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Live Debate Thread - Obama v. McCain Part 2 - Page 2

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Sarkhaan
08-10-2008, 02:30
Pulling a Palin here
Jocabia
08-10-2008, 02:30
Dude, he attacked the Planetarium projector again. Are you really banking people are too stupid to not agree with museums and astronomy?
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:31
What's this projector thing?
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:31
We have to have a spending freeze...but we can do health care and energy at the same time!

Holy SHIT did OBAMA come out with 9/11 FIRST? He fucking pre-empted MCCAIN on 9/11?
Redwulf
08-10-2008, 02:31
"We're not riffle shots." What the hell does that mean?
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:31
Obama just threw the 9/11 card. Somebody owes Guiliani a royalties check.
The_pantless_hero
08-10-2008, 02:31
McCain: "Now where did I put that hearing aide..."

And did McCain just walk off?
Hydesland
08-10-2008, 02:31
Damn I wish I could see these rating lines.
Frisbeeteria
08-10-2008, 02:31
aaaannnddd ... Professor Obama is back on the stage ... aaaannnndd ... stop lecturing and LEAD, dammit.
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:31
you're not answering the question Barack...
Muravyets
08-10-2008, 02:31
What's this projector thing?
Some bullshit minor project that Obama voted to fund and McCain's been attacking him about all night.
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 02:32
Catching up Sdajerijirijiii

Basically - Obama is nailing McCain, McCain is pulling a Palin, and they're both running WAYYYY over time.
Andaluciae
08-10-2008, 02:32
I like how the ticker plummets whenever Brokaw is on the screen.
Wilgrove
08-10-2008, 02:32
What does this have to do with the economic crisis Obama?
Erastide
08-10-2008, 02:32
Obama's not answering it either. Except focusing on his pet energy topic.
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:32
every time Obama says "oil" his points go up.
Muravyets
08-10-2008, 02:32
you're not answering the question Barack...
Now he's wandering towards an answer.
Frisbeeteria
08-10-2008, 02:32
"We're not riffle shots." What the hell does that mean?

Made sense to me. It means we don't have to narrow our focus to what we see down the rifle. I thought it was a good line.
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:32
What was the question Obama was asked here?
Sarkhaan
08-10-2008, 02:32
there we go...incentives. An actual answer. Finally.
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:33
Obama's not answering it either. Except focusing on his pet energy topic.

but you know what? The polling room is eatting this shit up.
Leistung
08-10-2008, 02:33
Oshi-

He mentioned the Peace Corps.
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:33
Yay Tom Brokaw!
Cannot think of a name
08-10-2008, 02:33
What's this projector thing?

Apparently Obama advocated in some thing or another spending $3 million on a projector for a planetarium...I guess McCain thinks they should have poked holes in a cardboard box and place it over a light bulb...
Wilgrove
08-10-2008, 02:33
Did he say the American public got drunk?
Erastide
08-10-2008, 02:33
LOL i missed what this question was, except Brokaw is talking about being drunk. *confused*
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 02:34
That question was: what sacrifice are you going to ask Americans to make.
Shilah
08-10-2008, 02:34
He got around to the answer eventually. More of an answer than McCain gave, I think.
Frisbeeteria
08-10-2008, 02:34
"I have a 12 point program ..."

Oh wait - that's someone else's.
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:34
Did he say the American public got drunk?

Drunk on credit, yeah.
The_pantless_hero
08-10-2008, 02:34
I have no idea what either of them are talking about.
Sarkhaan
08-10-2008, 02:34
Did he say the American public got drunk?

well, to be fair, some of us are working on it.
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:34
Now he's wandering towards an answer.

yeah, he should have hit it harder and quicker though. But his comment now on government responsibility is good, a bit long and meandering, but at least it's SOMETHING.
The_pantless_hero
08-10-2008, 02:34
well, to be fair, some of us are working on it.
If you are playing the McCain drinking game, you are already plastered.
Erastide
08-10-2008, 02:35
hahahah. Obama said "high on the hog". Does that count as an almost Palin metaphor?
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:35
Folks like myself and Senator McCain, who don't need help....
Myedvedeya
08-10-2008, 02:35
I don't understand why McCain refuses to have priorities- there's nothing wrong with saying what you feel needs to be done first.... "We can do it all at once" is not really an answer to the question...
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:35
"and those of us like myself and Senator McCain who don't need help..." I'm not sure if that's a good line or a bad one.
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 02:36
The audience LOVED the 'me and McCain don't NEED help bit'
Muravyets
08-10-2008, 02:36
OK, who had "raise taxes" in the talking points pool?
Sarkhaan
08-10-2008, 02:36
can we give Brokaw a taser? If they go over, they get shocked.
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:36
McCain PLUMITED when he said "OBAMA WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES!!!!"

And did he just say hoover practiced protectionism?
Frisbeeteria
08-10-2008, 02:36
"Nailing Jello to the wall - he wants to raise taxes."

McCain, it's not working. It's never worked. People stopped believing in Democratics as tax and spend sometime in the Reagan era.
Andaluciae
08-10-2008, 02:36
Folks like myself and Senator McCain, who don't need help....

How do I join your club?
Leistung
08-10-2008, 02:36
"and those of us like myself and Senator McCain who don't need help..." I'm not sure if that's a good line or a bad one.

Eh. It'll be made fun of on SNL later.
Wilgrove
08-10-2008, 02:36
Why do both candidates stutter? "Umm" "Ahh" "eehh"

I hope The Daily Show put all of the "Umm" and "ahh" together.
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:37
Why do both candidates stutter? "Umm" "Ahh" "eehh"

I hope The Daily Show put all of the "Umm" and "ahh" together.

You try doing it.
Poliwanacraca
08-10-2008, 02:37
Wow, McCain sounds pissy now. "Obama changes his tax plan every week, so there!"
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:37
McCain's health plan is a bunch of shitty garbage, and he shouldn't bring it up.
Leistung
08-10-2008, 02:37
I'm trying to figure out which one I hate more...
Wilgrove
08-10-2008, 02:37
Obama: "Can I play by my own rule?"

Moderator: "No"

Pwned.
The_pantless_hero
08-10-2008, 02:38
I vote Tom Brokaw for president.

Obama: "He's lying, I'ma kick ass, verbally."
Brokaw: "If you guys don't stop fighting, I'ma turn this debate around."
Leistung
08-10-2008, 02:38
Oh god, McCain mentioned his healthcare plan. He's screwed.
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:38
38 to 7 Obama.
Wilgrove
08-10-2008, 02:39
You try doing it.

Please...I was going to be a teacher at one point. My life would've been nothing but public speaking.
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:39
Straight Talk Express lost a wheel on that one.

lulz.
Erastide
08-10-2008, 02:39
*giggles* at the "lost a wheel" comment
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:39
Haha, Brokaw explicitly said no, and Obama is doing it anyway.
Myedvedeya
08-10-2008, 02:39
"Nailing Jello to the wall - he wants to raise taxes."

McCain, it's not working. It's never worked. People stopped believing in Democratics as tax and spend sometime in the Reagan era.

Thank you! McCain doesn't seem to understand that raising taxes for the wealthy is not raising taxes for him...
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:39
"the straight talk express lost a wheel on that one"

Notice Obama hasn't said "I agree with Senator McCain' ONCE.
Deus Malum
08-10-2008, 02:39
Why do both candidates stutter? "Umm" "Ahh" "eehh"

I hope The Daily Show put all of the "Umm" and "ahh" together.

Because they're not holding notecards or looking at a powerpoint presentation. You try answering questions on the fly in a room full of people, even when you've prepared for some of the types of questions you'll be getting.
Sarkhaan
08-10-2008, 02:39
not answering the question...
Frisbeeteria
08-10-2008, 02:40
Obama, t a l k i n g . . . s l o w e r isn't going to help McCain get it, and the rest of us already understand that 95% figure.
Muravyets
08-10-2008, 02:40
Check the gender split in the lines when Obama talks about his tax plan. Interesting.
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:40
not answering the question...

Its called politics. No, hes not answering, but the polling room is devouring everything he says. Hes winning, even by not answering the question.
Hydesland
08-10-2008, 02:40
"the straight talk express lost a wheel on that one"

Notice Obama hasn't said "I agree with Senator McCain' ONCE.

Which is a good thing, one less straw for the right to grasp at.
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:40
Please...I was going to be a teacher at one point. My life would've been nothing but public speaking.

If I recall...you lost that job because nobody could understand you...
Redwulf
08-10-2008, 02:40
McCain looked like he was about to club Obama with the mic.
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:41
Lol
Deus Malum
08-10-2008, 02:41
Damn you all and your ability to watch this. *sulks over Classical Mechanics crap he should be getting back to*
Wilgrove
08-10-2008, 02:41
McCain: I'll answer the question

OOOooo PWNED!
Sarkhaan
08-10-2008, 02:41
Its called politics. No, hes not answering, but the polling room is devouring everything he says. Hes winning, even by not answering the question.

yeah, but then you get a shot like that..."I'll answer the question".
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 02:41
Haha, Brokaw explicitly said no, and Obama is doing it anyway.

Well, he said the next question would give him a chance to respond maybe.

Problem is - Obama's kinda shooting himself in the foot by spending this WHOLE question backpeddlind, rather than answering the question...

McCain can keep him on his back foot like that... dirty trick, but it would work.
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:41
Holy God. He says its not hard to fix social security and he PLUMITED.
The_pantless_hero
08-10-2008, 02:41
What, what, what? Did Brokaw just let McCain bitch slap him? Seriously? Come on, you pussy. You can take him, he's old.
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:41
Fixing Social Security is so easy, if we just sit down together! Which totally explains why we haven't done it in the past 30+ years.
Lunatic Goofballs
08-10-2008, 02:41
"I'll answer the question". Okay, point for McCain.
Muravyets
08-10-2008, 02:41
"I'm going to answer the question...

I'll get to it in a minute."

Nice, Johnny.
Frisbeeteria
08-10-2008, 02:41
Social Security has been a bipartisan killer for 40 years, and you think it's EASY?

You're an idiot, John.
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:41
there it is! I'm the maverick!
Wilgrove
08-10-2008, 02:41
If I recall...you lost that job because nobody could understand you...

I never had the job. I just couldn't do the student teaching because of my speech impediment. At least I didn't do the "ahh" and "umm". Which is more annoying.
Cannot think of a name
08-10-2008, 02:42
I vote Tom Brokaw for president.

Obama: "He's lying, I'ma kick ass, verbally."
Brokaw: "If you guys don't stop fighting, I'ma turn this debate around."

It was a good moment.


"I'll answer the question, Tom." Novel approach...

Dear god, don't say 'Ms. Congeniality'
Shilah
08-10-2008, 02:42
"the straight talk express lost a wheel on that one"

Notice Obama hasn't said "I agree with Senator McCain' ONCE.

I think I did hear him say earlier on in the debate, "John's right, BUT..." He immediately pointed out where they disagreed.

Overall, though, you're right. He's not going to make that mistake again.
Andaluciae
08-10-2008, 02:42
John McCain...you make me smile.
Myedvedeya
08-10-2008, 02:42
Obama, t a l k i n g . . . s l o w e r isn't going to help McCain get it, and the rest of us already understand that 95% figure.

McCain and the rest of that 5%, who tend to think that poor people like it when rich people get tax cuts
Poliwanacraca
08-10-2008, 02:42
Things that do not make a great deal of sense:

- Segueing directly from "our wonderful Ronald Reagan" to "I don't always agree with other Republicans!"
Barringtonia
08-10-2008, 02:43
Both these guys are boring the hell out of me,

...but John McCain's breathy voice is disturbing me.
Frisbeeteria
08-10-2008, 02:43
Did I miss the Medicare part he promised to answer?
Leistung
08-10-2008, 02:43
MAVERICK TIME!!!

We really need a smiley holding a sign for that kind of stuff.
The_pantless_hero
08-10-2008, 02:43
Why can't the audience have tomatoes?
Redwulf
08-10-2008, 02:43
"Our wonderful Regan" WTF?
Lunatic Goofballs
08-10-2008, 02:43
Tom is winning the debate! :)
Erastide
08-10-2008, 02:44
lol Bad news is we lost. great.
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:44
line is dead flat as he's talking.
Muravyets
08-10-2008, 02:44
Nope. He didn't really answer it except to say it's tough but WE CAN DO IT! YEAH!
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:44
I have disagreed strongly with the Bush administration on this issue...until they told me sit down and shut up, then I listened. Because Im a Maverik like that.
Shilah
08-10-2008, 02:44
I never had the job. I just couldn't do the student teaching because of my speech impediment. At least I didn't do the "ahh" and "umm". Which is more annoying.

ahh's and umm's happen, even when you're a practiced extemporaneous speaker. I'm a professor, and on my best days I'll breeze through a lecture without any of those...but it happens. Especially when you're pausing to consider your answer or part of your answer. Give them a break - there are more important things they need to be doing better...like answering the questions.
Free Soviets
08-10-2008, 02:44
at least mccain can pronounce nuclear
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:44
Did I miss the Medicare part he promised to answer?

No, he said it's easy, and that apparently if Tip O'Neill gets re-elected to Congress, we'll get it taken care of.
The_pantless_hero
08-10-2008, 02:44
Did I miss the Medicare part he promised to answer?
He didn't mention anything about Medicare except when he pimp slapped Tom Brokaw. Now I have no idea what the fuck he is talking about or what the question was.
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 02:44
Obama knows that nuclear power kills McCains polls?

See that smile when McCain went riding in?
Wilgrove
08-10-2008, 02:44
McCain is doing good tonight, he's actually answering the question.
Erastide
08-10-2008, 02:44
Wait a sec... How about we put the nuclear waste in one of your houses and see how happy you are about it...
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:44
LOL did he just make fun of Obama for wanting Nuclear power to be safe and disposable?
Redwulf
08-10-2008, 02:45
"safe or disposable or something like that . . ."

Yeah, why would we care about that?
Muravyets
08-10-2008, 02:45
I'm sorry, McCain sounds like an idiot talking about nuclear power. Like he was really persuaded by an industry brochure once.
Frisbeeteria
08-10-2008, 02:45
Nuclear power is safe and clean? Then how come we haven't started a new plant since the 70's? That's plenty of time, with a Republican majority for huge chunks of it.

BTW, uranium is effectively a fossil fuel. If you think oil will run out fast, try yellowcake. 50 years at max production, tops.
Camenia
08-10-2008, 02:46
"green" energy.
much other stuff.
We really need to quit expecting GOVERNMENT to do stuff and do it ourselves.

There was a story in the news today about a Wind power farm off the coast of New Jersey being developed.
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:46
Oh, he's agreeing.
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:46
Dont...fucking...say...you...agree
Redwulf
08-10-2008, 02:46
Even the red line is climbing while Obama is talking . . .
Poliwanacraca
08-10-2008, 02:46
"Nothing's been done in thirty years...and McCain's been there for 26 of them!" OH SNAP. :D
Ashmoria
08-10-2008, 02:47
Did I miss the Medicare part he promised to answer?
blue ribbon commision that will decide how to fix medicare and congress votes it up or down.

modeled after the base closing commission.
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:47
BUT, he covered it well. Where have YOU been these last 27 years John?
Andaluciae
08-10-2008, 02:47
Wait a sec... How about we put the nuclear waste in one of your houses and see how happy you are about it...

He probably wouldn't notice...he's got more houses than he can remember.
Shilah
08-10-2008, 02:47
Dont...fucking...say...you...agree

Yeah, he did. But then he bitch-slapped McCain a half second after that.
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 02:47
I think Obama wins this point.

Tom really needs to find some way to crack down on this, though.
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:47
"Nothing's been done in thirty years...and McCain's been there for 26 of them!" OH SNAP. :D

lulz
Frisbeeteria
08-10-2008, 02:48
"Hey, I've got a solution for global warming. Reverse entropy!"
Wilgrove
08-10-2008, 02:48
Nuclear power is safe and clean? Then how come we haven't started a new plant since the 70's? That's plenty of time, with a Republican majority for huge chunks of it.

BTW, uranium is effectively a fossil fuel. If you think oil will run out fast, try yellowcake. 50 years at max production, tops.

Because no one wants a Nuclear Power plant in their backyard?
Sarkhaan
08-10-2008, 02:48
wave. I'm blind from age. I need big hand signals.
Free Soviets
08-10-2008, 02:48
i'mma be president, i don't need no time limits
Poliwanacraca
08-10-2008, 02:48
Tom Brokaw is totally winning the debate. "Hey, jackasses, there are fucking LIGHTS. Look at them!"
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:48
Wait, he wants a spending freeze but wants to spend money to research energy?
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:49
Hey, let's make this question about pork again!
Free Soviets
08-10-2008, 02:49
mmmmm, bacon
New Genoa
08-10-2008, 02:49
My friends
Tiberiusa
08-10-2008, 02:49
Follow the RULES, you dumbasses. You AGREED on them!

-Tom Brokaw is winning.
Andaluciae
08-10-2008, 02:49
i'mma be president, i don't need no time limits

Don't forget about laser chargin' an' stuff...
Shilah
08-10-2008, 02:49
He just called Obama, "that one". Someone please tell me how the CNN viewers responded to that, please - assuming anyone noticed.
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:49
He talks about bridging the gap, but he doesn't have any plan for the other side of the gap. So what's the bridge for?
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:49
Someone give Tom a tire iron.
The Shifting Mist
08-10-2008, 02:49
Tom Brokaw is totally winning the debate. "Hey, jackasses, there are fucking LIGHTS. Look at them!"

Yeah, I loved that little gem.
Muravyets
08-10-2008, 02:49
Wait, he wants a spending freeze but wants to spend money to research energy?
The Bullshit Express is rolling along
Cannot think of a name
08-10-2008, 02:49
"I will seriously kick your asses if you don't stop talking over the clock."

Interrupt them, Tom. You have to, otherwise they'll just keep going over.


Also, penalty Obama for "He started it!"
Andaluciae
08-10-2008, 02:49
My friends

drink
Wilgrove
08-10-2008, 02:49
Haha, wow...I think the moderator should put electros on them, and if they go over the time limit, they get a shock.

That may kill McCain though....
Deus Malum
08-10-2008, 02:49
Anyone have the score so far? No CNN for Deus.
Free Soviets
08-10-2008, 02:50
mmmmm, bacon

correction: mmmmm, bacon, my friends
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:50
The answer to this question is "no".
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 02:50
Ooh, bad question for Obama. Republicans are going to use almost ANY answer he gives here, to play the whole 'commie' card again...
Redwulf
08-10-2008, 02:50
Good question.
Andaluciae
08-10-2008, 02:51
Someone give Tom a tire iron.

When I did RP, our regional news anchor was "Tom Brokejaw".

It's time he takes the title on in RL.
Jocabia
08-10-2008, 02:51
Should it should be a manhatten project or a bunch of garages?

Uh, yes.
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:51
Ooh, bad question for Obama. Republicans are going to use almost ANY answer he gives here, to play the whole 'commie' card again...

He is handling it very well.
Leistung
08-10-2008, 02:51
Nuclear power is safe and clean? Then how come we haven't started a new plant since the 70's? That's plenty of time, with a Republican majority for huge chunks of it.

BTW, uranium is effectively a fossil fuel. If you think oil will run out fast, try yellowcake. 50 years at max production, tops.

Not if we overturn Carter's executive order and start building Fast Breeder Reactors. In that case we have enough fuel for 2 billion years.
Poliwanacraca
08-10-2008, 02:51
"Is health care just a commodity?"

"No. Back to you, Tom!"
Myedvedeya
08-10-2008, 02:51
This debate is much harder to make amusing cracks about than the Biden/Palin debate...
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:51
even IF I remove the 3rd analyst who seems biased to Obama heavily (rating obama with 19 points and McCain 4, so I won't even include it) Obama is winning 23 to 1.

If we include that one analyst, it's 42 to 5.
Redwulf
08-10-2008, 02:52
So far even the republicans like this.
Tiberiusa
08-10-2008, 02:52
The correct response to this is "Health care should not be treated as a commodity, it should be treated as a right."
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:52
McCain's plan is shitty garbage. This should be entertaining.
Free Soviets
08-10-2008, 02:52
seriously, why the fuck are doctors still using leather-bound parchment transcribed by monks?
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:52
lulz, Obama said Mamograms.
Wilgrove
08-10-2008, 02:52
Isn't insurance provided to government employee usually sucky? Or is that just the pay?
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:53
Whats the score Neo Art?
Free Soviets
08-10-2008, 02:53
Isn't insurance provided to government employee usually sucky? Or is that just the pay?

no to both
Redwulf
08-10-2008, 02:53
And republican reaction plummets, but everyone else still likes it.
Sarkhaan
08-10-2008, 02:53
lulz, Obama said Mamograms.

and the woman's line bounced
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:53
McCain's plan makes health care a commodity.
Deus Malum
08-10-2008, 02:53
He talks about bridging the gap, but he doesn't have any plan for the other side of the gap. So what's the bridge for?

It's a good thing he picked a VP candidate who's an expert on bridges to nowhere.
Cannot think of a name
08-10-2008, 02:53
even IF I remove the 3rd analyst who seems biased to Obama heavily (rating obama with 19 points and McCain 4, so I won't even include it) Obama is winning 23 to 1.

If we include that one analyst, it's 42 to 5.

Yeah, you gotta remove that one...yeesh...
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:53
Isn't insurance provided to government employee usually sucky? Or is that just the pay?

Neither. But Senators get epic health care.
Poliwanacraca
08-10-2008, 02:53
Did McCain seriously just suggest putting medical records online? Seriously?
Andaluciae
08-10-2008, 02:53
lulz, Obama said Mamograms.

+10 to Obama.
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:54
Isn't insurance provided to government employee usually sucky? Or is that just the pay?

actually, the health care that congress persons get is phenomenal. And for life.
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 02:54
Did McCain seriously just suggest putting medical records online? Seriously?

Yeah, there are laws against that. McCain voted for them.
Cannot think of a name
08-10-2008, 02:55
Hey, I can see the lights!

Is Brokaw waving his arms?
The_pantless_hero
08-10-2008, 02:55
Tom Brokaw is totally winning the debate. "Hey, jackasses, there are fucking LIGHTS. Look at them!"
There are four lights!

http://bp0.blogger.com/_8GnMdafpO48/R5204Kh5oNI/AAAAAAAABLk/kIJ2dz4e2hE/s400/chain05.jpg
Redwulf
08-10-2008, 02:55
And ONLY republicans like what McCain is saying.
Shilah
08-10-2008, 02:55
McCain has to stop making really lame jokes. That can't be helping him.
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:55
Yeah, there are laws against that. McCain voted for them.

Hes such a maverik.
Andaluciae
08-10-2008, 02:55
Men clearly have more interest in McCain's plan than women...but they get pissed when he talks about kids.
German Nightmare
08-10-2008, 02:55
Man, he doesn't need a hair-transplant. He needs a brain-transplant. And I'd be more than happy to cover that in his health-care plan!
Muravyets
08-10-2008, 02:55
You know I never got my $600 tax incentive check. Never. I don't believe McCain that this "refundable tax credit" (wtf does that mean?) is ever going to trickle down to me.
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 02:55
The hell? McCain basically gave the same answer twice. Now THAT's using your time...
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 02:55
There are four lights!

http://bp0.blogger.com/_8GnMdafpO48/R5204Kh5oNI/AAAAAAAABLk/kIJ2dz4e2hE/s400/chain05.jpg

I think you mean..

There....are....four....lights!
Deus Malum
08-10-2008, 02:55
Yeah, there are laws against that. McCain voted for them.

Flip flopper... :D
Wilgrove
08-10-2008, 02:56
actually, the health care that congress persons get is phenomenal. And for life.

Ahh, fair enough.
New Genoa
08-10-2008, 02:56
privatized health care is good because of 'choice'
Redwulf
08-10-2008, 02:56
I don't think he understands what he was just asked . . .
Free Soviets
08-10-2008, 02:56
even IF I remove the 3rd analyst who seems biased to Obama heavily

i'm pretty sure that's alex castellanos. he worked on mittens' campaign and is a republican ad guy.
Cannot think of a name
08-10-2008, 02:57
Obama is already on his feet, rubbing the mic..."Gimme the bell, where's the bell?"

Of course the audio guy is cursing his name because of the scrub in the pre-fade...
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 02:57
I agree with his answer - but the audience didn't like it.
German Nightmare
08-10-2008, 02:57
There are four lights!

http://bp0.blogger.com/_8GnMdafpO48/R5204Kh5oNI/AAAAAAAABLk/kIJ2dz4e2hE/s400/chain05.jpg
Great!
Tiberiusa
08-10-2008, 02:57
"I know I'm breaking the rules, but screw the rules! I cannot let McCain get away with these attack!"
New Genoa
08-10-2008, 02:57
"I believe it is a right."

*creams*
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 02:58
Buried the needle - all the way across.
Shilah
08-10-2008, 02:58
I think Obama did well handling the health care issue. He was careful to present it in such a way that it couldn't be construed as "communist" or whatever the hell Republicans would like to say it is.
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:58
God Obama is wrecking this shit.
Hydesland
08-10-2008, 02:58
"I believe it is a right."

*creams*

How did the lines react to that?
Frisbeeteria
08-10-2008, 02:59
Heh. Fox News daily survey:
Question of the Day
Is Barack Obama's relationship to Bill Ayers troubling to you?

Yes 32%

No 68%

Total Voters:58902

Take that, scaremongers. Even your base doesn't think this is an issue.
Andaluciae
08-10-2008, 02:59
It seems that women are doing the quivalent of "creaming" their pant over Obama's healthcare stuff.
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 02:59
God look at the women' line. Jesus. The women all want to fuck Obama's brains out.
Sarkhaan
08-10-2008, 02:59
*la la la, I didn't hear the rules. la la la*
German Nightmare
08-10-2008, 02:59
Did Tom just say "shit gears"?

And I really wish McClown would stop trying to be funny!
Cannot think of a name
08-10-2008, 02:59
Yes, Tom, INTERRUPT! It's the only way.
New Genoa
08-10-2008, 02:59
How did the lines react to that?

No clue, watching livestream, too.
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 03:00
The lines didn't like him saying 'it's a right'... but the follow up nailed it to the ceiling - well, the women's vote, anyway - the men's line bounced a bit.
Muravyets
08-10-2008, 03:00
I'd date him. *nods*
Free Soviets
08-10-2008, 03:00
i was worried that the women had tried to turn the knobs to 11 and broke the insta-poll-o-matic for awhile there
Andaluciae
08-10-2008, 03:00
Pringles+liquor+debate+NSG=awesome
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 03:01
It seems that women are doing the quivalent of "creaming" their pant over Obama's healthcare stuff.

Sexist!

Women can cream their pants if they want to. This is America, damn it.
Redwulf
08-10-2008, 03:01
Love what happens to the lines when McCain talks . . .

<BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP>
Free Soviets
08-10-2008, 03:01
Pringles+liquor+debate+NSG=awesome

damnit, i want pringles
Hammurab
08-10-2008, 03:01
God look at the women' line. Jesus. The women all want to fuck Obama's brains out.

That's because women can't be trusted to make important political decisions. Ask Dr. Laura.
Wilgrove
08-10-2008, 03:01
God look at the women' line. Jesus. The women all want to fuck Obama's brains out.

Well, you know what they say about black guys... hehe
Cannot think of a name
08-10-2008, 03:01
"People are going to criticize America, but we're great and anyone who says we aren't is a Commie...Obama?"
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 03:01
People seemed to like that part from McCain.
Jocabia
08-10-2008, 03:01
Dude, ouch. Haven't we heard about how McCain was nailing the women's vote. Ouch. Women are LOVING Obama. Obama was pegged the whole time.
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 03:01
We dont have time for on the job training...except for Palin.
Sarkhaan
08-10-2008, 03:02
damnit, i want pringles

I'll toss you some foccocia and parmesean goldfish. And gin.
Muravyets
08-10-2008, 03:02
McCain delivers all that war-hero-national-security-protecting-the-world stuff very well. Too bad everything he says so well is a lie.
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 03:02
there he goes again "you were wrong". It works for him.
Poliwanacraca
08-10-2008, 03:02
"America is the greatest force for good in the history of the world."

I wonder what the evangelicals are going to think of that comment...
Tiberiusa
08-10-2008, 03:02
Obama scored a point by saying "He's right, I don't understand... like why we went to Iraq when we should be getting bin Laden."
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 03:02
Now he's nailing the men.

Errr... so to speak.
Shilah
08-10-2008, 03:02
Ugh, Obama - don't say, "You're right I don't understand," even when you follow it up with "how the hell we got here."
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 03:03
Hmmm, the men want to fuck him now too.
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 03:03
36 to FOUR, even DISCOUNTING the obviously Obama biased analyst
Andaluciae
08-10-2008, 03:03
Sexist!

Women can cream their pants if they want to. This is America, damn it.

From my personal experience, it's not creamy. It's clear. I just was reluctant to use the word "wet".

Oops! I just used the word "wet"
Hammurab
08-10-2008, 03:03
Dude, ouch. Haven't we heard about how McCain was nailing the women's vote. Ouch. Women are LOVING Obama. Obama was pegged the whole time.

Its a primate thing. Obama is tall, has good teeth, and can fend off predators without breaking a hip.

My anthropologist tells me this is how female heuristics work.
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 03:03
People like it when Obama pegs McCain to the Iraq war.
Barringtonia
08-10-2008, 03:04
$700B seems to be the cost of everything these days.
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 03:04
Ugh, Obama - don't say, "You're right I don't understand," even when you follow it up with "how the hell we got here."

yeah, don't give them buzzwords, even if it sounds good live, that's not how they'll edit it in the commercials against you.
Wilgrove
08-10-2008, 03:04
Hmmm, the men want to fuck him now too.

Once again...he's black....he may be well endowed...
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 03:04
From my personal experience, it's not creamy. It's clear. I just was reluctant to use the word "wet".

Oops! I just used the word "wet"

At least you didn't say 'moist'.

EDIT: Crap. Now I said 'moist'.
New Genoa
08-10-2008, 03:04
$700B seems to be the cost of everything these days.

conspiracy theory in the making?
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 03:04
Godwin!
Hydesland
08-10-2008, 03:04
I don't like it when he says this "yes, we ARE indeed the greatest nation on earth", does make him seem a bit tool-ish.
Dempublicents1
08-10-2008, 03:05
Ugh, Obama - don't say, "You're right I don't understand," even when you follow it up with "how the hell we got here."

I thought it was good.
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 03:05
Obama's flubbing this question pretty hardcore.
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 03:05
OK... this is a weak answer for Obama....
Deus Malum
08-10-2008, 03:05
yeah, don't give them buzzwords, even if it sounds good live, that's not how they'll edit it in the commercials against you.

Like it's going to make a difference at this point.
Tiberiusa
08-10-2008, 03:05
I don't like it when he says this "yes, we ARE indeed the greatest nation on earth", does make him seem a bit tool-ish.

Well, if he said we weren't, McCain would have hit him for that.
Free Soviets
08-10-2008, 03:05
My anthropologist

do you have them on retainer?
Sdaeriji
08-10-2008, 03:06
McCain is a fucking asshole.
Shilah
08-10-2008, 03:06
I thought it was good.

I did too, but I can see the opposition latching on to the first part, repeating it over and over, and leaving off the second part of the line. That's the problem I have with it. It probably just ends up as ammunition.
Hydesland
08-10-2008, 03:06
Well, if he said we weren't, McCain would have hit him for that.

And this is what saddens me about politics.
Hammurab
08-10-2008, 03:06
At least you didn't say 'moist'.

EDIT: Crap. Now I said 'moist'.

Tom Brokaw will soon say "Its against the rules for Mr. Obama to use his turgid masculine potence to leave women audience members in slippery, dewey little puddles of their own quivering arousal, building, building to a thunderous, shivering orgasm of sound policy."
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 03:06
If that was McCain's heartbeat, they'd be calling it about now...
Sarkhaan
08-10-2008, 03:06
Iran, al qaeda...what, no North Korea?
Neo Art
08-10-2008, 03:06
People are just indifferent to what McCain says.
Knights of Liberty
08-10-2008, 03:06
I must have missed the part were this question was about Iraq.
Lunatic Goofballs
08-10-2008, 03:07
General "I want to have his children" Petraus.
Andaluciae
08-10-2008, 03:07
At least you didn't say 'moist'.

EDIT: Crap. Now I said 'moist'.

Shitshitshit.

We're both in trouble now...aren't we...

edit: Sidenote: I still owe you a beer.
Grave_n_idle
08-10-2008, 03:07
Tom Brokaw will soon say "Its against the rules for Mr. Obama to use his turgid masculine potence to leave women audience members in slippery, dewey little puddles of their own quivering arousal, building, building to a thunderous, shivering orgasm of sound policy."

Oooh, you know I love it when you talk like that....

*puddles*
Hammurab
08-10-2008, 03:07
do you have them on retainer?

I have them in a tent.
The_pantless_hero
08-10-2008, 03:07
McCain: "...my friends..."

http://origin.aintitcool.com/images2007/sp12.4.jpg

I'm not your friend, buddy!
Frisbeeteria
08-10-2008, 03:08
"We don't need a policy, we just need a strong hand at the tiller!"

Policy by impulse = fail, John