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Imperial isa
03-11-2008, 22:29
But I offer total and free trade rights, which is a lot of money for absolutely no losses. All they have to do is stay out of the war, which is fast becoming unprofitable for both of us

hey where my money :p
Alversia
03-11-2008, 22:31
hey where my money :p

Free trade? That's a killing right there.
Calendrandia
03-11-2008, 22:38
My people get to name their own terms.
Alversia
03-11-2008, 22:45
My people get to name their own terms.

What if I demanded the whole peninsula?

Plus your attack can't really succeed. It's pointless. You have a starving Army trapped in Denmark with winter closing in and two vengeful Armies approaching, a fortress in your way and no allies.
-Lorraine-
03-11-2008, 22:54
What if I demanded the whole peninsula?

Plus your attack can't really succeed. It's pointless. You have a starving Army trapped in Denmark with winter closing in and two vengeful Armies approaching, a fortress in your way and no allies.

Don't forget a naval battle in the channel thats holding up any naval support. :rolleyes: Though, he still has his cannon and alot of troops that could just storm it if there aren't that many troops.
Calendrandia
03-11-2008, 23:01
Exactly! The only way there could be more than 1,000 men is if your army from far to the south magicly passed mine without being seen. 1 day was taken up getting to the beach and unloading, then marching inland. 1 day was taken up reaching the first village. half a day was taken up reaching the fortess. So if your army got there in three days, then they are supermen.
Alversia
03-11-2008, 23:05
But my army started marching as soon as you were spotted not as soon as you landed. If it took one day to unload 15,000 men then your troops are the supermen considering it took the British 3 days to unload 10,000 in 1807.

And, as I said, even if you win, there's still no chance of victory in the war as a whole.
Calendrandia
03-11-2008, 23:19
It took a couple of hours to unload. It was just men streaming out of the ships. Also I landed 1 day after I was spotted. I only went 25 miles to the north.
Alversia
03-11-2008, 23:21
It took a couple of hours to unload. It was just men streaming out of the ships.

plus guns which have to lowered onto special barges which you won't have as you were planning to attack a port initially plus horses which have to be brought in one to a boat plus three people to stop them getting frightened.

Plus if my Frigate signalled shore as soon as you were spotted, I could have had over a week's warning before you even reached the first port
Sicily and Sardinia
03-11-2008, 23:33
Parsilla will you join in the anti-calendrandian coalition?
Sicily and Sardinia
03-11-2008, 23:33
Jufonce i will not budge those three isles are mine. who holds malta?
Greal
03-11-2008, 23:37
Where on the map have you claimed?

Greece and Turkey.
Sicily and Sardinia
03-11-2008, 23:45
i have claimed those three small territories on the Agean Sea.
Greal
03-11-2008, 23:46
I'll come and kick your ass if you do occupy it. :D
Sicily and Sardinia
03-11-2008, 23:52
how about a bribe?
-Lorraine-
03-11-2008, 23:56
Maybe a bombard might work better?
Alversia
03-11-2008, 23:57
I am so hideously confused
Calendrandia
03-11-2008, 23:59
I'll come and kick your ass if you do occupy it. :D

See, we have a mutual enemy.:D
Calendrandia
03-11-2008, 23:59
I am so hideously confused

You're not the only one.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 00:00
no i would prefer peace.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 00:12
I am willing to subsidize any nation willing to fight against calendrandia.
Mass Prediction
04-11-2008, 00:12
Alemmania offers Parilisa an alliance and royal marriage, and asks them for aid in an attack on Alvera.
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 00:16
Alemmania offers Parilisa an alliance and royal marriage, and asks them for aid in an attack on Alvera.

The Alveran war is over.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 00:16
MP, Parilisa has made peace with me and declared war on Calendrandia
Mass Prediction
04-11-2008, 00:18
MP, Parilisa has made peace with me and declared war on Calendrandia

Why's that?
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 00:18
well he could if he wanted to attack you. again i am willing to subsidize any nation that will attack Calendrandia.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 00:19
Parilisa got slaugthered on the beaches.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 00:20
Parilisa got slaugthered on the beaches.

Routed: 25,000 casualties for less than 2,000 of my own
Mass Prediction
04-11-2008, 00:20
Calendrandia is too distant for our interests. And Alemmania just doesn't have the resources to cross hostile Europe and launch a sure-to-fail overseas invasion for a little bounty.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 00:21
Calendrandia is too distant for our interests. And Alemmania just doesn't have the resources to cross hostile Europe and launch a sure-to-fail overseas invasion for a little bounty.

But it would be willing to fight me? A Country whose professional army has already smashed one invader and forced another to withdraw?
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 00:22
Well you could assist lorraine in capturing brittany.
-Lorraine-
04-11-2008, 00:22
well he could if he wanted to attack you. again i am willing to subsidize any nation that will attack Calendrandia.

Do you think that a full out blockade doesn't count or something? :eek:

I think the first engagement got a little out of hand since Alversia used canister and carbines. Niether existed at the time. (Canister wasn't until just before the civil war, grape shot was what I think you meant to say, not as good as canister though.) And carbines didn't even have a time-period counterpart (They just used pistols)
-Lorraine-
04-11-2008, 00:24
Actually, helping me in conquering BRittany wouldn't be so bad...
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 00:25
However Alveran troops sluaghtered the invaders now they are sitting at home.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 00:25
Do you think that a full out blockade doesn't count or something? :eek:

I think the first engagement got a little out of hand since Alversia used canister and carbines. Niether existed at the time. (Canister wasn't until just before the civil war, grape shot was what I think you meant to say, not as good as canister though.) And carbines didn't even have a time-period counterpart (They just used pistols)

Actually, they've been using cannister since Napoloenic times but thank you, I knew grapeshot game into it somewhere, though I used it only for a few moments. And as for the carbines...this is 1750...plus the attackers were using them too so any advantage i may have gained was negated.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 00:25
How about i land an army of 25 000 in southern france and march them to brittany?
Alversia
04-11-2008, 00:29
You know it would take weeks, if not months to march 25,000 men to a port, board them on ships, sail them all the way up to Britanny then march them to any battlefield? By which stage you may have lost anything between 5-10% of your forces to disease on cramped troop ships.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 00:33
Well actually i could take them right from bases in N. africa sail them to Rhone (very southern france) and march them north.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 00:35
Well actually i could take them right from bases in N. africa sail them to Rhone (very southern france) and march them north.

how do you supply them? no village is going to have food for 25,000 infantry plus whatever else you have gathered, (Cavalry and artillery)
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 00:39
well i'm in allied territory. there is no way i could sail them from N. africa all the way to brittany. I've got the Med. Fleet bottled up in gibraltar. my naval vessels would be open to any attack.
The Unifed Americas
04-11-2008, 00:51
Nation Name: The Monarchy of Crasanovia
Leader: King Bergard IX
Religion: Orthodox Christian
Pupulation: 4 million
Region: What's left of the Balkan's
Military: 81 000 soldiers, 19 000 cavalry, 125 ships, 200 cannon built into forts.
Colour: Pink
Flag: a diamond set onto a green background.
Other: small peaceful agriculture based nation.
-Lorraine-
04-11-2008, 01:00
You can come up through Rhone if you want, but it would be hard to supply that. I already am pushing myself with a large military that can't go far without hurting supply lines. You would have to supply alot of it yourself. Though I don't know if it would be worth it. By the time you get up there, I would have probably conquered it. Stopping 75,000 troops that are already on land is harder then 15,000 coming into heavily defended beaches, so it would end up probably in my favor. And because with my fleets everywhere, he won't be able to send a large amount of people through without taking massive casualties from my ships. Your fleet would be greatly appreciated though. My ships will be sailing over to help.
Mass Prediction
04-11-2008, 01:09
But it would be willing to fight me? A Country whose professional army has already smashed one invader and forced another to withdraw?

No, not exactly. I said I'd be willing to fight Alvera if I had Parilisa helping me.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 01:10
all right i will dispatch a battlegroup of 25 vessels to move up north. no troops. i can't supply it.

my fleets and armies are already stretched. i might have to fight JuFonce. i want those three tiny isles. that would probably take 25 vessels and 10 000 troops.

could you send 10 vessels to gibraltar?
Alversia
04-11-2008, 01:10
No, not exactly. I said I'd be willing to fight Alvera if I had Parilisa helping me.

I am Alvera
Mass Prediction
04-11-2008, 01:13
I am Alvera

Well, technically, you're Alversia, and your country is Alvera ;)
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 01:49
wrong jufonce these are my stats

Nation Name: The Allied States of Sicily and Sardinia
Leader: Prince Vio Audicio III(Sicily) and King Fernando IV (Sardinia)
Religion: Islam
Pupulation: 11 512 000
Region: Sicily and Sardinia and N. Africa
Military: Majorly into navy, 300 ships (50 Man o war, 150 frigates) Small but well trained army. (aroud 12 500 on each major island, 150 000 in africa) around 10% use rifles the rest is a mixture of pikes and crossbows. 100 cannon dug into fortresses on each isle. many cannon on N. Africa
Colour: Orange
Flag: Malta's flag
Other: Strong economy, mostly into trade. Attempting to dominated Medit. Sea. Accepts alliances. Disposition is peaceful

even with my war with Calendrandia i still have around 200 ships and 100 000 men.

That still doesn't matter. I claimed Spain as one of Jufonce's lands; those islands are Spain's, they weren't colored as Spains so I figured to bring it into role play.

Are you interested in an Alliance, Jufonce?

Okay - your Alemmania right?
-Lorraine-
04-11-2008, 01:49
all right i will dispatch a battlegroup of 25 vessels to move up north. no troops. i can't supply it.

my fleets and armies are already stretched. i might have to fight JuFonce. i want those three tiny isles. that would probably take 25 vessels and 10 000 troops.

could you send 10 vessels to gibraltar?

That works.

The Baleric islands? A war over those are definitly not in my priorities, but do as you please.

I have 30 in the entire Med. I'll give you 20 and keep the other 10 (5 men-o-war, 5 frigates) in Southern France. Those 20 would allow you to do more. Thanks for the 15 ships! Those are going to be needed because Calendrandia's forts are getting to be a pain. I need a little more extra muscle to take him out.

Oh and you can post your med. campaign in the Brittany page. It essentially the same battle.
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 01:55
Greal you're accepted. Mass Prediction Im expanding the lands.

If somoone wants to create an off site forum id be happy to move it all there. I think we should add stuff to Nswiki about all of our battles as well, just make it a bit deeper.

http://shankwood.proboards84.com/index.cgi

Go here - I didn't do anything with it, create an account and I will give you all rights. Or if you want, I can give you the admin account.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 01:57
Well, technically, you're Alversia, and your country is Alvera ;)

No one likes a Smart-Arse...lol
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:00
if your going to realse that many ships i'll loan you 30 instead of 15. thanks for the ships. if i turn around the Med. campaign i'll send troops.

jufonce be aware that the allied states want those isles. i think you would be ill advised if you want them i clearly have naval superiority
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:03
if your going to realse that many ships i'll loan you 30 instead of 15. thanks for the ships. if i turn around the Med. campaign i'll send troops.

jufonce be aware that the allied states want those isles. i think you would be ill advised if you want them i clearly have naval superiority

Weren't we an "alliance" (if you want to call it) a little while ago?
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:05
You withdrew from the alliance.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:06
However would you like to split the isles. the very most eastern one could be mine and the two western ones yours.
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:11
You withdrew from the alliance.

I did? - I thought I just left the war.

I guess I will give you the very most eastern island, but only if you split whatever you conquer or claim next.
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 02:12
You know, i think it is wierd that Jufonce clearly has more land, but is outnumbered by Sicily and Sardania. Hmm?
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 02:13
hey Jufonce, if you ally with me I will give you all the islands and Sicily, if we take it.
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:16
You know, i think it is wierd that Jufonce clearly has more land, but is outnumbered by Sicily and Sardania. Hmm?

I was going to make the population higher, but I figured everyone wouldn't like it.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 02:17
hey Jufonce, if you ally with me I will give you all the islands and Sicily, if we take it.

More warmongering? :p
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:18
hey Jufonce, if you ally with me I will give you all the islands and Sicily, if we take it.

Are you at war? If so; I'm not good at that, I am new and don't understand half of what goes on in everyone's war posts. :$
But for all the islands and then possibly Sicily; and by the fact that Sicily is after my islands, I'll ally.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:19
I'll give you equal rights over gibraltar, free trade with my nation and a share of whatever we capture against Calendrandia. you get the west isles and i get the eastern one.

sorry if i had the misconception that you left the alliance. i knew you left the war and assumed you had left our alliance.
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:23
I'll give you equal rights over gibraltar, free trade with my nation and a share of whatever we capture against Calendrandia. you get the west isles and i get the eastern one.

sorry if i had the misconception that you left the alliance. i knew you left the war and assumed you had left our alliance.

I'm going to have and go with Calendrandia on this; I want to be allied with a country like it (at war or having other nations wanting them dead)..that way makes for a more funner and interesting role play line.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 02:25
Are you at war? If so; I'm not good at that, I am new and don't understand half of what goes on in everyone's war posts. :$
But for all the islands and then possibly Sicily; and by the fact that Sicily is after my islands, I'll ally.

I could help you with the warfare and Rping if you wish to learn ^^
Tutor, if you will.




All I request is an Alliance...:p
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:26
Lorriane new plan invade Jufonce.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:26
hey this is also my first time why does he get help?
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 02:26
More warmongering? :p

SS didn't quit attacking me, and neither did Lorraine!



As for Jufonce, Great! Post in the new thread, for the war between me and lorraine and SS. If you could send all your ships in Spain to help lift the siege of Gibraltar(I finally spelled it right!) It would be a big help. Also, Lorraine, is weak right now. Attack him with troops from Italy and Spain. Just check the map to see where he is. Also, could you pull Alemmania into the fight, since he's an ally? If we all attack Lorraine, he is sure to lose. Then we can all get some new land. And SS will be forced to surrender when our full naval might is sent upon him!
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:27
I could help you with the warfare and Rping if you wish to learn ^^

I will be pleased to learn. How will you teach me though? I can make a place in the message board to do it, at least it will be put to use then. :)
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:28
Any one feel like helping the poor embattled coalition.
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 02:28
hey this is also my first time why does he get help?

because, you seem pretty good. And he needs help no offense Jufonce.
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:29
SS didn't quit attacking me, and neither did Lorraine!



As for Jufonce, Great! Post in the new thread, for the war between me and lorraine and SS. If you could send all your ships in Spain to help lift the siege of Gibraltar(I finally spelled it right!) It would be a big help. Also, Lorraine, is weak right now. Attack him with troops from Italy and Spain. Just check the map to see where he is. Also, could you pull Alemmania into the fight, since he's an ally? If we all attack Lorraine, he is sure to lose. Then we can all get some new land. And SS will be forced to surrender when our full naval might is sent upon him!

Alemmania hasn't accepted the ally-ship (< new word :P), as for me sending ships to Gibraltar (is that what you want to do?), then I am going to do that..
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 02:30
All right Lorraine, you messed with the bull, now here come the horns!
Alversia
04-11-2008, 02:30
I will be pleased to learn. How will you teach me though? I can make a place in the message board to do it, at least it will be put to use then. :)

Alrighty then, you have a link?
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:31
Ju fonce how many ships do you have?
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:32
Lorriane new plan invade Jufonce.

If you do go for New Jufonce (which is Italy).

because, you seem pretty good. And he needs help no offense Jufonce.

None taken. :B
I do suck at Nationstates role playing.
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:32
Alrighty then, you have a link?

http://shankwood.proboards84.com/index.cgi
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:34
Ju fonce how many ships do you have?

As many as I want to send. :wink:
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:35
how many ships?
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:35
you can't do that you could just say a hundred and i would be screwed.
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:35
how many ships?

What do you mean? Are we supposed to have a set limit?
Alversia
04-11-2008, 02:38
He wants to know how many ships are in your navy overall
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:39
yes in your application. you never said any so as of nowaccording to everyone else you hve 0
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 02:39
Alemmania hasn't accepted the ally-ship (< new word :P), as for me sending ships to Gibraltar (is that what you want to do?), then I am going to do that..

All right, here's the plan: Gibraltar is right below Spain. I want you to send as many ships as you can from a nearby port in spain( You should have one cause you were planning to attack me) to Gibraltar. I am being attacked there by SS. I also want you to send troops from Northern Italy and Northern Spain to attack Lorraine(he's in France) You should have an easy fight, as he is attacking me with most of his men. Send ships and men from Italy to attack Sicily as well. They shouldn't see it coming, but act now, before they read this post!
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:39
i have around 300
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:40
i read it
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:41
He wants to know how many ships are in your navy overall

Oh how about five-hundred? Is that too much?
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 02:41
i read it

Darn You! But you can't just happen to have a fleet of 100 standing by.
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 02:43
Oh how about five-hundred? Is that too much?

try 3-400. I think that would be good. Also, specify what types of ships. Frigates are fast medium sized ships, Men-o-war or Ships of the line are heavy ships, and brigs are small, lightly armed ships.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:43
no way two much the biggest fleet is 275 ish.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:44
could someone start a thread about the SS -jufonce war we'll make it a seperate campaign.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 02:45
try 3-400. I think that would be good. Also, specify what types of ships. Frigates are fast medium sized ships, Men-o-war or Ships of the line are heavy ships, and brigs are small, lightly armed ships.

Or you can use the rate system ^^

500 is too much, make the number anything from 200-300, seeing as you have a lot of coastline to cover.
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:46
try 3-400. I think that would be good. Also, specify what types of ships. Frigates are fast medium sized ships, Men-o-war or Ships of the line are heavy ships, and brigs are small, lightly armed ships.

270 ships

Men-o-war: 100
Frigates: 50
Brigs: 100

How is this?
Alversia
04-11-2008, 02:48
270 ships

Men-o-war: 150
Frigates: 100
Brigs: 20

You would probably be better having more smaller ships as they are less expensive, faster and need less crew to man. Even if you swapped the numbers for Frigate and Man-o-War.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:48
great. now Jufonce i will give you one chance to reconsider. this war will only be destructive to you and me. calendrandria will turn on you as he turned on parilisa
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:48
Alversia will you help me?
Alversia
04-11-2008, 02:49
Alversia will you help me?

I'm neutral, recovering from my own war on the other side of the continent, surrounded by Calendrandia territory. There's not a huge amount I can do
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:49
great. now Jufonce i will give you one chance to reconsider. this war will only be destructive to you and me. calendrandria will turn on you as he turned on parilisa

I doubt that - he needs an ally now.
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 02:50
270 ships

Men-o-war: 150
Frigates: 100
Brigs: 20

No way!!!!! to many men-o-war!!


let's try 278 ships.
60 men-o-war
100 frigates
118 brigs

sound good everyone?
Alversia
04-11-2008, 02:50
I doubt that - he needs an ally now.

Never trust anyone...rule one of diplomacy ^^
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:50
Are the number of ships good now?
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:50
May i buy some ships from you then?
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:51
i guess
Alversia
04-11-2008, 02:51
Cal's no's might be better suited for your situation.
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:51
Never trust anyone...rule one of diplomacy ^^

I don't trust him, but a country can't turn on everyone - they need an ally.
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 02:52
Fine the total number of my ships are...

60 men-o-war
100 frigates
118 brigs
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 02:53
I don't trust him, but a country can't turn on everyone - they need an ally.


Exactly!
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:53
well now jufonce do you really believe that he will not have something planned for you like he did for parilisa
Alversia
04-11-2008, 02:54
Fine the total number of my ships are...

60 men-o-war
100 frigates
118 brigs

Better. You need more ships that are faster and able to respond to crisis along your extended coastline, rather than large doddering old M-o-W's that take months to get to the crisis only to find it long over.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:55
do you have any brigs that i could buy alvera
Alversia
04-11-2008, 02:57
do you have any brigs that i could buy alvera

Brigs don't do very well in the north and baltic sea's they're better in the mediterreanean. You could buy some Frigates though
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:58
how many for sale.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 02:59
by my numbers i'm outnumbered by about 60 vessels
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 03:03
Hey, I think you're forgetting that these ships would have to go through me.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 03:04
Yes but the transfer of power would shift once the ships arrive in N. Africa as they pass through your waters they are neutral vessels.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 03:05
how many for sale.

Hey, I think you're forgetting that these ships would have to go through me.

Exactly, if the vessels fly under my flag or a neutral flag, then you risk war with me again.

And it's only two or three sturdy Alveran Frigates for sale. 44 guns each. You have a bigger navy than me
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 03:07
how much for them?
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 03:12
Calendrandia what do you want me to do again?
Alversia
04-11-2008, 03:12
how much for them?

I have absolutely no idea, because I don't know which currancy you're using, I don't know which currancy I'm using and t'hell I know what the exchange rate is :confused:
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 03:19
well what would you like for them. by the way my currency is the poundos.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 03:21
lorriane you are going to be attacked by JUfonce.
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 03:24
lorriane you are going to be attacked by JUfonce.

What? I never said that..
(Unless Calendrandia wants me to)
Alversia
04-11-2008, 03:25
well what would you like for them. by the way my currency is the poundos.

if you gave 40,000 poundas for each then, I'll be happy. BTW, I've just decided my currancy is the Kronos. We should have somewhere set up to compare these
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 03:25
JuFonce you have one more chance before we attack you.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 03:26
ok how about 2:1 for you to start with.
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 03:26
All right, here's the plan: Gibraltar is right below Spain. I want you to send as many ships as you can from a nearby port in spain( You should have one cause you were planning to attack me) to Gibraltar. I am being attacked there by SS. I also want you to send troops from Northern Italy and Northern Spain to attack Lorraine(he's in France) You should have an easy fight, as he is attacking me with most of his men. Send ships and men from Italy to attack Sicily as well. They shouldn't see it coming, but act now, before they read this post!

There it is. I guess it got buried in the mountain of posts.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 03:27
ok how about 2:1 for you to start with.

who? me? 2:1 what?
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 03:27
JuFonce you have one more chance before we attack you.

Again; go ahead. Attack the Portugal side of the Jufonce main island.(The left island, on the left side)
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 03:30
2 poundos for one kronos is the exchange rate.

and why should i attack portugal?
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 03:30
Jufonce go here:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=571058&highlight=calendrandia

and do what I told you.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 03:32
2 poundos for one kronos is the exchange rate.

and why should i attack portugal?

so that's 240,000 Poundos for 3 frigates then?
-Lorraine-
04-11-2008, 03:32
well, Jufonce, I only attacked with 75,000 men, I still have another 200,000 scattered around, not to mention the Lorraine navy has effectively blockaded Calendrandia. I won't go to war with Jufonce, instead I will keep my war where I am.

Jufonce- Calendrandia is at war with me over Brittany and our navies are beating the crud out of each other. If Calendrandia really wants to keep Gibraltar (as he is doing) he has to have alot of his 250 ship fleet there. I have 250 ships as well and 220 of them are attacking Calendrandia. He doesn't have much left. I don't really care how you work out your med. things, but if you interfere with the Brittany invasion, it will set off alot of bad things. SS has a pretty big navy too (biggest) so he would be a bastard to have to fight against. Not saying what you should do, just giving a little advice.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 03:34
ya sure
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 03:36
they were talking about attacking southern france(lorriane)
Alversia
04-11-2008, 03:36
ya sure

You got yourself a deal, Mister ^^

Though the crews you have to provide. My crews will sail them there then get safe passage back to Alvera.
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 03:37
well, Jufonce, I only attacked with 75,000 men, I still have another 200,000 scattered around, not to mention the Lorraine navy has effectively blockaded Calendrandia. I won't go to war with Jufonce, instead I will keep my war where I am.

Jufonce- Calendrandia is at war with me over Brittany and our navies are beating the crud out of each other. If Calendrandia really wants to keep Gibraltar (as he is doing) he has to have alot of his 250 ship fleet there. I have 250 ships as well and 220 of them are attacking Calendrandia. He doesn't have much left. I don't really care how you work out your med. things, but if you interfere with the Brittany invasion, it will set off alot of bad things. SS has a pretty big navy too (biggest) so he would be a bastard to have to fight against. Not saying what you should do, just giving a little advice.

So I should now send fifty ships to Calendrandia and forty-five to Gibraltar?
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 03:37
well, Jufonce, I only attacked with 75,000 men, I still have another 200,000 scattered around, not to mention the Lorraine navy has effectively blockaded Calendrandia. I won't go to war with Jufonce, instead I will keep my war where I am.

Jufonce- Calendrandia is at war with me over Brittany and our navies are beating the crud out of each other. If Calendrandia really wants to keep Gibraltar (as he is doing) he has to have alot of his 250 ship fleet there. I have 250 ships as well and 220 of them are attacking Calendrandia. He doesn't have much left. I don't really care how you work out your med. things, but if you interfere with the Brittany invasion, it will set off alot of bad things. SS has a pretty big navy too (biggest) so he would be a bastard to have to fight against. Not saying what you should do, just giving a little advice.

If you have a 275,000 man professional army then that is way to much. I have a total of 80,000 men and we are the same size.
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 03:38
So I should now send fifty ships to Calendrandia and forty-five to Gibraltar?

just send as many as you can to Gibraltar( about 40 frigates and 15 men-o-war would work)
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 03:40
just send as many as you can to Gibraltar( about 40 frigates and 15 men-o-war would work)

There it has been sent.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 03:51
Jufonce, you could try to add some descrptions to your posts, rather than saying they stormed about killing everything. If it were 18th war, you'd be dead. men did not run and scream. They marched in lines and fired on one another:
Like this:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8egbgZ_9v9Q
or like this:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qfvCjLgbpy0
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 03:54
the battle is really heating up.
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 03:54
Jufonce, you could try to add some descrptions to your posts, rather than saying they stormed about killing everything. If it were 18th war, you'd be dead. men did not run and scream. They marched in lines and fired on one another:
Like this:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8egbgZ_9v9Q
or like this:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qfvCjLgbpy0

Will do that.
-Lorraine-
04-11-2008, 03:54
If you have a 275,000 man professional army then that is way to much. I have a total of 80,000 men and we are the same size.

I did say I was a very militaristic country because of being completely surrounded. Mostly because I don't own Brittany. :rolleyes: Also, France and the lowlands in this time period had far more people than Britain. It was the world wars and loss of the lowlands earlier which made France and Britain have a more equal population. I also think I still need to fix mine up because of my largeness, but since I transfered to -Lorraine-, I can't change it, I will jsut copy and paste it. I also just have more space. Easier to have a bigger population with that.

Juforce- Just don't attack me, and I won't attack you. that way we are both happy and don't have to risk losing anything. My ships won't shoot at yours, yours don't shoot at mine. Deal?
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 03:56
well his troops seemed to have been hurt quite a bit by my troops.
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 03:56
I did say I was a very militaristic country because of being completely surrounded. Mostly because I don't own Brittany. :rolleyes: Also, France and the lowlands in this time period had far more people than Britain. It was the world wars and loss of the lowlands earlier which made France and Britain have a more equal population. I also think I still need to fix mine up because of my largeness, but since I transfered to -Lorraine-, I can't change it, I will jsut copy and paste it. I also just have more space. Easier to have a bigger population with that.

Juforce- Just don't attack me, and I won't attack you. that way we are both happy and don't have to risk losing anything. My ships won't shoot at yours, yours don't shoot at mine. Deal?

Deal.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 03:57
Lorriane i would put you southern border troops on high alert. thanks for the vessels and help.
-Lorraine-
04-11-2008, 04:01
SS- No problem.

Jufonce- Good.

Alversia- You bastard! I was going to use those videos later on! I always use videos in RPs.
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 04:05
I did say I was a very militaristic country because of being completely surrounded. Mostly because I don't own Brittany. :rolleyes: Also, France and the lowlands in this time period had far more people than Britain. It was the world wars and loss of the lowlands earlier which made France and Britain have a more equal population. I also think I still need to fix mine up because of my largeness, but since I transfered to -Lorraine-, I can't change it, I will jsut copy and paste it. I also just have more space. Easier to have a bigger population with that.

Juforce- Just don't attack me, and I won't attack you. that way we are both happy and don't have to risk losing anything. My ships won't shoot at yours, yours don't shoot at mine. Deal?


Umm, even if you had that many people, there is no way you could have supported even a mediocre army that large without bankrupting yourself.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 04:11
don't underestimate the french. they did it in real life. plus i'm subsidizing him.
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 04:13
Hmm, and what happened when they did that, oh yeah, the French revolution!
Alversia
04-11-2008, 04:15
this whole thing is a bloody nightmare
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 04:17
what is?
-Lorraine-
04-11-2008, 04:17
Then after taht came Napoleon. I already had my revolution. Now is my Napoleon with a few more friends.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 04:19
what is?

the rp has turned into a Machine Gun RP, a thousand posts a minute so no one can write anything substanial in case it gets lost in all the others. And no one is fighting by 18th C tactics. Examples of how it was fought are in the OOC thread
Alversia
04-11-2008, 04:20
Something like this:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qfvCjLgbpy0
or this:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nsdm7UArGcI&feature=related
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 04:21
Yeah true but i am fighting two nations right now it is a little difficult and i have never been trained in RP ing.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 04:21
well i dug in which was created a long time before 18 th century.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 04:23
well i dug in which was created a long time before 18 th century.

But to dig in would have taken hours which, unless your opponent also fast forwards his side of the battle by hours, means that you have just dug defences while he stood and watched you. Then sprung his trap.
-Lorraine-
04-11-2008, 04:26
hey don't blame me! Calendrandia doesn't want to come out and play with my soldiers. And he just ran into the harbour while I blast away his forts.

Thanks for the movie links though, I am watching it right now and it is pretty cool.
Alversia
04-11-2008, 04:28
hey don't blame me! Calendrandia doesn't want to come out and play with my soldiers. And he just ran into the harbour while I blast away his forts.

Thanks for the movie links though, I am watching it right now and it is pretty cool.

Yeah, the Barry Lyndon one takes place in the same era y'all are fighting in, so it's a hint for the Uniforms.

It's also an example of battle. Big and loud with lots of different colours and flags and drums and pipes.

Plus, an example of the weaponry:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho-QCmnNMl8
I know it says 1815 in the movie but the principle is the same:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SJMbxZ1k9NQ&feature=related
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 04:33
Bye all, I'm off for the night.

Alversia, I gave you admin rights on your account on the forums, when the Parilisa makes an account there will you make him admin? Also, you are welcome to set up whatever boards and all that are needed.

Calendrandia, ask Alemmania, when he/she gets on, if he wants to ally with us.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 04:33
no that was last night that i dug in after the trap was sprung.
-Lorraine-
04-11-2008, 04:34
aaawwweeee, I found The Battle of Waterloo movies and wanted the French ones there. Those look goooood. I have to say though, if Calendrandia comes right at me like the Barry Lyndon British did, I won't have a problem with this at all.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 04:34
wow this is an intense war. by your estimate who is winning?
Alversia
04-11-2008, 04:42
aaawwweeee, I found The Battle of Waterloo movies and wanted the French ones there. Those look goooood. I have to say though, if Calendrandia comes right at me like the Barry Lyndon British did, I won't have a problem with this at all.

Well, what you don't see is the British volley which, at close range, could have done more damage than all those french volleys combined. Like in the Patriot where the Americans get their arses kicked because they fired too early and too high.
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 04:51
hey don't blame me! Calendrandia doesn't want to come out and play with my soldiers. And he just ran into the harbour while I blast away his forts.

Thanks for the movie links though, I am watching it right now and it is pretty cool.

I'm waiting for my fleet from Alvera to return and the rest of my ships to form up. Also I asked you where and how your men were arrayed and you did not answer me.
-Lorraine-
04-11-2008, 04:52
Yeah that to. But couldn't the French just make a volly at the same time and do the same damage? Just time it with the British fire and cause the same damage. Makes it a bit easier on me. I still like the Napoleon uniforms though.

Thats true. The Americans didn't know how to shoot then (But now, we got a better)

They are in classic formation with artillary close behind and cavalry commanding the flanks and rear.
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 05:04
wow the battle for Gibraltar is chaotic.
-Lorraine-
04-11-2008, 05:16
For Christ's sake! Its a god damn rock!
Greal
04-11-2008, 05:55
how about a bribe?

LOL, that might work.

Anyway, maybe we can lease you the islands as naval bases in exchange for money and free trade agreement.
Imperial isa
04-11-2008, 09:46
lol this war something
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 14:28
For Christ's sake! Its a god damn rock!

That may be so, but it's my damn rock!!!!!!!!!!!
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 15:35
Also, can I change the amount in my army, because when I look at everyone's armies, it seems too small
Sicily and Sardinia
04-11-2008, 15:47
My Rock!!!!!!!!!!
-Lorraine-
04-11-2008, 15:58
Take your rock! I want my Brittany!
Parilisa
04-11-2008, 18:49
Right, this is getting too big. I can't handle a thread with nearly 30 pages.

I'm gonna try and set up an offsite forum, but it may take some time and you'll have to bear with me.
The Unifed Americas
04-11-2008, 19:43
are you gong to let me in?
Calendrandia
04-11-2008, 19:54
Alvera, do you think my soldiers will be back soon?
Alversia
04-11-2008, 19:56
Alvera, do you think my soldiers will be back soon?

From Alvera? Well the weather's getting bad and you to march back to the coast and embark them them before sailing across the rough sea. I'd say that could take as long as a fortnight, seeing as you're loading from a Beach.
Parilisa
04-11-2008, 20:35
are you gong to let me in?

I'm searching through all the pages for apps. There's been about 11 pages overnight so ive got lots to do!

I'll get back to you asap.
Parilisa
04-11-2008, 20:43
Crasanovia is accepted.

Forums will be up very soon!!!!
Imperial isa
04-11-2008, 20:45
what
Alversia
04-11-2008, 20:47
BTW, The Alveran Uniform (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~robert/EdwardinUniform_cropped.jpg)
Parilisa
04-11-2008, 20:48
Hey....shouldn't you be watching the Liverpool match? :D

Lol, I'll be supporting you!
Parilisa
04-11-2008, 20:48
And I like the uni. Its french isn't it?
Imperial isa
04-11-2008, 20:49
And I like the uni. Its french isn't it?

No,
Parilisa
04-11-2008, 20:50
american?
Alversia
04-11-2008, 20:51
And I like the uni. Its french isn't it?

I think it's Prussian. And I'm watching it now ^^
Imperial isa
04-11-2008, 20:52
american?

yes

did you know you can't just post no any more as it too short?
Parilisa
04-11-2008, 20:56
How daft!
Imperial isa
04-11-2008, 21:00
How daft!

yes it is
Parilisa
04-11-2008, 21:32
WE HAVE FORUMS: http://ns18thcentury.smfforfree3.com/index.php
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 22:36
I think we should take all the threads and throw them in the other forum. Two role play areas isn't good...
Imperial isa
04-11-2008, 22:42
we never need the other forum in the first place
Jufonce
04-11-2008, 22:51
Yeah but it is easier to use.
Corbournne
04-11-2008, 22:53
WE HAVE FORUMS: http://ns18thcentury.smfforfree3.com/index.php

Hooray!
Sicily and Sardinia
05-11-2008, 03:55
where is everyone?
Siloin
05-11-2008, 04:40
This still open?
The Artic Republics
05-11-2008, 08:19
I'm being completely left behind here- ten new pages in two days and I wasn't able to get on yesterday. I don't feel that I'm going to be able to take part as well as I thought I was. I'm formally withdrawing from this forum and leaving the Kingdom of Scandinavia up for grabs to the next applicant so that I can focus on upcoming exams.
-Lorraine-
05-11-2008, 13:26
You kidding me. My internet decided I wasn't important enough to do my homework so I couldn't get on and do it. Nor do this.
Siloin
05-11-2008, 15:07
Nation Name: Silion Empire
Leader: Emperor Gustav I
Religion: Protestant
Population: 2.5 Million
Region: Norway, Sweden and Finland
Military: 100,000 in the army. Mostly infantry but with an elite artillery corps and some respectable cavalry units. Navy is mainly focused on larger frigates and sloops.
Colour: White
Flag: Sweden's
Other: Since he said he withdrew...
Parilisa
05-11-2008, 20:05
Accepted.

The plan with the new forum is that we finish anything that was started here here, but if you want to start a new thread start it over in the other place.
Imperial isa
05-11-2008, 20:19
ok any one want too marry someone to my guy
Parilisa
05-11-2008, 20:21
I will, u got a thread up?
-Lorraine-
07-11-2008, 02:52
Pssst, *whispers*that means you gotta make a thread for it*
Calendrandia
09-11-2008, 02:13
Help, I can't get into the forums!:(:confused:
Imperial isa
09-11-2008, 02:20
Help, I can't get into the forums!:(:confused:

it's back don't know about for you
Sicily and Sardinia
06-12-2008, 20:37
bump to get people
Imperial isa
06-12-2008, 20:44
bump to get people

there a new thread with lands listed that are now free to be picked from
Sicily and Sardinia
10-12-2008, 19:51
bump
Sicily and Sardinia
20-12-2008, 01:56
bump bon ba dump bump bump bump