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... if you really want to use that lovely Spanish term, then by all means refer to us as "estadounidense" and not "USian."
I heartily concurr.

1) By the logic argued, should they have been called the USSRians? Hmm Great Britian? GBians? As to your question? I don't know.

I seem to recall that ****** was taken from negger as a Dutch Slaver refered to his cargo. Never looked it up myself but it sounded plausible.

This is the only place I have heard USian.

does anyone say GB? at least in the case of the USSR, soviet refers to a group of cultural countries, not part of the name of two separate continents. actually i never looked up ****** either, that's just what i've been told.

never heard of USian before either, but i think i'll use it. it is a much more precise term than american.

does anyone say GB? at least in the case of the USSR, soviet refers to a group of cultural countries, not part of the name of two separate continents. actually i never looked up ****** either, that's just what i've been told.

never heard of USian before either, but i think i'll use it. it is a much more precise term than american.

Well by the logic of USian; GBian makes sense as you have the English, Welsh, Irish, and Scots. So GBian covers them all....

Or citizens of former East Germans as DRians.
But you too make a distinction when talking about East Germans. Simply calling them "Germans" may not be enough.

At times, the same can be true when talking about citizens from the US.

Well by the logic of USian; GBian makes sense as you have the English, Welsh, Irish, and Scots. So GBian covers them all....
yeah, but again, my question is, do people say, "The GB" when referring to Great Britain like people say "The US"?

I read ten and a half of the twenty six pages before finally giving up. This is one huge childish argument, the most childish being Eut and Fass. Though Eut's sarcastic remarks and refusal to admit to anything reminds me why I used to loathe him back when I was PIcaRDMPCia.

Anyway, it all comes down to: it's what we want to be called. Americans. It's what is used, it's what we like. I'm not going to insist on calling a Swedish man Bork Bork Bork* now am I? No, of course not. I'll call him what he wants to be called. Same courtesy applies to us. It's polite.

I do agree that the term USian seems to be intended--at least by some--as an insult. Especially from Fass.

*Refers to the Swedish Chef from the Muppets.

does anyone say GB? at least in the case of the USSR, soviet refers to a group of cultural countries, not part of the name of two separate continents. actually i never looked up ****** either, that's just what i've been told.

never heard of USian before either, but i think i'll use it. it is a much more precise term than american.

But its NOT a more precise term. Its like saying "United States-ians" were there any other unions of states to speak of, then it would be utterly useless. It just happens that the USA is the only union of states that I've heard of in the modern world. USAians would be perfectly logical, albeit cumbersome and irrelevant. It would be like saying GBians instead of Britons. Its just...pointless.

I was just reading this news story: http://news.yahoo.com/fc/US/Immigration - and thought it was interesting how they called it middle America and not just America.

But you too make a distinction when talking about East Germans. Simply calling them "Germans" may not be enough.

At times, the same can be true when talking about citizens from the US.

Of course Germans wouldn't have been precise enough; there were two Germanies. But there's only one America, the country. The use of America to describe two whole continents is the illogical part.

But its NOT a more precise term. Its like saying "United States-ians" were there any other unions of states to speak of, then it would be utterly useless. It just happens that the USA is the only union of states that I've heard of in the modern world. USAians would be perfectly logical, albeit cumbersome and irrelevant. It would be like saying GBians instead of Britons. Its just...pointless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico

The United Mexican States or Mexico (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos or México) is a country located in North America, bordered by the United States to the north, and Central America (specifically Belize and Guatemala) to the southeast. It is the northernmost and westernmost country in Latin America, and also the most populous Spanish-speaking country in the world.

yeah, but again, my question is, do people say, "The GB" when referring to Great Britain like people say "The US"?

I don't get your point. We called it the USSR so are they USSRians?

I love how you use a famous part of USian history to back up your argument. I am sure if you went back and asked the slaves what their biggest issue was, it would not be over a debate on the shared usage of their "proper name."

To use your argument, I'd say by refusing to share the title "American" with the peoples of the Americas, you are acting like a slave owner trying to deminish the importance of the people (to quote the Monroe doctrine) in your "backyard."

That's ok we still like you GBians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico

Well there you go. Mexicans aren't referred to as UMSians, are they?

Actually, she did demonstrate her true motivations and they have nothing to do with closed minds. Just look at the last couple of pages. ;)
Yes, I've known for quite some time how persuasive sex can be. ;)

This thread is way too long.
Why the hell are there over a thousand posts on it?:headbang:
No more mister nice guy on this issue.
We're Americans and that's that. :upyours:

But its NOT a more precise term. Its like saying "United States-ians" were there any other unions of states to speak of, then it would be utterly useless. It just happens that the USA is the only union of states that I've heard of in the modern world. USAians would be perfectly logical, albeit cumbersome and irrelevant. It would be like saying GBians instead of Britons. Its just...pointless.
saying 'US' clearly implies the USA, this is as common usage as american, so yes it is more precise. so it is not like GB at all, since I, for one, have never heard GB in common parlance.

Sheesh...is he still trying to get my attention? If you'd stop quoting him, I could drown him out completely....
WTF would I ever want your attention for???

yeah, but again, my question is, do people say, "The GB" when referring to Great Britain like people say "The US"?
No, we say the UK. So UKians should be it.

WTF would I ever want your attention for???
Because you're an argumentive old man who has nothing better to do than harrass all manners of people on a forum centered around political debate?

Of course Germans wouldn't have been precise enough; there were two Germanies. But there's only one America, the country. The use of America to describe two whole continents is the illogical part.
Sometimes one needs to refer to all people on the Americas. What word would I use? Americans!

And if I run the risk of confusion, I reserve the right to say "US-Americans". Usually "Americans" suffices, but sometimes it doesn't. And I assure you that I don't intend to insult anyone.

saying 'US' clearly implies the USA, this is as common usage as american, so yes it is more precise. so it is not like GB at all, since I, for one, have never heard GB in common parlance.

Okay, then, UK is very common usage, shall I start saying UKians? While we're at it we can start referring to people of all nationalities by abbreviations of their nations' formal titles. That would be the logical next step, wouldn't it?

Would you please give some examples of USian being used as a derogatory term?

If your hypothesis is correct, this should be easy to do.
It's not as easy as you might suppose, seeing as how it's been used repeatedly in a wide variety of threads.

saying 'US' clearly implies the USA, this is as common usage as american, so yes it is more precise. so it is not like GB at all, since I, for one, have never heard GB in common parlance.

Ahh but where is the confusion? I have been many countries and if you say American, they aren't thinking "Candian? Mexican?.....

When people exclaim "Those damn Americans are at it again" "The American Reich" ....

Theres no confusion as to the country now is there?

That's ok we still like you GBians.

No, I'm just Canadian. I would probabaly call a USian an American in day to day speech. But I don't think you should be offended when people from the Americas want to call themselves American...

Sometimes one needs to refer to all people on the Americas. What word would I use? Americans!

And if I run the risk of confusion, I reserve the right to say "US-Americans". Usually "Americans" suffices, but sometimes it doesn't. And I assure you that I don't intend to insult anyone.


Well? Considering it's broken down to North, Central and South.....

No, I'm just Canadian. I would probabaly call a USian an American in day to day speech. But I don't think you should be offended when people from the Americas want to call themselves American...

They rarely do, it's just the ones looking for something to find annoying, or make it up.

USian does seem a little awkward to me (although only because there are a few different ways you could conceivably pronounce it), but I don't really have a problem with it. Although, on the other hand - what's wrong with sticking with American?

If there was another term, though, I like "United Statesman" myself. (and no, it doesn't sound like a superhero if you pronounce the "man" part as you would the "man" in German)

Ahh but where is the confusion? I have been many countries and if you say American, they aren't thinking "Candian? Mexican?.....

When people exclaim "Those damn Americans are at it again" "The American Reich" ....

Theres no confusion as to the country now is there?

Amen. (were I a religous man)

No, I'm just Canadian. I would probabaly call a USian an American in day to day speech. But I don't think you should be offended when people from the Americas want to call themselves American...
That's just it. We don't have a problem with you calling yourselves Americans. We have a problem with you calling us Usians.

It appears that some members of that nation that is a union of states in the Americas (actually only one of many considering the number of federations in the Americas) that is commonly called the USA are objecting to being called USians. They find it insulting apparently (at least one does)
Yeah, and I bet I know who, too.

Smells-of-prunes.

Actually, I think I am being deliberately ignored in retaliation for having reported him to the Mods. But that may just be paranoia on my part.
Not at all. I've done my share of reporting to the mods. It would be rather foolish of me to hold that against anyone else.

No, I'm just Canadian. I would probabaly call a USian an American in day to day speech. But I don't think you should be offended when people from the Americas want to call themselves American...

Ahh. "Yank" I usually hear my British friends.

Would not the correct label be North American?

Well? Considering it's broken down to North, Central and South.....

I'm pretty sure "Central America" is part of North America....If you're talking about contienents, whatever...I mean, you could also use Latin America, or Anglo-America...

That's just it. We don't have a problem with you calling yourselves Americans. We have a problem with you calling us Usians.
No Canadian of sound mind would ever refer to themselves or their fellowmen as American.

You USians are a prickly bunch.

No Canadian of sound mind would ever refer to themselves or their fellowmen as American.

You USians are a prickly bunch.

Apparently that's not true for those for Brazil.

I'm pretty sure "Central America" is part of North America....If you're talking about contienents, whatever...I mean, you could also use Latin America, or Anglo-America...

Ahh but historically the North part isn't all Anglos. I am sure Indians like Sine would be offended

Sin: :p

I say we just call everybody Pangeans ;)

No Canadian of sound mind would ever refer to themselves or their fellowmen as American.

You USians are a prickly bunch.
Yes, we are. But then, we're an odd duck in the world, considering our origins.

Okay, then, UK is very common usage, shall I start saying UKians? While we're at it we can start referring to people of all nationalities by abbreviations of their nations' formal titles. That would be the logical next step, wouldn't it?
go ahead, no one's stopping you. fair's fair. as for the other countries, they can start being acronymians as soon as the start using the abbreviations only.

you mean like Indians for Native Americans?
Perhaps. And your point would be?

No Canadian of sound mind would ever refer to themselves or their fellowmen as American.

You USians are a prickly bunch.

Ahh my North American cousin. You balance us out.

Perhaps. And your point would be?
lol i think we solved this 5 pages ago.

Ahh my North American cousin. You balance us out.
How so, TBF?

How so, TBF?

We are prickly and you are soft! :D :p

That is better. But I appear to have missed where you gave these clear explanations to which you refer. I've mainly see you claim the term is offensive because it is intended as an insult, but you don't back that up.

You've also made some rather ridiculous and historically inaccurate claims about "American" referring exclusively to US citizens.

I'd genuinely like to expand on why the term is offensive and/or what evidence you have that it is intended to offend.

I've already made clear I prefer Americans, but I see USians as more annoying than insulting. The reasons for your deeper feelings is unclear to me.
Ok. Fair enough. Let's talk like reasonable people.

I already said that I was wrong about some of the uses of the term America. I long ago realized that it refers to two continents: North and South America. The term "USian" is used almost exclusively on here by those who have repeatedly demonstrated their contempt for my Country, so perhaps you'll forgive me for being very skeptical about their avowed reasons for using it.

I realize that some on here deliberately use the term to try and irritate Americans, but I actually can't help that it does so with me. In retrospect, I should have simply avoided even posting on this thread, but that's obviously no longer an option.

What else?

We are prickly and you are soft! :D :p
We are, indeed. Kitten-y soft. Like expensive toilet paper.

We are prickly and you are soft! :D :p
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No. ...Just...no.

I am with Eut on this one. I don't reply to people who use the term USian either. Same as I don't reply to people who call me a prarie ******. I find it exactly the same- a derrogatory slur.
Thank you!

Like it or not, the term 'USian' isn't gonna go away. Best you make your peace with it, and just move on. Eutrusca.

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No. ...Just...no.
Nah, TBF is right. We are soft. Delightfully so.

And I wouldn't have it any other way, thanks all the same.

CAT-TRIBE!

See?? I'm not the only one who feels this way!


Saying "USian" to some Americans is like calling a black person a "******", a American Indian a "prarie ******" etc. It is a derrogatory term- one invented by foreigners, used as an insult, and a term you are trying to replace our proper name with. Many Americans take it as a direct insult- as if "you people" think your name for us is better than our own. You think the people who first called slaves "niggers" didn't say "well, a lot of them are from the area around the Niger river, so the term is more accurate!"

It doesn't matter if you personally don't see it as insulting- we do, and the people who most advocate using the term are vocally anti-american.

Nah, TBF is right. We are soft. Delightfully so.

And I wouldn't have it any other way, thanks all the same.
Oh, I don't doubt you are soft. I just object to being called prickly. I am not prickly.

'USian' doesn't even come close to being compared to a word like, '******'. Give it a rest...

...Eutrusca.

Eut. why does the term USian offend you?

Some of the reasons *I* find Usians/USians/USAians insulting.

~It is the result of an offhand gesture, meaning that absolutely no thought went into it. No other country has its people referred to by an acronym, and I'm sure that they would be equally offended if they were.

~It has its basis in a language different from the primary language spoken in the country. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. When speaking in English, use English names. Don't make literal translations.

~Its not creative at all. At least give us a nickname that wasn't pulled out of your tail. Preferably with an English background/history. I would tolerate Yankee over Usian, despite me being a Texan.
Jeeze! Where were you guys when half the anti-Americans on General were castigating me on here???

Anyway, thanks for the support regardless of how belated. :)

Tell me, why should we change our name just because you can't decide what to call us?
For god's sake, its in our f*cking anthem
[quote]And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm freeeeee[/endquote]

Nah, TBF is right. We are soft. Delightfully so.

And I wouldn't have it any other way, thanks all the same.

I plan to find out if this includes your females. ^_^

Yeah, On-topic...Homonyms and all that stuff.

Ok. Fair enough. Let's talk like reasonable people.

I already said that I was wrong about some of the uses of the term America. I long ago realized that it refers to two continents: North and South America. The term "USian" is used almost exclusively on here by those who have repeatedly demonstrated their contempt for my Country, so perhaps you'll forgive me for being very skeptical about their avowed reasons for using it.

I realize that some on here deliberately use the term to try and irritate Americans, but I actually can't help that it does so with me. In retrospect, I should have simply avoided even posting on this thread, but that's obviously no longer an option.

What else?
I love the US and all USians, except the jerk ones. and i honestly dislike the lack of specificity in United States of America, it sounds to me like a continental empire, not a single country. then again, i'm used to referring to animals by their scientific binomial names. given though that USA stands, i've no problem saying american.

I just now came here ^^;

Well, how about how USians used to refer to citizens of the United Soviet Socialist Republics as 'Russkies' for the bulk of the 20th century? None of you ever bitched about that misnomer.

Cry me a fuckin' river, grampa.

You are most welcome. I was under the paranoid delusion that you were snubbing me. (Sorry for leaping to conclusions.)
Not a problem. But perhaps you have been hanging around on General too long if you find yourself leaping to conclusions. :D

First of all, I am not an USian, I am an American.

Fass, please tell me all Canadians (or Americans that live in Canada, whichever you prefer) are not like you. I always liked the Canadians.

I'm proud to be an USian..... nope, it just doesn't fit.

Tell me, why should we change our name just because you can't decide what to call us?
For god's sake, its in our f*cking anthem
And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm freeeeee[/endquote]



Been a while since you've heard the Star Spangled Banner has it?

Tell me, why should we change our name just because you can't decide what to call us?
For god's sake, its in our f*cking anthem
[quote]And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm freeeeee[/endquote]
what the hell anthem are you singing?

perhaps you have been hanging around on General too long if you find yourself leaping to conclusions. :D
or leaping to being offended by an acronym.

First of all, I am not an USian, I am an American.

Fass, please tell me all Canadians (or Americans that live in Canada, whichever you prefer) are not like you. I always liked the Canadians.

I'm proud to be an USian..... nope, it just doesn't fit.

Fass is Svedonic - you can't dislike all Svedos just because one of them says somethign you don't like right?

I'm a proud USian btw :p

I love how you use a famous part of USian history to back up your argument. I am sure if you went back and asked the slaves what their biggest issue was, it would not be over a debate on the shared usage of their "proper name."

To use your argument, I'd say by refusing to share the title "American" with the peoples of the Americas, you are acting like a slave owner trying to deminish the importance of the people (to quote the Monroe doctrine) in your "backyard."
Oh for God's sake! Get over this shit, willya??? :headbang:

Originally Posted by AllCoolNamesAreTaken
Saying "USian" to some Americans is like calling a black person a "******", a American Indian a "prarie ******" etc. It is a derrogatory term- one invented by foreigners, used as an insult, and a term you are trying to replace our proper name with. Many Americans take it as a direct insult- as if "you people" think your name for us is better than our own. You think the people who first called slaves "niggers" didn't say "well, a lot of them are from the area around the Niger river, so the term is more accurate!"

It doesn't matter if you personally don't see it as insulting- we do, and the people who most advocate using the term are vocally anti-american.



HAHA!

Whats wrong with you?

The knuckledragger internet-word "USian" is among the most inoffensive things you're likely to hear in your life.

It is not a word of hatred or a word of opression or a word of racism like those others you mentioned, it is something that annoying people say in the hope of being annoying. It is petty more than anything.

It can of course be argued that foreigners speaking english out to speak it correctly, or make an earnest attempt to do so, but to consider it an 'offensive slur' is pathetic.

It gives the impression that you're a thin-skinned no-account whiner and a worm.

Get a life.

Oh for God's sake! Get over this shit, willya??? :headbang:
Quit taking the words out of my mouth, man.

No Canadian of sound mind would ever refer to themselves or their fellowmen as American.

You USians are a prickly bunch.
Then don't. If you Canadians won't call yourselves Americans, what problem do you have calling us that? It really makes no sense.


Like it or not, the term 'USian' isn't gonna go away. Best you make your peace with it, and just move on. Eutrusca.
So you're basically going to call us that whether we like it or not. Wow, sounds like a derogitory name to me.

Then don't. If you Canadians won't call yourselves Americans, what problem do you have calling us that? It really makes no sense.


So you're basically going to call us that whether we like it or not. Wow, sounds like a derogitory name to me.


Stop whining about it, don't be a worm, you'll make the decent people in the US ashamed.

First of all, I am not an USian, I am an American.

Fass, please tell me all Canadians (or Americans that live in Canada, whichever you prefer) are not like you. I always liked the Canadians.

I'm proud to be an USian..... nope, it just doesn't fit.

Sorry to break it to you, but all Canadians are exactly like Fass. We are like a giant robot ice army. Today our mission is to strip USians of their so-called "American" title, and share it with the rest of the Americas. We are like a giant robinhood destined to right the wrongs of history!

or leaping to being offended by an acronym.
An Acronym is US. No one has a problem with their country being called the US. USian is NOT an Acronym. It's a mockery.

Sorry to break it to you, but all Canadians are exactly like Fass. We are like a giant robot ice army. Today our mission is to strip USians of their so-called "American" title, and share it with the rest of the Americas. We are like a giant robinhood destined to right the wrongs of history!


and they all wear some fancy matching tights to go with it.

HOT!

Stop whining about it, don't be a worm, you'll make the decent people in the US ashamed.
Then how about you call us by the name we wish to be referred to as.

Then don't. If you Canadians won't call yourselves Americans, what problem do you have calling us that? It really makes no sense.


So you're basically going to call us that whether we like it or not. Wow, sounds like a derogitory name to me.
it takes more than that to make it derogatory. i don't like all kinds of things, like when USians assume i live in an igloo and snowshoe to work all day. I've never said to a USian that I'm from Canada without being assaulted by a barrage of 'ehs'. i get over it, you will too.

There are actually slurs against americans, you know.

Ever heard "Yankee go home" ?

"Murka Murka" ?

That one makes fun of american accents that make the people who speak them sound stupid.

A good deal more offensive than something like "USian."

Grow up

[QUOTE=Lunaen]Tell me, why should we change our name just because you can't decide what to call us?
For god's sake, its in our f*cking anthem
[I]
what the hell anthem are you singing?
Ah Hell, I know it's one of those patriotic songs. I don't really care if its the anthem or not :D

Then don't. If you Canadians won't call yourselves Americans, what problem do you have calling us that? It really makes no sense.
Sure it does. You just can't see it from anyone else's point-of-view, is all.

So you're basically going to call us that whether we like it or not.So, basically I will. Wow, sounds like a derogitory name to me.
Tough-o. You're big enough to take it. Hell's Bells, it's not like I'm calling you all 'Republicans' or 'Fascists' or something equally distasteful.

Get over your burdgeoning sense of victimhood. You've already maxed out your entitlement from the rest of the planet's point of view.

In short: cope with it, people.

In normal conversation you usually call China China, not the People's Republic of China. You don't call the chinease PRCian.

Why is it different with the U.S.? Plus, there is no other country that has "America" as a mojor noun in its name.

Then how about you call us by the name we wish to be referred to as.
henceforth, i wish to be referred to as, "Your Most Holy Katurkish Majesty". I shall be upset and whiney until you do so.

HAHA!

Whats wrong with you?

The knuckledragger internet-word "USian" is among the most inoffensive things you're likely to hear in your life.

It is not a word of hatred or a word of opression or a word of racism like those others you mentioned, it is something that annoying people say in the hope of being annoying. It is petty more than anything.

It can of course be argued that foreigners speaking english out to speak it correctly, or make an earnest attempt to do so, but to consider it an 'offensive slur' is pathetic.

It gives the impression that you're a thin-skinned no-account whiner and a worm.

Get a life.

Actually as a USian who thought he came up with the term, no I dont do it to annoy or give offense. I just like making up words and using them. SO obviously the reasons aren't always so black and white.

Thanks for calling me a knuckledragger though. :fluffle:

it takes more than that to make it derogatory. i don't like all kinds of things, like when USians assume i live in an igloo and snowshoe to work all day. I've never said to a USian that I'm from Canada without being assaulted by a barrage of 'ehs'. i get over it, you will too.
The stupidity of some people doesn't mean that the favor has to be returned. And no, I refuse to get over it. I am an American, and I will be called such.

it takes more than that to make it derogatory. i don't like all kinds of things, like when USians assume i live in an igloo and snowshoe to work all day. I've never said to a USian that I'm from Canada without being assaulted by a barrage of 'ehs'. i get over it, you will too.

I say 'eh' a lot and from the US...Then again, I'm in Michigan...I know that because half my change is Canadian....Geez, keep track of your coins people!

Because you're an argumentive old man who has nothing better to do than harrass all manners of people on a forum centered around political debate?
Typical. Nice flame. Have anything of actual substance to contribue, instead of using the eqivalent of calling me a "worthless ******?"

and they all wear some fancy matching tights to go with it.

HOT!

Robots do not wear tights.

Then how about you call us by the name we wish to be referred to as.


Who?

Pay attention and stop whining, you're making me ashamed to live in the same country as you.

People whining about "USian" winning WW2? HAHA.

Thank god we didnt have these kind of whiners around back then, or the point would now be moot!

In normal conversation you usually call China China, not the People's Republic of China. You don't call the chinease PRCian.

Why is it different with the U.S.? Plus, there is no other country that has "America" as a mojor noun in its name.
no, but there's two continents that do. and why would would say PRCian if PRC isn't used in common speak? think about it.

henceforth, i wish to be referred to as, "Your Most Holy Katurkish Majesty". I shall be upset and whiney until you do so.
Well, seeing as I've never referred to you at all, that won't be a problem.

Actually as a USian who thought he came up with the term, no I dont do it to annoy or give offense. I just like making up words and using them. SO obviously the reasons aren't always so black and white.

Thanks for calling me a knuckledragger though. :fluffle:


People who use words like "USian" are knuckledraggers, you're welcome.

Fass is Svedonic - you can't dislike all Svedos just because one of them says somethign you don't like right?

I'm a proud USian btw :p

Sorry, I read the wrong location. If Fass is just complaining about us wanting to be called Americans because we don't call Sweden Svedon (I'm not sure that spelling is right), I would be more than happy to call Sweden or Svedon whatever they want to be called.

no, but there's two continents that do. and why would would say PRCian if PRC isn't used in common speak? think about it.

Taiwan is called The Republic of China. Plus, USain isn't used in common speak either.

Who?

Pay attention and stop whining, you're making me ashamed to live in the same country as you.

People whining about "USian" winning WW2? HAHA.

Thank god we didnt have these kind of whiners around back then, or the point would now be moot!

The sentiment is returned.

no, but there's two continents that do.

And luckily most people have neough comprehension skills to tell what someone means when they use the word "American". Seriously, how do you people survive if someone uses the word "leaves"?

Taiwan is called The Republic of China. Plus, USain isn't used in common speak either.
of course it isn't. US is. thus my point. USian = individual from US.

Taiwan is called The Republic of China. Plus, USain isn't used in common speak either.


And more to the point, adding morphemic suffixes to initialisms isnt a method of word formation in english.

Typical. Nice flame. Have anything of actual substance to contribue, instead of using the eqivalent of calling me a "worthless ******?"
But Truss, you ARE an argumentative old man who harrasses all manner of people on political forums. An argumentative old man, in serious need of a thorough reality-check... an argumentative old man who I suspect has major issues with maintaining an illusory national self-image.

And luckily most people have neough comprehension skills to tell what someone means when they use the word "American". Seriously, how do you people survive if someone uses the word "leaves"?
that's why we say the Maple Leafs, so we can't get confused.

And luckily most people have neough comprehension skills to tell what someone means when they use the word "American". Seriously, how do you people survive if someone uses the word "leaves"?
Tear or Tear?

Red, Read, Read or Reed?

And more to the point, adding morphemic suffixes to initialisms isnt a method of word formation in english.
word formation in english is the most sloppy of any. colloquialisms become real faster than you can say, "morphemic suffixes to initialisms".

that's why we say the Maple Leafs, so we can't get confused.

Uh-huh...and I assume you came up with two seperate words for things like "cleave" as well?

word formation in english is the most sloppy of any. colloquialisms become real faster than you can say, "morphemic suffixes to initialisms".


Can you think of any examples of words formed by adding suffixes to initialisms?

word formation in english is the most sloppy of any. colloquialisms become real faster than you can say, "morphemic suffixes to initialisms".

It's a barely constrained beast the language is...But, constrained none the less.

Can you think of any examples of words formed by adding suffixes to initialisms?

Unabomber?

Can you think of any examples of words formed by adding suffixes to initialisms?
Sure.

'NSer.'

HAH!

lol i think we solved this 5 pages ago.
Heh! I've been struggling to keep up for most of this thread! Sorry to have been redundant.

Can you think of any examples of words formed by adding suffixes to initialisms?
USian

Tell me, why should we change our name just because you can't decide what to call us?
For god's sake, its in our f*cking anthem
[quote]And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm freeeeee[/endquote]
that's not our national anthem :p
the star spangled banner is: "O say can you see by the dawns early light. What so proudly we hailed at the twilights last gleaming. Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight. O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming. And the rockets red glare, and the bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night that our flag was still there. O say, does that star spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave."

http://www.bcpl.net/~etowner/anthem.mid

It's testimony to the enduring qualities that make our nation great and why our government has never fallen to a coup or a rebellion. No one has ever sought to overthrow the US government which most other nations can't say for their own.
Nor have we ever been defeated on our own soil. (or in latin america and europe for that matter).

[QUOTE=Lunaen]Tell me, why should we change our name just because you can't decide what to call us?
For god's sake, its in our f*cking anthem
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that's not our national anthem :p
the star spangled banner is: "O say can you see by the dawns early light. What so proudly we hailed at the twilights last gleaming. Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight. O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming. And the rockets red glare, and the bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night that our flag was still there. O say, does that star spangled banner yet wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave."

http://www.bcpl.net/~etowner/anthem.mid

It's testimony to the enduring qualities that make our nation great and why our government has never fallen to a coup or a rebellion. No one has ever sought to overthrow the US government which most other nations can't say for their own.
Nor have we ever been defeated on our own soil. (or in latin america and europe for that matter).

Aaron Burr sought to overthrow the US government. And the British did take our Capital once.

Sure.

'NSer.'

HAH!



I suppose KO'd might work as well.


I certainly concede that "USian" is NS jargon, much like NSer.

This said, internet jargon is loathsome, so its still very much a knuckledragger word.

Can you think of any examples of words formed by adding suffixes to initialisms?
And, in Canada,

'NDPer'.

Double-HAH!

I suppose KO'd might work as well.


I certainly concede that "USian" is NS jargon, much like NSer.

This said, internet jargon is loathsome, so its still very much a knuckledragger word.
agreed. especially msn jargon.

Unabomber?


Where is the initialism?

What does UNA stand for, and is "bomber" an affixed morpheme?

And, in Canada,

'NDPer'.

Double-HAH!


Any words formed with the /-ian/ morpheme?

I suppose KO'd might work as well.


I certainly concede that "USian" is NS jargon, much like NSer.

This said, internet jargon is loathsome, so its still very much a knuckledragger word.
Yeah, well...

Just so long as people get over this 'worthless ******' red herring certain NSers on this thread seem Hell-bent on promulgating.

Yeah, well...

Just so long as people get over this 'worthless ******' red herring certain NSers on this thread seem Hell-bent on promulgating.

Replies to that sort of crybabies should always just be aimed at calling them crybabies.


"USian" doesnt degrade the person who is addressed by it, it degrades the person who says it.

Why none of the crybabies understand this is a mystery.

Polite citizens of the United States will call themselves USians in an international setting. It is true, I've seen it. My university had a USian club where US students would talk about baseball and illegal immigrants.

Any words formed with the /-ian/ morpheme?
how about all words ending in -ism? like an NDPism.

Where is the initialism?

What does UNA stand for, and is "bomber" an affixed morpheme?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Kaczynski

Before his identity was known, the FBI referred to him as the UNABOM (from "university and airline bomber"). Variants of the code name appeared when the media started using the codename, including Unabomer, Unibomber, and Unabomber.

Well, how about how USians used to refer to citizens of the United Soviet Socialist Republics as 'Russkies' for the bulk of the 20th century? None of you ever bitched about that misnomer.

Cry me a fuckin' river, grampa.
How ... insipid. Nice resort to the modern equivalent of "******."

Polite citizens of the United States will call themselves USians in an international setting. It is true, I've seen it. My university had a USian club where US students would talk about baseball and illegal immigrants.
the US's two national pastimes?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Kaczynski
Before his identity was known, the FBI referred to him as the UNABOM (from "university and airline bomber"). Variants of the code name appeared when the media started using the codename, including Unabomer, Unibomber, and Unabomber.




That isnt an initialism with an affixed morpheme like "USian."

How ... insipid. Nice resort to the modern equivalent of "******."

Too many teardrops for one heart to be cryin'
Too many teardrops for one heart
To carry on
You're gonna cry ninety-six tears
You're gonna cry ninety-six tears
You're gonna cry cry, cry, cry, now
You're gonna cry cry, cry, cry
Ninety-six tears c'mon and lemme hear you cry, now
Ninety-six tears (whoo!) I wanna hear you cry
Night and day, yeah, all night long
Uh-ninety-six tears cry cry cry
C'mon baby, let me hear you cry now, all night long
Uh-ninety-six tears! Yeah! C'mon now
Uh-ninety-six tears!

Whats wrong with you?

The knuckledragger internet-word "USian" is among the most inoffensive things you're likely to hear in your life.

It is not a word of hatred or a word of opression or a word of racism like those others you mentioned, it is something that annoying people say in the hope of being annoying. It is petty more than anything.

It can of course be argued that foreigners speaking english out to speak it correctly, or make an earnest attempt to do so, but to consider it an 'offensive slur' is pathetic.

It gives the impression that you're a thin-skinned no-account whiner and a worm.

Get a life.
Take your own advice, flamer.

That isnt an initialism with an affixed morpheme like "USian."

It's not? Can you define "intialism" and "morpheme" for me then?

An Acronym is US. No one has a problem with their country being called the US. USian is NOT an Acronym. It's a mockery.
Exactly.

How ... insipid. Nice resort to the modern equivalent of "******."

Quit trivializing the word "******." It has a particularly nasty history. I assume I don't need to remind you of that history.

USian, old man, grandpa, etc, are not within the same league as "******."

That you would seek to equate them is truly pathetic.

In my opinion, American refers to the people of the country, North American refers to the people of the continent of North America, and South American refers to the people of the continent of South America.

I try to call people of other countries what they want to be called, so I would also like the same treatment.

Then how about you call us by the name we wish to be referred to as.
But ... then they would have to develop common courtesy! Isn't that asking far too much of the mentally incompetent??

How ... insipid. Nice resort to the modern equivalent of "******."

The modern equivalent of ******?

I live around several exchange students, as well as speak to people from all over the world. When I asked them 'What do they first think of when I say America', not ONE assumed I was talking about the Americas. Yes, the Americas. That's because America (and American when talking about its people) tends to draw the conclusion that one is referring to the United States. When one says the Americas, they think about the American Bicontinent.

It's not? Can you define "intialism" and "morpheme" for me then?
initialism is an acronym... using the initials. morpheme is the smallest part of the word. i'd say unabomber works, but i think he's looking for a unabomberian.

The way I see it, as a citizen of the United States of America, I can call myself an American. After all, living in North America, I do fall into that category. That does not mean that I think that people who live in countries in North and South America other than the United States can't call themselves Americans.
I don't particularly like the term "USian," but I am not particularly offended by its use, either.

Sure it does. You just can't see it from anyone else's point-of-view, is all.

So, basically I will.
Tough-o. You're big enough to take it. Hell's Bells, it's not like I'm calling you all 'Republicans' or 'Fascists' or something equally distasteful.

Get over your burdgeoning sense of victimhood. You've already maxed out your entitlement from the rest of the planet's point of view.

In short: cope with it, people.
Go away, little boy. This is for big people who can actually converse. :p

The stupidity of some people doesn't mean that the favor has to be returned. And no, I refuse to get over it. I am an American, and I will be called such.
Hehehe! SIC 'em! :D

Go away, little boy. This is for big people who can actually converse. :p
fighting fire with fire? :p doesn't cover up for you.

Polite citizens of the United States will call themselves USians in an international setting. It is true, I've seen it. My university had a USian club where US students would talk about baseball and illegal immigrants.

Sorry never heard of it till here.

Universities usually list their clubs on the sites so whats the link to yours.....

It's not? Can you define "intialism" and "morpheme" for me then?

Sure, an initialism is formed by saying the names of the letters that make up the initials of a group of words.

Examples are "CIA" "NSA" "FBI" and "US."

This is technically not the same as an acronym, which is made up of the initial letters of a group of words but is read as though it were itself a word.

Examples are "NASA" "FEMA" "OSHA" and "MADD"

A morpheme is generally a non-word which is attatched to words to change their meaning, usually in terms of their role in grammar.

Examples are America > american (america + /an/)

Build, building, builder, builds

(Build + /ing/) can indicate a progressive verb or a noun, (build + /er/) indicates a person who builds, /build + s/ indicates that the verb is conjugated in the third person.

How ... insipid. Nice resort to the modern equivalent of "******."
Tell you what:

How about you come on up to my summer cottage, where I'll work you to the bone, feed you a bowl of gruel once a day, and chain you to your sleeping cot in the lean-to I'll erect behind the outhouse, before selling you off to the highest bidder.

Then you can say that 'USian' is the modern equivalent of '******'.

I'd sooner be insipid than publicly wallow in fatuous misery.

Who?

Pay attention and stop whining, you're making me ashamed to live in the same country as you.

People whining about "USian" winning WW2? HAHA.

Thank god we didnt have these kind of whiners around back then, or the point would now be moot!
Well, considering you're such a hands-on authority on the American military, why don't you tell us about your service to your Country? Hmmm??

Well, considering you're such a hands-on authority on the American military, why don't you tell us about your service to your Country? Hmmm??
And considering you're such a hands-on authority on what it means to be a '******', why don't you tell us all about your time in the fields, picking cotton?

Hmmmmm?

Well, considering you're such a hands-on authority on the American military, why don't you tell us about your service to your Country? Hmmm??

I know this lesson:
"Choose your battles."

Stop whining eutrusca. Stop idle, worthless, annoying complaining.


Thank god people who would whine about something like "USian" werent fighting germany in WW2. The point would be moot.

Well, considering you're such a hands-on authority on the American military, why don't you tell us about your service to your Country? Hmmm??

Your need to resort to such ad hominems is telling.

I know this lesson:
"Choose your battles."

Stop whining eutrusca. Stop idle, worthless, annoying complaining.


Thank god people who would whine about something like "USian" werent fighting germany in WW2. The point would be moot.
soldiers don't choose their battles. likewise, eutrusca did not choose this battle, he is Fighting the Good Fight.

soldiers don't choose their battles. likewise, eutrusca did not choose this battle, he is Fighting the Good Fight.


Soldiers dont plan the campaings that win wars either, people who choose battles do.

Whining about "USian" and dragging himself and the country through the mud isnt the Good Fight.

I know this lesson:
"Choose your battles."

Stop whining eutrusca. Stop idle, worthless, annoying complaining.


Thank god people who would whine about something like "USian" werent fighting germany in WW2. The point would be moot.
Thank God that the people who spoke to the American troops in English didn't call them USians.

Soldiers dont plan the campaings that win wars either, people who choose battles do.

Whining about "USian" and dragging himself and the country through the mud isnt the Good Fight.
Hear, hear.

Thank God that the people who spoke to the American troops in English didn't call them USians.
why?

"You're liberated!"
"Thankyou USians!"
"Ok, back to the Nazis for you, you anti-Americans, you."

Thank God that the people who spoke to the American troops in English didn't call them USians.


Too many teardrops for one heart to be cryin'
Too many teardrops for one heart
To carry on
You're gonna cry ninety-six tears
You're gonna cry ninety-six tears
You're gonna cry cry, cry, cry, now
You're gonna cry cry, cry, cry
Ninety-six tears c'mon and lemme hear you cry, now
Ninety-six tears (whoo!) I wanna hear you cry
Night and day, yeah, all night long
Uh-ninety-six tears cry cry cry
C'mon baby, let me hear you cry now, all night long
Uh-ninety-six tears! Yeah! C'mon now
Uh-ninety-six tears!

Wow...a peek in...close to 80 pages and Eut is still insulting everyone that moves? He hasn't been modsmacked yet? I'm amazed.

why?

"You're liberated!"
"Thankyou USians!"
"Ok, back to the Nazis for you, you anti-Americans, you."
As far as I'm concerned, it's far more difficult to say United Statians than Americans. I doubt that soldiers were in the practice of shortening names, especially when talking to the other nationalities.

It's already apparent that a lot of you are using 'USian' because it makes some of us upset.

Wow! In fact, Eut has gone and complained that Dobbs flamed him. Someone with more time that I should make a list of every single one of his insulting, flaming posts in this thread and demonstrate that once again, when substance is lacking, insults fill the void...

i have decided, in light of previous arguments, to now refer to myself as from DC, Dominion of Canada. Hopefully no ones gets confused with Washington, DC.

Wow...a peek in...close to 80 pages and Eut is still insulting everyone that moves? He hasn't been modsmacked yet? I'm amazed.

Eutrusca is apparently allowed more leeway with the rules than everyone else. Anyone ever claiming a liberal bias in the moderation need only look towards Eutrusca.

As the most powerful and kick as nation on the face of the planet, and the greatest people to ever walk on this world, we have the right to cal ourselves whatever we fucking please. Your just bitter becuase we probably kicked your countries ass at some point in time. go cry and morn and shout in vengence and claim a jihad if you want. Your words and vows mean nothing in the face of sheer brutal firepower. Now go beg for mercy at the nearest US embassy.:)

Quit trivializing the word "******." It has a particularly nasty history. I assume I don't need to remind you of that history.

USian, old man, grandpa, etc, are not within the same league as "******."

That you would seek to equate them is truly pathetic.
Not at all. The older American has become the new "******," with the proviso that it's ok because "they're just old."

As the most powerful and kick as nation on the face of the planet, and the greatest people to ever walk on this world, we have the right to cal ourselves whatever we fucking please. Your just bitter becuase we probably kicked your countries ass at some point in time. go cry and morn and shout in vengence and claim a jihad if you want. Your words and vows mean nothing in the face of sheer brutal firepower. Now go beg for mercy at the nearest US embassy.:)
i'm not mad. We of the DC burned down the White House after all.

This thread has run its course.