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Never has irony hit me so hard.
Irony? Where, in that post?

Irony? Where, in that post?

"u ppl are dumb"

"u ppl are dumb"
Okay, yeah, using txt-speak to call people dumb is pretty ironic. But the rest of what he/she had to say was pretty on the mark, I thought. Even with the errors.

Okay, yeah, using txt-speak to call people dumb is pretty ironic. But the rest of what he/she had to say was pretty on the mark, I thought. Even with the errors.

It did also demonstrate that the poster hadn't bothered to read the thread at all, or simply felt the need to unnecessarily point out the bloody obvious.

It did also demonstrate that the poster hadn't bothered to read the thread at all, or simply felt the need to unnecessarily point out the bloody obvious.

Have you read certian poster's posts since November 4th? I wouldnt say its "obvious" to everyone.:p

Have you read certian poster's posts since November 4th? I wouldnt say its "obvious" to everyone.:p

Well it should be.

Well it should be.

Oh, I agree. But see, you and I (and many of us) are educated, and thus aware of the mans limitations and live in the real world.

The posters in question are missing one of the above qualifications.

Oh, I agree. But see, you and I (and many of us) are educated, and thus aware of the mans limitations and live in the real world.

The posters in question are missing one of the above qualifications.

I still see no reason to send an idiot to catch an idiot.

Is Obama a failure as a president? Not yet, but stay tuned!!! The homosexuals seem to have a special place in his heart and in his agenda, according to the Obama White House web site. Seems to me there are more important things to do for the nation than to focus on 10% of the population...

From the White House web site

* Expand Hate Crimes Statutes: In 2004, crimes against LGBT Americans constituted the third-highest category of hate crime reported and made up more than 15 percent of such crimes. President Obama cosponsored legislation that would expand federal jurisdiction to include violent hate crimes perpetrated because of race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender identity, or physical disability. As a state senator, President Obama passed tough legislation that made hate crimes and conspiracy to commit them against the law.
* Fight Workplace Discrimination: President Obama supports the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, and believes that our anti-discrimination employment laws should be expanded to include sexual orientation and gender identity. While an increasing number of employers have extended benefits to their employees' domestic partners, discrimination based on sexual orientation in the workplace occurs with no federal legal remedy. The President also sponsored legislation in the Illinois State Senate that would ban employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
* Support Full Civil Unions and Federal Rights for LGBT Couples: President Obama supports full civil unions that give same-sex couples legal rights and privileges equal to those of married couples. Obama also believes we need to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act and enact legislation that would ensure that the 1,100+ federal legal rights and benefits currently provided on the basis of marital status are extended to same-sex couples in civil unions and other legally-recognized unions. These rights and benefits include the right to assist a loved one in times of emergency, the right to equal health insurance and other employment benefits, and property rights.
* Oppose a Constitutional Ban on Same-Sex Marriage: President Obama voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2006 which would have defined marriage as between a man and a woman and prevented judicial extension of marriage-like rights to same-sex or other unmarried couples.
* Repeal Don't Ask-Don't Tell: President Obama agrees with former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff John Shalikashvili and other military experts that we need to repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. The key test for military service should be patriotism, a sense of duty, and a willingness to serve. Discrimination should be prohibited. The U.S. government has spent millions of dollars replacing troops kicked out of the military because of their sexual orientation. Additionally, more than 300 language experts have been fired under this policy, including more than 50 who are fluent in Arabic. The President will work with military leaders to repeal the current policy and ensure it helps accomplish our national defense goals.
* Expand Adoption Rights: President Obama believes that we must ensure adoption rights for all couples and individuals, regardless of their sexual orientation. He thinks that a child will benefit from a healthy and loving home, whether the parents are gay or not.
* Promote AIDS Prevention: In the first year of his presidency, President Obama will develop and begin to implement a comprehensive national HIV/AIDS strategy that includes all federal agencies. The strategy will be designed to reduce HIV infections, increase access to care and reduce HIV-related health disparities. The President will support common sense approaches including age-appropriate sex education that includes information about contraception, combating infection within our prison population through education and contraception, and distributing contraceptives through our public health system. The President also supports lifting the federal ban on needle exchange, which could dramatically reduce rates of infection among drug users. President Obama has also been willing to confront the stigma -- too often tied to homophobia -- that continues to surround HIV/AIDS.
* Empower Women to Prevent HIV/AIDS: In the United States, the percentage of women diagnosed with AIDS has quadrupled over the last 20 years. Today, women account for more than one quarter of all new HIV/AIDS diagnoses. President Obama introduced the Microbicide Development Act, which will accelerate the development of products that empower women in the battle against AIDS. Microbicides are a class of products currently under development that women apply topically to prevent transmission of HIV and other infections.

Is Obama a failure as a president? Not yet, but stay tuned!!! The homosexuals seem to have a special place in his heart and in his agenda, according to the Obama White House web site. Seems to me there are more important things to do for the nation than to focus on 10%of the population...


Holy fucking God.


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Is Obama a failure as a president? Not yet, but stay tuned!!! The homosexuals seem to have a special place in his heart and in his agenda, according to the Obama White House web site. Seems to me there are more important things to do for the nation than to focus on 10% of the population...

From the White House web site

* Expand Hate Crimes Statutes: In 2004, crimes against LGBT Americans constituted the third-highest category of hate crime reported and made up more than 15 percent of such crimes. President Obama cosponsored legislation that would expand federal jurisdiction to include violent hate crimes perpetrated because of race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender identity, or physical disability. As a state senator, President Obama passed tough legislation that made hate crimes and conspiracy to commit them against the law.
* Fight Workplace Discrimination: President Obama supports the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, and believes that our anti-discrimination employment laws should be expanded to include sexual orientation and gender identity. While an increasing number of employers have extended benefits to their employees' domestic partners, discrimination based on sexual orientation in the workplace occurs with no federal legal remedy. The President also sponsored legislation in the Illinois State Senate that would ban employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
* Support Full Civil Unions and Federal Rights for LGBT Couples: President Obama supports full civil unions that give same-sex couples legal rights and privileges equal to those of married couples. Obama also believes we need to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act and enact legislation that would ensure that the 1,100+ federal legal rights and benefits currently provided on the basis of marital status are extended to same-sex couples in civil unions and other legally-recognized unions. These rights and benefits include the right to assist a loved one in times of emergency, the right to equal health insurance and other employment benefits, and property rights.
* Oppose a Constitutional Ban on Same-Sex Marriage: President Obama voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2006 which would have defined marriage as between a man and a woman and prevented judicial extension of marriage-like rights to same-sex or other unmarried couples.
* Repeal Don't Ask-Don't Tell: President Obama agrees with former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff John Shalikashvili and other military experts that we need to repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. The key test for military service should be patriotism, a sense of duty, and a willingness to serve. Discrimination should be prohibited. The U.S. government has spent millions of dollars replacing troops kicked out of the military because of their sexual orientation. Additionally, more than 300 language experts have been fired under this policy, including more than 50 who are fluent in Arabic. The President will work with military leaders to repeal the current policy and ensure it helps accomplish our national defense goals.
* Expand Adoption Rights: President Obama believes that we must ensure adoption rights for all couples and individuals, regardless of their sexual orientation. He thinks that a child will benefit from a healthy and loving home, whether the parents are gay or not.
* Promote AIDS Prevention: In the first year of his presidency, President Obama will develop and begin to implement a comprehensive national HIV/AIDS strategy that includes all federal agencies. The strategy will be designed to reduce HIV infections, increase access to care and reduce HIV-related health disparities. The President will support common sense approaches including age-appropriate sex education that includes information about contraception, combating infection within our prison population through education and contraception, and distributing contraceptives through our public health system. The President also supports lifting the federal ban on needle exchange, which could dramatically reduce rates of infection among drug users. President Obama has also been willing to confront the stigma -- too often tied to homophobia -- that continues to surround HIV/AIDS.
* Empower Women to Prevent HIV/AIDS: In the United States, the percentage of women diagnosed with AIDS has quadrupled over the last 20 years. Today, women account for more than one quarter of all new HIV/AIDS diagnoses. President Obama introduced the Microbicide Development Act, which will accelerate the development of products that empower women in the battle against AIDS. Microbicides are a class of products currently under development that women apply topically to prevent transmission of HIV and other infections.

I can only commend you for your impeccable timing.

I can only commend you for your impeccable timing.

Seriously. This guy a plant of yours Chris?:p

Seriously. This guy a plant of yours Chris?:p

Not at all. I'm actually laughing at this though:tongue:

Is Obama a failure as a president? Not yet, but stay tuned!!! The homosexuals seem to have a special place in his heart and in his agenda, according to the Obama White House web site. Seems to me there are more important things to do for the nation than to focus on 10% of the population...

From the White House web site

* Expand Hate Crimes Statutes: In 2004, crimes against LGBT Americans constituted the third-highest category of hate crime reported and made up more than 15 percent of such crimes. President Obama cosponsored legislation that would expand federal jurisdiction to include violent hate crimes perpetrated because of race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender identity, or physical disability. As a state senator, President Obama passed tough legislation that made hate crimes and conspiracy to commit them against the law.
* Fight Workplace Discrimination: President Obama supports the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, and believes that our anti-discrimination employment laws should be expanded to include sexual orientation and gender identity. While an increasing number of employers have extended benefits to their employees' domestic partners, discrimination based on sexual orientation in the workplace occurs with no federal legal remedy. The President also sponsored legislation in the Illinois State Senate that would ban employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
* Support Full Civil Unions and Federal Rights for LGBT Couples: President Obama supports full civil unions that give same-sex couples legal rights and privileges equal to those of married couples. Obama also believes we need to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act and enact legislation that would ensure that the 1,100+ federal legal rights and benefits currently provided on the basis of marital status are extended to same-sex couples in civil unions and other legally-recognized unions. These rights and benefits include the right to assist a loved one in times of emergency, the right to equal health insurance and other employment benefits, and property rights.
* Oppose a Constitutional Ban on Same-Sex Marriage: President Obama voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2006 which would have defined marriage as between a man and a woman and prevented judicial extension of marriage-like rights to same-sex or other unmarried couples.
* Repeal Don't Ask-Don't Tell: President Obama agrees with former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff John Shalikashvili and other military experts that we need to repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. The key test for military service should be patriotism, a sense of duty, and a willingness to serve. Discrimination should be prohibited. The U.S. government has spent millions of dollars replacing troops kicked out of the military because of their sexual orientation. Additionally, more than 300 language experts have been fired under this policy, including more than 50 who are fluent in Arabic. The President will work with military leaders to repeal the current policy and ensure it helps accomplish our national defense goals.
* Expand Adoption Rights: President Obama believes that we must ensure adoption rights for all couples and individuals, regardless of their sexual orientation. He thinks that a child will benefit from a healthy and loving home, whether the parents are gay or not.
* Promote AIDS Prevention: In the first year of his presidency, President Obama will develop and begin to implement a comprehensive national HIV/AIDS strategy that includes all federal agencies. The strategy will be designed to reduce HIV infections, increase access to care and reduce HIV-related health disparities. The President will support common sense approaches including age-appropriate sex education that includes information about contraception, combating infection within our prison population through education and contraception, and distributing contraceptives through our public health system. The President also supports lifting the federal ban on needle exchange, which could dramatically reduce rates of infection among drug users. President Obama has also been willing to confront the stigma -- too often tied to homophobia -- that continues to surround HIV/AIDS.
* Empower Women to Prevent HIV/AIDS: In the United States, the percentage of women diagnosed with AIDS has quadrupled over the last 20 years. Today, women account for more than one quarter of all new HIV/AIDS diagnoses. President Obama introduced the Microbicide Development Act, which will accelerate the development of products that empower women in the battle against AIDS. Microbicides are a class of products currently under development that women apply topically to prevent transmission of HIV and other infections.
thats the kind of thing im hoping he gets to as soon as possible.

thats the kind of thing im hoping he gets to as soon as possible.

I love how the poster insinuates that empowering women is not only part of the "homosexual agenda", but that its a bad thing.

Because we all know that any woman who does anything but homemaker/housewife/baby factory is probably a lesbian.

I love how the poster insinuates that empowering women is not only part of the "homosexual agenda", but that its a bad thing.

Because we all know that any woman who does anything but homemaker/housewife/baby factory is probably a lesbian.
it almost goes without saying.

I love how the poster insinuates that empowering women is not only part of the "homosexual agenda", but that its a bad thing.

Because we all know that any woman who does anything but homemaker/housewife/baby factory is probably a lesbian.

Even a communist. I've heard they don't even go to church.

Poor Obama...he can't get a break. The guy works hard to get something beneficial done and people still shit on him because it's not perfect.

thats the kind of thing im hoping he gets to as soon as possible.

Getting two gays hitched legally is a more pressing issue than putting millions of Americans back to work. Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

Poor Obama...he can't get a break. The guy works hard to get something beneficial done and people still shit on him because it's not perfect.
yeah poor thing. he has to put up with being the most powerful person in the world, the adoration of millions, the constant pressure of having the coolest famous people want to meet him and the mrs.

poor thing.

Getting two gays hitched legally is a more pressing issue than putting millions of Americans back to work. Yeah, right. :rolleyes:
its a big government. they can do more than one thing at a time.

good thing considering how much has to be fixed from the disaster of the bush administration.

yeah poor thing. he has to put up with being the most powerful person in the world, the adoration of millions, the constant pressure of having the coolest famous people want to meet him and the mrs.

poor thing.

I can say with 100% confidence that I would not want to be in his position. The pressure of politics is a little too much for me.

However, people really need to grow up and realize he's not going to make miracles happen overnight if at all...all he can do is the best he can with the given political environment.

Getting two gays hitched legally is a more pressing issue than putting millions of Americans back to work. Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

If Bush can multitask, Im sure Obama can.

Dont pretend like you are worried about priorities. Youre worried that those icky fags might destroy the sanctity of marriage.

yeah poor thing. he has to put up with being the most powerful person in the world, the adoration of millions, the constant pressure of having the coolest famous people want to meet him and the mrs.

poor thing.

Yeah, and on top of that, he has millions of people's lives and lively hood hanging on his every decision.

There is a reason the presidency ages people like milk. The above portrayal isnt really fair.

Dont pretend like you are worried about priorities. Youre worried that those icky fags might destroy the sanctity of marriage.

Not to mention that 10% of the population is one of the wealthiest, most educated segments...

its a big government. they can do more than one thing at a time.

Spoken like a true liberal and gay rights supporter. The bigger, the better, huh?

From the White House web site

* Expand Hate Crimes Statutes: In 2004, crimes against LGBT Americans constituted the third-highest category of hate crime reported and made up more than 15 percent of such crimes. President Obama cosponsored legislation that would expand federal jurisdiction to include violent hate crimes perpetrated because of race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender identity, or physical disability. As a state senator, President Obama passed tough legislation that made hate crimes and conspiracy to commit them against the law.
* Fight Workplace Discrimination: President Obama supports the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, and believes that our anti-discrimination employment laws should be expanded to include sexual orientation and gender identity. While an increasing number of employers have extended benefits to their employees' domestic partners, discrimination based on sexual orientation in the workplace occurs with no federal legal remedy. The President also sponsored legislation in the Illinois State Senate that would ban employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
* Support Full Civil Unions and Federal Rights for LGBT Couples: President Obama supports full civil unions that give same-sex couples legal rights and privileges equal to those of married couples. Obama also believes we need to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act and enact legislation that would ensure that the 1,100+ federal legal rights and benefits currently provided on the basis of marital status are extended to same-sex couples in civil unions and other legally-recognized unions. These rights and benefits include the right to assist a loved one in times of emergency, the right to equal health insurance and other employment benefits, and property rights.
* Oppose a Constitutional Ban on Same-Sex Marriage: President Obama voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2006 which would have defined marriage as between a man and a woman and prevented judicial extension of marriage-like rights to same-sex or other unmarried couples.
* Repeal Don't Ask-Don't Tell: President Obama agrees with former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff John Shalikashvili and other military experts that we need to repeal the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. The key test for military service should be patriotism, a sense of duty, and a willingness to serve. Discrimination should be prohibited. The U.S. government has spent millions of dollars replacing troops kicked out of the military because of their sexual orientation. Additionally, more than 300 language experts have been fired under this policy, including more than 50 who are fluent in Arabic. The President will work with military leaders to repeal the current policy and ensure it helps accomplish our national defense goals.
* Expand Adoption Rights: President Obama believes that we must ensure adoption rights for all couples and individuals, regardless of their sexual orientation. He thinks that a child will benefit from a healthy and loving home, whether the parents are gay or not.
* Promote AIDS Prevention: In the first year of his presidency, President Obama will develop and begin to implement a comprehensive national HIV/AIDS strategy that includes all federal agencies. The strategy will be designed to reduce HIV infections, increase access to care and reduce HIV-related health disparities. The President will support common sense approaches including age-appropriate sex education that includes information about contraception, combating infection within our prison population through education and contraception, and distributing contraceptives through our public health system. The President also supports lifting the federal ban on needle exchange, which could dramatically reduce rates of infection among drug users. President Obama has also been willing to confront the stigma -- too often tied to homophobia -- that continues to surround HIV/AIDS.
* Empower Women to Prevent HIV/AIDS: In the United States, the percentage of women diagnosed with AIDS has quadrupled over the last 20 years. Today, women account for more than one quarter of all new HIV/AIDS diagnoses. President Obama introduced the Microbicide Development Act, which will accelerate the development of products that empower women in the battle against AIDS. Microbicides are a class of products currently under development that women apply topically to prevent transmission of HIV and other infections.
Yeah, that's what I'm talkin' about! Change I can believe in! Fuck yeah! :D

Seriously, I nothing wrong and everything right in that list. What else have they go?

Spoken like a true liberal and gay rights supporter.

The horror.

I love how you threw that out there like an insult.

The bigger, the better, huh?

Thats what the gays tell me.

I can say with 100% confidence that I would not want to be in his position. The pressure of politics is a little too much for me.

However, people really need to grow up and realize he's not going to make miracles happen overnight if at all...all he can do is the best he can with the given political environment.
i would never want the job either.

but he is doing a very good job. i love to listen to his public speeches and he has an agenda that adds a bit of hope to this bleak season of economic woes.

i mean, remember when "we" were bitching about him forgiving liebermann and aghast that he would support him keeping his committe chairs? well, lieberman not only voted with the democrats in the senate, he played an important role in getting the stimulus bill compromised on so that it would be passed. if he had been dissed that might not have happened.

it almost goes without saying.
I could certainly live with no one saying/implying it. ;) :D

Spoken like a true liberal and gay rights supporter. The bigger, the better, huh?
the bigger the gay?

Getting two gays hitched legally is a more pressing issue than putting millions of Americans back to work. Yeah, right. :rolleyes:
Of course. That's why it was done before passage of the economic stimulus bill.

Oh, wait...

Spoken like a true liberal and gay rights supporter. The bigger, the better, huh?

Right. You see, I loathe unnecessary government, and government intervention in private matters, yet I support "gay rights" and would be deemed socially "liberal". How odd.

I love how you threw that out there like an insult.

Oh God! A another lib got their feelings hurt. Get a bill introduced in Congress to stop hurting feelings.

Right. You see, I loathe unnecessary government, and government intervention in private matters, yet I support "gay rights" and would be deemed socially "liberal". How odd.

Didnt you know? Just because you are consistant with not wanting the government to interfere, that means you are essentially a communist. Didnt you get that memo?

Oh God! A another lib got their feelings hurt.

Whose feelings are hurt?

Get a bill introduced in Congress to stop hurting feelings.

At least my party is politically relevent enough right now where a bill we introduce might actually get passed:D

Whose feelings are hurt?
Yours. Didn't you notice? If not, it's just because you're a big dufus gay-not-hating lib, you libby-lib you. Everybody knows "liberal" and "gay rights supporter" are the most withering insults that can ever be hurled. You're withering but you're too liberal to know it. ;)

At least my party is politically relevent enough right now where a bill we introduce might actually get passed:D
Oh, snap.

Oh God! A another lib got their feelings hurt. Get a bill introduced in Congress to stop hurting feelings.

I don't think you hurt his feelings. I think you tried to, but failed miserably though. I mean, insults like "wow, I guess you support GAY RIGHTS huh, don't you" isn't really that insulting. It's sorta a "yes, yes I do...why don't you?"

At least my party is politically relevent enough right now where a bill we introduce might actually get passed:D

Yeah, now ALL the blood will be on the Dems hands. That's something to be real proud of. :rolleyes:

Yeah, now ALL the blood will be on the Dems hands. That's something to be real proud of. :rolleyes:

Im just going to let this sit there. Anything I say will just dimish how stupid this is:D

You know what might make you feel better? Call Limbaugh's show tomorrow. Cry on his shoulder about the big mean leftists. Then have a PBR.

Yeah, now ALL the blood will be on the Dems hands.

What blood are we talking about? Are you still prattling on about gays? You know, anal sex is pretty safe if done correctly. Did you have a 'bad experience"?

Maybe next time try pitching, and not catching.

Actually, scratch that, not with those anger issues.

Actually, scratch that, not with those anger issues.

Didnt you read his comment though? Even if he did inflict wounds on his partner, the blood would still be on our hands!:eek:

Whose feelings are hurt?



At least my party is politically relevent enough right now where a bill we introduce might actually get passed:D
did you see SNL last night with dan ackryod as john boehner?

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/republican-meeting-open/1018742/

You know what might make you feel better? Call Limbaugh's show tomorrow. Cry on his shoulder about the big mean leftists. Then have a PBR.

You could call the liberal Air America, too. Oh, wait!!! That's right, they filed Chapter 11.

You could call the liberal Air America, too. Oh, wait!!! That's right, they filed Chapter 11.

OHHHH! You need some ice for that burn KoL?


sick burn, bro. Sick burn.

You could call the liberal Air America, too. Oh, wait!!! That's right, they filed Chapter 11.

What? Liberal Air America?

So, after Obama's stimulus bill was passed, how much of your PBR was beer and how much of it was your tears?

Whats awesome is, my comments reminding him what part of the political spectrum is in charge seem to actually be getting under his skin.

You could call the liberal Air America, too. Oh, wait!!! That's right, they filed Chapter 11.

put THAT in your pipe and smoke it! Not as many people listen to liberal talk shows! I guess you LIBERALS don't need to...listen to people who think like you do...in order to feel validated...

So yeah, take THAT!

Stupid LIBERALS, nobody likes you! Except, you know, the majority of america....but other than that!

FORT SUMPTER!!!!!

What? Liberal Air America?

So, after Obama's stimulus bill was passed, how much of your PBR was beer and how much of it was your tears?

I know you have a quick temper, KoL, but why do you even bother? He is probably 14 and raised on the Bible and conservative radio. How would it look if you were debating him face-to-face?

Didnt you read his comment though? Even if he did inflict wounds on his partner, the blood would still be on our hands!:eek:
That guy is kinkier than me, that's for sure.

I know you have a quick temper, KoL, but why do you even bother? He is probably 14 and raised on the Bible and conservative radio.
Temper? Dude, Im laughing:D I toy with trolls when there is no real intellectually stimulating debate to be had atm;)
How would it look if you were debating him face-to-face?
Probably like this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/03/uk_enl_1063882019/img/1.jpg

Whats awesome is, my comments reminding him what part of the political spectrum is in charge seem to actually be getting under his skin.

Nah, it doesn't get under my skin, guy. I'm glad the Democrats got the stimulous package passed. Maybe all the funding for those green golf carts that were tucked away in that package could put millions of people to work. Of course, millions more won't have the money to play golf. But, we've saved the environment, by God. :rolleyes:

put THAT in your pipe and smoke it! Not as many people listen to liberal talk shows! I guess you LIBERALS don't need to...listen to people who think like you do...in order to feel validated...

So yeah, take THAT!

Silly, the fact that Air America wasn't popular is proof that liberals are a teeny, tiny, crazy minority, and the majority of the country is actually religious conservatives whose greatest fear is that they might someday, somehow come in contact with a gay person and have gayness rubbed off on them! That's why Republicans have totally dominated the last two elections, and our democratically-elected government is currently led by conservatives....oh, wait. Hmm.

Well, okay, but YOU STILL DON'T HATE GAY PEOPLE! OH SNAP!

Temper? Dude, Im laughing:D I toy with trolls when there is no real intellectually stimulating debate to be had atm;)

It seemed like you became a tad upset when a certain thread attacked abortion a while back....

This poster will not last long on NSG. You could just let him go, though I must admit you have made some humorous comments. Probably like this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/03/uk_enl_1063882019/img/1.jpg

:D

Nah, it doesn't get under my skin, guy. I'm glad the Democrats got the stimulous package passed. Maybe all the funding for those green golf carts that were tucked away in that package could put millions of people to work.
Well, we have to research and develop them and then build them. Thats work. And then sell them. Which stimulates the economy.
Of course, millions more won't have the money to play golf.
Millions already cant. The stimulus package wont make people poorer.
But, we've saved the environment, by God. :rolleyes:
What a terrible, terrible achievement.

It seemed like you became a tad upset when a certain thread attacked abortion a while back....

I do have a quick temper, but it takes a lot more then a novice troll to anger me. :D

I do have a quick temper, but it takes a lot more then a novice troll to anger me. :D

I wouldn't say you have a quick temper. A bit childish at times, but harmless.

I wouldn't say you have a quick temper. A bit childish at times, but harmless.

In eight posts you can judge me over the internet? What other super powers do you have?

In eight posts you can judge me over the internet? What other super powers do you have?

x-ray vision. But it only works in total darkness

In eight posts you can judge me over the internet? What other super powers do you have?

"Super powers"? And you ask me how I can call you childish after 8 posts.

"Super powers"? And you ask me how I can call you childish after 8 posts.

Adults acting a bit childish at times is how we got Family Guy.

In fact, thats how we get most comedy.

"Super powers"? And you ask me how I can call you childish after 8 posts.

Yes. Just saying the phrase "Super powers" clearly renders one 6 years old. Particularly while mocking someone.

Yes. Just saying the phrase "Super powers" clearly renders one 6 years old. Particularly while mocking someone.

doo-doo head.

Adults acting a bit childish at times is how we got Family Guy.

In fact, thats how we get most comedy.

I'm just messing with you, guy. You've actually made some good points. Believe me, I really do hope Obama and the Democratic Congress gets some things done for the good of the nation. It's tough for a lot of people right now. But, I do think the economy is much more important than forcing the nation to accept the gay lifestyle. That was my original point.

I'm just messing with you, guy. You've actually made some good points. Believe me, I really do hope Obama and the Democratic Congress gets some things done for the good of the nation. It's tough for a lot of people right now. But, I do think the economy is much more important than forcing the nation to accept the gay lifestyle. That was my original point.
oh dont worry. you wont have to BE gay. thats not what its all about. if you dont want sex with men, you dont have to have any.

Yes. Just saying the phrase "Super powers" clearly renders one 6 years old. Particularly while mocking someone.

at what point do you think they realize, we're not laughing with them?

doo-doo head.
I'm telling mom.
at what point do you think they realize, we're not laughing with them?

That would require that they can actually precieve reality which, given their other viewpoints, they clearly can't do.

I'm just messing with you, guy. You've actually made some good points. Believe me, I really do hope Obama and the Democratic Congress gets some things done for the good of the nation. It's tough for a lot of people right now. But, I do think the economy is much more important than forcing the nation to accept the gay lifestyle. That was my original point.
Fair enough. After we get through the economic crisis, we will go back to explaining to you how not allowing you to discriminate against people =/= forcing you to accept the gay lifestyle.

oh dont worry. you wont have to BE gay. thats not what its all about. if you dont want sex with men, you dont have to have any.

Ashmoria, you're not looking at the bigger picture here. If Obama has his way and legalizes gay unions across the nation, it DOES affect me. I am a business owner, which means that I would have to provide health benefits to any future gay employees and their partners. If I have to provide those health benefits, it costs me out of pocket. But, as a business owner, I can't eat those costs. So, I, along with every other business in the nation will simply pass the cost along to the customer. It's not as simple as what you make it out to be.

Ashmoria, you're not looking at the bigger picture here. If Obama has his way and legalizes gay unions across the nation, it DOES affect me. I am a business owner, which means that I would have to provide health benefits to any future gay employees and their partners. If I have to provide those health benefits, it costs me out of pocket. But, as a business owner, I can't eat those costs. So, I, along with every other business in the nation will simply pass the cost along to the customer. It's not as simple as what you make it out to be.

Imagine that. you'll have to treat the fags as if they were equal to your other employees. The shame. The horror.

Ashmoria, you're not looking at the bigger picture here. If Obama has his way and legalizes gay unions across the nation, it DOES affect me. I am a business owner, which means that I would have to provide health benefits to any future gay employees and their partners. If I have to provide those health benefits, it costs me out of pocket. But, as a business owner, I can't eat those costs. So, I, along with every other business in the nation will simply pass the cost along to the customer. It's not as simple as what you make it out to be.
You know what else might save you money? If you picked which of your employees you would not offer benefits to based on whether they were black, or Jewish, or female, or older.

You know, someone who wasn't just looking for a justification for being bigoted towards gays would likely see the high cost of employment-based health insurance as a good reason to lobby for nationalized health care.

Imagine that. you'll have to treat the fags as if they were equal to your other employees. The shame. The horror.

the subtle attraction that you don't really talk about with anyone, but at night when you're alone you think about....

Ashmoria, you're not looking at the bigger picture here. If Obama has his way and legalizes gay unions across the nation, it DOES affect me. I am a business owner, which means that I would have to provide health benefits to any future gay employees and their partners. If I have to provide those health benefits, it costs me out of pocket. But, as a business owner, I can't eat those costs. So, I, along with every other business in the nation will simply pass the cost along to the customer. It's not as simple as what you make it out to be.

Speaking as a customer, I am totally okay with having the cost of providing health insurance to all your employees, not just the ones you personally like, passed along to me, given that that's, you know, what any halfway decent business owner would do.

Fair enough. After we get through the economic crisis, we will go back to explaining to you how not allowing you to discriminate against people =/= forcing you to accept the gay lifestyle.

Sodom and Gomorrah tried to force God to accept the gay lifestyle, too.

the subtle attraction that you don't really talk about with anyone, but at night when you're alone you think about....

Come to the dark side. The parties are fabulous. And those sequins...

Ashmoria, you're not looking at the bigger picture here. If Obama has his way and legalizes gay unions across the nation, it DOES affect me. I am a business owner, which means that I would have to provide health benefits to any future gay employees and their partners. If I have to provide those health benefits, it costs me out of pocket. But, as a business owner, I can't eat those costs. So, I, along with every other business in the nation will simply pass the cost along to the customer. It's not as simple as what you make it out to be.

Frankly speaking, finding out that a business owner doesn't already provide those benefits is a major factor in whether or not they get my business..

Also, I highly doubt the above is true.

Sodom and Gomorrah tried to force God to accept the gay lifestyle, too.

What a terrible arguement.

Might hold water if I cared what the Judeo-Christian god, a genocidal tyrant, thought.

Or at the very least if I believed in him:p

Sodom and Gomorrah tried to force God to accept the gay lifestyle, too.

yeah, and look what happened to THOSE faggots.

In your FACE

Sodom and Gomorrah tried to force God to accept the gay lifestyle, too.

Oddly enough, the "gay lifestyle" actually very rarely involves raping angels. Go figure!

yeah, and look what happened to THOSE faggots.

In your FACE

I hear the faggots like it in their face.

Speaking as a customer, I am totally okay with having the cost of providing health insurance to all your employees, not just the ones you personally like, passed along to me, given that that's, you know, what any halfway decent business owner would do.

Good, then you can also pay for those employees who have drug and alcohol addictions, emotional disorders, and mental health disorders, too. Any halfway decent customer should be willing to do that. :rolleyes:

Ashmoria, you're not looking at the bigger picture here. If Obama has his way and legalizes gay unions across the nation, it DOES affect me. I am a business owner, which means that I would have to provide health benefits to any future gay employees and their partners. If I have to provide those health benefits, it costs me out of pocket. But, as a business owner, I can't eat those costs. So, I, along with every other business in the nation will simply pass the cost along to the customer. It's not as simple as what you make it out to be.
do you hire so very many gay people that it will hurt you to offer insurance to their spouses?

seems a bit ....silly... since you have a much bigger payout for straights and their sad tendency to breed.

Good, then you can also pay for those employees who have drug and alcohol addictions, emotional disorders, and mental health disorders, too.

We already do by your logic. Well, provided its covered by their health insurance.

Sodom and Gomorrah tried to force God to accept the gay lifestyle, too.
no they didnt. you really might want to read through that part of the bible again

What a terrible arguement.

Might hold water if I cared what the Judeo-Christian god, a genocidal tyrant, thought.

Or at the very least if I believed in him:p

Right, I would never try to force you to believe in something you don't believe in, KL. This is my point. I shouldn't be forced to accept the homosexual lifestyle.

Good, then you can also pay for those employees who have drug and alcohol addictions, emotional disorders, and mental health disorders, too. Any halfway decent customer should be willing to do that. :rolleyes:

...you know, this argument would have been a wee bit better if you weren't making it to someone who's been quite open about her bipolar disorder on these forums. Oh no, not treating mental disorders like they matter! The horror!

Oddly enough, the "gay lifestyle" actually very rarely involves raping angels. Go figure!
*sigh*

If only...
Good, then you can also pay for those employees who have drug and alcohol addictions, emotional disorders, and mental health disorders, too. Any halfway decent customer should be willing to do that. :rolleyes:

Yes. Treating the queers like humans is identical to paying for rehab for those with drug addictions.

and actually, we do, depending upon the health insurance you provide.

Right, I would never try to force you to believe in something you don't believe in, KL. This is my point. I shouldn't be forced to accept the homosexual lifestyle.

Whether you accept it or not is irrelevent to the Constitution and their rights.

I dont get to deny you and your spouse health insurance because of your religion. I would never want to, even if I could. Thats what makes us different. I dont think its ok for people who live a way I dont think they should to be treated like second class citizens.

do you hire so very many gay people that it will hurt you to offer insurance to their spouses?

seems a bit ....silly... since you have a much bigger payout for straights and their sad tendency to breed.

Are you gay, Ashmoria?

Right, I would never try to force you to believe in something you don't believe in, KL. This is my point. I shouldn't be forced to accept the homosexual lifestyle.
as i said before you dont have to BE gay. you just have to follow the law and let gay people live their own lives like anyone else.

Sodom and Gomorrah tried to force God to accept the gay lifestyle, too.
Ah, comedy. :D

I have never read any version of that story that said anything even remotely like an implication that the people of Sodom and Gomorrah were trying to foist teh ghay on God. I was not aware that the people of Sodom and Gomorrah knew the guests were angels from God.

Nope, I'm going to call your answer bullshit, indicative that you have no real defense of your original statements, equivalent to you conceding the point.

Thanks. *marks scoreboard* Next.

Are you gay, Ashmoria?
nope

Right, I would never try to force you to believe in something you don't believe in, KL. This is my point. I shouldn't be forced to accept the homosexual lifestyle.

You don't have to accept it. No one is making you take it up the ass. No one is making you marry a dude. We are simply allowing them to do that if they so choose. Frankly, whom they marry is not your business.

Sodom and Gomorrah tried to force God to accept the gay lifestyle, too.

Hitler killed gays too.

See, I can stoop to your level. Can YOU rise to MINE?

Whether you accept it or not is irrelevent to Constitution and their rights.

I dont get to deny you and your spouse health insurance because of your religion.

Are you gay, KL?

Good, then you can also pay for those employees who have drug and alcohol addictions, emotional disorders, and mental health disorders, too. Any halfway decent customer should be willing to do that. :rolleyes:
I notice that you ignored my comment about how all these costs would be a good reason for an employer to support nationalized healthcare, rather than just choose to discriminate against some people.

Are you gay, KL?

Before you ask, no, I'm not gay. And I'll gladly have sex with a cute Asian woman to prove it. :p

Are you gay, KL?

No.

Why are you asking those of us who defend gay rights if we are gay? Im not a Christian, but I would defend your rights if they were being stepped on.

nope

Then, why are you taking up their cause?

Are you gay, KL?

...are you going to ask each person in this conversation if they're gay individually? And to what point and purpose?

No.

Why are you asking those of us who defend gay rights if we are gay? Im not a Christian, but I would defend your rights if they were being stepped on.

I just don't understand why people who are straight take up gay causes.

Are you gay, KL?
Just to save you time, I'm not gay, either. Are you going to go through every member of the forum? And what will you do when someone says they are gay? Type a big red "AHA!!"?

Then, why are you taking up their cause?

Ah. Right. Gotcha.

Because human rights impact everyone. Because some dislike the fact that while they enjoy the right to be a full citizen, others cannot. Because some people are sick of watching others be kicked to the curb. Because some people understand that when one of us is dehumanized, we all suffer.

Then, why are you taking up their cause?

Ash, would you give me the honor of answering this one for you?

Then, why are you taking up their cause?
because everyone deserves human rights. because the more freedom "you" get, the more free *I* am. because i know many gay people.

because its right.

I just don't understand why people who are straight take up gay causes.

Because they're not "gay" causes.

They're HUMAN causes. And we take them because we're HUMAN.

I just don't understand why people who are straight take up gay causes.

Because they aren't "gay" causes any more than civil rights were "black" rights.

Ash, would you give me the honor of answering this one for you?
awwww i was typing as you were posting.

but i would be honored to have you respond for me too.

I just don't understand why people who are straight take up gay causes.
We take up gay causes for the same reason white people joined the cause against racial segregation, for the same reason men take up the cause of women's rights -- because the rights of the minority ARE the rights of the majority. If one group is not safe, then no group is. They are our fellow citizens and fellow human beings, and as Americans, we stand up to fight for truth, justice and the American Way, with liberty and justice for all.

(cliches added for emphasis.)

I just don't understand why people who are straight take up gay causes.

Because I believe in human rights, equality, civil liberties, and the law.

Id defend your rights if they were being stepped on. I wonder if youd question me over it then?

"Where the rule of law ends, tyranny begins." Thats Locke. The founders loved him.

Sodom and Gomorrah tried to force God to accept the gay lifestyle, too.

Whoa, you are God? That explains why everything is so shitty.

Then, why are you taking up their cause?

......because we're decent human beings?

I mean, what the hell, dude? "Are you a child? If not, why do you object to child abuse? Are you a black person? If not, why do you object to lynchings?" I am utterly flabbergasted by the idea that you cannot understand why anyone would care about people other than themselves.

Ah. Right. Gotcha.

Because human rights impact everyone. Because some dislike the fact that while they enjoy the right to be a full citizen, others cannot. Because some people are sick of watching others be kicked to the curb. Because some people understand that when one of us is dehumanized, we all suffer.

...and force me to accept it with open arms.

...and force me to accept it with open arms.

Just like I am "forced" to "accept" you being Christian.

The difference is, that doesnt bother me. Thats what makes us different.

Someone is a little too obsessed about gays! *nod*

< Not gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that! :P

...and force me to accept it with open arms.
Do you think if you keep repeating this lie we'll suddenly someday believe it?

Not allowing you to discriminate against people =/= forcing you to accept their lifestyle "with open arms".

All you would be losing is the ability to get away with treating other people like shit. Do you really want to keep that ability?

...and force me to accept it with open arms.

Nah, you can close your arms. You can even make mean faces. Heck, if you like, you can post stupid comments on internet forums about the horrors of the "gay lifestyle." You just can't legally discriminate against gay people.

Just like I am "forced" to "accept" you being Christian.

The difference is, that doesnt bother me. Thats what makes us different.

You are not being forced to pay for me to be a Christian, LB.

I just don't understand why people who are straight take up gay causes.

I take it that you believe that whites should have no qualms about slavery?

Someone is a little too obsessed about gays! *nod*

< Not gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that! :P
Heh, methinks the poster doth protest too much, eh?

I don't mean to imply anything by that, of course. I'm sure he's a big strong he-man. I'm just saying...the protesting is rather noticeable.

...and force me to accept it with open arms.
its not like you are forced to have gay friends or go to gay weddings. the law cant even force you to accept your gay son.

it only acknowleges that gay people have the same rights as everyone else. thats not a bad thing.

You are not being forced to pay for me to be a Christian, LB.

Actually, I am. Just look at how much tax payer money is given to faith based groups. Churches are also tax exempt. Who do you think picks up the slack for that loss of potential revenue?

...and force me to accept it with open arms.

No. I expect that you will follow the law. That is, when you have a gay employee, you will pay the insurance of their spouse. No different than what you would do for your straight employee. This doesn't imply that you approve of or accept the relationship any more than you paying the insurance of your employees husband who beats the shit out of her every night.

You can frown on the relationship. You can make it well known that you frown upon it. But they can make the adult decision to have it.

You are not being forced to pay for me to be a Christian, LB.

And you are not in any way being forced to pay for people being gay - or do you think health insurance for a gay partner magically costs more than for a straight partner?

Actually, I am. Just look at how much tax payer money is given to faith based groups. Churches are also tax exempt. Who do you think picks up the slack for that loss of potential revenue?
all those church buildings that are exempt from taxation! we have to take up the slack.

And you are not in any way being forced to pay for people being gay - or do you think health insurance for a gay partner magically costs more than for a straight partner?

Didnt you know queers get sick more?

awwww i was typing as you were posting.

but i would be honored to have you respond for me too.

Splendid.

To whoever in this forum may have felt annoyed by my issues with Iraq, I apologize. Allow me to do something that, while it might not rekindle the respect you once had for me, would at least hopefully be fitting as a good moment.

Then, why are you taking up their cause?

***O Speaker! He who seeks the truth, through reason and enlightenment! Air and Light! Cross through the depths of ignorance, destroy it!***

***Technique Number three! SEVENTH FLUSH!***

Because Ashmoria is concerned that her own rights, not as a gay, which she's not, but as a human being, might one day be threatened.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that as church and state move closer, people like her or people she knows - or even others - might become targeted by the theocracy your kind is trying to turn her country into.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that people, good, decent people, are suffering only so people like YOU can have their whims and insecurities catered to.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that discrimination, a phenomenon that happened in her time, is happening again.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that attacking gays will send a message down the road that there are acceptable targets for scorn and discrimination regardless of them harming anyone or not.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that her country needs to evolve enough to look past this kind of difference.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that her very status as a human being might come into question if she doesn't support that, given that what makes us truly human is the ability to care about our neighbors, regardless of differences.

***Seventh Flush. Seven points, with the same beginning, driven towards one conclusion.***

Your move, sir?

Splendid.

To whoever in this forum may have felt annoyed by my issues with Iraq, I apologize. Allow me to do something that, while it might not rekindle the respect you once had for me, would at least hopefully be fitting as a good moment.



***O Speaker! He who seeks the truth, through reason and enlightenment! Air and Light! Cross through the depths of ignorance, destroy it!***

***Technique Number three! SEVENTH FLUSH!***

Because Ashmoria is concerned that her own rights, not as a gay, which she's not, but as a human being, might one day be threatened.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that as church and state move closer, people like her or people she knows - or even others - might become targeted by the theocracy your kind is trying to turn her country into.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that people, good, decent people, are suffering only so people like YOU can have their whims and insecurities catered to.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that discrimination, a phenomenon that happened in her time, is happening again.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that attacking gays will send a message down the road that there are acceptable targets for scorn and discrimination regardless of them harming anyone or not.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that her country needs to evolve enough to look past this kind of difference.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that her very status as a human being might come into question if she doesn't support that, given that what makes us truly human is the ability to care about our neighbors, regardless of differences.

***Seventh Flush. Seven points, with the same beginning, driven towards one conclusion.***

Your move, sir?

Your melodramatic arguements make me smile.

Actually, I am. Just look at how much tax payer money is given to faith based groups. Churches are also tax exempt. Who do you think picks up the slack for that loss of potential revenue?

I agree with you on that, LB. I was TOTALLY against giving money to faith-based groups. I thought it set a bad precedent and I still believe it's unconstitutional.

Didnt you know queers get sick more?

The worst part is that I'm afraid he might actually believe that.

Your melodramatic arguements make me smile.

If it stupid and it works, it's not stupid.

Does it work? :p

Edit: I was going more for "anime" than for "melodrama" per se, by the way. Still.

The worst part is that I'm afraid he might actually believe that.

I think what he is worried about is that all these companies that have gay employees now, but arent paying them benefits, will have to start, which will eat into their profit margin.

To which I just respond "boo-fucking-hoo", but I think thats the general arguement being made.

I agree with you on that, LB. I was TOTALLY against giving money to faith-based groups. I thought it set a bad precedent and I still believe it's unconstitutional.

oh god help us, he thinks he's a lawyer too.

I think what he is worried about is that all these companies that have gay employees now, but arent paying them benefits, will have to start, which will eat into their profit margin.

To which I just respond "boo-fucking-hoo", but I think thats the general arguement being made.

I think it probably is, too, which is fairly hilarious insofar as I really, really doubt he refuses to employ married people, or people with children, who obviously cost him more than single people. Why should he pay for people being straight, huh? :p

Splendid.

To whoever in this forum may have felt annoyed by my issues with Iraq, I apologize. Allow me to do something that, while it might not rekindle the respect you once had for me, would at least hopefully be fitting as a good moment.



***O Speaker! He who seeks the truth, through reason and enlightenment! Air and Light! Cross through the depths of ignorance, destroy it!***

***Technique Number three! SEVENTH FLUSH!***

Because Ashmoria is concerned that her own rights, not as a gay, which she's not, but as a human being, might one day be threatened.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that as church and state move closer, people like her or people she knows - or even others - might become targeted by the theocracy your kind is trying to turn her country into.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that people, good, decent people, are suffering only so people like YOU can have their whims and insecurities catered to.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that discrimination, a phenomenon that happened in her time, is happening again.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that attacking gays will send a message down the road that there are acceptable targets for scorn and discrimination regardless of them harming anyone or not.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that her country needs to evolve enough to look past this kind of difference.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that her very status as a human being might come into question if she doesn't support that, given that what makes us truly human is the ability to care about our neighbors, regardless of differences.

***Seventh Flush. Seven points, with the same beginning, driven towards one conclusion.***

Your move, sir?

ha. This keeps making me think of the seven seals for some reason. And not just because "Because Ashmoria is concerned that her country needs to evolve enough to look past this kind of difference." lines up with the great earthquake

oh god help us, he thinks he's a lawyer too.

Way to steal my thunder with a great one-liner. :D

oh god help us, he thinks he's a lawyer too.

God can't help you. He turned gay one night back in Sodom. It didn't end well. Hell hath no fury like a queer scorned.

I think what he is worried about is that all these companies that have gay employees now, but arent paying them benefits, will have to start, which will eat into their profit margin.

To which I just respond "boo-fucking-hoo", but I think thats the general arguement being made.
That's the foundation of his argument, clearly, but I doubt it's what he's worried about. If it were, he would not have ignored my comments about nationalized health care -- and ignored them twice so far. No, I think he's just worried about not be allowed to discriminate against this group anymore. I mean, if the gays get rights, who will he have to demonstrate his social superiority over?

Splendid.

To whoever in this forum may have felt annoyed by my issues with Iraq, I apologize. Allow me to do something that, while it might not rekindle the respect you once had for me, would at least hopefully be fitting as a good moment.



***O Speaker! He who seeks the truth, through reason and enlightenment! Air and Light! Cross through the depths of ignorance, destroy it!***

***Technique Number three! SEVENTH FLUSH!***

Because Ashmoria is concerned that her own rights, not as a gay, which she's not, but as a human being, might one day be threatened.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that as church and state move closer, people like her or people she knows - or even others - might become targeted by the theocracy your kind is trying to turn her country into.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that people, good, decent people, are suffering only so people like YOU can have their whims and insecurities catered to.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that discrimination, a phenomenon that happened in her time, is happening again.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that attacking gays will send a message down the road that there are acceptable targets for scorn and discrimination regardless of them harming anyone or not.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that her country needs to evolve enough to look past this kind of difference.

Because Ashmoria is concerned that her very status as a human being might come into question if she doesn't support that, given that what makes us truly human is the ability to care about our neighbors, regardless of differences.

***Seventh Flush. Seven points, with the same beginning, driven towards one conclusion.***

Your move, sir?
thank you.

thank you.

My pleasure.

What can I say, I'm a sucker for a limelight. :p

God can't help you. He turned gay one night back in Sodom. It didn't end well. Hell hath no fury like a queer scorned.

Actually, God being gay would explain a lot. I mean, he never seems to hang out with women in the Bible, and he's really focused on the interior design of his temple....

Actually, God being gay would explain a lot. I mean, he never seems to hang out with women in the Bible, and he's really focused on the interior design of his temple....

And lets check out all the phallic imagery in the Bible and religion. I mean, come on. God took Adam's bone. And it was ribbed. Need I say more?

And lets check out all the phallic imagery in the Bible and religion. I mean, come on. God took Adam's bone. And it was ribbed. Need I say more?

So...

Wink-wink, nudge-nudge?

It's not an Internet forum until someone quotes Monty Python.

And lets check out all the phallic imagery in the Bible and religion. I mean, come on. God took Adam's bone. And it was ribbed. Need I say more?

Indeed! And, I mean, really, omnipotent deity, can create anything, and the first thing he makes after he finishes all the light and water and stuff? Hot naked guy. He doesn't even think of making a woman until Adam suggests it.

Indeed! And, I mean, really, omnipotent deity, can create anything, and the first thing he makes after he finishes all the light and water and stuff? Hot naked guy. He doesn't even think of making a woman until Adam suggests it.

He brought all the animals through first.......you know in case Adam was into goats or something.

Indeed! And, I mean, really, omnipotent deity, can create anything, and the first thing he makes after he finishes all the light and water and stuff? Hot naked guy. He doesn't even think of making a woman until Adam suggests it.
And really, you know he made her just to be his fag hag.

"Ugh.. You know, I made all these companions for him, but is it enough? No. It's never enough. He just wants to screw around with you now. Bitch."

Ashmoria, you're not looking at the bigger picture here. If Obama has his way and legalizes gay unions across the nation, it DOES affect me. I am a business owner, which means that I would have to provide health benefits to any future gay employees and their partners. If I have to provide those health benefits, it costs me out of pocket. But, as a business owner, I can't eat those costs. So, I, along with every other business in the nation will simply pass the cost along to the customer. It's not as simple as what you make it out to be.

Does this mean if gay unions are not legalised you will be sacking all your married employees and hiring a full staff of gay people so you can save on the benefits package? :confused:

And really, you know he made her just to be his fag hag.

"Ugh.. You know, I made all these companions for him, but is it enough? No. It's never enough. He just wants to screw around with you now. Bitch."

"...and by the way, those fig leaves? SO last season, honey."

Does this mean if gay unions are not legalised you will be sacking all your married employees and hiring a full staff of gay people so you can save on the benefits package? :confused:

Best. First post. EVER.

Does this mean if gay unions are not legalised you will be sacking all your married employees and hiring a full staff of gay people so you can save on the benefits package? :confused:
Ah, it's nice when the first post just cuts right to the heart of the matter like that. :D Nicely done.

"...and by the way, those fig leaves? SO last season, honey."

And can we talk shoes? I mean, I haven't created them yet, but just you wait sweetie. You. Will. Die.

Does this mean if gay unions are not legalised you will be sacking all your married employees and hiring a full staff of gay people so you can save on the benefits package? :confused:


No. That would be like hiring only alcoholics as employees.

Does this mean if gay unions are not legalised you will be sacking all your married employees and hiring a full staff of gay people so you can save on the benefits package? :confused:
Dude. I love you.
No. That would be like hiring only alcoholics as employees.
A) you just compared gays to alcoholics.
b) how is that at all the same? Do elaborate on your fucked up analogy, for I am in a masochistic mood.

No. That would be like hiring only alcoholics as employees.

Okay, when this guy comes out of the closet, drinks to the party are on me!

No. That would be like hiring only alcoholics as employees.

please, like gay people would drink alchohol. That's so white trash.

please, like gay people would drink alchohol. That's so white trash.

*is drinking Kettle One Vodka right now...*

please, like gay people would drink alchohol. That's so white trash.

Give me meth or give me death!

God damn it Obama, we told you to "Change" everything until every single person is completely happy, and we gave you the whole transition to do it. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, its like the whole government's running on CPT!

No. That would be like hiring only alcoholics as employees.

Ummm? Don't alcoholics generally have more health problems than non alcoholics? Are you suggesting that gay people get sick more? If so please elaborate.

Thank you.

*is drinking Kettle One Vodka right now...*
*...is drinking Gordon's gin right now...*

Give me meth or give me death!

please. Proper club kiddies do E.

Ummm? Don't alcoholics generally have more health problems than non alcoholics? Are you suggesting that gay people get sick more? If so please elaborate.

Thank you.
oh no No NO NO! You were doing so well! Don't use purple text! No! Come on! I don't just declare my love to every new poster we have!

oh no No NO NO! You were doing so well! Don't use purple text! No! Come on! I don't just declare my love to every new poster we have!

awww but purple is my national colour *pouts*

I'll stop if you keep saying nice things about me *grins*

I am in a masochistic mood.

Dude, stop trying to get NA to "accept" your "lifestyle" with "open arms." If you know what I mean. :tongue:

Dude. I love you.

A) you just compared gays to alcoholics.
b) how is that at all the same? Do elaborate on your fucked up analogy, for I am in a masochistic mood.

A) Yes, I did.
B) There are all kinds of addictions. Drugs, alcohol, sex, even food. And there are degrees of every addiction.

A) Yes, I did.
B) There are all kinds of addictions. Drugs, alcohol, sex, even food. And there are degrees of every addiction.

...wait, are you suggesting that people are addicted to being gay? How...how does that even work?

No. That would be like hiring only alcoholics as employees.
*joins the audience waiting with bated breath to hear just how hiring gays is like hiring alcoholics*

...wait, are you suggesting that people are addicted to being gay? How...how does that even work?
Ah, well, *puts on mind reading cap* it's a CHOICE, see? Nobody has to be gay. They only do it to annoy. And as we all know, Teh Ghay is recognized as a medical disorder and is covered by health insurance, which all ghays use to treat their ghayness. Those "Pray the Gay Away" retreats aren't free, you know. You have to pay for every one of those twelve steps to hetero Christ.

So, in that way, hiring gays must be like hiring addicts, because gays seek expensive treatment for their gayness, just like addicts do for their addictions, and that adds up on their health insurance.

Wait...

Don't they?

...wait, are you suggesting that people are addicted to being gay? How...how does that even work?

Everything addiction starts with curiousness.

I should walk away as this thread is starting to make me twitch.

Everything addiction starts with curiousness.

You've been having those dreams again haven't you?

Everything addiction starts with curiousness.

Then do us all a favor and cut off that addiction to oxygen of yours, will you?

please. Proper club kiddies do E.
Pffft...

Anyone who's anyone these days is doing Ket.

Dude, stop trying to get NA to "accept" your "lifestyle" with "open arms." If you know what I mean. :tongue:
It isn't his arms that I'm concerned with.

I feel dirty...
A) Yes, I did.
B) There are all kinds of addictions. Drugs, alcohol, sex, even food. And there are degrees of every addiction.
Uh huh. So gays are addicted to gay sex?

Yes, people can be addicted to sex. But how are gays all addicted?
Everything addiction starts with curiousness.
Uh huh...so how is a gay relationship or being gay at all related to addiction?

Everything addiction starts with curiousness.

So, you honestly, actually are saying that people are addicted to being gay?

I...I mean...I don't even know where to begin. I really don't.

Everything addiction starts with curiousness.

I'm curious as to how your mind works, doesn't mean I'm addicted although I'm starting to have some interesting urges involving a hacksaw and a microscope and possibly strawberry jelly...

So, you honestly, actually are saying that people are addicted to being gay?

I...I mean...I don't even know where to begin. I really don't.

*twitch*

It isn't his arms that I'm concerned with.

I feel dirty...

Uh huh. So gays are addicted to gay sex?

Yes, people can be addicted to sex. But how are gays all addicted?

Uh huh...so how is a gay relationship or being gay at all related to addiction?
Regardless of all that addiction malarkey, I'm waiting to find out what any of it has to do with health insurance costs.

I'm curious as to how your mind works, doesn't mean I'm addicted although I'm starting to have some interesting urges involving a hacksaw and a microscope and possibly strawberry jelly...

Dude. This guy is awesome. Youre on my watch list.

The good one. But not the really good one that involves me getting restraining orders.

You know, I would address this whole "gay addiction" thing further, but I've got to go feed my "straight addiction" by thinking about attractive men.

Mmm....attractive men...

Okay, so back to the topic - how the HELL is a sexual orientation even remotely similar to an addiction?

I'm curious as to how your mind works, doesn't mean I'm addicted although I'm starting to have some interesting urges involving a hacksaw and a microscope and possibly strawberry jelly...

You're good! Are you sure you're new? o_O

Okay, so back to the topic - how the HELL is a sexual orientation even remotely similar to an addiction?

and how does this relate to insurance costs...

Dude. This guy is awesome. Youre on my watch list.

The good one. But not the really good one that involves me getting restraining orders.

Last time I checked I wasn't a guy *grins*

Okay, so back to the topic - how the HELL is a sexual orientation even remotely similar to an addiction?

My money is on him answering "both start with an A!".

Last time I checked I wasn't a guy *grins*

On the internet, the men are men, the women are men, and the children are FBI agents.

Last time I checked I wasn't a guy *grins*

Wait.

Great poster.

Stylish.

Scottish.

Female.

Are you sure you're not Morrigan? ;)

and how does this relate to insurance costs...

Indeed. I am really lost on that one.

In other news, my brain is now helpfully singing, "Might as well face it, you're addicted to gay!" :p

You're good! Are you sure you're new? o_O

I had an account a few years back, but rarely posted.

I sat an read the whole thread before I made my comment and I am active in other sites which keep my wits sharp.

I'm glad I don't come across as a n00b. :)

Wait.

Great poster.

Stylish.

Scottish.

Female.

Are you sure you're not Morrigan? ;)

They just implied they weren't male...who says they're female ;)

They just implied they weren't male...who says they're female ;)

So... "Fear its asexual Scottish leet skillz"?

They just implied they weren't male...who says they're female ;)

*checks again* most people who get a good look at me, I'm a little too full figured to be placed in the others catagory

Successful troll is successful. He's been president for 3 weeks. Repost in a year and a half and you can have my opinion, because by then I will have one. Ron Paul '08

Successful troll is successful. He's been president for 3 weeks. Repost in a year and a half and you can have my opinion, because by then I will have one.

Smunkee isnt a troll...

Ron Paul '08

Yeah? Howd that work out for ya?

Successful troll is successful. He's been president for 3 weeks. Repost in a year and a half and you can have my opinion, because by then I will have one. Ron Paul '08

who're you calling a troll?

I'm curious as to how your mind works, doesn't mean I'm addicted although I'm starting to have some interesting urges involving a hacksaw and a microscope and possibly strawberry jelly...

...I'm watching you.

Last time I checked I wasn't a guy *grins*

....how YOU doin?

...I'm watching you.

And this is different from how you are with any other female poster in what way?:p

On the internet, the men are men, the women are men, and the children are FBI agents.

this is NSG, where all the men are strong, all the women are good-looking, and all the children are above average

Smunkee isnt a troll...
Holy shit! *sigged*

Holy shit! *sigged*

What can I say, youve grown on me.:p

who're you calling a troll?

Hahaha, glad someone noticed. Takes one to know one eh?

What can I say, youve grown on me.:p

It's because of the Star Trek right? I get points for that.

this is NSG, where all the men are strong,

And soldiers/lawyers/business owners.

Hahaha, glad someone noticed. Takes one to know one eh?

o.0

wha?

>.>

It's because of the Star Trek right? I get points for that.

Nah, its because I started to understand when your joking.

And found you hilarious.

And soldiers/lawyers/business owners.

I'm a translator.

Then again, I'm not only a REAL one, I DO manage to use it to help with my points.

Hahaha, glad someone noticed. Takes one to know one eh?

No...really...who are you calling a troll?

this is NSG, where all the men are strong, all the women are good-looking, and all the children are above average

It's true. *eats a Powder Milk biscuit and some rhubarb pie*

o.0

wha?

>.>

Then again, perhaps not. If this was a serious question, I apologize, not only for calling you a troll, but for the people who are forced to deal with someone with such a closed mind daily. In all seriousness then, Obama isnt even president yet. Hes passed like two things. It will be about another year before anything he does starts to change anything.

Then again, perhaps not. If this was a serious question, I apologize, not only for calling you a troll, but for the people who are forced to deal with someone with such a closed mind daily. In all seriousness then, Obama isnt even president yet. Hes passed like two things. It will be about another year before anything he does starts to change anything.

Nah, the goal of this thread, I think, was to mock right wing talk show hosts.

Then again, perhaps not. If this was a serious question, I apologize, not only for calling you a troll, but for the people who are forced to deal with someone with such a closed mind daily. In all seriousness then, Obama isnt even president yet. Hes passed like two things. It will be about another year before anything he does starts to change anything.
You didn't read the OP, did you?

No. Didn't think so.

Then again, perhaps not. If this was a serious question, I apologize, not only for calling you a troll, but for the people who are forced to deal with someone with such a closed mind daily. In all seriousness then, Obama isnt even president yet. Hes passed like two things. It will be about another year before anything he does starts to change anything.
Um...have you actually read the thread? Or even just the OP? I mean, you do realize, don't you, that Smunkee was making fun of a rightwing radio wingnut who was saying that Obama is a failure, right? So, the troll in question is on the radio in Oklahoma (I think it is), not here.

Nah, its because I started to understand when your joking.

And found you hilarious.

Oh, thank FSM, so many people don't get my jokes at all.....I think they're fucking hilarious, but many people think I'm 100% serious so it makes me look like a bitch.

Did we scare Mount Orab off, I'm kinda waiting to see the rational behind the last argument, before I make up the jelly.

Did we scare Mount Orab off, I'm kinda waiting to see the rational behind the last argument, before I make up the jelly.

It's almost like you almost think that he has rational, and would share it even if it did exist...

I like you more and more each post.

Did we scare Mount Orab off, I'm kinda waiting to see the rational behind the last argument, before I make up the jelly.

He still appears to be here. Maybe he's trying to think of some sort of rationale to post? :tongue:

Did we scare Mount Orab off, I'm kinda waiting to see the rational behind the last argument, before I make up the jelly.
Feh, you may as well get the jelly. If he does come back, he's not going to have a better argument, so you'll have to pounce on him quick before he scarpers again.

Did we scare Mount Orab off, I'm kinda waiting to see the rational behind the last argument, before I make up the jelly.

mmm, jelly

Oh frig. You guys are right. This is what I get for posting past my bedtime. I'm sorry all. *goes to pool of shame

mmm, jelly

I like Kentucky Jelly.

It's tasty.

Oh frig. You guys are right. This is what I get for posting past my bedtime. I'm sorry all. *goes to pool of shame
That's okay. :D *leaves a pudding for Belkaros for when he gets out of the pool*

I like Kentucky Jelly.

It's tasty.

Kentucky Jelly? *looks confused*

Since the success or failure of Obama's presidency will largely depend on the success of the stimulus package, I don't think he has a chance, but for all our sakes I'm hoping and praying that God will be merciful.

Interesting tidbit - I read earlier tonight that if you factor in all the interest we will be charged on the money we're printing for the stimulus, it would equal 9.7 trillion dollars - which would be enough to pay off 90% of all personal mortgages in the country and take a whole generation out of debt, if it were simply returned to the american people with no congressional machinations.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aGq2B3XeGKok

I'm hoping and praying that God will be merciful.

God being mercyful implies that Obama has done something that would warrent something other then generosity on your god's part.

Kentucky Jelly? *looks confused*


aka KY Jelly.

(and how the hell do you do a spoiler thingy? Me sees not the way.)

ah of course US state notation, I guess it's getting pretty early here, might need to sleep

ah of course US state notation, I guess it's getting pretty early here, might need to sleep

meh, I didn't get it either...and I'm from the states.

God being mercyful implies that Obama has done something that would warrent something other then generosity on your god's part.

Everyone has done something wrong which requires mercy. But in this case I wasn't targeting Obama but rather the rest of the country whose excesses brought us to this point.

Good Lord, Day 28 of the presidency and we're already up to 19 (40 post) pages.

Everyone has done something wrong which requires mercy. But in this case I wasn't targeting Obama but rather the rest of the country whose excesses brought us to this point.
If you believe the country is in for divine retribution due to our wayward habits, then nothing Obama does should make any difference, right? After all, his actions today will not erase our misdeeds of yesterday -- unless you DO think he is the Messiah, sent to cleanse the world of our sins...?

are serious? he JUST GOT INTO OFFICE you can't honestly expect things to change overnight? That would be impossible. Honestly though, give him a year, by then, well be able to see how he's at least doing. If things are in any way better then they are now by that time, and nothing has gotten progressively worse, then hes done a damn good job. Even if he keeps everything exactly how it is, if the economy doesn't recede anymore, he'll have done a damn good job.
i agree, we should give him a year. i have reservations about him, but failure is too extreme. MEOW!

Good Lord, Day 28 of the presidency and we're already up to 19 (40 post) pages.

And worse yet, the thread hasn't even been properly hijacked! When I got my spamming wings, this sort of nonsense would not have been tolerated :(

i agree, we should give him a year. i have reservations about him, but failure is too extreme. MEOW!

*strokes kitty*

If Bush can multitask, Im sure Obama can.

Dont pretend like you are worried about priorities. Youre worried that those icky fags might destroy the sanctity of marriage.
bush is dumb and never should've been president

*strokes kitty*

pics please.

What a terrible arguement.

Might hold water if I cared what the Judeo-Christian god, a genocidal tyrant, thought.

Or at the very least if I believed in him:p
God's not a tyrant. very common misconception. bet i'm freer than you. and how is He genocidal. HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! RAOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

God's not a tyrant. very common misconception. bet i'm freer than you. and how is He genocidal. HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! RAOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

....what the fuck just happened?

Just like I am "forced" to "accept" you being Christian.

The difference is, that doesnt bother me. Thats what makes us different.
How do you know Mount Orab's religion? Satan is a tyrant, dude. hate him. you are under his rule. at least i believe that. what you believe is your choice. it's called free will. PURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

I agree with you on that, LB. I was TOTALLY against giving money to faith-based groups. I thought it set a bad precedent and I still believe it's unconstitutional.
i'm christian. And is anglo-peruvian states still around? said player is baptist as far as i know.

....what the fuck just happened?

I'm not petting any more, THAT is for damn sure!

....what the fuck just happened?

Yes.

Browsing the site of the radio DJ in question, I particularly loved the follwoing two pics he considers "funny":

http://markshannon.com/funnys4.gif

and the following headed "What really brought the plane down in the Hudson river" :

http://markshannon.com/funnys50.jpg

We are still talking on-topic, right? And no one else posted this before, right? *has for once not read entire thread before posting*

....what the fuck just happened?
what are you talking about?

what are you talking about?

I wish I knew. I really wish I knew.

I'm not petting any more, THAT is for damn sure!
what did i do? MROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! pet me more!

....what the fuck just happened?

*raises hand and shakes head*
That was my fault, Neo Art. I sorta told her that if she's to meow, she should do it like she means it. Sorry.
*sighs*
I think she believed it a bit too much.:(

what did i do? MROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! pet me more!

You went all into Attack Cat mode! I'm made of flesh, ya know, I don't wanna be decimated (there was a discussion somewhere once about how that's not really an appropriate word to use) by your claws!

Good kitty *pets*

....what the fuck just happened?Life, my friend, life just happened, and it was wonderful.

Is Obama a failure as a president?

Yes, unless we count his sucess at fearmongering.

Life, my friend, life just happened, and it was wonderful.

No, it was kittylicious. Say it with me, ki.tty.li.cious!

You went all into Attack Cat mode! I'm made of flesh, ya know, I don't wanna be decimated (there was a discussion somewhere once about how that's not really an appropriate word to use) by your claws!

Good kitty *pets*
The word you want is "lacerated," perhaps. "Decimated" means reduced by one tenth, which could happen to you, possibly, if you get lacerated enough. Lacerations are a kind of slashing cut, as with kitty's pretty little claws.

Life, my friend, life just happened, and it was wonderful.
*sniff* *gets all misty* It's beautful. *sniff*

Is Obama a failure as a president?

Yes, unless we count his sucess at fearmongering.
I'm not scared. I guess he is a failure, after all.

No, it was kittylicious. Say it with me, ki.tty.li.cious!*says it with Nanatsu*

This is ridiculous, but ridiculous thing can be fun sometimes. :p