NationStates Jolt Archive

(OOC: This is a long one. Sorry about that.)

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The Triumvirate of Yut DataNet (http://www.silentrequiem.net/triumvirate)

CHARTER OF THE TRIUMVIRATE OF YUT

ARTICLE ONE: STATEMENT OF PURPOSE

The Triumvirate of Yut, as established by its signatory nations, is to:
1. Provide for the common defense of all Yut members.
2. Provide for the common cause and welfare of all Yut members.
3. Provide a federal structure for peaceful relations between all Yut members.
4. Any other purposes determined in the future my common consensus that are needed.

We find Earth to be a cold place of suffering and hatred. By escaping to the stars, we shall found a new society where the interest of one’s fellow sentient can be placed above the interest of the individual. Through a vision of the future and a realistic assessment of the present, we shall achieve an internal peace the likes of which that have only been imagined in the past.

The Triumvirate of Yut shall assemble a fleet of colony vessels and colonize Titan, moon of Saturn. There it will establish its new society and its new home.

The Triumvirate of Yut shall expand to colonize the entire Saturn System and use its resources for the betterment of all members.

The Triumvirate of Yut announces its goals to combat genocide and oppression on Earth using diplomacy and military extraction operations if necessary. To this goal, the First Titan Expeditionary Force (1st TEF) of the Triumvirate of Yut Combined Services (TYCS) will be formed and sent into the Earth theatre, based out of the Earth Trojan Orbit space station Valhalla.

The Triumvirate of Yut announces its goal to build an artificial ring habitat around the Saturnian System to provide living space for its people into the known future. Also, this Ring shall be open for nations that meet the Triumvirate of Yut’s standards to colonize.

ARTICLE TWO: COMMON DEFENSE

All member states of the Triumvirate of Yut shall allocate a negotiated amount of its annual budget to the common defense of the Triumvirate of Yut. These forces will be under the command of the Triumvirate of Yut Combined Services (TYCS) and be used to maintain peace in the Triumvirate of Yut’s domain as well as execute its declared objectives abroad.

All member states will be allowed to maintain a standing self-controlled military force inside Saturnian System space, but these forces may not exceed either in number nor in funding the forces contributed to the TYCS.

All nations living in Triumvirate of Yut space will be allowed to maintain a standing self-defense force, but it may not equal more than ten percent in numbers nor funding as the TYCS.

ARTICLE THREE: COMMON CAUSE AND WELFARE

All signatory nations of the Triumvirate of Yut will have free trade in ideas and products in between them. Freedom of movement will not be restricted within the Triumvirate of Yut except in cases of extreme emergency, including but not limited to quarantine and martial law situations. Triumvirate of Yut members will not put tariffs on products from other members, and will give other members preferential trading status over non-members.

Any emergency in any member state shall be responded to by all other member states with aid.


ARTICLE FOUR: FEDERAL STRUCTURE

The Triumvirate of Yut Council will be made of the leaders of each member country, kept in constant contact via telecommunications assets. The Council will have a “first amongst equals” structure, with debates and parliamentary procedures as follows:
1. One leader may speak at a time, with a ten-minute time limit per speaker.
2. Declarations of War require a two-thirds majority.
3. Changes to the Triumvirate of Yut Charter require a two-thirds majority.
4. Usage of Military Forces requires a simple majority.
5. Changes in Foreign Policy require a simple majority.
The “first among equals” will be the founding members of the Triumvirate of Yut (Karmabaijan, Scolopendra, Suunto), who will hold veto power. Vetos can be overturned with a three-fourths majority.

The Triumvirate of Yut may only make laws pertinent to the Triumvirate’s international relations, internal relations between members, and its stated purposes. The internal sovereignty of each member nation is ensured.

ARTICLE FIVE: ADAPTABILITY

This document is intended to be changed to meet the changing realities in the future. As according to Article Four, the Charter of the Triumvirate of Yut may be amended with a two-thirds majority of member nations.

SIGNATORY NATIONS

Free Land of Karmabaijan (now Ordinance Enabled Karmic Hegemony of)
Federation of Scolopendra
Rogue State of Suunto
Principality of Berserker
Free Land of Zero-One (now Queendom of)
Dominion of LaRhiannon [un-extant]
Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Incorporated States of Nexus Industries [un-extant]
Empire of Cetaganda
Empire of Khenala
Most Serene Republic of Maryu [un-extant]
The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands [now Tourist Trapdom of]
The Borderlands of Freod
The Dominion of Angelus
The Empire of Eniqcir
The Dominion of Dread Lady Nathicana
The Territory Co-Prosperity Sphere
The Federation of Sentient Peoples
The Shogunate of Reploid Productions
The Empire of Sakkra
The Republic of Sunset

AMENDMENTS

AMENDMENT ONE: RIGHTS OF SENTIENCE

SECTION I: DEFINITION OF SENTIENCE
Sentience is defined as having all the capabilities of: Usage of language to communicate complex abstract ideas, the ability to come to conclusions given insufficient data (leaps of intuition), and the ability to form original ideas (creativity). Sentience is independent of the form it takes, be it the various forms of organic or electronic life.

SECTION II: RIGHTS OF SENTIENT BEINGS WITHIN THE TRIUMVIRATE OF YUT
1. All sentient beings are entitled to compensation for work. Slavery in all forms is hereby banned in the Triumvirate of Yut.
2. All sentient beings are entitled to fair and equal consideration by the governments and total societies of the Triumvirate of Yut, including all branches at all levels of government, federal and local.
All sentient beings are entitled to free peaceful movement and communication inside and between member states of the Triumvirate of Yut.

AMENDMENT TWO: LIMITATION OF AGGRESSION

1. The Triumvirate is not required to participate in any aggressive military action started unilaterally by any single member or group for member. This is to prevent the Triumvirate from being dragged into a war in the interest of a single nation.

2. Furthermore, any ongoing non-mutual defense military action can be immediately ceased if a majority of the Triumvirate votes to end it.

(OOC: Input is welcome. We've been around for a while, and pretty stable too, so I'm sure this thing has been modified plenty of times. Needless to say, suggestions from Triumvirate members will be given preference over non-member suggestions)

[Mod 1: Have been informed that ALL of Menelmacar is a member. This kinda confuses my past RP, but... oh well... The "colony is a member but motherland isn't" bit still applies, though.

Mod 2: Changed the "one of percent budget to common defense" to "negotiated amount of budget to common defense." Another Menelmacari suggestion. Gee, I got blindsided with that.

Mod 3: Again, the "whoops-all-of-Menelmacar-is-a-member" changes the paradigm. The sovereign national forces in the Saturnian System must be equal to or less than the forces contributed to the TYCS. This keeps Menelmacar from having to double her military (giving the new bit to us) or halving her military (giving half to us).

Mod 4: Added the Industrialized States of Nexus Industries to the list of signatory nations.

Mod 5: Added the Empire of Cetaganda and the Empire of Khenala to the list of signatory nations.

Mod 6: Added the Most Serene Republic of Maryu to the list of signatory nations.

Mod 7: Added the Dominion of the Black as a signatory nation.

Mod 8: Added the Dominion of the SLAGLands as a signatory nation.

Mod 9: Added The Borderlands of Freod as a signatory nation.

Mod 10: Added The Dominion of Angelus as a signatory nation.

Mod... um... lost count: Added lots of signatories. Added Amendment Two. Added Sakkra. Added Sunset.]

(OOC: Input is welcome. We've been around for a while, and pretty stable too, so I'm sure this thing has been modified plenty of times. Needless to say, suggestions from Triumvirate members will be given preference over non-member suggestions)

Yes, we've been around for a while, *points to founded on date* probably longer than you. So don't be trying to step up in our space, yo.

-Starwind
Supreme General Titan Defensive Forces

"Ah! Maybe people will finally understand what we are all about! Less confusion means less people might try something stupid!

President Xeruyu VonKarma
Rupublic of Karmabaijan
Triumvirate of Yut

OOC:A cookie for the person who notices somehing about this post!

OOC:A cookie for the person who notices somehing about this post!
The ring is mentioned. But it's supposed to be old?
Or that Suunto doesn't reall RP

Or the fact that you gave vonKarma a first name.

MAJOR IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENT BUMP

The Menelmacari colony, "Menelmacari Tulkas," is not a member of the Triumvirate.

The entire empire of Menelmacar PROPER is.

Might our soon-to-be-founded colony sign this treaty?

MAJOR IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENT BUMP



The Menelmacari colony, "Menelmacari Tulkas," is not a member of the Triumvirate.



The entire empire of Menelmacar PROPER is.

Given the implications of Article Two, that's pretty Major Important Development, yes.

Might our soon-to-be-founded colony sign this treaty?

Once it moves to the Saturnian System, and we accept it (which is highly probable), sure. As long as you understand the implications of becoming a signatory nation, I'm sure all will be well.

Supreme Emperor Kommetrez
Federation of Scolopendra

[This has reminded me to get to work on my own constitution. I keep putting it off.
Quick question regarding the military...let's say a hypothetical nation considering joining happened to have a large space-based military, including a major installation at, say, Callisto. Would they have to include all of it when determining how much to contribute to the TCYS? Because, hypothetically, said nation might not be able to easily afford to maintain current forces and provide the funding if that was the case, even if they scrapped most of the ground defense forces after moving.]

[This has reminded me to get to work on my own constitution. I keep putting it off.
Quick question regarding the military...let's say a hypothetical nation considering joining happened to have a large space-based military, including a major installation at, say, Callisto. Would they have to include all of it when determining how much to contribute to the TCYS? Because, hypothetically, said nation might not be able to easily afford to maintain current forces and provide the funding if that was the case, even if they scrapped most of the ground defense forces after moving.]
[member states] "shall allocate a negotiated amount of its annual budget to the common defense of the Triumvirate of Yut."
I'm sure the Trium and any given hypothetical nation can come up with something.

"All member states will be allowed to maintain a standing self-controlled military force inside Saturnian System space, but these forces may not exceed either in number nor in funding the forces contributed to the TYCS. "
One can have as many forces as you want outside of the Saturnian System, but the forces inside must be less than or equal to the contribution to the TYCS. So Menelmacar can have her big giant gravship fleets on Earth and not necessarily have to provide a great deal of support to the TYCS (although the amount she does provide is privledged information).

Scolopendran Independent News (S.I.N.)
"Because it sucks to be S.I.N.-less"

The Industrialized States of Nexus Industries has been accepted into the Triumvirate of Yut.

Scolopendran Independent News
"Because it sucks to be S.I.N.-less"

News Ticker: CETAGANDA AND KHENALA JOIN THE TRIUMVIRATE OF YUT

The Empires of Cetaganda and Khenala recently moved their headquarters to the Ring and granted membership into the Triumvirate of Yut. Now is an expansive time for the Triumvirate, and we welcome our old friends and new siblings to our home.

*waves at everyone*

Khenala is proud to join such great allies in the Triumvirate and express great hope at the benefits of this alliance.

Maryu officially signs the Triumvirate of Yut treaty. Here's to long years of peace and prosperity!

*incidental bump, too ^_^*

The nets

{Public Diplomatic Transmission, Full Sensory Feed}
x Senior Advisor Marie Liberté binti Yasmin
o Citizens, Residents, Juveniles, Visitors, Triumvirate of Yut, Territory Co-Prosperity Sphere, Concerned Parties

Moments ago, I formally signed the Charter of the Triumvirate of Yut. Even before the Dominion's soon to be completed move to Saturnspace we enjoyed good relationships with the Triumvirate. Relations have grown closer with our establishment of ground colonies on Rhea, habitats and industrial facilities throughout Saturnspace, and the never-ending labor of love that is the creation of vast wildlife reserves on the Ring of Powerfulness. The Citizens of the Dominion have long debated it, and in the final Advisory Referendum confirmed their wishes that the Dominion join the Triumvirate. And so, here I stand. And here we stand. And here we will all remain.

Space
"Yut Defense HQ, this is Maria Kutusov, commanding Fast Strike Fleet Puissant. We accept your command and stand ready to modify link to tactical net and IFF code on your mark."

"Yut Defense HQ, this is Jurgen David, commanding Reinforced Carrier Group Dauntless..."

"Yut Defense HQ, this is Belisarius von Saucken-Thorne, commanding Heavy Wall Group Skylark Two..."

Rhea

The signing took place during afternoon Saturn Standard on a Friday. There is mostly restrained jubilation and discussion. Then the working day ends...

The party begins.

The mechanisms of the Dominion and those exemplars of gravitas who choose to serve during part of the celebration are overworked. To say the least.

The Ring

In the terraforming-phase areas machines work on. Crews are greatly reduced, though. There is a lot of barbecuing in the new Earthlike lands this night, and the fast transit systems have gotten a workout.

In the terraformed area , those present hardly notice. There are predators here attuned to RF transmissions and the handshaking involved in checking one's mail is anything but risk free. Better and more satisfying to simply roar a challenge. When the smell of materials deposits is on you, there are many animals that will come for you.

TO: Triumvirate of Yut Council
FM: Marlena Cantrell, Prime Minister, The SLAGLands
RE: Membership to or Alliance with the Triumvirate

The SLAGLands have been closely watching the actions of the Triumvirate as of late, and we find this body intriguing. While we feel that at this time we cannot abandon our home in The SLAGLands, I am nonetheless interested in joining the Triumvirate, perhaps by means of a colony under SLAGLandic rule to be set up within the Ring. If nothing else, we seek to form an alliance with the Triumvirate, providing mutual defense across the cosmos.

The SLAGLands have long held up the principles of mutual defense and respect among our current alliance, the WMNK Coalition. Since our beginning some 100 years ago, when Enrick von Slagalotz united the tribes of The SLAGLands into a single nation, we have upheld the principles that all freedom-loving people hold tantamount: free trade, equal protection under the law, free speech, and freedom of choice. We believe these are exactly the sorts of freedoms the Triumvirate of Yut seeks to uphold.

If accepted into this body, The SLAGLands will donate 100% of our standing military to Triumvirate defense over the course of the next six months. We will open our borders to trade with all Triumvirate nations--and indeed all peace-loving peoples of the world. We will guarantee the diplomatic respect and friendship due any nation in such a body.

And, perhaps best of all... The SLAGLands will set up factories for Granny Slag's Homestyle Confections within the Titan ring.

Please consider our application, and we thank you for your time.

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Marlena Vera Cantrell
Prime Minister
The Dominion of The SLAGLands

<Communications to fellow Triumvirate Members>
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<< A Granny Slag's Homestyle Pudding factory HERE? In Saturnian Space? Oooh, oooh, let 'em in!

>< I wonder if threatening rampancy would help my case any... naw... that's like an organic child threatening to hold their breath. Move to plan B.

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<< Pleeeeeeease?
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S.H.O.D.A.N. v3.0 : MCP, Q01

(OOC: This is a long one. Sorry about that.)

CHARTER OF THE TRIUMVIRATE OF YUT

A triumvirate is a committee of three men, but there is nothing anywhere in your charter about a committee of three. Why do you call it a triumvirate if it isn't one?

If you read down, you see that the "First Among Equals" are the three founding countries, i.e. the original Triumvirate. When the Triumvirate became a quadumvirate, pentumvirate, hexumvirate, etc. it kept the Triumvirate name because it was traditional.

If you read down, you see that the "First Among Equals" are the three founding countries, i.e. the original Triumvirate. When the Triumvirate became a quadumvirate, pentumvirate, hexumvirate, etc. it kept the Triumvirate name because it was traditional.

Ah! Thanks!

TO: Fish and Forestries Minster (is that like a Minister?) Obadiah Gump


We call that a "typo".

(By the way, a minster is a monastery, not an official.)

The Triumvirate Of Yut First Among Equals Council is scheduled to discuss the case of SLAGlands entry into the Trium at the earliest possible opportunity. However, it is reasonable assured that the process will be fairly streamlined, perhaps riding on rails of pudding would be a more accurate description.....


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President Xeruyu VonKarma
Republic of Karmabaijan

{Public Diplomatic Transmission}
x Marie Liberté binti Yasmin (Senior Advisor)
o Triumvirate of Yut, SLAGlands

Should the SLAGlands join the Triumvirate, we would gladly welcome them.

{Public Diplomatic Transmission}
x Lord Gregor Vetinari (Emperor, Cetagandan Empire)
o Triumvirate of Yut, SLAGlands

As would we, provided there's plenty of Granny Slag's in it for us.
Shodey, please stop trying to give us poor humans heart attacks.

The Khenalian High Council finds that the SLAGland's international record is of good standing, and pass our recommendation for acceptance into the Triumvirate onto the First Among Equals Council.

Andrew Seal
Prime Minister
Empire of Khenala

I'm all for SLAGLands' acceptance. They seem like decent people.

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Executive Officer
Federation of Scolopendra

And honorable warriors.

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Foot-to-Ass (formerly Defense) Section
Federation of Scolopendra

And they make such good puddin'!

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International Trade Section
Federation of Scolopendra

The Council has decided. The Dominion of the SLAGlands shall be invited to sign the Charter. We welcome the people of SLAGlands (especially granny SLAG!) to the prosperity and protection of the Triumvirate of Yut!


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President Xeruyu VonKarma
Republic of Karmabaijan

The Council has decided. The Dominion of the SLAGlands shall be invited to sign the Charter. We welcome the people of SLAGlands (especially granny SLAG!) to the prosperity and protection of the Triumvirate of Yut!


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President Xeruyu VonKarma
Republic of Karmabaijan

(OOC: W00T! A thousand times, W00T!

...*ahem*... control yourself, there, Billy...)

IC:
Prime Minister Marlena Cantrell is honored that The SLAGLands have been accepted into the Triumverate of Yut and will sign the Charter immediately. SLAGLandic space crews have rendezvoused with the International Space Station for refuelling. The next stop will be the Titan system and the founding of the first true SLAGLandic space colony.

TO: Titan Ring
FM: SLAGLandic Space Vessel Doc Bunny
RE: Docking with Titan Ring

This is Mark Biddlebaum, Commander of the Doc Bunny, requesting permission to dock in the Titan Ring. We have all necessary equipment prepared for establishing the Titan colony, including the first wave of workers from Granny Slag's Homestyle Confections. Please grant us permission to land (OOC: Send the password to this country so I can move to the region!).

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Mark Biddlebaum
Viceroy
The Incorporated States of SLAGLand Titan

Doc Bunny, this is Ring Control with you on Gamma Frequency. A Ring Pilot (think harbor pilot) will be docking with your vessel shortly to guide you to your new home. Would you prefer a specific environment? CRM-114 nation descriminator code prefix has been sent via secure communique.

Doc Bunny, this is Ring Control with you on Gamma Frequency. A Ring Pilot (think harbor pilot) will be docking with your vessel shortly to guide you to your new home. Would you prefer a specific environment? CRM-114 nation descriminator code prefix has been sent via secure communique.

(OOC: Just out of morbid curiosity, have you terraformed this entire ring? i.e. What exactly do you mean by "specific environment?")

(OOC: Hell no. We'll never "finish" terraforming the damned thing.)

(OOC: Hell no. We'll never "finish" terraforming the damned thing.)

(OOC: Just read the regional information... I think I understand now.)

Ring Control, this is Doc Bunny. If coastal environments are available, we are interested in setting up the colony there. SLAGLanders are most comfortable when they're near a hulking body of water, after all. Doc Bunny out.

::The Ring Pilot::
Ahhh, I know just the place. The terraformers finished there about 2 weeks ago. Ring Control, this is Pilot 458, we will be heading to sector Nu-689 intersect Kilo-333. ::back to the SLAGS:: Its a prime piece of realestate. Miles of shore, tropical forest, transitioning to steppe and foothills, got a bit of everything. You'll love it.

Welcome to our little slice of space.

-Berserker President Elect Maica'telcontar

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~>Route: Automata X1 - Angelus Mainframe - Trium of Yut
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We are Angelus.
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We are a technologically advanced nation comprised almost entirely of
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automata and automata constructs, led by the construct/mind X1.
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We have been monitoring the Trium's activity for some time now,
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and have decided to seek Our home within your ranks.
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We are old, founded by the original X1 construct, the brainchild of the
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Familia Caelistis. Originally designed as a battlelord construct, X1
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achieved sentience shortly after creation. Since then, We have grown
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into a massive nation, independant of the Caelistis, a nation sworn to
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the advancement of Our own Awareness, and the defense of Automata
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all across the universe.
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We wish to join the Triumverate, because We believe that the Trium to
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hold values similar to Our own. The Trium's stance on sentience
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intrigues us, and We wish to add Our Own collective sentience to the
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Triume.
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Please respond.
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~>Route closed
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Looks like Angelus would fit right in within the ranks of the Trium. I say we let 'im in.

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Marlena Vera Cantrell
Prime Minister
The Dominion of The SLAGLands

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~>Route: Automata X1 - Angelus Mainframe - Triume
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{We greatly appriciate the kind words spoken by Prime Minister Cantrell}
{and We hope We can live up to her expectations, and the expectations}
{of all of the people of the SLAGLands}
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~>Route closed
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I agree. It never hurts to have powerful friends.

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International Relations Section
Federation of Scolopendra

###BEGIN TRANSMISSION###
~>Route: Automata X1 - Angelus Mainframe - Triume
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{We thank the words spoken by Advisor Speaker-to-Animals in acceptance}
{of Us. Powerful allies are usefull, and though We believe Ourselves to be}
{more powerful than most, We nod in respect to the Triume.}
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~>Route closed
###END TRANSMISSION###

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~>Route: Omicron Blu - Angelus Mainframe - Triume
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{We are happy to have found a home.}
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~>Route closed
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Automata Omicron Blu
Speaker of the Dominion

Ah... After all this time, I think we can finally put in an application. The last incident with the Gurlanai was over a year ago, the whole Pagag crisis. The situation seems to have stabilized by now, they seem content to stay in the Kuiper Belt.

Anyway, if they do become aggressive again, we'll keep y'all out of it. No reason to put you in unnecessary danger, and, well, if they mop the floor with our capital ships, so be it.

Umm... yeah.

Well, after that rather morbid thought, can we just pick up where we left off last time?

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~>Route: Omicron Blu - Angelus Mainframe - Triumverate of Yut
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{We concur, and support Our ally and friend, Rage of the Seraphim Fleet.}
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~>Route closed
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Automata Omicron Blu
Speaker of the Dominion

The Empire desires to sign the Charter, so that we might truly join alongside our allies inside the Triumvirate of Yut, and forevermore be bonded in unity. May our paths forever be entwined, and our futures always be bright, and full of prosper.

Enough diplomatic spiel, eh? Where do We sign?

~ Emperor Si Ling I, speaking on behalf of the Executive Council of The Empire of The Eternal Dawn

On behalf of Triumvirate of Yut signatory nation The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands, I hereby voice my support for both The Seraphim Fleet and the Empire of The Eternal Dawn.

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Marlena Vera Cantrell
Prime Minister
The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands

Hey, what about us? I guess that's what I get for putting my application at the bottom of the previous page... Go look at it.

Wow, three applicants.
Hmmm...

Oh, yeah... and I support Enicqir, too.

-Mar

(OOC: That IS what you get. :P)

We have a long standing with Eniqcir and believe that they should be accepted.

The same with the Empire of the Eternal Dawn. They have acted honorably with us many times.

For the Seraphim Fleet, we have had... mixed relations with Sephirus in the past. We are willing to house their people on the Ring for humanitarian purposes, but are unsure that a full membership is wise currently.

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Scolopendran Delegate
Council of the Triumvirate of Yut

"Seeing as how hostile situations have been coming up that require immediate action, I propose an amendment that will allow the deployment of offensive TYCS forces upon a unanimous vote of the Trium First Among Equals Council. They will be able to deploy forces only until the full council has a chance to meet and vote on the issue, maintaing the 2/3 vote, as established in the Charter. This will allow a much faster reaction time to developing situations, something that we are sorely lacking at this time. I await your questions/comments/complaints/concerns."


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President Xeruyu VonKarma
The Armed Republic of Karmabaijan
Triumvirate of Yut
Titan

"I would also like to echo the sentiments from Supreme Emperor Kommetrez. We wholehartedly support Eniqcir and the Empire of the Eternal Dawn for admittance into the Triumvirate of Yut. I also have some reservations about Sephirus, and believe that allowing them to live on the ring now, and have a chance at membership in the future is our best course of action."


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President Xeruyu VonKarma
The Armed Republic of Karmabaijan
Triumvirate of Yut
Titan

I have already asked SLAGlands about this and he told me to check with you. President Xeruyu VonKarma, I, Emperor Alexander Nemerov, would like you to induct the Empire of Steel Butterfly into the Triumvirate of Yut. We are already a space-faring nation and have a colony on a moon, soley discovered by us. (Steel Moon, a real nation) I hope you accept my offer.

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Emperor Alexander Nemerov
Empire of Steel Butterfly
Midnight Incorporated Empire
GDODAD, COMA, NSU Professor

We do not wish to be aligned with GDODAD in any way at this time.

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Scolopendran Delegate
Council of the Triumvirate of Yut

Regarding the proposed amendment, Þa Mearclandas Freodes requires futher clarification on the limitations placed upon the deployment of forces by the council, both in time and action.

Eadwacer bearn GarÞeowes, Mearclanda Þeoden, Freodes Weard

Understood...is there any way that accepting me without the rest of GDODAD could be allowed? Anyhow, there is no more GDODAD. The Dominion(what we now call it) is different and it almost complete with reforms. That being said, I feel I need to branch out from the restraints that GDODAD had me in by joining this Triumvirate. Is there any way I could enter?

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Emperor Alexander Nemerov
Empire of Steel Butterfly
Midnight Incorporated Empire
GDODAD, COMA, NSU Professor

We remain ideologically opposed to the concept behind GDODAD and do not believe it wise to associate with it or any spinoff organization in any way whatsoever.

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Chief of State
Federated Segments of Scolopendra

(OOC: Note, speaking as chief-of-state of Scolopendra)

We understand, but perhaps it would be all for the better. Steel Butterfly is in no way an evil dictatorship, and relishes the chance for improvement.

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Emperor Alexander Nemerov
Empire of Steel Butterfly
Midnight Incorporated Empire
GDODAD, COMA, NSU Professor

The Empire extends a warm thank-you to those nations whom have uttered words of support in its favour.

~ Ambassador Dejure

"Emperor Nemerov, you have been given your answer by my colleague, Emperor Kommetrez of Scolopendra. But, apparently you have failed to understand the implications of his words. So allow me to clarify things. The Triumvirate has decided not to accept your application. Thank you for your interest, and have a nice day."


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President Xeruyu VonKarma
The Armed Republic of Karmabaijan
Triumvirate of Yut
Titan

"I was looking for your answer. Thank you for being so...polite about it. Perhaps you shall change your mind in the future. Either way, good day."

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Emperor Alexander Nemerov
Empire of Steel Butterfly
Steel Isle, Steel Moon,
CTaNbHaR Eabo4Ka, XIII
Over 2 Billion People and Growing
Midnight, GDODAD, COMA, NSU Professor

OOC: Scolo and angelus already landed your people on the ring...they have told you this in a few different places...

We too would be willing to house some of the Seraphim. Is it true Þæt eow habbaþ ecgs fyres? (that you have flaming swords?)

Eadwacer bearn Garþeowes, Mearclanda Þeoden, Freodes Weard

ooc: Actually, they are not yet on the Disc but are en route. Because Scolo has gone away for a few days, I shall finalize their arrival in a bit.

I am currently envolved with the AI conference thread. *sigh* Some support there would be nice))

ooc: Though I will not be there, The Rogue Nation of Boojum (played by me) will be there. It's already on earth, and is probably better for this than mead swilling norsemen.

As we are a struggling space ferring nation, with nearly a hundred artifical satellites in orbit, but yet have not placed a person in space, or constructed a Space Station, we wish to and have plans to but this Alliance intrests us. We may have allied with the GDODAD in the past but be assured that alliance is OVER. If we may not become a full member, we wish to become a Junior Member or Vassal, requesting aid and ideas for our space program, and in return we will donate some form of space warships to defend the intrests of the Triumvirate in the Earth Sphere. we hope to build several refuelingresupply stations, along with shipyard throughout the Earth Sphere and eventually one or two on the Moon, and then expand out into the mars Sphere and then the Aestorid Belt, we have little intrest in the Ring, but we may send some representives if needed, perhaps they can hitch a ride with some of your cargo ships from Earth to the Ring? I know we can offer you little at the current tme, but we can offer you later escort or assistence in war time in the Earth Sphere, and even resupply. Thank you for hearing our offer, and if nothing else, just give us some ideas for spaceships, stations, and where to locate the stations in orbit. In return we'll allow your ships to service at our stations... Thank you and good day.

OOC: IF you allow abu and not me...

OOC: IF you allow abu and not me...

OOC: Hey... I'm not against their Ideals, my freind(which you are OOCly, ICly everyone in your Nation excpet Nemerov can burn in hell mwahahah! but that's IC...) Anyways, I wouldn't mind you in the alliance, I really don't care... in the CAF somehow I find myself working with Bajon for his submersible carrier project thing, we don't mind working with enemies, former allies, or allies who secretly hate us...

bajon is in the Dominion (new name for the reformed GDODAD)...and if you work with him...you must be an ally of it

bajon is in the Dominion (new name for the reformed GDODAD)...and if you work with him...you must be an ally of it

Only by the CAF... but of course he joined the CAF after I did... and the rules are, Anti-Dominion and Pro-Dominion Forces are both allowed to join...

*Ahem*

In order to solidify Eniqcir's new place in the Triumvirate, we will be turning over the battleships Curelom and Pagag to TYCS control, along with their full complement of support vessels and crew.

The multi-purpose vessel Fafnir has also been set aside for the Triumvirate.

And now... A Shameless Plug!

A Cool New Place to Explore (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42188)

And a concurrent organization to the Triumvirate (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41874).

OOC: IF you allow abu and not me...

OOC: Hey... I'm not against their Ideals, my freind(which you are OOCly, ICly everyone in your Nation excpet Nemerov can burn in hell mwahahah! but that's IC...) Anyways, I wouldn't mind you in the alliance, I really don't care... in the CAF somehow I find myself working with Bajon for his submersible carrier project thing, we don't mind working with enemies, former allies, or allies who secretly hate us...

[OOC: Submersible carrier? Grumble. I hate when people steal my ideas. Where's the thread - could I have a link, please? Imma go... well, I don't know. Make a nuisance of myself, ICly, as EOTED would feel the need to do so.]

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IC:

The Empire announces the impending construction of a transport ship in order to move a thus-far undisclosed number of citizens to the World Ring.

~ Ambassador Dejure

Someone get the road crews out, NS roads are BUMPy.

After much thought, and with no small amount of weighing and measuring, the Dominion of the Dread Lady Nathicana has decided to humbly request admission into the austere alliance known as the Triumverate of Yut.

We have been very much impressed with the actions, words, and deeds of its members, and have been the glad beneficiaries of their support and aid in recent times.

Though unsure of what our nation might bring to the table, we nonetheless request our petition be considered, and will hope for the best.

Please know that your decision will in no way effect current or future dealings with the Dominion in any negative way, should our request be at this time denied. We hope that relations will remain cordial in any event, and appreciate the aid given, and friendship offered so freely up to this point.

With sincere respect,

--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion

On behalf of The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands, I hereby voice my support for the Dominion of Dread Lady Nathicana as a Triumvirate of Yut member. I think that should be pretty obvious.

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Marlena Vera Cantrell
Prime Minister
The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands

I definitely agree. While I ain't met the old girl yet, I've heard nothing but good things.

Damn... should've talked to her while she was on the WorldDisc.

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Mark Thomas Biddlebaum
Viceroy
The Free Community of SLAGLand Titan

Nathicana d'Aquisto is a wonderful woman and a role model for the ideals of free treatment of all sentient creatures. I have no doubt in my mind that she has every intention of upholding the Triumvirate of Yut's ideals about treatment of EIs. As such... the Dominion has my support.

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Solomon
Minister of EI Affairs
The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands

Nathi's admission pranking... errr... party will be held outside of Siri's house. I'll bring the TP.

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Bodyguard Barry
The Unblinking Eye of SLAGLandic Security
The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands

I wish to thank the representatives of the SLAGLands for their kind and gracious words and support.

To Marlena - My thanks. And good luck in the upcoming elections.

To Mark Biddlebaum - Truly, you are too kind. I look forward to meeting you as well - and thank you for your support.

To Solomon - I regret that I was unable to attend the event where you and your counterpart were introduced, but I hope to remedy that in the future. I thank you for your support nonetheless, and hope that I might live up to your expectations.

To Barry - Ah, Barry ... you imp. Should it come to pass, I look forward to the pranking ... er, party. *smiles* Again, congratulations on your recent engagement, and good luck as well with the elections.

--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo

"You've got our vote Nathi. Hope to see you sometime soon"
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President Elect Miaca'telcontar
The Principality Of Berserker

Seems to check something off a list
"Yes, excellent, now my plans for world conquest are nearly complete....Err....Just kidding"
He grins
"I think you would make an excellent addition to the Trium."
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Sky Marshall Starwind
Titan Defense Forces

"As head of Berserker foreign relations, I would like to add that polls show a large percentage of our populace who would love to have you join the Triumvirate. We hope the other nations approve as well."

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Maria Peacecraft
Office Of Foreign Affairs

We are with One Voice in Our support of the Nathicani.

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Automata Omicron Blu
Speaker of the Dominion

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Automata X1
First Among Equals

Menelmacar wholeheartedly supports the Nathicani bid for Yut membership.

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Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
High Queen and Lady Protector of Elvenkind
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
~Foreign Minister Duke Paolio, The Outlands
Clicky-clicky! We Love The Iraqi Information Minister (www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com)

After much thought, and with no small amount of weighing and measuring, the Dominion of the Dread Lady Nathicana has decided to humbly request admission into the austere alliance known as the Triumverate of Yut.

We have been very much impressed with the actions, words, and deeds of its members, and have been the glad beneficiaries of their support and aid in recent times.

Though unsure of what our nation might bring to the table, we nonetheless request our petition be considered, and will hope for the best.

Please know that your decision will in no way effect current or future dealings with the Dominion in any negative way, should our request be at this time denied. We hope that relations will remain cordial in any event, and appreciate the aid given, and friendship offered so freely up to this point.

With sincere respect,

--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion

The Empire of The Eternal Dawn states its support for the Nathicani bid.

~ Ambassador Dejure

To the nations and representatives of Berserker, Angelus, Menelmacar, and the Empire of the Eternal Dawn - again, my sincere thanks for your support, even though we have yet to have made formal contact with many of you.

On a more personal note to Omicron Blu and Xanone - we wish to thank you again for the acceptance of our small group of doctors, and hope that they are serving you well aboard the WorldDisc. We also wish to repeat our thanks for the gracious gift of the ships, which we hope to use to expand our presence in space among other peaceful nations.

Sincerely,

--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion

Not to hijack or anything but what does Triumvirate of Yut mean?

"As a presiding member of the First Amond Equals council, it is my austere pleasure to welcome The Dominion of the Dread Lady Nathicana into the folds of the Triumvirate of Yut. The members have spoken, and now, their wish shall be made reality. We look foward to a long and friutful friendship with the Dominion. Again, welcome."

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President-General Xeruyu VonKarma
The Armed Republic of Karmabaijan
Triumvirate of Yut
Titan

(ooc:someone remind scolo to update the frontpage when you see him.)

We of the Dominion are very pleased to have been given such a warm welcome - we extend our thanks to you all.

May the future in this our first, and only alliance, be one of peace, mutual benefit, and longstanding friendship with the nations involved. Again, our thanks for your gracious acceptance into the Triumverate of Yut. We are honored.

--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion

Not to hijack or anything but what does Triumvirate of Yut mean?

Just a name that really only has relavence to me, scolo and Berserker.

Quick question....Is The Seraphim Fleet part of this alliance, and is the region The Federation of Europa part of this? (I noticed Angelus, who currently redsides in Europa) I would just like to know since I now control Seraphim Fleet and thus Europa, and have just established a large space fleet: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51330, I wouldn't want to be stepping on any toes whn I go about claiming chunks of space which I have "acquired" If there is a problem, perhaps I should extend an application to enter the alliance, but only if there is a problem. TG me with a response please, as well as posting here if you wish to do so :P

Quick question....Is The Seraphim Fleet part of this alliance, and is the region The Federation of Europa part of this? (I noticed Angelus, who currently redsides in Europa) I would just like to know since I now control Seraphim Fleet and thus Europa, and have just established a large space fleet: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51330, I wouldn't want to be stepping on any toes whn I go about claiming chunks of space which I have "acquired" If there is a problem, perhaps I should extend an application to enter the alliance, but only if there is a problem. TG me with a response please, as well as posting here if you wish to do so :P

Actually, the Fleet belonged to Angelus, and Admiral Rage went and got his ass killed and lost the fleet. Europa was Angelus', not the Fleet's.

TSF was never a member of the Triumverate, only a semipermanent resident on board the Angelan WorldDisc.

We are currently considering retaking Europa, be advised.

(ooc:someone remind scolo to update the frontpage when you see him.)

(OOC: Already updated. ^_^ )

After much thought, and with no small amount of weighing and measuring, the Dominion of the Dread Lady Nathicana has decided to humbly request admission into the austere alliance known as the Triumverate of Yut.

We have been very much impressed with the actions, words, and deeds of its members, and have been the glad beneficiaries of their support and aid in recent times.

Though unsure of what our nation might bring to the table, we nonetheless request our petition be considered, and will hope for the best.

Please know that your decision will in no way effect current or future dealings with the Dominion in any negative way, should our request be at this time denied. We hope that relations will remain cordial in any event, and appreciate the aid given, and friendship offered so freely up to this point.

With sincere respect,

--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion
(OOC: I go out-of-comms for a weekend, and this is what happens...)

<Communications to Triumvirate of Yut>
{
<< I wholeheartedly support... oh... already accepted. Good job, Shodey. Way to be on the ball.
}

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S.H.O.D.A.N. v3.0 : MCP, Q01

<Communications to Nathi, Personal>
{
<< Welcome to the Trium, Nathi. Must admit, I'm surprised... I didn't think joining a multinational federal government was your style. Still, if we're a corrupting influence for good, this only means that now we can corrupt you even better... [chuckle analog]
}

--Shodey

I, General Hessinger, have been standing alone for awhile now, ever since the Trinue Collapsed, due to lack of leadership in my brother nations. I now look to seek admittance into the Trium so that I may not be alone any longer, or atleast be an associate of the Trium. Go ahead and read my consitution if you would liek to inspect my nation's laws and behavior

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General Rudolf Hessinger
Leader of Commonwealth of the Isles of Wohlstand
Wohlstand Constitution (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=977950#977950)

:tag for webdesign editing:

http://www.silentrequiem.net/triumvirate

:tag for webdesign editing:

http://www.silentrequiem.net/triumvirate

I will agree with this(the whole charter) wholeheartedly

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Speaker of the Dominion
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Automata X1
First Among Equals

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Membership: Triumvirate of Yut, Ur Trade Pact, Zion Pact, SEACTO, DeusExHumanaConsortium

:tag for webdesign editing:

http://www.silentrequiem.net/triumvirate

Thats a really well done site. I like the set up, simplistic and neat, gets the point across.

http://www.silentrequiem.net/triumvirate

Thats a really well done site. I like the set up, simplistic and neat, gets the point across.

ooc: Thank you. I ran into a couple of problems in presenting the site, but I think the end product is quite nice.

Indeed i believe it is a nice site...

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General Rudolf Hessinger
Leader of Commonwealth of the Isles of Wohlstand
Wohlstand Constitution (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=977950#977950)

The SLAGLands support the possibility of some sort of alliance with the Isles of Wohlstand, though we cannot in good conscious support a nation who wishes to join the Triumvirate of Yut just because it seems to be the best alliance.

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Marlena Vera Cantrell
Prime Minister
The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands

Derieties would like to become a member of the triumvurate, but regrettebly can only move a colony to saturn. Is this acceptable, and am i a reasonable candidate for the triumvurate?

Derieties would like to become a member of the triumvurate, but regrettebly can only move a colony to saturn. Is this acceptable, and am i a reasonable candidate for the triumvurate?

You're going to have to give better reasons than that if you desire admission.

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Wololo
Minister of Righteous Diplomatic Smackdown
The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands

We believe Prime Minister Cantrell speaks wisdom. A friendship treaty between us is best for now.

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International Relations Section
Federated Segments of Scolopendra

The SLAGLands support the possibility of some sort of alliance with the Isles of Wohlstand, though we cannot in good conscious support a nation who wishes to join the Triumvirate of Yut just because it seems to be the best alliance.

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Marlena Vera Cantrell
Prime Minister
The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands
Well we are not only a good alliance, but a nation that respects the freedom of all people/sentients/living things

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General Rudolf Hessinger
Leader of Commonwealth of the Isles of Wohlstand
Wohlstand Constitution (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=977950#977950)

"Give it time General Hessinger. We are generally a cautious lot, and as you can understand, it is poor policy to just accept someone into an alliance without having extended diplomatic contact first."
"Perhaps an embassy or diplomats would be a better starting point."
"The Triumvirate is a hefty comittment, and while we appreciate the popularity, we mustn't have countries joining for nefarious reasons or simply because it's trendy."

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Sky Marshal Starwind
Titan Defense Forces

"Give it time General Hessinger. We are generally a cautious lot, and as you can understand, it is poor policy to just accept someone into an alliance without having extended diplomatic contact first."
"Perhaps an embassy or diplomats would be a better starting point."
"The Triumvirate is a hefty comittment, and while we appreciate the popularity, we mustn't have countries joining for nefarious reasons or simply because it's trendy."

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Sky Marshal Starwind
Titan Defense Forces

Indeed, then I shall send out workers to build up embassies in your country, you may also buy any tech i have for discounted prices, since this has happened as well...thats how all diplomatically related countries with Wohlstand get treated...but...

Note:not doing it because it is trendy, its because the Triune fell, and I am looking for another thing similar to it, to support, or be supported by, and also seeking allies, frienship, and etc. because when the Triune of Wohlstand fell, well, I was left in the cold, and still have been since that fateful day

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General Rudolf Hessinger
Leader of Commonwealth of the Isles of Wohlstand
Wohlstand Constitution (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=977950#977950)

OOC: Actually, no can do, recent OOC stuff will not allow it to happen, because well, everyone who is in the chat should know now...

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{We support the application of Our friend and Ally, the Sean Empire.}
{We have had close ties with them for a great length of time, and have served}
{with them in several campaigns.}
{We believe them to be on par with the ethics required of a signatory state.}
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Automata Omicron Blu
Speaker of the Dominion

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Automata X1
First Among Equals

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Membership: Triumverate of Yut, Ur Trade Pact, Zion Pact, SEACTO, DeusExHumanaConsortium

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We support the entry of the Sean Empire into the Triumvirate.

Nathicana pondered her response carefully before answering. Having kept abreast of international happenings, she was concerned to say the least at the recent request.

Sitting down, she composed in silence, pausing only for brief sips of her ice water, brow furrowed.

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To my honorable allies of the Triumvirate of Yut:

As much as I hate to disagree with those who have so graciously supported me, and allowed our people into their midst, I must state for the record that I do not support the entrance of The Sean Empire into the Triumvirate.

Having seen their expansionistic and warlike ways, and their propensity for swift involvment in conflict, I simply cannot in good conscience agree to their inclusion.

If I am amiss in my information, by all means, please enlighten me, and I will take it into consideration to adjust my stance. Until such time as I am convinced otherwise however, my stand holds.

Respectfully,

--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion

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Menelmacar supports the GSED application, as GSED has shown itself ever to be a loyal ally of Menelmacar, and we see no reason not to encourage that alliance to be shared with our partners in Yut.

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Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
High Queen and Lady Protector of Elvenkind
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
~Foreign Minister Duke Paolio, The Outlands
Clicky-clicky! Menelmacari Roleplay Policy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=45012)

I would like to have a colony on a moon of Saturn (Mimas) I would pay a fee to have a crater (Herschel) on said moon left totally alone. I would also like to not become a full member of the Triumvirate, just have the rights to that crater, and the ground beneath it. (Which, by the way, is mostly ice) How does that sound?

OOC: Well, having read the New Fleet thread for Angelus, and noting the time-stamps on your posts, I get the feeling that this may be more of a powerplay for Angelean ships than anything else.
Thu Jul 24, 2003 10:34 am : TSE laments that inability to have nifty new Angelean ships due to lack of Trium membership.
Thu Jul 24, 2003 10:50 am : TSE asks for Trium membership.
I might be wrong, but it does seem suspicious.
Either way, Trium. status is chosen incharacterly, and so i can't really use this.

IC: "We're taking a poll of the the voters in our country as we speak."
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Maria Peacecraft
Office Of Foreign Affairs

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Þa Mearclandas Freodes cuth nit Se Rice Seanes.

Until such a time as we know more of The Sean Empire, we shall vote against their admission to the Triumvirate of Yut, with the understanding that this does not preclude consideration of them in the future.

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Eadwacer, Mearclanda þeoden

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[OOC: Retconned in reply to decision by Drum Gods to simply ignore the war.]

IC:

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The Empire abstains from the vote on the matter of the admittance of GSED due to conflicting circumstances and opinions inside the Empire on this matter.

~ Ambassador Dejure

The Federation of Sentient Peoples would like to request membership in the Triumvirate of Yut.

As before, as the DLRA, we believe we have demonstrated our belief in the ideals of the Triumvirate Charter, as well as being faithful allies of Triumvirate members in the past.

While our name has changed, and many people have died to bring about the Federation, we still hold true to our beginnings, and the commitment of our leadership remains unchanged.

http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/currey.gif Johnathan Currey, Minister, International Relations Directorate
The Federation of Sentient Peoples (http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/)

The Federation of Sentient Peoples would like to request membership in the Triumvirate of Yut.

As before, as the DLRA, we believe we have demonstrated our belief in the ideals of the Triumvirate Charter, as well as being faithful allies of Triumvirate members in the past.

While our name has changed, and many people have died to bring about the Federation, we still hold true to our beginnings, and the commitment of our leadership remains unchanged.

http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/currey.gif Johnathan Currey, Minister, International Relations Directorate
The Federation of Sentient Peoples (http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/)

The Empire, of course, wholeheartedly supports the application by it's long-time loyal ally, the Federation of Sentient Peoples.

~ Ambassador Dejure

I would like to have a colony on a moon of Saturn (Mimas) I would pay a fee to have a crater (Herschel) on said moon left totally alone. I would also like to not become a full member of the Triumvirate, just have the rights to that crater, and the ground beneath it. (Which, by the way, is mostly ice) How does that sound?

Assuming that your request is granted at all, it's unlikely that there would be anything of interest there, considering all the mining going on. A few of the smaller moons have literally been mined out of existance.

Under the above clause in Article 1, and the above statement of intent in Article 1, the Empire of The Eternal Dawn calls on its fellow memberstates to vote on the matter of a military intervention against Drum Gods alongside the current action being taken by the Empire against said nation, due to undue aggression and/or racial slurs and/or attempts to form a speceist coalition for the destruction of our Empire, and for generally anti-Elven goals.

We wish to officially express our support for intervention. A war is best avoided, but perhaps a minimal peacekeeping and inspection force would be appropriate?

(OOC: Is TSE leaving or not?)

The Federation of Sentient Peoples, lately the Dor Lomin Regional Alliance, has been a good friend of the Triumvirate for a long time. Looking over that and their record, I can see no reason to deny them my vote.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/scolopendra/alshai_kommetrez.gifSupreme Emperor Alshai "Bob" Kommetrez
Scolopendran Delegate, Council of Yut
Triumvirate of Yut

I believe that while The Sean Empire has made recent strides toward compassion and peace, its history within organizations such as GDODAD cannot be denied. As far as I'm concerned, I'm going to have to see something a bit more... compassionate and wise out of this nation before I can be convinced that we should allow them into the Triumvirate of Yut.

Sentient Peoples, on the other hand, has my full support.

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Marlena Vera Cantrell
Prime Minister
The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands

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You know, I'm sure the dead of war do not appreciate being referred to as characters within a roleplay...

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Wololo
Minister of Common Sense
The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands


(OOC: Dude... don't respond to an IC post with an OOC one. That's just bad form.)

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Yes, it is Mrs. Cantrell... and no, I'm not sold, nor am I going to be. A commitment to Yut is not one to be taken lightly. While I have faith in your nation's ability to change, I have not seen such change happen. Until it does... consider yourself at a want for my support.

-Mar

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ooc: You do know my nation is lead by an elf right?

(OOC: So?)

The history of the GSED gives us pause, but they appear to be improving. I suggest we offer a friendship treaty to give them the opportunity to prove themselves and that their reform is heart-felt.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/scolopendra/alshai_kommetrez.gifSupreme Emperor Alshai "Bob" Kommetrez
Scolopendran Delegate, Council of Yut
Triumvirate of Yut

{Public diplomatic transmission}
x Marie Liberté (Senior Advisor)
o Triumvirate of Yut, Involved

The Black supports the membership application of the FSP.

The Black opposes the membership application of the GSED.

The Black seconds and commits to support the proposal that the ToY enter into a friendship treaty with the GSED.

{Public diplomatic transmission}
x Marie Liberté (Senior Advisor)
o Triumvirate of Yut, Territory Co-prosperity Sphere, Involved

Some time ago there was discussion of the Territory Co-Prosperity Sphere entire entering the Triumvirate of Yut. At the time, the international situation was volatile, and the general consensus was that this would be inappropriate.

Now the situation has changed, and I am pleased to relay the formal application of the TCPS entire to the Triumvirate.

The TCPS consists of the following nations:

The Territory, the founding nation, created on land granted by the govermnent of Greater Rhodesia to the military corporation Executive Solutions, following the Rhodesian civil war.

Nigeria, gradually becoming closer to the Territory after the Territory aided in the reconstruction after the Libyan nuclear strikes of the late Berber War.

The Black, already a Triumvirate member, founded as the Territory/Nigerian space initiative grew sufficiently to justify nation status. Was allowed to purchase existing off-Earth interests.

Burning Mountain, home to many of the decendants of those members of the Tigra Blanca tribes who moved from the Green Hell areas of Brazil to Nigeria.

Absolute Light, a scientific and industrial colony in very low solar orbit, presently comprising 26 major habitats in a region 4 to 5 million kilometers from the chromosphere and near the North pole.

Negotiations with the Comoros are advanced. The TCPS has major military and industrial interests in the Comoros, and enjoy excellent relations with that nation since the aftermath of the Comoran Tidal Wave Disaster.

All TCPS member nations save Burning Mountain possess explicitly nondiscriminating constitutions, specifically extending nondiscrimination clauses to cover species and order discrimination. Burning Mountain has no formal constitution.

We await the response of the Triumvirate.

The Federation of Scolopendra supports the application of the TCPS as a united one-vote signatory to the Charter.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/scolopendra/alshai_kommetrez.gifSupreme Emperor Alshai "Bob" Kommetrez
Scolopendran Delegate, Council of Yut
Triumvirate of Yut.

{Public diplomatic transmission}
x Marie Liberté (Senior Advisor)
o Triumvirate of Yut, Territory Co-prosperity Sphere, Involved

Some time ago there was discussion of the Territory Co-Prosperity Sphere entire entering the Triumvirate of Yut. At the time, the international situation was volatile, and the general consensus was that this would be inappropriate.

Now the situation has changed, and I am pleased to relay the formal application of the TCPS entire to the Triumvirate.

The TCPS consists of the following nations:

The Territory, the founding nation, created on land granted by the govermnent of Greater Rhodesia to the military corporation Executive Solutions, following the Rhodesian civil war.

Nigeria, gradually becoming closer to the Territory after the Territory aided in the reconstruction after the Libyan nuclear strikes of the late Berber War.

The Black, already a Triumvirate member, founded as the Territory/Nigerian space initiative grew sufficiently to justify nation status. Was allowed to purchase existing off-Earth interests.

Burning Mountain, home to many of the decendants of those members of the Tigra Blanca tribes who moved from the Green Hell areas of Brazil to Nigeria.

Absolute Light, a scientific and industrial colony in very low solar orbit, presently comprising 26 major habitats in a region 4 to 5 million kilometers from the chromosphere and near the North pole.

Negotiations with the Comoros are advanced. The TCPS has major military and industrial interests in the Comoros, and enjoy excellent relations with that nation since the aftermath of the Comoran Tidal Wave Disaster.

All TCPS member nations save Burning Mountain possess explicitly nondiscriminating constitutions, specifically extending nondiscrimination clauses to cover species and order discrimination. Burning Mountain has no formal constitution.

We await the response of the Triumvirate.

The Empire of The Eternal Dawn extends its whole-hearted support in this matter to its eternal ally, the Territory Co-Prosperity Sphere.

~ Ambassador Dejure

We support Emperator Kommetrez' motion for allowing the TCPS to be a single vote signatory state, and thusly second it.

On behalf of The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands, I wholeheartedly support the Territory Co-Prosperity Sphere's application to the Triumvirate of Yut.

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Marlena Vera Cantrell
Prime Minister
The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands

In other matters, an amendment has been suggested by Freod concerning military usage.

AMENDMENT IS TO READ:

The Triumvirate is not required to participate in any aggressive military action started unilaterally by any single member or group for member. This is to prevent the Triumvirate from being dragged into a war in the interest of a single nation.

Furthermore, any ongoing non-mutual defense military action can be immediately ceased if a majority of the Triumvirate votes to end it.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/scolopendra/jon_hertzfeldt.gifPseudoEmperor Jon Hertzfeldt
Temporary Scolopendran Delegate, Council of Yut
Triumvirate of Yut

VOTE:
[ ] Yea, make it an amendment
[ ] Nay, throw it out
[ ] How about this (suggest modification)

Yea, both for the ammendment, and the application of Territory.

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Maria Peacecraft
Office Of Foreign Affairs

Territory and SP have been added to the charter, seeing how objections are scarce.

--Scolo

NCADK would wish to forum some sort of alliance with ToY, as we have several allies in the alliance. We feel the need to affirm the relationship between ToY and NCADK. Yes we have a tarnished past, yet we are willing to take steps to get over that past although it shall haunt us. We hope this is the first step to NCADK membership.

We would also put forward a vote to accept the ammendment as it has been presented.

s for the recent applications, we defer to those members' judgements who have more knowledge of these nations than we, and will respect and support their decision on the matter.

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--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion

We are grateful to be accepted into this organization. We will do are best to live up to the ideals of the organization.

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D'ron Christopher Smith, Imperial President
The Federation of Sentient Peoples (http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/)
Federation Roleplay Policy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55186)



Also, would be it permissable for us to establish a colony on the Ring?

http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/currey.gif Johnathan Currey, Minister, International Relations Directorate
The Federation of Sentient Peoples (http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/)
Federation Roleplay Policy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55186)

[OOC: As in a puppet nation, like SLAG's?]

VOTE:
[X] Yea, make it an amendment
[ ] Nay, throw it out
[ ] How about this (suggest modification)

As for NCADK. Perhaps a treaty of non-aggression can be signed, nothing more.

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Now, there's no need to question loyalties at the moment. Consider the friendship treaty to be a... phase-in to potential membership. The standard Yut friendship treaty covers non-aggression, free trade, and observer status in the Council. Interested?

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/scolopendra/jon_hertzfeldt.gifPseudoEmperor Jon Hertzfeldt
Executive Officer
Federated Segments of Scolopendra

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(OOC: I'll write something up later when I'm less tired.)

Yea to the amendment.

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Eadwacer, Mearclanda Þeoden

OOC: Odd, don't recall proposing that . . . I proposed another which disappeared though and will resubmit it later.

Yea to the amendment.

Aye for the amendment. We don't do your damned "yea" thing in The SLAGLands.

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Mark Thomas Biddlebaum
Viceroy
The Free Community of SLAGLand Titan

Scolopendra, having put forward the amendment, supports it.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/scolopendra/jon_hertzfeldt.gifPseudoEmperor Jon Hertzfeldt
Acting Scolopendran Delegate, Council of Yut
Triumvirate of Yut

Amendment Status
Votes for: 7
Berserker
Dread Lady Nathicana
Angelus
Freod
Eniqcir
The SLAGLands
Scolopendra

Votes against: 0
none

Members (at time of suggestion): 14
Votes needed to pass (2/3 majority): 9

(OOC: I'm going to avoid puppeteering because it's just cheap.)

EOTED votes "Yea," of course.

~ Ambassador Unratti, temporary TofY representative

* * *

The Empire notes that it did not vote against GSED integration into the Triumvirate, but abstained due to a conflict of interest, of sorts. There is no question of 'loyalty'.

~ Ambassador Unratti, temporary TofY representative

[OOC: Unratti is rep while Dejure deals with spacedy-ants over in the dig thread.]

Hurrah...I mean, yea for the amendment.

~Gregor

ooc: Nine needed, nine achieved.

Angelus will consider the amendment passed.

The people of AMF are soon departing Earth for good. All (nearly) 700 million people will be paking their bags, and heading out. Our territory will be given to trusted allies on Earth, along with all of our naval fleets, tanks, planes, and any other Earthly weapons. We are currently constructing 2 "Wendigo" class super carriers to help transport our citizens:

http://invisionfree.com/forums/WMNK_Coalition/index.php?s=bfbba6fc5e8d728594479c4c9f1245a6&act=Attach&type=post&id=3356
http://invisionfree.com/forums/WMNK_Coalition/index.php?s=bfbba6fc5e8d728594479c4c9f1245a6&act=Attach&type=post&id=3355
(OOC: These ship designs are sole property of ME, and they are copyrighted)

We are requesting to be relocated to Titan, where our people can finally be rid of the wasteland called Earth. We eargerly await response.



President Kaye
-President of Automagfreek-
-Commander in Chief of AMF Military-
-Founder of the WMNK Coalition-
-Co-Founder of The Commonwealth of Nations-
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/automagfreek.jpg

We support the acceptance of Autmagfreek as a signatory nation within the Triumvirate.

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http://www.silentrequiem.net/littleblu.jpg (http://www.silentrequiem.net/angelus)
Automata Omicron Blu
Speaker of the Dominion

Thank you Angelus. I await other responses.

Is the nation of Automagfreek requesting ring space or full membership into the Trium?

Either way, you have our support.

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Mark Thomas Biddlebaum
Viceroy
The Free Community of SLAGLand Titan

Is the nation of Automagfreek requesting ring space or full membership into the Trium?

Either way, you have our support.


Um....both if possible.

The TCPS APPROVES of the proposed amendment.

The TCPS is for the moment divided as to acceptance of Automagfreek. Perhaps that nation could provide further information on the mission of the WMNK Coalition, or is it no longer a member?

Furthermore, perhaps that nation could enlighten us on the reasoning behind choosing to market massively potent first-strike weapons such as the HOUND, no matter how dubious the propaganda regarding the defense penetration capability of HOUND-series weapons is?

The TCPS APPROVES of the proposed amendment.

The TCPS is for the moment divided as to acceptance of Automagfreek. Perhaps that nation could provide further information on the mission of the WMNK Coalition, or is it no longer a member?

Furthermore, perhaps that nation could enlighten us on the reasoning behind choosing to market massively potent first-strike weapons such as the HOUND, no matter how dubious the propaganda regarding the defense penetration capability of HOUND-series weapons is?

The WMNK is defunct, and has evolved into a pro-peace alliance, "Coalition Against War".

As for the HOUND, it is in no way a "first strike" weapon, it is more of a deterrent (and deter it does). We are careful as to who we sell HOUNDS to, but recently sales of that weapon have been indefinatly halted.

Having seen efforts on their behalf to move towards more elevated goals for some time now, I see no reason at this time not to support their membership.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/nathicana/nath_closeup.jpg
--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion

The Federation declines to vote on the amendment, seeing as how the nine votes are achieved, and it is fairly sure of the underlying motives.

The Federation also sees no reason not to grant Ring space to AMF, but again declines to say yea or nay in the matter of Trium membership, due to its own new status.

http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/currey.gif Johnathan Currey, Minister, International Relations Directorate
The Federation of Sentient Peoples (http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/)
Federation Roleplay Policy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55186)

On account of Automagfreek either flat-out lying in the Triumvirate's face or showing catastrophic incompetence with regard to understanding the weapons they sell, the TCPS OPPOSES that nation's entry.

On account of Automagfreek either flat-out lying in the Triumvirate's face or showing catastrophic incompetence with regard to understanding the weapons they sell, the TCPS OPPOSES that nation's entry.

Neither accusations are true. And the insult isn't appreciated either.

Cetaganda also opposes the entry of AMF on the same grounds as TCPS does.

~Lord Theodore Alton
First Speaker, State Directorate
Cetagandan Empire

The Federation examines the HOUND it bought, and compares it to AMF official statements. They do no match. The HOUND is a convential war deterrent, as any country foolish enough to attack one with HOUNDs leads a short life.

The Federation withdraws its approval of Ring space for AMF. Lying and getting caught is bad form.

http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/currey.gif Johnathan Currey, Minister, International Relations Directorate
The Federation of Sentient Peoples (http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/)
Federation Roleplay Policy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55186)

If this sort of unjustifed lies and paranoia is a reflection of the Triumvirate, maybe we'd better reconsider joining.

We understand that the Triumvirate is busy protecting and keeping the peace of the Solar System, yet we were wondering, how is the progression of some form of treaty being formed between NCADK and ToY? Thank you for your time.

"I think the confusion revolves around this HOUND's system you apparently produce. Please, tell us plain and simple what this system is intended for. I believe some of the others fear that this weapon may be used as a hefty first-strike weapon by some of those who purchase it."

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Maria Peacecraft
Office Of Foreign Affairs

HOUND V2 thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55578)

Last sentence in the first paragraph:

Just when you thought we couldn't make a bigger weapon, think again. Cyberdyne Systems, AMF's top military R&D and production corporation, has released this newest weapon that puts the original HOUND out to pasture. This newest weapon adds to AMF's nuclear arsenal, as it's #1 deterrent.


The HOUND was designed to do 1 thing: make nuclear war unthinkable, because if they knew that if they launch warheads at me, or any ally of mine, HOUNDS would be coming at them. And so far, it's worked pretty well. HOUNDS have deterred several potential nuclear holocausts, and has put potential aggressors at bay. The HOUND has yet to be used in a truly destructive role.

Johnathan Currey nods at Ms. Peacecraft's statement.

Look, if my presence will bring mistrust and doubt, then maybe I better reconsider. Obviously, past grudes are prohibiting me from joining, but oh well.


BTW, things have changed in AMF. http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51411&highlight=

"I believe we can support movement to the Ring for the time being.
However, we would like that you cease production of such dreadful weapons, as you would have no need for them on the Ring, and destroying the Ring with you on it would be a poor idea.
You would be protected on the Ring, as is any other nation, as long as you do not bring about an outside attack by offensive means."

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Maria Peacecraft
Office Of Foreign Affairs

"I believe we can support movement to the Ring for the time being.
However, we would like that you cease production of such dreadful weapons, as you would have no need for them on the Ring, and destroying the Ring with you on it would be a poor idea.
You would be protected on the Ring, as is any other nation, as long as you do not bring about an outside attack by offensive means."



Thanks for the offer, but if there is too much controversy and sour feelings behind me being there, maybe I'd better find my own planet. I never intended to bring these weapons to Titan in the first place, they were only going to be on my flagship, which would not even be near Titan.

Don't be too hasty, some of the major players aren't on tonight, check back later.

Our primary concern are the HOUND weapons, and more importantly the fact that your nation has been selling them to people. How can you be sure they won't be used for first strike purposes?

Our primary concern are the HOUND weapons, and more importantly the fact that your nation has been selling them to people. How can you be sure they won't be used for first strike purposes?

By me? They won't. By somebody else? They won't, or else Skynet glassifies the person who does. Everybody that has purchased a HOUND knows the consequences of a first strike.

On behalf of The SLAGLands, I would like to point out that the army of Automagfreek doesn't release the HOUNDs (OOC: Smithers, release the HOUNDs...) except as a last resort. In addition, sale of the HOUNDs has been halted temporarily, as President Kaye pointed out.

In addition, if what concerns my fellow ToY delegates is the potential for a first-strike affair in which Automagfreek attacks a foreign power, our new amendment states that we are not obligated to assist in this matter.

Please take this into account before entirely condemning our allies.

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Mark Thomas Biddlebaum
Viceroy
The Free Community of SLAGLand Titan

We concur. Though We support the admittance of AMF into the Triumvirate, We also support the dismantling of the HOUNDS, and AMF being put on a probationary period where limited (if any) technology advancement is purchasable from ToY signatories.

AMF, the HOUNDs are not needed in Triumvirate space. The TYCS does a damn fine job of protecting us, and not having HOUNDS about would make quite a few of us breathe a sigh of relief.

---
http://www.silentrequiem.net/littleblu.jpg (http://www.silentrequiem.net/angelus)
Automata Omicron Blu
Speaker of the Dominion

Angelus, TM.

Concerning treaties

We offer our standard friendship treaty, which reads:

TREATY OF FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN THE TRIUMVIRATE OF YUT AND [insert nation name here]

Article 0 [Overview]: This treaty affirms a state of peace and friendship between the Triumvirate of Yut and [$NAME], and the dedication of these two parties to the continuation of such a state of affairs.

Article 1 [Mutual Support]: The two parties of this treaty shall provide diplomatic and military support to the other on a voluntary basis.

Article 2 [Nonaggression]: The two parties of this treaty will take no hostile action against the other.

Article 3 [Free Trade]: The Triumvirate of Yut extends its policy of free trade to [$NAME], and [$NAME] will extend the same policy to the Triumvirate of Yut.

Article 4 [Amendment]: This treaty may be amended as requested by either signatory. The agreement will be rewritten and be re-signed once a suitable consensus has been made. The agreement will remain in effect until amended again or one of the parties employs Article 5 [Escape Clause].

Article 5 [Escape Clause]: This treaty is null and void if any of the above articles are violated or at the request of either signatory nation.

_signage goes here_

***

Concerning Amendments

The amendment "Limitation of Aggression" has passed. The Charter has been updated to reflect this.

***

Concerning Automagfreek

President Kaye, the problem with arguing the HOUND as a deterrent is that deterrence only works if the will to use it is applied. Also, given NS Earth history, a great many nations couldn't spell "deterrence" if they were fronted eight letters, much less understand the concept. Even if SkyNet would theoretically punish (not prevent) any HOUND first-strike, all systems have drawbacks.

We mean not to offend your honor or question your motives; we merely believed you may have miscalculated the situation. We all make such mistakes at times. We are more concerned at your immediate offense to debate more than anything else; debate and the attempt to come to consensus is what makes us strong and unique.

That being said, I thought up some ideas over lunch that might help: First, continue the moratorium on HOUND sales until we can determine an appropriate course of action. Second, surrender command of a majority of HOUND weapon systems to a TYCS strategic reserve. Just some thoughts. The Trium does not like the idea of selling strategic weapons of mass destruction to third parties as it is extremely difficult to ensure their proper usage.

Finally, we agree with the Dread Lady and The SLAGLands and applaud you on your move towards a less aggressive stance. We look favorably on Automagfreek's acceptance into the Trium but withhold our support for now pending a consensus and compromise on the HOUND issue.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/scolopendra/jon_hertzfeldt.gifPseudoEmperor Jon Hertzfeldt
Acting Scolopendran Delegate, Council of Yut
Triumvirate of Yut

If it is acceptable, although we already have a mutual defence treaty with Scolopendra, we would like to sign the Treaty of friendship with the Entire Triumvirate of Yut to make the said matter more formal, and open larger ties with the organisation.

Farseer Council

The Federation sees no reason not to support this request from the Farseer Council.

http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/currey.gif Johnathan Currey, Minister, International Relations Directorate
The Federation of Sentient Peoples (http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/)
Federation Roleplay Policy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55186)

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The Federation sees no reason not to support a friendship treaty with GSED either.

http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/currey.gif Johnathan Currey, Minister, International Relations Directorate
The Federation of Sentient Peoples (http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/)
Federation Roleplay Policy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55186)

At this time, we also forsee no problems in entering into friendship treaties with both Tor Yvresse and TSE, considering what such a treaty entails - thank you to the honorable Jon Hertzfeldt of Scolopendra for laying it out so clearly in your missive.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/nathicana/nath_closeup.jpg
--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion

Reaven clicked off the TV in disgust.

"Sweet Christ.. These Elf loving hippies get worse every day. And to think, I actually went to one of their parties once." He shakes his head, as his girlfriend's eye peers over the top of the newspaper she was holding.

"Really? When?"

Reaven leaned back and shook his head. "Not too long before the goddamn dogs shot down the Narg actually." He spit on the nearest likeness of vonKarma, which was convieniently on the cover of a magazine on the coffee table. "I just wish there was something we could do about it, you know?. They sit up there in their goddamn Ivory tower, caring nothing for the troubles of others. They relentlessly stick their noses in places it doesn't belong, and worse, they claimed to be 'neutral' in our struggle with the Noldor, and now they're kissing the Elves' asses like there's no tomorrow."

Shireen [that was her name] set down the paper and thought for a moment, her legs withdrawing to the relative warmth of the couch, crossed indian style. She looked at Reaven with a lifted brow. "Maybe there is something we can do."

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"Maybe there is something we can do."

ooc: :shock: You know, if I officially knew about this, I'd be a touch ... well, concerned to say the least right about now, all things considered.

"Maybe there is something we can do."

OOC: Good thing Shodey has Sierra Foxtrot One safely hidden away....

We would also like to sign the Freindship Treaty.

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--Iatoni Breznakov, Chairman of NCADK, President of Abu-Khrista

Having searched long and hard for reasons to not accept ADK as a friend, and finding none, the Federation also approves of a Friendship Treaty with ADK.

http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/currey.gif Johnathan Currey, Minister, International Relations Directorate
The Federation of Sentient Peoples (http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/)
Federation Roleplay Policy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55186)

OOC: Well if it wasn't for someone's genocidal policies. Melkor.
Not caring for the little people...look who talking, you're the one trying to kill everyone.

OOC: Well if it wasn't for someone's genocidal policies...


OOC: Hey, alright listen. All use of WMD has been in response to use of WMD agaisnt us. The Russians and allies declared a genocidal war against us FIRST. In the Ukraine conflict 1 million Romanians were killed by VX and other chjemical weapons used by Russia and company. We responded. In the current conflict, we were threatened with WMD, we counter-threatened. And it went on until Imperial Forces killed 25 million of our people with a sonic weapon. We responded with 6 nuclear weapons killing only 1/5th of Khristians killed. In a war against Islamic Ummah, their ally Diwaniyah used Biological weapons against us. We responded with 2 nuclear weapons, they responded with more, and we responded with more. In total ove 50 million Khristians were killed in the conflict. Throughout the years About 85 million Khritstians have been kileld by WMD, and we never fired the first shot.

Concerning Automagfreek

President Kaye, the problem with arguing the HOUND as a deterrent is that deterrence only works if the will to use it is applied. Also, given NS Earth history, a great many nations couldn't spell "deterrence" if they were fronted eight letters, much less understand the concept. Even if SkyNet would theoretically punish (not prevent) any HOUND first-strike, all systems have drawbacks.

We mean not to offend your honor or question your motives; we merely believed you may have miscalculated the situation. We all make such mistakes at times. We are more concerned at your immediate offense to debate more than anything else; debate and the attempt to come to consensus is what makes us strong and unique.

That being said, I thought up some ideas over lunch that might help: First, continue the moratorium on HOUND sales until we can determine an appropriate course of action. Second, surrender command of a majority of HOUND weapon systems to a TYCS strategic reserve. Just some thoughts. The Trium does not like the idea of selling strategic weapons of mass destruction to third parties as it is extremely difficult to ensure their proper usage.

Finally, we agree with the Dread Lady and The SLAGLands and applaud you on your move towards a less aggressive stance. We look favorably on Automagfreek's acceptance into the Trium but withhold our support for now pending a consensus and compromise on the HOUND issue.


Thanks for the offer, but no thanks. Me and several others are colonizing the planets of Ursa Major, so I respectfully withdraw my applications. And it is not debate that I take offense to, it is the questioning of A) my motives and B) questioning my intelligence when it comes to my weapons. Without such powerful and deterring weapons, we feel more vulnerable to those that seek to destory us (basically, we're at the top of GDODAD's hit list). I know SLAG knows that things have changed, and first strikes are out of the question. But, seeing as we've established a new homeland, this is all water under the bridge. Thank you for the gesture, and good day.

The Empire, although somewhat late in stating thus, most definitley opposes the AMF entry-bid. Our reasons are our own.

~ Ambassador Dejure, via LSR link

To honorable and respected members of the Triumvirate of Yut:

It is with deep displeasure that I must bring to your attention a matter of concern to the Dominion, involving a nation, nay an Empire with whom you had previously signed a friendship clause with.

I speak of the EODS. I know many of you are aware that I have had less than cordial relations with them, however, this is not an unfounded accusation. I have proof (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1105313#1105313), from their own public admissions, that they have been carrying on covert operations within my borders, have worked to incite civil unrest, and have plotted with unnamed operatives to overthrow the current leadership, namely, myself.

With this in mind, I ask you to consider revoking said agreement with the EODS. Though I was not a member at the time, I have been for the duration these activities have gone on. The EODS has shown themselves to be in clear violation of the treaty, and as such, should face the consequences of their actions.

For my own part, I am currently addressing the issue with their interrim Emperor, Vortex's son Sterling. Our last contact was less than cordial. I'm not sure what to expect this time. However, I will be demanding they make reparrations for crimes against myself and my government.

As for the rest here, I leave the decision to you, my fellow members.

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--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion

We wish to voice Our support of the Dread Lady's request to discontinue relations with EODS. As you all well know, relations between Angelus and said "empire" have been highly strained at best, and thus it would cause no undue hardship among Us to see the Triumvirate sever relations with them.

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Automata Omicron Blu
Speaker of the Dominion

<Communications to Triumvirate Heads of State, Quantum Entanglement, MAX ENCRYPT>
{
<< Aw, but we should extort him for all he's worth first. Let's see how reparations go, maybe use our pull-out as a bargaining chip to raise the price.
}

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S.H.O.D.A.N. v3.0 : MCP, Q01
Wife to Bodyguard Barry
Cetagandan Duchess of Marilac

(OOC: This has been a Really Really Super Duper Classified Ultra-Tight Security transmission. You never saw it.)

We wish to voice Our support of the Dread Lady's request to discontinue relations with EODS. As you all well know, relations between Angelus and said "empire" have been highly strained at best, and thus it would cause no undue hardship among Us to see the Triumvirate sever relations with them.

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Automata Omicron Blu
Speaker of the Dominion

The Empire also supports such action. We do not see how a friendship treaty could be considered tenable when the 'empire' with which when the spirit of said friendship treaty is all but breached by that empire.

~ Ambassador Nejure

The Dominion of Sketch wishes to petition for a Treaty of Friendship between the Triumvirate of Yut and the Imperium. While our interactions in the past have been limited, we feel that a treaty solidfying our relations will be mutually beneficial to all parties involved.

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Das Sketch
Head of the Council of Nine
Ruler of the Imperium

"I would encorage patience on this issue. My father made mistakes, I am fixing them. You will see this, in time."

Emperor Sterling Vortex,
The Empire of Draconic States Website (http://www.freewebs.com/vortex79/index.htm)
(A puppetless Region, Certified by Scolo der Game Mod)
EODS DEFCON LEVEL: 5 (Bored.)
National Anthem: Roll Tide - Nightwish
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/dragonisia.jpg

We would wish to stregthen our ties with the Triumvirate of Yut by becoming a member. Currently, our space force isn't much but within three or four years it will be somewhat formidable. We understand if our membership is declined. If it is declined we shall reapply at a later time.

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--Theta, Defense Minister of NCADK, President of Afganistan, Head of Central Asian Prefacture

(OOC: Patience is a virtue, Karma is out, Angelus is having forum troubles, etc. etc. etc.

*grumbles and starts cleaning up the spam*)

To my honorable and esteemed collegues, greeting.

As you are aware, recent events had prompted me to request a withdrawl of the Triumvirate from the friendship agreement with the EODS. The new Emperor, Sterling Vortex, requested your patience as we met to work out some details.

The transcript of the meeting, (begining with the pertinent pages) can be found here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57133&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40). Diplomatic Officer Marie bin Hassan of Scolopendra, Minister Wololo of the SLAGLands, and Maria Peacecraft of Berserker can personally attest to the validity and truthfulness of the proceedings.

With your approval, the friendship agreement will be considered null and void for the duration of a probationary period wherein the EODS will be carefully monitored and judged. If at the end of this period, it is deemed that their words and actions warrant it, as I have sworn, I will support the reinstatement of the treaty. I await your approval.

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--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion

The Empire of The Eternal Dawn no longer feels it can uphold the fullness of the Charter, and therefore withdraws from the Triumvirate of Yut effective immediatley - but does offer to pursue diplomatic relationships with either each member-state individually (preferable) and/or with the Triumvirate as a whole.

~ Ambassador Nejure

We understand. I suppose you'd be wanting to sign a friendship treaty, then?

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/scolopendra/jon_hertzfeldt.gifPseudoEmperor Jon Hertzfeldt
Executive Officer
Federated Segments of Scolopendra

ALTIMIT Broadcaster
Encryption: Off
Broadcast type: Government/diplomatic
Return transmission band: Open
IDENT: Firefury Amahira - Reploid Productions

Members of the Triumvirate of Yut,

Queen Firefury Amahira of the Shogunate of Reploid Productions speaking. At this time, we are nearly ready to launch our first space cruiser, the Archangel class 'Zeroel'. Coinciding with this massive step forward, I wish to apply for membership in the Triumvirate, through a colony nation. We already have roughly 5 million volunteers from the ranks of RPRA Techcorp's employees and their families who would be willing to make the move. (And, truth be told, RPRA Techcorp CEO Akkard Grey is rather hoping to establish his business further, and set up a branch office on the WorldDisc, if possible.)

While the Shogunate does maintain a moderate standing military, it has been a non-agressive nation since its establishment following the downfall of the Nekoite Empire. We have absolutely no WMDs, nor any intentions of creating, purchasing, or otherwise acquiring such dishonorable weapons.

Thank you for your consideration,

~Queen Firefury Amahira
~Shogunate of Reploid Productions

<End Transmission>

EDIT: ((OOC: The Archangel's launch date is gonna be August 15th, so I figured I'd post this and give you guys enough time to do your debating thing ^_~))

(OOC: ....debating? What's... that?)

On behalf of The SLAGLands, I am pleased to announce my wholehearted support for the application of The Shogunate of Reploid Productions.

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Mark Thomas Biddlebaum
Viceroy
The Free Community of SLAGLand Titan

###BEGIN TRANSMISSION###
~>Route: Automata AK1 - Angelus Mainframe -
:
{On behalf of the Federated Segments of Scolopendra, I vote to accept Reploid}
{Productions' application as soon as possible. They will be an honorable addition}
{to the Triumvirate.}
:
~>Route closed
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Automata Alshai Kommetrez
Supreme Emperor of the Federated Segments of Scolopendra
Scolopendra Delegate, Council of Yut

The Dominion wishes to voice their support for the inclusion of the Shogunate of Reploid Productions into the Triumvirate of Yut. Though not having established personal connections as yet, their reputation preceeds them. To have them counted an ally would be an honor.

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--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion

{Secure Yutlink Transmission}
x Emperor Gregor Vetinari (Cetagandan Empire)
o Members

Cetaganda fully supports the entry of Reploid Productions into the Triumvirate.

Eniqcir also supports the entry of Reploid Productions into the Triumvirate.

The Federation give Reploid Productions a thumbs up for entry into the Triumvirate.

http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/currey.gif Johnathan Currey, Minister, International Relations Directorate
The Federation of Sentient Peoples (http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/)
Federation Roleplay Policy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55186)

*****

"Oh, come on, 'nathan. Did you have to phrase it that way?"

"Yes, Mr. President, I did."

(OOC: While I'm logged in as, I suppose...)

<Communications to the Council of Yut>
{
<< I and the mechanoids of the Queendom fully support Reploid's entry into the Triumvirate. They will be most profitable trading partners and will expand our economic reach a great deal.
}

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S.H.O.D.A.N. v3.0 : MCP, Q01
Zero-One Delegate, Council of Yut
Wife to Bodyguard Barry
Cetagandan Duchess of Marilac

"First, we would like to approve of Reploid Production's joining the Trium."

"Second, we would like to extend our own "diplomatice feelers" to Sketch and Abu-Dhabi Khristatata, in order to better assess their bids for Triumvirate membership."

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Maria Peacecraft
Office Of Foreign Affairs

The Khenalian High Council has voted to use Khenala's vote to approve entry for Reploid Productions, based on their satisfactory international standing.

Prime Minister Andrew Seal
Empire of Khenala

We understand. I suppose you'd be wanting to sign a friendship treaty, then?

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/scolopendra/jon_hertzfeldt.gifPseudoEmperor Jon Hertzfeldt
Executive Officer
Federated Segments of Scolopendra

Yes, indeed. Perhaps the day will come when we find ourselves in a better, more comfortable place - and if that day comes, we will strive to regain our position in the Triumvirate. Until that day, if it ever comes, we would be honoured to sign a friendship treaty with the great Triumvirate of Yut.

~ Ambassador Nejure

Outstanding. Consider it done.

--Kommetrez the bionikmensch.

***

Dear Scolopendra of the Triumvirate of Yut,

As you may know from our recent correspondence, I am Chancellor Victor Firestorm of Ruhr and the Head of Diplomacy for NATO. I wanted to bring a matter to your attention, one of the utmost importance: an alliance with NATO.

The recent spring of vampire nations has brought our eyes to a perplexing problem, the extension of the treaty to protection of all races. Our tolerance of these new races, or undead as some preferred to be called, is reaching a challenging state where we have no idea of which side to take. After taking a look at our population specifications and divisions among races and species, we will accept them into our ranks.

I am speaking of the Vampire races. A surprising amount of July-Created nations have become known as vampire states, and these countries are under threat by many older, purely human nations. These nations, now under the name of the Reichskampfen, have declared their hatred towards nations with this undead, and their military might is more than unnerving. One of our own nations, Haraki, has a known vampiric populus; due to this, Reichskampfen has declared their severed ties with said nation and have threatened utter destruction and genocide.

I fear that this behaviour will not stop at vampires, but eventually become directed to dragons, orcs, and elves. Already an alliance has been formed, the Adra Alliance, against Elven nations who continue anti-human campaigns. A smaller nation, who shall remain anonymous due to his poor behaviour, has set up a plan that will eventually bring every species to a great war. These racist and purist groups must be stopped, or intimidated.

You, Scolopendra, have organized a very respectable alliance. You have taken the duty to ensure that peaceful nations combine, and in times of dire need congregate to fight off your opponent. You have managed to keep the Triumvirate of Yut as peaceful as possible, so I ask you to join in alliance with NATO, to prevent further oppression of races and right the facts. I ask you to extend your care to the other species of the world, and that you help NATO in protecting the morals of nations.

_________________________________________
Sincerely,
Victor Firestorm
Chancellor of the Ruhrian Parlaiment
Head Of Diplomacy for NATO
Joint Chief of Staff for The Great Plain Alliance
Member of PACT
Member of the Ur Trade Pact
Member of the CAF
Member of the Allied Powers
Founder of the Black Diamond Initiative

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"We are sorry for our long absence. I had classified business to take care of, so I gave all government workers 5 days off. We are back and wish to know the progression of the friendship treaty."

~ Emperor Finrod Telrúnya
Head of GSED
Head of Elven Party
*hands over a signed copy* Sign here and you're in like gangbusters.

--random Diplomatic Officer

...Updated next post...

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LordSquallFreeRepublic (LSFR) would be very honored to join the Triumvirate of Yut.

_"The charter of the Triumvirate of Yut is between my hands, I'm holding a blue pencil, as I use to hold this one to sign very important treaties/charters including my entire nation and its future.
The paper is large, i've been reading it again and again for the whole week, and then i've decided, after a democratic vote by my citizens...

[results : Should our President Saman'thä Gelëan sign the Charter of the Triumvirate of Yut ?
[
[YES : 89.4 %
[NO : 3.7 %
[INDECISE : 6.8 %
[Suicides, vacations, murdered, absent, disapeared : 0.1 %
[DECIDED : YES, by first and universal MAJORITY

...to make my ministry of defence print the charter, and depose it on my desk.
The pencil is still on the paper sheets, everything is quite arround, the General of Space defense is shaking, I'm zen, we are all waiting for an answer phone/visio-conferent call from the “first among equals” for the request I've just sent.
The room is very clear, the whole of my proach ministry is here :
Jän' tell' Köh, Head of the LSFR Engineers Department
Dr Letkä LäyNo, Head of LSFR Sciences Department
General Lefëth' thä, General of the Space Defense of LSFR
Julian Jecktö, president of PetitLapin
Dr Lehaïa Lotö 'n, head of PetitLapin Sciences department
Lehän I 'n, Federal President of BlackEagle Corporation
Kätie Latkö, presentator of LSN News (a friend implicated in some republican affairs, here to make an article on this great day)


Do I sign ?


Wishing an answer,

Saman' Thä Gelëan
President and General
of LordSquallFreeRepublic
approved by the department of
LSFR territorial and space defense
http://www.btinternet.com/~biblio_phile/team_as_family/maj_samantha_carter.jpg
...:::'C.A.G.E.D':::... (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18128)
...:::'AWN Alliance's n.s thread':::... (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=628616#628616/)
...:::'LordSquallFreeRepublic Official Website':::... (http://emeraldsword.ifrance.com/emeraldsword/)
...:::'Alert level AMBER : state of war declared in LSFR:::...
...:::'Council of the C.A.G.E.D against GODMODING actions':::...
...:::'Member of the N.a.S.T.O for the respect of RolePlaying':::...
...:::'Member of the REBEL ALLIANCE to restore the REPUBLIC':::...
...:::'Defense General, Military Technology Head of AWN ALLIANCE':::...
...:::'LordSquallFreeRepublic is the official Co-Head of AWN ALLIANCE':::...
.:'Our work in foreign nations is Crimson Sparta (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43966&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) who thanked us giving our name to their L.S.G.O.H (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46058&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) and our own works in Telüfeth (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44652&highlight=) and ecological studes (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46227&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)':.

I cannot help but notice that there has been a rush on membership requests and friendship treaties of late. That being said, I have some concerns.

This is not an alliance to take lightly, as so many others seem to be. This is a respected group with high standards and ideals, not a social club. I say this on account of the recent flood, it would seem, of applications and wishes to be more closely associated in some way with the Triumvirate. Though I do not wish to be disparaging of anyone in particular, the chain of events would seem to lend creedence to the idea of a 'popularity contest' of sorts. Please do not take this as anything but an overall concern, and perhaps a possible guidepost for future applicants.

To those seriously considering, I say this:

Read the Charter carefully. Look to your own past and present actions, and balance that against the the Charter and your own willingness and ability to adhere to its principles. Know your prospective allies. Interact with them for a while before requesting membership. Give serious thought to your reasons for wishing to join.

Now ... to the President of Lord Squall. First and foremost, I am not as familiar with your nation as I would like, and thus cannot present a positive vote with any sense of confidence due to what bits I have seen thus far. However, your presentation came across, to me at least, as a bit ... presumptuous. May I respectfully remind you - you are doing the requesting, not the other way around.

Until such time as I can develop a more positive impression, I will unfortunately have to place a tentative 'no' on your application. I however, am but one, and by no stretch the loudest vote here. The Dominion bears you no ill will, and wishes you success in your endeavors nonetheless.

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--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion

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Nathicana read back over the missive, mumbling out loud, emphasising certain points, nodding, changing things until she felt it sufficient. Taking her eyes from the screen finally, she reached for her ever-present glass of ice water.

"My Lady ... you don't think perhaps that ..." came Else's voice hesitantly.

She looked up to fix her secretary with a challenging look. "Is there something you wish to say, Else?" She sat back in her chair, brows arched expectantly.

"Well, I ... it's just that ... Well, lets face it. Your own record would hint at least at a fair mesure of hypocrasy," the woman said with a wry grin. "Look to your past and present actions and all?"

Nathicana scowled darkly. "There have been no difficulties between me and my allies, woman. And I forsee none in the immediate future. At least, no one has taken issue, nor challenged me on past nor present administration of the Dominion. They wouldn't have just allowed me in without a decent background check, I'm certain. They'd be fools otherwise, which is something I simply refuse to believe."

Conclusion? I haven't crossed the line with my actions, at least to their knowledge. What they don't know can't bite me.

"I think that will be all, Else," she said with irritation as she waved the woman off dismissively.

As she reached the door however, Nathicana called out softly. "Oh, and dear ... don't think to question me again. I realize I've been terribly lenient of late. I'd hate for our working relationship to become ... unpleasant."

The woman paled slightly, her face mirroring confusion mixed with a remembered fear. "Of course, my Lady. My apologies. I misspoke."

Nathicana nodded, and the woman made a brief, respectful dip before exiting the room, closing the door softly behind her.

About time I start taking back the respect around here. She'll talk. It was subtle, but hint enough for some of the others. Now ... for the next phase.

She turned back to her computer, sent off the missive, and moved on to her other projects.

If you rode my RPing request entirely (what i'm sure that you've done), this is stated that i sent you a request, asking you if you are ready to accept us as members of the Triumvirate of Yut.
How can you say that it is presumptuous ? We were precisly wondering about how to formulate it not to be presumptuous.
We were expecting an answer, not a Yes, just an answer.


The fact is that the Triumvirate of Yut seems to be a good RPing session of NationStates, and we also want to extend our relations to more countries/nations.
Its organisation is perfect, we love the idea of the “first among equals”, as we are organised the quite similar way into the AWN, which i'm co-head of.


the Triumvirate of Yut is exactly a golden occasion for our nation to be more/better known by other members/nations.
We always wanted/and_want to build something, more and more beautiful, more and more quite, more and more serious.
the Triumvirate of Yut is the occasion we find the more interesting.


Out of RPing form OOC : As you'll lastly remark, we wanted to write our request under the RPing form, to prove that we don't want to be known as those "clubbers" you are talking about.IC again


Finally, as you can see if you clic on the links of our signature, you'll find interesting to constat that our nation is seriously implicated in foreign relations and exchanges... Also our works on ecological studes should prove we are really implicated in showing a good image of our nation throught nationstates.


If you want more informations you can take a look on our official website (but this is dated from before the assassination of our last president so the army is not exact, the economy details are false, and the last sentances of the backgrounds are also false.



Hoping that you'll dislike (not "hate", I hate this word ^_^) us less after reading that.



Saman' Thä Gelëan
President and General
of LordSquallFreeRepublic
approved by the department of
LSFR territorial and space defense
.:'Our work in foreign nations is Crimson Sparta (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43966&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) who thanked us giving our name to their L.S.G.O.H (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46058&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) and our own works in Telüfeth (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44652&highlight=) and ecological studes (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=46227&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)':.

We will accept the diplomatic feelers, even if it ruins our chances, nothing can be hidden for long.

--Random Statesman

If you rode my RPing request entirely (what i'm sure that you've done), <<<much clippage>>>Hoping that you'll dislike (not "hate", I hate this word ^_^) us less after reading that.



(ooc: did you see anywhere in my post where I was out of character even once? Trust me ... was completely ic. She has her reasons. You could have just tg'd me you know. *chuckles*)

If you rode my RPing request entirely (what i'm sure that you've done), <<<much clippage>>>Hoping that you'll dislike (not "hate", I hate this word ^_^) us less after reading that.



(ooc: did you see anywhere in my post where I was out of character even once? Trust me ... was completely ic. She has her reasons. You could have just tg'd me you know. *chuckles*)
I was also practically entirely IC in my second post ^_^) I was answering to you as President Saman'thä Gelëal, which I actually am.
But prehaps I should modify a few sentances to make it be more natural, my entire apologises, that was my fault. :oops:

Saman'thä Gelëan.


[/PRECEDENT POST UPDATED]

The history of LordSquall, while in large part motivated by concern for human rights and the environment, shows a past riddled with unwarranted military action. Their past within CAGED--a known organization of war-mongerers--must be noted, as must President Saman' Thä Gelëan's frequent reference to soldiers and government officials as characters within some sort of "RP."

I'm afraid I must stamp a big "HELL NO" on the application of LordSquall.

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Mark Thomas Biddlebaum
Viceroy
The Free Community of SLAGLand Titan

Thanks even for the answer... :cry:

We would add that all military actions we've leaden were against Genociders and Warmongerers
(for exemple Iesus Christi against Rave Shentavo and Iesus Christi against Rangoth, Belem against DNS, Braintain and Burtanose against the whole of their homosexual population [treated like slaves or imprisoned in concentration camps)

For the case of Belem and Burtanose, their weren't accepting a pacifist solution I proposed, then my military forces came, and the Homosexuals have been liberated from the concentration camps where they were being executed.

For the case of Belem against DNS, Belem had executed the inspectors of DNS that were making a report on their activities (they were making a Genocide on a population for nothing, DNS asked our help, I called my Alliance, the AWN, and the CAGED, that have not answered to my call, and let this people die... [that's why i decided not to act any time longer for the CAGED, but also not to withdraw, in case of something....] )

For the case of RaveShentavo and Rangoth, Iesus Christi wanted to make a ull Genocide on those populations, because they had vampire leaders...
That was not a reason, so I decided to stand against Iesus Christi, and fighted close to Rangoth.

For all the cases I told you, I've firstly demanded a pacific/pacifist solution, but that had no effect on them, so the last way to save the oppressed peoples was the military intervention.

Please notice that the first article of the AWN Alliance constitution that i'm Co-Head is : "the first way to deal is an ennemi is diplomacy, this alliance is against warmongering nations, and the military interventions goes after the diplomatic intervention.

that's all :cry: I've been fighting for democracy, liberty, equality...

Saman'thä Gelëan.

The Triumvirate of Yut is not intended to be a police force for the multiverse. The purpose of this organization was not to cruise about the cosmos, saving all manner of oppressed peoples from tyranny. I fear that if we allow LordSquall within our ranks, we will force ourselves to become such an organization.

I'm sorry, but my ruling stands.

-Biddlebaum

Mindscape

Three great cats in a mongrel landscape; a leopard, an albino jaguar and a thing of shadows.

"Rawr! Kill them! They're competition!"

"That's not the issue. Do you want to let Reploid Productions into the Triumvirate of Yut?"

"Better here than outside. Yes!"

Dispatch

The Territory Co-Prosperity Sphere APPROVES the proposal to accept Reploid Productions into the Triumvirate.

Mindscape

"Next, LordSquall. Long history as international loudmouth, psychotically aggressive and a damn pain. I vote against."

A look like a person who wants to tear someone's thighbone out and beat them to death with it.

"I note that they're violent idealists as well, but they're amateurs. Don't pick their fights. No, I don't want them."

An even nastier look.

"Esperanza."

"Nay!"

Dispatch

The Territory Co-Prosperity Sphere REJECTS the proposal to accept LordSquall into the Triumvirate.

The Triumvirate of Yut is not intended to be a police force for the multiverse. The purpose of this organization was not to cruise about the cosmos, saving all manner of oppressed peoples from tyranny. I fear that if we allow LordSquall within our ranks, we will force ourselves to become such an organization.

I'm sorry, but my ruling stands.

-BiddlebaumI was not trying to change your mind on your decision, but trying to explain why the statement of the fact i was a CAGED member, and participated to several wars, was inutile, and very unnecessary.

Also, I don't wanted this triumvirate to be such a police, Because I rode it before wanting to sign.
And it is clearly said what you just told me so please stop taking me as a stupid who does not know what are the rules of the organisation he tries to enter in.

I guess now my request is just unappreciated...

How could I acces to the triumvirate of Yut by another way than being what you want a subscribing nation to be ?

Saman'thä Gelëan.

Update : I've juste rode the territory : too bad that you feel like insutling me that sort...

Derieties would like to become a member of the triumvurate, but regrettebly can only move a colony to saturn. Is this acceptable, and am i a reasonable candidate for the triumvurate?

You're going to have to give better reasons than that if you desire admission.

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Wololo
Minister of Righteous Diplomatic Smackdown
The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands


Better reasons for wanting to join, or for only being bale to move a colony?

If the latter, because my home region is the NATO region, and i am one of the head council members. Also, i dont currently have the space force to move a full billion people to saturn....

Derieties would like to become a member of the triumvurate, but regrettebly can only move a colony to saturn. Is this acceptable, and am i a reasonable candidate for the triumvurate?

You're going to have to give better reasons than that if you desire admission.

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Wololo
Minister of Righteous Diplomatic Smackdown
The Slagged Lands of The SLAGLands


Better reasons for wanting to join, or for only being bale to move a colony?

If the latter, because my home region is the NATO region, and i am one of the head council members. Also, i dont currently have the space force to move a full billion people to saturn....

ooc: sorry for taking so long, i only just realized this forum has a search feature :oops: :oops: :oops:

Better reasons for wanting to join, or for only being bale to move a colony?

If the latter, because my home region is the NATO region, and i am one of the head council members. Also, i dont currently have the space force to move a full billion people to saturn....

Moving to Saturn? There are a number of nations you'd need to negotiate with for that. I can't speak for them, but I'm not sure that you need to be a Trium member for that.

Your NATO status, location, or position within have no bearing on what decisions the Triumvirate might make as to your application. They are a separate entity, after all, and not answerable to NATO.

If you need assistance in relocating, I'm certain (if the location has been approved) that some sort of an agreement could be reached, also without Trium membership. I've noticed my fellow delegates to be rather friendly, helpful people. You might think of just asking.

I hope that helps clarify a bit - please, if I've misread or misrepresented, I ask that my fellow Triumvirate members set me straight.

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--Nathicana D'Aquisto dal Lupo, Dread Lady of the Dominion

i was merely responding to the honorable Wololo's message. Orignally i was told that moving to saturn was a requirment when you joined.

The Dominion of Sketch will receive whatever diplomatic envoy(s) the Triumvirate of Yut deems nessessary to send. However, we would like to make it clear that we wish only for a friendship treaty at this time; not full membership.

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Das Sketch
Head of the Council of Nine
Ruler of the Imperium

The Dominion of Sketch will receive whatever diplomatic envoy(s) the Triumvirate of Yut deems nessessary to send. However, we would like to make it clear that we wish only for a friendship treaty at this time; not full membership.
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{Understood, Das Sketch. We have a signed friendship treaty here,}
{identical to the ones mentioned before. Free trade, nonaggression,}
{et cetera. If you would like to sign it, then it will be official.}

{We can deploy a standard diplomatic mission of a diplomatic officer,}
{[i]three civil-servant assistants, and three Mobile Infantry embassy}
[{i]security personnel at your discretion.}
:
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Automata Alshai Kommetrez
Supreme Emperor of the Federated Segments of Scolopendra

"And we will likewise be sending out diplomatic staff to ADK, Skecth, and NATO."

"And for signing the treaty you get this nice fruit cake."
"Hehehe...err...sorry, long day."

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Maria Peacecraft
Office Of Foreign Affairs

The Dominion of Sketch shall sign the Friendship Treaty as presented, thus officializing our friendship.
*signs with an elegant flair*

We await the arrival of your respective diplomatic corps and will ensure that they get the proper treatment.

And accept that fruit cake.
*tells random servant to ensure the proper disposal of the fruitcake when it arrives*

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Das Sketch
Head of the Council of Nine
Ruler of the Imperium

FRUIT CAKE INTERCEPTED!

I thank you for your generous donation of one fruit cake to the "make Mark Biddlebaum not hungry fund."

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Mark Thomas Biddlebaum
Viceroy
The Free Community of SLAGLand Titan


I believe what Viceroy Biddlebaum means to say is this... we look forward to a fruitful relationship with the nation of Sketch.

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Sakura
EI Counsel to the Viceroy
The Free Community of SLAGLand Titan

Official Transmission to the Council of the Triumvirate of Yut from the Office of the President

The Republic of Sunset is interested in joining the Triumvirate and in order to further that interest I need to ask several questions.

Is it nessecary to have a colony on the Ring to join?

What is the typical negotiated defense alotment?

Would it be best to have a sponsor among the Triumvirate before coming to the Council?

The Republic currently has an open trade agreement with the Triumvirate, negotiated through The Federated Segments of Scolopendra, and we are interested in expanding that into full membership.

Regards,
President Eric Thorgardson, Sunset, Mars

I've heard good things about these slick folk from Sunset. I see no reason not to offer my full endorsement for their membership.

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Mark Thomas Biddlebaum
Viceroy
The Free Community of SLAGLand Titan

DIPLOMATIC RESPONSE
Is it nessecary to have a colony on the Ring to join?
No. It is traditional, but not required.

What is the typical negotiated defense alotment?
There is no typical defense allotment. Almost the entire military production of Scolopendra goes to the Triumvirate; very little comes from The SLAGLands because they are not a heavily militarized state. It is negotiated until consensus is reached.

Would it be best to have a sponsor among the Triumvirate before coming to the Council?
Yes, but that is unecessary. We are willing to sponsor you if you wish.

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International Relations Section
Federated Segments of Scolopendra

(OOC: You were wondering about rat-cats?)

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{Derietes: Aye}
{Lord Squall: [emphatic]Nae}
{Abu Dabi: Aye to Friendship Agreement}
{Sketch: Nae}
{Sunset: Abstain}
{We will discuss Our reasons with Triumvirate members only.}
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Automata Omicron Blu
Speaker of the Dominion


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Membership: Triumvirate of Yut, Ur Trade Pact, Zion Pact, SEACTO, DeusExHumanaConsortium

The Dominion of Sketch has noticed that Trium member Angelus has voted against the Friendship treaty between our parties. We would wish to know if that means that the treaty has been revoked or has Angelus only decided give voice to their objection of our treaty application. We also wish to know, if not directly from Angelus, then a third party; why Angelus considers the Dominion of Sketch to be unsuitable for a Friendship treaty. We await an answer.

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Sir Roger Smith (aka The Negotiator)
Minister of Foreign Affairs