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Early? Yeah, well-someone was getting impatient. So to bid the time before the debate, let's here everyone's predictions?

McCain wets himself?

Obama wets himself?

McCain tries to land in the debate on a fighter jet with "Election Accomplished?"

What's your predictions?

Poll to follow...

Kyronea sniped you by one minute.

I think I'm acutally going to stay up and watch it. My first debate this election, woohoo.

It's gonna be awkward and make me squirm and I'll wish I'd have gone to bed instead, but hey. <<

I'm a bit busy right now and about to run out....what time does the debate start?

I predict that Obama will do okay and McCain will make me yell at the TV.

I predict that Obama will do okay and McCain will make me yell at the TV.
thats a good prediction.

i predict that mccain will have me saying to my husband "what did he just say? did he really say <something insane>?"

Kyronea sniped you by one minute.

Mine is snappier and has a poll. Everyone loves polls...

An interesting article on CNN, the question of whether Obama's comments in the last few days, stating that McCain won't talk about Ayers "to his face" may be manipulating McCain into political rope-a-dope (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/15/martin-obama-is-setting-up-mccain-for-the-political-rope-a-dope/), getting him to blow his top in the hour at a time where even the slightest misstep could be fatal for his presidential ambitions.

An interesting article on CNN, the question of whether Obama's comments in the last few days, stating that McCain won't talk about Ayers "to his face" may be manipulating McCain into political rope-a-dope (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/15/martin-obama-is-setting-up-mccain-for-the-political-rope-a-dope/), getting him to blow his top in the hour at a time where even the slightest misstep could be fatal for his presidential ambitions.

I am intrigued.

An interesting article on CNN, the question of whether Obama's comments in the last few days, stating that McCain won't talk about Ayers "to his face" may be manipulating McCain into political rope-a-dope (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/15/martin-obama-is-setting-up-mccain-for-the-political-rope-a-dope/), getting him to blow his top in the hour at a time where even the slightest misstep could be fatal for his presidential ambitions.

It'd very much be worth having stayed up for that. *hopes*

thats a good prediction.

i predict that mccain will have me saying to my husband "what did he just say? did he really say <something insane>?"

My entire script for the last few debates

liar........liar.........that's not what you were asked.......liar......liar.......you're going directly to hell for that sir.......liar.......liar.........liar.

I don't think I'll watch tonight.

My entire script for the last few debates

liar........liar.........that's not what you were asked.......liar......liar.......you're going directly to hell for that sir.......liar.......liar.........liar.

I don't think I'll watch tonight.

Maybe there will be a pit fight...and then you'll miss it!

I predict that McCain will spend the entire time trying to make Obama look like a toddler in diapers while Obama will spend the entire time making speeches so long that some people will hang themselves just to get him to shut up.

Maybe there will be a pie fight...and then you'll miss it!

Fixed. :)

I predict that McCain will spend the entire time trying to make Obama look like a toddler in diapers while Obama will spend the entire time making speeches so long that some people will hang themselves just to get him to shut up.

I will donate $5 to a charity of McCain's choice if he uses the SNL line "Pee pants"...

Fixed. :)

I think ending the debate in a reproduction of the finale to Bugsy Malone would be the awesomist thing ever.

Dude...you San Franciscan you...

Twice! TWICE!

I will donate $5 to a charity of McCain's choice if he uses the SNL line "Pee pants"...

I'll donate $20 to the charity if he also does the SNL item of walking in circles around Obama while Obama's trying to talk.

Dude...you San Franciscan you...

Twice! TWICE!
It was peer pressure!

I'll skip it since I never hear them say anything unexpected.

It was peer pressure!

Yeah.

Peer pressure of your thread being more popular than mine! :(

I'll skip it since I never hear them say anything unexpected.

Oh come on, last one McCain said something that even his own campaign didn't expect. And insulted a questioner.

Yeah.

Peer pressure of your thread being more popular than mine! :(

Snappy titles, poll, and a little pimpin'-which ain't easy.

How many times will McCain's eys wonder? How many times will he say "KGB"? Will there be a laugh track this time?
:p

Find out in 1 hour 50 min.

my roomie and I will be playing the drinking game again.

How many times will McCain's eys wonder? How many times will he say "KGB"? Will there be a laugh track this time?
:p

Find out in 1 hour 50 min.

There should be an "I know..." count..."I know how to do this...why won't you fuckers listen to me!!!"

my roomie and I will be playing the drinking game again.
Whatever you do, don't pick "my friends!" for your compulsory shot.

Oh come on, last one McCain said something that even his own campaign didn't expect. And insulted a questioner.

True but the best parts get rerun all day long

There should be an "I know..." count..."I know how to do this...why won't you fuckers listen to me!!!"

what are the McCain phrases we can count on?

"I know how to..."

"My friends..."

"Obama doesn't understand..."

"I'm sorry, where am I again?"

But seriously. One thing. Watch and then post which one you think is more likely to get us in a war with Russia and Iran.

But seriously. One thing. Watch and then post which one you think is more likely to get us in a war with Russia and Iran.

Palin.

Whatever you do, don't pick "my friends!" for your compulsory shot.

haha...that's exactly what I chose. He chose every time Obama mentions change.

edit: though, we're playing with beer, not shots.

Snappy titles, poll, and a little pimpin'-which ain't easy.

But I had a funny Batman clip! I had it made!

haha...that's exactly what I chose. He chose every time Obama mentions change.

edit: though, we're playing with beer, not shots.

Good thing, otherwise you'd all die of alcohol poisoning...

edit: though, we're playing with beer, not shots.Phew! I was fearing for your life, for a second there...

But I had a funny Batman clip! I had it made!

You can post your clip here...:p

But I had a funny Batman clip! I had it made!
But have you ever uttered the phrase "Aw yeah, I'm gonna butter you like a corn cob"?
CToaN it is then.
Good thing, otherwise you'd all die of alcohol poisoning...

Phew! I was fearing for your life, for a second there...

We considered it, but all we have is Jose, which he hates and I can't do without limes/salt (which we are far too lazy to get) or vodka, which I hate, and he needs a chaser for (which, again, sloth kills.)

so beer it is!

General Petraus should be there so McCain can 'service' him right there in front of the world. It would probably be less annoying and more entertaining. :D

You can post your clip here...:p

It was supposed to be my "prediction" of the debate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l63SRpGXBHE

Sarkhaan: No, I can't say I have ever said that.

Nor would I ever do so. :gundge:

General Petraus should be there so McCain can 'service' him right there in front of the world. It would probably be less annoying and more entertaining. :D

Maybe available in the directors cut later.
:tongue:

It was supposed to be my "prediction" of the debate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l63SRpGXBHE
Nice.

Sarkhaan: No, I can't say I have ever said that.

Nor would I ever do so. :gundge:

You have to be pimp to pull it off...http://www.cvreefers.org/images/smilies/pimp.gif

I predict that the moderator of the debate is going to facepalm at least once at McCains responses

Maybe available in the directors cut later.
:tongue:

McCain and Petraus call it a 'troop surge'. ;)

But I had a funny Batman clip! I had it made!
:tongue:
It was supposed to be my "prediction" of the debate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l63SRpGXBHE
"hobnobbing with crooks" = "palling around with terrorists" :eek2:

None of us should mock McCain. Hes got us right were he wants us!

Sarkhaan: No, I can't say I have ever said that.

Nor would I ever do so. :gundge:
I was going to say something on CToaN's behalf, but I think he said it perfectly. So I'll just quote it to highlight it/rub it in
You have to be pimp to pull it off...http://www.cvreefers.org/images/smilies/pimp.gif

I was going to say something on CToaN's behalf, but I think he said it perfectly. So I'll just quote it to highlight it/rub it in:(

Whereyouthinkyougoing: It's obvious! McCain is the Penguin!

Clearly.

:(

Whereyouthinkyougoing: It's obvious! McCain is the Penguin!

I think for this debate, McCain has decided to chain himself to the table to keep from wandering like a penguin.
:tongue:

None of us should mock McCain. Hes got us right were he wants us!

This will be a long road for something probably not worth it, so fair warning.

I used to be a writer/performer for a starship simulation group where players would sit in a box and operate various stations of a starship bridge and we'd sit on the outside controlling the 'universe' and playing villians (part of my job)...one hitch, we only had one monitor for the overall 'game' that also served as our monitor to the 'bridge', so when I was talking smack we would lose some vital information. That hadn't been a problem until one day I was talking smack while they were trying to get us to surrender, I said, "I've been in worse shape than this before!!!" They looked a little stunned and said, "No, I don't think you have..." We switched monitors and realized that while I was talking smack they had destroyed my ship. (we flipped back on and I put my finger up and then did a prat fall...)

McCain reminds me of this moment.

I was going to say something on CToaN's behalf, but I think he said it perfectly. So I'll just quote it to highlight it/rub it in

You know what they say, procuring sexual favors and the behalf of others in exchange for monetary compensation is a difficult prospect...

You know what they say, procuring sexual favors and the behalf of others in exchange for monetary compensation is a difficult prospect...
It's a wonder that phrase hasn't caught on more...

It was supposed to be my "prediction" of the debate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l63SRpGXBHE


It ain't even funny that you can run through that clip and pick out 8 or 10 direct parallels with the current campaign...

It ain't even funny that you can run through that clip and pick out 8 or 10 direct parallels with the current campaign...

It's funny in that 'laughing while crying' kind of way...

Palin.

Yes she would be more likely. But McCain seems like automatic war with Russia & Iran as well. Not just in his attitude and lack of forthought, but how he won't look at Obama. Obama is a fellow senator. How would he act at a world summit? When you go to a world summit meeting you have to look at those people when your talking to them and they are talking to you. If you don't they can get extremly pissed.

I can't take it anymore. I've decided to watch U.S. vs. Trinidad and Tobago in World Cup Qualifiers, since there really sin't anything that could get me to vote republican at this point.

Okay, which websites are streaming the debate again? (And if they are, can you pause the stream?)

I can't take it anymore. I've decided to watch U.S. vs. Trinidad and Tobago in World Cup Qualifiers, since there really sin't anything that could get me to vote republican at this point.

Might as well watch the only game the US is going to win, right?

Okay, which websites are streaming the debate again? (And if they are, can you pause the stream?)

Good point-who is watching where? Who is on the CNN lines? I myself prefer the dry blandness of the C-SPAN broadcast, who has what covered?

Well, see, if I watch it with my parents on TV, I'll have to watch it on MSNBC.

I'd rather watch it at my computer this time and actually participate in the running commentary instead of just laughing at it afterwards, but I want to be able to pause it in case I need to.

Okay, which websites are streaming the debate again? (And if they are, can you pause the stream?)
http://news.sbs.com.au/worldnewsaustralia

They've got a live stream (top right corner). No idea whether you can pause it.

Well, see, if I watch it with my parents on TV, I'll have to watch it on MSNBC.

I'd rather watch it at my computer this time and actually participate in the running commentary instead of just laughing at it afterwards, but I want to be able to pause it in case I need to.

I'm pretty sure CNN streams it.

C-SPAN is broadcasting the audience prep-"At 9pm you'll hear all the anchors behind you talking...don't freak out"


EDIT:Oooh, shout out to the sponsers...first on, Anheiser Busch...national drinking game catalyst, beer sponsor...coincidence?

I think I'll be watching on CNN. The line entertains me.

I think I'll be watching on CNN. The line entertains me.

Same here.

I dig the black out screen in the back for the moderator camera. Mostly imagining the director or operator yelling at them when they step into light or get too close to the window.

Good point-who is watching where? Who is on the CNN lines? I myself prefer the dry blandness of the C-SPAN broadcast, who has what covered?

I'm watching the "NSG Live Debate Coverage" since I need to get a few side-project-related things done and don't have a laptop. On a related note: GnI, any luck so far?

Stuart Rabinowitz, Hofstra University President just quoted Spiderman in regards to the responsibility to hosting the debate...

I'm pretty sure CNN streams it.

C-SPAN is broadcasting the audience prep-"At 9pm you'll hear all the anchors behind you talking...don't freak out"


EDIT:Oooh, shout out to the sponsers...first on, Anheiser Busch...national drinking game catalyst, beer sponsor...coincidence?

I can't find the stream on CNN, unless they're just not doing it yet.

We all ready for Maverick time?

We all ready for Maverick time?

there really should be an MC Hammer picture for that...

Damn CToaN, why aren't you over here watching with me. >_>

Whatever you do, don't pick "my friends!" for your compulsory shot.

You know, the last debate, my roommates and I had that as just one of the rules (though we too played with beer).

I also took to yelling "I'm not your friend, buddy!" and such when he said it. :D

Haha, our CNN feed here is 15 seconds ahead of the American one.

I shouldn't have told anyone and just blown everyone's mind with my mad predicshun skillz.

Damn CToaN, why aren't you over here watching with me. >_>

Cuz he's outside your window watching you. Pull up your pants!

You know, the last debate, my roommates and I had that as just one of the rules (though we too played with beer).

I also took to yelling "I'm not your friend, buddy!" and such when he said it. :D
It usually started a long volley of those around here, which then lasted untill the next time he said it. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Haha, our CNN feed here is 15 seconds ahead of the American one.

I shouldn't have told anyone and just blown everyone's mind with my mad predicshun skillz.

I noticed that last time. Some people were commenting on things as they happened. Either that or they could type with their minds.

Wow. They are talking about the Clintons and their support or lack there of of Obama on CNN.


God I hate the press.

I noticed that last time. Some people were commenting on things as they happened. Either that or they could type with their minds.

Telekinetic typing, or as we like to call it, "teletyping."

Telekinetic typing, or as we like to call it, "teletyping."

That was almost witty, or as we like to call it, stupid.

I noticed that last time. Some people were commenting on things as they happened. Either that or they could type with their minds.

15 seconds is a lot, too.

I can throw out outrageous statements and have people bet me and lose. Like "McCain is going to call Obama 'that one'".

Bets for money, obv. Really, really quick bets for money.

Here we go! WHOO! WHOOOOOOOOOO!

Good to be here with all of you again!

The poll is kinda annoying me >_>

Damn CToaN, why aren't you over here watching with me. >_>

I'm not the planner, dammit, you are!

That was almost witty, or as we like to call it, stupid.

I'll have my revenge, the next time I electronically cockblock you.

Here we go folks.

I'm watching the "NSG Live Debate Coverage" since I need to get a few side-project-related things done and don't have a laptop. On a related note: GnI, any luck so far?

I'll TG you later, once I'm not at work :)

Watching it on CNN here, for the groovy glowy lines.

I'm not the planner, dammit, you are!

Too late now

and we are OFF

And....they're off! :tongue:

get ready for the thank you's

and we are OFF

Dammit, get out of my head. :p

Write offs for stock losses? Really? Was that in McCains plan?

Talk about socializing losses.

only two thank yous for McCain.

forgot Obama's name... great start. Finally got it out though... that's an improvement.

I'll TG you later, once I'm not at work :)

Watching it on CNN here, for the groovy glowy lines.

Sounds good.

McCain is taking notes before start again...


Has he started every debate with a shout out to someone in a hospital?

Is he answering the question? I haven't actually heard a reference to Obama yet...

Hes talking about buying bad mortgages again.

Gosh, John, are the American people angry? Because you only said so three times in about 15 seconds...

Has he started every debate with a shout out to someone in a hospital?

well when you get to his age it's a rare day when you don't know someone in the hospital.

Blah, blah, Freddie Mae, Fannie Mac, shut up already! God!

McCain is taking notes before start again...


Has he started every debate with a shout out to someone in a hospital?

Could be worse, he could be giving a shout out to a dead person.

Wait, is he trotting out Clinton's plan-the one already in the bill, as his again?

three thank you's for obama.

voter response was generally positive to McCain for both men and women.

But notice he didn't actually answer the question.

...and.. neither of them is answering the question.

Aaaaaand Obama is wrecking this shit right off the bat.

Blah, blah, Freddie Mae, Fannie Mac, shut up already! God!

He actually did say "Freddie Mae," which made me giggle. :p

Now... Obama is pushing his plan, but wait! a McCain mention. omg he answers the question.

...and.. neither of them is answering the question.

What was it? I got in late because I had to download the stupid video plugin. :rolleyes:

Obama actually addressed real differences in their plan.

Joe.....what?!

"encountered with a guy"...you don't encounter with.

Wow, McCain seems to know all about a conversation Obama had with some random guy.

Is McCain using an Obama "I met someone in Buttfuck Idaho..." story?

and joe? I will come to your house and suck your dick. Then I will service your wife.

so who the hell is still uncommitted to serve on the cnn focus group?

Oh, poor Joe the plumber, who apparently makes a heck of a lot of money plumbing...

LOL. nice obama

OMG! Poor Joe the Plumber!

How the hell does McCain know who Obama met? Is he stalking him?

Aaaaaand Obama is wrecking this shit right off the bat.

Wrecking it in a good way, or a bad way?

What, is McCain writing a novel? How many notes do you need?

Is it just me or does McCain never seem to actually have to DENY anything Obama says. Whereas Obama seems to always have to set the record straight. That's kinda bad form for McCain.

Buttfuck Idaho

a nice town, but, surprisingly, it's night life is lacking

Lulz how Obama knows this Joe as well.

Also Obama, WE KNOW YOUR PLAN! GIVE US SOMETHING NEW!

and joe? I will come to your house and suck your dick. Then I will service your wife.

...at least provided she's much younger and more attractive than me, 'cause I don't hit the old chicks, ya know?

Seriously, how does McCain know all about this conversation with "Joe the Plumber"?

Is this Swing Vote? Are we trying to win the vote of "Joe the Plumber?"

CNN analyst scores: 18 to 8 Obama.

BECAUSE YOU JUST AUTHORIZED A 700 BILLION DOLLAR PAYOUT. How else are we to pay for it if not taxes?

This is like.. stupid idiot lala time.

I should never have watched this. McCain is making me sick already. "Joe the Plumber", in that saccharine tone and weepy look - makes me fucking gag.

Spread the wealth around?!? How horrible! It's like that big douchebag, Robin Hood!

The voters dont seem to love either economic plan.

Ahh crap, not this again.

Kyro - the question was about what is wrong with the other guy's plan, basically.


McCain just tried to paint Obama as a commie with the whole 'redistribution of wealth' angle.

I highly doubt that we have the second highest tax rates for businesses

Ireland had to say they would guarantee all bank investments. Don't tell me Ireland is doing wonderfully.

"I don't mind paying a little more." Nice.

Spread the wealth around?!? How horrible! It's like that big douchebag, Robin Hood!

It's a catchprhase. You should've seen this Libertarian I was arguing with on a forum for local people in my area. Crazy go nutter claiming anything to do with it is auto-communism. :rolleyes:

I think McCain had planned this "joe the plumber" story to be his first round knockout. He seems irritated it's not working.

Has McCain found where Obama is sitting yet?

Joe.....what?!

Wurtzelburger, I'd say.

good question...will they answer it?

I like how the moderator started this question, pinning them down with facts that they can't do everything they've talked about.

Oooh, did the moderator just try to get the question answered?

McCain is making scary faces... *hides from the scary man*

I highly doubt that we have the second highest tax rates for businesses

The US, according to this at least (not sure how reliable it is yet) has the highest corporate tax rate:

http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/1188.html

I've got Obama winning this round, simply because - while I don't think either has given brilliant answers yet, Obama is the only one talking about how he's going to pay for what he spends.

Also - liked the 'I don't mind paying more' comment.

Obama, you're dodging, damn it.

Nice dodge Rambo. Dont tell what you'll cut, go off on a rant about your mortage plan.

Oooh, did the moderator just try to get the question answered?

Bob Shieffer is like Mr Rogers: Deceptively friendly but the wrong man to piss off.

haha, McCain got smacked down by the moderator and got flustered.

Wow you guys should be watching C SPAN, you'd get to see McCain's wild eyed blinking stare at Bob...it was awesome...


What the hell...energy? How'd we get here?

"Well, thank you, Bob, I'm just going to talk about something else now."

god.. finally McCain gets to answering the question.

The hell?! He admits it?!

what does energy have to do with housing prices?

Obama, you're dodging, damn it.

He answered it in the end.

I highly doubt that we have the second highest tax rates for businesses

i think it is true about our top number, but then again, nobody with a tax lawyer and an accountant pays that

I know how... doy

Hatchet THEN a scalpel.

"Alright, jim. Hand me the Hatchet."

"But this is bypass surgery!"

"Hatchet, THEN the scalpel!"

I know how to eliminate programs!

...which?

haha. answer the damn question with facts.

"Hack the head off and then perform surgery!"

26 to 18 Obama

Oh dear god, the projector AGAIN?

Lmao. The planetarium.

Hes talking about that projecter again!

mccain still hates planetariums

Is McCain trying to do a 'greatest hits' concert?

What a maverick.

He'd eliminate the tariffs on sugercane ethanol? Bullshit!

Also, you guys are so ahead of me! I'm on the stream too! :(

McCain is ruling on the CNN scoreboard. Obama is just not connecting with the audience.

Motherfucker, Obama doesnt seem to be doing too well. What is going on?

mccain still hates planetariums

The damn kids keep TPing one of his house after Laser Floyd lets out.

Dear god, McCain is doing well.

****

"Senator Obama, I am not president Bush."

No, but you sure like the guy.

Oh dear god, the projector AGAIN?

That killed him a bit, he was doing okay with the crowd, until then...

McCain finally has a good attack sound bite

yeah, McCain is actually doing well tonight.

Don't smirk Obama...I know its frustrating...keep you composure...

Women dont like McCain.

Obama's flustering! What's going on?

Ha he took a shot a Fox. That might not have been a good idea.

Even FOX news disputes it, and if they dispute, it, it must be dispute-worthy!

"on the core economic issues that matter to the American people ... you have been a vigorous supporter of President Bush"

Obama's flustering! What's going on?

I have no idea whats going on tonight.

"Even Fox News disputes it!"

Bam!

Great answer from Obama right now, but mentioning Bush seems to be dangerous.

Hee, McCain's reaction shot to the Fox comment was hilarious.

Those frigging lines make me nervous. <<

To be honost, neither of them are doing well.

Obama just had a MAJOR comeback on that one.

McCain has SCARS from contending with the Republicans? WTF?

"I hate my party more!" "No, I hate my party more!"

Does mccain have pink eye?

"I got the scars to prove it."

I heard that giggle. Someone doesn't approve.

Oh wow, are really going to pretend that Obama has been nearly as bad as McCain when it comes to this campaign?

lol this question is awesome.

Wow that is an INTERESTING question. Put up or shut up time folks.

Wow, just throw a knife on the desk and get it over with why don't they?

Holy crap, that's a zinger of a question.

"I had to get ugly, he wouldn't do what I wanted!"

"This tone of the campaign has been unacceptable... BUT Obama didn't play my game..."

Oh please. Dont try to pretend like you werent inicting race riots McCain.

"You gotta do what you gotta do!"

Holy crap, McCain is such a liar.

Obama had better call McCain out and the people SCREAMING for his DEATH. I haven't seen him REPUDIATE them.

So hurtful? McCain's people have connected to Obama to bin Laden!! Their suporters have called for his death!!

The torture bit was a nice touch, since McCain's backed a bit away from that.

49 to 37 Obama

He doesn't repudiate every statement someone else makes?

Quit shaking your head, Obama...

So let me get this straight -- McCain's way of regretting the nasty tone of the election is to get nasty on Obama?

Wow, he mentions McCain running a negative campaign and the men's line plummets. Do we just have republican males on there?

Blah.

Ooh, that was a good one. "I don't think the voters care about our hurt feelings".

sounds about right

Heh, neither of them wants to talk about this. McCain keeps attacking, and Obama dodges.

Obama is just not on his game tonight.

Heh, neither of them wants to talk about this. McCain keeps attacking, and Obama dodges.

For Obama to address it, it would appear to be race baiting. He is right to avoid it.

Yeah, Obama's doing pretty badly.

Obama is just not on his game tonight.

not at all

Obama is just not on his game tonight.

Nope, he is very dull tonight.

this worries me slightly, Obama has an hour to fix this mess.

Nope, he is very dull tonight.

I want to know why.

Joe the fucking plumber again!

For Obama to address it, it would appear to be race baiting. He is right to avoid it.
I actually didn't like the question at all. I thought it should not have been brought up deliberately.

Obama's dying out there! We need a St. Bernard!

Obama should point out that he is attacking McCain's policy... whereas McCain's ads are talking about Obama personally...

JOe's back!

Oh, God. Obama just got McCain and McCain doesn't realize it. He managed to get McCain to repudiate the positions that he took to get votes.

give him a bit, he's having to be extra careful right now

So... about McCain saying he was going to whip Obama in this debate...

Seriously, I want to smack that fucking plumber.

is Joe the Plumber related to Joe 6 pack?

Obama is just not on his game tonight.

Agreed.

When did attacks on an opponent's policies and positions become 'negative attacks'?

Yes!!!

The "kill him" thing got brought up, and McCain smiled.

Damn. Go Obama. I appreciate the calmness with which he addresses this.

Obama's coming right back.

Obama, you idiot! :headbang:

He said 'tit'. :)

McCain is getting pissy, I think...

proud, i say!

"I'm proud of the people that come to our rallies" oh that MIGHT cost him.

Wow. McCain plummeted when he said hes proud of the people who come to our rallies.

McCain is getting pissy, I think...
Getting? He's always that way.

........

"I'm proud that my supporters are SCREAMING for your DEATH."