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Haraki
13-09-2006, 23:46
Darn me and my grammatical mistakes!

Edit: 2.5 Million.

OOC: For reference, that's the size of the entire military of China in real life, counting reservists, which is the largest army in the world. In any case that's a number I can at least work with, and hell - it's NationStates.




IC:

The stress was taking a hold of him. Reports coming in from the satellites showed massed concentrations of troops in the Undershi and Dephiran forces present in Danteri, and the imminent mobilization just showed that they were planning something big, that could guarantee the Harakian zone would be critically compromised. On the brighter side, his requests for reinforcements had been met with a yes. Locke had made some requests as well for more naval forces, and the Prime Minister had agreed to send the entire 5th Strike Wing, composed of ten twelve-plane squadrons of assorted tactical bombers, strike fighters and close air support. This would more than double the amount of land-based air support available to the Harakian forces, and at the same time he had been informed that elements of the 1st Advanced Bomber Wing would be sent to reinforce them, in the form of three flights of heavy bombers, capable of strategic bombardment, advanced logistical strikes and carpet bombing of enemy forces. The redeployment of these large-scale bombardment groups showed that Neil had done a good job of convincing the Harakians that an attack by an actual army was imminent.

On the naval front Wolfe had agreed to send reinforcements in the form of a force centred around one of the workhorses of the Harakian navy for quite some time - the large Dragoon-class carriers, in this case the HNS Ghost, joining the Perseus-class HNS Perseus, Shrike-class HNS Shrike, the two escort carriers Hermit and Conjurer assigned to convoy protection, and the light carrier HNS Kite. Plus two carrier-cruisers, the HNS Safe Haven battlecruiser, and two brand-new Atherlon-class battleships, the HNS Susa and HNS Pethic, the Harakian naval forces in Danteri were a force to be reckoned with, that could not only engage in close with deadly guns, but could also field an impressive 528 planes from the assorted carriers.

And on the gorund, to join the four and a half divisions already in place behind a very heavily fortified border with the former Zukariaan territory, the Prime Minister ahd agreed to more than double the number of fighting personnel present in Danteri by adding four mechanized infantry divisions - the 102nd, 103rd, 104th and 110th - one mountain division - the 3rd Mountain - and the 3rd Cavalry Division, for slightly over 60,000 new troops deployed. Although the 102nd, 103rd and 104th were less experienced than others, the 110th had seen extensive action in several theatres through its time of existence and was filled with scattered veterans of different conflicts. The 3rd Mountain "Alpine Juggernaut" Division was renowned for several impressive moments in which its soldiers proved that Major-General James Willoughby ran an incredibly tight ship. He was known throughout the Harakian military as being the one general most dedicated to training, having his men be as fit as possible and dealing with the most realistic training as possible, so even the newest recruits seemed to have a great deal of combat experience. The 3rd Cavalry was an airmobile division, entirely helicopter-based. It had seen some action, but not as much as the 110th.

Neil was overjoyed. He knew he would need more if he was to actually fight any real army, as his main antagonists were the Dephirians and Underhsi, who were fielding hundreds of thousands of military personnel, while his numbers had just been raised to slightly over a hundred thousand men. But he had a large advantage. The fortifications built along the border were large and extensive, and would provide a major hassle for anyone trying to invade the Harakian safe zone, and included several extensive airbases built twenty kilometresback from the frontier. Now he had ordered the engineer detachments to his units to begin making the Harakian-claimed land in front of the frontier (Taken after Zukariaa withdrew. The land was taken but the fortifications remain) as inhospitable to invading armies as possible. As no-one lived there anymore and it had all been destroyed by the Zukariaans anyway, they could make life for anyone approaching along that path hell. Neil's forces had never focused on rebuilding that part, instead focusing on the area behind the line of forts, which meant that the land had already been made inhospitable by the Zukariaans, which would make it very hard to sustain an army of any size outside the Harakian walls. Now the engineers did their best to make it possible to destroy the remaining infrastructure as quickly as possible. Bridges were wired with explosives, railroads were made ready for sabotage by Harakian forces, and plans were drawn up for a first round of air strikes to completely cripple the infrastructure of the area as soon as Undershi or Dephirian forces approached.

Neil knew as soon as a crisis was imminent and Haraki risked a war, that parliament would authorize much larger deployment of forces, especially if anything remotely resembling a state of war was declared by either party. As it was, he could make life extremely difficult for any invaders by speaking one sentence, and could then let reinforcements arrive. Of course, nothing was actually destroyed yet, which meant that if the situation was defused no damage would have been done.

Of course, with six new division arriving, it was quite likely that a much higher-ranked general would be brought in to take over the reigns of power. Both he and Locke were in danger of losing their command positions. He just hoped that if he and Locke were replaced, it was by good men - Vice-Admiral Al Lambert and Lieutenant-General Victor Moresby or Terry Serras, definitely not someone like Freebird or Hobbes. While good at logistics and design, they would not be able to take over the reigns of power at all well.

Alternately, he could hope against logic that they would instead just promote him. But that was about as likely as a dove landing on his head and making a nest. They didn't like him in headquarters. Freebird didn't like him. Freebird had some clout, and he did not want Neil assuming the same rank as him.



With all these preparations complete and all his necessary worrying over for the time being, he signed the necessary documents and left to go see Luisa. If he was going to be relieved of command and forced to take orders from someone else, he would at least get in as much time avoiding his job as possible until he complained loudly about being relieved of command.
Dephire
14-09-2006, 00:20
OOC:
Finally some actual RP'ing!!!

IC:

With the entire northern section of Danteri under the Undershi-Dephire Rule, no one could interfere with the construction of Dominator-Class Rail Cannon platforms. Several airbases were planned out, and were under construction. Manufacturing plants for weapons, vehicles, armour, and ammunition were also being constructed. The citizens within the territory were treated not as a conquered people, but as well respected people. Even under the rule of an Emperor, the citizens were doing fairly well. Alexander himself ordered to rebuild their cities. This included the sections of the ruined Danteri City. Though still slightly radioactive, the Dephirians were able to lay over three hundred tons of a compound to counter the radiation. Hopefully within weeks the radiation would clear, and the area would once again be hospitable.

Along with the improvements towards the back-country, there were several improvements towards the front lines. Trenches stretching from coast to coast were being dug out. Most were twenty feet across, and nine feet deep. Many were flooded with ocean water to make it even more difficult for the enemy forces to cross.

The Dephirians began to spread out along the border as well. Setting up many bunkers and towers as they went. Shorter range artillery were placed at one mile intervals. Further back behind the lines were the longer ranged artillery. The Dominator Class Rail Cannons were the furthest behind the line, for they were not too great at close range. Well, they were..but the seismic wave produced would cause much collateral damage.

OOC2:
Dominator-Class Rail Cannons are roughly 3600 ft long and 50 feet wide by 55 feet high. They range in size depending on the situation at hand, larger cannons are in the Dephirian Homeland. The DCRCs are equipped with several different types of ammunition, their favorite being the 1360mm Anti-Ground round.
Undershi
14-09-2006, 00:28
OOC: Just for the record, the total of all Undershi personel in Danteri, including support units, naval, airforce and ground, come in at slightly over one million - not even close to 25 million!!!

The Undershi army advanced, moving forward against the Danterian partisans. Whenever an attack occured, every Danterian civilian who could be found within ten miles of the attack would be taken and enslaved unless they could give information leading to the arrest and/or destruction of partisan units - if they did, then they and their family would be allowed to remain free.
So far, the Danterian terrorists have had some small scale success - they have disabled a Drake class MBT, and killed a total of forty one Undershi soldiers - not to mention all of the delays their attacks are causing...
Still, the Undershi jugernaught advances - as it always would, leaving behind it a trail of crucified rebels and burned villages - it looks as though the Undershis might finish what the Zukariaans began and exterminate the entire population of Western Danteri...
Haraki
14-09-2006, 00:28
OOC: No offence, but I'd really rather prefer you didn't use guns that big. They just, well ... wouldn't work with today's technology. Yes, I know they're rail cannons and all, but this RP is modern tech. If you'll notice, my people aren't using gauss cannons and rail guns and rocket-propelled battleship shells and superdreadnoughts. I'd rather, as I've established (in this thread!) in the past, keep this all modern tech. As everyone agreed to it then, the standing technology available in this RP has been, essentially, what exists today.

Just for comparions, a badass gun that is the largest-calibre gun ever actually produced. I want one. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_David)
Undershi
14-09-2006, 00:31
OOC: What about the Paris gun? I thought that was the largest gun around...
Okielahoma
14-09-2006, 00:44
OOC Wow this thread has been overrun by n00bs! I mean worse than i was Haraki!:D (Yes i spelled ure name right:D :p ) Im out of this RP 4eva unless i change my minde which is very likely... *whistles 25 million...
Dephire
14-09-2006, 01:43
OOC Wow this thread has been overrun by n00bs! I mean worse than i was Haraki!:D (Yes i spelled ure name right:D :p ) Im out of this RP 4eva unless i change my minde which is very likely... *whistles 25 million...

For one, I never said anyone had twenty-five million!

For two, NS draftroom said my cannon was feasible for Modern Tech.

For Three, if you had a bloody problem with my cannon, you should of said something about fifty pages ago when Vega invaded with the DCRC.
Okielahoma
14-09-2006, 02:16
For one, I never said anyone had twenty-five million!

For two, NS draftroom said my cannon was feasible for Modern Tech.

For Three, if you had a bloody problem with my cannon, you should of said something about fifty pages ago when Vega invaded with the DCRC.

Hey i wasnt talking about you Dephire!
Boomer Sooner buddy!
Dephire
14-09-2006, 02:19
Hey i wasnt talking about you Dephire!
Boomer Sooner buddy!

Lol.
Undershi
14-09-2006, 03:46
OOC: My homeland has just been invaded. I'm now at war with The Bomand Empire (hope I spelled that correctly...)

Things didn't look good for the Empire at this particular moment. Undershi itself looked to be about to be invaded... and that was truly terrible. IIS Commissar General Pavel Khan examined the reports from Shore Defense Command with delibrate slowness. They had already launched a counter attack - some 200 odd Golden Eagle heavy bombers sent off to attack a fleet with sixteen aircraft carriers... it had been a noble effort, one even supported by Undershi Orbital Weapons, but... in the end, it looked as though it had failed. Undershi itself would be invaded.
As such, the High Command - the real one that was, the IIS High Command, had just sent him another order - halt all offensive operations and send as many men and as much material as he could home to fight the Imperial Bomand Empire. As such, it looked like he would have to slow the pace of opperations - his carrier was already leaving for the fleet rondevue point where they would form up to try to do what they had done to the NSAA navy - hit them from behind with overwhelming force.
Without the air support from that carrier, his chances of succesfully overruning the Haraki Safe Zone had suddenly gone from excelent... to uncertain. It looked like he would have to wait - even the Neue Neue Deutsch got lucky sometimes, it seems...

OOC2: About 100,000 of the Undershi soldiers in Danteri are being shipped back to Undershi - along with almost all of their air support. As such, the remainder are commited to a new course of action - advance to the edge of the various areas still claimed by intact governments, and then wait... for whatever came to be.
Dephire
14-09-2006, 09:17
The Dephirian Offensive came to a startling halt as well. With their ally not being able to pull out an offensive, the Dephirians had to lay low for a bit. Many began to reinforce the fronts, and further reinforce those reinforcements. Completion of the make-shift airbases was nearing completion. As were the DCRC platforms.
Antigr
14-09-2006, 16:18
Ok all those in the alied coalition.Attack now?
Neue Neue Deutschland
14-09-2006, 19:37
OOC: Attack? I don't know - the Neue Neue Deutsch government is unlikely to approve a First Strike. Still, I think they'll go with whatever Haraki says - which is?
Dephire
14-09-2006, 20:13
So basically...we are at a standstill. Yippee!
Undershi
14-09-2006, 21:51
OOC: Yep.

IIS Commissar General Pavel Khan stood atop a Viper IFV, the knuckles of his left hand white as he grasped a hand-hold, trying to maintain his balance as the Viper made its way towards the forwardmost Undershi units, where he would be able to look out across the wastes of No Man's Land... and see the Haraki, Neue Neue Deutsch and Antigirans who he would soon be at war with... if they attacked... or if they didn't - he had just gotten word from IISHQ in Undershi City - as soon as the Homeland was secure, they would deploy more units here, and begin a war that would see the arrogant humbled - Undershi would prevail, and soon... soon perhaps the steel-shod boots of the Undershi Army might tread upon the streets of Neue Berlin and whatever city the Haraki used for a capital.
Of course, there was a possibility that they might avoid such a war - the Neue Neue Deutsch certainly seemed cowardly enough in The Khornate Tribes, where their Expeditionary Force even now abandoned its outer defenses rather than face the might of the Undershi... perhaps they might force a similar conclusion, and have Danteri without a fight? In the end it didn't matter - the Undershi Empire would prevail. Such was the clear end result of any conflict - as NSAA had learned to its dismay, as so many others had as well... as so many more soon would. Victory was the destiny of the Undershi - such was the creed of the IIS, and so such was also the creed of Commissar General Pavel Khan.
Dephire
14-09-2006, 22:11
OOC:
Undershi, if you have to leave you can. I promise you that your forces will not lose. You and I are one of the strongest alliances the world has ever seen. All who oppose us shall fall. If they surrender, they would be spared. But if they still wish to fight, we will slaughter them by the millions. This is the New Alexander. Let us roll out our tanks, launch our fleets of aircraft, send in our armadas of Naval Craft, and let them tast the utter brutality of our Combined Armies. They will regret the day that they opposed the new change, the Undershi-Dephirian Change!
Haraki
15-09-2006, 03:54
OOC: By the way, just before you start any hasty invasions, you probably should know (As I assume your intelligence/diplomatic groups would have done their homework) that Haraki counts some rather large and influential nations as allies, with several rather militaristic treaties and alliances binding us together. Although they're not involved in this, you know, threats of an invasion of Haraki, which is on the same island as a bunch of allies such as, say, Automagfreek, would be seen as not the best move for diplomatic relations.

Also, at the first sign of a hostile movement from any Undershi or Dephirian forces, the Harakian air units on constant standby will launch a preliminary round of air strikes at predesignated infrastructure targets such as bridges, junctions, railway switching yards, that sort of thing. At the same time, small feelers of Harakian engineers have been deployed throughout no-man's-land, which will detonate a lot of explosive charges if they receive the orders (Which will go out at the same time as the air strikes happen). These charges will do pretty much the same thing as the air strikes, only with added fun ones, like causing landslides onto highways with carefully-placed charges. They will then retreat behind the line of forts. These measures will slow down your forces and mess with your supply lines until repaired. No Man's Land actually stretches for a few dozen to a hundred kilometres because it's land taken from the Zukariaan-controlled area when they withdrew, but never rebuilt. Also, since no one lives there anymore I can do this with a clear conscience.







IC:

The orders were in place. The reinforcements had arrived, the ground forces deployed straight to the frontline from their convoy protected by the HNS Ghost, which had left to join the naval forces. Meanwhile, work on the fortifications had redoubled with all available engineers and construction crews. And with war looming on the horizon, parliament was frantically trying to increase the deployment of ground troops to Danteri, although it would still be some time before they could be mobilized.

By now there were perpetual flights of attack planes in the air, ready for strikes on logistical targets and on advancing forces as soon as hostilities opened. Fighters were always in the air around the Harakian ground area and around the fleet, as well as a lot of other air forces on ten-minute standby, including the new heavy bomber group, which was outfitted with carpet bombs and was ready for a thirty-six plane carpet bombing of the advancing forces within half an hour of hostilities opening.

In other words, the Harakians were prepared. Behind a wall of heavy fortifications and with hundreds of airplanes accessible for air defence and a first strike, the first action of any form of fighting would consist of a massive Harakian air strike, on infrastructure targets as well as actual ground forces. Meanwhile, long-range missile sites and the fleet had designated a number of important targets that would, upon the start of hostilities, launch a volley of missiles at what were designated as important sites: Command posts, headquarters, communications stations, supply dumps, ammunition depots - The brains and supplies of the military. If they could keep them disorganized and out of supply, the Harakians could wear them down and win it.

OOC Note: The main missile which will be used for this missile strike is the Trebuchet cruise missile, which is fired from vertical launch systems almost directly up and travels to its destination in the upper atmosphere, over 75 kilometres off the ground, before hitting its target almost directly vertically. As you can imagine, by the time it hits it's going incredibly fast and is pretty much impossible to stop, and as it travels it is all-but impossible to detect or shoot down since it's up so high. When it hits, it hits with not only that much force, but also with a 450 kg payload, around the same as a Tomahawk missile.

A secondary weapon which will be used but not as much and not on as important targets is the conventional Lightning Bolt cruise missile, essentially a modified and Haraki-made version of the Tomahawk.
Pantera
15-09-2006, 14:10
OOC:
Undershi, if you have to leave you can. I promise you that your forces will not lose. You and I are one of the strongest alliances the world has ever seen.

OOC: Holy shit! I nearly ruptured myself laughing, there. Good one!

IC:

Reports in Pantera indicate that the Lord Reaver has been keeping a close eye on events involving his Gholgothan ally of Haraki. In a brief, unauthorized statement, a source close to the Evenstar claimed that he would brook no interference or combat action within Gholgoth proper and is alreay discussing counter measures with his Lords and generals, should the alliance arrayed against Haraki attempt any sort of action.

The Lord Reaver himself was unavailable for comment.
Antigr
15-09-2006, 16:02
I'm sending in a navy fleet,consisting of the all-new Super-Battleship ASS Auston (named after the capital,Auston),Armed with Guided missiles,Chainguns,and Railguns,the new submarines ASS Drona and ASS Krona,armed likewise but with railgun replaced by Guided torpedoes.Also 2 Duke Class Carriers,6 Forrest Class Cruisers,and 13 Colt Class Destroyer leaders (a heavy type of destroyer)
The Crimm
15-09-2006, 23:29
An older man, in his sixties at least, stood at a podium. "It has come to my attention that there is a small group of nations that are overstepping their bounds against Gholgoth. This is unacceptable. The nations of Undershi and Dephire are hereby ordered to stand down or your own homelands will be invaded and annexed into the Intercontinental Empire."

He paused and a map appeared behind him, showing the two nations. "While your nations are under Imperial rule, they will be stripped of all resources. Your people will be used for slave labor and your military executed. Your military equipment will be studied to see if, by chance, it is in some way superior to our own. The rest will be sold off on the world market. We will then leave your nation and let the wolves of the world have their way with what's left. We've done it before and we'll gladly do it again. Respond within twenty-four hours, or your lives are forfeit."

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High Commander Andrew Coleman IV
Supreme Leader of Crimmond
The Transylvania
16-09-2006, 01:50
A message to the governments of Undershi and Dephire:

I just got some bad news and at the same time it is good news. I heard you two are messing with Gholgoth, really a nation that chills in Gholgoth. The Social Democracy of Haraki’s land will not be touched or your armies will have to the massive army of the Dominion. My soldiers will be ruthless against your soldiers, killing everything that moves. They will slip your soldiers and your people blood for me. They will bottle the blood and ship it back to the Dominion for me. I will drink your people’s blood, it will taste sweet like victory.

Now, stand down or face the wraith of the Dominion.

~ Count JWolf, the God-Emperor of the Dominion.
Sniper Country
16-09-2006, 03:16
Speaker Drew Haltom stood at his podium to the front of the Senate Hall.

"Undershirt and Deflier? Uh, whatever. Any nation or group of nations which chooses to play games and dance with a nation of Gholgoth shall face the consequences. Of course, I doubt they'd need our assistance, seeing as the Lord Reaver and Damien Dreadfire are always up for a purge of nations, but you can never count us out. What? They said what?! ... Heh ... That's funny. You let Haraki and her leadership know one thing: They call, we haul. This meeting's over."

(It was later reported that the Speaker was heard laughing for nearly an hour when hearing of the claims these invasive nations made.)
Aequatio
16-09-2006, 03:25
OOC: Tag for Gholgoth involvement.
Automagfreek
16-09-2006, 06:06
~From the desk of Lord Damien the Destroyer, Supreme Warlord of the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek~

Word has reached my ears that a Gholgothian is being wronged by a few pathetic shitbags who think they are too big for their britches. It is always amusing to me how little ones such as Undershi and Dephire seek to play hardball with the real badasses in this world.

I am not interested in hearing your politicking, your explanations, or your pleas for mercy. Undershi and Dephire have been foolish enough to stirr the indomitable power that is Gholgoth, and for that they are hereby ordered to stand down all military aggressions and submit themselves to our regional authority. The entire region will place your nations under tribunal and decide your fate.

Failure to comply will result in the total expunging of your worthless, specks of nations. Though Automagfreek is busy slaughtering the once megapower state of the Five Kingdoms [Melkor Unchained], we would gladly send forth our Sentinel legions to extract vengeance upon Undershi and Dephire.

You have 24 hours to comply before Gholgothian ships depart for your lands. Against Automagfreek there can be no victory, and against Gholgoth there can be no redemption. Tick tock.


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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
[NS]Zukariaa
16-09-2006, 06:28
Official Statement By The High Commander

As an ally of both Undershi and Dephire, I think it is time Zukariaa says something about this strange turn of events. Undershi and Dephire are advised to stand down. It is foolish to stand up to Gholgoth, as much as you may want the honor of fighting them. It is stupid to fight them, especially over a resource-less, radioactive pile of mud like Danteri.

Find somewhere else, Danteri isn't worth it.

Signed, The High Commander
The Crimm
16-09-2006, 06:55
I'd listen to your ally. He's definantly the brains of this operation. Though I'm honestly hoping you won't listen. Been too long since someone stupid enough to attack Gholgoth has shown up and it'd be interesting to see you squirm.

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Agent 283
Advisor to the Senate
Former Intelligence Minister
Retired Black Staff Agent
Antigr
16-09-2006, 09:06
OK.Not that I don't want it,but how come me,Neue Neue Deutschland,and Haraki all suddenly have loads of allies?
Pantera
16-09-2006, 13:46
OK.Not that I don't want it,but how come me,Neue Neue Deutschland,and Haraki all suddenly have loads of allies?

You don't.

Haraki, on the other hand, is a member of the region of Gholgoth and the alliance of Gholgothan nations. Being a member of said alliance and region, Haraki is graced with the friendship and pledge of the mightiest nations on earth, and his word is made law by our might.

In other words: Do your homework. Don't fuck with our Gholgothan brethren.
Dephire
16-09-2006, 13:51
OOC:

I am getting now pissed off at this.

Where the fuck are you shitheads coming from? You can't just walk in and say that you are going to attack my nation for invading a fucking territory of DANTERI. Undershi and I are not fighting Haraki, except for the land of which they occupy. You can't just pop out of no-where and force us to stand down! Undershi and I have been in this war for a long time, and NOW after several month you are forcing us to stand down? Any actions taken from this
Gholgoth is going to be taken with an IGNORE. Furthermore, how are you going to attack us anyway? We have given Haraki a chance, and they turned it down. Also, no one has really attacked, except for Haraki. So that looks as if the 'Good Guys', so you call yourselves, are really the aggressors. If you think that invading a territory is enough to bring up full-scale war against a nation, then go ahead. I just hope you know what the ADAN and GASN think of your actions. Oh, let me throw in the CA for Undershi's sake. That's what...a total of seventy-eighty nations all together? Unless you have suffecient evidence that will side with you to attack Undershi and I, then everything you throw at us will be ignored. The Undershi-Dephire Joint Forces are not standing down because we have been here longer than any of your Gholgoth's. ((Exceptions for Haraki.))

Also. Who's side are you an Aequatio? These are threats against a fellow GASN member. Are you seriously siding with them? I wonder what Cravan would think about that.

Now for a further speech about homeland invasions. There is no way you can put in more than five million people unless if you truly want your economy to collapse and everyone die of starvation. Considering that it's an invasion of someone's homeland, you would be pitted up against the most of my nation's population. Number wanking? No. In real life, you would fight for your country if it were invaded, wouldn't you? Think about that before you go off and blindly declare war.
Pantera
16-09-2006, 14:01
OOC:

You can get pissed off at this.

Threatening an ignore because you don't like the way things are playing out is childish and silly. Haraki has been a member of our region and alliance for a good while now. Even a little bit of research on your part would have shown you that he's in tight with some rather nasty characters. An ignore at this juncture, for no other reason than 'I'm taking my ball and going HOME' is fucking silly. You dug your grave, now either stand down, or lie in it.

Now, seeing as how AMF and I alone total well more than ten-billion souls, not to mention a further five or six billion from Crimmon, Aequatio, SC, etc etc etfuckingc, I'd say it wouldn't be hard at all for us to field five million men.

We've smashed nations and alliances that had far, far more on the table than you, little friend. Best to tuck your tail, accept you've been checked, and stop the OOC whining. It's not becoming, and an ignore here will only cost you credibility.
Dephire
16-09-2006, 14:30
OOC:

-Laughs-

Aequatio wouldn't dare turn against a fellow GASN member. That would result in a ban.
Pantera
16-09-2006, 14:33
Way to grab at a periphereal point in my post and reply only to it.

Your days are numbered.
Dephire
16-09-2006, 14:35
Way to grab at a periphereal point in my post and reply only to it.

Your days are numbered.

So, let me get this straight. Haraki hasn't been in this conflict as long as Undershi and I, yet because he was a member of your alliance for awhile, now he can just have Undershi and I stand down like that?
Pantera
16-09-2006, 14:43
So, let me get this straight. Haraki hasn't been in this conflict as long as Undershi and I, yet because he was a member of your alliance for awhile, now he can just have Undershi and I stand down like that?

No no. It's not that at all. It has nothing to do with how long you've been involved. All of the minor details aside, like you being involved in combat with an ally, Haraki, it all boils down to one major point here:

We are strong. You are weak. If we desire what is yours, we will take it and make it our own.

Maybe you don't know our reputation in Gholgoth, but I'd advise you to do some thorough research. Ask around about the name New Spartha. That will be a good starting point for you. AMF wiped him out. Then move on to one of my own conquests, ESF. I purged a few million elves because they made a three-hour military excursion into Texas.

Start with those, but by all means keep looking. We've got nearly four RL years of nastiness here at NS behind us. There will be plenty to make your knees knock.
Antigr
16-09-2006, 15:28
OK.So you gholgoth people are ordering Dephire and
Undershi to stand down there militaries because Haraki is
your ally,therefore taking Haraki,me,and Neue Neue Deutschland's side,
and if they dont stand down,you will anihalate them,
therefore meaning we win the war without actually doing anything?

EDIT BY SCOLOPENDRA: You have exceeded the Fun Happiness Interrogative Punctuation Limit 728-point-5, Citizen! The FHIPL 728.5 was formulated by Friend Computer itself to maximize your happiness, and so excess suggests you treasonously attempting to prevent your own happiness!

Seriously. Lay off on the unnecessarily long string of question marks.
Automagfreek
16-09-2006, 15:34
OOC: Dephire, why are you trying to justify this OOCly? This is not a closed RP, therefore we are well within our right to enter it.

It has nothing to do with how long you've been in the RP, or what you've done thus far. ICly we are well within our rights to attack you, because ICly you are fighting our regional ally, and ICly we don't care about your reasoning. Face it, you messed up by trying to take on Haraki, and ICly your leaders and nation as a whole are going to have to deal with the consequences.

Threatening to ignore us when we clearly haven't godmodded and have been IC the whole time is very bad form. Everything we have done is perfectly within the bounds of RP etiquette, so either accept it or go take your ball home.

You been talking quite a load of OOC smack, calling us shitheads and saying things like this:

OOC:
Undershi, if you have to leave you can. I promise you that your forces will not lose. You and I are one of the strongest alliances the world has ever seen. All who oppose us shall fall. If they surrender, they would be spared.

So either play the game or go somewhere else, because as I said before we are well within our right to be here.
Antigr
16-09-2006, 15:39
Anyway,i'm pulling back ADEF (Antigr-Danteri Expeditionary Force into a really really REALLY tight defensive circle next to the southern coast where they can be backed up by the Navy and Navy Air Force.And i'm upgrading it to a full 5 Million Men,all because this war just became one step bigger than a war.
Dephire
16-09-2006, 15:40
OOC:

I haven't even declared a battle against Haraki. Yes, I stated that I will attack and attempt to destroy all who oppose Undershi and I, but before hand I was thinking of trying to come to terms with Haraki because I do not really believe in actual conflict, but mere persuasion. The main reason why I'm upset is that I haven't attacked, but merely took over what wasn't being controlled and thought I might beef up my defenses. Furthermore, because I am not the aggressor, when I stated on the "all who oppose us", I meant anyone who attacks, not when we attack if we attack.
Antigr
16-09-2006, 15:42
Dephire,you wanna truce between you and me? Things have just got dangerous.......

That doesn't mean being your ally though.I might end up fucking up and been turned to dust,and i don't want that.
Automagfreek
16-09-2006, 15:47
In fact, allow me to dissect this post.

OOC:

I am getting now pissed off at this.

Where the fuck are you shitheads coming from? You can't just walk in and say that you are going to attack my nation for invading a fucking territory of DANTERI. Undershi and I are not fighting Haraki, except for the land of which they occupy. You can't just pop out of no-where and force us to stand down!

Of course we can. In the real world this sort of thing happens all the time, look at the first Gulf War. ICly we are totally justified in entering this conflict, and your OOC feelings are irrelevant. Why can't you keep it IC?

Undershi and I have been in this war for a long time, and NOW after several month you are forcing us to stand down? Any actions taken from this
Gholgoth is going to be taken with an IGNORE.

So....when was a statute of limitations enacted in terms of when you can and cannot enter a RP?

Furthermore, how are you going to attack us anyway?

Because our IC leaders do not like your acitons. Simple as that.

We have given Haraki a chance, and they turned it down. Also, no one has really attacked, except for Haraki. So that looks as if the 'Good Guys', so you call yourselves, are really the aggressors.

You can totally think that OOCly, but ICly we see ourselves as the good guys, regardless of any OOC truth. Again, why can you not keep this in character? This *IS the RP forum, not a General Discussion or OOC forum.


If you think that invading a territory is enough to bring up full-scale war against a nation, then go ahead. I just hope you know what the ADAN and GASN think of your actions.

ICly we do see that as reason enough, and you are more than welcome to bring all the allies you can find. While I personally feel that it will not do you any good, you are certainly entitled to.


Oh, let me throw in the CA for Undershi's sake. That's what...a total of seventy-eighty nations all together?

Numbers are irrelevant. We have plenty of allies ourselves....not that we would need them. If you want to turn this into a giant inter-alliance war, you probably won't like the results.

Unless you have suffecient evidence that will side with you to attack Undershi and I, then everything you throw at us will be ignored.

We are *NOT* going to justify our IC actions OOCly. That is VERY poor form on you behalf to ignore us simply because you don't like the consequences of your IC actions. You are starting to sound very noobish.

The Undershi-Dephire Joint Forces are not standing down because we have been here longer than any of your Gholgoth's. ((Exceptions for Haraki.))

Your posts are lacking continuity. First you say you'll ignore us, then you tell us that you won't stand down? This posts sounds like it was written in a state of panic, without any real coherency to it.

Also. Who's side are you an Aequatio? These are threats against a fellow GASN member. Are you seriously siding with them? I wonder what Cravan would think about that.

Aequatio has been allied to some of us for over 3 years.

Now for a further speech about homeland invasions. There is no way you can put in more than five million people unless if you truly want your economy to collapse and everyone die of starvation. Considering that it's an invasion of someone's homeland, you would be pitted up against the most of my nation's population. Number wanking? No. In real life, you would fight for your country if it were invaded, wouldn't you? Think about that before you go off and blindly declare war.


My nation is larger than yours and Undershi combined THREE TIMES, and that's just me. There are others in Gholgoth that are larger than me, though I am probably the most militant alongside Pantera.
Automagfreek
16-09-2006, 15:49
OOC:

I haven't even declared a battle against Haraki. Yes, I stated that I will attack and attempt to destroy all who oppose Undershi and I, but before hand I was thinking of trying to come to terms with Haraki because I do not really believe in actual conflict, but mere persuasion. The main reason why I'm upset is that I haven't attacked, but merely took over what wasn't being controlled and thought I might beef up my defenses. Furthermore, because I am not the aggressor, when I stated on the "all who oppose us", I meant anyone who attacks, not when we attack if we attack.



OOC: That's fine, I totally understand and sympathize with your point. However, this is IN CHARACTER, and as a result OOC feelings or positions are irrelevant. We have been IC the whole time, and for you to start with the tirade about how we need to justify this OOCly reflects poorly upon you.

We're just trying to play the game, and we've done nothing to warrant an ignore. We can't we just have fun and RP?
Antigr
16-09-2006, 15:51
Oh shit........................! :headbang: :confused: :eek:

Dephire,read my other post about a military truce.now or never.....
Dephire
16-09-2006, 16:01
"A truce sounds grand. Even though Dephire will not use Nuclear Weaponary. Haraki, your allies have made it clear enough. No military action will be placed against you. I do not know what Undershi's plans were, but the people of Dephire only wanted to reunify Danteri. Actual military action was last resort. Soloriel was an ally, and so when he departed...self explanitory really. Furthermore, any actions that may have been misread as full on militaristic action towards your nation is...false. We were only meant to intimidate and persuade. Dephire wasn't really going to try and attack. Yes, we have set up large bases and DCRC's in the territory Undershi and I have claimed...but those were defensive purposes only. You may have known that Dephire is the founder of the ADAN. ADAN stands for Aggressive-Defensive Alliance of Nations. We are a Defensive nation. So all of the military forces within my territory are doing just what they were supposed to do and defend the territory at all costs. I'm sorry for the misinterpretation. All forces, do not attack. I repeat, DO NOT FIRE!"
The Crimm
16-09-2006, 16:05
OOC:

You can't just pop out of no-where and force us to stand down!

OOC: Take a look around. We just did.

As for supporting troops... I control a large swath of North Eastern Europe and Northern Africa, along with a large piece of Gholgoth. Trans controls pretty much everywhere else in Europe(and technically my European lands too, but we worked out a solution to that). I have one of the largest industrial cities in Europe, responisble for raising temperatures over the continent by five degrees in twenty years.

AMF and Pantera have gigantic swaths of natural resources to draw upon. As do many, many others in Gholgoth. I'm not saying we could fight a neverending war... but we don't have to. We just have to outlast you.
Antigr
16-09-2006, 16:05
Ok.Now,i think you'll need to resolve the 'small matter' with this enormous great big giant empire that intends to crush you to a pulp and then a bit
Dephire
16-09-2006, 16:11
OOC:
Okay. Now Alex is back in control of his own Account. WHAT THE HELL DID JOHN DO NOW?! Oh my god! I'm gonna kill him!!!!

IC:

"As I said. Dephire is now under Defensive status. No more Aggressive actions will be taken against anyone...except for a few annoyances in other conflicts."

OOC2:
Please read the previous post! John's an idiot.
The Crimm
16-09-2006, 16:11
We have moved the nation of Dephire from it's position at number three on the Nations to Annex list, back down to a more fitting place in the hundreds. I'd suggest you keep your word and not strike a Gholgothian empire again. Next time, we will not hesitate to launch an attack.

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High Commander Andrew Coleman IV
Supreme Leader of Crimmond
Dephire
16-09-2006, 16:13
We have moved the nation of Dephire from it's position at number three on the Nations to Annex list, back down to a more fitting place in the hundreds. I'd suggest you keep your word and not strike a Gholgothian empire again. Next time, we will not hesitate to launch an attack.

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High Commander Andrew Coleman IV
Supreme Leader of Crimmond


Thanks man. Now, can someone assist me in murdering my room-mate? I, Alex...the true owner of the account, was in the bloody hospital. Now I come back and my damn nation is almost invaded. What the hell John?!
Antigr
16-09-2006, 16:18
I can send you an AMS Stormtrooper Armoured Heavy Tank Regiment for that.It'd do the job.
The Crimm
16-09-2006, 16:19
Thanks man. Now, can someone assist me in murdering my room-mate? I, Alex...the true owner of the account, was in the bloody hospital. Now I come back and my damn nation is almost invaded. What the hell John?!

OOC: Either that's a bold faced lie and you're trying to make it look like you had no control over your nation, or it really happened. Either way, I'd suggest pelting him with hard boiled eggs.

Now, back to seriousness.
Antigr
16-09-2006, 16:22
But the heavy tanks would be better,if not sliiiiightly ruthless and horrifc
Dephire
16-09-2006, 16:24
"Thanks for the advice, and no...It was not a lie. I was in a car accident two and a half weeks ago. They (the doctors) wanted to keep me around in for alot of tests. Turns out I had a concussion, and a broken rib or two. Yes, it hurts like hell to move, especially standing up or sitting up. Once I get back to my full health, I'm going to bloody kick John's ass. But back to NS."
Cravan
16-09-2006, 16:25
((Figgered I should say somethin'.))

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Imperial Department of Foreign Affairs

The Democratic Empire, although an ally of Dephire through GASN, warns Dephire to stand down immediately and prevent further conflict. Due to the nation of Undershi and Aequatio's involvement, the DEC cannot guarantee your safety against an action from Gholgoth. Undershi due to our refusal to ever assist such a nation, and Aequatio due to our close alliance with one another which was born out of war. ((OOC: He's been with Gholgoth for three years and I believe we've been allies for about half a year. So, Deph...)) We deeply apologize that we cannot assist, but as said we suggest you stand down.

We will, of course, watch the situation closely. If it does boil down to combat, we will offer our assistance as a third party neutral negotiator. We hope and pray, however, that it does not result in open armed conflict, for the sake of billions worldwide.

Signed,

Louis McHenry
Louis McHenry
Director of Foreign Affairs

((OOC: Right, it appears in this case I side with AMF and the rest of Gholgoth OOCly. This situation was provoked in an open RP, and this is a prime example of a diplomatic crisis running its course and leading to possible conflict, which is how wars really should start. Deph, threatening to throw an ignore when they have a justified IC reason to jump in really won't get you anywhere, and you should probably instead agree to negotiate somehow before jumping on the "OMFG u r big lolz!!!11!!!one!!!" bandwagon. The situation has run its course, and this is the result from your and Undershi's actions. Athough I am a promoter of RP etiquitte and requesting permission OOC to attack, this case is the exception because an IC situation ran its course to cause this, not just a couple guys getting together and deciding to invade while discussing it all OOC.))

((OOC2: And after pressing preview I noticed alot more shit has happened... Right then, disregard this post if I addressed anything in the situation which has already been resolved.))
Antigr
16-09-2006, 16:28
He has stood down (i think)

We were just discussing the matter of John + <Something horrible>
Dephire
16-09-2006, 16:31
Yeah...Cravan...a bit late. -Chuckles-

I still do not know the full extent of John's actions, which scare me.

Yes, I was the one that started the ADAN, and I have been in there from time to time...but...wow.

Haraki, I must apologize to you. John's an idiot.

Oh, yes I am allied with Undershi. It was I who declared the alliance.
Cravan
16-09-2006, 16:35
OOC: Well wouldn't John at least mention that he was in control while you were away? Or something?

Although I trust you OOC, I do find this quite unlikely he, or you while popping in from time to time, would not say anything. Or you upon your return.
Dephire
16-09-2006, 16:47
He didn't say he was taking over for a bit?

That would explain why there is so much confusion.
Antigr
16-09-2006, 16:52
uh-huh.I take it this 'war' is no longer a war,thanks to the intervention of those ghol-things.
Antigr
16-09-2006, 16:55
"Thanks for the advice, and no...It was not a lie. I was in a car accident two and a half weeks ago. They (the doctors) wanted to keep me around in for alot of tests. Turns out I had a concussion, and a broken rib or two. Yes, it hurts like hell to move, especially standing up or sitting up. Once I get back to my full health, I'm going to bloody kick John's ass. But back to NS."

I'm lucky.The closest i've ever come to breaking a bone was when i sprained my ankle and tore the ligaments on the joint.Didn't stop it from bloody hurting,though........

To the point.What do you think of me becoming a member of ADAN? I need something like that
Dephire
16-09-2006, 16:58
I'm lucky.The closest i've ever come to breaking a bone was when i sprained my ankle and tore the ligaments on the joint.Didn't stop it from bloody hurting,though........

-Glares-

Bastard...-laughs-

Only kidding. So..yeah.

Back to actual IC:

"All nations involved in this war. I want to call a conference meeting between everyone. Maybe we can actually find a way to have a peace."
Antigr
16-09-2006, 17:00
I second this motion of peace.We'll need to stay for peacekeeping puposes though.
Automagfreek
16-09-2006, 17:01
How is it my fault i forgot the name of your alliance?


OOC: Because that's how my characters act. <_<

Chill, I deleted the post....
Antigr
16-09-2006, 17:03
I'm lucky.The closest i've ever come to breaking a bone was when i sprained my ankle and tore the ligaments on the joint.Didn't stop it from bloody hurting,though........

To the point.What do you think of me becoming a member of ADAN? I need something like that

Well?
Antigr
16-09-2006, 17:06
Anyway,i'm going offline for a bit.see ya
Dephire
16-09-2006, 17:15
Sorry about that...typing an apology letter as we speak.

If you wish to join the ADAN or GASN (I would recommend both because they are equally awesome!) please go to the ADAN thread. Or GASN thread.

This however is not supposed to be in this thread, for it is advertisement.

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"Where shall we have this conference?"
Antigr
16-09-2006, 17:23
New thread,closed to all but us Danteri war people.Anyway,as i said,i'm going offline now sry
Clandonia Prime
16-09-2006, 17:29
OOC: Err I'm not sure which side I will stand on for this one if it goes tits up. Dephire get on msn if you can for talks.
Haraki
16-09-2006, 20:24
OOC: A conference is not necessary because no war actually happened. There hasn't been an official war since Zukariaa and Soloriel got in a fight a while back.




IC:

The tension had passed. The Harakian forces in Danteri were now at a state of peace once again, although for the fourth time they were now faced with hostile forces facing them across the border after hostile conquest of the rest of the country. First it had been the Danteri Loyalists, then the Zukariaans, then the Soloriens ... Now, the Dephirians and Undershi. But there seemed no more danger of a war starting anymore. The Harakian forces in Danteri were taken down a stage in alertness, although with air patrols still in place and defences ready along the border, just in case.

Back in Haraki, parliament breathed a collective sigh of relief. A nearly-certain war had been prevented by the quick thinking of the Harakian Diplomatic Corps, who now had a new mission: The peaceful reunification of Danteri, preferably under Harakian control. After all, the Harakian safe zone was, although not the most populous, the most secure and the most rebuilt. With constant fighting between the other nations that Haraki had not been a party to, the other zones of control by the other nations had been torn apart, plus they had always seemed more focused on fighting each other than working on peaceful construction projects.

The Harakian zone, on the other hand, had almost everything Haraki itself had: A nearly thriving economy, luxuries like electricity, clean running water and a trustworthy police force, and even a workable government with democratically elected representatives of the people.

Perhaps a conference would need to be held. Not for talks of peace or war, but for talks of how and when to implement the reunification of Danteri.
Undershi
16-09-2006, 21:53
OOC: Wow. You forget to log on for two days, and... wow.

ICly: The Undershi Foreign Ministry, apparently terrified by the thought of angering a whole list of major nations currently on their "try to avoid the attention of for aprox. the next two thousand years" list has sent an emmissary to the Haraki with a very simple offer: Haraki gets its allies to leave the Undershi Empire alone, and Undershi leaves Danteri... except for a little strip of the western coast, where they will maintain naval bases. This offer comes with no strings attatched other than the calling off of the aforementioned super-power allies - the Undershi will even release all slave laborers currently in Danteri (Aprox. one million foreigners, plus about two million Danterians).
They await the Haraki reply.
Undershi
16-09-2006, 22:09
OOC: I'm assuming that you're going to accept my terms, but this stuff is going on before the agreement is reached - the Undershi are, after all, having their homeland invaded...

The first of the Vipers rolled up the loading ramp and onto the heavy transport. Another followed just after it, and then another and another and another - the Undershi High Command, or rather the IIS Council which gave it orders, has ordered the pull out of some of the mechanized and armoured units even before the Foreign Ministry hears back from the Haraki - they are needed back home, where the invasion continues...
Aequatio
16-09-2006, 22:20
OOC:

-Laughs-

Aequatio wouldn't dare turn against a fellow GASN member. That would result in a ban.

I wouldn't attack you, but I would certainly pressure you to cease your actions, as I've been a member of Gholgoth a lot longer than I have been in GASN.
Dephire
17-09-2006, 01:04
Undershi has left his claims and control of the Joint Territory to me. There will be no more conflicts in this war. The remaining nations in this civil war have just completed the reunification of Danteri for we are now at peace. May our futures be enlightened with peace for the rest of our lives.
Antigr
17-09-2006, 14:30
I'm downgrading the ADEF situation from 'War Forces' to 'Peace-Enforcers', but it'll be a while 'til they become 'Peacekeepers'.Anyway,this is good news. Dephire,is our truce still on?
Dephire
17-09-2006, 14:33
I'm downgrading the ADEF situation from 'War Forces' to 'Peace-Enforcers', but it'll be a while 'til they become 'Peacekeepers'.Anyway,this is good news. Dephire,is our truce still on?

Of course!

Now...how are we going to keep this thread alive?

Do we need to rp some foreigners trying to dismantle our peace?
Antigr
17-09-2006, 15:54
a new terrorist side steps in and is against everyone.
Dephire
17-09-2006, 15:56
a new terrorist side steps in and is against everyone.

Oh yay! Another Terrorist!
Western Danteri
17-09-2006, 16:02
OOC: That would be Sara von Freiburg and co., right?

As the Undershis conducted their hurried withdrawl, Sara von Freiburg stared at the milling masses of slave laborors through a pair of binoculars... and felt a new loathing for these Undershis building within her. They were worse than so many other states - rather than merely enslave their people through economic means, these fascists felt the need to have the chains out in the open, to have such wretched suffering occur. She hated them.
Still, they were leaving, and so it seemed time to turn to other matters - to other enemies of the Danteri people. The Dephirans, those one time lackeys of the Undershi - they would be the next on her list of targets. Already the first of her teams were moving into position to launch their attacks...
Dephire
17-09-2006, 16:07
"With Undershi gone, All slaves are free to depart. Dephire has no need for slaves, and does not care for the practice of using slaves. Therefore, you can all go home. We shall try and rebuild lost homes and cities for you to live in. Hopefully we can restore Danteri ten-fold. Long Live Danteri! Long Live Dephire! WE ARE THE DEATH OF CAPITALISM AS WE KNOW IT!"

OOC:
Yeah. Dephire isn't a slave-loving country. Having slaves would also violate my GASN code of honour.
Antigr
17-09-2006, 16:50
OOC: That would be Sara von Freiburg and co., right?

As the Undershis conducted their hurried withdrawl, Sara von Freiburg stared at the milling masses of slave laborors through a pair of binoculars... and felt a new loathing for these Undershis building within her. They were worse than so many other states - rather than merely enslave their people through economic means, these fascists felt the need to have the chains out in the open, to have such wretched suffering occur. She hated them.
Still, they were leaving, and so it seemed time to turn to other matters - to other enemies of the Danteri people. The Dephirans, those one time lackeys of the Undershi - they would be the next on her list of targets. Already the first of her teams were moving into position to launch their attacks...


Dephire is neutral now like the rest of us,so launching an attack now will incur another war which we do not need
[NS]Zukariaa
17-09-2006, 17:35
OOC-I don't think the Danterians care. They want everyone out of their home. Doesn't matter to them if they are neutral or not, it seems.
Antigr
17-09-2006, 17:56
Zukariaa;11692833']

OOC-I don't think the Danterians care. They want everyone out of their home. Doesn't matter to them if they are neutral or not, it seems.

Well,as i said,my troops are still at the 'peace-enforcers' level,which means they can take defensive action......
Haraki
17-09-2006, 18:56
OOC: I think this RP may have run its course. Perhaps the time has come to reunite Danteri and hand the reigns back over to Danteri himself.





IC:

With the crisis settled down and the Dephirians apparently much more willing to accept peace than the Undershi, Neil and Locke could breathe a collective sigh of relief. And they did, right after accepting the Undershi peace offering.

Now it was back to business. With the crisis over, parliament was sending no more reinforcements, but those already in place would stay. On the other hand, the time seemed to have come for Harakian superiority in the area to be asserted. And what the Harakians wanted, in their good democratic peaceable way, was to reunite Danteri under Danteri leadership. Of course Harakian advisors would stay if desired by the Danterians, and the Harakians would help them rebuild. But what was most important now was diplomacy.



To: All involved parties
From: Rear-Admiral Felias Locke

I believe the time has come for the reunification of Danteri. At this point in time this will be headed by Haraki, as the Harakian safe zone seems to have prospered more than any other area in war-torn Danteri. Due to the success of the Harakian reconstruction effort, it seems that the Haraki-Neue Neue Deutschland-Antigr coalition is the most logical one to head the diplomatic reunification of Danteri, and the subsequent rebuilding efforts.

Under the proposed reunification, all territory currently held by any foreign power in Danteri will be handed over to a central government currently situated in the Harakian safe zone, where the representatives of the people already meet. Once this has been accomplished, recreating the proper nation of Danteri, the Harakian construction crews will go to work rebuilding the nation, composed of physical reconstruction efforts aimed at the infrastructure of the entire country. As the best way to rebuild a government is form the bottom up, we will focus on elections and other such things on a small scale first, for villages, towns and cities' governments before a national one is established.

Over the nest year following reunification, the construction crews will work their best to rebuild the country while at the same time the small-scale county and then provincial governments are established, in free and open elections with no political parties. Please note that before any elections occur, all political parties will be disbanded and anyone will be allowed to run for the position on offer.

Once this is all completed and the one year buffer zone is finished, the reconstruction efforts will get to work creating a new Danterian parliament. Every one hundred thousand people will elect a representative to act as a member of parliament. Anyone can run in these elections, as there are no parties. Once this has been established, all members of parliament will be allowed to run for the position of prime minister, and three months after the parliamentary elections, there will be an election for prime minister. After all this has been accomplished and a centralized government created over the decentralized small-scale governments already put into place, the governmental reconstruction will be deemed to be complete and political parties may be reestablished.

Once a new government has been established, Danteri will be under their jurisdiction. This will be following fifteen months of Harakian reconstruction as already seen in the Harakian safe zone. It will be up to the new government when foreign forces will leave the nation. Until such time as the new government asks for Harakian military forces and construction groups to leave the nation, the Harakian forces will stay in Danteri to protect the fledgling nation and help rebuild it. Of course, close ties will most likely be kept between the new government and the Harakian government to allow Danteri to rebuild itself properly, with proposed subsidized trade deals and lucrative offers from Haraki aimed at helping Danteri rebuild itself.

This is what is best for Danteri and the Danterian people. This is why we came to Danteri in the first place. We are willing to go to great lengths to accomplish the reunification and reconstruction of Danteri, and I hope you all agree with us on this point.


Felias Locke
Dephire
17-09-2006, 20:18
"Speak for yourself in your version of reunification. Being in control of Undershi, Soloriel, 23Eris, Norhtern Territory, and parts of yet another long gone nation's territory, I have an overall seventy-five percentile. Actually, it's closer to eighty and above. Yes, I will return most freedoms back to the Danteri people, but they will still be subject to Dephirian Law. Thus they are automatically a part of the GASN and ADAN alike. This is to better benefit them in case anyone tries to take away their freedoms. They can have local governments, such as city mayorships and governors, but they are still subject to Dephirian Federal Law. We are at peace with every other fellow nation in this conflict. So do not feel as if you are being threatened in any way. The area of Danteri under Dephire's control will be protected. We will be spending countless amounts of Sarajevos to be used in rebuilding our territorial claim of Danteri. In such, our territory of Danteri will not be subjected to our income tax. Thus promoting more freedoms. Also, all terrorists or freedom fighters within the area. I'm sorry for our previous actions within your country. Please, discontinue your hostile actions towards our military. As you can see, Dephire detests slavery. All of Undershi's slaves are free to live the lives they had been taken away from.

As I said. All citizens of Danteri within the territorial claim of Dephire are subject to live as if nothing ever happened as long as they acknowledge that Dephire is their territorial claimest, and Alexander is their Emperor. Other than that, nothing else will be done to restrict the Danteri people of their rights or business. Thank you."
Haraki
17-09-2006, 23:41
"This has nothing to do with territory, or power. It has to do with the welfare of Danterians. The reason Haraki originally stepped into this conflict was to ease the suffering of Danterians, and we did so. We have proved without a doubt that the most functional and comfortable area in Danteri is the Haraki safe zone, because we have foregone armed conflict in exchange for rebuilding, to improve the life of the Danterians. You, on the other hand, entered this theatre after the original conflict was long gone, with a forcible invasion of a fellow nation's land followed by a civil war fought in part in Danteri, which cost the lives of many. The only reason you feel you have the right to speak of territory and power is because you, through a series of wars of conquest, have wrested control of much of Danteri from those who have left it unattended. And now you speak of freedom? The only people that should decide the future of Danteri are Danterians. In the proposed Harakian rebuilding method, in fifteen months Danteri would be completely controlled by Danterians, with foreign aid only if requested. What you propose is the annexation of your area of Danteri. You said it yourself, that it would be absorbed into Dephire.

"You speak of freedoms, while in your country there are none. Your bullshit political message reads that you will do nothing to take away the rights of Danterians once they are a part of your nation. But your very own citizens have no rights. No elections. No civil liberties. Being subject to Dephirian civil law, as you so succinctly put it, is no more than a glorified form of slavery. You point to Dephire hating slavery, whereas in my studies of your nation I have seen no forms of proof of this and no evidence that Danterians will live a better life than cattle, or food for the first draft you need to fight an aggressive war. Were I to allow the citizens of Danteri to fall under the sway of the Industrialistic Empire, I would be neglecting my purpose in this mission as I did when the Zukariaans took over. No more.

"And do not speak to me of power. Only two days ago you were poised for an invasion of Harakian territory. When you saw that you were in over your head, you hastily withdrew and pulled out a 'Can't we all be friends?' message. And now you speak to me of power and territory? I do not care about your power and territory.

"The only nations I have seen evidence from to prove they are worthy of organizing the reunification of Danteri are those in the Harakian coalition. In short, I refuse to accept Dephirian rule over Danteri. And since you so nicely asked, and I quote, 'Please, discontinue your hostile actions towards our military,' I will offer you the same politeness once. Please, withdraw from Danteri now. Please, do not make me threaten the use of force or any more awkward and potentially harmful forms of diplomacy. Please, do not make me cause any more loss of life. Your move.'

Felias Locke
Dephire
18-09-2006, 00:27
"You must believe me when I tell you this. I have been trying, for several weeks now, to improve my nation. But it's the political issues that are keeping that from me."
Dephire
18-09-2006, 00:37
"Also. Correct me if I am wrong, but it was Vega who attacked. Alexander would of never allowed such an assault. Also, it was not a military conquest more so than just an occupancy."
Haraki
18-09-2006, 01:14
OOC: Everything I just said, as well as everything below, was and is IC. As such, I'd appreciate an IC response, not an OOC response explaining why your nation is the way it is or an explanation of what happened. If my character got something wrong or said something you disagree with, it was because my character got something wrong or said something you disagree with, not because I did.

Believe me, I understand the confines of the NS page on your nation. That doesn't change anything about this RP.






"I note that your response addresses only two facets of the overall message. And I do not care about your intentions or the words and doublespeak you use to hide your motives and true mission. You are attempting to annex a nation that does not belong to you and make it part of your empire. Whether you call it an occupation or an invasion or a conquest or a police action or an intervention does not matter to me or to anyone else, and which piece of your nation caused whatever does not either. I do not care whether Alexander or Vega or Sata Claus authorized what or how often, the fact of the matter is that it happened anyway. My message from before remains the same, as does the same ending ultimatum and, for now, the continuing politeness. If you wish to continue diplomacy, please refrain from insulting my intelligence with meaningless and trite statements ignoring most of what I have said. I have given you a chance. Now I have given you a second one to attempt to resolve this diplomatically. If I do not receive a proper response, I shall assume you do not care about diplomacy. Ignoring my message does not make it any less true.'

Felias Locke
Dephire
18-09-2006, 01:46
"Your offer intrigues me, but I must say this. Dephire is to recieve absolutely nothing for it's long struggles withing this war? Threatening us is not going to end well. As we have stated, and should be apparent to you, Dephire is not aggressing. Threatening us is an act of hostility which will NOT be taken lightly. Do stop trying to threaten the Dephirian people.

Now. The fact of the matter is that we are trying to help benefit the Danteri people. To what extent will the Danterians do to help themselves? With their entire country in near ruins, they will have no economic aid. Hell, no one will even consider trading with them! Dephire wishes to make the lands of which are under territorial claims a part of not just Dephire, but GASN and ADAN alike! Think of the substantial economic boost Danteri would recieve!

Furthermore, you are blaming all of Dephire for a mistake that Vega imposed? How is that justifiable?

All I had wished for was to make North Danteri a territory of Dephire. They can have their own political government, but would stay as a part of Dephire. This is the equivelant to what Puerto Rico is to the United States.

Now I ask you. Stand down!"
[NS]Zukariaa
18-09-2006, 04:41
OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE HIGH COMMANDER
http://www.maj.com/gallery/Zukariaa/Maps/zuakariaanflagimmortal2.png
TO:The Dephirian Government and the Haraki Coalition
FROM:The High Commander, Henry Corrol

That is enough! An entire generation has seen nothing but war, has been under foreign rule, been destroyed, been slaughtered! Stop trying to keep the land you have under your control; it isn't yours.

Now, this may seem hypocritical to anyone who has seen us in war, or who was here for the things we did to this country, but this war needs to end. Even we can see when enough is enough. The people of Danteri must know peace once again. They need their homes back. They need what they once so valiantly fought for to return to them.

Do you know what this war began for? Because the people of Danteri did not like the leadership that ruled them. Although Zukariaa did and still would rather see the Loyalist government to return, it is up to the people now. Millions have died in this country, and millions more will die if you keep trying to oppose Haraki. What they are doing must be done. It should have been done long ago.

While we would normally let something like this go, we have found a deep respect for the Danteri people. Myself and all surviving Danteri Civil War veterans are sorry for the things we did here, and would like to see the land that we have never seen peaceful become just that.

So, why don't you just stop?

And if it is okay with the Haraki Coalition, we think it is time we paid our debt to the Danteri people. We may never bring back those we killed, and the land we destroyed, but we are willing to give $1 trillion Kaisermarks. It is a large portion of our budget, but it is something we must give.

We are also willing to supply food, water, and equipment to restore the land of Danteri.

Again, it is time we gave our apologies to the people of Danteri.

Signed, The High Commander
Haraki
18-09-2006, 05:10
OOC: What I would like to do is leave this matter up to Danteri himself. I originally started the reunification movement today because I feel this RP's time has passed. I believe its usefulness is over and done with, and so I believe the best thing to do, in terms of OOC and RP etiquette and honour, is to reunite the country and hand the reigns of power over to Danterians, so, in effect, this RP can come to a clean end and Danteri can have his country back. Honestly, I would like to end it here and now. I'd love to hear a resounding yes from everybody involved and then just have a sort of epilogue that says 'eighteen months later everything's back on track' so we can all get on with it. By this point I feel we're just beating a dead horse over and over again.

So I'm going to leave this up to Danteri. If, and this is a big if, you (Danteri) would rather have your country torn apart and have this RP go on forever, with us all going "OOC: What now?" and trying to think up contrived plot hooks we've already done in this RP, then say so and I'll resume my standard role, with maybe some extra warmongering with Dephire and see just what will come of it. Not that 'It's fine with me if this happens', but an active desire for this RP to carry on the way it's been.

If, on the other hand, you would rather see your country put back together and this RP come to an end, please say so, and I hope everybody here will respect that. Honestly, it's what I'd like to see.

This has been an all OOC post. An IC response will come pending a response by Danteri (Or if something drastically changes between now and when Danteri posts).
Antigr
18-09-2006, 17:59
I think we should stay here,but more as police than soldiers.
Dephire
18-09-2006, 20:43
OOC:

Well if you must know, Dephire has been siphoning their military away from other conflicts to begin what's known as a Defensive Structuring of Danteri. This was just in case Haraki thought about using their military to kick Dephire out, which really isn't going to do a damn bit of good. It would make everything worse.

Also, I don't know who it was, but they have asked if they can come in and assist.
Neue Neue Deutschland
18-09-2006, 22:11
OOC: I guess I agree with Haraki - this RP is just about dead. If Danteri agrees, we'll do a pull-out and set up an independant Danteri.
Antigr
19-09-2006, 16:11
I don't think this thread is dead.Not if von Friedburg and her gang stepped in? ;)
Western Danteri
19-09-2006, 20:06
OOC: Maybe... but that's for the reconstruction thread. As it is now, von Freiburg's militia is clashing with the Peacekeepers... how about a "closing event" - anyone up for "The Hunt for Sara von Freiburg"? (But once she's delt with, then I'd agree - this RP will be over.)
Dephire
19-09-2006, 20:18
Did you check out my Telegram to you?
Western Danteri
19-09-2006, 20:37
OOC: Yes, I did - and I TGed you right back. It's all in the TG...
Dephire
19-09-2006, 21:28
Replied.
[NS]Zukariaa
20-09-2006, 00:02
OOC-I myself think that killing off Freiburg would be pretty sad. She is the last main character from pre-conference Danteri. :O

But oh well. :p
Okielahoma
20-09-2006, 01:31
OOC: Nooooo dont kill von Frieburg!!! Kruger and all them are dead, shes the only original character left!
Dephire
20-09-2006, 02:26
OOC:
Well. I'm still not leaving.
Undershi
20-09-2006, 17:20
OOC: Then this could get ugly... I mean, the RP can't really end with you owning 85% of Danteri.
Antigr
20-09-2006, 18:10
Dephire is still a threat even with our truce
(only 'cos he owns 85% of Danteri)
Okielahoma
20-09-2006, 18:19
I say we hold a new conference to discuss all of this further. I can host it in the Oklahoman capital of Lexington.
Haraki
20-09-2006, 20:47
OOC: Come on, Dephire. There's very little to be gained from keeping Danteri IC, and OOC it will most likely get you in a bunch of people's bad books. This RP is over. It deserves a proper finish so Danteri can go back to controlling Danteri. We've made a bunch of good points, both IC and OOC, about why this RP should end with the unification of Danteri, and you've responded by not responding to any of them and just saying 'Well, I'm staying'. In my opinion, that's just being obstinate and inconsiderate to everyone involved.
Okielahoma
21-09-2006, 00:18
I agree with Haraki. This RP has run it's course, and it was great in the middle when i was New-lexington, but got way too complicated at the end.
Dephire
21-09-2006, 12:15
Fine. I will give control back to Danteri, but it will still be occupied.
Antigr
21-09-2006, 18:04
I think this RP is not over.I admit it will be over eventually,but i think we should give von Friedburg a chance to show her head.Then the grand finale is von Friedburg gets killed and it ends.But it doesn't need to yet.
Okielahoma
21-09-2006, 18:47
No its over Antigr.
Dephire
21-09-2006, 20:15
How about this thread is over, but a new thread is created.

Storyline:

Two months after the Danteri Civil War came to a halt, Danteri started to regain it's former self. This was restricted by the ever increasing number of Dephirian Military that still continued to arrogantly occupy North Danteri. Yet with these Dephirians, other portions sparkled with utter brilliance. Slowly, the radiation still present in Danteri City began to go away.

There was something that kept Danteri from becomin a Whole, however. This was the not only the Occupation that Dephire still laid upon North Danteri, but it was one person. No, this person was not Alexander. This person was Sara. Sara von Freiburg, a known terrorist by some and a freedom fighter by many. -Snippet-

How about it?
Dephire
21-09-2006, 20:16
F*** the Duck.

Yeah! That's so right on! Oklahoma would of won that game hadn't the officials F***ed up!

BTW, read my post on the last page at the bottom...
Okielahoma
21-09-2006, 20:21
Its been soo long.. what side was Friedburg on in the beginning?
Dephire
21-09-2006, 20:38
Its been soo long.. what side was Friedburg on in the beginning?

I don't remember, but I still feel as if I got jipped.

IC:

"The People of Dephire will turn down the opportunity to back down. We will continue to occupy North Danteri. If any nation wishes us to cease our actions, you will be turned down politely and may bring shame to us. A Demilitarised Zone will be erected if needed to separate the two, but the Dephirians think it not necessary for it will disrupt our trade. North Danteri will still be controlled by Danteri on lower-leveled political situations, but Alexander will be the highest political and Military official. This is our final decision. Good bye."
[NS]Zukariaa
21-09-2006, 21:39
OOC-Acting like this is already over is pretty stupid, really. There is still much to finish, and we have yet to hear anything IC from Danteri on the subject. Give it awhile. Frieburg is still out there.


OFFICIAL MESSAGE FROM THE HIGH COMMANDER
TO: Dephire
FROM: The High Commander, Henry Corrol

I've been polite so far. Now, I wont to be. I'll be blunt:

Get the fuck out of Danteri.
Both Zukariaans and Danterians alike went through too much to see this conflict come to an end with Danteri in the hands of your people. Get out. We will side with whoever attempts to drive you out, regardless of the GASN.
Signed, The High Commander
Pantera
21-09-2006, 22:23
Panteran Satellite News!

Upon advice from his generals and Lords, the Lord Reaver has ordered a limited mobilization across Pantera. Initial reports have been sketchy, but it appears that his Reavers will be bringing to active service only enough men and supply as to match and check the forces of Dephire and those aligned behind said nation of fools. Due to Pantera's immense size and wealth, this is only a part of the overall Reaver might that could be brought to bear.

In a statement by fax, the Lord Reaver was quoted as declaring officially,"The Danteri hunger for peace, and only the machinations of the black-hearted thugs that call themselves leaders in Dephire stand in the way of reconstruction and prosperity. Our brave allies in Haraki have done what they might to ensure proper speed in this process, only to be checked by the stupidity and blindness of the dogs of Dephire.

This is at it's end. As of now the activation of the Panteran Expeditionary Force has been ordered. Limited mobilization will follow as required, and soon the might of the Reaver War Machine will be awakened.

Let this serve as a warning to those with their fingers dipped into the pot of Danteri. Remove those fingers and all forces, or they will be removed. Interim control of the nation of Danteri will be handed over to a tri-regency of some sort, whole and without remark from the Dephirans.. This regency will hold, in trust, executive power until such a time as proper Danterian government can be formed with the consent of the people.

Do not fuck with us. Your time in Danteri is at it's end. If you persist in your Danterian endeavor, not only will you lose face in that nation, but we will take steps to end forever your meddling in affairs abroad.

Diplomacy has failed, now comes the sword. There will be no further discussion in your quest to delay the inevitable. Leave now, with all haste, or prepare to be annihilated.
--------------------------
Dayne the Evenstar
Lord Reaver of Pantera
Drag the Waters of War"

{OOC: Let's put the chips on the table. If Dephire's final decision is to stay, despite protests from my ally, my final decision is above. Call.

Also, since this thread has swollen to epic proportions, if it does come to combat, I suggest another thread to leave this one for the return of Frieburg and all other political jive.}
Okielahoma
21-09-2006, 22:24
IC: We shall continue to occupy the western archipelago of Danteri. These islands have a native Danteri population of under 3000. About 15000 Oklahoman citizens live in these islands. We shall continue to live ther in peace. Thank you.
Empereor Adam West
Haraki
21-09-2006, 22:50
In conjunction with the limited mobilization across Pantera, the Harakian parliament passed a new bill authorizing the use of military force in the reunification of Danteri and to ensure a smooth transition to a Danterian-led government. Over the hour after this bill was passed, a new bill was proposed, written and passsed authorizing a massive expansion of troops present in Danteri and authorizing small-scale mobilization of standing forces. As yet no reserves have been called up, but several professional divisions previously on 24-hour standby have now been called up for active service and will be sent to Danteri together with a new Harakian fleet following up a large expansion of the air units present in Danteri, which includes the rest of the 1st Advanced Bomber Wing and the entire 17th Strike Fighter Wing, for a total of 204 new heavy bombers, escort fighters, multirole fighters, air superiority fighters and interceptors.

Being sent in from the ground are the rest of the 8th Airborne Division, the rest of the 3rd Infantry Division, the 11th and 112th Infantry Divsions, and the 5th Armoured Division, bringing the total Harakian divisions deployed to Danteri to 15. Arriving together with these new forces will be what has been designated the Far Southern Fleet. It is a combination of the naval forces already deployed to Haraki together with new forces, focused around the carrier HNS Robinson, and two Cain-class nuclear supercarriers, the Hydra and Somnus. Other capital ships include the Zodiac-class battlecruisers Aries, Gemini and Cancer, and the battleships Arkia, Caltis, and the newly-deployed Firzha-class superbattleship Chimera making its maiden voyage. The new forces will be commanded by Admiral Steven Tyrell, who will be taking over command in the Danterian theatre. General Adam Shartz will be assuming command of the ground forces.


Together with this massed deployment, a final ultimatum has been sent to the Dephirian forces in Danteri. Bypassing the government, it has been sent directly to the commanding officer.



[From: Rear-Admiral Felias Locke]
[To: Commanding Officer, Dephirian Forces, Danteri]

Listen to me. This is your last chance.

All cards are on the table. If you do not back down and withdraw from Danteri, you will be invaded and many of your men will die. The forces arrayed against you are larger, better-equipped, and better trained than you, not to mention the various threats arrayed by other nations, either publically or privately, directly against you. If you do not back down, demobilize your forces, and allow Harakian and Panteran troops to take command of all territory currently under your control, there will be a lot of fighting, and a lot of people will die. A lot of people under your command. Look inside yourself. You know you cannot win this fight. You will lose, and a lot of lives will have been lost in vain. Find your own humanity, and spare a lot of lives.

This is, to be honest, your last chance. I hope you will choose the peaceful path, for all our sakes.

Felias Locke






OOC: All cards on the table. Dephire, we will invade you if you do not back down, and we're not the only ones. Just to name those from this thread, Zukariaa has voiced their public help for anyone fighting you, and I've received messages from others that I'll keep secret for the time being because I'm not sure if they wanted you to know or not. That is that.
Okielahoma
21-09-2006, 22:58
We have pledged our support agiants Dephire before and we shall do it agian. Dephire i Stand by Haraki. You must leave Danteri. My nation may be small but along with Haraki and Zuukaria we can pack a lethal punch. The choice is yours.
Emperor Adam West
Automagfreek
21-09-2006, 23:53
Though Dreadfire was busy storming the trenches of the Five Kingdoms, he was briefed periodically about internal and external matters concerning the Empire. Then the named was uttered; Dephire. Word has reached Damien's ears that their leadership remained belligerent despite the numerous warngings from Gholgoth authority....as well as himself.

This was something one did not just do and expect to live. Dreadfire would now make it perfectly clear what the cost of non-compliance would be, and within hours he ordered the fleets of Vidimir Brethstealer to mobilize. He was the hero of the Kraven Wars, the man who defied the odds and destroyed the formidable Citadel Wall before plunging into the heart of Kravonika. He was a nobody before the war, but elevated into a near legend after his brave struggle in spite of the horrific biological agents unleashed by the Corporation.

There would be no further warning or instruction from Dreadfire himself. Vidimir's fleets had been activated for defensive purposes in the weeks past, since all of the high level Warchiefs were off storming Arda. It did not take long for his ships to begin slipping from port in large fists, their rallying point being the outer rims of AMF's maritime boundary. Their destination was near indesputible...and their intent even more so.

Encrypted message to Gholgoth forces:

My fleets have been dispatched per the orders of Lord Damien Dreadfire. By his decree I am to enter Danteri waters and advance into Dephire occupied territory, and if their forces have not vacated then they will be engaged. The Warlord will allow them one final chance to leave before I arrive, and if they don't....there will be blood. No more words, no more politicking. Gholgoth does not repeat its orders to anyone or give second chances to those who ignore said orders.

Your fleets may rally on me, or dispatch to other locations across Danteri (which I would suggest). My guess is that it will be 3 days before my ships enter occupied waters, which is plenty of time for Dephire to heed our final warning.

Stand strong my brothers, the Corpse God watches eagerly. One way or another, Danteri will be free, and Gholgoth will be the shining beacon of freedom to those who are oppressed and killed by the Dephirian heathens.

http://img8.exs.cx/img8/3324/9b-warchief1.jpg
Vidimir Breathstealer
-Warchief of AMF Forces-
Dephire
22-09-2006, 12:22
To: Haraki Forces
From: Jonathan Vega (Former Second-in-command of Dephire)

"Before you invade, I will like to ask you something. What are we to do with any Danteri people? Should we ship them out? We don't want them harmed, because what purpose would it be to occupy a territory if the territory isn't populated? I'm sorry that everyone does not agree with what my commanders have said. Please, I beg of you, turn away from this past of hostility. Let us come to a compromise. Please. Alexander doesn't understand our new goal. Peace. He just wants more land to use as a place to build military plants and bases. Yes, he does care for the people inside. Really, he does. What he was trying to do was make North Danteri an example of some radical changes now coming into effect. Give this Territorial Claim a chance. If no improvements are brought to the table, then attack."

--Vega leans in closely to the microphone as the officers watching him left.--

"Alexander has gone mad with power. In secret, he's called for assistance from: Pudu, Parthia, GASN, ADAN, CA, and several other nations/alliances. Use this information to your advantage. Yes, several months back I attacked the northwestern shores of Danteri. I've since then changed after being defeated at Dephire's Secret ICBM Base known as the Megalith Complex. Please, I ask you again, do not go into hostile action against Dephire. This is not good for anyone. Alexander needs to be punished, but invading would only rouse an utter and massive counter which could lead to nuclear war if no one is careful."

--He is now down to a whisper.--

"I must go before they..."

"What the hell have you been saying?!"

"I've said nothing!"

"Vega, we recorded your message. You have betrayed Dephire once again! How could you? Now you are subject to Execution!"

"Even in my death, Dephirian Scum-bag, My friends will come and return Dephire to it's former glory!"

"You make me laugh, Separist! The old ways are gone! With Yuri at Alexander's side, Communism and World Domination will come!"

______________________________________________________________________________________________

To: Haraki Forces
From: Alexander Himself

"If you become hostile towards my forces, then I will counter. Let's see who these Danteri's are loyal to when you do attack! They will see through your mask and they will know your true intentions, Danteri under your control. You don't wish to unify! You wish to dominate all of Danteri! Go ahead and Attack! For it will be the last damn thing you ever do! Soon enough, a massive counter attack will send you running!"


OOC:
What I'm aiming for now is that Dephire has split. Vega, now the protaganist (Good guy) is trying to make Dephire more Democratic and a better nation. Alexander, with Yuri at his side, is now the Antagonist (bad guy.) Alexander wouldn't be the bad guy if Yuri was taken out. The story behind this Yuri is a long one, but all you need to know is that Vega has become Good and Alexander has become unwillingly evil.

More elaboration on myself:

ICly Alexander wishes to keep Danteri under his control. OOCly, I don't care for Danteri and it should go back to its original owner. I'm not really a bad person, I just want to push some more plots into the mix. We need to finish up the Sara von Feiburg stuff really quick. This is so that Haraki can finally kick Alexander's ass and put Vega in charge. By puting Vega in charge would bring to the table greatness. Oh! I'm finally getting the issues I've always wanted. Check it out! Even though they are not as great as I wish them to be, I am still trying to get them to 'Excelent' status.
Okielahoma
22-09-2006, 15:14
Western Archipelago, New-Okielahoma
"General you have yet another visitor."
"Show him in"
"Actually sir..."
"Come on come on bring him in"
"Yessir"
A figure emerged in the light, and General Leaphart stared in awe
"Is that..." He gasped.
"Quiet General" said the voice...
The Transylvania
22-09-2006, 23:17
A message to the crazy leader of Dephire: How would you like your civilians, used as slaves or my blood supply? The choice is yours. Back down and leave Danteri or face the wraith of Gholgoth. ~ The Man in Black, not Johnny Cash, but the Count

A message to Warchief Vidimir:

My bombers will be ready to help in this invasion of Dephire occupied territory of Danteri. I will give your transports a landing spot on the coast. The bombers will blow the living Hell out of everything five miles of it. A nice big place for you land.

My soldiers, which are preparing now, will on their way to Dephire. Three or four days untill they arrive.

Nobody mess with us and thinks they can get away with it. This lousy nation of Dephire will paid for what it has done.

Signed,
Count JWolf
The God-Emperor of the Dominion.

OOC: Dephire, you know the Shah of Parthia. Well he and the Count are friends. So he will not help you unless he wants the Count mad at him.
The Black Hand of Nod
22-09-2006, 23:35
-Montauk-
Slavik: "Yuri won't win this time, I'll make sure of it. The elite forces are holding. correct?"
Oxanna: "We've aquired a civilian transport but we're trying to get a valid transponder code.
Slavik:"Begin hacking operations." "Get them cleared!"
Hacking Dephiran Air traffic control## Transponder code: 0####
-Boeing 707-
"Alright people, this is our chance to shine."
"We know Yuri is somewhere near their leader, if we can't find him, Alexander will do just as well."
Western Danteri
23-09-2006, 04:49
The terrorists, part of Sara von Freiburg's forces, launched their attack against the Dephirans as the sun rose over the muddy, shell cratered, hell that was what Danteri had become.
It was almost ironic - Danteri had no really valuable resources, and never had... although its western portion was even more of a blasted wasteland than its eastern half, thanks to the lengthy time it had spent under Kravenite occupation.
The attacks were fairly simple, designed more to elicit a response than to actually damage - a few mortars opened fire on Dephiran bases, lobbing just two or three shells a piece before withdrawing... leaving behind IEDs along the roads, and curiously high quality Command Detonated Mines near the firing sites.
Other than that pattern of attacks, the rebels did little - merely a few snipers, taking shots at Dephirans, then withdrawing into the mud and the hills, vanishing with almost no trace...
The message of these attacks is clear - for now, Sara von Freiburg and her militia are concentrating their efforts on disrupting the Dephirans, as opposed to any of the other nations currently present in Danteri.
Antigr
23-09-2006, 14:18
IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO ALL OTHER NATIONS

Thanks to the sudden re-activation of Harakian and other military forces,i am now re-upgrading the ADEF situation from 'Peace-enforcers' to 'war forces',and,by the look of the terrorists,i may upgrade it to 'critical',which means that any unauthorised vehicles or personnel coming within 5 kilometres of ADEF forces will be destroyed,and that ADEF is pulling back into a very very VERY tight defensive circle yet again.In the wake of this terrorist threat,i am creating a special battle group tasked with anti-terrorist operations alongside their 5-star standard combat abilities.It'll be called the AMATG (Antigran Military Anti-Terrorist Group).It will consist of a number of men amounting 1 division,including support staff.
Haraki
23-09-2006, 14:57
[From: Admiral Steven Tyrell]
[To: Alexander of Dephire]

Big talk for one who is arrayed against Gholgoth. I would almost admire it, if I didn't know what you were actually like. If the Danterians hate us so much, why are they attacking you? Your arguments make no sense, your logic is far from infallible, and your bravado is foolhardy. My predecessors gave you three chances. That is not my style. I would have given you one.

Steven Tyrell




[From: Admiral Steven Tyrell]
[To: All Gholgothian leaders]

I am going to make only one request of you before this whole thing starts. Try not to kill Danterians. After everything else happens, the goal of this is to help out Danterians, and I'd much prefer it if we weren't being shot at for the next fifteen months while we rebuild and recreate the place.

Kill, maim, make an example of any Dephirians you must, but plese try to avoid loss of Danterian life.

That is all. Good luck and good hunting.

Steven Tyrell





As the convoy of ships docked into Haraki's Danterian port, the five divisions unloaded and were rushed to the front. General Adam Shartz disembarked the transport, taking one last whiff of the sea air before stepping down and towards the jep adorned with four stars that awaited him. Shartz was known throughout the Harakian military as one of the hardest, toughest generals in it. Not in person, but in action with other forces. It was a strange connection to make: This man, with his lazily half-lidded eyes, green army bag over his shoulder, and half-smile on his face, was almost a legend. The driver of the jeep whistled softly under his breath, and as all around him troops shouted orders and loaded into ground transports to be rushed to the front, Shartz was calm, cool and collected. In the background, the massive HNS Hydra supercarrier loomed in the distance, towering over all other ships in the harbour, a flight of planes circling over it slowly for air protection.

Inside the jeep, Major-General Gregory Neil stood up to shake Shartz' hand. Shartz shouted over the din, "You Greg?"

Neil just nodded. "Get in, sir!"

Shartz climbed in and the jeep roared to life, backing up quickly into a two point turn and pulling away, taking Shartz towards the Harakian headquarters, hidden down in a sturdy underground bunker. "What's the plan, sir?" Neil asked him in a normal voice once they had gotten away. Shartz just grinned slyly.

"I've got my ideas. Steve's given me a set of orders for the ground that I am going to absolutely love carrying out. Send out an order for absolutely all Harakian airplanes to be on standby. If the shit hits the fan, I want one round of strikes in five minutes, another in ten, and carrying on every ten minutes after that. We're going to bomb them into the dirt, Greg."

"Sir, are you sure about this? I mean, Dephire has offered to use nuclear weapons against us."

Shartz actually leaned his head back and laughed out loud, letting it ring out through the landscape they were roaring past. He composed himself after a short time and turned his head back towards Neil. "General Greg, if Dephire chooses to use nuclear missiles against us or any other member of Gholgoth, what do you think will happen to them, especially if used on a civilian target? I'll give you a clue. First we, and by we I mean Gholgothian forces in general, will kill every Dephirian in Danteri. Once we're done with that, we'll go into Dephire itself, execute all the leaders, rape and pillage the country, burn it to the ground, enslave the population, and then once they've served their purpose throw them all back in Dephire and launch a round of nukes at it until it's nothing but a puddle of glass. Not to mention a healthy supply of Dephirians to feed the Count, preferably their leaders. At least, that's how I like to imagine it."

Neil's eyes were wide. He was an idealist, and what he had heard did not sound like war to him.

"That's why I laughed, Greg," Shartz said, both as a conclusion and as a way to comfort the other man, placing his hand on Neil's shoulder. "If Dephire is stupid enough to use nuclear weapons on any one of us, they're stupid enough not to realize the consequences."

Neil was calmed slightly, but still on edge. His superior had looked so ... gleeful while describing what he would do to Dephire, and it made Neil nervous. He was not sure he would enjoy working for a man like this.
Dephire
23-09-2006, 18:14
OOC:
I'm just wondering...You are in fact attacking Alexander's Loyalist Forces and not the Vegan Separists that are going to help free North Danteri, right? Because that is what I was aiming for you to do. Attack Alexander's forces to help get Vega in control. From there Vega will give North Danteri back to Danteri and he will pull the Dephirians away from militaristic status in Danteri all together.

IC:

Three cloaked figures hid outside of the triple-max security prison just outside of Sarajevo, a city in Dephire. They shooed away as a small black box beeped. Three seconds passed quickly, and a large explosion ripped apart the wall. The figures ran inside and began to execute several of the guards before reaching the enterance door. They entered just as the alarms went off. More gunfire sounded throughout the complex. Eventually the figures entered a computer room.

"Open all Security Doors, Schavik."

One figure entered the command. In a matter of moments, the entire security system shut down and a loud 'Clang' rang through the complex as all of the doors opened in unison. The figures left the room with a guard lying dead on the floor. Swiftly and carefully the three went onward towards their next goal, the security vault cell room in which their objective was kept in.

"B33-1...B34-2...B35-3...Ah here we are, B36-4! Diam, open this door."

A spark from the torch from which was in Diam's hand began to melt through the solid steel of the door. Something made a noise, and Diam fell to the floor panting. The other two figures gunned down a guard that just so happened to have stumbled onto them.

"Are you okay, Diam?"

"Yeah..knicked my shoulder, but I'm fine."

Diam sat up and finished what he was working on. They lowered the door to the ground and looked into the room. A set of eyes stared through some bars.

"Is that you Vega?"

"Dominique? Get me out of here! We need to stop this war in Danteri!"
Haraki
24-09-2006, 00:44
Go here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11722707#post11722707)

New thread for the new war.
Antigr
24-09-2006, 11:18
I have gas and nuclear weaponry if anyone tries to attack me.Due to dephire and haraki at each other's throats,the ADEF situation is now 'critical'.anyone unauthorised within 5km of ADEF forces will be destroyed.This means you shall need my permission to come within 5km of me,or you will be totally and utterly annihalated
Undershi
28-09-2006, 17:12
OOC: Just to clarify, the Undershis weren't crucifying the three guys we promised not to hurt - they're fine. We're attacking, and crucifying any POWs we take from, the rebels. Meaning, the guys who don't obey your government. OK?
Antigr
28-09-2006, 17:30
Theres a new thread called 'A generation's struggles'.Please switch to it
Okielahoma
28-09-2006, 20:05
Theres a new thread called 'A generation's struggles'.Please switch to it
OOC: Really now?
Dephire
28-09-2006, 20:07
OOC: Really now?

OOC:
Yes really. And I would also suggest anyone who is not fully informed to read the last few posts...
Okielahoma
28-09-2006, 21:30
OOC:
Yes really. And I would also suggest anyone who is not fully informed to read the last few posts...
You fail to find the sarcasm in my voice...
Dephire
28-09-2006, 21:35
You fail to find the sarcasm in my voice...

But this is typed! No voices!
Okielahoma
28-09-2006, 21:52
But this is typed! No voices!
:p Whatever:rolleyes:
Antigr
29-09-2006, 15:58
:) *Laughs*
Montegrande
02-10-2006, 12:30
Now there is a closed new thread, can I return to the action (after a long time out) with my commies (which are now I guess democratic socialists, but still militaristic)?
Antigr
02-10-2006, 19:41
*shrugs*
Haraki
02-10-2006, 20:04
Uh ... before you do anything, you should probably read the entire new thread. It's entirely likely you would be entirely unwelcome in Danteri now. However, just now there's something else going on in that thread too, which, I dunno, you might be welcome in.

Be warned though, Danteri is an unfriendly place to foreigners now.
Western Danteri
03-10-2006, 01:40
OOC: Indeed. Right now, the Undershi are gone, the Dephirans are going... and so is Okielahoma/New Lexington/Lexington SC... wonder why he's gone through so many nations...
Okielahoma
03-10-2006, 02:02
OOC: Indeed. Right now, the Undershi are gone, the Dephirans are going... and so is Okielahoma/New Lexington/Lexington SC... wonder why he's gone through so many nations...
OOC
New-Lexington DEAT'ed
Lexington SC-tired of Lex name
Okie-new and shiny!
We are going also
Dephire
03-10-2006, 20:38
OOC: Indeed. Right now, the Undershi are gone, the Dephirans are going... and so is Okielahoma/New Lexington/Lexington SC... wonder why he's gone through so many nations...

Danteri, was that TG regarding my request for permission to build bases to help benefit the Danterian people?
The Transylvania
03-10-2006, 21:13
Danteri, was that TG regarding my request for permission to build bases to help benefit the Danterian people?

Check out the post in the DC board.
Dephire
03-10-2006, 21:36
Check out the post in the DC board.

I did. So now I'm, once again, being oppressed by the Gholgoths.
The Transylvania
03-10-2006, 21:48
I did. So now I'm, once again, being oppressed by the Gholgoths.

No only by me. Go back to the day you joined the DC, what did I tell you? Something about be watched for some months before you will be classified as an member of the DC. You’re a member as long as you stay out of Danteri.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11740326&postcount=6

And I told the rest in Gholgoth that I would keep you out.
Western Danteri
04-10-2006, 17:18
OOC: Check my TG response.
Dephire
05-10-2006, 20:38
Grr, we need to get Danteri's government in order because this whole thing blows! :D
Antigr
06-10-2006, 19:58
Too right.Hey dephire,now i'm in that allaince you're in,the one run by the transylvania.Forgot the name.
The Transylvania
06-10-2006, 21:28
Too right.Hey dephire,now i'm in that allaince you're in,the one run by the transylvania.Forgot the name.

The Dominion Commonwealth!!! *Evil laughing*
The Transylvania
06-10-2006, 21:30
Too right.Hey dephire,now i'm in that allaince you're in,the one run by the transylvania.Forgot the name.

The Dominion Commonwealth!!! *Evil laughing*
Antigr
07-10-2006, 12:09
Yeah.
Western Danteri
17-10-2006, 17:47
OOC: Ummm... so, are we going to skip forward fifteen months now, or not, since Okielahoma just showed up again?