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Yes women are truly hard to understand.

Oh, I see.

*pretends to not know*

Oh Gallo, you are one with Dark Side aren't you. Please don't force choke me!

Good. Now, lets turn around and pretend he's not there. It makes him feel all powerful and such.

I get no respect at all.

I get no respect at all.

That's not true.:fluffle:

I get no respect at all.

*gives you a kitten to take care of*

He'll respect you as long as you feed and play with him, and clean his litter box. :p

*gives you a kitten to take care of*

He'll respect you as long as you feed and play with him, and clean his litter box. :p

Nothing like cleaning up cat shit to increase your self-esteem.

*gives you a kitten to take care of*

He'll respect you as long as you feed and play with him, and clean his litter box. :p

ou know, my cat learned from the dogs to go do it outside... I haven't had to clean the litter box in months.

Amazing, the thread actually manged to get somewhat back on track. ;)

Related question though, for those of us in an international/racial/cultural relationship. I find that because my wife and I come from two different worlds that I literally cannot take ANYTHING for granted when it comes to understanding each other. Our childhoods and early adult lives have just been way too different, even though we both have lived in each others' country and have a good understanding of the culture. This keeps me listening closely to her in case I miss something or the both of us make a mistake. Would you say it's the same in your relationship?

Nothing like cleaning up cat shit to increase your self-esteem.

But the love and companionship is worth it in the end!

Amazing, the thread actually manged to get somewhat back on track. ;)

Related question though, for those of us in an international/racial/cultural relationship. I find that because my wife and I come from two different worlds that I literally cannot take ANYTHING for granted when it comes to understanding each other. Our childhoods and early adult lives have just been way too different, even though we both have lived in each others' country and have a good understanding of the culture. This keeps me listening closely to her in case I miss something or the both of us make a mistake. Would you say it's the same in your relationship?

It is, to a certain extent. But he's more qualified to speak than I am.

Amazing, the thread actually manged to get somewhat back on track. ;)

Related question though, for those of us in an international/racial/cultural relationship. I find that because my wife and I come from two different worlds that I literally cannot take ANYTHING for granted when it comes to understanding each other. Our childhoods and early adult lives have just been way too different, even though we both have lived in each others' country and have a good understanding of the culture. This keeps me listening closely to her in case I miss something or the both of us make a mistake. Would you say it's the same in your relationship?

Ehh... well I don't have one.

Oh I saw the disclaimer, for people in multicultural ones.

It is completely impossible to understand women. Consider the following:

According to prominent neurophysiologists, women have 11 lobes in their brain, only 5 of which are connected to one another.

Scientists have discovered that women randomly change blood types, at random intervals. Mathematicians have confirmed this is the only categorically random effect in nature.

Women always think they look too fat, or too skinny, or that they look the correct weight. They are always wrong.

Women earn 74 cents on the dollar to a man for the same work. This is because they are lazy.

Despite making the majority of consumer purchase decisions, women were not able to prevent the economic collapse. This is because they make bad decisions.

The ability to be understood is contained in genetic information on the Y chromosome. Many women do not have this chromosome.

All of the misunderstood people in history have been women. For example, Lileth, Hypatia, Emmy Noether, Hitler, and Ann Coulter.

Neo Arts girlfriend has been trying to break up with him for 3 years. He just can't understand what she's saying, because she went to Brown.

Thus, women are enigmas that can't be understood, QED.

It is completely impossible to understand women. Consider the following:

According to prominent neurophysiologists, women have 11 lobes in their brain, only 5 of which are connected to one another.

Scientists have discovered that women randomly change blood types, at random intervals. Mathematicians have confirmed this is the only categorically random effect in nature.

Women always think they look too fat, or too skinny, or that they look the correct weight. They are always wrong.

Women earn 74 cents on the dollar to a man for the same work. This is because they are lazy.

Despite making the majority of consumer purchase decisions, women were not able to prevent the economic collapse. This is because they make bad decisions.

The ability to be understood is contained in genetic information on the Y chromosome. Many women do not have this chromosome.

All of the misunderstood people in history have been women. For example, Lileth, Hypatia, Emmy Noether, Hitler, and Ann Coulter.

Neo Arts girlfriend has been trying to break up with him for 3 years. He just can't understand what she's saying, because she went to Brown.

Thus, women are enigmas that can't be understood, QED.

Nonsense; through your post you have demonstrated easily understandable facts about women, therefore they can be understood, and are not enigmas. QED right back atcha.

Nonsense; through your post you have demonstrated easily understandable facts about women, therefore they can be understood, and are not enigmas. QED right back atcha.

But since I did not understand that they are easily understandable, the understandability of women's understanding is understated. Meta-QED.

It is completely impossible to understand women. Consider the following:

According to prominent neurophysiologists, women have 11 lobes in their brain, only 5 of which are connected to one another.

Scientists have discovered that women randomly change blood types, at random intervals. Mathematicians have confirmed this is the only categorically random effect in nature.

Women always think they look too fat, or too skinny, or that they look the correct weight. They are always wrong.

Women earn 74 cents on the dollar to a man for the same work. This is because they are lazy.

Despite making the majority of consumer purchase decisions, women were not able to prevent the economic collapse. This is because they make bad decisions.

The ability to be understood is contained in genetic information on the Y chromosome. Many women do not have this chromosome.

All of the misunderstood people in history have been women. For example, Lileth, Hypatia, Emmy Noether, Hitler, and Ann Coulter.

Neo Arts girlfriend has been trying to break up with him for 3 years. He just can't understand what she's saying, because she went to Brown.

Thus, women are enigmas that can't be understood, QED.

I can't stop laughing. Again you've outdone yourself there, Toomey-chama.:D

Neo Arts girlfriend has been trying to break up with him for 3 years. He just can't understand what she's saying, because she went to Brown.


To be fair, the gag might also have something to do with it. :p

I can't stop laughing. Again you've outdone yourself there, Toomey-chama.:D

What do you mean?

To be fair, the gag might also have something to do with it. :p

Yeah...for Neo Art, "girlfriend" might mean "missing hitchhiker".

What do you mean?

Me? Nothing at all. <.<

Me? Nothing at all. <.<

What?

What?

Nani ka?

Nani ka?

Anata wa kami desu yo.

Yeah...for Neo Art, "girlfriend" might mean "missing hitchhiker".

it puts the lotion on its skin. IT DOES WHAT ITS TOLD!

Anata wa kami desu yo.

You're calling me a god?:confused:

it puts the lotion on its skin. IT DOES WHAT ITS TOLD!

*whacks Neo with a tire iron*

Did I do that? Bwhahahahaha!~

it puts the lotion on its skin. IT DOES WHAT ITS TOLD!
*sigh*

it puts the lotion on its skin. IT DOES WHAT ITS TOLD!

Clown.:tongue:

Yeah...for Neo Art, "girlfriend" might mean "missing hitchhiker".

Nah, I'm actually acquainted with the female in question, and she doesn't seem to be a missing hitchhiker. A bit crazy, possibly, but NA tells me she's good in the sack, so I suppose that makes up for it.

You're calling me a god?:confused:

Well, when applied to you, context would render the meaning of the word as "heaven" or "spirit" or "super awesome cat-ear girl".

Nah, I'm actually acquainted with the female in question, and she doesn't seem to be a missing hitchhiker. A bit crazy, possibly, but NA tells me she's good in the sack, so I suppose that makes up for it.

Crazy in the head, crazy in the bed.

S'truth.

Well, when applied to you, context would render the meaning of the word as "heaven" or "spirit" or "super awesome cat-ear girl".

Ah, so desu, so desu. Arigatou gozaimsu, Toomey-chama. Watashi wa megami desu yo.:wink:

it puts the lotion on its skin. IT DOES WHAT ITS TOLD!
And then it kidnaps your fluffy little dog and keeps it and raises it better than you did.

it puts the lotion on its skin. IT DOES WHAT ITS TOLD!

Both of you bastards made me spit beer! :D

You're calling me a god?:confused:
Well, he could have also been calling you paper, hair, add (something to), or top. :tongue:

Crazy in the head, crazy in the bed.

S'truth.

Crazy bitches fuck like champs.

But since I did not understand that they are easily understandable, the understandability of women's understanding is understated. Meta-QED.

That didn't make any sense, so I'm calling chewbacca defense. That's a logical fallacy, so your argument is wrong. Re-QED and this time I'm putting glue on it.

Crazy bitches fuck like champs.

Are you trying to garner Neo Art's favor by quoting his fraternity motto?

That didn't make any sense, so I'm calling chewbacca defense. That's a logical fallacy, so your argument is wrong. Re-QED and this time I'm putting glue on it.

Dammit! Glue...

That's how they settled the Poincare Conjecture.

Are you trying to garner Neo Art's favor by quoting his fraternity motto?

neo art's favor comes handcuffed and ball gagged.

Crazy bitches fuck like champs.
Uh... not from my experience.

Uh... not from my experience.

either you would be saying an ex fucked like a champ or that your wife is crazy.

Yes. We understand. Not in your experience ;)

either you would be saying an ex fucked like a champ or that your wife is crazy.

Yes. We understand. Not in your experience ;)
Get over here so I can smack you...

Get over here so I can smack you...

muahahaha

*runs*

muahahaha

*runs*
http://www.gearfuse.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/ps2-04-mortal-kombat.jpg
*Ahem*, I said GET OVER HERE!

http://www.gearfuse.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/ps2-04-mortal-kombat.jpg
*Ahem*, I said GET OVER HERE!

Epic ownage!

http://www.gearfuse.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/ps2-04-mortal-kombat.jpg
*Ahem*, I said GET OVER HERE!

Yes sir :(

Stemming from Dimesa's thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=583606:

Male Generalites:
Are we, women, truly so difficult to understand?

You're asking alleged males on the internet this question? You may want to expand your survey sample. :tongue:

That said, I'll actually read your thread later, when I'm not writing a lengthy paper due in 20 hours.

Yes you are! You give out signs, fuck up our minds, make us fall for you and then either return that love or brush it aside no matter what we do!

[/thread]
Yes, damn you women for picking one of all the possible ways to react!:soap:

NA has teh smart. *nod*

Well, except for the bit about his girlfriend not being an alien. I happen to have inside information that she's from a small planet near Betelgeuse, and is just exceptionally good at hiding her second head.

One thing I find that helps when trying to understand women is when talking to them listen to what they have to say, instead of staring at their boobs. Or at least, in addition to that.

Okay, I just have to pause for a moment on this topic.

What is the deal with guys who cannot fathom how to unfasten a bra? It is a freaking hook and eye closure! It is approximately the simplest device imaginable! What, males of the world, is so colossally confusing about the things? :p
Nothing at all. It's easy for me to do one-handed without looking (I wouldn't even mention the looking if someone else hadn't). For whatever reason, I can't do it with two hands. Only one at a time.

Its easier with a friend... I like putting them on women almost as much as taking them off. One of my 'skills' is turning putting clothing on into an intimate process that makes women shiver when they remember it ;).

With disgust? :tongue:

Amazing, the thread actually manged to get somewhat back on track. ;)

"On track" would usually mean "addressing the question put in the OP."

The OP's persistent indulgence in spam rather suggests, though, that "her" thread isn't really about that at all. It fails as a copycat / tangent thread, even.

Looking at the luminary posters who are quite happy to spam and joke here, it is pretty clear that the "track" of this thread isn't serious at all. It's probably best to give up on a serious approach, lest you be accused of hijacking ...

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You're asking alleged males on the internet this question? You may want to expand your survey sample. :tongue:

You would probably enjoy the (one?) post of Pirated Corsairs.

That said, I'll actually read your thread later, when I'm not writing a lengthy paper due in 20 hours.

If you haven't the time, it's largely play about sexual organs, clothes and clothes shopping. The bit where Nanatsu no Tsuki gets back into "her" thread by outright flaming greed and death is noteworthy.

Sincere expressions of opinion leading to substantial debate ... absent.

Women are crazy bitches.

Men are idiotic assholes.

"On track" would usually mean "addressing the question put in the OP."

The OP's persistent indulgence in spam rather suggests, though, that "her" thread isn't really about that at all. It fails as a copycat / tangent thread, even.

Looking at the luminary posters who are quite happy to spam and joke here, it is pretty clear that the "track" of this thread isn't serious at all. It's probably best to give up on a serious approach, lest you be accused of hijacking ...

==========



You would probably enjoy the (one?) post of Pirated Corsairs.



If you haven't the time, it's largely play about sexual organs, clothes and clothes shopping. The bit where Nanatsu no Tsuki gets back into "her" thread by outright flaming greed and death is noteworthy.

Sincere expressions of opinion leading to substantial debate ... absent.
SOMEONE MADE A THREAD WORTH READING??!?!?!???

There is hope, after all . . .

after 60+ years I can honestly say that I don't have a freaking clue about women.

Understand? not really...

Solve, thats another matter entirely, lol...

after 60+ years I can honestly say that I don't have a freaking clue about women.

After 60+ years, I can honestly say, I haven't a clue about the human race. So what's the problem?

After 60+ years, I can honestly say, I haven't a clue about the human race. So what's the problem?

Probably gross generalizations, but that's just a guess *shrug*

Maybe it's a see-through bra. I have a couple of those... :p
I demand proof! :tongue:

If it does I am standing on the side of the room witht he girls, these guys scare me.
I'd say the same, except for a reason of sexual preference. :tongue:

Oh dear god yes. Swimsuit shopping is hell, which is why I've had the same swimsuit for....ten years now, maybe? I don't even know if it still fits. :p

I think the worst for me, though, is shopping for jeans. Why the hell the people who make jeans cannot understand that I am possessed of these magical mystical things known as "hips" and "an ass," and the jeans should actually be able to fit OVER them without having eight inches of extra material at the waist, I will never understand, but it leaves me feeling monstrous for being shaped like a girl.
Because they are effectively tailored for male dimensions. And I never have enough crotch room in pants. Ever. I suppose that could just be me, but I rather doubt it. :D

The real secret is my dashing appearance and sexual prowess ...rwar. (jk.)

In my experience, the best women prefer the latter. :wink:

Yes sir :(
*Grabs trout annnnnnnnnnnd*



:wink::tongue:

This pretty much sums up the feminine mystique for me.



Why Men Die First

Why do men die first? This is a question that has gone unanswered for centuries, but, now we know. It requires a bit of explanation, first:

If you put a woman on a pedestal and try to protect her from the rat race ... you're a male chauvinist. If you stay home and do the housework ... you're a pansy. If you work too hard ... there's never any time for her. If you don't work enough ... you're a good-for-nothing bum. If she has a boring repetitive job with low pay ... this is exploitation. If you have a boring repetitive job with low pay ... you should get off your lazy behind and find something better. If you get a promotion ahead of her ... that is favoritism. If she gets a job ahead of you ... its equal opportunity.

If you mention how nice she looks ... its sexual harassment. If you keep quiet ... its male indifference. If you cry ... you're a wimp. If you don't ... you're an insensitive bastard. If you make a decision without consulting her ... you're a chauvinist.

If she makes a decision without consulting you, she's a liberated woman. If you ask her to do something she doesn't enjoy ... that's domination. If SHE asks you ... it's a favor. If you appreciate the female form and frilly underwear ... you're a pervert. If you don't ... you're gay.

If you like a woman to shave her legs and keep in shape ... you're sexist. If you don't ... you're unromantic. If you try to keep yourself in shape ... you're vain. If you don't ... you're a slob. If you buy her flowers ... you're after something. If you don't ... you're not thoughtful. If you're proud of your achievements ... you're full of yourself. If you don't ... you're not ambitious. If she has a headache ... she's tired. If you have a headache ... you don't love her anymore. If you want it too often ... you're oversexed. If you don't ... there must be someone else.

Why do men die first? Because they want to.

http://www.jumbojoke.com/why_men_die_first.html

Yes you are, but I believe it is a product of how men are taught to be. Where women are allowed to explore their emotions, men are constantly taught to be stoic and not let their emotions control them. So in the latter stages of life, when men are trying to relate to or understand their female counterparts, they lack the neccasarry experience with their emotional side to understand the depths of the problem.

That or it could be that men think with their stomache and appendage. :p
Personally, I think this is BS, but my upbringing was, shall we say, not average. Also, in my experience, men understand the depth of the problem, they just don't know the solution, or unwilling to employ it.

Yes, woman can be very difficult to understand, if you don't take the time to try to listen and understand them. On the other hand though, I have run into many women who don't take the time to explain things to their guy friends either and then get annoyed when they are not understood.
SO TRUE. I don't know why women expect men to know automatically how they are feeling. I used to do this thing with my ex where he's say something, and I'd explain what I heard.

Him: I have to go
Me: You said "I have to go" but I heard "Spending time with you really isn't worth it, so I'm not going to, even though I don't have any other plans."

And he'd be all ?!?!!!???! WHERE DID YOU GET THAT FROM??????

But at least he know what I was reacting to, and could clarify his meaning.

I always tell couples to spell it out for the other person, don't think they'll get the hints, they won't.
Yes.

As to "Why"?
*snip*

Also, women have a biologically higher pain-threshold than men (all other factors being roughly equal)-this is probably a good thing, since birth is such a painful process.
*snipped* part was really nifty.

I'd heard that women actually had a LOWER pain-threshold, but a higher pain tolerance. So while it takes less to hurt a woman, she can deal with it better.

*whacks Neo with a tire iron*

Did I do that? Bwhahahahaha!~
Tire iron fetish? :tongue:

"On track" would usually mean "addressing the question put in the OP."

The OP's persistent indulgence in spam rather suggests, though, that "her" thread isn't really about that at all. It fails as a copycat / tangent thread, even.

Looking at the luminary posters who are quite happy to spam and joke here, it is pretty clear that the "track" of this thread isn't serious at all. It's probably best to give up on a serious approach, lest you be accused of hijacking ...

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You would probably enjoy the (one?) post of Pirated Corsairs.



If you haven't the time, it's largely play about sexual organs, clothes and clothes shopping. The bit where Nanatsu no Tsuki gets back into "her" thread by outright flaming greed and death is noteworthy.

Sincere expressions of opinion leading to substantial debate ... absent.
I made a little time here and there. I have been gone too long if people think they ought to warn me when a thread is overrun by spam. You don't understand me at all, mate. :tongue:

*Grabs trout annnnnnnnnnnd*



:wink::tongue:

Ugh... Eut's trout never will manage to leave the forum....

Male Generalites:
Are we, women, truly so difficult to understand?

...I don't think so, but then, I'm always one to put off real studying until the day before finals, so it'll work itself out to a C+ in the end.

:tongue:

Stemming from Dimesa's thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=583606:

Male Generalites:
Are we, women, truly so difficult to understand?

Yep.

Ugh... Eut's trout never will manage to leave the forum....
Of course not. It's just... so handy AND has a Monty Python reference in it. What's not to like?

I find women easier to understand than men, personally.

This pretty much sums up the feminine mystique for me.
http://www.jumbojoke.com/why_men_die_first.html

Or rather, not so much we die because we want to, but everyone of us dies young of a broken heart because were fucked no matter what we do.

Or rather, not so much we die because we want to, but everyone of us dies young of a broken heart because were fucked no matter what we do.

Story of my Life :(

. I have been gone too long if people think they ought to warn me when a thread is overrun by spam. You don't understand me at all, mate. :tongue:

indeed, although I thought it was a recommendation, not a warning. . .

indeed, although I thought it was a recommendation, not a warning. . .

What's with the recent return of a few forum notables from my old lurker days? You guys get bored or something? I mean, seriously, you, FD, Straughn, a few others I've forgotten. It must be hard re-adjusting to the new surroundings. Especially without the spam forum :(

On-topic: I've always preferred dealing with women than men. I find they give you more to work with. Who knows, maybe I enjoy the challenge, but I get so bored when I hand around with just my guy friends. It's so... deadpan. Who wants the superficiality and closedness of blokes when the girls will actually let you dig a little deeper?

Let me see if I've got this right. According to this thread, bras suck, women need to spell things out more, men need to listen better, and NA and Poli still have a cracking sex life. Did I miss anything important?

NA and Poli still have a cracking sex life.

I would think we have a very normal sex life. It's all y'all that are messed up.

The only hangup i have with females in general is their propensity to behave irrationally. The thing that kills me is they "know" they are behaving irrationally yet seem to not have any ability to change this behavior until the next morning.

A direct quote from my gf " I know when im being a bitch that im being a bitch, i just cant stop it."

when I think of women. I think of a man then take away reason and accountability.
When I think of some men, I think of cavemen who grunt, scratch and take potshots at women because they feel inferior.

That, or a full diaper.

Most men, however, do not fit this mold.

Not particularly, though I did have relationship with a woman who said she shouldn't have to tell me her feelings as I should just know what they were. That was doomed.

Most women that I have been with I did not understand at all. I understand my wife 95% of the time. I did not understand my wife on Valentine's Day. On V Day I woke her up early to take her out to breakfast and get groceries at the farmers' market. Then we went home and I jhelped her put away the food. Then I told her that we can go back to bed now that the stuff we needed to do was over. She got mad but went to bed for 4 1/2 hours. Then we woke up and I packed up our stuff for a night at our cabin while she was in the shower. Then I took her for her favorite type of date where we go to our favorite restaraunt and then go and see a movie.

She cried on the way to the restaraunt anout how I did not let her sleep enough (although I let her sleep as much as possible). Then when we went to the restaraunt she did a 180 on me and was happy and she was happy for the rest of the weekend.

This is one of those examples where I do not get her. These are the exceptions to the rule. 95% of the time she is not crazy. Almost all of her craziness concerns her strange relationship with sleeping in on weekends.

There are a lot of crazy girls out there and I dated a lot of them before I met my wife. The trick is not to take them too seriously or they can really bum you out. If you approach women from the perspective that they are unpredictable like animals and that they are all insane, it makes life a lot easier. I should note that this applies mainly to American women. I lived with a foreign women in America and she opened up my eyes to the fact that our women are nuts and European ones are fine. She was amazed at how insane American women are. I have no explanation for it although I suspect that American women's magazines might be a little to blame as they seem to encourage overanalysis of life and relationships.

Not particularly, though I did have relationship with a woman who said she shouldn't have to tell me her feelings as I should just know what they were. That was doomed.
I've had a few men say pretty much the same thing to me. Those relationships were doomed, too.

Not particularly, though I did have relationship with a woman who said she shouldn't have to tell me her feelings as I should just know what they were. That was doomed.

She was a crazy biotch. There are a lot of goofies out there.

nah. It's just not sexy. Sure a sexy girl can hold one, but the same goes for a decapitated, rotting human head. Decapitated heads aren't sexy just because sexy girls can hold them; they're sexy for completely different reasons.

har!

Most are, some are not.

I celebrate 20 years of marriage come this summer(to the same woman). What I often find is that she is not that hard to understand(when she is upset, it is clear that she is), but that she often finds me hard to understand.

Typicaly I have found that if a man says something what he actualy means is what he has actualy said. My wife along with many other woman will quite often look for motives behind what was said, and not take it at face value.

What this suggests about how women communicate with each other, and the thought process engaged in such communication, well I'll let you make up your own minds.

Tire iron fetish? :tongue:

It was my weapon of choice last night. *nods*

Meh. My theory is that the "wimmins is so complicated!" meme stems from the fact that relationships between men and women are so much more complex. I imagine if I were trying to negotiate sex and/or share living space with any of my male friends, I'd find it just as difficult.

Or rather, not so much we die because we want to, but everyone of us dies young of a broken heart because were fucked no matter what we do.

Story of my Life :(

Mine, too.

Well, he could have also been calling you paper, hair, add (something to), or top. :tongue:

Then maybe I should be more inclined to say I am paper. It's Toomey after all. :tongue:

"On track" would usually mean "addressing the question put in the OP."

The OP's persistent indulgence in spam rather suggests, though, that "her" thread isn't really about that at all. It fails as a copycat / tangent thread, even.

Looking at the luminary posters who are quite happy to spam and joke here, it is pretty clear that the "track" of this thread isn't serious at all. It's probably best to give up on a serious approach, lest you be accused of hijacking ...

==========



You would probably enjoy the (one?) post of Pirated Corsairs.



If you haven't the time, it's largely play about sexual organs, clothes and clothes shopping. The bit where Nanatsu no Tsuki gets back into "her" thread by outright flaming greed and death is noteworthy.

Sincere expressions of opinion leading to substantial debate ... absent.

You're as charming as ever, I see.

Are women so confusing?
YES YOU/THEY ARE!

I certainly prefer it if a woman is brutally honest as opposed to relying on me to pick up signs and signals. I am not a radar dish, I am more like a confused man holding a cookie sheet and spinning in circles.

I would think we have a very normal sex life. It's all y'all that are messed up.

Exactly! I don't understand this freaky "no one gets hit or tied up" shit. Pervs.

I certainly prefer it if a woman is brutally honest as opposed to relying on me to pick up signs and signals. I am not a radar dish, I am more like a confused man holding a cookie sheet and spinning in circles.

Ah, the perfect man. Confused, with cookies.

I've had a few men say pretty much the same thing to me. Those relationships were doomed, too.

People sometimes just live in a fantasy world of how their perfect partner will just understand them totally.

Stemming from Dimesa's thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=583606:

Male Generalites:
Are we, women, truly so difficult to understand?

No.

SNIP

That is so very interesting tell me more. (http://www.duelinganalogs.com/?date=2007-09-10)

The only hangup i have with females in general is their propensity to behave irrationally. The thing that kills me is they "know" they are behaving irrationally yet seem to not have any ability to change this behavior until the next morning.

A direct quote from my gf " I know when im being a bitch that im being a bitch, i just cant stop it."
Just because you don't understand the reason for our behavior doesn't mean our behavior is without reason. I never behave irrationally. Sometimes immaturely, because I am too furious at disgusting patheticness to care about being polite any more, but the rationale - I'm pissed - is there, and usually I even have a reason for being pissed.

You might not think something so small could be worth so much anger, but then I don't think Starbucks makes coffee to be worth so much money. Doesn't mean the people who drink Starbucks are irrational, just that they value it differently.
I certainly prefer it if a woman is brutally honest as opposed to relying on me to pick up signs and signals. I am not a radar dish, I am more like a confused man holding a cookie sheet and spinning in circles.
If you have cookies on those cookie sheets, you are headed in the right direction. <3 cookies, is brutally honest.

As a history freak, if you came up to me dressed in period clothes, I definitely would be staring. And yes, I would compliment.

:fluffle:

I would've said no, until about three weeks ago. Now I reckon that there exists some thought process regarding romance in a girl's brain that I can't follow.

But there's nothing for it but to deal with it as it comes.

Now I reckon that there exists some thought process regarding romance in a girl's brain that I can't follow.

How many women did you base your study upon?

Is there a gynopsychologist in the house?

How many women did you base your study upon?
One. :tongue:

However, it should be noted that virtually all the girls who heard about the story seemed to understand what happened, while it made no sense to every guy who knows about it.

Anyways, I made no mistakes, no one's mad at anyone, so the damage was minimal.

Now I reckon that there exists some thought process regarding romance in a girl's brain that I can't follow.

your an economist you should be good at predicting impossibly complicated systems :p

Okay, cookies good. Got it. I can make pretty good ginger snaps.

your an economist you should be good at predicting impossibly complicated systems :p

When has an economist ever predicted anything accurately?

When has an economist ever predicted anything accurately?

"As long as the roots are not severed, all is well. And all will be well in the garden.... There will be growth in the spring."

Yes, you crazy women make no sense to me at all.

"Blah blah listen to our emotions and feeelings"
":( Do I really have to?"
*punches because they're full of PMT*
":("

Male Generalites:
Are we, women, truly so difficult to understand?No, you're pretty easy to understand, actually.

:fluffle:

Well, it does take guts and inventive.:wink:

Just because you don't understand the reason for our behavior doesn't mean our behavior is without reason. I never behave irrationally. Sometimes immaturely, because I am too furious at disgusting patheticness to care about being polite any more, but the rationale - I'm pissed - is there, and usually I even have a reason for being pissed.

You might not think something so small could be worth so much anger, but then I don't think Starbucks makes coffee to be worth so much money. Doesn't mean the people who drink Starbucks are irrational, just that they value it differently.

Dubsy, darling, I think you sum up the way I'm thinking way better than even I do. With guys, one can even say the same thing. They can be pretty complicated at times, despite what they may say on the subject.

However, I think many girls do try to understand guys, especially if there's a romantic interest behind. And I also think that just because we sometimes don't get men, doesn't mean they're enigmas or that there isn't a reason behind the way they are.

You're as charming as ever, I see.

I was in a bad mood. I directed that against the thread as a whole since it had just taken up more than an hour of my time. The time wasn't entirely wasted: the thread does have serious contributions, and even some insights within the jesting.

I notice now that your re-entry to the thread at post #175 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14516303) was actually a reply to me. If I'd noticed it then, I could have had the serious discussion I find so lacking in the thread.

But it was somewhat overshadowed by what you did one minute later, which is call another poster an ape. He tried to joke his way out of it, and you called him an ape again. He apologized, and you called him an asshole. He apologized again, and you put him on ignore.

Once, I would have done what the guidelines say to do and reported the three incidents of flaming directly to Moderation. I didn't, because when I've done that before I've been criticized and resented because the abuse wasn't directed at me. "Butt out" seems to be the gist of it, whatever the guidelines say.

Then you bear in mind that the mod Katganistan has posted in this thread, calling "some" men cavemen or babies ... but in direct reply to the very same poster YOU flamed. She doesn't actually flame him herself, but it's a pretty broad hint that she takes your side ... and I don't want to go there again.

You have a charmed life here. You can do without my charm.

I do actually like your posting. You've toned back the multi-thread spamming which I and others complained of, you're usually sincere if not quite insightful. Sometimes even that.

The reason I always seem to be criticizing is that no-one else will, even when you richly deserve it. And this time you did.

I was in a bad mood. I directed that against the thread as a whole since it had just taken up more than an hour of my time. The time wasn't entirely wasted: the thread does have serious contributions, and even some insights within the jesting.

I notice now that your re-entry to the thread at post #175 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14516303) was actually a reply to me. If I'd noticed it then, I could have had the serious discussion I find so lacking in the thread.

But it was somewhat overshadowed by what you did one minute later, which is call another poster an ape. He tried to joke his way out of it, and you called him an ape again. He apologized, and you called him an asshole. He apologized again, and you put him on ignore.

Your opinions are well taken, and I think you know that. As for the poster in question, he had a go at me on another thread. I may be whatever you want to think I am, but I'm not about to put up with disrespect from someone I don't know nor will ever know. Whoever I place on my Ignore list is my prerrogative, precisely because I don't want to flame people out of being in a bad mood.

Once, I would have done what the guidelines say to do and reported the three incidents of flaming directly to Moderation. I didn't, because when I've done that before I've been criticized and resented because the abuse wasn't directed at me. "Butt out" seems to be the gist of it, whatever the guidelines say.

If a mod thought that what I did was flaming, and uncalled for, by all means, they have all the power of Jolt behind them to warn me. If you want to report me, that's also your prerrogative.

Then you bear in mind that the mod Katganistan has posted in this thread, calling "some" men cavemen or babies ... but in direct reply to the very same poster YOU flamed. She doesn't actually flame him herself, but it's a pretty broad hint that she takes your side ... and I don't want to go there again.

Katganistan has, on many occasions, called me out for breaking forum rules. She may like me, but she's not past modding when moderation is needed. Be aware of that.

You have a charmed life here. You can do without my charm.

Yes, I don't need your charm, nor anyone else's. Whoever likes me here, does so because he/she wants to.

I do actually like your posting. You've toned back the multi-thread spamming which I and others complained of, you're usually sincere if not quite insightful. Sometimes even that.

The reason I always seem to be criticizing is that no-one else will, even when you richly deserve it. And this time you did.

Criticism is one thing, borderline meanness is another. You once derailed a thread to call me out when I was addressing another poster, and went on a tirade that left me wondering. That, BunnySaurus, was uncalled for. I let it slide, it doesn't matter. You would do well about moving on.

Now, if you want to discuss the OP, do so. If not, whatever.

But it was somewhat overshadowed by what you did one minute later, which is call another poster an ape. He tried to joke his way out of it, and you called him an ape again. He apologized, and you called him an asshole. He apologized again, and you put him on ignore.


It is a bit disingenuous not to include the part of the story where the poster in question was leering and saying, "show us your boobies" at NnT. You can feel like she overreacted, if you like, but there's no real doubt he was being crude and deliberately obnoxious to begin with.

One. :tongue:

However, it should be noted that virtually all the girls who heard about the story seemed to understand what happened, while it made no sense to every guy who knows about it.

Anyways, I made no mistakes, no one's mad at anyone, so the damage was minimal.

Were they able to explain it to you? The girls, I mean?

Okay, cookies good. Got it. I can make pretty good ginger snaps.

If they are hard they need lemon curd to go with them. -_-

If they are hard they need lemon curd to go with them. -_-

Ooh, that sounds like a yummy combination. Given that I am possessed of both gingersnaps and lemon curd, I'll have to try that sometime. :)

Ooh, that sounds like a yummy combination. Given that I am possessed of both gingersnaps and lemon curd, I'll have to try that sometime. :)

Are gingersnaps good? I have never tried one.

I was in a bad mood. I directed that against the thread as a whole since it had just taken up more than an hour of my time. The time wasn't entirely wasted: the thread does have serious contributions, and even some insights within the jesting.

Umm, doesn't NSG as a whole leave you with that feeling? It does me, thats for damn sure.


I do actually like your posting. You've toned back the multi-thread spamming which I and others complained of, you're usually sincere if not quite insightful. Sometimes even that.

The reason I always seem to be criticizing is that no-one else will, even when you richly deserve it. And this time you did.

What's wrong with multi-thread spamming? Especially past page 20???

Ooh, that sounds like a yummy combination. Given that I am possessed of both gingersnaps and lemon curd, I'll have to try that sometime. :)

I didn't know gingersnaps and lemon curd could possess, I just thought that was upper-level demons. . .

Are gingersnaps good? I have never tried one.

I have never met a gingersnap I didn't like, whether it was a big soft chewy one or a tiny thin crispy one. They are yummy. :)

Are gingersnaps good? I have never tried one.

No. It was a terrible movie.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4214/gingersnapscover2fk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I didn't know gingersnaps and lemon curd could possess, I just thought that was upper-level demons. . .

No, I'm possessed of gingersnaps. I'm possessed by something else entirely. ;)

I just thought that was upper-level demons. . .I got a little desperate, and my high level monk friend and I had only gingersnaps and lemon curd to seal away that bastard with. It was a peculiar, and difficult, process.

No. It was a terrible movie.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4214/gingersnapscover2fk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I meant the cookies or such. But thanks for telling me there was a movie of the same name, that way I don't watch it by mistake.:wink:

Dubsy, darling, I think you sum up the way I'm thinking way better than even I do. With guys, one can even say the same thing. They can be pretty complicated at times, despite what they may say on the subject.

However, I think many girls do try to understand guys, especially if there's a romantic interest behind. And I also think that just because we sometimes don't get men, doesn't mean they're enigmas or that there isn't a reason behind the way they are.

Yeah, guys claim to say what they mean, but often times that's not true. They drop hints hoping we'll notice them, just as we do. So we over-analyze, probably, but not without reason. Sometimes he doesn't call for 2 days because he's been sucked into NSG and just forgot to call, and sometimes he doesn't call for 2 days because he doesn't want to talk to you, period. *shrugs*

People are stupid, and I don't know how they expect other people to understand their meaning if they don't make themselves clear.

People are stupid, and I don't know how they expect other people to understand their meaning if they don't make themselves clear.I am very clear.
I was absolutely out of everything, other than gingersnaps and lemon curd. Do you really think I wanted to seal that level 191 demon into food?

:wink:

Yeah, guys claim to say what they mean, but often times that's not true. They drop hints hoping we'll notice them, just as we do. So we over-analyze, probably, but not without reason. Sometimes he doesn't call for 2 days because he's been sucked into NSG and just forgot to call, and sometimes he doesn't call for 2 days because he doesn't want to talk to you, period. *shrugs*

Exactly. And then, some go as far as overreacting if we don't 'take their hints'. I am one who doesn't like to hound a man. What for? If they want to talk to you, they'll call. If not, move on, there are more fish in the sea.

People are stupid, and I don't know how they expect other people to understand their meaning if they don't make themselves clear.

I hear you. Want some cake?

Exactly. And then, some go as far as overreacting if we don't 'take their hints'. I am one who doesn't like to hound a man. What for? If they want to talk to you, they'll call. If not, move on, there are more fish in the sea.

Oh, I'm totally a hounder. Basically until he says "I am absolutely uninterested in you, and will not ever be interested in you. Your best friend is pretty hot, though," I cling to hope.

Oh well, Lent start in something like 10 days, and I think I'm going to give up booze, Alaskans, and paying mind to worthless shits for it.


I hear you. Want some cake?
Yes. And booze.

Oh well, Lent start in something like 10 days, and I think I'm going to give up booze, Alaskans, and paying mind to worthless shits for it.

Ah, I forgot about Lent. Damn it. When's Ash Wednesday?

Yes. And booze.

I got absinthe. I always got absinthe. I have a serious problem. Want some absinthe? <.<

Ah, I forgot about Lent. Damn it. When's Ash Wednesday?


A week from Wednesday (tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, depending on how far in The Future you live).


I got absinthe. I always got absinthe. I have a serious problem. Want some absinthe? <.<
I've got a mostly full bottle of vodka calling to me, but nothing to mix it with. Maybe I'll get motivation to do something besides post today, after all!

Mmmmm, the connoisseur's way of killing your brain, liver and kidneys....

http://www.geocities.com/absinthe.speakeasy/img/absinthebg.jpg

Refined with a sugar cube, or some other bizarre fashion?

A week from Wednesday (tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, depending on how far in The Future you live).

Hmm... I'll be in a different latitude. That may put me a day behind my current future. And such.

I've got a mostly full bottle of vodka calling to me, but nothing to mix it with. Maybe I'll get motivation to do something besides post today, after all!

Like... go and get yourself a bottle of soda or some OJ. *nod*

Mmmmm, the connoisseur's way of killing your brain, liver and kidneys....

http://www.geocities.com/absinthe.speakeasy/img/absinthebg.jpg

Refined with a sugar cube, or some other bizarre fashion?

That's it! *drools*

That's it! *drools*

Ahhh, beautiful! The flames! The anise! The mild hallucinations (well, after half a bottle, if you were still conscious)

Now I'm feeling nostalgic for the pub in Soho that used to serve it for £3.50 :(

Seems you can only get it in a frigging cocktail these days... /gets old

Hmm... I'll be in a different latitude. That may put me a day behind my current future. And such.



Like... go and get yourself a bottle of soda or some OJ. *nod*

Meh, responsible persons who are more interested in my well being than I am have advised me not to, so I guess I won't.

Meh, responsible persons who are more interested in my well being than I am have advised me not to, so I guess I won't.

Then heed those advices from responsible persons more interested in your well being than you. I know I will miss the alcohol.:(

Ahhh, beautiful! The flames! The anise! The mild hallucinations (well, after half a bottle, if you were still conscious)

Now I'm feeling nostalgic for the pub in Soho that used to serve it for £3.50 :(

Seems you can only get it in a frigging cocktail these days... /gets old

*withers away*
You're making me feel nostalgic about that bottle of glorious and deadly absinthe I have on my pantry. It's bound to pine away and cry for me, but I cannot finish it. If you want it, I can send it to you.:(

*withers away*
You're making me feel nostalgic about that bottle of glorious and deadly absinthe I have on my pantry. It's bound to pine away and cry for me, but I cannot finish it. If you want it, I can send it to you.:(

aaagggghhh.... gnnnnngnnnnnngngnng.... must resist....... offer of deadly booze.... Especially if it's the proper stuff....

Why can't you finish it? It's blatantly calling you out! Don't be a pussy! Show it who's boss! Drink it!

I am your conscience, speaking through the media of fora.

Your opinions are well taken, and I think you know that. As for the poster in question, he had a go at me on another thread.

My opinions are tolerated, that is all I know. Whether they're ignored, respected, or well taken I cannot say.

As to the "payback" thing -- no, no, no. Most posters stay in one or two threads at a time. Then there are fast readers, full-time posters (I admit I was one once) and drive-by's, who post equally sensibly in a dozen threads.

But spare a thought for the average reader. They see you flame a poster, is it really fair to expect them to consider your interactions in some other thread?

I may be whatever you want to think I am, but I'm not about to put up with disrespect from someone I don't know nor will ever know. Whoever I place on my Ignore list is my prerrogative, precisely because I don't want to flame people out of being in a bad mood.

I began my previous post by saying that I had posted in a bad mood.

It wasn't meant to excuse three instances of flaming, though. All I had to answer for was being (ironically) charming.

All I will admit to is being humourless in a mostly humorous thread. I wasn't even rude to anyone.

You however, broke forum rules.

I've explained why I didn't report you. The rules of this forum are a bad joke, as long as Katganistan is a mod.

I ask you, politely and respectfully, to observe the rules as written and not take the counsel of any one Mod, if it seems to permit "tit-for-tat" flaming. Stick to the rules as written. Don't be her Faustus ... whatever fame you may gain by it.

If a mod thought that what I did was flaming, and uncalled for, by all means, they have all the power of Jolt behind them to warn me. If you want to report me, that's also your prerrogative.

Actually, it isn't any more. I chose to whine about it in-thread, and if I were to now report it I would be guilty of "using mods as weapons" or possibly of being part of the flaming/flame-baiting problem I was reporting.

Whatever the guidelines say, this is my experience: to report to Moderation means you have to back down or go silent in the thread. To return tit-for-tat with the abuse in-thread invalidates a Moderation appeal, or at least gets the same penalty as you ask for.

This time, I chose not to report. Instead, I simply protest you flaming another poster for whatever reason.

You called greed and death bad names. THREE TIMES, in the face of his attempts to laugh it off and even to directly and unambiguously apologize. That is disgraceful, and YOU should apologize.

I wonder if you can do that.

Katganistan has, on many occasions, called me out for breaking forum rules. She may like me, but she's not past modding when moderation is needed. Be aware of that.

"On many occasions" means, what, three, four?

For most people, that's at least a two day ban. Have you had one of those?

Criticism is one thing, borderline meanness is another. You once derailed a thread to call me out when I was addressing another poster, and went on a tirade that left me wondering. That, BunnySaurus, was uncalled for. I let it slide, it doesn't matter. You would do well about moving on.

And that, Nanatsu, is called "bearing a grudge." To ask me to move on, while vaguely referring to some ill I once did you and your great forbearance in the face of it ...

Well, that is rank hypocrisy. You ask me to bury my own hatchet, even as you exhume your own ...

Now, if you want to discuss the OP, do so. If not, whatever.

I will question why you started a whole new thread on this subject.

You replied once to the thread you quote in the OP. Dimesa's thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14514230&postcount=1). And you had a reply which you could have taken up, from SaintB who tends towards jesting but can be brought to heel ... but no, you're point that "women aren't so hard to understand" or whatever your point was in starting this thread, was far more important than that, wasn't it?

No, it deserved a whole thread of its own. Because you said it. :rolleyes:

How about, instead of a whole new thread, you recast the "thread subject" in some way that doesn't assume "us and them," in which you do not assume the role of speaking for women, all women, and in which your question is not addressed implicitly to men?

I am prepared to take up the thread subject. But first, I will give you the opportunity to more clearly define what the subject actually is.

Male Generalites:
Are we, women, truly so difficult to understand?I wonder if my posting history shines any light on that ....

Umm, doesn't NSG as a whole leave you with that feeling? It does me, thats for damn sure.

That must be hard for you. I can't imagine why you read it and post to it, if it is so unsatisfactory for you. Kind of like an addiction?

No, it's not like that for me. I love NSG, and while I sometimes feel let down, overall it is worth it. Or else I wouldn't come here at all.

With disgust? :tongue:

Come to think of it they never did clarify what they meant by shiver...

My opinions are tolerated, that is all I know. Whether they're ignored, respected, or well taken I cannot say.

As to the "payback" thing -- no, no, no. Most posters stay in one or two threads at a time. Then there are fast readers, full-time posters (I admit I was one once) and drive-by's, who post equally sensibly in a dozen threads.

But spare a thought for the average reader. They see you flame a poster, is it really fair to expect them to consider your interactions in some other thread?



I began my previous post by saying that I had posted in a bad mood.

It wasn't meant to excuse three instances of flaming, though. All I had to answer for was being (ironically) charming.

All I will admit to is being humourless in a mostly humorous thread. I wasn't even rude to anyone.

You however, broke forum rules.

I've explained why I didn't report you. The rules of this forum are a bad joke, as long as Katganistan is a mod.

I ask you, politely and respectfully, to observe the rules as written and not take the counsel of any one Mod, if it seems to permit "tit-for-tat" flaming. Stick to the rules as written. Don't be her Faustus ... whatever fame you may gain by it.



Actually, it isn't any more. I chose to whine about it in-thread, and if I were to now report it I would be guilty of "using mods as weapons" or possibly of being part of the flaming/flame-baiting problem I was reporting.

Whatever the guidelines say, this is my experience: to report to Moderation means you have to back down or go silent in the thread. To return tit-for-tat with the abuse in-thread invalidates a Moderation appeal, or at least gets the same penalty as you ask for.

This time, I chose not to report. Instead, I simply protest you flaming another poster for whatever reason.

You called greed and death bad names. THREE TIMES, in the face of his attempts to laugh it off and even to directly and unambiguously apologize. That is disgraceful, and YOU should apologize.

I wonder if you can do that.



"On many occasions" means, what, three, four?

For most people, that's at least a two day ban. Have you had one of those?



And that, Nanatsu, is called "bearing a grudge." To ask me to move on, while vaguely referring to some ill I once did you and your great forbearance in the face of it ...

Well, that is rank hypocrisy. You ask me to bury my own hatchet, even as you exhume your own ...



I will question why you started a whole new thread on this subject.

You replied once to the thread you quote in the OP. Dimesa's thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14514230&postcount=1). And you had a reply which you could have taken up, from SaintB who tends towards jesting but can be brought to heel ... but no, you're point that "women aren't so hard to understand" or whatever your point was in starting this thread, was far more important than that, wasn't it?

No, it deserved a whole thread of its own. Because you said it. :rolleyes:

How about, instead of a whole new thread, you recast the "thread subject" in some way that doesn't assume "us and them," in which you do not assume the role of speaking for women, all women, and in which your question is not addressed implicitly to men?

I am prepared to take up the thread subject. But first, I will give you the opportunity to more clearly define what the subject actually is.

Let me sum up my thoughts because for you I really have no time to spare. Think, right now and onwards, whatever you like to think. As much as I am capable of respecting a poster of your quality, if you don't like me making threads, because I am oh so not worth it, don't read them.

Your dislike is noted.:rolleyes:

Apologies to him for disrespceting me? Oh no. I don't have to put up with that. It is very convenient to whine about me flaming him, but not to aknowledge the fact that he started it by being crude and vulgar towards me. It's way better to take a hit at me.

None of the other male posters of this site, while joking with me, have attempted at disrespecting me, not once. That wasn't the case of this poster. As for the OP, whatever you have to say on the subject "ni me va, ni me viene". Have a good day.

I wonder if my posting history shines any light on that ....

What do you think? :D

Men who claim to be unable to understand women are simply being polite. They are warning you that they're douchebags and you shouldn't talk to them any more. Thank them for their courtesy and go find somebody else to hang with.

(And vice versa for women who say the same about men.)

The elf has reached the very obvious conclusion that none of us like to be subjects of mind games or expected to know what it is that is actually bothering the other.

Everything is soo simple once we just start talking see. :p

Were they able to explain it to you? The girls, I mean?
Kinda. It was essentially one of those "I don't want a long-term relationship" things, apparently followed by admissions to various friends of mine that she actually did like me and was very unhappy about not being with me.

I mean, it feels nice to be liked and all that - but what the hell is the point of everyone ending up unhappy? Carpe Diem, and all that.

I'm probably just ranting, but I really don't understand this particular decision. And more importantly, it seemed like the girls who she had talked to were not particularly astonished by it. The logic seemed to make sense to them.

Stemming from Dimesa's thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=583606:

Male Generalites:
Are we, women, truly so difficult to understand?

I think it's the boobs.

Stemming from Dimesa's thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=583606:

Male Generalites:
Are we, women, truly so difficult to understand?

No.

For men with Deadly Semen Buildup, women are difficult to understand. But otherwise, no.

I think it's the boobs.

With you, my friend, is always about the boobs.:tongue:

No.

For men with Deadly Semen Buildup, women are difficult to understand. But otherwise, no.

Ok Kimchi, explain that one for all of us.

Nanatsu: The greatest enigma about you is probably the English translation of your name and user group :P

Nanatsu: The greatest enigma about you is probably the English translation of your name and user group :P

Nanatsu no Tsuki means Seven Moons or Septimal Moon.

My user group? :p

Iro Eien Neko... I'll let you decide what that one means.:tongue:

Ok Kimchi, explain that one for all of us.

Men who don't have sex often enough have a problem.

The semen backs up, and into their brain, and rots the brain.

Confusion ensues, and they are unable to understand women.

Regular sexual release is a condition of good male mental health.

Men who don't have sex often enough have a problem.

The semen backs up, and into their brain, and rots the brain.

Confusion ensues, and they are unable to understand women.

Regular sexual release is a condition of good male mental health.

http://lolwut.eu/images/lolwut.jpg
Please, if you would be so kind, link us to the evidence for this claim.

Men who don't have sex often enough have a problem.

The semen backs up, and into their brain, and rots the brain.

Confusion ensues, and they are unable to understand women.

Regular sexual release is a condition of good male mental health.

In before the source request.

EDIT: Damn!

In before the source request.

EDIT: Damn!

*edges close, opens canvas sack, bags Gallo-dono, edges away*

*edges close, opens canvas sack, bags Gallo-dono, edges away*

You going to help my mental health?

You going to help my mental health?

Don't I always? <.<

Now shut up and pretend I'm kidnapping you.

Don't I always? <.<

Now shut up and pretend I'm kidnapping you.

Oh, right.

Help, help! I'm defenseless against the Spanish Inquisition!

Oh, right.

Help, help! I'm defenseless against the Spanish Inquisition!

No one, absolutely no one expects the Spanish Inquisition! Not even Darth Elmo! Bwhahahahahaha!!!

http://i.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/050321/151820__si_l.jpg

No one, absolutely no one expects the Spanish Inquisition! Not even Darth Elmo! Bwhahahahahaha!!!

Please, not the comfy chair!

No one, absolutely no one expects the Spanish Inquisition! Not even Darth Elmo! Bwhahahahahaha!!!

He was soo young. He shall be missed. :p

Please, not the comfy chair!

Haha! That is exactly what you'll get! Our first weapon is surprise...

And the rest I've yet to learn it.:$

He was soo young. He shall be missed. :p

Who says I want to kill the Sith? Sith are smexy and evil!:fluffle:

Who says I want to kill the Sith? Sith are smexy and evil!:fluffle:

Whoever said I thought you were going to kill him?

Whoever said I thought you were going to kill him?

Didn't you imply that? <.<

Why not have the best of both worlds, with new Otaku Sith

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z57/vapirair2/hello-kitty-darth-vader.jpg

Didn't you imply that? <.<

Not at all. It's just another case of the spider catching the prey in a web to poke at and have fun with later. :p

Why not have the best of both worlds, with new Otaku Sith

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z57/vapirair2/hello-kitty-darth-vader.jpg

That... hurts... my... otakuness!:(

Not at all. It's just another case of the spider catching the prey in a web to poke at and have fun with later. :p

You want to have fun with Gallo-dono?

*offers Galloism for the common good*

You want to have fun with Gallo-dono?

*offers Galloism for the common good*

*returns Galloism*

Your catch, your fun.

That... hurts... my... otakuness!:(

It hurts my Vaderness.

It hurts my Vaderness.

I'm sure it does. So pink, so colourful, so not like Darth Elmo. *shakes head*

I'm sure it does. So pink, so colourful, so not like Darth Elmo. *shakes head*

Indeed, it needs some navy or some dark green in there!

*gets out highlighters*
bwhahahahaha

Indeed, it needs some navy or some dark green in there!

*gets out highlighters*
bwhahahahaha

:eek:

:eek:

Oh come on, you know a dark green Vader would scare all those little kids into eating their veggies! <_<

Oh come on, you know a dark green Vader would scare all those little kids into eating their veggies! <_<

I find your lack of taste disturbing.

I find your lack of taste disturbing.

:fluffle:

I find your lack of taste disturbing.

Says the man who hides behind a mask!

Says the man who hides behind a mask!

Hey, at least I'm aware that my face is not fit for human observance, unlike some people.

Hey, at least I'm aware that my face is not fit for human observance, unlike some people.

I thought you hid your face because to look upon it would be to stare into the face of a god. It scorches your senses. Or was that just a rumor?

My user group? :p

Iro Eien Neko... I'll let you decide what that one means.:tongue:

Damn you babelfish and your refusal to translate anglicized japanese! You fail me again! :mad: All I can guess is that there's a feline reference in there.

*deftly returns to topic*

Most of my experience with female peculiarities is from dealing with my sisters. If they are a fair representative of women in general, there is some validity to the stereotypes. For example, when they're mad, they expect me to know why, even when they're mad at someone I've never met. They also seem to read body language very carefully - to the point of reading things nonexistent. Do chicks have a secret sign language based on apparently random slight body movements, and expect us guys to understand it and 'speak' it?

Damn you babelfish and your refusal to translate anglicized japanese! You fail me again! :mad: All I can guess is that there's a feline reference in there.

Iro- sensual
Eien- star
Neko- cat

*deftly returns to topic*

Most of my experience with female peculiarities is from dealing with my sisters. If they are a fair representative of women in general, there is some validity to the stereotypes. For example, when they're mad, they expect me to know why, even when they're mad at someone I've never met. They also seem to read body language very carefully - to the point of reading things nonexistent. Do chicks have a secret sign language based on apparently random slight body movements, and expect us guys to understand it and 'speak' it?

I sometimes feel like I'm a weird specimen of my sex.

Stemming from Dimesa's thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=583606:

Male Generalites:
Are we, women, truly so difficult to understand?

well, women are a mystery...

one I don't mind studying up close... almost on a personal level...

I even learned the way to avoid catastrophic arguments.

repeat the words...
"You're right dear."
"Yes dear."
"Gee... I was wrong."
and the most important one...
"I'm sorry."

well, women are a mystery...

one I don't mind studying up close... almost on a personal level...

I even learned the way to avoid catastrophic arguments.

repeat the words...
"You're right dear."
"Yes dear."
"Gee... I was wrong."
and the most important one...
"I'm sorry."

*claps*

Right on!:D

Yes.

Hey, at least I'm aware that my face is not fit for human observance,

I take it you are exceedingly handsome.

*claps*

Right on!:D

yes dear... thank you dear. :D

It's not the things I don't understand about women that worry me; it's the things I do.

I take it you are exceedingly handsome.

Other side of the spectrum.

Other side of the spectrum.

Oh. Hi, neighbor!

With you, my friend, is always about the boobs.:tongue:

Not true. Quite often it is about the ass, the vaj, T&A both, or some combination of the three.

Besides, vaginas are also confusing. I mean, seriously, have you looked at one recently?

Other side of the spectrum.

Hence we must work on our wit and tactical approach. I've always done well when I recite poetry, but then the stupid jock comes by and I lose the crowd!

Besides, vaginas are also confusing. I mean, seriously, have you looked at one recently?

Well, I have one. What do you think?:wink:

Most of my experience with female peculiarities is from dealing with my sisters. If they are a fair representative of women in general, there is some validity to the stereotypes. For example, when they're mad, they expect me to know why, even when they're mad at someone I've never met. They also seem to read body language very carefully - to the point of reading things nonexistent. Do chicks have a secret sign language based on apparently random slight body movements, and expect us guys to understand it and 'speak' it?
If you start with the assumption that your sisters are full, rational human beings, then you'll be able to answer your own question.

For instance, ask yourself: what might make ME behave the way my sisters behave?

Well, what if for as long as you could remember, you were told that you were "sugar and spice and everything nice"? What if you were always taught, explicitly or implicitly, that being direct and assertive made you "bitchy"? What if you HAD to read body language because you were always expected to be "more nurturing" or "more sensitive" all the time? What if passive-aggressive behavior was always the lesser of two evils, because you'd face a lot more shit if you were plain old aggressive-aggressive?

Whether or not you, your parents, or your sisters consciously believe any of those things, that's the culture that we are all soaking in from birth. That's what girls are constantly hit with every day of their lives. I know it has impacted my behavior, and I'm the Placenta-Gargling Feminazi Supreme(tm) 'round these parts.

Instead of throwing up your hands at the mysterious and crazy behavior that can only be explained by pointing to their alien lady-brains, try empathy. Try assuming that they are people, people who are more like you than not, and see if you can't think of reasons why a PERSON might behave in the way you see women behaving.

*snip*

Have a song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV_g5kmvvSk

Don't know why, I'm reminded of it when you post and, in regard to the thread, it seems to capture the sort of wonderful confusion we all live through, too often we fail to realise how much we're formed by who we are in looks, family, society, genes and more for ourselves, we assume ourselves as rational people, if we simply understood that everyone is, to some extent, trying to be someone, much as we all are, we'd be far more accepting of the fact that people just are.

A confusing post perhaps, in tune with the sentiment.

If you start with the assumption that your sisters are full, rational human beings, then you'll be able to answer your own question.

For instance, ask yourself: what might make ME behave the way my sisters behave?

Well, what if for as long as you could remember, you were told that you were "sugar and spice and everything nice"? What if you were always taught, explicitly or implicitly, that being direct and assertive made you "bitchy"? What if you HAD to read body language because you were always expected to be "more nurturing" or "more sensitive" all the time? What if passive-aggressive behavior was always the lesser of two evils, because you'd face a lot more shit if you were plain old aggressive-aggressive?

Whether or not you, your parents, or your sisters consciously believe any of those things, that's the culture that we are all soaking in from birth. That's what girls are constantly hit with every day of their lives. I know it has impacted my behavior, and I'm the Placenta-Gargling Feminazi Supreme(tm) 'round these parts.

Instead of throwing up your hands at the mysterious and crazy behavior that can only be explained by pointing to their alien lady-brains, try empathy. Try assuming that they are people, people who are more like you than not, and see if you can't think of reasons why a PERSON might behave in the way you see women behaving.

That's one hell of a heap of assumptions you make about our upbringing. We weren't exactly the traditional US family. And I understand that there IS a difference in the way men and women process thoughts - culture conforms to biological reality at least as often as the reverse.

If you start with the assumption that your sisters are full, rational human beings, then you'll be able to answer your own question.

For instance, ask yourself: what might make ME behave the way my sisters behave?

Well, what if for as long as you could remember, you were told that you were "sugar and spice and everything nice"? What if you were always taught, explicitly or implicitly, that being direct and assertive made you "bitchy"? What if you HAD to read body language because you were always expected to be "more nurturing" or "more sensitive" all the time? What if passive-aggressive behavior was always the lesser of two evils, because you'd face a lot more shit if you were plain old aggressive-aggressive?

Whether or not you, your parents, or your sisters consciously believe any of those things, that's the culture that we are all soaking in from birth. That's what girls are constantly hit with every day of their lives. I know it has impacted my behavior, and I'm the Placenta-Gargling Feminazi Supreme(tm) 'round these parts.

Instead of throwing up your hands at the mysterious and crazy behavior that can only be explained by pointing to their alien lady-brains, try empathy. Try assuming that they are people, people who are more like you than not, and see if you can't think of reasons why a PERSON might behave in the way you see women behaving.you can gargle placenta?

That's one hell of a heap of assumptions you make about our upbringing. We weren't exactly the traditional US family. And I understand that there IS a difference in the way men and women process thoughts - culture conforms to biological reality at least as often as the reverse.
The assumptions aren't just about your familiy, but society in general. Yes, your family may not be standard, but your sisters did interact with teachers, peers, the media, and others who constantly reinforce the very notions bottle outlined.

Ok Kimchi, explain that one for all of us.He'll just show us, probably.

What do you think? :DI think the answer is better in a whisper.

Barring that, i have no clue. :p

gender mystique is culturally imbeded self deception. not unique to the dominant culture, which none the less embraces and treats it as kind of a joke, indifferent to its potential for pain.

ahh yes, the ladder theory. A relationship theory that is propagated by men who have heard "let's just be friends" so many times that the only explanation in their mind is that it has to be a conspiracy.

That's not true at all! There's always the option of taking it out on yourself by slowly eroding eroding your own self-esteem until there's little dignity left to separate yourself from a chimp. My personal favorite. :)

You have those weird emotions, and feelings. Guys don't have those things, their weird, and a little scary.

"Fry, is it love if I care about a woman for reasons beyond mating?"

"Nope. Must be some weird alien emotion."

Story of my Life :(

I think our problem is that our hearts are bigger than our balls. We let ourselves get walked all over in the hopes that we'll catch some affection, while failing to realize that our lack of spines actually make us unappealing.

Some of us will wise up, while others will continue to languish until we collapse under the weight of our own self-imposed despair or decide to just asshole our way through life in order to protect ourselves, and half of us will find out that we just don't have an inner asshole to unleash upon the world at all.

Those ones are pretty much fucked.

I think the answer is better in a whisper.

Barring that, i have no clue. :p

Cluelessness is acceptable, within reason.

That's one hell of a heap of assumptions you make about our upbringing. We weren't exactly the traditional US family. And I understand that there IS a difference in the way men and women process thoughts - culture conforms to biological reality at least as often as the reverse.
Actually, if you'll bother to read my post, you'll find that I specifically and clearly stated that nobody in your family needs to buy into ANY of that stuff. They'll still be bathed in it constantly.

And I would love to hear your list of ways that men and women are BIOLOGICALLY set up to process thoughts differently. Because, you see, I'm willing to bet $50 American that at least 75% of the examples you cite will be examples from studies that were performed on adult human beings and which, in fact, do not control for cultural or social conditioning at all.

The truth is that NOBODY knows how similar or different men and women would "naturally" be, because we don't have a control group. We don't have any men or women who grew up in modern nations with matriarchal social and political structure. We don't have any men or women who have grown up in a world where the global community views men and women as equal beings. We simply don't know. So if you have the ins on some information which the top neuroscientists in the world don't have, I will be happy to buy you off so I can publish those findings and get freaking rich...:D

But at the end of the day I'm guessing that you haven't actually read any scientific studies at all. You've read some newspaper articles about some studies, and the reporters told you that menz and womenz are REELY SO VERRY DIFFRENT. It's probably comforting for you to not have to empathize with women, because if you did then you might have to confront the fact that women often act in "weird" ways because women are subjected to some fucking weird conflicting rules about how they have to behave. You might have to confront the fact that you are part of the problem right now, as you perpetuate the myth that women are totally different because of lady-brains, and you are one tiny drop in the ocean of assumptions that your sisters (and all women) get to stew in for their entire lives.

Forgive me for being "bitchy" about this, but I've got zero patience for this "men and women have different brains" crap. I've been studying neuroscience for 10 years and I've heard it a million times before.

We're "different," huh? Well HOW? "Erm, women use both hemispheres more or something?" "Ok, and show me that this is BIOLOGICAL and not in any way altered by environment." "Um...well the thing...with stuff on it...and...look, just shut up. Why do you have to make a big deal out of this?"

Yawn.

Well, I have one. What do you think?:wink:

I think that, since you have one, you would understand how confusing they are.

I think that, since you have one, you would understand how confusing they are.

I don't see anything confusing about vaginas. In other words, I don't know what you're getting at.

Ok Kimchi, explain that one for all of us.

psst... they leak... ;) :p

I don't see anything confusing about vaginas. In other words, I don't know what you're getting at.

I'd join this conversation... but I really don't know what I'll be getting into. :D

I don't see anything confusing about vaginas. In other words, I don't know what you're getting at.

Then, please go to the board and identify all the parts to the vaginal area, and describe the best function and use of each.

Women aren't much of an enigma: Just put them in a room full of shoes, chocolate, and sparklies, and remember to feed them on occasion, and enjoy the peace and quiet.

Then, please go to the board and identify all the parts to the vaginal area, and describe the best function and use of each.

<.<
I'm game.

Then, please go to the board and identify all the parts to the vaginal area, and describe the best function and use of each.

Then, explain a male's relationship to each part and what he should do with it. Then explain the female orgasm and how to go about causing one.
Then explain just exactly the whole period thing works (never trust something that bleeds for seven days and doesn't die)...

Then, explain a male's relationship to each part and what he should do with it. Then explain the female orgasm and how to go about causing one.
Then explain just exactly the whole period thing works (never trust something that bleeds for seven days and doesn't die)...

Rhyno, sweetie, did you get a partner?

Rhyno, sweetie, did you get a partner?

I've had one for a while now.

That's besides the point.

Every female partner I've had has been completely different.


Guys, though, guys are different. Jerk it and you're done. Or fuck it and you're done. Doesn't get any more complicated than that.

I've had one for a while now.

That's besides the point.

Every female partner I've had has been completely different.

Oh no, it's not beside the point. I just suggest that you practice with her and stop asking on the net.:wink:

As further evidence, I offer SMBC:

http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20090219.gif

Oh no, it's not beside the point. I just suggest that you practice with her and stop asking on the net.:wink:

No, you misunderstand. Her, I get (mostly). Every other woman on the planet, I don't.

But no, I get her about as well as I ever am. Not that I don't enjoy trying.

No, you misunderstand. Her, I get (mostly). Every other woman on the planet, I don't.

But no, I get her about as well as I ever am. Not that I don't enjoy trying.

If you do so, as you actually say, then you don't need me to explain anything to you. Now, off you go.

If you do so, as you actually say, then you don't need me to explain anything to you. Now, off you go.

You're not making your point very well.

You're not making your point very well.

How is that possible? I think you're the one who, out of misguided ignorance or plain goofing off (and I don't feel like that today), keeps asking something obvious. You've had sex before, right? You have someone to have sex with, right? What you do to bring your partner to climax, works?

How is that possible? I think you're the one who, out of misguided ignorance or plain goofing off (and I don't feel like that today), keeps asking something obvious. You've had sex before, right? You have someone to have sex with, right? What you do to bring your partner to climax, works?

Might I submit that you, in fact, are acting like an enigma in this exact moment? Dun-dun-duuuuuun!

Might I submit that you, in fact, are acting like an enigma in this exact moment? Dun-dun-duuuuuun!

I always do.;)

But just to humor you, here:
http://www.babyinfocd.com/demo/greatfallsmt/assets/boottabs/small02/diagram.jpg

I always do.;)

But just to humor you, here:
http://www.babyinfocd.com/demo/greatfallsmt/assets/boottabs/small02/diagram.jpg

I do not understand. Where's the prostate?

I do not understand. Where's the prostate?

We do not have prostates, Gallo-dono.

We do not have prostates, Gallo-dono.

0% chance of getting prostate cancer. No wonder women live longer.

I do not understand. Where's the prostate?

Its behind you! This year's panto season took a mildly deviant twist.

We do not have prostates, Gallo-dono.

You DO have a female equivalent of a prostate. Do you know what it is?

You DO have a female equivalent of a prostate. Do you know what it is?

Equivalent, but not a prostate. And I think you're referring to the clitoris.

Equivalent, but not a prostate. And I think you're referring to the clitoris.

Indeed.. And where might you find that?

Indeed.. And where might you find that?

In between the major labia, right at the top. It's a small nub.

Indeed.. And where might you find that?

No-one knows. The truth is hidden by the shadowy secret organization known as the "Clitorati"

No-one knows. The truth is hidden by the shadowy secret organization known as the "Clitorati"

And they all wear secretive hoods?

And they all wear secretive hoods?

Much like the hood your avatar wears.

I was eating a bowl of curried lentils while reading this thread.

Now I look into the bowl, and it looks like I'm eating a bowl full of......

EEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!:eek:

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

... right...

... right...

What do you mean "... right...". By "we" you meant women, ... right...?

What do you mean "... right...". By "we" you meant women, ... right...?

Explain to me your post. You don't think women are enigmas because... you like to talk, so, talk.:wink:

I don't think that women are enigmas because i've come to realise that they will act in an irrational manner quite a lot of the time. I've also read the VAH (venetian arts handbook).

I don't think that women are enigmas because i've come to realise that they will act in an irrational manner quite a lot of the time.

You mean it's only a mystery if you're trying to find reason where there is none?

You mean it's only a mystery if you're trying to find reason where there is none?

Pretty much.

I demand more nuggets of such universal and insightful wisdom.

I am a bit like Confucius, i guess.

One thing to remember about women is that they always try to read things into your words that you haven't said. Not as much as NSG debaters, though.

Much like the hood your avatar wears.

Your clitoral hood is pointy, blue, and has little stars on it?

I've also read the VAH (venetian arts handbook).

You required a book in order to understand women?

Your clitoral hood is pointy, blue, and has little stars on it?

It's pointy, but pink. And it makes men see stars.

It's pointy, but pink. And it makes men see stars.

OMG, it's a pink taser! :p

OMG, it's a pink taser! :p

It is!:tongue:

It's pointy, but pink. And it makes men see stars.

Last time a girl made me see stars, it involved a fist, not a clit.

Last time a girl made me see stars, it involved a fist, not a clit.

A girl hit Darth Elmo?:eek2:

A girl hit Darth Elmo?:eek2:

I didn't say that. :p

I didn't say that. :p

:tongue:

:tongue:

Think I just disturbed the entire forum?

Think I just disturbed the entire forum?

You might've, but then again, that's one of your specialties, Dark Lord.:D