that question. I'm rather neutral in this thread atm I suppose, an instigator of sorts. *Ebil Laffter of doohmeh*

/boredom
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 00:39
Say it with me. Role. Playing. Role playing. Can you say that? Good. I knew you could. :p


I don't think you love me for me at all... you just use me for your games!

*runs off crying*

I'm still curious why girls go to the bathroom in packs. I've never gotten a decent answer.

I think the answer to this one was in another thread, recently... something about all girls being gay, because they're pretty? So - it must be for the lesbian sex. QED.
Pyschotika
03-04-2009, 00:41
i don't think you love me for me at all... You just use me for your games!

*runs off crying*



i think the answer to this one was in another thread, recently... Something about all girls being gay, because they're pretty? So - it must be for the lesbian sex. Qed.

42?
Sdaeriji
03-04-2009, 00:41
I'm surprised we haven't been asked the age old Argument - "Why do Men prefer threesomes with another Woman rather than another Man"


They don't, necessarily. Most maybe, but definitely not all.
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 00:42
I'm surprised we haven't been asked the age old Argument - "Why do Men prefer threesomes with another Woman rather than another Man"


Most men seem to enjoy this fantasy because they seem to imagine that it would actually play out as two girls doing all the hard work, and the chappy in question getting to ride in at the last minute and get all the glory.
Pyschotika
03-04-2009, 00:43
Most men seem to enjoy this fantasy because they seem to imagine that it would actually play out as two girls doing all the hard work, and the chappy in question getting to ride in at the last minute and get all the glory.

...

I could only face palm and laugh.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 00:44
I don't think you love me for me at all... you just use me for your games!

*runs off crying*but they are fun games, aren't they?



I think the answer to this one was in another thread, recently... something about all girls being gay, because they're pretty? So - it must be for the lesbian sex. QED.

I'll allow it.
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 00:46
but they are fun games, aren't they?


Yes. Sir.

*looks penitent*


I'll allow it.

Journalists race from all around the world. Presses heat up for a rushed evening special. Headlines blare on every paper: "Sarkhaan Allows Lesbianism In Bathrooms".

A world rejoices.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 00:50
Yes. Sir.

*looks penitent*



Journalists race from all around the world. Presses heat up for a rushed evening special. Headlines blare on every paper: "Sarkhaan Allows Lesbianism In Bathrooms".

A world rejoices.

Ah yes. Finally. The power and respect I deserve.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 00:59
Another question...why can't guys ever do the right thing in the eyes of girls? I once dated a girl who would tell me that she was in a bad mood and to leave her alone, so I would. She would then be angry that I didn't care enough to persist. (admittedly, she was a bitch)
Chandelier
03-04-2009, 00:59
I'm still curious why girls go to the bathroom in packs. I've never gotten a decent answer.

I'm a girl and I don't do that or understand it, but I've been told that that's the reason the men's bathroom at one of the Beef O' Brady's around here has a TV while the women's bathroom doesn't. When my dad and my brothers got back from the bathroom (independently from each other of course) they each talked about what channel it had been on when they had been in there and then they wanted to know what channel the TV in the women's bathroom was on. There was no TV so I thought they had been lying, but then the waitress confirmed that there was a TV in the men's bathroom, but there wasn't one in the women's bathroom, because women go in groups. But I don't. :(


... I don't get the shoe thing either. I have a pair of sneakers for everyday use. I have a pair of dressier shoes for if I ever have to dress up. I have a pair of cow slippers, and then a pair of wooden shoes, both of which I got as souvenirs when I went to the Netherlands. I don't think that's too many...how many different kinds do most people have? My mom seems to have a bunch of shoes.

For the clothes thing... I just pick out clothes, and if I look good in them, that's okay, but if I don't, that's okay, too. They're just clothes...no point in wasting a bunch of time on them, I say.
Big Jim P
03-04-2009, 01:01
Another question...why can't guys ever do the right thing in the eyes of girls? I once dated a girl who would tell me that she was in a bad mood and to leave her alone, so I would. She would then be angry that I didn't care enough to persist. (admittedly, she was a bitch)

In the end they all are.:(
TJHairball
03-04-2009, 01:03
Some guys have legs that should absolutely be seen.
And I, for one, think my legs are one of my best features. Which is why I think men's fashion is ridiculous.
... I don't get the shoe thing either. I have a pair of sneakers for everyday use. I have a pair of dressier shoes for if I ever have to dress up. I have a pair of cow slippers, and then a pair of wooden shoes, both of which I got as souvenirs when I went to the Netherlands. I don't think that's too many...how many different kinds do most people have? My mom seems to have a bunch of shoes.
I have a pair of black formal shoes, a pair of brown formal shoes, a pair of hiking boots, a pair of work boots, a pair of racing flats, a small "good" pair of sneakers that I mostly used for fencing training, a pair of sandals, a pair of pool shoes, a pair of recent sneakers, and several pairs of older sneakers for back-up purposes.
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 01:13
That's all I've come up with, too.

Once a truck full of guys did that and then got stuck at a red light so long that I caught up to them again. They were all sitting still and staring straight ahead, looking somewhat uncomfortable.

NOw maybe not cat-calling as in "love your big titties" but something a bit more friendly and funny such as a bit of awave anda smile can work. I remember early last year I was riding in boot of a hatchback and behind us was a car full of chicks they saw me sitting in the back so I waved gave them a bit of a smile and indicated them to move alongside the car. After a quick chat I managed to get the number of the driver. Now I didn't get laid in the end but that was due to something else rather than flirting in the car. Besides that it is a bit of fun to do.

Women seriously do that? That's horrible.

Some womenare bitches, surely you have learnt this by now.

Ok, I'm going to say it, and I know it's horribly non-objective and all that, but why are there so very few really funny female comedians.

^This, some of them think they are funny some people think they are funny bu the reality is I just end up sitting there bored out of my mind.
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 01:13
I have a wide range of female friends, straight and gay. Among them, only a very small percentage are what I'd call low-libidoed. Also, you should hear how women talk when it's just us girls. It'd have you blushing for days.

I can confirm this, I have been stuck in a few conversations between my femalefriends and some of the stuff they tal about is worse then what I've ever said or been told by any of my mates.

I also reject entirely the notion of "friends" not becoming relationships. I have a good friend, a very good friend, who is a woman. When we first met, being that she's awfully cute, I of course tried to pick her up.

I was, rather politely, rebuked, and was told that she had bad experiences in the past, a rough relationship she wasn't over, and wasn't in a place in her life where she could enter into a relationship, and wouldn't be in the foreseeable future.

I'm dating her now.

That may have been because you were high enough up the friends ladder that a jump across was allowed, eiter that ir you were always on he sex ladder but just had to wait awhile till she was ready to have sex with you.
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 01:15
Okay my next question! You know how straight girls are willing to kiss other straight girls to get the attention of het boys?

What can we do to make this a trend among straight boys, to turn us girls on?

The question is would that work? And I don't mean turning you on I mean getting you in the sack? After all when some chicks do it you know they are trying to impress the guys and get the better ones in bed with them. I ave tried this before and it ended up them thinking we were gay and so some left us leaving the two others to foloow their friends. Meant we had to start the whole process again.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 01:16
Tequilla and cash, generally.

Hmmm. I'll keep that in mind. I know what I'm asking my friends for on my birthday!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/21/27186807_403b07c22f.jpg


I'm still curious why girls go to the bathroom in packs. I've never gotten a decent answer.I already answered this!

Okay there are a couple of things going on. For one thing, a woman in a club is more confident when she has her friend (or friends) with her. It's less creepy, and trust me, it can get PLENTY creepy even just on the way to the bathroom. Having our girls with us, we get to check out guys we might be interested in, without attracting the kind of a attention a girl on her own might. We use these bathroom sessions to 'check in' with one another too. It's a little quieter in the bathroom and we can talk about how the night is going, who we're interested in, who we're NOT interested in, go over any drama that might be ocurring, and come up with plans to ditch so and so or not, depending. We figure out if we're going to be going home with someone, and we let each other know...or we make arrangements as to where we're going to crash.

Sometimes we need tampons, makeup, or someone to fix our bra strap. You just never know.

I understand you want men to dress better Neesika, but I look like this (http://chuckcurry.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/batman-penguin.jpg), and there's not much that can be done really.
Then I suggest washing off the makeup, and possibly getting a haircut :P
Neesika
03-04-2009, 01:19
The question is would that work? And I don't mean turning you on I mean getting you in the sack? After all when some chicks do it you know they are trying to impress the guys and get the better ones in bed with them. I ave tried this before and it ended up them thinking we were gay and so some left us leaving the two others to foloow their friends. Meant we had to start the whole process again.

It'd definitely get me thinking about what it'd like to be sandwiched between them.
Poliwanacraca
03-04-2009, 01:26
That may have been because you were high enough up the friends ladder that a jump across was allowed, eiter that ir you were always on he sex ladder but just had to wait awhile till she was ready to have sex with you.

"Ladder theory" is really very dumb. The only thing that it gets right, as far as I can tell, is that there are indeed some people that, no matter how much you like them, you just don't have any sexual/romantic chemistry with, and that's that. It's not a question of them somehow putting themselves on the "friend ladder," it's just that they're not right for you and nothing they could do could make them right for you. However, every guy I've dated has been a friend first, and none of them sparked at all on my "hmm, kinda want to fuck him" meter until I'd known them for a while - and of those guys I've dated, one of them is now a good friend whom I'd never seriously consider fooling around with again. The idea that women somehow lock men into "friend" and "lover" roles at any point, let alone right off the bat, is crap. If there's chemistry, a guy could become either. If there's not, then yeah, he's never going to end up in bed with her, but it's nothing to do with something he did or something she decided.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 01:33
Another question...why can't guys ever do the right thing in the eyes of girls? I once dated a girl who would tell me that she was in a bad mood and to leave her alone, so I would. She would then be angry that I didn't care enough to persist. (admittedly, she was a bitch)
People are bad at communicating with one another. Especially when it comes to what they want. Sorry.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 01:37
"Ladder theory" is really very dumb. The only thing that it gets right, as far as I can tell, is that there are indeed some people that, no matter how much you like them, you just don't have any sexual/romantic chemistry with, and that's that. It's not a question of them somehow putting themselves on the "friend ladder," it's just that they're not right for you and nothing they could do could make them right for you. However, every guy I've dated has been a friend first, and none of them sparked at all on my "hmm, kinda want to fuck him" meter until I'd known them for a while - and of those guys I've dated, one of them is now a good friend whom I'd never seriously consider fooling around with again. The idea that women somehow lock men into "friend" and "lover" roles at any point, let alone right off the bat, is crap. If there's chemistry, a guy could become either. If there's not, then yeah, he's never going to end up in bed with her, but it's nothing to do with something he did or something she decided.Like I said, it is a theory created by guys who can't get laid, and need an excuse.
Galloism
03-04-2009, 01:38
People are bad at communicating with one another. Especially when it comes to what they want. Sorry.

I have a related question.

How do women remember all the birthdays and anniversaries of both families, remember their likes, dislikes, all the holidays, etc?

That stuff is exhausting. I don't even remember my own birthday unless somebody points it out.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 01:39
People are bad at communicating with one another. Especially when it comes to what they want. Sorry.

she was the worst, and is now the reason why, at the beginning of any relationship, I warn the other person "I don't play games. If you try to play a game, I will beat you at it, and then be really really really pissed off that you did it. Save us both the time and don't."

Other person decides to test me. I figure it out, and purposely fail the test. When they say "you were supposed to do this", I say "fuck off. If you want me to do something, ask. If you don't ask, I won't do it."
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 01:40
I have a related question.

How do women remember all the birthdays and anniversaries of both families, remember their likes, dislikes, all the holidays, etc?

That stuff is exhausting. I don't even remember my own birthday unless somebody points it out.

in my family, it's reversed. Dad remembers all the dates, mom has lots of calendars to keep track. I wait for them to email me to remind me.
Galloism
03-04-2009, 01:42
in my family, it's reversed. Dad remembers all the dates, mom has lots of calendars to keep track. I wait for them to email me to remind me.

Odd. Every woman I ever dated was able to keep track of all that in really short order. In my family, it was mom that remembered all that stuff and dad that signed the card for the family - she just told him where to sign.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 01:44
Hmmm. I'll keep that in mind. I know what I'm asking my friends for on my birthday!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/21/27186807_403b07c22f.jpghaha...nice.
I already answered this!

Okay there are a couple of things going on. For one thing, a woman in a club is more confident when she has her friend (or friends) with her. It's less creepy, and trust me, it can get PLENTY creepy even just on the way to the bathroom. Having our girls with us, we get to check out guys we might be interested in, without attracting the kind of a attention a girl on her own might. We use these bathroom sessions to 'check in' with one another too. It's a little quieter in the bathroom and we can talk about how the night is going, who we're interested in, who we're NOT interested in, go over any drama that might be ocurring, and come up with plans to ditch so and so or not, depending. We figure out if we're going to be going home with someone, and we let each other know...or we make arrangements as to where we're going to crash.

Sometimes we need tampons, makeup, or someone to fix our bra strap. You just never know.I guess guys just do it all without talking. There's the look, wink wink nudge nudge, which says "if you fuck this up for me, I'll kill you. And don't expect me to go home later". And then there's the look of "oh for the love of god save me. Please? I know...I know...I was a dick earlier. I'm sorry. Really. I didn't mean it. I will never, ever do it again if you will just GET ME OUT OF HERE."


as for drama, we usually say "fuck it, let's get (more) drunk."


Then I suggest washing off the makeup, and possibly getting a haircut :PHe may want to keep the makeup...we don't know what's underneath. Devil you know is better than the one you don't.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 01:46
I have a related question.

How do women remember all the birthdays and anniversaries of both families, remember their likes, dislikes, all the holidays, etc?

That stuff is exhausting. I don't even remember my own birthday unless somebody points it out.

Don't ask me, I'm completely clueless. Names and dates...I do NOT remember them. Seriously. I have gone to school with people for three years who I still refer to as 'you' because I haven't the faintest idea what their names are. Birthdays? Anniversaries? Pffft, if my computer didn't automatically adjust, I'd miss daylight savings day. These things are unimportant to me, and I often get in shit from people who think I should care. I don't expect SO to pay attention to these things, but sadly it's probably I who will end up offending someone by forgetting.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 01:47
Don't ask me, I'm completely clueless. Names and dates...I do NOT remember them. Seriously. I have gone to school with people for three years who I still refer to as 'you' because I haven't the faintest idea what their name is. Birthdays? Anniversaries? Pffft, if my computer didn't automatically adjust, I'd miss daylight savings day. These things are unimportant to me, and I often get in shit from people who think I should care. I don't expect SO to pay attention to these things, but sadly it's probably I who will end up offending someone by forgetting.

I drove a kid home from school every day for two years. I still don't know his name.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 01:50
she was the worst, and is now the reason why, at the beginning of any relationship, I warn the other person "I don't play games. If you try to play a game, I will beat you at it, and then be really really really pissed off that you did it. Save us both the time and don't."

Other person decides to test me. I figure it out, and purposely fail the test. When they say "you were supposed to do this", I say "fuck off. If you want me to do something, ask. If you don't ask, I won't do it."

Good way to deal with it. My biggest problem is forcing myself not to read a million different things into a tone of voice, a sigh, a look. I console myself with the fact that I became hyper aware of these things because they helped me predict blowups. My biggest obstacle right now is making myself believe a blowup is not coming.
Smunkeeville
03-04-2009, 01:50
Odd. Every woman I ever dated was able to keep track of all that in really short order. In my family, it was mom that remembered all that stuff and dad that signed the card for the family - she just told him where to sign.

I thought my mother in law had it down, with 7 sisters each with an average of 7 kids each with an average of 3 kids......she knows them all. I found her secret last Christmas, behind her calendar on the fridge where the last page is "emergency numbers" she wrote it all down, each year she transfers it all to the new calendar.

I do good to remember my kids and husband's special dates.....seriously. I'm stealing her trick.

Also, after I confronted her I found out she has a shoebox of birthday cards, she just buys them randomly and then pulls one whenever she needs it.

I feel cheated.
Galloism
03-04-2009, 01:54
Hmm... every girlfriend I've ever had could remember all of it... sometimes even remembering things I don't remember telling her.
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 01:56
It'd definitely get me thinking about what it'd like to be sandwiched between them.

Why aren't there more women like you at the clubs I frequent? :(
Neesika
03-04-2009, 01:58
Why aren't there more women like you at the clubs I frequent? :(

Cuz bitches be trippin'.

Why aren't there guys like you making out at the clubs I frequent!?

Oh right. This is Alberta. We hate them fags. :(
Philosophy and Hope
03-04-2009, 01:58
That's all I've come up with, too.

Once a truck full of guys did that and then got stuck at a red light so long that I caught up to them again. They were all sitting still and staring straight ahead, looking somewhat uncomfortable.

well i know that feeling but it's usually when i get pulled over
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 02:00
"Ladder theory" is really very dumb. The only thing that it gets right, as far as I can tell, is that there are indeed some people that, no matter how much you like them, you just don't have any sexual/romantic chemistry with, and that's that. It's not a question of them somehow putting themselves on the "friend ladder," it's just that they're not right for you and nothing they could do could make them right for you. However, every guy I've dated has been a friend first, and none of them sparked at all on my "hmm, kinda want to fuck him" meter until I'd known them for a while - and of those guys I've dated, one of them is now a good friend whom I'd never seriously consider fooling around with again. The idea that women somehow lock men into "friend" and "lover" roles at any point, let alone right off the bat, is crap. If there's chemistry, a guy could become either. If there's not, then yeah, he's never going to end up in bed with her, but it's nothing to do with something he did or something she decided.

Yeah I know but it is a fun thing to repeat and have a laugh over. There aren't to many people who take it serously and use it as gospel.

Here is a question though, if a good friend which you didn't think you really want to have sex with started to come on to you and was really trying to get you in bed with him would you remain friends with him?
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 02:03
Cuz bitches be trippin'.

Why aren't there guys like you making out at the clubs I frequent!?

Oh right. This is Alberta. We hate them fags. :(

We hate them too around here but there is enough people who don't care all that much and enough gay people for them not to worry. Plus when in aclub and drunk around people who don't know you and you may never se again then who really cares what they think.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 02:04
Good way to deal with it. My biggest problem is forcing myself not to read a million different things into a tone of voice, a sigh, a look. I console myself with the fact that I became hyper aware of these things because they helped me predict blowups. My biggest obstacle right now is making myself believe a blowup is not coming.

I do the same...I tend to be a very paranoid person in relationships because I've had some bad experiences. I'm not so bad at the sigh or look thing, but tone of voice and worse, silence, will kill me. Add to that a very long time of not dating (5 or 6 years prior to recent events), and you get OCD sarky.
Galloism
03-04-2009, 02:07
I do the same...I tend to be a very paranoid person in relationships because I've had some bad experiences. I'm not so bad at the sigh or look thing, but tone of voice and worse, silence, will kill me. Add to that a very long time of not dating (5 or 6 years prior to recent events), and you get OCD sarky.

Heh, sounds like me, except I get jumpy when I see a woman with a big knife. Part of that whole "experience" thing.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 02:09
Heh, sounds like me, except I get jumpy when I see a woman with a big knife. Part of that whole "experience" thing.

John Bobbitt?
Galloism
03-04-2009, 02:13
John Bobbitt?

Nah, but I did have one try to stab me with a really long kitchen knife. Long story, but I still maintain it wasn't my fault.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 02:15
Nah, but I did have one try to stab me with a really long kitchen knife. Long story, but I still maintain it wasn't my fault.

It never is.
Galloism
03-04-2009, 02:16
It never is.

Naturally.
Poliwanacraca
03-04-2009, 02:35
Yeah I know but it is a fun thing to repeat and have a laugh over. There aren't to many people who take it serously and use it as gospel.

Here is a question though, if a good friend which you didn't think you really want to have sex with started to come on to you and was really trying to get you in bed with him would you remain friends with him?

I have done so more than once. It's also very much strained a friendship or two. It all kinda depends on how well the guy deals with "no."
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 02:39
I have done so more than once. It's also very much strained a friendship or two. It all kinda depends on how well the guy deals with "no."

Obviously assault is going to mean the friend is gone but you say that the friendship is strained a bit, which is something that theory mentions. Not trying to defend it or anything but in every joke there is an element of truth.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 02:39
I have done so more than once. It's also very much strained a friendship or two. It all kinda depends on how well the guy deals with "no."

I always find it interesting that only guys felt the need to create the ladder concept. Being told "no" sucks, regardless of gender.
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 02:42
I always find it interesting that only guys felt the need to create the ladder concept. Being told "no" sucks, regardless of gender.

haha, true, doesn't it also talk of the ladder for men? Actually when you take that into consideration your reasoning behind it being invented makes much more sense
Truly Blessed
03-04-2009, 02:43
I cannot accept this. Backwards baseball caps never look good on anyone!

Unless you are catching behind home plate. A couple of photographers i know say it gets in the way of shooting pictures. Okay, alright the,n at least that is a good reason.
Truly Blessed
03-04-2009, 02:46
That, my friend, depends on the boots.

http://www.newrockstore.com/zona1/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=642

Alright you got me there but then you should be wearing riding pants or whatever they call them. Like the police wear.
Truly Blessed
03-04-2009, 02:49
Why do men go for the clingy woman with obvious relationship issues who you don't have a chance of being with with because of said issues, and who, if by some miracle -does- give you that chance will bring with her the guarantee of drama again because of said issues, over the woman who is equally interested, and yet knows what she wants and isn't about to devalue herself into a tittering boob to get it? Are you just not that forward thinking? Do strong women frighten you so much? Are women who squeak really that much more appealing than women who don't fall to pieces over the smallest thing?

And along those same lines, why is the concept of equality in a relationship so hard to understand? No, I don't like being talked down to, joking or not, and I don't like constantly being lead around by the shoulder or neck and for godsake stop bending over backwards, breaking your back to make me happy! It makes you look rediculous! ARGH! I'm not a doll, and if I wanted something constantly rolling over and slobbering on me I'd get a dog! ¬¬

Never met one of these. I am at a loss. Guys can't tell drama for normal.
Poliwanacraca
03-04-2009, 02:53
Obviously assault is going to mean the friend is gone but you say that the friendship is strained a bit, which is something that theory mentions. Not trying to defend it or anything but in every joke there is an element of truth.

Oh, I didn't mean anything so awful as assault - I just remember one guy in particular who would. not. take. the hint. We had been friends for some time, he asked me out, I said no, he asked me out again, I said no, he asked me out AGAIN, I made it very, very, very explicitly clear that I was never going to date him, and he still kept basically following me around going, "pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease?" That's disrespectful and annoying, and I don't really seek out the company of disrespectful, annoying people. Similarly, I've had two male friends who have at one point declared that they were deeply in love with me, and, understandably, they had some issues being around me for a while after confessing that and having to be gently but firmly shot down. I'm still friends with both of them today, though not as close as I once was with one of them.

At the same time, there have also been male friends who are more sensible and self-confident, and who basically said, "Hey, you know, I kinda like you as more than a friend, and if you ever felt the same way, that would be cool," were told, "Aw, I'm flattered, but I really like us the way we are," replied, "Okay!" and that was that - no strain to the friendship at all. :)
Truly Blessed
03-04-2009, 02:54
I always wondered why women like go shopping through the town for hours. Really, it's pointless and boring, at least to me and to all men I know.

Bring your Nintendo DS I think that is what they were invented for. Amen. What he said.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 02:59
Oh, I didn't mean anything so awful as assault - I just remember one guy in particular who would. not. take. the hint. We had been friends for some time, he asked me out, I said no, he asked me out again, I said no, he asked me out AGAIN, I made it very, very, very explicitly clear that I was never going to date him, and he still kept basically following me around going, "pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease?" That's disrespectful and annoying, and I don't really seek out the company of disrespectful, annoying people. Similarly, I've had two male friends who have at one point declared that they were deeply in love with me, and, understandably, they had some issues being around me for a while after confessing that and having to be gently but firmly shot down. I'm still friends with both of them today, though not as close as I once was with one of them.

At the same time, there have also been male friends who are more sensible and self-confident, and who basically said, "Hey, you know, I kinda like you as more than a friend, and if you ever felt the same way, that would be cool," were told, "Aw, I'm flattered, but I really like us the way we are," replied, "Okay!" and that was that - no strain to the friendship at all. :)

It's not just disrespectful to the other person, it's demeaning to oneself. Why would I want to be with someone who has said "I don't like you that way"? And actually have to beg them to date me?
Truly Blessed
03-04-2009, 03:01
Although I admit, one of the funniest memories I have of my Evil Ex was when he went shoe shopping with me (because he was actually buying the shoes in question so he could take me out swing dancing). He could not comprehend why I couldn't buy any of the shoes in the first store in the mall, and then by the fourth store, produced the following hysterical quote, "Hey, those shoes the salesgirl is wearing are kinda the right sort of thing oh my god I just noticed a woman's shoes YOU'RE TURNING ME INTO A GIRL."

Do women where shoes? Right of course they do....
Truly Blessed
03-04-2009, 03:04
Maximum I've ever spent was about £60 ($80), but I usually spend maximum £30. I just couldn't give a crap about the branding of shoes, as long as it looks passable. None of the shoes I wear atm are recognizable brands, as far as I know.

Here is the killer question though. How long do those shoes last? I still have some lasting well over 3 years. I do not buy more until they wear out.
Poliwanacraca
03-04-2009, 03:08
It's not just disrespectful to the other person, it's demeaning to oneself. Why would I want to be with someone who has said "I don't like you that way"? And actually have to beg them to date me?

Seriously! I mean, honestly, would anyone really be happy with someone who said, "Well, okay, I'm not in the least attracted to you, and you know that perfectly well, but you've followed me around begging so pathetically that I guess I'll take pity on you and go out with you"?

(Just to be clear, there is a BIG difference between that and the guy who keeps trying after you've explained that you're not sure, or not ready, or whatever reason that is fundamentally not "I don't want you at all and I never will." A certain amount of persistence can be quite charming and persuasive. Begging for a pity fuck....not so much.)
Truly Blessed
03-04-2009, 03:14
Okay my next question! You know how straight girls are willing to kiss other straight girls to get the attention of het boys?

What can we do to make this a trend among straight boys, to turn us girls on?

Reminds me of American Pie. Take one for the team. Straight men do not kiss other straight men unless:

1. They are not from North America, some countries this is okay, not mine

2. You are related which doesn't count

3. You have just won the World Series, Superbowl, World Cup, or some other sporting event and it had to be a very close game and this person made the winning goal.
Truly Blessed
03-04-2009, 03:19
Another question...why can't guys ever do the right thing in the eyes of girls? I once dated a girl who would tell me that she was in a bad mood and to leave her alone, so I would. She would then be angry that I didn't care enough to persist. (admittedly, she was a bitch)

Me too. Catch 22. Damned if you do and damned if you don't
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 03:19
Seriously! I mean, honestly, would anyone really be happy with someone who said, "Well, okay, I'm not in the least attracted to you, and you know that perfectly well, but you've followed me around begging so pathetically that I guess I'll take pity on you and go out with you"?

(Just to be clear, there is a BIG difference between that and the guy who keeps trying after you've explained that you're not sure, or not ready, or whatever reason that is fundamentally not "I don't want you at all and I never will." A certain amount of persistence can be quite charming and persuasive. Begging for a pity fuck....not so much.)

Oh, no question that there is a massive difference.
"you have no shot"
"What if I ask nicely this time?"

vs.

"Listen. I like you too, but I really just can't handle a relationship"
"Right on" followed by words of affection such as "G'morning...have a good day" or "g'night babe" without pressure (not "can we date yet? I want to date. Please please please please please"...that moves into the above category quickly)
Truly Blessed
03-04-2009, 03:25
Pair of Jump Boots, hiking boots, Pair slip on loafers, sneakers, gators (rubber sandals), pair of canoe shoes, 2 pairs of dress shoes.

Of these hiking boots, loafers, sneakers, and jump boots are wear most often.
Truly Blessed
03-04-2009, 03:35
I thought my mother in law had it down, with 7 sisters each with an average of 7 kids each with an average of 3 kids......she knows them all. I found her secret last Christmas, behind her calendar on the fridge where the last page is "emergency numbers" she wrote it all down, each year she transfers it all to the new calendar.

I do good to remember my kids and husband's special dates.....seriously. I'm stealing her trick.

Also, after I confronted her I found out she has a shoebox of birthday cards, she just buys them randomly and then pulls one whenever she needs it.

I feel cheated.


That is an awesome idea. I knew there was a system.
Jocabia
03-04-2009, 03:43
First, I'd like to note that there are all sorts of theories out there for the nature v. nurture argument. There are fantastic studies on socially constructed gender roles, there are terrible books like 'Men are from Mars and I'm a Fucking Douchebag"...but what there is not, is consensus. Can we generalise with any degree of accuracy? I doubt it. But I'm going to engage in it anyway.

Why do women talk about their relationships all the time, while men basically remain closed lipped?

Snatfuri made me think of this yesterday when I found myself going, hey, yeah I know what you mean girl and wait...you know if we didn't mention it, our men would probably never say anything to make it obvious...why is that?

I know for myself, I talk about it because it makes me happy, and I tend to be ridiculously open about things anyway. I talk about my kids all the time too. Do women just talk more? (shut the fuck up with the simple 'yes' answer, have you seen the length of posts by posters like GnI, Soheran, Cat-Tribes, Neo Art, etc? Bitch, PLEASE)

So?

No mention? I'm one of the most garrulous posters on this beast and no mention. I know we've had our differences, but that was a low blow. My ankles are bleeding.
Hiphopapotamuss
03-04-2009, 04:13
pc.gamespy.com/dor/objects/611810/leisure-suit-larry-magna-cum-laude/images/leisure-suit-larry-magna-cum-laude-20041007081700337.html

Here's the solution to your mens clothing problem

I'm not sure if they would fit me...:(
Ryadn
03-04-2009, 04:23
Okay my next question! You know how straight girls are willing to kiss other straight girls to get the attention of het boys?

What can we do to make this a trend among straight boys, to turn us girls on?

Wait, wait!

*gets pen and notebook*

Okay, boys, go ahead.
Ryadn
03-04-2009, 04:26
I'm still curious why girls go to the bathroom in packs. I've never gotten a decent answer.

So we know that no one's talking about us while we're gone, or hitting on the guy we're trying to get, or doing other catty girl stuff.

Also, sometimes I get lost. :(
Truly Blessed
03-04-2009, 04:28
I am thinking Heroine because even Gin or Whiskey is not going to make me kiss another guy. Which would be still tough because I don't much care for needles.
Ryadn
03-04-2009, 04:30
I also reject entirely the notion of "friends" not becoming relationships.

I've never dated anyone who wasn't my friend first. How else would I know I wanted to go out with them? I might be able to tell by looking at someone that I want to have sex with him/her, but I can't tell if I want to be in a relationship.
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 04:35
I've never dated anyone who wasn't my friend first. How else would I know I wanted to go out with them? I might be able to tell by looking at someone that I want to have sex with him/her, but I can't tell if I want to be in a relationship.

Sometimes I don't understand this but then I think ways I've dated is strange too. For example my last gf we actually met at a party hosted by mutual friend, now needless to say it didn't work out but that was due to other reasons then not knowing each other first.
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 04:39
So we know that no one's talking about us while we're gone, or hitting on the guy we're trying to get, or doing other catty girl stuff.

Also, sometimes I get lost. :(

Actually, that reminds me. There was one time I wished guys went to the bathroom in packs.

I was at a local bar with about 10 other dudes, drinking to celebrate my friend getting a job. I was very nicely drunk, and had to pee. So I started to make my way around the horseshoe shaped bar, and towards the bathroom. When I was at the peak of the horseshoe, I noticed that a guy was being led out, so I moved out of the way, and then rushed the gap that was formed by his struggles. I get stuck in the crowd again, waiting for people to move a bit, when I notice the girl next to me, rambling on about how this guy had put his hands in her face and she was going to kick his ass. Her female friend said "They kicked him out. Let it go". She turns around, sees me, and decides I was the guy. Yells (or more accuratly, slurs) "you're an asshole" and starts to go on with that, while sticking her finger in my face (literally, touching my face). I told her I was just trying to get to the bathroom, and she grabs my arm. Bad idea. I look at the two guys she's with and say "You really may want to get her the fuck off me". They do, she yells "He's the asshole who grabbed me!", and they shoot me a death glare. I, fairly calmly, say "Dude. I was over there. I'm trying to get to the fucking bathroom. The guy who grabbed her just got dragged out by security". Guy says "Bullshit", and tries to get in my face. Bartender (who happens to know me) sees this, and has them all kicked out. I proceed to pee and order another drink.

Had I been in a pack, I wouldn't have had to worry about a potential drunken bar fight thanks to a chick who can't hold her liquor.
Ryadn
03-04-2009, 04:42
Hmmm. I'll keep that in mind. I know what I'm asking my friends for on my birthday!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/Lastcatastrophe/Boys/boykiss.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/Lastcatastrophe/Boys/boykiss5.jpg
Gauntleted Fist
03-04-2009, 04:51
Actually, that reminds me. There was one time I wished guys went to the bathroom in packs.

I was at a local bar with about 10 other dudes, drinking to celebrate my friend getting a job. I was very nicely drunk, and had to pee. So I started to make my way around the horseshoe shaped bar, and towards the bathroom. When I was at the peak of the horseshoe, I noticed that a guy was being led out, so I moved out of the way, and then rushed the gap that was formed by his struggles. I get stuck in the crowd again, waiting for people to move a bit, when I notice the girl next to me, rambling on about how this guy had put his hands in her face and she was going to kick his ass. Her female friend said "They kicked him out. Let it go". She turns around, sees me, and decides I was the guy. Yells (or more accuratly, slurs) "you're an asshole" and starts to go on with that, while sticking her finger in my face (literally, touching my face). I told her I was just trying to get to the bathroom, and she grabs my arm. Bad idea. I look at the two guys she's with and say "You really may want to get her the fuck off me". They do, she yells "He's the asshole who grabbed me!", and they shoot me a death glare. I, fairly calmly, say "Dude. I was over there. I'm trying to get to the fucking bathroom. The guy who grabbed her just got dragged out by security". Guy says "Bullshit", and tries to get in my face. Bartender (who happens to know me) sees this, and has them all kicked out. I proceed to pee and order another drink.

Had I been in a pack, I wouldn't have had to worry about a potential drunken bar fight thanks to a chick who can't hold her liquor.This forum has helped to assure my sobriety for the past six months, and continues to give me reason to never drink. :p
Sarkhaan
03-04-2009, 04:53
This forum has helped to assure my sobriety for the past six months, and continues to give me reason to never drink. :p

No worries...that was a year ago. I'm sure she stumbled out into traffic or caught some incurable STD since.
Gauntleted Fist
03-04-2009, 04:55
No worries...that was a year ago. I'm sure she stumbled out into traffic or caught some incurable STD since.MOAR reasons to never drink. :D
Hiphopapotamuss
03-04-2009, 05:08
I was bored one day and picked up one of those women's magazines, cosmo or something thinking that I might manage to learn something about the fairer sex. It had an article about the brain cemistry in men vs women. It sounded good at first...until i got the picture showing a woman's brain chemistry as an 8 lane super highway with little traffic vs the congested one lane dirt road that was supposedly the mans.

What I wonder is if there is anyone here that thinks the opposite sex makes more sense
The Parkus Empire
03-04-2009, 05:16
I was bored one day and picked up one of those women's magazines, cosmo or something thinking that I might manage to learn something about the fairer sex. It had an article about the brain cemistry in men vs women. It sounded good at first...until i got the picture showing a woman's brain chemistry as an 8 lane super highway with little traffic vs the congested one lane dirt road that was supposedly the mans.

What I wonder is if there is anyone here that thinks the opposite sex makes more sense

No; that whole concept is doltish and sexist.
Big Jim P
03-04-2009, 05:20
To understand women all you need to do is remember three things:shoes, chocolate, and sparklies. Once you have those three things memorized, women are easy.
The Parkus Empire
03-04-2009, 05:22
To understand women all you need to do is remember three things:shoes, chocolate, and sparklies. Once you have those three things memorized, women are easy.

Then I know more complex women that you do.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 05:28
No mention? I'm one of the most garrulous posters on this beast and no mention. I know we've had our differences, but that was a low blow. My ankles are bleeding.

Bitch, it's like you're not even here anymore!

So I was wandering around in a nostalgic haze, revisiting my time here as Sinuhue, going through my suicide-by-mod period, my revival as Neesika, my acceptance into law school (okay actually I was just totally going through every interaction I had with GoG because he seems to remember shit that I don't and now I'm caught up ha ha!)...

Wow, it's been a crazy what, four, five years? And most of you bitches that were bitches then are still bitches now, and happily present. You actually sprang to mind during that little traipse down memory lane. Did we every have some bang up, shoot-em dead, dance on their corpse fights! I sort of feel like I've gone 'soft' actually. I don't think I rant nearly enough anymore. You, having interacted with me way back in the day, would have a good sense of whether that's true or not. Whatcha think?
Neesika
03-04-2009, 05:31
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/Lastcatastrophe/Boys/boykiss.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/Lastcatastrophe/Boys/boykiss5.jpg

But for the fact that they are ridiculously young, that is hawt.

Also, you are awesome. It's hard to find actual nice kisses instead of pornographic all steroided up waxed-chest guys sucking each other's silicone enhanced lips.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 05:32
To understand women all you need to do is remember three things:shoes, chocolate, and sparklies. Once you have those three things memorized, women are easy.But I don't like chocolate. And sparklies are dumb. Also shoes are meh compared to bras and other bits of fun clothing.
Hiphopapotamuss
03-04-2009, 05:42
No; that whole concept is doltish and sexist.

the reason I ask is I just got out of a rocky relationship with a woman who absolutely hated other women. In her words women are "evil manipulative bitches" She the only person Ive met to take the other side of the argument

oh, and she hated chocolate.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 05:53
the reason I ask is I just got out of a rocky relationship with a woman who absolutely hated other women. In her words women are "evil manipulative bitches" She the only person Ive met to take the other side of the argument

oh, and she hated chocolate.

Uh oh uh oh uh oh here comes the hiphopapotamus, his lyrics are bottomless....

....

...

..

.

Did Steve tell you that?

What kind of rap name is Steve anyway.
Straughn
03-04-2009, 05:56
That's all I've come up with, too.

Once a truck full of guys did that and then got stuck at a red light so long that I caught up to them again. They were all sitting still and staring straight ahead, looking somewhat uncomfortable.This reminds me of that old quote along the lines of,
Men chase women they have no intention of marrying for pretty much the same reason dogs chase cars they have no intention of driving.
Straughn
03-04-2009, 05:58
No worries...that was a year ago. I'm sure she stumbled out into traffic or caught some incurable STD since.At the drive-through?
Poliwanacraca
03-04-2009, 06:17
Uh oh uh oh uh oh here comes the hiphopapotamus, his lyrics are bottomless....

....

...

..

.

Did Steve tell you that?

What kind of rap name is Steve anyway.

My records and rhymes they don't get played
Because my records and rhymes they don't get made
And if you rhyme like me you won't get paid
And if you roll like me you won't get laid!
The Parkus Empire
03-04-2009, 06:18
the reason I ask is I just got out of a rocky relationship with a woman who absolutely hated other women. In her words women are "evil manipulative bitches" She the only person Ive met to take the other side of the argument

Everyone is evil and manipulative.

oh, and she hated chocolate.

Chocolate is tasteful when taken with espresso.
Naturality
03-04-2009, 06:19
Uh oh uh oh uh oh here comes the hiphopapotamus, his lyrics are bottomless....

....

...

..

.

Did Steve tell you that?

What kind of rap name is Steve anyway.

hahah he should totally sig that :tongue:
Gauntleted Fist
03-04-2009, 06:20
Everyone is evil and manipulative.Everyone, except that guy in the corner.

No, not you, that other guy, yeah, you, raise your hand! No, not you, him!
The Parkus Empire
03-04-2009, 06:21
Everyone, except that guy in the corner.

No, not you, that other guy, yeah, you, raise your hand! No, not you, him!

http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c?q=510cf4bf96cf149d_landing
Gauntleted Fist
03-04-2009, 06:29
*Hitler snip*http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a192/a192_thumb.jpg
Straughn
03-04-2009, 06:38
http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a192/a192_thumb.jpgIsn't this on TAI's siglist?
Gauntleted Fist
03-04-2009, 06:47
Isn't this on TAI's siglist?I have no idea.

Got it from somewhere else.
Ryadn
03-04-2009, 06:55
But for the fact that they are ridiculously young, that is hawt.

Also, you are awesome. It's hard to find actual nice kisses instead of pornographic all steroided up waxed-chest guys sucking each other's silicone enhanced lips.

Oh, they're... probably 18, at least. Maybe even 20 if you squint...

Hmmmm. I was going to link you to some good non-steroided, non-silicone-enhanced boysex, but the looking-19-ish thing would maybe squick you out.
Straughn
03-04-2009, 06:57
I have no idea.

Got it from somewhere else.
Well, it'll probably end up there.
The Atlantian islands
03-04-2009, 06:59
Well, it'll probably end up there.
I must have misunderstood, because there is no logical reason for you to have just called me a Hitler supporter . . .
Straughn
03-04-2009, 07:02
I must have misunderstood, because there is no logical reason for you to have just called me a Hitler supporter . . .Oh, i didn't. I made reference somewhat as a sub to your post there about "What luck ..." in your sig.
Adolf Hitler--"What luck for Rulers that Men do not think."
Heinleinites
03-04-2009, 07:02
Why do men in cars cat-call and shout invitations to sex at women walking down the street? Has this ever resulted in them getting laid? Even if it worked, they drive off too fast for you to accept!

I don't yell stuff from cars, but I've been known to wolf-whistle at a chick or two from time to time on the street. I can't speak for anyone else, but I do it because I find it entertaining. And no, I've never gotten anything out of it but a slighty higher proportion of dirty looks to embarrassed smiles.

Okay, here's something I want to know. Is it true that guys don't want women to pursue them? That it ruins the 'chase' for them?

I don't mind if chicks do the pursuing, personally. It makes for a nice change of pace. Plus, in my experience, if a chick has enough self-confidence to do the chasing, it's less likely that she's a high-maintenance basket case.

Here's a question...do men actually think about what they wear? I mean...women are VERY aware of what they're putting on, what shows off their ass best, etc.

I think about it to the extent of 'what's going to be the most practical/functional for what I'm going to be doing, and that's about it.
The Parkus Empire
03-04-2009, 07:05
I must have misunderstood, because there is no logical reason for you to have just called me a Hitler supporter . . .

If Hitler was in power during the Cold War (this is impossible, because he partially caused the the Cold War, but you get the idea) I have not doubt you would support him--probably because he brought law, order, and a stable economy.
The Parkus Empire
03-04-2009, 07:06
Oh, i didn't. I made reference somewhat as a sub to your post there about "What luck ..." in your sig.

I quote Stalin often; that does not mean I support him.
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 07:07
I am thinking Heroine because even Gin or Whiskey is not going to make me kiss another guy. Which would be still tough because I don't much care for needles.

This is like the third time you've spontaneously volunteered how much you desperately DON'T want to kiss another guy...

Is there something we should know?
Straughn
03-04-2009, 07:10
I quote Stalin often; that does not mean I support either him.Tis okay, since i didn't imply anywhere that you support him either.
I just posted a picture of Palin winking on a post on another thread ...
The Parkus Empire
03-04-2009, 07:12
Tis okay, since i didn't imply anywhere that you support him either.
I just posted a picture of Palin winking on a post on another thread ...

:eek:
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 07:14
Uh oh uh oh uh oh here comes the hiphopapotamus, his lyrics are bottomless....

....

...

..

.

Did Steve tell you that?

What kind of rap name is Steve anyway.

A fucking awesome rap name.

Rhyme-nocerous kudos all round.
Straughn
03-04-2009, 07:15
:eek:
Now now, of all the pus-ridden, drippy, blood-encrusted stigma for a poster like me to carry around ...

... that's one of the worst admittedly, but hey, it's self-inflicted.
The Parkus Empire
03-04-2009, 07:15
Now now, of all the pus-ridden, drippy, blood-encrusted stigma for a poster like me to carry around ...

... that's one of the worst admittedly, but hey, it's self-inflicted.

http://www.trendhunter.com/images/phpthumbnails/23808_2_468.jpeg
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 07:18
http://www.trendhunter.com/images/phpthumbnails/23808_2_468.jpeg

*dies*
Straughn
03-04-2009, 07:21
http://www.trendhunter.com/images/phpthumbnails/23808_2_468.jpeg
*dies*
Yeah, i saw that one, and i raise you this:
http://www.usmagazine.com/files/palin-miss-alaska-b.jpg
That's from her Linda Ronstadt-on-rollerskates days.
Why do i do this to myself? WHY?
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 07:23
Yeah, i saw that one, and i raise you this:
http://www.usmagazine.com/files/palin-miss-alaska-b.jpg
That's from her Linda Ronstadt-on-rollerskates days.
Why do i do this to myself? WHY?

Jeez, look at the eyes. That's from her Linda Ronstadt-on-SPEED days.

Did anyone else notice that, the same day Palin got picked as VP pick, all the stuff about her having smoked pot disappeared from wiki?
The Parkus Empire
03-04-2009, 07:27
Yeah, i saw that one, and i raise you this:
http://www.usmagazine.com/files/palin-miss-alaska-b.jpg
That's from her Linda Ronstadt-on-rollerskates days.
Why do i do this to myself? WHY?

http://guanabee.com/SarahPalinBikini_Rifle.jpg:D
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 07:28
http://z.about.com/d/urbanlegends/1/0/M/y/palin_rifle_bikini.jpg:D

I think my outie just became an innie.
Heinleinites
03-04-2009, 07:29
Question for the guys. Do you really not like a woman spending time on the parts of your body that aren't your penis?

Depends. If she's scratching my back or rubbing my neck/shoulders, then yes. If she's complaining about my haircut or that I need to trim my beard, then no.

K, guys squeezing my ass, HUGE pet peeve of mine, FUCK. I don't know why they think they're going to get away with it.

Yeah, I'll whistle, but grabbing is completely out-of-bounds and classless.

I'm surprised we haven't been asked the age old Argument - "Why do Men prefer threesomes with another Woman rather than another Man"

Because a guy-guy-girl threesome is just two dudes having sex with each other by proxy. I'm not generally a fan of threesomes in general, I'm more a one woman kind of guy.

As for guys kissing other guys, the only time that's acceptable is if you're Michael Corleone and you're having to let your brother know that you're having him killed, even though it breaks your heart.
Straughn
03-04-2009, 07:29
Did anyone else notice that, the same day Palin got picked as VP pick, all the stuff about her having smoked pot disappeared from wiki?Yeah, but it didn't appear to make any differences, given her clever speeches and interviews. Seemed pretty obvious that some part of her is still in the aether.
Straughn
03-04-2009, 07:30
http://guanabee.com/SarahPalinBikini_Rifle.jpg:D
Yup, that one's on the official Alaska State Mudflaps.
Straughn
03-04-2009, 07:31
I think my outie just became an innie.Hernia-be-gone!
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 07:50
*snip*

Bugger off, ya prick :)

My eyes are sensitive wenough without you posting crap likethis up. Now to get beckon topic.

Why can't women read maps properly?
Heinleinites
03-04-2009, 07:54
http://guanabee.com/SarahPalinBikini_Rifle.jpg

I don't know, I think that's kind of hot. Attractive women and firearms, what's not to like?
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 07:56
But for the fact that they are ridiculously young, that is hawt.

Also, you are awesome. It's hard to find actual nice kisses instead of pornographic all steroided up waxed-chest guys sucking each other's silicone enhanced lips.

Prude :p

But seriously they aren't that young about 18-19.
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 07:57
I don't know, I think that's kind of hot. Attractive women and firearms, what's not to like?

Nothing at all except that pic doesn't have an attractive woman in it.
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 08:00
I don't know, I think that's kind of hot. Attractive women and firearms, what's not to like?

In that particular shot? The women. And the firearms aren't exactly causing me to throb.
Heinleinites
03-04-2009, 08:14
Nothing at all except that pic doesn't have an attractive woman in it.

De gustibus non disputandum, eh? I think she's attractive, anyways.
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 08:20
De gustibus non disputandum, eh? I think she's attractive, anyways.

It's like a cake. You could argue about whether or not the cake looks nice - it might appeal to some tastes, it might not appeal to others. That's a debate that could go on and on.

On the other hand, when you know that there's nothing under the frosting but shit and rat-poison... well, it doesn't matter how pretty the swirls and sprinkles are.
Cameroi
03-04-2009, 08:29
It's like a cake. You could argue about whether or not the cake looks nice - it might appeal to some tastes, it might not appeal to others. That's a debate that could go on and on.

On the other hand, when you know that there's nothing under the frosting but shit and rat-poison... well, it doesn't matter how pretty the swirls and sprinkles are.

sure it does, as long as all you have to do is look.

of course it there's a nonvoluntary physical reaction to visual stimulus, that's another matter.
SaintB
03-04-2009, 08:37
Why do men always ask "Why do women..." and women ask "Why do men..." and then say the same thing?

Example 1: Why do men just suddenly stop calling me?
Example 2: Why do women just suddenly stop calling me?
Risottia
03-04-2009, 10:23
Which is why we tend to take our female friends along, so you don't ruin it for us!


Do you? Sometimes my fiancee asks me to go shopping with her and her friends. I suspect it's mostly to hold their bags and shoppers when they've become too heavy.

These, generally, are the moments when I close my sensory organs, answer only "uh-uh", and start thinking about integrals and self-adjont unbound operators. It's my variant of the buddhist "aum".
Ferrous Oxide
03-04-2009, 11:26
Hey girls, tell me, does it mean anything when a girl says "yes" when you ask her out, despite never actually asking her out?

'Cause a few days ago I had a chat with a (female) friend online, a normal pleasant conversation, and then a few hours later a mutual friend comes online and says "Hey, [that girl] said you asked her out and made plans to go to some place. That should be fun", and I'm sitting there flabbergasted.
Sdaeriji
03-04-2009, 11:35
De gustibus non disputandum, eh? I think she's attractive, anyways.

It's not really her, anyways.
Domici
03-04-2009, 11:41
I don't think it has to be about both men and women...like if you're just curious about one thing that men supposedly do or visa versa.

Yeah, what's with the women drive terribly stereotype? The insurance industry certainly doesn't seem to think that's the case, since the ones paying the highest premiums are men, of any age.

The insurance industry thinks they drive more safely.

Men tend to be better drivers, but they are also more aggressive. When they cause accidents they tend to be big ones.

I've been in 3 accidents since getting my license. They were all minor bumps which caused no, or minimal, damage when a woman misjudged the distance and speed and rear-ended me while I was stopped at a red light. Only one of those was reported to the insurance companies.

Most married couples will tell you the same thing about the two of them in a car together. She says he follows other cars too closely, he changes lanes too much, he drives to fast, and he doesn't stop in time. He says he stops before he hits the car in front, that's 'in time,' they get where they're going on time, and the biggest threat to their safety is her slamming her hand on the passenger side window and gasping every minute or two.

Well, maybe not most. Maybe just me and old Richard Jeni CD's.

But who's the better juggler? Someone who can juggle 10 bowling pins for an hour but sometimes drops them all over the floor, or someone who can juggle two balls, but frequently must hastily clutch both of them to his chest to keep from dropping them?
Domici
03-04-2009, 11:47
Why do men in cars cat-call and shout invitations to sex at women walking down the street? Has this ever resulted in them getting laid? Even if it worked, they drive off too fast for you to accept!

Because it's not about you. They're showing off for each other. It's sort of an outward-displayed pep-talk for the rest of their evening.

Pretty much how when women get all dressed up they're not really hoping to see appreciative looks from the men. They're hoping to see envious looks from the other women.
Domici
03-04-2009, 12:04
I was bored one day and picked up one of those women's magazines, cosmo or something thinking that I might manage to learn something about the fairer sex. It had an article about the brain cemistry in men vs women. It sounded good at first...until i got the picture showing a woman's brain chemistry as an 8 lane super highway with little traffic vs the congested one lane dirt road that was supposedly the mans.

What I wonder is if there is anyone here that thinks the opposite sex makes more sense

The 8 lane superhighway may seem like an enviable quality until you realize it's all four-leaf-clovers and roundabouts. Yes, they can process more information and think about more subjects at once, but that doesn't mean they can do them better (or worse.)

A lot of men get bewildered when arguments with women seem to be covering multiple subjects at the same time. It isn't just that they can't keep up however. The woman in the argument frequently confuses and conflates the various things she's talking about. In other words, when a guy thinks that his girlfriend isn't making any sense, sometimes she really isn't.

Once upon a time when my wife and I would argue she would yell for 5 minutes, then stop, stare at me, and demand, "well..."

I could only shrug and reply "I was supposed to be listening to that?"

Then I started taking notes. I would write down the many things she had been talking about, then I would address each of them in turn. When she'd interrupt with "but what about..." I could tell her confidently "I'm getting to that."

Usually when I finish with the list she says something like, "you just have a reason for everything, don't you?" Then I place my hands gently on her shoulders, look her in the eye, and with all the contrition I can fit into my tone I say, "I'm sorry. I know it isn't really fair to do things for sensible reasons and not give you any justification for being mad at me. I can see how that would be really frustrating."

Then she stomps, says something to the effect of "arrgghhh!" and storms out of the room.
Gift-of-god
03-04-2009, 14:01
I must have misunderstood, because there is no logical reason for you to have just called me a Hitler supporter . . .

He did put communists in concentration camps. Considering that you have supported other political leaders for doing that, one could logically assume that you would also champion Hitler's efforts in this regard.

Hey girls, tell me, does it mean anything when a girl says "yes" when you ask her out, despite never actually asking her out?

'Cause a few days ago I had a chat with a (female) friend online, a normal pleasant conversation, and then a few hours later a mutual friend comes online and says "Hey, [that girl] said you asked her out and made plans to go to some place. That should be fun", and I'm sitting there flabbergasted.

It means that the woman in question got asked out by someone else and told him that she was already busy with you. This then proceeds through the gossip vine to get back to you. Depending on what you want out of the situation, react accordingly.
Ferrous Oxide
03-04-2009, 14:17
It means that the woman in question got asked out by someone else and told him that she was already busy with you. This then proceeds through the gossip vine to get back to you. Depending on what you want out of the situation, react accordingly.

There isn't a gossip vine, per se; it would have gone from her, to him, to me. So, that wasn't quite how I interpreted it.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 15:56
A fucking awesome rap name.

Rhyme-nocerous kudos all round.

They call me the rhymenocerous, not because I'm fat, not because I've got birds on my back, because I'm horny, I'm horny!

Ok here's a related question...do people with an excellent sense of humour turn you on? Honestly, Bret and Jemaine are fairly average looking guys, though Jemaine has those lips...mmm...I have such a thing for lips like that...anyway. Average looking dudes. But so damn freaking funny they become uber smoking hawt.

So, can a trait like that make someone irresistible to you/
Neesika
03-04-2009, 15:58
Yeah, i saw that one, and i raise you this:
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That's from her Linda Ronstadt-on-rollerskates days.
Why do i do this to myself? WHY?

Jeez, look at the eyes. That's from her Linda Ronstadt-on-SPEED days.

Did anyone else notice that, the same day Palin got picked as VP pick, all the stuff about her having smoked pot disappeared from wiki?

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I think my outie just became an innie.

If you fuckers get my thread locked for freaking spamming...I will kill you. There is more than enough breadth available to tie in your back and forth to the motherfucking topic!

As in...why do women gravitate towards men in power, but men seem to be afraid of women in power?
Neesika
03-04-2009, 16:00
As for guys kissing other guys, the only time that's acceptable is if you're Michael Corleone and you're having to let your brother know that you're having him killed, even though it breaks your heart.
lol

I love giving people that kiss. And cuz I'm short like Pacino, it works on many levels :D
Neesika
03-04-2009, 16:01
Why can't women read maps properly?

Isn't the stereotype that men can't read maps properly, then refuse to ask for directions, and end up wandering around like douchebags without a nozzle for hours, viciously rejecting the help of the woman being forced to endure the situation?
Reprocycle
03-04-2009, 16:03
As in...why do women gravitate towards men in power, but men seem to be afraid of women in power?

The submissive in me would disagree :p
Neesika
03-04-2009, 16:05
Because it's not about you. They're showing off for each other. It's sort of an outward-displayed pep-talk for the rest of their evening.

Pretty much how when women get all dressed up they're not really hoping to see appreciative looks from the men. They're hoping to see envious looks from the other women.
This is absolutely true, and I just wanted to highlight it in case any guys were confused.

Having guys ogle you is no big feat. Having women glare at you because you're fucking hot is a major ego boost.
Hiphopapotamuss
03-04-2009, 16:06
Uh oh uh oh uh oh here comes the hiphopapotamus, his lyrics are bottomless....

....

...

..

.

Did Steve tell you that?

What kind of rap name is Steve anyway.

I might have to sig that, thats pretty slick, I got a sig in 3 posts.

Who is steve?
To understand women all you need to do is remember three things:shoes, chocolate, and sparklies. Once you have those three things memorized, women are easy.

I always forget the sparklies

Domici - you actually took notes? I'll have to try that, if anything it will be entertaining, my problem is that at some point in the so called conversation everything she says becomes the wah wahh wah from the carlie brown cartoons. I actually fell asleep on this last girl once.

Neesika - why do you see fat (or should I say phat) guys with really good looking women, its all attitude.


and I really think that women do like assholes, had a girl I was trying to get rid of so I stopped being nice to her thinking she'd get the hint. It made her like me more.
Sdaeriji
03-04-2009, 16:23
Isn't the stereotype that men can't read maps properly, then refuse to ask for directions, and end up wandering around like douchebags without a nozzle for hours, viciously rejecting the help of the woman being forced to endure the situation?

No. The stereotype is that women can't read maps properly, and that men don't even bother using maps.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 16:25
No. The stereotype is that women can't read maps properly, and that men don't even bother using maps.
Ah. So doomed to wander the world aimlessly.
Poliwanacraca
03-04-2009, 16:38
They call me the rhymenocerous, not because I'm fat, not because I've got birds on my back, because I'm horny, I'm horny!

Ok here's a related question...do people with an excellent sense of humour turn you on? Honestly, Bret and Jemaine are fairly average looking guys, though Jemaine has those lips...mmm...I have such a thing for lips like that...anyway. Average looking dudes. But so damn freaking funny they become uber smoking hawt.

So, can a trait like that make someone irresistible to you/

Absolutely. Being smart and funny is super sexy. (And you can have Jemaine is you'll leave Bret for me....mmm....) ;)
Ferrous Oxide
03-04-2009, 16:50
Now that a few of the women are back online, I'll ask my question again:

Why would a girl deliberately make up that I asked her out, and then pass that info onto a friend of mine who she'd know would talk to me?
Neesika
03-04-2009, 17:08
Absolutely. Being smart and funny is super sexy. (And you can have Jemaine is you'll leave Bret for me....mmm....) ;)
I only like Bret when he's got the facial hair. So you keep him shaved and I promise I won't jump him in between devouring Jemaine's....plump lips.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 17:10
Now that a few of the women are back online, I'll ask my question again:

Why would a girl deliberately make up that I asked her out, and then pass that info onto a friend of mine who she'd know would talk to me?

Because she actually thinks you've asked her out. It would be deadly embarrasing to lie about something like that to a person you know talks to the person you're lying about. So either she's deadly stupid and didn't think about that and is lying (in which case, ewwww anyway), or she really somehow thought you asked her out.

So if she's making plans, just wait until you find out what they are. In the end, it won't really matter who asked who.
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 17:15
De gustibus non disputandum, eh? I think she's attractive, anyways.

Yeah man never took latin. But hey each to their own.
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 17:19
Isn't the stereotype that men can't read maps properly, then refuse to ask for directions, and end up wandering around like douchebags without a nozzle for hours, viciously rejecting the help of the woman being forced to endure the situation?

I thought it was women can't readmaps properly which is why they tend to have to turn them upside down to face the direction they are going etc.

Men are unlikey to look at a map and just go where they think they should and then then refuse to ask for directions, and end up wandering around like douchebags without a nozzle for hours, viciously rejecting the help of the woman being forced to endure the situation
Jocabia
03-04-2009, 17:25
Bitch, it's like you're not even here anymore!

So I was wandering around in a nostalgic haze, revisiting my time here as Sinuhue, going through my suicide-by-mod period, my revival as Neesika, my acceptance into law school (okay actually I was just totally going through every interaction I had with GoG because he seems to remember shit that I don't and now I'm caught up ha ha!)...

Wow, it's been a crazy what, four, five years? And most of you bitches that were bitches then are still bitches now, and happily present. You actually sprang to mind during that little traipse down memory lane. Did we every have some bang up, shoot-em dead, dance on their corpse fights! I sort of feel like I've gone 'soft' actually. I don't think I rant nearly enough anymore. You, having interacted with me way back in the day, would have a good sense of whether that's true or not. Whatcha think?

Don't worry. Everyone still thinks you're a bitch. Your reputation is safe.
Rambhutan
03-04-2009, 17:33
They call me the rhymenocerous..

R to the H to the Y to the...oh forget it
Ferrous Oxide
03-04-2009, 17:46
Because she actually thinks you've asked her out. It would be deadly embarrasing to lie about something like that to a person you know talks to the person you're lying about. So either she's deadly stupid and didn't think about that and is lying (in which case, ewwww anyway), or she really somehow thought you asked her out.

So if she's making plans, just wait until you find out what they are. In the end, it won't really matter who asked who.

She doesn't think I asked her out, because I absolutely did not say anything of the sort. I even went through the IM logs to be sure. Furthermore, they were pretty specific plans.

She's definitely not stupid though, she's incredibly bright.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 17:48
Don't worry. Everyone still thinks you're a bitch. Your reputation is safe.Whew! Thanks! That means a lot, coming from you.

She doesn't think I asked her out, because I absolutely did not say anything of the sort. I even went through the IM logs to be sure. Furthermore, they were pretty specific plans.

She's definitely not stupid though, she's incredibly bright.

Then accept that she's asked YOU out, in a way that makes it look like you made the first move.
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 17:50
She doesn't think I asked her out, because I absolutely did not say anything of the sort. I even went through the IM logs to be sure. Furthermore, they were pretty specific plans.

She's definitely not stupid though, she's incredibly bright.

Just go out with her man, what harm can it do?
Ferrous Oxide
03-04-2009, 17:53
Then accept that she's asked YOU out, in a way that makes it look like you made the first move.

Just go out with her man, what harm can it do?

I have no problem with it, and yeah, I'll go out with her, but who seriously does that? What kind of person has the confidence to make up the lie and hope that I'll accept it, but not the confidence to ask me out to my face?
TJHairball
03-04-2009, 17:53
She doesn't think I asked her out, because I absolutely did not say anything of the sort. I even went through the IM logs to be sure. Furthermore, they were pretty specific plans.

She's definitely not stupid though, she's incredibly bright.
One might ask "Are we still on for X, Y, and Z?" completely nonchalantly without mentioning the third and fourth parties.
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 17:55
I have no problem with it, and yeah, I'll go out with her, but who seriously does that? What kind of person has the confidence to make up the lie and hope that I'll accept it, but not the confidence to ask me out to my face?

Were you talking to he about seeing her or making plans? Maybe your friend did't understand what she said
Ferrous Oxide
03-04-2009, 17:56
One might ask "Are we still on for X, Y, and Z?" completely nonchalantly without mentioning the third and fourth parties.

... Wha?
Ferrous Oxide
03-04-2009, 17:57
Were you talking to he about seeing her or making plans? Maybe your friend did't understand what she said

No, I wasn't, and besides, it was a very specific plan. It was "I'm taking her to this specific event", something I would explicitly remember saying.
Sdaeriji
03-04-2009, 18:12
Maybe the other dude creeps her out, and she didn't want to go out with him, so she made up a story about how you beat him to the punch. Maybe, instead of asking us, you should be asking her what's going on, yeah?
TJHairball
03-04-2009, 18:14
Maybe the other dude creeps her out, and she didn't want to go out with him, so she made up a story about how you beat him to the punch. Maybe, instead of asking us, you should be asking her what's going on, yeah?
Alternative explanation: She is obsessed with you and the delusional stage is beginning.

Of course, it could be the third party that's making things up.
Blouman Empire
03-04-2009, 18:15
No, I wasn't, and besides, it was a very specific plan. It was "I'm taking her to this specific event", something I would explicitly remember saying.

Yeah I don't know dude.

What are you doing on at this timeof the night anyway?

Maybe the other dude creeps her out, and she didn't want to go out with him, so she made up a story about how you beat him to the punch. Maybe, instead of asking us, you should be asking her what's going on, yeah?

No because that would give to much away and he might want to go out with her an by asking her WTF? it might make her think well he doesn't want to be with me so I'll go with someone else.

Anyway he can't ask her now she is either pissed or asleep which I in a few short moments am going to be both, I need to get up in 4 hours I better get some sleep and sober up
Ferrous Oxide
03-04-2009, 18:18
What are you doing on at this timeof the night anyway?

Internal clock is whacked out, and there's no point in fixing it because I'm going overseas soon.

Maybe the other dude creeps her out, and she didn't want to go out with him, so she made up a story about how you beat him to the punch. Maybe, instead of asking us, you should be asking her what's going on, yeah?

I kinda did. She sidestepped the whole "When did I say anything like that?" part, and went straight onto what we were going to do.
TJHairball
03-04-2009, 18:58
Internal clock is whacked out, and there's no point in fixing it because I'm going overseas soon.



I kinda did. She sidestepped the whole "When did I say anything like that?" part, and went straight onto what we were going to do.
Oh, well, if you've talked to her and she is maintaining this scheduling of the two of you going at, that's entirely different.
Hiphopapotamuss
03-04-2009, 20:43
Anyone care to take bets as to how long this thread will last until it turns into this? (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY7Hh5PzELo)

I have a couple, why do men seem to turn everything into a pissing contest, is it some kind of alpha male syndrome or just a testosterone thing. Are all or most men like that or is it just the imbeciles in my hometown.

And..
*digs a trench*
how can a woman bleed for 7 days and not die? does this make them members of the undead?
*takes cover in trench*

No, I wasn't, and besides, it was a very specific plan. It was "I'm taking her to this specific event", something I would explicitly remember saying.

oh I think I know what it is. Your technically taking her out so either she or the other guy is looking at it like it is a date.
Ferrous Oxide
03-04-2009, 20:45
oh I think I know what it is. Your technically taking her out so either she or the other guy is looking at it like it is a date.

Wut?
Hiphopapotamuss
03-04-2009, 21:04
Wut?

Some people are funny, they'll read into things way farther than they should. your planning to go out and do something together so some people will look at that and call it a date whether it is romantic or not. regardless i would make sure of your standing before going, you could have something there if you wanted it.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 21:43
So, do women care less about the term "USian" than men?
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 22:09
I only like Bret when he's got the facial hair. So you keep him shaved and I promise I won't jump him in between devouring Jemaine's....plump lips.

Bret.... he's got it goin' on.
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 22:11
Don't worry. Everyone still thinks you're a bitch. Your reputation is safe.

I don't. I think she's really, really nice. Like - 'shopgirl helping you pick out presents' nice. I thnk she's ubersweet. And... dainty. She's like a delicate little flower. Fragile. Aaah.
Neesika
03-04-2009, 22:13
I don't. I think she's really, really nice. Like - 'shopgirl helping you pick out presents' nice. I thnk she's ubersweet. And... dainty. She's like a delicate little flower. Fragile. Aaah.

*files fingernails to a point. Teeth too, just in case*
Trve
03-04-2009, 22:14
So, do women care less about the term "USian" than men?

I chuckled.
Johnny B Goode
03-04-2009, 22:29
Why would you aspire to such a thing?

I don't, but I don't see anything better in my future.
Grave_n_idle
03-04-2009, 22:47
*files fingernails to a point. Teeth too, just in case*

See? Sitting there playing with your nails? You're like NS's mascot of stereotypical femininity.
Ring of Isengard
03-04-2009, 22:59
See? Sitting there playing with your nails? You're like NS's mascot of stereotypical femininity.

I lol'd.
Neesika
04-04-2009, 00:25
See? Sitting there playing with your nails? You're like NS's mascot of stereotypical femininity.

I do really appreciate people like you who understand how fun it is for me to get angry. I'd appreciate you even more if you did it in person! Please arrange for health insurance.
Grave_n_idle
04-04-2009, 00:45
I do really appreciate people like you who understand how fun it is for me to get angry. I'd appreciate you even more if you did it in person! Please arrange for health insurance.

Ah, so cute! I bet you stamped your foot, too. :)

Of course, if you meant it, it'd mean I was so so wrong about you, and you weren't nearly as far down the slope as you'd feared.

Tis puzzlement.
Neesika
04-04-2009, 00:51
Ah, so cute! I bet you stamped your foot, too. :)

Of course, if you meant it, it'd mean I was so so wrong about you, and you weren't nearly as far down the slope as you'd feared.

Tis puzzlement.

I waved my tiny little fists in the air in impotent rage as well!

I really do wish though that more men would consent to me kicking their asses. *sigh* Fucking pussies and your low tolerance for pain.
Neesika
04-04-2009, 00:52
Oh! A question! Why do men avoid going to the doctor? It's so freaking annoying.
Galloism
04-04-2009, 01:03
Oh! A question! Why do men avoid going to the doctor? It's so freaking annoying.

We don't like spending money unless it's necessary. Most sicknesses go away with tomato soup and OJ.
Grave_n_idle
04-04-2009, 01:05
I waved my tiny little fists in the air in impotent rage as well!

I really do wish though that more men would consent to me kicking their asses. *sigh* Fucking pussies and your low tolerance for pain.

What was it you said, earlier.... "bitch, please", right?

Bring it on.

:D

I'm not sure I buy into the whole 'tolerance of pain' thing. I know I wouldn't want to give birth, because - let's face it - it does look uncomfortable... but I don't think that's an intolerance of pain, it's just avoidance. (and, in that particular case, an avoidance that will be fairly easy to achieve).
Grave_n_idle
04-04-2009, 01:06
Oh! A question! Why do men avoid going to the doctor? It's so freaking annoying.

I tend not to go to the doctor unless I need to - but it's my wife that needs to be practiclly kidnapped and delivered to the office in a sack.
Neesika
04-04-2009, 01:11
We don't like spending money unless it's necessary. Most sicknesses go away with tomato soup and OJ.
We have free healthcare here, and men still have the same problem. Perhaps this is an older generation thing...people in my dad's generation are notorious for this. It's stupid.

I tend not to go to the doctor unless I need to - but it's my wife that needs to be practiclly kidnapped and delivered to the office in a sack.

I go when I need to...my ex didn't go when he needed to. It was stupid.