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What is the official descion on LD?

Suggested change to WCC:

A list of the most active RPers(As decided by TnUI) is created and at the end of each WC these nations vote on who they belive should be on the WCC. The (amount to be defined by TnUI) nations with the most votes will be in the WCC.

This will help nations such as myself, who has no chance of hosting with nations such as Spaam on the WCC who will not vote for my hosting bid no matter what.

LD hasn't been banned. I refused his entry post because he was acting like a two year old. If he enters like a normal person then he will go on the list. It is then up to GZ and ORD to decide if he is allowed in.

Aaarrrggghhh! Where's the love people!?

I think the RP bonus should be as it is. Not much, but at least it is a little measure to help keep these non-rping newbies out. Or even better.... give like, 2 or 3 points for every decent RP you do, up to a max of 20. Which would really help people like ORD. Who I want to see go well. In fact, I think that is a brilliant idea :D

As for kicking out newbies, well, I think the rule is, if this is their first WC, and they don't RP at ALL, then they have no chance of qualifying. Apart from that, anything goes. LD is a different case, because he's so friggin' annoying, but when it comes down to it, I couldn't care less. And its not really anything to do with me in the first place.

Hey TBF, let me explain something to you. The WCC doesn't vote AGAINST anybody. We all get one vote, to go to the host(s) of choice. And frankly, the closest you ever got to hosting, was with Erri, and we luckily managed to change Erri's mind on that. The same thing is going to happen with the WCC. You won't get on.

Now for your actual idea, well, it might be an idea.... the current WCC come up with a short list of like 20 nations, and those 20 nations the vote for the best 5-10 nations to be on the WCC or something. Whatever, it has merit, but at the same time, the current system is working fine. Why? Because all we vote for is who's going to host the cup, which has only failed once ( :oops: ), and the main decisions are going to come down to TnUI and Lemmy, which is fantastic by me.

The End. :P

Possible people to ask to co-host WC11

Halfassedstates
Akbarland
Dennisov
Timway
Rejistania

What do you think, who do you thik would be a good choice

Disclaimer: I have not asked any of the nations to host with me and they they are not to feel any pressure to put in a bid with me if they do not wish to

EDIT 1: Snub removed
EDIT 2: Rejistania added

A list of the most active RPers(As decided by TnUI) is created and at the end of each WC these nations vote on who they belive should be on the WCC. The (amount to be defined by TnUI) nations with the most votes will be in the WCC.

I'd like to see Snub on the WCC, maybe he will put in a hosting bid sometime...

So, what do we think about my WCC idea?

So, what do we think about my WCC idea?

Hmmm, I don't want the WCC getting too bloated, would this mean the hosts would no long become members?

"'Soothesayer! The Ides of March have come.'
'Ay, Caesar, but not gone.'"

Personally, I feel that the WCC is fine as it is.

If we _must_ change it, I think that the members should be appointed by TnUI, not by the masses.

Possible people to ask to co-host WC11

Halfassedstates
Akbarland
Dennisov
Timway
Rejistania

What do you think, who do you thik would be a good choice

Disclaimer: I have not asked any of the nations to host with me and they they are not to feel any pressure to put in a bid with me if they do not wish to

EDIT 1: Snub removed
EDIT 2: Rejistania added

*looks puzzled* You remember my FHWC hosting? I don't know if it would be rated as success, since there were some flaws, more or less random times for the results and the Voyger incident.

BTW: TAG

So, what do we think about my WCC idea?

Keen to get on the WCC, are you?

Just in case nobody noticed the first time... :P

I'm still willing to co-host WC11 with just about anybody who wants to. ;)

*looks puzzled* You remember my FHWC hosting? I don't know if it would be rated as success, since there were some flaws, more or less random times for the results and the Voyger incident.


I'd say it would. You did a fine job.

Back to the RP topic, which I feel strongly about, even though I have 8 papers to go. I believe there are other students in the NSWC, who struggle between NSWC commitment and, basically, studying. This is not a problem during, say, the holidays, or off-peak seasons when there is not much homework, say in the middle of April. However, and I think this has affected the WC, WC in peak seasons, such as exam periods (May and October/November in my case) tend to have less RPs from certain nations, maybe even newbies, which might explain some of the problem here. The problem is worse for established nations like mine. We know that we cannot RP much, but we still have to participate to keep a high ranking. Like ORD said, we have real lives to lead. I suggest that we can gather a thread on exam periods of some of the countries in the NSWC and not have a WC in that period. I don't think we can have much deviation from mid-year and end-year. I'm hoping that when I return from my exams, that we can play around with this idea or come up with a more pragmatic solution to the problem.

Maybe just have a thread set up for people who have exams. If you sign up, matches that you are involved in won't have the RP bonus apply (or it can be reduced). If you don't sign up and don't post, then too bad. It only takes a couple seconds to post when you have exams and such, and it will ease the worrying a bit.

1. TnUI-Yes hosts could be booted off the WCC if the votes were agains them.

2. Reji-Yes your hosting was great, that's why I added you to my list.

3. I repeat. Who do you think I would stand the best chance with?

1. TnUI-Yes hosts could be booted off the WCC if the votes were agains them.

2. Reji-Yes your hosting was great, that's why I added you to my list.

3. I repeat. Who do you think I would stand the best chance with?

3. By general consensus, no one. You bids always fail.

Back to the RP topic, which I feel strongly about, even though I have 8 papers to go. I believe there are other students in the NSWC, who struggle between NSWC commitment and, basically, studying. This is not a problem during, say, the holidays, or off-peak seasons when there is not much homework, say in the middle of April. However, and I think this has affected the WC, WC in peak seasons, such as exam periods (May and October/November in my case) tend to have less RPs from certain nations, maybe even newbies, which might explain some of the problem here. The problem is worse for established nations like mine. We know that we cannot RP much, but we still have to participate to keep a high ranking. Like ORD said, we have real lives to lead. I suggest that we can gather a thread on exam periods of some of the countries in the NSWC and not have a WC in that period. I don't think we can have much deviation from mid-year and end-year. I'm hoping that when I return from my exams, that we can play around with this idea or come up with a more pragmatic solution to the problem.

I think that's a very good idea, although nt everyone will be on US schedules. Since you & ORD both mentioned this, and have been picked as the next hosts, is the currrent timing going to make it possible for you to host OK?

The (quite) old republic of Dennisov is willing to look into the possibility to convert some of the icerinks, both inside and outside, into football venues. This would mean that this nation which once won the WorldCup as an outsider will be eligable as a host.

Now as Dennisov is located in some obscure timezone (also known as GMT+1) this might pose some problems.

The hope is that this news is welcomed with some sort of enthusiasm. Whether selection would result in becoming member or not is irrelevant. The views that active participants would be asked to become member rather than previous host nations, sounds more logical and agreeable to this non-member nation.

The active participants have the most to gain and lose if a host nation proves to be inadequate.

The (quite) old republic of Dennisov is willing to look into the possibility to convert some of the icerinks, both inside and outside, into football venues. This would mean that this nation which once won the WorldCup as an outsider will be eligable as a host.

Now as Dennisov is located in some obscure timezone (also known as GMT+1) this might pose some problems.

The hope is that this news is welcomed with some sort of enthusiasm. Whether selection would result in becoming member or not is irrelevant. The views that active participants would be asked to become member rather than previous host nations, sounds more logical and agreeable to this non-member nation.

The active participants have the most to gain and lose if a host nation proves to be inadequate.

:o OMFG are you FRENCH???

.....or irish?

.....or on an oil rig?

....or in south-africa?

I'd just like to lend support to Aud's rant in the WC10 sign-up thread. Someone (Beidstan maybe) suggested, wisely, that in a nation's first WC, there be no RP standard held against them. Many of us RPed very little or not at all in our first Cup. For many who have become active participants, we didn't even know how many players take the field when we first signed up. It just looked like something fun to participate in.

Now, one could argue convincingly that the WC has changed quite a bit since those days. RPing is much, much more active, and the Cup is much better organized, than it once was. But I still think that anyone joining the Cup for the first time should get one opportunity to watch how things work without actively participating.

Furthermore, everyone has things come up which prevent them RPing from time to time. I don't think that any sort of ongoing requirment during a WC, such as, "You must RP one of every two or three matches" is realistic or fair. More fair would be a requirement that a certain number fo RPs have been made by each team by tourney's end.

No one should be kicked out for failing to meet the RP requirement for one Cup. If someone fails to meet the RP requirement for two consecutive Cups, banishment (with possibility of reinstatement) seems appropriate.

So here's a proposal:

1. There is a bonus for each match RPed, during qualifying and during the tournament. The bonus is reset at the start of the tournament so that a team can't build up a big bonus in qualifying and then coast through.

2. Each nation is expected to post 5 RPs during the course of the Cup, from Qualifying through to the end. This puts a little more pressure on teams that fail to qualify; but just because you're out of the tournament doesn't mean you have to stop posting (see Gilmeecia in 8 ).

3. If a nation fails to meet the 5 RP requirement for two consecutive Cups, they are banned.

4. Banned nations may apply to the WCC for reinstatement. Reinstatement would be considered on a case-by-case basis; if someone gave a plausible argument that they were ready to start RPing again, they'd be allowed back in.

Now, why ban nations at all? There is a valid argument, as made by Audioslavia, that the WC is for fun and the active RPer shouldn't be enforcing an elitism by kicking others out.

However, there is one strong argument for removing both puppets and non-RPers, and that is simply that every slot in the tournament filled with a non-RPer prevents some other active RPer from qualifying. TB said, "If you're not going to RP, why sign up?", and this is a good question. If you just enjoy reading the posts and don't want to write them, fine; you can lurk in the thread without entering a team.

It's not as if there's any requirement regarding the format or content of RPs (beyond, perhaps, a minimal length requirement). They don't have to be creative or interesting to earn the bonus. And no one's ever been criticized by any respectable nation for posting "sub-par" RPs (note that the Lanky Dude controversy was over a. smilies and b. whether TBF was writing LD's posts).

Finally, i'd like to point out again that I would not propose any kind of permanent ban. I think that any banned nation should be able to re-join by petitioning the WCC. The WCC members are mostly a reasonable group; I think they (we) can be trusted to be fair in such a matter.

So those are my thoughts.

TBF will be puting in a hosting bid with..... Rejistania.

We apoligise to the other nations which we have not chosen.

Rejistania confirms!

We apologise that Rejistania was chosen.

We apologise that Rejistania was chosen. *???*

We apologise that Rejistania was chosen. *???*
Nah, just ingnore Spaam, always at my throat...

[code:1:3d72a4d8f0]Top 30 P W D L GF GA GD Pts
Liverpool England (1) 14 11 1 2 28 10 18 34
Gilmeecia (17) 14 11 0 3 25 13 12 33
Runaway Moose (6) 14 10 2 2 30 15 15 32
The Belmore Family (13) 14 9 3 2 24 11 13 30
Halfassedstates (13) 14 9 3 2 23 12 11 30
Bedistan (3) 14 9 3 2 21 13 8 30
Kaze Progressa (59) 14 9 2 3 21 13 8 29
Giant Zucchini (11) 14 8 4 2 22 10 12 28
Haraki (2) 14 8 4 2 30 19 11 28
Busby (8) 14 8 4 2 27 16 11 28
Lemmitania (12) 14 8 4 2 26 15 11 28
Dennisov (22) 14 9 1 4 19 8 11 28
Commerce Heights (23) 14 9 1 4 26 19 7 28
Oglethorpia (10) 14 8 3 3 33 20 13 27
Gesamtkuntswerk (20) 14 8 3 3 27 14 13 27
Tanah Burung (39) 14 8 3 3 20 13 7 27
Oddslavo (7) 14 7 5 2 23 12 11 26
Total n Utter Insanity (49) 14 8 2 4 21 11 11 26
Kingsford (28) 14 8 2 4 24 15 9 26
Squornshelous (25) 14 7 4 3 29 15 14 25
Ariddia (19) 14 7 4 3 17 9 8 25
Audioslavia (18) 14 7 3 4 17 10 7 24
Snub Nose 38 (20) 14 6 6 2 21 15 6 24
Svecia (16) 14 7 3 4 17 11 6 24
Aquilla (36) 14 6 5 3 20 12 8 23
Nikea (44) 14 6 5 3 25 19 6 23
West Arridia (69) 14 7 2 5 22 20 2 23
Dark Outcasts (33) 14 6 5 3 16 14 2 23
Errinundera (15) 14 6 4 4 19 13 6 22
Spaam (24) 14 6 5 3 16 13 3 23 [placed at bottom after auto-matic qualification due to withdrawal of East Spaam]

Hosts
Europa Brittania (4)
Ravenspire (9)
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Odds for winning in Belmore's bookies
Liverpool England 5-1
Gilmeecia 3-2
Runaway Moose 6-1
The Belmore Family Was evens until all betting shops closed bets on TBF.
Halfassed 3-1
Bedi 7-1
KP 29-1
GZ 5-1
Haraki 3-1
Busby 9-1
Lemmitania 8-1
Dennisov 4-1
CH 8-1
Oggle 5-1
Gesamt.... 9-1
TB 4-1
Oddslavo 7-1
TnUI 500,000,000,000,000-1 This can be done due to the dislike of TnUI amoungst our citizens.(We know no-one will bet on them)
Kingsford 5-1
Squorn... 7-1
Arridia 12-1
AS 25-1
SN 38 5-1
Svecia 7-1
Aquilla 3-1
Nikea 4-1
West Arridia 20-1
Dark Outcasts 7-1
Errinundera 6-1
One Red Dot (a bit contraversial) 5-1

Mike DeWine, ABK Governor of all things Banned, has recieved word of the Belmorian betting odds for World Cup 9. However, Kingsford has a 5-1 shot, according to those bookies.

Just a few hours ago, DeWine also received word that Belmorian bookies have entered Kingsford, trying to tap our market. Therefore, the following will take action:

The Bookies will not be able to continue their business. (Law 34-AGR 'Gambling Prohibition')

The Bookies will be deported from Kingsford and into the Gallivian Sea, 50 miles from the Kingsford Coast. (Law 66-NCR 'Deportation Standards for Law Violators from The Belmore Family)

The Bookies remaining in Belmore will change their odds for Kingsford to 4-1 (Law 43-VVD 'Mandatory International Gambling Peer Pressure') due to the example made from the bookies that entered Kingsford.

The Bookies remaining in Belmore will change their odds for Kingsford to 4-1 (Law 43-VVD 'Mandatory International Gambling Peer Pressure') due to the example made from the bookies that entered Kingsford.

HaHaHaHaHaHa

No.

The President of the International Hunting Association, has declared
that Belmorians are fair game, and that Belmore Hunting Season is
now open. Millions of hunters are flocking into TBF to hunt these
annoying creatures.

The President of the International Hunting Association, has declared
that Belmorians are fair game, and that Belmore Hunting Season is
now open. Millions of hunters are flocking into TBF to hunt these
annoying creatures.
New law immediatly passed

Hunting is strictly forbidden in The Belmorian Counties of The Belmore Family

The President of the International Hunting Association, has declared
that Belmorians are fair game, and that Belmore Hunting Season is
now open. Millions of hunters are flocking into TBF to hunt these
annoying creatures.
New law immediatly passed

Hunting is strictly forbidden in The Belmorian Counties of The Belmore Family

Only by TBF. But the International Hunting Association foes not
recognise TBF. So there is no problem. And you could try to arrest us,
but we'll just shoot you :)

Back to the RP topic, which I feel strongly about, even though I have 8 papers to go. I believe there are other students in the NSWC, who struggle between NSWC commitment and, basically, studying. This is not a problem during, say, the holidays, or off-peak seasons when there is not much homework, say in the middle of April. However, and I think this has affected the WC, WC in peak seasons, such as exam periods (May and October/November in my case) tend to have less RPs from certain nations, maybe even newbies, which might explain some of the problem here. The problem is worse for established nations like mine. We know that we cannot RP much, but we still have to participate to keep a high ranking. Like ORD said, we have real lives to lead. I suggest that we can gather a thread on exam periods of some of the countries in the NSWC and not have a WC in that period. I don't think we can have much deviation from mid-year and end-year. I'm hoping that when I return from my exams, that we can play around with this idea or come up with a more pragmatic solution to the problem.

I think that's a very good idea, although nt everyone will be on US schedules. Since you & ORD both mentioned this, and have been picked as the next hosts, is the currrent timing going to make it possible for you to host OK?

Good point. My big exam periods are January and May/June... and with mock exams in December, WC11 hosting might be a bit dodgy for me...

Oh, and TBF's odds on TnuI are tempting.

The President of the International Hunting Association, has declared
that Belmorians are fair game, and that Belmore Hunting Season is
now open. Millions of hunters are flocking into TBF to hunt these
annoying creatures.
New law immediatly passed

Hunting is strictly forbidden in The Belmorian Counties of The Belmore Family

Only by TBF. But the International Hunting Association foes not
recognise TBF. So there is no problem. And you could try to arrest us,
but we'll just shoot you :)
Why so violent Spaam, why so violent. I think someone needs a hug... :(

The CHSA's (Commerce Heights Soccer Association) president has sent word to TBF that the organization is deeply offended by the fact that Aquilla supposedly has better odds of qualification than Commerce Heights. We believe this to be completely false, as Aquilla's qualificaton came down to the last match, whereas CH's qualification was secured on day 13.
We also question the ability of Aquilla to field a team in the World Cup, as our latest reports from Aquilla show that the majority of their population is in transit between Earth and Sirius D, and that the rest of them are supposedly on Sirius D (though the Baeticans have yet to confirm this for us). Since Aquilla has no non-radioactive land on Earth, we also question their ability to host other nations at their stadiums.

Is Spaam seriously going to be allowed to substitute the qualification of his puppet with his main nation?

I'm sorry, but that's pretty cheap -- having two chances to get into the Cup, subbing your puppet with your main nation.

Is Spaam seriously going to be allowed to substitute the qualification of his puppet with his main nation?

I'm sorry, but that's pretty cheap -- having two chances to get into the Cup, subbing your puppet with your main nation.

Go to hell Ogle.

Try reading the score thread.

I'm sorry i'm not omnipotent.

True, but you ARE omniscient :P

Just a few thoughts...

When I first created this Cup, I didn't intend to put any pressure on anyone. The idea was, you rp if that's what you like and that's your idea of fun - or, you just sit back and watch happens to your team.

I understand why some feel it's unfair rping teams should fail to qualify while non-rping teams do. But the idea behind the World Cup - as I believe someone pointed out - was purely to relax and have fun!

RP bonuses are fair enough, but I'd be against any kind of penalty - and certainly against banning! What's the point of the Cup if it's going to put pressure on people rather than just allow them to have fun? I can't help but feel we're losing focus a bit here...

Just my perspective...

I don't think the banning thing will come in, unless my odds are shortened :twisted:

hmmmm.....(now this was meant to be an interesting post but now isn't) - it had yo on the edge of your seats didn't it?

mmm...sunny south africa...how I wish....

actually it's not Ireland, nor France or an oil rig.
Plenty of choice left I'd say. :wink:

I've decided that puppets are just a pain in the neck, I'm sure most of you will agree with me. So I'm banning all puppets from the World Cup, but you can still make RPs with them. If GZ and ORD want puppets in WC10 however, they can have them. I'd like them to get in contact with me, within the next week.

...via AIM or the NS Chatroom on IRC.

Just withdrawn 'Demonic Beings's' entry earlier, before seeing this post actually, i just don't have enough time to do 2 sets of RPs

I've decided that puppets are just a pain in the neck, I'm sure most of you will agree with me. So I'm banning all puppets from the World Cup, but you can still make RPs with them. If GZ and ORD want puppets in WC10 however, they can have them. I'd like them to get in contact with me, within the next week.


Yay, now I feel like people listen to me!

True, but you ARE omniscient :P

and an omnivore :)

I'm sorry i'm not omnipotent.

btw, that is the best thing i have ever read on these forums ever :D \o/

Good call on puppets. IRL, I'm moving house fairly soon, and RPing Jaurania as well as KP would've been tough on my timing systems.

Of course, things might change, especially if this means more non-RPing n00bs come in, instead of puppets of established RP nations. But for now, I support this idea. Whether it's a great idea or just a kneejerk reaction to Spaamgate remains to be seen.

Whether it's a great idea or just a kneejerk reaction to Spaamgate remains to be seen.

Kneejerk, but we will see how it pans out.

Isn't it lovely. AS and I have never played each other, at least I don't think we have, and we have a hatred far greater than between anyone else. *feels all warm and fuzzy*

OOC: Would a kind WCC member be willing to forward a copy of the latest spreadsheet match generator to me? The Cup of Harmony will be going ahead soon and I need the spreadsheet to generate the scores for it. Please telegram me if you're willing to forward it to me and we'll work out the details. Cheers,

WW

Cup of Harmony (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92216)

I'm gonna RP Gilmeecia out of international competition. I'll post to the 10 signup thread.

I'm gonna RP Gilmeecia out of international competition. I'll post to the 10 signup thread.

Hmmm...The FIT/CoH thing looks like it's gonna become a regular thing. Maybe puppets could be allowed there?

Isn't it lovely. AS and I have never played each other, at least I don't think we have, and we have a hatred far greater than between anyone else. *feels all warm and fuzzy*

i know :) it is a triumph of human emotion is it not?

*cough*

i think the only reason we dont play each other is because im usually competing in the World Cup, and youre always in those tournaments for Flops/Also-rans

p.s. i dont hate you, i just find you really easy to poke fun out of, ya inbred lancashirian git :P i think the only reason we started beating each other over the head with insults is because you put me on an enemies list, because i took the piss out of your formulas :lol:

oh the good old days.... when Brazilico was king, TnUI were a superpower and LE was just a glint in beelzebub's eye...

I've decided that puppets are just a pain in the neck, I'm sure most of you will agree with me. So I'm banning all puppets from the World Cup, but you can still make RPs with them. If GZ and ORD want puppets in WC10 however, they can have them. I'd like them to get in contact with me, within the next week.

Just a quick note... I've got a plane to catch. TnUI, it's not your call to make. It'll be up to the hosts of each game.

Just a quick note... I've got a plane to catch. TnUI, it's not your call to make. It'll be up to the hosts of each game.

*points at TnUI*

"you just got told oooffffff la la la la laaaa la"

;)

I've decided that puppets are just a pain in the neck, I'm sure most of you will agree with me. So I'm banning all puppets from the World Cup, but you can still make RPs with them. If GZ and ORD want puppets in WC10 however, they can have them. I'd like them to get in contact with me, within the next week.

Just a quick note... I've got a plane to catch. TnUI, it's not your call to make. It'll be up to the hosts of each game.
Naughty Naughty TnUI

World Cup 11:
Liverpool England officially withdraws its bid to co-host with TnUI, and officially announce a new bid: Gesamtkuntswerk and Liverpool England will renew their WCX bid for WCXI. You heard it right, "King and Kaiser" are back with ANOTHER bid! Puppets will probably be allowed, but only max 2 nations/person, and that'll be for only the first 10 who decide they want their puppets in, since for WCX they're banned. [Darn, Oddslavo are gonna lose their World Ranking]

Seeing as there will be a new ranking system, no, they won't....

Seeing as there will be a new ranking system, no, they won't....
How will the ranking system work?

Actually, puppets are allowed in WCX. We do need to hit at least 82 participants. (92 preferred).

(3 more papers!)

Seeing as there will be a new ranking system, no, they won't....
How will the ranking system work?

its gonna go in alphabetical order \o/

*shoots aquilla, arridia and alhana catherine just for good measure*

*and akbarland, wherever they are*

*shoots Audioslavia*

HAH! :P

I'm going to kind of "free associate" here, so please don't anybody get bent. (I'm an old guy, we don't like to use "pissed" directly, so we use euphamisms). There is NO intent to insult, chastise, point fingers, or otherwise denegrate anyone in this post.

On puppets - kind of ambivalent. If Lemmy really kills of Gilmeecia, we will all be the losers - that's just one example, there are some really good puppets. Personnaly, I like SAM from East Spaam, too. Then there are some really annoying puppets who just take up space and don't do anything - my opinion (opinion...) is these puppets are taking up a slot someone interesting could fill. I guess I really feel the same way about puppets as any nation - please, either take part (RP at least once in a while) or stay out so someone who will take part can get in.

On banning puppets - Initially thought it a good idea. Back in WC3 or WC4 when I first asked for a place for RM to be "held", someone (doesn't matter who, and I really don't remember) accused me of trying to enter a puppet and said it wasn't allowed. So, kneejerk that I am, all along I've kind of been annoyed at all puppets. But, when I started considering some of the puppets who would be banned - I don't wanna lose 'em. Go figure.

On banning nations who don't RP - tough call. I think letting them slide for one WC is a good idea. I also think - hey, if you don't want to participate, get out and let someone who does want to participate get in. Quantity and Quality of RPs - many of you won't like this - I think we leave that alone. We've got a wide variety of ages playing, and that is a GOOD thing. If we start making value judgements on RPs, we're going to shove some promising people out instead of giving them an opportunity to get better.

On the nature of WCC and WCs - It's a game. It's actually a game about a game. We're all making believe a bunch of stuff about football/soccer teams that don't exist. I really like it, but let's not lose site of the fact that it's all "let's pretend", and not take it too seriously. As several have already said, it's supposed to be fun. When it stops being fun for someone, we've made a mistake.

(side note on "the nature blah, blah, blah") It's okay to have fierce and vicsious rivalries - as long as BOTH sides understand that it's a game, and all the insults, jabs, complaints, and all are PART OF THE RPing. If they're NOT part of the RPing - they don't belong here.

On who should constitute the WCC - I stick with those who host. They've shown the kind of commitment necessary to organize, run, referee, and play at the same time. They EARNED the right to take part in decision making. The rest of us have earned the right to make suggestions, float ideas, and follow the rules the WCC establishes.

On selection of hosts - WCC. period.

Gotta go now. Margaret just told me to get off my soap box and shut up.

I totally agree SN 38.

I'm going to kind of "free associate" here, so please don't anybody get bent. (I'm an old guy, we don't like to use "pissed" directly, so we use euphamisms). There is NO intent to insult, chastise, point fingers, or otherwise denegrate anyone in this post.

On puppets - kind of ambivalent. If Lemmy really kills of Gilmeecia, we will all be the losers - that's just one example, there are some really good puppets. Personnaly, I like SAM from East Spaam, too. Then there are some really annoying puppets who just take up space and don't do anything - my opinion (opinion...) is these puppets are taking up a slot someone interesting could fill. I guess I really feel the same way about puppets as any nation - please, either take part (RP at least once in a while) or stay out so someone who will take part can get in.

On banning puppets - Initially thought it a good idea. Back in WC3 or WC4 when I first asked for a place for RM to be "held", someone (doesn't matter who, and I really don't remember) accused me of trying to enter a puppet and said it wasn't allowed. So, kneejerk that I am, all along I've kind of been annoyed at all puppets. But, when I started considering some of the puppets who would be banned - I don't wanna lose 'em. Go figure.

On banning nations who don't RP - tough call. I think letting them slide for one WC is a good idea. I also think - hey, if you don't want to participate, get out and let someone who does want to participate get in. Quantity and Quality of RPs - many of you won't like this - I think we leave that alone. We've got a wide variety of ages playing, and that is a GOOD thing. If we start making value judgements on RPs, we're going to shove some promising people out instead of giving them an opportunity to get better.

On the nature of WCC and WCs - It's a game. It's actually a game about a game. We're all making believe a bunch of stuff about football/soccer teams that don't exist. I really like it, but let's not lose site of the fact that it's all "let's pretend", and not take it too seriously. As several have already said, it's supposed to be fun. When it stops being fun for someone, we've made a mistake.

(side note on "the nature blah, blah, blah") It's okay to have fierce and vicsious rivalries - as long as BOTH sides understand that it's a game, and all the insults, jabs, complaints, and all are PART OF THE RPing. If they're NOT part of the RPing - they don't belong here.

On who should constitute the WCC - I stick with those who host. They've shown the kind of commitment necessary to organize, run, referee, and play at the same time. They EARNED the right to take part in decision making. The rest of us have earned the right to make suggestions, float ideas, and follow the rules the WCC establishes.

On selection of hosts - WCC. period.

Gotta go now. Margaret just told me to get off my soap box and shut up.

*claps*

give or take the odd long word that i dont understand, thats how i feel. im completely against banning anyone under any circumstances tho, no matter HOW annoying they are.

Audio: Long words tossed in to put people off the scent.

starting to read
starting to get annoyed
hmmm...wonder what that means
reads on
begins to fume
er...what?
reads on

(if i can't find the right long word, i make one up)

Audio: Long words tossed in to put people off the scent.

starting to read
starting to get annoyed
hmmm...wonder what that means
reads on
begins to fume
er...what?
reads on



funny, thats my train of thought when im reading a Mr. Men book....

ROFL Audioslavia :D

I think that SN38 has some great points. My suggestion with puppets is that we enter them into a separate competition (the Colonial World Cup? :p)

And while I never used to think it, SN38 is right on quality/quantity of RPs. We can RP it as 'differences in communication technologies' :D

Just a quick note... I've got a plane to catch. TnUI, it's not your call to make. It'll be up to the hosts of each game.

Hmmm, I think right now a good idea would be to resign and not bother with the World Cup anymore. Half of you want it left, half of you want it right, when I put it left I get complained at, when I put it right I get complained at, and when I put it in the middle no-one is happy.

Just a quick note... I've got a plane to catch. TnUI, it's not your call to make. It'll be up to the hosts of each game.

Hmmm, I think right now a good idea would be to resign and not bother with the World Cup anymore. Half of you want it left, half of you want it right, when I put it left I get complained at, when I put it right I get complained at, and when I put it in the middle no-one is happy.

qua?

complained about what? you know full well that the hosts decide some of the irrelevancies of the cup, but the WCC decide the important stuff *cough*whichiswhereyoucomein*cough*

with regards to the puppets stuff, i think that goes under 'hosts decision'

I'm just ranting, its the lack of sleep and having to deal with idiots...

So is it okay if I secretly enter 20 puppets into the next World Cup?

As long, as you RP properly or at least be not that annoying as LD or FT were.

I'm just ranting, its the lack of sleep and having to deal with idiots...

So is it okay if I secretly enter 20 puppets in the next World Cup?

im sure the 20 puppets would complain, and to be honest mass-puppet-rape is against the morals of the world cup :) :lol:

[/carry on humour]

anyway, if you want to 'secretly enter' (:lol:) some puppets in the next cup, go ahead, if you feel that it proves your point.

dude, your the boss

*tags*

Well apparently there aren't any RP rules; so I can just enter puppets and not RP with them.

I know, that there are no rules, but since puppets will be unranked and then won't have RP bonus, the problem will be solved without interferance during quali.

Possible puppets
Ogglethorpia-Audioslavia
Liverpool England-Spaam
Total n Utter Insanity-Bedistan

The Belmore Family - God Squad

The Belmore Family - God Squad
No, not quite.

Possible puppets
Ogglethorpia-Audioslavia
Liverpool England-Spaam
Total n Utter Insanity-Bedistan

*watches a nuke from Spaam sail accross the night sky*

dude, that is the biggest insult to anyone ever. "you act like LE"

:P

i am oglethorpia tho its true..... *cough*

The Belmore Family - God Squad
No, not quite.

Much more likely than your three.

TnUI how come I am not at least in the powers section of the WCC site?

EDIT-Just noticced Powers is the lowest 1!

Well apparently there aren't any RP rules; so I can just enter puppets and not RP with them.

go ahead.

Well... well... maybe i'll run away from home! yeah! and THEn you'll be sorry! THEN i'll be able to stay up late and watch telly! yeah!

TnUI how come I am not at least in the superpower section of the WCC site?

you suck

LOL :D

BTW: if there's a vacancy available for WCC membership, KP will apply for it.

TnUI and Bedistan? Nope, not quite. What would be interesting, though, is Tanah Burung/Snub Nose 38.

:P

TnUI how come I am not at least in the superpower section of the WCC site?

you suck
Ahem 2-1, need I say more?

TnUI how come I am not at least in the powers section of the WCC site?

EDIT-Just noticced Powers is the lowest 1!

Because the list is from WC7.

TnUI how come I am not at least in the powers section of the WCC site?

EDIT-Just noticced Powers is the lowest 1!

Because the list is from WC7.
Oh. I would update it but i'm not on the WCC, however if I did become WC11 host....

TnUI how come I am not at least in the superpower section of the WCC site?

you suck
Ahem 2-1, need I say more?

and this makes you a superpower? beating someone whos never been past the second round? :P

i make no pretences about my position: audioslavia sucks ass :)

blah blah blah

*punch*

Note:
Powers
Snub Nose 38
Errinundera
Kingsford
Oglethorpia
Lunatic Goofballs
Squornshelous
Runaway Moose
Audioslavia
Dennisov
Dyelli Beybi
Gesamtkuntswerk
Haraki
One Red Dot
Ravenspire

Powers was just that you had played in a few and made it into the top 20 or something.

I know, that there are no rules, but since puppets will be unranked and then won't have RP bonus, the problem will be solved without interferance during quali.

Ah but their ranks would go up the next time I entered them.

Powers was just that you had played in a few and made it into the top 20 or something.
Oh.

I would be happy to update the site.....

some stuff which shows his complete lack of wit

*judy*

you know full well that the hosts decide some of the irrelevancies of the cup, but the WCC decide the important stuff *cough*whichiswhereyoucomein*cough*

I consider puppets to be "important stuff" don't you?

you know full well that the hosts decide some of the irrelevancies of the cup, but the WCC decide the important stuff *cough*whichiswhereyoucomein*cough*

I consider puppets to be "important stuff" don't you?
No, they are just another team.

Powers was just that you had played in a few and made it into the top 20 or something.
Oh.

I would be happy to update the site.....

Just the power superpowers uberpowers and classic teams?

Nobody loves me

There there it'll be alright :wink:

Powers was just that you had played in a few and made it into the top 20 or something.
Oh.

I would be happy to update the site.....

Just the power superpowers uberpowers and classic teams?
Anything really. Nothing else to do.

you know full well that the hosts decide some of the irrelevancies of the cup, but the WCC decide the important stuff *cough*whichiswhereyoucomein*cough*

I consider puppets to be "important stuff" don't you?

they never used to be until Spaamgate. Id rather not have any puppets in the world cup but its not a law which we can enforce without running to the mods anytime theres a rumour of a puppet lurking about.

I say we just ban all known puppets and ask people not to enter puppets. I dont see whats wrong with people entering puppets secretly though, theres no chance of doing a Spaam and pulling out one team for the benefit of another if you arent allowed to divulge which countries are your puppets and which arent.

You are trying to exaggerate a situation. Since there are till now not this much problems with puppets and some are really nice (I liked East Spaams RP and the RP of Eviscaretomatoes) I don't see, why we should construct a problem.

<h1>Will be sorted out in the New Year.</h1>
<h2>Überpowers</h2>
Ariddia<br>
Europa Brittania<br>
Quohog<br>
<h2>Superpowers</h2>
Lemmitania<br>
Tanah Burung<br>
Spaam<br>
Svecia<br>
Giant Zucchini<br>
Total n Utter Insanity<br>
Alasdair I Frosticus<br>
<h2>Powers</h2>
Snub Nose 38<br>
Errinundera<br>
Kingsford<br>
Oglethorpia<br>
Lunatic Goofballs<br>
Squornshelous<br>
Runaway Moose<br>
Audioslavia<br>
Dennisov<br>
Dyelli Beybi<br>
Gesamtkuntswerk<br>
Haraki<br>
One Red Dot<br>
Ravenspire<br>
<h2>Classic Teams</h2>
Brazillico<br>
Al Quds<br>
Communism and Vodka<br>
Crosshill<br>
Dead Man<br>
Der Angst<br>
Jurassica<br>
Steel Shadows<br>
Vegemite<br>

There you go, sort it out :wink:

theres no chance of doing a Spaam and pulling out one team for the benefit of another if you arent allowed to divulge which countries are your puppets and which arent.

Yes there is, but it doesn't matter, I just wanted to see if it was possible to do, and if it would benefit the Cup. It probably won't even happen.

I don't see, why we should construct a problem.

Something to do...

if anyone wants to sort out that uber/super/whatever list i can put it on the site if you like.

Yes there is, but it doesn't matter, I just wanted to see if it was possible to do, and if it would benefit the Cup. It probably won't even happen.

ok there is, but theyd have to be very very clever about it, and i dont think anyone here is very very clever :P

meh, fair enough.

I don't see, why we should construct a problem.

Something to do...Simply change the rules in a way, that no team can know it would profit if another team pulls out and we solved the Spaamgate problem in the next WCs.

We need a set of rules.

[the 8 best teams playing off for the place seems like the best way to go]

ok there is, but theyd have to be very very clever about it, and i dont think anyone here is very very clever :P

Lemmy? Oh wait he picked you as a partner...

We need a set of rules.

[the 8 best teams playing off for the place seems like the best way to go]

hmm, probably yeah.

ok there is, but theyd have to be very very clever about it, and i dont think anyone here is very very clever :P

Lemmy? Oh wait he picked you as a partner...

touche :P besides, i doubt lemmy would pull Gilmeecia out for Lemmitania, he'd just RP a lemmingbanana war which culminates in the death of Uri Gellar, the crushing on Zyon, the tickling of Andi Peters and the annexation of Gilmeecia into Lemmitania.

crazy crazy man :)

<html>
<head>
<title>Uberpowers, Superpowers, Powers</title>
<style>
h3 { background:silver; color:white; font-style:italic font-weight:bold; font-size:20pt }
</style>
</head>
<body>
<h3>Überpowers</h3><br>
Bedistan<br>
Europa Brittania<br>
Lemmitania<br>
Giant Zucchini<p>

<h3>Superpowers</h3><p>
Liverpool England<br>
Haraki<br>
Errinundera<br>
Timway<br>
Runaway Moose<br>
Ravenspire<br>
Oglethorpia<br>
The Belmore Family<br>
Halfassedstates<br>
Total n Utter Insanity<p>

<h3>Powers</h3>
Oddslavo<br>
Audioslavia<br>
Busby<br>
Arridia<br>
Snub Nose 38<br>
Kingsford<br>
Squornshelous<br>
One Red Dot<br>
Spaam<br>
Runaway Moose<br>
Dennisov<br>
Gilmeecia<br>
Gesamtkuntswerk<br>
Commerce Heights <p>

<h3>Classic Teams</h3>
Brazillico<br>
Al Quds<br>
Crosshill<br>
Jurassica<br>
Communism and Vodka<br>
Vegemite<br>
Dead Man<br>
Der Angst<br>
Steel Shadows<br>



How's that?

Why is Arridia so low and Bedistan so high? Apart from that it'll do.

how can someone ranked 49th, who is already out of the world cup after 2 games, be a superpower? :P

surely Nikea should be a superpower then, seing as the above applies to him but he's 44th :P

im just kidding, Germany were still a superpower despite *ahem* 'losing their way' before the world cup :)

Why is Arridia so low and Bedistan so high? Apart from that it'll do.
Bedistan-Never failed to qualify for a World Cup
Ardia-Ranked 20 something never got passed Quarter Finals.

Now can you see why I should host WC11?

I'm gonna leave the uberpowers as they are till I get a chance to look at the ranks.

Now can you see why I should host WC11?

not really :P but if the only other option is LE then your as good as in :)

Hmmm?


Bedistan - Never failed to qualify for a World Cup
Ardia [Ariddia] -Ranked 20 something never got passed Quarter Finals.



Ariddia, if I recall correctly, has never failed to qualify as well.

Theres a big Gap

Lemmitania
Bedistan
Liverpool England
Haraki
Errinundera
Timway
Runaway Moose
Ravenspire
Oglethorpia
The Belmore Family
Halfassedstates
Total n Utter Insanity
HERE
Giant Zucchini

When will M/D 3 be up? If I was hosting......

When will M/D 3 be up? If I was hosting......

Stop going on about it!!!! The next WC won't be starting for a while, so it doesn't matter if this one takes a little longer.

When will M/D 3 be up? If I was hosting......

ok enough with the hosting crap, tbh i keep voting for you (apart from WC10 where i voted for Erri and Spaam) so your at least getting the attention of the idiots of the NSWCC :)

When will M/D 3 be up? If I was hosting......

ok enough with the hosting crap, tbh i keep voting for you (apart from WC10 where i voted for Erri and Spaam) so your at least getting the attention of the idiots of the NSWCC :)
Thank You

When will M/D 3 be up? If I was hosting......

ok enough with the hosting crap, tbh i keep voting for you (apart from WC10 where i voted for Erri and Spaam) so your at least getting the attention of the idiots of the NSWCC :)

Ogle didn't vote for him...

When will M/D 3 be up? If I was hosting......

ok enough with the hosting crap, tbh i keep voting for you (apart from WC10 where i voted for Erri and Spaam) so your at least getting the attention of the idiots of the NSWCC :)

Ogle didn't vote for him...

i doubt ogle could qualify for being an idiot tbh :)

i doubt ogle could qualify for being an idiot tbh :)

True, but it never hurts to get a good ogle insult in, I've been depriving him of them.

Why is Arridia so low and Bedistan so high? Apart from that it'll do.
Bedistan-Never failed to qualify for a World Cup

True, but even I'd admit that my team probably isn't at Uberpower status. Not yet, at least. ;)

i doubt ogle could qualify for being an idiot tbh :)

True, but it never hurts to get a good ogle insult in, I've been depriving him of them.

*agrees with TnUI*

*feet go cold*

well, hell finally froze over :)

*agrees with TnUI*

That's twice we have agreed...I'm scared.

*agrees with TnUI*

That's twice we have agreed...I'm scared.

no it isnt

no it isnt

Yes it is!

Anyway...Should the hosts have complete control over the cup? This would mean them doing their own spreadsheet, their own tables - without errors, updating the site and doing the final rankings.

NSWCC site should be up to whoever made it.

Not all of us are well-versed in HTML.

Couldn't someone make a script for the update of the site?

Only problem with that is whoever made it has exams *cough*

Gah! I want to do more but exams suck and take up all my time....

Half the reason I dropped out was cos of exams (that and I was sulking :P)

NO TBF. If you have not made it into the top 4, then you are nothing but a power. I don't even know why Vegemite is a classic team though.... I'd never put it there, and it was one of my puppets ;)

Learn HTML all youse!

As for the puppets deal, personally, I think we should have a WCC vote. I'm quite happy to leave TnUI with most of the decisions, cos he does a fine job, but the puppet thing causes so much controversy that it should not be left to one person.

TBF, you will not be hosting WCXI. ~waits for karma to catch up~

Oh, and I dunno.... I'd vote for LE over TBF ;)

Ok, any more questions need answering?

And please don't ask for coherency :P

That'd be really difficult for whoever was tasked with the creation of such a script.

Unless some WC-nation participant was some IT wiz.

no it isnt

Yes it is!

Anyway...Should the hosts have complete control over the cup? This would mean them doing their own spreadsheet, their own tables - without errors, updating the site and doing the final rankings.

they should have the final say, and should be good enough to control everything, but its just as much the WCC's responsibility as the hosts to help with errors in the tables, with updating the site (something ive tried to do but dont know enough about spreadsheets/html to do) and with general help.

i dont think it should be the sole responsiblity of the current hosts for the upkeep on the NSWC website, that should be a team effort, but then again, i dont rate the upkeep of the site as very important. i think having the spreadsheets for all the world cups is good tho and should be updated regularly, just in case something happens to nationstates and we lose all the posts. or whatever.

Couldn't someone make a script for the update of the site?

Only if I change the host of the site.

And I am an IT whiz Ogle :P

Double post.

Well then, Mr. IT wiz, make a script to make updating the site unfathomably easy :wink:

Hmm, I made several scripts for the homepages I am developing (not at all professional), but they all require Linux.

no it isnt

Yes it is!

Anyway...Should the hosts have complete control over the cup? This would mean them doing their own spreadsheet, their own tables - without errors, updating the site and doing the final rankings.

they should have the final say, and should be good enough to control everything, but its just as much the WCC's responsibility as the hosts to help with errors in the tables, with updating the site (something ive tried to do but dont know enough about spreadsheets/html to do) and with general help.

i dont think it should be the sole responsiblity of the current hosts for the upkeep on the NSWC website, that should be a team effort, but then again, i dont rate the upkeep of the site as very important. i think having the spreadsheets for all the world cups is good tho and should be updated regularly, just in case something happens to nationstates and we lose all the posts. or whatever.

I'd kinda like someone to archive the threads.... whoever did that would be raised on a pedestal and worshipped ;)

But as for the spreadsheets and whatever, I have all the results before this cup. I'll be putting it into a nice format soon. Only dodgy part is WCI, but that was cos we never had all the results anyways.

Well then, Mr. IT wiz, make a script to make updating the site unfathomably easy :wink:

~slaps Ogle with a trout~

And Rejistania, all scripts require linux :P

But as for the spreadsheets and whatever, I have all the results before this cup. I'll be putting it into a nice format soon. Only dodgy part is WCI, but that was cos we never had all the results anyways.

yeah i was looking at them today, good job :)

~slaps Ogle with a trout~

And Rejistania, all scripts require linux :P
No, I still remeber doing incredible things with DOS-Batches. :)

~slaps Ogle with a trout~

And Rejistania, all scripts require linux :P
No, I still remeber doing incredible things with DOS-Batches. :)

~slaps Reji with a trout~

:P

i once made a program that could add up 2 numbers in basic :)

Which ranking system are we using for World Cup 10, the old, the new version of the old, or Spaams?

I'm kinda partial to Spaam's ranking idea myself...

I like it too, it's definitely coming in for WC11, but I'm not sure about WC10.

I've decided to add all the sporting events to the links in the first post.

Oh, and I dunno.... I'd vote for LE over TBF ;)

Surprise surprise.

Resons why Reji and I should be host of WC11-
1. Because we have both before hosted international sporting competitions
2. We are both active RPers and shown interest in the WC
3. BR 11 sounds kinda good
4. To prove Spaam wrong
5. Hosting rights
We will take it in turns to generate the scores.
First Round(6 days taken over this, telegram 1 day, reults posted the next)
Group A, C, E, G-The Belmore Family
Group B, D, F, H-Rejistania

TBF
Match 1:Winner Group A V Runner Up Group H
Match 2:Winner Group C V Runner Up Group F
Match 3:Winner Group E V Runner Up Group D
Match 4:Winner Group G V Runner Up Group B

Reji
Match 1:Winner Group B V Runner Up Group G
Match 2:Winner Group D V Runner Up Group E
Match 3:Winner Group F V Runner Up Group D
Match 4:Winner Group H V Runner Up Group A

TBF
Q1:Winner Match 1 V Winner Match 2
Q2:Winner Match 3 V Winner Match 4

Reji
Q3:Winner Match 5 V Winner Match 6
Q4:Winner Match 7 V Winner Match 8

TBF
S1:Winner Q1 V Winner Q2

Reji
S2:Winner Q3 V Winner Q4

TBF
Winner S1 V Winner S2

Reji
Looser S1 V Looser S2

Reasons why LE and Ges should be chosen for WCXI:
1. History: first time a bid has lasted two WCs and chosen
2. Both are active in RPing (except for my third game [W1-0 Busby] which I dont have time for)
3. Geographically close, makes travelling easier
4. Have settled: Hosting:
Group Stages: 4 Gps LE/4 Ges
Round 2: 4 Games LE/4 Ges
QFs: 3 Games LE/1 Ges
SFs: 1 LE/1 Ges
Final: Gesamtkuntswerk

Each other's scores will be done by the other person

5. TO PROVE SPAAM RIGHT!

If I recall, it was Tanah Burung started the whole idea of the Field Hockey World Cup.

If I recall, it was Tanah Burung started the whole idea of the Field Hockey World Cup.
Nope, sorry, it was me, he just hosted it first time around because I was to busy at the time.

Reasons why TnUI and WW should be chosen for WC11

1. We don't make silly lists.

Reasons why LE and Ges should be chosen for WCXI:
1. History: first time a bid has lasted two WCs and chosen
2. Both are active in RPing (except for my third game [W1-0 Busby] which I dont have time for)
3. Geographically close, makes travelling easier
4. Have settled: Hosting:
Group Stages: 4 Gps LE/4 Ges
Round 2: 4 Games LE/4 Ges
QFs: 3 Games LE/1 Ges
SFs: 1 LE/1 Ges
Final: Gesamtkuntswerk

Each other's scores will be done by the other person

5. TO PROVE SPAAM RIGHT!

6. Because TBF is even more annoying than LE ;)

Reasons why TnUI and WW should be chosen for WC11

1. We don't make silly lists.You do the lists on the front pages of threads...

Reasons why TnUI and WW should be chosen for WC11

1. We don't make silly lists.

2. C'mon, its Warnocks Wizards! They have like some of the coolest RP's ever!

Warnock Wizards and Nikea are some of the best new World Cup nations to have come our way, as far as RPing goes.

Why you should vote for TnUI,

Wrong topic.

EDITED to fit with Ogle's and TBF's posts.

^^ agreed. Those two are on top, and KP are in the next bunch of decent inexperienced RPers IMO. :D

Why should KP join TnuI (or any other willing nation) in WC11 hosting? We have experience of hosting big events through FHWC2 (in which we pioneered the 'falling rank' RP bonus that was used in modified form by Ravenspire this year). We also have ideas...

You are likely to be aware that several nations have faced RP problems due to RL (exams, most often). KP pioneer the following:

Ranks should increase for lack of RPing rather than decrease with RPing. That way, we don't get negative rankings which *may* mess up the formulae (Ravenspire would've used negative ranks for LE et al in qualifying, so maybe he can correct me on that). If there is no reason for non-RPing (as is the case with some of the n00bs) the ranking will increase by (number of matches not RPed)^2 (1,4,9,16...). If a reason is given in advance, the ranking will merely increase by the number of matches not RPed. If a reason is given later (as is the case very often) the RP penalty will obviously have had its full effect, often unfairly. In such a case, the ranking will return back to what it was before the missed matches.

Example: Nation A, a 150-ranked n00b, misses two RPs. Their rank goes up to 151 for the second match and 154 for the third. In their RP for the third, they apologise for missing the first two, owing to exams. Their rank goes back to 150 for the fourth match. They also warn us they will miss some more RPs due to these exams. They have a rank of 151 for the fifth, 152 for the sixth and 153 for the seventh. In their RP for the seventh, they say they'll be back. And they RP the eighth as well, thus keeping their ranking at 153. (and so on...)

Really weird and complex idea

Huh?

Really weird and complex idea

Huh?

Concuring, Huh?

Reasons why TnUI and WW should be chosen for WC11

1. We don't make silly lists.You do the lists on the front pages of threads...

Reasons why TnUI and WW should be chosen for WC11

1. We don't make silly lists.You do the lists on the front pages of threads...
This thread's lists are silly. QUIDDITCH WORLD CUP????!??? :wink:

The Quidditch World Cup is not silly. Bite me.

The Quidditch World Cup is not silly. Bite me.

*bites Spaam*
There, you happy?
I don't mean its silly, its just...
TnUI, this is a World Cup thread, not Quidditch/Hockey/Cricket!

I was thinking of turning it into a Sports Chat thread.

In that case, could be good to sticky it....

In that case, could be good to sticky it....

@TnUI: Then all discussion about Sports should be allowed, not only NS-wise.
Spaam: Not neccessarily, the mods I'm talking to ddont seem to think so.

In that case, could be good to sticky it....

Nope

@TnUI: Then all discussion about Sports should be allowed, not only NS-wise.

Nope, it's in the NS forum, therefore it's about NS sports. If you want all sports make a thread in General.

Really weird and complex idea

Huh?

ROFL :D The aim was to ensure that sides who don't RP are hit in rankings, unless they explain why not - but still giving a bit of an advantage to RPing nations, because that in turn means we're that bit more likely to have 32 RPing nations in the finals (which must be a primary ambition for us).

Or the best 32 RPing Nations could have a Cup after the World Cup finishes and we don't have to have an overly complex system.

Or the best 32 RPing Nations could have a Cup after the World Cup finishes and we don't have to have an overly complex system.
It's not that complex

Keep it simple, stupid.

Speaking of simple.... here are the (soon-to-be) official rankings, for after WC8, with all dead and old nations removed, the first including provisional, the second not. I'll be doing the rankings for just after WC9 qualifying soon.

[code:1:2e37580d3b]1 Haraki 1403
2 Liverpool England 1396
3 Svecia 1386
4 Errinundera 1361
4 Bedistan 1361
6 Runaway Moose 1356
7 Lemmitania 1320
7 Ariddia 1320
9 Squornshelous 1305
10 Timway 1296
11 Oglethorpia 1277
12 Halfassedstates 1274
13 Snub Nose 38 1273
14 Lunatic Goofballs 1270
15 Dark Outcasts 1266
16 Spaam 1264
17 Quohog 1263
18 Giant Zucchini 1254
19 The Belmore Family 1253
20 Busby 1244
21 Ravenspire 1240
22 Dennisov 1239
23 Oddslavo 1222
23 Kingsford 1222
25 Total n Utter Insanity 1221
26 Akbarland 1217
27 Pure Evil 1208
28 Tanah Burung 1204
29 Audioslavia 1187
30 One Red Dot 1173
31 Gesamtkuntswerk 1168
32 Europa Britannia 1161
32 Bullonien 1161
34 Pavesia 1158
35 Gilmeecia 1147
36 The Lowland Clans 1144
37 Antaeus Rising 1138
38 Aquilla 1127
39 Commerce Heights 1118
40 LordSquall 1090
41 Demonic Beings 1087
42 The Weegies 1084
43* Nonexistentcitygrad 1081
44* Keyshona 1077
44* Neolithica 1077
46 Sliponia 1076
47* Sycoes 1073
48* Agnosticium 1058
49* WNA 1054
50* BlackEagle Corporation 1053
51* South euroland 1051
52* The Dragonian Empire 1043
52 Rhaken Kull 1043
54 Dyelli Beybi 1041
54 God Squad 1041
56* Endray-Island 1036
57* DePaul 1030
58* 1900s Oglethorpia 1029
58* Ineptia 1029
60 Northern Kings 1028
61* Freedom Country 1027
62* Terranos 1022
63* East Spaam 1013
64 Australian Marsupials 1011
65* GnOoLoCoPeLep 1008
65 Kaze Progressa 1008
67* Warnocks Wizards 1007
67 Nikea 1007
69* Jangle Jangle Ridge 1006
70* Middleton 997
70 Mezitzia 997
72 Dead Man 996
72* Zeronia 996
74* Hell Bovines 992
74 Bardai 992
74* New Pavesia 992
77 West Ariddia 989
78* Grand master Mark 985
79* Jekonuam 984
80 Rave Shentavo 982
81* Zinkoland 981
82* Jadonopolos 977
83* Parthenon 976
84* Defari 975
85* Bizarro 971
86 Eauz 968
87* Nadaskor 964
88* Intergallactic Hell 950
89* Ribenia 940
90* Anti-Nazis 939
91* Nintendania 934
92* Trafari 932
93* Kerla 930
94 Alhana Catherine 927
95* Male 18 925
96* Katimarie 907
97* Yatsumica 885
98 Pablicosta 837[/code:1:2e37580d3b]


[code:1:2e37580d3b]1 Haraki 1403
2 Liverpool England 1396
3 Svecia 1386
4 Errinundera 1361
4 Bedistan 1361
6 Runaway Moose 1356
7 Lemmitania 1320
7 Ariddia 1320
9 Squornshelous 1305
10 Timway 1296
11 Oglethorpia 1277
12 Halfassedstates 1274
13 Snub Nose 38 1273
14 Lunatic Goofballs 1270
15 Dark Outcasts 1266
16 Spaam 1264
17 Quohog 1263
18 Giant Zucchini 1254
19 The Belmore Family 1253
20 Busby 1244
21 Ravenspire 1240
22 Dennisov 1239
23 Oddslavo 1222
23 Kingsford 1222
25 Total n Utter Insanity 1221
26 Akbarland 1217
27 Pure Evil 1208
28 Tanah Burung 1204
29 Audioslavia 1187
30 One Red Dot 1173
31 Gesamtkuntswerk 1168
32 Europa Britannia 1161
32 Bullonien 1161
34 Pavesia 1158
35 Gilmeecia 1147
36 The Lowland Clans 1144
37 Antaeus Rising 1138
38 Aquilla 1127
39 Commerce Heights 1118
40 LordSquall 1090
41 Demonic Beings 1087
42 The Weegies 1084
43 Sliponia 1076
44 Rhaken Kull 1043
45 Dyelli Beybi 1041
45 God Squad 1041
47 Northern Kings 1028
48 Australian Marsupials 1011
49 Kaze Progressa 1008
50 Nikea 1007
51 Mezitzia 997
52 Dead Man 996
53 Bardai 992
54 West Ariddia 989
55 Rave Shentavo 982
56 Eauz 968
57 Alhana Catherine 927
58 Pablicosta 837[/code:1:2e37580d3b]

Can someone tell me whether this is working or not please

http://80.1.30.193:8000/listen.pls

[code:1:0511407c6d]1 Liverpool England 1393
1 Lemmitania 1393
3 Runaway Moose 1388
4 Haraki 1356
5 Giant Zucchini 1341
5 Kingsford 1341
7 Bedistan 1339
8 Oglethorpia 1334
9 Squornshelous 1311
10 Europa Brittania 1310
11 The Belmore Family 1308
12 Snub Nose 38 1305
13 Ravenspire 1303
14 Gesamtkuntswerk 1302
15 Busby 1301
16 Halfassedstates 1286
17 Dennisov 1285
18 Svecia 1276
19 Ariddia 1274
20 Gilmeecia 1262

21 Oddslavo 1261
22 Errinundera 1252
23 Timway 1251
24 Audioslavia 1235
25 Tanah Burung 1226
26 Spaam 1223
27 Dark Outcasts 1218
28 Commerce Heights 1217
29 Kaze Progressa 1198
30 The Lowland Clans 1195
30 Aquilla 1195
32 One Red Dot 1189
33 Bullonien 1186
34 Quohog 1183
35 Pure Evil 1171
36 Akbarland 1166
37 East Spaam 1164
38 Pavesia 1158
39 Antaeus Rising 1155
40 Total n Utter Insanity 1153

41* The Redavic Union 1129
42 LordSquall 1127
43 Warnocks Wizards 1125
44 The Weegies 1120
45* Boa Vista 1118
46 Keyshona 1114
47 Hell Bovines 1112
48* Rejistania 1104
49 Endray-Island 1103
50 1900s Oglethorpia 1101
51* Neolithica 1077
52 Sliponia 1076
53 Eauz 1074
54 Nikea 1073
54* Sycoes 1073
56 The Dragonian Empire 1072
57 West Arridia 1071
58* Lanky Dude 1062
59 Demonic Beings 1060
60* Agnosticium 1058

61* Morawny 1054
61* WNA 1054
63* BlackEagle Corporation 1053
64 Terranos 1051
65* NASTIC 2 1047
66 Defari 1041
67* Belmorian Scandinavia 1031
68* Sensual Products 1029
68* Ineptia 1029
70 Northern Kings 1028
71* Auir II 1021
72* SterlingIce 1015
73 Australian Marsupials 1011
74 God Squad 1007
75* Jangle Jangle Ridge 1006
76* Offshore 1002
77* CallMeBernard 999
78 Mezitzia 997
79 Dead Man 996
80* New Pavesia 992
80 Bardai 992

82 Zinkoland 989
83 Zeronia 988
84* Jekonuam 984
85 Rave Shentavo 982
86* Jadonopolos 977
87* Parthenon 976
88* Consumer Engineering 970
88 Freedom Country 970
90* Wildthings Realm 964
90* Nadaskor 964
92 Anti-Nazis 958
93* Hokianga 950
93* Evisceratomatoes 950
95* Jezland 948
96* Kegarna 937
97 Alhana Catherine 927
98* Male 18 925
99* Kravoli 915
100* Clearwater 914
101* One Blue Dot 913[/code:1:0511407c6d]

Hehe 35th... and probably down a bit since we got trashed by Svecia and to a lesser extent Ravenspire :p

YEY, 7th.

Yes, 7th.

Um, duh.

What are all the gaps about?

I was thinking about this yesterday, and I was wondering:

Is there any interest in a NS American Football Tournament?

NO :P

Rankings after the First Round....

[code:1:9933e35a6f]1 Lemmitania 1393
1 Liverpool England 1393
3 Runaway Moose 1388
4 Haraki 1356
5 Kingsford 1341
5 Giant Zucchini 1341
7 Bedistan 1339
8 Oglethorpia 1334
9 Squornshelous 1311
10 Europa Brittania 1310

11 The Belmore Family 1308
12 Snub Nose 38 1305
13 Ravenspire 1303
14 Gesamtkuntswerk 1302
15 Busby 1301
16 Svecia 1276
17 Halfassedstates 1275
18 Dennisov 1274
18 Ariddia 1274
20 Gilmeecia 1262

21 Oddslavo 1261
22 Errinundera 1252
23 Timway 1251
24 Audioslavia 1235
25 Tanah Burung 1226
26 Spaam 1223
27 Dark Outcasts 1218
28 Commerce Heights 1217
29 Kaze Progressa 1198
30 The Lowland Clans 1195
30 Aquilla 1195

32 One Red Dot 1189
33 Bullonien 1186
34 Quohog 1183
35 Pure Evil 1171
36 Akbarland 1166
37 East Spaam 1164
38 Pavesia 1158
39 Antaeus Rising 1155
40 Total n Utter Insanity 1153

41 LordSquall 1127
42 Warnocks Wizards 1125
43 The Weegies 1120
44 Keyshona 1114
45 Hell Bovines 1112
46 Endray-Island 1103
47 1900s Oglethorpia 1101
48 Sliponia 1076
49 Eauz 1074
50 Nikea 1073

51 The Dragonian Empire 1072
52 Demonic Beings 1060
53 West Arridia 1058
54 Terranos 1051
55 Defari 1041
56 Northern Kings 1028
57 Australian Marsupials 1011
58 God Squad 1007
59 Mezitzia 997
60 Dead Man 996

61 Bardai 992
62 Zinkoland 989
63 Zeronia 988
64 Rave Shentavo 982
65 Freedom Country 970
66 Anti-Nazis 958
67 Alhana Catherine 927[/code:1:9933e35a6f]

Yes, thats right. Lemmy and LE are the best teams in the world.

What are all the gaps about?

<title>Uberpowers, Superpowers, Powers</title>
<style>
h3 { background:silver; color:white; font-style:italic font-weight:bold; font-size:20pt }
</style>
</head>
<body>
<h3>Überpowers</h3><br>
Bedistan<br>
Europa Brittania<br>
Lemmitania<br>
Giant Zucchini<p>

<h3>Superpowers</h3><p>
Liverpool England<br>
Haraki<br>
Errinundera<br>
Timway<br>
Runaway Moose<br>
Ravenspire<br>
Oglethorpia<br>
The Belmore Family<br>
Halfassedstates<br>
Total n Utter Insanity<p>

<h3>Powers</h3>
Oddslavo<br>
Audioslavia<br>
Busby<br>
Arridia<br>
Snub Nose 38<br>
Kingsford<br>
Squornshelous<br>
One Red Dot<br>
Spaam<br>
Runaway Moose<br>
Dennisov<br>
Gilmeecia<br>
Gesamtkuntswerk<br>
Commerce Heights <p>

<h3>Classic Teams</h3>
Brazillico<br>
Al Quds<br>
Crosshill<br>
Jurassica<br>
Communism and Vodka<br>
Vegemite<br>
Dead Man<br>
Der Angst<br>
Steel Shadows<br>

How's that?
TBF: One Edit, One Question
Edit: RM - Can't be both - Superpower is correct, I think.
Question: What are the criteria for the categories?

TBF: One Edit, One Question
Edit: RM - Can't be both - Superpower is correct, I think.
Question: What are the criteria for the categories?

1. Oops
2. Yes SP is correct
3.
Uberpower:Team I would hate to play
Superpower, someone I would not want to play
Power:Someone who I would expect to draw with!

<EDIT>

TBF: One Edit, One Question
Edit: RM - Can't be both - Superpower is correct, I think.
Question: What are the criteria for the categories?

1. Oops
2. Yes SP is correct
3.
Uberpower:Team I would hate to play
Superpower, someone I would not want to play
Power:Someone who I would expect to draw with!

I disagree.

Severely.

And putting you as a superpower and myself as a power is really selling yourself up mate, considering you have never reached the heights that I have. Dennisov won a World Cup, but he is only a power? Whereas you, unlike all the other Superpowers, have never even made it into the top 5.

Perhaps this doesn't belong here, but Rejis is now located in FIFA.

Perhaps this doesn't belong here, but Rejis is now located in FIFA.

WOOHOO! GO REJISTANIA!

Since you were the 3rd best newbie in this World Cup, and the only one in the top 3 to actually RP, I nominate you for the inaugral NSWCC Newbie Award.

WOOHOO! GO REJISTANIA!

Since you were the 3rd best newbie in this World Cup, and the only one in the top 3 to actually RP, I nominate you for the inaugral NSWCC Newbie Award.
Thanks for the compliment!

:?:

I was thinking about this yesterday, and I was wondering:

Is there any interest in a NS American Football Tournament?

NO :P


Please?

I was thinking about this yesterday, and I was wondering:

Is there any interest in a NS American Football Tournament?

NO :P


Please?

Well, cos its already been done. NSAFL or something. I suggest you look it up if you wanna get into it. But I will have no part in that 'sport', and I use the term VERY loosely :P

Iirc there is/was a north pacific tournament, which accepted also nations from all other regions.

Just for you Spaam:

Perhaps this doesn't belong here, but Rejis is now located in FIFA.

WOOHOO! GO REJISTANIA!

Since you were the 3rd best newbie in this World Cup, and the only one in the top 3 to actually RP, I nominate you for the inaugral NSWCC Newbie Award.
Will that include geting hosting privilages of WC11?

Just for you Spaam:

Perhaps this doesn't belong here, but Rejis is now located in FIFA.

WOOHOO! GO REJISTANIA!

Since you were the 3rd best newbie in this World Cup, and the only one in the top 3 to actually RP, I nominate you for the inaugral NSWCC Newbie Award.
Will that include geting hosting privilages of WC11?

If they weren't hosting with you.

Just for you Spaam:

Perhaps this doesn't belong here, but Rejis is now located in FIFA.

WOOHOO! GO REJISTANIA!

Since you were the 3rd best newbie in this World Cup, and the only one in the top 3 to actually RP, I nominate you for the inaugral NSWCC Newbie Award.
Will that include geting hosting privilages of WC11?

If they weren't hosting with you.
Someone needs a hug.....

Just for you Spaam:

Perhaps this doesn't belong here, but Rejis is now located in FIFA.

WOOHOO! GO REJISTANIA!

Since you were the 3rd best newbie in this World Cup, and the only one in the top 3 to actually RP, I nominate you for the inaugral NSWCC Newbie Award.
Will that include geting hosting privilages of WC11?

If they weren't hosting with you.
Someone needs a hug.....

Someone needs to realise that they don't stand a chance against TnUI and WW. Or LE and GE for that matter.

Someone needs to realise that they don't stand a chance against TnUI and WW. Or LE and GE for that matter. In sports, everything is possible!

Someone needs to realise that they don't stand a chance against TnUI and WW. Or LE and GE for that matter. In sports, everything is possible!

The day that TBF hosts a WC, is the day that USA wins the Rugby World Cup.

I don't know anything about Rugby, but if Honduras defeats Brazil (yes, in soccer), why can't USA win a tournament?

I don't know anything about Rugby, but if Honduras defeats Brazil (yes, in soccer), why can't USA win a tournament?

Hey, I didn't say TBF can't host a World Cup either :)

I don't know anything about Rugby, but if Honduras defeats Brazil (yes, in soccer), why can't USA win a tournament?

Hey, I didn't say TBF can't host a World Cup either :)
So you'll be voting for us?

Hell no.

And don't send TGs to the WCC members asking who they will vote for. It is none of your business.

Hell no.

And don't send TGs to the WCC members asking who they will vote for. It is none of your business.
As I said it is mealy out of interest. They do not have to reply. It's basically to see how much work I have to put in...

Hell no.

And don't send TGs to the WCC members asking who they will vote for. It is none of your business.
As I said it is mealy out of interest. They do not have to reply. It's basically to see how much work I have to put in...

Doesn't matter. None of your business.
And if I were you I'd go for WC12, because I think you have zero chance for WC11.

Hell no.

And don't send TGs to the WCC members asking who they will vote for. It is none of your business.
As I said it is mealy out of interest. They do not have to reply. It's basically to see how much work I have to put in...

Doesn't matter. None of your business.
And if I were you I'd go for WC12, because I think you have zero chance for WC11.
I still have a few things up my sleeve.

Hell no.

And don't send TGs to the WCC members asking who they will vote for. It is none of your business.
As I said it is mealy out of interest. They do not have to reply. It's basically to see how much work I have to put in...

Doesn't matter. None of your business.
And if I were you I'd go for WC12, because I think you have zero chance for WC11.
I still have a few things up my sleeve.

As I said, you have zero chance for WC11.
And the more you say, the less I want to vote for you.

Hell no.

And don't send TGs to the WCC members asking who they will vote for. It is none of your business.
As I said it is mealy out of interest. They do not have to reply. It's basically to see how much work I have to put in...

Doesn't matter. None of your business.
And if I were you I'd go for WC12, because I think you have zero chance for WC11.
I still have a few things up my sleeve.

As I said, you have zero chance for WC11.
And the more you say, the less I want to vote for you.
You were never going to vote for me in the first place :|

Question: What are the criteria for the categories?
Uberpower:Team I would hate to play
Superpower, someone I would not want to play
Power:Someone who I would expect to draw with!

Hmm, looks like I should go delete the page then.

This thread's lists are silly. QUIDDITCH WORLD CUP????!???

A vote for LE is a vote for intorralance!

This message was brought to you by TnUI Propaganda Inc, the peoples propaganda.

~slaps TnUI with a trout~

BUMP

~slaps TnUI with a trout~

BUMP

/me slaps TnUI with his sister's Busted CD

<baleeted!>

I also think, this list is not that appropriate, since there seems to be no clear criteria how to sort the nations in the categories.

Did not mean to start a war over who's "Uber", "Super", or a plane m&m. 8)

I think there should be some sort of parity for a teams when the lists are being decided. However, I fall back on the two "rules" I use to kind of decide where I stand on WC stuff:

1. Those who DO the work (hosting, tables, stats, whatever) get to decide - the rest of us get to suggest.
2. It's a game.
:wink:

1. Those who DO the work (hosting, tables, stats, whatever) get to decide - the rest of us get to suggest.
But the people who do the work get to decide who does the work in the future, so people who want to do the work don't necessarily get a chance to. :P

1. Those who DO the work (hosting, tables, stats, whatever) get to decide - the rest of us get to suggest.
But the people who do the work get to decide who does the work in the future, so people who want to do the work don't necessarily get a chance to. :P

Why what did you want to do? Also stop complaining about the table, instead turn TB into a hate figure in your country. I find that works really well ;)

Hey, no one could hate us. We're just fluffy, cuddly bunnies! Well, Margaret hates us. Damn her and her black arts!

Actually CH, our countries hating each other IC makes a lot of sense. I'll accuse of of trying to bribe the judges with your evil capitalist ways etc etc. I'm not interested in ooc arguing though.

Also stop complaining about the table, instead turn TB into a hate figure in your country. I find that works really well

IC rivalries are what make the WC fun, and you won't find a better partner than TB. So take TnUI's advice, stop getting pissed off OOC for something that was, actually, a logical decision, and turn your bitchin' toward IC posts.

Hey, no one could hate us. We're just fluffy, cuddly bunnies! Well, Margaret hates us. Damn her and her black arts!

Actually CH, our countries hating each other IC makes a lot of sense. I'll accuse of of trying to bribe the judges with your evil capitalist ways etc etc. I'm not interested in ooc arguing though.
Margaret is insulted! She doesn't deny anything, she's just insulted. :wink:

Margaret is insulted! She doesn't deny anything, she's just insulted. :wink:

Success! :wink:

Can you add the official Cricket League web site too please??

http://www.freewebs.com/nationstatescricket/index.htm

Can you add the official Cricket League web site too please??

http://www.freewebs.com/nationstatescricket/index.htm

Yep, if anyone knows of any more threads let me know and I'll add em.

Did not mean to start a war over who's "Uber", "Super", or a plane m&m. 8)

I think there should be some sort of parity for a teams when the lists are being decided. However, I fall back on the two "rules" I use to kind of decide where I stand on WC stuff:

1. Those who DO the work (hosting, tables, stats, whatever) get to decide - the rest of us get to suggest.
2. It's a game.
:wink:

I had been wondering how the 'titles' were sorted, I thought TnUI had sorted them the first time and was wondering if/when they would be changed.
I agree with Snub completely on the decision making process - those who do the work deserve their say as to how it should be done (after all if they're doing it they'll know how they can do it best!) {and point 2 is highlighted for a reason!}

If/when i get some free time, i'd love to get more involved in the 'operational' side of things, but i doubt i'd do it justice at the moment, hence why i've turned down the few offers that have came my way (hopefully no-one took it personally!)

To CH - with the number of other competitions out there, anyone could help out with them and have experience of hosting, then the only real reason for not getting a hosting bid would be bad timing. (ie. coming up against an excellent bid by another couple of nations!) or if you p1ss-off the main WCC members

I was gonna do them when I have a lot of free time aka when I'm in America (Dec/Jan)

the only real reason for not getting a hosting bid would be bad timing.
...
or if you p1ss-off the main WCC members

Now, when has this ever happened? 8)

But seriously... Halfassed is right, but when it comes to voting, everyone on the WCC gets one vote. TBF hasn't been blackballed from hosting by Spaam.

I'd say that if someone puts up what appear to be several credible hosting bids, and still hasn't been elected host, it might be because they've annoyed the majority of the WCC members.

I'd like to point out that I do not have a window into others' minds, and I don't have any special knowledge about who likes and dislikes whom. I'm just saying... if someone keeps getting passed over, it's not because one person on the WCC doesn't like them.

Halfassed's point that sometimes it can be bad timing is perfectly valid. The past several cups, there have been plenty of hosting bids. So if you've been bidding and missing, it doesn't necessarily mean that someone (or someones) doesn't like you. But if you've noticed multiple WCC members making posts that criticize your behavior, and coincidentally your bids have not been winning, you might want to pay close attention to what aspects of your behavior are being criticized.

That's all I'm saying.

I was gonna do them when I have a lot of free time aka when I'm in America (Dec/Jan)

For those not in the know, TnUI continues to be on the lam. He's exhausted all possible hiding places in the United Kingdom, and will soon be making an attempt to cross the pond and continue his hiding-out in the Great Wastelands of America.

For Brits, this means you'll soon have an opportunity to walk the streets free of fear that TnUI will jump out from behind a bush and shove custards at you.

For Americans, this means that you'll soon have a chance to join in the manhunt and, if you're lucky, catch him and turn him in for a big reward!

Good luck to all Brits and Americans in their respective endeavours.

I was gonna do them when I have a lot of free time aka when I'm in America (Dec/Jan)

For those not in the know, TnUI continues to be on the lam. He's exhausted all possible hiding places in the United Kingdom, and will soon be making an attempt to cross the pond and continue his hiding-out in the Great Wastelands of America.

For Brits, this means you'll soon have an opportunity to walk the streets free of fear that TnUI will jump out from behind a bush and shove custards at you.

For Americans, this means that you'll soon have a chance to join in the manhunt and, if you're lucky, catch him and turn him in for a big reward!

Good luck to all Brits and Americans in their respective endeavours.
The Ministry of Super Secret Sleuthery does not have certain information regarding the specific lamb TnUI will not be on upon arrival in...well, on the west side of a certain body of water which shall remain unidentified. Further, the Ministry is not even remotely aware of the various lambs TnUI will not be on during this alleged visit. Nor is the Ministry in possession of any data regarding dates, times, or locations. If we did have this information, we would of course share it in order to assist in the manhunt. It is unfortunate that we do not possess this information.

It didn't happen. It will never happen. It's not happening now.

(We did catch some reference to a "girl friend" or something, but we believe that to be encrypted information)
8)

- ...What? Not lamb? What's not lamb? "L" - "A" - "M"...well, what the heck is that? ...oh...

turn TB into a hate figure in your country. I find that works really well ;)

having hate figures is ace, unless you dont actually ever play the team, in which case all you get to do is take the piss out of their crappy formulas and their underachieving football team :)

1. Those who DO the work (hosting, tables, stats, whatever) get to decide - the rest of us get to suggest.
But the people who do the work get to decide who does the work in the future, so people who want to do the work don't necessarily get a chance to. :P

Why what did you want to do? Also stop complaining about the table, instead turn TB into a hate figure in your country. I find that works really well ;)
I assure you that the comment you quoted was purely hypothetical. ;)
Also, I was working on doing something IC, I just wanted to see the Round of 16 results first. Which, of course, helped my cause, since Commerce Heights is now clearly the better team. On goal differential. :P (j/k)

OOC: The powers that be ([violet]) have granted the petitioned request for NS Archives. I know many regular WC participants "signed" that petition.

Hack posted a "How To" get a thread archived. Primarily, the thread author requests it of the mods, and the thread is "LOCKED" once archived. Heres the link to Hacks' "How To":

How To Ask For A Thread To Be Archived (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=94288&sid=9ba0a43a993aa995cad3eb058d815605)


The Mods cannot ressurect threads, only [violet] can, so don't ask us.


Nooooooo, we will never get our WC threads back now! :cry:
MOVED HERE FROM WC9 RP THREAD.

I would think the first order of business would be to try to get existing threads archived (by their authors) before they get deleted due to inactivity/whatever.

And the second order of business would be to try to develop a list of threads already deleted and their author(s), so we can then go before the great and powerful [violet], hat in hand, and ask for them to be resurrected.

The third order of business will be to bring the broomstick of the Wicked Witch of the West to the great and... :wink:

But seriously... Halfassed is right,
...............
Halfassed's point that sometimes it can be bad timing is perfectly valid.

Whoa - thats almost like 2 compliments in 1 post - *runs around like a slightly hyperactive happy child* Wahooooooo!

;)

Nooooooo, we will never get our WC threads back now! :cry:
MOVED HERE FROM WC9 RP THREAD.

I would think the first order of business would be to try to get existing threads archived (by their authors) before they get deleted due to inactivity/whatever.

And the second order of business would be to try to develop a list of threads already deleted and their author(s), so we can then go before the great and powerful [violet], hat in hand, and ask for them to be resurrected.

The third order of business will be to bring the broomstick of the Wicked Witch of the West to the great and... :wink:

\o/

unfortunately, World Cups 1, 2, 3 and 5 have disappeared :( but 4 is still alive, as are the rest :) if its only the thread starter that can apply to archive a thread, we might be in a bit of bother to save the WC4 thread, seeing as it was started by Brazilico....

i think i might have started the World Cup 7 thread, so i'll go about saving that one right...

..,.now

edit: its already been saved by Spaam apparently :( stealing my glory :(

does this mean the teams participating in the cup proper are ranked twice - once as to how they did just during the cup, and once as all other teams for a final "after the cup" ranking? or something else? we really do apologize for being so thick. we will rely on our old excuse of being old. we will now randomly dodder off in a daze*

Just ignore the tables. :wink:

does this mean the teams participating in the cup proper are ranked twice - once as to how they did just during the cup, and once as all other teams for a final "after the cup" ranking? or something else? we really do apologize for being so thick. we will rely on our old excuse of being old. we will now randomly dodder off in a daze*

Just ignore the tables. :wink:
Check your TGs

does this mean the teams participating in the cup proper are ranked twice - once as to how they did just during the cup, and once as all other teams for a final "after the cup" ranking? or something else? we really do apologize for being so thick. we will rely on our old excuse of being old. we will now randomly dodder off in a daze*

Just ignore the tables. :wink:

Excellent advice! 8)

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