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My girlfriend preferred a light stubble when I sucked on her nipples. Actually, she often had me rub my chin on places that itched instead of scratching herself...:p


thats what we call a "stubble-rub"

My girlfriend preferred a light stubble when I sucked on her nipples. Actually, she often had me rub my chin on places that itched instead of scratching herself...:p
Convienient that! And AMEN to the nipple thing...sucking, pinching, biting...VERY NICE! How about guys though...are you into having your nipples toyed with?

Meh, I'll be back in a jiffy... my ex just sat down at the table I've been sitting at. Must relocate to some more secluded part of the library... :(

you're right on. I usually shave every three days when I'm not appearing anywhere. near perpetual stubble.

saving a fortune on those triple blades though.
and deodorant
Did you ever see the Simpson's episode where Homer shaves, and immediately after he finishes, his 5 o'clock shadow springs back up? That's my husband. When he works out of town, he lets it grow, but he prefers to shave at home. Frankly, I'm glad I'm spared that agony! Legs are bad enough, but they don't get like that!

Convienient that! And AMEN to the nipple thing...sucking, pinching, biting...VERY NICE! How about guys though...are you into having your nipples toyed with?

Nah...There's a big hair issue there. Plus, it has to be absolutely frigidly cold for mine to be hard. Another thing I'm not interested in.
My friend got both of his nipples pierced. I wouldnt waste my time-mine are small and not overly sensitive. and dont usually factor into any activities.

Meh, I'll be back in a jiffy... my ex just sat down at the table I've been sitting at. Must relocate to some more secluded part of the library... :(


Why dont you drag her into the reference section and treat her like the pig that she is...she wouldnt have come near you if she didnt want to ...uh-come near you.

Nah...There's a big hair issue there. Plus, it has to be absolutely frigidly cold for mine to be hard. Another thing I'm not interested in.
My friend got both of his nipples pierced. I wouldnt waste my time-mine are small and not overly sensitive. and dont usually factor into any activities.
Yeah, the hubby is indifferent too. He doesn't like being bitten either. But, oh well, as long as he likes doing it to me!

Did you ever see the Simpson's episode where Homer shaves, and immediately after he finishes, his 5 o'clock shadow springs back up? That's my husband. When he works out of town, he lets it grow, but he prefers to shave at home. Frankly, I'm glad I'm spared that agony! Legs are bad enough, but they don't get like that!


mine grows in pretty quickly, but my hair is brwn-my beard comes in brown/red and there are even a few white ones here and there.
So it doesnt look that dark. It is coarse, so on day three,I have to shave or it will drive me nuts on my neck. Especially when its hot and humid.

Yeah, the hubby is indifferent too. He doesn't like being bitten either. But, oh well, as long as he likes doing it to me!

Yeah. my nipples-i dont care.

But you cant bite me hard enough.

Convienient that! And AMEN to the nipple thing...sucking, pinching, biting...VERY NICE! How about guys though...are you into having your nipples toyed with?Hm... not much, though her suckling on my chest was always fun. She'd work her way up and then get to my mouth. The funny thing was, when we first got together, we were still afraid to kiss eachother, since we were still in other relationships and didn't want to take that last step until it was inevitable...

Why dont you drag her into the reference section and treat her like the pig that she is...she wouldnt have come near you if she didnt want to ...uh-come near you.
Hey, it never hurts to ask if she wants to shag...I think the lamest bait I ever took, just for the hell of it, was when a roomate of mine said, "Hey, we should fuck...I changed the sheets and everything!" Why not? Good way to pass an afternoon:).

Why dont you drag her into the reference section and treat her like the pig that she is...she wouldnt have come near you if she didnt want to ...uh-come near you.It's her usual seat. I'd hoped she'd have gone back home to her parents over the break. I know for sure she doesn't want to do anything with me (I've asked) and the way things are now, if she was the last woman on earth and human survival depended on us procreating, I'd probably kill her and grab a sheep...

It's her usual seat. I'd hoped she'd have gone back home to her parents over the break. I know for sure she doesn't want to do anything with me (I've asked) and the way things are now, if she was the last woman on earth and human survival depended on us procreating, I'd probably kill her and grab a sheep...
Ouch! What the hell happened during your break up to make you so bitter? And yes, I'm aware I'm prying...you can tell me to go f*ck myself anytime. I may just go do it too:).

Ouch! What the hell happened during your break up to make you so bitter? And yes, I'm aware I'm prying...you can tell me to go f*ck myself anytime. I may just go do it too:).Is that a threat or a promise? :D Anyway, what happened is that she managed to totally fuck up her timing when she broke up with me. She missed the anniversary of my last depression by two days. The biggest problem with that was that this was 5 days before my birthday. That's two fucked up birthdays in a row at the important ages of 20 and 21...
What really embittered me was how she was behaving at a party that I went to. She just kept bumping into the group of people I was with and basically ruined that party for me. I really needed to enjoy it though, since it was the second party I'd been to in a long long time due to me trying to seclude myself from her. I didn't manage to do any dancing, since any desire to do so was killed. So I thought I should go home. Better to feel lonely at home than at a party.

Did you ever see the Simpson's episode where Homer shaves, and immediately after he finishes, his 5 o'clock shadow springs back up? That's my husband. When he works out of town, he lets it grow, but he prefers to shave at home. Frankly, I'm glad I'm spared that agony! Legs are bad enough, but they don't get like that!


*shakes fist* some people have all the luck, eh? Gotta shave the arms, and the legs, and the chest/stomach, and my face! I'll *get* you for this, I will. Mmmmhmm.

*shakes fist* some people have all the luck, eh? Gotta shave the arms, and the legs, and the chest/stomach, and my face! I'll *get* you for this, I will. Mmmmhmm.That reminds me of the shaving orgies two of my swim teammates would engage in before the finals in Munich... Head, back, legs... scarred me for life, that did...

*shakes fist* some people have all the luck, eh? Gotta shave the arms, and the legs, and the chest/stomach, and my face! I'll *get* you for this, I will. Mmmmhmm.
Or you could dole out the cash for that laser hair removal...(yeah right...and I'm not sure it's permanent anyway)...but will the hormones help the hair to become less of a problem?

That reminds me of the shaving orgies two of my swim teammates would engage in before the finals in Munich... Head, back, legs... scarred me for life, that did...

Aha... a bit of scarring builds character. You should've joined in! you know, mutual shaving. Get some real bonding going on. Then you could go camping, share a tent, one thing leads to another, and get some Real bonding going on. I'm just planting seeds here, planting seeds. [/hicks]

That reminds me of the shaving orgies two of my swim teammates would engage in before the finals in Munich... Head, back, legs... scarred me for life, that did...
Shaving. A necessity that looks and feels good for such a limited time...if you do it too much, you have sandpaper stubble, but in some places, you don't want to let it grow too long in between shaves. I suppose I could try getting a bikini wax for that particular area...it's supposed to last longer than shaving, but I'm not sure how much longer.

What are people's shaving preferences around the nether regions? I like a guy's hair to be short, so I'm not picking it out of my teeth constantly...but fully shaved would do nothing for me at all. I like to be trim and neat, myself.

Or you could dole out the cash for that laser hair removal...(yeah right...and I'm not sure it's permanent anyway)...but will the hormones help the hair to become less of a problem?

Well, I already know of one person who got the laser stuff on the NHS, but I'd imagine that since it costed four thousand pounds, that'd be a bit of a struggle to get them to cough up. It can be permanent, but there are sometimes "tough spots" that really take a lot of effort to get rid of.

The hormones will help with the problem but not alleviate it. Hair will become finer and easier to remove (I get proper stubble on my legs, worse than sandpaper, and it grows in stronger each time, so it gets worse and worse) and I think the arm and chest hair will be equally affected... apparently moreso, but I haven't looked into it so much, to be honest.

Aha... a bit of scarring builds character. You should've joined in! you know, mutual shaving. Get some real bonding going on. Then you could go camping, share a tent, one thing leads to another, and get some Real bonding going on. I'm just planting seeds here, planting seeds. [/hicks]Gah! They did shave mutually... especially the backs... but they weren't the guys I'd go camping with. Of all the things I started doing in Summer Camp, that was one of the few things that didn't happen, the mutual bonding thing...

That reminds me of the shaving orgies two of my swim teammates would engage in before the finals in Munich... Head, back, legs... scarred me for life, that did...
buh... personally never liked shaving... shaving me face left it all dry and weird feeling... don't even want to know how it'll feel... elsewhere... ya know... the legs... arms... chest... elsewhere...

You know, there are some people conspicuously absent from this thread...where are Sumamba, Sdaeriji, and Jocabia? They always like to talk dirty!

What are people's shaving preferences around the nether regions? I like a guy's hair to be short, so I'm not picking it out of my teeth constantly...but fully shaved would do nothing for me at all. I like to be trim and neat, myself.I trim it with scissors. I do this shortly before I vacuum, since I learned the hard way not to do it in the shower...

You know, there are some people conspicuously absent from this thread...where are Sumamba, Sdaeriji, and Jocabia? They always like to talk dirty!No clue, but my library has taken to closing early now... I'm off.

I trim it with scissors. I do this shortly before I vacuum, since I learned the hard way not to do it in the shower...
We both find than an electric razor works faster, and is more consitent in terms of length than scissors...AND it's safe enough to get oddly-shaped areas...

No clue, but my library has taken to closing early now... I'm off.
So early...see you later?

So early...see you later?

psht. Don't you find it odd he splits as soon as I give my suggestion about camping under the excuse "the library is closing early?"

Libraries are hubs of order and efficiency - it'd only close early in a disaster, and even then it'd have to be a quiet disaster.

I don't expect to see him for a while, haha, and probably with nettle rashes and blisters.

I never trim down there-its all natural, all the time.

I shave her from time to time-start with an electric trimmer and finish with a good three blade razor. then a sound and thorough licking.

I never trim down there-its all natural, all the time.

I shave her from time to time-start with an electric trimmer and finish with a good three blade razor. then a sound and thorough licking.
My husband has suggested doing the same thing. We just haven't gotten around to it yet I guess.

My husband has suggested doing the same thing. We just haven't gotten around to it yet I guess.


The process is very sensual and thrilling. Take your time-after trimming close with the electric, warm soap and water, the rinse well, add a little lotion and then gel shaving cream.
No rush-you dont want to ruin it by leaving stinging razor nicks.

it grows back soon enough. I love bald and smooth one day and then, I love silky fur too. The contrast is a real thrill.

Almost as good as coming home horny from a bachelor party and finding her with her hair dyed red!! Ithough I stumbled into the wrong house. Lots of fun then too

My husband has suggested doing the same thing. We just haven't gotten around to it yet I guess.


this is something to try if you get away to a hotel room for a night. More fun with no distractions, no phone, no potential kid invasions, etc...

Almost as good as coming home horny from a bachelor party and finding her with her hair dyed red!! Ithough I stumbled into the wrong house. Lots of fun then too
Wait...which patch of hair are we talking about here? ;)

Go ahead, you've managed to pique my curiosity :D
Well, she's still asleep, or I would ask her. But she's told me that she doesn't mind who knows that I'm more than 30 years older than her. Beyond that, you'll just have to ask her.

See? This is what happens on here when someone my age talks about sex. All you people who claim to be so wonderfully liberated and unprejudiced are simply lying through your teeth. You're only "liberated" and "unprejudiced" when it's convenient for you to be. Most of you have probably never even met an African American, or a Chicano, or an illegal immigrant, or a gay person, so it's easy for you to tell everyone how fucking liberated you are. But let someone with a few more years than you insist on actually having a life, as opposed to just existing, and what do you do? Leave the discussion and get all embarrased or repulsed.

I think it's because you have a stereotype of what an older person "should be like" that includes your parents and/or your grandparents, and when someone like me comes along who refuses to be confined to the little box of your expectations, you panic and refuse to address the issues.

Well, I've got news for you. I'm not your damned father. I'm not your damned grandfather. I enjoy sex now, and I'm going to continue to enjoy sex right up until they start shovelling dirt onto me. If that bothers you then I have a suggestion for you ....


... GROW THE FUCK UP!!!

Wait...which patch of hair are we talking about here? ;)


On her head. A really nice surprise.

See? This is what happens on here when someone my age talks about sex. All you people who claim to be so wonderfully liberated and unprejudiced are simply lying through your teeth. You're only "liberated" and "unprejudiced" when it's convenient for you to be. Most of you have probably never even met an African American, or a Chicano, or an illegal immigrant, or a gay person, so it's easy for you to tell everyone how fucking liberated you are. But let someone with a few more years than you insist on actually having a life, as opposed to just existing, and what do you do? Leave the discussion and get all embarrased or repulsed.

I think it's because you have a stereotype of what an older person "should be like" that includes your parents and/or your grandparents, and when someone like me comes along who refuses to be confined to the little box of your expectations, you panic and refuse to address the issues.

Well, I've got news for you. I'm not your damned father. I'm not your damned grandfather. I enjoy sex now, and I'm going to continue to enjoy sex right up until they start shovelling dirt onto me. If that bothers you then I have a suggestion for you ....


... GROW THE FUCK UP!!!

I must have missed something.
And I certainly hope it was nothing I said that offended you. I know I didnt intend to.
Let me know-I hate to see someone this angry and not know why.

I must have missed something.
And I certainly hope it was nothing I said that offended you. I know I didnt intend to.
Let me know-I hate to see someone this angry and not know why.
No, you're not one of the hypocrates on here. Sorry to paint with such a broad brush, but this problem really irritates the hell outta me. My apologies. :(

No, you're not one of the hypocrates on here. Sorry to paint with such a broad brush, but this problem really irritates the hell outta me. My apologies. :(


Ok- I usually say so many potentially offensive things, I'm bound to get someone pissed off at me somewhere along the line.

Ok- I usually say so many potentially offensive things, I'm bound to get someone pissed off at me somewhere along the line.
Yeah, well, it's almost impossible to even post on here without offending some ideologically hidebound dweeb, but I've not seen you be deliberately offensive. :)

Yeah, well, it's almost impossible to even post on here without offending some ideologically hidebound dweeb, but I've not seen you be deliberately offensive. :)

Did you chase everyone away?

Did you chase everyone away?
They left as soon as I started talking about sex. It's that way on every thread dealing with sexual issues. The threads are going great guns, then I post something and they all shut up. That's why I got so pissed. :(

*Snip*Hope it was nothing I said either. I haven't been here all afternoon for completely unrelated reasons. I think it's great that you enjoy sex at your age - anyway, you're not that old!!! Just want you to know that I bear no prejudice against you for any reason, least of all your age!

By the way, thanks to you and the others for the 'standing up' advice :)

Hope it was nothing I said either. I haven't been here all afternoon for completely unrelated reasons. I think it's great that you enjoy sex at your age - anyway, you're not that old!!! Tell me to mind my own business if you wish, but I just want you to know that I bear no prejudice against you for any reason, least of all your age!

By the way, thanks to you and the others for the 'standing up' advice :)
LOL! Don't mind me. I sometimes over-react to things that are actually relatively innocuous. Sorry.

And you're most welcome about the "stand up advice!" ;)

LOL! Don't mind me. I sometimes over-react to things that are actually relatively innocuous. Sorry.Don't worry - I do it all the time myself :)

*snip unreasonable rant*

... GROW THE FUCK UP!!!
Um, Eut...seeing shadows where none exist? Has ANYONE on this thread made any sort of denigrating comments about your age and your sex life? Cut out the drama.

Hey, older just means more experienced. :D

Why do I always come late to these threads??? Er... no pun intended. :p

They left as soon as I started talking about sex. It's that way on every thread dealing with sexual issues. The threads are going great guns, then I post something and they all shut up. That's why I got so pissed. :(
Oh hush. And don't flatter yourself. Your sex life is hardly shocking enough to drive us away :D I went for lunch, Laerod had to leave the library, and really, the only other person participating was Carn, who is still here. Don't be so sensitive!

Edit: OH NO!!! It's been almost three minutes, and no one has responded to my post! They must all hate me!

Oh hush. And don't flatter yourself. Your sex life is hardly shocking enough to drive us away :D I went for lunch, Laerod had to leave the library, and really, the only other person participating was Carn, who is still here. Don't be so sensitive!

Edit: OH NO!!! It's been almost three minutes, and no one has responded to my post! They must all hate me!
Sinuhue?


Bite me!

Sinuhue?

Bite me!
Not likely you dirty old man! Tell your young tart to do that :D

They left as soon as I started talking about sex. It's that way on every thread dealing with sexual issues. The threads are going great guns, then I post something and they all shut up. That's why I got so pissed. :(


I left unannounced when my wife called to say she had bought some furniture and now I get to get it home. And its 96 degrees and humid.
I really wouldnt take it so personally.
I dont think of you being so old-I'm 38 and I think its great your sharing fun with someone much younger. There are some people that ARE really old at your age, but I've listened to you talk about biking,etc...-some 40 yr olds dont enjoy the stuff you do.

I would also think many other posters would like the perspective of someone with loads more experience.
You're as old as you act.
And if you're 60 or so and your girlfriend is 30 or so, you are doing something right in my book. Holy shit! your girlfriend is younger than my wife!!!
:D Enjoy.

And on that note, I'd like to know why it's still okay for older men to have young wives or girlfriends, but constant jokes are cracked, and dirty looks thrown when an older woman has a young studmuffin around! Think Donald 'how do you like my hair' Trump and his succession of sweet young wives, and then think of Demi Moore and Ashton. Older women looking for hot-blooded younglings are called cougars, and occasionally you'll hear jokes made about a man being a cradle-robber...but his young girlfriend/wife is more of a testament to his virility than a negative thing...so what's the deal? If my hubby were to die, I'd look for a 26 year old pool boy named Pedro...

Um, Eut...seeing shadows where none exist? Has ANYONE on this thread made any sort of denigrating comments about your age and your sex life? Cut out the drama.

Why if it isnt the Queen of the Mardi Gras- Look who is talking about lack of attention!!! She knows how you feel!!

I'm taking a long weekend and I'll straighten you right out. Just me, you and a shoe horn. or a speculum.

And on that note, I'd like to know why it's still okay for older men to have young wives or girlfriends, but constant jokes are cracked, and dirty looks thrown when an older woman has a young studmuffin around! Think Donald 'how do you like my hair' Trump and his succession of sweet young wives, and then think of Demi Moore and Ashton. Older women looking for hot-blooded younglings are called cougars, and occasionally you'll hear jokes made about a man being a cradle-robber...but his young girlfriend/wife is more of a testament to his virility than a negative thing...so what's the deal? If my hubby were to die, I'd look for a 26 year old pool boy named Pedro...
Hey! Far as I'm concerned, what's sauce for the Gander is sauce for the Goose. You want a young studmuffin, or two or three? Go for it! :D

I left unannounced when my wife called to say she had bought some furniture and now I get to get it home. And its 96 degrees and humid.
I really wouldnt take it so personally.
I dont think of you being so old-I'm 38 and I think its great your sharing fun with someone much younger. There are some people that ARE really old at your age, but I've listened to you talk about biking,etc...-some 40 yr olds dont enjoy the stuff you do.

I would also think many other posters would like the perspective of someone with loads more experience.
You're as old as you act.
And if you're 60 or so and your girlfriend is 30 or so, you are doing something right in my book. Holy shit! your girlfriend is younger than my wife!!!
:D Enjoy.
My girlfriend is younger than any of my children. :eek:

My girlfriend is younger than any of my children. :eek:
Well, if I tried that, I'd end up with a single sperm for company:) I guess I need to wait until I'm a few decades older!

My girlfriend is younger than any of my children. :eek:

"standing on top,
of the world..."


I heard a good line once where the guy said "My dream wife hasnt been born yet".

You were actually able to say this!

My boyfriend and I got a lot of stick when we met - nothing serious, just banter, but I considered it irritating nonetheless - because he's 10 years my senior. I was 19 at the time, and he was (presumably 'jokingly') accused of being a cradle snatcher. As if I wasn't an adult in my own right, capable of independent thought and decisions! Fuck it! As long as you both get on well and all of that other sentimental shit, who cares about age differences? ;) That applies whether the man or the woman is older. Love is all you need... Or lust, perhaps :D

My boyfriend and I got a lot of stick when we met - nothing serious, just banter, but I considered it irritating nonetheless - because he's 10 years my senior. I was 19 at the time, and he was (presumably 'jokingly') accused of being a cradle snatcher. As if I wasn't an adult in my own right, capable of independent thought and decisions! Fuck it! As long as you both get on well and all of that other sentimental shit, who cares about age differences? ;) That applies whether the man or the woman is older. Love is all you need... Or lust, perhaps :D
My absolute best friend (I HATE it when people have more than 1 best friend...the term, best is singular people!) married a man 15 years her senior, and is very happy. Her mom was quite upset at first, until we pointed out that she (the mother) had married a man 15 years her junior, and had a great marriage. That sure shut her up!

My friend's sister-in law (married to her husband's brother) calls her a gold-digger, because the guy is fairly well off, being a petroleum engineer (they live in Dubai). I'd like to smack that witch right where it hurts most! The last thing my friend cares about it money.

What are people's shaving preferences around the nether regions? I like a guy's hair to be short, so I'm not picking it out of my teeth constantly...but fully shaved would do nothing for me at all. I like to be trim and neat, myself.

I'll shave around the bikini line for a bathing suit or sexy undies, but I haven't ever shaved the whole area. I trim the rest fairly short, however.

I agree with the guy's hair being short. I have to talk my boyfriend into it though. He won't do it himself, and gets a little nervous with anyone having scissors anywhere near that area. :eek: I did talk him into it once though. I cut it for him, and then rewarded him for letting me do it... Maybe I should try that again. :p

I'd like to smack that witch right where it hurts most! The last thing my friend cares about it money.

In her nipples?

Yeah-yeah- Thats what they all say. "OOOh-look at me! I'm different-I dont care about money"

It's those evil communists spoiling our country. They make people afraid of money so they don't want to talk about it, and advocate vulgarity and immorality. We must outlaw these immoral ideologies that are destroying our capitalist Christian right-wing paradise!!!
i love you, lets do it

I'll shave around the bikini line for a bathing suit or sexy undies, but I haven't ever shaved the whole area.I did once. It was bloody awful - I was itching for days for some reason and looked ridiculous! I tend to trim these days, but rarely much more than that.

In her nipples?

Yeah-yeah- Thats what they all say. "OOOh-look at me! I'm different-I dont care about money"
She doesn't care about money, because she's been working since she was 12 (like me), bought some land, and has some pretty substantial savings. The woman works construction, and makes fantastic money. He has MORE money...but so what? She doesn't wear designer clothes, she bought her own Harley, and is about as financially independent as they come. His money is his, and her money is hers. Now, if she quit her job and lived off his salary, perhaps the gold-digging comment would stick.

By the way, this friend of mine is like my white twin. It's weird! She was born a day before me, same year, we are the same height and bra size, though she's got narrow hips and I can't steal her pants:) Sister light, sister dark. You'd like her.

"standing on top,
of the world..."


I heard a good line once where the guy said "My dream wife hasnt been born yet".

You were actually able to say this!
LOL! Well, perhaps I could have said it ... but I didn't! ;)

She was born a day before me, same year, we are the same height and bra size, though she's got narrow hips and I can't steal her pants:) Sister light, sister dark. You'd like her.


maybe I'll steal her pants...

My boyfriend and I got a lot of stick when we met - nothing serious, just banter, but I considered it irritating nonetheless - because he's 10 years my senior. I was 19 at the time, and he was (presumably 'jokingly') accused of being a cradle snatcher. As if I wasn't an adult in my own right, capable of independent thought and decisions! Fuck it! As long as you both get on well and all of that other sentimental shit, who cares about age differences? ;) That applies whether the man or the woman is older. Love is all you need... Or lust, perhaps :D
Lust lasts longer. :D

That's one of the major reasons CSG and I are so involved with each other. Both of us are deeply erotic and sensual, and the opportunity for both of us just couldn't be passed up! :D

Right, I'm a bit of a latecomer to this thread, and I would like to raise a (hopefully interesting) point: that of losing one's virginity.

I know it's always a much bigger deal for girls, and boys are meant to be the more experienced ones even at the same age. Despite the fact that girls mature earlier than boys.

A friend of a friend apparently took her own virginity with a dildo, because she didn't want to with a man - whether she thought it would be too messy/embarrassing/painful (well, probably it would be the same amount of pain, but more in her control and less inconvenient) I don't know.

Thoughts?

A friend of a friend apparently took her own virginity with a dildo, because she didn't want to with a man - whether she thought it would be too messy/embarrassing/painful (well, probably it would be the same amount of pain, but more in her control and less inconvenient) I don't know.

Thoughts?
I don't consider virginity to be the simply act of tearing a membrane. You can do that in various ways. Virginity, to me, is lost when someone has sex with someone else. And I wouldn't consider someone who's just engaged in oral sex a virgin.

Losing your virginity is built up too much. It's almost always a disappointing experience, because experience is exactly what you lack.

I don't consider virginity to be the simply act of tearing a membrane. You can do that in various ways. Virginity, to me, is lost when someone has sex with someone else. And I wouldn't consider someone who's just engaged in oral sex a virgin.

Losing your virginity is built up too much. It's almost always a disappointing experience, because experience is exactly what you lack.


Yeah-once you've "seen the Wolf", no more virgin, in my book.

I don't consider virginity to be the simply act of tearing a membrane. You can do that in various ways. Virginity, to me, is lost when someone has sex with someone else. And I wouldn't consider someone who's just engaged in oral sex a virgin.Exactly. My hymen was broken way before I ever had sex - through use of tampons, sporting activities, whatever. I still very much considered myself a virgin. I also agree that someone who has taken part in sex acts that have not included penetration is not a virgin, in all but the most literal of senses.

Losing your virginity is built up too much. It's almost always a disappointing experience, because experience is exactly what you lack.I think this is also very true. I can honestly say I don't even remember my first time (well, I remember who and when and where of course, but I don't remember the act itself). In fact, although I've always had a strong sex drive, I thought that sex itself was really quite shit until I met my current boyfriend.

I think this is also very true. I can honestly say I don't even remember my first time (well, I remember who and when and where of course, but I don't remember the act itself). In fact, although I've always had a strong sex drive, I thought that sex itself was really quite shit until I met my current boyfriend.
Amen to the strong sex drive, but the constant disappointment! I slept around a lot, trying to find a decent fuck. (and for other reasons, but lust figured prominently) I was usually disappointed...sheesh those boys couldn't last!!! It wasn't until I was with someone long-term that I learned sex is better the more you know about each other, and the more time you have to perfect it.

I agree that it's more than tearing a membrane. As for oral sex, strangely my boyfriend and I only did that after we had penetrative sex.

I'm interested to know where/when/how you all lost your virginity, and if you'd change it at all.

As for me, I had been 17 for 8 days and it was our 1 year anniversary (actually it was slightly after because we didn't get round to it until after midnight :rolleyes: ). As I recall we were at Reading music festival, aka in a tent on an airbed, and as it was an English summer night it was, of course, freezing cold. It was interesting to say the least, but given another chance I wouldn't change it. It was memorable, different, and it sort of meant something, it being (almost) our anniversary and all. I'm of the opinion that it wouldn't have been any more pleasant had we done it at any other time/place.
And at least we had our privacy and didn't have to worry about staining the sheets!

I'd been going out and 'parking' with a guy I wasn't dating, but who I'd wanted since seventh grade, and who I had this weird close, not quite sexual relationship with since then. I was 16, barely, and we had sex in the back seat (how cliche). It hurt, and was over way too quick. Not very memorable.

I'd been in more erotic, sexual situations than that beforehand, but this was the real 'losing of my virginity'.

Hi, I'm not sure if this counts as a viable topic on a 'Sex' discussion, but is anyone here asexual (or knows someone who is)? And before we have all of those 'wittily original' biology wisecracks, I refer of course to the psychological state of asexuality, as opposed to the procreation of single-celled life :headbang: .

Hi, I'm not sure if this counts as a viable topic on a 'Sex' discussion, but is anyone here asexual (or knows someone who is)? And before we have all of those 'wittily original' biology wisecracks, I refer of course to the psychological state of asexuality, as opposed to the procreation of single-celled life :headbang: .
I've met a couple of people who were asexual, in the sense that they had zero sex drive. There were medical reasons I'm not familiar with, but none of them seemed interested in dealing with the issue medically.

I can't believe that The Sex Thread slipped to page two! Only on NS!

In fact, although I've always had a strong sex drive, I thought that sex itself was really quite shit until I met my current boyfriend.
Funny the differences between male and female. I've never come across attitudes like this in men. What does Sinuhue think?

Right, I'm a bit of a latecomer to this thread, and I would like to raise a (hopefully interesting) point: that of losing one's virginity.

I know it's always a much bigger deal for girls, and boys are meant to be the more experienced ones even at the same age. Despite the fact that girls mature earlier than boys.

A friend of a friend apparently took her own virginity with a dildo, because she didn't want to with a man - whether she thought it would be too messy/embarrassing/painful (well, probably it would be the same amount of pain, but more in her control and less inconvenient) I don't know.

Thoughts?

Well, I consider losing one's virginity to be the first time one has penetrative sex (oral doesn't count to me - and is a different experience altogether).

I lost my virginity about a month before I turned 20, to I guy I'd been dating for the better part of a year. It hurt quite a bit, probably partially because he expected it to and did nothing to alleviate that. The two times we tried it after were also painful, although a bit less so. Within a month, he decided he wanted to date other people and we broke up, so there have been times when I wished I hadn't had sex with him.

My only other partner has been my current one - and he's wonderful. He's the person who introduced actual pleasurable sex to me. =)

Sex? Sex???? Did I see the word sex? Darnit, now I'm sure to become a forum addict... hmph. Wait, this gives me an idea for a new (?) thread! Damn boredom anyhow.

Hi, I'm not sure if this counts as a viable topic on a 'Sex' discussion, but is anyone here asexual (or knows someone who is)? And before we have all of those 'wittily original' biology wisecracks, I refer of course to the psychological state of asexuality, as opposed to the procreation of single-celled life :headbang: .Asexuality is not uncommon, as far as I am aware. I've read several articles on it and a recommended website was www.asexuality.org. I've personally never met anyone (that I'm aware of) who feels this way, but as I say, it's apparently not that unheard of.

I'm interested to know where/when/how you all lost your virginity, and if you'd change it at all.I was 18 and had met this bloke via the net (funnily enough, I met my current boyfriend the same way!). We went on a couple of dates, and he was very charming. Sex didn't really cross my mind that much, but when we eventually got to his house, it became clear he wanted it. I didn't give in for a while, but eventually I did relent, even though I wasn't that keen on the idea. As I said somewhere, I don't even remember the first time! We did it a few times after that before we broke up, but it was crap!

Would I change anything? For a while I wished I hadn't done it, and had 'saved myself' for my real love, my current boyfriend. However, I don't really 'do' regret, and anyway, I learnt from it that emotional connection really makes sex considerably better. It provided an interesting contrast from my current love life.

Alright, I am 7 inches long and I hear the average is six, so I'm content, but though I feel for the guy who's below average it brings up a few questions.

RECOGNIZING that i don't know any other persons size in the entire world

Alright, would they not make the average lower if theyre going to announce it, i mean, wouldnt it give depression to every person UNDER 6 inches. And considering it, wouldnt there have to be quite a few considering there are guys with 12s (even thats a stretch to call it natural, i mean, who are you kidding) but that would take 6 people who are 5 inches or 3 people who are 4 inches. I mean, theres got to be quite a few people...now i know this is touchy ground...but so is a sex thread in general and yall are askin for openness. Ill be back in a week or so, so if yall can respond when i get back thatd be cool. Anyway, one more question to ponder cuz i g2g in 5 min and lots to do...

What does it matter the size, i mean, the girls not gonna find out til youve got your pants off and whats she gonna do then, o sorry, your penis is too small, i mean, that would be really, inconceivably evil and i dont think ANYONE would be THAT evil. So what does it really matter, plus, its harder to mpregnate with a smaller dick, so for some guys it would be better and according to Darwin the small dicked people would slowly die out so over time the bigger and better dicks would prevail...so live while you can...alright now im being stupid, i gotta go, think bout it, im gonna post the gun smilies for no reason, there might be a comp at the hotel so i might be able to answer there, adios til then. :sniper: :mp5: :gundge: :headbang: :fluffle:

Actually, the average "size" for an American is 5-1/8 inches... Or so I've read.

despite that being better for me, it still brings up the same questions...

Well, size really doesn't matter ... to some women. To others, it's important in the extreme. I've been unable to figure out any common denominator in either group, so it must be simply a personal preference. For most women, just enough size to properly open her so that she can feel him seems to be adequate.

EDIT: Most women who prefer greater size seem to be most interested in this factor as the sex gets more and more intense, particulary when mutual orgasm seems inevitable.

What does it matter the size, i mean, the girls not gonna find out til youve got your pants off and whats she gonna do then, o sorry, your penis is too small, i mean, that would be really, inconceivably evil and i dont think ANYONE would be THAT evil.

I know someone THAT evil. She said, "We were going to have sex but when he took off his boxers he was only the size of my little finger, and that was when he was erect, so I laughed in his face and left and haven't spoken to him since... I sort of regret it now because I didn't mean to make him feel bad, but I just couldn't help it at the time" (along those lines) :rolleyes:

And, are these averages taken when erect or not? (sooooo tempted to use the word "flaccid"... so many men I know hate that word ;))

I'd be interested in knowing how many people have been, as I usually put it, "completely swept away?" This is when the sex is so intense that everything else goes away. It's when either of you would say or do virtually anything because you're in a different place, where intensity is the norm and pleasure the only objective.

I know someone THAT evil. She said, "We were going to have sex but when he took off his boxers he was only the size of my little finger, and that was when he was erect, so I laughed in his face and left and haven't spoken to him since... I sort of regret it now because I didn't mean to make him feel bad, but I just couldn't help it at the time" (along those lines) :rolleyes:

And, are these averages taken when erect or not? (sooooo tempted to use the word "flaccid"... so many men I know hate that word ;))
That is almost unutterably cruel. She sounds very young and very, very immature and inconsiderate.

"Flaccid" has some rather negative connotations for most men. :D

That is almost unutterably cruel. She sounds very young and very, very immature and inconsiderate.

"Flaccid" has some rather negative connotations for most men. :D

Well, indeed (to both points). I think she was 17 or 18 at the time (my age :eek: ); now she's 22 I think and has a 1 year old son. I think she's decided she's lesbian now anyway though, so men out there, you needn't fear her mirth.

Actually, the average "size" for an American is 5-1/8 inches... Or so I've read.

How does anyone know? I don't remember my doctor every breathing on the end of the tape measure to warm it up.

Do people volunteer and why would someone who knows they are small volunteer?

There was a survey recently where 75% of 15 year olds said that they have had sex. I was astounded.

When I was 15, we all said we had had sex.

Well, indeed (to both points). I think she was 17 or 18 at the time (my age :eek: ); now she's 22 I think and has a 1 year old son. I think she's decided she's lesbian now anyway though, so men out there, you needn't fear her mirth.
She sounds ... confused. :D

How does anyone know? I don't remember my doctor every breathing on the end of the tape measure to warm it up.

Do people volunteer and why would someone who knows they are small volunteer?

There was a survey recently where 75% of 15 year olds said that they have had sex. I was astounded.

When I was 15, we all said we had had sex.
LOL! Well, I can't contribute much to either of these topics, since my fist experience was at 12 and I've never had any complaints about the other! LOL! :D

well the guy who was taking us to Boston got into a car crash...so good as in hes not hurt and i can talk...bad as in im not goin to Boston

But yea, so i guess from the astonishingly large amounts of posts since i last posted that the average, though confusing how it was gotten, seems correct?

And as with any mean, results could still be skewed - an average of say, 6 inches could be EVERYONE is 6 inches, many 6-inchers with equal numbers of 5- and 7-inchers, or in an extreme case one 12-incher and several 1-inchers.

Maybe we need both the mean and the modal values?

What? No one's ever been this way???

I'd be interested in knowing how many people have been, as I usually put it, "completely swept away?" This is when the sex is so intense that everything else goes away. It's when either of you would say or do virtually anything because you're in a different place, where intensity is the norm and pleasure the only objective.

And as with any mean, results could still be skewed - an average of say, 6 inches could be EVERYONE is 6 inches, many 6-inchers with equal numbers of 5- and 7-inchers, or in an extreme case one 12-incher and several 1-inchers.

Maybe we need both the mean and the modal values?
ROFLMAO!!! WTF does it matter? :D

Nope. Sadly, at the moment sex is seeming a bit too much like hard work. But you know what they say, practice makes perfect :D

I'd be interested in knowing how many people have been, as I usually put it, "completely swept away?" This is when the sex is so intense that everything else goes away. It's when either of you would say or do virtually anything because you're in a different place, where intensity is the norm and pleasure the only objective.Yes, that's happened to me a couple of times. Mostly during the first few months of our relationship - that 'honeymoon period' is such a magical time. The sex is fantastic and as Eut says, can completely sweep you away. Also, you're learning about each other in other ways too.

Anyway, the most recent example that sticks in my head most was when I'd been sending him dirty text messages all day from work. I jumped on him when we got through the door - unfortunately, I knocked his guitar flying in the process, which kind of spoilt the moment and left me feeling really stupid!

As far as size goes, I really don't give a damn. Admittedly, my experience is not extensive, but I really believe it's what you do with it that counts :) I'd also speculate that width size is probably more important than length size, but either way it's not a big deal.

Yes, that's happened to me a couple of times. Mostly during the first few months of our relationship - that 'honeymoon period' is such a magical time. The sex is fantastic and as Eut says, can completely sweep you away. Also, you're learning about each other in other ways too.

Anyway, the most recent example that sticks in my head most was when I'd been sending him dirty text messages all day from work. I jumped on him when we got through the door - unfortunately, I knocked his guitar flying in the process, which kind of spoilt the moment and left me feeling really stupid!

As far as size goes, I really don't give a damn. Admittedly, my experience is not huge, but I really believe it's what you do with it that counts :) I'd also speculate that width size is probably more important than length size, but either way it's not a big deal.
Isn't that a great place to be though? I've been there several times in my life, the most recent being last night! And it's totally, totally awesome.

With me, it has to do with both of us learning what really turns the other on, and then learning how to use that knowledge to build the intensity until it's almost unbearable.

I've discovered over the years that most women do indeed seem to prefer thickness over length, when there is a preference. :)

Nope. Sadly, at the moment sex is seeming a bit too much like hard work. But you know what they say, practice makes perfect :D
Sigh. I'm sorry. But, as they say, anything worth having is worth working for, including great sex. This sort of thing doesn't usually "just happen." It's almost always the result of study, experience and understanding of the other's wants and desires. This is one of the major reasons I don't care at all for "one night stands." Yes, you can get a bit of "relief" with those, but you seldom have time to get to know the other person's turn-ons, turn-offs, trigger points, nerve senstitivity, fantasies, etc. That elminiates about three-fourth's of what sex is all about.

Isn't that a great place to be though? I've been there several times in my life, the most recent being last night! And it's totally, totally awesome.Definitely. It's such an overwhelming experience - sexually, mentally and emotionally. While I still consider my relationship an excellent one (nearly two and a half years down the line), parts of me miss that early time, when everything was so new and exciting. By the way, it sounds like you had fun last night - keep up the good work ;)

With me, it has to do with both of us learning what really turns the other on, and then learning how to use that knowledge to build the intensity until it's almost unbearable. Precisely. I remember one night, shortly after we'd met, we were at his parents house and got talking about all the kinky things that turned us on. Obviously, we couldn't do them all then and there, so waiting to be able to use our newly found knowledge was pretty difficult - but it made it all the more interesting when we eventually got down to it :)

Definitely. It's such an overwhelming experience - sexually, mentally and emotionally. While I still consider my relationship an excellent one (nearly two and a half years down the line), parts of me miss that early time, when everything was so new and exciting. By the way, it sounds like you had fun last night - keep up the good work ;)

Precisely. I remember one night, shortly after we'd met, we were at his parents house and got talking about all the kinky things that turned us on. Obviously, we couldn't do them all then and there, so waiting to be able to use our newly found knowledge was pretty difficult - but it made it all the more interesting when we eventually got down to it :)
LOL! Mmmm! You understand whereof I speak ... a wise human indeed! :D

Having to delay using your new-found knowledge of each other's "secret desires" probably only served to heighten the anticipation, and increase the liklihood of total involvement when the knowledge could be put into practice. One of the primary principles of pleasure I have learned over the years is that "pleasure delayed is pleasure enhanced." Sometimes it's just wise to wait for it ... you'll be glad you did! :D

LOL! Mmmm! You understand whereof I speak ... a wise human indeed! :DWhy, thank you, kind sir :D

Having to delay using your new-found knowledge of each other's "secret desires" probably only served to heighten the anticipation, and increase the liklihood of total involvement when the knowledge could be put into practice. One of the primary principles of pleasure I have learned over the years is that "pleasure delayed is pleasure enhanced." Sometimes it's just wise to wait for it ... you'll be glad you did! :DGood advice! My boyfriend goes in a bit for the dominant/submissive thing (we me in the position of dominance), so perhaps tonight I'll suggest a little bit of that - but keep him waiting for a day or two before he actually gets it :p

Anyway, I'm off now - to spend the weekend with him...once I try out the above idea, I'll try implementing some of the suggestions I've got from this thread! :) Enjoy your weekend, all, and happy sex-threading (and happy sex in real life, for that matter :D)!

Why, thank you, kind sir :D

Good advice! My boyfriend goes in a bit for the dominant/submissive thing (we me in the position of dominance), so perhaps tonight I'll suggest a little bit of that - but keep him waiting for a day or two before he actually gets it :p

Anyway, I'm off now - to spend the weekend with him...once I try out the above idea, I'll try implementing some of the suggestions I've got from this thread! :) Enjoy your weekend, all, and happy sex-threading (and happy sex in real life, for that matter :D)!
LOL! Kewl! Thank you for the well-wishes! ;)

Surprisingly enough, my current partner and I both go in for the Dom/sub variations too, with her being very submissive during sex which encourages me to be more Dominant. The intensity is sometimes almost more than either of us can stand! Whew!

Losing your virginity is built up too much. It's almost always a disappointing experience, because experience is exactly what you lack.I loved my first time. It was very fun indeed - in large part why I enjoy sex so much now. I had no hymen, a blessing, IMO. I didn't attach any signifigance to my first time, though. That could have something to do with my positive experience.

I loved my first time. It was very fun indeed - in large part why I enjoy sex so much now. I had no hymen, a blessing, IMO. I didn't attach any signifigance to my first time, though. That could have something to do with my positive experience.
Sounds as if you found someone who knew what they were doing. That can make a world of difference in how a young woman views sex for many years.

What does it matter the size, i mean, the girls not gonna find out til youve got your pants off and whats she gonna do then, o sorry, your penis is too small, i mean, that would be really, inconceivably evil and i dont think ANYONE would be THAT evil.I don't think you'd have to be evil to do that, but if you do, then call me evil. I've never had to, but if I found out that my date had a small jhonson, I wouldn't have sex with him just to be nice. If love were involved, it'd be a different story, but I don't have sex when I know that I'm not going to enjoy myself.
So what does it really matter, plus, its harder to mpregnate with a smaller dick, so for some guys it would be better and according to Darwin the small dicked people would slowly die out so over time the bigger and better dicks would prevail...so live while you can...alright now im being stupid,At least you are aware. :p

Funny the differences between male and female. I've never come across attitudes like this in men. What does Sinuhue think?
Sinuhue agrees...strong sex drive, but general disappointment in sex for a long time. Until I settle down with my husband and got serious about achieving pleasure. The guys before were just too damn hasty :mad:

This thread could go to so many places.....we have everything here from sex ed to "being swept away". To, I am not sure what. A comment though, I am an extremely open individual, two consenting adults, no matter gender, race or relationship status should be able to enjoy each other. My only requirement is some sort of connection. I prefer tantric sex myself. It is so much more in tune and at the moment I have been practicing it with my best friend. I will also comment that two women are much more intense than two people of different genders could ever be. But that is just my thought. If it makes you happy and doesn't hurt anyone do it. Just be honest about it.

Alright, I am 7 inches long and I hear the average is six, so I'm content, but though I feel for the guy who's below average it brings up a few questions.

RECOGNIZING that i don't know any other persons size in the entire world

Alright, would they not make the average lower if theyre going to announce it, i mean, wouldnt it give depression to every person UNDER 6 inches. And considering it, wouldnt there have to be quite a few considering there are guys with 12s (even thats a stretch to call it natural, i mean, who are you kidding) but that would take 6 people who are 5 inches or 3 people who are 4 inches. I mean, theres got to be quite a few people...now i know this is touchy ground...but so is a sex thread in general and yall are askin for openness. Ill be back in a week or so, so if yall can respond when i get back thatd be cool. Anyway, one more question to ponder cuz i g2g in 5 min and lots to do...


I know Carn will disagree, as may others, but it's true in my mind that size doesn't matter all that much...not unless you've going straight for pleasure-through-penetration-only. And frankly, big or small, that never got me off on its own. I think the whole idea of average is a crock of shit. I've been with very large guys, and very small guys, and frankly, the size made no difference in the enjoyment (or lack of). Skill did.

I don't want a huge salami...it frickin' hurts! I've got a sensitive cervix that tends to bleed when banged on too hard, and painful sex is not very encouraging...I like painful stimulation, but not actual pain during sex. I don't think guys need to feel bad about whatever size they are...they should feel bad only if they are selfish, and think only of their own pleasure, and leave the lady panting and incomplete.

I know someone THAT evil. She said, "We were going to have sex but when he took off his boxers he was only the size of my little finger, and that was when he was erect, so I laughed in his face and left and haven't spoken to him since... I sort of regret it now because I didn't mean to make him feel bad, but I just couldn't help it at the time" (along those lines) :rolleyes:

And, are these averages taken when erect or not? (sooooo tempted to use the word "flaccid"... so many men I know hate that word ;))
And different groups vary in the extreme in terms of flaccid versus erect...black men are larger when flaccid than the 'average', but that just means they don't 'grow' that much when erect compared to other groups who can be pretty teensy when flaccid, but just perfect when erect. And the 'averages' are taken when erect.

I have never, ever made fun of a guy. Not even some of the real jerks. Nor did I ever denigrate a man's skill, even when they sucked, and were assholes to boot. I would never want someone running around saying such things about me, so it's a golden rule sort of thing. It's a sensitive subject, and should be treated with sensitivity. I always hated people who would tell others that so and so 'was lousy in the sack'. Grow up.

What? No one's ever been this way???

I'd be interested in knowing how many people have been, as I usually put it, "completely swept away?" This is when the sex is so intense that everything else goes away. It's when either of you would say or do virtually anything because you're in a different place, where intensity is the norm and pleasure the only objective.

I've been there. The first time I got that way was probably the first time my boyfriend and I had sex. He was the first partner I had who (despite the fact that he didn't have much more experience than me) actually knew what he was doing. Unlike my first partner, "It's just going to hurt the girl the first couple of times," didn't cut it for him. He was going to make sure I enjoyed it - and I can guarrantee that I did. =) On top of it being the first time sex was purely pleasurable (and incredibly intense) for me, my boyfriend and I were making a new emotional connection as well - which just heightened the experience.

I'd be interested in knowing how many people have been, as I usually put it, "completely swept away?" This is when the sex is so intense that everything else goes away. It's when either of you would say or do virtually anything because you're in a different place, where intensity is the norm and pleasure the only objective.
Yeah, that's happened to me twice. And it was bad. Once was before the husband, so that was fine, but the other was a few months after I met the husband. Swept away by a lust so intense that I became totally shameless. It was weird! The second time, the only reason I didn't cheat was because the guy removed himself from the situation. I've never burned so absolutely with a senseless attraction...I didn't know either guy very well, and didn't really care much about them truth be told...but it was something unexpected and completely animal. Dangerous that...

This thread could go to so many places.....we have everything here from sex ed to "being swept away". To, I am not sure what. A comment though, I am an extremely open individual, two consenting adults, no matter gender, race or relationship status should be able to enjoy each other. My only requirement is some sort of connection. I prefer tantric sex myself. It is so much more in tune and at the moment I have been practicing it with my best friend. I will also comment that two women are much more intense than two people of different genders could ever be. But that is just my thought. If it makes you happy and doesn't hurt anyone do it. Just be honest about it.
Kewl! I have always felt that what adults do in their own homes is nobody's business but their own. Go for it! ;)

I do not agree, however, with your comment about two women being much more intense that other couples. I have been involved in sex with a woman that was so intense both of us almost passed out.

Sounds as if you found someone who knew what they were doing. That can make a world of difference in how a young woman views sex for many years.
My first time was a let down, but that didn't make me any less interested in doing it as much as was humanly possible :)

Yeah, that's happened to me twice. And it was bad. Once was before the husband, so that was fine, but the other was a few months after I met the husband. Swept away by a lust so intense that I became totally shameless. It was weird! The second time, the only reason I didn't cheat was because the guy removed himself from the situation. I've never burned so absolutely with a senseless attraction...I didn't know either guy very well, and didn't really care much about them truth be told...but it was something unexpected and completely animal. Dangerous that...
VERY dangerous. It's as if you would be willing to give the other person anything, even your very soul!

BTW ... becoming "totally shameless" is fun too! LOL! :D

My first time was a let down, but that didn't make me any less interested in doing it as much as was humanly possible :)
LOL! You GO, girl! :D

VERY dangerous. It's as if you would be willing to give the other person anything, even your very soul!

BTW ... becoming "totally shameless" is fun too! LOL! :D
Not like this it wasn't...and the first time it was just a one-night stand...I imagine had I caved in that the second time would've been too. Well, no amount of unreasonable lust is worth breaking up a good relationship over, so I'm glad that didn't happen!

I've been there. The first time I got that way was probably the first time my boyfriend and I had sex. He was the first partner I had who (despite the fact that he didn't have much more experience than me) actually knew what he was doing. Unlike my first partner, "It's just going to hurt the girl the first couple of times," didn't cut it for him. He was going to make sure I enjoyed it - and I can guarrantee that I did. =) On top of it being the first time sex was purely pleasurable (and incredibly intense) for me, my boyfriend and I were making a new emotional connection as well - which just heightened the experience.
Cheers for your boyfriend then. At least he had enough sense to realize that you could enjoy it too. You were very lucky to have him early on. :)

Sounds as if you found someone who knew what they were doing. That can make a world of difference in how a young woman views sex for many years.Oh, the guy was totally clueless. I didn't tell him I was a virgin either.
Maybe I'm just lucky. He didn't last very long, or have much skill, but I still got off. I have had bad experiences since, but they have been few and far between. The fact that my first experience was good makes every bad time since seem like a real anomally.

Not like this it wasn't...and the first time it was just a one-night stand...I imagine had I caved in that the second time would've been too. Well, no amount of unreasonable lust is worth breaking up a good relationship over, so I'm glad that didn't happen!
That's true. I didn't mean you should surrender to those feelings regardless of the impact on others, only that surrendering within the right context can be a true "peak experience." :)

Oh, the guy was totally clueless. I didn't tell him I was a virgin either.
Maybe I'm just lucky. He didn't last very long, or have much skill, but I still got off. I have had bad experiences since, but they have been few and far between. The fact that my first experience was good makes every bad time since seem like a real anomally.
Well, actually, the "bad" times ARE anomalous. Think about it ... humans have spread across the globe even though it takes nine months for gestation and at least twelve or fifteen years before a child can be on its own. The only way that could happen is for sex to be an incredible experience for both the male and female of the species.

The norm IS great sex. It's usually only lack of knowledge or social repression which makes it anything else.

to be honest when you have been married as long as i have (31 yrs) for those of you who are intrested, sex doesn`t happen very often, i would like it to but as you get older the health problems start then the medication that can squash the libido it hurts to think that your partner no longer wants sex very much, but u just have to put up with it as i could no more have an affair then fly to the moon :rolleyes:

to be honest when you have been married as long as i have (31 yrs) for those of you who are intrested, sex doesn`t happen very often, i would like it to but as you get older the health problems start then the medication that can squash the libido it hurts to think that your partner no longer wants sex very much, but u just have to put up with it as i could no more have an affair then fly to the moon :rolleyes:
Sorry. I call BS. I know couples who've been together less than 5 years, and the sex already sucks. I know couples who've been together for 40, and it's still good. (Yeah, I hang around with dirty old folks too:)). Sex is what you make of it, and yes, it takes effort to keep it good. Health can absolutely be an issue, but that's just another factor that needs to be dealt with in order to keep the love life going. Bad sex is NOT an inevitability (a fear I think that is the main reason some people avoid commitment.)

Well, actually, the "bad" times ARE anomalous. Think about it ... humans have spread across the globe even though it takes nine months for gestation and at least twelve or fifteen years before a child can be on its own. The only way that could happen is for sex to be an incredible experience for both the male and female of the species.

The norm IS great sex. It's usually only lack of knowledge or social repression which makes it anything else.

I don't agree that the norm is great sex. I don't agree that great sex is the reason for the huge human population. For you to be right, social repression and lack of knowlege would have to be a fairly recent phenomena. I think it's probably as old as the hills. Sex has always been a charged issue, as has the issue of pleasure.

It is not biologically imperative that the woman enjoy sex. It HELPS...but it's only important that the male reaches orgasm. Sad but true. Thank god we can move beyond reproduction when we choose...

to be honest when you have been married as long as i have (31 yrs) for those of you who are intrested, sex doesn`t happen very often, i would like it to but as you get older the health problems start then the medication that can squash the libido it hurts to think that your partner no longer wants sex very much, but u just have to put up with it as i could no more have an affair then fly to the moon :rolleyes:
That doesn't have to be true.

I'm 62 and I love sex even more now that I did at 22, if such a thing is possible. Any doctor worth his or her salt can talk with you about medication side-effects and find a way around them. And if you want, I'll come kick your hubby in the ass and get him kick-started! LOL! :D

Well, since everyone is sharing, my first time was in two parts, where the first part was a disaster. (The guy was a class mate, weirdly enough.)

Part 1: At a party I got a bit much to drink and pursued him into the bathroom, where one thing led to another and I started to fellate him. His was quite large, so much so that I in my drunk newbish state chocked on it and had to push him away, so I could throw up in the toilet. Killed the mood totally, and I ran home, mortified, thinking of what it was going to be like in school the day after. Luckily for me, he was nice, so he followed me home the following day and wondered if he had done anything wrong, if he'd hurt me. "Aww," I know.

Part 2: So, we got talking and decided to try again the same day, but we couldn't go home to my parents, because they were not in the know at the time (and, if you ask me, still aren't really, but there ya go), so we went over to his place, but we only made it into his garden. There were some bushes and trees there that offered a bit of seclusion and that was where the act was finally finished. Thank goodness he was such a nice guy. He was the first I let penetrate me, but that didn't happen until a while afterwards, and that's a bit too private to share, I think...

I have never, ever made fun of a guy. Not even some of the real jerks.Jerks need to be taken down a notch.

Nor did I ever denigrate a man's skill, even when they sucked, and were assholes to boot.Don't you have any sympathy for the chicks he's going to have sex with after you? Tell him if he doesn't know what he's doing. Please, for all our sakes, tell him.

I would never want someone running around saying such things about me, so it's a golden rule sort of thing. It's a sensitive subject, and should be treated with sensitivity. I always hated people who would tell others that so and so 'was lousy in the sack'. Grow up.Very few women are as completely unconcerned with their partner's pleasure as some of the guys I've met. I will tell anyone I like at all to avoid banging a guy whom I happen to know is an inconsiderate lover.

Grow up.I'm good, thanks.

I don't think guys need to feel bad about whatever size they are...they should feel bad only if they are selfish, and think only of their own pleasure, and leave the lady panting and incomplete.
I totally agree with this. Sometimes it can be a bit difficult to get some women to the goalposts, but to simply give up and focus on your own pleasure is a definite no-no! :)

He was the first I let penetrate me, but that didn't happen until a while afterwards, and that's a bit too private to share, I think...
You already have :eek:

Jerks need to be taken down a notch.

Don't you have any sympathy for the chicks he's going to have sex with after you? Tell him if he doesn't know what he's doing. Please, for all our sakes, tell him.

Very few women are as completely unconcerned with their partner's pleasure as some of the guys I've met. I will tell anyone I like at all to avoid banging a guy whom I happen to know is an inconsiderate lover.

I'm good, thanks.
Oxwana, there is a difference between making fun of someone, and telling them (privately) that they were lousy in bed, and why. I refuse to do the former. And THAT'S what I'm talking about. I'm not going to go around and say, 'so and so is lousy in bed' or 'so and so has a really tiny penis, ha ha ha'. I don't care what the person is like, that is a low way of dealing with someone who is a creep.

You already have :eek:

I have? :confused:

I have? :confused:
All that's missing are the intimate details...but we have the general outline, and can colour the rest in ourselves, if necessary :D

All that's missing are the intimate details...but we have the general outline, and can colour the rest in ourselves, if necessary :D

Oh, when you put it that way, it feels so diminished somehow, but, you're right in it being everything you need to know about it, so, I guess I did.

Hmm. :\

Oh, when you put it that way, it feels so diminished somehow, but, you're right in it being everything you need to know about it, so, I guess I did.

Hmm. :\
hahahaha...ah Fass, don't worry, I was being silly more than anything...you kind of let the cat out of the bag already, but we don't know if it's a tabby or a siamese:)

I was just tickled that you said, "We did this, but that's too private to share", and I took you literally (on purpose) and said, "But hey, you did share..." as in, you might as well give all the details now:)

It was my joking way of pressuring you without pressuring you.

and I'm done now :D

It's not that hard to color the rest in. :fluffle: :D

I don't agree that the norm is great sex. I don't agree that great sex is the reason for the huge human population. For you to be right, social repression and lack of knowlege would have to be a fairly recent phenomena. I think it's probably as old as the hills. Sex has always been a charged issue, as has the issue of pleasure.

It is not biologically imperative that the woman enjoy sex. It HELPS...but it's only important that the male reaches orgasm. Sad but true. Thank god we can move beyond reproduction when we choose...
I disagree to an extent. It's because sex is so involving, pleasureable and intense that it has overcome social repression in a multitude of times and places. If it weren't so pleasureable, for both male and female, people wouldn't pursue it with the single-mindedness they always have.

Other than mercifully brief periods in our history, the norm has been that women enjoy sex, which makes for great sex, which usually makes more people! :D

hahahaha...ah Fass, don't worry, I was being silly more than anything...you kind of let the cat out of the bag already, but we don't know if it's a tabby or a siamese:)

Oh, but I didn't really think I'd let out anything that wasn't already out there, I mean, it would be weird if I had no experience in the area, being a gay man and all, but, yeah, I should shut my yap. :)

Well, since everyone is sharing, my first time was in two parts, where the first part was a disaster. (The guy was a class mate, weirdly enough.)

Part 1: At a party I got a bit much to drink and pursued him into the bathroom, where one thing led to another and I started to fellate him. His was quite large, so much so that I in my drunk newbish state chocked on it and had to push him away, so I could throw up in the toilet. Killed the mood totally, and I ran home, mortified, thinking of what it was going to be like in school the day after. Luckily for me, he was nice, so he followed me home the following day and wondered if he had done anything wrong, if he'd hurt me. "Aww," I know.SUrprise surprise, a guy who you did sexual favours for is eager to get into your good graces. :p
j/k. It really is sweet. Hot, too. Not the puking part.


Part 2: So, we got talking and decided to try again the same day, but we couldn't go home to my parents, because they were not in the know at the time (and, if you ask me, still aren't really, but there ya go), so we went over to his place, but we only made it into his garden. There were some bushes and trees there that offered a bit of seclusion and that was where the act was finally finished. Thank goodness he was such a nice guy. He was the first I let penetrate me, but that didn't happen until a while afterwards, and that's a bit too private to share, I think...Awwwww. You tease.

Other than mercifully brief periods in our history, the norm has been that women enjoy sex, which makes for great sex, which usually makes more people! :D
What evidence would make you believe this?

For much of history, women have been forced into marriage, often at a young age, and often with men much older than them. The purpose of a wife was to bear children, not to enjoy sex. In many parts of the world, this is still the case.

I like your idyllic picture of women's pleasure, but I think it's a fantasy. "People" don't pursue it so single mindedly, as in men and women equally, all through history. Many women have gone to their graves without ever deriving pleasure from sexual congress. Now that in certain parts of the world, women and men have realised that sex gets better when both parties participate and enjoy it, we've got some changes.

Oxwana, there is a difference between making fun of someone, and telling them (privately) that they were lousy in bed, and why. I refuse to do the former. And THAT'S what I'm talking about. I'm not going to go around and say, 'so and so is lousy in bed' or 'so and so has a really tiny penis, ha ha ha'. I don't care what the person is like, that is a low way of dealing with someone who is a creep.Some guys know that they are bad in bed, and honestly don't care. They don't care if they please the women they get with, and they don't care what people think. If you have never encountered men like this, then you are lucky, not better than me.

Oh, but I didn't really think I'd let out anything that wasn't already out there, I mean, it would be weird if I had no experience in the area, being a gay man and all, but, yeah, I should shut my yap. :)
No, DON'T...this IS the sex thread after all...just ignore me and move on ;)

SUrprise surprise, a guy who you did sexual favours for is eager to get into your good graces. :p
j/k. It really is sweet. Hot, too. Not the puking part.

Hah! It's so transparent nowadays, when one is jaded and all, but I like to cling to the idea that he really cared. I'll keep my delusion, thankyouverymuch! ;)

Awwwww. You tease.

I doubt anyone wants details, but I can say that it was carefully planned and went off without a hitch. And as all things sexual, it wasn't all that great in the beginning, but fortunately got better towards the end, and it kept improving over time. :)

Some guys know that they are bad in bed, and honestly don't care. They don't care if they please the women they get with, and they don't care what people think. If you have never encountered men like this, then you are lucky, not better than me.
Christ on a stick.

Forget it.

Some guys know that they are bad in bed, and honestly don't care. They don't care if they please the women they get with, and they don't care what people think. If you have never encountered men like this, then you are lucky, not better than me.

Ouch!

What evidence would make you believe this?

For much of history, women have been forced into marriage, often at a young age, and often with men much older than them. The purpose of a wife was to bear children, not to enjoy sex. In many parts of the world, this is still the case.

I like your idyllic picture of women's pleasure, but I think it's a fantasy. "People" don't pursue it so single mindedly, as in men and women equally, all through history. Many women have gone to their graves without ever deriving pleasure from sexual congress. Now that in certain parts of the world, women and men have realised that sex gets better when both parties participate and enjoy it, we've got some changes.
I don't think I have anything even remotely approaching an "idyllic" picture of how sex has been for much of human history. But just because there have been periods of attempted sexual repression under patriarchal societies or religious fundamentalism does not detract from the original premise: that sex is biologically intended to be pleasureable for both sexes and this has been the prmary impetus to the human race having spread all over the globe.

Some guys know that they are bad in bed, and honestly don't care. They don't care if they please the women they get with, and they don't care what people think. If you have never encountered men like this, then you are lucky, not better than me.
IMHO, men like this should be shot, just to put women out of the misery of having to deal with them! :D

I like your idyllic picture of women's pleasure, but I think it's a fantasy. "People" don't pursue it so single mindedly, as in men and women equally, all through history. Many women have gone to their graves without ever deriving pleasure from sexual congress. Now that in certain parts of the world, women and men have realised that sex gets better when both parties participate and enjoy it, we've got some changes.

I think it depends on what societies you look at. In Eastern societies, although women were definitely expected to be submissive in most of life - they were not necessarily denied sexual pleasure. Look at the Kama Sutra, for instance, a man's ability to pleasure a woman was the measure of his sexual prowess - not how many partners he had. And women, although submissive in other aspects, were expected to sometimes take the dominant role in sex - a "role reversal" that was apparently seen as being incredibly sensual.

Western society, on the other hand, has not always expected that women enjoy sex, so long as men get their jollies.


Since we're on the subject, how many people find that it is actually pleasuring the other person that really gets you going? Not that I don't enjoy sex for my own pleasure, but what really gets me horny is making sure that my boyfriend is enjoying it. According to him, he sees it the same way - and in fact will hold back on his own orgasm if he doesn't think he's had enough.
Perhaps the secret to "great sex" is both partners being more focused on each other than on themselves?

Hah! It's so transparent nowadays, when one is jaded and all, but I like to cling to the idea that he really cared. I'll keep my delusion, thankyouverymuch! ;)I really was just kidding. It sounds like he was a sweet guy.

I doubt anyone wants details, but I can say that it was carefully planned and went off without a hitch. And as all things sexual, it wasn't all that great in the beginning, but fortunately got better towards the end, and it kept improving over time. :)*waves hands wildly in the air* Over here!
Details would be much appreciated, if you care to share. Let's put some homosexual experiences on the record here, if only for posterity. Yeah, posterity.
Don't anyone bother calling me a perv. I already know that I am. :D

IMHO, men like this should be shot, just to put women out of the misery of having to deal with them! :DThe Canadian government doesn't like it when I shoot these guys. :D
Personally, I think that it'd be doing my society a valuable service...

Since we're on the subject, how many people find that it is actually pleasuring the other person that really gets you going? Not that I don't enjoy sex for my own pleasure, but what really gets me horny is making sure that my boyfriend is enjoying it. According to him, he sees it the same way - and in fact will hold back on his own orgasm if he doesn't think he's had enough.
Perhaps the secret to "great sex" is both partners being more focused on each other than on themselves?
Well, duh. That goes almost without saying.

As CSG can attest, making my partner have multiple orgasms more often and more intensely, is my primary "thing" in sex. The very best sex I have ever had in my life was when both my partner and me were turned on by giving each other the greatest degree of pleasure possible. The only hazard with this is that it can sometimes turn into a contest of wills. The way to prevent this is for each party to take turns at allowing themselves to just relax and enjoy the other's efforts. :D

The Canadian government doesn't like it when I shoot these guys. :D
Personally, I think that it'd be doing my society a valuable service...
Hahahaha! You go, girl! :D

Tell you what ... for every one of those deweebs you shoot, I'll "shoot" you! How's that? :D :D :D

For much of history, women have been forced into marriage, often at a young age, and often with men much older than them. The purpose of a wife was to bear children, not to enjoy sex. In many parts of the world, this is still the case.Yeah, like Bangladesh... the average age when a girl gets married there is 14...

I like your idyllic picture of women's pleasure, but I think it's a fantasy. "People" don't pursue it so single mindedly, as in men and women equally, all through history. Many women have gone to their graves without ever deriving pleasure from sexual congress. Now that in certain parts of the world, women and men have realised that sex gets better when both parties participate and enjoy it, we've got some changes.The only thing I can add that others haven't said already, is that back in the day, Islamic scholars believed that the female orgasm was required for successful pregnancy and therefore shouldn't be denied to the woman.

Since we're on the subject, how many people find that it is actually pleasuring the other person that really gets you going? Not that I don't enjoy sex for my own pleasure, but what really gets me horny is making sure that my boyfriend is enjoying it. According to him, he sees it the same way - and in fact will hold back on his own orgasm if he doesn't think he's had enough.
Perhaps the secret to "great sex" is both partners being more focused on each other than on themselves?Ooh! Ooh! Me!
Something I enjoyed doing with my girlfriend was masturbate together, when we were too tired for proper sex. She'd always have to do herself for me to get going properly.

Well, I can’t speak for everyone, but personally I don’t want the government intruding on, or spending money on, sex, at all.

Why?

It's not intruding - it's educating people so that they know the ins and outs, if you'll pardon the pun, of sex and so that STIs arent an issue.

Well, duh. That goes almost without saying.

Well, I have talked to people (both male and female) who don't seem to care much if their partner gets off - although I think it is a bit more rare for a guy to have sex and not orgasm.

As CSG can attest, making my partner have multiple orgasms more often and more intensely, is my primary "thing" in sex. The very best sex I have ever had in my life was when both my partner and me were turned on by giving each other the greatest degree of pleasure possible. The only hazard with this is that it can sometimes turn into a contest of wills. The way to prevent this is for each party to take turns at allowing themselves to just relax and enjoy the other's efforts. :D

Yeah, the relaxation part can be rather difficult for me, especially if things have gotten very intense. Sometimes we both just have to back off for a moment and restart.

Well, I have talked to people (both male and female) who don't seem to care much if their partner gets off - although I think it is a bit more rare for a guy to have sex and not orgasm.It happens, though...:(

Well, I have talked to people (both male and female) who don't seem to care much if their partner gets off - although I think it is a bit more rare for a guy to have sex and not orgasm.

Yeah, the relaxation part can be rather difficult for me, especially if things have gotten very intense. Sometimes we both just have to back off for a moment and restart.
I've had much the same sort of experience. There have actually been times when we had to take a break and go swimming or something, just to cut back on the intensity. But that's certainly one sign of great sex, IMHO.

I studied tantric yoga on Okinawa and learned how to hold back my orgasm even while remaining hard. The hazard of doing this on a consistent basis is that it's sometimes difficult to reach orgasm. :(

Hahahaha! You go, girl! :D

Tell you what ... for every one of those deweebs you shoot, I'll "shoot" you! How's that? :D :D :DPromise?

Blowing your load is great.

That is all.

Blowing your load is great.

That is all.
If that's all you think is to it, then please, for the sake of everyone else, stick to masturbation.

Blowing your load is great.

That is all.Only if getting there leaves her panting with a flushed face, smiling, and her skin all covered in goosebumps for minutes to come :D

<just joining in> a question for the ladies...do any of you have uh, let's see here, friction issues? I've used just about every lubricant available, but I can't allow hubby to go for too long because it starts to get very painful. Before I had kids I thought that having kids would help, but now that I've had two and I have the same problem, it's got to be something else. Any ideas?

Promise?
But of course! Silly girl! :D

<just joining in> a question for the ladies...do any of you have uh, let's see here, friction issues? I've used just about every lubricant available, but I can't allow hubby to go for too long because it starts to get very painful. Before I had kids I thought that having kids would help, but now that I've had two and I have the same problem, it's got to be something else. Any ideas?
Well, although I'm not female, I do have a suggestion for you, if you have yet to try this: http://www.911healthshop.com/amoristaqua.html?PTech&amount=.30

Just a thought.

Only if getting there leaves her panting with a flushed face, smiling, and her skin all covered in goosebumps for minutes to come :D
Extra points if she winds up gasping for breath and incapable of coherent speech ( muttering "Oh my god" repeatedly is ok too )! :D

Extra points if she winds up gasping for breath and incapable of coherent speech ( muttering "Oh my god" repeatedly is ok too )! :DOr shivering (usually comes together with the goosebumps)...

Or shivering (usually comes together with the goosebumps)...
Yeah, but I much prefer verbal acknowledgement of my superior education and training! :D

Or shivering (usually comes together with the goosebumps)...

Or if she wants to do it again right away...

Yeah, but I much prefer verbal acknowledgement of my superior education and training! :DAre we suffering from a lack of self-esteem? Just ask her, if that's the case :D It helps prevent misunderstandings...

Or if she wants to do it again right away...
Well, except in certain unusual cases, most women may very badly want an immediate second round, but, if you've done your job properly, will have to wait until her body catches up with her libido! :D

Are we suffering from a lack of self-esteem? Just ask her, if that's the case :D It helps prevent misunderstandings...
Want to read my volumes of Unsolicited Testimonials? :D

Well, although I'm not female, I do have a suggestion for you, if you have yet to try this: http://www.911healthshop.com/amoristaqua.html?PTech&amount=.30

Just a thought.


Well I've tried other water-based stuff before, but not this brand. Suffice it to say it did not work for me. :(

But thank you for the suggestion!

Well I've tried other water-based stuff before, but not this brand. Suffice it to say it did not work for me. :(

But thank you for the suggestion!
I'm sorry. What about a silicone-based lubricant?

Since we're on the subject, how many people find that it is actually pleasuring the other person that really gets you going? Not that I don't enjoy sex for my own pleasure, but what really gets me horny is making sure that my boyfriend is enjoying it. According to him, he sees it the same way - and in fact will hold back on his own orgasm if he doesn't think he's had enough.
Perhaps the secret to "great sex" is both partners being more focused on each other than on themselves?

Yup! Nothing turns me on more than when my girlfriend cries out in pleasure, taken away by her orgasms (and she can have them almost indefinitely -- that is, until she almost collapses from exhaustion -- I'm so lucky!)...

Really, thinking of the other person before yourself is full of advantages. It's a great turn on, the results are beautiful to look at (nothing's better than turning your lover into a wet, incoherent, panting, shivering, screaming, sex-driven love goddess!!) and tell you if you're doing right, and it helps last longer (and thus have more pleasure at the same time), since holding back orgasm has often much to do with how much you focus on your pleasure and get excited (thinking about your orgasm is going to make it come faster). Selfish people sure don't know what they're missing...

And, I don't know for all of you out there, but do you make a big difference between "making love" and "having sex" (like, do you prefer saying "I made love with my <insert>")? I mean, there just doesn't seem to be any difference for some people, which I think is kinda sad. Well, maybe I give too much importance to these words (or maybe it's just my somewhat naive poet-who-hates-bad-words-for-beautiful-things nature)...

Anyway, I would say that 'while the love of pleasure can be fun, I sure prefer the pleasure of love' (dunno if it already is some kind of already-existing proverb, but I came up with that recently)!

Want to read my volumes of Unsolicited Testimonials? :DIf I ever have the chance to catch up, maybe, but as I said before, by the time I'm your age, you'll be over a hundred... :p

I'm sorry. What about a silicone-based lubricant?

I don't think so...I'll have to check the ingredients on the latest bottle we bought.

Well, except in certain unusual cases, most women may very badly want an immediate second round, but, if you've done your job properly, will have to wait until her body catches up with her libido! :D

Well, I guess my girlfriend would fit the 'unusual cases' idea... Hell, the only thing that stops her from going at it again is that she eventually almost passes out of exhaustion! While I don't have much experience with different girls (I'm 18, she's my first girlfriend and the only one with who I've ever made love), I can't help but feel like I'm the luckiest guy in the world, she's so sweet and and wise and loving and... well, you get the idea! ;)

Yup! Nothing turns me on more than when my girlfriend cries out in pleasure, taken away by her orgasms (and she can have them almost indefinitely -- that is, until she almost passes out of exhaustion -- I'm so lucky!)...

Really, thinking of the other person before yourself is full of advantages. It's a great turn on, the results are beautiful to look at (nothing's better than turning your lover into a wet, incoherent, panting, shivering, screaming, sex-driven love goddess!!) and tell you if you're doing right, and it helps last longer (and thus have more pleasure at the same time), since holding back orgasm has often much to do with how much you focus on your pleasure and get excited (thinking about your orgasm is going to make it come faster). Selfish people sure don't know what they're missing...

And, I don't know for all of you out there, but do you make a big difference between "making love" and "having sex" (like, do you prefer saying "I made love with my <insert>")? I mean, there just doesn't seem to be any difference for some people, which I think is kinda sad. Well, maybe I give too much importance to these words (or maybe it's just my somewhat naive poet-who-hates-bad-words-for-beautiful-things nature)...

Anyway, I would say that 'while the love of pleasure can be fun, I sure prefer the pleasure of love' (dunno if it already is some kind of already-existing proverb, but I came up with that recently)!
You are indeed a fortunate man, and your g/friend is a fortunate woman. Keep up the good work! :D

"Love" is a highly subjective thing, although I suspect I know what you mean. It's possible to be in love with someone without having sex with them, and possible to have sex with someone without being in love with them ... and all points in between. The very best sex I have ever had was when I cared deeply about my partner and she cared about me, making us devoted to making the experience as pleasureable for each other as possible.

This isn't to say that sex with someone who is "just" a good friend isn't pleasureable, only that there are all sorts of degrees of intensity.

Well, I guess my girlfriend would fit the 'unusual cases' idea... Hell, the only thing that stops her from going at it again is that she eventually almost passes out of exhaustion! While I don't have much experience with different girls (I'm 18, she's my first girlfriend and the only one with who I've ever made love), I can't help but feel like I'm the luckiest guy in the world, she's so sweet and and wise and loving and... well, you get the idea! ;)
Sounds like you got it bad, dude! Kudos! :D

If I ever have the chance to catch up, maybe, but as I said before, by the time I'm your age, you'll be over a hundred... :p
ROFLMAO! Dude! :D

<just joining in> a question for the ladies...do any of you have uh, let's see here, friction issues? I've used just about every lubricant available, but I can't allow hubby to go for too long because it starts to get very painful. Before I had kids I thought that having kids would help, but now that I've had two and I have the same problem, it's got to be something else. Any ideas?

I have, but it's usually only when we try to rush into it without enough foreplay.

I'm not an expert, but if it gets really painful even with lubrication, there might be some problem. Is your husband exceptionally well-endowed? If so, it might help if you were more in charge of the movement.

Yup! Nothing turns me on more than when my girlfriend cries out in pleasure, taken away by her orgasms (and she can have them almost indefinitely -- that is, until she almost collapses from exhaustion -- I'm so lucky!)...

Lucky her too! LOL

And, I don't know for all of you out there, but do you make a big difference between "making love" and "having sex" (like, do you prefer saying "I made love with my <insert>")? I mean, there just doesn't seem to be any difference for some people, which I think is kinda sad. Well, maybe I give too much importance to these words (or maybe it's just my somewhat naive poet-who-hates-bad-words-for-beautiful-things nature)...

I use the two almost interchangeably in my own cases - but basically because I have never and never plan on having a sexual relationship with someone I am not in love with.

I do occasionally use the terms to delineate between the very slow, sensual lovemaking vs. a more, um, aggressive form of sex.

Anyway, I would say that 'while the love of pleasure can be fun, I sure prefer the pleasure of love' (dunno if it already is some kind of already-existing proverb, but I came up with that recently)!

Most people I have talked to say that sex with someone you truly love is better than one-night stands or a purely physical relationship.

Most people I have talked to say that sex with someone you truly love is better than one-night stands or a purely physical relationship.
I agree, but when love is not an option, mutual admiration for expertise often runs a close second. :)

Extra points if she winds up gasping for breath and incapable of coherent speech ( muttering "Oh my god" repeatedly is ok too )! :DI think the guy I was with last night has the all-time highest score. :D

I think the guy I was with last night has the all-time highest score. :D
Gald you enjoyed yourself. Kudos to him, whomever he might be. :D

I have, but it's usually only when we try to rush into it without enough foreplay.

I'm not an expert, but if it gets really painful even with lubrication, there might be some problem. Is your husband exceptionally well-endowed? If so, it might help if you were more in charge of the movement.


Well, I never thought of that...the times that I'm on top I don't generally have that problem. Hmmm, I think we may have to experiment with some alternative positioning. Oh no! <sarcasm> :D

Well, I never thought of that...the times that I'm on top I don't generally have that problem. Hmmm, I think we may have to experiment with some alternative positioning. Oh no! <sarcasm> :D
Experiment? New positions?

Oh nos! The horror! The horror! :D

Speaking of...
What are your favourite positions? We can all swap ideas... I am in desperate need of some new material. The basics are starting to get old.

Speaking of...
What are your favourite positions? We can all swap ideas... I am in desperate need of some new material. The basics are starting to get old.I really enjoy doggie style and variants on the missionary position - for example, my ankles twisted around his neck. He seems to like it too :)

By the way, hello again everyone! It's 3 am here and he's fallen asleep after some 'fun' - just about to join him for a wee bit more (if I can wake the bugger, that is) ;)

I really enjoy doggie style and variants on the missionary position - for example, my ankles twisted around his neck. He seems to like it too :)Those are two of my favourites... And they are good, but that's what I mean't about trying to get away from the basics.


By the way, hello again everyone! It's 3 am here and he's fallen asleep after some 'fun' - just about to join him for a wee bit more (if I can wake the bugger, that is) ;)Is he really a bugger?
That's hot.

Speaking of... Has anyone here tried anal sex, and if so, what were your experiences with it?

Speaking of... Has anyone here tried anal sex, and if so, what were your experiences with it?

Hehe... well it feels good if it's done right.
A. Relax
B. Lube
C. Hope the cock isn't so big that you never shit the same again. (pardon me)

Speaking of...
What are your favourite positions?

on the kitchen floor......

Hehe... well it feels good if it's done right.
A. Relax
B. Lube
C. Hope the cock isn't so big that you never shit the same again. (pardon me)Thank you, but I wasn't exactly asking for advice. I'm already a bit of an expert in the field myself.
Would you care to share your experiences?

Speaking of... Has anyone here tried anal sex, and if so, what were your experiences with it?

It hurts. :p

on the kitchen floor......That's hot.
But not exactly what i was getting at. On the floor on your hands and knees, or on your back? Or in some strange position that I have never heard of before but absolutely have to try?

Thank you, but I wasn't exactly asking for advice. I'm already a bit of an expert in the field myself.
Would you care to share your experiences?

That was my experience! (JK)
Well the most memorable was when I was with a guy who had an anal fetish. It's ok for me once in awhile, but not all the time. Have to be in the "Super Kinky Mood". ;)

That's hot.
But not exactly what i was getting at. On the floor on your hands and knees, or on your back? Or in some strange position that I have never heard of before but absolutely have to try?

my own position. but sorry, can't tell you it. it's patented :p

my own position. but sorry, can't tell you it. it's patented :pI'll give you sexual favours if you tell me... ;)

on the kitchen floor......
*grins*

I'll give you sexual favours if you tell me... ;)

thanks, but no thanks. i've had bad experiences with those kinda things..... :p

On an overloaded dryer. Yee-haw.

thanks, but no thanks. i've had bad experiences with those kinda things..... :pAw...
Would money work? Or, you could just tell me out of the goodness of your heart...

Aw...
Would money work? Or, you could just tell me out of the goodness of your heart...
You couldn't just buy a dildo and use your imagination?

Aw...
Would money work? Or, you could just tell me out of the goodness of your heart...

i could but then i would have to kill you. i guess you'll have to find out through your own acord.....

You couldn't just buy a dildo and use your imagination?Another one???
I never even use half of the ones I do have.

i could but then i would have to kill you. i guess you'll have to find out through your own acord.....Heartless, you are.

Heartless, you are.

i do have a heart. i just choose not to use it...

Another one???
I never even use half of the ones I do have.

Wow, half of my collection would be 1 1/2. How many do you own???

Wow, half of my collection would be 1 1/2. How many do you own???

why do you need more than one or two?

why do you need more than one or two?

Erm... they're different sizes. :(

this is semi sex-related: how does body language affect me scoring a single guy? :confused: i'm 16 and i like the shaggy-haired bookish skaters/gamers. do any boys have advice on what i could do to make myself more appealing? i'm told that i'm fairly attractive, but apparently being hot ;) and playing halo :sniper: aren't enought to get inside a guy's pants. it's so frustrating! :headbang:

oh, btw: if any guys want a piece of advice: wear axe or tag body spray. trust me, that stuff really does drive girls wild. they must put pheremones in it or something because for me that stuff is like: hey! you smell good. what's your name? *thinking: hey! you smell sexy. let's go make out.*

Broomsticks. :eek:

I don't have the faintest idea why I'm participating in this thread. I'm a virgin. :pme too. but damn do i like hot sweaty make outs.

Years of biology and I've never heard this.

For what biological reason did your teacher claim this?

I think you may have been misinformed by an overzealous abstinence supporter. Not that I don't think teenager should abstain, but I don't think we need to lie to them to get them to do so.oy, stupid. just because you havn't heard it before doesnt mean jack. if oung girls such as myself start having sex now, it drastically increases the lihlyhood of cervical cancer later in life. just becuz the mind is ready (or thinks it is) the body isnt done growing yet, even if your height and boobs are done. trust me, my health/sex ed teacher knows her shit, shes been on tv and has had death threats about her talks on condom use and everything.

Wow, half of my collection would be 1 1/2. How many do you own???I'd have to go count. Probably twenty. Maybe two dozen. I don't know.

why do you need more than one or two?Some of mine do tricks. ;)

It's those evil communists spoiling our country. They make people afraid of money so they don't want to talk about it, and advocate vulgarity and immorality. We must outlaw these immoral ideologies that are destroying our capitalist Christian right-wing paradise!!!

Oh, sure, blame the extremist groups. I'm not communist, but I'm nowhere near your right-wing fanaticism. It's people like you exploiting the masses that makes people afraid to talk about money or sex or anything taboo to anal-retentant conservatives.

Moving on:
Personally, I find any form of the physical aspects of sexual intimacy to be irrelevant; the spiritual aspect is the important part. And monogamy. Spiritual union, whatever its form, is a very personal thing, and I believe it should be shared only between two people. If it doesn't work out between them, then they should each find someone else after the relationship ends.

If you insist upon knowing, sometimes I use more than one at a time.

this is semi sex-related: how does body language affect me scoring a single guy? :confused: i'm 16 and i like the shaggy-haired bookish skaters/gamers. do any boys have advice on what i could do to make myself more appealing? i'm told that i'm fairly attractive, but apparently being hot ;) and playing halo :sniper: aren't enought to get inside a guy's pants. it's so frustrating! :headbang:

oh, btw: if any guys want a piece of advice: wear axe or tag body spray. trust me, that stuff really does drive girls wild. they must put pheremones in it or something because for me that stuff is like: hey! you smell good. what's your name? *thinking: hey! you smell sexy. let's go make out.*

I happen to be a 16 year old single guy and I have to tell you, getting into our pants isn't as hard as you might think. My advice to you is be flirty, sexy, and pretend to be genuinely interested in what evr crap we go on about.

I happen to be a 16 year old single guy and I have to tell you, getting into our pants isn't as hard as you might think. My advice to you is be flirty, sexy, and pretend to be genuinely interested in what evr crap we go on about.good advice, except i usually AM genuinley interested. except cars. cars are stupid, a car is a car is a car is a mode of transportation and a site for making out. ("snogging" for all you brits) everyone, if you see a car violently shaking and thw windows fogged up, step of...

this is semi sex-related: how does body language affect me scoring a single guy? :confused: i'm 16 and i like the shaggy-haired bookish skaters/gamers. do any boys have advice on what i could do to make myself more appealing? i'm told that i'm fairly attractive, but apparently being hot ;) and playing halo :sniper: aren't enought to get inside a guy's pants. it's so frustrating! :headbang:

oh, btw: if any guys want a piece of advice: wear axe or tag body spray. trust me, that stuff really does drive girls wild. they must put pheremones in it or something because for me that stuff is like: hey! you smell good. what's your name? *thinking: hey! you smell sexy. let's go make out.*No one will think you're weird if you just smile at them out of the blue.
I learned it a few years back: guys go ape over a warm smile. That's really all you need to know. Honestly.
My best friend plays it cool, and the boys ignore her. Well, they ignore her in that way. She's smart, witty, sassy; great fun to chat or joke around with, but guys don't see her like that because she doesn't make it obvious that she wants a guy. Even when she flirts outrageously, it's in a very joking manner, and the guys are never sure if she actually likes them, or is just flirting.
Make it obvious if you're interested in a guy. Hit him over the head with your charm. With highschool boys, when you think that you're throwing yourself at them, they are probably still clueless. :p
Be confident, respect yourself, but most of all, just be friendly. They need to know that there is no chance thta you will reject them, or you need to ask them out yourself.
If a guy is talking to you, chances are he likes you (at least a little), and if you're not a hag, most of the guys in your highschool are probably attracted to you. Make it clear that you like him, and suddenly, you're a very popular girl. Even the coolest chica can go through highscool surrounded by horny teenage boys and not score once if she comes across as cold.

I don't have the faintest idea why I'm participating in this thread. I'm a virgin. :p

So am I. That doesn't matter. We still have our attitudes about sex. Those may change one day, though. ;)

No one will think you're weird if you just smile at them out of the blue.

Excellent advice. A warm smile can certainly make me think twice about a girl.

No one will think you're weird if you just smile at them out of the blue.
I learned it a few years back: guys go ape over a warm smile. That's really all you need to know. Honestly.
My best friend plays it cool, and the boys ignore her. Well, they ignore her in that way. She's smart, witty, sassy; great fun to chat or joke around with, but guys don't see her like that because she doesn't make it obvious that she wants a guy. Even when she flirts outrageously, it's in a very joking manner, and the guys are never sure if she actually likes them, or is just flirting.
Make it obvious if you're interested in a guy. Hit him over the head with your charm. With highschool boys, when you think that you're throwing yourself at them, they are probably still clueless. :p
Be confident, respect yourself, but most of all, just be friendly. They need to know that there is no chance thta you will reject them, or you need to ask them out yourself.
If a guy is talking to you, chances are he likes you (at least a little), and if you're not a hag, most of the guys in your highschool are probably attracted to you. Make it clear that you like him, and suddenly, you're a very popular girl. Even the coolest chica can go through highscool surrounded by horny teenage boys and not score once if she comes across as cold.
most sensible advie ever! thanks oxwana!

oy, stupid. just because you havn't heard it before doesnt mean jack. if oung girls such as myself start having sex now, it drastically increases the lihlyhood of cervical cancer later in life. just becuz the mind is ready (or thinks it is) the body isnt done growing yet, even if your height and boobs are done. trust me, my health/sex ed teacher knows her shit, shes been on tv and has had death threats about her talks on condom use and everything.95% of cervical cancer cases are caused by HPV (http://www.cdc.gov/std/HPV/STDFact-HPV.htm), one of the most common and easily transmittable STIs. The more sexually active you are, and the more partners you have, the more likely you are to get it. Statistics may show that women who start to have sex at a young age are more likely to get a strain of HPV that causes cervical cancer (because they have more partners or more unprotected sex, perhaps), but it is not cause and effect. Having sex at a young age does not increase your chances of getting cervical cancer.

I have a really crappy question.

IS THERE SOME WAY TO TURN ALL THE BROKEN-HEARTED STALKERS I HAVE OFF?!

I keep trying to be totally repulsive but nothing seems to do the trick. :headbang:

Maybe I'm just too ..... I dunno.

except cars. cars are stupid, a car is a car is a car :eek:
:eek:
:eek:
BLASPHAMER!!! :p
Seriously, take auto shop. It'll do you good.

Well, that male's appetite.


And where the heck are those cookies?!

"Look, you're not fooling anyone." That's EVERY man's appetite. It just doesn't get any better than flesh and food.

Well, that male's appetite.


And where the heck are those cookies?!

"Look, you're not fooling anyone." That's EVERY man's appetite. It just doesn't get any better than flesh and food. :D

If you insist upon knowing, sometimes I use more than one at a time.Rock!
It's good to know that I'm not the only one.

I have a really crappy question.

IS THERE SOME WAY TO TURN ALL THE BROKEN-HEARTED STALKERS I HAVE OFF?!

I keep trying to be totally repulsive but nothing seems to do the trick. :headbang:

Maybe I'm just too ..... I dunno.man i have the same problem

:eek:
:eek:
:eek:
BLASPHAMER!!! :p
Seriously, take auto shop. It'll do you good.well i did take wood/metal shop. i just dont find cars interesting. boys, i dont care if you have a hemi or if your jaguar is an s-type (though that is a nice car), i just want to make out with you on your couch after we play a few rounds of halo death match.

I think this thread should be closed. I think it breaks the forums' rules.

I'm open to just about anything.

Well, I hope I come back to this thread tomorrow and find pages of poster fantasies...and not just the women...you guys need to work on letting us know what gets your boat rocking! Be good, boys and girls...but not too good...chau!

I'm not really sure, but whatever it is, you've got it. Maybe it's that you are everything I subconsciously wish I could be, aside from female. I don't want that; too many complications. :p

well i did take wood/metal shop. i just dont find cars interesting. boys, i dont care if you have a hemi or if your jaguar is an s-type (though that is a nice car), i just want to make out with you on your couch after we play a few rounds of halo death match.

Car? What the hell is that?? ;) But I do like the way you think....Y'know, I live in Kansas City....Maybe...wait, no, that won't work. You don't have it. :(

I have a really crappy question.

IS THERE SOME WAY TO TURN ALL THE BROKEN-HEARTED STALKERS I HAVE OFF?!

I keep trying to be totally repulsive but nothing seems to do the trick. :headbang:

Maybe I'm just too ..... I dunno.

If you are male, then try not being totally repulsive, possibly the girls are thinking "oh, hes juts playing hard to get"

if that doesnt work, then hire a body guard :mp5: or get them hit :sniper: or something.

If you are male, then try not being totally repulsive, possibly the girls are thinking "oh, hes juts playing hard to get"

if that doesnt work, then hire a body guard :mp5: or get them hit :sniper: or something.

You just like using the images, don't you? :p

Rock!
It's good to know that I'm not the only one.
You are definitely NOT the only one. Trust me on that.

Speaking of...
What are your favourite positions? We can all swap ideas... I am in desperate need of some new material. The basics are starting to get old.
There are only about 32 "basic" positions, with an almost infinite number of "variations." One variation you might find interesting is when the woman is on her back and places a pillow or two beneath her hips to raise them, pulling her legs back so that they're close to and parallel to her body. The male stands with legs wide apart and planted on either side of the woman's waist, then lowers himself to penetrate her from almost directly above. This position allows for maximum penetration as well as offering the female a highly stimulating view of herself being penetrated.

What?? No one's interested in sex anymore? Un-frikkin' real! Sigh. :(

Speaking of...
What are your favourite positions? We can all swap ideas... I am in desperate need of some new material. The basics are starting to get old.

If you really are interested in learning new position, please go and buy an illustrated copy of the Kama Sutra. I highly recommend the illustrated version because I don't think I would have been able to quite understand how to be able to do some of the postions without some sort of visual guidance. I'll do my best description.

One of my fave positions are The Variant Yawning postion, which I think is quite well known since the man raises both legs and has them going over his shoulders, very deep penetration. :D

However my absolute favourite is The Wife of Indra. With this position the female needs to be quite flexable in be able to draw and bend the legs up against the chest of yourself, rest your feet on the mid chest part of the man, and the man needs to rest his knees just under the buttocks of the female to give her a little supoort. The position has given me the deepest penetration that I've ever experience and if this is one of the things that really gets you going I highly recommend trying it. :D :D :D

I was trying to find a decent picture of some positions on the net that I could link to but they've so far eluded me. Really though, go pick a good book on it (there are plenty just test read them into the store to find the one that speaks most to you).

I really enjoyed challenging my self to see if I could even move myself in the proper way to do some of the the positions in the book. Fortunately I've been blessed with a large amount of flexability and I've had no problems as of yet. It's was really fun at first, too, to try all the different positions because a lot of different positions focus the pleasure in different areas of the body, it's interesting to experience to say the least.

If you really are interested in learning new position, please go and buy an illustrated copy of the Kama Sutra. I highly recommend the illustrated version because I don't think I would have been able to quite understand how to be able to do some of the postions without some sort of visual guidance. I'll do my best description.

One of my fave positions are The Variant Yawning postion, which I think is quite well known since the man raises both legs and has them going over his shoulders, very deep penetration. :D

However my absolute favourite is The Wife of Indra. With this position the female needs to be quite flexable in be able to draw and bend the legs up against the chest of yourself, rest your feet on the mid chest part of the man, and the man needs to rest his knees just under the buttocks of the female to give her a little supoort. The position has given me the deepest penetration that I've ever experience and if this is one of the things that really gets you going I highly recommend trying it. :D :D :D

I was trying to find a decent picture of some positions on the net that I could link to but they've so far eluded me. Really though, go pick a good book on it (there are plenty just test read them into the store to find the one that speaks most to you).

I really enjoyed challenging my self to see if I could even move myself in the proper way to do some of the the positions in the book. Fortunately I've been blessed with a large amount of flexability and I've had no problems as of yet. It's was really fun at first, too, to try all the different positions because a lot of different positions focus the pleasure in different areas of the body, it's interesting to experience to say the least.
You're absolutely correct about different positions having different effects on different parts of the body. I do, however, envy your felixibility a bit, since losing a degree of flexibility seems to be inevitable as you get older, no matter how much you stretch and exercise. Sigh.

Damnit! I wanna talk about sex! :p

Hey, can I help it if I'm a dirty old man?

I don't THINK so! :p

Is he really a bugger?
That's hot.

Speaking of... Has anyone here tried anal sex, and if so, what were your experiences with it?Yes, he is :p I'm not a huge fan of anal sex, as I find it a little uncomfortable, but I know he likes it and I don't mind it for something a bit different as well. So it's OK, though not my first choice of sexual activity.

One of my fave positions are The Variant Yawning postion, which I think is quite well known since the man raises both legs and has them going over his shoulders, very deep penetration. :D That's a basic in my book. More often then not, that's how I end up w my partners. I'm trying to get away from things like this...

However my absolute favourite is The Wife of Indra. With this position the female needs to be quite flexable in be able to draw and bend the legs up against the chest of yourself, rest your feet on the mid chest part of the man, and the man needs to rest his knees just under the buttocks of the female to give her a little supoort. The position has given me the deepest penetration that I've ever experience and if this is one of the things that really gets you going I highly recommend trying it. :D :D :D Now that is what I'm talking about!! I'll be trying that out ASAP.

I really enjoyed challenging my self to see if I could even move myself in the proper way to do some of the the positions in the book. Fortunately I've been blessed with a large amount of flexability and I've had no problems as of yet. It's was really fun at first, too, to try all the different positions because a lot of different positions focus the pleasure in different areas of the body, it's interesting to experience to say the least.I too, am extremely flexible, so I'm thinking that maybe I should invest in a copy of this famed book. Trying them all out would be fun. Fun indeed.

Damnit! I wanna talk about sex! :pYou can talk to me about sex any time. ;)
>best "Joey" voice< How you doin'?