NationStates Jolt Archive

if Satan doesn't have freewill then isn't God just evil for making him do stuff and isn't God really sending us to hell for fun?

Agreed.

Though come to think of it is god not fairly bad making people go to hell to be punished for an eternity because the story told by some does not seem naturally plausible to some of us?


For some reason an infinite punishment without reprieve for a mistake by a mortal and fallible human does not seem the mark of someone I would call all loving

The Devil knows he is gonna lose, and he doesnt have plan B so to speak, because he doesnt have free will. Lucifer, is an angel. God created him with the purpose of being the ultimate evil. Lucifer knows he cant win, so his "plan b" is to take everyone he can down with him.
So God intentionally created the "ultimate evil," and intentionally made said evil capable of dragging humans down with him into damnation...and then God gets mad when humans are deceived and dragged down by the Evil that God specifically designed to do precisely that?

If God created the ultimate Evil, shouldn't we be pretty fucking pissed off at him? Shit, I still haven't forgiven Yanni for creating his alarming brand of New-Age contemporary classical instrumentals. If God made Evil then that means He is actually responsible for Yanni AND the Spice Girls. That's so totally not cool.

The second theory is generally held by Calvinists who say that because Satan is so intelligent, he obviously knows about election and is continuing simply to spite God. He doesn't know who is chosen and who isn't, so he will try to turn everyone away, knowing there are some that he will not be able to. The others he just keeps in their rebellion and tempts Christians to spite God, because he hates Him so much (he is utterly depraved, he cannot be more evil than he is). I favor this theory.

This theory has a fundemental flaw. Gods Grace isnt on a few chosen, its available for everyone. The "Chosen" is disproved by John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son so that ALL who believe in him may not perish but have eternal life."

This theory has a fundemental flaw. Gods Grace isnt on a few chosen, its available for everyone. The "Chosen" is disproved by John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son so that ALL who believe in him may not perish but have eternal life."

Easy way around that:
Just say every "non-chosen" doesn't truly believe in him.
And some translations say "those" who believe in him, disproving your idea even more.

EDIT: I just noticed your sig, and it sounds more Taoist or Buddhist then it does Christian. Mind explaining that?