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Why do cheerleaders look down on people?

Now why do I look down on people?

What do cheerleaders do on people they look down on?

What do I do to people I look down on?

Understand?

So, you look down on more than 98% of the population who has sexual attraction, while cheerleaders, at least at my school, generally don't look down upon anyone?

Who's the second?
Kryozerkia

Why do cheerleaders look down on people?

Now why do I look down on people?

What do cheerleaders do on people they look down on?

What do I do to people I look down on?

Understand?

I understand perfectly.

You create a version of "cheerleader" without substantiation, a version refuted many times. A version you have never substantiated.

Then when people point out you do the very same thing you accuse others of doing, you become defensive, you blame a "condition", you do everything other than admitting that yes, you are JUST as bad as whatever you're attacking.

Instead of actuallly admitting it, you make excuses, you blame everything else. You try to make it look different, that somehow in your case it's justified, in your case it's acceptable, in your case it's just not your fault.

I understand. You're a hypocrite, you're discpicable, and you're too big of a coward to even admit it.

Oh, Naltir? Didn't you read? He's from the ghetto, he sees whores all the time on his way to school which is why he's the authority on how they dress like NFL cheerleaders.

*shakes head*

They have the same size of skirts, and the same size of tops. That's all I'm going to say, since if I say anything more you just won't read it.

Oh, Naltir? Didn't you read? He's from the ghetto, he sees whores all the time on his way to school which is why he's the authority on how they dress like NFL cheerleaders.

Well, you see, the truth is that he lives in the same neighborhood as the rejects for NFL cheerleading. Their situation has forced them into prostitution, and the only clothes they have left are their cheerleading clothes. Its an easy mistake to make, you see. :p

And just because there hasn't been a study doesn't mean it's not true.

You make the claim, you're the one who gets to prove it. Doesn't mean it is true either. And the way logic in THIS universe works is the one making the claim makes the justification.

I dunno about you guys, but thinking about asexual people gets me all hot and bothered.

you just weird

I understand perfectly.

You create a version of "cheerleader" without substantiation, a version refuted many times. A version you have never substantiated.

Then when people point out you do the very same thing you accuse others of doing, you become defensive, you blame a "condition", you do everything other than admitting that yes, you are JUST as bad as whatever you're attacking.

Instead of actuallly admitting it, you make excuses, you blame everything else. You try to make it look different, that somehow in your case it's justified, in your case it's acceptable, in your case it's just not your fault.

I understand. You're a hypocrite, you're discpicable, and you're too big of a coward to even admit it.
I think in psychology they call that denial. See? we're teaching you stuff already.

That's because you're bi, so you understand both sides. I'm a, so I don't understand either side.
I'm not aboriginal, that doesn't give me the right to look down on their culture or traditions.

Furthermore, being bi doesn't mean you see "both sides" really...

And just because there hasn't been a study doesn't mean it's not true.
Just because there isn't a study on it doesn't mean you can make unsubstantiated claims.

So, you look down on more than 98% of the population who has sexual attraction, while cheerleaders, at least at my school, generally don't look down upon anyone?

Really? Your school has some seriously wierd cheerleaders. The cheerleaders at my school despise me.

That isn't to say that I haven't earned it, but still...

So, you look down on more than 98% of the population who has sexual attraction, while cheerleaders, at least at my school, generally don't look down upon anyone?

Ok, listen. I don't look down on people to the point to where I wouldn't give them the time of day or a quarter if they asked. I look down on people to the point to where I won't take them talking about their sexuality openly, which I have a tendency to see alot. The way cheerleaders look down on people and the way I do is completely different.

Umm... I did admit that I was wrong. Like, two pages ago.
No you didn't. You just said that pimps weren't hurting anyone.

Ok, listen. I don't look down on people to the point to where I wouldn't give them the time of day or a quarter if they asked. I look down on people to the point to where I won't take them talking about their sexuality openly, which I have a tendency to see alot. The way cheerleaders look down on people and the way I do is completely different.
:rolleyes: Oh, please do explain that one.

Ok, listen. I don't look down on people to the point to where I wouldn't give them the time of day or a quarter if they asked. I look down on people to the point to where I won't take them talking about their sexuality openly, which I have a tendency to see alot.

You won't "take them"? You won't "stand for it?" Who the fuck do you think you are where you get the right to tell ANYONE, EVER what they should talk about?

You don't have that right, you don't have that authority. You don't like what people talk about? Too fucking bad. People say whatever they want to say, welcome to america.

Now deal with it.

You know what I think? I think you're a coward. I think you talk big, I think you make a good show, I think you talk about how you "won't take them talking about their sexuality openly" but you're too much of a coward to actually say a word. You know that if you tried to make people put up with your bullshit you'd get your ass kicked. So you're too much of a coward to actually stand up for even your own warped perceptions of reality and your self importance.

So you come on here where it's safe, and you bitch. And when actually dare to stand up to you HERE, in your little "safe haven" you just can't take it...after all this is where you're supposed to be safe from the mean mean world, and you just can't handle actually standing up to someone...so you slip to insults, again, where it's safe.

The way cheerleaders look down on people and the way I do is completely different.

Bullshit.

you just weird

And you're hot. Can I see you naked?

I understand perfectly.

You create a version of "cheerleader" without substantiation, a version refuted many times. A version you have never substantiated.

Then when people point out you do the very same thing you accuse others of doing, you become defensive, you blame a "condition", you do everything other than admitting that yes, you are JUST as bad as whatever you're attacking.

Instead of actuallly admitting it, you make excuses, you blame everything else. You try to make it look different, that somehow in your case it's justified, in your case it's acceptable, in your case it's just not your fault.

I understand. You're a hypocrite, you're discpicable, and you're too big of a coward to even admit it.

God... Isn't that what everbody on NSG does? Really, isn't it? How in hell am I any different. Look through any thread, and you will see the exact god damned thing.

God... Isn't that what everbody on NSG does? Really, isn't it? How in hell am I any different. Look through any thread, and you will see the exact god damned thing.

The trick is to develop a metaphorical thick skin.

:rolleyes: Oh, please do explain that one.

He looks down on them for being normal people. They look down on him for not being normal.

Like most High Schoolers, they have yet to realize that there is no such thing as a normal person, just normal behaviors.

Ok, listen. I don't look down on people to the point to where I wouldn't give them the time of day or a quarter if they asked. I look down on people to the point to where I won't take them talking about their sexuality openly, which I have a tendency to see alot. The way cheerleaders look down on people and the way I do is completely different.
Why aren't people allowed to discuss their sexuality openly? It's part of human nature, a fun part of human nature so people will talk about it. Your problem is that you expect everyone to accept your sexual orientation while you refuse to accept theirs. That's really just bigotry, I don't care if you're in the minority here, you can still be a bigot.

And you're hot. Can I see you naked?

Tell me this guy isn't for real...

Ok, listen. I don't look down on people to the point to where I wouldn't give them the time of day or a quarter if they asked. I look down on people to the point to where I won't take them talking about their sexuality openly, which I have a tendency to see alot. The way cheerleaders look down on people and the way I do is completely different.

So, its okay for you to talk about your sexuality for about 30 something pages but if a cheerleader wears the wrong clothing, she has commited some offense? That is messed up.

:rolleyes: Oh, please do explain that one.

I explained it in the SAME GOD DAMNED POST THAT YOU QUOTED.

God... Isn't that what everbody on NSG does? Really, isn't it? How in hell am I any different. Look through any thread, and you will see the exact god damned thing.
No, you really don't see it everywhere. Some people come up with reasonable and well founded arguments instead of just calling people whores.

Tell me this guy isn't for real...

I'm realer than your sex drive, buddy.

You won't "take them"? You won't "stand for it?" Who the fuck do you think you are where you get the right to tell ANYONE, EVER what they should talk about?

You don't have that right, you don't have that authority. You don't like what people talk about? Too fucking bad. People say whatever they want to say, welcome to america.

Now deal with it.



Bullshit.

Hey, guess what. I DO NOT ATTACK PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY TALK ABOUT THEIR SEXUALITY. I complain about them, certainly, and I look in disgust and turn my head when they talk about it, but I don't attack them openly.

I'm realer than your sex drive, buddy.
That's not saying much...

Hey, guess what. I DO NOT ATTACK PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY TALK ABOUT THEIR SEXUALITY. I complain about them, certainly, and I look in disgust and turn my head when they talk about it, but I don't attack them openly.
You have cheerleaders physically assaulting people at your school? What the fudge?

So, its okay for you to talk about your sexuality for about 30 something pages but if a cheerleader wears the wrong clothing, she has commited some offense? That is messed up.

Oh my god...

The cheerleader is wearing something slutty.

I'm talking about not understanding anything slutty.

Tell me, most heterosexuals look down on gay "mating dances" because they don't understand it, correct?

It's the same with us asexuals. We don't understand sexual attraction and drive, so therefore some of us choose to look down on it. Not saying Chand does this too, but I and some people on AVEN do it too.

Okay. I don't look down on it, exactly. It's just something that I have no interest in, and that I don't really comprehend.

I don't like stereotypes. I don't like it when people assume that all cheerleaders or just people who like to wear certain types of clothes are somehow automatically sluts, just as I hate it when people assume that all asexuals must be either repressed homosexuals, liars, or were abused as children.

Naliitr, I can see why you might feel the way that you do. I can't speak for you, but I know that I personally feel somewhat alienated when I see people expressing feelings which I've never felt and when I see the idea everywhere, even in classes, that "everyone wants sex". I've even been told by a friend that "There can't possibly be asexual people. You have to have felt some sort of sexual attraction sometime."

The sorts of clothing that you detest do seem to be connected to sex by ads and the media, because I guess that somehow makes sexual people more likely to buy it. That doesn't mean that everyone who wears the clothing is neccesarily wearing it for that reason. And even if they are, I've decided that, personally, that's really no concern of mine. It just seems to me that there are a lot more important things about people then something like clothes.

That's not saying much...

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You have cheerleaders physically assaulting people at your school? What the fudge?

No... I was just saying that he seems to think that I attack people because of their sexuality, and I was saying I wasn't.

Oh my god...

The cheerleader is wearing something slutty.

I'm talking about not understanding anything slutty.
Ok, so you can spend 30 pages bitching about something you don't understand and defining it while discussing your own sexuality and that's fine. But someone mentioning that they got laid is to be looked down upon?

No... I was just saying that he seems to think that I attack people because of their sexuality, and I was saying I wasn't.
Except that you said that you just don't do what cheerleaders do, which apparently consists of attacking people.

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Hardly, he's been going on about how he's asexual for 30 pages.

Hey, guess what. I DO NOT ATTACK PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY TALK ABOUT THEIR SEXUALITY. I complain about them, certainly, and I look in disgust and turn my head when they talk about it, but I don't attack them openly.

oh really?

Pray tell what is this thread about then, exactly?

I explained it in the SAME GOD DAMNED POST THAT YOU QUOTED.
*rereads post*

What, you look down on people by deriding their sexuality and they look down on people by refusing to tell them what time it is or refusing to give them a quarter?

Hey, guess what. I DO NOT ATTACK PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY TALK ABOUT THEIR SEXUALITY. I complain about them, certainly, and I look in disgust and turn my head when they talk about it, but I don't attack them openly.

And saying it behind their back is clearly better than saying it to their faces.

Even so, I must admit I have met some cheerleaders like the ones you describe.

Ok guys, how about this.

I lie, I say I'm a completely horny bisexual guy.

I lie, I say I love sexuality.

I lie, I say I understand sexuality.

I lie, I say that I love cheerleaders.

Would that make everbody happy, since I'm abandoning what I believe in just because I "can't support it", even though it is something I strongly believe in?

That's not saying much...
*hits ceremonial snare and cymbol.*

Oh my god...

The cheerleader is wearing something slutty.



so

the hell

what?

Ok guys, how about this.

I lie, I say I'm a completely horny bisexual guy.

I lie, I say I love sexuality.

I lie, I say I understand sexuality.

I lie, I say that I love cheerleaders.

Would that make everbody happy, since I'm abandoning what I believe in just because I "can't support it", even though it is something I strongly believe in?
No, what would make us all feel better is if you stopped attacking people because they have sexual desire and you don't and if you would stop denigrating women.

Ok guys, how about this.

I lie, I say I'm a completely horny bisexual guy.

I lie, I say I love sexuality.

I lie, I say I understand sexuality.

I lie, I say that I love cheerleaders.

Would that make everbody happy, since I'm abandoning what I believe in just because I "can't support it", even though it is something I strongly believe in?

You don't have to be sexual, you don't have to understand sexuality. You don't have to love anyone.

However you're absolutly totally dispicable as a human being the moment you expect people to live by YOUR version of morality, and get pissy and refuse to accept that some people simply don't care what YOUR version of morality is and refuse to live by it.

That's the problem.

You don't have to be sexual, you don't have to understand sexuality. You don't have to love anyone.

However you're absolutly totally dispicable as a human being the moment you expect people to live by YOUR version of morality, and get pissy and refuse to accept that some people simply don't care what YOUR version of morality is and refuse to live by it.

That's the problem.

Oh, and that's what no one else does?

Ok guys, how about this.

I lie, I say I'm a completely horny bisexual guy.

I lie, I say I love sexuality.

I lie, I say I understand sexuality.

I lie, I say that I love cheerleaders.

Would that make everbody happy, since I'm abandoning what I believe in just because I "can't support it", even though it is something I strongly believe in?

I'm completly fine with your aversion to sexuality. Thats your own lifestyle decision. What I'm not fine with is that your attacking something that you can't understand and then go further to say that people consistantly do that to you. If that happens to you and you don't like it, then you shouldn't do it to other people because you know how it feels.

You don't have to be sexual, you don't have to understand sexuality. You don't have to love anyone.

However you're absolutly totally dispicable as a human being the moment you expect people to live by YOUR version of morality, and get pissy and refuse to accept that some people simply don't care what YOUR version of morality is and refuse to live by it.

That's the problem.
That was definitely much better than what I said.

*rereads post*

What, you look down on people by deriding their sexuality and they look down on people by refusing to tell them what time it is or refusing to give them a quarter?

Somewhat. Except cheerleaders do much more than just refuse simple, polite things.

Oh, and that's what no one else does?
grr... ok, since when did we go back to grade 2 when it was alright to do something bad/mean just because someone else did it?

That was definitely much better than what I said.

Ditto.

Oh, and that's what no one else does?

And once again we see you failing to take responsibility for your actions. Except now it's not "I have a condition!" or "It's different when I do it!" it's "well other people do it too!"

We're not talking about other people here buddy, we're talking about you. We're talking about YOUR bigotry. We're talking about YOUR sexism. We're talking about YOUR intolerance. We're talking about YOUR cowardly actions. We're talking about YOUR issues.

YOU made this post, YOU put yourself on the line, YOU made your own beliefs the topic of this discussion. What other people do is irrelevant. You made this about YOU. so we're talking about YOU.

Oh, and that's what no one else does?

So you don't make your own decisions instead basing them on what everyone else does?

grr... ok, since when did we go back to grade 2 when it was alright to do something bad/mean just because someone else did it?

Since I was sick and tired of getting pushed around by people, telling me I'm a freak for not feeling sexual attraction, telling me that it's not normal, that it's unacceptable, that it's not natural, that it's not right, that, yes, one person said this, it's evil. If I'm not allowed to feel comfortable about my sexuality... Well... Yeah...

The fact is WE are not harassing you for your asexuality. YOU are the one who uses it as a crutch. You are the one who uses it as justification for your actions. You are the one who seems to think it excuses you from decent human behavior.

The fact is many better men than you have suffered far worse afflictions and not slipped into the depths of slime and indecency you have, so stop using it as justification. I frankly just don't buy it.

Since I was sick and tired of getting pushed around by people, telling me I'm a freak for not feeling sexual attraction, telling me that it's not normal, that it's unacceptable, that it's not natural, that it's not right, that, yes, one person said this, it's evil. If I'm not allowed to feel comfortable about my sexuality... Well... Yeah...

None of which, NONE of it, gives you any excuse to do the same.

So you don't make your own decisions instead basing them on what everyone else does?

Oh, I make my own decisions. It's just that I appear to be slightly normal by doing what others do as well.

Oh, I make my own decisions. It's just that I appear to be slightly normal by doing what others do as well.

and once again you dodge personal responsibility. You excuse your behavior by what "others" do, without supplying evidence to support that claim.

Stop being a child and grow up. You and you alone are responsible for your behavior. Therefore the blame for your actions falls upon you, and you alone.

Since I was sick and tired of getting pushed around by people, telling me I'm a freak for not feeling sexual attraction, telling me that it's not normal, that it's unacceptable, that it's not natural, that it's not right, that, yes, one person said this, it's evil. If I'm not allowed to feel comfortable about my sexuality... Well... Yeah...

Look, buddy, I really don't consider myself the most attractive human being. Hell, I'll probably never get laid. But I don't let that stop me from being who I want to be and you shouldn't let it either. Don't let Bigotry, your own and others, stop you from doing that.

Since I was sick and tired of getting pushed around by people, telling me I'm a freak for not feeling sexual attraction, telling me that it's not normal, that it's unacceptable, that it's not natural, that it's not right, that, yes, one person said this, it's evil. If I'm not allowed to feel comfortable about my sexuality... Well... Yeah...
Oh, so first of all, you're letting people get to you way too much. Secondly, hurling insults at us does not correct this wrong you have suffered... all it does is eliminate any sympathy you could have possibly gained and pissed people off.

Furthermore, you haven't just been attempting to make others feel that their sexual attraction is wrong (which isn't going to happen, buddy) you've also been insulting an entire gender with unsubstantiated claims of affirmative action, getting skipped in line for voting and the like as well as saying that they are incapable of dressing for themselves, instead dressing for men. You definitely don't seem to like women.

I want you all to answer me honestly now...

Am I really such a bad person as you describe?

Am I really that despicable?

Am I really that much of an asshole?

Am I really that idiotic?

Am I really that much of a jack ass?

Am I really that stupid?

Am I really that evil?

Am I really that terrible?

Do I, as I feel I deserve, deserve to be shot, and thrown into a ditch?

Answer me honestly. Don't spare my feelings, not that you would anyways, and not that you should.

I think we've made our points and that its time to end this.

I want you all to answer me honestly now...

Am I really such a bad person as you describe?

If the person you are is the person you appear to be, yes.

Am I really that despicable?

If the person you are is the person you appear to be, yes.

Am I really that much of an asshole?

If the person you are is the person you appear to be, yes.

Am I really that idiotic?

I have no basis to determine your intelligence.

Am I really that much of a jack ass?

If the person you are is the person you appear to be, yes.

Am I really that stupid?

I have no basis to determine your intelligence.

Am I really that evil?

Evil perhaps is too strong a word in this instance. You are certainly intollerant however.

Am I really that terrible?

Terrible perhaps is too strong a word in this instance. You are certainly intollerant however.

Do I, as I feel I deserve, deserve to be shot, and thrown into a ditch?

Every human has the right to life, no human should be murdered. Now stop begging for sympathy.

I want you all to answer me honestly now...

Am I really such a bad person as you describe?

Am I really that despicable?

Am I really that much of an asshole?

Am I really that idiotic?

Am I really that much of a jack ass?

Am I really that stupid?

Am I really that evil?

Am I really that terrible?

Do I, as I feel I deserve, deserve to be shot, and thrown into a ditch?

Answer me honestly. Don't spare my feelings, not that you would anyways, and not that you should.
From the impressions you've given on this thread...

yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, no, no, no

If the person you are is the person you appear to be, yes.



If the person you are is the person you appear to be, yes.



If the person you are is the person you appear to be, yes.



I have no basis to determine your intelligence.



If the person you are is the person you appear to be, yes.



I have no basis to determine your intelligence.



Evil perhaps is too strong a word in this instance. You are certainly intollerant however.



Terrible is perhaps too strong a word in this instance. You are certainly intollerant however.



Every human has the right to life, no human should be murdered. Now stop begging for sympathy.

You were half honest. Both of us know I'm evil. Both of us know I'm terrible. Both of us know I'm stupid. Both of us know I'm idiotic. Both of us know that because of these qualities, this planet is better off without me. I should be shot. Just because I get pleasures from living doesn't mean I should be allowed to cause pain to others.

From the impressions you've given on this thread...

yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, no, no, no

Once again, half honest. I am evil. I am terrible. This world would've been better off if I never existed.

You were half honest. Both of us know I'm evil. Both of us know I'm terrible. Both of us know I'm stupid. Both of us know I'm idiotic. Both of us know that because of these qualities, this planet is better off without me. I should be shot. Just because I get pleasures from living doesn't mean I should be allowed to cause pain to others.

Once again, stop begging for sympathy. After 30 pages of defending your viewpoint you're suddenly going to swap into self loathing? I don't buy it. I'm not going to play your game of telling you "no, you have something to give to society, your presence if valuable". I'm not going to play your game, and I'm not going to give you the satisfaction.

The "I'm a bad person, I'm just going to crawl in a hole and die" routine isn't cute, it isn't clever, and it wins you no points.

Once again, half honest. I am evil. I am terrible. This world would've been better off if I never existed.
Yeah, fine whatever. Enter the pity party, right?

I want you all to answer me honestly now...
Do I have to be honest? That goes against my weasel-y nature!

Fine... I'll *TRY*...

Am I really such a bad person as you describe?
I can't say because I never said that...

Am I really that despicable?
Nah.

Am I really that much of an asshole?
You're as much an asshole as the next buttbag. If you think you're not an asshole, think again. Like every other douchebag on this planet, including me, you're a fucking asshole and there's no way around it.

Am I really that idiotic?
Hm... How are your grades?

Am I really that much of a jack ass?
See my answer for "Am I really that much of an asshole?".

Am I really that stupid?
Not as stupid as me when I'm high...

Am I really that evil?
You're not even close to being evil, and I refuse to be dethroned by the likes of you!

Am I really that terrible?
Hmm... well... depends on what we're talking about.

Do I, as I feel I deserve, deserve to be shot, and thrown into a ditch?
Can we make that a smouldering crater? :D

I like ditches. You can make a good story with a ditch!

I want you all to answer me honestly now...

Am I really such a bad person as you describe?

Am I really that despicable?

Am I really that much of an asshole?

Am I really that idiotic?

Am I really that much of a jack ass?

Am I really that stupid?

Am I really that evil?

Am I really that terrible?

Do I, as I feel I deserve, deserve to be shot, and thrown into a ditch?

Answer me honestly. Don't spare my feelings, not that you would anyways, and not that you should.

Well, I just came here but from what I've read here I my responses to your questions, in order.

I've not be describing you, but I don't think you're as bad as other people describe

not really, I've dealt with worse

not really

impossible to tell just from what I've read here

Now you're just repeating questions

still repeating

Psh, anyone who claims that someone simply stating thier honest feelings is evil is exaggerating. If you beat cheerleaders to death with a blunt axe, then you'd be evil.

basically just a repeat of the evil question

trenches are much handier than ditches for shooting people and throwing them in. Seriously though, no.

If either of you give me any pity, then I will hate both of you. I want you both to agree with me that I deserve to die because of who I am. Of who causes only pain to others.

Once again, half honest. I am evil. I am terrible. This world would've been better off if I never existed.

Better if you didn't exist? You haven't really done anything to deserve that so no. Stopping poking for sympathy, because when it comes to that I really can't resist.

If either of you give me any pity, then I will hate both of you. I want you both to agree with me that I deserve to die because of who I am. Of who causes only pain to others.
Uh... no... I don't think you deserve to die. I just think you're stupid and bigotted and can't argue your way out of a wet paper bag.

If either of you give me any pity, then I will hate both of you. I want you both to agree with me that I deserve to die because of who I am. Of who causes only pain to others.

Up until this point, you were slightly saner than me. Now, I have an increasing urge to smack you with a wet trout and dance around madly.

Better if you didn't exist? You haven't really done anything to deserve that so no. Stopping poking for sympathy, because when it comes to that I really can't resist.

Yes I have. Read the god damned thread. Read the things I say. And if any one gives my sympathy, I'll hate them.

Uh... no... I don't think you deserve to die. I just think you're stupid and bigotted and can't argue your way out of a wet paper bag.

And don't stupid, bigotted people along with all the other "qualities" that define me in your opinion deserve to die?

And don't stupid, bigotted people along with all the other "qualities" that define me in your opinion deserve to die?
No, I don't. People can learn and change. You're in highschool, I pretty much expect you to be a moron who doesn't know anything about the world.

Well I don't know what's going on because I'm too lazy and my computer's too slow to read all of the pages between this and the first one. But the most of the cheerleaders I know personally only fit maybe one or two of those things. So no I don't think that all cheerleaders are like that, but I have to say, some do really fit those descriptions. Most of the people that say that kind of stuff don't know any of the cheerleaders personally. That or they just go to a school with only those cheerleaders. And before you ask, no I'm not a jock or have ever been on a football team.

Yes I have. Read the god damned thread. Read the things I say. And if any one gives my sympathy, I'll hate them.
What about empathy?

Yes I have. Read the god damned thread. Read the things I say. And if any one gives my sympathy, I'll hate them.

Once again, I don't buy it. You've gone 30 pages defending your viewpoint assured of the fact that you were RIGHT, and now you are expecting us to believe that you recognize the own flaws in your arguments and feel bad about it?

No human deserves to die. And I say that without the slightest sympathy for you, and without the slightest hesitation to say you're absolutly full of shit.

And I really don't care whether you hate me or not.

Nal, stop whining and deciding that you are awful. Its silly. Live, let live, and find joy in that.

(Like, peace dude...)

And don't stupid, bigotted people along with all the other "qualities" that define me in your opinion deserve to die?

no. No human being deserves to die. On the "ladder of evil" you're pretty low down the line. You're bigoted, sexist, intolerant and hypocritical, but there's a lot more evil in the world than that. And even they don't deserve to die.

Still doesn't mean I have one whit of sympathy for you though.

If either of you give me any pity, then I will hate both of you. I want you both to agree with me that I deserve to die because of who I am. Of who causes only pain to others.

Honestly, I'd think you only deserved to die if you did something like rape or murder or another one of those sorta crimes. Really now, who have you actually caused pain to? 'Oh, I've insulted the cheerleaders and offended some folks online, I'd best drop dead right here.'

but since you want me to agree with you:

Die you horrible person, I hope to be the one who fires the gun that leaves you in the ditch.

:eek: i think pro cheerleaders are hot:eek:

No human deserves to die.

Even those who only end up hurting others?

No, no, no!

No leaving bodies in my ditch or my smouldering crater!

There is a nice pond across the road, go use that.

Nal, stop whining and deciding that you are awful. Its silly. Live, let live, and find joy in that.

(Like, peace dude...)

But I am awful. Read the god damned thread.

Even those who only end up hurting others?
Dude? Seriously? Get some weed, smoke it and come back once you've done those two things. This feeling of self-worthlessness will pass.

Honestly, I'd think you only deserved to die if you did something like rape or murder or another one of those sorta crimes. Really now, who have you actually caused pain to? 'Oh, I've insulted the cheerleaders and offended some folks online, I'd best drop dead right here.'

It's not just that. There's a shit load of other stuff. This is just the catalyst.

Dude? Seriously? Get some weed, smoke it and come back once you've done those two things. This feeling of self-worthlessness will pass.

So the fact that it's been around for give or take six months means it will still pass?

So the fact that it's been around for give or take six months means it will still pass?

then get therapy. If what you say is true you likely have a psychological condition. See a psychiatrist, get some medication. Be proactive.

No, I don't. People can learn and change. You're in highschool, I pretty much expect you to be a moron who doesn't know anything about the world.

Hey I'm in Highschool and even though I'm also a moron who doesn't know anything about the world, But I am not....I guess that pretty much leaves nothing else to be insulted about. Looks like me and Nal are pretty much in the same boat when it comes to those two things. :D

Umm... Yes it is. People should not be attracted to you because of your body, or your wealth, or your social standing. They should be attracted to you because of your personality.The way I dress, the work I do to make money, the people I associate with (ergo, my social standing) is all either directly or indirectly part of my personality. Also, it is impossible to deny that physical attraction is at play. I don't care if you are asexual. Physical attraction is a component for the 99% of us who aren't. And, probably, at some level, even those who call themselves asexual.




You are demeaning all women by insinuating that we can only want to look and feel pretty to get a man. Then you went on to generalize about cheerleaders again.Funny, he calls girls dressing to show off their bodies slutty, but didn't go so far as to lable me the same for doing the exact same actions with the exact same goal.

So just deciding after looking at a guy you've never seen before "Hey, I want to make out with him!", then going over and actually doing it isn't slutty or cheap?Um, if you walk up to a random person you've never talked to before, and try to kiss them, you will get a shot to the junk. There is conversation, getting interested in the person as well as getting them interested in you. You have to prove yourself


So you think that people who have sex for money are kick ass? That they're the greatest thing ever invented? That they aren't cheap and slutty? That they aren't immoral?Immorality and morality are bullshit and subjective. The hookers I've talked to (yes, talked to, not purchased sex from) have all been pretty awesome. They have immensly interesting life stories to tell.

Why do cheerleaders look down on people?

Now why do I look down on people?

What do cheerleaders do on people they look down on?

What do I do to people I look down on?

Understand?So you think it is wrong for them to do, but okay for you. Martyr complex much?

Hey, guess what. I DO NOT ATTACK PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY TALK ABOUT THEIR SEXUALITY. I complain about them, certainly, and I look in disgust and turn my head when they talk about it, but I don't attack them openly.Oh, it is so much better to sneer behind someonees back. Yes. You are truly a saint.

IT IS THE SAME FUCKING THING AS ATTACKING THEM OUTRIGHT, IF NOT WORSE. At least you could be honest with the person rather than pretending it is okay and making gestures and comments behind their back.

I want you all to answer me honestly now...

Am I really such a bad person as you describe?

Am I really that despicable?

Am I really that much of an asshole?

Am I really that idiotic?

Am I really that much of a jack ass?

Am I really that stupid?

Am I really that evil?

Am I really that terrible?If I said it, I stand by it. I don't, mind you, stand by anyone elses posts. Only my own.

Do I, as I feel I deserve, deserve to be shot, and thrown into a ditch?Nope. No one deserves to be shot or humiliated by their disposal after the fact.




And I'm glad to see we've moved into the depressive part of the thread.

But I am awful. Read the god damned thread.

I did.

You're silly, perhaps. Frustrated, almost certainly. Inexperienced, yes. But awful? Have you killed someone without remorse? Do you beat up innocent people regularly?

Being wrong, or being angry is no crime, its also human. We make mistakes, and learn from them. Only people who make mistakes and decide to make them again on purpose, or people who try to harm people are awful.

Self hate and pity parties are self-serving, essentially. Don't waste your time on them. You only get so much time. If you are, in fact, doing wrong, then you can use that time to do right.

It's not just that. There's a shit load of other stuff. This is just the catalyst.

You ever actually hurt anyone? Hurting feelings doesn't count, unless you, like, drove them to suicide or something. Otherwise, I'm afraid I don't agree with you wanting to be shot.

No, no, no!

No leaving bodies in my ditch or my smouldering crater!

There is a nice pond across the road, go use that.

I can't use water; I'll melt.

And I'm glad to see we've moved into the depressive part of the thread.

seriously...took some time didn't it?

then get therapy. If what you say is true you likely have a psychological condition. See a psychiatrist, get some medication. Be proactive.

It's a psychological condition that I'm a bigot? Sexist? Anti-Semitist? Doesn't matter how I try to cover it up, wanting the destruction of Israel is anti-semitic. Hypocrit? Hell, I'm probably the most capitalistic person on here. I don't care about anybody else. Hell, I don't even care about my home country, Finland. All I care about is myself. If I was given the chance to have complete power to have everybody in the world prosper, I'd take complete power. I'm an asshole. It's not psychological. It's just who I am. And who I am is what deserves to be wiped off the face of the Earth.

So the fact that it's been around for give or take six months means it will still pass?
Did you try the weed bit?

I can't use water; I'll melt.
Then... leave the body hanging from a tree or something, just no leaving them in my ditch or smouldering crater! :p

It's a psychological condition that I'm a bigot? Sexist? Anti-Semitist? Doesn't matter how I try to cover it up, wanting the destruction of Israel is anti-semitic. Hypocrit? Hell, I'm probably the most capitalistic person on here. I don't care about anybody else. Hell, I don't even care about my home country, Finland. All I care about is myself. If I was given the chance to have complete power to have everybody in the world prosper, I'd take complete power. I'm an asshole. It's not psychological. It's just who I am. And who I am is what deserves to be wiped off the face of the Earth.

Oh bullshit.

You're contriving reasons to hate yourself. You're either searching for attention or you've got some form of chronic depression. Go see a doctor.

I did.

You're silly, perhaps. Frustrated, almost certainly. Inexperienced, yes. But awful? Have you killed someone without remorse? Do you beat up innocent people regularly?

Being wrong, or being angry is no crime, its also human. We make mistakes, and learn from them. Only people who make mistakes and decide to make them again on purpose, or people who try to harm people are awful.

Self hate and pity parties are self-serving, essentially. Don't waste your time on them. You only get so much time. If you are, in fact, doing wrong, then you can use that time to do right.

Everybody else hates me. So why shouldn't I hate myself. They're completely logical in why they hate me. It's perfectly reasonable as to why they hate me. Yet I kept saying "No, no, no. I'm none of that." But I am all of that. I should hate myself as well. And I do hurt people for my own gain. Doesn't matter how much I try to cover it up, even from myself. I do it.

You ever actually hurt anyone? Hurting feelings doesn't count, unless you, like, drove them to suicide or something. Otherwise, I'm afraid I don't agree with you wanting to be shot.

Well, I may or may not have caused their parents to be divorced, which will probably lead them to suicide later on.

Oh bullshit.

You're contriving reasons to hate yourself. You're either searching for attention or you've got some form of chronic depression. Go see a doctor.

They're real. Look at the thread, and all of my other posts. I'm not making them up. They exist. They are real reasons for me to hate myself and for why I deserve to die.

Everybody else hates me. So why shouldn't I hate myself. They're completely logical in why they hate me. It's perfectly reasonable as to why they hate me. Yet I kept saying "No, no, no. I'm none of that." But I am all of that. I should hate myself as well. And I do hurt people for my own gain. Doesn't matter how much I try to cover it up, even from myself. I do it.
I will defend your right to be a jaded, anti-social asshole, but, seriously? This self-pity is just pathetic. If you can be so upfront and brash with how you feel about one group, but keel under pressure from a bunch of faceless twats online, you've got issues.

Why the hell would you want to die? I sided with you up until that point, now, I'm going to just go neutral and act like a jackass for the remainder of this thread, as I'm going to go get high.

It's a psychological condition that I'm a bigot? Sexist? Anti-Semitist? Doesn't matter how I try to cover it up, wanting the destruction of Israel is anti-semitic. Hypocrit? Hell, I'm probably the most capitalistic person on here. I don't care about anybody else. Hell, I don't even care about my home country, Finland. All I care about is myself. If I was given the chance to have complete power to have everybody in the world prosper, I'd take complete power. I'm an asshole. It's not psychological. It's just who I am. And who I am is what deserves to be wiped off the face of the Earth.

Meh, this place would be a lot more boring without some people like you.

Besides, I'll freely admit that I'm a little bit bigoted and sexist too. Don't say anything about it and I certianly don't act on it, but it's just something sub-consious I do. It's just who I am, and I certianly don't deserve to die for it either.

For the record, I'd totally grab complete power too. Even though, first thing I'd do with complete power is make everyone in the world prosper. Of course, that's assuming that I can magically do that with complete power.

Then... leave the body hanging from a tree or something, just no leaving them in my ditch or smouldering crater! :p
but he wanted a ditch . . .

I will defend your right to be a jaded, anti-social asshole, but, seriously? This self-pity is just pathetic. If you can be so upfront and brash with how you feel about one group, but keel under pressure from a bunch of faceless twats online, you've got issues.

It's not self-pity. It's self-hate. If it is self-pity it's just more of a reason for me to hate myself. Hell, it probably is, and I'm just trying to cover it up from myself again, as I always do. And they're not twats if they're right.

It's a psychological condition that I'm a bigot? Sexist? Anti-Semitist? Doesn't matter how I try to cover it up, wanting the destruction of Israel is anti-semitic. Hypocrit? Hell, I'm probably the most capitalistic person on here. I don't care about anybody else. Hell, I don't even care about my home country, Finland. All I care about is myself. If I was given the chance to have complete power to have everybody in the world prosper, I'd take complete power. I'm an asshole. It's not psychological. It's just who I am. And who I am is what deserves to be wiped off the face of the Earth.

delusions of grandeur much?

Seriously, stop the self pity and see a doctor. Do something actually respectable and take charge of your life.

delusions of grandeur much?

Seriously, stop the self pity and see a doctor. Do something actually respectable.

Won't make up for anything else I've done...

They're real. Look at the thread, and all of my other posts. I'm not making them up. They exist. They are real reasons for me to hate myself and for why I deserve to die.

You're blowing them out of proportion.

Go. See. A Doctor. This is not healthy behaviour.

Why the hell would you want to die? I sided with you up until that point, now, I'm going to just go neutral and act like a jackass for the remainder of this thread, as I'm going to go get high.

It's not that I want to die. It's that I deserve to die. Of course I don't want to die. I have this world to fuck over. There's nothing funner than that. But it's that I deserve to die. I'm a god damned terrible person. And I deserve to die. I don't want to hurt people, but that's all I can do.

You're blowing them out of proportion.

Go. See. A Doctor. This is not healthy behaviour.

But they exist. And they will always exist. Therefore I deserve to be killed, so that no one will have to suffer through me any more.

It's not self-pity. It's self-hate. If it is self-pity it's just more of a reason for me to hate myself. Hell, it probably is, and I'm just trying to cover it up from myself again, as I always do. And they're not twats if they're right.

Sure they are!

. . . no offense, guys.

In other news, I had to look up the definition for twat online. Yay for increasing my vocab.

It's not that I want to die. It's that I deserve to die. Of course I don't want to die. I have this world to fuck over. There's nothing funner than that. But it's that I deserve to die. I'm a god damned terrible person. And I deserve to die. I don't want to hurt people, but that's all I can do.

Meh, I suppose what constitutes deserving to die depends on your personal morals. I'm not going to bother trying to change those. But for the record, if you deserve to die so do tons of other people.

I'm taking my smouldering crater and "ditch" and going to a better thread. This is depressing me, and I'm too high to care.

Sure they are!

. . . no offense, guys.

In other news, I had to look up the definition for twat online. Yay for increasing my vocab.



Meh, I suppose what constitutes deserving to die depends on your personal morals. I'm not going to bother trying to change those. But for the record, if you deserve to die so do tons of other people.

Yeah, but I want to know if the other people on NSG agree that I deserve to die. If they agree, then I can only presume that I do deserve to die and then I should try to do one good thing...

Everybody else hates me. So why shouldn't I hate myself. They're completely logical in why they hate me. It's perfectly reasonable as to why they hate me. Yet I kept saying "No, no, no. I'm none of that." But I am all of that. I should hate myself as well. And I do hurt people for my own gain. Doesn't matter how much I try to cover it up, even from myself. I do it.

you need to try to change. If you keep messing up then still keep trying.

you need to try to change. If you keep messing up then still keep trying.

It's futile. Nothing will ever change. I will continue to harm, with no good coming out of anything I do.

Good thing I brought my flame retardant suit!

Ok, you may be a lurker. I don't know. But guess what? This isn't my first incarnation. I've been on here since... About, I'd say, sometime around mid 2005. That means I probably have more experience than you on NSG. So don't go telling me what's up and down on NSG. I see people come on here all the time complaining about things like this. So why is it that I alone am not allowed to complain?

Oh, by the way, I'm asexual. I don't "fuck" or "bang".

Sorry, I couldn't read any of the other parts of your post. :)

Wow, you are such a whiner. Most of my post was a joke and I'm sorry for your multiple incarnations on this server as you probably got banned for being a crybaby. Seriouly, grow the F up as you're almost an adult now. Get a set and learn that your own self worth is not determined by what other people think of you. That would include me as well because judging by your posts you just complain that people think they are superior to you. Do you think they are superior to you? It would appear so as you allow them to control your life and have power over you they don't deserve. But hell, don't take my word for it just continue to be an emo punk and get us all teary eyed with your "woe is me" crap. We've all been to high school and dealt with our fair share of shit, now it's your turn junior. So either man up and start looking within yourself for your self worth, or go talk to a medical professional who is capable of handling these issues. I don't think NSG is your personal therapy session and I'm pretty pissed at myself for having responded to this lame thread for so long. Learn to love and respect yourself and the world will follow. Or you can continue to allow others to set who you are...The choice is yours. And finally, God damn you're an emo troll :fluffle: Can you tell that's a joke sally senstive pants?

Yeah, but I want to know if the other people on NSG agree that I deserve to die. If they agree, then I can only presume that I do deserve to die and then I should try to do one good thing...

I'm afraid we seem to disagree.

Yeah, but I want to know if the other people on NSG agree that I deserve to die. If they agree, then I can only presume that I do deserve to die and then I should try to do one good thing...

knock it off, you're a socially inept and confused teenager. You don't desreve to die, although I believe I should be allowed to swirly you a few hundred times. Dude, if you're this far gone you need to seek professional help, not bitch on NSG. No one here wants you to die, I want you to shut up and stop bothering the rest of us with your rmbling, but not die. Everyone makes mistakes and you need to allow yourself to be the same. Do you stop and never forgive ohters when they make mistakes? Do they deserve to die when they make mistakes? Then why are you any different?

knock it off, you're a socially inept and confused teenager. You don't desreve to die, although I believe I should be allowed to swirly you a few hundred times. Dude, if you're this far gone you need to seek professional help, not bitch on NSG. No one here wants you to die, I want you to shut up and stop bothering the rest of us with your rmbling, but not die. Everyone makes mistakes and you need to allow yourself to be the same. Do you stop and never forgive ohters when they make mistakes? Do they deserve to die when they make mistakes? Then why are you any different?

If you don't want to read the truth about me, go away.

No, they don't. Why? Because they don't do it intentionally they cover it up even to themselves then do it over and over again.

Hey I'm in Highschool and even though I'm also a moron who doesn't know anything about the world, But I am not....I guess that pretty much leaves nothing else to be insulted about. Looks like me and Nal are pretty much in the same boat when it comes to those two things. :D
Well, you have surpassed my expectations.

Everybody else hates me. So why shouldn't I hate myself. They're completely logical in why they hate me. It's perfectly reasonable as to why they hate me. Yet I kept saying "No, no, no. I'm none of that." But I am all of that. I should hate myself as well. And I do hurt people for my own gain. Doesn't matter how much I try to cover it up, even from myself. I do it.
Nobody hates you. It's pretty unlikely that anyone gets so involved in a message board that they actively hate people for their comments on them.

It's futile. Nothing will ever change. I will continue to harm, with no good coming out of anything I do.

Pessimism isn't a very good trait either, you know.

Well, I'm off to bed.

My war comfortable bed, and a heater, and a full stoumach.

Little kids in Africa have to sleep on the floor... Without any kind of temperature control... And hungry...

Hell, people in my own city have to do that too... So why don't I do anything about it...

Inspired by that other thread.

And I mean the stereotypical ones. Who, sadly, are in fact the majority of cheerleaders.

By "stereotypical ones" I mean:


They think they're better than everyone else.


They only date football players because football players are the only people equal to them.


They never do anything kind because they're better than everyone else.


They always expect other people to do things for them because they're better than everyone else.


They never thank people who do things for them because they're better than everyone else.


They shamelessly wear incredibly short skirts (I KNOW that back in the ol' day cheerleader skirts were no where NEAR the length they are now) in an attempt to get the football players to like them, even if it is liking them only for their bodies.


They are almost always happy, no matter what is going on.


They pay no attention to anything outside of their own little social life, no matter how important it may be.


When, if ever, they are sad, they expect every single last person on campus to take notice and be sorry for her, no matter why she is sad.


If she breaks up with her football player boyfriend, she automatically goes to the rebound guy, who will most probably be another football player, without thinking a bit about her ex-boyfriend.


They expect every guy on campus to want them, and if a guy doesn't seem to want them, they have their jock boyfriends harrass them.


They expect every girl on campus to want to be like them, and if a girl doesn't seem to want to be like them, they themselves will harass them.


They pay no attention to the future of their lives, concerned only with improving their current situation.


They pay no attention to their education, even if it may help them get a job after they become too old to be a cheerleader.


They even expect teachers and staff to bow down to them, because they're even better than the teachers.


They never aplogize if they do something like actually accidentally spill milk on someone, because they're still better than everyone.


And a hell of a lot more.


my daughter was a cheerleader..both kinds...the raa raa type and the acrobatic type.
she was far from spoiled,and was and is a sweet girl.
she is getting straight a's in her senior year of college and is off to law school next year.
plus she works.

so basically,she is sweet,has tons of friends,works all week,is aceing college,off to law school,her only serious boyfriend was a computer nerd..who she just broke up with and called me crying about 2 nights ago.

so you may need to rethink your negative attitude.

maybe your projecting something you hate about yourself onto these girls?

or maybe your just young and unschooled in life?

i had,as most have,been in high school and were rejected by the prettier girls...that's life!
but they all were not empty headed selfish bitches.
besides,if you were offered the choice of two hot girls of equal intelligence,equally great personalities...who would you choose...the hotter of the 2..just as they would and i would...and most would.
it's human nature..get over it.

If you don't want to read the truth about me, go away.

No, they don't. Why? Because they don't do it intentionally they cover it up even to themselves then do it over and over again.

I know the truth about you, you whine a lot? Like I said before, seek professional help as no one here it going to give you your path to redemption. From what I've read of your writing I can see you are emtionally disturbed. Don't worry, it's not like I studied the subject or anything. :D Oh wait, maybe I did and that's why I have all those degrees hanging on my walls. Anyhow, you need counseling that cannot be done on NSG and you're just wasting all of our time. I'd be happy to refer you to a counselor if I know anyone where you;) live. But here you're just ranting, raving, and whining like a fool. This may be a release for your temporarily, but those feelings of self loathing will return shortly after putting you right back in the same spot you were when you started. I prefer a more confrontational sort of counseling, as you can see. One that FORCES the subject to associate with reality and brings about true and banal responses. From your repsonses I tell you to seek professional help. This is not because I hate you or want you to die, but I do want you to stop being so damn emo...on here. Brng your problems to someone who can truly help.

But they exist. And they will always exist. Therefore I deserve to be killed, so that no one will have to suffer through me any more.

Bullcrap. That's totally egomaniacal. You really aren't so important that people suffer seriously from your actions. Sorry.

You see them, but they aren't really big issues. They don't really harm anyone, as they are, and your heart's in the right place. Everyone fucks up. You can either try to improve yourself, or you can lose. Do you want to lose?

But seriously, go see a doctor, if you're serious about what you're saying, you need to see a psychologist. If you aren't... Frankly, you're a total shit. But I'm giving you the benefit of a doubt. So take my advice seriously, and go see a doctor if you really think those things.

Bullcrap. That's totally egomaniacal. You really aren't so important that people suffer seriously from your actions. Sorry.

You see them, but they aren't really big issues. They don't really harm anyone, as they are, and your heart's in the right place. Everyone fucks up. You can either try to improve yourself, or you can lose. Do you want to lose?

But seriously, go see a doctor, if you're serious about what you're saying, you need to see a psychologist. If you aren't... Frankly, you're a total shit. But I'm giving you the benefit of a doubt. So take my advice seriously, and go see a doctor if you really think those things.

So what I do won't affect my family? My friends? And if I am that egomaniacal, that's just one more thing wrong with me...

But they do harm people. It's subtle, but they do harm people. And I've tried to improve myself. I have.

Why do I need to see a psychologist about something that's in my personality? I'm pretty sure psychologists can't fix a fucked up personality.

This thread needs more pics of cheerleaders.

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/EKENIPAGPOAN/janipher-06.jpg

Yes. Yes it does.

I know the truth about you, you whine a lot? Like I said before, seek professional help as no one here it going to give you your path to redemption. From what I've read of your writing I can see you are emtionally disturbed. Don't worry, it's not like I studied the subject or anything. :D Oh wait, maybe I did and that's why I have all those degrees hanging on my walls. Anyhow, you need counseling that cannot be done on NSG and you're just wasting all of our time. I'd be happy to refer you to a counselor if I know anyone where you;) live. But here you're just ranting, raving, and whining like a fool. This may be a release for your temporarily, but those feelings of self loathing will return shortly after putting you right back in the same spot you were when you started. I prefer a more confrontational sort of counseling, as you can see. One that FORCES the subject to associate with reality and brings about true and banal responses. From your repsonses I tell you to seek professional help. This is not because I hate you or want you to die, but I do want you to stop being so damn emo...on here. Brng your problems to someone who can truly help.

Listen while I have this momentary lapse of self-worthlessness.

If I was emo I would be crying about how the world is out to get me, about how my life sucks so much, about how everybody else just needs to leave me alone so that my life would be better.

I'm crying about how I'm out to get the world, about how I cause others lives to suck, about how I need to just let everybody else go on with their lives so that their lives can be better.

Emos are selfish with their crying. They want to kill themselves to escape pain.

I'm selfless with my crying. I love this life. I'd love to stay here. But I know as long as I stay here I will cause pain to others, make others lives hell.

you win, you bore me to tears and now I'll stop reading this pathetic cry for help of a thread. Get counseling before you ruin everyone's life. Finally, if you think you're that important to everyone else's life that you can cause them to ruin them you are sadly mistaken. Most people overestimate their value to others. As if you were to die, I might stop and think for a minute about what a tragedy it might be, but I'd still be having dinner with my wife later and enjoying the fruits of my labor. The bottom line is that you really don't matter enough to people for them to express this "hate."

I'm selfless with my crying. I love this life. I'd love to stay here. But I know as long as I stay here I will cause pain to others, make others lives hell.
It still doesn't justify suicide. Suicide is for assholes who can't think clearly and realise that no matter how much life is a kick in the ass, you've got to suck it up.

So? As long as I remain on this fucking planet, I will make people miserable. And you know what? I look forward to that. It helps to negate those suicidal thoughts, especially if you can think this: 'the world doesn't give a shit about me, so why should I give a shit about the world?' All while knowing that there are a couple of people who are your friends.

Nobody hates you. It's pretty unlikely that anyone gets so involved in a message board that they actively hate people for their comments on them.

I think I would be pretty scared of the sort of people that do too...

And I would not take it personally if someone so unbalanced disliked me.

Listen while I have this momentary lapse of self-worthlessness.

If I was emo I would be crying about how the world is out to get me, about how my life sucks so much, about how everybody else just needs to leave me alone so that my life would be better.

I'm crying about how I'm out to get the world, about how I cause others lives to suck, about how I need to just let everybody else go on with their lives so that their lives can be better.

Emos are selfish with their crying. They want to kill themselves to escape pain.

I'm selfless with my crying. I love this life. I'd love to stay here. But I know as long as I stay here I will cause pain to others, make others lives hell.

So.."I'm selfless and instead of fixing things up, I want to kill myself because I cause pain to others ." That sounds like cowardly emo to me.

And yes, this thread needs more cheerleaders.