2nd NSG VP Debate Peanut Gallery-Live Commentary
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 01:49
I just watched Ifel limp in. Apparently she fell.
I'm not watching CNN with their stupid lines this time, someone else do it.
Hopefully someone didn't create a thread already while I was doing this.
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 01:50
Aww, I miss someone falling down?
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 01:51
I still say this debate should have been moderated by a juggling bear on a unicycle.
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 01:51
Aww, I miss someone falling down?
No, apparently before the debate. She came in on crutches with two helpers.
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 01:51
I still say this debate should have been moderated by a juggling bear on a unicycle.
But what if the bear get freaked out and starts mauling people?
You beat me to this thread :p
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 01:54
You beat me to this thread :p
YOU beat ME last time...I totally hosted all the live threads in 2004 and you robbed me of it this time round...sniffle...ya big meanie...at least mine made it into the archive and had a snappy name with a reference so dated McCain people might not get it...so there!
YOU beat ME last time...I totally hosted all the live threads in 2004 and you robbed me of it this time round...sniffle...ya big meanie...at least mine made it into the archive and had a snappy name with a reference so dated McCain people might not get it...so there!
you snooze you lose buster.
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 01:55
But what if the bear get freaked out and starts mauling people?
First three rows get free standing chairs and a whip?
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 01:55
Be nice children.
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 01:56
First three rows get free standing chairs and a whip?
I'd rather have a gun and tranquilizers. *nod*
Grave_n_idle
03-10-2008, 01:56
in.
Lunatic Goofballs
03-10-2008, 02:00
I have settled down with some tacos and diet pepsi and I am prepared for the fun. :)
Brandesax
03-10-2008, 02:02
This should be a fun debate, thats for sure.
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:02
WOO! It's beginning!
The lines are different this time around. "Uncommitted Ohio Voters".
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:03
Wow....Biden looks old....
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:03
"Can I call you Joe?"
It would be a bit of a mean move if he said "No."
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:03
C-SPAN is talking viewership numbers.
The question is how much is viewership will go up because of historic candidacy and how much because it's a freakshow?
Opening round!
Palin has 3 points from analysts. She hasn't SAID anything yet.
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:05
I have settled down with some tacos and diet pepsi and I am prepared for the fun. :)
Tacos would be awesome.
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:05
Palin has 3 points from analysts. She hasn't SAID anything yet.
She showed up, and on time.
Where are ya'll getting these points anyways?
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:05
The line for women just went off the charts as Biden talks.
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:05
Let's see how folksy she can be...
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:05
Palin has 3 points from analysts. She hasn't SAID anything yet.
Those are for her suit. It's very stylish.
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:05
Palin has 3 points from analysts. She hasn't SAID anything yet.
Remember the bar has been lowered for her, she didn't trip, she exceeded expectations.
we have to figure out, is this a good time or a bad time for the American economy?
...um, gee, I wonder
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:06
Let's see how folksy she can be...
Very folksy. First words out of her mouth included "mom" and "soccer game".
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:06
Let's see how folksy she can be...
We aren't we having popcorn?
She looks like a deer in headlights.
Brandesax
03-10-2008, 02:07
Yeah, I raised an eyebrow when she mentioned that soccer game thing
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:07
Biden hasn't launched onto a tangent yet. Looking good for him so far.
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:08
Yeah, I raised an eyebrow when she mentioned that soccer game thing
I thought hockey was her thing.
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:08
Biden's tactic seems to be to attack McCain instead of Palin, at least to start with. Smart?
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:09
I thought hockey was her thing.
"Soccer mom" is a recognized demographic.
Yes, McCain is the one running for president, not Palin. How can you attack Palin, she's not going to be president.
Palin went "Obama votes with his party!" bad tactic, that 90% figure is going to kick her in the ass.
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:09
Heh, well she's definitely new and different. So would be an outbreak of space plague.
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:09
Biden's tactic seems to be to attack McCain instead of Palin, at least to start with. Smart?
They decided that when Palin was picked that the focus was McCain.
Brandesax
03-10-2008, 02:09
I thought hockey was her thing.
Yeah, but she said a good judge of the economy was to go ask a mom at a soccer game what they thought (paraphrased).
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:11
joe six pack? heh. She reminds me of bush, only worse on that angle.
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:11
'Strict oversight'. Isn't that going against what many Republicans stand for?
Grave_n_idle
03-10-2008, 02:11
Biden didn't punish her for Obama's voting record. Along party lines, means OPPOSITE to the Bush pattern.
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:12
Listening to Palin, I feel like I'm at a 9th grade school debate event.
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:12
"Soccer mom" is a recognized demographic.
Yeah, but it was made up by (I think this is right) the Bill Clinton campaign, like NASCAR dads and Dean. Making up your own demographics is a recognized tool, too.
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:12
Wow, Men and women line went off the chart at the top for Palin.
CthulhuFhtagn
03-10-2008, 02:12
Yeah, but she said a good judge of the economy was to go ask a mom at a soccer game what they thought (paraphrased).
Having had experience with soccer moms, that question presumes a situation that may not actually apply.
Grave_n_idle
03-10-2008, 02:12
so far - the best palin is offering is increased government involvement. How ironic.
Brandesax
03-10-2008, 02:12
This is random, but Palin's smile kind of creeps me out. Though Biden looks a bit too serious as well (but I like that so...)
I don't know, I can't aford to fill it.
NICE
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:13
oooo story from Biden.
This moderation is... weird. She's like.... would you like to go off topic?
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:13
Yeah, but she said a good judge of the economy was to go ask a mom at a soccer game what they thought (paraphrased).
Youth soccer is where I go for my economic advice, how about you?
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:13
Palin is actually making sense....
Lunatic Goofballs
03-10-2008, 02:14
Tacos would be awesome.
Believe it or not, I am not always munching on tacos when I mention tacos. But right now I really am munching on a taco. *munch*
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:14
What does she think the 700 billion dollar bailout will do to the taxes on the middle class and what we'll be paying longterm?
Grave_n_idle
03-10-2008, 02:14
Good job he shut her down on the 94 votes thing.. and pointed out she's not answering questions
Biden is god
"notice she did not answer the question"
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:15
I'm gonna let you know what I did as mayor. I made people PAY if they were RAPED.
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:15
"I'm just gonna jabber on, y'all!"
and she got cut off. Good.
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:15
Palin is actually making sense....
No, she isn't. She's reciting talking points -- and points that happen to violate a lot of rightwing beliefs. She's also dodging questions.
Grave_n_idle
03-10-2008, 02:15
She... just admitted she won't answer the questions she's been asked...
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:15
We eliminated taxes because we had all this oil money, bet they didn't lose the tax on oil companies.
CthulhuFhtagn
03-10-2008, 02:16
Believe it or not, I am not always munching on tacos when I mention tacos. But right now I really am munching on a taco. *munch*
Nudge nudge wink wink say no more?
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:16
Life isn't fair Biden, welcome to the real world.
CthulhuFhtagn
03-10-2008, 02:16
She... just admitted she won't answer the questions she's been asked...
That means she's honest!
No, she isn't. She's reciting talking points -- and points that happen to violate a lot of rightwing beliefs. She's also dodging questions.
CNN analysts had her leading early on, Biden has surpassed. Score now 15 to 13 Biden.
um...businesses aren't taxed like people are.
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:18
Is she now raising patriotism questions? Really?
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:18
Go Palin, go!
Aperture Science
03-10-2008, 02:18
Pallin keeps stuttering. And, it may just be my bias, but it just SOUNDS like she's lying. Maybe its her attempts at being folksy with the 'ask a soccer mom' talk.
Forsakia
03-10-2008, 02:18
Biden's treating it as a debate, Palin's treating it as a series of commercials.
(generally speaking)
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:18
Wait.... increase government but decrease taxes?
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:19
She thinks privatising health care is a tax plan?
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:19
Lady, you're about to BE the feds if you win.
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:19
Biden is on the verge of laughing...
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:20
Wait.... increase government but decrease taxes?
Of course. Jesus makes it possible.
he completely cut down her "small business" argument.
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:20
Not everyone has a health care plan through their employer Biden....
Mokastana
03-10-2008, 02:20
vice presidential debates = my daddy can beat up your daddy!
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:21
Biden is on the verge of laughing...
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/horsey/viewbydate.asp?id=1833
Aperture Science
03-10-2008, 02:21
Oooooh, bridge to nowhere!
SICK BURN.
Grave_n_idle
03-10-2008, 02:21
bridge to nowhere - point to biden.
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:21
Ultimate bridge to nowhere. Nice. :D
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:21
Ouch!
Lunatic Goofballs
03-10-2008, 02:22
The Ultimate Bridge to Nowhere!
Aperture Science
03-10-2008, 02:22
It even got a laugh from the audience.
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:22
Not everyone has a health care plan through their employer Biden....
And when McCain gets elected, no one will.
Brandesax
03-10-2008, 02:22
"Ultimate Bridge to Nowhere"=lol on my part.
Still, I'm liking Biden. At least he using facts,figures,statistics, and overall empirical proof. Palin on the other hand...
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:22
Didn't Palin against the Bridge to no-where?
I'm shocked Caribou Barbie hasn't imploded yet.
Mokastana
03-10-2008, 02:22
charater-charat-charaterized
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:22
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/horsey/viewbydate.asp?id=1833
Quality.
Biden's actually doing an articulate, clear job here.
Didn't Palin against the Bridge to no-where?
Right after she was for it.
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:23
I like that he smiled after he screwed up
She took on oil companies? Isn't this the drill baby drill female?
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:24
"John McCain doesn't tell one group one thing and tell another thing something else."
"I support de-regulation!"
"This economic crisis is the result of too little regulation."
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:24
VP Debates: "I love the American people more." "NO I DO!"
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:24
Didn't Palin against the Bridge to no-where?
Only after congress nixed it. But she still kept the check.
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:24
Ye gods, she's a liar. McCain doesn't say one thing to one group and something else to another? Oh really? She's the enemy of the oil companies? Seriously?
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:25
LOL she's basically saying she took the oil money and gave it to her state, hence allowing her to lower the taxes on the people in her state. So what about states that don't have oil?
Grave_n_idle
03-10-2008, 02:25
is it just me - or is biden actually doing a better job than his partner did?
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:26
is it just me - or is biden actually doing a better job than his partner did?
Well, he does have more experience than Obama. ;)
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:26
LOL she's basically saying she took the oil money and gave it to her state, hence allowing her to lower the taxes on the people in her state. So what about states that don't have oil?
They can suck it, clearly.
Does Biden do anything else but throw around big numbers and repeat the names of Barack Obama and John McCain?
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:26
Yes, let us tax incomes more! *ugh*
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:27
Is it just me, or is Palin getting a little bit shaky?
Didn't Palin against the Bridge to no-where?
No.
She was for it, and then blatantly lied about her support.
Aperture Science
03-10-2008, 02:27
Corruption and greed on wall street! Shock! I had not realized that wall street was greedy. I thought they were in it for me!
My worldview is shattered.
Grave_n_idle
03-10-2008, 02:27
one trick pony - 'corruption' 'greed'... she knows that scores well. Biden needs to point out that the GOP have already said they'll block McCain if he tried to oppose earmarks, for example.
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:28
Does Biden do anything else but throw around big numbers and repeat the names of Barack Obama and John McCain?
What a bastard, respecting the audience's intelligence with specifics and focusing on the people running for president...
Brandesax
03-10-2008, 02:28
Hmm, Palin's creepy (in my view) smile has disappeared to a degree.
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:28
30 to 17 Biden
Where are you getting these numbers? j/w
Is it just me, or is Palin getting a little bit shaky?
yeah, she's running out of talking points that McCain has told her to say.
Mokastana
03-10-2008, 02:29
VP debate: YOUR LYING! I WILL CUT TAXES!
Sarkhaan
03-10-2008, 02:29
Is she ever actually going to answer one question?
Aperture Science
03-10-2008, 02:29
"Thats not so, but I'm going to change the subject now."
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:29
Holy shit. Palin seems to think she's the moderator, the way she picks what she's going to talk about and when.
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:30
"I'm going to change the topic to energy!"
What a bastard, respecting the audience's intelligence with specifics and focusing on the people running for president...
Nobody is interested in specifics and throwing big numbers in every sentence is not catchy and obfuscates the point.
Aperture Science
03-10-2008, 02:30
The Republican VP candidate is talking about pumping billions of dollars into countries that hate us? Is she trying to blame that on the democrats?
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:30
Corruption and greed on wall street! Shock! I had not realized that wall street was greedy. I thought they were in it for me!
My worldview is shattered.
http://capitalist.blog.is/users/82/capitalist/img/c_documents_and_settings_alan_desktop_gordon-gekko.jpg
The slicked back hair should have been a tip off...
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:30
This moderator is not... moderating. Like... answer my questions.
Lol, she got infront of the moderator.
where are you getting these numbers? J/w
cnn
Grave_n_idle
03-10-2008, 02:31
call the mods! she just flat-out refused to answer the question.
If you don't care about what caused global warming and don't want to know how it works, how the hell do you expect to fix it? WTF?
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:32
I don't know if we caused Global Warming, but I want to fix it!
Biden should just say "If you don't think we're the cause of global warming, how do you think we can fix it if we've done nothing to influence us?"
"I don't want to talk about the causes"
Isn't that what she..you know, asked you to do?
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:32
We're one of the worst producers of pollution per person....
CthulhuFhtagn
03-10-2008, 02:32
Nobody is interested in specifics and throwing big numbers in every sentence is not catchy and obfuscates the point.
I'm interested in specifics.
Dempublicents1
03-10-2008, 02:32
I think she almost answered a question!!! :eek:
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:33
This moderator is not... moderating. Like... answer my questions.
They spent the last two days laying the groundwork so that if the moderator so much as calls time on her it's a clear sign of bias.
Brandesax
03-10-2008, 02:33
"If you don't understand the cause you can't come up with a solution" (paraphrased because I can never get quotes exactly unless I have it written down somewhere).
Point for Biden?
Sarkhaan
03-10-2008, 02:33
I'm interested in specifics.
As am I. The more, the better.
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:33
Factcheck.org must be having a fieldday with this debate
Dempublicents1
03-10-2008, 02:34
They spent the last two days laying the groundwork so that if the moderator so much as calls time on her it's a clear sign of bias.
Didn't stop her, though - it's been done once already. =)
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:34
... drill baby drill. She takes that as a beneficial name? wow.
Sarkhaan
03-10-2008, 02:35
"domestic solution"...does that not include clean energy?
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:35
If you don't care about what caused global warming and don't want to know how it works, how the hell do you expect to fix it? WTF?
I don't know if we caused Global Warming, but I want to fix it!
Biden should just say "If you don't think we're the cause of global warming, how do you think we can fix it if we've done nothing to influence us?"
Jon Stewart nailed that last night, "You have lung cancer. We don't know what caused it, but here take this cigarette, we're sure it will help." (paraphrased)
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:35
Biden is completely destroying McCain on this topic. "Here's not only how we can solve our part, here's how we can start fixing it in other places."
Palin: "DRILL! THAT'S HOW WE FIX THE PROBLEM! IF WE OVERLOAD THE SYSTEM, WE CAN RAPE IT AND THEN MAKE IT PAY FOR IT!"
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:35
Nucular. I fucking HATE that.
I'm interested in specifics.
Then look them up from alternative sources.
Unless you have excellent memory you can't remember exact numbers...Therefore what the debate is to get the point across, not to teach the viewer/listener the specifics.
Numbers in every goddamn reply is simply tedious to listen to.
note: I'm NOT for McCain/Palin.
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:36
Factcheck.org must be having a fieldday with this debate
They're probably on the phone right now increasing their storage size...
Brandesax
03-10-2008, 02:36
Oooooh, same-sex marriage. This should be good. Get me my popcorn.
Barringtonia
03-10-2008, 02:36
Moderator's not doing much for me.
Sarah Palin seems to have a single tone, a running monologue, it makes the brain switch off at some point.
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:37
OOoo, let's see how Palin does on this....
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:37
Wait.
WAIT.
Alaska supports same-sex marriages?
Doesn't that go against a huge part of the conservative base?
Grave_n_idle
03-10-2008, 02:37
Then look them up from alternative sources.
Unless you have excellent memory you can't remember exact numbers...Therefore what the debate is to get the point across, not to teach the viewer/listener the specifics.
Numbers in every goddamn reply is simply tedious to listen to.
note: I'm NOT for McCain/Palin.
Yeah - I know I hate the idea that someone actually knows what they are talking about.
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:37
She bombed this question.
Numbers mean you actually have a plan of some sort that has been worked out to the poing of having realistic numbers, rather than just talking out of an southern orifice.
Dempublicents1
03-10-2008, 02:38
You guys must be getting it slightly before me.
LOL, "I can't be bigoted, I've got gay friends!"
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:38
Well, I won't hate the gays...hows that?
Yeah, not good. Sorry.
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:39
So she's not intolerant; she just wants to deny rights to gays.
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:39
Good for Biden, he's in favor of leaving it up to the people, leave government out of it!
New Genoa
03-10-2008, 02:39
We're tolerant of gays, that's why we don't support gay marriage. Arseholes
Aperture Science
03-10-2008, 02:39
Moderator just scored a point :P
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:39
Except they don't really agree...
Sarkhaan
03-10-2008, 02:39
that was very short for gay marriage...
Brandesax
03-10-2008, 02:39
"I'm tolerant" (repeats)
"Traditional definition of marriage is between man and woman."
"I do not support gay marriage"
Uhh......
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On Biden's view I lost some respect, but at least he seems better than Palin...
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:40
We already heard this point, no?
Dempublicents1
03-10-2008, 02:40
The moderator really should have followed up with a "Do you support civil unions"? question.
She left them looking essentially the same when, in actuality, they're not.
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:40
First she called Obama unpatriotic. Now she's saying he doesn't support the troops. Amazing with the low blows.
Sarkhaan
03-10-2008, 02:41
what is a "win" in Iraq?
Aperture Science
03-10-2008, 02:41
'We need to grow our military.'
Great. Just great >_>;
with all due respect, I didn't hear a plan.
Nice.
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:42
Will Palin just say "If McCain is elected, he will support the draft" so we can guarantee they throw the election?
Yeah - I know I hate the idea that someone actually knows what they are talking about.
What does that have to do with anything?
I'm just disliking the dry way of mentioning vote counts, percents and billions in every answer - Can't Biden say anything without mentioning them?
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:42
LMAO. That hesitation... priceless.
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:43
"Barack Obama still can't admit the surge worked"
Didn't he say the "surge worked beyond his wildest dreams?"
Aperture Science
03-10-2008, 02:43
Did she just say 'Maliki and the Taliban are working with us'?
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:43
Flag of surrender???
Obama doesn't admit the surge worked??? A lie that was debunked twice in the last debate???
Shit.
Dempublicents1
03-10-2008, 02:43
Wow, even she had to pause before suggesting that a timed withdrawal is "a white flag of retreat"
Sarkhaan
03-10-2008, 02:43
nice hit on Palin's part
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:44
with all due respect, I didn't hear a plan.
Nice.
It was pretty good...
WHAT? "You're plan is a white flag of surrender?"
It's Maliki's plan, too...
my head almost exploded...
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:45
This thing is heating up.
Sarkhaan
03-10-2008, 02:45
Did she just say 'Maliki and the Taliban are working with us'?
Talabani. President of Iraq.
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:45
McCain voted against tools that are keeping your son safe, and you still support him?
Nice hit for Biden.
Barringtonia
03-10-2008, 02:45
I swear to God, that's the 50th time I've heard 'Barack Obama can't admit the surge is working' - he's admitted it multiple times, including the last debate with John McCain, who himself repeated this false statement right after Barack Obama said it was working.
It's incredible.
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:45
Wow....McCain wrong, Obama right......yea, that's not an biased opinion at all Biden...
Aperture Science
03-10-2008, 02:46
Talabani. President of Iraq.
Aaaahhh. Pronunciation is key :P
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:46
What does that have to do with anything?
I'm just disliking the dry way of mentioning vote counts, percents and billions in every answer - Can't Biden say anything without mentioning them?
How about if he holds a sparkler while he does it, would that make it entertaining enough?
Biden just WRECKED her on that round.
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:46
Now Biden isn't answering the question....
Grave_n_idle
03-10-2008, 02:46
What does that have to do with anything?
I'm just disliking the dry way of mentioning vote counts, percents and billions in every answer - Can't Biden say anything without mentioning them?
Sure.
But why would he?
This isn't JUST about being good viewing - people will sit down after, and try to work out who HAS a plan. Biden wants to look like he really knows what he's talking about.
Sarkhaan
03-10-2008, 02:47
Aaaahhh. Pronunciation is key :P
I thought the same thing for a second...haha
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:47
Palin isn't answering the question either....well she just did.
Brandesax
03-10-2008, 02:47
Finally, someone who mentions competing for the hearts and minds of the people! That's probably more important than the military part of the war if you ask me.
Wow....McCain wrong, Obama right......yea, that's not an biased opinion at all Biden...
you do realize who he's running with, right? He's not a journalist. He's not a moderator. He's the vice president nominee for the democratic ticket. Of COURSE he's going to be biased.
He's SUPPOSED to be biased. If he thought the republicans were right, I'd seriously think something was wrong.
Aperture Science
03-10-2008, 02:47
The center of the war on terror is Iraq!
Ahhh, man. I lol'd.
Now Biden isn't answering the question....
Of course he did, he answered. Pakistan, since they're ALREADY nuclear and that's where Al Qaeda is.
Seemed pretty clear to me.
Grave_n_idle
03-10-2008, 02:48
Biden should point out that the Ayatollah is the leader in Iran...
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:48
Wow....McCain wrong, Obama right......yea, that's not an biased opinion at all Biden...
He's on one side of the debate...kind of expected, sort of like chiding Usain Bolt for running fast trying to win a race...
Dempublicents1
03-10-2008, 02:48
I can't go through 4 more years of politicians who can't pronounce nuclear. Seriously.
Lunatic Goofballs
03-10-2008, 02:48
Biden stomped her on Pakistan/Iran/Iraq
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:48
you do realize who he's running with, right? He's not a journalist. He's not a moderator. He's the vice president nominee for the democratic ticket. Of COURSE he's going to be biased.
He's SUPPOSED to be biased. If he thought the republicans were right, I'd seriously think something was wrong.
It just seemed like he was giving Obama a mental Fellatio. Palin was giving McCain a mental Fellatio too.
Lunatic Goofballs
03-10-2008, 02:49
*grits teeth* Nucular. :mad:
Barringtonia
03-10-2008, 02:49
Okay, John McCain did that as well, how do Americans pronounce 'naivety', because it sounds real odd to me.
How about if he holds a sparkler while he does it, would that make it entertaining enough?
Would it win more votes?
"What do you think of <issue>?"
"billions, voted 20 times, x percent"
I'd rather listen to Palin, even though she's not quite up to speed with reality(tm) and OTOH would most certainly vote Biden.
Trans Fatty Acids
03-10-2008, 02:50
can we take away 1 point from Palin for saying "hate our freedoms"?
Sarkhaan
03-10-2008, 02:50
Women's rights? I almost peed.
Really? Like the right to bodily integrity?
Dempublicents1
03-10-2008, 02:50
Did Palin actually just say "respect for women's rights"?
Did anyone else snort?
Lunatic Goofballs
03-10-2008, 02:50
Henry Kissinger is to democracy what John Hinkley Jr. is to gun safety. :p
Is there an unwritten k in Ahmadinejad's name that I don't know about?
I know this has probably been said 50 times, but seriously: NUKE-LEE-ER. It's not that fucking hard.
Brandesax
03-10-2008, 02:50
YES!!!Biden mentions Ahmendinijad (however it's spelled) isn't in control of security and that the theocracy is.
Barringtonia
03-10-2008, 02:50
Diplomacy is hard work for serious people - remember that kiddies,
Ooh, Biden actually mentioned that Ach-long last name isnt actually the truth in Iran.
New Genoa
03-10-2008, 02:50
Women's rights? I almost peed.
Really? Like the right to bodily integrity?
And the reason they hate us is because we has freedoms. Not anything to do with foreign or economic policy in the region. Nope, no siree.
Biden should point out that the Ayatollah is the leader in Iran...
He just did.
Dempublicents1
03-10-2008, 02:51
Yikes, Biden. Actually, Obama did originally say he'd talk with Ahmadinejad.
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:51
BOOM! Hit on Spain!
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:52
I can't go through 4 more years of politicians who can't pronounce nuclear. Seriously.
Same here. For crying out loud.
Ooh, Biden actually mentioned that Ach-long last name isnt actually the truth in Iran.
I was impressed.
FFS, I want to slap her. I REALLY want to slap her.
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:52
An embassy in Jerusalem will be a nice target....
Brandesax
03-10-2008, 02:52
"Second Holocaust"
Did Palin just invoke Godwin's Law?
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:52
Nice zing on who is in charge in Iran...
...no holocaust...well, that's brave to come out anti holocaust...
Sarkhaan
03-10-2008, 02:52
she dropped "holocaust"...really?
BOOM! Hit on Spain!
I love that. :)
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:53
Godwin!
Myedvedeya
03-10-2008, 02:54
Palin won't answer the questions! Even if she was saying things I agreed with, she just isn't answering the questions posed to her, and its' annoying the hell out of me...
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:54
When has Diplomacy actually worked with extremist?
This isn't JUST about being good viewing - people will sit down after, and try to work out who HAS a plan. Biden wants to look like he really knows what he's talking about.
Aye, he seems to know what he's speaking of - The question is, does the average voter care?
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:54
lol. *hug* moment!
she dropped "holocaust"...really?
Yeah, godwin.
Godwin!
50 Hitler post. Now let's please return to normalcy.
Lunatic Goofballs
03-10-2008, 02:55
When has Diplomacy actually worked with extremist?
*cough* Ireland. *cough*
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:55
And the reason they hate us is because we has freedoms. Not anything to do with foreign or economic policy in the region. Nope, no siree.
We're freedom lovers...don't tell Canada...[/David Cross]
was that a big inhale or a hiss or what?
Myedvedeya
03-10-2008, 02:55
Oh, Wow... she says Israel is good... and that the Bush Administration was bad... she's a visionary, aint she... no one's thought of that before.
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:55
for a ticket that wants change, there's too much talking about what they want to change? Is that essentially what she just said?
Wilgrove
03-10-2008, 02:55
She invoked the Maverick Card!
was that a big inhale or a hiss or what?
gas leak *nods*
Dempublicents1
03-10-2008, 02:56
Is she using the online Sarah Palin quote generator now?
Sarkhaan
03-10-2008, 02:56
and he invoked the George Bush card
Erastide
03-10-2008, 02:56
God, how many times can he say George Bush
Myedvedeya
03-10-2008, 02:57
HOLY GOD LEARN TO PRONOUNCE ENGLISH BEFORE YOU RUN FOR HIGH OFFICE!!!!!!
*runs ears through cheese grater*
Sarkhaan
03-10-2008, 02:57
Is she using the online Sarah Palin quote generator now?
there's one of those?! :eek2:
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:57
God, how many times can he say George Bush
As many times as it takes.
Aperture Science
03-10-2008, 02:57
Nukular nukular nukular nukular nukular kim jung ul subject change afghanistan surge
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:57
God, how many times can he say George Bush
as many times as it takes to win the election
Dempublicents1
03-10-2008, 02:57
I think she just said it right, but only once.
Do you think "Nucular" is an affectation?
Cannot think of a name
03-10-2008, 02:58
God, how many times can he say George Bush
It was a good slam, "You keep saying your different but not what would be different."
Sarkhaan
03-10-2008, 02:58
terrorists! democracy! schools!
Lunatic Goofballs
03-10-2008, 02:58
Every time she says Nucular, God nukes a kitten. :(
Dempublicents1
03-10-2008, 02:58
there's one of those?! :eek2:
http://palinquotes.sillycloud.com/
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 02:58
Is she actually telling us that the Iraq war is not killing civilians!!!????
*head asplodey*
Tiberiusa
03-10-2008, 02:58
"We're not just killing civilians. We're fighting terrorists!"