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::empathy:: Those hubcaps are a real pain to deal with. They have caps for the tire bolts. To remove the tire, you have to take off the bolt caps, THEN pull the hubcap. Not my favorite job.

My car, for all I may write in jest about it, is in awesome shape. The body doesn't have any rust on it, and the only thing that doesn't work perfectly is the dome light, which is OK as long as I don't use the rotor switch on the driver's side mirror (don't ask). I really like this one. They did a lot of things right on that car.

They are really good cars. I still maintain that mine is about ready to die, but oh well. When it finally dies, I'll get a new one. My cousin is a pizza delivery guy and his 2000 cavalier finally died when the transmission actually fell off as he was going down I-94. It had 211,000 miles on it.

After I gave her the amulet, everything went in a different direction not involving Galvenor so I am not sure where we are.

If you want we could restart the next day with classes starting.

I still need Irene officially enrolled and all that jazz.

Get in line. EVERYONE needs to be enrolled, including Marvel. I don't even know what classes are being taught.

Oh good, then I'm not the only one that lost track of things. Reality's been a bit of a bitch lately so I'm about as lost as anyone else.

@ Sylv: Yeah. Good. :p :p :p

@SS: HEY, COMMIE!! YOU GONNA MAKE YOUR MOVE OR WHAT? :p :p :p :p

I feel like that's sarcasm...

Dastardly Stench;14466386']@SS: HEY, COMMIE!! YOU GONNA MAKE YOUR MOVE OR WHAT? :p :p :p :p

Yelena's alignment isn't lawful evil... as long as she stays away from a position of absolute power.

Does that mean she should not be an instructor?

It means don't let her take over for Galvenor.

Yelena's alignment isn't lawful evil... as long as she stays away from a position of absolute power.

What's the old saying? If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with you bull?

SS, whatever drugs you have, could you give me some? I mean, that answer has SO little to do with the question it was supposedly in response to that I'm beginning to wonder if it didn't come from some alternative universe!

You've been TGing me about having Yellena take a bite out of Marvel's soul for DAYS now. I even tried writing you a humorous lead-in, but you JUST HAD to pump out another copy of War and Peace--only yours didn't have a plot.

Like, dude, drink or put down the pot.

It means don't let her take over for Galvenor.

Nope... it means Yelena shouldn't take over this position (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Secretary_of_the_Communist_Party_of_the_Soviet_Union) equivalent in SS. [/hint to planned RP]

What's the old saying? If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with you bull?

SS, whatever drugs you have, could you give me some? I mean, that answer has SO little to do with the question it was supposedly in response to that I'm beginning to wonder if it didn't come from some alternative universe!

You've been TGing me about having Yellena take a bite out of Marvel's soul for DAYS now. I even tried writing you a humorous lead-in, but you JUST HAD to pump out another copy of War and Peace--only yours didn't have a plot.

Like, dude, drink or put down the pot.

It might yet happen, if Yelena finds no other alternative. And it has everything to do with the question. I meant that the character I created have moral objections to doing what is necessary to survive. Got it?

Hmmm, it sounds like you two need some privacy.

Drai'lee can always go tend her dragon.

And yes knowing what classes / subject are is a good idea.

that was the reason for the meeting which the characters would had presented their teaching plans.

Hmmm, it sounds like you two need some privacy.

Drai'lee can always go tend her dragon.

And yes knowing what classes / subject are is a good idea.

You're not fun!

Besides, Marvel needs a witness!


It might yet happen, if Yelena finds no other alternative. And it has everything to do with the question. I meant that the character I created have moral objections to doing what is necessary to survive. Got it?


1) You never mentioned any reticence on Yellena's part in your TG's. If you'd discussed the issue, it would have helped.

2) If she wants to find an alternative, it might help if she tried to talk things over with somebody, no?

dastardly stench;14469738']2) if she wants to find an alternative, it might help if she tried to talk things over with somebody, no?

"Oh hai I need to devour all ur souls to survive! Help me plz!"

"Galvenor, is there some substitute that you can concoct?"

I thought this was supposed to be OOC? Then again, I'm not one to talk...

*looks at title*

That is what it says at the top.

*walks away confused*

To be honest and all...

What I did to my character is the equivalent of a thread necromancy for being bored. Fact is, I lost interest for the same reason I manage to have a greater enjoyment from WW1 and Steampunk threads despite how they tend to last shortly and die, than I ever did with Fantasy... for the same reason I prefer Fallout and Jagged Alliance 2 over Planescape:Torment.

And this reason is: Fantasy isn't my cup of tea, period.

The signature was a not so serious hint to how I intend to turn Soviet Steam into a real nation rather than into a cover for character RPs. In fact, it would have become a real NS in either a WW1 Past Tech or Steampunk setting if there were enough interested people.

In fact I will no longer bend original concepts to majorities and ruin them. Soviet Steam wasn't originally intended to have a pint of fantasy. But as I didn't want it to be an obscure puppet, I made compromises and thus I lost interest in it as a Nation-State rather than as a forum account to RP characters.

In fact... I should have made an epic suicide post... wait I can still do it and make justice to a character instead of defacing it into a failful Mary Sue. Just like I will revive World War 1 Past Tech in NS and RP something as epic as the battle of Stalingrad!

Now to continue with the normal broadcasts...

Well, have fun then. Best of luck to ya.

Yes...seriously, I wish you well. The things that you mention are not my cup of tea, but difference is the spice of life. Best wishes.

Dastardly Stench;14488707']Yes...seriously, I wish you well. The things that you mention are not my cup of tea, but difference is the spice of life. Best wishes.

Nothing like the story of a Commie Red Baron flying in a steam biplane for a good start ;)

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=585988

As usual, your world-building is top notch, but your mechanics are sloppy.

I want to begin the classes phase. What is everyone teaching?

I'm teaching how to worship Chaos, the class involves the ritual sacrifice of a single unlucky student.

I mean, uh, I'd like to get on to classes too.

Name: Kairos
Abilities: supremely adept at summoning creatures and teleportation, but not adept at controlling summons.
Bio: Kairos learned of his abilities slowly at first, teaching himself to cast. He came to a rude awakening when he summoned a demon that wiped out his entire town. Escaping only through a teleportation spell, Kairos came here to better learn spellcasting (controlling his summons, mostly).
Status: student

I'm in?

Marvel teaches Illusions and he teaches the Yendorian Framework of Magic.

So...my entrance could come in from there? Thanks.

You can teleport outside the main gate (unless you are an Instructor, those type s of magics are resisted in the school) and knock.

Well then, that works too.

Aresion, thats not possible for you to do - Marvel and Drai'lee are in the dining hall which is inside the tower which is inside the gate that you can not teleport past. Nor can you overhear them, in greatest likelihood, given the distance and other factors.

Oh...I didn't know the structure/arrangement of the building, so...

He wrote that someone let his character in, and that the guy walked over to the cafeteria. Mind you, it would be a little bit funny for him to negotiate the magic lift without any previous experience, but, if there was an imp leading him in, it would naturally take him to Marvel, as Marvel is an instructor, and not currently otherwise engaged.

I am assuming it is still breakfast time right before classes start when this is happening.

Right then...thanks to all by the way.

I added a couple links to the first post of the OOC Threat (this one) that were scattered several pages back. I thought I had already done so but I guess I must have been tired that day.

Ah, missed where he said he'd been let in, sorry about that!.

Really it's my fault a bit for not figuring out how all this worked.


And Also: Thanks Balrogga!

Well it seems I've missed a bit doesn't it?

Really it's my fault a bit for not figuring out how all this worked.


And Also: Thanks Balrogga!


To serve and protect...

Oops, wrong lifetime.

I am waiting for a logical spot to enter but right now is not one, there is an insructor there to handle things and he should be able to take on the responsibility of the situation blah blah blah blah...

Classes haven't started yet, dude. As far as he's concerned, right now, Marvel's still just one of the guys.

I had planned missing her when classes started and sending/investigating her dissappearance to discover her death.

If you want to do it this way that is fine with me.

Oh, inside the rooms are not monitored and only Staff can open the doors of a student dorm, thier rings allowing them the "password" to open any sobordinant door but not an equal or higher up's door.

Att his time Galvenor is in his office preparing his lesson plan for the class he will teach. He has felt the arrival of the new student but also knows an Instructor is assisting him.

Friendly bump

http://th01.deviantart.com/fs11/300W/i/2006/175/b/4/Between_the_Lines_by_patriatyrannus.jpg

Also, the real Yelena died only once and was never brought back to the world of living. Her resurrection was a failure and brought another soul than her real soul into her revived body, shattering such soul in the process, a soul of an emo who was sent to Hell after committing suicide, and then brought to Yelena's body by Ivan's unintentionally faulty necromancy.

Alright Bal, if this isn't a blatant and obvious gateway into the action, I don't know what is.

And I had Drai'lee mention the possibility of murder as I remember some one having characters that were going about being places they shouldn't be and talking to one another about causing trouble - though I don't remember which player, I think I'd recognise them if I saw their names, and I don't think they've posted in a Long While.

Until Thursday I will be working exclusively on my Argumentive Paper, a final project, and finals. I will be unable to post until after these things are completed.

I apoligize for the inconvienance this may cause but Real Life has to come first.

Marvel here--dude, you gotta remember that, for me, this IS real life! And besides, if it's an argument you want, all ya gotta do is say so! I LIVE for the stuff! So what's your problem?

Oh. Excuse me. There's a beer in the icebox that's callin' my name and it would be so impolite of me not to answer it...

Thanks for volunteering to write my paper for me. I need it by 11 PM Central Sunday night. It has to be 8 pages long with an additional coversheet and sources cited properly. The topic will be on how bad DTC drug company marketing tactics are. Be sure to spellcheck it first.


/sarcasm

It has to be 8 pages long

Only 8? Weak! </sarcasm>

<demon>

Marvel here...let's see...set the font size up to 72 point...google DTC advertising...Oh! "DTC" stands for "Direct-To-Consumer!" Looks like what they used to do in the Corruption Corps! Wow! I love it!

::ahem!::

Now...we just cut and paste something like what we see at

http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2004/404_ads.html

into the ol' document...and...

Wahlah!

There ya go! All done!

</demon>

Well, you have one source, now for all the others needed.

I got a 100% on the report, now to take the two exams tomorrow.

<demon>

You didn't say that I needed more than one source! You just said, 8-page paper by 11PM Central Time Sunday Night. I had it done by 2PM, central time, on Wednesday! I kept the deal as you said it should be. (Normally, this is the part where I demand your soul, but the agreement didn't specify that, so I'll just take a beer instead.)

</demon>

Congrats on the report! Hope you do well in the exams. I sorta graduated form college in '86, so it's been a while since I've done that sort of thing. Still, I remember those days...with a certain amount of indigestion... :) :) :)

Thanks for volunteering to write my paper for me. I need it by 11 PM Central Sunday night. It has to be 8 pages long with an additional coversheet and sources cited properly. The topic will be on how bad DTC drug company marketing tactics are. Be sure to spellcheck it first.


/sarcasm


Please notice I stated SOURCES, as in plural.

/further sarcasm


Seriously, give me tomorrow to take the damn tests and then a day to actually give my mind a rest and I will try to get things rolling again.


Thanks for being patient.

I just sent SS a telegram asking for help in creating the investigation scene. If they do not have time we will not RP the investigation.

Past Tech is dead for a long time, and nothing can revive interest in it besides some sporadic RPs I've done with Talost and TWSP. To be honest the most enjoyable RPs I ever had with SS were the following, despite the fact they died before achieving their fullest potential:

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=573261
http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=546697

Unfortunately, I can't attend that request. Also, an entirely different account isn't really necessary for sporadic RPs, but I haven't made my mind yet on whether to let it go or not.

Anyway, I posted it to be a totally obvious suicide. There is nothing to be found or investigated when all is self-evident... just a disturbingly empty room with a corpse. And *drumbeat* there is a teared piece of paper in the right pocket with notes about how "sometimes I feel like if this is not my body, like if I am an intruder, a doppelganger impersonating a long gone person."

I believe you can be creative enough to make it an interesting discovery and expand from here without my intervention. All I said was canon, although some parts weren't entirely serious(the "LOL Emo" part). A soul damned because of commiting suicide was taken into Yelena's revived body instead of her own soul, and during it, such soul was wrecked, and thus at the brink of oblivion. Then this soul decided that ceasing to exist was a solace. You can take it from here.

Just figured I would give you the option to tell things the way you wished.

Hey SS, do you have any information on your funeral rights for your character? I would like to let the students participate if possible. If you wish, this could be the last thing for the Thread if you wished or just let us know what to do. I just don't want to put something like "They burried here in the customs of her homeland" because it is such a cop-out.

Hello all, I hope it isn't to late to sign-up, but Sylvonia told me I should join, so, might as well give it a try, yeah? He also said you needed another teacher of some sort.

Name: Mikael
Race: Vampire (Don't know if thats allowed or not, but its worth a try. I'll also delve into it a bit more deeply later.)
Age: Unknown, no more than a thousand, no less than five hundred.
Physical Description: Almost unbearably cliche, almost as if its on purpose. Wears and exquisite black suit, black cape trimmed in red, all that. Pale skin, blood red eyes, full red lips, yadda yadda vampire yadda, you know the drill. About six and a half feet tall, weighing perhaps 250 pounds.
Short bio: Further adding to his cliche'dness (I think I just coined a new term), he is his worlds equivilant of Old German. (The old german tribe known as Goth, being the reason for the cliche). In his youth, after making the transition from human to vampire, he was....less than civilized, killing indiscriminitly, before beggining to regain some of his humanity. Nowadays, he is always polite, though can sometimes be mocking, and acts, for the most part, in a very civilized manner.

Also, he himself does not possess what could be called magic, instead specializing in the occult, in demon summoning and traversing seperate dimension and such, which he teaches the rituals for.


And here is the student.

Name: Aozora no'Namida
Race: Half-demon
Age: Around 17
Physical Description: About six feet, pale blond hair that hangs past his shoulders, eyes that change colour from bright blue to a deeper red.
Short Bio: Refuses to disclose this information.

Well I didn't tell you so much as suggested...

Sure...whatever you say mate....*Whispers hushed story to the rest of the people, involving a threatening Syl waving a knife and dynamite*

*sigh* Mer, you old fart, what are we ever going to do with your imagination.

Meh. Just give me my tapioca and I'm fine.

Anyway, I don't think I want to make my first impression by spamming the OOC, so....conversation ended...for now...

Sorry for taking so long to explain. I hinted slightly in the Character Description (http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13467293&postcount=3) I gave to Yelena.


Aware of her death, her father has campaigned for her to be commended by the Commissariat for her services, and to be posthumously forgiven for lacking any control over the sheer majority of magical incidents related with her. Five months ago Yelena was posthumously awarded with the Crimson Heart, given to all those who have sacrificed their lives for the cause of socialism, and the formal pardon for her former "crimes" was given.

As she served in the Intelligence Commissariat as a witch hunter and spy, she was given a typical 1800s military funeral with some "reds"(obviously) in Soviet Steam, without her body, and awarded a posthumous medal during such funeral, something like a communist purple heart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_heart), and her grave was also placed with her other medals, which also include one Excellent Scout (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Recon_CCCP.jpg.) medal and a controversially given Medal of Valour (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Medal_for_Valor_USSR.jpg/80px-Medal_for_Valor_USSR.jpg) for "sacrifice, bravery and service to the proletarian cause in hostile realms powerful of magic and reactionary forces and exceptional intelligence operations against the Theocracy of Perun and Kingdom of Yaga". How far such award came due to the influence of her father is open to question.

Heh heh, it would be ironic to emulate it exactly as it went in her land... considering she was homaged in her funeral for fighting against magic and hunting witches, with a typical communist speech praising the superiority of technology over magic and of the proletariat over mages and all.

PS: Actually I really want to try a traditional PnP-like RP in NS with low/dark fantasy and steampunk elements involving Soviet Steam with a huge adventure centered over the way how magic was "abolished" from their world by the typical four-men party of adventurers, unfortunately it is easier said than done. Once college break comes in July, perhaps I may.

And to be honest, I lost interest in this thread because I am somewhere between a Real Man and a Roleplayer (http://home.netcom.com/~shagbert/pages/munchkins.html)* and it lacked action. Maybe giving the students "quests" outside the safety of the tower to develop them through practice in a real environment could liven up things, and convince me to bring another character, but again... easier said than done.

*No wonder that First Person Shooter / RPG hybrids like System Shock 2 and Deus Ex are among my favorite computer games.




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Actually, if someone suddenly has enough time to do something like the "quests" idea... I'll have all ready, and this time the character will be from a time line where magic is almost completely extinguished in Soviet Steam.


Name: Gennadiy Filatov
Title: Gefreiter (Lance Corporal)
DOB: 07/21/1919
Age: 27 years old
Race: Human
Gender: Male
Nationality: Socialist Republic of Soviet Steam
Civil Status: Missing in Action during duty as Second-Class Sharpshooter
Previous Location: L1 section of the Western Front
Physical Description: Face Reference (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Sidorenko.png). Gennadiy is 1.83 meters tall, has 90 kg of weight, short black hair, light brown eyes, slightly tan skin and a mildly athletic complexion due to nine years of military service. Due to his previous situation serving during the Second Pangaea War, he still wears his brown-colored military uniform and his combat helmet.

Physical advantages: Keen eyesight.

Alignment(Political): Apolitical
Alignment(Moral): Nihilism
Alignment(Ethics): Nihilism
Religion: Atheism

Base Stats

Strength: 4 (Fair)
Perception: 7 (Very Good)
Endurance: 5 (Above Average)
Charisma: 4 (Fair)
Intelligence: 7 (Very Good)
Agility: 9 (Superb)
Luck: 6 (Good)

Magic/Technology Alignment: -15(Slightly magic leaning)

Studies: None

Skills: Black Powder Weapons: Rifle(Advanced) and Pistol(Basic), Melee: Swords(Advanced), Tactics(Basic)

Spell Colleges: Conveyance(Advanced), Chaos Magic(Novice).

Conveyance is the art of manipulating space and movement. Chaos Magic is extremely destructive and involves is the art of temporarily destroying the very rules that shape reality, magic itself and existence, rather than modifying them to the will of the mage as in most forms of magic.

Inventory: Empty scoped VS-1 Bolt-action rifle, canteen, empty pistol, trench short sword, prismatic rangefinder, monocular.

About that back story...only one question...

How did they hear of her death? Did they know of her resurrection?

Dastardly Stench;14771076']About that back story...only one question...

How did they hear of her death? Did they know of her resurrection?

First question: http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=561719, unfortunately that RP died before even staring :(

Second question: They are skeptical about the rumors and officially they consider that the most plausible explanation is that her body simply was lost somewhere in the Badlands or used by Ivan in failed necromancy attempts.

In the next week or so, I'm going to start a civil war in the swarm, and your all invited to come along and play if you wish. I'm going to ICly remove Irene from the tower thread temporarily while this is going on.

Backround info for those who wish it:
When the Swarm first came to Milky Way, they were continuously studied by a scientist named Dr. Yamato Nasagori. Nasagori was a human scientist of great skill, and unending interest. The Swarm thought all scientists were as he, until they met The Rotan. They learned that Nasagori was the exception, not the rule, and that unlike Nasagori, most scientists had morals, and would not experiment on sentient beings or entire societies. They learned that Nasagori had learned how to manipulate the swarm, and used them to attack The Rotan, starting an entire war for an experiment.

Uniting, The Swarm and The Rotan defeated Nasagori's consortium, even though the man himself disappeared...

For years, the swarm hunted for Nasagori, hearing his name echo through The Warp as a wanted man. Yet another name became synonomous with his, a fifth Chaos God the swarm had never heard of before, a entity named Malal...

Yes, it is true, when Nasagori escaped, he had teleported blindly with technology. The computer was set to random, and ended up teleporting him into The Warp, straight into Malal's clutches. Now he's returned, no longer human, and though he looks like one, not Swarmling either. He has been changed, given the power to attack The Overmind directly. Malal, wanting to upset so perfect an engine of Chaos as The Swarm, has Nasagori destroy any Swarmling he can take control of, including The Overmind. Thus begins a great civil war in the swarm.

Only magic would make Marxism work :(

In other words, Soviet Steam wasn't a completely dystopian police State because of it. Without it... it'll become something else eventually. A dieselpunk police State.

I already hinted too much on what I plan to do.

So, SS, got anything specific you want for a funeral?

And ES, that does sound fascinating. Does that have an OOC for that yet?

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14769071&postcount=816

Already explained it and how ironic it would be to follow her burial in the same way her memory was homaged with a corpse-less coffin with the soviet flag above it, and her medals above the flag.

A speech about her "sacrifice, bravery and service to the proletarian cause in hostile realms powerful of magic and reactionary forces" that happened during her posthumous honors would certainly... be difficult to emulate.

No Sylvonia, I'm giving myself some space of time to recover my numbers from the battle for the old ones thread. My alt, The Rotan, will also get involved.

Bringing in a character is fine as long as you remember students cannot teleport. Instructors have to be approved by staff and hired by the Chancellor (Galvenor).

Righto mate. (As I'm fairly certain that last part was aimed at me....sorry if it ain't) So, do I have an interview sort of thing....

And, if it's fine for me to bring the student in, then I'll be thinking of an intro.

I have asked those playing Instructors to run a student or two otherwise we will be top heavy.

Righto then. I'll just save my teacher for an opportune time then, after its been balanced out. I'm having fun with Aozora anyways. (Sorry if hes a bit over the top by the way, but it isn't often I get to use crazy characters)

Next Tuesday/Wednesday, I'll start my thread for those interested.

Not to worry, Mereshka. He seems to fit right in.

Hope you don't mind the Marvel Name. Everybody gets one, but nobody ever hears it directly. ;)

Hehe. Lol. Yes indeed.

Sylvonia, anyone else that was interested or I contacted such as Tanaara and Bal.

I made an ooc thread for my civil war so that events can be planned for and carefully orchestrated to glorify our own egos. I mean, uh, to make the story better!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14796458#post14796458

P.S. Every member of the white tower is invited

But you didn't contact me!

WAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! I WANT MY MOMMIEEEEE!!!!!!!

::ahem::

Thanks, ES. I think I'll look it over now... :) :) :)

Please pardon my dissappearance. I am half done with my midterms and should be back prrobably tomorrow.

Life happens, live it up

Now that I have access to a decent internet connection, I'll go check it out.

There, posted. I also dug up my two student characters and placed them in the room since they should be there. I had almost forgotten about them.

So Bal, do you want me bringing Chaz back right now, or wait for an opportune moment?

lol @ "the pointy end of that Tantrum"

I only had a few minutes before class was over so I reverted to humor. And now I'm skipping out on a video of Marie Antoinette so thank god for iPod touches.
EDIT: yes, this is Minnesota tax dollars at work in a public high school.

Bring him back when you have an idea of what to report. Him returning before that willnot do us any good in the RP.

I leave it up to you so it is your call.

Great, that means I'd better fix my computer tonight. Which, while a good thing to do anyway, means a lot of pain.

You don't forget your combat magic in the trenches

Trenches and Dragons? Really?

Just out of curiosity, am I wasting my time waiting for you all over here, or should I just go on without you? Conversation is interesting to read though. I'm still wating for Bal's empire to respond ICly, as I DID contact them.

Dammit, I thought I responded. Sorry about that.

I used Nhur-Galladu's orders to make Galvenor drop the training issue so we can get on with the RP.

Could you give me some flexi-time before you go into it? I want to try it too.

KEKEKE

Too late to come in?

We just had the crazy codger enter. You will need to create a magical student if you want to enter.

OK then.....

Name: Joshua Sephron.
Age: 16
Race: Human
Gender: Male
Nationality: Civilian of the Orinon Islands
Description: 5 foot 5 inches, has brown shoulder length hair, hazelnut eyes. Not particularly strong . Has a somewhat reserved personality.

Magic: Josh's magic is want he calls 'Red Magic'. He has control over both White and Black magics, but he can't use both at the same time. That, combined with his lack of experience, means that he has no real idea how to use his magic apart from episodes that are few and far between.

Likes: reading, the island life, the sun
Dislikes: Rain, the fact that he has magic in him.

OK then.....

Name: Joshua Sephron.
Age: 16
Race: Human
Gender: Male
Nationality: Civilian of the Orinon Islands
Description: 5 foot 5 inches, has brown shoulder length hair, hazelnut eyes. Not particularly strong . Has a somewhat reserved personality.

Magic: Josh's magic is want he calls 'Red Magic'. He has control over both White and Black magics, but he can't use both at the same time. That, combined with his lack of experience, means that he has no real idea how to use his magic apart from episodes that are few and far between.

Likes: reading, the island life, the sun
Dislikes: Rain, the fact that he has magic in him.


What exactly is Red, White, and Black magics? Can you please explain more? I am sure many people don't know what your definitions are of these and if we guessed we might be way off (Red Magic only affects things red? Think of Green lantern and his green/yellow thing for an idea what I meant by that example.)

Could you give me some flexi-time before you go into it? I want to try it too.

KEKEKE

If your referring to my civil war, by all means, make a student before everyone leaves on their field-trip.

OOCly we are waiting for Orinon and SS to finish their characters.

Concerning a few IC concerns:

Someone was worried about finding elements for her magic, Mali I think. If its naturally occurring biological elements, there's plenty in the form of Biomass, their just more mixed than normal. If its energy forms of elements, I'm certain a wise and experienced teacher like Galvenor can show her how to distill the ambient Chaos into the forms of energy she needs. There's plenty to be had, each Hive has a Chaos Temple in it, which radiates Chaos.

As for Marvel and his poor magic, well, there's physical combat.

ICly I don't think there is any time for instruction since Irene is leaving right away and your other Thread has started.

If I am wrong, please correct me. My posts are based upon this fact.

Unless you want to use Artifacts or Devices to allow temperary control for the RP...

Yes, Artifacts or devices are allowed. I would advise a ring or a necklace, or even a broach of some sort. This applies both to Mali, and Marvel, and anyone else who might need one.

Think Final Fantasy.
White Magic is Cure, Wall, Barrier, Ultima etc.
Black Magic is Thunder, Fire, Meteor etc.
Red Magic just means you can use both of them

I just finished the reentry. I will explain everything... in-character and slowly. Because explaining everything now OOCly would be spoilerific.

Perhaps a Ring of Beurocratic Casting where Marvel have to approve of his spells before they go off would help his problems with miscasting if he could "see" the results. This would obviously slow him down but it would guarentee correct results.

Any other suggestions? These I just spouted off the top of my head and are not meant to be final. I am just looking for temp ways to allow you to control yourselves better.

Concerning a few IC concerns:

Someone was worried about finding elements for her magic, Mali I think. If its naturally occurring biological elements, there's plenty in the form of Biomass, their just more mixed than normal. If its energy forms of elements, I'm certain a wise and experienced teacher like Galvenor can show her how to distill the ambient Chaos into the forms of energy she needs. There's plenty to be had, each Hive has a Chaos Temple in it, which radiates Chaos.

As for Marvel and his poor magic, well, there's physical combat.

Drai'lee, she wanted elements. So long as Mali can sing/has access to some sort of instrument she has no issues using her magic. Her main problem is that she's fairly inexperienced and her magic is fairly frail. That and she doesn't know too many spells.

On a side note, things at home are, shall we say, chaotic so there will be times when I'm on constantly and others where I could be gone for up to two weeks.

Well, Galvenor could provide you with Xos's tome of magic. It was left behind long ago. Xos Xilanthese studied magic extensivly and knew enough spells to rival galvenor in versatility. The thing about Xos's tome is, it adapts its spells to whomever weilds it, meaning that mali and her magic could easily cast at least a third of the spells in the tome.

Damn... I forgot the flamethrower, and Yelena has no fire-based stuff :(

At least she has a gun to kill herself if the Zergs infect her.

But my character has Chaos* magic. Fnord

*Not like in WH40k, but like in this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordianism)

Well, if its a flame thrower you want, Galvenor IS a master of magic, I'm sure he can conjure one up for you.

Well, Galvenor could provide you with Xos's tome of magic. It was left behind long ago. Xos Xilanthese studied magic extensivly and knew enough spells to rival galvenor in versatility. The thing about Xos's tome is, it adapts its spells to whomever weilds it, meaning that mali and her magic could easily cast at least a third of the spells in the tome.
People need to learn to stop tempting me. :(

But that does sound good.

Well, if its a flame thrower you want, Galvenor IS a master of magic, I'm sure he can conjure one up for you.

Not really, for Yelena can barely use a bolt-action rifle with her limited physical strength. Besides, I'm still undecided on whether to bring a steampunk spaceshap in the Luminiferous Aether (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_1889) or not. Hope I'm allowed to if I decide to do so.

So crushing her ribcage was probably a bad idea...

EDIT: It should be noted that the letter Zena received was from my first post is Dissention.

I should note that after you disappear everyone to Irene's Hive in the tower thread, I'll respond to it in Dissention.

Which is kinda a given, but should be said anyway.

Whomever wishes to join in is welcome and whomever sits out (my two students are not ready for this) can decide to remain where they can RP here. I will be running two Avatars for this, one in each location.

*jumps up and down*
WHAT ABOUT ME?!

If you are not at the school you cannot get on the bus for the Zerg Museum trip, right?

Red Talons expressed interest in bringing in a character that might cause a little trouble for one of my characters, a Lycan.

Get the therepy ready for Marcus(or was it Kyle, I can't remember)!

Name: Desharzim Fredrickson
Age: unknown, appears to be in late thirties
Gender: male
Height: 8ft (human) 12 ft(hybrid)
Weight: 250lbs(human) 400lbs(hybrid)
species: born lycan
sub-species: homid(human born)
Appearance: Hybrid (http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs44/f/2009/088/b/e/be413e8814ac505d19750141e92cf059.png), Human (http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs21/i/2007/264/8/2/Egyptian_by_staino.jpg).
Powers: Various spiritual gifts, specialization in summoning arts
Possessions: Egyptian book of the dead, Egyptian book of life. Staff of Was (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/96/Scepter_was.jpg/140px-Scepter_was.jpg). Egyptian sword
Likes: drinking, intelligent conversation.
Dislikes: stupidity, disrespectful attitudes/actions, hunters.

History: born in modern day america, he joined the air force with his highschool sweetheart. He experienced his first change at the age of 20 in the cockpit of his f-16 after watching his, now girlfriend, crash due to mechanical malfunction in her aircraft. It was at that point that he began to actually delve into spiritual arts. Training formally as a priest of Set. Quickly picking up the basics and moving on. He traveled to Egypt and recovered the books of life and death. Researching them in-depth and learning many new incantations, including one that would grant him eternal natural life, meaning he will continue to live untill someone kills him.

Orinon, if you hurry you can arrive before everyone leaves. You can post the Imp letting you in and leading you to where we are just like the other two new arrivals.

But I must point out, time is running out for everyone! (ICly of course)
The Swarms are on the move!

sounds like i got here just in time

1) As to Marvel's poor magic, bear in mind that Marvel thinks that it's good enough to carry him through the war he's going off to fight in. It was Angelica, not Marvel, who asked that Marve be held back.

It is true that he came to the White Tower to improve his Spell Control, but he can do that later.

(I would consider it a great favor if someone would show him what his problem is. If it was me, I'd tell him that he's trying to control his magic too much and not relaxing enough, but...others are free to come up with additional/alternative solutions.)

2) About Marvel's description of Yellena as being from an alternative universe: this is just Marvel's opinion. He doesn't have to be right about it.

On another note, Marcus is deathly afraid of wolves and it is one of his flaws. He just fainted from the panic attack he suffered.

I am glad we have no werewolf characters, or even anime wolfgirls

See what happens when I get bored? Bal, I recall you couldn't remember which was afraid of wolves.
Also, I suggest we get moving before ES gets really mad.

Also, I suggest we get moving before ES gets really mad.

*taps foot impatiently* :D

Chill out. We're working on it!

Hey! I only posted that because you mentioned it.

I'm just giving you heck. But we do need people posting so we can move on. *Nudges those who want to come with in the ribs*

*Taps foot even harder, and faster, almost achieving liftoff.*

*straps a 747 on your back and signals the pilot to take off* Tap your foot now...

Done. The Chaos Yelena was touched by is the sort of "Chaotic Neutral" thing. More like Loki/Eris/Flying Spaghetti Monster/Invisible Pink Unicorn than like WH40k stuff.

Have at it ES. I'll elaborate a bit on the last part in the IC of your thread.

EDIT: Red Talons, does your reason for editing in your last IC post seriously say "Moof?" If that was intentional and you can identify the reason I'm geeking out right now, I shall worship you till the end of eternity.

It was a mistake. He meant to write "Foom" instead.

Riiiiiiight.

Do I lie?

;)

I have doubts that you want me to answer that.

You're a demon, take that as a given ( though I absolutely refuse to state what one should take as a given.

Are you referring to Clarice the Dogcow as developed by Apple back in 83 as a print icon? Apparently it made a "moof" sound and was dropped by apple and brought back when people demanded it return.

(I had to look up Susan Kare for a homework question a few weeks ago...)

Hush you! Though you do win brownie points for getting it right.

Might I ask what homework assignment could possibly bring up Susan Kare?

Just to confirm, Red Talons and Soviet Steam were accepted into my dissention thread, incase there was doubt.

An assignment in the first unit of my Fundementals of Computer Technology. One of the questions was to discover who designed the icons for the origional Macintosh computer. Susan Kare.

Oh, that makes sense. You know, they still print t-shirts with Clarus on them, sometimes with "Moof!" printed underneath.

You're a demon, take that as a given ( though I absolutely refuse to state what one should take as a given.

One of my characters is a demon. I'm a curmudgeon in training. :) :) :)

SO THERE!!!!!!!!

Just in training? When's graduation? You clearly have enough credits.

I dunno. Never could get the old geezer with the diplomas to divulge...he kept finding excuses to say, "SO THERE!"

;)

And you didn't think to just take yours?

Ain't been printed yet.

SO THERE!!!!!! :) :) :)

Right then...

You wanted a post so I gave you one. I hope it was draumatic enough and explained his trauma. Please notice I switched to single POV as you were each drawn into and to relive his memories. The sentence feels awkward but it is necessary to switch tense and view into the needed singular one.




Also, please post here the way you want to overcome your weakensses. It is hard to come up with them on my own, especially with Finals next week.

Well we didn't really need drama, but it works. It keeps the thread alive, and that's really all we needed.

Do you mean Mali or Zena? It seems like everyone gets them confused and as Mali wasn't in Dissention...

No one will confuse them after Marvel pops that picture onto the local bulletin board, now will they?

:p 8) :p

No. But that's because Zena's going to eat Marvel's mind. :)

You might want to try something more filling...

*ducks*

Well you seem to be in a good mood. And I used "eat" loosely. Basically Zena is going to open up more of a can of Whup Ass on him than she did all throughout Warhaven's thread.

I would like this Thread to return to a more "normal" level of power. What use is a school when the students don't need it?

Things kinda gout out of hand in the battle thread as far as this Thread goes.

Indeed, though there's another possibility, a collection of NPC students.

You've got a point there. I think we were all just trying to finish things up and forgot about the limits.

Yeah, lets return to sanity here.

I am currently working on a reply for Marvel


EDIT:

Reply made. I decided to have Galvenor mistake the whole thing as a personality clash between Xos and Marvel and not knowing why Marvel wishes to "discuss history" with me. Gotta love playing ignorant...

*cough* Kneeling down, he tapped it and restored the library to it's former glory.

Also, sanity? Are you sure you're in the right place?

Fixed the post, thanks I missed that part.

Yup. I'm not one that likes having others fix my messes.

Technically the Tower would have fixed itself.

True, but I still like to tidy my own messes. For example, even though most of the car my mother and I share was her mess, I just cleaned the whole thing sans fabric. That means removing sticky crap from her exploding pop cans, cleaning the dust that gathered, cleaning out the trash she shoves in the center console, any miscellaneous cups from fast food joints, ect.
Speaking of the fabric, does anyone know a good cleaner for goo/unknown dried liquids?

Remember the teleport, gate, ect... ban on all travel into or out of the Tower. Only Eldrad, myself, and the Instructors can.

True, but I still like to tidy my own messes. For example, even though most of the car my mother and I share was her mess, I just cleaned the whole thing sans fabric. That means removing sticky crap from her exploding pop cans, cleaning the dust that gathered, cleaning out the trash she shoves in the center console, any miscellaneous cups from fast food joints, ect.
Speaking of the fabric, does anyone know a good cleaner for goo/unknown dried liquids?

Yes.

Dynamite.

Cleans it right up.

:) :) :)

I'm rather attached to the car. 1996 Chevy Cavaliers are freaking awesome, plus I can squeeze just about 34 MPG out of mine.

Heck. I only get 32 out of mine, and I drive like a little old lady.

Guess you'll have to find other, less potent, cleaning solvents. :) :) :)

Well my mother's been driving lately, so we've been dragged down to 27 cause she drives 60 with a lead foot (it's presence on the brake or accelerator is another question altogether).

And yes, less potent. Perhaps something I can find at walmart rather than an army surplus store.

I suggest you try verbally abusing the fabric. If that doesn't work then yell at it. If that still doesn't work try a Shout/Oxy-Clean combo on the stain making a paste out of the Oxy clean and working it into the Shout pretreated area. Let it sit a minute or two, and then gently scrub clean with warm water and spray the entire inside down with Fabreeze or however you write it.

If that STILL doesn't work, write Hints from Heloise, or browse her website. Woman knows more domestic secrets than should be legal.

That should be legal? That's a scary thought.

It looks like we posted within seconds of each other, haha! So, what should we do now to resolve the conflicting posts?

Check again. I deleted mine. Well, I attempted to.

I'm going to work in Zena catching them entering. She has a knack for that.

EDIT: There you be.

So, if no one has anything to post, could I speed time up and get my masters?

It seems like everyone else has been busy lately. They don't always reply to everything all at once. Give it another day and see who does what, that's my advice.

On the other hand, time doesn't always flow the same everywhere, at least, so it seems.

There is more than one way to skin a cat.

Infact, according to my extensive research, there are exactly 300 different ways to skin a cat.

As for gathering them all together ICly, well, Chron IS the time master...

That's... really quite disturbing.

And there you go, problem, meet solution.

That's... really quite disturbing.

I live but to serve. Meanwhile, I think I'll go write up a mega post.

Have fun with that. Just leave the poor kitties alone.

But, but, I was like, seconds away from devising the 301st way to skin a cat. It involved a paper clip, a balloon, and and The Swedish Bikini Team. :(

*shudders* No unnecessary animal cruelty.

For clarification purposes, no none of you have Mordenkainen's Dreadful Rot.

...and here I asked to keep the power levels down to a managable level here.

I would like this Thread to return to a more "normal" level of power. What use is a school when the students don't need it?

Things kinda gout out of hand in the battle thread as far as this Thread goes.

You've got a point there. I think we were all just trying to finish things up and forgot about the limits.

Yeah, lets return to sanity here.

I am currently working on a reply for Marvel


EDIT:

Reply made. I decided to have Galvenor mistake the whole thing as a personality clash between Xos and Marvel and not knowing why Marvel wishes to "discuss history" with me. Gotta love playing ignorant...


Also, taking inspiration from an alternate timeline is not really a logical valid reason since events that occurred there were by the very definition different. That is basically saying because I handed in my assignment for class a month late yours will be late even though you go to a different school. You could have had your time master step back and fix the oversight.

They stepped back in time to cure him because they didn't know he had the disease when they first arrived, and it takes all ten of them to whip up the potion necessary to fix it.

Your taking your late assignment back one month in time so you can hand it in on time. However, because you've done that, the timeline where you hand yours in a month late now becomes an alternate timeline. I have nothing to do with it.

Similarly, the masters have all gone back in time together since it takes all ten of them to fix up the potion. Because they've done that, the future has changed, making what was going to happen become an alternate timeline.

Also, I don't know why you bothered to quote all that. I've told you repeatedly their not staying, their only gathering and then leaving after a mini event. This is that mini event.
I've sped things up because I'm not comfortable with all their power here, and the rate at which the story progresses is far too slow for it to work normally. We're only in like what, the fourth day and the IC thread has over a thousand posts in it already.

Just relax, as soon as Sylvonia replies that no, they haven't used their powers on Xos, they'll go make their potion, and upon recovery from its effects, leave. That's like four to five more posts.

I think what Bal's getting at is that this is a school, where students are to hone their imperfect powers, and there's suddenly more people with amazing abilities than there are students.

I'll get around to posting in a moment though. I'm getting used to my old keyboard again, I had to dig it out cause my "new" one is crap. Apple dropped the ball big time on that one.

EDIT: Short and sweet but there it is. My old keyboard takes some more force to type on and I'm really out of touch with it.

Shoot, forgot about Marvel separating Xos.

Hmm...

Well, Shelly protects him again!

This next IC post inspired in part by this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3k5oY9AHHM

Heh, alright then. But wouldn't that be more magic applied to something that appears to spread through their powers?

Yes, but we're going to ignore the logical fallacies for the sake of convenience.

Alright, have fun with that.

Alright, have fun with that.

Oh I did, I did.

As was said before, The masters aren't staying, but I am.

So that begs the question, how?

I'm certainly not going to play nothing but NPC imps.

No, I told bal about a student, a character of mine that needs fleshing out, and here's the perfect place. At least Zena won't be the only insane character with MPD anymore. She'll have someone to relate to. Aiko, The Dollmistress.

stupid absent delete button.

Oh! That sounds fun! Though Zena's almost back to normal. Well, as normal as she gets anyway. This new, improved (bad word combo, I know) Zena now comes complete with periodic mood swings and less controlled emotions!

An infectious magical disease in a place teeming with interconnected magics? Of course you can understand why he wants it out immediately.

Yes, but your too late, its already been resolved, and no, glaring at them would not stop them from arguing.

Actually, it hasn't. You were never given permission to use the kitchen by the person that runs the place. Galvenor thinks using the Tower as a place to cure something that uses MAGIC to transmit itself is too dangerous and using the food prep area which is powered by magic (heating, cleaning, preserving food, ect...) would be like letting a group with Ebola in to use your kitchen possibly infecting your family.

When we were in your Thread, I abided by your wishes and even overlooked the lies you told me about holding back with Galvenor so he could fight in the final battle where he and Irene fought against the Doctor and the Malal avatar. If Irene was lying to us that also meant you lied to me in your telegrams.

This Thread (and the IC Thread) is about teaching weak students to become better. It is not about bringing in a large group of uber characters and tossing your weight around. That is not conducive to the ideal of the Thread; it is in fact quite the opposite.

My use of Galvenor shows I don't want flashy characters; he has never done anything in these two Threads other than manifesting multiple avatars and being the Chancellor to run the place. My other two characters are both inept. One is terrified of dogs and goes cationic if he sees a wolf and the other knows too much which makes it hard for him to cast spells.

In your Thread you told me to do something about Miss Entropy so I brought in a player who wanted to enter and then when you brought out Cthulhu I brought in his brother. Both were done using social networking instead of spells.

Please do not ruin it for the players in this Thread.

If I wanted to throw my weight around, I would've teleported directly into the tower and used far grander powers than I have already, such as curing Xos on the spot through a powerful spell Kalia developed, as it was she who created Mordenkainen's Dreadful Rot in the first place, as a favor to the wizard when he wanted a closer study of magical diseases. Youth and mutual inexperience got the better of Mordenkainen, thus its name.(Note: This may be a different Mordenkainen than the one in the D&D spellbooks.)

I expect basic mages like the students to be able to do what I have already, because I expect more out of magic than most people. If you took it as throwing my weight around, well, I'm sorry. In fact, the grandest, flashiest thing I'm going to do, is reverse their ages and make them young again, and that's nowhere near the grandest flashiest thing I can come up with. Everything else, any student can do, or so I expect such ability from them, provided their powers lie in that direction. I realize they may not possess such knowledge yet, but the ability, definitely.

Dissention and this situation both are fell apart due to lack of communication, I had one set of plans, everyone else followed other sets. While mind reading might exist ICly, very clearly none of us possess it OOCLY, so before we take the Magi-Master's visit any further, let us work out in EXACT detail, everything that's going to happen to them from this point on. Lets leave OOC stuff out of this, and keep it IC.

Kalia has a valid point, even if it doesn't help the situation any. Its her husband, her disease, her cure. She has never once told Galvenor how to teach, so he has no right telling her how to cure something she made in the first place, and had full control of.

She needs fire, and needs magic to formulate the cure. She needs twelve doses.

The only reason they came back in the first place was because none of them knew of it the first time around, and arrived in time to watch Xos die, thus their return trip back to this point.

As for Aiko, someone really should ask her about either the tiara, or her baby, or her past. Get her talking about any one of those, and I can reveal clues on how to heal her.
(Hint: it does not involve destroying the Tiara.)

Alternatively, if she were to be drawn into a battle somehow, the truth would reveal itself quickly after she was defeated.

Actually, it is not just me.

I have had those sentiments voiced over MSN about this. I will not give out any names so don't ask.

Now, what about working out the future? Did you not read that part, is that why you didn't post ideas of what to do next? Was it somehow hidden from you? Does no one read the entirety of my post, am I just wasting words trying to get everything planned? Is that why you didn't post a single snippit of idea on it?

Actually, it is not just me.

I have had those sentiments voiced over MSN about this. I will not give out any names so don't ask.

1) Forgive me, but how does one contact you via MSN messenger?

2) IC'ly, Galvenor was right. The White Tower is literally MADE of magic. Something like Novacaine's Horrible Leprosy (Oops! Typo! ;) ) would have a chance of spreading through the Tower itself. It was arrogant and rude of Kalia to presume that she understood not only her magical work, but Galvenor's Tower. His concerns were legit. She should have been more polite with him.

3) Regarding Marvel's future course of study, I don't know what it'll take to put him in the same league as Galvenor, Xos and the others. I've never been that serious about his magical abilities--simply because making him that powerful would limit his usefulness. I'd like to go back to the good ol' days of having his spells self-jinx in humorous ways. :) :) :) Maybe I can use the prank war with Yendor (Ol' Purple Puss) to make this happen...who knows?

Any chance that Xos can be convinced to let Marvel learn a thing or two...or a few billion...?

You know Bal, I think I had your address once upon a time. Of course, that was before (well before) I had to trash my old account. Damn hackers and spam...

They're right though. The tower and all it's protection are constantly in contact with it's inhabitants. Any shields that protect the tower would, at least in theory, protect the individuals within their boundaries and thus put them all in contact. Being told off by someone does tend to make one upset, so that part's an honest reaction, but things need to be thought out before actions are taken. Look at Mali's recent smash hit, in an attempt to calm, she knocked two people out.

As far as Josh's course of study, I don't think I want him in the same league as Galvenor or Xos. Sure it'd be fun to have an all powerful character, but like Bal said earlier, social networking can work wonders. Unlike most characters, there are consequences for him using his abilities on other people directly and I don't think I'd want to change that. It gives a certain amount of sacredness to life. There will be repercussions for what he did to the monster Nasagori, and I hinted at them earlier, but the real damage is yet to come.

Why would Marvel want to be able to tackle one of the gods of chaos? Because he's a former demon and, as such, has a certain healthy paranoia. His little pranks are partly meant to entertain, partly meant to make you wonder what he had to go through during his life in Hell. He wants to feel safe. He's never really felt completely safe in his life. There's a missing chapter to the story of Marvel and Yendor, and it involves Marvel spending time as a genie in a bottle, summoned to do Yendor's bidding.

Now, it's the gods of chaos--and maybe Galvenor, too (it is the rule rather than the exception that otherwise reasonable people have tossed Marvel's big, red butt in some prison or other before they came to understand how he disciplines his darker side)--who have decided to get on his case. Khorne told him that he was already working for the war god. Marvel finds him arrogant, but Marvel is wrong. It's not arrogance if you can back it up. This is Marvel's problem. He's tired of being kicked around.

I toyed with the idea of having him holler at Galvenor for not ending the Dissention War sooner. I decided that it shouldn't occur to him until later that Galvenor was saying that he cost countless foot soldiers their lives just for the confidence of a few students. Marvel was a foot soldier once. He will not be amused.

Perhaps someone can talk Marvel out of trying to become a god (or, at least, able to slay one). I'd actually rather prefer that. Only thing is, when they do it, they're going to have to explain to the undemon how he's going to be able to be safe. I'm sure that pointing out that merely training himself to be able to take on the gods will draw their attention in ways that he doesn't want will give him pause, but putting him in a situation where he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't will make him want to strike at his tormentors. He'll go through with it rather than just letting himself be toyed with.

So how do you deal with his sense of safety? How do you put him at ease enough to not want to be on par with gods?

On to the Twilight stuff.

Before we get down to the nitty gritty, let's start out with the general terms.

What's the conflict in the story? Who are the protagonists and the antagonists? What are they fighting over?

I thought, or at least I had believed, that I kept The Twilight story arc out of The Tower, as its something else entirely. Sorta like how a human and a chimpanzee are two entirely different things, despite being close relatives. In this instance, they are related only in that both involve magic and the masters. If you think I'm too much now, then maybe for you, Twilight isn't right. However, if your really interested, and want to talk about it, I'd be glad to discuss it with you.

...

As for Xos teaching Marvel a few things, definitely, but only under the condition he successfully prove his potential by pulling a successful joke involving magic on one of the other masters, with the exception of his wife who is about as humorless as a stump. He'll suggest Ray or Chris, but Chron's a good choice too, as all three routinely prank each other all the time, and have excellent senses of humor. Its as safe a bet that it'll go over well with them, as it would be to assume that clowns would be present in a circus.

...

Edward doesn't know everything, only what happened after his "birth", and as first born, that rules out the others knowing even more. I so badly want to just blurt it all out, but, that would ruin the fun.

...

About Kalia.

It is neither arrogance, nor rudeness on her part. I shall assume since you feel that way, you are either unmarried, or that your spouse has never been in a life threatening situation you had the power to resolve. Otherwise you would understand why Kalia assumed as she did.

Wouldn't you run into a burning building to save your own child, if you knew you had the chance to save his or her life before he or she died?

Don't rule out standard emotions and reactions just cause their older than dirt, have lots of power, and have lots of control. Magic is great, and can do many things, but Love is, has, and always will be, the greatest of all powers, and that is the source of her reaction.

About Kalia.

It is neither arrogance, nor rudeness on her part. I shall assume since you feel that way, you are either unmarried, or that your spouse has never been in a life threatening situation you had the power to resolve. Otherwise you would understand why Kalia assumed as she did.

Wouldn't you run into a burning building to save your own child, if you knew you had the chance to save his or her life before he or she died?

Don't rule out standard emotions and reactions just cause their older than dirt, have lots of power, and have lots of control. Magic is great, and can do many things, but Love is, has, and always will be, the greatest of all powers, and that is the source of her reaction.

You have completely misunderstood what I wrote.

I did not write that it was wrong of Kalia to save her husband. I wrote that it was wrong of her to holler at Galvenor. Your nonsequitir counter-argument has not changed this opinion of mine.

Dastardly Stench;14858998']You have completely misunderstood what I wrote.

I did not write that it was wrong of Kalia to save her husband. I wrote that it was wrong of her to holler at Galvenor. Your nonsequitir counter-argument has not changed this opinion of mine.

I'm a non-sequitor thinker. Regardless, that was the source of her response, and wrong or not, it is why she did it.

Eventually, in a rare act of charity, Greed helped me to help her escape.

I thought Greed was the sin opposite the virtue Charity?

The act itself is. These incarnations of The Deadly Sins actually have (currently) a .01% chance of exhibiting the virtues that oppose them. It is possible that eventually they will cease to be the Seven Deadly Sins, and become the Seven Heavenly Virtues instead.

I thought "incarnation" was a derivative of "incarnate" meaning "in the flesh." If they were truly sin incarnate, they wouldn't have any virtue in them. Otherwise they're just beings who are really, really nasty. Saying they could become the virtues is like saying if I keep posting on JOLT, I'll eventually create something to rival Shakespeare.

Thanks, Syl--or should I just start callin' ya "The Bard?"

--Anton Chekhov's latest incarnation.

Now you lost me.

"The Bard" is, of course, another name for Shakespeare.

Ohh, the ignorance of today's youth... ;)

It's summer and I've been rather busy working to forget 9th grade english. That teacher was awful. Lucky for me, I think I've got him again for my Novels class. I may change that real quick...

Don't look at me, dude. I edit novels for publishing houses. Sometimes, you'd think I've gotta change my name to "Titus Holdt." :) :) :)

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In other news, Tanara's got a problem getting to these forums, and I'm electing myself to take it to you folks. Here's her most recent TG to me (excerpt). I'm sure she'll love me posting her private conversations, but if it helps, what is there to lose? :) :) :)



Yes I can get there -to Jolt Nation States Forum- but most of the times when I am trying to scroll down the page (both in just the forum and within threads) I get redirected to other sites. It is very aggravating!




Anybody got something they can do about this?

An editor huh? So do all the spelling/grammar flaws here at JOLT bug you as much as they bug me?

Just what Telros said, have her go to forums.joltonline.com. I would suggest clicking JOLT in the NS sidebar, but they took that down when the new forum passed it's load test.

You might, I believe anything to be possible.

By Incarnation I also mean Variation/representation/forms.
I derived it from Reincarnation, to be born again. As in, these are their lives. They are free-willed beings after all.

I need to clear up something for WH and NS. Nils powers of Uncreation are only one facet and are things that should not exist. It's something that can utterly annihilate Gods, beings, the entire UNIVERSE if it's user wished it so and was strong enough. And they cannot be brought back, no matter what. Any being could try with all their might but the object, being, etc is gone forever. Something that shouldn't happen in the cycle of the universe, which does not take kindly to this abomination. The sense of wrongness is not just a little strange thing Nil is about. It's a sign the universe is giving to anyone who can listen to essentially say "This being should not exist and its powers constantly threaten all of reality." The Eighth Realm, the Void Realm, is a realm that, again, should not exist. It's existence causes damage to the universe, to where it causes strange anomalies that devour planets and causes many of the destructive things that happen in everyone's day to day lives. It is something unnatural. Most people would have either stripped the girl of her powers or killed her, due to the threat she poses, seeing as another Void mage wiped out a section of Alliance space and causes such a large rent in reality that it not only could have started to tear on its own, but it took the lives of the then Seven Masters of the Academy and all their powers to seal up.

One mage, who hadn't mastered his abilities, killed off entire fleets, armies, planets, and the seven strongest Magi the Alliance had. These abilities are meant to not exist, and commonly are used by the insane or those convinced that the universe is a place that needs to be "cleansed". The Magi are trying to avoid a horrible fate for Nil by going to Galvenor, as well as get the girl to be instilled with a sense of protecting everything rather than uncreating it, as well as being given a purpose.

It's a bit dramatic, yes, but this is the kind of thing the Magi are worried about, and I also needed to establish my magic being a bit different.

It's rare to hear that definition used when talking about the Sins, so you can see the confusion that resulted.

I need to clear up something for WH and NS. Nils powers of Uncreation are only one facet and are things that should not exist. It's something that can utterly annihilate Gods, beings, the entire UNIVERSE if it's user wished it so and was strong enough. And they cannot be brought back, no matter what. Any being could try with all their might but the object, being, etc is gone forever. Something that shouldn't happen in the cycle of the universe, which does not take kindly to this abomination. The sense of wrongness is not just a little strange thing Nil is about. It's a sign the universe is giving to anyone who can listen to essentially say "This being should not exist and its powers constantly threaten all of reality." The Eighth Realm, the Void Realm, is a realm that, again, should not exist. It's existence causes damage to the universe, to where it causes strange anomalies that devour planets and causes many of the destructive things that happen in everyone's day to day lives. It is something unnatural. Most people would have either stripped the girl of her powers or killed her, due to the threat she poses, seeing as another Void mage wiped out a section of Alliance space and causes such a large rent in reality that it not only could have started to tear on its own, but it took the lives of the then Seven Masters of the Academy and all their powers to seal up.

One mage, who hadn't mastered his abilities, killed off entire fleets, armies, planets, and the seven strongest Magi the Alliance had. These abilities are meant to not exist, and commonly are used by the insane or those convinced that the universe is a place that needs to be "cleansed". The Magi are trying to avoid a horrible fate for Nil by going to Galvenor, as well as get the girl to be instilled with a sense of protecting everything rather than uncreating it, as well as being given a purpose.

It's a bit dramatic, yes, but this is the kind of thing the Magi are worried about, and I also needed to establish my magic being a bit different.

Our magic is so similar though, its frightening. My destructive magic comes from outside of everything, in a place that literally, does not exist, The Void, which is ruled over by an entity that does not Exist, The Spirit of Nothingness.
Agrinja's magic has the power to uncreate gods, yes, and entire swaths of The Universe, but he won't do that, because he has control.

He's also the Archwizard of Creation. He has both sides within him, balancing him, keeping him from going insane. What if, instead of stripping her of magic entirely, I either helped you change it to something more acceptable, or gave her the power of Creative magic? This additional power could either be instead of, or addition to, her current powers.

Her powers are fine to me. It's that she has been given a shitty hand in her existence and now has this power. I also don't intend to have her magic stripped. I was merely saying most magic organizations would have done so, since sealing it won't work. Also, I wouldn't try giving her any abilities, since the realm she's connected to is basically an infinite hungry maw where magic and everything dies. If you try to grant her abilities, they will simply be sucked into her and the realm, strengthening them both for a time.

Also, I don't quite get your void. I don't see how something can't exist but yet exists. My Void shouldn't exist but it does. But I don't see how something can't exist or doesn't, and yet is IN this realm of existence.

As for what Agrinja can do, here's an idea of what Nil COULD do. As I have said, Balefire, the Uncreating Magic she has right now, is only one of her potential abilities. A Master of this realm, which has not yet happened, could create a rent in reality so large that it could not be contained and it would then tear all of reality into pieces, feeding it into the Void Realm, until nothing was left BUT the Void Realm. Anything that tried to be created would be instantly devoured. And it would then simply move on to the next plane of existence, now having the capacity to eat them.

A user of this magic is a threat to all creation; the Magi are taking an enormous risk in letting Nil actually develop her powers.

Her powers are fine to me. It's that she has been given a shitty hand in her existence and now has this power. I also don't intend to have her magic stripped. I was merely saying most magic organizations would have done so, since sealing it won't work. Also, I wouldn't try giving her any abilities, since the realm she's connected to is basically an infinite hungry maw where magic and everything dies. If you try to grant her abilities, they will simply be sucked into her and the realm, strengthening them both for a time.

Also, I don't quite get your void. I don't see how something can't exist but yet exists. My Void shouldn't exist but it does. But I don't see how something can't exist or doesn't, and yet is IN this realm of existence.

As for what Agrinja can do, here's an idea of what Nil COULD do. As I have said, Balefire, the Uncreating Magic she has right now, is only one of her potential abilities. A Master of this realm, which has not yet happened, could create a rent in reality so large that it could not be contained and it would then tear all of reality into pieces, feeding it into the Void Realm, until nothing was left BUT the Void Realm. Anything that tried to be created would be instantly devoured. And it would then simply move on to the next plane of existence, now having the capacity to eat them.

A user of this magic is a threat to all creation; the Magi are taking an enormous risk in letting Nil actually develop her powers.

It is The Void's own self-contradictory nature that makes it so dangerous. How can you hurt something that doesn't exist, yet can hurt you? The Light.

It is The Omnisource, and The Light of The Omni that counters all destruction. The Omni is infinite, and can neither be destroyed, nor eaten. He could fill the entirety of The Void realm, just as he does, The Void, and still be Omnipresent everywhere else. He is The Infinite. It is by The Omni, that destructive power does NOT tear all of reality into pieces. Someone more powerful than this young lady could ever be once sought to destroy everything. He had the power to do it too. He failed.

I understand a bit now.

However, the problem I see here is that our magic systems here are different. You have the Omni to counter the Void and the Void seems to be a part of the universe, a balance of sorts.

Mine is no such thing. It is an disruptive force, threatening the balance of the universe. Also, WH, since I can't think of any other way to say this, you have no say on how powerful I choose to make my characters, just as I have no say on yours. We can say when we feel they are exerting too much of their power, but their potential is up to the player.

Sorry.

You could borrow Omni if you want, there's more than enough to go around.

Warhaven, I am going to put this blunt so there is no misunderstanding.

Calm the shit down or get out of the Thread.

I would like to remind you the White Tower was started as an opposition to the school you were going to start and the things that happen here are mine to control. You continue to populate the school with characters from nowhere that are uber-powered to say the least. If you wanted a character here it would have to be a basic powered one that has a lot to learn. They are students who need instruction.

Currently you have four times the number of characters in the Thread than any other player, and the doll-mistress is the least powered one. Every other character you have brought in needs no instruction because they are all over powered or already “masters”. You are even trying to push your magics and beliefs onto others.

Do you have any idea how bad you are disrupting the Thread? We cannot even have classes because you disrupted the meeting we were having ICly to set the curriculum with Irene’s arrival and her little war. Ever since it has been one thing after another and you are preventing the others from being able to play their characters properly. This is wrong.

Also, it feels like you are trying to take control of the Tower with the way you are posting in the Thread. You are not in control here. If you want to, finish creating the school I was supposed to be opposite of and start your stuff there. Stuff like this is the reason the other players got pissed at you in the last White Tower Thread. I will not speak more of the past other than that reference and only to make you think about your past actions repeating themselves again.

In short, calm the shit down, get the uber-characters out, and remember you are not in control here.

Jeeze, work a 16 hour shift, sleep, work a 12 hour shift, sleep and this is what I find.

I was not pushing, I was discussing, and offering a power of my own, as I have, to date, NEVER encountered anyone else with the magic of Destruction, and wanted to know more about it. I believe Agrinja walked off, so their not there anymore. Its as simple as that, it always has been.

Any further delays or disruptions will not be mine.

Originally the idea of the White Tower was to be a rival school for the school that was being set up at the Wizard's Council. Seeing as said council fell apart before it got it's feet off the ground and we have yet to finalize the curriculum here, I've started The College of Metaphysical Arts (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8553). It's a rival school, which hopefully we can use to provide the White Tower with some healthy competition.

I fully endorse this and I would think it is OK if the workload is not to much to have characters in both schools. I made and submitted an elementalist that can be asked to fill in as an instructor if needed. (mid level/grad student type)

I am also wondering what would be the best method of moving the 1200 paged Thread from JOLT to NS. We will take the II sub-boards while the CMA will mine the NS sub-boards for members. That way when we do stuff together it truely will be from different worlds.

With rumor of the Mods no longer having their abilities on JOLT, it might be better to move sooner than later.

Then, I will step out of your way. Something awesome happened offline, and its going to eat up all my free time. I doubt my school on the NS boards will take off anyway, and this offline event is far more important to me than RP. Don't get me wrong, I'll still post, just, not as frequently.

Have you ever had a concept so occupy your thoughts, that it filled all your senses and changed your reality? I hope so, then you'll understand just how amazing this offline event is.

What was her name?

How much did she cost?

Have you ever had a concept so occupy your thoughts, that it filled all your senses and changed your reality?

Yes, then I woke up.

Back to the important topic.

How about the moving of the Tower to the new boards? Should we just smooth over some stuff like classes, curriculum, ect that we were in the process of doing ICly before we were distracted?

I would like the thoughts of those participating.

I say we finish up the current "day" by enrolling Nil, settling the exact teaching methods and classes, and then call it quits on this forum. Once that's done, we should start the first day of classes on NS. Perhaps someone (Hint hint, nudge nudge Bal as this is your thread) should post a new OOC/signup on NS before we move the IC over.

I'm for it. Syl and I are discussing the curriculum (among other things) on MSN. You're welcome to join us, Bal, BTW...

I agree, we will finish this "day" and set up curriculums (even if we have to do it over MSN). We wil then start the next Thread on the new Forums.

When I get the chance to make the initial post (today was my Monday as far as work goes) I will do so.

Shit, this is still going? My friend from school created the original in his brief stint on NS. Awesome.

Yup, still going. And we're migrating to the new NS forum soon to boot.

Though to be more accurate, this is a revisit and though we're 1400 posts in, we haven't started classes.

OOC: Dastardly, did something happen that I missed? Also, I hope I'm not bothering you with our recent IC tizzy, =P.


I'm fine; think you got everything. It just seems unfair to me that your characters should say things in the middle of my post that my characters would have responded to, changing the post itself. It's kind of like interrupting someone else's conversation. I'm not going to go to war over it or anything, though. Life's too short to fight over characters in stories.

Well, that's how I normally rp. I wrote what my characters would say, how ELSE am I supposed to write? The way I understood it, a post happens and someone says something. I start the beginning of my post from the beginning of that post and write my characters reaction to it. The person who I was posting with does the same to mine and we continue.

That's how I learned; I don't know any other way to do it.

If you notice, I did the same thing in my post, commenting on Galvenor in the office and finishing that part up and carrying through the entore conversation in the waiting room. NS has always been like this to allow the posts to roll instead of being restrained to single posts. If it wasn't this way, you would never get the chance to respond to anything someone else said unless they stopped their post right there. It allows for fluid play and everyone rolls with it to make an ever changing story.

Then I'll just have to start editing my posts. Fine. No problem.

I don't mean to be pushy or anything, but if you have any suggestions or explanations of how you do it, I'm willing to listen to them.

When Balrogga made his posts, though he wrote events that happened "in the middle" of my posts, he was careful not to put in anything that my characters would respond differently to, changing the post. You used no such care, Telros. This is not a problem. Nonetheless, from now on, I will be modifying my posts to add in those responses from my characters.

My suggestion is that you use care not to put something in the "action in the middle" that would cause a change in the previous post--IF you want to work it that way. There is no law saying that you have to, and I certainly have no issue with you expressing yourself, or with your characters expressing themselves. If you want to keep on doing things the way that you're doing them, I have no grounds to punish you for it, and I wouldn't attempt to punish you for it if I had the grounds because I don't think you're doing anything wrong. I'm only interested in the quality of the finished posts.

Furthermore, I won't be editing any of the posts that I have made up to now.

BTW, let me know when the thread gets crossed over. I'm sure Tanara would like to know this, too.

While talking with Bal, he's made it sound like the new OOC won't be moved over until we're closer to being finished here. Tanara is welcome, however, to post in the sister school to the White Tower, mentioned earlier by Bal and myself. It's not the same, I know, but it's something.

Speaking of MSN, DS, I have a reply for you. Yes, I do, but I have an app on my iPod Touch that keeps me connected at all times, which is why I didn't catch your message until I got home and had a WiFi connection.

I want to finish this "day" before moving to the new forums. I think we are getting close.

I will announce and post the link for the move on both Threads here too.

Does finishing this day include the curriculum or not?

We can set the curriculum over MSN if you want to make it done faster and just say it happened in the background. I want to finish the regular stuff for today.


Also...

Since neither the White Tower or The Academy allows any of the Black Arts, I have created a third school to take care of these areas. The number of students will be severly limited and the location is secret only findable after a long search.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9535

That sounds preferable. Things keep getting delayed anyway so we can simply lock Marvel, Josh, and Galvenor in the office and start the next thread having finished it.

The third school allows for options to be explored where neither of our schools offer much help. While the College does offer some basic study, anything beyond theory is not offered for the Dark Arts.

I have a quick question, what school of magic would be the manipulation of sound?

Alteration School since you are altering the sound waves. That would be a good start but there would probably be several other schools including Illusion (Audible Glammer to make the "illusion" of voices, ect...) so there would be secondary areas to study for their basics and/or the spells they contain.



Please note: I was using the D&D classifications in my answer.