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Inspired by that other thread.

And I mean the stereotypical ones. Who, sadly, are in fact the majority of cheerleaders.

By "stereotypical ones" I mean:


They think they're better than everyone else.


They only date football players because football players are the only people equal to them.


They never do anything kind because they're better than everyone else.


They always expect other people to do things for them because they're better than everyone else.


They never thank people who do things for them because they're better than everyone else.


They shamelessly wear incredibly short skirts (I KNOW that back in the ol' day cheerleader skirts were no where NEAR the length they are now) in an attempt to get the football players to like them, even if it is liking them only for their bodies.


They are almost always happy, no matter what is going on.


They pay no attention to anything outside of their own little social life, no matter how important it may be.


When, if ever, they are sad, they expect every single last person on campus to take notice and be sorry for her, no matter why she is sad.


If she breaks up with her football player boyfriend, she automatically goes to the rebound guy, who will most probably be another football player, without thinking a bit about her ex-boyfriend.


They expect every guy on campus to want them, and if a guy doesn't seem to want them, they have their jock boyfriends harrass them.


They expect every girl on campus to want to be like them, and if a girl doesn't seem to want to be like them, they themselves will harass them.


They pay no attention to the future of their lives, concerned only with improving their current situation.


They pay no attention to their education, even if it may help them get a job after they become too old to be a cheerleader.


They even expect teachers and staff to bow down to them, because they're even better than the teachers.


They never aplogize if they do something like actually accidentally spill milk on someone, because they're still better than everyone.


And a hell of a lot more.

Never saw any outside TV.

I've never interacted with any(to my knowledge).

I don't much care for the one who's running the country right now...

It's a good thing you don't come across as being bitter because you are not being swamped by the cheerleaders you seem to have this resentment for.

My highschool didn't have cheerleaders. I think my university does but I've never come into contact with them and they'd have to have at least a decent head on their shoulders to get here in the first place.

But yeah, what's with your series of negative rants about women?

Having difficulties getting laid, eh?

But yeah, what's with your series of negative rants about women?

It's not about women. It's about women supremacy. There should be equality on this planet. I don't want women dominating men, just as much as I don't want men dominating women.

Also: For those of you whose schools don't have cheerleaders, you're lucky. Mine is god damned full of them. You're lucky you've never interacted with them, let alone seen them.

Cheerleaders, they're like strippers, only cheaper.

Cheaper as in they don't get paid to flash their naughty bits.

Having difficulties getting laid, eh?
OWNED! :D

Having difficulties getting laid, eh?

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Having difficulties getting laid, eh?

I'm asexual, remeber?

Even if I wasn't, if one of them came up to me and offered sex, I'd punch her in the face.

Cheerleaders, they're like strippers, only cheaper.

Cheaper as in they don't get paid to flash their naughty bits.

Yeah, they just do it without pay.

I'm asexual, remeber?

Even if I wasn't, if one of them came up to me and offered sex, I'd punch her in the face.

But..................why?:confused:

I'm asexual, remeber?

Even if I wasn't, if one of them came up to me and offered sex, I'd punch her in the face.

No I don't remember. I don't pay attention to what you say. But your raving lunatic rant about those slutty cheerleaders leads me to only one conclusion about your motivations.

Cheerleaders: What do you think of them? they turn me on.
Yahoo >> Picture search >> cheerleaders.

enuff said.

they turn me on.
Yahoo >> Picture search >> cheerleaders.

enuff said.

I would, but I'm in college :(

But..................why?:confused:

Because, if I was sexually active, there's no way I'd do something that cheap.

I would, but I'm in college :(http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=cheerleaders&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&fr2=tab-web

there.

Because, if I was sexually active, there's no way I'd do something that cheap.
Dude, lose your fucking morals and get laid already.

Because, if I was sexually active, there's no way I'd do something that cheap.

Not paying means it's free, not cheap. Which is the best kind of sex. Actually free is the best kind of most things.

Dude, lose your fucking morals and get laid already.

It's not morality. It's that I really don't feel any sex drive what so ever. If you want to talk about my asexuality, take it to another thread. In the mean time, complain about cheerleaders or about how I have no right to complain about them.

they turn me on.
Yahoo >> Picture search >> cheerleaders.

enuff said.

google give you same you dont get on yahoo

It's not about women. It's about women supremacy. There should be equality on this planet.
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Women have supremacy?! On this planet?! What the fuck are you talking about?! Even in the western world where we are "equals" we are generally under-represented in policitcs, kept out of high paying jobs through various prejudices against women in leadership roles and earn 70% of what a man does. Now let's talk about the rest of the world... let's see do you want to start with the places that force women to cover themselves head to toe lest they be mutilated? The places where if a woman is raped, she's not allowed to testify against her rapists because she's not a man, but she can be punished for having admitted to sex outside of marriage? The places where women are subjected to genital mutilation to assuage the fears of men that they're not going to run off with another man?

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=cheerleaders&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&fr2=tab-web

there.

Yay!

Not paying means it's free, not cheap. Which is the best kind of sex. Actually free is the best kind of most things.

So it's not cheap if you don't even know the person that much, and it's not cheap if from what you know of the person you absolutely hate them?

oh. sorry.

I'm asexual, remeber?

Even if I wasn't, if one of them came up to me and offered sex, I'd punch her in the face.
I don't think you are asexual, I think that you do have major issues with women though.

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Women have supremacy?! On this planet?! What the fuck are you talking about?! Even in the western world where we are "equals" we are generally under-represented in policitcs, kept out of high paying jobs through various prejudices against women in leadership roles and earn 70% of what a man does. Now let's talk about the rest of the world... let's see do you want to start with the places that force women to cover themselves head to toe lest they be mutilated? The places where if a woman is raped, she's not allowed to testify against her rapists because she's not a man, but she can be punished for having admitted to sex outside of marriage? The places where women are subjected to genital mutilation to assuage the fears of men that they're not going to run off with another man?

Well, unfortunately, it seems that where I come from women have a tendency to have more rights then men because of "affirmative action". They get better jobs, because they are needed to fill the "quota". They are allowed to step ahead of men in line for voting, because they are needed to fill the "quota". It's annoying.

It's not morality. It's that I really don't feel any sex drive what so ever. If you want to talk about my asexuality, take it to another thread. In the mean time, complain about cheerleaders or about how I have no right to complain about them.

Your irrational hatred of cheerleaders suggests acceptance issues.

So it's not cheap if you don't even know the person that much, and it's not cheap if from what you know of the person you absolutely hate them?
I think he meant that one shouldn't have to pay for sex.

I don't think you are asexual, I think that you do have major issues with women though.

In that case I'd be gay then. But I'm not.

Well, unfortunately, it seems that where I come from women have a tendency to have more rights then men because of "affirmative action". They get better jobs, because they are needed to fill the "quota". They are allowed to step ahead of men in line for voting, because they are needed to fill the "quota". It's annoying.
I call some major fucking bullshit.

I mean seriously, if you're going to make up some female supremacy bit, at least point out places where women actually have an advantage instead of making shit up (women never get bumped to the head of the line for voting, or get better jobs to fill quotas, I've never worked somewhere that even has quotas...). Like you could claim that there's female supremacy because women get custody of minor children more often without realizing that this is more because of the same notions of gender that keep women well below the glass ceiling.

So it's not cheap if you don't even know the person that much, and it's not cheap if from what you know of the person you absolutely hate them?

Nope. Nothing wrong with a one night stand.

I call some major fucking bullshit.

Ditto.

In that case I'd be gay then. But I'm not.
No, you're probably straight and frustrated at women. If you were gay, you probably wouldn't give a shit that cheerleaders are nothing but cockteases to boys like you.

Because, if I was sexually active, there's no way I'd do something that cheap.
Yeah, you've got principles, so you'd be sure to only buy the most expensive (and therefore highest-quality) sex on the market!

Myself, I think I'll stick with the kind of sex you don't have to buy. I prefer being with people who don't have to be paid to endure my presence.

Nope. Nothing wrong with a one night stand.



Ditto.

yer one night stand :D

google give you same you dont get on yahooI used both Yahoo and Google to try to translate your post.. and you froze them both..
what the.. now there is smoke out from my PC /$/%>ɨ:^..`/"%$?

Cheerleaders: w00t

New Naltir: raging bundle of bitterness.

In that case I'd be gay then. But I'm not.

Major issues with women=>gay?
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I call some major fucking bullshit.

I mean seriously, if you're going to make up some female supremacy bit, at least point out places where women actually have an advantage instead of making shit up (women never get bumped to the head of the line for voting, or get better jobs to fill quotas, I've never worked somewhere that even has quotas...). Like you could claim that there's female supremacy because women get custody of minor children more often without realizing that this is more because of the same notions of gender that keep women well below the glass ceiling.

Where do you live? Is affirmative action taking place there? If it is, then I won't say anything. If it isn't, then please don't say anything.

.. cockteases to boys like you.
cockteases?
what is that..
Will someone picture search that for me.. My search bars are frozen solid.

Your irrational hatred of cheerleaders suggests acceptance issues.

Irrational? Read the OP. Does that seem irrational?

Irrational? Read the OP. Does that seem irrational?
Yes, it does. Point form doesn't make it more rational.

Irrational? Read the OP. Does that seem irrational?

Actually it does.

In that case I'd be gay then. But I'm not.

Being gay has nothing to do with having issues with women. It's mostly the liking dick thing. On a related note Asexual doesn't mean Unwilling Virgin, it means no sexual desire. I've never met anyone who was actually asexual. I have met a few people who claimed it until they got laid.

Major issues with women=>gay?
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Yeah, men who actually aren't interested in sex with women usually don't go around whining about how women won't sleep with them.

Irrational? Read the OP. Does that seem irrational?

Excessively.

I used both Yahoo and Google to try to translate your post.. and you froze them both..
what the.. now there is smoke out from my PC /$/%>ɨ:^..`/"%$?

shit fucking pc
i fix one thing and one more thing start to go :headbang:
add word thing

Yeah, you've got principles, so you'd be sure to only buy the most expensive (and therefore highest-quality) sex on the market!

Myself, I think I'll stick with the kind of sex you don't have to buy. I prefer being with people who don't have to be paid to endure my presence.

Wait, what the fuck? I never said I would buy sex. I said that having sex with someone who you don't even know and from what you know about them you hate them is cheap. I never said that I would rather pay for high quality sex instead of getting low quality sex for free. I would never pay for sex. Hell, I wouldn't even HAVE sex.

Where do you live? Is affirmative action taking place there? If it is, then I won't say anything. If it isn't, then please don't say anything.
I live in Canada, I've never encountered affirmative action.

However, most of the studies I read about women being kept out of the cushy, well paying jobs that they're more qualified for than their male counterparts come from the US. Seriously, you can't invent "facts" to further your "points" that's not how debating works.

No, you're probably straight and frustrated at women. If you were gay, you probably wouldn't give a shit that cheerleaders are nothing but cockteases to boys like you.

Cut the man a break. If he says he's asexual, he's probably telling the truth. Just trying to tell him he's an emo freak who can't get laid won't convince him any more than trying to tell him he's Santa Claus.

As for the whole having women cut in front of men to vote...I've never heard of that. I've also never heard of a quota of female voters. Not saying they don't exist, but it's a little odd that CNN hasn't said anything about it somewhere. Besides, aren't those things illegal? The 19th Amendment says the right to vote can't be denied based on sex; the way I see it, that works both ways.

Being gay has nothing to do with having issues with women. It's mostly the liking dick thing. On a related note Asexual doesn't mean Unwilling Virgin, it means no sexual desire. I've never met anyone who was actually asexual. I have met a few people who claimed it until they got laid.

Yeah, I have no willing desire. Get that through your and everybody elses skull, will you?

Being gay has nothing to do with having issues with women. It's mostly the liking dick thing. On a related note Asexual doesn't mean Unwilling Virgin, it means no sexual desire. I've never met anyone who was actually asexual. I have met a few people who claimed it until they got laid.
I have one friend who has been laid but he still describes himself as asexual. He says that he just had sex because his girlfriend at the time wanted to. I actually believe him on that point.

Yeah, men who actually aren't interested in sex with women usually don't go around whining about how women won't sleep with them.

I'm not whining about how they won't sleep with me. I'm whining about how they're complete and total douchebags and assholes.

Wait, what the fuck? I never said I would buy sex. I said that having sex with someone who you don't even know and from what you know about them you hate them is cheap.

As opposed to...expensive sex?


I never said that I would rather pay for high quality sex instead of getting low quality sex for free. I would never pay for sex. Hell, I wouldn't even HAVE sex.
For somebody who wouldn't have sex, you sure do talk about sex an awful lot.

Cut the man a break. If he says he's asexual, he's probably telling the truth. Just trying to tell him he's an emo freak who can't get laid won't convince him any more than trying to tell him he's Santa Claus.
If he was asexual then he wouldn't be complaining about women who won't date or sleep with him.

Again
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What the hell do you care? New naliitr not actively pursuing sex => less competition for you. So give it a rest.

I live in Canada, we don't have affirmative action.

However, most of the studies I read about women being kept out of the cushy, well paying jobs that they're more qualified for than their male counterparts come from the US. Seriously, you can't invent "facts" to further your "points" that's not how debating works.

Listen, Dakini. Where I live there is affirmative action. Just because I live in the U.S. doesn't mean I'm like the place where you got your info.

I'm not whining about how they won't sleep with me. I'm whining about how they're complete and total douchebags and assholes.
You frequently come to General to whine about how fictional characters are assholes. You've whined about how fictional castrating-bitch feminazis are assholes, and now you're whining about how fictional Mean Girlz cheerleaders are assholes. Turn off the OC and go meet some real people.

I'm not whining about how they won't sleep with me. I'm whining about how they're complete and total douchebags and assholes.
So then why aren't you complaining about the men who act just like these women do, i.e. the stereotypical highschool football player? Why did you make a thread complaining about how women ignore nice guys when guys do the same fucking thing?

For somebody who wouldn't have sex, you sure do talk about sex an awful lot.

Hey, I wasn't the one who started the discussion about sex. I was the one who started the discussion about how cheerleaders are douchebags and assholes.

I've never worked somewhere that even has quotas...).

Well they don't keep quota filled charts on the wall or throw office parties when they meet a minority quota.

I'm not whining about how they won't sleep with me. I'm whining about how they're complete and total douchebags and assholes.

Huzzah vast sweeping generalisations!

I have one friend who has been laid but he still describes himself as asexual. He says that he just had sex because his girlfriend at the time wanted to. I actually believe him on that point.

Oh it happens I'm sure, it's just very rare. Not sure how rare, I could google it, but frankly I'm far too disinterested.

You frequently come to General to whine about how fictional characters are assholes. You've whined about how fictional castrating-bitch feminazis are assholes, and now you're whining about how fictional Mean Girlz cheerleaders are assholes. Turn off the OC and go meet some real people.

Fictional? This comes from my real experiences, at a real high school.

I hate to derail the topic back to the original purpose, but yeah. I have a disdain for highschool cheerleaders. I was laughing reading the original list, because he sounds so bitter, but 90% of the things he wrote, I experienced myself.

My highschool didn't have cheerleaders. I think my university does but I've never come into contact with them and they'd have to have at least a decent head on their shoulders to get here in the first place.

University cheerleaders are okay...same with football players and such...once they start going to the uni, they all of a sudden start to grow up and become more human (especially if they are not in a frat/sorority house.)

Even if I wasn't, if one of them came up to me and offered sex, I'd punch her in the face.

Ha, I used to write stories where some random cheerleader would offer one of the primary characters sex, and he would head butt them in the face. Ahh, I love writing, where you can live out your wildest dreams (other than your actual dreams.)

Listen, Dakini. Where I live there is affirmative action. Just because I live in the U.S. doesn't mean I'm like the place where you got your info.
Fine then, bring me some evidence.

Give me some news reports of women getting bumped ahead in the lines for voting, about underqualified women being promoted before their well qualified male peers.

Huzzah vast sweeping generalisations!

Huzzah for you not realizing I'm still talking about the stereotypical cheerleaders whom I see all over my school!

So then why aren't you complaining about the men who act just like these women do, i.e. the stereotypical highschool football player? Why did you make a thread complaining about how women ignore nice guys when guys do the same fucking thing?

Because there wasn't a thread about an NSGer's football playing son on the front page.

Well they don't keep quota filled charts on the wall or throw office parties when they meet a minority quota.
I worked at a couple of places that didn't have anyone who worked there who wasn't white. I'm pretty sure they didn't have quotas.

I worked at a couple of places that didn't have anyone who worked there who wasn't white. I'm pretty sure they didn't have quotas.

I suspect you went to a university that did, though.

Fine then, bring me some evidence.

Give me some news reports of women getting bumped ahead in the lines for voting, about underqualified women being promoted before their well qualified male peers.

Oh yes, obviously they would report reverse discrimination in the workplace and at voting booths! :rolleyes:

It's from my parent's, my brother's and their friend's experiences.

Fictional? This comes from my real experiences, at a real high school.
You'll forgive me if I'm disinclined to take your word for it. Based on your behavior around here, I think it's a lot more likely that the girls at your school are as unwilling to put up with your tantrums as we are around here. Assuming you aren't simply a troll making up your entire character, you're a very controlling and angry person who seems obsessed about the many ways in which other humans fail to live according to your personal desires. Most girls don't give the time of day to guys like that, so it wouldn't surprise me if you're getting the cold shoulder from many of them.

Oh yes, obviously they would report reverse discrimination in the workplace and at voting booths! :rolleyes:

It's from my parent's, my brother's and their friend's experiences.

It's heresay and rumors. And unproveable. Therefore, for the purposes of this discussion, it does not exist.

Because there wasn't a thread about an NSGer's football playing son on the front page.
Ok... you could have titled the thread "What do you think of Cheerleaders and the popular kids in highschool." not only would you have reached the people who didn't have cheerleaders at their highschools (every highschool has vapid, stupid people who are somehow popular) but you wouldn't have been targetting women.


Still doesn't answer the second question about the other thread though...

What the hell do you care? New naliitr not actively pursuing sex => less competition for you. So give it a rest.
Considering we're different ages and live on different land masses I doubt we'd ever be pursuing the same girl.
Huzzah for you not realizing I'm still talking about the stereotypical cheerleaders whom I see all over my school!

Get a blog and stop whining all over NS about how people in your high school are wankers.

I suspect you went to a university that did, though.
We didn't have boxes to check for gender or race on our applications to university. There was a box to check if you were native, but other than that, no.

Huzzah for you not realizing I'm still talking about the stereotypical cheerleaders whom I see all over my school!

When I was in high school, back in the Pleistocene, cheerleaders did seem to come from some difference universe in many ways. Still, I knew one or two and I don't think I'd categorize them as total douchebags and assholes. Naliitr, I think you ought to think about why you're obsessing about them so much. And consider this: school is not forever, soon you'll be out there (sliding down the razor blade of life, as Tom Lehrer so eloquently put it) and these cheerleaders who rile you up so much now will be a fading memory. And after a decade or so, you'll go to a reunion, or maybe meet one of them somewhere, and her figure will be wrecked from popping out the spawn of some football player, her hair will be a mess, and you'll think, "What was I so pissed off about back then?"

Get a blog and stop whining all over NS about how people in your high school are wankers.
I second that motion.

I have no problem with people bringing personal topics to General, or raising questions that are personally important to them. I have no problem with occasional spam or silliness. I have no problem with people expressing their personalities and bringing their personal perspectives to discussion.

But when all your posts and threads are about your personal drama and the high school crap that you just can't seem to get over, then it's time for you to find another outlet. Get your own page where you can rant and rave about the meanie-head cheerleaders and the stupid jocks who pick on you.

Oh yes, obviously they would report reverse discrimination in the workplace and at voting booths! :rolleyes:

It's from my parent's, my brother's and their friend's experiences.
1. yes, they would report it, it would fall under the category of news.

2. How do we know that these people don't hate women as much as you do? How do we know the circumstances behind it (maybe there were medical issues so she got special permission to jump the queue)?

Get a blog and stop whining all over NS about how people in your high school are wankers.

Then encourage every single last NSGer to simply leave. Why? Because the majority of NSG is made up of people complaining. And since you obviously think that everyone who is just complaining should just complain in their blog, then it's obvious that NSG shouldn't exist.

yes in Canada, there is no AffAct imposed by the Gov.

on the other hand.. private and Crown Corporation may have some voluntary programs from time to time.

Then encourage every single last NSGer to simply leave. Why? Because the majority of NSG is made up of people complaining. And since you obviously think that everyone who is just complaining should just complain in their blog, then it's obvious that NSG shouldn't exist.
Sometimes people complain about things that are relevant to everyone else.

Instead, you just bitch about girls in highschool who won't give you the time of day while claiming that you're not interested in them even though you clearly are.

@ Dakini, sooner or later soemone may pull a link on you, better correct you shot early.
Done.

1. yes, they would report it, it would fall under the category of news.

2. How do we know that these people don't hate women as much as you do? How do we know the circumstances behind it (maybe there were medical issues so she got special permission to jump the queue)?

1. I don't hate women.

2. Some of them are women who can't believe they're being pushed ahead to first in line, while there's men who are already ahead of her.

Get your own page where you can rant and rave about the meanie-head cheerleaders and the stupid jocks who pick on you.

Yes, get a page that no one will read and that will not make a difference to anybody at all.

1. I don't hate women.

2. Some of them are women who can't believe they're being pushed ahead to first in line, while there's men who are already ahead of her.
1. I think you do. Or at least you dislike us greatly.
2. I really think you're making this up.
3. Why aren't you addressing issues like women getting these cushy jobs they're not qualified for? Surely that would make the news and you claimed that it happens often...

Yes, get a page that no one will read and that will not make a difference to anybody at all.
Is that somehow worse than making a page that people will read and think you're an asshole over?

Sometimes people complain about things that are relevant to everyone else.

Instead, you just bitch about girls in highschool who won't give you the time of day while claiming that you're not interested in them even though you clearly are.

Listen, Dakini. I respect you. I really do. But I'm really beginning to hate you when you begin to presume you know what my sexuality is even though I told you it's the exact opposite of what you think it is. Unless you're in my head, don't say what my interests are.

Then encourage every single last NSGer to simply leave. Why? Because the majority of NSG is made up of people complaining. And since you obviously think that everyone who is just complaining should just complain in their blog, then it's obvious that NSG shouldn't exist.

People should complain about their personal lives in their blogs, or diaries, or to/with their friends. And complaining about something relevant to a lot of other people here is fine, but that seems to be all you do, complain about highschool and the people contained within.

Yes, get a page that no one will read and that will not make a difference to anybody at all.

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You think this thread is going to make any difference to anybody at all?

Listen, Dakini. I respect you. I really do. But I'm really beginning to hate you when you begin to presume you know what my sexuality is even though I told you it's the exact opposite of what you think it is. Unless you're in my head, don't say what my interests are.
I'm just saying that if you weren't at all interested in women, you wouldn't care who they dated or how they treated the people they date.

I mean, I'm not interested in most women in that way, so I don't really care who they date (unless it's someone I'd want to date) or how they treat him (again, unless I wanted to date that someone they're dating...) and really, it's the same deal with men I'm not interested in, I mean, if I'm friends with them then I'll care about who they're dating because they're my friend and I want them to be happy, but if they're a total stranger (or an acquaintance at school) then I won't care. I might think they're douchebags to the people they do date, but I wouldn't care enough to make a thread about it.

And when you combine this with threads like the "nice guys" one you made, it does look like you have some interest in *gasp* sex with *gasp* women, but they won't give you the time of day and you don't know how to get them to do so, so you just get mad and blaime it on them being shallow bitches.

I dunno, it's just that for someone who is so asexual, you carry on like a sexually frustrated straight man who just wants to get laid. I suspect that the asexual bit is more that you're afraid than you lack interest. Or you're a late bloomer.

I think cheerleaders taste great.

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Women have supremacy?! On this planet?! What the fuck are you talking about?! Even in the western world where we are "equals" we are generally under-represented in policitcs, kept out of high paying jobs through various prejudices against women in leadership roles and earn 70% of what a man does. Now let's talk about the rest of the world... let's see do you want to start with the places that force women to cover themselves head to toe lest they be mutilated? The places where if a woman is raped, she's not allowed to testify against her rapists because she's not a man, but she can be punished for having admitted to sex outside of marriage? The places where women are subjected to genital mutilation to assuage the fears of men that they're not going to run off with another man?

I certainly agree with you in most points (and then some) but theres this one lil bit of shit in all that truly sensible stuff and thats the bullshit about women getting less pay for the same job as a man would.. the reason women get less salary on a country average is mostly if not completely because they choose professions that really dont pay shit.. ie: teachers, nurses and the like. and i am taking median figures in consideration too and the high profile jobs (politics and lead industry CEOs) dont really make the figures shift for few percents. I think people should be hired entirely based on their competence no matter if it shifts the quota towards men or women (which clearly doesnt show in private sector) as for politics well.. too bad women dont vote more women (theres is more women in most of the western countries than there is men.) But all in all you do make a very good point aside the pay.

PS. nobody likes a feminist as they clearly dont want equality but supremacy (this is not directed towards Dakini but towards those pesky feminists)

PS. nobody likes a feminist as they clearly dont want equality but supremacy (this is not directed towards Dakini but towards those pesky feminists)
Feminism is based on equality of the sexes, not supremacy of one over the other.

I have to leave for class so I can't elaborate, I'm sure someone else will though...

Then encourage every single last NSGer to simply leave. Why? Because the majority of NSG is made up of people complaining. And since you obviously think that everyone who is just complaining should just complain in their blog, then it's obvious that NSG shouldn't exist.
It's one thing to complain about issues that also matter to other people. For instance, complaining about the military activities going on around the world is something that is important to more people than just you. Complaining about human rights violations is about more than just your hurt feelings. Complaining about pending legislation in your state or country is something that other people might actually have reason to care about.

And if, from time to time, you have some personal issue you need to vent about, that's cool too. It happens to the best of us.

But if you want people to listen to your sob stories about your high school drama and make sympathetic noises at you, this ain't the place for you. Talk to one of your friends. Write in your blog. Or you could even just accept that you don't have to make all your feelings everybody else's business at all times, and you could write in a private journal of your own. You'll find all of those options will reward you with more sympathy than you'll find around General Forum. :D

PS. nobody likes a feminist as they clearly dont want equality but supremacy (this is not directed towards Dakini but towards those pesky feminists)
As Dakini said, a person who believes in supremacy of either gender is, by definition, not a feminist. If you want to complain about people who support discrimination on the basis of sex, then you are talking about anti-feminists. Calling such people "feminists" is like calling somebody a dog-lover because they hate all dogs...it's just plain silly.

Cheerleaders? I think they're delicious.

When I was younger, I loved attractive, bubbly blondes that couldnt think for themselves and had no real opinions. I liked the brunettes and redheads too.

Now I like a woman that can cook and do tax returns and keep the kids out of my hair while I try to make a living.
And still be a cheerleader in the sack. (We met in highschool. she was cheerleader)

I have to leave for class so I can't elaborate, I'm sure someone else will though...I am sure Bottle and others will guard the fort.

as for Satteia comment.. all I can say is:

I think "feminists" are not a monolithic bloc.. they have a wide range of philosophies.

Cheerleaders? I think they're delicious.

When I was younger, I loved attractive, bubbly blondes that couldnt think for themselves and had no real opinions. I liked the brunettes and redheads too.

Now I like a woman that can cook and do tax returns and keep the kids out of my hair while I try to make a living.
And still be a cheerleader in the sack. (We met in highschool. she was cheerleader)

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Joking!

Never saw any outside TV.

ditto

Cheerleader outfits are hot.

Cheerleader outfits are hot.

Only if the girl who just dropped it on the bedroom floor is too.

Only if the girl who just dropped it on the bedroom floor is too.

Why drop it? Lift up the skirt. Easy access, my friend. ;)

Only if the girl who just dropped it on the bedroom floor is too.

:D

they're very flexible, athleticly built, known to stick large things in their mouth (megaphones)... Yeah, they're pretty much just great to have sex with. Sorry, I was a football player and "dated" a few cheerleaders. Why is this guy so angry though. Can't we all just be happy they are slutty, show their naughty parts, and like to bang?

:p :eek:

Why drop it? Lift up the skirt. Easy access, my friend. ;)

Why leave her clothes on if you've manage to get her to your room?

they're very flexible, athleticly built, known to stick large things in their mouth (megaphones)... Yeah, the're pretty much just great to have sex with. Sorry, I weas a football player and "dated" a few chearleaders. Why is this guy so angry though. Can't we all jsut be happy they are slutty, show their naughty parts, and like to bang?

:p :eek:

I like you.

Huzzah for you not realizing I'm still talking about the stereotypical cheerleaders whom I see all over my school!

Shit man... How many cheerleaders are at your school?

You make it sound like every girl at your school is a cheerleader!

Damn I wish I went to your school.



As to who they choose to be friends with, who they like and who they date... WHY THE HELL DO YOU CARE?! If you dislike cheerleaders that much then WHY do you care if they only date the footballers are are not friends with you? Seriously?


And how the hell does affermative action work in High School?

Why leave her clothes on if you've manage to get her to your room?

Cuz the outfit's hot. ;)

Cuz the outfit's hot. ;)

This is true. Well, you can always take secret option number 3. All of the above.

This is true. Well, you can always take secret option number 3. All of the above.

And I have... ;)

but theres this one lil bit of shit in all that truly sensible stuff and thats the bullshit about women getting less pay for the same job as a man would.. the reason women get less salary on a country average is mostly if not completely because they choose professions that really dont pay shit.

WRONG!

Women doing the SAME job in the SAME company are frequently paid less than the a man sitting on the desk next to them.

And I have... ;)

Curse you and your drunken charm, I want cheerleader secks!
*sets about importing cheerleaders into Ireland*

Curse you and your drunken charm, I want cheerleader secks!
*sets about importing cheerleaders into Ireland*

iam with you on that idea

Curse you and your drunken charm, I want cheerleader secks!
*sets about importing cheerleaders into Ireland*

I got out of a grounding when I was in high school by telling my dad, "Hey, I'm gonna bang a cheerleader from the Catholic school!"

He hung his head and said, "Fine. Go."

The only cheerleader I ever saw was someone dressed as one for a party, and damn she was hot.
She'd also put artful rips in the costume (Hallowe'en theme) :D

I was sooo regretting giving up on persuading *a friend of mine* to go as a cheerleader, I can tell you that for nothing.

Heh, the outfit is sexy, so are a lot of the occupants, and if you don't like a lot of the individuals, don't play their game. Stop whining.

You make it sound like every girl at your school is a cheerleader!

Damn I wish I went to your school.

And how the hell does affermative action work in High School? the Cheerleaders will :fluffle: with one very good looking kid on monday, and some ugly one on tueasday.. the atletic QB on wesnesday and the wimp on thursday, the nerd on friday.


:D :D

I got out of a grounding when I was in high school by telling my dad, "Hey, I'm gonna bang a cheerleader from the Catholic school!"

He hung his head and said, "Fine. Go."

If I had a son I'd let him off to go corrupt some chick from a catholic school. Well if all the schools in Ireland weren't Catholic.

Shit man... How many cheerleaders are at your school?

You make it sound like every girl at your school is a cheerleader!

Damn I wish I went to your school.




Yeah-it sounds like an All You Can Eat Buffet.

People this mad at cheerleaders may go on to kill prostitutes and put them through a wood chipper or leave them under beds in hotel rooms.

Yeah-it sounds like an All You Can Eat Buffet.

People this mad at cheerleaders may go on to kill prostitutes and put them through a wood chipper or leave them under beds in hotel rooms.

Another way in which GTA reflects real life. You can get your money back from a prostitute by running her over afterwards.

If I had a son I'd let him off to go corrupt some chick from a catholic school. Well if all the schools in Ireland weren't Catholic.

I think my bigot of a father was just happy to learn I wasn't gay, which he suspected throughout my teen years.

the Cheerleaders will :fluffle: with one very good looking kid on monday, and some ugly one on tueasday.. the atletic QB on wesnesday and the wimp on thursday, the nerd on friday.


:D :D

Woot!

Good Looking, Rugby player who's good at the nerdy stuff!

Monday, Wednesday and Friday for me!

I think my bigot of a father was just happy to learn I wasn't gay, which he suspected throughout my teen years.

Meh, you got to go bang a cheerleader, who cares about him, eh?

People this mad at cheerleaders may go on to kill prostitutes and put them through a wood chipper or leave them under beds in hotel rooms.
This was actually my thoughts while reading this thread.

"November 15, 2008: New Naliitr sentenced to death for 2007 killing spree of high school cheerleaders and prostitutes" (or some similar NSG front page news or whatever)

*shudder* :(

I got out of a grounding when I was in high school by telling my dad, "Hey, I'm gonna bang a cheerleader from the Catholic school!"

He hung his head and said, "Fine. Go."

will were you going out to bang a cheerleader from a Catholic school

i live on a university campus in the UK where we happen to have not only an american football team, but a cheerleading squad (who are shared by all the major sports teams)

i know several members of the the team personally (and entirely platonically) none of them conform to the stereotypes of the OP and i suspect the same will hold true for cheerleaders in the US as well.

by and large they are smart, decent girls who see cheerleading as a hobby not as an exalted social status.

we dont have cheerleaders in sunny ol' england but they look like a barrel 'o' larfs... why do US schools hav such hierarchies? over here we're all just a bit of a mess...

I got out of a grounding when I was in high school by telling my dad, "Hey, I'm gonna bang a cheerleader from the Catholic school!"

He hung his head and said, "Fine. Go."


I'd do the same- grounding is one thing, but cock-blocking is an unfair punishment.

we dont have cheerleaders in sunny ol' england but they look like a barrel 'o' larfs... why do US schools hav such hierarchies? over here we're all just a bit of a mess...

Because we're better than you. :p

That does seem to be the recurring theme in the OP, doesn't it? "Cheerleaders think they're better than everyone else." I think the telling point is that last one, about them not apologizing for spilling milk on people. Ah, high school, where everything that happens is the equivalent of the Permian Extinction Event (90% of life on Earth wiped out).

a cheerleading squad (who are shared by all the major sports teams).

Sounds like a porno 'storeyline'.

I got out of a grounding when I was in high school by telling my dad, "Hey, I'm gonna bang a cheerleader from the Catholic school!"

He hung his head and said, "Fine. Go."actually.. my friend would get to borrow Daddy's BMW with that line..

Sounds like a porno 'storeyline'.***** does Dallas :D

This was actually my thoughts while reading this thread.

"November 15, 2008: New Naliitr sentenced to death for 2007 killing spree of high school cheerleaders and prostitutes" (or some similar NSG front page news or whatever)

*shudder* :(

yeah-too much hostility towards them.

Sounds like a porno 'storeyline'.

I have no doubt there are several films with that exact premise.

I'd do the same- grounding is one thing, but cock-blocking is an unfair punishment.Its always good to make your Dad proud.

Meh, you got to go bang a cheerleader, who cares about him, eh?

My thought at the time exactly. :cool:

I'd do the same- grounding is one thing, but cock-blocking is an unfair punishment.

No shite, huh?

Sounds like a porno 'storeyline'.

Sounds like? Hell, it is. I've got a few videos just like that. Which reminds me...

*runs off*

Sounds like? Hell, it is. I've got a few videos just like that. Which reminds me...

*runs off*

So that's why you left, lol

There's nothing really wrong with cheerleaders, although it's vaguely depressing to see them at professional sporting events. For many [cheerleaders for professional sports], if not all, it's their second job, so if the cheerleaders enjoy doing it, more power to them. In high school, hell, I figure they have the right to flaunt it whilst they still have it.

Objects of the male gaze of the hegemonic, predominantly male spectating group at a football game.

Objects of the male gaze of the hegemonic, predominantly male spectating group at a football game.

And that's wrong why?

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/OAEJAMIBBANG/CAR_PHI_178_JB.jpg

My experience with cheerleaders is they're like every other group in the world: varied. I've met VERY nice cheerleaders who were sweethearts.
(One I knew even took a band nerd to prom because he asked first).

Others are exactly as you describe them.

Just like any other group of people in the entire world. And if your qualifier at the beginning is the reason you made this post, then you answered your own question anyway. No one likes people like that.

Knew a cheerleader in highschool who was very smart, straight A student, and had a rack that looked like Dolly Parton.

Knew a cheerleader in highschool who was very smart, straight A student, and had a rack that looked like Dolly Parton.

But you never poked her, did ya? :p

And that's wrong why?

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/OAEJAMIBBANG/CAR_PHI_178_JB.jpg

I didn't say it was wrong.

But you never poked her, did ya? :p

No, now if she'd had a brother..

And that's wrong why?

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/OAEJAMIBBANG/CAR_PHI_178_JB.jpg

Uhm ... :D I may have to run off, myself. That image should keep me going the rest of the day, Cluich, thanks.

I didn't say it was wrong.

You can't. Cuz it's soooooo right. :D

No, now if she'd had a brother..

'k, you go that way...

There are male cheerleaders, yk'now. ;)

Uhm ... :D I may have to run off, myself. That image should keep me going the rest of the day, Cluich, thanks.

I do what I can. :cool:

You can't. Cuz it's soooooo right. :D

Well, one would suppose, yes. That is, for the heterosexual male in which a football game is catered towards, the cheerleaders become objects of sexuality for male viewing pleasures, subsequently oppressing the female body and perception of normality.

'k, you go that way...

There are male cheerleaders, yk'now. ;)

I think one of those is living in the White House right now. Kind of explains the "Bring it on" remark, I guess.

Well, one would suppose, yes. That is, for the heterosexual male in which a football game is catered towards, the cheerleaders become objects of sexuality for male viewing pleasures.

Viewing? That's only part of it. :p

I think one of those is living in the White House right now. Kind of explains the "Bring it on" remark, I guess.

Indeed.

http://espn.go.com/media/pg2/2001/0628/photo/u_dunst_hi.jpg

:D

Well, one would suppose, yes. That is, for the heterosexual male in which a football game is catered towards, the cheerleaders become objects of sexuality for male viewing pleasures, subsequently oppressing the female body and perception of normality.

It is not wrong to view members of whichever gender you are attracted to in a sexual way.

Well, unfortunately, it seems that where I come from women have a tendency to have more rights then men because of "affirmative action". They get better jobs, because they are needed to fill the "quota". They are allowed to step ahead of men in line for voting, because they are needed to fill the "quota". It's annoying.The closest the US has to "affirmative action" for women is title IX, regarding sports teams at public schools. There are no quotas. Untill you can demonstrate there are, no one is going to buy it. Additionally, you can't even vote yet, so the best you have is 2nd hand reports that women get to cut voting lines. There are NO quotas for voting, which is a voluntary process.

Irrational? Read the OP. Does that seem irrational?Immensely so. Rather than treat them as individuals, you treat them as carbon copies. Ironically, I assume thats what you think they have done to you, which would explain all of this bitterness.

I've only met one cheerleader I truly disliked. She was a bitch. Beyond that, I've been friends, good friends, and dated several, both in HS and college. I've found that, as with all other stereotypes, the ones about cheerleaders tend to be wrong.

There's a solid mix of decent people and asshats amongst the cheerleader population of the world, probably akin to the ratio that you find in the general populace.

WOW, I have been reading through this thread and decided this is as good a place as any other to make my first post.

The original thread truly offends me. I played football in high school and college. My fiancee was a cheer leader in high school and college. I can only hope that our children follow in our footsteps. We're both happy, healthy, well adjusted and successful people.

I am very offended that you would characterize her as some airhead or bimbo. She is presently in her final year of medical school and is near the top of her class. She has personally proven just about every statement you made to be false.

Perhaps you should consider coming to terms with your own sexuality and stop insulting those that do not conform to your personal views. Maybe you should concentrate on making yourself a better person and stop insulting those that you do not know. And maybe, just maybe, you should consider stepping away from the computer and building a social life of your own. Maybe that would take away some of the animosity towards those that thrive in social settings.

When, if ever, they are sad, they expect every single last person on campus to take notice and be sorry for her, no matter why she is sad.



I, uh, don't think that's possible at OSU.

WOW, I have been reading through this thread and decided this is as good a place as any other to make my first post.

The original thread truly offends me. I played football in high school and college. My fiancee was a cheer leader in high school and college. I can only hope that our children follow in our footsteps. We're both happy, healthy, well adjusted and successful people.

I am very offended that you would characterize her as some airhead or bimbo. She is presently in her final year of medical school and is near the top of her class. She has personally proven just about every statement you made to be false.

Perhaps you should consider coming to terms with your own sexuality and stop insulting those that do not conform to your personal views. Maybe you should concentrate on making yourself a better person and stop insulting those that you do not know. And maybe, just maybe, you should consider stepping away from the computer and building a social life of your own. Maybe that would take away some of the animosity towards those that thrive in social settings.

Sadly, thriving in social settings is often at the expense of those less fortunate. Clearly, this is not always the case, but it happens often enough, just the same. I wish that there were an easy way to reconcile the socially successful with the alienated and disenfranchised. It will most likely take concerted effort on both sides for any headway to be made. Dismissing the alienated and disenfranchised out of hand is, sadly, how they become alienated and disenfranchised. A handful of enlightened individuals on both sides, working together, may help to begin to build a bridge.

Sorry, I don't buy it. I have seen more than enough people decide to come out of their shell and thrive as individuals in whatever aspect of life they decide to pursue. While it may not be possible to become the most popular person on campus, it is possible to build a network of friends and associates.

All too often those that are "throwing rocks" at the more popular or accepted people in a given setting have never taken the time to try to get to know these people. In large, they will find that the people they hate for various reasons are all that far different from themselves. I have friends that do not outwardly seem to be all that similar to me. However, on a deeper level we are very much the same.

Too much importance is placed on what position we may hold in a social setting, and not what person we really are. It is not the fault of either side, just a reality. The cheerleaders and football players face the same issues as every other student. They want to be liked and accepted, and it bothers them when people don't like them. So, while you're sitting there wanting to know why that group of people doesn't like you, or why they seem to ignore you- they are thinking the same things. By taking the time to get to know them, you may find some great friends. If not, at least you know about that particular person. Like it or not, the same thing will be played out at every turn in your life. In college it will be the greeks, rather than the jocks. (Although, the athletes are often in this group as well.) In the corporate world it will be the executives and decision makers. There will always be divisions of people. At times you will find yourself on both sides of the fence. If you aren't willing to step out of the box and make an effort, you won't be happy regardless of where you happen to be.

Sorry, I don't buy it. I have seen more than enough people decide to come out of their shell and thrive as individuals in whatever aspect of life they decide to pursue. While it may not be possible to become the most popular person on campus, it is possible to build a network of friends and associates.

All too often those that are "throwing rocks" at the more popular or accepted people in a given setting have never taken the time to try to get to know these people. In large, they will find that the people they hate for various reasons are all that far different from themselves. I have friends that do not outwardly seem to be all that similar to me. However, on a deeper level we are very much the same.

Too much importance is placed on what position we may hold in a social setting, and not what person we really are. It is not the fault of either side, just a reality. The cheerleaders and football players face the same issues as every other student. They want to be liked and accepted, and it bothers them when people don't like them. So, while you're sitting there wanting to know why that group of people doesn't like you, or why they seem to ignore you- they are thinking the same things. By taking the time to get to know them, you may find some great friends. If not, at least you know about that particular person. Like it or not, the same thing will be played out at every turn in your life. In college it will be the greeks, rather than the jocks. (Although, the athletes are often in this group as well.) In the corporate world it will be the executives and decision makers. There will always be divisions of people. At times you will find yourself on both sides of the fence. If you aren't willing to step out of the box and make an effort, you won't be happy regardless of where you happen to be.

It takes both sides. Saying it's not your problem makes you part of the problem. Sorry, but that's the truth.
edit to add: I do agree that everyone's thinking the same thing. Maybe that's our starting point to bridge building?

Sadly, thriving in social settings is often at the expense of those less fortunate. Clearly, this is not always the case, but it happens often enough, just the same. I wish that there were an easy way to reconcile the socially successful with the alienated and disenfranchised. It will most likely take concerted effort on both sides for any headway to be made. Dismissing the alienated and disenfranchised out of hand is, sadly, how they become alienated and disenfranchised. A handful of enlightened individuals on both sides, working together, may help to begin to build a bridge.

This is quite true.

If I may, just for a moment, digress into the frivolous, cheerleaders can help build that bridge (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.chipola.edu/extrac/athl/cheerleader/pictures%252004-05/cheerleaders%2520018-04-05.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.chipola.edu/extrac/athl/cheerleader/pictures%252004-05/2004-05%2520Season%2520Highlights.htm&h=895&w=611&sz=95&hl=en&start=3&tbnid=4XtO9IPnd3JYGM:&tbnh=146&tbnw=100&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcheerleaders%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN).

It takes both sides. Saying it's not your problem makes you part of the problem. Sorry, but that's the truth.
Yes, it does take both sides, but it's a bit hard to muster up much enthusiasm for doing one's part when the other side is telling you that you're stupid, petty, and worthless.

In my experience, people are generally well-meaning. Most of the "popular" kids I've known were perfectly willing to be kind and thoughtful toward shy or less popular classmates, even if they didn't move in all the same circles. However, these popular kids aren't saints any more than any other kids are. If they are confronted by somebody who accuses them of being selfish nasty jerks, they're not likely to respond with hugs and flowers.

Most people, popular or otherwise, don't like being personally blamed for the fact that somebody else (who they have never met) is unhappy. I'm guessing that popular kids don't appreciate being told that their success automatically oppresses somebody else. Especially since it doesn't necessarily do that at all.

Yes, it does take both sides, but it's a bit hard to muster up much enthusiasm for doing one's part when the other side is telling you that you're stupid, petty, and worthless.

In my experience, people are generally well-meaning. Most of the "popular" kids I've known were perfectly willing to be kind and thoughtful toward shy or less popular classmates, even if they didn't move in all the same circles. However, these popular kids aren't saints any more than any other kids are. If they are confronted by somebody who accuses them of being selfish nasty jerks, they're not likely to respond with hugs and flowers.

Most people, popular or otherwise, don't like being personally blamed for the fact that somebody else (who they have never met) is unhappy. I'm guessing that popular kids don't appreciate being told that their success automatically oppresses somebody else. Especially since it doesn't necessarily do that at all.

same of the things you have said i have find out to be true

in school I saw both groups from outside of the class circles ,an I did see same of them get along

They like me.

same of the things you have said i have find out to be true

in school I saw both groups from outside of the class circles ,an I did see same of them get along
I guess I went to a weird high school, because we didn't really have the kind of nerds-vs-jocks animosity that a lot of people describe.

For instance, there was a guy named Steve in my class who was like the ultimate golden boy. He was captain of the football and baseball teams, dated a cheerleader, and even had a head of lovely blonde hair. He wasn't a terrific student, but he was an amazing athlete. In the movies, he'd be the one sticking nerds in trashcans. In reality, he was a nice fellow who frequently talked about how he wished he was smart enough to be a "nerd." He sought out tutoring so he could take advanced classes, and was good friends with a guy named James who honestly looked like he'd stepped right out of Geek Magazine.

The most popular girls in our school were all in AP classes. All of them qualified as National Merit Semifinalists or better.

And no, I was not at some fancy private school. I was just at a regular old public school in the midwest.

Eh never really interacted with cheerleaders, but they were major bitches at my school.

I guess I went to a weird high school, because we didn't really have the kind of nerds-vs-jocks animosity that a lot of people describe.

For instance, there was a guy named Steve in my class who was like the ultimate golden boy. He was captain of the football and baseball teams, dated a cheerleader, and even had a head of lovely blonde hair. He wasn't a terrific student, but he was an amazing athlete. In the movies, he'd be the one sticking nerds in trashcans. In reality, he was a nice fellow who frequently talked about how he wished he was smart enough to be a "nerd." He sought out tutoring so he could take advanced classes, and was good friends with a guy named James who honestly looked like he'd stepped right out of Geek Magazine.

The most popular girls in our school were all in AP classes. All of them qualified as National Merit Semifinalists or better.

And no, I was not at some fancy private school. I was just at a regular old public school in the midwest.

well those days are long gone
an i just went to state schools

Heh, we never had 'nerds-vs-jocks'.

We had a group we called jocks, true. But more because they were mostly pretty stupid, and played for the 1st XV in rugby...
Some of my best mates were in that group, when naturally I fitted more into the other...
So it's not a fact of nature. Half my history A-level class were jocks, and we all got along fine.
And it's not an olden-days thing, I only left school a coupla years ago.
And it's very true to say that by the time you're at university (well, in my experience) you don't divide on those sort of lines. Not least because everyone is there to study academically.

I want to be a cheerleader but I didn't make the try outs. The girls there were really friendly though. Too bad I can't do push ups.

Don't know any, to my great relief. To be honest they aren't a feature of English society, but I can appreciate the "type" they represent, and they piss me off no end.

I don't think cheerleading is that big outside the States.

I don't think cheerleading is that big outside the States.

Another reason America needs to control the world. :p

Another reason America needs to control the world. :p

More girls doing high kicks in mini skirts!

Also: For those of you whose schools don't have cheerleaders, you're lucky. Mine is god damned full of them. You're lucky you've never interacted with them, let alone seen them.

hmmm

we have cheerleaders here... but not like that >_>

generaly almost everyone acts about the same around here...kinda boring to have everyone act so damn similer :/ we need more damn people to add veriety!

Another reason America needs to control the world. :p

Not to thread hi-jack a little, but sport is diminished by cheerleaders, t-shirts fired into the crowd and fireworks. Just a little immature and crass. It lacks class.

My daughter is a cheerleader, and almost none of those things apply to her.

The cheerleaders you describe only exist on television shows.

Sadly, thriving in social settings is often at the expense of those less fortunate. Clearly, this is not always the case, but it happens often enough, just the same. I wish that there were an easy way to reconcile the socially successful with the alienated and disenfranchised. It will most likely take concerted effort on both sides for any headway to be made. Dismissing the alienated and disenfranchised out of hand is, sadly, how they become alienated and disenfranchised. A handful of enlightened individuals on both sides, working together, may help to begin to build a bridge.

It really doesn't take that much effort.

My high school class was always very seperated. We had three elementary schools, one middle, one high. Beginning in 6th grade, the divisions were clear and well defined. I was on the loser side...not by choice, mind you, but because I was painfully shy, bitter, self-loathing, and therefore, hated everyone else.

9th grade, I came out of my shell a little. By senior year, I had my close friend circle, but I was friends with most of the class. I wasn't the typical "popular" guy. I was still a little quiet. I did drama club, and no major sports, and was in all honors classes. Yet I had friends in every group from the goths to the cheerleaders and football players. One day, I chose to go out with the "popular" kids instead of my regular friends (I wanted a change for a night). When I was talking with my close circle, they started to talk about my "popular" friends, about how shallow and bitchy they were and how no body really liked them and they were all fake...I mentioned that they liked me, and the reasoning that my female friends came up with was "you have a penis".
Ironically, the "popular" girls wanted to hang out with my close circle and get to know them. I refused to allow this to happen because I knew how my non"popular" friends would respond. It seemed quite ironic to me that the group that professed that they were more open-minded and accepting were a bigger part of the problem.

The moral of this? It doesn't take much to be accepted. But before you can, you have to get over the "us v. them" attitude. Are there divisions? yes. Do people have their close friends? yes. Are these often determined by similar likes and activities (particularly in high school)? yes. Does that mean that I can't date a cheerleader? Nope.

It took me two years to get over myself enough to start hanging out with all the "cool" kids. My entire class didn't start to get it untill there were only two months left of high school. I can honestly say they missed out on alot by being so damn bitter.

People are not sereotypes. Stop looking to love and hate types of people, and start looking to love and hate individuals. You'll get alot farther and be much happier.

*snip* but only for brevity

To paraphrase, I think, teenagers in high school are incredibly insecure and so tend to form cliques. As you ... dare I say it? grow up, you grow out of that.

To paraphrase, I think, teenagers in high school are incredibly insecure and so tend to form cliques. As you ... dare I say it? grow up, you grow out of that.

haha...yeah, that about covers it. I personally found most of the insecurity came from that god awful concept of "middle school" (seriously...who thought that was a good idea?) and most people grew out of it by 10th grade...sadly, I guess some wounds are slow to heal, but they seemed to be done with them by snr year.

haha...yeah, that about covers it. I personally found most of the insecurity came from that god awful concept of "middle school" (seriously...who thought that was a good idea?) and most people grew out of it by 10th grade...sadly, I guess some wounds are slow to heal, but they seemed to be done with them by snr year.

middle school that one thing iam happy to say we dont have here

haha...yeah, that about covers it. I personally found most of the insecurity came from that god awful concept of "middle school" (seriously...who thought that was a good idea?) and most people grew out of it by 10th grade...sadly, I guess some wounds are slow to heal, but they seemed to be done with them by snr year.

"Middle school" hadn't been invented but we did have Junior High (7th, 8th and 9th grades). The cliques started there, but of course, we were all getting into our teen years then. People underwent some changes when we hit high school in 10th grade, if only because we went from top predators to bottom feeders. Those years are amazingly intense, your body's doing all sorts of astonishing things to you, inside and outside, your emotions are all over the map (it's often like what being bipolar must be like, you're up, you're down, you're up, you're down), all the adults that you used to look up to suddenly became incredibly stupid and unfeeling, especially when it comes to the heart- and soul-wrenching feeling you're experiencing. I'm surprised most kids live through it.

In my experience, people are generally well-meaning. Most of the "popular" kids I've known were perfectly willing to be kind and thoughtful toward shy or less popular classmates, even if they didn't move in all the same circles. However, these popular kids aren't saints any more than any other kids are. If they are confronted by somebody who accuses them of being selfish nasty jerks, they're not likely to respond with hugs and flowers.
I dunno, when I was in highschool I was made fun of for the first 3.5 years (like every other year of my school until that point) and I hadn't actually done anything to the popular kids at that point. They were going out of their way to be jerks to me and I would usually try to be nice, but my naivete and general lack of experience made me an easy target. Eventually I stopped caring and started to ignore those people and found friends among those who were at least as socially awkward as I was.

I suppose in my last year of highschool (it was 5 years) I made a number of comics targetting the stupidity of some of my more popular classmates, but that was more because they were genuinely stupid and would sometimes try to pretend to be smarter than me and say really stupid things.

Of course, I never blamed anyone for myself being unpopular. I just thought they were rude and mean for teasing me constantly.

haha...yeah, that about covers it. I personally found most of the insecurity came from that god awful concept of "middle school" (seriously...who thought that was a good idea?) and most people grew out of it by 10th grade...sadly, I guess some wounds are slow to heal, but they seemed to be done with them by snr year.

I know middle school was like hell from all directions, not just from the "popular kids". We were all trying to find our identities in middle school, and a weak identity is a surefire way for conflict and asshattery.

Nice to look but once you start talking to them it's probably more useful to bang your head against the wall.

Never saw any outside TV.

Ditto.

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, cheer.

:)

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, cheer.

:)
:mad:

:mad:

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Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, cheer.

:)

I thought it was, "those who can't teach, teach gym". :p

I thought it was, "those who can't teach, teach gym". :p

I guess that depends on how many repressed homosexual fantasies they have, doesn't it? :p

Personally, I was always fond of cheerleaders. Then again, I played football, so I guess that means I was 'accepted' by them.

Now that I'm older, I can't really watch them without feeling like a perv. I mean, am I the only one whose wife has told them to turn off the National Cheerleading Championships that air on ESPN ?? :D

I guess that depends on how many repressed homosexual fantasies they have, doesn't it? :p

Well....my elementary school & high school gym teachers were lesbians...I wonder if you're onto something there...:eek: :p

Well....my elementary school & high school gym teachers were lesbians...I wonder if you're onto something there...:eek: :p

Why is it that people always accuse me of either being onto something or on something? :confused:

Why is it that people always accuse me of either being onto something or on something? :confused:

Maybe because it's True....:confused: ;)

I like cheeleaders, personally. The ones I met were cute and nice. Not to mention their uniforms are teh sexy.

Inspired by my inner bitterness.

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And a hell of a lot more(of what?).
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I'm sure if I knew any cheerleaders like that, I might have a problem with them.

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aww...who can stay mad with a face like that?

Just you wait untill I end up with the little goofballs in my class.;)

Save the Cheerleader
Save the World

<snip bitter rant>
Out of curiosity, have you ever tried having a conversation with any of the cheerleaders at your school? Someone has probably mentioned this by now, but I think you'll find that the proportion of jerks to nice people among them will be (*gasp*) comparable to the proportion of jerks to nice people in the general population.

I was a cheerleader for half a semester in the 8th grade, I quit because I got tired of the backstabbing, gossip, and groupthink. However, I just quit another group that was entirely different in background but entirely the same in a sick way........I don't know if the first experience had anything to do with my opinion of cheerleaders, but I am wary of them because of it.

I was a cheerleader for half a semester in the 8th grade, I quit because I got tired of the backstabbing, gossip, and groupthink. However, I just quit another group that was entirely different in background but entirely the same in a sick way........I don't know if the first experience had anything to do with my opinion of cheerleaders, but I am wary of them because of it.

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I was a cheerleader for half a semester in the 8th grade, I quit because I got tired of the backstabbing, gossip, and groupthink. However, I just quit another group that was entirely different in background but entirely the same in a sick way........I don't know if the first experience had anything to do with my opinion of cheerleaders, but I am wary of them because of it.

The backstabbing a gosip were probably more to do with the bold part than the fact that they were cheerleaders

The backstabbing a gosip were probably more to do with the bold part than the fact that they were cheerleaders

well, the more recent group was full of non eight graders, however the most vicious of the pack was the small clique of ex-cheerleaders.

well, the more recent group was full of non eight graders, however the most vicious of the pack was the small clique of ex-cheerleaders.

hmm...interesting. I'll go with standard idiocy for this one:)

I dunno...I've only had a problem with one cheerleader, and, given the number I've associated with, I doubt that was due to her being a cheerleader, and more to do with her being a total bitch.

Save the Cheerleader
Save the World
Yeah, baby! :D

*sighs* Thank you, Borat, for bringing racist / sexist / antisemitic crap up in the general teenage male populace of the 'States.

Inspired by that other thread.

And I mean the stereotypical ones. Who, sadly, are in fact the majority of cheerleaders.

By "stereotypical ones" I mean:


They think they're better than everyone else.


They only date football players because football players are the only people equal to them.


They never do anything kind because they're better than everyone else.


They always expect other people to do things for them because they're better than everyone else.


They never thank people who do things for them because they're better than everyone else.


They shamelessly wear incredibly short skirts (I KNOW that back in the ol' day cheerleader skirts were no where NEAR the length they are now) in an attempt to get the football players to like them, even if it is liking them only for their bodies.


They are almost always happy, no matter what is going on.


They pay no attention to anything outside of their own little social life, no matter how important it may be.


When, if ever, they are sad, they expect every single last person on campus to take notice and be sorry for her, no matter why she is sad.


If she breaks up with her football player boyfriend, she automatically goes to the rebound guy, who will most probably be another football player, without thinking a bit about her ex-boyfriend.


They expect every guy on campus to want them, and if a guy doesn't seem to want them, they have their jock boyfriends harrass them.


They expect every girl on campus to want to be like them, and if a girl doesn't seem to want to be like them, they themselves will harass them.


They pay no attention to the future of their lives, concerned only with improving their current situation.


They pay no attention to their education, even if it may help them get a job after they become too old to be a cheerleader.


They even expect teachers and staff to bow down to them, because they're even better than the teachers.


They never aplogize if they do something like actually accidentally spill milk on someone, because they're still better than everyone.


And a hell of a lot more.


so's your face

aww...who can stay mad with a face like that?

Just you wait untill I end up with the little goofballs in my class.;)

Don't be in such a hurry for torment and humiliation. :p

Don't be in such a hurry for torment and humiliation. :p

While I'm sure they will have the top training, I have no doubts that I'll be able to teach them a few things to do to dear ol' dad:)

so's your face
Owned. :D

Most of the cheerleaders I know seem like nice people. A few cheerleaders sit near me in physics class (which I got 100% in at progress reports-YAY!:) ), and they've always been nice to me.

Most of the cheerleaders I know seem like nice people. A few cheerleaders sit near me in physics class (which I got 100% in at progress reports -YAY!:) ), and they've always been nice to me.

I'd suggest offering to tutor them and maybe they might repay you. ;)

Most of the cheerleaders I know seem like nice people. A few cheerleaders sit near me in physics class (which I got 100% in at progress reports -YAY!:) ), and they've always been nice to me.

I'd suggest offering to tutor them and maybe they might repay you. ;)

I'd suggest offering to tutor them and maybe they might repay you. ;)

No.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTb-iBSSEIg

I love that song!

You hate us 'cuz we're beautiful,
well we don't like you either.
We're Cheerleaders!

Never met any myself though. Although a girl from my school went on to be a cheerleader for the Brisbane Broncos for a few months.

No.

I think I may have made an incorrect assumption here. Sorry about that.

I'm not whining about how they won't sleep with me. I'm whining about how they're complete and total douchebags and assholes.

Here's a thought.

Stop being an insufferably little prick and maybe people would be nicer to you.

in like the ones who kick their legs up reaaallllllyy high.

*rubs legs*














*not a perv*


















*no, honest! i'm just cold!*

They get shared around the Auckland Rugby Team too much...

Inspired by that other thread.

And I mean the stereotypical ones. Who, sadly, are in fact the majority of cheerleaders.

By "stereotypical ones" I mean:


They think they're better than everyone else.


They only date football players because football players are the only people equal to them.


They never do anything kind because they're better than everyone else.


They always expect other people to do things for them because they're better than everyone else.


They never thank people who do things for them because they're better than everyone else.


They shamelessly wear incredibly short skirts (I KNOW that back in the ol' day cheerleader skirts were no where NEAR the length they are now) in an attempt to get the football players to like them, even if it is liking them only for their bodies.


They are almost always happy, no matter what is going on.


They pay no attention to anything outside of their own little social life, no matter how important it may be.


When, if ever, they are sad, they expect every single last person on campus to take notice and be sorry for her, no matter why she is sad.


If she breaks up with her football player boyfriend, she automatically goes to the rebound guy, who will most probably be another football player, without thinking a bit about her ex-boyfriend.


They expect every guy on campus to want them, and if a guy doesn't seem to want them, they have their jock boyfriends harrass them.


They expect every girl on campus to want to be like them, and if a girl doesn't seem to want to be like them, they themselves will harass them.


They pay no attention to the future of their lives, concerned only with improving their current situation.


They pay no attention to their education, even if it may help them get a job after they become too old to be a cheerleader.


They even expect teachers and staff to bow down to them, because they're even better than the teachers.


They never aplogize if they do something like actually accidentally spill milk on someone, because they're still better than everyone.


And a hell of a lot more.


was'nt Bush a cheerleader?

I think I may have made an incorrect assumption here. Sorry about that.

You did. It's okay.

You did. It's okay.

So which assumption was wrong? Gender or sexual orientation?

Just gotta know so I don't do it again...

so's your face

anyone think this is a cheerleading troll

anyone think this is a cheerleading troll

:headbang:

You're supposed to respond "so's your mom! OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Noone gets anything 'round her'.

:headbang:

You're supposed to respond "so's your mom! OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Noone gets anything 'round her'.

sorry that my riposte was not up to standards....

will try harder in future

So which assumption was wrong? Gender or sexual orientation?

Just gotta know so I don't do it again...

Both. I'm female and asexual.

Both. I'm female and asexual.

OK. Thanks.

OK. Thanks.

All right.


Back on topic, a girl in my Latin class last year graduated and became a cheerleader for the Buccaneers. She was also nice to me, although we were never really friends.

anyone think this is a cheerleading troll

i know you are but what am i?:cool:

If I posted exactly what I think of (when I think of) Cheerleaders, I'd be DEAT'd immediately.

Inspired by that other thread.

And I mean the stereotypical ones. Who, sadly, are in fact the majority of cheerleaders.

And a hell of a lot more.


My wife was a cheerleader. She matches none of the charges of your little tirade.

I suspect someone is getting rejected by the cheerleader he fancies...

Inspired by that other thread.

And I mean the stereotypical ones. Who, sadly, are in fact the majority of cheerleaders.
I don't think about them. They really are of no relevance in real life.

i know you are but what am i?:cool:

a cheerleading troll?

a cheerleading troll?

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This thread shall rise

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N00b necromancer, only a two day old thread. It isn't even dead, just using a walker.

I read through all bloody 16 pages of this and have reached a conclusion:

Everyone here is a bloody wanker, including the OP.

Everyone of you needs to realise that just because someone has fucking social issues, it does not make him/her sexually repressed.

If he says he's asexual, then he probably is.

I could very well do the same thing he does in the OP and go on a tirade. Not because I'm sexually repressed, but because I hate people in general and find most of them to be inconsiderate assholes.

Honestly, being anti-social, does not mean shit when it comes to one's sexuality.

I have the same bitter feelings about a lot of the 'popular' kids I knew in school only because I was bullied over something I had no control.

And New Naliitr, seriously guy? You seem to be forgetting that there are male cheerleaders. Include them in your rant please.

Also, you seem like you're very anti-social? Want to be my friend? I like people who are as equally jaded as me because people are assholes who make general assumptions about your sexuality without knowing jack about you.

Now, if you don't mind, I'm going to go make a sMouldering crater out of one of my puppets and go lie in it for a while and cool down, since I think the mods won't like this post one bit.

Yes, I'm anti-social, and yes, I don't find New Naliitr's post irrational because it's possible that his tirade stems from possibly being treated like a social pariah.

*goes off to her smouldering crater*

And anyone who wants to come is welcome!

And New Naliitr, seriously guy? You seem to be forgetting that there are male cheerleaders. Include them in your rant please.




don't worry already mentioned bush

don't worry already mentioned bush
I know you guys did, I'm asking if he remembers that.

Inspired by that other thread.

And I mean the stereotypical ones. Who, sadly, are in fact the majority of cheerleaders.

By "stereotypical ones" I mean:


They think they're better than everyone else.


They only date football players because football players are the only people equal to them.


They never do anything kind because they're better than everyone else.


They always expect other people to do things for them because they're better than everyone else.


They never thank people who do things for them because they're better than everyone else.


They shamelessly wear incredibly short skirts (I KNOW that back in the ol' day cheerleader skirts were no where NEAR the length they are now) in an attempt to get the football players to like them, even if it is liking them only for their bodies.


They are almost always happy, no matter what is going on.


They pay no attention to anything outside of their own little social life, no matter how important it may be.


When, if ever, they are sad, they expect every single last person on campus to take notice and be sorry for her, no matter why she is sad.


If she breaks up with her football player boyfriend, she automatically goes to the rebound guy, who will most probably be another football player, without thinking a bit about her ex-boyfriend.


They expect every guy on campus to want them, and if a guy doesn't seem to want them, they have their jock boyfriends harrass them.


They expect every girl on campus to want to be like them, and if a girl doesn't seem to want to be like them, they themselves will harass them.


They pay no attention to the future of their lives, concerned only with improving their current situation.


They pay no attention to their education, even if it may help them get a job after they become too old to be a cheerleader.


They even expect teachers and staff to bow down to them, because they're even better than the teachers.


They never aplogize if they do something like actually accidentally spill milk on someone, because they're still better than everyone.


And a hell of a lot more.


They're actually usually quite nice people. And hot.

It's not about women. It's about women supremacy. There should be equality on this planet. I don't want women dominating men, just as much as I don't want men dominating women.

Also: For those of you whose schools don't have cheerleaders, you're lucky. Mine is god damned full of them. You're lucky you've never interacted with them, let alone seen them.

I never had any issues with them personaly .. though I hardly see a bunch of people with stuck up attitudes as an example of woman supremacy, if you view all that highschool drama bs as such you may want to re evaluate your prospective on life

I read through all bloody 16 pages of this and have reached a conclusion:

Everyone here is a bloody wanker, including the OP.

Everyone of you needs to realise that just because someone has fucking social issues, it does not make him/her sexually repressed.

If he says he's asexual, then he probably is.

I could very well do the same thing he does in the OP and go on a tirade. Not because I'm sexually repressed, but because I hate people in general and find most of them to be inconsiderate assholes.

Honestly, being anti-social, does not mean shit when it comes to one's sexuality.

I have the same bitter feelings about a lot of the 'popular' kids I knew in school only because I was bullied over something I had no control.

And New Naliitr, seriously guy? You seem to be forgetting that there are male cheerleaders. Include them in your rant please.

Also, you seem like you're very anti-social? Want to be my friend? I like people who are as equally jaded as me because people are assholes who make general assumptions about your sexuality without knowing jack about you.

Now, if you don't mind, I'm going to go make a sMouldering crater out of one of my puppets and go lie in it for a while and cool down, since I think the mods won't like this post one bit.

Yes, I'm anti-social, and yes, I don't find New Naliitr's post irrational because it's possible that his tirade stems from possibly being treated like a social pariah.

*goes off to her smouldering crater*

And anyone who wants to come is welcome!
So let me get this straight...because someone treated him like shit, it is okay for him to treat others like shit?

No, sorry. Be pissed at the person who did it to you, not everyone who is at all similar to that person. As I said, make friends and enemies with people, not groups.

So let me get this straight...because someone treated him like shit, it is okay for him to treat others like shit?

No, sorry. Be pissed at the person who did it to you, not everyone who is at all similar to that person. As I said, make friends and enemies with people, not groups.
I'm saying, if he wanted to be jaded, let him be anti-social.

If he wants to be pissed, that's his business.

I'm saying, if he wanted to be jaded, let him be anti-social.

If he wants to be pissed, that's his business.

well, he brought it to us for our opinions, and he got them.

He says that they are bitches etc. for treating him like crap and not giving him the time of day, and then proceeds to do the same. It is hypocricy, and brings him to the level that he accuses them of being at.

Anti-social is fine. Jaded is fine. Neither are justification for treating somebody poorly (such as refering to them or implying that they are stupid, slutty, and bitches) because of an activity they enjoy. Especially if he knows what it is like to be treated like shit because of what someone THINKS you are like (such as assuming a persons sexuality based off of a rant)

Inspired by that other thread.


They never aplogize if they do something like actually accidentally spill milk on someone, because they're still better than everyone.



A-ha! The impetus for this thread! :D

Anti-social is fine. Jaded is fine. Neither are justification for treating somebody poorly

Agreed. It is far better to strive to be a better person than waste your time belittling others.

Agreed. It is far better to strive to be a better person than waste your time belittling others.
Meh. I prefer to belittle them, fail that, seeing them piddle around lost in my smouldering crater.

Hehe :D It's fun yes, and I've done it on plenty times. But lately, the time lost just isn't worth it IMO.