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Kormanthor
30-03-2009, 21:41
It's a cape-killer. You can't expect to just be able to handle it on your own. It will require something called 'teamwork.'



I can always call in some help...

http://mediametric.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/captain-hammer.jpg


I'm all for teamwork, thats what I had in mind when I came into the Hotel. Granted they didn't know him but the fact that he didn't just attack anyone there without warning might give them an idea of his motivations.

I agree that we would definately need teamwork to beat these two new characters, but what motivation does Adrian now have for trying to get involved with the same group to fight against these new threats after being attacked the first time.

I will look over the psionic powers list you posted to see if I want to include some of them in Adrians bag of tricks. I will let you know tomorrow OK?
Tanaara
30-03-2009, 23:08
Kor- Sure, take your time looking over the list.

Also Kor, Adrians mere appearance isn't enough to reassure any one like this group - at least 3 of then survived by trusting no one - During the RT Heros betrayed other Heros - Family/ lovers/ friends betrayed family/ lovers / friends; children betrayed parents. So Adrians mere appearance did not mean, necessarily, that he was there to help.

I understand your idealism, but it's not, and justifiably not, theirs. And can't be expected to be.

Adrian does not have to work with the group, if he doesn't have the motivation to - I am not going to ask players to change their characters just to fit your perceptions/ ideology. I don't mean to be mean, but it's not fair to them to demand that they play their characters to suit you. Also it is not fair, either, to require you to play your character differently than he is.

Each of the characters is going to have to find their own motivation to become part of 'the team' and learn to trust - some may never.

However your character - having grown up living/ knowing about, first hand, the Raging Times would have an interior understanding of why a Powered wouldn't trust any one else under most - if not all - circumstances.

These characters Are Not perfect, and they shouldn't be expected to be. They can get angry, act on assumptions, have failures to communicate, be selfish, greedy, distrustful, impulsive, cowardly, callus, indifferent and even cruel. In short Human.

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And I hope we aren't bringing Captain Hammer into the pic, Art. I figured one monster at a time was enough. :p
King Arthur the Great
30-03-2009, 23:25
What do you mean, one monster at a time? You never know when we'll need his indestructible Hammer!

Actually, I put that up since I was at a black light/white shirt party last night, and I used a highlighter to put the hammer logo on the front of the blank shirt, and put "My fists are not the hammer" on the back.

Though to be fair, maybe we could include a new Dr. Horrible in Arc if Hammer shows up.
Tanaara
30-03-2009, 23:27
Whimpers...evil, Evil, Ebil man!
King Arthur the Great
30-03-2009, 23:41
Fine, I'll uninvite Captain Hammer and that Neil guy (his face is so horribly familiar). Shame, we could of used the two of 'em...
Kormanthor
31-03-2009, 15:09
I know you said you didn't care if I added all the psionic powers you listed to Adrian however I don't want him to have a number of those abilities. Here is the old and new character descriptions and a list of the powers that I would choose to add. I hope this description is what you were looking for Tanaara.

Original Character Description:

Name: Adrian Meridian / Nicolle Meridian
Age: 30
Height: 6'5" / 5'6"
Weight: 250lbs;Muscular / 120lbs;Wiry
Hair: Light Brown / Platinum Blonde
Beard: Light Reddish Brown / ....
Personality: Active, assertive, vigerous
Abilities: Master of the Martial Arts, Acrobatics
Powers: Very High IQ, Physical Regeneration, Shape Shifting, Psionic Energy Manipulation
Equipment: Air Bike / Tank Bike:aireal armed motorcycle w/ tank tread instead of wheels
Weakness: The over use of his psionic powers causes him to be weakened, if he becomes weakened enough his shape shifting powers causes his transformation into a young woman. As a woman she doesn't remember being anything other then female and uses her powers in her own ways.
Bio: The only child of a scientist who's breakthrough in dna made the family rich and accidentally created Nicolle unknown to Adrian. The two personalities are not aware of the other and believe they suffer from memory loss sometimes but don't realize why.


New Character Description

Name: Adrian Meridian / Nicolle Meridian
Age: 30
Height: 6'5" / 5'6"
Weight: 250lbs;Muscular / 120lbs;Wiry
Hair: Light Brown / Platinum Blonde
Beard: Light Reddish Brown / ....
Personality: Active, assertive, vigerous
Abilities: Master of the Martial Arts ( physical and mental ), Acrobatics
Powers:
1). Very High IQ
2). Physical Regeneration; As described in your list
3). Shape Shifting;a. Can become any male or female at will, however will become the opposite ( Adrain to Nicolle or vice versa ) if they use their psionics for more then thirty minutes at a time.
b. Can take any animal form with similair mass or less.
c. Mist Form Only, no gas forms
4). Psionic Energy Manipulation List;

( Power Definitions as in the lists posted )

Empathy
Clairaudience / Clairvoyance
Missive - One way message sending
Detect Hostile Intent / Danger Sense
Personal Mind Blank
Empathic Feedback
Retrieve
Suspend Life- Self Only
Escape Detection
Regeneration
Kinetic Control / Kinetic Bolt
Energy Sheath
Sensory Link
Psionic Detection

Equipment: Air Bike / Tank Bike:aireal armed motorcycle w/ tank tread instead of wheels. Investigative Sciences Lab and availablity of cutting edge weapons manufacturing.
Weakness: The over use of his psionic powers causes him to be weakened, if he becomes weakened enough his shape shifting powers causes his transformation into a young woman. As a woman she doesn't remember being anything other then female and uses her powers in her own ways.
Bio: The only child of a scientist who's breakthrough in dna made the family rich and accidentally created Nicolle unknown to Adrian. The two personalities are not aware of the other and believe they suffer from memory loss sometimes but don't realize why.
Kormanthor
31-03-2009, 15:48
Kor- Sure, take your time looking over the list.

Also Kor, Adrians mere appearance isn't enough to reassure any one like this group - at least 3 of then survived by trusting no one - During the RT Heros betrayed other Heros - Family/ lovers/ friends betrayed family/ lovers / friends; children betrayed parents. So Adrians mere appearance did not mean, necessarily, that he was there to help.

I understand your idealism, but it's not, and justifiably not, theirs. And can't be expected to be.

Adrian does not have to work with the group, if he doesn't have the motivation to - I am not going to ask players to change their characters just to fit your perceptions/ ideology. I don't mean to be mean, but it's not fair to them to demand that they play their characters to suit you. Also it is not fair, either, to require you to play your character differently than he is.

Each of the characters is going to have to find their own motivation to become part of 'the team' and learn to trust - some may never.

However your character - having grown up living/ knowing about, first hand, the Raging Times would have an interior understanding of why a Powered wouldn't trust any one else under most - if not all - circumstances.

These characters Are Not perfect, and they shouldn't be expected to be. They can get angry, act on assumptions, have failures to communicate, be selfish, greedy, distrustful, impulsive, cowardly, callus, indifferent and even cruel. In short Human.


Right now Adrian believes he could have saved the girls being raped and killed on the flatbed if he just hadn't tried to hook up with the other hero's. Yes he is aggravated with Ziyo, but he is also upset with himself for allowing it to happen by being to trusting. This is why I think for now Adrian will work by himself, maybe when he has become better known to the other Powered and learns who he considers trustworthy he might consider a team effort again.
[NS]Kagetora
31-03-2009, 20:46
Hey I'm back. Sorry for disappearing, I've been sick.
Catawaba
01-04-2009, 04:12
Captain Hammer is right out in the Arc Canon (http://www.seakae.com/tvz/reviews/drhorrible/3-3.jpg). I've been hinting...I think or maybe it's just my maniacal murmurings with Shal that Hammie's a snivling wreck somewhere. He was a powerful hero once, even the celebrity head of the Academy before May. But he got shuffled off because of his winning personalities, and during the Raging Times he was made to feel pain and washed up into a snivling ninny.
King Arthur the Great
01-04-2009, 04:24
Oh, come on, it was just a joke. I never meant any serious consideration into bringing in singing Empowereds to Arc. I just wanted to highlight the fact that:

A) our new monster will take some work to deal with; and

B) Nathan Fillion is just plain Awesome.
Catawaba
01-04-2009, 04:42
Oh I know Nathan Fillion is awesome. That's why I brought Captain Hammer into canon and faithfully gave him his end. :D Also look for Bad Horse in my posts.
King Arthur the Great
01-04-2009, 05:22
You mean that air-bike, with the cool horn?
Catawaba
01-04-2009, 05:42
Cool Horn? Surely you jest!

IT'S A DEATH WHINNY! *shudders*
King Arthur the Great
01-04-2009, 23:53
Death Whinny? This is a problem. The next vehicle is going to have a Destruction Moo. And after that...
Assington
02-04-2009, 00:06
Can we squeeze in an Apocalyptic Bray at some point as well?
Tanaara
02-04-2009, 00:16
Can we squeeze in an Apocalyptic Bray at some point as well?

Erm, Ass, that's going to have to come from you...
King Arthur the Great
02-04-2009, 00:22
By the way, that cape hunter can smell almost anything, right?
Catawaba
02-04-2009, 05:20
Will, Arty, don't tempt me. :D
King Arthur the Great
02-04-2009, 06:19
Erm, Ass, that's going to have to come from you...

Can our stubborn ass do this? I'm not sure we have a Donkey of Apocalypse anywhere, but I could be wrong.

Will, Arty, don't tempt me. :D

Alright, alright, I'll lay off till we decide to put up a Fantasy RP, but then the fantasy farm animals of Apocalypse are going to show up!

And I'll put up a post some time tomorrow about the initial conflict between our intrepid and highly confused Marcus and this giant Hunter-thing. Right now, I'm too damned tired. G'Night Everybody!
Kormanthor
03-04-2009, 17:09
FYI- Pennington ( Adrians Butler, etc. ) is an old friend of Adrians grandfather ( Psion ) with thirty years of military weapons experience and training. They became partners when Psion suddenly disappeared. They have been searching for clues to his disappearance for years but have only found his disgarded spandex suit.
King Arthur the Great
03-04-2009, 21:25
Careful with the 'Yellow Jacket' title. That's one of Hank Pym's better known aliases.

Yellow Jacket's official Marvel webpage. (http://www.marvel.com/universe/Yellowjacket_(Henry_Pym))
Tanaara
04-04-2009, 01:51
Kor - you need to clear things like that with me first. ( just a gentle reminder) - but its okay - as long as you keep some facts in mind. And yes he can call himself Yellow Jacket - U.S. copyright doens't hold in Arc,( but it might in Jolt? :p)

The Raging Time happened 25 years ago when Adrian was only 5 years old. ALL Heros and Villians were either A) killed by the mobs, B) captured and killed by the 'government' C)fled the nation and are on the run from Assassins sent after them ( only a handful are alive today ) or D) hid so deep they forgot who they were, and hoped wvery one else did asa well.

So it the partnership you describe would have not have been impossible - but Pennington would be at least in his mid 70's if not older at this Time and would not have been a well known Hero.

( 30 years military behind him and the military was disbanded 6 years before the Raging TImes ) Minimum age for service in the military ( at the time ) 16 +30+25 = 71
King Arthur the Great
04-04-2009, 01:57
And yes he can call himself Yellow Jacket - U.S. copyright doens't hold in Arc,( but it might in Jolt? :p)

( 30 years military behind him and the military was disbanded 6 years before the Raging TImes ) Minimum age for service in the military ( at the time ) 16 +30+25 = 71

77. Add the six years from the end of his service to the Raging Times, and it hits 77.

And I wanted to point out the Yellow Jacket bit only to preempt a Jolt Moderator clamp-down.
Tanaara
04-04-2009, 02:55
*blinks* I knew I was forgetting something. But then again I'm dyslexic when it comes to numbers. I'm lucky to have rememberd to double check and put in 71 not the 17 I had it as in my head...

Yes 77 is quite correct - thank you for catching that Art!

and the Donkey of Apocalypse ? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHOfnYBkZtw)

I still haven't found a good stallion scream and nothing a mule or donkey does sounds anything like a herd stallions scream of challenge.
King Arthur the Great
04-04-2009, 06:11
*blinks* I knew I was forgetting something. But then again I'm dyslexic when it comes to numbers. I'm lucky to have rememberd to double check and put in 71 not the 17 I had it as in my head...

Yes 77 is quite correct - thank you for catching that Art!

and the Donkey of Apocalypse ? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHOfnYBkZtw)

I still haven't found a good stallion scream and nothing a mule or donkey does sounds anything like a herd stallions scream of challenge.

No problem. And thank you very much for that bit on the donkey. You successfully dropped my caffeine high to a late night subtle awareness. I appreciate it greatly. Now my snappy IC post is just going to be a little offbeat.
Assington
04-04-2009, 06:55
Not quite an Apocalyptic Bray though... :p
Tagmatium
04-04-2009, 13:08
Makes me feel slightly like I'm jumping on the band wagon, but would it be ok for Daybourne to run in to the Hunter at the same time as everyone else?
Kormanthor
04-04-2009, 15:39
Kor - you need to clear things like that with me first. ( just a gentle reminder) - but its okay - as long as you keep some facts in mind. And yes he can call himself Yellow Jacket - U.S. copyright doens't hold in Arc,( but it might in Jolt? :p)

The Raging Time happened 25 years ago when Adrian was only 5 years old. ALL Heros and Villians were either A) killed by the mobs, B) captured and killed by the 'government' C)fled the nation and are on the run from Assassins sent after them ( only a handful are alive today ) or D) hid so deep they forgot who they were, and hoped wvery one else did asa well.

So it the partnership you describe would have not have been impossible - but Pennington would be at least in his mid 70's if not older at this Time and would not have been a well known Hero.

( 30 years military behind him and the military was disbanded 6 years before the Raging TImes ) Minimum age for service in the military ( at the time ) 16 +30+25 = 71


Sorry, I wasn't aware that yellow jacket was a protected name. I was thinking of the Bee, they are very nasty, I will delete it now and rename him later.
King Arthur the Great
04-04-2009, 23:57
For everybody that's meeting our electrokinetically Empowered friend, here's a basic idea of what your characters shall see when meeting him.

This (http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8817/paramountstealth3.jpg) (courtesy of Imageshack's hosting abilities).
King Arthur the Great
05-04-2009, 00:16
Makes me feel slightly like I'm jumping on the band wagon, but would it be ok for Daybourne to run in to the Hunter at the same time as everyone else?

SURE!! Nothing is more fun than everybody ganging up to kill a one-of-a-kind monster. Extinction is not always a bad thing.
Tanaara
05-04-2009, 00:31
I'll be bluntly honest - no one of you alone is going to be able to kill it. Flat out NOT going to happen. It is designed to give all of you a chance to get in on the action. Every one is welcome to take part.

This current action is all taking place in the South Third - they would not loose this anywhere near the North Third / Utopia. Any one in Utopia is at least in Center Third - there is ( as was stated earlier ) NO Cloud Lander levels ( abover 69) in the South Third.

And I will comment that Art's character does Not look anything like he did back at Hot l Baltimore. Please do not assume that you recognise him, or that he will recognise / remember you!

Back at Hotel Baltimore he looked like a normal person in street clothes- though his might have been better quality that is generally found down on Ground Zero in South Third - just like every one else - no one there was in any sort of costume.
King Arthur the Great
05-04-2009, 01:03
Thanks Shal, and I don't think that spark job could have done anything other than annoy this Hunter thing.

Also, going with what Shal has stated, James McDulny, the man you all met at the Hot l Baltimore, and a computer technician for Arc's systems, is for all purposes a dead man. His apartment and earthly possessions were seized following his disappearance, and whatever semblance of a court system Arc has officially declared him dead in the riots.

Anyways, I present, as he appeared during the riots, James McDulny (http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5536/jamesmcdulny.jpg).
King Arthur the Great
06-04-2009, 03:00
Kage and Assington:

In an earlier post, I stated that my char left Siren at a distance, and when he flew back to her, he was actually making a rapid exit from the immediate scene. However, your posts both have your chars addressing Paramount locally, so I have altered my post to accomodate this.

For reference, Paramount is now on the roof where he had been, watching for the creature. Ziyo was rather unceremoniously hauled up and is now on the roof with Paramount, which I estimate to be no higher than 30, to keep with it being a lower sized building in the South Third. Anton is floating nearby as a gas-cloud, and Siren is some way back, but accessible to Paramount.

The Hunter disappeared into the alley across and somewhat down the street, and this will be, upon re-commencement, a running battle with the creature.

I shall try to minimize further confusion, but some of my posts may reference locations mentioned one or two posts back, and while I can limit this, I would still note that this may happen again.
[NS]Kagetora
06-04-2009, 05:12
Oh I didn't mean for you to be local. Telepathy doesn't have much of a range limit.
King Arthur the Great
06-04-2009, 06:27
Kage, you'll need to edit your post. While I know that Ziyo's remarks about voice changing are true, he will not recognize the voice of Paramount, especially in telepathic form.

James McDulny is dead. The mind of Jimmy McDulny is no longer dominant within Paramount's brain. In fact, the experiences and memories of Jimmy are nothing more than an obscure film in Paramount's new consciousness. These six weeks have been more than a physical transformation for my character. He's changed, and been changed, the latter being more the case than the former. The telepathic voice of Jimmy McDulny would have matched the physical voice of a man from a semi-fractured background and a decent but grinding career.

Paramount has had his entire sense of reality warped in six weeks of rather intense conditioning. Mentally, to Ziyo, he'd read like a self-aware robot showing doubts. Telepathy would reveal significant mental 'remodeling,' but it would take a decently timed trip and training to work through both the layers of his semi-fractured psyche and the not inconsiderable defenses.

For reference, Shal's char Riyo, as a trained psionic hero and Academy graduate, could figure out Paramount's identity, problems, and situation in about five minutes, and override everything with a half hour of decent work. Otherwise, a significant shock or change of perception would be needed, or long-term effort by somebody of lesser training. This isn't to say that Ziyo's abilities are useless, far from it. It's just that somebody else has been traipsing about with strong yet subtle empathic pressures, somebody well trained in their use and limitations, and that somebody was smart enough to install a measure of shielding to Paramount's mind.
Assington
06-04-2009, 08:35
Sorry about that, I shall endeavour to pay more attention.

*Goes to reread everything*
[NS]Kagetora
06-04-2009, 23:07
Kage, you'll need to edit your post. While I know that Ziyo's remarks about voice changing are true, he will not recognize the voice of Paramount, especially in telepathic form.

James McDulny is dead. The mind of Jimmy McDulny is no longer dominant within Paramount's brain. In fact, the experiences and memories of Jimmy are nothing more than an obscure film in Paramount's new consciousness. These six weeks have been more than a physical transformation for my character. He's changed, and been changed, the latter being more the case than the former. The telepathic voice of Jimmy McDulny would have matched the physical voice of a man from a semi-fractured background and a decent but grinding career.

Paramount has had his entire sense of reality warped in six weeks of rather intense conditioning. Mentally, to Ziyo, he'd read like a self-aware robot showing doubts. Telepathy would reveal significant mental 'remodeling,' but it would take a decently timed trip and training to work through both the layers of his semi-fractured psyche and the not inconsiderable defenses.

For reference, Shal's char Riyo, as a trained psionic hero and Academy graduate, could figure out Paramount's identity, problems, and situation in about five minutes, and override everything with a half hour of decent work. Otherwise, a significant shock or change of perception would be needed, or long-term effort by somebody of lesser training. This isn't to say that Ziyo's abilities are useless, far from it. It's just that somebody else has been traipsing about with strong yet subtle empathic pressures, somebody well trained in their use and limitations, and that somebody was smart enough to install a measure of shielding to Paramount's mind.

I wouldn't expect your vocal chords would undergo much of a change despite your mental alterations. But he also still believes you're identity hasn't changed over the time.

Even if you're mindset changes a lot would most likely not change your biological makeup. THat's pretty much set. Unless you do something like Shal did, and physically altered pretty much every part of her body via telekinesis.

But simply by the voice, all that Ziyo has been able to pick up is that it is the same person, biologically, that he met in the Baltimore.
King Arthur the Great
06-04-2009, 23:33
No, his voice has been changed, mostly as a result from a deepening effect that his training has been part of. Marcus' voice is different from James' voice, and additionally, consider the Batman and Bruce Wayne's voice patterns: Batman speaks more harshly and at a lower octave, adding a rasping effect. But he consciously does this separately from his Bruce Wayne persona.

The best that I can describe it is in this manner: James was Bruce Wayne, who may have become something like an Empowered version of Batman. Now, however, six weeks of mental and physical deep-seated conditioning has made him much more akin to Batman, who may occasionally operate publicly as Bruce Wayne. Mentally, and physically, his voice, posture, physique, and mannerisms are different.

Oh, and As, I didn't mean to seek an apology, and much of it could have been avoided by a more careful approach on my part.
[NS]Kagetora
06-04-2009, 23:53
Which could be debated as he's doing them on purpose, but I understand what you're getting at.
King Arthur the Great
07-04-2009, 01:34
Kagetora;14674042']Which could be debated as he's doing them on purpose, but I understand what you're getting at.

Thanks. Would it help if I edited my last post to reflect the situation?
King Arthur the Great
08-04-2009, 03:40
Kag, I have edited the post in question, if it will help reflect the situation.
Catawaba
08-04-2009, 06:17
Oi, sorry for delay, y'all. School and work and trying to get my ducks in a row to apply for my dream job after I graduate college has been keeping me busy. I'm getting to the light at the end of the tunnel.
Tagmatium
08-04-2009, 23:22
OOC: Tag, just a minor correction the group is on a roof top, not down on street/ at street level. But a lot of people of y'alls sort use the rooftops as an informal 'highway' and meeting places
Crap.

Ok, I'd thought I'd read the posts thoroughly before replying, but obviously not :p

Sorry about that. I'll have it re-done tomorrow.

EDIT: Damn, re-reading it and it was basically a moronic error.
Assington
10-04-2009, 02:29
I find this article to rain on our little superhero parade. Enjoy :p

http://www.cracked.com/article_17185_7-awesome-super-powers-ruined-by-science.html
King Arthur the Great
11-04-2009, 03:37
I find this article to rain on our little superhero parade. Enjoy :p

http://www.cracked.com/article_17185_7-awesome-super-powers-ruined-by-science.html

Heh, some of that stuff is pretty good. I especially like the telepathy bit and the risks of igniting one's clothes when moving at super-speed.
Kormanthor
11-04-2009, 14:35
Hi Guys,

What do you all think about the name " PsiWarrior " for Adrian's hero name? :)
Tanaara
12-04-2009, 18:08
Just to let every one know, I have heard from Catawaba - he will be unable to continue in the RP due to time constraints. He tenders his sincerest apologies, but RL is a real bog for him right now.
Tanaara
12-04-2009, 18:34
Please note:

The Building marked 16 ( in green ) with Here ( in purple ) is where this all is happening.

The numbers of levels of buildings around it are marked in breen. The buildings with 'traditional' roof line markings are all 4 story's or less.

The black dots on various roofs are HVAC units - the huge heavy heating and cooling units found atop skyscrapers
King Arthur the Great
12-04-2009, 18:39
Just to let every one know, I have heard from Catawaba - he will be unable to continue in the RP due to time constraints. He tenders his sincerest apologies, but RL is a real bog for him right now.

That's a shame. If you get a message to him, mind telling him that Artie is pulling for our Errant friend?
Kormanthor
14-04-2009, 14:13
I'm going to assume that no one has a problem with " PsiWarrior " since you
haven't said anything about it.
Assington
14-04-2009, 14:59
Doesn't bother me in the slightest :p
Kormanthor
14-04-2009, 15:38
Doesn't bother me in the slightest :p


Kewl :)
King Arthur the Great
14-04-2009, 15:56
I personally don't care about code-names, so long as I have a constant point of reference.
Wandering Argonians
15-04-2009, 14:47
That's really why I went with 'Bullet' in the first place. And yes, I did take a little inspiration from the 'Wanted' series (not the movie, the comic book). Bullet seemed a little underpowered compared to the rest of them so I thought being able to do a little more with a gun than just simply shooting it made sense.

Is that an issue?
Tanaara
15-04-2009, 23:43
On for just a minute - but no WA, it's not an issue with me - Bullet is very interesting and I enjoy your posts!
Kormanthor
16-04-2009, 15:05
Cloud Land / Utopia /Angels High - Level 125 & up- where the wealthy and powerful congregate. No one from Ground Zero gets up here save on the most temporary of basis’s- and must have a very good reason- and all the appropriate stamps/ passes etc- security here is unbelievably tight and very thorough. Most of the residents of this level carry weapons openly and there is nothing to stop them from killing any non resident - and no justification is needed. Any non Utopian or non Mainer found up here can automatically be presumed up to no good - and as there is no law save what the Cloud Landers choose to acknowledge ...


Because of the statement above, cloudlanders have the right to have weapons and to kill those who are not cloudlanders if they wish too when they are found at cloudlander levels.

At this point PsiWarrior is still traveling through the Utopian Levels of the City. So I must ask you Tanaara where your security force personnel live in Arc. I doubt very much they live in Utopia, or else
why are they working for a living?

Also who said my bike was unregistered? Just because I said that it's armed doesn't mean that the weapons aren't covered so they wouldn't be readily noticable. Moreover a cloudlander would be able to get vehicles registered that normal people could not. After all Money Talks and BS Walks.

PsiWarrior no sooner leaves the building and suddenly they are all over him? As if they knew where he was all along, or did they just happen by at just the right time to see him leaving? Because of these facts PsiWarrior doesn't recognize their authority, and will use deadly force as is his right as a Cloudlander.
King Arthur the Great
16-04-2009, 18:14
Because of the statement above, cloudlanders have the right to have weapons and to kill those who are not cloudlanders if they wish too when they are found at cloudlander levels.

At this point PsiWarrior is still traveling through the Utopian Levels of the City. So I must ask you Tanaara where your security force personnel live in Arc. I doubt very much they live in Utopia, or else
why are they working for a living?

Also who said my bike was unregistered? Just because I said that it's armed doesn't mean that the weapons aren't covered so they wouldn't be readily noticable. Moreover a cloudlander would be able to get vehicles registered that normal people could not. After all Money Talks and BS Walks.

PsiWarrior no sooner leaves the building and suddenly they are all over him? As if they knew where he was all along, or did they just happen by at just the right time to see him leaving? Because of these facts PsiWarrior doesn't recognize their authority, and will use deadly force as is his right as a Cloudlander.

Kor: the security forces are bought and paid for by the Cloudlanders, to patrol the Cloud levels and Utopia. They might not live there, but they definitely work there. And it's generally meant that the right to kill is reserved for eliminating non-cloudies with no valid reason to be in the area, not for security forces paid to be there, who are generally the ones pulling the trigger. Rich people don't handle guns when a paid goon can do it perfectly well for less hassle to the rich person.

If, as you say, the vehicle is registered, then nearly every guard would know who owns it, who is flying it, and where it parks. Which means that its sighting anywhere near incidents involving Empowered would raise some questions, to say the least.

Which brings up the last point. Arc has a pretty well-developed A.I. monitoring and operating system. We're calling it HAL (mostly as an in joke to the problems with trusting A.I. systems), and to this end it has an observation network for the sky, a 'Sky-Net' (more in-jokes and humor) that would have picked up on the air-bike the minute it went atmo. If it's registered, then HAL would see it go to the South Third, and note its return, during which time an Empowered conflict is reported in the general vicinity.

And anything Empowered related would get priority, and before you know it your char's cover identity is blown, the registration having been back tracked to a child of a noted scientist.
Tanaara
16-04-2009, 23:43
On for a moment - and Kor, Art is absolutely correct in all his statements.

The Cloudlanders are the 'government', and while they are fractured into Syndics, Triads, Mobs and other criminal organizations - the one point they all cooperate at least loosely on is when it comes to security. They each have their own security organizations and they patrol their holdings carefully - no Utopian wants to find his fun ruined by some grungy Ground Zero'er horning on it, or being seen and heard...

Patrols are regular, and constant and currently there is a curfew on for levels below Utopia - but that does not mean that whats happening uptop gets ignored.

and one groups security is empowered to cross into another groups areas under certain conditions.

If your vehicle is regtistered, then it is known and trackable - if you bought it through a dealer, then there is a hidden transponder in it. If you have removed / disabled the transponder that would be noted when it showed up on the screens and was not bleeping merrily away.

If you built it yourself that takes special permission - not that such permission is impossible to get - it just takes paying off the right people - and again it would be registering a transponder code.

And ownership would then be known. True that it would be simple, if rather expensive to have a false front ownership, but that might well be another probem - in them believeing that the driver of the vehicle ( you ) and the owner are two seperate people - and bring about thoughts of "Vehicular theft" and you really wouldn't want them coming that conclusion now would you?

I am not trying to stop on your fun, but you have to realise that your character is going up against 'the System' and they have tons more resources than you do. And don't worry - at the moment all that is keeping security from very merrily crashing the party in South Third is that those in charge of that area are keeping it from happening...

And beside now your character has a challenge all to himself. :p
Catawaba
17-04-2009, 04:40
That's a shame. If you get a message to him, mind telling him that Artie is pulling for our Errant friend?

Thanks, Arty. School's closin' up for me and I've got graduation comin' up at the same time. I've still got work, and then on top of it all I'm tryin' to get my ducks in a row so I can get on with my dream company after I graduate. It's alot goin' on, and I just don't have the time to focus and write the long stuff I need to be involved in this thread. I don't want to do it half-assed, because this thread and idea deserves more.

We'll see what it's like after the ninth of May when I graduate.
Kormanthor
17-04-2009, 15:40
On for a moment - and Kor, Art is absolutely correct in all his statements.

The Cloudlanders are the 'government', and while they are fractured into Syndics, Triads, Mobs and other criminal organizations - the one point they all cooperate at least loosely on is when it comes to security. They each have their own security organizations and they patrol their holdings carefully - no Utopian wants to find his fun ruined by some grungy Ground Zero'er horning on it, or being seen and heard...

Patrols are regular, and constant and currently there is a curfew on for levels below Utopia - but that does not mean that whats happening uptop gets ignored.

and one groups security is empowered to cross into another groups areas under certain conditions.

If your vehicle is regtistered, then it is known and trackable - if you bought it through a dealer, then there is a hidden transponder in it. If you have removed / disabled the transponder that would be noted when it showed up on the screens and was not bleeping merrily away.

If you built it yourself that takes special permission - not that such permission is impossible to get - it just takes paying off the right people - and again it would be registering a transponder code.

And ownership would then be known. True that it would be simple, if rather expensive to have a false front ownership, but that might well be another probem - in them believeing that the driver of the vehicle ( you ) and the owner are two seperate people - and bring about thoughts of "Vehicular theft" and you really wouldn't want them coming that conclusion now would you?

I am not trying to stop on your fun, but you have to realise that your character is going up against 'the System' and they have tons more resources than you do. And don't worry - at the moment all that is keeping security from very merrily crashing the party in South Third is that those in charge of that area are keeping it from happening...

And beside now your character has a challenge all to himself. :p




As a cloudlander Adrian should have the same rights as the other cloudlanders do. You can't require all Cloudlanders to be evil. I realize that the system has it's checks and balances for lack of a better term.

However like Batman / Bruce Wayne operates ( because of his social position ) without the system being able to track him, so should Adrian be able too ( At least to a point ). Is the Batmobile registered? Is any of the other equipment he uses
tracable? All I'm saying is PsiWarrior should have at least be able to get to the battle site before being confronted by hoods pretending to be Police.

Speaking to the party being crashed on South Third, I thought the idea was that empowereds were making a comeback. If so, you have to leave them at least a little bit of leadway in order to start that. Lets look at what has happened to Adrian so far, two times now folks have come against him trying to put him a place where he has no control over the circumstances of his own life. Where's the fun in being totally controlled at every turn?

You say you are not trying to stop my fun, but that is exactly what you are doing. I always try to be fair to folks in my threads. Is that to much to ask for here? I just haven't seen any of the other characters here being completely shutdown like you have been doing to Adrian every since he came on the seen. If you don't want me in your thread then just say so. If that is not your position then Adrian /
PsiWarrior will start again from the position of his watch of the battle.


I'm really am not hard to get along with.
King Arthur the Great
17-04-2009, 16:55
As a cloudlander Adrian should have the same rights as the other cloudlanders do. You can't require all Cloudlanders to be evil. I realize that the system has it's checks and balances for lack of a better term.

However like Batman / Bruce Wayne operates ( because of his social position ) without the system being able to track him, so should Adrian be able too ( At least to a point ). Is the Batmobile registered? Is any of the other equipment he uses
tracable? All I'm saying is PsiWarrior should have at least be able to get to the battle site before being confronted by hoods pretending to be Police.

Speaking to the party being crashed on South Third, I thought the idea was that empowereds were making a comeback. If so, you have to leave them at least a little bit of leadway in order to start that. Lets look at what has happened to Adrian so far, two times now folks have come against him trying to put him a place where he has no control over the circumstances of his own life. Where's the fun in being totally controlled at every turn?

You say you are not trying to stop my fun, but that is exactly what you are doing. I always try to be fair to folks in my threads. Is that to much to ask for here? I just haven't seen any of the other characters here being completely shutdown like you have been doing to Adrian every since he came on the seen. If you don't want me in your thread then just say so. I'm really am not hard to get along with.

Kor, we're not trying to attack you or limit your fun, we're just trying to keep the whole setting and circumstances of the RP grounded and consistent. Maybe this can clear some things up.

Yes, the Empowered's are making a comeback. But look at how they're living, as fugitives or semi-fugitives in Arc's underbelly. You try to compare your character to an Empowered Batman, but you're ignoring some of the basic differences in Arc City as opposed to Gotham City.

For one, Batman, as Bruce Wayne, is not just Cloudlander rich. Comparatively speaking, Bruce Wayne is in the top five wealthiest people of DC's Earth, if not the richest due to all the times Lex Luthor gets incarcerated or ends up broke. If Adrian were as wealthy, Arc would be keeping the same attention on him as on the other top 0.01% of Arc's Elite.

Secondly, you ignore the basic distinction between the DC universe, where Superman is an icon and practically a canonized saint and Batman a very unofficial friend of the Gotham Police Department, with what Arc is like. Empowereds are hated, hunted, and those that have no practical use for research or slave labor are killed outright. This isn't Watchmen, where even with the static indifference to the retired heroes, the police still figured out Dan Dreiburg as Nite Owl II.

This is 'Age of Apocalypse' style loathing. 25 years ago the Empowereds, Heroes and Villains alike, were hunted down and exterminated with a ruthlessness that matched the Nazis and an indifference to the innocent bystanders that only Stalin could have mustered. And, as for the RP, it is officially six weeks since Hannah ^O was very publicly abducted in a brazen manner by a group of Empowered villains. That's six weeks of preparations by the Powers That Be of Arc, and this Hunter thing was released into the South Third for a reason.

Anybody it kills isn't worth much to the Cloudies, and this is a monster designed solely for the hunting and killing of Empowereds. It's not so much the threat as the example of just how far the current ruling powers will go to prevent the Empowereds from coming back. Batman doesn't live in a world where his very existence is seen as a national security threat by his own government. And in the alternate story-lines of Frank Miller, The Dark Knight Returns and The Dark Knight Strikes Again, Batman is hunted, and has to go so far as faking his own death at the hands of a brainwashed Superman. Even then, he still moves fast and stays to the shadows, since people everywhere are looking for him, to kill him. This is the same type of world that Arc finds itself in, and these are the same conditions that we are playing in. It's bad, and the choices available are often imperceptibly close shades of grey.
Kormanthor
17-04-2009, 17:02
Kor, we're not trying to attack you or limit your fun, we're just trying to keep the whole setting and circumstances of the RP grounded and consistent. Maybe this can clear some things up.

Yes, the Empowered's are making a comeback. But look at how they're living, as fugitives or semi-fugitives in Arc's underbelly. You try to compare your character to an Empowered Batman, but you're ignoring some of the basic differences in Arc City as opposed to Gotham City.

For one, Batman, as Bruce Wayne, is not just Cloudlander rich. Comparatively speaking, Bruce Wayne is in the top five wealthiest people of DC's Earth, if not the richest due to all the times Lex Luthor gets incarcerated or ends up broke. If Adrian were as wealthy, Arc would be keeping the same attention on him as on the other top 0.01% of Arc's Elite.

Secondly, you ignore the basic distinction between the DC universe, where Superman is an icon and practically a canonized saint and Batman a very unofficial friend of the Gotham Police Department, with what Arc is like. Empowereds are hated, hunted, and those that have no practical use for research or slave labor are killed outright. This isn't Watchmen, where even with the static indifference to the retired heroes, the police still figured out Dan Dreiburg as Nite Owl II.

This is 'Age of Apocalypse' style loathing. 25 years ago the Empowereds, Heroes and Villains alike, were hunted down and exterminated with a ruthlessness that matched the Nazis and an indifference to the innocent bystanders that only Stalin could have mustered. And, as for the RP, it is officially six weeks since Hannah ^O was very publicly abducted in a brazen manner by a group of Empowered villains. That's six weeks of preparations by the Powers That Be of Arc, and this Hunter thing was released into the South Third for a reason.

Anybody it kills isn't worth much to the Cloudies, and this is a monster designed solely for the hunting and killing of Empowereds. It's not so much the threat as the example of just how far the current ruling powers will go to prevent the Empowereds from coming back. Batman doesn't live in a world where his very existence is seen as a national security threat by his own government. And in the alternate story-lines of Frank Miller, The Dark Knight Returns and The Dark Knight Strikes Again, Batman is hunted, and has to go so far as faking his own death at the hands of a brainwashed Superman. Even then, he still moves fast and stays to the shadows, since people everywhere are looking for him, to kill him. This is the same type of world that Arc finds itself in, and these are the same conditions that we are playing in. It's bad, and the choices available are often imperceptibly close shades of grey.


Something that would be helpful is knowing what the technology level is in this thread. As Kormanthor I have technology that may be to high for the storyline. I know that there are aircars and such but I don't have the details on how they work and what the limitations are. Also I am wondering if there is more freedom of personal action outside the City.
King Arthur the Great
17-04-2009, 17:37
Something that would be helpful is knowing what the technology level is in this thread. As Kormanthor I have technology that may be to high for the storyline. I know that there are aircars and such but I don't have the details on how they work and what the limitations are. Also I am wondering if there is more freedom of personal action outside the City.

You'd have to ask Shal about that stuff.
Tanaara
18-04-2009, 04:28
I am sorry that I have not been posting much the last couple of days - I have had little to no chance during the day to get on-line, and when I did limited access.

How things work? oh yea gods, I don't know how the tech works, I just use it.

I know that even modern planes ( especially anything military ) squawks 'modes and codes'- transponders that beep out radio signals on a certain freq? In a certain pattern like morse code? I don't know I'm not a techie, I just know they are there.

On the civilian side there are things like Lo- Jack to allow police and civilian companies to track vehicles, and GPS devices in phones to do the same thing with them...

And I extrapolate that when you have cars that fly ( hover, use maglev, limited antigrav- whatever) you would have somthing other than mere liscense plates. And so I decided that some sort of hard to dismantle/ override / turn off 'tracking-transponder-vehicle registration' thingy would be put in all vehicles

Kor - Your character may be a Cloud Lander but you are not a part of the groups running the show. Wealth may give power and status to get on into Cloud Land, but that doesn't make you one of the ruling lords ( mob bosses/ Syndic Overman/ Triad Mountain Masters )

Kor - I was merely having security pull you over, you could have given me a chance to respond to what you did.

I am going to be blunt - Right Now I can not make multiple posts per day. If the RP is moving too slow for you ( this is a generic You, not aimed at any one in particular, I apologise, but perhaps you had better find another RP

I would guess that for Cloud Landers the Technology level is high end PMT, for other it is considerably lower at MT, and for the least fortunate while the MT tech is there there is also the problem of even having it to use. No people are not reduced to cooking over wood stoves but there are many, many dingy apartments that have no phone, no central air and heat, no cable, no net, no microwave, no dishwasher, no laundry facilities, no reliable hot water and the electricity runs for only a few hours a day.
King Arthur the Great
18-04-2009, 04:40
Eh, one post a day is fine, that's really about all I can do for IC stuff anyways.
Kormanthor
18-04-2009, 18:55
Kor - I was merely having security pull you over, you could have given me a chance to respond to what you did.

I believe there was 24 to 48 hrs between my online visits to the thread. Also the thought that you might only want to give me a traffic ticket never occured to me.

I am going to be blunt - Right Now I can not make multiple posts per day. If the RP is moving too slow for you ( this is a generic You, not aimed at any one in particular, I apologise, but perhaps you had better find another RP

If that is what you want, then I will leave.
Tanaara
18-04-2009, 20:45
LOL that is about all they wanted to do "Mr. Cloudlander sir, your transponder has glitched, you might want to take it in and have it checked. Also you need to be aware that there is a red code for South Third, so if your destination is near there, please be extra careful tonight."

Originally Posted by tanarra
I am going to be blunt - Right Now I can not make multiple posts per day. If the RP is moving too slow for you ( this is a generic You, not aimed at any one in particular, I apologise, but perhaps you had better find another RP.
Kor - that is up to you to decide - I am not trying to drive you away, I think that my post stated that quite clearly - but, to make sure, I have made it more prominent. Please read what I have posted.
Kormanthor
21-04-2009, 16:02
LOL that is about all they wanted to do "Mr. Cloudlander sir, your transponder has glitched, you might want to take it in and have it checked. Also you need to be aware that there is a red code for South Third, so if your destination is near there, please be extra careful tonight."

Originally Posted by tanarra

Kor - that is up to you to decide - I am not trying to drive you away, I think that my post stated that quite clearly - but, to make sure, I have made it more prominent. Please read what I have posted.


No need calling me Sir. :p I have had a change of heart. :$ I decided to try again if thats OK with you. I have made a new post answering your post concerning the Security Cars that I think you will like. :)
Kormanthor
25-04-2009, 16:33
Tanaara if your security people would like some excitement PsiWarrior would be glad to grant them that wish. :p Otherwise he'll pretend to cooperate for a few moments more.
King Arthur the Great
30-04-2009, 01:41
Alright, I'm going to hold off my next IC post till Anton and Bullet are able to react to the reaching claws of the monster.
Assington
30-04-2009, 14:44
I will hopefully be able to post tomorrow, ye old internet is growling at me at the moment.
King Arthur the Great
01-05-2009, 21:08
"Captain Fantastic"?

That's one I'm going to have to remember, it's pretty good. All the quirkiness of Mister Fantastic amped by the powers of one of the Captain-somethings.
King Arthur the Great
02-05-2009, 06:22
Right, I need to put up my response, can't put it off any longer.
Kormanthor
04-05-2009, 22:30
Hopefully Psi Warrior will be able to get to the battle area sometime this year. :p:rolleyes:
King Arthur the Great
04-05-2009, 22:46
Hopefully Psi Warrior will be able to get to the battle area sometime this year. :p:rolleyes:

Um, Kor, you weren't on for a while, and I think the battle is over.
Kormanthor
04-05-2009, 22:52
Um, Kor, you weren't on for a while, and I think the battle is over.



It figures :( ... and I just got internet service hooked up again at home. :)
King Arthur the Great
05-05-2009, 05:24
Assington: While you have no need to change your post, just remember that your character won't know Marcus as, well, Marcus. He was still in full blacks when he flew off.
Assington
05-05-2009, 05:28
Yeh, I know. I was just using his name as opposed to 'mysterious black clad stranger that shoots lightning'.
King Arthur the Great
05-05-2009, 06:29
Yeh, I know. I was just using his name as opposed to 'mysterious black clad stranger that shoots lightning'.

Between that and "Captain Fantastic," I'm finding him to have a rather unique set of names attributed to him. Though he did introduce himself as 'Paramount,' yet I suspect Bullet might just refer to him as "Pretentious Git #1."
Assington
08-05-2009, 05:44
Fair point, Paramount it is.
King Arthur the Great
08-05-2009, 06:17
Fair point, Paramount it is.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound overbearing or arrogant, I've just found the humor in all the names that is a direct result of the general silliness of certain super-hero tropes. Been reading way too much Wildcards from my uncle's stash of books. Too bad he won't give them to me...:(
Kormanthor
15-05-2009, 17:50
Tanaara is PsiWarrior OK to leave without pissing off the security people?