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Commonwealth of Independent States Charter

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Preamble
The Commonwealth of Independent States (in following text CIS) exists for the purpose of ensuring the collective security of member-states, encouraging mutual co-operation and ensuring the property, sovereignty and independence of all member-states.

Although the CIS has few supranational powers, it is more than a purely symbolic organization, possessing coordinating powers in the realm of trade, finance, lawmaking, and security. As an international organization, CIS participates in international peacekeeping activities. Some of the members of the CIS have established the Free trade agreement with the aim of creating a full-fledged common market.

Nations must have a population of at least 150 million to join the CIS. However any existing members with less than 150 million are allowed to stay in the CIS

Application form

Full nation name:
Population:
National leader's title:
Type of Political system:
Type of Economic System:
Current wars?(if any):

Commonwealth institutions

Commonwealth Parliament
Research and Technological Development Bureau
Commonwealth Defence Bureau
Commonwealth Transportation Bureau
Commonwealth Economic Promotion Bureau

Rules

-The CIS will have an legislative body for decision making. This will be the Commonwealth Parliament.
Each member-state will have a representative in this council to participate in parliament votes and
any meetings or discussions held. The CIS will hold regular conferences between its members for the
purpose of discussing important issues.

- As the CIS will require funds, it will be necessary for members to provide a sum of about 0.8 percent
of the nation's GDP to the treasury. If a member-state is experiancing economic troubles, the sum
will be either be reduced or cut completely.

- The Research and Technological Development Bureau will exist for the purpose of supporting
and encouraging joint research projects by CIS member states.

- As one of the main purposes of the CIS is collective security, it will create the Commonwealth
Defence Bureau. It will conduct studies to determine and analyise main security issues,
determine how member-states can best increase their security, support co-operation between
the armaments industries of its members, and work towards strengthening the overall defence technology
and industrial base of the CIS

-It will be important for the CIS to improve cross-border travel for the purpose of allowing goods, services and
people to more easily move through the borders of member-states. For this purpose, the CIS will create
the Commonwealth Transportation Bureau for the purpose of improving transportation infrastructure between
member states. It also declares that all citizens of member-states of the CIS should have the right to move and
reside freely within the territory of all member-states.

- Nations must have a population of at least 150 million to join the CIS. However any existing
members with less than 150 million are allowed to stay in the CIS.

- No member of the CIS will attack any other member state. If a member does attack
another member state, they will be expelled from the CIS.

- Members of the CIS shall not levy tariffs exceeding more than 3% against fellow member states.

- If any nation of the Commonwealth gets attacked, all nations in the CIS shall retaliate against the aggressor as one to defend the nation under attack, unless the member-state decides it does not need aid or 3/4ths of the CIS vote not to give the member aid

- All CIS members can propose changes to the Charter of the Commonwealth at any time. Should a proposition of change happen, a vote will take place and if it gets 50% support of CIS members it will be accepted and added to the current charter.

- Member states may request economic aid from the CIS, should they suffer any kind of economic crisis.

- CISM is the main defensive force of the Commonwealth, it is comprised of several battlegroups and units.
Its main objectives are to protect the territorial integrity and sovereignty of all member states.
Its organization, structure, armaments and equipment are tailored to support their assigned missions
and tasks, predominately on the ground. Also CISM is tightly connected to the other branches of the
CIS Military for higher effect and faster response to crisis situations.

The obvious benefit to a country in maintaining CISM bases, is in providing protection from foreign
threats, and from internal conflict. In recent decades CISM personnel have also been used as emergency
civil support roles in post-disaster situations. Expenditure on science and technology to develop weapons
and systems sometimes produces side benefits, although some claim that greater benefits could come
from targeting the money directly. CISM bases are in every state of the Commonwealth with various
troop numbers. At any time the number of CISM across the globe is 2,2 million service personnel, who
are paid from the CIS treasury.

- When a call for assistance from a member nation OR if a situation that a member nation believes
warrants the CISMs attention, the Defence Delegate, his deputies, the head of the CIS or the heads
of the CISM branches (CISFOR, CISNAV, CISAF, CISSWD etc) may give leave for the deployment.
However If it turns out that by vote over 50% of the CIS disagrees with the deployment OR the head
of the CIS vetoes the deployment, then all deployed forces must be withdrawn.


Members
The Republic Of Madurastan
The Kingdom of Chernobl
The Technocracy of Ascelonia
The Kingdom of Nordfire
The Federation of Cukarica
The Most Secure Provinces and States of Galaxianda
The Commonwealth of Ventares
The Twelve Colonies of Augmark
The Confederacy of Laudren States
The Dominion of Sarrowquand
The Empire of the Philippiniada
The Armed Republic Of the Wolf Hold
The Constitutional Monarchy of Valladares
The Imperial Order of the Three Houses of Lonun
The Federated States of Nehrland
The People's Republic of Astholm
The Federation Of Oseato
The People's Cyonist Republic of Boico
The Federation Of Lingard
The Republic of the United States of Pennsylvania

Observer Nations
The Federation of Serbian Soviet Union

OOC: It is Essential for all members to join our Forum Here (http://z13.invisionfree.com/CIS_Forums/index.php?) as is activity on it.

Full nation name: The Empire of Qaitia.
National leader's title: Emperor Mohammed Salr.
Type of Political system: Federal Empire with Parliamentry Democracy.
Type of Economic System: Capitalist, with a model of the free market and free trade.

((OOC: Is there a forum?))

OOC: Unfortunaly not. I have only just created this organisation.

IC:
To: The Empire of Qaitia
From: The Commonwealth of Independent States

Your application has been accepted.

OOC: I would join, but I disagree with this part.

"It also declares that all citizens of member-states of the CIS should have the right to move and
reside freely within the territory of all member-states."

What if a nation can't let that happen because of securtiy concerns or something?

((OOC: I can create one.))

OOC: What that means is that if a Citizen of nation A wanted to move to nation B, they would be free to do so. It doesn't give permission for nation A to spy on nation B. However, If you really think it is a problem, I will allow any Nations that have a proper problem with that to not have to comply with that.

OOC: Qaitia, that would be great.

((OOC: http://z13.invisionfree.com/CIS_Forums/index.php?act=idx
The rest is for you, Osea. Unless, you want me or someone else to do it.))

Full nation name: The Holy Roman Empire of Urcea
National leader's title: Holy Roman Emperor
Type of Political system: Absolute Monarchy
Type of Economic System: Unrestricted capitalism

OOC: What that means is that if a Citizen of nation A wanted to move to nation B, they would be free to do so. It doesn't give permission for nation A to spy on nation B. However, If you really think it is a problem, I will allow any Nations that have a proper problem with that to not have to comply with that.

Well the main problem with that is I a fascit nation(but not a extreme one) that can't just let any ramdom person in. Not to forget what nation wants to let a druggie or someone who has a crimmal record move into their country just because their allainces says they have to? That means the allaince overrules dosmetic policy within your member nations. Which I sure just about no sane nation would want. If you let me not comply with that those. Then I galdy send a application to join the CIS.

OOC: Well, I did say that I would allow any Nations that have a proper problem with that to not have to comply with that and you have given good reasons so go ahead. I am going to have to adjust that rule. I'll put that you are not a nation that that rule applies to.

To: The Holy Roman Empire of Urcea
From: The Commonwealth of Independent States

Your application has been accepted.

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To: The Holy Empire of Osea
From: Office of the Chancellor
Subj: Formation of the CIS

On behalf of the Federal Republic of Leistung and her people, I would like to extend my congratulations on the formation of the Commonwealth of Independent States, and wish you luck in forming a freer and more harmonious union with your fellow man.

Sincerely,
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Gregor Ringkampf
Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Leistung

To: The Federal Republic of Leistung
From: The Holy Empire of Osea

We thank you for your congratulations. We hope that Osea and the Commonwealth will enjoy a friendly relationship with you and ODECON.

To:The Holy Empire of Osea
From:The People Republic of the Socialist States of Fighter4u

We wish to join your new alliance as we believe we can both benfited from such a agreement.

Full nation name:The People Republic of the Socialist States of Fighter4u
National leader's title: Fighter4u of Fighter4u
Type of Political system:Totalitarian Fascit Dictatorship
Type of Economic System: Unrestricted capitalism

To: The People Republic of the Socialist States of Fighter4u
From: The Commonwealth of Independent States

Your application has been accepted. The Holy Empire of Osea welcomes you to the Commonwealth.

Full nation name: Republic Of Madurastan
National leader's title: President
Type of Political system: Democracy
Type of Economic System: Capitalist

To: The Republic Of Madurastan
From: The Commonwealth of Independent States

Your application has been accepted. The Holy Empire of Osea welcomes you to the Commonwealth

Bump

To: The People Republic of the Socialist States of Fighter4u
From: The Commonwealth of Independent States

Your application has been excepted. The Holy Empire of Osea welcomes you to the Commonwealth.

Our previous statement has been retracted.

OOC: Why? I don't really know much about the guy. Is there some thing I should know?

OOC: Not OOCly. ICly, we've got a little "rival nations" thing going on.

OOC: Not OOCly. ICly, we've got a little "rival nations" thing going on.

OOC: That's an understatement.

OOC: More information would be nice.

OOC: Well, we've been at odds in, like, fourteen different RPs. The Ralkovian change in government, the fact that I've branded him a terrorist nation, the fact that he is a terrorist nation, and the fact that he's threatening every ODECON member who comes across him, mainly.

OOC: Yeah I been thinking about leaving the allaince because of my coming war(which I don't plan on having the CIS getting involed in). I simply joined this alliance to give it more military power and noting more.

OOC: Well, we've been at odds in, like, fourteen different RPs. The Ralkovian change in government, the fact that I've branded him a terrorist nation, the fact that he is a terrorist nation, and the fact that he's threatening every ODECON member who comes across him, mainly.

OOC: It's one of those loving relationships where both sides claim to hate each other. :P

But I leave without trouble if Osea 767 wishes while donating a few trillion dollars worth of military equipment if needed/wanted.

OOC: While I don't like the Idea of tossing you out, it would probably be better ICly for this alliance if it made sure its relation's with Leistung, and by extension, ODECON are at least friendly.

OOC: While I don't like the Idea of tossing you out, it would probably be better ICly for this alliance if it made sure its relation's with Leistung, and by extension, ODECON are at least friendly.

OOC: No need. We withdrawn from the allaince quietly. While also donating some military hardware to yuor alliance if you wish for you to sell or keep as a gift from us to you.

Full nation name: The Kingdom of Chernobl
National leader's title: Monarch: King Alfred the Third. PM: Prime Minister Hans Ulmacht
Type of Political system: Constitutional Monarchy
Type of Economic System: Free Market Capitalist.

To: The Kingdom of Chernobl
From: The Commonwealth of Independent States

Your application has been accepted. The Holy Empire of Osea welcomes you to the Commonwealth.

Full nation name: Technocracy of Ascelonia
National leader's title: President Cedric Layham
Type of Political system: Democratic Merocratic Technocracy
Type of Economic System: Technocracy

To: Technocracy of Ascelonia
From: The Commonwealth of Independent States

Your application has been accepted. The Holy Empire of Osea is delighted that you have decided to join the Commonwealth.

To: The Commonwealth of Independent States
From: Technocracy of Ascelonia

We ask for economic assistance. Our nation is in peril. The government is on the verge of collapse.

To:The Commonwealth of Independent States
From: Fighter4u

For undisclosed reasons we have decided to leave the CIS.

OOC: A situation is being discussed in our forum Parliament. It is important that members take part. Here's a direct link (http://z13.invisionfree.com/CIS_Forums/index.php?showtopic=12&view=getnewpost).

IC:
To: The Technocracy of Ascelonia
From: The Commonwealth of Independent States

Economic assistance will be provided. CIS Treasury officials are now working on the best way to channel relief money into your economy. Other methods of assistance are being sorted out.

Bumping

Bump

Bump for members.

Full nation name: The Kingdom of Nordfire
National leader's title: King Peter I (A ceremonial role, really it's general Joseph Monks
Type of Political system: Dictatorship
Type of Economic System: Capitalism gone mad.

We would love to join this alliance, however we would like to keep our right not to allow people we don't want into our country.

To: The Kingdom of Nordfire
From: The Commonwealth of Independent States

Your application has been accepted.

[OoC; Just a small note, but it's accepted, not excepted.]

I request support from my fellow CIS nations, as I have been declared on unjustly by Riatto.

OOC: Don't worry, I've seen the thread. It looks like Riatto is quite unpopular. I'm sure that if he tries anything, he'll be crushed. If not, you have my support.

My nation is being threatened with war, even though our monarchy has been reinstated, I request help.

Ok, Madurastan could use some help from members in this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=577124). I'm also including a link to the Nordfire's thread here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=577149) and Ascelonia's civil war thread here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=576556). Both are military situations and it is important that our members are aided. I also wish to remind members that activity in our forums is essential.

OOC: Just to inform members, I changing the entry requirements. Any future nations that decide to join now need to have a population of at least 150 million for membership. I also wish to inform you that the Faction in Ascelonia's civil war that signed up with the CIS and is the original gverment, the TSA, is doing poorly and requires imediate assistance from members. However, if CIS members would prefere that we support a different faction, please inform me.

OOC: As you all likely know, the Grand World Order and Stoklomolvi are presently at war (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=577533). This will involve their alliances, the IFA and the Comintern. I need to know what members think our stance in this war should be. Also, Nordfire, I do know you are a member of the IFA. First, I ask why you have joined another allliance, especially since its head, the Grand World Order, is fighting against the the Technocratic States of Ascelonia in Ascelonia's civil war and the TSA is affectivly a member of this alliance. Considering your membership of the IFA, I especially need to know what your stance in this conflict is going to be.

Bump for more members

Todays Bump for more members. Always room for more members.

Bump

Federation of Cukarica

Official Comunique

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TO: Commonwealth of Independant States
From:The Federation of Cukarica


Federational Senate has been very interested in introducing Federation into CIS for a very long time,as our politicians analized current goals of CIS.
In that fact we officialy seek admitance to the Commonwealth of Independant States as a member.We are willing to help the parthneship both economicly and militarily.
We wish you sucesses in the future in all internal and external aspects of Goverment.


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Federation of Cukarica

To: The Federation of Cukarica
From: The Commonwealth of of Independant States

Your application to join the CIS has been accepted.

I especially need to know what your stance in this conflict is going to be.

OOC: I'll stay out of it.

OOC: Thats good to hear. Also I like to notify all of you that the alliance's flag has been changed to one created for us by Cukarica.

OOC: I like the new flag :)

I am still neutral if any fighting is still going on in the GWO-Stok conflict.

OOC: As far as I know, the only CIS nation involved in the GWO-Stok conflict is chernobyl.

To: The Holy Empire of Osea
From: The Most Secure Provinces and States of Galaxianda

We wish to join The Commonwealth of Independent States.

Full nation name: The Most Secure Provinces and States of Galaxianda
National leader's title: Federal President Eric Madeson
Type of Political system: Far-Left Wing Communist-Federal Empire
Type of Economic System: Free Trade Capitalist Republic

To: The Most Secure Provinces and States of Galaxianda
From: The Commonwealth of of Independant States

Your application to join the CIS has been accepted.

[OoC:]hope you like the new flag =),also i was defending Sans Semmes in Gwo-Stok thingy but currently im neutral

Federation of Cukarica


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TO:CIS members
FROM:Federation of Cukarica
Subject:Future plans

Future plans of CIS

Fellow CIS alliance members,as we are a peacefull alliance,we have no interest in participating in many wars that rage across the world.Our alliance is not based on hatred and bloodlust and it's not led by warmongering incompetent leaders who lead our peoples to doom and bloodshed.
So we leadership of Federation of Cukarica,invite all CIS member to a conference in our winter paradise Winterhoff to discuss important topics which our brave and wise alliance is facing.Many economic,international and interior questions are needed to be discussed and good decisions and conclusions to be brought to us.Some of our friends are locked in violent wars,and some are in process of rebuilding their economies they will need our aid and support.Wise CIS leadership has saved us from terors of world war between many countries and we have mainly preserved our powerhouse and our economic and military rating.Currently our brethren in Chernobl are being invaded by Fascist Dictatorship of Chazakain,so we also need to discuss if CIS will aid Chernobl.
Federational Goverement hereby declares first yearly CIS conference to be held in Winterhoff,Southern Bavarian States of the Federation.



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Federation of Cukarica

Cheers!

OOC: I'll be there once the threads up. Well done Cukarica.

[OoC]:Thank you very much,also the thread is coming up asap

Conference thread is up join up.

linky (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14385359#post14385359)

OOC: The application form has been edited.

Full nation name: The Commonwealth of Ventares
Population: 328 million
National leader's title: (5 national leaders) Director of commerce...domestic affairs...foreign affairs...the military...oversight
Type of Political system: federation run by a five-man directory
Type of Economic System: regulated capitalism
Current wars?(if any): none

To: The Commonwealth of Ventares
From: The Commonwealth of of Independant States

Your application to join the CIS has been accepted

Full nation name: The Twelve Colonies of Augmark
Population:948 Million
National leader's title: Chancellor of the Twelve Colonies
Type of Political system:Federal Republic
Type of Economic System:Capitalist/mixed
Current wars?(if any): None

Federation of Cukarica


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TO:The Twelve colonies of Augmark
FROM:The Federation of Cukarica
Subject:RE:Application to CIS


Thank you for your application,its currently being reviewed and analized by CIS Parliament.
Official CIS spokeperson wil inform your goverment about your application,also we must say that we don't see any obstacles for the Augmark to became a full member off The Commonwealth of Independent States.
Gratefully yours,
President Srecko Ilic
Federation of Cukarica




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Federation of Cukarica



[OoC:]So you basicly only need to wait for Osea to accept you and you're in.

To: The Twelve Colonies of Augmark
From: The Federation of Osea

Your application to join the CIS has been accepted.

OOC: This is just a reminder that the first First CIS International Conference is getting underway. There is a very limited time for members to get involved. As it will be hard to accomplish anything without more CIS members at the conference, I ask all members to get involved if they can.

Full nation name: The Confederacy of Laudren States
Population: 265 Million
National leader's title: Vice Roy
Type of Political system: Confederacy
Type of Economic System: Free market
Current wars?(if any): none

To: The Confederacy of Laudren States
From: The Federation of Osea

Your application to join the CIS has been accepted.

Bumping

OOC: First I wish to inform all members that Qaitia and Urcea no longer exist. I also wish to inform members that the CIS Conference had not died off and it would be good if all members try to take part in the thread.

Bump

OOC: As the CIS conference thread is barely active and there has not been much activity by CIS members lately, I ask all CIS members what they think could be done to improve the CIS. If any non-members have any suggestions, I'll be happy to consider them.

Bumping for interest

OoCFinaly repaired my damn computer,anything new happened guys?

Get into a war and win it that my idea how to improve CIS xD

Full nation name: The Empire of the Philippiniada
Population: 1.80 Billion
National leader's title: President, though there is a Emperor who is influencing the decisions of the government but have no real power.
Type of Political system: Democratic Constitutional Monarchy
Type of Economic System: Capitalistic
Current wars?(if any): None

Federation of Cukarica


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TO:The Empire of the Philippiniada
FROM:The Federation of Cukarica
Subject:RE:Application to CIS


Thank you for your application,its currently being reviewed and analized by CIS Parliament.
Official CIS spokeperson wil inform your goverment about your application,there are only minor bureaucratic issiues to resolve now until The Empire of the Philippiniada is accepted to The Commonwealth of Independent States.
Gratefully yours,
President Srecko Ilic
Federation of Cukarica




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Federation of Cukarica

Full nation name: The Federation of Serbian Soviet Union
National Leader's title: S verom U Boga Sloboda Ili Smrt
Type of Political system: Republic
Type of Economic System: Free-Market Paradise

OOC: Cukarica, I'll see what I can do.
IC:
To: The Empire of the Philippiniada, The Federation of Serbian Soviet Union
From: The Federation of Osea, on behalf of the CIS

The Commonwealth of Independent States is always happy to see nations joining it and we are happy to inform both of you that your applications have been accepted.

Application form

Full nation name: Dominion of Sarrowquand
Population: 5,000,000,000 (aprox)
National leader's title: 1st Speaker (Currently Rebbeca Silinky)
Type of Political system: Bureaucratic democracy
Type of Economic System: Managed
Current wars?(if any): None

We do have two concerns over membership that should be at least partly resolved now.
The first is free movement and settlement of citizens, we cannot allow this at present though in time we my be able to work out relaxed conditions for immigration into the Dominon
The second is maximum tarrifs, which we would like to renegotiate in time but will provisionaly accept untill this issue can be properly discussed.

Otherwise we commend you on an attempt to create a defensive allaince for stable nations of the world. We too are dismayed by the constant wars and warmongering of the NS world and hope that much of the CIS's activites will focused on the construction of a better world.

Edmund Edison (Grey 1)

Federation of Cukarica


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TO:Dominion of Sarrowquand
FROM:The Federation of Cukarica
Subject:RE:Application to CIS


Thank you for your application,its currently being reviewed and analized by CIS Parliament.
Your migration concern is noted and we think that there are no obstacles for you to join Commonwealth of Independent States as we are accepting all peace-loving and righteous countries to help us in our just cause.
Gratefully yours,
President Srecko Ilic
Federation of Cukarica




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Federation of Cukarica

To: The Dominion of Sarrowquand
From: The Federation of Osea, on behalf of the CIS

We are certainly ready to accept you into the CIS, and we are certain that your concerns can be resolved at a later point.

My nation is in tense relations with another. If war broke out, who would aid me?

Well, I'm always ready to help if you require it.

k thanx. but apperantly...its all better. But at least i know who to call when it gets worse

The Federation of Serbian Soviet Union withdraws it's application and will be resubmitting it in 3 weeks time.

OOC: I have an idea. Let the talks about CIS members' protection, financial aid, and a more developed constitution begin

OOC:Good idea,also you can count on me too for help always for immediate retaliation action against your agressors but it will take a little time to mobilize most of the CIS.

OOC: Laudren, I agree. If you want, I will create a thread later, either here or on the CIS forum.

OOC: Laudren, I agree. If you want, I will create a thread later, either here or on the CIS forum.

k, do as u wish ( here or there )

May i request help from the CIS Alliance on an ongoing offensive being made by the Empire?

Of course. As it is getting late where I am, I won't be able to put up a post for it untill later. Just so that other CIS members can know what Philippiniada is refering to, here is the thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=583767).

May i request help from the CIS Alliance on an ongoing offensive being made by the Empire?

Laudren has no problem with this but we too aer a bit tense in a situation. sos i cant promiss anything

No worries got it covered,but im realy inpatient about this thread :) --->OOC: I have an idea. Let the talks about CIS members' protection, financial aid, and a more developed constitution begin

So when thats gonna be placed? :)


Also guys please check out the Forums on daily basis for further alliance info.

Alright, I 've put up the thread, which is on this forum. Here's the link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14525834#post14525834).

Just in case anyone doen't know, the CIS is no longer participating in Philippiniada's offensive.

Just in case anyone doen't know, the CIS is no longer participating in Philippiniada's offensive.
ooc:

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ooc

Its not a matter of alliance its a matter of OOC reasons,as the other side doesnt want us to fight them.Also i have full confidence in Philippiiniada as he has more experience and larger force,and on the other hand if they push it, we will intervene.

20 000 CISFOR in the vicinity of the war front,also we can send massive armies if needed.

OOC: OK Anyway.. what about the meeting in that place

The Philippiniada is a great ally of mine and I have seen the way fellow nations wish to jump to her defence.Our nation, has rather recently got into the habit of anoying larger nations and going to war with them, we also got involved witht he 'Nuclear Coaliton' incident. In light of this central command belives joining an alliance will help develop us as a nation and help us on the world stage. Also is appears that the CIS is a more active of alliances, our nation wishes to know if the CIS is acepting new members?

Edit: Frack, just read pre-quesite population, is that still in effect?

We are accepting new members but some exceptions have been made about the 150 mill rule.Also you will have much larger chances if you arent involved in any military conflicts but if you realy cant get out of it we would assist you.So to get to the point if you are interested in joining fill out the short application Osea created and we will respond soon.


Also if you would be kind to give me a short explanation of Our nation, has rather recently got into the habit of anoying larger nations and going to war with them...

Communication From Central Command of The Wolf Hold

Full nation name: The Armed Republic Of The Wolf Hold
Population: 14 Million
National leader's title: 1st Wolf's Marshall
Type of Political system: Military Dictatorship
Type of Economic System: Military led industry
Current wars?(if any):
-Assisting Philippiniadaian Forces in the Invasion Of Comorostan
-Assisting Osea in the Elections in their breakaway provinces
-Defending my homeland from the forces of the Battlehawk and the Corprate Alliance.

When I said we have made a habbit of pissing larger nations off, I have been on this site for about a week (althought its not my first RPing site) and I have already managed to complelty and utterly set the CA against me by executing a Deserted Territoties couurier who had the audacity to come to my nation as it was under attack and present me with what basically an enslavement treaty.

Also we were the nation responsible for detonating a reactor onboard a nuclear sub and wipping out a large chunk of Four Heatons and GWO navies.
(OOC:That proably has sunk my chances)

We belive that joining an alliance will help are nation mature and develop to be the peacekeepers we strive to be. Also we are good allies of The Philippiniada, we belive that any alliance they are part of is definatly a trustworth alliance.

OOC: Is not as easy as i think it would be, Plus their inexperience and what i think is godmodding is really getting on my nerves (Mountain Borders at Wartime? but plain lands in peace time?)

EDIT:

I would really recommend Wolf's acceptance to the Alliance. He's been here a week and look at his whopping Post Count. Hell, I've been here a year all i got is 500. I really believe we need members like him.

i suggest we aid our ally again.

ooc

And i cheer to that! :) Federal guard is ready for action!

Sarrowquand is in favour of Wolf Hold joining.

Sarrowquand is in favour of Wolf Hold joining.

Same.

Well, I can now say i got the situation under control. In week's time. The Empire will have a new colony. :D

Madurastan is also in favor of Wolf Hold joining.

[OOC: Tsk, tsk. I wouldn't say that now. ;-)]

Well, given the current situation. I'll have things under control. Your support to the Comorostani delayed the inevitable. :D Your RPing skills did shake me off my seat a little bit. But i see your meddling with my logistics. I'll remind you there is a guard on the logistics chain. I'm not THAT stupid.

[OOC: Well, thank you for the compliment. :-)]

OOC: Philippiniada, I very much agree with you. I would have replied earlier to Wolf Holds application, but I've been out all day.
IC:
To: The Armed Republic Of The Wolf Hold
From: The Holy Empire of Osea, on behalf of the CIS

Your application to join the CIS has been accepted.

Current situation in Wolf Hold is alarming.All members put your troops on high alert.


this is the thread for the conflict http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=583899

just to update you the Deserted Territories and possibly the entire CA is about to break current cease-fire agreements and enage my ground, air and navy forces.

Man, Wolf. Your a warfreak. LOL

I had nothing to do with it this time, I am complelty innocent. Oh and there is a reason we are called an ARMED republic;)

OOC
Anyone in need of some kind of help?
Im so bored so i had to ask xD

OOC
I was, DT seems to of forgot about me :p

[OOC]Lol thats pretty good xP

OOC:
Meh, it would of given me somthing to do though

[OOC]By the way Wolfy,any way i could get a permanent military base on your soil?I was thinking about 50 000 men?CISFOR of course.

[OOC] Sure you can have a base, 50,000 men is fine. They can be CISFOR or even your own military i have no preference. I mean The Philidphina (sp?0) have their own base, so sure.

[OOC]Very well then i prefer them to be CISFOR as i think its better to have them.


IC:

The Federation of Cukarica

Diplomatic Statement

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr256/Nerzulon/CIS_logo.gif

Federation of Cukarica hereby declares,that a CISFOR peacekeeping base is being established at fort Wolverine in The Armed Republic of Wolf Hold due to recent troublesome and wartime events.
The peacekeeping force is made from:
150 000 CISFOR men from various states of the Commonwealth
850xViking MBT's
1200x "Lazar" APC
600x Neva-Pechora AA systems

in the airbase will be 3rd Fighter-Bomber command with:
60x FGFA 5th generation jet fighters
30x Tu-160 bombers
80x Eurocopter Tigers

Naval detachment will be comprised of:

FES "Varangian" Admiral Kuznetsov class carrier
FES "Tikidion" Admiral Kuznetsov class carrier
FES "Red Dawn" Zaitsev class carrier
FES "Securitatus" Zaitsev class carrier
FES "68" Neustrashimy class frigate
FES "78" Neustrashimy class frigate
FES "32" Neustrashimy class frigate
FES "15" Neustrashimy class frigate
FES "67" Neustrashimy class frigate
FES "46" Neustrashimy class frigate
FES "Tsar Dushan" Kirov class battlecruiser
FES "Sombor" Kirov class battlecruiser
FES "Admiral Malovich" Kirov class battlecruiser

and 7th Naval Brigade 10 000 men.
Federation keeps its right to as a CIS member deploy more forces to The Armed Republic of Wolf Hold in the times of a crisis.

Ha 50,000 would be about our entire expeditionary force. The Dominion might be willing to supplement your forces with a further 500 soldiers though. We would also be willing to pay for a small border fort in the area.

You may have the Fort free on behalf of the Wolf Hold Command. Also we wish to inform the CIS that me and Cukarica are spearheading a Peackeeping taskforce to the Albundania, as the situation seems to be deterorating. The Peackeeping force will consist of our own troops (or as far as I am aware) but we will be acting under the name of CISFOR.

Greetings,
Commonwealth of Independent States

The Constitutional Monarchy of Valladares would like to apply to the Commonwealth of Independent States.


Full nation name: The Constitutional Monarchy of Valladares
Population: 1.251 billion
National leader's title: His Royal Highness, King Charles V (For the Head of State), Prime Minister (For the Head of Government)
Type of Political system: Constitutional Monarchy
Type of Economic System: Unrestricted capitalism
Current wars?(if any): None

Full nation name: The Imperial Order of the Three Houses of Lonun
Population: 4.43 billion
National leader's title: Emperess Tara Whyt
Type of Political system: Monarchy
Type of Economic System: Unrestricted Capitalism
Current wars?(if any): None.

You may have the Fort free on behalf of the Wolf Hold Command. Also we wish to inform the CIS that me and Cukarica are spearheading a Peackeeping taskforce to the Albundania, as the situation seems to be deterorating. The Peackeeping force will consist of our own troops (or as far as I am aware) but we will be acting under the name of CISFOR.

There is one problem. Legaly the Third Dominion is not permitted to own territory outside of the accepted borders of Sarrowquand so we will have to rent the site from the Wolf Hold.

To: The Constitutional Monarchy of Valladares, The Imperial Order of the Three Houses of Lonun
From: The Holy Empire of Osea, on behalf of the CIS

Your applications to join the CIS has been accepted.

Madurastan welcomes The Constitutional Monarchy of Valladares and The Imperial Order of the Three Houses of Lonun to the CIS.

There is one problem. Legaly the Third Dominion is not permitted to own territory outside of the accepted borders of Sarrowquand so we will have to rent the site from the Wolf Hold.


Very well, what would be an aceptable price for you to rent the land?


The Wolf Hold welcomes The Constitutional Monarchy of Valladares and The Imperial Order of the Three Houses of Lonun to the CIS.

Any price would be fine as long as we pay something, 1Usd a year would do in a pinch.

1 USD it is a year then, after the first installmet, the land is yours.

No no we can't take territory. Its unconstitutional to expand the Dominion past the accepted borders of Sarrowquand. I know its strange but the last generation wanted to make it difficult for us to wage war and illegal foir us to fight a war of conquest.

Please allow us to rent the space at 1 USD a year and the land remains yours.

(its also illegal for our government to give up territory)

if you're in this alliance can you join another alliance as well?

[OOC]
Yeah i think,but it doesnt change your membership status and you still have to help out other members.
Also some alliances are definetly against CIS stands for so you should carefully pick out who do you ally with.

UPDATE:Commonwealth of Independent States NS region has been formed,invites have been sent to all members

[OOC]
Yeah i think,but it doesnt change your membership status and you still have to help out other members.
Also some alliances are definetly against CIS stands for so you should carefully pick out who do you ally with.

UPDATE:Commonwealth of Independent States NS region has been formed,invites have been sent to all members

OOC: Well, I'm in both the IFA and the CIS, so I'm fairly screwed. :D

[ooc]

OOC: Well, I'm in both the IFA and the CIS, so I'm fairly screwed. :D

Make love not warcraft.

[ooc]



Make love not warcraft.

OOC: *dances in underpants*

Ok you may rent the land, we awit the first payment

We will send you one hundred dollars (100USD) for the first century. Then we will begin preparations for transferring equipment and set up the base. We thank you for your cooperation and apologise for the mild inconvenience.

OOC: Void, I don't have have any interest in starting a war with the IFA, so that should not be a problem. Just in case though, it could be helpful if you were to act as a representive for the CIS to the IFA, to help us avoid getting into a fight with them, if you are willing to accept.

OOC: Void, I don't have have any interest in starting a war with the IFA, so that should not be a problem. Just in case though, it could be helpful if you were to act as a representive for the CIS to the IFA, to help us avoid getting into a fight with them, if you are willing to accept.

What did i miss?

OOC: ._. what 'bout the conference

War with the IFA? That's big...

Wow, war with the IFA sicince when?

i dont think theres a war..
XD

Oh, I was going to say, I may be staring the GWO down over a newbie nation, but I never heard of a war.

Gentlemen,I see that we have come to some issiues with the Nazi's and i also want to inform you that im with you whatever happens.

OOC: Perhaps I should have chosen my words better. No, there isn't a war with the IFA. I just wanted to assure Void that I have no intention of starting one and was asking if he would willing to act as a representive for the CIS to the IFA to hopefully help us reduce the chance of one occuring as best as we can. Also, Laudren, I apogize for my lack of responce to the Conference thread and will try to post as soon as I can.

OOC: Thats ok buddy, take ur time :P

OOC: When you asked about the conference thread, I thought you were refering to this newer thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=583970) rather than the thread you bumped, which died off quite a while ago.

[OOC]
Im back,with a vengeance lol.
Basicly lads i just wanted to ask you do you have any ideas on improving the alliance.
Also war against mentioned party will not happen,unless there is some huge breaking of our rules mentioned in our Charter.
And i must sadly say that the old thread is dead :(
EDIT:
Lads add me on MSN so we could avoid these unpleasant things,and guys check out the forums for few new proposals and vote.

EDIT2:Voting for Defence and Economic delegate will be taken ICly and with a poll so other nations can vote too,so who will create the thread?

Full nation name: The Federated States of Nehrland
Population: 1.81 Billion
National leader's title: President
Type of Political system: Federal Constitutional Republic
Type of Economic System: Market Economy
Current wars?(if any): None.

Void, I don't have have any interest in starting a war with the IFA, so that should not be a problem. Just in case though, it could be helpful if you were to act as a representive for the CIS to the IFA, to help us avoid getting into a fight with them, if you are willing to accept.

OOC: Aye, sure. I'm aiming for VT to be a sort of good fascism anyway, keeping the peace while executing 'dissidents' so that fits snugly into me IC plans. Posting on the New Constantinople thread now.

Oh yeah if any CIS members want to establish embassies in my nation this is the link.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=566280

A while ago i had an idea of creating CIS map.
So anyone interested should post claims here.
I assume you guys wont have a problem of us using the RL world map and dividing the teritories?
Please tell me what you think,and post your claims.

A while ago i had an idea of creating CIS map.
So anyone interested should post claims here.
I assume you guys wont have a problem of us using the RL world map and dividing the teritories?
Please tell me what you think,and post our claims.

Just a bit of advice, making your own map is 1000X better than using RL land. Plus it looks better to most people.

Just a bit of advice, making your own map is 1000X better than using RL land. Plus it looks better to most people.

Good point to be honest.
So ill try to create it,and then you guys post claims.

To: The Federated States of Nehrland
From: The Holy Empire of Osea, on behalf of the CIS

Your application to join the CIS has been accepted.

Good point to be honest.
So ill try to create it,and then you guys post claims.

Check the right hand side of my sig for Lonun's map. 'tis an island near the North Pole, think where Iceland is.

Monthly alliance action report and summary

UPDATED


Current number of members:16
Current member states under attack: 0
Current member states in need of economic aid: 0
Current treaties at vote:1
Overseas deployments:1

-Watching the situtation in Albundandia

CISFOR

Commonwealth of Independent States Land Forces

CISFOR troops currently deployed:160 000
CISFOR troops in various bases:4 000 000
CISFOR active personel:15 000 000
CISFOR reserve personel: UNKNOWN


CISNAV

Commonwealth of Independent States Naval Forces

CISNAV troops currently deployed:20 000
CISNAV troops in various bases: 500 000
CISNAV active personel:12 000 000
CISNAV reserve personel: UNKNOWN

Current troops deployed overseas:

Troops deployed by the Federation of Cukarica:120 000 men
Troops deplyed by The Armed Republic of Wolf Hold:32 000 men
Troops deployed by The Dominion of Sarrowguand:500 men
Troops deployed by other members of the Commonwealth: 7 500 men

Gentlemen,this is monthly report on CIS actions,so please if i missed something tell me.

ALSO please inform me how much men are you willing to put under CIS flag or if you have any ideas regarding this.

[OOC] Posted the preliminary topographic map on the forums.Post your claims gentlemen,also sorry about double post.

OOC: Could someone TG/PM me a summary of the civil war in Albundandia? Since the CIS are watching it and GWO and EC from the IFA are fighting in it, I feel I should have some basic knowledge. I'd read through it myself, but I have several different courseworks that need to be in by the end of the week. >.<

OOC: Shouldnt the summary be put up hear for all of the CIS nations to see where there troops are being sent. If no one does it I will

OOC: Shouldnt the summary be put up hear for all of the CIS nations to see where there troops are being sent. If no one does it I will

OOC: Better idea then what I had. :$

[OOC]All ideas welcome :) also we need much to discuss on the forums,like who wants CISFOR bases,Naval bases,how many,how many troops is willing to deploy in CISFOR etc...

Offical CISFOR/CISNAV Deployment Report
Subject: Conflict in Albundania

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1548/cism.jpg


Situation (Brief Synopses):
1) A uprising by Communists and Nazis breaks out in Albundania and engage in a three way conflict with each other and the Democratic Government
2)United Gordonopia sends Special Forces to assist Democratic Government
3)Governments of Jakra and Commorostan send troops to assist Democratic Government
4)GWO sends statement in support of fascists/Nazi rebels, declares war on Albundanian communists
5)East Congaree sends statement of support for communists and ready’s troops
6)Allanea condemns Communists
7)Fighting ensues
8)Allanea troops deploy
9)CISFOR issue statement on a peacekeeping stance
10)CISFOR issue Secret statement supporting Democratic Government
11)CISFOR troops receive landing co-ordinates but do not move
12)More fighting, no CISFOR intervention
13)Allena Withdraws due to GWO-Stok war
14)More Fighting, No CISFOR movement
15)Current Day

CIS Position(As of last check):
CISFOR is officially there as a peacekeeping force, after this task was proved to be fruitless, CISFOR under Cukarica command decided to side with the democratic government against the rebels, the rebels themselves don’t know this however EC was told by Comorostan about the CIS backing. So far not a single offensive move has been made by CISFOR or CISNAV.

*UPDATE* CISFOR/CISNAV Has now moved to assist goverment forces and is assisting in the suppresion of the PLAV (Communist Rebels)
Other Governments Involved:

Albundania: Forces Unknown at this time

United Gordonopia:
1 Perkins Class Carrier
4 Lincoln Class Cruisers
7 Hyperion Class Destroyers

Jakra:
-15,000 Troops
-250 Leopard 2E MBTS
-300 Puma IFVs and Stryker APCs
-350 Tactical truck Systems(HUMMVEEs style vehicle)
-150 SP field guns and rocket launchers
-45 AA vehicles (gun+ missle combo)
-100 V-100 helicopter gunship’s
-100 Osprey and Blackhawk transport helicopters

Comorostan:
Expeditionary Strike Force
3,000 soldiers (does not count support personnel)
40 AMX-13 light tanks
60 FV103 Spartan APCs
30 FV102 Striker ATGM carriers
20 FV107 Scimitar recon vehicles
15 Stormer SP SAM launchers

Quick response Unit:
150 soliders
20 AMX-13 light tanks
30 FV103 Spartan APCs, each carrying five troops
15 FV102 Striker ATGM carriers
20 FV107 Scimitar recon vehicles
7 Stormer SP SAM launchers

Air Component
30 L-39ZO Albatross attack aircraft
15 C-160 Transall transports
20 AMX fighters

Naval Component
4 Type 23 frigates each carrying
-1 Merlin helicopter
2 Albion class amphibious assault ships carrying
-CH-53E Super Stallion helicopters
-CH-113 Labrador helicopters
-Merlin helicopters
1 Invincible class VSTOL aircraft carrier carrying
-10 Sea Harrier fighters
-8 Harrier II attack aircraft
-2 Merlin helicopters

East Congaree:

Task Force Sonora
40 Whiskey Class Submarines
20 Kirov Class Battlecruisers
100 Jianghu-I Class Frigates
2 Nimitz Class Carriers with 30 F/A-18s and 15 EA-18G Growlers each
10 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
150 Osa Class Missile Boats
Five East Congaree Infantry divisions (70,000 Troops) in Troop Carriers
One Division of the Sonora Rangers (14,000 Troops) in Troop Carriers
One Regiment of East Congaree Marines (2,000 Troops) in Troop Carriers
20 75mm Artillery Batteries (160 75mm Howitzers, crew, and two hundred shells per howitzer)
4 125mm Artillery Batteries (32 Howitzers, crew, and several dozen shells per howitzer)
50 Katyusha MLRS trucks
40 T-34 Tanks in Troop Carriers
20 T-55 Tanks in Troop Carriers

CISFOR Units:

Wolf Hold CISFOR Assault Force
CinC- 4th Wolf’s Marshall Belic

5th Fleet CO- Wolf’s Admiral Carlson
-WHS Lombax- Longsword-Class Super Capital Guided Missile Cruiser
-WHS White Fang II Wolf-Class Battleship/Commandship
-WHS Clank Nimitz-Class Aircraft Carrier
-WHS Ranked and Firhold Kirov-Class Battlecruisers
-4x Aegis Cruisers
-6x Oliver Hazard Perry Frigates
-10x WASP Assault ships
-3x ASW Frigates

4th Marine Division: CO- Major General Corbec
15,000 men
-200 M1A2 Abrams
-400 LAV-25s
-40 Linebacker M3 AAV
-50 Harrier Aircraft
-100 AH-1Z Super Cobra Gunship’s
-50 CH-53 Super Stallion

1st Heavy Armored Assault Divison CO- Wolf’s General Mayham
-250 NPS MBT140
-250 M.A.C M1-T958 W/155mm Gun
-50 HIMARS
-30 Stormer HVM missiles
-10 Tor AA Systems

3rd AID Group CO- Major Baskevyl
-5000 Wolf Legion Commandos
-200 Red Cross Volunteers
-Support Vehicles
-20 AH-1Z Super Cobras

8th Naval Air Wing
-22 F22Ns
-6 E/A-18 Growlers

Main CISFOR/CISNAV

85 000x regular CISFOR
10 000x CISFOR mountain Rangers
10 000x CISFOR Naval Infantry
400x Viking MBT
300x Challenger II MBT
900x Lazar APC
100x Neva-Pechora mobile AA systems
200x PzH-2008 SPG

CISNAV is deploying:
1x Ark Angel AC
2x Kratik AC
3x AC-67 RFK
3x Zaitsev AC
2x B-13 Bohemia nuclear-powered battleships
5x End All battleships
4x BC-1 Naseby nuclear-powered battlecruisers
10x Kirov battlecruisers
3x BC-1 battlecruisers
10x MC-16 large cruisers
20x DDH-30 destroyers
6x MC-16 Fort Shaw nuclear-powered large cruisers
8x DDH-30 Requin helicopter destroyers
6x AS-709 Omega nuclear-powered attack submarines
10x Ticonderoga cruisers
40x Milgem corvettes

CISAF deployed: ~400x FGFA 5th gen fighters on carriers
~50x F-35 II Lightning on carriers
~From the bases in Wolf Hold
20x Tu-160
40x FGFA
30x Eurocopter Tigers

OOC: Ta, Wolf's Hold.
Aaah, my hands are very much tied >.< I can't fight a single one of the factions in this :/
GWO is an ally, and is helping the Nazis as is his wont.
EC is an ally and helping the communists (I thought he was helping the Nazis, not the communists?)
And you lads are allies and helping the democrats.

OOC: Basically what I said, oh and I checked EC is supporting the communists.

[OOC]Bloody well done WH.:)


UPDATE

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14570504&postcount=150

Bump

I don't think anything is happening, relating to the CIS I mean.

Full nation name: The People's Republic of Astholm
Population: 100,000+
National leader's title: Prime Minister
Type of Political system: Republic
Type of Economic System: Free market
Current wars?(if any): None

To: The People's Republic of Astholm
From: The Holy Empire of Osea, on behalf of the CIS

Your application to join the CIS has been accepted.

Bumped for interest i assume

did i miss anything, although i think i remember that i checked on the threads, but with a clouded mind i can barely remember if i remembered to check up on this, not to mention that i most likely dream things up but later remember them as true things that actually happened, which gets on my nerves cus i go telling friends things i remembered happened, but then they( who are in what i remembered ) say it never happened, so I'm left to think that what i remembered is a dream not reality, but my mind remembered it as truth, which probably means i dreamed that i went ta tha computer, but in a dream, and i have no knowing of it being tru or not...anyway did i miss anything, oh and i might be out for a week :( oh well.

@In short terms nothing new happened worth mentioning ,and your question is very confusing,i though you just got high and posted

Bumpity bump

Its time for old fationed Bumperoni

A bump(eroni) for what?? are we occ'ing something here??

A bump(eroni) for what?? are we occ'ing something here??

For aplications...

Full nation name: Republic of Boxxy Land.
Population: 5 million.
National leader's title: Queen Boxxy the first.
Type of Political system: Psychotic Fascist Dictatorship.
Type of Economic System: 3rd position Fascism.
Current wars?(if any): Between Mewsland.

Full nation name: Republic of Boxxy Land.
Population: 5 million.
National leader's title: Queen Boxxy the first.
Type of Political system: Psychotic Fascist Dictatorship.
Type of Economic System: 3rd position Fascism.
Current wars?(if any): Between Mewsland.




We apologise but your application is denied.

Reasons:
1.Opressive political system.
2.Too weak economy.
3.Involved in a war.

[OOC:]
You should have read the CIS charter before you applied,and
after seeing your posts,
obviously you didn't read the stickies,that should be your first thing to do.
Trolling is simply idiotic.

ooc: Can we deny people based on their political system? I didn't think we were a democracy club.

I take it the trolling stuff is based on their other posts?

I take it the trolling stuff is based on their other posts?
ooc Sarrowquand you be right on that

OOC: yeah I wondered if it was a new player in high spirits at first rather then a puppet, but after reading those posts...

[OOC]

I take it the trolling stuff is based on their other posts?

Just like Isa said,i checked Boxxy's post history,and he's obviously a troll.

Can we deny people based on their political system? I didn't think we were a democracy club.

I just had to make up some IC reason lol,joking well according to the charter he has some other problems we are not willing to accept here,but if you have a problem with the no.1 reason il just re-edit it. :)
I denied it myself as i dont think we need to debate on troll joining CIS lol

Yeah, I mostley wanted to know for the future.

Reasons:
1.Opressive political system.
2.Too weak economy.
3.Involved in a war.[/FONT]

OOC: 4. It mentions the Great Satan.

OOC: Why do I get the sneaking suspicion that "Members of the CIS shall not levy tariffs exceeding more than 3% against fellow member states" sounds a lot like "Members of ODECON shall not levy tariffs exceeding more than 3% against fellow member states"...

OOC: Why do I get the sneaking suspicion that "Members of the CIS shall not levy tariffs exceeding more than 3% against fellow member states" sounds a lot like "Members of ODECON shall not levy tariffs exceeding more than 3% against fellow member states"...



so, i dont think thats a problem. not like the worlds gonna end, and plus, its one thing that really dosent matter.

OOC: Why do I get the sneaking suspicion that "Members of the CIS shall not levy tariffs exceeding more than 3% against fellow member states" sounds a lot like "Members of ODECON shall not levy tariffs exceeding more than 3% against fellow member states"...

OOC: Well, because 15 words out of 16 are the same. That'd probably be why. :D

Bump

so, i dont think thats a problem. not like the worlds gonna end, and plus, its one thing that really dosent matter.

OOC: Just wondering. Ripping off my writing seems to be the big thing among new alliances; at least you only took one line :D

[OOC]

OOC: Just wondering. Ripping off my writing seems to be the big thing among new alliances; at least you only took one line :D

I realy doubt that Osea intended to steal that line from you,also if it was ripped from your charter,it only shows that you are a great writer.

lol Yup great indeed

lol Yup great indeed

[OOC] I was reffering to most of his RP-posts,not only that one line.

yea i know, its kinda stupid to think someone is a good writer from just one line, unless they are philosophical or something

Shameless bump for aplications

General heads up, It looks like I am heading for a minor conflict with ODECON, its over the naval embargos of Anghele due to human rights violations, also Crookfur has practically declared that he will seize/sink any of my ships he comes across.

TWH - he's not saying that; he's saying that you can't trade with, or through, Crookfur. If your ships don't ever go into his waters, then they're safe.

Also in line with the re-arming of the CIS military we are purchasing goods from M.A.C, when these shipments are sent they will be guarded by CISNAV fleets and once again any attempt to stop and seize/search thse shipments will be seen as a hostile action towards the CIS.
-Wolf Hold

I didn't agree with this. i dont think anyone did.

Part of CIS Defence Delegate General Ibram Gaunt who YOU elected polices was the re-armament of CISM. He selected MAC to be one of these suppliers, also he has the authority to deploy CISNAV task forces as he sees fit, although a vote by the CIS or if the two deputy defence delegates are in agreement can have such forces re-called. Also he never said he was actually sending them, it was a warning that he would.

ooc:ok.. must have misread.

btw: i never voted for you. :p

OOC: Lol, its ok. Oh you voted for the other party did you? :eek: :mad:

Well it is irrelevent, unless the CIS vetos the deployment or Cukarica and Osea disagree then CISNAV forces can be deployed.

lol, jk, i did vote for you, but i wanted to see ur reaction :D

Lol, well then you have no reason to complain ^^ Oh and thanks.

OOC: Wolf, TG

Wolf im sure the generous feeling you had came out of your pocket. $ 400,000,000,000

Of course I wouldnt miss appropriate CIS funds, Well okay there was that one time.....

hmmm... Well, if your ok with it then i am too

What were those MAC tanks just bought with CIS funds?

what were what now?

Originally Posted by Laudren
To: M.A.C Heavy Industries | Defense
From: Confederacy of Laudren

If you dont mind, we would like to buy twenty(20) TM-2 Cheetah tanks for a total of US$130,000,000

Thank you
Laudren

Did that come out of your pocket or the CIS?

oh, i c, well thats laudrens own pocket money.

Very good, can't have the wrong people abusing the CISMs budget

Wrong People... What do you mean by that!

Oh nothing....nothing at all. I mean only the Defence Delegates should have acsess to the CISM budget.

[OOC]

Jeez im off for one day and you get into sh*t :S
*Amazed*

OOC: This is ME you are talking about, I could start a fight with every nation on NS in five minutes if I wanted to. Are you really that amazed.

OOC: You came close to conflict with an ODECON member twice in as many days, I think :D

OOC: Very close and complelty un-intentional :D, although I'd rather not drag the CIS into a war considering Osea made me and Sarrowquand temporary heads whilsts he is away.

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Jeez im off for one day and you get into sh*t :S
*Amazed*

eww!! *gets out of sh!t...takes a shower.* All better.. Anyways Cukarica, im trully sorry for all the trouble The Wolf Hold has caused:tongue:

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Just a few things for everyone to have in mind

Also in line with the re-arming of the CIS military we are purchasing goods from M.A.C, when these shipments are sent they will be guarded by CISNAV fleets and once again any attempt to stop and seize/search thse shipments will be seen as a hostile action towards the CIS.

I hope that you are aware that i can veto the ussage of CISFOR/NAV/AF.

However we do purchase almost 70% of our military equipment from M.A.C

It is your own thing from whom you buy your equipment,but as we are speaking of CISFOR forces its needed that other members agree with this,or that we make a tender or something similar.

also he has the authority to deploy CISNAV task forces as he sees fit

Wolf General Gaunt is only a representative of the Joint Chief of Staffs of the Commonwealth Defence Bureau.


although a vote by the CIS or if the two deputy defence delegates are in agreement can have such forces re-called

Not so correct as any member could veto the usage of CISFOR on valid grounds.


Also guys using joint CIS budget for buying equipment for domestic armies is forbidden as you have you own military budget to buy equipment with.
Off course this could be different in some extreme situations but i dont see its an extreme situation.

Oh nothing....nothing at all. I mean only the Defence Delegates should have acsess to the CISM budget.

I agree,but the Defense delegate cant do anything if anyone from the Joint chiefs object.



eww!! *gets out of sh!t...takes a shower.* All better.. Anyways Cukarica, im trully sorry for all the trouble The Wolf Hold has caused

Nah,im used to it :D joikng this aint trouble its just fun.



I preffer to stay out of big conflicts until Osea gets back as he is the current leader of the Commonwealth,so please dont overdo yourselves.

OOC

In all fairness I don't think we have a set down system for how the SISNAV/FOR/AF etc can be used, so basically I racked my brains for a suitable system. Like I said the two deputy delegates Cukarica and the other largest contributer to the CISM which at the moment is Osea (however as he is the leader of the CIS that pracically makes his vote law) . I think this is somthing we really need to clairfy very soon as the CISFOR/NAV/AF is the most public face of the CIS it is also the part most used in RPs.

The joint Cheifs of staff as you say Cukarica who are they actually? As far as I am aware the only human controled effectors on the CISM is Osea as the leader of the CIS, General Gaunt and the two deputys. Can you see my point, there is no defined command structure of the CISM or for that matter the CIS in general.

Also I never actually deployed CIS assests it was merly a warning, infact I was in contact with several ODECON members all the time ensuring we never got into a conflict with ODECON or any of the other states involved in the crisis. Infact Santhres TGed me with an offer for a small naval conflict and ensuing diplomatic incident however I politly declined stating that only Osea could authorise such an action due to it possible repercussions.

Trust me I may appear anarchic, disruptive and generally get into lots of trouble but I wont go as far to drag the CIS into war we are not prepared to fight/

Yea i agree.
i think that no one ever thought it would go this far. so no one planed for it. i dont even know if we have a constitution. if we have one then that would solve all our probs. cus we could propose amendments ect.

Well I'm certainly against fighting ODECON for trivial reasons given that the Dominion government thinks quite highly of both Leistung and Zinaire.

I'd also add that until our assets are in order it would be a bit messy for us to fight against anyone in an alliance scale conflict. The last few pages of OOC chatter indicate that we need to go through a process of confirming all of our forces and then providing them with comanders and authority (I appreciate Wolf Hold needs a budget and CIS member contributions finalised to achieve this) and that we also need to set up a system of appropriate responsibility to prevent both abuse of our resources and he loss of our ability to act.

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In all fairness I don't think we have a set down system for how the SISNAV/FOR/AF etc can be used, so basically I racked my brains for a suitable system. Like I said the two deputy delegates Cukarica and the other largest contributer to the CISM which at the moment is Osea (however as he is the leader of the CIS that pracically makes his vote law) . I think this is somthing we really need to clairfy very soon as the CISFOR/NAV/AF is the most public face of the CIS it is also the part most used in RPs.

It's correct that we don;t have a set down system for Coalition troops,but i think that it should be used by Joint chiefs of staff.
And definately it realy needs to be clarified.
I had in an idea that a country can use CISFOR troops based on its own soild but only if other members dont object.

The joint Cheifs of staff as you say Cukarica who are they actually? As far as I am aware the only human controled effectors on the CISM is Osea as the leader of the CIS, General Gaunt and the two deputys. Can you see my point, there is no defined command structure of the CISM or for that matter the CIS in general.

There is bo defined structure,but a force of ~million men can't be controlled by three men,as it would prove as huge logistical and support fail.
Joint Chiefs i mentioned is the Commonwealth Defence Bureau,and every member state has a military representative in it,i suggest it should be modeled as a council,with elections every 5-6 months/less/more,with the Leader of the council(current Wolf General Gaunt) being a representative and a host,and a fine example something like a moderate prime minister.


Also I never actually deployed CIS assests it was merly a warning, infact I was in contact with several ODECON members all the time ensuring we never got into a conflict with ODECON or any of the other states involved in the crisis. Infact Santhres TGed me with an offer for a small naval conflict and ensuing diplomatic incident however I politly declined stating that only Osea could authorise such an action due to it possible repercussions.

Smart move :)

Trust me I may appear anarchic, disruptive and generally get into lots of trouble but I wont go as far to drag the CIS into war we are not prepared to fight/

Ill make a pupet called Ramboland,so we could kick shit out of everyone/jk.
There is no problem with that i dont mind you being a warmonger :) joking.

Last point i want to say is that


WE NEED TO LEGISLATE AND TO MAKE A CONSTITUTION,AND ALSO IMPROVE THE CHARTER!

Thank you,and have a good day gentlemen.

OOC: Okay guys, we have all proably seen the crap going down with Anghele, I have recived a request from him for the CIS to lead an invasion of Anghele.

He is asking this as he trusts the CIS alot more then ODECON or any of the other alliances. Trust me it will be a short war with him and then it will be over, it might be a good time to sort out some of the kinks in the CISM as well as a joint CIS exercise. With the amount of history with Anghele we should have no problem finding a reason for the invasion.

Anyone got any problems with said invasion?

OOC: Tell Anghele that we aren't going to invade him, ever. He needs to stop finding hidden messages between our lines of text that all clearly say we will not invade him

I´m not worried about you.

OOC: Is there a way to be a provisional member until I have 150 Million Pop?

ooc
OOC: Is there a way to be a provisional member until I have 150 Million Pop?

yep,just post an aplication.

OOC: Okay guys, we have all proably seen the crap going down with Anghele, I have recived a request from him for the CIS to lead an invasion of Anghele.

He is asking this as he trusts the CIS alot more then ODECON or any of the other alliances. Trust me it will be a short war with him and then it will be over, it might be a good time to sort out some of the kinks in the CISM as well as a joint CIS exercise. With the amount of history with Anghele we should have no problem finding a reason for the invasion.

Anyone got any problems with said invasion?

Until we get internal affairs done i wont go with it

Application form

Full nation name: Federation of the Serbian Soviet Union
Population: 287 million
National leader's title: President Vojislav Ljubicic
Type of Political system: Capitalist Paradise/Conservative Nationalism
Type of Economic System: All-Consuming

The Federation of the Serbian Soviet Union expresses it's interests in joining the Commonwealth of Independent States due to the growth in our nation in population, an ever lasting growing economy and therefore we wish to establish all trade with all the member states of the CIS, establish a diplomatic relationship with all the members and by joining the CIS, we are ensuring the protection of our nation and an ever lasting democratic system in our nation. The security of my nation will also improve drastically by joining this coalition, we have a strong desire in joining the CIS and improving FSSU in all sectors in the millitary, economy and politically.

Signed,
Vojislav Ljubicic
President

A vote for your entrance will be held shortly. This may take a few days to gather the required number of votes.

Application form

Full nation name: The Federation Of Lingard
Population: 54
National leader's title: President
Type of Political system: Federal Democracy
Type of Economic System: Sensible Capitilstm
Current wars?(if any): None

OOC: For our military structure, I would recommend deciding on High Command heads for CISFORs army, navy and air force, each to control their service branch. These should be selected by the Commonwealth Defence Bureau from CIS volunteers. They would be under the overall control of a CISFOR high command, which will be responsible for deciding the overall strategy of the CIS armed forces.

For the present, this will be the Commonwealth Defence Bureau. I believe it should also be given the power to authorize any serious deployment of CISFOR forces. However the Heads of the individual branches will be be authorized to conduct small scale deployments without requiring authorization from the Commonwealth Defence Bureau.

IC:
To: The Federation of Lingard
From: The Holy Empire of Osea, on Behalf of the CIS.

Your application to join the CIS has been accepted.

Application form

Full nation name: Federation of the Serbian Soviet Union
Population: 287 million
National leader's title: President Vojislav Ljubicic
Type of Political system: Capitalist Paradise/Conservative Nationalism
Type of Economic System: All-Consuming

The Federation of the Serbian Soviet Union expresses it's interests in joining the Commonwealth of Independent States due to the growth in our nation in population, an ever lasting growing economy and therefore we wish to establish all trade with all the member states of the CIS, establish a diplomatic relationship with all the members and by joining the CIS, we are ensuring the protection of our nation and an ever lasting democratic system in our nation. The security of my nation will also improve drastically by joining this coalition, we have a strong desire in joining the CIS and improving FSSU in all sectors in the millitary, economy and politically.

Signed,
Vojislav Ljubicic
President

By joining the CIS, the FSSU 3 main objectives will be to improve relations with all the members of the CIS also improving it's relations in the international community. Second main objective will be to improve all trade relations within the CIS and in the international community and establishing a free trade agreement with all the members of the CIS and removing tariffs. Third main objective is to participate to the fullest extent in the CIS and will take everysingle opportunity to take an active role in the CIS and it's activities and send peace keepers to where it's needed and upon request by the CIS.

To: President Vojislav Ljubicic of the Federation of the Serbian Soviet Union

I regret to inform you that at this time the Commonwealth of Independent States is unable to offer you membership, however a future application may prove more successfull, as such I would like to encourage you to apply again further on down the line. Good luck and best wishes.

E.Nefzen
CIS representative, Sarrowquand

OOC:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=590524

Requesting urgent Naval support from any and all CIS members, naval forces under mass ODECON attack.

Will edit later with better discription

OOC:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=590524

Requesting urgent Naval support from any and all CIS members, naval forces under mass ODECON attack.

Will edit later with better discription

OOC:
I do hope that TWH wont mind me explaining for him.

During anti-pirate patrols in their waters, Parilisan ships came across an unkown submarine. It's origin was, in fact, The Wolf Hold, and it was illegally in Parilisan waters. When asked by the Parilisans to identify itself, the sub gave no reply and began diving. the Parilisan and nearby Adenian ships assumed that it was hostile (as any sensible navy would) and began firing upon it. Shortly after they began doing so, a nearby joint TWH-Nachmerian fleet sent a messge to the Parilisan and Adenian ships demanding that they stand down. the Adenians replied that the TWH-Nachmerian fleet was in violation of Parilisa's national waters and instructed them to leave immediatey, warning that failure to do so would constitute an act of war. The Nachmerian ships ignored these instructions and began sending fighters into the air. The Adenian ships responded with a missile attack on the fighters and the two groups of ships began trading fire. A Salzlander missile strike was then called upon the Nachmerian fleet, and the TWH fleet launched a missile attack upon a nearby Parilisan city.

If there are any inaccuracies, please inform me and I shall correct them.

OOC: Damm. Well I won't be able to take a proper look at the thread untill tommorrow.

EDIT: Thanks Sumguy.

Thanks Sumguy, thats it dead on.

OOC: Damm. Well I won't be able to take a proper look at the thread untill tommorrow.

EDIT: Thanks Sumguy.

OOC Same...

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To: Commonwealth of Independent States
From: ODECON Office of Foreign Affairs

As you may well know by now, there has been an altercation between aggressive military assets of the Wolf Hold and those of several members of ODECON in defense of Parilisa. It is with the assumption that the Commonwealth would come to the aid of her member state that I write to you now. Please hear my words, before this conflict turns into a war from which we cannot turn away.

Forces deployed by ODECON are currently in question, as I am trying my hardest to limit deployments or withdraw whatever ships member states may be sending. I may only be able to restrain them to territorial waters defense, but even that is a diplomatic victory.

Diplomacy is, however, a two-way street. Please refrain from sending naval assets to reinforce those of the Wolf Hold. I am in contact with the leadership of your ally asking for withdrawal from the area. As of your receipt of this message, I am also personally speaking to at least one national leader of ODECON asking for the same from them. Contributing more ships will only worsen the situation and I fear for our future relations should you not heed my request.

Please do not allow this to turn into war. There is far too much at stake, and absolutely nothing to gain.

Pax tibi,
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Alessandra Condozzi

OOC: Any future messages to the alliance will be in the Piracy thread, rather than here, so please check there after this. I just figured this is the best way to get initial attention.