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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1614995/posts

After reading that, I'm convinced that the best is over, and that the West is near the end of it's era.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1614995/posts

After reading that, I'm convinced that the best is over, and that the West is near the end of it's era.

You're correct. At least it's not bad here...

Maybe for Oslo, but bear in mind that the media will always exaggerate it for a good story.

If you want to cheer up you can look at actual crime statistics and see that in most first world or "Western" countries murder rates are now lower than in the past.

If you want to cheer up you can look at actual crime statistics and see that in most first world or "Western" countries murder rates are now lower than in the past.

Murder isn't what bothers me.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1614995/posts

After reading that, I'm convinced that the best is over, and that the West is near the end of it's era.
Wow. Remind me to stay away from the Norwegian border when I'm up in Finland...

That seems to be only a small number of youths, it's hardly representative of all of western society.

One a lighter note, isn't it funny when news services make typos?
Schoolchildren’s are threatened with death, robbed and assaulted.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1614995/posts

After reading that, I'm convinced that the best is over, and that the West is near the end of it's era.
And you all say that America has bad crime.

And you all say that America has bad crime.

I'm pretty sure you said that too, something about not wanting to get a bus to see a priest(or something) because you'd be a target for child molesters.

As disgusting as this is, I'm not in the slightest bit surprised. What especially doesn't surprise me that it's people like Somalians and Moroccans. If you let these kinds of people into your country then this is inevitabley what will happen. It's ridiculous that these kinds of people are still let into western countries. The sentences given were pitiful as well, they should have been castrated and hanged.

I'm pretty sure you said that too, something about not wanting to get a bus to see a priest(or something) because you'd be a target for child molesters.
That thread is dead and gone. Leave it alone please. And believe me, it is. But at least we have a relatively good and tyranical police force. Those guys in Sweden probably don't have anything. Besides maybe one guy for every ten square miles and who only carries a night stick.

As disgusting as this is, I'm not in the slightest bit surprised. What especially doesn't surprise me that it's people like Somalians and Moroccans. If you let these kinds of people into your country then this is inevitabley what will happen. It's ridiculous that these kinds of people are still let into western countries. The sentences given were pitiful as well, they should have been castrated and hanged.

Lol, racism.

Lol, racism.
Nothing racist about it, just stating facts. This kind of thing seems to be typical in places with muslim immigrants. Rape seems to be a central part of muslim culture.

Nothing racist about it, just stating facts. This kind of thing seems to be typical in places with muslim immigrants. Rape seems to be a central part of muslim culture.

That is racist man, uncool.

The West is actually doing better now then it was 10 years ago!

That thread is dead and gone. Leave it alone please. And believe me, it is. But at least we have a relatively good and tyranical police force. Those guys in Sweden probably don't have anything. Besides maybe one guy for every ten square miles and who only carries a night stick.

It's all coming back to bite you in the ass, mwahahaha
*remembers little else of that thread ;) *

Actualy Sweden has one police officer for every 0.0358km^2
http://www.polisen.se/inter/mediacache//1539/1892/Facts.jpg
Sweden — Area: 450,000 SQ KM (175,500 SQ MI)

KP, please do me a favour and do some research on Norway. If anything, it shows that the West is ascendent and not decaying. Isolated instances like this do not mean much in a larger context.

Murder isn't what bothers me.

Yeah, it's foreigners.

Nothing racist about it, just stating facts. This kind of thing seems to be typical in places with muslim immigrants. Rape seems to be a central part of muslim culture.

You never mentioned mulsims, you said Somalians and Moroccans. I stand by my statement.

Oh, and a source for your facts?

Officers and staff are a little different. >.> Those are also only women lol!

That is racist man, uncool.

The West is actually doing better now then it was 10 years ago!
Not so much racist as phobic of other religions...

Not so much racist as phobic of other religions...

I was refering to his other comment about people by where they are from. His religion thing is just as bad though to.

Yeah, it's foreigners.

Ding, ding, ding! You win the thread, because, well, you hit the nail on the head with that one. That's exactly what bothers the OP. That's what's always bothered the OP.

I myself will be visiting Oslo soon. Hope it's not too dishevelled by the time I get there. Last time was a hoot.

Officers and staff are a little different. >.> Those are also only women lol!
I know, I used the number of police staff. One assums that police staff refers to officers as there is civil staff mentioned below. And it was translated from Swedish.

I was refering to his other comment about people by where they are from. His religion thing is just as bad though to.
I agree that a high standard should exist when it comes to admitting immigrants into a country, yet discriminating purely on the basis of religion/race etc. is by no means an acceptable mode of doing so.

so if this kind of thing happens in london, its par for the course but if it happens in OSLO, well then, its the end of civlization as we know it!

crime isnt new.

That is racist man, uncool.

The West is actually doing better now then it was 10 years ago!
Yes, aren't we all doing so much better by letting our cities be colonised by rapist vermin and giving them pathetic sentences when they're caught? What a utopia we've created.

You never mentioned mulsims, you said Somalians and Moroccans. I stand by my statement.

Oh, and a source for your facts?
If they're from Morocco or Somalia they're going to muslims as almost everyone in those countries is a muslim. Immigrants from pretty much any muslim countries seem to specialise in this kind of behaviour. As for a source, would you need a source if I said the sky was blue? It's pretty plain to see I think. The only reason those sources on ethnic and religious crime statistics aren't there is because of political cowardice.

Yay! Let's all take the actions of a very few and consider them to be the actions of an entire religion/ethynic group, and then start deciding that the entire Western Civilisation is going to be destroyed!

Wait...wait...something's coming back. I think there were people who did this before. They too were xenophobic, racists and called for eugenics. Now then, I remember they started with an 'N', but I can't reember the rest...

I know, I used the number of police staff. One assums that police staff refers to officers as there is civil staff mentioned below. And it was translated from Swedish.

How many officers they have!? By my scale its alot more then 20,000!

Nothing racist about it, just stating facts. This kind of thing seems to be typical in places with muslim immigrants. Rape seems to be a central part of muslim culture.

Yes, that would be borne out by the fact that western places like the US have fewer rapes per capita than Muslim places like, Turkey.

Oh wait its not (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_rap_percap)!

Turns out the US is 9th for highest rapes per capita, while Turkey is 53. Qatar is 57, Saudi Arabia is 65th.

If you're going to state "facts," you may want to include some, ya know, FACTS.

I agree that a high standard should exist when it comes to admitting immigrants into a country, yet discriminating purely on the basis of religion/race etc. is by no means an acceptable mode of doing so.

Yep, I really hate people like that, chances are he's in a Western Society still and he's part of the reason why it is falling apart if so!

Yay! Let's all take the actions of a very few and consider them to be the actions of an entire religion/ethynic group, and then start deciding that the entire Western Civilisation is going to be destroyed!

Wait...wait...something's coming back. I think there were people who did this before. They too were xenophobic, racists and called for eugenics. Now then, I remember they started with an 'N', but I can't reember the rest...

...Norwegians? :)

Yay! Let's all take the actions of a very few and consider them to be the actions of an entire religion/ethynic group, and then start deciding that the entire Western Civilisation is going to be destroyed!

Wait...wait...something's coming back. I think there were people who did this before. They too were xenophobic, racists and called for eugenics. Now then, I remember they started with an 'N', but I can't reember the rest...

Nazis.

so if this kind of thing happens in london, its par for the course but if it happens in OSLO, well then, its the end of civlization as we know it!

crime isnt new.

But...but...they're, you know...


Muslims

So that must mean they're all scumbags and rapists and murderers! They couldn't possibly be honest, hardworking citizens just like you and me, misrepresented by a sensaitionalist media and the actions of a few extremists and criminals, now could they?

Yes, that would be borne out by the fact that western places like the US have fewer rapes per capita than Muslim places like, Turkey.

Oh wait its not (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_rap_percap)!

Turns out the US is 9th for highest rapes per capita, while Turkey is 53. Qatar is 57, Saudi Arabia is 65th.

If you're going to state "facts," you may want to include some, ya know, FACTS.
This may be due to the fact that what is considered rape in some countries may not be in others though. Also, it could be that in some of those countries rapes are not routinely reported.

Yes, that would be borne out by the fact that western places like the US have fewer rapes per capita than Muslim places like, Turkey.

Oh wait its not (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_rap_percap)!

Turns out the US is 9th for highest rapes per capita, while Turkey is 53. Qatar is 57, Saudi Arabia is 65th.

If you're going to state "facts," you may want to include some, ya know, FACTS.


Different society, though the thing is you also have women who sell themselves into it and other objects, also its not exactly open either. Rape once is different from repeated endless rape through your dirty purchased women!

You think thats bad! In my town some assholes just destroyed numerous mailboxes. Western Society is doomed because of them.

Yes, aren't we all doing so much better by letting our cities be colonised by rapist vermin and giving them pathetic sentences when they're caught? What a utopia we've created.


If they're from Morocco or Somalia they're going to muslims as almost everyone in those countries is a muslim. Immigrants from pretty much any muslim countries seem to specialise in this kind of behaviour. As for a source, would you need a source if I said the sky was blue? It's pretty plain to see I think. The only reason those sources on ethnic and religious crime statistics aren't there is because of political cowardice.

I say again, Lol, racism.

It isn't obvious to me. A few violent rapists does not mean all muslims are. I don't see why I have to explain that to someone, it's really shocking.

Yep, I really hate people like that, chances are he's in a Western Society still and he's part of the reason why it is falling apart if so!
All too true.

This may be due to the fact that what is considered rape in some countries may not be in others though. Also, it could be that in some of those countries rapes are not routinely reported.

Yes. Among other reasons, many women here saying they were 'raped' would not be taken seriously here. You go outside in a short skirt in a bad part of town....you could get raped and it would be YOUR fault. You do that here, no one really cares too much and rape is uncommon on the street.

This may be due to the fact that what is considered rape in some countries may not be in others though. Also, it could be that in some of those countries rapes are not routinely reported.

Well, theres obviously no such thing as an indisputed fact.

Of course it may ALSO be due to how US women are whiny and over-report false rapes, thus skewing the US's rightful place in the statistic. That door swings both ways.

Yes, that would be borne out by the fact that western places like the US have fewer rapes per capita than Muslim places like, Turkey.

Oh wait its not (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_rap_percap)!

Turns out the US is 9th for highest rapes per capita, while Turkey is 53. Qatar is 57, Saudi Arabia is 65th.

If you're going to state "facts," you may want to include some, ya know, FACTS.
HOLY SHIT. The rates in South Africa are HUGE. Aren't you Brits like, supposed to be CONTROLLING that area?

I say again, Lol, racism.

It isn't obvious to me. A few violent rapists does not mean all muslims are. I don't see why I have to explain that to someone, it's really shocking.
It's senseless profiling based on bigotry.

Ding, ding, ding! You win the thread, because, well, you hit the nail on the head with that one. That's exactly what bothers the OP. That's what's always bothered the OP.

I myself will be visiting Oslo soon. Hope it's not too dishevelled by the time I get there. Last time was a hoot.

It'll be nothing but Somolians and bonfires by the time you get there.

How many officers they have!? By my scale its alot more then 20,000!

We shouldn't get hung up on this, Naltiir mentioned the Swedish police, despite the fact this all took place in Norway. It's the Swedish police force I was talking about.

All too true.

Glad to see you agree with me on it. :)

HOLY SHIT. The rates in South Africa are HUGE. Aren't you Brits like, supposed to be CONTROLLING that area?
Get a clue. :rolleyes:

It'll be nothing but Somolians and bonfires by the time you get there.

Have to send in some Black Hawks.

We shouldn't get hung up on this, Naltiir mentioned the Swedish police, despite the fact this all took place in Norway. It's the Swedish police force I was talking about.

Check your math, one officer per 0.03 KM is just wrong.

Have to send in some Black Hawks.

Make sure they know which way left and right are this time, though...

Yes, that would be borne out by the fact that western places like the US have fewer rapes per capita than Muslim places like, Turkey.

Oh wait its not (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_rap_percap)!

Turns out the US is 9th for highest rapes per capita, while Turkey is 53. Qatar is 57, Saudi Arabia is 65th.

If you're going to state "facts," you may want to include some, ya know, FACTS.
I get the impression that muslim immigrants tend to target non-muslim girls in the western cities they infest. Getting back at the 'infidel sluts' I presume. Which would explain why the rapes per capita in Turkey are lower. Also, those statistics will only be reported rapes. In muslim countries there tends to be a stigma towards women who are raped, they're often considered sluts and sometimes killed by their own families for it. So there's less of an incentive to report it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1614995/posts

After reading that, I'm convinced that the best is over, and that the West is near the end of it's era.
Then quit reading far left ( or far right, for that matter ) idiotic garbage. :p

We shouldn't get hung up on this, Naltiir mentioned the Swedish police, despite the fact this all took place in Norway. It's the Swedish police force I was talking about.
OH CRAP. I did say Sweden. Umm.... Ok then. I suppose the Norwegian police force is probably has one officer for every ten miles squared, and that officer is probably equipped with only a night stick.

Well, theres obviously no such thing as an indisputed fact.

Of course it may ALSO be due to how US women are whiny and over-report false rapes, thus skewing the US's rightful place in the statistic. That door swings both ways.
My point is that there is a good chance that that report may be far from accurate.

HOLY SHIT. The rates in South Africa are HUGE. Aren't you Brits like, supposed to be CONTROLLING that area?

Also they are raping baby girls that are less then a year old for a cure to their HIV and AIDS. X-X Though the British don't own them, they are sovereign.

HOLY SHIT. The rates in South Africa are HUGE. Aren't you Brits like, supposed to be CONTROLLING that area?

The rates in your nation ain't that great either. Also, please never use "like" the way you did ever again.

HOLY SHIT. The rates in South Africa are HUGE. Aren't you Brits like, supposed to be CONTROLLING that area?

What? We left there decades ago, fool. I thought us controlling those areas were what everybody got het up about before?

I stand by my belief that Western society has hit it's peak, and is on it's downward scale. Pity...

HOLY SHIT. The rates in South Africa are HUGE. Aren't you Brits like, supposed to be CONTROLLING that area?

You do know the British Empire fell apart a long time ago, right? All there is now is England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Then quit reading far left ( or far right, for that matter ) idiotic garbage. :p

Considering the number of threads like this he's made before, all of which have been roundly denounced as either false or crap, I'm surprised K-P reads anything other than xenophobic and sensationalist crap like this...

HOLY SHIT. The rates in South Africa are HUGE. Aren't you Brits like, supposed to be CONTROLLING that area?

Of course there are people who then say that ending Apartheid is what causes those rape rates. Who say that its only "political cowardice" that prevents people from pointing out the "fact" that black people are all rapists...

Statistics in the hands of a bigot is like a boy scout in the hands of a pedophile.

I get the impression that muslim immigrants tend to target non-muslim girls in the western cities they infest. Getting back at the 'infidel sluts' I presume. Which would explain why the rapes per capita in Turkey are lower. Also, those statistics will only be reported rapes. In muslim countries there tends to be a stigma towards women who are raped, they're often considered sluts and sometimes killed by their own families for it. So there's less of an incentive to report it.

Indeed. Its because they want you to be a virgin on your wedding night. :p

I stand by my belief that Western society has hit it's peak, and is on it's downward scale. Pity...
Everyone is entitled to her/his opinon, no matter how inaccurate, warped, or just plain stoopid.

I stand by my belief that Western society has hit it's peak, and is on it's downward scale. Pity...

Oh Noes!!!11!! Teh Muslims!!!

It'll be nothing but Somolians and bonfires by the time you get there.

The thing I don't understand is that there is supposed to be something bad about that... right?

You do know the British Empire fell apart a long time ago, right? All there is now is England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Pitcairn Island. How can't you love an Island that recently lost 1/4 or 1/3 of its labour force to sex crimes?

My point is that there is a good chance that that report may be far from accurate.

Maybe so, but its more accurate than Somewhere's biased and ignorant hunches.

I stand by my belief that Western society has hit it's peak, and is on it's downward scale. Pity...

Yet we are continuing to grow and prosper and fix the environment, fix human rights issues and continue an insane growth in technology and business every year?

I stand by my belief that Western society has hit it's peak, and is on it's downward scale. Pity...

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Oh, my Christian God, run! The sky is falling!

Ok, everyone who is explaining the fact that South Africa is no longer part of the British Empire. I UNDERSTAND NOW. No more need to flood me with the same fact. I just thought that Britian still had some colonies. Guess I was wrong.

Pitcairn Island. How can't you love an Island that recently lost 1/4 or 1/3 of its labour force to sex crimes?

Seriously is that true? When!?

Yet we are continuing to grow and prosper and fix the environment, fix human rights issues and continue an insane growth in technology and business every year?

But we're not roudning up all the Muslim immigrants and putting them into concentration...I mean, protection camps and keeping the filth out. Thus, we are obviously failing in our duty as WASPs to remain white and proud!

Heil Deutchland!

Yet we are continuing to grow and prosper and fix the environment, fix human rights issues and continue an insane growth in technology and business every year?

It is meant to come as a surprise ending.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Oh, my Christian God, run! The sky is falling!

Rofl Fass. Don't ever change. :)

Check your math, one officer per 0.03 KM is just wrong.
Ok, it was 16120(the number of police staff) divided by the are of Sweden in square kilometers(450000)
16120/450000=0.035822222222

Meh, I only used the Firefox calculator extension, it could very well be hugely off, or more likely I could have worked it out completely the wrong way.

Seriously is that true? When!?

Happened a 2-3 years ago I think, not sure if I could dig up the link. I think it might have been child related sex crimes too.

But...but...they're, you know...


Muslims

So that must mean they're all scumbags and rapists and murderers! They couldn't possibly be honest, hardworking citizens just like you and me, misrepresented by a sensaitionalist media and the actions of a few extremists and criminals, now could they?
well they could be in new york or london

but NOT IN OSLO!

But we're not roudning up all the Muslim immigrants and putting them into concentration...I mean, protection camps and keeping the filth out. Thus, we are obviously failing in our duty as WASPs to remain white and proud!

Heil Deutchland!

O.O!
We never round them up before, though we do poke fun at them alot!

Yet we are continuing to grow and prosper and fix the environment, fix human rights issues and continue an insane growth in technology and business every year?

And we're all dying out. The West is dying.

The Afro-Muslim era will be next, hopefully I'll be long dead when that one starts...

Rofl Fass. Don't ever change. :)
He could change some things. Like how he feels about certain... Mmm... Groups. Groups which are called cu-----. Mmm... Maybe he should actually perform the act before judging other people who perform it?

Ok, it was 16120(the number of police staff) divided by the are of Sweden in square kilometers(450000)
16120/450000=0.035822222222

Meh, I only used the Firefox calculator extension, it could very well be hugely off, or more likely I could have worked it out completely the wrong way.

Ya, you are dividing 16120 by 450k. The real number is: 27.915632754342431761786600496278

well they could be in new york or london

but NOT IN OSLO!

Oslo is ze new fighting ground! We must fight ze evil Muslims at every opportunity! We must round them up and ill the filthy jews! I mean, uh, Muslims. Yes...Muslims...

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Oh, my Christian God, run! The sky is falling!

I'm not Christian.

Statistics in the hands of a bigot is like a boy scout in the hands of a pedophile.
Translation: we fear the truth.

Yet we are continuing to grow and prosper and fix the environment, fix human rights issues and continue an insane growth in technology and business every year?
The environemt's all well and good. Human rights - for who? And who is benefiting from this growth other than the rich? Meanwhile we're letting our lands be colonised and our cultures destroyed by rapist vermin.

Pitcairn Island. How can't you love an Island that recently lost 1/4 or 1/3 of its labour force to sex crimes?

Never heard of it.

Happened a 2-3 years ago I think, not sure if I could dig up the link. I think it might have been child related sex crimes too.

If you could that would be great. :) I am just shocked!:eek:

And we're all dying out. The West is dying.

The Afro-Muslim era will be next, hopefully I'll be long dead when that one starts...

Wow, didn't know you hated africans as well, KP. What, don't like the thought of black people intermingling with your fine, white skin? The West isn't dying, and Muslims aren't about to wipe us out. It's scum like you who make this stuf more sensationalist and false than it already it.

But then, you already know that.

He could change some things. Like how he feels about certain... Mmm... Groups. Groups which are called cu-----. Mmm... Maybe he should actually perform the act before judging other people who perform it?

Huh? What are you even talking about, I was saying to Fass never to stop being funny.

Never heard of it.

Ever hear of the HMS Bounty?

And we're all dying out. The West is dying.

The Afro-Muslim era will be next, hopefully I'll be long dead when that one starts...

And my how much worse the world will be without the West. No more World Wars, no more firebombing, no more nukes on innocent civilians, no more state sponsored terrorism. Shit, there might not even be any Reality TV!

Them blacks n Muslims r teh evil!

He could change some things. Like how he feels about certain... Mmm... Groups. Groups which are called cu-----. Mmm... Maybe he should actually perform the act before judging other people who perform it?

You are being nonsensical. Spit it out.

Wow, didn't know you hated africans as well, KP. What, don't like the thought of black people intermingling with your fine, white skin? The West isn't dying, and Muslims aren't about to wipe us out. It's scum like you who make this stuf more sensationalist and false than it already it.

But then, you already know that.

Im starting to think he's making his point by example: that people like him are around is a sign of the decadence of the West.

Ya, you are dividing 16120 by 450k. The real number is: 27.915632754342431761786600496278

Oh well, I'm too full of chocolate for proper thought.

Then quit reading far left ( or far right, for that matter ) idiotic garbage. :p

Yep. Just in case there are any naive people out there who still give credence to KP's links the other topics which 'FreeRepublic' discusses are pro-life, illegal immigrants and the 'homosexual agenda'. Bias anyone? ;)

I'm not Christian.

Catholics are Christians, you know...

Translation: we fear the truth.


The environemt's all well and good. Human rights - for who? And who is benefiting from this growth other than the rich?


Well....I am, and I am not rich. Actually with the Clinton Adminstration in America, we gained 4.5 million jobs when he was in power! He also helped fixed the rich-poor divide. Bush hasn't, but the next candidates will. Its not just the rich that are benefitting from it.

The Afro-Muslim era will be next, hopefully I'll be long dead when that one starts...

Indeed, hopefully.

You are being nonsensical. Spit it out.
If I do, well, you're going to start a flame war with me. AGAIN! I do not wish for a flame war to start between me and anyone else.

If you could that would be great. :) I am just shocked!:eek:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3648/is_12_29/ai_n9539570

Happy reading!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3693574.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_sexual_assault_trial_of_2004

Ever hear of the HMS Bounty?
Nope. What happened to her?

Im starting to think he's making his point by example: that people like him are around is a sign of the decadence of the West.

Already mentioned. Though look at the rest of us saying we are not! He's just one insanely leftist thorn in our sides.

Im starting to think he's making his point by example: that people like him are around is a sign of the decadence of the West.

It's scum like him that make this worse. He is an extremist and he promotes fear and irrational hatred. Others who normally wouldn't think like that hear this and eventually come around to that twisted point of view and begin hating as well, hating for absolutely nothing. They start beating up Muslim youths and elders. Then the Muslim extremists see this as a sign that they were right in their twisted views and they gain more supporters. It's an ugly cycle that his kind perpetuate.

Yep. Just in case there are any naive people out there who still give credence to KP's links the other topics which 'FreeRepublic' discusses are pro-life, illegal immigrants and the 'homosexual agenda'. Bias anyone? ;)

Oh, they've got the homosexual agenda down to a T! We are out to get them.

Already mentioned. Though look at the rest of us saying we are not! He's just one insanely leftist thorn in our sides.

Yeah, but then theres Ann Coulter, and everyone who buries their nose in her smelly crotch.

Indeed, hopefully.

Hell yeah. Long live Allah! He's much more of a dude than that straight-laced Christian God!

Nope. What happened to her?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_sexual_assault_trial_of_2004

Oh, they've got the homosexual agenda down to a T! We are out to get them.

There's no T in "homosexual agenda". Silly Fass.

Wow, didn't know you hated africans as well, KP. What, don't like the thought of black people intermingling with your fine, white skin?

Everyone's a little bit racist. I'm just stating fact.

The West isn't dying, and Muslims aren't about to wipe us out. It's scum like you who make this stuf more sensationalist and false than it already it.

Sounds like someone's in denial. I'm just stating the truth. It's just what's happening. I'm sure they had conversations like this 1700 years ago too.

"Brother Octavius! The Roman Empire is in decline! We've lost many a battle, give up much territory and our leaders are become decreasing despotic!

"Don't be racist against the Goths and Vandals, brother Julius!"

If I do, well, you're going to start a flame war with me. AGAIN! I do not wish for a flame war to start between me and anyone else.

Well, then, nobody will understand what you are saying, as usual.

I will not flame if you just explain what "act" it is that I am to do, and what "cu----" people you were talking about.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3648/is_12_29/ai_n9539570

Happy reading!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3693574.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_sexual_assault_trial_of_2004

HOLY CRAP! A 50% rape rate!? Well...when you put a bunch of scum on the island and call it a colony, what do you expect?

There's no T in "homosexual agenda". Silly Fass.

That's what we like you to think. It may be easy to forget, but you're just a common bisexual, aka "sex traitor" or "liar." All is not revealed to you...

Catholics are Christians, you know...

And I'm not Catholic.

If I do, well, you're going to start a flame war with me. AGAIN! I do not wish for a flame war to start between me and anyone else.

Don't be foolish, spit it out so we can watch as Fass tears you to shreds. ;)

Everyone's a little bit racist. I'm just stating fact.



Sounds like someone's in denial. I'm just stating the truth. It's just what's happening. I'm sure they had conversations like this 1700 years ago too.

"Brother Octavius! The Roman Empire is in decline! We've lost many battle, give up much territory and our leaders are become decreasing despotic!

"Don't be racist against the Goths and Vandals, brother Julius!"

How many battles have we lost against the barbarians?

Everyone's a little bit racist. I'm just stating fact.


The first sentence is projecting, the second an outright lie.


Sounds like someone's in denial. I'm just stating the truth. It's just what's happening. I'm sure they had conversations like this 1700 years ago too.

No, you're stating your own stupid opinion and that is that.

That's what we like you to think. It may be easy to forget, but you're just a common bisexual, aka "sex traitor" or "liar." All is not revealed to you...

Man, gay makes you spell things differently, too? Gay is a debilitating disease.

Well....I am, and I am not rich. Actually with the Clinton Adminstration in America, we gained 4.5 million jobs when he was in power! He also helped fixed the rich-poor divide. Bush hasn't, but the next candidates will. Its not just the rich that are benefitting from it.
The trouble is, when all these politicians drone on about all the jobs they've created, what sort of jobs are we talking about? We're not talking about the traditional skilled working class jobs in sectors like heavy industry, jobs which are the cornerstone of a fair and relatively economically equal society. The jobs we're talking about are in things like catering, cleaning, ect. Crap minimum wage jobs. Immigration is another side of this. The worst undesireables get let into our countries to satisfy the greed of capitalism for cheap labour and driving wages down for the those who've always been there.

Everyone's a little bit racist. I'm just stating fact.



Sounds like someone's in denial. I'm just stating the truth. It's just what's happening. I'm sure they had conversations like this 1700 years ago too.

"Brother Octavius! The Roman Empire is in decline! We've lost many battle, give up much territory and our leaders are become decreasing despotic!

"Don't be racist against the Goths and Vandals, brother Julius!"

Uh...when we are carrying the whole damn world on our backs....I think its your third world nations that are on the decline unless they accept the western beliefs. Also...Rome lost because it was tyranny and had weak leaders and a poor lack of communication. We on the otherhand are tyranny by majority and our voices scream at you like a thousand angry seals about to kill you. XD

That's what we like you to think. It may be easy to forget, but you're just a common bisexual, aka "sex traitor" or "liar." All is not revealed to you...

Hey....


You're one 'o dem Queer folk, ain'tcha? You leave us Muslim-hatin', sensationalist scumbags alone, y'hear?

Indeed, hopefully.
LOL! :p

And I'm not Catholic.

Changing your story, are you? What are you today, then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_sexual_assault_trial_of_2004

Ah. That's pretty wierd.

Hey....


You're one 'o dem Queer folk, ain'tcha? You leave us Muslim-hatin', sensationalist scumbags alone, y'hear?

Fass has already discovered happiness. That means he ain't Jewish, or Muslim!

Oslo is ze new fighting ground! We must fight ze evil Muslims at every opportunity! We must round them up and ill the filthy jews! I mean, uh, Muslims. Yes...Muslims...
we have to take a stand SOMEWHERE. they took the holy land, the middle east, north africa, indonesia just........600 years ago!

its obvious to all true <somethings> that we cant let them take OSLO. no, not OSLO. no, just no.

How many battles have we lost against the barbarians?

It can best be put as an analogy to the terrorist bombings in cities that used to be considered safe. In 1985, would you have expected airplanes to be rammed into the WTC?

Changing your story, are you? What are you today, then?

Lessee...he went from Muslim-beating teenager, to a Catholic, to an outright Xenophobic racist. I'm not sure he has any lies left, Fass...

Hey....
You're one 'o dem Queer folk, ain'tcha? You leave us Muslim-hatin', sensationalist scumbags alone, y'hear?

But I like playing with your bags...

It's scum like him that make this worse. He is an extremist and he promotes fear and irrational hatred. Others who normally wouldn't think like that hear this and eventually come around to that twisted point of view and begin hating as well, hating for absolutely nothing. They start beating up Muslim youths and elders. Then the Muslim extremists see this as a sign that they were right in their twisted views and they gain more supporters. It's an ugly cycle that his kind perpetuate.
Easy to criticise, not so easy to propose an actual ... you know, like ... SOLUTION! :p

The trouble is, when all these politicians drone on about all the jobs they've created, what sort of jobs are we talking about? We're not talking about the traditional skilled working class jobs in sectors like heavy industry, jobs which are the cornerstone of a fair and relatively economically equal society. The jobs we're talking about are in things like catering, cleaning, ect. Crap minimum wage jobs. Immigration is another side of this. The worst undesireables get let into our countries to satisfy the greed of capitalism for cheap labour and driving wages down for the those who've always been there.

Don't you have a BNP rally to attend or something?

Maybe burn some books? Make up lists of "undesireables" for later elimination?

Changing your story, are you? What are you today, then?

I... never said that I was Catholic, stooge. If I did, it's because I'm technically Catholic, due to what my parents put on the census.

Man, gay makes you spell things differently, too?

Hanky codes, spelling codes. We are a clandestine bunch.

Gay is a debilitating disease.

Jealous?

There's no T in "homosexual agenda". Silly Fass.
LOL! On a roll today, are we? :D

Ah. That's pretty wierd.

But interesting.

we have to take a stand SOMEWHERE. they took the holy land, the middle east, north africa, indonesia just........600 years ago!

its obvious to all true <somethings> that we cant let them take OSLO. no, not OSLO. no, just no.

"They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done."

I imagine this is how K-P see's himself...

Lessee...he went from Muslim-beating teenager, to a Catholic, to an outright Xenophobic racist. I'm not sure he has any lies left, Fass...

Where the FUCK did you pull Catholic from? Is that something you Protestants put into an argument to make people look bad?

How many battles have we lost against the barbarians?
It doesn't matter about what happens on the battlefield. We're letting the barbarians destroy us from within and the criminal traitors who are running our countries are sitting by and letting this happen.

HOLY CRAP! A 50% rape rate!? Well...when you put a bunch of scum on the island and call it a colony, what do you expect?
No one "put" them there! Sheesh! :rolleyes:

Easy to criticise, not so easy to propose an actual ... you know, like ... SOLUTION! :p

Actually, there is. Stop sensationalising the stories, giving fuel to the extremists, and ignore them. If they hurt us, ignore them. It's hadrline, but eventualy they go away.

Alternatively - Give the extremeists their own country. One for Muslim extremists, one for the Western ones. There they can live in their own little hatred-centered world and never disturb the normal people.

"They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done."

I imagine this is how K-P see's himself...

Actually, I see myself as a Roman living in the age of Franks and Germanians.

The trouble is, when all these politicians drone on about all the jobs they've created, what sort of jobs are we talking about? We're not talking about the traditional skilled working class jobs in sectors like heavy industry, jobs which are the cornerstone of a fair and relatively economically equal society. The jobs we're talking about are in things like catering, cleaning, ect. Crap minimum wage jobs. Immigration is another side of this. The worst undesireables get let into our countries to satisfy the greed of capitalism for cheap labour and driving wages down for the those who've always been there.

Actually with outsourcing to third-world nations we are actually making skilled jobs and it works. More people pass college today then ever before, our abilities as a whole are outstanding, though we do indeed love our services.

The immigrants take jobs no one else wants to do!

It can best be put as an analogy to the terrorist bombings in cities that used to be considered safe. In 1985, would you have expected airplanes to be rammed into the WTC?

No, it cannot. We aren't the Romans. We aren't standing on Palatine Hill.

I... never said that I was Catholic, stooge. If I did, it's because I'm technically Catholic, due to what my parents put on the census.

What are you claiming to be today, then? Just so we know what not to believe this time.

Where the FUCK did you pull Catholic from? Is that something you Protestants put into an argument to make people look bad?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Moi, a religious person? Oh no, on nononononono. Hah!

we have to take a stand SOMEWHERE. they took the holy land, the middle east, north africa, indonesia just........600 years ago!

its obvious to all true <somethings> that we cant let them take OSLO. no, not OSLO. no, just no.

Dem mooslims ca have Oslo, when they pry it from my cold, dead, white hands!:rolleyes:

Where the FUCK did you pull Catholic from? Is that something you Protestants put into an argument to make people look bad?

*Sigh* You are very immature.

Well, then, nobody will understand what you are saying, as usual.

I will not flame if you just explain what "act" it is that I am to do, and what "cu----" people you were talking about.
"cu--er". Only two letters missing now Fass. Not that hard to figure out what two letters go there. According to your posts on a thread I started, you have no respect for these people which I am mentioning.

It doesn't matter about what happens on the battlefield. We're letting the barbarians destroy us from within and the criminal traitors who are running our countries are sitting by and letting this happen.
Nice message on Easter Sunday, windsmear.

Actually, I see myself as a Roman living in the age of Franks and Germanians.

Awwww, how nice and delusional.

Where the FUCK did you pull Catholic from? Is that something you Protestants put into an argument to make people look bad?

Where did you pull protestant from?

Actually, there is. Stop sensationalising the stories, giving fuel to the extremists, and ignore them. If they hurt us, ignore them. It's hadrline, but eventualy they go away.

That is the worst idea I've ever heard. They tried that with Hitler, and he got to Russia. Even Jesus did that shit, and he got nailed to a cross.

What are you claiming to be today, then? Just so we know what not to believe this time.

Ya, your stories change faster then Jessica Jameson's panties!

Actually, I see myself as a Roman living in the age of Franks and Germanians.

Well, your ideas and reasoning are certainly sufficiently antediluvian for it.

"They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done."

I imagine this is how K-P see's himself...

Patrick Stewart is a much better actor, though.

That is the worst idea I've ever heard. They tried that with Hitler, and he got to Russia. Even Jesus did that shit, and he got nailed to a cross.

Hitler lost. Jesus won. 'Nuff said.

Actually, I see myself as a Roman living in the age of Franks and Germanians.

When was there ever a Germania?

Actually, there is. Stop sensationalising the stories, giving fuel to the extremists, and ignore them. If they hurt us, ignore them. It's hadrline, but eventualy they go away.

Alternatively - Give the extremeists their own country. One for Muslim extremists, one for the Western ones. There they can live in their own little hatred-centered world and never disturb the normal people.
Abridgment of guaranteed rights is no solution, neither is capitulation.

No, it cannot. We aren't the Romans. We aren't standing on Palatine Hill.

Why do people on this forum have difficulty with analogy and comparison? Do you have a funny little logics engine in your head?

No one "put" them there! Sheesh! :rolleyes:

So does this island count as Western Society, because if it does....we are doomed. Unless of course, anyone here feels it is their right to sex with underage girls because the girls have nothing else to do?

Patrick Stewart is a much better actor, though.

Hell yeah. I mentally apologised to the great Stewart for comparing him to such trash. I said 10 'Hail Stewart's' and bought some star trek merchandise from Ebay as pennance.

When was there ever a Germania?
According to Asterix comics, about 52 B.C.

Patrick Stewart is a much better actor, though.

Indeed he is.
Also did you see 'How William Shatner changed the world?" A very interesting thing that showed how visionary works can change the world for the better. :) Not bad for a 30 year old show.

Hitler lost. Jesus won. 'Nuff said.

Depends how you see Jesus.

Why do people on this forum have difficulty with analogy and comparison? Do you have a funny little logics engine in your head?

I don't have a problem understanding analogy or comparison. Your comparison just sucked.

"cu--er". Only two letters missing now Fass. Not that hard to figure out what two letters go there. According to your posts on a thread I started, you have no respect for these people which I am mentioning.

I've no idea what you are talking about. Spit it out, already. *sigh*

Actually with outsourcing to third-world nations we are actually making skilled jobs and it works. More people pass college today then ever before, our abilities as a whole are outstanding, though we do indeed love our services.

The immigrants take jobs no one else wants to do!
But the gulf is still there. While there may be more people going into graduate jobs, the gulf between them and the rest of society is increasing. If you can't get one of these jobs, there isn't much by the way of skilled working class jobs in heavy industry. Instead they do minimum wage crap. And the only reeason people aren't willing to do those jobs is because they pay peanuts. If there weren't any of these immigrants coming in, the employers would be forced to pay more to attract people. But they're too greedy so they use their political power to get the good little politicians to do exactly as they say and sow the seeds for an islamic state.

Why do people on this forum have difficulty with analogy and comparison? Do you have a funny little logics engine in your head?

My engine says your logic is bad, and that mine is working at 95% today.

When was there ever a Germania?
Poor, stupid man. Didn't you pay attention in your Ancient Civilizations history class? Or watch anything on the History Channel about the Roman-time period? Germania essentially encompassed Belgium, Germany, and most of Eastern Europe during the time of Rome. The Germanians really pissed off the Romans, since they continually kiced Romes ass in battle. Unfortuantetly, like the Borg, the Romans eventually assimilated them.

So does this island count as Western Society, because if it does....we are doomed. Unless of course, anyone here feels it is their right to sex with underage girls because the girls have nothing else to do?

Well there are only 50 people, they're not really representative of anything.

Abridgment of guaranteed rights is no solution, neither is capitulation.

Oh hell, they can have all the rights they want in their own little countries. They can do all they want as long as they don't come out.

Either that, or, you know, do something really drastic and attack the source of the problem, such as social poverty and racism in society that drives so many people to the extremes.

I don't have a problem understanding analogy or comparison. Your comparison just sucked.

How? When the Roman Empire was crumbling, the Empire was invaded by barbarians, and Rome was sacked several times. Now that the West is falling, we're being attacked within our cities.

I've no idea what you are talking about. Spit it out, already. *sigh*

Add two 'T's to CU--ER and you have the answer.

Depends how you see Jesus.

JESUS NEEDED TO DIE.
HE HAD TO DIE FOR OUR SINS.

By doing what he did he made a lasting impression and ended up creating the largest religion in the world through a very plain and simple idea! He alone is responsible for Christain rise and pulling the whole world out of the Dark Ages with his work and the Bible.

The Bible is the most influencial book in the world and even the Muslims praise God and how he works. Allah is just another name for God!

I've no idea what you are talking about. Spit it out, already. *sigh*
One more hint. The two remaining missing letters are the same letter. So it could be two a's, two e's, two u's, two i's, anything.

"They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done."

I imagine this is how K-P see's himself...
do you suppose he shaves his head?

How? When the Roman Empire was crumbling, the Empire was invaded by barbarians, and Rome was sacked several times. Now that the West is falling, we're being attacked within our cities.

Tell me, how many attacks have there been on the West? Five, maybe six incidents. How many dead? Let's say, 50,000. More people die from swimmingpool accidents in the West. Hell, falling of roofs if you look at the records enough. Hardly an apt comparison.

Well there are only 50 people, they're not really representative of anything.

Except tiny Pacific Islands inhabited by mutineers.

Oh, they've got the homosexual agenda down to a T! We are out to get them.

Apparently homosexuals plan to dominate the world by portraying Frodo and Sam as gay hobbit lovers, the fiends! :eek:

How? When the Roman Empire was crumbling, the Empire was invaded by barbarians, and Rome was sacked several times. Now that the West is falling, we're being attacked within our cities.
Quick! Wall yourself in.

No, leave the keyboard here. Just take these bricks, here, and that mortar over there, and get on with it. You'll be safe while we all erm... fall. Yeah, fall. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

Chop-chop! Hurry up, I think I hear barbarians or something.

Poor, stupid man. Didn't you pay attention in your Ancient Civilizations history class? Or watch anything on the History Channel about the Roman-time period? Germania essentially encompassed Belgium, Germany, and most of Eastern Europe during the time of Rome. The Germanians really pissed off the Romans, since they continually kiced Romes ass in battle. Unfortuantetly, like the Borg, the Romans eventually assimilated them.

Then would arise the early Germans in 1100 which would push and help create English and their langauge would be German. Ah....got to love the mixture of 3 languages into one.

JESUS NEEDED TO DIE.
HE HAD TO DIE FOR OUR SINS.

By doing what he did he made a lasting impression and ended up creating the largest religion in the world through a very plain and simple idea! He alone is responsible for Christain rise and pulling the whole world out of the Dark Ages with his work and the Bible.

The Bible is the most influencial book in the world and even the Muslims praise God and how he works. Allah is just another name for God!

Have we found a Christian fundie?

JESUS NEEDED TO DIE.
HE HAD TO DIE FOR OUR SINS.

By doing what he did he made a lasting impression and ended up creating the largest religion in the world through a very plain and simple idea! He alone is responsible for Christain rise and pulling the whole world out of the Dark Ages with his work and the Bible.

The Bible is the most influencial book in the world and even the Muslims praise God and how he works. Allah is just another name for God!

As I recall, Christains lead the world into the Dark Age.

Poor, stupid man. Didn't you pay attention in your Ancient Civilizations history class? Or watch anything on the History Channel about the Roman-time period? Germania essentially encompassed Belgium, Germany, and most of Eastern Europe during the time of Rome. The Germanians really pissed off the Romans, since they continually kiced Romes ass in battle. Unfortuantetly, like the Borg, the Romans eventually assimilated them.

Ah yes, I don't study history, I must be a worthless ignorant fool. I should probably just go sit in a corner for the rest of my life :rolleyes:

There is no Ancient Civilisations History class availabe in my school, there is history, but I chose to drop it. I don't have the History Channel.

do you suppose he shaves his head?

No, no I don't. I'm not a Nazi. I don't want to kill anything. Just rough a few people up and make sure they know we mean business.

Tell me, how many attacks have there been on the West? Five, maybe six incidents. How many dead? Let's say, 50,000. More people die from swimmingpool accidents in the West. Hell, falling of roofs if you look at the records enough. Hardly an apt comparison.

So true. We are more dangerous to ourselves then any other nation in the world, and also the safest....except for America and its gun lust.

Oh hell, they can have all the rights they want in their own little countries. They can do all they want as long as they don't come out.

Either that, or, you know, do something really drastic and attack the source of the problem, such as social poverty and racism in society that drives so many people to the extremes.
The "source" of the problem is genetically inherited tendencies among some humans to be greedy, avariscious, jealous, envious and hateful and to believe a lie if it's attractively packaged. When you find a solution to this, come and talk to me.

Quick! Wall yourself in.

No, leave the keyboard here. Just take these bricks, here, and that mortar over there, and get on with it. You'll be safe while we all erm... fall. Yeah, fall. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

Chop-chop! Hurry up, I think I hear barbarians or something.

And make sure not to leave any holes for ventilation or sunlight. The evilness of Muslim-kind can sneak in through the tiniest of holes. You can be safe in the knowledge that you're breathing pure, white air in that tiny space.

Tell me, how many attacks have there been on the West? Five, maybe six incidents. How many dead? Let's say, 50,000. More people die from swimmingpool accidents in the West. Hell, falling of roofs if you look at the records enough. Hardly an apt comparison.

It doesn't matter how many die. What matters is that it can, and will, happen again.

No, no I don't. I'm not a Nazi. I don't want to kill anything. Just rough a few people up and make sure they know we mean business.
Isn't that just what the Brownshirts used to say?

*points to bricks and mortar*

Isn't there something you need to DO?

No, no I don't. I'm not a Nazi. I don't want to kill anything. Just rough a few people up and make sure they know we mean business.

Being Nazi doesn't mean you want to kill things, it also a reactionary system of racism and xenocide to extract a pure product from people.

No, no I don't. I'm not a Nazi. I don't want to kill anything. Just rough a few people up and make sure they know we mean business.

I believe the Brownshirts in '33 thought the same thing. Rough up a few Jews, break a window or two. Maybe torch a shop. See how that went?

Add two 'T's to CU--ER and you have the answer.

Oh. My opinion has not changed, and will not.

It doesn't matter how many die. What matters is that it can, and will, happen again.

Oh really? When was the last attack?

As I recall, Christains lead the world into the Dark Age.
They did. They were one of the primary reasons that Rome fell. Rome would've fallen, but if the Christians hadn't come, their technology and culture would've been preserved for the next Empire to come, and Rome would've fallen much further down the road.

And make sure not to leave any holes for ventilation or sunlight. The evilness of Muslim-kind can sneak in through the tiniest of holes. You can be safe in the knowledge that you're breathing pure, white air in that tiny space.

You know that you're saying that because you have virtually no argument, right?

It doesn't matter how many die. What matters is that it can, and will, happen again.

Ya...just like how many times we've won and lost wars with other Western nations. ;)

Just cause it can and will happen doesn't mean that even the Muslims you praise are becoming Westernized before you vary eyes.

Oh really? When was the last attack?

Uhh... last year? In London?

They did. They were one of the primary reasons that Rome fell. Rome would've fallen, but if the Christians hadn't come, their technology and culture would've been preserved for the next Empire to come, and Rome would've fallen much further down the road.

The World would probably have been a better place.

You know that you're saying that because you have virtually no argument, right?

I have many arguments. My self and supporters have listed them many times in many threads of yours. Now I just like to gently mock your absurd notions.

How? When the Roman Empire was crumbling, the Empire was invaded by barbarians, and Rome was sacked several times. Now that the West is falling, we're being attacked within our cities.

Because:

A. The West is not falling. The West is in an unprecedented position as the sole power of the world. There is no rival to the US/Western European hegemony that currently exists in the world today.

B. We aren't being invaded by barbarians. The Muslims are not coming into our country with weapons, slaughtering our children and raping our women. The instances that you can point to are aberrations and when compared as instances per population part, come up to a lower percentage than crimes committed by your oh so favorite white people.

C. Rome hasn't been sacked. Whichever city you want to point to as our Rome (London, New York City, etc.) has not fallen. Temporary disruptions, but no sackings. 9/11, which you love to point at as the proof of the fall of the West, sidelined New York City for a month, tops, before everything returned to normal.

D. The Empire never fell. Rome continued as an ideal even after the fall of the city in 476. The Empire continued until the fall of Constantinople in 1453. So, even if we are to take your deluded ramblings as truth, even after Rome falls, the Empire will continue for many years. Western society will not be destroyed so quickly.

You know that you're saying that because you have virtually no argument, right?
I believe this is the single-most entertaining thread I've read in... minutes.

It doesn't matter how many die. What matters is that it can, and will, happen again.

Of course it will. Teh ZOMG evil muslims are out to destroy us all. Better put your tinfoil hat on, I heard they have telepathic powers :rolleyes:

They did. They were one of the primary reasons that Rome fell. Rome would've fallen, but if the Christians hadn't come, their technology and culture would've been preserved for the next Empire to come, and Rome would've fallen much further down the road.

Actually it wasn't it was after Nero and Caesar that it fell do to weak leadership in the now split Empire. It was weak leaders that lead to the fall of the Empire.

Because:

A. The West is not falling. The West is in an unprecedented position as the sole power of the world. There is no rival to the US/Western European hegemony that currently exists in the world today.

B. We aren't being invaded by barbarians. The Muslims are not coming into our country with weapons, slaughtering our children and raping our women. The instances that you can point to are aberrations and when compared as instances per population part, come up to a lower percentage than crimes committed by your oh so favorite white people.

C. Rome hasn't been sacked. Whichever city you want to point to as our Rome (London, New York City, etc.) has not fallen. Temporary disruptions, but no sackings. 9/11, which you love to point at as the proof of the fall of the West, sidelined New York City for a month, tops, before everything returned to normal.

D. The Empire never fell. Rome continued as an ideal even after the fall of the city in 476. The Empire continued until the fall of Constantinople in 1453. So, even if we are to take your deluded ramblings as truth, even after Rome falls, the Empire will continue for many years. Western society will not be destroyed so quickly.

Basicaly my arguments in a better summation than I could ever make, K-P. But please, ignore them as I know you will.

Of course it will. Teh ZOMG evil muslims are out to destroy us all. Better put your tinfoil hat on, I heard they have telepathic powers :rolleyes:

They come from the Moon too.

I believe this is the single-most entertaining thread I've read in... minutes.

And big noses!


Oh...wait...

They did. They were one of the primary reasons that Rome fell. Rome would've fallen, but if the Christians hadn't come, their technology and culture would've been preserved for the next Empire to come, and Rome would've fallen much further down the road.

And how do you know this?

Apparently homosexuals plan to dominate the world by portraying Frodo and Sam as gay hobbit lovers, the fiends! :eek:

It's not our entire agenda, give us some credit.

They come from the Moon too.
The mysterious Dark Side of the Moon.

The World would probably have been a better place.
No. Because essentially, that would mean that the industrial revolution would've happened at about 800 A.D., about 1000 years before it actually happened. That would mean that the atomic bomb would have first been used at around 900 A.D. So that means that the nuclear holocaust would've happened at about 1500 A.D.

Dem mooslims ca have Oslo, when they pry it from my cold, dead, white hands!:rolleyes:
id call you an extremeist but really, oslo IS western civilization, if we let them take oslo what do we have?

nothing. just the empty shell of the glory that was the west.

Because:

A. The West is not falling. The West is in an unprecedented position as the sole power of the world. There is no rival to the US/Western European hegemony that currently exists in the world today.

B. We aren't being invaded by barbarians. The Muslims are not coming into our country with weapons, slaughtering our children and raping our women. The instances that you can point to are aberrations and when compared as instances per population part, come up to a lower percentage than crimes committed by your oh so favorite white people.

C. Rome hasn't been sacked. Whichever city you want to point to as our Rome (London, New York City, etc.) has not fallen. Temporary disruptions, but no sackings. 9/11, which you love to point at as the proof of the fall of the West, sidelined New York City for a month, tops, before everything returned to normal.

D. The Empire never fell. Rome continued as an ideal even after the fall of the city in 476. The Empire continued until the fall of Constantinople in 1453. So, even if we are to take your deluded ramblings as truth, even after Rome falls, the Empire will continue for many years. Western society will not be destroyed so quickly.

A perfect post. /clap
Rome had so many problems, but it still remains, and although its ideology lives on, Rome's worst thing was that because of a fucking romp with Cleopatra that they set humanity back a 1000 years by burning the greatest library in the world!

And how do you know this?

I already posted the real reason at the top of page 6 for all you people in 40 posts per page. It was leadership, not religion, that lead to the fall.

No. Because essentially, that would mean that the industrial revolution would've happened at about 800 A.D., about 1000 years before it actually happened. That would mean that the atomic bomb would have first been used at around 900 A.D. So that means that the nuclear holocaust would've happened at about 1500 A.D.

I do not think a Nuclear Holocaust would have happened.

They come from the Moon too.

Yup, that has to be true, cos moon and muslim both start with m. So does murder, so all Muslim-Moon-Men must be murderers.

id call you an extremeist but really, oslo IS western civilization, if we let them take oslo what do we have?

nothing. just the empty shell of the glory that was the west.

Rally round the Swastika chaps! They'll never get this city and its pure-white virgins until their filthy feet touch our corpses!

Because:

A. The West is not falling. The West is in an unprecedented position as the sole power of the world. There is no rival to the US/Western European hegemony that currently exists in the world today.

The West is not so much falling, but heading downward. The West's peak has been hit, and as safety, rights and decrease, the balance of power changed.

B. We aren't being invaded by barbarians. The Muslims are not coming into our country with weapons, slaughtering our children and raping our women. The instances that you can point to are aberrations and when compared as instances per population part, come up to a lower percentage than crimes committed by your oh so favorite white people.

Major attacks on Western cities/targets in the last 15 years: 6 that come to mind. Before that? None that come to mind.

C. Rome hasn't been sacked. Whichever city you want to point to as our Rome (London, New York City, etc.) has not fallen. Temporary disruptions, but no sackings. 9/11, which you love to point at as the proof of the fall of the West, sidelined New York City for a month, tops, before everything returned to normal.

The Roman Empire began it's downfall long before the city was first sacked. The same applies to the West.

D. The Empire never fell. Rome continued as an ideal even after the fall of the city in 476. The Empire continued until the fall of Constantinople in 1453. So, even if we are to take your deluded ramblings as truth, even after Rome falls, the Empire will continue for many years. Western society will not be destroyed so quickly.

Oh please. Byzantium? It was a little sad.

A perfect post. /clap
Rome had so many problems, but it still remains, and although its ideology lives on, Rome's worst thing was that because of a fucking romp with Cleopatra that they set humanity back a 1000 years by burning the greatest library in the world!
Yeah. Can't believe they actually burnt down the Library Of Alexandria. That's kind of like, burning down Paris, or Moscow, or Beijing!

No. Because essentially, that would mean that the industrial revolution would've happened at about 800 A.D., about 1000 years before it actually happened. That would mean that the atomic bomb would have first been used at around 900 A.D. So that means that the nuclear holocaust would've happened at about 1500 A.D.

I see no nuclear holocaust and I doubt they would have built a nuclear bomb, the middle ages were surprisingly violent, but the ideology was the worst thing in the world.

There will never be a nuclear holocaust.

Yup, that has to be true, cos moon and muslim both start with m. So does murder, so all Muslim-Moon-Men must be murderers.
Hot damn, I'm convinced. Let's lead a crusade to the Moon to fight these e-vil types on their home turf instead of waiting for them to come steal our precius bodily fluids. Or sack Rome.

id call you an extremeist but really, oslo IS western civilization, if we let them take oslo what do we have?

nothing. just the empty shell of the glory that was the west.

So true, every true Westernet knows it's really Oslo society, not Western society. And that we're all really decended from the Oslo Master Race.

No. Because essentially, that would mean that the industrial revolution would've happened at about 800 A.D., about 1000 years before it actually happened. That would mean that the atomic bomb would have first been used at around 900 A.D. So that means that the nuclear holocaust would've happened at about 1500 A.D.

So the whole thing happens earlier. Big deal.

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You've remarkably little faith in the society that you love so dear. It's almost insulting.

Yeah. Can't believe they actually burnt down the Library Of Alexandria. That's kind of like, burning down Paris, or Moscow, or Beijing!

Or burning down Jolt and/or Nationstates?

The West is not so much falling, but heading downward. The West's peak has been hit, and as safety, rights and decrease, the balance of power changed.



Major attacks on Western cities/targets in the last 15 years: 6 that come to mind. Before that? None that come to mind.



The Roman Empire began it's downfall long before the city was first sacked. The same applies to the West.



Oh please. Byzantium? It was a little sad.


Cause of a new word called Terrorism. What about all the cults and things we've had in the past though. In WWII Japan even attacked the coastline of America and plenty of things have been quiet throughout history.

Your post makes no sense except to show your belief in a 'major' attack is just a few psychos building a weapon for a cause, which has been throughout history.

No, no I don't. I'm not a Nazi. I don't want to kill anything. Just rough a few people up and make sure they know we mean business.
i can not keep up with this thread!

noooooo not because youre a member of the aryan nation. because you want to look more like patrick stewart!

shave your head, wear a cheap polyester uniform, fake an english accent and rant about not being assimillated.

I do not think a Nuclear Holocaust would have happened.
Think about it. A completely alternate history where Rome never truly fell. I think the technogical advances would cause a nuclear holocaust sometime before 1700 A.D. But by then we would have had spaceships, and would be flying to Romulus to hide out with the Romulans until the half-life stopped. That'd be somewhat funny. Ancient Romans landing on the moon.

Yeah. Can't believe they actually burnt down the Library Of Alexandria. That's kind of like, burning down Paris, or Moscow, or Beijing!

Far worse then you can imagine.

Think about it. A completely alternate history where Rome never truly fell. I think the technogical advances would cause a nuclear holocaust sometime before 1700 A.D. But by then we would have had spaceships, and would be flying to Romulus to hide out with the Romulans until the half-life stopped. That'd be somewhat funny. Ancient Romans landing on the moon.

Actually they wouldn't the ideology was not present. Rome would have ruled the world though.

I see no nuclear holocaust and I doubt they would have built a nuclear bomb, the middle ages were surprisingly violent, but the ideology was the worst thing in the world.

There will never be a nuclear holocaust.
No you fool. The middle ages as we know it wouldn't have happened, because Rome would have never fallen and there would never have been Christianity!

Think about it. A completely alternate history where Rome never truly fell. I think the technogical advances would cause a nuclear holocaust sometime before 1700 A.D. But by then we would have had spaceships, and would be flying to Romulus to hide out with the Romulans until the half-life stopped. That'd be somewhat funny. Ancient Romans landing on the moon.

Why Romulus?

Or burning down Jolt and/or Nationstates?
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Lets n00k the moon before the destroy this, the opus of human civilisation

You've remarkably little faith in the society that you love so dear. It's almost insulting.

It's a great society, but it's reached it's apex. Every empire falls, every era ends. I'm just starting to understand what most people won't understand until the next great civilization is approaching power.

You've remarkably little faith in the society that you love so dear. It's almost insulting.

Precisely....and it IS an insult.

Far worse then you can imagine.
The Library of Alexandria had a copy of almost every single writing known to man. That's incredibly bad. Not even the murder of Fiddlebottoms himself would compare to that.

No you fool. The middle ages as we know it wouldn't have happened, because Rome would have never fallen and there would never have been Christianity!

I already said that Rome would have never fallen. Though we'd have Rome philosophy and ideology....those are different the product of the Middle Ages.

Why Romulus?
Romulans rock man. Besides, its rom-ulus, and its rom-ans going to it. I hate the fact that there aren't many Star Trek episodes involving Romulans though.

The Library of Alexandria had a copy of almost every single writing known to man. That's incredibly bad. Not even the murder of Fiddlebottoms himself would compare to that.

And if the Library had survived, we'd be digging up unreadable, age worn manuscripts that collapse on contact with sunlight. No big loss.

The Library of Alexandria had a copy of almost every single writing known to man. That's incredibly bad. Not even the murder of Fiddlebottoms himself would compare to that.

Clocks, Steam engines, math...science....surgery. Everything was lost. They even developed the COMPUTER. Its taken us a long time, but now we are effectively totally kicking their asses and we have learned from their mistakes.

Romulans rock man. Besides, its rom-ulus, and its rom-ans going to it. I hate the fact that there aren't many Star Trek episodes involving Romulans though.

Vulcans are uber 20x better then Romulans.

I already said that Rome would have never fallen. Though we'd have Rome philosophy and ideology....those are different the product of the Middle Ages.

Rome would definitely have fallen, every empire does.

Rome would definitely have fallen, every empire does.

It would have been the exception.

Think about it. A completely alternate history where Rome never truly fell. I think the technogical advances would cause a nuclear holocaust sometime before 1700 A.D. But by then we would have had spaceships, and would be flying to Romulus to hide out with the Romulans until the half-life stopped. That'd be somewhat funny. Ancient Romans landing on the moon.

Wuh? Spaceships flying to Romulus? Wasn't Romulus a person, as in Romulus and Remus, the Romulus who, according to legend built/founded Rome? How the funk can they fly to a person long dead? What are you smoking?

Clocks, Steam engines, math...science....surgery. Everything was lost. They even developed the COMPUTER. Its taken us a long time, but now we are effectively totally kicking their asses and we have learned from their mistakes.

So they had access to Nationstates?

Vulcans are uber 20x better then Romulans.
Do Vulcans have STEALTH technology? Nope.

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Lets n00k the moon before the destroy this, the opus of human civilisation
You're preaching to the converted. Down with Lunar oppression of Swedes!

Wuh? Spaceships flying to Romulus? Wasn't Romulus a person, as in Romulus and Remus, the Romulus who, according to legend built/founded Rome? How the funk can they fly to a person long dead? What are you smoking?
Star Trek, my friend, Star Trek.

Wuh? Spaceships flying to Romulus? Wasn't Romulus a person, as in Romulus and Remus, the Romulus who, according to legend built/founded Rome? How the funk can they fly to a person long dead? What are you smoking?

I think it's Star Trek. Try not to think too much.

So they had access to Nationstates?

No....it wasn't that complex lol. Though it did exist. In basic basic form.

So they had access to Nationstates?
Yep. But Caesar was a little scared about the fact that people could make their own nations. So he destroyed all the computers. DAMN YOU CAESAR! DAMN YOU!

Do Vulcans have STEALTH technology? Nope.

Can Romulans perform mind melds? NOPE! Did they help humanity become what is in the 24th Century? YEP! Thus, Uber Vulcans kick little Romulans tiny butts!

And if the Library had survived, we'd be digging up unreadable, age worn manuscripts that collapse on contact with sunlight. No big loss.
Unreadable by you maybe, but not for someone fluent in ancient Greek, and there are ways to safeguard manuscripts that are in such conditions.

Wow, this thread sure was derailed in a hurry.