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“We’re here. We’re queer. Get used to it!!”

Get used to what??? You’re gay. Good for you! Now just tell me, what does it have to do with me??? I don’t care if someone is gay. I’m glad for your lifestyle but I don’t care!

I could have a straight pride parade. That way everyone can know my sexual orintation, and I can force them to acknowledge it even though it has abousulutly nothing to do with them.

I DO NOT HATE GAYS, I just think that society has gone way too far. It does not matter what sexual orientation you are, as long as you keap it inside you, no one has to know.

I say we ban the gay pride parade, and any other event dealing with sexual orintations in public. Weddings are okay because there private.

THINK ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID!!!!!! I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!!!!

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“We’re here. We’re queer. Get used to it!!”

Get used to what??? You’re gay. Good for you! Now just tell me, what does it have to do with me??? I don’t care if someone is gay. I’m glad for your lifestyle but I don’t care!

I could have a straight pride parade. That way everyone can know my sexual orintation, and I can force them to acknowledge it even though it has abousulutly nothing to do with them.

I DO NOT HATE GAYS, I just think that society has gone way too far. It does not matter what sexual orientation you are, as long as you keap it inside you, no one has to know.

I say we ban the gay pride parade, and any other event dealing with sexual orintations in public. Weddings are okay because there private.

THINK ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID!!!!!! I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!!!!

What's your point? If you want to have a straight pride parade, knock yourself out; nobody is stopping you. I think the vast majority of parades suck ass, that doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to have them.

Is it really that big of a deal? If they go ahead and get the proper permits and crap I don't care if the fucking KKK has a parade, much less the homos.

“We’re here. We’re queer. Get used to it!!”

Get used to what??? You’re gay. Good for you! Now just tell me, what does it have to do with me??? I don’t care if someone is gay. I’m glad for your lifestyle but I don’t care!

(a) Being gay is not a lifestyle. It is a trait.
(b) If you don't care, why are you bitching?

I could have a straight pride parade. That way everyone can know my sexual orintation, and I can force them to acknowledge it even though it has abousulutly nothing to do with them.

(a) How does a gay pride parade force you to acknowledge anything?
(b) The purpose of a gay pride parade is not to tell people your sexual orientation, but to point out that there is nothing wrong with your sexual orientation - that no one need be ashamed simply because of their sexual orientation. Thus, you could certainly have a "straight pride parade" if you really wanted to, but what would be the point? Are there elements of society suggesting that you should be ashamed of being straight? That you should be discriminated against because you are straight?

I DO NOT HATE GAYS, I just think that society has gone way too far. It does not matter what sexual orientation you are, as long as you keap it inside you, no one has to know.

Does that mean that you never, ever, ever express your sexuality at all? You don't attempt to find a date, ever? You never express affection towards someone you are dating?

I say we ban the gay pride parade, and any other event dealing with sexual orintations in public. Weddings are okay because there private.

To hell with freedom of speech, eh?

Does that mean that we can't have sex-ed classes in school? Those deal with sexual orientation, unless they aren't very comprehensive. Does that mean that we can't have Safe Space programs? What about people who propose to their SO's on national TV or at public gatherings? What about those who hold hands/hug/kiss in public?

You’re gay. Good for you! Now just tell me, what does it have to do with me???

What do gay pride marches have to do with you? If you're not gay, and you say you don't mind us, what's wrong with us having a march now and again? You're not required to stay and watch.

should we ban every parade that you have no interest in?

What's your point? If you want to have a straight pride parade, knock yourself out; nobody is stopping you. I think the vast majority of parades suck ass, that doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to have them.
Yeah. There's nothing more boring than a parade. They do suck ass gas.

Article 1

(1) All citizens shall be guaranteed the following in their relations with the public administration:
1) freedom of expression: the freedom to communicate information and to express ideas, opinions and emotions, whether orally, in writing, in pictorial representations, or in any other way;
2) freedom of information: the freedom to obtain and receive information and otherwise acquaint oneself with the utterances of others;
3) freedom of assembly: the freedom to organize or attend any meeting for information purposes or for the expression of opinions or for any other similar purpose or for the purpose of presenting artistic work;
4) freedom to demonstrate: the freedom to organize or take part in any demonstration in a public place;
5) freedom of association: the freedom to unite with others for public or private purposes; and
6) freedom of worship: the freedom to practice one's own religion either alone or in company with others.

Umm, so no, we won't be banning Gay Pride parades any time soon.

Know what came to my mind straight away when I read the first line?
'We're here! We're queer! We don't want any more bears!'

Other than that joke this thread is pointless. If you don't like knowing that people are gay you can just stay away from gay pride parades. Try living under a rock too.

It should be banned, though. All parades should. They suck and all they do is tie up traffic so that people who actually have something better to do than watch a stupid parade can't get to where they need to be. :mad:

A parade is a parade.. wanna ban the Macy's parade too?

It should be banned, though. All parades should. They suck and all they do is tie up traffic so that people who actually have something better to do than watch a stupid parade can't get to where they need to be. :mad:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

We should replace all parades with an Ifreann is our God parade.

A parade is a parade.. wanna ban the Macy's parade too?
There should actually be a holliday called Macy's day just because that phrase has come into popular use. We could all exchange gifts bought at macy's and sing shopping carols.

A parade is a parade.. wanna ban the Macy's parade too?
Please?? Pretty please??




Kidding... Don't go banning parades, that's just silly to do in a functioning democracy.

There should actually be a holliday called Macy's day just because that phrase has come into popular use. We could all exchange gifts bought at macy's and sing shopping carols.
I like this idea!

*calls Bushy*

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Then all parades should be held on the boardwalk at the beach. Or they shoudl be held at 1 AM.

Kidding... Don't go banning parades, that's just silly to do in a functioning democracy.
Hmm, politics + parade / (in same post) = interesting..

Does that mean that you never, ever, ever express your sexuality at all? You don't attempt to find a date, ever? You never express affection towards someone you are dating?

Okay everyone stop, if you had read what I had said at the start, it was that i have nothing against gays in private (such as dating) but when it comes to express affection towards someone in public is wrong (like dating of feeling).

I would never kiss with my girlfriend in public. WHY? because thats none of the publics busines to see that happening.

Okay everyone stop, if you had read what I had said at the start, it was that i have nothing against gays in private (such as dating) but when it comes to express affection towards someone in public is wrong (like dating of feeling).

I would never kiss with my girlfriend in public. WHY? because thats none of the publics busines to see that happening.
But what if we enjoy watching?

Then all parades should be held on the boardwalk at the beach. Or they shoudl be held at 1 AM.
They did, it's called Atlantic City Miss America.. tho that's gone now..

Do tram cars count?

I could have a straight pride parade.

Then organize one - and if they refuse to grant you a license, take them to court for discriminating against you because of your sexual orientation.

Then all parades should be held on the boardwalk at the beach. Or they shoudl be held at 1 AM.

"or abridging"

But what if we enjoy watching?
Kinky!

Get over it. They finally don't have to be ashamed of who they are, and fear going to jail about it (Texas, fuck you)

Okay everyone stop, if you had read what I had said at the start, it was that i have nothing against gays in private (such as dating) but when it comes to express affection towards someone in public is wrong (like dating of feeling).

I would never kiss with my girlfriend in public. WHY? because thats none of the publics busines to see that happening.
Ohhh..... MAAANNNNN!!!!!!
Why don't you just ban fun all together! :mad:

What's wrong with kissing in public? :confused: I don't slober on my significant other in front of everyone, but we kiss in public sometimes. :( What's wrong with that?

(Texas, fuck you)

Seeing as only Steers and Queers come from Texas, I think they'd like that.

Okay everyone stop, if you had read what I had said at the start, it was that i have nothing against gays in private (such as dating) but when it comes to express affection towards someone in public is wrong (like dating of feeling).

I would never kiss with my girlfriend in public. WHY? because thats none of the publics busines to see that happening.

Banning public displays of affection is the most useless thing for a government to do. We have bigger fish to fry.

Get over it. They finally don't have to be ashamed of who they are, and fear going to jail about it (Texas, fuck you)

Thats like saying nazis have the right to excersise there opions in public, withourt worrying about going to jail... AND TEXAS' KICKASS

I would never kiss with my girlfriend in public. WHY? because thats none of the publics busines to see that happening.Do you hold hands with her, or make comments in public to your friends about which women you find attractive, or make comments to those women?

Thats like saying nazis have the right to excersise there opions in public, withourt worrying about going to jailThey do have the right to do so without worrying about going to jail.

Thats like saying nazis have the right to excersise there opions in public, withourt worrying about going to jail... AND TEXAS' KICKASS
Godwin's Law.

And there's a big difference between consensual sex and genocide.

Thats like saying nazis have the right to excersise there opions in public, withourt worrying about going to jail... AND TEXAS' KICKASS

Nazi's do have the right. The US is still a democracy, I believe, despite Bush's attempts to make it otherwise. Also, Texas does not kick ass if it suppresses homosexual rights.

Thats like saying nazis have the right to excersise there opions in public, withourt worrying about going to jail... AND TEXAS' KICKASS
They do have that right. Nazis and KKK members often apply for permits to hold rallys and parades in public. When issued permits they get together on city streets, display their stupidity, then go home.

Usually people who have a problem with sexuality and the expression of such are the ones with the most hang ups. Perhaps these parades send thoughts of doubt about your sexuality through your mind? Maybe you should join in...:rolleyes: Intolerant fuckwad.:upyours:

Thats like saying nazis have the right to excersise there opions in public, withourt worrying about going to jail... AND TEXAS' KICKASS
They do, you moron. They enjoy the same freedom of speech as everybody else.

I'm certainly glad you don't run the government.:upyours:

Do you hold hands with her, or make comments in public to your friends about which women you find attractive, or make comments to those women?That's all completely inappropriate. If you want to let a woman know you find her attractive you do not need to hassle her like that. Just wiggle your penis at her. That way, she'll know what you mean and you won't be bothering the public.

They do have the right to do so without worrying about going to jail.
Yeah, I was going to say.

Then organize one - and if they refuse to grant you a license, take them to court for discriminating against you because of your sexual orientation.
Agreed, ever think that the reason that there are no 'straight pride parades' is because no one bothers to organize them?

I am straight, and the gay pride parades do nothing for me, but neither does it hurt me, so why should I care if they hold them? As long as they go through the proper process of obtaining the license to hold the parades I would be more concerned if we did ban them because it would infringe on their rights.

Okay everyone stop, if you had read what I had said at the start, it was that i have nothing against gays in private (such as dating) but when it comes to express affection towards someone in public is wrong (like dating of feeling). .

So, its ok for gays to be gay, just as long as you don't have to see it?:confused: What is the difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals holding hands for example? Expressing your effection in public (kissing, holding hands, a hug) and making out, heavy petting and outright sex are totally different.

I would never kiss with my girlfriend in public. WHY? because thats none of the publics busines to see that happening.

If its no ones business, why do you care? :rolleyes:

They do, you moron. They enjoy the same freedom of speech as everybody else.

I'm certainly glad you don't run the government.:upyours:

A bit us-centric, arent we? ;)
I would miss the CSD parade, its lots of fun.

tad egocentric? An expression of pride in being gay has something to do with YOU? Don't like it, don't go.

Ban the function of free expression? never.

i really do give a dam if you are gay or not just do tell people that you are gay and proud of it just keep it to your self that is way we have those parades owns and while

i really don't give a dam if you are gay or not just do tell people that you are gay and proud of it just keep it to your self that is way we have those parades owns and while

They do, you moron. They enjoy the same freedom of speech as everybody else.

I'm certainly glad you don't run the government.:upyours:

okay, you live in the states, i dont!!! In my country it is illegal to say racist comments, so dont asume everyone on the internet is from the states, just because they like Texas.

...and how do you know i dont run the government where i come from??? which i dont, but you definitly should not make outcomes based on abousulutly SHIT

okay, you live in the states, i dont!!! In my country it is illegal to say racist comments, so dont asume everyone on the internet is from the states, just because they like Texas.

...and how do you know i dont run the government where i come from??? which i dont, but you definitly should not make outcomes based on abousulutly SHIT

We will when you stop making daft comments. Deal?

We will when you stop making daft comments. Deal?

no

no

Then we shall continue to mock you and do the other stuff you said.


For instance: Nazis do have the right to protest, just as homosexuals do.

I say we ban the gay pride parade, and any other event dealing with sexual orintations in public. Weddings are okay because there private.

Every single time I'm in the mall and I walk by a group of 14 year old kids paired of, male and female, holding hands, that's a fucking straight pride parade. The only time I've ever seen a gay couple expressing such a daring emotion, while I was getting onto a roller coaster, three or four grown men were throwing cotton candy at them. Now, if you want to go ahead and ban PDA in public, by all means. I'll support that. But think about how much more freedom of opinion a straight couple has to show such affections publicly, and you might realize why it's so important for gays to have one day a year where they can show who they are without fear.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

I don't know. I might be in favor of banning parades if it meant I didn't have to suffer through the goddamned Little League parade or the Veterans parades.

okay, you live in the states, i dont!!! In my country it is illegal to say racist comments, so dont asume everyone on the internet is from the states, just because they like Texas.
No, its not. Its illegal to incite hatred. There is a difference.
...and how do you know i dont run the government where i come from??? which i dont, but you definitly should not make outcomes based on abousulutly SHIT
Its the word tory that does it, it makes you an out-of-power Brit.

YEAH!! NO MORE GAY PRIDE PARADE!

And while we are at it no more Saint Patrick's Day parade. I don't like the Irish and the color green makes me want to puke when I am drinking that much.

While we are at it let's get rid of the Christmas parades. Those people inflicting their religion on the rest of us in public is just sickening. I mean you don't see any Hindu, Jewish, Muslim parades (do you?).

And how about Thanksgiving parades! The glorification of eating turkeys. What about the vegetarians?!?

Founders Day parades---> White Elitist Jerks

:) :) :) :) :) :)

Did I miss any?

My point, of course, is that free speech can not be worried about who might be offended.

ooc: Brighton pcs are allowed to follow the parade in uniforms and not do their job. That is a little screwed. You're either on duty or off.

I rather see the Eurovision Song Contest banned, that gay pride parades. While the music of the first sucks, at the second event it goes all night loooong...

Okay everyone stop, if you had read what I had said at the start, it was that i have nothing against gays in private (such as dating) but when it comes to express affection towards someone in public is wrong (like dating of feeling).

So what if I don't like to have the fact that you speak Spanish (hypothetical!) shoved in my face? What if I think being from a certain country or being an immigrant is something you should reference or celebrate in private? Should you be banned from speaking anything but English in public?

Why should anyone not refer to or display an opinion or trait of theirs in public, not show affection to their SO, etc. etc. merely because it makes you uncomfortable? As much of a shock as it may be, the world does not revolve around you. The fact that you don't like PDAs or don't care about gays isn't what public policy is based on. Or were you wondering why Congress hadn't called yet to ask you what your opinions were so they could enshrine them in law?

If I want to kiss my boyfriend (unfortunately also hypothetical :( ) I'll damn well do it wherever I am and fuck the delicate sensibilities of random pedestrians. It's a free country. Why should my ability to show affection for a significant other, express an opinion, or celebrate something be contingent upon whether it fits into your set of sociopolitical interests or whether it makes you uncomfortable? Deal with it. Your opinions are pwned by my freedoms.

I would never kiss with my girlfriend in public. WHY? because thats none of the publics busines to see that happening.

So get back in your time machine and hit the RETURN button to go back to the Middle Ages when everyone agreed with you. Meanwhile, the rest of us who aren't required to adhere to the standard of public behavior you set for yourself will enjoy these newfangled "individual liberties" and "sexual openness".

Ok, let's ban the gay pride parade. And while we're at it, let's ban political parades, veteran parades, school parades, sport parades, and every other type of parade out there. Hell, why not go a step further and ban elections? Let's ban everything: video games, books, televisions, phones, computers, and school. Let's ban everyone's rights, so that it is fair.

If you are so offended by anything, then don't look at it. That usually makes it easier to deal with. :)

My point, of course, is that free speech can not be worried about who might be offended.

I think free speech should be treated like a toy around four year olds. The first group to complain that another group's free speech offends their sensibilities gets their free speech taken away. If you're not mature enough to handle other people getting free speech too, then you can't have it yourself.

I say we ban the gay pride parade, and any other event dealing with sexual orintations in public. Weddings are okay because there private.

OOC: Really? Weddings are about sexual orientation? I thought they were about love, committment, caring for one another, etc. Guess I'm too traditional.:rolleyes:

I think free speech should be treated like a toy around four year olds. The first group to complain that another group's free speech offends their sensibilities gets their free speech taken away. If you're not mature enough to handle other people getting free speech too, then you can't have it yourself.

Hey, good idea.

Its the word tory that does it, it makes you an out-of-power Brit.

Do Tory's just come from the uk? FUCK NO, you peace of shit, i dont come from the uk. I am a tory, but that does not mean i live in the uk. Okay i am preaty sure, just preaty sure that tories come from other parts of the world.

ooc: Brighton pcs are allowed to follow the parade in uniforms and not do their job. That is a little screwed. You're either on duty or off.
OoC: To be fair, their are plenty of things one could have reasonable reason to wear a uniform for and not be on duty. Weddings spring to mind. In WWII and after, British servicemen were required to wear uniform on leave unless they were granted special dispensation!

Do Tory's just come from the uk? FUCK NO, you peace of shit, i dont come from the uk. I am a tory, but that does not mean i live in the uk. Okay i am preaty sure, just preaty sure that tories come from other parts of the world.

Less than 10 posts and you've already resorted to flaming. Bravo, sir.

Do Tory's just come from the uk? FUCK NO, you peace of shit, i dont come from the uk. I am a tory, but that does not mean i live in the uk. Okay i am preaty sure, just preaty sure that tories come from other parts of the world.

That comment may get you a warning. You better be careful.

I don't care if they have a parade, just as long as i don't see it, hear it, listen to people talking about it. its there lifestyle let them do what they want. God will be the judge. Just don't let it affect me.

Do Tory's just come from the uk? FUCK NO, you peace of shit, i dont come from the uk. I am a tory, but that does not mean i live in the uk. Okay i am preaty sure, just preaty sure that tories come from other parts of the world.
Tory refers to either a political party in the United Kingdom, or colonists who supported the British during the American Revolution.

Do Tory's just come from the uk? FUCK NO, you peace of shit, i dont come from the uk. I am a tory, but that does not mean i live in the uk. Okay i am preaty sure, just preaty sure that tories come from other parts of the world.


if we have peace i hope it isnt shit. im PREATY sure of that

So, its ok for gays to be gay, just as long as you don't have to see it?:confused: What is the difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals holding hands for example?

Because it makes him feel all ooky, like the worms coming out the eyeholes of a skull.

Expressing your effection in public (kissing, holding hands, a hug) and making out, heavy petting and outright sex are totally different.

Courtesy is contagious <achoo!>, respect yourself (& your partner) and don't play a game of tonsil hockey, or have an osculatory marathon in public. It only makes your undershorts and/or panties all sticky...and we all know what that leads to...PDA!!! ;)

If its no ones business, why do you care? :rolleyes:

Because he obligated to poke his nose in everyone's business at least once a day, it's in his contract.

I don't care if they have a parade, just as long as i don't see it, hear it, listen to people talking about it. its there lifestyle let them do what they want. God will be the judge. Just don't let it affect me.

right, but how are you going to stop your children from seeing it, and accepting it as normol

Tory refers to either a political party in the United Kingdom, or colonists who supported the British during the American Revolution.

very good, very good. Hey everyone look

very good, very good. Hey everyone look
And yet you previously stated that you aren't from either the United States or the United Kingdom.

very good, very good. Hey everyone look

No, thanks. I'd rather not. :p

right, but how are you going to stop your children from seeing it, and accepting it as normol

Fuck his children. They don't have any right to not have their wee little sensibilities shattered. If it's so important to him that his kids don't see it, and they do, then he's just failed as a parent.

Do Tory's just come from the uk? FUCK NO, you peace of shit, i dont come from the uk. I am a tory, but that does not mean i live in the uk. Okay i am preaty sure, just preaty sure that tories come from other parts of the world.


Hilarious!

I'm going to guess you come from elementary school somewhere because you don't know how to spell "piece" or "pretty." I love it when 8 year-olds have strongly held political positions.

right, but how are you going to stop your children from seeing it, and accepting it as normol
What's wrong with accepting what is normal as normal?

right, but how are you going to stop your children from seeing it, and accepting it as normol

I wouldn't stop them. It is normal.

okay, you live in the states, i dont!!! In my country it is illegal to say racist comments, so dont asume everyone on the internet is from the states, just because they like Texas.

...and how do you know i dont run the government where i come from??? which i dont, but you definitly should not make outcomes based on abousulutly SHIT
*stops self from being a grammar nazi*

Oh fukit.

Okay, you live in the states, I don't. In my country it is illegal to make racist racist comments, so please don't assume* that everyone on NSG is from USA also. And don't judge me because I like that rathole Texas.

Also, how do you know I'm not working for the government in my country? Even though I don't, if I did.. I would make it worse with my bad grammar and stupid ideas.

1. Do you live in soviet Russia? :D
2. Bugger off :D

What's wrong with accepting what is normal as normal?
What is normal, for that matter? (I think we are in agreement, though)

right, but how are you going to stop your children from seeing it, and accepting it as normol

It is normal...

And yet you previously stated that you aren't from either the United States or the United Kingdom.

No i am from Canada, and there is a tory party in canada too, and im a member of it, so i would know.

...And on top of that, my ancesters were tory's during the americian revolution

What is normal, for that matter? (I think we are in agreement, though)

Normal is whatever is normal for you. It may not be normal for someone else, but it is normal regardless.

So, technically, everything can be classified as normal. :D

No i am from Canada, and there is a tory party in canada too, and im a member of it, so i would know.

...And on top of that, my ancesters were tory's during the americian revolution
Its called the Conservative Party in Canada unless I see evidence otherwise, Tory being I believe an irish insult.

i agree.
i don't care if you are gay or not, and i don't want to know.
go ahead, get married, adopt a kid, just don't have some riot on the streets telling everyone how you got f*cked up the ass last nice by your bf.
That's something you keep to yourself.

Heterosexuals don't do it, so why should you.

Its called the Conservative Party in Canada unless I see evidence otherwise, Tory being I believe an irish insult.

No, I've heard the phrase "Tories" being used on television during election time. There is a Tory party, apparently. :confused:

No, I've heard the phrase "Tories" being used on television during election time. There is a Tory party, apparently. :confused:
As well as a Conservative party? Your politics are even wierder than ours...

Thallior, its because unlike straight people we aren't accepted... look at some of the posts in this very thread for your evidence of that.

And look whose extensive debunking post gets completely ignored by Mr. Center of the Universe. Argue or concede, but don't fucking ignore me. I HATE it when people won't counterargue (a) point(s).

Hilarious!

I'm going to guess you come from elementary school somewhere because you don't know how to spell "piece" or "pretty." I love it when 8 year-olds have strongly held political positions.

you must love insulting me for having dyslexia, and you think that it is okay to bash someone who suffers from it???

IRONY

i agree.
i don't care if you are gay or not, and i don't want to know.
go ahead, get married, adopt a kid, just don't have some riot on the streets telling everyone how you got f*cked up the ass last nice by your bf.
That's something you keep to yourself.

Heterosexuals don't do it, so why should you.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh man, that's priceless. Wait, you're serious?

HAHAHAHA....

Its called the Conservative Party in Canada unless I see evidence otherwise, Tory being I believe an irish insult.

hahahahaha, i am not part of the conservitive party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS!!!!

i agree.
i don't care if you are gay or not, and i don't want to know.
go ahead, get married, adopt a kid, just don't have some riot on the streets telling everyone how you got f*cked up the ass last nice by your bf.
That's something you keep to yourself.

Heterosexuals don't do it, so why should you.

This type of comment is pathetically transparent.

Parades are "riots" when you don't like the people holding them?
Have you ever been told by a gay that he had anal intercourse the night before? Or is that just a paranoia you harbor because of your own self-doubt?

As well as a Conservative party? Your politics are even wierder than ours....

The exact reason why I don't bother to watch them. :D

And look whose extensive debunking post gets completely ignored by Mr. Center of the Universe. Argue or concede, but don't fucking ignore me. I HATE it when people won't counterargue (a) point(s).

It seems RTS is immune to logic, cohesiveness, grammar, and spelling. I doubt any attempts to appeal to intellect will work either, as nothing he has written seems to indicate one. My suggestion is to let this thread die and ignore his posts.

hahahahaha, i am not part of the conservitive party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS!!!!

Homosexuality is completely normal and should be seen in public.

i agree.
i don't care if you are gay or not, and i don't want to know.
go ahead, get married, adopt a kid, just don't have some riot on the streets telling everyone how you got f*cked up the ass last nice by your bf.
That's something you keep to yourself.

Heterosexuals don't do it, so why should you.
Hehehe n00b

Homosexuality is completely normal and should be seen in public.

Mmm. I agree. :fluffle:

Homosexuality is completely normal and should be seen in public.
Should be? Dunno. Should be allowed to be? Hell yes!:fluffle:

By all means, make a straight pride parade. I'll join it :D

By all means, make a straight pride parade. I'll join it :D

I'll watch it. :D

And I'll laugh at its pointlessness... you already have all the rights...

you must love insulting me for having dyslexia, and you think that it is okay to bash someone who suffers from it???

IRONY


Either you haven't even made it to 3rd grade or you have the worst case of dyslexia ever discovered--there's nothing ironic about anything in this exchange.


And I do think it's OK.

you must love insulting me for having dyslexia, and you think that it is okay to bash someone who suffers from it???

IRONY
DYSLEXIA DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY.

Nor, for that matter, does irony.

And I'll laugh at its pointlessness... you already have all the rights...
As do gay people depending on which country you look at.

As do gay people depending on ehich country you look at.
Not... really. One of the rights is acceptance by the community as a whole including religious institutions. Which country has that with gay marriage etc?

Alright, a more full blown explaination because I'm sure you aren't convinced that this is the best approach.

Parades, like anything else, are a display - a statement, a unique form of activism. Other forms of activism include protests/rallies, strikes/lockouts/"work to rule", and various petitioning campaigns from mass letter writing to going door-to-door to get signatures for a petition. Like all others, parades have their advantages and disadvantages. Admittedly, traditionally parades were not used for things such as promoting awareness of a lifestyle as they were about just promoting a lifestyle - specifically, a one of pride (nation, state or civic pride). Alas, the Gay Pride parade has evolved that for a different cause - something I honestly don't think is a major issue.

To say the parades shouldn't be allowed to happen is, in my mind, akin to censorship. No one should be banned from letting their voices be heard. Heck, I think neo-Nazi's should be allowed to be heard (even though I know many disagree with me).

If you disagree with their message, don't listen to them. You've already made up your mind on it. If you think their message should be fought against, organize your own counter-campaign. Be an activist for your own position. They're following the laws to create this event - why should they be banned for that?

Not... really. One of the rights is acceptance by the community as a whole including religious institutions. Which country has that with gay marriage etc?
Sweden.

I agree with the first guy who wrote in. (Red Tory States maybe?) Just keep it inside the bedroom. I dont care if you have a parade that does not revolve around flaunting your preferences. Maybe we should replace all the Gay rallies and parades with patriotic parades and rallies to counter the rights for illeagal citizens and we hate the government groups. Just an idea.

Not... really. One of the rights is acceptance by the community as a whole including religious institutions. Which country has that with gay marriage etc?

whoa whoa whoa, my church does not support gay marriage, but we are forced to do it by the law, because its considered anti-gay if you refuse to perfore the marriage. And the majority of canadians do NOT support gay marriage, the only reason we have it is because, really stupid elected a really stupid liberal government.

Okay everyone stop, if you had read what I had said at the start, it was that i have nothing against gays in private (such as dating) but when it comes to express affection towards someone in public is wrong (like dating of feeling).

I would never kiss with my girlfriend in public. WHY? because thats none of the publics busines to see that happening.

To say that you wouldn't do something doesn't make it true for everyone. Oh, and having a parade in public is in no way similar to kissing one's significant other in public.

whoa whoa whoa, my church does not support gay marriage, but we are forced to do it by the law, because its considered anti-gay if you refuse to perfore the marriage. And the majority of canadians do NOT support gay marriage, the only reason we have it is because, really stupid elected a really stupid liberal government.

Or, you know, people aren't bigoted homophobes who think homosexuality is wrong.

Not... really. One of the rights is acceptance by the community as a whole including religious institutions. Which country has that with gay marriage etc?

I'm with you that there should be much greater acceptance of homosexuality. However, there is not a "right" to religious acceptance. That would be like claiming there is a right to have people like Red Tory States like you. Frankly, I wouldn't even accept that "right." But the fact is that "rights" language is grossly overused.

whoa whoa whoa, my church does not support gay marriage, but we are forced to do it by the law, because its considered anti-gay if you refuse to perfore the marriage. And the majority of canadians do NOT support gay marriage, the only reason we have it is because, really stupid elected a really stupid liberal government.

Sucks live in a democracy, huh?

I agree with the first guy who wrote in. (Red Tory States maybe?) Just keep it inside the bedroom. I dont care if you have a parade that does not revolve around flaunting your preferences. Maybe we should replace all the Gay rallies and parades with patriotic parades and rallies to counter the rights for illeagal citizens and we hate the government groups. Just an idea.

Yeah! Then maybe we could create the Ministry Of Love as well! That okay with you, O'Brien?

I agree with the first guy who wrote in. (Red Tory States maybe?) Just keep it inside the bedroom. I dont care if you have a parade that does not revolve around flaunting your preferences. Maybe we should replace all the Gay rallies and parades with patriotic parades and rallies to counter the rights for illeagal citizens and we hate the government groups. Just an idea.

i agree to that

i agree.
i don't care if you are gay or not, and i don't want to know.
go ahead, get married, adopt a kid, just don't have some riot on the streets telling everyone how you got f*cked up the ass last nice by your bf.
That's something you keep to yourself.

Heterosexuals don't do it, so why should you.

A parade is hardly a riot.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh man, that's priceless. Wait, you're serious?

HAHAHAHA....
What are you talking about?????
I've never heard about or seen a heterosexual parade screaming to everyone that they are straight.
I should have mentioned that in my earlier post.

Why should you have a parade celebrating a chemical imbalance?

whoa whoa whoa, my church does not support gay marriage, but we are forced to do it by the law, because its considered anti-gay if you refuse to perfore the marriage. And the majority of canadians do NOT support gay marriage, the only reason we have it is because, really stupid elected a really stupid liberal government.


Ok, you need to shut yourself down for the night because you are SPENT. A majority (or at least plurality) elected a government that stands for a position, but you think that government doesn't reflect popular sentiment?

Sucks live in a democracy, huh?

democracy does not work, people are dumb, and cannot make decisions on there own, much like you guys. You have a warped view on whats right and wrong since you are gay

It doesn't work because it enables people to engage in behavior you'd prefer not to see...?

democracy does not work, people are dumb, and cannot make decisions on there own, much like you guys. You have a warped view on whats right and wrong since you are gay

...


And there went your last ounce of respectability. Democracy would seem to work, as the West shows, people can make decisions on their own, as...well, people show. As to us being wrong because we're gay...


No, I think I'll let that stand for itself....

should we ban every parade that you have no interest in?

Yes. In fact, we should ban parades in general. All they do is clog up streets.

Ok, you need to shut yourself down for the night because you are SPENT. A majority (or at least plurality) elected a government that stands for a position, but you think that government doesn't reflect popular sentiment?

whoa, remember in canada, the government represents where they will get the most votes, like in the cities, because in canada there is a election riding for every so many people... so no, the people in rural areas are not represented

democracy does not work, people are dumb, and cannot make decisions on there own, much like you guys. You have a warped view on whats right and wrong since you are gay

Good God, I hope you're not serious. That is the most ignorant, dehumanising thing I've ever read.

What are you talking about?????
I've never heard about or seen a heterosexual parade screaming to everyone that they are straight.
I should have mentioned that in my earlier post.

Why should you have a parade celebrating a chemical imbalance?

Chemical imbalance? That's priceless...


Heterosexual parades occur every day. They're called society old chum...

democracy does not work, people are dumb, and cannot make decisions on there own, much like you guys. You have a warped view on whats right and wrong since you are gay

Way to draw the wrong conclusion, Sherlock.

What are you talking about?????
I've never heard about or seen a heterosexual parade screaming to everyone that they are straight.
I should have mentioned that in my earlier post.
You wouldn't think of it as a parade. Things that occur EVERY FREAKING DAY are usually not considered to be a parade. Everywhere I look heterosexuality is there. There are people who make out in public for no reason other than that they want to be seen.

Why should you have a parade celebrating a chemical imbalance?
Please go educate yourself on the subject before spouting off ignorant bullshit that was disproved decades ago.

I could have a straight pride parade. That way everyone can know my sexual orintation, and I can force them to acknowledge it even though it has abousulutly nothing to do with them.
Here as long as you meet the laws that set holding such parades then you should be able to hold it. Also as long as you are willing to pay any fees required to provide police services, fire services, medical services, and other such items to protect the citizenship that might become involved you can have it.
I DO NOT HATE GAYS, I just think that society has gone way too far. It does not matter what sexual orientation you are, as long as you keap it inside you, no one has to know.
I suppose you have at least two gay friends that you play poker with every other Wednesday night with! Here if gays must keep it inside them then what about straights keeping it inside them? I can see public display of improper conduct between two people being restricted regardless of the sexes of the two people, but to just say if two guys or gals kissing in public is wrong then a guy and gal should not be allowed to kiss in public; or say even hug and hold hands if same sexes can't do it in public.
I say we ban the gay pride parade, and any other event dealing with sexual orintations in public. Weddings are okay because there private.
Then we need to ban all parades period as any that say have near nude females parading down the street is a display of sexual nature, and even men in uniform as have heard that many women get turned on by a man in uniform. So ban military parades... or turn on all those women...

Such an amusing thread. Couple points for both sides:
1)Banning gay pride parades (at least in the USA) would be ridiculously unconstitutional.
2)I've never known heterosexuals who were as consistently publicly sexual in their language and behavior as the homosexuals I've known. On the other hand, I suspect the people I've known to be homosexual made up the minority of homosexuals I've actually known.
3)Believing homosexuality is wrong does not qualify one as a homophobe.
4)The government has no Constitutional (again, in the USA) right to either force churches to marry homosexuals or to deny homosexuals legal marriage.

whoa, remember in canada, the government represents where they will get the most votes, like in the cities, because in canada there is a election riding for every so many people... so no, the people in rural areas are not represented


I'll skip the grammar lesson because they cover that in second grade.

That argument is logically bankrupt. They represent the places where they will get the most votes. That means the represent the majority.... (And even though I believe this nuance is beyond you, I will point out that your argument does carry a small amount of weight because politicians do give more attention (all else equal) to heavily populated areas in a winner-takes-all system.)

I grew out of arguing with children a long time ago. (Although it was amusing for a while).

whoa whoa whoa, my church does not support gay marriage, but we are forced to do it by the law, because its considered anti-gay if you refuse to perfore the marriage. And the majority of canadians do NOT support gay marriage, the only reason we have it is because, really stupid elected a really stupid liberal government.


I'd appreciate it if you didn't lump me in with your little group of bigots. Thanks.

I'll skip the grammar lesson because they cover that in second grade.

That argument is logically bankrupt. They represent the places where they will get the most votes. That means the represent the majority.... (And even though I believe this nuance is beyond you, I will point out that your argument does carry a small amount of weight because politicians do give more attention (all else equal) to heavily populated areas in a winner-takes-all system.)

I grew out of arguing with children a long time ago. (Although it was amusing for a while).

nice humour there, with those elite skills of making laughter, you could become some sort of stand up comedian. good job, asshole

nice humour there, with those elite skills of making laughter, you could become some sort of stand up comedian. good job, asshole

Nice way of avoiding the difficult questions posed to you as well old chap. Mind answering them?

I'll skip the grammar lesson because they cover that in second grade.

That argument is logically bankrupt. They represent the places where they will get the most votes. That means the represent the majority.... (And even though I believe this nuance is beyond you, I will point out that your argument does carry a small amount of weight because politicians do give more attention (all else equal) to heavily populated areas in a winner-takes-all system.)

I grew out of arguing with children a long time ago. (Although it was amusing for a while).

WHAT QUESTIONS?????? could anyone tell me???

WHAT QUESTIONS?????? could anyone tell me???

Well, why homosexuality is wrong, for one. Oh, and why Nazis apparently can't hold parades, as you suggested...

This thread needs to die before it attracts any more undesireable biased facists that want to encroach on my civil rights. Although I suppose its what happens when you stop teaching grammer in schools and spend all your mone on wars... But thats beside the point. I want to defend these facist's civil rights and allow him/her to make circular arguments against hard facts. The only way to do this is to get rid of the facists in question. That'll solve two of my problems. Now take advantage of you unfairly libral government and go to a doctors office and request assisted suicide while I go to my Bisexual Paligamist's BDSM parade.

Well, why homosexuality is wrong, for one. Oh, and why Nazis apparently can't hold parades, as you suggested...

thats not a question,

and that was not posted, when you told me to answer it.

So could anyone tell me how, i was physically suppose to answer that was not there to begin with???

This thread needs to die before it attracts any more undesireable biased facists that want to encroach on my civil rights. Although I suppose its what happens when you stop teaching grammer in schools and spend all your mone on wars... But thats beside the point. I want to defend these facist's civil rights and allow him/her to make circular arguments against hard facts. The only way to do this is to get rid of the facists in question. That'll solve two of my problems. Now take advantage of you unfairly libral government and go to a doctors office and request assisted suicide while I go to my Bisexual Paligamist's BDSM parade.

I didn't understand a word of that. Could you translate it?

This thread needs to die before it attracts any more undesireable biased facists that want to encroach on my civil rights. Although I suppose its what happens when you stop teaching grammer in schools and spend all your mone on wars... But thats beside the point. I want to defend these facist's civil rights and allow him/her to make circular arguments against hard facts. The only way to do this is to get rid of the facists in question. That'll solve two of my problems. Now take advantage of you unfairly libral government and go to a doctors office and request assisted suicide while I go to my Bisexual Paligamist's BDSM parade.

liberal

liberal

Troll.

liberal

Ahem, I believe you mean "Pinko".

gay prides are... how to say?....gay? :p

Its esthetatically a horrifying scene I must say, seening big hairy guys acting like 14 year old school girls is... scary! lol Its normal for heterosexuals to dont like it and even get disgusted by it. But some people get disgusted from seeing anyone having sexual actions in open or wearing some revealing clothes. Can that be banned? No, banning is no solution.

Gays should stop having so many wild parades and act calmer, normal people should act calm and normal too. Everyone must respect each other and meet at a middle ground. Its that simple, RESPECT. There is nothing wrong about respecting each other and acting a bit normal, its not end of your freedoms. Homosexuality is as old as humanity, even if religiously banned or govermentally banned it goes on. But it doesnt mean what cannot be stopped should be allowed to roam freely and helped to grow. Just contain whats already there and go on. Humans are meant to couple with a male and a female, otherwise is a disrespect to nature to god and human itself as far as I believe, but I dont go on and bash skulls of gay people around. Live and let live.
You westerns are overabussing any rights you lay your hands on, like suing people for simplest things. When you get the right to shout you shout meaninglessly, when you get the right to have sex you have sex with anything breathing(not always in cases of necrophilia), when you get right to... etc.

***If you can that doesnt mean you MUST!***

Ahem, I believe you mean "Pinko".

huh???

huh???

Good god man, you can't even get your insults straight. 'Liberal' is slang, as is 'Pinko'.

gay prides are... how to say?....gay? :p

Its esthetatically a horrifying scene I must say, seening big hairy guys acting like 14 year old school girls is... scary! lol Its normal for heterosexuals to dont like it and even get disgusted by it. But some people get disgusted from seeing anyone having sexual actions in open or wearing some revealing clothes. Can that be banned? No, banning is no solution.

Gays should stop having so many wild parades and act calmer, normal people should act calm and normal too. Everyone must respect each other and meet at a middle ground. Its that simple, RESPECT. There is nothing wrong about respecting each other and acting a bit normal, its not end of your freedoms. Homosexuality is as old as humanity, even if religiously banned or govermentally banned it goes on. But it doesnt mean what cannot be stopped should be allowed to roam freely and helped to grow. Just contain whats already there and go on. Humans are meant to couple with a male and a female, otherwise is a disrespect to nature to god and human itself as far as I believe, but I dont go on and bash skulls of gay people around. Live and let live.
You westerns are overabussing any rights you lay your hands on, like suing people for simplest things. When you get the right to shout you shout meaninglessly, when you get the right to have sex you have sex with anything breathing(not always in cases of necrophilia), when you get right to... etc.

***If you can that doesnt mean you MUST!***

Daily society is a parade of heterosexuality. Why should gays have to be the ones hiding when heterosexuals flaunt it 24/7?

"live and let live"

Thats what I'm talking about, although taking advantage of ignorant individuals is too much fun...

“We’re here. We’re queer. Get used to it!!”

Get used to what??? You’re gay. Good for you! Now just tell me, what does it have to do with me??? I don’t care if someone is gay. I’m glad for your lifestyle but I don’t care!

I could have a straight pride parade. That way everyone can know my sexual orintation, and I can force them to acknowledge it even though it has abousulutly nothing to do with them.

I DO NOT HATE GAYS, I just think that society has gone way too far. It does not matter what sexual orientation you are, as long as you keap it inside you, no one has to know.

I say we ban the gay pride parade, and any other event dealing with sexual orintations in public. Weddings are okay because there private.

THINK ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID!!!!!! I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!!!!

So, what you're saying is that we shouldn't have public demonstrations because then we might be forcing people to know something about us? That's incredibly stupid.

Daily society is a parade of heterosexuality. Why should gays have to be the ones hiding when heterosexuals flaunt it 24/7?

okay remember at the start, i said that heterosexuals are just as wrong to do that in public as gays were, both sexualities should stop expressing themselves in the public eye. Just leave it inside you... geez

okay remember at the start, i said that heterosexuals are just as wrong to do that in public as gays were, both sexualities should stop expressing themselves in the public eye. Just leave it inside you... geez

and when i mean leave it inside you, dont actaually do that, go get a date but dont make out in public or just for no aparent cause touch each other

“We’re here. We’re queer. Get used to it!!”

Get used to what??? You’re gay. Good for you! Now just tell me, what does it have to do with me??? I don’t care if someone is gay. I’m glad for your lifestyle but I don’t care!

I could have a straight pride parade. That way everyone can know my sexual orintation, and I can force them to acknowledge it even though it has abousulutly nothing to do with them.

I DO NOT HATE GAYS, I just think that society has gone way too far. It does not matter what sexual orientation you are, as long as you keap it inside you, no one has to know.

I say we ban the gay pride parade, and any other event dealing with sexual orintations in public. Weddings are okay because there private.

THINK ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID!!!!!! I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!!!!
Cool. At the same time that we ban this can we also ban Mormons from knocking our doors and proclaiming their Mormon-ess; Ban Animal Rights activists from publically proclaiming how my meat products should be killed; BAN TELEVANGELISTS (Please and seriously); Ban Anti-Choice activists as well as Pro-choice activists from making their proclaimations in public; Ban Gun Rights activists from having their rallies in public places; ban anyone of any religion from standing anywhere in public to hand out their little friggin' pamphlets on how soon their messiah is supposed to be here; Ban anti-porn and pro-porn activists from doing their ... things ...

Let's make this easy. Let's ban everyone from doing anything that's a public proclaimation of any kind that could be intrusive on our sensitive eardrums and corneas.

Oh! Wait! Isn't doing that sort of thing a big reason for the USA existing today? Y'know, people standing up and declairing something? Seems to me I read that somewhere before ...

:cool:

okay remember at the start, i said that heterosexuals are just as wrong to do that in public as gays were, both sexualities should stop expressing themselves in the public eye. Just leave it inside you... geez

Why be so puritanical? Let loose, let everyone know what you are, be happy. Don't wrap yourself up; have fun and don't give a toss about what other, more bigoted, people think.

Daily society is a parade of heterosexuality. Why should gays have to be the ones hiding when heterosexuals flaunt it 24/7?
In my message I also say some people doesnt even like any kind of sexual parade or even open clothes. I say all people should learn to live their freedoms without giving trouble to other people. And other people should be a bit more welcoming against other poeples rights to make a bit of showing of their selves.
***Its the right to be yourself that your country gives you, not stick it into others eyes what you are to provoke them into tying you to a stick and burning. Act a bit cool and normal, because no one really cares if you are gay or not. **
And if no one accepts being nice to each other then both should be eliminated and replaced by genetically engineered single sex(multplying by dividing itself) llamas

Cool. At the same time that we ban this can we also ban Mormons from knocking our doors and proclaiming their Mormon-ess; Ban Animal Rights activists from publically proclaiming how my meat products should be killed; BAN TELEVANGELISTS (Please and seriously); Ban Anti-Choice activists as well as Pro-choice activists from making their proclaimations in public; Ban Gun Rights activists from having their rallies in public places; ban anyone of any religion from standing anywhere in public to hand out their little friggin' pamphlets on how soon their messiah is supposed to be here; Ban anti-porn and pro-porn activists from doing their ... things ...

Let's make this easy. Let's ban everyone from doing anything that's a public proclaimation of any kind that could be intrusive on our sensitive eardrums and corneas.

Oh! Wait! Isn't doing that sort of thing a big reason for the USA existing today? Y'know, people standing up and declairing something? Seems to me I read that somewhere before ...

:cool:

but the are not standing up and declaring anything of importance, important things like abortion and death are very different. this is sexual orentation that they are standing up for... like who cares what your sexual orentation is? i sure dont

Why be so puritanical? Let loose, let everyone know what you are, be happy. Don't wrap yourself up; have fun and don't give a toss about what other, more bigoted, people think.

no

...Are there elements of society suggesting that you should be ashamed of being straight? That you should be discriminated against because you are straight?


No but you did make their point. They are saying what if it were the other way around? what if being stait was taboo or shunned? how would you feel?
that feeling in the bottom of ur stomach when u feel like ppl r telling you its wrong to be strait, that how they feel if you dont like that feeling don't contribute to giving it to others.

no

Then you're a puritan old chum. Nothing wrong with being public about sexuality; it doesn't harm anyone now, does it? Christians don't start writhing in pain when they see a gay couple kissing, for example...

In my message I also say some people doesnt even like any kind of sexual parade or even open clothes. I say all people should learn to live their freedoms without giving trouble to other people. And other people should be a bit more welcoming against other poeples rights to make a bit of showing of their selves.
And if no one accepts being nice to each other then both should be eliminated and replaced by genetically engineered single sex(multplying by dividing itself) llamas

what about public nudists who want to go nude everywhere? thats not something that i am going to accept, and i will give trouble to that

and when i mean leave it inside you, dont actaually do that, go get a date but dont make out in public or just for no aparent cause touch each other
I guess "love" isn't a cause.

...Are there elements of society suggesting that you should be ashamed of being straight? That you should be discriminated against because you are straight?


No but you did make their point. They are saying what if it were the other way around? what if being stait was taboo or shunned? how would you feel?
that feeling in the bottom of ur stomach when u feel like ppl r telling you its wrong to be strait, that how they feel if you dont like that feeling don't contribute to giving it to others.

who cares what other people are saying about it!!! its you, if you like it then so br it, but dont rub it in their faces

what about public nudists who want to go nude everywhere? thats not something that i am going to accept, and i will give trouble to that

Whats wrong with seeing a bit of flesh?

I guess "love" isn't a cause.

love doesnt involve touching

who cares what other people are saying about it!!! its you, if you like it then so br it, but dont rub it in their faces
Nobody is forcing you to go see a gay parade and heterosexuality is being rubbed in my face daily by countless people.

Whats wrong with seeing a bit of flesh?

if public nudists were just walking around, that would be intruding in my personal space, i personaly beleve that is wrong, if they want to walk around in there home naked, they can go ahead

...Are there elements of society suggesting that you should be ashamed of being straight? That you should be discriminated against because you are straight?


No but you did make their point. They are saying what if it were the other way around? what if being stait was taboo or shunned? how would you feel?
that feeling in the bottom of ur stomach when u feel like ppl r telling you its wrong to be strait, that how they feel if you dont like that feeling don't contribute to giving it to others.
If you are ashamed of what you are then you care about public opinion as a way to put your internal fears etc. to surface. ITs because as you grow up you are part of that public and even if you consciously deny what they believe in , you subconsciously believe in same things and to break your taboos you act like a weirdo even if you normally dont in bed with your mate. If you start a fight to break publics taboos in order to get rid of your taboos then there can be only one survivor, the majoritys beliefs.
So the only way for gays to exists is to stop starting a fight with that angry mob unable to understand basics of human soul and solve your porblems by yourself.
DOnt involve others in your problems because people dont care and dont have to care and pay attention because you feel bad about being gay. Everyone has their own problems caused of public but public is not one entity you can slay as a dragon and solve all the problems. You can only add to its mountain of problems.

love doesnt involve touching
Touching can be an expression of love. Why do you hate love so much?

if public nudists were just walking around, that would be intruding in my personal space, i personaly beleve that is wrong, if they want to walk around in there home naked, they can go ahead
Intruding in your personal space? It's not like they are rubbing their genitals over you. If you don't want to see it, look the other way.

Nobody is forcing you to go see a gay parade and heterosexuality is being rubbed in my face daily by countless people.

try going one year without seeing one gay thing, its everywhere in the newspaper, the tv, the streets, and at schools

and those heterosexual people that rub it in your and my face everyday are wrong to do that

love doesnt involve touching

Really? I rather think it does. Or does one express love merely verbally, perhaps by nodding to your partner? Or putting your hands within a few inches of each others?

I do think gay pride parades are a ridiculous spectacle. But so are Saint Patricks day parades Cinco de Mayo parades and generally most parades (except the Macy's Thanksgiving day parade. The balloons are still cool even after all these years.) Goofyness is no reason to ban parades.

I would like fairness in the classroom regarding history however. Now that black and female history are actively being taught seperately and new history books will specifically point out figures in history who were either gentlemen who sought sex with gentlemen or ladies who sought sex with ladiies IN THE NAME OF FAIRNESS IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE! I would like listed the sexual preference gender and race of every person mentioned in any textbook. Those being taught apparantly have a need to know these things. If Hitler was a straight white male and Churchill was a bisexual woman in drag our kids need to know these things. Since Bill Clinton enjoyed oral sex telling whoppers and open marriage but did not consider felatio to be real sex, well that sexuality report should be the first thing mentioned in history books after his name. Our children need this information more than say math skills. History sorted by gender, race, and what people prefer to do with their genitalia (given the desire and an opportunity)

I imagine that some historical figures will have sexuallity so all inclusive and overarching (Im beginning to enjoy using NS buzzwords) that they will have to be deleted from paper textbooks in order to curb deforestation. Take your pick , ancient rome in printed history or the brazillian rainforests.


I chuckle when I think about how far gay marriage activists are really willing to go in order to get their way. As of today new California textbooks may no longer use the words Mom or Dad in them because they have been found to be oppressive to gay folk and are furthering the evil hetero stereotype of what a family is. "Mother" and "Father" cant be printed either. Nothing gender specific may be printed about families now. Come to think of it neither "egg donor" nor "sperm donor" would work either. I guess California schoolchildren will be taught to call their biological parents gene donors and those who rear the California kids will be called parentoid units alpha and beta.

try going one year without seeing one gay thing, its everywhere in the newspaper, the tv, the streets, and at schools

and those heterosexual people that rub it in your and my face everyday are wrong to do that
It's everywhere. So what? That's called freedom. You don't have the right to not be offended by other people.

Intruding in your personal space? It's not like they are rubbing their genitals over you. If you don't want to see it, look the other way.

and they would be on every street corner, hard to stop your children from seeing it to... children are young, and have a strange interpretation on what is good and bad, they would be scared from things such as nudit in public and in private

Touching can be an expression of love. Why do you hate love so much?

i dont hate love, i just dont think i need to share it with everyone

lets just have a huge orgy covering the face of the whole planet and consisting of every alive and dead organism(ameobas, elephants, snakes etc), rock trees etc. to make peace and understand each other and become one with gaia (dont forget the pot)
O_o'!

somebody said that being gay is a trait. wrong. it is a choice and a lifestyle. and the Bible says it is wrong and that is what i believe. its supposed to be man and woman, not man, man or woman woman.

i dont hate love, i just dont think i need to share it with everyone

You are so gay.

somebody said that being gay is a trait. wrong. it is a choice and a lifestyle. and the Bible says it is wrong and that is what i believe. its supposed to be man and woman, not man, man or woman woman.
The bible is a book of fiction.

The bible is a book of fiction.

:rolleyes:

If some dude is allowed to make out with his girlfriend in a park, why the hell shouldn't a gay be able to do the same with his lover? It's not something you choose to be. Don't even try to argue it, because every single psychological society in the world disagrees with you. There isn't anything that would make you choose to be gay. You're born that way.

Why shouldn't gay pride parades be allowed? I mean, it's like saying I shouldn't be allowed to protest in public. Or say I find the Macy's Day Parade to be repulsive. It doesn't mean I say it shouldn't happen; I just don't watch it. If it pisses you off so much, just ignore it. It's not that hard to do.

You are so gay.

i am religious, it is against my religion to be gay. But that does not mean i hate them, i just disagree when they got into public and tell everyone what their sexual orientation is

somebody said that being gay is a trait. wrong. it is a choice and a lifestyle. and the Bible says it is wrong and that is what i believe. its supposed to be man and woman, not man, man or woman woman.
Homosexuality is known to have a genetic base. The Bible actually doesn't say one way or another, if you care to actually look into what it says in Hebrew, instead of the amazingly fucked up translations commonly used.

The bible is a book of fiction.

you shouldnt go to people and say that they are wrong just because they follow that book, as long as there religion doesnt hurt anyone ...

WHO CARES???

you shouldnt go to people and say that they are wrong just because they follow that book, as long as there religion doesnt hurt anyone ...

WHO CARES???
What, are homosexuals not people now?

If some dude is allowed to make out with his girlfriend in a park, why the hell shouldn't a gay be able to do the same with his lover? It's not something you choose to be. Don't even try to argue it, because every single psychological society in the world disagrees with you. There isn't anything that would make you choose to be gay. You're born that way.

Why shouldn't gay pride parades be allowed? I mean, it's like saying I shouldn't be allowed to protest in public. Or say I find the Macy's Day Parade to be repulsive. It doesn't mean I say it shouldn't happen; I just don't watch it. If it pisses you off so much, just ignore it. It's not that hard to do.

a guy kissing a girl in the park is just as wrong as the gay pride parade in the first place, i never said it wasent

i am religious, it is against my religion to be gay. But that does not mean i hate them, i just disagree when they got into public and tell everyone what their sexual orientation is
Tough shit. They are here to stay and nothing you can do about it. If straight people can flaunt their sexuality, so can gay people.

What, are homosexuals not people now?

the bible does not teach people to hate gays, you have been mislead

Even that set aside, why shouldn't they be allowed to? Because you find it to be gross? I find spiders to be gross, but I don't campaign for them to be banned from being in public. It's the exact same thing. They have a permit to express themselves in such a manner. It's not like the Constitution in any way condones the banning of a gay pride parade. It's a form of expression. The point isn't that they're trying to make you care that they are gay.

the bible does not teach people to hate gays, you have been mislead
I never said it did. The version of Christianity believed in by the person who was told that the Bible was fiction does, however.

Tough shit. They are here to stay and nothing you can do about it. If straight people can flaunt their sexuality, so can gay people.

NO, listen when straight people openly tell everyone that there gay, there is no difference between that and when a gay person does it

THERE BOTH WRONG!! that persons sexuality does not concern me, they shouldnt have to voice it out like that

Tough shit. They are here to stay and nothing you can do about it. If straight people can flaunt their sexuality, so can gay people.
of course they 'can' but flaunting sexuality is not well liked by everyone so people should prefer not to do it. Gay or not gay. I think subject is wrong, ''we should ban gay parade' is an overreaction. It should be not discussed. A more civil discussion should be about public eqituette.
ıts like one spoiled children is messing around and little one says 'look what he is doing! why are you mad at me if he is doing it ı have the right to do it too' they are both wrong.

NO, listen when straight people openly tell everyone that there gay, there is no difference between that and when a gay person does it

There's a huge difference. One of them is not telling the truth.

I never said it did. The version of Christianity believed in by the person who was told that the Bible was fiction does, however.

well thats not the bibles fault

of course they 'can' but flaunting sexuality is not well liked by everyone so people should prefer not to do it.
Big fucking woop. I don't like your posts. By your logic, you should stop posting.

NO, listen when straight people openly tell everyone that there gay, there is no difference between that and when a gay person does it

THERE BOTH WRONG!! that persons sexuality does not concern me, they shouldnt have to voice it out like that

WHOOPS, i meant to say straight

well thats not the bibles fault
We were talking about religion, not the Bible. Stop shifting the damn goalposts.

Big fucking woop. I don't like your posts. By your logic, you should stop posting.

close minded

close minded
I find this hilarious. I doubt you know why.

We were talking about religion, not the Bible. Stop shifting the damn goalposts.

religions that teach people to hate gays, are wrong

I find this hilarious. I doubt you know why.

why the hell, would i know why your close minded???

you shouldnt go to people and say that they are wrong just because they follow that book, as long as there religion doesnt hurt anyone ...

WHO CARES???

This is so insanely ironic that it physically hurts me.

This is so insanely ironic that it physically hurts me.

Where is the irony????

of course they 'can' but flaunting sexuality is not well liked by everyone so people should prefer not to do it. Gay or not gay. I think subject is wrong, ''we should ban gay parade' is an overreaction. It should be not discussed. A more civil discussion should be about public eqituette.
ıts like one spoiled children is messing around and little one says 'look what he is doing! why are you mad at me if he is doing it ı have the right to do it too' they are both wrong.
Or their both right. Just because some people reject public displays of affection, doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to. People have no right to not be offended.

why the hell, would i know why your close minded???
I have no idea what you're saying here.

i said that you where "close minded"

you said "I find this hilarious. I doubt you know why."

then i said that something like i wouldnt know why you were close minded

then you said "I have no idea what you're saying here."

Or their both right. Just because some people reject public displays of affection, doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to. People have no right to not be offended.

thats a awful thing to say

i said that you where "close minded"

you said "I find this hilarious. I doubt you know why."

then i said that something like i wouldnt know why you were close minded

then you said "I have no idea what you're saying here."
See, the humor was that you called me "close-minded" when I called you on your close-mindedness.

See, the humor was that you called me "close-minded" when I called you on your close-mindedness.

o ok i thought that u where laughing that i wouldnt know why you were close minded

thats a awful thing to say
Or so you say. Unlike you, I'm not for banning every little thing I don't like.

Big fucking woop. I don't like your posts. By your logic, you should stop posting.
stop looking things in black and white. Im saying that the discussion is in allowed or banned format. If you look things like having a right or not you will continuously :headbang: your head. The real question that needs answer is what defines a persons limits of rights? People are stupid and want answers in yes or no's but all questions that can be answered in yes or no are wrong. It is the core thats wrong in western civilization 'to be or not to be' ....thats plain faschism. A civilized person should discuss the subtle details, thats where the devil lies.

love doesnt involve touching

What is encompassed by the word "touching?" If you mean a sensual sort of touching, then I think you need to realize that sex is a part of love, whether or not you or anyone else want it to be. How you express your love to whomever you like is your business and yes, certain things like making love in public are inappropriate, but if you wish to declare your love to the masses of the world, then you should be free to do so. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure you are.

thats a awful thing to say


If I have the right to not be offended, I should probably let you know that your buffoonery offends me.

adding to my last post...

most of human race needs retraining...argh.

stop looking things in black and white. Im saying that the discussion is in allowed or banned format. If you look things like having a right or not you will continuously :headbang: your head. The real question that needs answer is what defines a persons limits of rights? People are stupid and want answers in yes or no's but all questions that can be answered in yes or no are wrong. It is the core thats wrong in western civilization 'to be or not to be' ....thats plain faschism. A civilized person should discuss the subtle details, thats where the devil lies.
Or you know, people can stop bitching every time they see something they don't like. We live in a free society and if you are offended, it's your problem.

What is encompassed by the word "touching?" If you mean a sensual sort of touching, then I think you need to realize that sex is a part of love, whether or not you or anyone else want it to be. How you express your love to whomever you like is your business and yes, certain things like making love in public are inappropriate, but if you wish to declare your love to the masses of the world, then you should be free to do so. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure you are.

i meant to say that love does not have to envolve touching in public

adding to my last post...

most of human race needs retraining...argh.

we have a long way to go as a society

This is already probably protected by The Universal Bill of Rights and its freedom of expression clause anyway.

Or you know, people can stop bitching every time they see something they don't like. We live in a free society and if you are offended, it's your problem.

i get offended when people wont help starving people in africa, that is not right, i should not tell anyone that offends me, WHY? because people need to no

OMFG ITS TEH GEYHS! /KICKban!!!11.

THINK ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID!!!!!! I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!!!!

Most parades don't have anything to do with you.

stop looking things in black and white. Im saying that the discussion is in allowed or banned format. If you look things like having a right or not you will continuously :headbang: your head. The real question that needs answer is what defines a persons limits of rights? People are stupid and want answers in yes or no's but all questions that can be answered in yes or no are wrong. It is the core thats wrong in western civilization 'to be or not to be' ....thats plain faschism. A civilized person should discuss the subtle details, thats where the devil lies.

thats the best comment left on this forum today

we have a long way to go as a society
Yup, people like you are a problem. It's going to be a long time before society will just learn to live and let live.

stop looking things in black and white. Im saying that the discussion is in allowed or banned format. If you look things like having a right or not you will continuously :headbang: your head. The real question that needs answer is what defines a persons limits of rights? People are stupid and want answers in yes or no's but all questions that can be answered in yes or no are wrong. It is the core thats wrong in western civilization 'to be or not to be' ....thats plain faschism. A civilized person should discuss the subtle details, thats where the devil lies.

I agree with some points of your argument. I think not everything has a definate answer. However, I think that denying a person or group of people a civil right that another person or group of people has is wrong. Plain and simple.

Most parades don't have anything to do with you.

but they do, its in the public, my children will see this happening, how am i going to stop them from going to such parades

I agree with some points of your argument. I think not everything has a definate answer. However, I think that denying a person or group of people a civil right that another person or group of people has is wrong. Plain and simple.

and i am not doing that

stop looking things in black and white. Im saying that the discussion is in allowed or banned format. If you look things like having a right or not you will continuously :headbang: your head. The real question that needs answer is what defines a persons limits of rights? People are stupid and want answers in yes or no's but all questions that can be answered in yes or no are wrong. It is the core thats wrong in western civilization 'to be or not to be' ....thats plain faschism. A civilized person should discuss the subtle details, thats where the devil lies.
Why the hell are you telling me this? The only person looking at things in black and white is our Tory pal. All I'm doing is mocking his argument.

but they do, its in the public, my children will see this happening, how am i going to stop them from going to such parades
Ummm..... go somewhere else?

Why the hell are you tell me this? The only person looking at things in black and white is our Tory pal. All I'm doing is mocking his argument.

mocking my comments will only make it worse

“We’re here. We’re queer. Get used to it!!”

Get used to what??? You’re gay. Good for you! Now just tell me, what does it have to do with me??? I don’t care if someone is gay. I’m glad for your lifestyle but I don’t care!

I could have a straight pride parade. That way everyone can know my sexual orintation, and I can force them to acknowledge it even though it has abousulutly nothing to do with them.

I DO NOT HATE GAYS, I just think that society has gone way too far. It does not matter what sexual orientation you are, as long as you keap it inside you, no one has to know.

I say we ban the gay pride parade, and any other event dealing with sexual orintations in public. Weddings are okay because there private.

THINK ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID!!!!!! I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!!!!

here here...though a ban is rather harsh, especially with freedom of speech...

but they do, its in the public, my children will see this happening, how am i going to stop them from going to such parades

Shelter them entirely and don't let them leave the house.

However, then you sacrifice the possibility of your child being a cultured human being.

But whatever. It's your kid.

Ummm..... go somewhere else?

i was born here, my acesters didnt want there land to be pissed on by liberals, i cant leave, where would i go???

here here...though a ban is rather harsh, especially with freedom of speech...

its not the freedom of speech, the parade is a previlge not a right

i was born here, my acesters didnt want there land to be pissed on by liberals, i cant leave, where would i go???
Huh?
I meant don't go to the parade.

mocking my comments will only make it worse

Make what worse, exactly?

Huh?
I meant don't go to the parade.

but its not just the parade, its everywhere, even in my church, since out churches are now forced to perform marridges to gays

its not the freedom of speech, the parade is a previlge not a right
Last I checked, the Canadian Constitution granted Freedom of Assembly. So, the parade is a right.

i was born here, my acesters didnt want there land to be pissed on by liberals, i cant leave, where would i go???

What kind of people do you think decided to separate from England? The people who were unhappy with the current goings-on in their colonies and the controlling government. They were for change and they had to start from scratch. Starting over with something new is one of the most well-known ideas of the radical. The farthest left you can get. Meaning our ancestors (or at least our forefathers) were liberals, in a way.

Just because your religion doesn't tolerate homosexuality why would that prevent a parade of people proud of themselves? I wouldn't know, but I'm sure it would take a lot of balls (no pun intended) to tell someone that you're gay.

It IS the freedom of assembly and freedom of speech. Like someone said, if you don't want to see it turn around.

Accept it. Homosexuality is becoming a social norm.

Make what worse, exactly?

i will only learn to hate gays more and more, since they just mock my comments, do they ever listen?? do they ever have a debate about it???

i will only learn to hate gays more and more, since they just mock my comments, do they ever listen?? do they ever have a debate about it???

Why do you assume everyone who argues with you is gay?

What kind of people do you think decided to separate from England? The people who were unhappy with the current goings-on in their colonies and the controlling government. They were for change and they had to start from scratch. Starting over with something new is one of the most well-known ideas of the radical. The farthest left you can get. Meaning our ancestors (or at least our forefathers) were liberals, in a way.

hence my name the red tory, i do not think we should have seperated from england

i will only learn to hate gays more and more, since they just mock my comments, do they ever listen?? do they ever have a debate about it???

Vast generalization alert! Just because I argue for gay rights does not mean I am gay. I, as a matter of fact, am straight. I'm just for the "All men are created equal" thing.

Why do you assume everyone who argues with you is gay?

ok gay, or gay helper

How is that?

hence my name the red tory, i do not think we should have seperated from england

Why not!? They were being controlled from across an OCEAN! That's hardly effective!

but they do, its in the public, my children will see this happening, how am i going to stop them from going to such parades

How are you going to stop your children from parading with the Veterans? (I'm going to make the bold assumption you're an american)
How can you stop your children from guzzling coke when it's written in big letters all over the public streets?
I hear there's a town that has a "Hershey's chocolate parade". What's that got to do with you?

I know: Don't have children.

Why not!? They were being controlled from across an OCEAN! That's hardly effective!

it worked for my family

should we ban every parade that you have no interest in?
Please! Oh god please do! I hate them all.

...they take away from decent TV time. I honestly think they're the reason videogames were invented!

How are you going to stop your children from parading with the Veterans? (I'm going to make the bold assumption you're an american)
How can you stop your children from guzzling coke when it's written in big letters all over the public streets?
I hear there's a town that has a "Hershey's chocolate parade". What's that got to do with you?

I know: Don't have children.

but i want the children parading with veterans, and i am not americian

We need to go back to the way it was, there is no need for ads like the coke ones, people are dieing in other countries and hear we are putting money into ads and shity mercincise

ok gay, or gay helper

How is that?
Stupid. Or stupid helper.

How's that?

it worked for my family

Oh, so you're one of those people who follows in the footsteps of his predecessors to the point where you've worn the ground down so much that you're up to your neck in sand?

but i want the children parading with veterans, and i am not americian

We need to go back to the way it was, there is no need for ads like the coke ones, people are dieing in other countries and hear we are putting money into ads and shity mercincise

Jesus, find an English textbook.

How come you'd rather your child marching with a possible pedophile (sorry vets) but you wouldn't want to see your son looking at a parade of people to be happy they live in a country where stones aren't chucked at them?

Hate to sound mean, but seriously. The West needs to help itself before it intervenes in the East.

Oh, so you're one of those people who follows in the footsteps of his predecessors to the point where you've worn the ground down so much that you're up to your neck in sand?

but it actually works

ok gay, or gay helper

How is that?

Incomprehensibly stupid.

“We’re here. We’re queer. Get used to it!!”

Get used to what??? You’re gay. Good for you! Now just tell me, what does it have to do with me??? I don’t care if someone is gay. I’m glad for your lifestyle but I don’t care!

I could have a straight pride parade. That way everyone can know my sexual orintation, and I can force them to acknowledge it even though it has abousulutly nothing to do with them.

I DO NOT HATE GAYS, I just think that society has gone way too far. It does not matter what sexual orientation you are, as long as you keap it inside you, no one has to know.

I say we ban the gay pride parade, and any other event dealing with sexual orintations in public. Weddings are okay because there private.

THINK ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID!!!!!! I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!!!!

Because a Straight Pride Parade would be so necessary.

Incomprehensibly stupid.

well what else was i to put? you whine about a little mistake, that had no big effect on anything

ooc: Brighton pcs are allowed to follow the parade in uniforms and not do their job. That is a little screwed. You're either on duty or off.

I'm not sure how it works in Brighton, but I think you'll find police officers are always on call to do their duty if they are required. Also they are required to act if they witness a crime or someone in danger while off duty. So in a way, police are never off duty.