NationStates Jolt Archive

I have no idea what McCain is talking about now.. he seems to be shooting himself in just about every limb...

"I'm proud of the people who come to our rallies."

McCain, you stupid bastard.

it'll hurt McCain that he couldn't bite his tongue

McCain is terrified of losing the few who still show up for him.

Seriously, he's going to pull the "I get large crowds, some people are going to be nuts?"

Obama pulls fucking rockstar crowds, dude.

Dedicated...patriotic....racist....men and women...

Oh please. Tell me when someone has called for your death McCain. When have you been called a terrorist?

Seriously, stop being a little bitch and man up.

They're both being idiots.

Neither of them are doing well tonight.

nice line Obama..."disagree without being disagreeable"

Obama is missing an opportunity here. He should be pressing hard on Palin saying he palled with terrorists, etc. He should be pushing it when McCain is saying it now.

He shouldn't be letting McCain pull this on him.

OMG He's talking about Acorn?

Oh God he brought up Ayres and ACORN.


DESTROYING THE FABERIC OF DEMOCRACY?

Republicans like what Obama is saying here

"You asked me a direct question, I've suddenly decided to answer it..."

Obama's laughing at the ACORN thing. That'll hurt him, even though it's warranted.

Ayers... washed up old terrorist...

Exactly the wording that one of MSNBC's pundit predicted McCain would use.

so why does mccain not wear flag pins?

Yay for getting McCain to talk about Ayers!

See the twitch in McCain's chin (left hand side) when Obama started talking about the 'real story' with Ayers?

Another tic for the box.... and it's going again now...

He handled the Ayres thing well.

McCain SPOKE at an ACORN meeting for his immigration law. Give me a break.

They're both smirking now during responses...

Again, women like Obama.

Obama just shotgunned McCain in the face with the Ayers and ACORN thing.

Obama should point out that he is attacking McCain's policy... whereas McCain's ads are talking about Obama personally...
Yes but what about when McCain mentioned Obama's spanish ads attacking (incorrectly) McCain's view towards immigrants.......

True it's "on the issues"...but Obama's ads were total bullshit. I don't even LIKE McCain and I'm defending him on this one.

I was listening to salsa on the radio the other day on the spanish channel and heard one of Obama's spanish language ads against McCain..it was ridiculous. It made McCain look like me, for God's sake! (When it comes to immigration)...even though McCain has been on what seems like a crusade for more immigration, easier immigration and the legalization of all the illegals in America already:

McCain has promoted the legislation and eventually the granting of citizenship to the estimated 12–20 million illegal aliens in the United States and the creation of an additional guest worker program with an option for permanent immigration. His prominent role in promoting the Senate's 2006 immigration legislation, including an initial cosponsorhip role with Ted Kennedy, made him a focus of the debate in 2006, and his support for S.1348 did so again in 2007. The immigration issue caused intense friction within his own party, such as when The Washington Times reported that McCain and South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham "first checked with Mr. Kennedy before deciding to vote with the Massachusetts Democrat on an amendment to the Senate bill."[286] McCain's immigration stance was widely cited as a major reason for his presidential campaign's difficulty during most of 2007.

In his bid for the 2000 Presidential nomination, McCain supported expansion of the H-1B visa program, a temporary visa for skilled workers.[287] In 2005, he co-sponsored a bill with Ted Kennedy that would expand use of guest worker visas.[288]

McCain campaigned against Proposition 200, a 2004 Arizona state initiative intended to prevent illegal immigrants from voting, receiving welfare benefits, and mandated state agencies to report illegals to the federal government. McCain argued Prop 200 would be overly expensive to execute, that it would be ineffectual, and that immigration regulation falls only under the purview of the federal government.[289]

McCain has repeatedly argued that low-skilled immigrant labor is necessary to supply service roles that native-born Americans refuse. In one widely remarked-upon incident, he insisted to a union group that none of them would be willing to pick lettuce for fifty dollars an hour. The audience interrupted with offers and several weeks later demonstrators showed up at his Phoenix office to apply for lettuce picking work.[290]

In May 2007, McCain conceded to Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly that passage of amnesty will permanently change the ethnic makeup of the country. He supports a path to citizenship for an estimated twelve to twenty million immigrants, on the condition of a thirteen year waiting period.[291]

In June 2007, McCain voted in favor of declaring English as the official language of the federal government.[292]

I expected the debate to be a mess and a bit disappointing and so far, it is.

He's got McCain just on the edge of boiling over there... I wonder if he's priming him...

McCain is floundering now.

The rolls seem to be reversing. Obama is doing better and McCain is flubbing now.

wow, McCain TANKED with the poll audience on this one. Major rope a dope.

bad move to laugh, Obama.

lol awesome question

They're both smirking now during responses...

Generally doesn't mean much. They probably both are thinking about how much they want to wring the necks of the other and smirking because they have the self control to not do so. :p

Ah, that's much better. McCain the flounderer and Obama the riser.,

OH MY GOD. These questions are like the questions we all wanted to ask but couldn't. awesome.

Screw knifes, he's throwing swords and tridents in the ring...sweet Jesus, what a question...

Shieffer asks evil questions. :)

God damn, these questions are just hitting on all cylinders!

Well, I heard the opening salvos of the debate, and I am even more convinced than ever that I don't want either one of those bottom-feeding slime monsters as my president.

Two bets says McCain camp says that the moderating was unfair.

Except when McCain mentioned Obama's spanish ads attacking (incorrectly) McCain's view towards immigrants.......


Mentioning, even erroneously, how you deal with immigrants - is negative. Yes.

But it's negative ad about what you DO. How is that a personal ad? That's the difference.

I really do love these questions. This is the best debate for questions and absolutely uninteresting otherwise.

"Americans have gotten to know Sarah Palin...they know that she's a raving loon..."

Well, I heard the opening salvos of the debate, and I am even more convinced than ever that I don't want either one of those bottom-feeding slime monsters as my president.
Well, guess what? You're going to (if you're a US citizen).

63 to 33 Obama. He just took a MAJOR chunk out of McCain, I think he was waiting for that question.

Oh, good. For a second I thought that Obama was rambl-

ROLE MODEL FOR WOMEN WHAT THE FUCK MCCAIN

WHAT THE FUCK

Palin a reformer! Kill me now.

fucking hell role model to women. Pay for your own rape kit and no, you should bear that baby that you don't want from the rape. Give me a break.

I hope Obama brings up Palin's abuse of power.

Ooooohhh.... I just realized Obama will be able to bring up Troopergate. That automatically wins him this one.

Bresh of freth air!

And men are lapping it up. Jesus Christ, how dumb can you be?!

Worst question McCain could ask for, I love it :D

63 to 33 Obama. He just took a MAJOR chunk out of McCain, I think he was waiting for that question.

Good.

I feel like I'm being read a fairy tale. I've heard it all before, and I know none of it is true, but grandpa just loves to read it to me. The Tale of Princess Caribou.

Motherfucking fuck role model to women god fuck you McCain I hate you I hate you I hate you.

Did they take the buttons away from CNN's female undecided voters when McCain started talking about Palin? The orange line just flatlined.

"the lower 48, fuck Hawaii, pineapple munchers..."


She understands special needs...autism...



Just going to let that ring around for a while...

Bring up troopergate Obama. Bring it up.....


GOD DAMNIT YOU PUSSY BRING IT UP

I'm watching relative performances here. It took Obama 45 minutes to get into it, but he's hitting better now. I wonder if he's playing for a big finish.

If he's got a weakness, it's still that - in each debate so far - he's let McCain get away with a lot of stuff.

McCain had a good start, and he's still hitting about even. If he has a weakness, it's that he seems to have come pretty close to losing his temper twice now.

She's a capable politician?

Obama is too frigging nice!

*snrk* new funding in a spending freeze

Mentioning, even erroneously, how you deal with immigrants - is negative. Yes.

But it's negative ad about what you DO. How is that a personal ad? That's the difference.
Well it was "on the issues", sort of. But the point was it made McCain look like an anti-immigrant, old racist man who hates immigrants and wants to work to make life difficult for immigrants.

Literally EVERYTHING McCain has done is the exact opposite.

I couldn't disagree more with McCain's immigration stances, but I'm still gonna defend him on it from Obama's lies.

Iraq united?

Motherfucking fuck role model to women god fuck you McCain I hate you I hate you I hate you.

Summing up my feelings succinctly.

She's a capable politician?

Obama is too frigging nice!

It's a tactic, same as Biden in the VP debate having tp not appear to be going to hard against her.

Bring up troopergate, obama! Bring it up!

She's a capable politician?

Obama is too frigging nice!
She capable of stabbing her opponents in the back.

Seriously fuck you McCain goddamn you.

what the fuck? you didn't even mention the MAJOR ethical problem Palin is in right now? You just let that one go?

Idiot.

Why can't we spend less? Because you keep wanting to research new fields but not decrease the current ones. You can't increase our research and new technologies without new money. Unless you expect private funding to go up....

Dang it, Obama! You just lost your one chance for Troopergate!

Did they take the buttons away from CNN's female undecided voters when McCain started talking about Palin? The orange line just flatlined.

i picture the slack-jawed "wtf?!" interfering with their operating the poll-o-matic dial

what the fuck? you didn't even mention the MAJOR ethical problem Palin is in right now? You just let that one go?

Idiot.

I hate that he always takes the high rode. Motherfucker.


HAVE SOME TEETH YOU FUCKER!

McCain just keeps saying stuff "You don't <i>tell</i> them." It makes him sound too covert.

Nuclear Power Pants!

"no problem, ask Nevada..."

This is actually making me sick.

Canadian oil is fine!

Another thing McCain doesn't want to tell other countries we'll be doing. Does he plan to run the whole fucking country in secret? Does he have an invisibility sphere big enough for all the states?

what the fuck? you didn't even mention the MAJOR ethical problem Palin is in right now? You just let that one go?

Idiot.

That's what I mean! He hardly ever even flat-out denies or corrects anything! Thank God he did that for the Ayers thing but still. Sheesh! Stop being so placid and polite while you're being fucking slandered.

I think it's funny (in a very sad way) how much American politicians have devolved since Jefferson, :(


And do you hear that, Canadians? Your oil is good with us!

Nuclear Power Pants!

it breathes heavily through its mouth due to lack of sweat glands?

Well it was "on the issues", sort of. But the point was it made McCain look like an anti-immigrant, old racist man who hates immigrants and wants to work to make life difficult for immigrants.

Literally EVERYTHING McCain has done is the exact opposite.

I couldn't disagree more with McCain's immigration stances, but I'm still gonna defend him on it from Obama's lies.

As you should.

That's what SHOULD happen. They should talk about each other's issues.

I have NO problem with politicians dissing each other on the issues. That's what politicans are SUPPOSED to do - that's why you have separate parties.

But Obama isn't getting attacked on his issues. Even tenuously. Saying he's palling around with terrorists... or, even worse, as the California GOP suggested - that he's IDENTICAL to Osama except the spelling... is NOT on the issues.

"You don't tell them! You force them into it through the ass!"

Canadian oil is fine!

Yeah, that was awesome. The Canadians will be so happy! :tongue:

Obama is REALLY getting into it now.

Whats the score Neo?

Yeah, that was awesome. The Canadians will be so happy! :tongue:

Good thing they don't vote. :)

i think it's funny (in a very sad way) how much american politicians have devolved since jefferson, :(


and do you hear that, canadians? Your oil is good with us!

oorah!

"We can't drill our way out of the problem."

Don't know how that'll go over, but I like it.

Good thing they don't vote. :)

:tongue:

That's what I mean! He hardly ever even flat-out denies or corrects anything!

treads too close to 'angry black man'

If we can reprocess and deal with nuclear fuel... why have we been building a storage facility for nuclear waste at Yucca Mountain?

Obama's letting McCain get away with a lot...

This "Japan/South Korea" thing bothers me. These are our allies, and close ones at that! Don't piss them off!

flipping conservative minority . . .ARGH who in the Hells votes conservative after *rant* [/RANT]

If we can reprocess and deal with nuclear fuel... why have we been building a storage facility for nuclear waste at Yucca Mountain?

Obama's letting McCain get away with a lot...
Because it's a completely different method of running a power plant. Nuclear power plants on subs and aircraft carriers don't work the way plants on land do.

treads too close to 'angry black man'

oh that's such bullshit




meaning you're appaenrtly right but it pisses me off really fucking bad

This "Japan/South Korea" thing bothers me. These are our allies, and close ones at that! Don't piss them off!

Please, we're Japan's bitch.

Im baffled how bad this debate is.

"some passed by Clinton"

and the rest? Bush Snr or Jr.

As you should.

That's what SHOULD happen. They should talk about each other's issues.

I have NO problem with politicians dissing each other on the issues. That's what politicans are SUPPOSED to do - that's why you have separate parties.

But Obama isn't getting attacked on his issues. Even tenuously. Saying he's palling around with terrorists... or, even worse, as the California GOP suggested - that he's IDENTICAL to Osama except the spelling... is NOT on the issues.

Indeed. The only thing I'm gonna say is that, no matter how unintelligent this may be, many MANY Americans are worried about all of Obama's "shady ties"...and it all started with Wright. Whether or not it's correc to be worried about those issues is not the debate, but the fact is that many Americans are interested in it and are worried about it. McCain is simply tapping those fears.

Personally, the Osama thing is ridiculous, the Ayers thing is really stretching it, but the Wright issue was real, in my opinion.

Ok, so McCain's idea of how drill-baby-drill will help us it that, once the Saudis see us drilling our own oil, they'll try to sell us theirs cheaper?

I'm ignoring the last analyst who is giving 15 points to McCain and 29 to Obama. With that it is:

40 to 40 tie

Drugs? What the hell do drugs have to do with anything?

it breathes heavily through its mouth due to lack of sweat glands?

I was thinking more along the line of Atomic Slacks. :p

can i please strangle mccain now PLEASE

Mocking Obama's "eloquence" and calling him dumb and untravelled.

Also, I thought that was a good attack on Obama's lack of skillz on foreign affairs....."never been south of the border".

How is McCain even doing tolerably? ARGH.

Hes selling this shit to Michigan.

I was thinking more along the line of Atomic Slacks. :p

both amusing images.

fuck yeah, enforcing unfair trade agreements. screw you, other countries!

Wait wait wait.

"Enforce unfair trade agreements"? Damnit Obama, stop misspeaking.

Please, we're Japan's bitch.

All the more reason not to piss them off.

NOW hes burying the needle. Good for him.

Hes selling this shit to Michigan.

And we're eating it up.

More of this "without precondition" shit?

Back to the greatest hits tour...

Because it's a completely different method of running a power plant. Nuclear power plants on subs and aircraft carriers don't work the way plants on land do.

Yeah they do - almost identical, except that landbased plants use free water, rather than a circuit. They both produce contaminated waste.

Hoover didnt raise taxes...

McCain pulls shit in these debates that would get him chewed up and spit out on NSG.

Hoover. He brought up Hoover. The guy who didn't interfere. And he uses this to advocate not interfering. What.

Yeah they do - almost identical, except that landbased plants use free water, rather than a circuit. They both produce contaminated waste.

They use the same fuel for their whole lifespan...at least as far as I understood it. I may be wrong. (And if I am, I'll learn the correct way it works. I won't be able to tell you how though. Classified.)

Ha! I'll see your Joe the Plumber and raise you two Rosie the Riveters without health insurance!

Finally figured it.

Obama isn't playing this as a debate.

Watch him - talking point comes up, he kind of answers it - then he makes a presentation of policy to the audience.

When he plays this as a debate, he's doing solid damage - but he's playing two SEPARATE phases here.

I like what Obama's saying, but it's treading close to UHC and people don't like that.

At least Obama is connecting with auidences now.


He burried the fucking needle there.

Hoover. He brought up Hoover. The guy who didn't interfere. And he uses this to advocate not interfering. What.

Hoover. Hoover. A Republican.

That's an easy counter for Obama.

McCain pulls shit in these debates that would get him chewed up and spit out on NSG.

though we might not catch him on it if we did it live and in real time

Ha! I'll see your Joe the Plumber and raise you two Rosie the Riveters without health insurance!

Do they have any preexisting conditions?

43 to 40 Obama now. But keep in mind I am TOTALLY ignoring one analyst who has the score 31 to 15.

So Obama is leading against analysts that, I presume, are more moderate and conservative, and ignoring the liberal one.

knob goes to 11

...and then mccain talks

I'm getting bored with this debate. They seemed to have stopped talking to each other and are talking facing forward.

Finally figured it.

Obama isn't playing this as a debate.

Watch him - talking point comes up, he kind of answers it - then he makes a presentation of policy to the audience.

When he plays this as a debate, he's doing solid damage - but he's playing two SEPARATE phases here.
...

Now it makes a lot more sense, and that means Obama's kicking more ass.
I like what Obama's saying, but it's treading close to UHC and people don't like that.What people don't like is the possibility that it would mean government mandated decisions involved in every level. Of course that's not going to happen in any decent UHC system, but the American people don't know that, sadly.

God. Damnit. Stop talking about Joe the Plumber.


Seriously.

God... Joe.

Who is McCain selling himself to? Us, or Joe the Plumber?

though we might not catch him on it if we did it live and in real time
We do all right.

We would crucify him with that fucker "Joe."

Women hate Joe the Plumber.

If I were Joe the Plumber I'd kill myself after tonight. Srsly.

Five thousand dollars for health care. For a family. That's just insulting.

McCain is TANKING with women now.


Keep talking about Healthcare. Obama cleans up on that.

Nutrition programs in schools and gym memberships? That's your health plan, John? Seriously? Wow, that's really going to help bunches with my situation! Or, you know, not.

McCain dropped like a STONE with women, but Obama was pushing the line with both during his turn.

FUCKING FINE! NO FUCKING FINE! STOP LYING ABOUT THE FUCKING FINE!

FUCK! :headbang:

Poor guy, he now has to be known as "Joe the Plumber" across America and every place playing this. I can imagine him somewhere going "I have a name!"

EDIT: Did McCain have a "wtf???" look one his face when Obama said "No fine"?

Holy shit look at McCain's face. He totally just threw off his game.

McCain is awestruck.

"joe, if you're out there, here's your fine. 0"

Good line.

43 to 40 Obama now. But keep in mind I am TOTALLY ignoring one analyst who has the score 31 to 15.

So Obama is leading against analysts that, I presume, are more moderate and conservative, and ignoring the liberal one.
Last time it was a Republican strategist.


He did just talk about it...C'mon John, we have short memories, but not goldfish memories...

LOL. This is amusing me. :D

McCain dropped like a STONE with women, but Obama was pushing the line with both during his turn.

Exactly. Keep on healthcare. Obama cleans up then.

Nutrition programs in schools and gym memberships? That's your health plan, John? Seriously? Wow, that's really going to help bunches with my situation! Or, you know, not.
I actually liked that bit. Added IN TO EVERYTHING ELSE it'd be nice.

On it's own it's not worth much, but as an added feature, it's good.

Nooooooooooooo, now Obama is talking to Joe, too. ><

physical fitness and healthy lunches in schools? Guess what? That is unconstitutional to mandate from the federal government.

"joe, if you're out there, here's your fine. 0"

Good line.

Did you see McCains face? He was like "Oh shit I was liedz too!"

McCain dropped like a STONE with women, but Obama was pushing the line with both during his turn.

Interestingly he dropped with both women AND men as soon as he mentioned the $5000 credit thing. Odd. But hey, I'll take it.

McCain should've renamed "Joe the Plumber" to "Bob the Builder" to touch base with the parents of those that watch that show.

>.>
<.<

Damn, Obama. Tossing out the actual costs of health insurance. Nice.

I actually liked that bit. Added IN TO EVERYTHING ELSE it'd be nice.

On it's own it's not worth much, but as an added feature, it's good.

Sure, but no one in their right mind thinks the big problem with our health care system is "not enough people are gym members."

Joe The Plumber for President!

Ive noticed something. When Obama talks about his policy, he goes THROUGH THE ROOF. When he talks about McCain's policy, he stays pretty level.

Who is this joe goddamnit?!

McCain should've renamed "Joe the Plumber" to "Bob the Builder" to touch base with the parents of those that watch that show.

>.>
<.<

Yes we can! :tongue:

STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT JOE!

I AM NOT JOE! :p

"hey joe, you're rich!"

Average american: "but, um...I'm not. What about me?"

Oh, haha, now working class Joe has to be a rich man so McCain can attack Obama with him. Yeah, we know who McCain's base is.

Poor guy, he now has to be known as "Joe the Plumber" across America and every place playing this. I can imagine him somewhere going "I have a name!"

EDIT: Did McCain have a "wtf???" look one his face when Obama said "No fine"?

Are you kidding? That's going on the side of his van now-his business just shot through the roof-and people will keep asking for his 'honest working man political opinion' and then some ambitious local tv producer will give him a show and he'll have a Lonesome Rhodes style (Face in the Crowd, watch it, love it) rise and fall...

who is this joe goddamnit?!

who is this joe and why the fuck isn't he fixing my toilet right now?!

Fuck you McCain it's not 5800 dollars. Obama's number is right, not yours. Fuck you.

Transplants, eh?

Sure, but no one in their right mind thinks the big problem with our health care system is "not enough people are gym members."

Indeed.

McCain is a fucking idiot. Does he honestly think his plan is going to help anyone at all?

"Transplants"? Is he sure he wanted to include transplants with cosmetic surgery and gold-plated cadillacs under things that won't be covered under his plan?

Obama is doing MUCH better now. I dont know if he was day dreaming about som chicks rack in the front row or what, but hes on his game now. And McCain' losing it.

Senator Government for President!

Yeah, McCain wants Joe to do the work. Translation: He wants to privatize health care.

Joe, I want you to research among the thousands of health plans across the US and decide on your healthcare in all your freetime you have while running the business you just bought. Oh, and if you get the wrong one, you'll likely be locked into it for a year, so if you get sick, oops!

Joe The Plumber for President!

See? SEE?!?

McCain's smiling is just going to kill him.

Transplants, eh?

Yeah, those are crazy luxuries, didn't you know? I was thinking of getting a new heart next week just for giggles.

Oh Roe V Wade. Awesome.

Obama had a rough start but he TORE that shit up.

"I need a new heart!"

"Elitist Bastard!"

Good god, I should have started knocking something back everytime I heard "Joe" or "Joe the Plumber"

Good god, I should have started knocking something back everytime I heard "Joe" or "Joe the Plumber"

Yeah, nobody had those on their drinking game list. Rats!

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Isn't it interest that he believes that the decisions should lie in the hands of the states, but wants to bypass state regulation on healthcare. Fun!

Yeah, I'd be afraid of conservative judges too, asshole.

Oh, God. McCain just brought up Obama opposing Roberts. There goes whatever women's vote is left.

Ideological sounds like idiological from McCain

best and most qualified people in the united states... sarah palin for supreme court!

I'm not watching the debate. I'm just reading NSG's commentary.

Did McCAin just say what I think he said?

Justice BREYER? Breyer joined the court in 1993. A DECADE before Obama joined the senate. How the hell did Obama vote AGAINST Breyer?

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<3 :fluffle:

There shouldn't be a litmus test but no one who doesn't want to overturn Roe v. Wade is qualified?

Did I just hear that right?

Yeah, those are crazy luxuries, didn't you know? I was thinking of getting a new heart next week just for giggles.

There goes my insurance funded baboon heart and crocodile lung to get super powers.

Judges who would stick to "strict construction of the Constitution" and "not legislate from the bench" are talking points of the rightwing for judges that support conservative politics. So much for McCain having no litmus test.

Obama is hammering on Roe V Wade being threatened. And its helping him with women.

I'm not watching the debate. I'm just reading NSG's commentary.

You might as well just watch a comedy for the next hour or however long this is going to last. It'll do about the same, methinks.

52 to 49 discounting the Liberal leaning analyst.

Oh God I heard it right.

52 to 49 discounting the Liberal leaning analyst.

In Obama's favor?

Justice BREYER? Breyer joined the court in 1993. A DECADE before Obama joined the senate. How the hell did Obama vote AGAINST Breyer?

from his classroom, obviously

Oh, Louie, Louie...

In Obama's favor?

yes

I totally heard "Sir Obama" just now. Awesome.

Courage and compassion for a young woman...not to let her have control over her own body.

GAH!!! This lie!!!

Joe is now investing in male contraceptives.

:p

Blah blah blah partial birth abortion blah blah...

McCain TANKING with Obama.

There shouldn't be a litmus test but no one who doesn't want to overturn Roe v. Wade is qualified?

Did I just hear that right?

That's what I thought. The fuck?

Pro-Abortion?

He wants to change our culture. He wants to change it to one where women have less rights than men. Period.

I notice that men like McCain's anti-abortion stance more then women.

women hated mccain there, men were lapping it up

If it sounds incredible, that's because it's a lie.

I notice that men like McCain's anti-abortion stance more then women.
Big surprise there.

McCain better not argue that there wasnt a law on the books in IL saying we have to provide medical care for failed abortions. Because, living here, I know Obama's right.

Did McCain just laugh?

Oh god, will McCain bring up teaching sex to kids in kindergarten?

Prevent unintended pregnencies...BOOM skyrockets with men and women.

he mentioned comprehensive sex ed and he buried the needle.

Cavalier activity. I like that. *adds to euphemism list*

I notice that men like McCain's anti-abortion stance more then women.

but its totally not about treating women as property, we swear

Both lines are topping out.

With the eloquence again! It's the new "elite"!

Oh wow, is McCain going to attack someone for caring about the health of the mother?

Not only is he right about the law, but he voted Present on the other one because that's what Present is for, so you can show you like the premise, but oppose the addons to a bill.

he wants to preserve the health of the mother! The BASTARD!

"'Health' of the mother - pssh, like we should care about that shit!"

Did McCain just laugh?

At points he looks like a Wallace and Gromit character, and I keep hearing odd noises coming from him(not sure if that is from him or my dogs right next to me).

I love Obama's look right after that-"Ball's to you, bitch."

Okay, now I want to strangle that two-faced fucker.

"Health of the mother" is just "pro-abortion" propaganda. He can go to hell.

Education. Here we go lads and lassies.

With the eloquence again! It's the new "elite"!

Same sort of thing they said about Colin Powell. "What a well spoken man! How eloquent!"

Stop being racist, fuckers.

(God damn am I rude tonight or what?)

cnn analyst in the upper right corner - have they done anything recently? did they fall asleep?

I seriously think right now I hate John McCain more then I have so far.

sit tight kids. This'll be fun.

With the eloquence again! It's the new "elite"!

"Mr. Obama talks well for an uppity... uh... I mean... for a senator." He's a fucking senator! He should be eloquent, asshole!

Honestly, I hate stretching people's comments, but he's been playing to racists for three weeks.

Okay, now I want to strangle that two-faced fucker.

"Health of the mother" is just "pro-abortion" propaganda. He can go to hell.

He's not getting a single woman vote.

Any woman who votes for him just gave up her right to her vagina.

Neo, could we get a score update?

He started off weak, but mid to end Obama fucked this shit up. And McCain lost it.

knob goes to 11

Same sort of thing they said about Colin Powell. "What a well spoken man! How eloquent!"

Stop being racist, fuckers.

(God damn am I rude tonight or what?)

No, that one makes me pissed too. I was totally swearing. It's not even veiled anymore. And look at McCain's face. This guy is going to run our government? He can't even pretend to respect his running mate, how is he going to negotiate with other government leaders?

Neo, could we get a score update?

working on it. Will wait until McCain finishes speaking to let people judge both sides.

Hes talking about colleges and hes burying the needle.

Everybody! We all must spam Fox News vote and claim Obama won it!

beautiful answer, Obama. He knows his research well, and it has worked for him.

Wow,the lines were topping out when he admonished parents. Whoda thunk it?