NationStates Jolt Archive

Apology denied! I am deeply offended and shall never forgive you. Ever.

jerk.

EDIT: wow, one-hour time warp.

the Thon, specifically
no the lot of you shooting things off fun to watch

EDIT: wow, one-hour time warp.

yur and that Jolt playing up really bad like saying to me i can't edit a post as i was not logged in, when i was

i contest your assertion that i am leaning towards TAP, I hold no such bias. NB and Leo were the first allies i ever had in this game. If i were to lean towards anyone, it would be them.

so there.


Same here they are the first allies I had as well.

so there back at you. :p

lol yes, I'd just imagined that since I am one of the aggressors anyone who wants peace are usually for the defenders and ones being attacked and sympathetic to them. My apologies I am wrong lol. Sorry. I updated the sides on the post above again now. I kinda have many bias hehe and don't shirk from showing them not caring if I'm wrong or not. as my grandma used to say:

"You'd be surprised what you can get away with if you just politely ask people the worst that can happen is mostly they just say no."

That and something along the lines of being wrong: "If your wrong someone might correct you, so no sense holding it in and being wrong for so long and much longer when it can be corrected all the sooner and you can get to things done right before a mess and such things continue or happen."

and as above you have indeed corrected me lol.
assertion withdrawn:D
Thankyou kindly.


yup you making a nice mess that i like watching

Yes it is quite exciting isn't it? I didn't imagine that my first posts, thread, conflict, war, allies, enemies and involvement in NationStates would be so much fun!

but are you referring to me the Thon, specifically? as in


making a nice mess

because I'd hate to be a bad Roleplayer, or thread wide nuisance. well...with the exception of my enemy TAP lol. I hope my posts have been entertaining, helpful, intriguing, informative and cleared up things.

I agree with Thon. We need a maximum in this.

lol nope except for the timewarp I think your RPing has been good. On the other hand mines not the best so... btw what happened around the pillar of creation ? did I miss a post or something?

Thats easy for the agressors to say, they nearly outnumber us :eek:

Thats easy for the agressors to say, they nearly outnumber us

no we don't, go back and read the thread you.

with TAP 3 or more puppets ya'll outnumber us. plus since were invading his mainland he will always outnumber us cause his whole countries population is there as well. TAP still supposedly has a little under 80 Nimitz aircraft carriers out their with his fleet and a few thousand shy of 200,000 fighters left in his airforce on his mainland. when Colstream joined it was looking bad, for us. TAP's puppet NOVA Corporation used a nuke on one of our fleets, my fleet is virtually destroyed and that's all I got so that eliminates me for the most part.

I'm virtually wiped out, so no it's actually the opposite, it's very UNEASY for me say.


but since I pay attention and read the thread and others' posts it's easier for me to say still than yourself who I gather doesn't.

So nearly is hardly correct as well.

I lost a fleet to a nuke, and my ships are greatly outnumbered by his and by you guys, I don't know about you but I think we can place a limit on the defenders here.

The aggressors we can place a limit on too.

Dawoad: I think that by the time you get what's going out, my bombers would be well out of range.

Dawoad: I think that by the time you get what's going out, my bombers would be well out of range.

O i have no hope in hell of catching your guys unless they come in for another round lol that was more just moral support than anything else plus I wanted to remind people that my second and third fleet are in theater . . . .on second thought I am not so sure that that was a good idea lol leaf and his massive space based attacks et all lol

[EDIT] does ne1 have a map?????? I'm getting pretty lost here

this whole space war thing is, in my opinion, a bit too far PMT, but then again, I play MT all the way, minus the PMT "secret projects" of course.


anyways Leocardia? what remains of your fleet, I think by now it should be in ocean, after I have dumped well over 10,000 missiles in it......

as a matter of fact, what are the fleets left?

this whole space war thing is, in my opinion, a bit too far PMT, but then again, I play MT all the way, minus the PMT "secret projects" of course.


anyways Leocardia? what remains of your fleet, I think by now it should be in ocean, after I have dumped well over 10,000 missiles in it......

as a matter of fact, what are the fleets left?

OOC: The Hyperions are a merger of the AC-130 and the YAL-1 with significantly improved capability. PMT concerns are the least of your worries.

To be fair my things are close to MT than his are.

Thon: please don't insult people who make an offer that is pertinent to the war. I am trying to build a reputation as a mediator, and hence I am offering participants in multiple conflicts a chance to hold a peace conference on neutral ground.

Your expression of doubt in my good faith is understandable and acceptable, your insults are not.

I lost a fleet to a nuke, and my ships are greatly outnumbered by his and by you guys, I don't know about you but I think we can place a limit on the defenders here.

The aggressors we can place a limit on too.

yes defenders limit is um 8 id say, and with TAP's 3 puppets it is already 8, so no more id say hehe

as for the aggressors 8 is limit as well, so since were at 5, we have room for 3 more to join us against TAP and his allies! Muwhahaha!

OOC: The Hyperions are a merger of the AC-130 and the YAL-1 with significantly improved capability. PMT concerns are the least of your worries.

To be fair my things are close to MT than his are.
Yesterday 4:42 PM

Yes I by far agree, except that what modern tech you do have is quite alot I'd say lol! Especially in space. Mokastas space fighters with coil guns, all these generators y'all post about, hydroponic towers, bio fuels, whatever Dawoads SHIELD thing is, all very PMT to me or rather future tech actually. Leafanistan I'd imagine your space weapon unleashed on TAP pillar is similar to the beam weapon used in the James Bond movie "Die Another Day" although not sun based as I see from reading. lol cool that'll teach him, with his ridiculous hyperions, hydrotowers "totally self sufficient and self sustaining economy", 3 puppets, nuking one our fleets, and his absurd space elevators!!!:eek:

Thon: please don't insult people who make an offer that is pertinent to the war. I am trying to build a reputation as a mediator, and hence I am offering participants in multiple conflicts a chance to hold a peace conference on neutral ground.

Your expression of doubt in my good faith is understandable and acceptable, your insults are not.

whatever, good to see someone is taking a serious dedication or care to fulfilling some type of roleplaying niches and be good at it. I wish you good luck in it. But not here.

and if you feel insulted at what little nonoffensive thing I even barely mentioned and not directed at you, unless you interpreted "Who the hell are you?" as offensive. Cause that was and is a totally legitimate question. So buck up you wuss, and get the hell out of here and never post again in this thread you stinking pacifistic waste of time useless person. If you couldn't handle what I said before and reacted that way then you have much to learn and farther to go before you achieve your goal.

The world and life doesn't provide what you ask for, it provides you what you need.


I don't give a darn that you are trying to build a reputation as a mediator, or feel as if you were insulted when I even didn't do as such. Those of us that are in this thread are in it for the enjoyment and the conflict, except maybe the sore loser TAP. And we don't want you to just waltz in here, since we have no idea who the hell you are and you have nothing to do with this and for the other reasons I posted in the post that you foolishly took to be insulting. We don't want you to work for peace here, and we don't want peace either, we want TAP's unconditional surrender or a conditional surrender that are our terms! Please take note of this you little pacifistic loony!


If you are ever present in any peace conference or such that I'm involved in something along these lines will happen.

"Requested: one stealth plane, radar jammer, and one low yield nuclear warhead.-purpose-surprise party for foreign dignitary."

hint: you=foreign dignitary

peace will not suffer here until freedom for entrapped Commonwealth citizens is ensured and done and reparations, revenge and assurance such atrocities suffered at the hands of NOVA will never happen again, (aka allied approved regime change)

Here is the price of freedom: Your every drop of courage, ounce of pain, pint of blood, paid in advance.



pacifism is stupid, so the path you chose for your roleplaying niche, I will respect and wish you luck in your endeavors, but not and never when it includes anything I'm in and involved in aka this thread.


Life? Life's pretty much a knife fight in a dirt-floored bar: and if they get you down, you best get back up.

so staying down, giving up not fighting, diplomacy, negotiation, submission, or getting up and running away is not always the answer or the best thing to do here, especially for such short term conflicts. so bug off and take what things against you that aren't even insults like a man. else you will indeed get the insults you were looking for or thought you had already.

Well, that's the end of my rant:D I'll just ignore New Chalcedon from now on instead of draw things out and give him any satisfaction hehe. I mostly did it for the fun and intrigue lol! And to have an excuse to post some cool quotes. I like em does anybody else?

Wow! Don't some people make Nationstates there life and take it too seriously, instead of just a pastime or hobby that's loads of fun or what?!

It is a loads of fun past time....and I am not getting annoyed or anything like that, but his puppets are just mere "factions" in his nation. Much like my Montana Inc works independently of the government but in the event of an invasion would work with it to protect national interest. i wouldn't call them "allies" just different groups in TAP.

I do not know what generators you are talking about, but my space fighters are friggen huge, coil guns are very PMT, hell we got em now, just not in military use yet, i would say a very weak ion drive would be too....

Dam! despite me getting licked, I think I've made quite a dent with what little I have! Even though this is my first thread and posts ever I believe I am pretty good! pretty damn good! hehee I'm having fun! sorry just have to brag and downright agree with you Mokastana. It is indeed a loads of fun past time.:D

Am I doing good here or what?!

...or terrible since I'm getting my butt licked.....eww.... maybe not the right metaphor here......um butt whooped...

oh well I guess that all just hinges on whether my allies help me or not, and if TAP is actually realistic and fair and roleplays more than his dang 10% aircraft casualties. arrrrg the nerve! Does anyone agree with me here that he should of suffered way more? If not every darn aircraft at least 20%?!

please give me some feedback here cause despite me having fun, and losing,....... having fun, and winning...is...well.......funner!

lol:D

Plus I'm still looking for a region to join since TAP kicked me out of his. Any offers?

Dam! despite me getting licked, I think I've made quite a dent with what little I have! Even though this is my first thread and posts ever I believe I am pretty good! pretty damn good! hehee I'm having fun! sorry just have to brag and downright agree with you Mokastana. It is indeed a loads of fun past time.:D

Am I doing good here or what?!

...or terrible since I'm getting my butt licked.....eww.... maybe not the right metaphor here......um butt whooped...

oh well I guess that all just hinges on whether my allies help me or not, and if TAP is actually realistic and fair and roleplays more than his dang 10% aircraft casualties. arrrrg the nerve! Does anyone agree with me here that he should of suffered way more? If not every darn aircraft at least 20%?!

please give me some feedback here cause despite me having fun, and losing,....... having fun, and winning...is...well.......funner!

lol:D

Plus I'm still looking for a region to join since TAP kicked me out of his. Any offers?

Your OOC is a bit heavy in the IC thread. Anything you aren't sure about your weapons post here, not there. And clean up the English a bit, it is kind of hard to read this internet speak for the non-english as a first language people here.

I'll try my best to resupply you.

whats your first language?

I'm 21 and speak Farsi, Russian and English. as for Spanish, well I'm from near Houston Texas and since many refuse to learn English I refused to learned Spanish and took German in high school instead.

Plus Farsi (Persian not Arabic-its what they speak in Iran) is good and the language I'm practicing and learning for becoming a Green Beret once I make Captain. (I'm a 2LT now)

Did you know by learning Farsi, I also learn to read Arabic since they use the same alphabet? that's a bonus to another language sweet! now I can read all the crud in Iraq, read it...just cant speak it.

whats your first language?

I'm 21 and speak Farsi, Russian and English. as for Spanish, well I'm from near Houston Texas and since many refuse to learn English I refused to learned Spanish and took German in high school instead.

Plus Farsi (Persian not Arabic-its what they speak in Iran) is good and the language I'm practicing and learning for becoming a Green Beret once I make Captain. (I'm a 2LT now)

Did you know by learning Farsi, I also learn to read Arabic since they use the same alphabet? that's a bonus to another language sweet! now I can read all the crud in Iraq, read it...just cant speak it.

My first language was Mandarin but I took ESL and many many afterschool programs to learn diction. The rambling sort of run on sentences along with plenty of ellipsises confuse me and they look terrible. Keep typing the way you just did, just cut the ellipsis out.

Dam! despite me getting licked, I think I've made quite a dent with what little I have! Even though this is my first thread and posts ever I believe I am pretty good! pretty damn good! hehee I'm having fun! sorry just have to brag and downright agree with you Mokastana. It is indeed a loads of fun past time.:D

Am I doing good here or what?!

...or terrible since I'm getting my butt licked.....eww.... maybe not the right metaphor here......um butt whooped...

oh well I guess that all just hinges on whether my allies help me or not, and if TAP is actually realistic and fair and roleplays more than his dang 10% aircraft casualties. arrrrg the nerve! Does anyone agree with me here that he should of suffered way more? If not every darn aircraft at least 20%?!

please give me some feedback here cause despite me having fun, and losing,....... having fun, and winning...is...well.......funner!

lol:D

Plus I'm still looking for a region to join since TAP kicked me out of his. Any offers?

I'll try resupplying you. Yeah. TAP definitely should have lost more. Having that many planes in the sky at the same time makes communication very confusing. Oh and, my region, the territories of south arctica, is open.

whats your first language?

I'm 21 and speak Farsi, Russian and English. as for Spanish, well I'm from near Houston Texas and since many refuse to learn English I refused to learned Spanish and took German in high school instead.

Plus Farsi (Persian not Arabic-its what they speak in Iran) is good and the language I'm practicing and learning for becoming a Green Beret once I make Captain. (I'm a 2LT now)

Did you know by learning Farsi, I also learn to read Arabic since they use the same alphabet? that's a bonus to another language sweet! now I can read all the crud in Iraq, read it...just cant speak it.

you speak Farsi?

can I ask you a question:

So i have this character named Nicoli Kushkev, and I heard his name is something horrible in Farsi, from another NSer, so does it mean something, and what?

If anyone has or uses any Beriev A-40 Albatross's

http://crunch22.blogspot.com/2007/08/beriev-40-albatross.html

You could possibly evacuate my people that way.


Oh and thank you by the way.

I'm not fluent in it, I can speak to and with an Iranian and understand him somewhat and have a decent conversation but I'm still learning. And lol no I would never have any idea what a name means in another language except maybe when it comes to his their father or such. There just names to me. I'm a 21 year old white Texan bred 2LT in the Kansas army national guard who hasn't finished my bachelors degree yet so I don't know that much, hell the vocabulary is troublesome enough to memorize. I took 4 semester of Farsi at Wentworth military academy in Lexington Missouri, but they don't have Farsi as a follow on language at my follow on college so there making me take on a whole another fuckin language to meet my degree requirement. I want the degree but I don't want or like them forcing me to take French now...that and I'm failing it right now...eh French...I spit on the language, like we are ever going to fight them lol, if they would ever or could ever do so even remotely effectively that is. I worry about their country having nukes...

I give them one thing though, for all of Europe they are the only one with a nuclear powered aircraft carrier, Europe's largest too. kinda odd huh? you think Britain would surpass them in that area wouldn't you?

and there new president is quite cool.

and even though I speak russian as well, its still just a Russian name to me. my name "Jonathan" means gift of god in Hebrew I think but who the hell teaches those sort of things in language class lol. Sorry. I'll see if I can ask my teacher though.

as for TAP I think he should of lost all of them.

and Leafanistan, if what your sending me doesn't have a range that exceeds 19 miles, they may not be even remotely useful. MLRSs and BM-21 Grad usually aren't built for range, and few of their ordnances that they fire can have ranges that exceed 50 miles. That's why I felt the burning need to describe my details and specs in what was fired from them.

If anyone has or uses any Beriev A-40 Albatross's

http://crunch22.blogspot.com/2007/08/beriev-40-albatross.html

You could possibly evacuate my people that way.

as for TAP I think he should of lost all of them.

and Leafanistan, if what your sending me doesn't have a range that exceeds 19 miles, they may not be even remotely useful. MLRSs and BM-21 Grad usually aren't built for range, and few of their ordnances that they fire can have ranges that exceed 50 miles. That's why I felt the burning need to describe my details and specs in what was fired from them.

I have a few A-40 Albatrosses as my navy is exploring ekranoplans and seaplanes are part of a new littoral strategy.

They'll be able to resupply you with Exocet missiles in large quantities.

What exactly do you need?

My first language was Mandarin but I took ESL and many many afterschool programs to learn diction. The rambling sort of run on sentences along with plenty of ellipsises confuse me and they look terrible. Keep typing the way you just did, just cut the ellipsis out.

leaf I am impressed. Your english is much better than mine and english is my first language.

leaf I am impressed. Your english is much better than mine and english is my first language.

My first language is Cantonese. But I took ESL classes in elementary school that I'm good at English, but my accent is still on me.

My first language is English, second language is Chinese, third language is Taiwanese.

umm....English....and spanish-ish....

Holy cow! almost everyone here is at least bilingual! But more to my amazement trilingual as well! Wow! I'm shocked! And to be honest quite humbled.

I have a few A-40 Albatrosses as my navy is exploring ekranoplans and seaplanes are part of a new littoral strategy.

They'll be able to resupply you with Exocet missiles in large quantities.

What exactly do you need?

Exocet missiles...hmm I'm a bit picky on missiles lol!

Well since my fleet is decimated. I actually really need to get hell out of there. Unless those of you that have invaded his mainland divert to holding the land that I got to further continue Operation Skyrain with what similar artillery type means and equipment that ya'll have.

I really just need to pull out. Especially if TAP is going to roleplay suffering such few losses at what i throw at him such as only 10% of his aircraft.

lol. Like his aircraft on afterburners could outrun my missiles. how absurd. Maybe get out of their range before they hit them yes. But outrun as in speed wise no.

but as in what missiles that I need:

* ATACMS Block III TACMS-P (P = Penetrator)
The Tactical Missile System Penetrator (TACMS-P) is an Advanced Concept Technology Demonstration (ACTD) program to demonstrate integration of the Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) booster with a Navy reentry body, resulting in an improved capability against buried and/or hardened targets. The TACMS-P range extends to 220 kilometers and will be compatible with the Multiple Launch Rocket System family of launchers. The reentry body has maneuvering capabilities for increased accuracy.
* MGM-168 ATAMCS Block IVA specifications:
These guided missiles are launched from an M270A1 MLRS (Multiple Launch Rocket System) launcher, and maximum range is 300 km (186 miles). The ATACMS is tasked primarily with the destruction of tactical surface-to-surface missile sites, air defense sites, and C3 (Command, Control and Communications) complexes. 32 MGM-140A missiles were fired in Operation Desert Storm against Iraqi targets.

Those are the ammunitions that I need. It's either those or similar ones that MLRSs can fire. What you give me has to have a range of at least 200Km however. I am firing from the islands after all. There is the distance of the water between me and his mainland, and range is good if I am to realistically hit his airbases, the Pillar, and Dawoad's fleet in the Tortuga sea.

the upgrades that I have on my missiles:-

coated with heat hardening and reflective coating of the projectiles, which would increase the necessary laser exposure time from THEL and airborne laser antimissile defenses.

-aren't necessary. No matter how crude anything you give me, if I can fire them and they will reach or at least force him to use up countermeasures and ammo then I'll take them and fire them first chance that I get.

Any:
*BrahMos 2 missiles
*RIM-8K Talos SAMs (Thon modern day enhanced version built on the Talos extended range platform)
*SM-2MR Block IIIBs
*Barak 8 SAM LRMs
*Ship Point Defense Missile Systems of Barak missiles
*Aster 30 SAMs
*SA-N-9 Gauntlet.
*RIM-162 ESSMs
or any missiles that could theoretically fit inside my launch systems I could use.

But it would be more effective if you either just fired what missiles you had or aid me in a tactical withdrawal I believe.
Because my cruisers hold alot of missiles, so I would imagine that it would be impractical and impossible for any one to resupply them in time or back to full payload, so after TAP gets back on and posts, if they don't get destroyed, I will just have what few ships I have left retreat full speed to join back up with my aircraft carriers near Burlovia's forces.

and as for gun and cannon ammo, well I pretty much don't have any navy guns except goalkeepers, railguns, millennium guns, and metalstorm defenses. And since they are leaving after TAP makes a post or two, they are not needed, and I do not want to risk any of your planes in those attempts. The risk benefit ratio is far too negative.

My Only language is English and Thon what missiles are you using

EDIT i now see your edit

I'm gonna try to set up an orbat page here. SO ill start with mine. reply or post yours and Ill get them up and try to update them as much as possible with losses etc.

In and Near TAP
The Thon
Outside combat zone
*6 Nautilus class troop warfare and landing submarines
**19 Super aircraft carriers which are in detail:
*1 Cybele class aircraft carrier
*8 Thethys class aircraft carriers
*4 Racknor class aircraft carriers
*6 Karak class aircraft carriers
*2 Cryon class aircraft carriers ( these are Merc ships not Thon)

Inside Combat Zone
*10 DDG 1000 Zumwalt Class - Multimission Destroyers
*8 submarine tender ships
*various unknown number of small theater patrol submarines
*40 Sarmizegetusa class - defensive arsenal cruisers
*lots of sailors and navy men in the water and on burning ships
*stranded army soldiers and marines on Barbary Islands
*8 Thon Sarmizegetusa class - defensive arsenal cruisers
*4 merc modified supertankers loaded as much possible with AA guns,flack guns, missile defenses, chaff and smoke launchers of various colors


the ASD

First Fleet
ASDS Issac brock-lightly damaged
ASDS Titan- medium damage (Offensive capabilities gone)
1x Shield Badly Damaged
2x shields medium damage
1x Shield light damage
1x Sword Extremedamage (crippled)
3x Swords Lightly Damaged
7X strikes
5x cloak SSNs
10x Beaver class military transports
10x Kilaue class Resupply ships

Naval Air wings Embarked
Air wing one aboard ASDS Issac Brock
5X Eagle class AWACS
25X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
25X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
10X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close support aircraft
5X Hercules medium range air-air refueling planes
10X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter


Air wing Two aboard ASDS Titan
5X Eagle class AWACS
10X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
12X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
5X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close Support Aircraft
2X B-5A Owl-1 Medium Range Stealth Bomber
10X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter

Second fleet
Three Haven class carriers
Six Shield class missile defense and EW ships
Ten Sword class Heavy Battle cruisers
Twenty Strike class missile attack boats
Seven Cloak class SSNs
Twenty Beaver class military transports
Ten Kilaue class Resupply ships
Fifty Liberty Class All purpose Transports


Naval Air wings
Air wing one aboard ASDS Adventure'
5X Eagle class AWACS
25X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
25X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
10X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close support aircraft
5X Hercules medium range air-air refueling planes
10X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter

Air wing Two aboard ASDS Nimitz
5X Eagle class AWACS
25X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
25X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
10X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close Support Aircraft
5X B-5A Owl-1 Medium Range Stealth Bomber
10X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter

Air Wing Three aboard ASDS Owen Hawk
5X Eagle class AWACS
25X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
25X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
10X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close support aircraft
5X Penguin
10X MH-75 Falcon Class Attack Helicopter


2nd Regiment Marine Expeditionary Unit
50 T-72C Shark Class Amphibious MBTs
100 T-75A Wolf Class Armored Attack Vehicles
100 (covert weapon system no id-tag found) ?????
2 10 Marine Spec ops teams and material
16 Light Combat Squads (160 marines)
4 Heavy Combat Squads (40 marines)
2 Indirect Fire Teams (14 marines)


3nd Regiment Marine Expeditionary Unit
75 T-72C Shark Class Amphibious MBTs
150 T-75A Wolf Class Armored Attack Vehicles
2 10 Marine Spec ops teams and material
16 Light Combat Squads (160 marines)
4 Heavy Combat Squads (40 marines)
2 Indirect Fire Teams (14 marines)

2nd Battalion Combat Engineers
250-Engineers armed with Small Arms
50- Armored Bulldozers


Third Fleet
Four Indomitable class Super-carriers
Twelve Shield class missile defense and EW ships
Two Oblivion class Dreadnoughts
Ten Sword class Heavy Battle cruisers
Five Pike Class Destroyers
Twenty Strike class missile attack boats
Ten Cloak class SSNs
Thirty Beaver class military transports
Ten Digger class Engineer Transports
Fifty Kilaue class Resupply ships


Naval Air wings
Air wing one aboard ASDS Nike
7X Eagle class AWACS
40X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
40X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
20X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close support aircraft
10X Hercules medium range air-air refueling planes
10X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter


Air wing Two aboard ASDS Knight
7X Eagle class AWACS
40X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
40X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
20X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close support aircraft
10X B-5B Owl-2 Long Range Stealth Bomber
10X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter


Air wing Three aboard ASDS Rain
7X Eagle class AWACS
40X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
40X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
20X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close support aircraft
20X Penguin Class Troop Transport Helicopters
10X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter


Air wing Four aboard ASDS Victory
7X Eagle class AWACS
40X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
40X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
20X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close support aircraft
20X MH-75 Falcon Class Attack Helicopter
10X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter

4th Regiment Heavy Armored Marine Invasion Unit
275 T-72C Shark Class Amphibious MBTs
350 T-75A Wolf Class Armored Attack Vehicles
5 10 Marine Spec ops teams and material
48 Light Combat Squads (480 marines)
12 Heavy Combat Squads (120 marines)
6 Indirect Fire Teams (42 marines)


1st Regiment Combat Engineers
500 engineers
50 tanks
50 Armored Bulldozers
Material


Hospital Ships
15- Relief Class hospital ships

The Northern Baltic

The ASD
Eighth Fleet Heavy stealth and EMCON in effect
Four War-Sprite class Super-carriers
Eight Phalanxes class Missile interception and EW craft
One Shark class Super-Dreadnought
Ten Shadow Class Light Battle Cruisers
Fifteen Night Class Heavy Cruisers
One Barracuda Class Spec for Carrier
Thirty Cloak class SSNs
Ten Omurai class SSGNs


Naval Air wings

Air wing one aboard ASDS Tiger Shark
7X Goshawk AWACS
50X F-47A Nyctalus-1 Stealth Strike Fighter
50X F-47B Nyctalus-3 Stealth Interceptor
10X B-8A Elf Owl Short Range Stealth Bomber
10X MH-84 Nighthawk Multi role Stealth Helicopter

Air wing Two aboard ASDS Hunt
7X Goshawk AWACS
50X F-47A Nyctalus-1 Stealth Strike Fighter
50X F-47B Nyctalus-3 Stealth Interceptor
10X B-8B Elf Owl Medium Range Stealth Bomber
10X MH-84 Nighthawk Multi role Stealth Helicopter


Air wing Three aboard ASDS Triton
7X Goshawk AWACS
50X F-47A Nyctalus-1 Stealth Strike Fighter
50X F-47B Nyctalus-3 Stealth Interceptor
10X B-8C Elf Owl Long Range Stealth Bomber
10X MH-84 Nighthawk Multi role Stealth Helicopter


Air wing Four aboard ASDS Warrior
7X Eagle class AWACS
40X F-43A Hawk-1 Strike fighters
40X F-43B Hawk-3 Hypersonic interceptors
20X F-43C Hawk-2 STOVL Close support aircraft
20X MH-75 Falcon Class Attack Helicopter
10X MH-72 Osprey ASW Helicopter


Air wing and Special Forces Marines Aboard the ASDS Stix
40X MH-81 Athene Stealth Gunships
20X MH-22 Scandiacus Transport Helicopters
20X f-49 Diaemus Stealth STOVL Close in support Planes
20X Marines Special Operations Platoons (200 marines)

so, due to summer is coming up, and after finals week i wont be on as much, and the fact that this RP is mostly OOC and hypocrisy under the "You suck as an RPer" catergory...

I say we just get a damn peace treaty...and end this....

this war is more annoying then anything else anymore.

Dawoad please get rid of some of the spaces or blank lines between your forces and the next please in your above humongous post. It gives me a headache to look at it.!!!!!!

DELETE OCC POSTS ON THE IC THREAD AND TRANSFER THEM HERE PLEASE PEOPLE!

Burlovia posts: #466 page 32,
Leocardia posts: #444, #447 on page 30 #457 on page 31, #479 page 32, #481, #483, #485, #487, #488 all on page 33
Greal posts: #403 on page 27,#424 on page 29, #456, and #458 page 31 #480 page 32, #482, #484, #486, #489,all on page 33
Mokastana posts: #490 on page 33
Thon: deleting once TAP responds post #438 on page 30
Dawoad posts: #440, #443, #449 on page 30

I don't mean to be "thread police" or anything its just that it's annoying, will make the thread shorter and war easier to read and look back to clear up things. I feel about ending this thread soon, but I'm not going to downfall in RP skill, rules, quality, or sportsmanship to do or advance that. (that is not an accusation, hint, or implication by any means towards anyone except myself)

plus locations of where fleets are important too, for instance if Greals fleet is on the eastern coast of TAP then he cant roleplay attacking Leocardia's, mine, or Burlovias fleet since they are on the west coast. (that was just an example)




I roleplayed my UAVs kamakazeeing into them could as top priority targets aside from your aircraft carrier or carriers. If you read back you can find so. please then go back and edit that your CWIS whether they be goalkeepers phalanxes or what not to have taken all the hundreds of UAVs specifically kamikazeeing into those less than 10 selected ship targets out on ballistic approachs towards them then please.

since a few human command and control aircraft flew with the UAV fleet as was posted they directed more and more UAVs that weren't shot down yet and/or at all and/or had spent all their munitions to kamikazze into their selected priority targets which were those exactly as I wrote, or take the missiles for and instead of them



I think I will roleplay that you hit them all, lol You wasted your missiles since they were going to be destroyed anyway, now your doing it for me, and the cost of expensive limited supply missiles I believe. but not until...TAP posts again and if you would be so kind as to tell me where your two other fleets are located in the grand theater of things please.

this is my update

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj121/thonnation/warmap43.jpg

please guys paint is so easy, albeit crude and childish looking at times it gets the job done.

locations please. doing so is simple easy and quick

by the way what I put on the map about the other nations is only my interpretation of their posts, their word is the real deal, so don't lash out at me that please.

I used the map's scale for reality check. I suggest ya'll do the same too please.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj121/thonnation/552px-The_American_Privateer_Map2.jpg
that is one old post of where my forces where that I have previously posted on page 27.....they've changed/moved/maneuvered/ withdrew or were destroyed since then. since then.

Please be clear as to where each of our respective fleets are please, it is paramount as most communication, understanding and clarity is.

Hey Burlovia!



It can't be broken if people don't agree to it. It has to be agreed upon by all sides otherwise it is never there in the first place.
One side calling for one does not dictate that the other side comply or that it is in effect and can be broken.

I've never agreed to one, and neither have a few others yet.
but I am looking to committing to one after the Barbary Islands deal is done and TAP posts again.

really? sorry must have missed that some how . . . .btw r those the same atvs that attacked the non-existant TAPian ships in the tortuga sea? lol tried to edit the post as much as possible otherwise ya . . . lol My second and third fleets are north by north northeast of the barbery islands(west by north west of quierva)

Greal, I fired 450 Khans BEFORE you fired 3,000 missiles at me. Now RP it or else this wouldn't get anywhere.

Greal, I fired 450 Khans BEFORE you fired 3,000 missiles at me. Now RP it or else this wouldn't get anywhere.

I did RP it. Now respond. Assume I fired two thousand instead

so pretty much...


I launch my missiles at Leo....

Leo launched immediately at Greal....

a little later Leo launches missiles and relation attacks at me

Greal immediately launches at leo.....

Leo Gets hit by Mokan attack....

Greal gets hit by leo attack


Judging by the time it takes my missiles to get from my fleet to Leo, I think Greal could of got off the full shot before Leo's missiles hit....

aka attack before getting hit...since BOTH Mokan to Leo and Greal to Leo is about 500Km...would be ok, according to Leocardia's "better" RP skills...

OOC:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj121/thonnation/flletloc.jpg

Is this where everyone is and is going at least roughly?

note: size of colored fleet area do not depict size of forces or fleets

please do say your locations.

(preferably ones that don't make in the middle of things lol in the hottest area_

NOTE: will auto delete in a few hours because this is an OOC post in IC thread, AS SHOULD YALL'S OOC POST ABOVE!


Thanks that map helps a lot, but we are actually closer to the Greal fleet, if not right next to it. so pretty much the east side since our goal has to get in as many kills on that fleet as we could,


Btw Leo what do you have still floating?

The new map sounds right.
Wheres Mokstana?

top right

OOC:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj121/thonnation/flletloc.jpg

Is this where everyone is and is going at least roughly?

note: size of colored fleet area do not depict size of forces or fleets

please do say your locations.

(preferably ones that don't make in the middle of things lol in the hottest area_

NOTE: will auto delete in a few hours because this is an OOC post in IC thread, AS SHOULD YALL'S OOC POST ABOVE!


Thanks that map helps a lot, but we are actually closer to the Greal fleet, if not right next to it. so pretty much the east side since our goal has to get in as many kills on that fleet as we could,


Btw Leo what do you have still floating?

The Juki superdreadnaught, 14 Invincible class carriers, 9 Guangzhou Class Destroyers, 9 Houxin Class, 13 Houbei Class, and like 12 Jin class submarines.

I have a couple amphibious crafts on TAP's shroes.

I wish for once we could have a nice gun bombardment instead of this missile war.

Leo, what are your losses from my attack?

OK then i will, but since my missiles have a range of over 3,000km it would be possible..

as for a better location, I admit, the last explanation is FUBAR, but we have been mainly engaging Leocardia's fleet the whole time. I RP my mainland being to the west, a two day's journey from TAP. So we would have approached from there, at 2,000km out we fired missiles off at Leocardia and began attacks with them, leaf started attacking me and i do not know where he is at,

So assuming that Leo is where you have him, i would probably be west of him....

and therefore right in the middle of the hellfire...

damn...

personally I am pretty sure my fleet would maintain at least 500km from the enemy fleets, and we did have an order to flee towards the ocean, so we are probably 300km to west...but thank you for the map, it does clear up a lot of things.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj121/thonnation/missilezonmap.jpg

updated map, please make your own as well, so I don't have to guess for other nations navy that aren't mine, and still delete those OOC post above please people

I wish for once we could have a nice gun bombardment instead of this missile war.

Leo, what are your losses from my attack?

Leocardia, what are your losses?

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj121/thonnation/missilezonmap.jpg

updated map, please make your own as well, so I don't have to guess for other nations navy that aren't mine, and still delete those OOC post above please people

It looks good where my fleets are concerned gj!

In a short engagement with the Doomani fleet I think I lost 40% of my fleet. Congrats Moka for inflicting the greatest single loss on the Leafanistani Navy at one point.

Anyone remember where TAP is? If its Indian Ocean or Pacific Ocean I can easily move the Saharistani 12th Fleet to cover it.

If its Atlantic-ish I'll move the Rovonian 11th Fleet which is at full force.

If its imaginary continent I guess my regular EAST NAVCOM can work.

i thought it was Atlantic, cuz that is the fleet I sent to them..


also, where the hell is TAP? My fleet could really use some assistance!!!!


i will get back to the attacks later...as of now though we are still retreating into the ocean,

i thought it was Atlantic, cuz that is the fleet I sent to them..


also, where the hell is TAP? My fleet could really use some assistance!!!!


i will get back to the attacks later...as of now though we are still retreating into the ocean,

You're not getting away from me. I will send any remnants after you for revenge.

This entire war is built on it. I will throw jets at you and I'm still bombarding you from space to smash you.

Also to answer a few other questions, in a secret plan we're moving up the coastline, and we stay far away from the coast. But thanks to NS all of us have missiles that have the range to strike each other.

Dawoad: My fleet is still under radar and sonar jamming (yeah. I'm jamming my own radar and sonar as well). I posted it a few pages back and I never ordered them to stop and, though I probably should have restated it, just to be sure, I didn't and I apologize but yeah.

You're not getting away from me. I will send any remnants after you for revenge.

This entire war is built on it. I will throw jets at you and I'm still bombarding you from space to smash you.

Also to answer a few other questions, in a secret plan we're moving up the coastline, and we stay far away from the coast. But thanks to NS all of us have missiles that have the range to strike each other.

Leafanistan, your fleet is dangerously close to mine........:D

Leafanistan, your fleet is dangerously close to mine........:D

Oh fine, wanna have a tiff about it. Though how bad are the Mokan casualties that you aren't afraid of a low strength Leafanistani Fleet. I still haven't expended all my armaments. Especially if we're dangerously close.

12th Fleet 2nd Expeditionary Force

Under command of Vice Admiral Marcus Leone:

2x Mishkin class Omnirole Superdreadnoughts
-2x GLI-76 Jump Jets
-2x MQ-8B Fire Scouts
4x Gerald R. Ford class Supercarriers
-75 Lu-12 Canary Multirole
-12 S-100 DualSeaHawks
-5 MQ-8B Fire Scouts
25x Svarog class Arsenal Ships
-1x Mi-14
48x Robert A. Heinlein class Guided Missile Destroyers
-2x S-100 DualSeaHawks
-1x MQ-8B Fire Scouts
50x La Fayette class Frigates
-1x MQ-8B Fire Scout
35x K130 Braunschweig class Corvettes
50x Seawolf class Submarines
32x Khan Typhoons class Submarines

Dawoad: My fleet is still under radar and sonar jamming (yeah. I'm jamming my own radar and sonar as well). I posted it a few pages back and I never ordered them to stop and, though I probably should have restated it, just to be sure, I didn't and I apologize but yeah.

fine but how do you know where my fleet is. Also by now my fleets would compensated and there is no way u could steamed straight over my subs without me knowing it answer these and I'll edit my post to match

fine but how do you know where my fleet is. Also by now my fleets would compensated and there is no way u could steamed straight over my subs without me knowing it answer these and I'll edit my post to match

To the first question: satellites. That would present the problem that I can only guess where your fleet is and fire missiles in that general direction, making them less accurate.

To the second question: Your subs would probably surface once they realize that they have no sonar. However, without visual sighting, there is absolutely no way your subs could detect me, but there is also no way I could detect your subs (except by visual sighting).

OOC: So I have the rest of the Atlantic Fleet on route to escort the beaten one up home, and TAP is nowhere to be seen....

i will give him a few more days till I RP my boys being abandoned and taking a huge flight of missiles in the ass....

OOC: If TAP doesn't show up for three more days then I'm calling the IC thread dead.

pretty much

Dawoad: My fleet is still under radar and sonar jamming (yeah. I'm jamming my own radar and sonar as well). I posted it a few pages back and I never ordered them to stop and, though I probably should have restated it, just to be sure, I didn't and I apologize but yeah.

To the first question: satellites. That would present the problem that I can only guess where your fleet is and fire missiles in that general direction, making them less accurate.

To the second question: Your subs would probably surface once they realize that they have no sonar. However, without visual sighting, there is absolutely no way your subs could detect me, but there is also no way I could detect your subs (except by visual sighting).

ok I'll edit but your targeting info is gonna be for shit if ur trying to guide everything in on visual sattelite alone

ok I'll edit but your targeting info is gonna be for shit if ur trying to guide everything in on visual sattelite alone

Fuel Air or Cluster Munitions on Inertial Guidance and GPS to explode in between your fleet to make it a gunfight.

Anywho I suspect TAP may be hiding due to the fortitude of our offensive and the fact his precious land was touched. But I'm not that much of a pessimist, Finals have started and ended for my school and many people are going through a week of finals or the final sorta 'push' for finals.

We can declare this officially dead after June when finals really does end. Of course if I'm right it's rather shitty of him to not at least tell us or to officially put it on pause.

If he did run away until we declare this dead and he does come back, we have to declare this live or ignore. And I was wondering how many of you are in agreement.

As a sidenote the last time he did anything it was 13 days ago.

I go to the same college as he does and our finals are over. I know cause one I go there too and two I have 21 credit hours which is way more than he does so if mine are over his must be too. I'll call him on his phone and ask him about it and get back to y'all.

If not I'll roleplay I nuked his fleet and destroyed his like 80 aircraft carrier battlegroups lol.

I go to the same college as he does and our finals are over. I know cause one I go there too and two I have 21 credit hours which is way more than he does so if mine are over his must be too. I'll call him on his phone and ask him about it and get back to y'all.

If not I'll roleplay I nuked his fleet and destroyed his like 80 aircraft carrier battlegroups lol.

That'd be the greatest godmode I've ever heard of.

But thanks a lot The Thon. He can't just leave us hangin'!

ok I'll edit but your targeting info is gonna be for shit if ur trying to guide everything in on visual sattelite alone

Yep.

Yep.

ok ill edit soon but I wanna wait to see if taps comin back first

ok ill edit soon but I wanna wait to see if taps comin back first

Wait for The Thon, then we'll talk.

He won't answer his cell phone at all and his mailbox is full and he is out of college and out of here by now back at his home in Kansas City by now. Of course he never answered his phone before either, I always had to get a hold of him through his roommate by calling his roommate's cellphone and telling him to hand it to him lol. Yep since he is not answering nor calling me back. It is safe to say this thread is dead and TAP is not coming back. This Nationstates is his life so if he had not posted since then he is choosing not to do so. So roleplay that we won the day against his country because his people lost the will to fight, and since his pillar was taken out by Leafanistan he has few, little, or no commanders or government to fight either (well their's the PS Roosevelt out there somewhere as well though). So any attempts to do a regime change to TAP are achievable and legit now lol. Which shouldnt be a problem since hes roleplayed TAP as being mostly isolationist anyways.

He won't answer his cell phone at all and his mailbox is full and he is out of college and out of here by now back at his home in Kansas City by now. Of course he never answered his phone before either, I always had to get a hold of him through his roommate by calling his roommate's cellphone and telling him to hand it to him lol. Yep since he is not answering nor calling me back. It is safe to say this thread is dead and TAP is not coming back. This Nationstates is his life so if he had not posted since then he is choosing not to do so. So roleplay that we won the day against his country because his people lost the will to fight, and since his pillar was taken out by Leafanistan he has few, little, or no commanders or government to fight either (well their's the PS Roosevelt out there somewhere as well though). So any attempts to do a regime change to TAP are achievable and legit now lol. Which shouldnt be a problem since hes roleplayed TAP as being mostly isolationist anyways.

I say give him a week to respond to this. Also set the autodelete on your last post to one week.

sounds good to me ne1 mind if I rp my fleets getting the hell out of dodge asap?

Wait for The Thon, then we'll talk.

ok what r we gonna do about the none TAPian defenders

sounds good to me ne1 mind if I rp my fleets getting the hell out of dodge asap?

That depends, you have to tell us formally that you are exiting the conflict and surrender, or else your ships will be under fire while escaping by my incoming fleet.

ok what r we gonna do about the none TAPian defenders

We RP just our naval operations and give TAP a week, after that we declare that TAP's regime has changed thanks to my strike on the Pillar and it is back to being isolationist and blah blah blah the Allies win the day.

That depends, you have to tell us formally that you are exiting the conflict and surrender, or else your ships will be under fire while escaping by my incoming fleet.



We RP just our naval operations and give TAP a week, after that we declare that TAP's regime has changed thanks to my strike on the Pillar and it is back to being isolationist and blah blah blah the Allies win the day.
1)understood
2) thats a bit of a problem for me . . . . .Thon sent UAVs over Tapian forces to get to mr . . . .in theory Tapian air dfences would take some down so I can't respond till he does which means I can't use one of my fleets LMAO o well I'll just work round it for now

and in the thread they all went down anyway, after expending their bombs missiles and such. They then kamikazeed into their targets. cause we all know one missile alone rarely just by its lone self takes out a ship completely. Plus with it attacking the TAP airfields if it crashed as well say into the airport tower or the runway as well it's more to clean up and clear which takes more time therefore putting some of his air force off line temporally. And the The UAVS can kamikazee into the ships with there radar jamming on till the very end to disrupt the guidance systems of CIWSs. They mainly attacked what TAP targets they could but as for you only your coil gun longswords (ships that have coil guns) which I think were only 3 targets or maybe 6, plus any aircraft carriers were targeted since they were the greatest threat. Lets just say he was taken by surprise by my stealth UAV attack which was the whole point. Kinda like the Japanese attack on pearl harbor. He doesn't like to think it was or is possible or happened in the thread so he denies it. The US and Hawaii would like to do the same thing but they can't and it doesn't change the fact pearl harbor still happened. Same applys for my surprise attack. I don't care if he calls it godmodding. It wouldn't happen if he realistically Roleplays his losses correctly but since he avoids things that hurt him when he is wrong that is a consequence.

So bottom line..all my UAVs and manned control UAV aircraft died and were lost. But his northern and Tortuga sea's airfields, navy refueling depots, shipyards, ports, harbors, coast guard ships, navy bases, ammunition centers/depots factories, storage yards, airport towers, runways and key major intersection parts of Super highways were destroyed. At at when he could react in time, well the UAVS already spent their ordinance and rather than ran exposing them to missile fire.and right before getting hit from missiles that somehow locked onto their stealth signatures they crashed into other targets rather than ran, exposing them to missile fire. Some of the enemy missiles that locked on to the UAVs when they were kamikaeeing just ran into the dead aircraft or UAV's target therefore escalating the damage to TAP and the UAVs' targets only with the TAP ordinance helping them do it as well lol.

That was the whole ingenious of my strategy and plan in the first place. I'm not going to let his bad sportsmanship, irresponsibility and avoidance and ignore deprive me of it :)

my little left of my small fleet is staying with the safety of Burlovia's and Northen Baltics' fleets for the rest of the time unless they can peacefully evacuate Barbary Islands and Thon Commonwealth Citizens on the mainland and go home.

PSDELETE THOSE OOC POSTS ON THE MAIN IC THREAD!!!!!

and in the thread they all went down anyway, after expending their bombs missiles and such. They then kamikazeed into their targets. cause we all know one missile alone rarely just by its lone self takes out a ship completely. Plus with it attacking the TAP airfields if it crashed as well say into the airport tower or the runway as well it's more to clean up and clear which takes more time therefore putting some of his air force off line temporally. And the The UAVS can kamikazee into the ships with there radar jamming on till the very end to disrupt the guidance systems of CIWSs. They mainly attacked what TAP targets they could but as for you only your coil gun longswords (ships that have coil guns) which I think were only 3 targets or maybe 6, plus any aircraft carriers were targeted since they were the greatest threat. Lets just say he was taken by surprise by my stealth UAV attack which was the whole point. Kinda like the Japanese attack on pearl harbor. He doesn't like to think it was or is possible or happened in the thread so he denies it. The US and Hawaii would like to do the same thing but they can't and it doesn't change the fact pearl harbor still happened. Same applys for my surprise attack. I don't care if he calls it godmodding. It wouldn't happen if he realistically Roleplays his losses correctly but since he avoids things that hurt him when he is wrong that is a consequence.

So bottom line..all my UAVs and manned control UAV aircraft died and were lost. But his northern and Tortuga sea's airfields, navy refueling depots, shipyards, ports, harbors, coast guard ships, navy bases, ammunition centers/depots factories, storage yards, airport towers, runways and key major intersection parts of Super highways were destroyed. At at when he could react in time, well the UAVS already spent their ordinance and rather than ran exposing them to missile fire.and right before getting hit from missiles that somehow locked onto their stealth signatures they crashed into other targets rather than ran, exposing them to missile fire. Some of the enemy missiles that locked on to the UAVs when they were kamikaeeing just ran into the dead aircraft or UAV's target therefore escalating the damage to TAP and the UAVs' targets only with the TAP ordinance helping them do it as well lol.

That was the whole ingenious of my strategy and plan in the first place. I'm not going to let his bad sportsmanship, irresponsibility and avoidance and ignore deprive me of it :)

my little left of my small fleet is staying with the safety of Burlovia's and Northen Baltics' fleets for the rest of the time unless they can peacefully evacuate Barbary Islands and Thon Commonwealth Citizens on the mainland and go home.

PSDELETE THOSE OOC POSTS ON THE MAIN IC THREAD!!!!!

lol ok um can u give me any idea on the number of UAVs targeted soely towards my ships? just so I can write some kind of realistic post?

so since he isn't coming back are we just going to assume that the nation fell to anarchy?

and if so, should we form a peace treaty (no backstabbing this time) to just end this whole mess?

I agree. I need this cleared up, since I'm being invaded and I need to focus on one front.

well I've cleared my part I do believe, all with success too might I add, albeit at a terrible cost however to my navy. But I've pulled out and am no longer involved. you can check my last post in the main thread, sorry if it seems like or is godmoding I don't mean to do that and it sucks but hey it fits into the story line, isn't too drastic only effects the TAP, no one else..except maybe his puppets, is realistic, and ends on peaceful terms with all of the TAP's allies that weren't his puppets.

Besides I wasn't going to let him get away with my people in concentration camps forever because he's a sore loser and and doesn't respond because of bad sportsmanship. If it took that one post of minuscule godmoding to get my people back then so be it, had to withdraw and get out of the thread realistically somehow.

been fun though guys, most of you (except the dumb people who only made one or two posts and maybe Colesteam who just wasn't involved long enough) really greatly made this thread pretty cool, thankyou, y'all have taught me a lot, and made my first thread a real experience. See ya'll around Nationstates I guess. And as for TAP's allies, hopefully on good terms though despite this war lol.

been fun, and God Bless.