NationStates Jolt Archive

How can they do their job if Saddam Hussein stonewalling every step of the way? Yea that's right! He stone walled the process more times than not. He let them investigate spots but he wanted to know where they are going even though they are supposed to be spot inspections.
And THERE WERE NO WEAPONS! This may come as a huge surprise to FOX junkies, but the inspections were right! Hans Blix was right! And Salim died FOR NOTHING! Not for the liberation of his brothers; they still live in fear, but with a more powerful despot than the previous one.

....I'm a Kerry lover...
eeeew... Why, my fellow liberals, would anyone accept to actually LIKING and not simply preferring kerry??

Nazi Fox News

Corporate collapse after Kerry tragedy

John Kerry's election to US president sent Haliburton stocks crashing overnight. One unnamed stockbrocker said "They just keep on falling until they stopped at $1.00. It was a slaughter, never to be seen before!". On news of the collapse of the Haliburton stocks to a record low, Haliburton tried to suspend trade in it's stock on the NYSE, but it was too late.

People on the streets were using their Haliburton stock certificates as cigarette paper and it was being shredded to make cheap confetti for the Democratic parties being held all over US.

Finally Someone else unafraid to call Faux Nazi Propaganda what it is!

eeeew... Why, my fellow liberals, would anyone accept to actually LIKING and not simply preferring kerry??


....lmao. I take it back. I wan Kerry in office, but not in my bed.

....lmao. I take it back. I wan Kerry in office, but not in my bed.
no, what I mean is... do you seriously WANT that Douche bag as your president? or do you simply prefer him to George " Satanic Puppet" Bush?

"Everyone"??????

Do you mean every other idiot out there that doesn't have a clue concerning American history? Why don't you morons do a little reading before you write this blather.

W was not the first person to win the election without the popular vote. It's called the Electoral College. I don't think that they were talking about that. Bush won by a partisan 5-4 majority on the suppreme court.

yeah, kinda reminds me of mad kin..I mean President George right now.

And yet we got tax cuts under Bush and Higher Taxes under King George III

Kerry is the best thing that has happened to America after that lying mongrel Bush, Who I might add took my countrymen into a war thousands of miles away. But don't get me wrong, we toppled Saddam but Bush had no idea what to do afterward and which led to thaousands of people dying.

Bush is just plain simple and I think the majority of the American people are finally realising this , it will be good if kerry gets in.

Woo Hoo! ;)

eeeew... Why, my fellow liberals, would anyone accept to actually LIKING and not simply preferring kerry??

I actually like Kerry a lot. Based on prior actions (looked up from sources like the Senate website and CSPAN,) his moral outrage against vietnam after bravely fighting in it, his distinguished career as a prosecutor, his emphasis while in the Senate, on investigation and tracking down of corrupt money lines, both within our government and in terrorist activities, his ability to be outspoken even when unpopular (which the Republicans criticize him for, and then turn around and complain about being a political weathervane,) his slightly liberal social views, his nuanced reasoning ability (which gets chopped up and edited in order to craft it into a likeness of ambiguity,) and his expert debating skills, which are vital when communicating with recalcitrant allies.

In short, I am very satisfied with Senator John Kerry, and I think it's an abomination how his record has been misconstrued and how the media took most of their criticisms about Kerry directly from the Bush playbook.

I actually like Kerry a lot. Based on prior actions (looked up from sources like the Senate website and CSPAN,) his moral outrage against vietnam after bravely fighting in it, his distinguished career as a prosecutor, his emphasis while in the Senate, on investigation and tracking down of corrupt money lines, both within our government and in terrorist activities, his ability to be outspoken even when unpopular (which the Republicans criticize him for, and then turn around and complain about being a political weathervane,) his slightly liberal social views, his nuanced reasoning ability (which gets chopped up and edited in order to craft it into a likeness of ambiguity,) and his expert debating skills, which are vital when communicating with recalcitrant allies.

In short, I am very satisfied with Senator John Kerry, and I think it's an abomination how his record has been misconstrued and how the media took most of their criticisms about Kerry directly from the Bush playbook.

truth is, he was neither the best would-be president of the primaries nor the most likely to be elected. I liked Dean better on Both Counts.

I do know that the 1st Gulf War was a UN mission! The UN Basically declared war on Iraq. To bad it wasn't smart enough to kick him out of power then but that is a different story.

That was not their mission. That one was our bad.

Take a look at this list again! How many of these operations have failed? Congo is still in Civil War. India and Pakistan are doing things themselves, Kosovo is still a hotbed.

So you think we shouldn't have gone to those places at all? They could have easily been genocides and full fledged war without the peacekeepers. As has been said before, you can't name a war that didn't happen.

This is true however, the UN has shown itself to be weak and indecisive as well as ineffective most of the time too.

But it has also proven itself to be very very useful. I'd never convince you of this, and it would take too long. Shortcomings are not the reason to condemn an organization that does so much for so many. (What about ALL the programs like UNICEF, and who do you think is working on aids in Africa?)

Your right! The UN isn't perfect but it is just as ineffective as the LoN! It can't do anything unless the nations cooperate and even then that is rare. The SCUN can pass all the resolutions they want but they have no means to enforce them. It is up to individual nations to enforce them and look how that turned out in regard with Iraq?

Whoa dude, it's been far more effective than the LON. It survived the cold war for goodness sake. World government is here to stay, and the UN is the best thing we have in this day and age. In regard to Iraq, we'll have no way of knowing how Iraq would have "ended" if UN sanctions and inspections continued. You can't call it a failure cuz Bush got impatient. The UN can't corral the US, but it gives the world a forum to debate their concerns on US policy. Sure it has no way to enforce resolutions... on paper. But there are these things called "international norms" and you don't wanna screw em'. What I'm saying is a counrty that violates UN resolutions isn't going to do to well in the international community. When every country in the world relies on international trade and cooperation (through the UN no less) you don't want to piss them off. Iraq learned that under UN sanctions. After 91' they didn't try NUTHIN. (nuthin, sadly, was still too much for Bush)

I prefer him over Bush, I rather have Clintion in office again..lmao

Whoo hoo!

(Just practicing)

:D
you've jinxed it. now, when Bush wins, we really CAN blame Canada.

you've jinxed it. now, when Bush wins, we really CAN blame Canada.
lol!

I prefer him over Bush, I rather have Clintion in office again..lmao
well, as far as fantasy goes, Id rather have mcCain running against kerry. Maybe Id even vote republican :D

Bush Is Going To Win Kerry Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

lol

Boo!! Hiss!!

just practicing

Hey did you know that Bush was the first president to be elected without actually winning the election? :eek:

no, there were 3 others, John Quincy Adams, Benjamin Harrison, and one more i cannot remember, all rebulicans hmm.

kerry is for abortions and gay marriges! for abortions that is killing a human being
and it says in the bible not to have one and for gay marriges that is just nasty and gross

Bush Is Going To Win Kerry Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)


pessimistically, I might agree. But we at moveon are ready so that, when (and not if) Cheney tries some more underhanded tactics in Fl, well be ready. Impeachment, here we come.

who ho. even tough as my pols read bush is winning 38 to 3. ugh :sniper: :mp5: god darn it :( of course im in israel so they may be slower

Go Bush!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And yet we got tax cuts under Bush and Higher Taxes under King George III

yeah but 89% went to the rich for the purpose of money trickling up into their already fat money pouches oh wait... isn't it called the trickle down effect, i'm confused

kerry is for abortions and gay marriges! for abortions that is killing a human being
and it says in the bible not to have one and for gay marriges that is just nasty and gross

i'm all for aborting you, you dumb son of a

Go Bush!!!!!!!!!!!!!
die die die. interfecit interfecit. glogayem :mp5: :sniper: :mp5: :sniper:

GOD DAMN IT at the first poll closing Bush leads 34-3 over bush :headbang: :mad:

kerry is for abortions and gay marriges! for abortions that is killing a human being
and it says in the bible not to have one and for gay marriges that is just nasty and gross
ok, thats it. at the risk of sounding Coulter-ish or Moore-ish, I want a genocide of the bible-thumpers!!!

ps, check out sam t's work
http://www.ebolaworld.com/mainpage02.html

who ho. even tough as my pols read bush is winning 38 to 3. ugh :sniper: :mp5: god darn it :( of course im in israel so they may be slower

no that's correct, but that is only in states that were decided a loooong time ago, nothing important.

no that's correct, but that is only in states that were decided a loooong time ago, nothing important.
o ik. jus tought i bring some bad news. lol ;)

kerry is for abortions and gay marriges! for abortions that is killing a human being
and it says in the bible not to have one and for gay marriges that is just nasty and gross
seriously, am i the only person who notices the odd correlation between poor grammar and right-wing ideology? i mean, i'm not saying all right-wingers are stupid, just that a surprising preponderance of uneducated and ignorant people seem to be right-wing.

i'm all for aborting you, you dumb son of a
you must not be a christain

ok, thats it. at the risk of sounding Coulter-ish or Moore-ish, I want a genocide of the bible-thumpers!!!

ps, check out sam t's work
http://www.ebolaworld.com/mainpage02.html

Coulter is an arch-conservative, and moore is ultra liberal, they're total opposites

Go Bush!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, please do. I can suggest any number of destinations....

seriously, am i the only person who notices the odd correlation between poor grammar and right-wing ideology? i mean, i'm not saying all right-wingers are stupid, just that a surprising preponderance of uneducated and ignorant people seem to be right-wing.
no everyone does they have jus grown use to it. lol

Yes, please do. I can suggest any number of destinations....
nice spin. ;)

you must not be a christain

i'm a pro-choice Cristian! it's none of my buisiness what people due long as it ddon't affect me, the Bile is not the law. an you can't impose religious beliefs on other people.

pessimistically, I might agree. But we at moveon are ready so that, when (and not if) Cheney tries some more underhanded tactics in Fl, well be ready. Impeachment, here we come.

I'm volunteering with moveon too! Honestly, from what I saw, I think Kerry is actually going to win.

i'm a pro-choice Cristian! it's none of my buisiness what people due long as it ddon't affect me, the Bile is not the law. an you can't impose religious beliefs on other people.
go u. whoever u r
:)

Coulter is an arch-conservative, and moore is ultra liberal, they're total opposites
but theyre both horribly radical.
Not in all of their points, it seems. Actually, both make some sense most of the time, then end with a horribly retarded and illogical conclusion

Moore : so, as I have proven, The Christian Coalition secretly hopes to revive Hitler!!!

Coulter: So, as I have proven, Liberals should have their hearts ripped off and eaten! its the only way to save America!!!

but theyre both horribly radical.
Not in all of their points, it seems. Actually, both make some sense most of the time, then end with a horribly retarded and illogical conclusion

Moore : so, as I have proven, Th christian Colaition secretly hopes to revive Hitler!!!

Coulter: So, as I have proven, Liberals should have their hearts ripped off and eaten! its the only way to save America!!!
dude when the draft happens becuz of bush. the military trained liberlas will kill u before u have cahnce to rip out their hearts. botard.

nice spin. ;)
Thanks! Glad you liked it.

Thanks! Glad you liked it.
i give credit to those who deserve it. :)
and kill those who dont :sniper: :mp5:

dude when the draft happens becuz of bush. the military trained liberlas will kill u before u have cahnce to rip out their hearts. botard.
what??? by your grammar, Ill just go ahead and assume youre right-wing. if not, please correct.

what??? by your grammar, Ill just go ahead and assume youre right-wing. if not, please correct.GOD NO! I am just typing quickly and have been using AIM a lot. Plus, I said im Israel at the moment. Duh.

lol :sniper:

like bill hicks said about his father "It's not that i don't like bush, it's just i think he's a child of satan sent to destroy the world" it's strange how it applies even more to his son.

like bill hicks said about his father "It's not that i don't like bush, it's just i think he's a child of satan sent to destroy the world" it's strange how it applies even more to his son.
tell me about it
;)

GOD NO! I am just typing quickly and have been using AIM a lot. Plus, I said im Israel at the moment. Duh.

lol :sniper:

ah, I see. Ok then...
WHO LIKES MY SIGGY???

this is good because typical repub. states are to close to call. which never happens and means bad things for Bush. Maw ha aha ahah (evil lol) caugh
die bush :sniper:

ah, I see. Ok then...
WHO LIKES MY SIGGY???
what siggy

what siggy
can you not see it? change your settings.
Anyway, it goes like this

The No CARB diet
no: Cheney
no: Ashcroft
no: Rumsfeld
no: Bush

and definitely no rice

take a look at the news, so far its bush 39 and kerry 3 in electoral votes

ah, I see. Ok then...
WHO LIKES MY SIGGY???
I would, but I disagree with those fad diets as a matter of principle.

take a look at the news, so far its bush 39 and kerry 3 in electoral votes
patience, patience! only the places at which today it is 7:40 are counted, none earlier. And florida is without tally, as Is new england and California. and the middle United states are not even done voting. patience! I say!

I would, but I disagree with those fad diets as a matter of principle.
So do I, im...ah, forget it

Mind you, I have to make an exception to that rule on this one.

Only georgia, kentucky, Indiana and NH are counted. a few numerous for Bush,. the least numerous for kerry.

also: west virginia -> bush
:headbang: :mad: :headbang:

Oh Asssassins, you don't understand the rules very well do you.. First, I can call Bush a stupid moron who was appointed by the Supreme Court and not elected by the people and that is not flamebait or a flame. However if I were to call YOU or any other player of Nationstates that it would be. We only offer moderation to Nationstates members, so unless you can prove to me that the President has been hanging out on nationstates, I'm afraid you don't seem to understand the rules. There are a lot of people who believe Gore won the last election and that Bush stole it, I'm one of them! Given this is a wide spread popular belief, it can't be seen as flamebait. It's come up on the forums for a very long time. It's never been against the rules. So get with the program dude! :)
Outstanding, you do see through the mud. NOW take this very fine example, and SHOW US where and how my man CALLED ANYBODY a name! That is the whole reason I jumped on this. He opposed you, and used generalizations, BUT NEVER singled out any member, nor did he call any single member a name. Since it is now clear to you and all of us, that you understand, and there was no direct name calling it's time for your penance.

ugh. Now im angry bush went to wv.

if he wins will anyone in israel pleaz kill me. :sniper: :mp5:

only speculation.
besides. theres always east virginia.
what ur not a right wing (east virginia)
:D
yall need to wait

results so far show Bush winning on most sates by, like, 2% or less

kerry wins illionis, new jersey, maryland, massachuestss, connetciut, maine, delaware, disrt. of colum.
Bush alabama, oklahoma, tennesse

yeah :)

Kerry 77
bush 66

u need to jump for joy people :) ;) :D :p :rolleyes:

:upyours: repubs who want bush

im confused some say
bush 80
kerry 77

im confused some say
bush 80
kerry 77

It's Kerry 77 - Bush 66

u need to jump for joy people :) ;) :D :p :rolleyes:

:upyours: repubs who want bush

There seems to be more red states that are undecided than blue states.

Polls more off in favor of Kerry than Kerry supporters even thought?

u need to jump for joy people :) ;) :D :p :rolleyes:

:upyours: repubs who want bush

*jumping*
*then jumping some more*
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

*jumping*
*then jumping some more*
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
yaeh :) opps i broke a lamp, :p jumping

It's really early folks.. I don't believe any one should be jumping for joy either way at this point. It's going to be a long night.

It's really early folks.. I don't believe any one should be jumping for joy either way at this point. It's going to be a long night.
yeah but we r happy and need to b :D

It's really early folks.. I don't believe any one should be jumping for joy either way at this point. It's going to be a long night.

i'm not breaking open the champagne just yet, just putting it in the fridge

in the meanwhile: beers & coffee (black, lots of it)

i'm not breaking open the champagne just yet, just putting it in the fridge

in the meanwhile: beers & coffee (black, lots of it)
nice
champgne sound tastey along with a lot of coffee. :)

nice
champgne sound tastey along with a lot of coffee. :)

ok, i lied

it'll be cava (spanish 'champagne'), as i'm not the one benefiting from bush's tax reduction programme

still... i'll be enjoying

:p

no fl may fall 2 bush. :mad: hay want a good website for info go to

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/

ok, i lied

it'll be cava (spanish 'champagne'), as i'm not the one benefiting from bush's tax reduction programme

still... i'll be enjoying

:p
Ill be hitting it up with a few champagnes and a few Guaros tonight! Fuck schools and fuck child drinking Laws.

Ill be hitting it up with a few champagnes and a few Guaros tonight! Fuck schools and fuck child drinking Laws.nice. ;) does that depend on who wins or not. :confused: Becuz that may not be till december. :D

Bush right now wins Both Fl and ohio by 54-45 both, but thats witj little more than 2 million counted in FL and less than 200,000 on Ohio.

nice. ;) does that depend on who wins or not. :confused: Becuz that may not be till december. :D
Ill drink all the way to december!!! ;)

b-74 k-77
oh-oh

b-74 k-77
oh-oh
actually...S. Carolina just went red. Its b-81 k-77

Ill drink all the way to december!!! ;)

nice. get drunk a lot :p

its all different depending on chanel
ugh help

nice. get drunk a lot :p

its all different depending on chanel
ugh help
I watch nbc. slightly to the rigt, but helps keep me grounded, and its not outright lies like fox

I watch nbc. slightly to the rigt, but helps keep me grounded, and its not outright lies like fox
im watching cnn and that website i said early, which say 87 to 77 bush :mad:

im watching cnn and that website i said early, which say 87 to 77 bush :mad:
Dammit! Theyre right! Bush Just got N. Carolina!!

This is all nice, but it's all states that we already knew were going one way or the other. Ohio and Florida are the ones we need to watch.

As an Ohioan, I can say that we're pretty conservative. BUT we've lost some jobs, and Kerry was very good at capitalizing on that.

Also, keep in mind exit polls, and pre-election polls mean crap. We can all assume Texas is going for Bush, but until the actual ballots are counted it's all up in the air.

My prediction: Kerry will win two out of the Big Three swing states, and thus the election. Sad, really.

the world is coming to an end. shoot me :sniper:

bush 107
kerry 77

I just checked, 102 Bush, 77 Kerry.

But, again, we were already pretty sure how these states would go.

This is all nice, but it's all states that we already knew were going one way or the other. Ohio and Florida are the ones we need to watch.

As an Ohioan, I can say that we're pretty conservative. BUT we've lost some jobs, and Kerry was very good at capitalizing on that.

Also, keep in mind exit polls, and pre-election polls mean crap. We can all assume Texas is going for Bush, but until the actual ballots are counted it's all up in the air.

My prediction: Kerry will win two out of the Big Three swing states, and thus the election. Sad, really.
sad indeed, that such a douche as kerry is president, but happy that satanic puppet Bush wil return to the hellhole he calls home-texas.

I'm surprised Kerry did so well in PA

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/PA/P/00/index.html

CNN has a good set-up. I think we should make that the one to watch together so we don't get confusing details (to limit dumb arguments and flaming).

I just checked, 102 Bush, 77 Kerry.

But, again, we were already pretty sure how these states would go.
tru but im melodramatic ;)

b-102 k-77 (cnn)

aaaaaaah!!! *running in terror*

shit, i'm part of 'old europe'

aaaaaaah!!!

the world is coming to an end. shoot me :sniper:

bush 107
kerry 77
howd you get that??

I'm surprised Kerry did so well in PA

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/PA/P/00/index.html

CNN has a good set-up. I think we should make that the one to watch together so we don't get confusing details (to limit dumb arguments and flaming).
I like msn better..alas, I will make a sacrifice

Still too early but yes its beginning to look a tad grim. The southern states going to Bush is no surprise though.

Early returns show Penn. and Ohio going Kerry and Florida going Bush...

Those were the big swing states, I wonder where that puts us.

Note, these may change

I'm surprised Kerry did so well in PA

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/PA/P/00/index.html

CNN has a good set-up. I think we should make that the one to watch together so we don't get confusing details (to limit dumb arguments and flaming).
prob cuz theres no nader there

I like msn better..alas, I will make a sacrifice
nah :(

Early returns show Penn. and Ohio going Kerry and Florida going Bush...

Those were the big swing states, I wonder where that puts us.

Note, these may change
I Fl is my biggest concern. If we win florida, kerry can don a Nazi uniform if he wants, for all that the people will care, we won!

I like msn better..alas, I will make a sacrifice

Results ARE results after all. It's not like opinion. Unless there are contested results all news outlets should be getting the same data.

BTW Although Kerry is the better choice for America I'm betting on Bush because no Democrat wants the mess that Bush created. He made it, he can own it.

Early returns show Penn. and Ohio going Kerry and Florida going Bush...

Those were the big swing states, I wonder where that puts us.

Note, these may change

no, check it out, most of the current decided places are hit north fl. where I live, south Fl, theres quite a few Liberals. yet theres also a lot of hispanics, key rep. Group. Yet a lot of retirees and college students...yet...
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/FL/P/00/index.html

Does anyone else think the Bush lead in Florida sounds a little off?

It's noT a BIG lead mind you, but...

Seriously, as much as I like to see liberals squirm, we already knew how these states were going to vote. It doesn't mean anything till Ohio and Florida go. So don't flip out yet, your jerkass candidate could still pull through.

Plus, Californias a shoo-in (shoe-in?) for Kerry, so add, like, 54 or whatever to Kerry's total.

Of course, Bush has the back-up of the Right Wing Conspiracy, so expect martial law to be enforced if Kerry pulls ahead. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Does anyone else think the Bush lead in Florida sounds a little off?

It's noT a BIG lead mind you, but...
remember that, for fl, the south is a bigger part of the pupolation and more liberal. ask me, all gore states are going for krry. including Fl, republican assholes.

wowzers! bozers! im catching a flight out this demension so that i dont get blown up and am going to one where kerry does win. that is only if he losses of course :( . But m preping the plane and pilot. (Engines roar in the background) (headphone: pilot ready, yes monsuer)
but ill stay until the missiles r fired after bush wins. if he does

hugs and kisses to all the ladies :fluffle:
according to cnn, kerry owes 'em big time

Oh, yes. The REAL fun occurs AFTER the election regardless of who wins.

Also just in: Whoever gets Colorado takes all of the state's electoral votes.

EeeK! They're processing Ohio, Florida, PA, MS, AR, and a few more as we speak! I'm forgetting my own rules and starting to flip out! *breathes into paper bag*

New data has us at 155-112 in favor of Bush, credit CNN

dam it. 155 bush to 112 kerry
:rolleyes:


(headphones: ready to leave sir; yes ill board now.) :(

Bush: 155
Kerry: 112

Wow. I hit refresh and BAM all that red.

Strange... I'm getting 112-77 with Bush in the lead from CNN.

Strange... I'm getting 112-77 with Bush in the lead from CNN.

Did you hit REFRESH?

People, people...they're only counting the obvious states...it's not a "race"...

Throw in California for Kerry, add 55.

nader is winning in luisania
:D

My TV is telling me different than the Computer. Like the Results so far either way. :D

Also just in: Whoever gets Colorado takes all of the state's electoral votes.
Grr... I was hoping that would change, no matter who it helps.

dam it. 155 bush to 112 kerry
:rolleyes:


(headphones: ready to leave sir; yes ill board now.) :(

Neither candidate has carried a contested state yet. All Bush's reds and all Kerry's blues were expected, so far. It's still way up in the air.

Look at the exit poll numbers in Ohio. Trending towards Kerry by a lot (thank you women voters and Independents!)

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/OH/P/00/

bush IS leading 53 to 46 in florida (cnn)

Bush is showing a surprising lead in Michigan and Florida so far, Pennsylvania looks surprisingly Kerry now

Nothing out of the ordinary so far.

The only thing that I was surprised at was the huge Independent turnout for my homestate of New York; 26%!

Neither candidate has carried a contested state yet. All Bush's reds and all Kerry's blues were expected, so far. It's still way up in the air.

Look at the exit poll numbers in Ohio. Trending towards Kerry by a lot (thank you women voters and Independents!)

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/OH/P/00/ srry wrong. bush the tush is carrying ohio. look closer :(

Bush is showing a surprising lead in Michigan and Florida so far, Pennsylvania looks surprisingly Kerry now
I think once Specter takes the lead you can look at our (PA's) real leanings, Specter was holding a regular 18-20% lead, simply put suddenly falling behind by 20% shows that the majority of precincts being counted right now are from Philadelphia.

This is a nail-biter isn't it? :D

How many more hours til its over?

srry wrong. bush the tush is carrying ohio. look closer :(

Did you click the link?

How many more hours til its over?

If it's anything like last year, about 8,135,543.23

[QUOTE=Upitatanium]This is a nail-biter isn't it? :D

How many more hours til its over?[QUOTE]
ah let me think.................






A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(overhead voice: Prepare for take off)

srry wrong. bush the tush is carrying ohio. look closer :(

I believe he's looking at the exit polls which favor Kerry by a decent margin.

we r making a come back in the close staes such as ohio, fl... pen we r sweeing 3/1 :)

I hate to burst everyone's bubble ,but my mom's watching the election on TV and Bush is winning so far.

Whoo hoo!

(Just practicing)

:D

(Disclaimer: I may not have the best grammar or typing skills but am I by no means Stupid)

Ok i feel I have to make a point.

I will start by saying that at 10:15am this morning voted in the 13th Precint of Stark County, Ohio. I Voted for John F. Kerry.

Now having said that this goes out to all you non-americans with feelings about our elections. Yes the USA has a big impact on the world. But what happens domestically should stay with those that matter. I know you all don't like bush and I don't either but I must say I resent that any foreigner has anything to do with our election and a fair amount of americans do also. I really wish you would all would leave it the hell alone. Now I must say if I was looking north and saw Canada have an election, I'd just shrug and say its their busisness and let it go at that. Do you know why, regardless of what I read on the Internet or in Foreign(Canadian for this instance) Newspapers I do not fully UNDERSTAND your politics. Why is that? I don't live in Canada, I don't live in the same culture, I am not Canadian. I may have a bit of jist but I am by no means qualified to choose the candidate, vote for one or even say who would be best for the average canadian. And my guess is a lot of canadians would call me an arrogant american if i did profess that opinion if it ran contrary to their own. I could really try to understand and make a huge effort and i may gane some understanding but really why should it matter. Different Country, doesn't really affect me DIRECTLY. Since everything can affect everyone in someway no matter how big or small indirectly.


I believe myself to be a nationalist and patriot. I serve my country and State. but by no means do those opinions make me a brainless moron.

I hate to burst everyone's bubble ,but my mom's watching the election on TV and Bush is winning so far.

True but they haven't counted a lot of Democrat-leaning states yet.

And the exit polls do tend to favour Kerry.

*shOck* Louisiana goes to Bush

Mississippi goes to Bush too.

That pretty much covers the states going for Bush. We'll see the blue states popping up soon.

Au contrair, Kerry will kost likely win Minnisota, Washington, Oregon, Pennslyvania, and a couple more states. Bush still has a while to go.

I hate to burst everyone's bubble ,but my mom's watching the election on TV and Bush is winning so far.
ah shut up, or sheket as we say in hebrew. :p

dam 164 to 112

bye yall plane is now flying over the mediterraean

Mississippi goes to Bush too.

That pretty much covers the states going for Bush. We'll see the blue states popping up soon.
There aren't any more Blue (non-swing) states left on the map until you get to the West Coast.

I resent that any foreigner has anything to do with our election and a fair amount of americans do also. I really wish you would all would leave it the hell alone.

Thanks you Council of Clan. While I thing the word "resent" may be little strong for my own personal feelings, I agree with the sentiment. I myself voted for Bush, (please, I'm not here to participate or reactivate "Bush is stoopid" "No, Kerry's stoopider" rants), but I also think that those not in the USA or in our culture somtimes have a tendency to feel they know what "should" happen, just as we as Americans have been many times (often accurately) portrayed as trying to decide how other countries should run themselves.

Please leave us to our election.

fl. is getting close and they havent counted those jews there yet.(maimi dade) WIch will make Kerry win automatically. :D

Thanks you Council of Clan. While I thing the word "resent" may be little strong for my own personal feelings, I agree with the sentiment. I myself voted for Bush, (please, I'm not here to participate or reactivate "Bush is stoopid" "No, Kerry's stoopider" rants), but I also think that those not in the USA or in our culture somtimes have a tendency to feel they know what "should" happen, just as we as Americans have been many times (often accurately) portrayed as trying to decide how other countries should run themselves.

Please leave us to our election.


Heh Bush supporter or Kerry supporter WE ARE ALL AMERICANS(that voted at least)

we can agree on something

Heh Bush supporter or Kerry supporter WE ARE ALL AMERICANS(that voted at least)

we can agree on something

Yep. Only the non-voters are the real losers here. The whole voting process takes about 3 minutes if there are no lines.

Fl, kerry is geting back uo, with still large misrepresentation from the south. if it werent for my fellow Hispanpics, we would have it won by now..

how many elec. votes does pensylvania have??

where did ya all go :confused:

Yep. Only the non-voters are the real losers here. The whole voting process takes about 3 minutes if there are no lines.


Thats exactly how mine was, My G/F's Prescint took her a half an hour or so, i walked in, made sure i voted in the right prescint. and Voted. only a moron could screw it up.

only a moron could screw it up.

My dad made a joke by saying after he voted, "Oh crap!!! I accidentally voted Bush!!! I need to change my ballot!!!".

u guys bush jus called a press conference pretty much annoucing he won. :sniper:

we need a revolt ;)

u guys bush jus called a press conference pretty much annoucing he won. :sniper:

we need a revolt ;)

Canada welcomes revolutionaries. Just remember to wipe your feet before entering. We are very clean here :p

u guys bush jus called a press conference pretty much annoucing he won. :sniper:

we need a revolt ;)

If you don't like what is happening, leave the country.

Bush hasnt won, not by a mile. addin Cali to kerry puts 'em almost dead even. Bush has Fl and Ohio by a little, but fl is, again, with still nothing from Miiami-dade county.
Kerry most assuredly has Pennsylvania.
I think we just might Make it.

New Hampshire is swinging Kerry. It was swinging Bush a minute ago.

Bush hasnt won, not by a mile. addin Cali to kerry puts 'em almost dead even. Bush has Fl and Ohio by a little, but fl is, again, with still nothing from Miiami-dade county.
Kerry most assuredly has Pennsylvania.
I think we just might Make it.
to the one above this quote. im not in this country as it is, Israel as a matter of fact.

Ohio got tied up dude in ohio and fl's jewish pop. hasnt been counted

to the one above this quote. im not in this country as it is, Israel as a matter of fact.

Ohio got tied up dude in ohio and fl's jewish pop. hasnt been counted
fls has been, somewhat...
Palm beach and broward, namely, have the biggest jewish population ( I know, I live in Broward)
I have hope for miami-dade to give us Florida

fls has been, somewhat...
Palm beach and broward, namely, have the biggest jewish population ( I know, I live in Broward)
I have hope for miami-dade to give us Florida
ik.

damn mormons went for bush :mad:

oh, oh!!!

Miami-dade's leanin' blue!!! Fuck yes! Fuck yes!!

ik.

damn mormons went for bush :mad:

not really.
They arent even giving percentages. I dunno man, I dunno...

ik.

damn mormons went for bush :mad:

That's just the projected winner. Still I think they'll vote Bush anyway.

oh, oh!!!

Miami-dade's leanin' blue!!! Fuck yes! Fuck yes!!

ITS STARTING TO GO RED!!!!!!! HELL YA!!!!!

Wow! CNN calls Arkansas for Bush.

Still the state looks like it has a lot of blue to be called Bush.

Sorry to burst your bubble a bit.

For God's sake! OF COURSE BUSH HAD MONEY! If you go to Yale, you have money! It is a very prestigious school, and it is a private school. I don't know anyone who did not go to Yale without having money.

But other than that.....

Electoral vote count -- Winner in Bold Print, source under the data

Bush -- 176 Kerry -- 112
http://www.cnn.com/

Bush -- 176 Kerry -- 112
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

Bush -- 193 Kerry -- 112
http://www.foxnews.com

Bush -- 196 Kerry -- 112
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/Elections2004/President.html

ITS STARTING TO GO RED!!!!!!! HELL YA!!!!!
Miami-dade? its a 10% gap!! what are you smoking??

Miami-dade? its a 10% gap!! what are you smoking??

DAMNIT!!! My TV hasn't been working good with colors lately.

Double Wow! The prez is eating up the states in the projected winner category. Just...WOW!

missuori falls to evil :sniper:

theyre giving projected with small gaps, occasionally not giving us info at all (utah)

dont matter, Cali=fl=penn= prez

Bush is still holding Florida by a couple percent points though.

Just out of interest, consider this thought. ALL the states vote exactly as they did last time, except for ONE. Say that one is New Hampshire going to Kerry instead of Bush. That would give Kerry 270 EV and Bush 267. Then what??? LOL!!!

Just out of interest, consider this thought. ALL the states vote exactly as they did last time, except for ONE. Say that one is New Hampshire going to Kerry instead of Bush. That would give Kerry 270 EV and Bush 267. Then what??? LOL!!!

I'm watching NH closely too. I think that one is going to be very important.

The majority (if not all) of the traditional Bush Country states have been counted. We should be seeing more blues soon.

Just out of interest, consider this thought. ALL the states vote exactly as they did last time, except for ONE. Say that one is New Hampshire going to Kerry instead of Bush. That would give Kerry 270 EV and Bush 267. Then what??? LOL!!!
and..what about fl?? huh??

How did ohio/penn do last time??

I'm watching NH closely too. I think that one is going to be very important.

The majority (if not all) of the traditional Bush Country states have been counted. We should be seeing more blues soon.
hopefully :(

BTW Congrats on Obama, Senator for Illinois.

I really hope he runs for prez someday.

hopefully :(

Bush still has a while to go yet.

y dont they jus call pen. kerry :mad:

and..what about fl?? huh??

How did ohio/penn do last time??

Go Florida!

I know Ohio went republican last time.

Go Florida!
someone fucking tell me how ohio and penn did in 2000 god dammit!!

and Penn went blue

Okay, I'm officially going to break from supporting Bush. I am a sucker for an underdog.

Go Kerry!

NH and FL go BLUE!

Who really won the election?

this really sucks. :(

I can decide wiether to flee this demension or stay.

I'm calling this:

1.Florida: Bush
2.Ohio: Bush
3.Pennslyvania: Kerry

satan still hold ohio, while penn did blue. Its p to fl and nh now.

and..what about fl?? huh??

How did ohio/penn do last time??
Florida and Ohio went to Bush in 2000. Pa went to Gore.

some supreme being needs to help us. :(

some supreme being needs to help us. :(

has epiphany*..... or some supreme court

*smirks evilly* MWAHAHAHAHAHHA

don't give up on Ohio, only 35% is in, not to mention my absentee ballot :D

Look at utah. theyre giving it to bush with less than 500 votes. In-fuckin-sane.
Toldya, shoulda gone with NBC

don't give up on Ohio, only 35% is in, not to mention my absentee ballot :D


tru ' at
I think Ohio and NH will have better sense this time. Did we lose any from 2000??

Look at utah. theyre giving it to bush with less than 500 votes. In-fuckin-sane.
Toldya, shoulda gone with NBC
ik. I dont understand that and y bush thinks he already won
:sniper:

tru ' at
I think Ohio and NH will have better sense this time. Did we lose any from 2000??
yes a couple

Whoo hoo!

(Just practicing)

:D


Keep dreaming. It will help you get the disappointment.

Check again, homes. These would be the most up-to-date voter tallies: http://news.yahoo.com/electionresults

It's not likely at this point that Kerry's going to win.

Have u seen the polls on CBS :confused: Uh Oh. Looks like Bush is winning. Looks like all of you whiney liberals are about to get shot down :mp5: :sniper: You can all make fun of me tomorrow if I'm wrong, but I hava a feeling this isn't going to be that close of a race. :upyours:

Have u seen the polls on CBS :confused: Uh Oh. Looks like Bush is winning. Looks like all of you whiney liberals are about to get shot down :mp5: :sniper: You can all make fun of me tomorrow if I'm wrong, but I hava a feeling this isn't going to be that close of a race. :upyours:
screw u all :upyours:

(thrusters started, ok well depart once all is done captian)

Have u seen the polls on CBS :confused: Uh Oh. Looks like Bush is winning. Looks like all of you whiney liberals are about to get shot down :mp5: :sniper: You can all make fun of me tomorrow if I'm wrong, but I hava a feeling this isn't going to be that close of a race. :upyours:


again, look at the results in Utah. It say 0% REPORTING and less than a thousand votes in, they gave it to Bush. Its happened with more than a few. Things arent as grim as they seem.

Have u seen the polls on CBS :confused: Uh Oh. Looks like Bush is winning.

Last time it seemed that Gora was winning, we all knew the result and Adolfs election.

The cities still have to give their result. Exit polls are the only thing in the air. an dyes some redneck incest towns have allready results, but it is a result equal of their braincapacity: vague and non existant.

pen is falling to the axis

BUSH 193, kerry 112
this is going good
cant wait to hear democrats to whine

how dumb are you people

the lead Bush has now will evaporate in... 18 minutes

cuz the west coast (all democratic and populous) havn'e finished voting

BUSH 193, kerry 112
this is going good
cant wait to hear democrats to whine
add cali, its considerable better.
nad her brothers up north ( almost surely to us) and were just about tied.

BUSH 193, kerry 112
this is going good
cant wait to hear democrats to whine

I will withold my judgement until the big guns have been called out (many of which are leaning Kerry).

how dumb are you people

the lead Bush has now will evaporate in... 18 minutes

cuz the west coast (all democratic and populous) havn'e finished voting
true true but the other asses can go HIKAGHNESHed themselve. (that is so bad i cant be translated to english, jus so ya know)
:sniper:

Yeah, well it seems bush is winning the electorial college and the popular vote, kerry suck my balls

Yeah, well it seems bush is winning the electorial college and the popular vote, kerry suck my balls
well, were holding most of the mid-north, though not by much, and not many precints are reporting.
But, again, you dont have UTAh, not yet.

Yeah, well it seems bush is winning the electorial college and the popular vote, kerry suck my balls
u suck the entire worlds population other than the us. :p

*checks arsenal*
*checks torch stockpile*
Well, I'm ready...

Yeah, well it seems bush is winning the electorial college and the popular vote, kerry suck my balls
California will likely go for Kerry 60/40. 12 million voters expected. That's 7.2 million more for Kerry and only 4.8 for the shrub. Difference 2.4 more for Kerry

Yeah, well it seems bush is winning the electorial college and the popular vote, kerry suck my balls

say that again in 20 minutes

Yeah. While Bush overall has the lead in ASSURED votes (i.e. states that were definently going one way or the other) the swing states will be the deciders. PA looks like it's going to Kerry, FL and OH, still too close, though from what I've seen Bush has a minescule lead.

So, in summary

1) Electoral votes, minus the swing states, gives bush a small lead.

2) Still to close to call

3) FOUR MORE YEARS!!!

Ack, must remain objective...

When I first clicked onto this thread but I did figure its way too soon to call it. Hopefully Kerry will pick up a couple of those swing states.

*checks arsenal*
*checks torch stockpile*
Well, I'm ready...
totally we have dropped altitude so we will attach bush by sending dentally challenged children with a pointy stick at him.

pen went to kerry
:D

HEIL BUSH!

^^^To piss off you Kerry supporters ;)

Unless Kerry gets Ohio or Florida he is sunk. My instinct says Kerry will get Florida, but then thats not much more than a guess at this point.

Unless Kerry gets Ohio or Florida he is sunk. My instinct says Kerry will get Florida, but then thats not much more than a guess at this point.
he got penn

Unless Kerry gets Ohio or Florida he is sunk. My instinct says Kerry will get Florida, but then thats not much more than a guess at this point.
I camapaigned pretty hard here in fl. do not underestimate moveon here in Florida. we had almost 200,000 people absentee vote. just for the paper trail.

Being the Ohio pimp that I am, I went through a couple democratic precinects.

Cuyahoga County (cleveland) only 33% of votes are in

Hamilton County (Cinci) only 9% of votes are in

Lucas County (democratic stronghold) only 21%

so give er' time!

Unless Kerry gets Ohio or Florida he is sunk. My instinct says Kerry will get Florida, but then thats not much more than a guess at this point.

Bush still has a lead in Ohio and Florida.

Please, say it ain't so.

Unless Kerry gets Ohio or Florida he is sunk. My instinct says Kerry will get Florida, but then thats not much more than a guess at this point.

Doubt it. Bush is winning Florida by 5%, and with 87% of precincts reported, looks like it's Bush.

Basically, now it's down to whoever snags florida and ohio.

Get both, you win.
Get one, cancel out the other to a degree.

Doubt it. Bush is winning Florida by 5%, and with 87% of precincts reported, looks like it's Bush.

It would be odd if Bush won Florida after what happened in 2000.

It would be odd if Bush won Florida after what happened in 2000.
very odd...I got friends workin on like a bajillion cases to this time, scrutinize the votes untill they rot.

Basically, now it's down to whoever snags florida and ohio.

Get both, you win.
Get one, cancel out the other to a degree.

Yeah, it'll probably come to that.

Like I said earlier: it's a nail-biter.

BTW all the Bush supporters seemed to have all popped in at once. All of you just come back from voting?

lincoln was elected with only 39ish percent of the popular vote. he's the least popular president to be elected.

you guys here the story that they won't count the half million florida absentee ballots (mostly democratic) until Thursday? Kept within a half million votes, Florida cannot be called. So pray it stays within that margin.

very odd...I got friends workin on like a bajillion cases to this time, scrutinize the votes untill they rot.
what?


o I get it. GReat! :D

very odd...I got friends workin on like a bajillion cases to this time, scrutinize the votes untill they rot.
what?


o I get it. GReat! :D

188 to 197

Doubt it. Bush is winning Florida by 5%, and with 87% of precincts reported, looks like it's Bush.

Last reports I saw indicated that the big Democrat precincts are still out and there are in excess of a million absentee ballots yet to be counted. Those absentee ballots may not be as heavily Republican as they usually are.

197 bush
188 Kerry

He's comin back!!!

Last reports I saw indicated that the big Democrat precincts are still out and there are in excess of a million absentee ballots yet to be counted. Those absentee ballots may not be as heavily Republican as they usually are.
true

you guys here the story that they won't count the half million florida absentee ballots (mostly democratic) until Thursday? Kept within a half million votes, Florida cannot be called. So pray it stays within that margin.
good point. FLorida isnt in until thurs

Last reports I saw indicated that the big Democrat precincts are still out and there are in excess of a million absentee ballots yet to be counted. Those absentee ballots may not be as heavily Republican as they usually are.

This is too narrow a race. Just like 2000. Manomanomanoman!

God dammit NH is a slow counter. The great lake states aren't exactly speedy either.

MOVE IT!

Is FL really that close that they can't call it?

kerry is gonna get most lake state exceopt wi. and maybe ohio

fl, ari. wash. ohi. and mont. r to close.


what the hell is taking nh so long. Instaed ill drop there and help speed things up

Oregon's going sick-Kerry and Washington should fall in line

That was already taken into account.

Just repeat this mantra:

Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida


Regardless of who wins, I can guarantee:

1) They'll say they saw it all along.

2) They'll say it was obvious who would win.

3) They'll attribute the loser's defeat to one single flaw.

Screw CNN. I'm watching The Daily Show for my coverage (while I look at the CNN website and talk to you guys :D )

That was already taken into account.

Just repeat this mantra:

Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida


Regardless of who wins, I can guarantee:

1) They'll say they saw it all along.

2) They'll say it was obvious who would win.

3) They'll attribute the loser's defeat to one single flaw.
of course

Regardless of who wins, I can guarantee:

1) They'll say they saw it all along.

2) They'll say it was obvious who would win.

3) They'll attribute the loser's defeat to one single flaw.
Heh, you're probably right. Hindsight is 20/20; memory, far from infallible.

That was already taken into account.

Just repeat this mantra:

Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida


Regardless of who wins, I can guarantee:

1) They'll say they saw it all along.

2) They'll say it was obvious who would win.

3) They'll attribute the loser's defeat to one single flaw.

It is obvious. I saw it coming all along. He just attacked the other candiates too much.

Methinks Florida goes to Bush. Oh well.

Screw CNN. I'm watching The Daily Show for my coverage (while I look at the CNN website and talk to you guys :D )

same here

i had honestly thought kerry would win. stocks dumped on the thought kerry would win from wall street, too, starting at about 130 et.....but in reviewing so far...looks like bush is going to win. Florida isn;t being called because of 4-500,000 absentee, but only anout 180,000 are form heavily democratic areas, so everything rests on ohio......and who would've thought bush would be up by 1.9 million votes with 60% counted in the popular vote? this says if by some miracle kerry pulls it out, he will be utterly powerless in front of a republican congress, with repubs gaining majority in both houses slightly, apparently. pretty surprised, i bet a 12 pack of beer on kerry, too.

btw, i voted bednarik, libertarian candidate for pres, out of protest of kerry and bush, neither being acceptable.

Ohio is leaning to the Bush column...so is Colorado...

That was already taken into account.

Just repeat this mantra:

Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida,Ohio,Florida


Regardless of who wins, I can guarantee:

1) They'll say they saw it all along.

2) They'll say it was obvious who would win.

3) They'll attribute the loser's defeat to one single flaw.
of course

Ohio is leaning to the Bush column...so is Colorado...
nothing new

I repeat: WTF is taking NH so long!?

WEIRD.

So far

9% of democrats voted for Bush
7% of republicans voted for Kerry

That's just....odd. To me at least.