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The OOC thread for A War of Vengeance (Remember the Akna) is here.

Anyway, Burlovia, Remember the Akna is a slogan used because the Akna was the Kirov Class that The American Privateer godrodded.

Okay, right now, I plan on having the monsoons arrive sometime around page 10. Any opposition to that?

Nope. None from me.

You attached a space elevator to a potential military target? Wow. I did not see that coming.

You attached a space elevator to a potential military target? Wow. I did not see that coming.

Well, it is a very cheap way of getting materials too and from the base. All seven of my star ports are connected to Space Elevators. I still have Orbital Shuttles, but they are used for emergency resupply due to the nature of the elevators and the fact that it takes almost a week to get supplies up there.

Just so no one is shocked by it, the clouds are gonna start forming and gathering come Page 5. I was gonna wait until 15 to even start the storms, but with Hades Supervolcano having erupted, then the monsoons are gonna come sooner than previously expected.

Hey, Leafanistan, mind if I do some Terrorist Role-Playing in your nation? Seeing as you are the primary Belligerent against my primary, it would make sense that the Xenophobic puppet that I have raise Cain in The American Privateer from time to time would target you.

Okay, here is what I am thinking for the storms that will arrive come Page Ten.

Starting with my first post on Page Five, I am gonna have storm clouds begin to gather and dump rain across the nation. Gonna RP people shutting things off, locking and securing windows across the nation, pulling down storm shutters, etc.

Around Page Seven, I am going to role play the Monsoon forming to the East and South. Orleans is designed to handle the storms because that is where I have them come through first.

Page Ten, I am going to have them slam into the Eastern coast. Lots of mud and rain will fall, storm surges will arrise, and it will generally get nasty. Now, my walls will get a real workout, as they are already built to protect against the Storm Surges. However, I am also going to make it so that they form to the west as well, as Acidic rain full of Sulphur and Chlorine Based rain falls along that coast, corroding Air-Defense Systems and leaving that area open to attack.

Page Eleven (Or later depending on how much fighting actually takes place during the monsoons) I will RP its leaving, and would suggest invading then, while we try to recover from the storms and repair the wall from the storm damages, because this is gonna be an unusually damaging storm...

Hey, congrats, one of you guys just surpassed Hitler with that little stunt over New Tortuga. Hope your happy with having killed 1 Billion people...

I just sent duds against the space elevator. I didn't mean for it to explode.

I just sent duds against the space elevator. I didn't mean for it to explode.

It doesn't have to. The sheer mass of the attack was enough to destabilize the orbit. Remember, Space Stations are fragile in MT and PMT.

:cool:

The Commonwealth of the Thon would like to join in the conflict if there is no opposition. I'm in the same region "Empire of The Five States" with The Republic of The American Privateer and The Incorporated States of Nova Corporation but am not however allied with them. I know him in real life and was just about to establish my embassy there.

but its a good thing I didn't seeing what happened lol right Eric (American Privateer) otherwise my embassy and its people would of been destroyed by now and my money and life towards it wasted.

I'm currently neutral and just thinking of sending 3 naval battlegroups to the region as "neutral observers" to learn, see and witness more to gain experience on the world stage and dealing with more populous multi billion populated superpowers.

These Thon Commonwealth battlegroups will stay in international waters and a certain distance from other naval vessels but freely offer rescue to downed stranded and sinking vessels and any ejected pilots. All rescued will be cared for and held until either the conflict is over or the battlegroup goes back to port where it will provide free care and airfare back to their homes.

This all of course starting only on acknowledgment from y'all that I'm entering the fray neutrally if there is no objection.

Supreme Commander Jonathan Arrakis Thon
Thon Commonwealth lifeterm elected royal monarch and Megas Logothete

:cool:
http://nationstates.wikia.com/wiki/Thon_Nation

Dude, you don't need to ask permission like that, its an Out Of Character Thread. All you have to do is say that you are sending in observers.

Hey what was the idea of building a space elevator right on top of heads of 1 billion citizens? You were begging for it to come down on them :p

I didn't think anyone was stupid enough to target it. If a break happens, then there are failsafe methods to keep it from doing to much damage, but this wasn't a break, this was a massive and cascading failure. something I had not forseen.

This is to Nova:
What ever happened to the preparation of the ship? The launching? The moving? The nearing and passing of Northern Baltic territorial waters? The getting closer to the port and running into customs, which are outside of main ports?

This is to Nova:
What ever happened to the preparation of the ship? The launching? The moving? The nearing and passing of Northern Baltic territorial waters? The getting closer to the port and running into customs, which are outside of main ports?

Ill change it, but I launched the Liberty of the Seas earlier...

At the moment i Have forces in TAP u want me to take them out of theater or can i get in on this?

I am going to move up the clock on this, as the actions of The Northern Baltic has lead to a sort of uneasy cease-fire.

Just as an FYI, it's TAP'ian, not TAPien. I have seen that fairly often and just wanted to clarify.

sorry man ill edit and fix that btw what happened to those ballistic missiles u launched in retaliation for the space elevator attack

sorry man ill edit and fix that btw what happened to those ballistic missiles u launched in retaliation for the space elevator attack

No idea, still waiting for The Northern Baltic to respond to that. I have a massive number of MOAB warheads heading towards his city...

You know it really is profitable, beneficial and fun to be neutral, conniving, devious and manipulative.

I think I may create two others nation on nationstates to effectively be clearer in the the separate entities of the Tyr order and Merc Island forces. I'm currently role playing both of them separately than The Thon Commonwealth.

I thinks thats pretty cool don't you? You know in big wars there's always that one guy...

the guy or nation that's neutral, stuck in the middle, or just plain devious like the french you know what I'm saying?

Anyway I'm in this war kinda like on the diplomatic side of things looking for a diplomatic solution, but in reality just wanting it to actually escalate lol.

A WWIII version of the beaches of Normandy invading your shore TAP? given all the aircraft carriers I actually think working up to the unrivaled 10000 airplane invasion that happened in WWII can happen here.

on another note...wholly crap guys thats a hell lot of ships.
DaWoad we defiantly have to team up being the small nations we are against these multi billion populated superpowers.
The more they boast and roleplay the less I feel I can actually accomplish anything roleplaying my mercenaries or contributing much as the Thon.
My power mostly just rests in detailed descriptions at wikistates under "Thon Nation" and "Military of the Thon"

And what do you mean you already have forces in the TAP? what forces, where? are you actually, already, unofficially or officially allied with TAP or not?
just like to know for sure please.

You know it really is profitable, beneficial and fun to be neutral, conniving, devious and manipulative.

I think I may create two others nation on nationstates to effectively be clearer in the the separate entities of the Tyr order and Merc Island forces. I'm currently role playing both of them separately than The Thon Commonwealth.

I thinks thats pretty cool don't you? You know in big wars there's always that one guy...

the guy or nation that's neutral, stuck in the middle, or just plain devious like the french you know what I'm saying?

Anyway I'm in this war kinda like on the diplomatic side of things looking for a diplomatic solution, but in reality just wanting it to actually escalate lol.

A WWIII version of the beaches of Normandy invading your shore TAP? given all the aircraft carriers I actually think working up to the unrivaled 10000 airplane invasion that happened in WWII can happen here.

on another note...wholly crap guys thats a hell lot of ships.
DaWoad we defiantly have to team up being the small nations we are against these multi billion populated superpowers.
The more they boast and roleplay the less I feel I can actually accomplish anything roleplaying my mercenaries or contributing much as the Thon.
My power mostly just rests in detailed descriptions at wikistates under "Thon Nation" and "Military of the Thon"

And what do you mean you already have forces in the TAP? what forces, where? are you actually, already, unofficially or officially allied with TAP or not?
just like to know for sure please.

The possibility of an invasion is at the top of my mind right now. Especially following the arrival and passing of he storms.

As for an airborne Invasion, I have WAY too many fighters on standby and Spyder Anti-Air Systems near the beaches for that too work. They would have to fly over or around the erupting volcanoes along the East Coast of TAP to invade.

OOC: As a mercenary unit, you should try to have more tact about how you respond to offers of employment. You sent people to our Nation, without invite, and we responded by granting them official liscence to act on behalf of our nation.

I know that but I already have my own agenda and roleplaying schemtaic laid out, plus, hey it's their nature, their in it for the money, and only profit, they cant profit if there dead, and you communique was given while they were in the midst of your enemy fleets which vastly outnumber the mercenaries at impossible odds. And politicians just generally tend to know less of the mercenaries mind than militray men do, same as to what they want or would go for and how to best use them. The mercenaries are not cannon fodder.
They tend to like more specific hirings of tasks, like how much money per enemy vessel? per military escort, ship sunk, how much extra byond the remibursemnt of the losses. The mercanaries are more inclined to do such suicidal tasks as taking on the enemy navy, if say, they sink an enemy aircraft carrier they get paid by you what it cost the enemy to build that aircrfat carrier just sunk, which is I say a hell of alot of money.

otherwise its a two sided war.

1. they have dominace/superiority of the sea
2. you have dominace/sueriority of land

and well the mercs have no choice but to be in the sea so they are unenclined to akiwiest your request. (lol the line from movie Pirates of the Caribean)---p.s. - how the hell do you spell "akiwiest" is it even a word?

plus there's the third side of the war-space...which is so far undecided

I know that but I already have my own agenda and roleplaying schemtaic laid out, plus, hey it's their nature, their in it for the money, and only profit, they cant profit if there dead, and you communique was given while they were in the midst of your enemy fleets which vastly outnumber the mercenaries at impossible odds. And politicians just generally tend to know less of the mercenaries mind than militray men do, same as to what they want or would go for and how to best use them. The mercenaries are not cannon fodder.
They tend to like more specific hirings of tasks, like how much money per enemy vessel? per military escort, ship sunk, how much extra byond the remibursemnt of the losses. The mercanaries are more inclined to do such suicidal tasks as taking on the enemy navy, if say, they sink an enemy aircraft carrier they get paid by you what it cost the enemy to build that aircrfat carrier just sunk, which is I say a hell of alot of money.

otherwise its a two sided war.

1. they have dominace/superiority of the sea
2. you have dominace/sueriority of land

and well the mercs have no choice but to be in the sea so they are unenclined to akiwiest your request. (lol the line from movie Pirates of the Caribean)---p.s. - how the hell do you spell "akiwiest" is it even a word?

plus there's the third side of the war-space...which is so far undecided

The other fleet may be bigger, but I wouldn't ask someone to do something like that. I gave them the letter of Marque wih the hopes that they would go an invade the homelands of those nations currently in combat with me. The same thing I did for NOVA.

The granting of the Letter just means your hired, negotiations come later dude.

shoot first ask questions later? yeah the mercs like that but only when there plundering, seizing, stealing, commandeering, pillaging, or raiding a vessel not just sinking or damaging it, they like to be certain of there coin first and always.

and they reserve the right to be rude. lol

especially to politicians because they are the ones specifically that are the main threat to their existence, and insult to them particularly in the UN, international community, their countries trade, merchant marine, and such. other navies know what there up against and don't worry because there of like minds and less prone to fear, and dramatics.

being rude also appeals to certain factions they want, are leaning to, or being offered services for also. they are defiantly not afraid to insult or offend someone, they are far from insecure, as your roleplaying of Rebbecca showed to be in your response. a naval commander would of just shrugged it off or threw a stern warning or threat back, and taken no insult, he could care less what others think of him aside from his men but just instead what they could do, not think or say.

negotiations for money come later? there mercs dude they come first, what if another faction claimed higher payment per vessel of your navy? They have to know. Besides they even receive payment not to attack certain vessels, thats even better! you wont know who though, that is if its even true lol.

and having this flipfoppity but somewhat predictable because of greed faction in the scenario is kinda cool and adds to the drama and presents more options. And everybody likes more options. Options are the best thing one can have in any scenario aside from victory.

so your Rebbecca just roleplayed right into it man lol.
you got to admit I have a point though.

bottom line the mercs and others reserve a right to be rude. lol

shoot first ask questions later? yeah the mercs like that but only when there plundering, seizing, stealing, commandeering, pillaging, or raiding a vessel not just sinking or damaging it, they like to be certain of there coin first and always.

and they reserve the right to be rude. lol

especially to politicians because they are the ones specifically that are the main threat to their existence, and insult to them particularly in the UN, international community, their countries trade, merchant marine, and such. other navies know what there up against and don't worry because there of like minds and less prone to fear, and dramatics.

being rude also appeals to certain factions they want, are leaning to, or being offered services for also. they are defiantly not afraid to insult or offend someone, they are far from insecure, as your roleplaying of Rebbecca showed to be in your response. a naval commander would of just shrugged it off or threw a stern warning or threat back, and taken no insult, he could care less what others think of him aside from his men but just instead what they could do, not think or say.

negotiations for money come later? there mercs dude they come first, what if another faction claimed higher payment per vessel of your navy? They have to know. Besides they even receive payment not to attack certain vessels, thats even better! you wont know who though, that is if its even true lol.

and having this flipfoppity but somewhat predictable because of greed faction in the scenario is kinda cool and adds to the drama and presents more options. And everybody likes more options. Options are the best thing one can have in any scenario aside from victory.

so your Rebbecca just roleplayed right into it man lol.
you got to admit I have a point though.

bottom line the mercs and others reserve a right to be rude. lol

Trust me on this, calling Rebeca a puppet is a sore spot, sense the NOVA owned Tor News has been calling her Jack Ray's Puppet since she came to power.

As for the payment system, please understand this, before the Government can even discuss paying you, a Letter of Marque has to be granted to you to authorize you to conduct military actions. Thus granted, you are able to begin negotiations with our government for price. Though the way you are burning bridges here, you don't want to get paid...

You know it really is profitable, beneficial and fun to be neutral, conniving, devious and manipulative.

I think I may create two others nation on nationstates to effectively be clearer in the the separate entities of the Tyr order and Merc Island forces. I'm currently role playing both of them separately than The Thon Commonwealth.

I thinks thats pretty cool don't you? You know in big wars there's always that one guy...

the guy or nation that's neutral, stuck in the middle, or just plain devious like the french you know what I'm saying?

Anyway I'm in this war kinda like on the diplomatic side of things looking for a diplomatic solution, but in reality just wanting it to actually escalate lol.

A WWIII version of the beaches of Normandy invading your shore TAP? given all the aircraft carriers I actually think working up to the unrivaled 10000 airplane invasion that happened in WWII can happen here.

on another note...wholly crap guys thats a hell lot of ships.
DaWoad we defiantly have to team up being the small nations we are against these multi billion populated superpowers.
The more they boast and roleplay the less I feel I can actually accomplish anything roleplaying my mercenaries or contributing much as the Thon.
My power mostly just rests in detailed descriptions at wikistates under "Thon Nation" and "Military of the Thon"

And what do you mean you already have forces in the TAP? what forces, where? are you actually, already, unofficially or officially allied with TAP or not?
just like to know for sure please.

I agree completely that we should team up um maybe see what we can do more indirectly or as a tacticle reserve than as a part of the main battle . my "military presence in TAP" consist of one carrier fleet that I sent over as an escort to the hospital ships and the civilian medical and engineering personnel i sent to help. the point behind the fleet being I didn't want my ships being massacred in transit if the other nations involved decided that they wanted to deny aide to TAP

The other fleet may be bigger, but I wouldn't ask someone to do something like that. I gave them the letter of Marque wih the hopes that they would go an invade the homelands of those nations currently in combat with me. The same thing I did for NOVA.

The granting of the Letter just means your hired, negotiations come later dude.
Im behind you 100% in this war (and i mean that in any way . .. . .if u want i can stay neutral and offer you satellite info plus space and ABM help). unfortunately my nation is rather small . . . .I have one other carrier fleet I can offer up and I have a larger and extremely modern and well trained air force but still no where near the size of your. On the other hand my spec ops and marines are well trained and might be able to cause havoc behind enemy lines. Cyber war wise i can do some damage and and space fleet (while smaller) can at least help with the defense of your remaining assets in space.

Yeah I'm only neutral now to see how things go, especially with the launching of those missiles and what's happening in space. I want to take a side badly but just don't see my forces making any dent as of yet, so I'm thinking I'll just roleplay as Merc Island and Tyr order for now and have the Thon navy interfere or take a side based on treatment from factions to the Tyr order I reckon.

To be honest I lean more towards the soviet bloc, because the history of my countries creation is in large part due to US activity contributing towards a Pacific catastrophe, and NOVA terroristic tendencies, practices, methods, and plans appall me. though in a way I guess TAP, that your NOVA is your equivalent to my MERC forces in being a separate controllable role playing entity. While mine may be rude at times at least their not terroristic. I'm disappointed I can't create a neutral alliance third party with you Dawoad since your allegiance is clearly to him now. If I join ya'll though that would make it three people against three people I presume then, which would more even out the odds. let me get this straight its like this right?

Americans and allies:
-The American Privateer-primary defender leader-Rebeca St. James, president of The American Privateer..and others
-Nova Corp-leader-John Nova
-Dawoad-leader-Admiral Hawk in theater CIC

Soviets and allies:
-Leafanistan-leader-Senator Arthur Kent and Triumvirate Council-Rear Admiral Essex
-Burlovia-leader-High General Somonov
-The Northern Baltic-primary aggressor-leader-Mikkel Sigøynerblod
-Leocardia--leader-??? is he still in the game

Neutral and unaligned or wild card:
-Commonwealth of the Thon-Prōtomandatōr Scott, Thon Navy chief of staff and naval commander of the Thon battlegroups off the TAP
-Merc Island Mercenaries-unknown probably a collective like a trust, or individual ships captains for independent hire
-Tyr Order-leaders-3 members of the Tyr Round Council from Castle Ratis


Did I get this Right?
If it is I think I should join TAP to make it even, but then again I'm mostly in it for myself and the fun of the power and autonomy of being neutral and unaligned.

please actually do realize this is all indeed OOC and don't make it effect the main thread, I'm just typing out loud so to speak here.

Im behind you 100% in this war (and i mean that in any way . .. . .if u want i can stay neutral and offer you satellite info plus space and ABM help). unfortunately my nation is rather small . . . .I have one other carrier fleet I can offer up and I have a larger and extremely modern and well trained air force but still no where near the size of your. On the other hand my spec ops and marines are well trained and might be able to cause havoc behind enemy lines. Cyber war wise i can do some damage and and space fleet (while smaller) can at least help with the defense of your remaining assets in space.

Stay neutral for now, and keep sending information. And in exchange, we will be willing to sign a Defense Pact, Free Trade Agreement, and Technology Exchange Agreement once all this is done. It essentially means a whole bunch of free stuff. Plus, so long as you are in the Tortuga Sea, you are fine. No one can get through the Emergency Canal without controlling the locks, and the mouth of the sea is mined fairly heavily right now. If you want to send ground forces, send them to the locks to assist the Urban Brigades.

Yeah I'm only neutral now to see how things go, especially with the launching of those missiles and what's happening in space. I want to take a side badly but just don't see my forces making any dent as of yet, so I'm thinking I'll just roleplay as Merc Island and Tyr order for now and have the Thon navy interfere or take a side based on treatment from factions to the Tyr order I reckon.

To be honest I lean more towards the soviet bloc, because the history of my countries creation is in large part due to US activity contributing towards a Pacific catastrophe, and NOVA terroristic tendencies, practices,methods, and plans appall me. though in a way I guess TAP, that your NOVA is your equivalent to my MERC forces in being a separate controllable role playing entity. While mine may be rude at times at least their not terroristic. I'm disappointed I can't create a neutral alliance third party with you Dawoad since your allegiance is clearly to him now. If I join ya'll though that would make it three people against three people I presume then, which would more even out the odds. let me get this straight its like this right?

Americans and allies:
-The American Privateer-primary defender leader-Rebeca St. James, president of The American Privateer..and others
-Nova Corp-leader-John Nova
-Dawoad-leader-Admiral Hawk in theater CIC

Soviets and allies:
-Leafanistan-leader-Senator Arthur Kent and Triumvirate Council-Rear Admiral Essex
-Burlovia-leader-High General Somonov
-The Northern Baltic-primary aggressor-leader-Mikkel Sigøynerblod
L-eocardia--leader-??? is he still in the game

Neutral and unaligned or wild card:
-Commonwealth of the Thon-Prōtomandatōr Scott, Thon Navy chief of staff and naval commander of the Thon battlegroups off the TAP
-Merc Island Mercenaries-unknown probably a collective like a trust, or individual ships captains for independent hire
-Tyr Order-leaders-3 members of the Tyr Round Council from Castle Ratis


Did I get this Right?
If it is I think I should join TAP to make it even, but then again I'm mostly in it for myself and the fun of the power and autonomy of being neutral and unaligned.

please actually do realize this is all indeed OOC and don't make it effect the main thread, I'm just typing out loud so to speak here.

Looks right to me. Still waiting for responses to NOVA's incursions via sea to the Soviets and their allies.

k sounds good. if u need help or just wanna make the thread more interesting lol ill be in.

true I could do that which would maybe
-force there navies to be spread thin
-fight on multiple fronts
-stop buildup of enemy ships off your waters
-take away ships from your waters to protect their homeland or elswhere
-possibly leading to an opportunity of a decisive strike or attack on remaining naval forces if any hole or weakness, mistake or such of an opportunity presents itself as the odds might get temporally better.
-create a hole or diminished area of occupation or blockade of your country and/or ports/coasts/cities/portions of your country etc.

but in reality I just think increased effort of their aircraft carriers' aircraft compliments with inflight refueling would cover, make up and counter it therefore not achieving any of these things.

(sorry if you feel I just gave them the solution above lol)

however the mercs can be paid just to sit nearby other countries borders and do nothing, but in their presence there detract and distract their attention and forces from elsewhere. You willing to pay them to do that? lol


either way, if any faction attacks the mercenaries without them violating or attacking them, Many would think it would have some pretty negative implications on them if anyone did so. so it be best if no one attacks them unless they attack them, no preventive or preemptive strikes lol!

TAP, you should of sent me a TG when this whole thing started....btw can I assume your nation map is america?

TG me with what i have missed

TAP, you should of sent me a TG when this whole thing started....btw can I assume your nation map is america?

TG me with what i have missed

I did TG you, the moment the elevator fell and your ambassador was killed.

Nope, it is actually based off of India, there is a valley in India which, if not for Pakistan, would flood into a semi-shallow sea if India where not connected to Asia. If you click on my PMT Factbook link in my signature, it will take you there.

I can post an image here if you would like.

Also, as your ambassador died, we will be sending some engineers to give you a gift, the information you need to place Hydroponic Towers in your nation and thus lower your reliance on soil farms.

is that towards me about the farms? (I'm MT but switching into PMT)

anyways, I don't think I got that TG, oddly enough, so we will deploy Fleets to TAP, I take it you are in the Pacific? or Indian?

Can we begin to airlift forces to aide you or would the stop get in the way?

EDIT: my ambassador, but but, which one was he?

hey don't respond yet to Burlovias post please, until I post a response, I was going to roleplay that the kentarchos I just sent you in the submarine was going to apologize for the extreme measure of secrecy in getting there and that the Prōtomandatōr couldn't come personally and offer you critical information as testimony, pledge, tribute, gesture of friendship and such to you in hopes of a possible alliance.

and reveal to you about a few of the mercenaries schemes, as I was and am going to do as proved from the past quote I know have to bring up and recollect:

Further and better information, introductions and intent will be made upon his or her arrival.

(I know we can easily become allies and could've along time ago and any time I like but I like roleplaying it into the story hehe)

besides the bugger Burlovia is just trying to get another faction against you don't let em succeed...grrr

posting my already intended response shortly...grrr

although I could have the submarine blow up in a small tactical nuclear blast sinking your ship and blowing up the admiral and many others crippling you, since it is after all, right in the middle and bowels of your ship in that is in a-as I quote

"Roger that, your submarine shall be sent to the docking bay, where a collar shall be extended to the hatch of your vessel, and the Secretary of War shall be there to meet you."

Secretary of War Moseby, a sorta mousy man, stood by the hatch, waiting to meet with the representative of The Thon, and escort him up to Deck 12, and then to the meeting room.

docking bay which I could take him out too.

but I won't lol that was never my intention, and even if it was, Bulovia's post was too late, for I've already been paid by another faction! MUWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

next target Burlovia! MUWAHAHAHWA!

lol the drama...give me a few hours to make some posts I have a dang leaders meeting tonight that I'm in charge of as the XO I have to prepare for and go to. so people don't post or attack or that good stuff for a bit please. although when I come back if anything in space happened to happen while I am gone that would be cool to come back and read on

is that towards me about the farms? (I'm MT but switching into PMT)

anyways, I don't think I got that TG, oddly enough, so we will deploy Fleets to TAP, I take it you are in the Pacific? or Indian?

Can we begin to airlift forces to aide you or would the stop get in the way?

EDIT: my ambassador, but but, which one was he?

Miguel Churro, he was the one you sent to New Tortuga in the Embassy exchange.

Yeah, it is. Our way of apologizing for the loss of life among your people.

As for forces, wait until the Monsoon has passed, and then send people in.

We RP as being in the ocean, mainly just south east of Greal.

Hey, John, I thought we were friends buddy...

hehehe love the Roosevelt man. Great way to impress visitors lol. my ships bigger than urs is :).

Looks right to me. Still waiting for responses to NOVA's incursions via sea to the Soviets and their allies.

OOC: If you are going to move a massive submersible fleet into Leafanistani Waters you're going to have to pick a target first, and then avoid the giant navy that is now thirsting for blood. And I dragged most of my navy from the Western Coast along with a small part of the Colonial Navy.

My Coastal Guards are currently in overdrive. A few years ago I had a massive 'surprise' invasion and it tested my coast guard to its limit, but I managed to repulse it and negotiate a surrender.

hehehe love the Roosevelt man. Great way to impress visitors lol. my ships bigger than urs is :).

Yeah, figured the name was fitting if I named it after Teddy. But yeah, it is meant to be used as an emergency center of government in case of a situation just like this. This way, we could fit everyone needed to keep the government working should we be forced to leave the city.

Hence the use of the Freedom Ship as the basis of the Roosevelt.

OOC: If you are going to move a massive submersible fleet into Leafanistani Waters you're going to have to pick a target first, and then avoid the giant navy that is now thirsting for blood. And I dragged most of my navy from the Western Coast along with a small part of the Colonial Navy.

My Coastal Guards are currently in overdrive. A few years ago I had a massive 'surprise' invasion and it tested my coast guard to its limit, but I managed to repulse it and negotiate a surrender.

Okay, but the primary force against you is going to be the NS Sovereign of the Seas. What is your biggest port city? It would make the most sense for a cruise ship with 4,000 disguised warriors to arrive there to wreak havoc, and then call in the waiting fleet of small craft with WMD's afterwards.

Okay, but the primary force against you is going to be the NS Sovereign of the Seas. What is your biggest port city? It would make the most sense for a cruise ship with 4,000 disguised warriors to arrive there to wreak havoc, and then call in the waiting fleet of small craft with WMD's afterwards.

My largest Port City is the Transmetropolitan District, which is what happens when 10 or so large cities become so heavily urbanized that they merge into one giant city. It has 240 million or so inhabitants.

But just like any country, especially one at war, you're going to have to explain why your cruise ship is docking here with no previous warning or notice. Also WMDs are discouraged heavily as they will provoke a strategic response. Even if I don't know who did it I have an idea and this RP will come to a depressingly boring end as an absurd number of nuclear missiles streak toward the American Privateer.

I only allowed nukes in space because they are useful for covering the large amount of space.

true that im all for avoiding the nukes seeing as how i dont think my defenses would stand up real well to the number of nukes leafanistan could throw

Just as it surfaced the Thon submarine blew up in a nuclear explosion killing all the TAP government along with the massive ship.

.....muwahahahaw!!!!

JK I wouldn't do that on the main thread you crazy?

and we are friends, still even if I join there side, and don't you roleplay all that stuff about evacuating your ship it would of been too late already and the submarine left already after its emissary met your secretary of defense.

And its the mercenaries not the freaking Thon that might possibly be against you, so go back and edit it as a possibly military threat not a Thon betrayal or anything. or better yet delete them please. that is if Burlovia wasn't lying that is. You know how evil your enemy is. They killed over a billion of your people and now there trying to have you and others turn on each other. Don't let it happen dude. ah crud....now the annoying part of drama comes...lol

Trust me on this, though they are disguised now, that is only so they can get into your nation. Once inside, NOVA will follow their standard OP, put on uniforms showing who they are and running wild doing whatever they can. We have had to face it time and again within our own nation.

And hey, DaWoad, your factbook looks suspiciously familiar...

lol ya man . . . .im using urs as template over and ill change it more later lol

Well, for more information on what should be in a factbook, check out this link, best one on the subject

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8864533&postcount=5

The reasons why I posted that Thon´s message were:

1. You were helping TAP, and I thought stopping that was helpful.

2. The price you asked for those assassinations was absurd. One trillion Thon Signets was somewhere around 500 billion US dollars. I could assassinate almost any nation´s leader with a few million dollars, but those operations are highly risky. The reason why I´m not even attempting to assassinate TAP leaders is the possibility of a full-scale war after an assassination, which is the last thing I want.

The reasons why I posted that Thon´s message were:

1. You were helping TAP, and I thought stopping that was helpful.

2. The price you asked for those assassinations was absurd. One trillion Thon Signets was somewhere around 500 billion US dollars. I could assassinate almost any nation´s leader with a few million dollars, but those operations are highly risky. The reason why I´m not even attempting to assassinate TAP leaders is the possibility of a full-scale war after an assassination, which is the last thing I want.


I know I would've done something similar if I had a small budget, I only offered it cause I was indeed offered 500 billion for something by someone, but wouldn't take it, so thought of something else that was actually possibly but with the same or higher price. the capability of someone doing it was not the worth but the execution and success of someone else doing it and suffering the wrath or blame or loss for it instead of the them would be what was so appealing and worth the money though, which is why it was so high. That and have you looked at the pic for TAP president's ship? oh my god its ridiculous!

Either way, now you now made the mercs more prone to side with the Thon or your other allies and not you, since you proved untrustworthy in business deals and had no confidentially, so your on their black list now. bummer.

plus we now know what you want and don't want which can be dangerous intel to us ya know lol.

PS the mercs don't go to meetings much at all, they just either offer their services or wait for to be hired. Currently their just paid by the hour so to speak for what there doing now, while although not glamorous makes up for the cost of them operating there and covers their fuel spent and such.
:sniper:
the political dissension that resulted from it was funny though, but might've only just brought TAP to stronger resolve along with others and such things.
plus me now having agents pretending as members of their government which TAP is helping to facilitate lol. although I won't do anything along those lines other than keep them on a low profile as disguise that their not Thon people, even though I could though.

anyway lets get to the talks/conference already and the monsoon and buildup of forces for a D-Day type invasion if there's ever going to be one lol. That's the real juice of the thread now since the space war fun has seemed to end. That is, unless TAP allies space assets do something. seeing how more players are coming into the thread and into play

Well, for more information on what should be in a factbook, check out this link, best one on the subject

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8864533&postcount=5

thank you :)

de nada DaWoad. Keep watching mine as I keep updating it. It's gonna take a while...

hey TAP by the way, my emissary I sent you doesn't want to join you at the carrier but do talks and such away from the other delegates because hes doesn't want anyone to know the Thon are consulting so to speak with you. If the Thon ally with your enemies though by the way please note that he as a diplomat, emissary has diplomatic immunity and can still be there to talk to and not as an enemy.

of course according to the roleplay he doesn't even know about the meeting on the aircraft carrier or red Americas involvement or enter into the conflict as of yet unless you tell him. hes there for intel and to see if a possible strategy or effective implement of Thon commonwealth military forces or involvement can happen so he can actually present a viable course of action to the Thon commonwealth, whatever courses of action you suggest or they compromise ya know?

not intended to be annoying or "special" though lol

its just that the Thon are only just one major superpower in the Thon Commonwealth, and being in the middle of both Russia and America in the Pacific, so the commonwealths sentiments are diverse and undecided. You know, kinda like the US was in WWI if you know history well enough, where America also wanted to join and came close to joining the German side as well, believe it or not. thats why the US came into WWI so late. plus the Germans unrestricted uboat warfare and there aggression.. well against anything in the dang ocean to include the US kinda tipped us against em very easily.

I'm kinda the same way, although siding with your enemy would be the easier and more profitable and more easily achieved victory or at least greater possibility of it, especially since your enemy, like the Germans did in WWI and WWII have better technology and military force. And even though the axis was vastly outnumbered by the allies as in Russia and operation overlord they still were the superior military. As is your enemy superior while they being smaller than yours..especially in comparison to your ridiculous multiple hundreds of thousands navy ships lol.

Plus there training there allies in cosmonaut programs and space stuff and such, which in history and today, although little know it, the Russians are superior in rocketry than us just, it just there underfunded. That and if they didn't have that one accident where there whole space rocket base and space program blew up in that one accident they had, and covered up from the public, they would actually be ahead of us now in space.

anyway "I'm sorry if you disagree or believe my history is distorted-cause it actually isn't, its just ironic-but i felt like it could help you to understand my dilemma in becoming involved here and who to choose. you understand?
If anything I'm gonna to do a random generator dice to gamble and says its results are the opinion of the commonwealths leaning to whatever side in this conflict if worst comes to worst lol, and I'll just stick to that side permanently.


lol either way, I am trustworthy and not all that devious, after all I never lied and won't, as well as neither did any betrayal and such things.

you understand what I'm saying?

and the same with my factbook I'm always updating it I'm planning on having New Zealand, and Australia join my commonwealth, that way I get bigger and the population is easier to roleplay with but gaining more and getting bigger without war, anyway that's just one of my plans

Ill have him meet with the Vice President then

hey TAP by the way, my emissary I sent you doesn't want to join you at the carrier but do talks and such away from the other delegates because hes doesn't want anyone to know the Thon are consulting so to speak with you. If the Thon ally with your enemies though by the way please note that he as a diplomat, emissary has diplomatic immunity and can still be there to talk to and not as an enemy.

of course according to the roleplay he doesn't even know about the meeting on the aircraft carrier or red Americas involvement or enter into the conflict as of yet unless you tell him. hes there for intel and to see if a possible strategy or effective implement of Thon commonwealth military forces or involvement can happen so he can actually present a viable course of action to the Thon commonwealth, whatever courses of action you suggest or they compromise ya know?

not intended to be annoying or "special" though lol

its just that the Thon are only just one major superpower in the Thon Commonwealth, and being in the middle of both Russia and America in the Pacific, so the commonwealths sentiments are diverse and undecided. You know, kinda like the US was in WWI if you know history well enough, where America also wanted to join and came close to joining the German side as well, believe it or not. thats why the US came into WWI so late. plus the Germans unrestricted uboat warfare and there aggression.. well against anything in the dang ocean to include the US kinda tipped us against em very easily.

I'm kinda the same way, although siding with your enemy would be the easier and more profitable and more easily achieved victory or at least greater possibility of it, especially since your enemy, like the Germans did in WWI and WWII have better technology and military force. And even though the axis was vastly outnumbered by the allies as in Russia and operation overlord they still were the superior military. As is your enemy superior while they being smaller than yours..especially in comparison to your ridiculous multiple hundreds of thousands navy ships lol.

Plus there training there allies in cosmonaut programs and space stuff and such, which in history and today, although little know it, the Russians are superior in rocketry than us just, it just there underfunded. That and if they didn't have that one accident where there whole space rocket base and space program blew up in that one accident they had, and covered up from the public, they would actually be ahead of us now in space.

anyway "I'm sorry if you disagree or believe my history is distorted-cause it actually isn't, its just ironic-but i felt like it could help you to understand my dilemma in becoming involved here and who to choose. you understand?
If anything I'm gonna to do a random generator dice to gamble and says its results are the opinion of the commonwealths leaning to whatever side in this conflict if worst comes to worst lol, and I'll just stick to that side permanently.


lol either way, I am trustworthy and not all that devious, after all I never lied and won't, as well as neither did any betrayal and such things.

you understand what I'm saying?

and the same with my factbook I'm always updating it I'm planning on having New Zealand, and Australia join my commonwealth, that way I get bigger and the population is easier to roleplay with but gaining more and getting bigger without war, anyway that's just one of my plans

Well you COULD have backstabbed for big lump of cash :rolleyes:

There is not going to be an invasion, so I think we should move on. Either make a retaliation (which will lead to our retaliation and probably ultimately to a nuclear war), or then we should start negotiations.

ya i have no ideas where this thread is going but before you jump the gun, burlovia, either wait for the allied command to finish meeting or attack now and get creamed . . . .whatever its up to you.

ya i have no ideas where this thread is going but before you jump the gun, burlovia, either wait for the allied command to finish meeting or attack now and get creamed . . . .whatever its up to you.

I'm with DaWoad on this. Plus, I have some ideas for some naval engagements. That and I am waiting for The Northern Baltic to respond to my massive MOAB attack.

Has anyone heard from the northern baltic . . . . cause if hes gone then we could probably just RP the MOABs Taking out his Command and Political structure and leaving him in choas (out of the war either permanently or until he shows again)

Has anyone heard from the northern baltic . . . . cause if hes gone then we could probably just RP the MOABs Taking out his Command and Political structure and leaving him in choas (out of the war either permanently or until he shows again)

I'll send a telegram, and then well see what happens. Ill give him a couple days.

I'll send a telegram, and then well see what happens. Ill give him a couple days.

sounds good

Ill be gone and cant post for the next four days since I have a MUTA 6 drill as a FTX down at Camp Gruber OK this weekend. So please don't do too much involving me or end the conflict while I'm gone lol. I'll be back online Tuesday. Until then I have some shit to blow up in real life lol. over a thousands lbs det cord, subsurface munitions, gonna make some craters, do some digging, (have to fill holes we make :( Blowing some doors will be great too. COMBAT ENGINEERS all the way oh yeah! :sniper::mp5::cool:;)

sounds good

Apparently, North Baltic is on vacation, and he has someone else taking it over for him.

Apparently, North Baltic is on vacation, and he has someone else taking it over for him.

ok so are they gonna be posting for him then? or do we take him out?

I think its reasonable that it is me or one of of his other allies that rp him in the case he is not returning for a while, because our rp interests are the closest to his. What do you think?

I think its reasonable that it is me or one of of his other allies that rp him in the case he is not returning for a while, because our rp interests are the closest to his. What do you think?

ill agree to that
btw are we in the meeting yet or is the TAP'ian president discussing things with her own staff

ill agree to that
btw are we in the meeting yet or is the TAP'ian president discussing things with her own staff

Im ready when you are.

Im ready when you are.

sounds good then ill start off the meeting with hawk introducing everyone

Ok, Jolt is supposed to notify me via email subscriptions. What a dick.

I'm sorry.

Ok, Jolt is supposed to notify me via email subscriptions. What a dick.

I'm sorry.
lol no worries . . . . I was kinda enjoying not getting my ass kicked lmao

I'm backkkkkkkkk. Sorry for that guy not posting. I'll talk to him and figure out why he didn't and I'll also wag my finger at him.

I'm backkkkkkkkk. Sorry for that guy not posting. I'll talk to him and figure out why he didn't and I'll also wag my finger at him.

lol. Oh noes, its the finger wag of death..!

Anywho, I am gonna start getting more and more involved in FT stuff, so if I am ever absent for a day and something happens, send me a TG, as I reload NationStates about once an hour that I am online right now.

I'm backkkkkkkkk. Sorry for guys for not posting.

Well I didn't blow up anything this drill, that's all for AT that I'm all worried about planning for and such. I just drove tanks all weekend.

The 577 command vehicle broke down though, just about a thousand feet away from where we were turning it in too and done for the day about to leave to watch the KU game lol. Good thing it broke down then though since it was close and I had the cadet driving it at the time so I can give him a hard time that he broke it lol. The fuel gauge was broken, reading it was full all the time, but we found that wasnt the problem though or anything gas related.

One thing was that it barley got up steep hills in comparison to the other
M113s, and other tracks. I could've got outside and ran backwards faster than that thing went up a hill. Oh well it will be fixed by AT and it was much funnier than blowing up just a few demolitions that I'll get to later. Saw an aviation unit inserting troops and taking off/landing in the two MALP sites while we were doing driver's training also. That was fun.

Oh well that's all done and I'm back now. Sorry for not being too involved I'm going to pick a side and either work for victory or the unavoidable mutual assured destruction.

Hey did anyone notice my invitation to discuss strategy through satellite connections?

hey TAP let me know when the storm is over please

hey Northern Baltic what were the effects of TAP MOAB attacks on your fleet? effects not retaliation to them

and huh what's going on at the moon?
you ready to attack some TAP place on the moon? you know just the tiniest accelerated thing can puncture a soldiers suit and kill them because of their suits being breached unless their quickly repairible, sealible, or like mechs I guess

Yeah. I have my lunar base up there and I have soldiers and teletanks as well. I know the suits can be punctured easily, but that's why I have tanks there.

Hey, Leafanistan, I need to know stats on those shells.

Distance: (in kilometers)
Diameter: (in meters)
Density: (in kg/m cu)
Velocity: (in km/s)
Angle:

This way I can calculate the exact nature of the impact

Hey, Leafanistan, I need to know stats on those shells.

Distance: (in kilometers)
Diameter: (in meters)
Density: (in kg/m cu)
Velocity: (in km/s)
Angle:

This way I can calculate the exact nature of the impact

I am firing at you from a very high angle near vertical. The shells are 155mm and are the standard antishipping shells, kinetic kill, depleted uranium shells. They are traveling over 3 km/s.

I am firing at you from a very high angle near vertical. The shells are 155mm and are the standard antishipping shells, kinetic kill, depleted uranium shells. They are traveling over 3 km/s.

No, I need the stats for the ones you fired for orbit. I found a place that determines how much damage an object does upon impact.

god damn what have i missed?

Hey TAP please don't forget to tell me when the storm is over.


And what do you mean round up all Thon personnel and send them up for orbital confinement? You mean to put my Commonwealth people just visiting, touring, contributing to your economy, in concentration camps like the US did the Japanese during WWII? how evil man. even the hospital ships, doctors and those treating your injured? even when there’s been no good reason to do so, no act of aggression, threat, hostility of any kind? but just quite the opposite being that of aid, weather Intel, hospital ships and such?

For all you know the Thon jumbo jet with (just two not the misleading concept of many more in the air in the phrase "a number of aircraft") is going to that country to try to negotiate a ceasefire or to back off and in that or similar such ways actually help you.

And the escort fighters were because of caution, standard procedure for such important dignitaries, the war zone they were literally entering and maybe even mistrust and unassurdeness of the country they’re going into?

After all it’s the first major superpower the Logothetes tou dromou has been to outside the Commonwealth. Your actions are fueling the fire for me to side with them my friend, first the terrorism, then nukes, then now this brashness, come on dude, what kind of nation you running? maybe he's just going there to get their side of the story since yours is rather vague.

well then, this must had been a lot of fun...

*looks for bomb shelter*

well then, this must had been a lot of fun...

*looks for bomb shelter*

lol ya its getting . . . .steamy lmao

Hey TAP please don't forget to tell me when the storm is over.


And what do you mean round up all Thon personnel and send them up for orbital confinement? You mean to put my Commonwealth people just visiting, touring, contributing to your economy, in concentration camps like the US did the Japanese during WWII? how evil man. even the hospital ships, doctors and those treating your injured? even when there’s been no good reason to do so, no act of aggression, threat, hostility of any kind? but just quite the opposite being that of aid, weather Intel, hospital ships and such?

For all you know the Thon jumbo jet with (just two not the misleading concept of many more in the air in the phrase "a number of aircraft") is going to that country to try to negotiate a ceasefire or to back off and in that or similar such ways actually help you.

And the escort fighters were because of caution, standard procedure for such important dignitaries, the war zone they were literally entering and maybe even mistrust and unassurdeness of the country they’re going into?

After all it’s the first major superpower the Logothetes tou dromou has been to outside the Commonwealth. Your actions are fueling the fire for me to side with them my friend, first the terrorism, then nukes, then now this brashness, come on dude, what kind of nation you running? maybe he's just going there to get their side of the story since yours is rather vague.

Dude, you refused to meet with us on another vessel with greater security. Then you go to a nation that we are fighting, under fighter escort. You are going to have to do something In Character to prove your trustworthiness. Because my people have been suspicious of you since those Mercs offered to kill my leader.

Dude, there’s' nothing wrong with a fighter escort and Kentarchos Polend was there doing just that, working towards trustworthiness and an end to the conflict. Please don't force me to quote fighter escorts and such on your side and your neutral delegates and such.-

(hey there always has to be that one guy who trys to put an end to it all, and just stuck in the middle and hates the whole mess lol that’s what I'm RP as) (hey instead of a Paris peace accord so to speak at the end of all this if there is one, it can be in my country lol)

-and the mercs are more leaning to your side if you pay them, because of Bulovia's mistrustworthness. They'll never deal with Burlovia at all, unless it's super, super, super, super, profitable to the point where the profit deeply hurts Burlovia paying the mercs for whatever lol. Besides the mercs are gone back to Merc Island now, since the blockade and embargo by your enemies renders their services to neutral, unaligned, and international vessels inpractible, impossible, and unneeded since others can't do anything or operate in the area anymore because of the embargo, blockade and mess.
They just left when that happened but didn't care to tell anyone because they don't have too and aren’t being paid to stay, so I didn’t put that into the main thread. Besides thet are rather trustworthy actually as well as predictable. They don't lie. Always go through with their services never betraying already agreed services for another service until that service is done and completed. It's just if they don't get offers they make them. And they were never aligned to you and had no freaking duty or obligation towards you or not to be against you. the same is for every nation not in this conflict.

but since your treatment of Kentarchos Polend is quite insulting and uncalled for...the Commonwealth is expecting to hear back from him...him, not you in regards to him that is...if that doesn’t happen....


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Originally Posted by Mokastana
well then, this must had been a lot of fun...

*looks for bomb shelter*

lol ya its getting . . . .steamy lmao

is right indeed.

The orbital ones are at a shallow trajectory, coming down as a streak from an angle. Of course the bombardment has stopped but a significant number are still on their way at hypersonic velocities toward your antiaircraft and antimissile sites.

Probably doesn't make much of a difference now lol o well . . .
sorry gain bout the MiG thing and feel free to correct me on anything else I say as well I'm not that experienced at Rping Space battles.

wow Leafanistan, your doing some pretty good roleplaying, making it hard on me lol! and all Logothete wanted was room and board for that late evening and night, a nice dinner with some more unifical talk perhaps and the night with one of his sexy aides before commiting the next day, but he got his favorite foreign senator killed..before he even stepped out of the limo? not the kinda diplomatic visit he was expecting lol. Ah what to RP next? I assume after that the limo went shreiking off with him and his aides inside for protection to get them out of danger? I mean with the senate doors closed there's now no reason to stay I guess. Although I could roleplay my trained aid Sabrina very adept in medical skills, knowledge and first aid-(she had to be she was the Logothetes aid)- to immediatly respond and check the senator...he's dead right? and or won't make it?

either way damn good RP dude.

TAP,
I have some really bad news for you. You know the fleet that you sent to the South Pole? Yeah well my country is there. I didn't want to explain the whole situation ICly, so I just decided to tell you and everyone else here.

plus Australia and New Zealand are in my Commonwealth and are racing to destroy them before anything else. They'd do anything to gain prestige, combat experiance and such in a bid to enter the Thon Mililitary itself, serve on its ships, and in its military and its schools.

wow Leafanistan, your doing some pretty good roleplaying, making it hard on me lol! and all Logothete wanted was room and board for that late evening and night, a nice dinner with some more unifical talk perhaps and the night with one of his sexy aides before commiting the next day, but he got his favorite foreign senator killed..before he even stepped out of the limo? not the kinda diplomatic visit he was expecting lol. Ah what to RP next? I assume after that the limo went shreiking off with him and his aides inside for protection to get them out of danger? I mean with the senate doors closed there's now no reason to stay I guess. Although I could roleplay my trained aid Sabrina very adept in medical skills, knowledge and first aid-(she had to be she was the Logothetes aid)- to immediatly respond and check the senator...he's dead right? and or won't make it?

either way damn good RP dude.

Your guy is being ferried away as fast as possible. Security only knows a suspicious agent was seen moving toward the crowd and now there is a crowd of dead reporters and a dead Senator. Senator Kent has been injured and is being taken to the hospital.

You can RP shrapnel to the Logothete.

dangnit he's calling for a ceasefire just when I can take out his ships heading south. Hurry up and lets ally lol.

this was just getting fun, oddly enough though at him attacking you and your nation's land other than the other way around.

oh well hes still got over a hundred thousand naval ships...grant it most of them naval tenders, supply ships, cargo transport, repair and such but still that's alot.

he's still got over 70 aircraft carriers and the battle groups with them amongst other things.

dangnit he's calling for a ceasefire just when I can take out his ships heading south. Hurry up and lets ally lol.

this was just getting fun, oddly enough though at him attacking you and your nation's land other than the other way around.

oh well hes still got over a hundred thousand naval ships...grant it most of them naval tenders, supply ships, cargo transport, repair and such but still that's alot.

he's still got over 70 aircraft carriers and the battle groups with them amongst other things.

OOC: This whole situation means the moderate speaker of the house will be most likely be replaced by Senator Kent, who will push for continued war against the 'assassins'.

lol nice.

I guess I'll just send some expendable ambassador or do video conference from now on. although you might possibly be role playing NOVA CORP for TAP I guess you can get away with it if you just suspect and blame it on them. and this is nothing new for the Logothete much, the Thon war for independence had its such things. Ok he'll just get on the plane, leave Alana and Sabrina behind to wrap up things while he continues this duty and many others to the Commonwealth back home. The aides are like the embassy for now and can return back after the conflict is over, they have no office, or hold any rank, they're just aides acting as emissaries seeing what they can do.

lol nice.

I guess I'll just send some expendable ambassador or do video conference from now on. although you might possibly be role playing NOVA CORP for TAP I guess you can get away with it if you just suspect and blame it on them. and this is nothing new for the Logothete much, the Thon war for independence had its such things. Ok he'll just get on the plane, leave Alana and Sabrina behind to wrap up things while he continues this duty and many others to the Commonwealth back home. The aides are like the embassy for now and can return back after the conflict is over, they have no office, or hold any rank, they're just aides acting as emissaries seeing what they can do.

I never said you are getting out of the country.

oh.....ah...well you did say you were getting the logothete back to the airport...where he goes from there...?
I deleted the last message I made in main thread then.

Hey sorry, I had to go to Pearland TX for a Military Ball and I ended up....with this one girl... anyway long drive back to Pittsburg Kansas lol. I have another Military ball next weekend in MO so safe to say I won't ever post on weekends and some other times, so sorry. TAP had to go home for the weekend but I would've thought he would've posted and got back to this by now, I don't know where he is, I'll see him later today I guess, kick his butt in Call of Duty 4 or something.

I'd like to end up at the peace talks, but I'm still offically neutral and won't post anything until (1.) TAP responds to a few posts particularly one of mine, (2.) I get an alliance with Leafanistan and I'll just follow his lead, so it'd probably be odd for me to show up there, despite RPing so much for peace lol.

:( frowns at signs of no impending D-day type invasion..grr if only my population were in the billions and my budget bigger...

oh well, interesting first thread I've ever been in.

Bump for TAP?

Well, having looked at the storefront, it would appear that The Northern Baltic was lying about their weapons. too bad I don't know that IC'ly, I would love to call Bull Shit on your "Arms trade" IC.

That base is going to detonate in an hour or so. No sooner than that.

That base is going to detonate in an hour or so. No sooner than that.

Alright, you have a rather long march including the fact that we have to prep the landers to get back up. And we have to do it without your guys doing it. It will take us a long time.

Everything takes a long time in space. I don't want one of your guys flying off into nothingness due to a decimal point being off.

Is the Longean Order your puppet? Is the NOVA corporation your puppet?

Alright, you have a rather long march including the fact that we have to prep the landers to get back up. And we have to do it without your guys doing it. It will take us a long time.

Everything takes a long time in space. I don't want one of your guys flying off into nothingness due to a decimal point being off.

Is the Longean Order your puppet? Is the NOVA corporation your puppet?

Ain't that the truth.

As for TLO and NOVA. While NOVA is a puppet, TLO is more of a second nation. I don't have them do many military RP's together, mainly only using them together in character RP's and FT Military Actions. Just be glad I am not calling in USAP, NN, or the Council of XIII, and leaving them to FT RP's. Then again, now you could argue that TAP is TLO's Puppet.

Ain't that the truth.

As for TLO and NOVA. While NOVA is a puppet, TLO is more of a second nation. I don't have them do many military RP's together, mainly only using them together in character RP's and FT Military Actions. Just be glad I am not calling in USAP, NN, or the Council of XIII, and leaving them to FT RP's. Then again, now you could argue that TAP is TLO's Puppet.

This worries me and ventures absurdly close to puppet wanking.

The war is still on.

This worries me and ventures absurdly close to puppet wanking.

The war is still on.

You haven't RP'ed with the Empire of Five States then in FT. They all occupy the same part of the Large Magellanic Cloud. They share, to a point, some of the planets, and they do help each other out with Law Enforcement.

But, The Council of XIII is purely digital with a few physical installations, though they all serve on Imperial Ships as the Central Intellegence of a ship.

Niall Noiglach, NN, is highly combative towards the others, and is very isolationist, rarely stirring from their planets unless they view that the entire Empire is in danger.

the United States of American Planets serves as the government of the Empire, and takes care of most of the non-military stuff.

The Republic of The American Privateer is an Autonomous member of the Empire, and is the public face of the Empire.

The Holy Order of the Knights of Saint Longinus usually stays out of battles unless they observe a threat to Christians in another's actions, in which case they get invloved.

All of them operate somewhat independently, all of them have their own governments, and the only ones who always get along are the Council and The Republic.

You haven't RP'ed with the Empire of Five States then in FT. They all occupy the same part of the Large Magellanic Cloud. They share, to a point, some of the planets, and they do help each other out with Law Enforcement.

But, The Council of XIII is purely digital with a few physical installations, though they all serve on Imperial Ships as the Central Intellegence of a ship.

Niall Noiglach, NN, is highly combative towards the others, and is very isolationist, rarely stirring from their planets unless they view that the entire Empire is in danger.

the United States of American Planets serves as the government of the Empire, and takes care of most of the non-military stuff.

The Republic of The American Privateer is an Autonomous member of the Empire, and is the public face of the Empire.

The Holy Order of the Knights of Saint Longinus usually stays out of battles unless they observe a threat to Christians in another's actions, in which case they get invloved.

All of them operate somewhat independently, all of them have their own governments, and the only ones who always get along are the Council and The Republic.

That is the definition of puppet wanking and I worry for the state of this RP. You already have a bad rep, and I can see where people can get that idea.

Hey TAP I know how big a Stargate fan you are like I am. None of the guys may get this but we do.

My island prisons are kinda like the island for prisoners in that one Stargate Atlantis episode where the government sent them to be fed on by the wraith and they shot down the Atlantis team's jumper, only with more accommodations.

or like the one where SG1 got trapped and met that old lady who they called "destroyer of worlds" and used some plant to power the stargate to get away.

Oh and my guy and his SF that you have are military so yes they can be POWs technically but if you really are going to detain them like you also said you would ordinary Thon and commonwealth citizens and civilians in your country and round em up like America did the Japanese in WWII like you quoted to do similarly in:

The Pillar
Admiral Jack Ray was sick and tired of this. He sent out an order to arrest any and all Thon personell in the nation, and to send them to Space City, where they would be held until they could be lifted into orbit and stored.

orbital confinement? what as in stasis? that's pretty advanced for what we are doing here.

If anything gets too bad, well......do you remember that one episode in Stargate where Apophis brainwashed Tealc's son Ryac with a drug? SG1 rescued him and took him back to Earth to find out he had two severely deadly poisons in two of his teeth that could've of killed millions? Yeah well ........the kentarchos doesn't have it or know the SFs do either, but each SF has that capability.

So treat them well please, and don't roleplay that you can intercept or prevent it because its unknown to TAP and you only know it cause I said so in OOC. courtesies and common rules of war please, I'm not the Northern Baltic here...muwhahahaha!!!

plus the sub could've attached something underneath the Roosevelt's hull under the ocean...na I'm kidding about that. That would've of been detected by now if that happened and it would be a stupid, horrible, and unwise, despicable tactic anyways.

oh and jeesh man tough luck on this thread huh?

I guess Red America is nowhere to be found. although hes pretty ridiculous claiming all of north America as his country with less than 50 million on his nsdossier lol, he just filled it in like a coloring book. too bad TAP could probably use another America at least did anyone know who the hell Red America was or is anyway? he made a couple of post a few pages back

Leafanistan is the northern Baltic a puppet of yours?

Leafanistan is the northern Baltic a puppet of yours?

No. He's just some guy. He has his own AIM and everything. Hell I declared war on him once. Puppet wanking is very much frowned upon.

cool. I was just wondering cause u seemed to be rping for him a little . . . .its all good :D and ya im not big enough to have a puppet lmao. BTW what is the actual definition of puppet wanking? using more than one nation in combat?

cool. I was just wondering cause u seemed to be rping for him a little . . . .its all good :D and ya im not big enough to have a puppet lmao. BTW what is the actual definition of puppet wanking? using more than one nation in combat?

Puppets aren't a size issue. Anyone with more than one email address can have puppets.

The thing with puppets and puppet wanking is that in Puppet wanking you use them to give yourself an advantage versus anybody else.

K I'm entering into the combat fray now against TAP.

I've updated my factbook just recently to show more of my Commonwealth, which can attribute more in RP and reality to where my bigger than stated military budget is from (its from commonwealth member nations as well hehe)

oh and anyone want to hire my mercenaries besides Burlovia? hehe. if not I guess I'll roleplay my Supreme Commander hiring em.

oh and Leafanistan, cool name for your sky marshal, pretty nice.

what was up with trying to get my guys to don your uniforms though? If they did that, along with you shuffling my logothete around so much and forcibly like into APCs, that convenient terrorist act in front of the logothete which could've RP'ed as injured him a bit, and made him more sympathetic to further hostilities with the TAP instead of ceasefire, and such it almost looks as if I'm becoming your puppet? lol!

Encrypted Transmission to the Thon Fleet

"You're now keyed into the local battlenet and you will be receiving orders. You are to meet up with Burlovian Forces attempting to take the Tortuga Sea Strait and perform amphibious operations on the strait itself to seal the American fleet."

supports my statement of how it seems I'm becoming your puppet...hmmm...we are a proud people you know. and we don't take kindly to taking orders....unless that is you would be willing to perhaps assume the title Eisenhower did in WWII as Supreme commander of allied forces?
Although my Supreme Commander "Jonathan Arrakis Thon" in the Commonwealth would be hurt upon hearing another with his title as Supreme Commander also but he being the supreme commander of the Commonwealth that is, he would be glad to ally with such another friendly and allied achiever. Have you already, do you now, or will you achieve or accept such a responsibility and prestige? If the other allies are willing we will be as well, to the point we see any be used as cannon fodder that is.

hey after all you are the strongest and biggest ally here it seems fitting I suppose lol

and he's got to get back to the Thon soon because of how this thread is progressing. I thought he was going to talk more senators or something not a sky marshal? he's there's for diplomatic purpose in establishing better relations, trade and whether there should be an alliance nothing really or specifically military related.

for that I can send my deputy Logothete of the Logothetes tou stratiotikou; who is responsible for the military economics and the wages of the army personnel. Which is the Equivalent to Secretary of Defense or in this case the deputy Logothete equivalent of deputy secretary of defense. Along with military advisers that can be sent with them that that all can either or either not be RP as well or not, but be there for allied coordination after the alliance is done and Hakan back in the Thon.

K I'm entering into the combat fray now against TAP.

I've updated my factbook just recently to show more of my Commonwealth, which can attribute more in RP and reality to where my bigger than stated military budget is from (its from commonwealth member nations as well hehe)

oh and anyone want to hire my mercenaries besides Burlovia? hehe. if not I guess I'll roleplay my Supreme Commander hiring em.

oh and Leafanistan, cool name for you sky marshal, pretty nice.

what was up with trying to get my guys to don your uniforms though? If they did that, along with you shuffling my logothete around so much and forcibly like into APCs, that convenient terrorist act in front of the logothete which could've RP'ed as injured him a bit, and made him more sympathetic to further hostilities with the TAP instead of ceasefire, and such it almost looks as if I'm becoming your puppet? lol!

and he's got to get back to the Thon soon because of how this thread is progressing. I thought he was going to talk more senators or something not a sky marshal? he's there's for diplomatic purpose in establishing better relations, trade and whether there should be an alliance nothing really or specifically military related.

for that I can send my deputy Logothete of the Logothetes tou stratiotikou; who is responsible for the military economics and the wages of the army personnel. Which is the Equivalent to Secretary of Defense or in this case the deputy Logothete equivalent of deputy secretary of defense. Along with military advisers that can be sent with them that that all can either or either not be RP as well or not, but be there for allied coordination after the alliance is done and Hakan back in the Thon.

A puppet is a nation you directly control because you are that nation. A puppet is not a friend, or a close ally.

I wanted to try to make it look like your representative was just a regular officer and sneak them past what we thought were terrorists. You refused, but no one else is coming.

Sky Marshall Amanda Arcturus is the daughter of Arkady Arcturus or High Father, the founder of Leafanistan after the fall of the Soviet Union. She is also a member of the Triumvirate Council mentioned earlier in the thread, the executive body in Leafanistan.

of course I refused to don your uniform! but I didn't refuse to seem them though.

But it seems cool and an honor to who he's meeting now though

and I just edited what you replied to. You might want to look at it again.

High Father? nifty title, almost akin to the title of Supreme Commander I have.
Emperor, grand emperor, or king just don't do it, do they? lol these are better lol.

and Eric or TAP. you know Supreme Commander Thor of the Asgard in Stargate? That's kinda why I wanted my supreme guy in my nation's government to be named that hehe. cool huh?

and yes a know what a puppet is as defined in nationstates but there's a separate definition in reality that I was referring to is akin to what I was referring to here. but no matter I see.

Is everyone OK with me using futuristic hypersonic cruise missiles? I thought I need something that could respond to TAP´s hightech wanking. :p

Is everyone OK with me using futuristic hypersonic cruise missiles? I thought I need something that could respond to TAP´s hightech wanking. :p

Hypersonic Missiles have existed since the 1960's, i.e. the Sprint and Spartan missiles, and there are supersonic cruise missiles by the Russians that are currently deployed. A hypersonic one, that isn't limited in range would have to consist of at least two parts.

A subsonic to supersonic cruising portion and a hypersonic terminal section. It will cruise the majority of the distance to its target and then when it reaches its target will accelerate to hypersonic speeds.

Hypersonic Missiles have existed since the 1960's, i.e. the Sprint and Spartan missiles, and there are supersonic cruise missiles by the Russians that are currently deployed. A hypersonic one, that isn't limited in range would have to consist of at least two parts.

A subsonic to supersonic cruising portion and a hypersonic terminal section. It will cruise the majority of the distance to its target and then when it reaches its target will accelerate to hypersonic speeds.

Weird, Wikipedia says that there are currently none, except for space rockets of course. Well that isn´t the most reliable place to find information from, anyway. These missiles move at the speed of mach 8, which is FAST.

BTW, nice to see NS2 coming :eek::D:);):fluffle::rolleyes:

Weird, Wikipedia says that there are currently none, except for space rockets of course. Well that isn´t the most reliable place to find information from, anyway. These missiles move at the speed of mach 8, which is FAST.

BTW, nice to see NS2 coming :eek::D:);):fluffle::rolleyes:

Remove the smilies next time even in OOC, they're carry overs from Jolt and I think they set the wrong tone especially when dealing with TAP.

And speaking of TAP, where is he, or TLO, or NOVA Corp?

hes lost his will to post lol.

maybe waiting for my forces to attack to roleplay against them as in reaction guess. Which I'll do once I ally with your sky marshal.

Please visit the following link
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=554959

is anyone still on TAP's side?

me, you possibly? um colstreme and the league is coming in on TAPs side right now. And maybe the Hegemony as well

I'm pulling a surprise witness in a second.

I'm pulling a surprise witness in a second.

you wha?????

Fleet CENTCOM

"Attention all ships, the Emergency Canal has been destroyed via intelligence from the Thon. We are now going to engage in OPERATION RESTRAINED ARM. You are to choose a city to target and invade. You can request A.N. Support at any moment from our member nations. We have chosen York as our target."

"Remember to reduce civilian casualties."

Coast off York

The ships of the fleet began moving to York, and broadcast a message.

"Attention Citizenry of York, your city has been targeted by the Allied Nations as a site for invasion. Please evacuate the entire city and put a white flag on your doorstep to note you have evacuated your house and then put a full name of all the people in you house for compensation later."



whoa dude York ain't exactly a coastal city, looks like maybe some serious mountain warfare dude, you got a pair since its further inland it ain't gonna be easy. I guess I can send some of my mountain warfare guys to assist you, they excel at such since there Thon country is interiorly defended by six super fortresses networked together throughout the Thon Mountains. These strategically placed fortress imbedded deep in the largest mountains are the backbone of the Thon Army Defenses and training bases of which the Thon army frequently exercises in the harsh mountain environment. These six fortresses: Sarmizegetusa, Blidaru, Piatra Roşie, Costeşti, Căpâlna and Baniţa were built during colonization and continuously upgraded since the emergence of the Thon as a Nation. Good luck dude, I'll role play sending them after I finish a post about invade the Barbary islands.


Could someone please tell me who and what blackhelm or griffencrest is and are please?

could someone please tell me who and what blackhelm or griffencrest is and are please?

The Blackhelm Confederacy is an isolationist, racist nation who has strong Antimuslim standings. It does nothing much but export consumer goods and services.

The Griffencrest Corporation takes advantage of loose foreign policy to act as a country and attack smaller nations to seize their oil and sell that. The Griffencrest Corporation is infamous here at NS for taking advantage of all the newbie "I discovered Oil/Uranium/Candy mines" posts. They are incorporated and headquartered in the Blackhelm Confederacy.

And yes this concludes our diplomacy and you can get back to making war.

your going to invade????

your going to invade????

What is a "going to invade????" and why do I have one?

What is a "going to invade????" and why do I have one?

lmao good call heheheheh its a rare form of parasitic mammal that feeds only a the dead of night and is almost never seen. And you have one cause . . .. . . . um . . . . . .it sounds cool?

Just FYI, York is in the Hades Mountain Ranges, which is active right now. What with Hades itself currently erupting (a Yellowstone class supervolcano) air traffic is not wise. And as that is the only way over the erupting mountains and volcanoes that form our east coast. Go look at the map, and read the description of that area.

Just FYI, York is in the Hades Mountain Ranges, which is active right now. What with Hades itself currently erupting (a Yellowstone class supervolcano) air traffic is not wise. And as that is the only way over the erupting mountains and volcanoes that form our east coast. Go look at the map, and read the description of that area.

I know.

huh? what is one? who has what one? where'd the heck that come from? oh well.

thanks Leafanistan for answering and telling me who they are.
I looked and am still looking into it and there factbooks or threads seem perrty boring and unpleasing too. found Blackhelm Confederacy but didn't find Griffencrest Corporation yet.

And yes this concludes our diplomacy and you can get back to making war.

:D yeah D-day! let the perty red and orange fiery fireworks begin!

I'm sorry lol I didn't know you were enjoying roleplaying the diplomatic portion of the thread with the Logothete lol.

your going to invade????

well we gave chances for TAP to end the thread and war, but he won't so it looks like it maybe, maybe not, his choice, you allies ready for a long....war? hmm, come on help his land forces by attempting to get close enough to land friendlies on his shore to assist I dare ya! muwahahahah! ah shucks shutting up now...sorry flinches before imminent pain :D....

:sniper:boom

Just FYI, York is in the Hades Mountain Ranges, which is active right now. What with Hades itself currently erupting (a Yellowstone class supervolcano) air traffic is not wise. And as that is the only way over the erupting mountains and volcanoes that form our east coast. Go look at the map, and read the description of that area.

yikes I know my mountain warfare troops use lava tunnels and such in the Thon but looks like they wouldn't be too comfortable in that there place, jeesha ouch! good roleplay and timing for eruptions on ur part dude. bummer for your wildlife though man, lol yes I'm an environmentalist sort of hehe.

Except when it comes to the dang EPA interfering with my job me having to do environmental impact assessments, hazardous waste materials of freakin lightbulbs and double AA batteries and the like, jeesh. Can't the army just blow up demolitions for Annual training, break out the treads and tracks and tear up the dirt when it wants to? that would be nice but noo there are freaking environemtal concerns.....agh! nvm. Anyway sorry, I wont go into that. kudos dude to your fiery balls of lava on ur east coast. gggrrr blast!:headbang:

lol

In Orleans and across the country, Thon personnel where rounded up, and placed in impromptu jails and prisons. Anyone who even looked like they where part of the military of The Thon (wearing military uniforms of The Thon) where shot instantly, and a placard bearing the word "Traitor" in Ur and English was hung from their necks.


OOC that's just NOVA not TAP or anyone else right?
my Kentorchos, his guards, and the unarmed military personnel from the amphibious warship and Thon navy doctors and nurses on the hospital ships are ok right? since ther under TAP not NOVA? plus there...unarmed.

there is no Thon race or ethnicity I am an immigrant nation, unless you just round up the races from our commonwealth members, like say you round up all Vietnamese, Taiwanese, who look Chinese, and are Chinese lol, Australian, Siamese, Jews..since Israel is in my Commonwealth....hell just round up every Asian u see why don't you, a pretty large slippery slope you got your self there.

While they may carry passports and documents claiming and proving to be Thon and Commonwealth citizens they won't flash em to you or around. That and we don't exactly speak a Thon language, it's a inconvenient multi language society, kinda like how in the series Firefly and movie Serenity where everyone speaks both Chinese and English.


plus how am I traitor? we've never allied, no Thon or Commonwealth diplomat or embassy was ever in your country, and we've never signed or promised to sign any agreements. And as of now you have fired the first shot, not me so thanks for playing right into my justifications and all :D

and I thought u had control of your jails not NOVA wish you've tried to disband in the past?......or is it like safe houses..secret jails were you treat my people like those treated in Guantanamo bay?

The Longinean Order ordered their forces south to Orleans. The sound of revving engines played across the country as knights rode their Tomahawk Motorcycles south towards the port, Masadas and Lances at the ready.

U mean to tell us that alot of your people are riding down on one of the if not most expensive motorcycles ever built in the world to Orleans? they couldn't afford that, that's ridiculous, and if they could afford it, I'd imagine they spend the money on weapons not some fancy over suped up 400mph motorcycle. plus in todays world there illegal to dirve and operate on basically any roads u mean to tell me your country allows it too?

please do clarify ungood sir....(you're becoming the what you makeing the Northern Baltic to be out to be..)

in reply to the OOC on the IC line ok . . . a suicide run huh? I wonder? lol aight well gl with that.

not suicide if I take Orleans airport...muwhahahaahaha! 1000 aircraft should do the trick hehe and that it being the south portion of a peninsula I could establish a sufficient portion of trench warfare and front to repel him as long as I don't advance therefore thinning my lines, it's not like I'll being taking a city on Lakota where hes has god knows ten times the room and places to come in on me and for me to defend as well as artillery places to fire on me from. taking the south, well with the small terrain at first then opening up provides better tactical advantage in that regard. Besides, if he's a true roleplayer he wont roleplay like he is expecting it because after all I didn't give him the hand copy or any possibility to intercept my plans and operation, for all he should know 'm going to invade Madagascar. But I guess he's not like that huh? as long as he doesn't destroy his airfield or airfields there and fuels and such so I can't get any when I take it I'll be fine, otherwise that's just plain goram frakin ballshot. becasue strictly RP and reality saying here, he wouldn't know about it, until I was doing it. cause after all his transmissions, communications, sensors and such are being jammed, satellites or any space assets for that matter ruined, and a blockade and tons of ash and weather related things to blind him. and being at the tip of his southern peninsula he doesn't have that much land room for sea based defense as compared me attacking Lakota, his angles are all interrupted, It'll just depend on my and allied reinforcements and his army rolelpaying abilities.
and at that...well being infantry, combat engineer and an army officer I think I think I can handle that from you Eric (TAP) hehe.

while I know giving away what I'm going to do has happened, and foolish, I guess its a consequence of roleplaying on texting on these threads huh? I mean its not like I could say in the middle of the thread hey my military just showed up out of nowwhere and is assaulting your city. I 've got to roleplay it ya know? Or am I missing something from my first time in a thread at all?

Can we get a more detailed map with city names and stuff? For when the actual invasion begins and all.

ah shucks I just got kicked out and exiled out of my region and am now in some rejected realms region, because of this war thread. What a bummer. oh well.
:D

TAP: Are you going to respond to the Scud missile attack?

Thon: You can come to my region. :cool:

ah shucks I just got kicked out and exiled out of my region and am now in some rejected realms region, because of this war thread. What a bummer. oh well.
:D

Well, that's what you get for turning on us.

And yes, I did respond to your scud attacks. I sniped them with HELLADS and THAADS and PATRIOT Missiles. I though I posted that.

mokan forces to arrive shortly

mokan forces to arrive shortly

When your ships get close me and probably Leocardia will launch an attack to keep you away from The Thon's bombardment.

well I did it :D

Operation overgod hehe.

Let's do a backbrief or AAR please. There wasn't any misunderstandings or problems so far were there?

And yes I like pictures. That's why I had alot of them.
how do you actually post pictures? instead of putting the link there actually showing them without having to put a link to click on them?

And using all those stealth UAVs most likely all to their death was very expensive and hurt my defense budget losing them. That's one reason I have modified carrier borne panvia tornadoes instead of expensive aircraft like JSF, super hornets, advanced Su-37's and such. I know, who has ever roleplayed Tornadoe aircraft on aircraft carriers? Well it's possible, and they can carry ordinance all the same while still being capable of going mach 2. It's just they have no stealth, and therefore have radar signatures, but that is good for this scenario I guess since it was a sufficient distraction while my stealth UAV fighters and bombers attacked from behind the northern Quiviria mountain range at night and have fun with all the juicy targets in the Tortuga sea.

When your ships get close me and probably Leocardia will launch an attack to keep you away from The Thon's bombardment.

and yes my forces are quite prettily heavily engaged and occupied at the moment so allied protection would be nice :D

First Fleet within Tortuga bay
"Sir, the Remora's that Eighth fleet dropped have picked up a large fleet sir. We believe it may belong to the Thon sir."
"hmmmm." Replied Hawk. "now thats interesting. Ok here's what were going to do. "

Remoras? are they remote sensors packages or something? Well either way they would've been taken out before my fleet came around to the north by allied navy ships and EMP bombs and detonations from missiles and such already.

and I didn't know you had a fleet trapped in the Tortuga as well.

oh well, my strike forces are not going to attack your fleet in there at all unless you fire upon on them, upon which case any aircraft carrier profiles would be targeted mostly. TAP targets or just the first ones my forces are capable and get a chance to engage are priority for em.

First Fleet within the Tortuga Sea
While the Thon UAVs were attacking only TAP'ian TArgets First fleet retaliated. Every one of its aircraft were launched towards the thon fleet. Ever one of the missile boats launched Sea-sea cruise missiles towards the Thon fleet as well, timed to arrive at the same time that the Hawks did. At the same time four main coil guns on each of the swords went to rapid fire attacking the thon anti air/ anti missile ships.

more specifically only TAP'ian TArgets First fleet retaliated

how can you say that and roleplay for him? is this another one of your puppets TAP?

and Dawoad...or TAP? could you please explain to me how these coil guns work? I'm kinda new and this is my first thread ever after all

and yes every one of your aircraft launched towards the Thon fleet, yes the NAVAL FLEET AND TORNADES, since you saw and reacted to them,

but as to the UAVs they came in on the attack after you reacted to the Thon fleet in the Barbary Islands, to make that clear. That was the whole point, come in behind your navies attention facing westwards while my stealth UAVs came in from the north east against the carriers while either the aircraft were still on on the deck or taken off and headed towards the Barbary islands therefore leaving the carriers vulnerable.

and you only have 4 swords? on ships too right? because any land based coil guns, posing danger to Barbary islands were taken out and priority targets from Burlovia. plus these coil guns on your ships would have to be firing from within the Tortuga sea itself of course, because of the mines separating the sea from the islands.

and how rapid..is rapid fire? not like a machine gun I'd imagine, they sound like some railgun type massive artillery guns, something of which can't exactly fire all too fast. but I don't know, please tell me more or something of these such coil guns

and as for "hawks" do you mean these kind of old hawks?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawk_missile

k, I've done some good posting, I'm gonna be idal and dormant for a bit, until more posts, and I get some telegrams and such.

more specifically

how can you say that and roleplay for him? is this another one of your puppets TAP?

and Dawoad...or TAP? could you please explain to me how these coil guns work? I'm kinda new and this is my first thread ever after all

and yes every one of your aircraft launched towards the Thon fleet, yes the NAVAL FLEET AND TORNADES, since you saw and reacted to them,

but as to the UAVs they came in on the attack after you reacted to the Thon fleet in the Barbary Islands, to make that clear. That was the whole point, come in behind your navies attention facing westwards while my stealth UAVs came in from the north east against the carriers while either the aircraft were still on on the deck or taken off and headed towards the Barbary islands therefore leaving the carriers vulnerable.

and you only have 4 swords? on ships too right? because any land based coil guns, posing danger to Barbary islands were taken out and priority targets from Burlovia. plus these coil guns on your ships would have to be firing from within the Tortuga sea itself of course, because of the mines separating the sea from the islands.

and how rapid..is rapid fire? not like a machine gun I'd imagine, they sound like some railgun type massive artillery guns, something of which can't exactly fire all too fast. but I don't know, please tell me more or something of these such coil guns

and as for "hawks" do you mean these kind of old hawks?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawk_missile

nope look at my fact book. no I am not a TAPian puppet and u specified that you were only attacking Tap'ian targets in tortuga. the tornadoes are refueling (unless u really wanna tell me you have that much fuel. lol rapid fire= not so rapid maybe 1 shot every 5 minutes tops (yep rail gun). yes they are on swords as this is just ME not Tap (2 per ship per broadside). And my aircraft never launched (ull notice that read up plz). read fact book for the description of the Hawks as well as an explanation of the swords.

Remoras? are they remote sensors packages or something? Well either way they would've been taken out before my fleet came around to the north by allied navy ships and EMP bombs and detonations from missiles and such already.

and I didn't know you had a fleet trapped in the Tortuga as well.

oh well, my strike forces are not going to attack your fleet in there at all unless you fire upon on them, upon which case any aircraft carrier profiles would be targeted mostly. TAP targets or just the first ones my forces are capable and get a chance to engage are priority for em.

ya the remora's were useless and yep I have had a fleet trapped in the tortuga bay for a while.

And my aircraft never launched (ull notice that read up plz)

I did read you wrote:


First Fleet within the Tortuga Sea
While the Thon UAVs were attacking only TAP'ian Targets. First fleet retaliated. Every one of its aircraft were launched towards the thon fleet

looks like you used the word launched to me

:D

I did read you wrote:




looks like you used the word launched to me

:D

lol I meant before lmao

DaWoad, What Anti-ship missiles are you using.
I can still destroy them, even with Corvettes.

DaWoad, What Anti-ship missiles are you using.
I can still destroy them, even with Corvettes.

of course. I was using Mark 48 ADCAP torpedoes

The Thon: quick lesson in RPing, not to sound elitist or anything.

Sound professional, avoid slang unless it is in character for the person.

Look up passive voice and active voice, you want to avoid passive voice as much as possible.

Describe more. While adjectives are great do not rely on them as a crutch. Use strong verbs like this.

"He walked calmly across the room."

OR

"He sauntered across the room."
"He ambled across the room."
"He strolled across the room."

See the difference? With a strong verb you keep the sentence compact and not loaded down with adjectives. Yet you maintain and even enhance your meaning.

Show with words not with pictures.

OOC: The Pillar is located in Quivira, so nice try with the stealth.

Oh how convenient you tell us this now.

YOUR FRAKIN FACTBOOK SAYS THIS YOU GORAM LIAR!
stop changing things and screwing up the RP because your losing!

The Pillar

The Pillar is the Military Command Headquarters of The American Privateer. Located within the mountains under Shiloh, The pillar is a large cylindrical facility that extends down 34 Sub-Levels, with 15 Levels above ground.

You said just right there, Shiloh mountains-not Quiviria.

Picking up his own phone, he contacted the other commanders of the other Sea Sentinels. "Sir, this is Ensign James Ward of Sierra Sierra Three Six Seven. I have a group of ships that match Thon IFF codes sent to us from before they turned traitor. Permission to engage?"

You can't roleplay me ever giving you my IFF transponders unless I said so that being said even if I have such things. And even if I did which I didn't I would obviously change them especially in the massive undertaking of this case. DUh! plus I whipped around the north out of visual range even by binos, and there was cloud cover from all that weather you've been roleplaying to your advantage that concealed visuals and such, to include the fog of the night. so I say to you..."nice try"

I bring up my quote here which I wrote:

The Thon fleet used TAP's volcanoes' ash, mountains, Leafanistan's previous attacks around York, its and other allied EMP successes against the TAP, softening of coastal defenses targets, surveillance, lookout points, and local weather to further shield and conceal them while they whipped around the north of the TAP in the night to take the Barbary Islands and TAP by surprise.


The aircraft where fired upon as they tried to fly over the islands by continent based Air Defence Missiles. The small and sparse islands where blasted apart in a wasted display of ordinance, as several Light Houses and Kayaking Cabins where blasted apart. Unlike those who made a home and living on the Barrier Islands, the people on the Barbary Islands had homes on the continent and where there now.

You can't roleplay my forces who specifically targeted military targets not civilian to blow up several Light Houses and Kayaking Cabins because I didn't do that.

and

The sounds of silence filled the airwaves in response, as the few permanent residents on the Islands where now dead.

and again how convenient.

Off the Coast of Orleans
A single UDSV, or Unmanned Deep Submergence Vehicle, moved along the island chain. In it's hold was a single W88 Nuclear Warhead. It moved slowly, quietly along the fault line that extended south of the islands and towards the fleet, mere feet above the ground. It's caterpillar drive, which sounded like a geophysical event, was masked by the rumblings of the fault line.

As it reached the fleet, it stopped, and detonated. The 475 kiloton warhead detonated. The water was lifted up in a dome, 150 feet tall and a quarter mile wide.

Official Response
To All Invaders

This is John Nova, leader of the NOVA Corporation. We have detonated the weapon under your fleet as a warning. We are willing to detonate more such weapons. Remove yourself from these waters, sail home, and never bother The American Privateer again. Our Government is my organization's concern.

they are no longer off the coast of Orleans so your nuke detonated against nothing. I quote:

After lowering Thon flags and raising the true respective flags of the great nations the ships actually belonged too, the fleet off of Orleans continued to bombard coastal defenses while it then hurried north along TAP's western coast to the Barbary Islands!

key word: hurried

They were bombarding as they were moving, from the moment they started, the Thon attack to the north took place and via communications the allied fleet off of Orleans moved outta there., there wasn't enough time for anything like that to deploy in time especially at the slow stealth pace you described.

OOC: Ignored. My entire fleet is far from the Tortuga Sea right now. Go back, read, and edit it appropriatley. Also, try writing like you would a battle report butterbars.

again how convenient.

I do read, it's you who apparently doesn't, not even your own materials you created in your own factbook nevertheless, or your just lied.
I don't lie however, ever heard of the army values? Integrity is one of them, and anyone can use it even outside the army.

You ignore this and I'm warning ya, although I can't and won't speak for the others here, I'd imagine they would start to ignore some of your posts also.

OOC: Ignored. My entire fleet is far from the Tortuga Sea right now. Go back, read, and edit it appropriatley. Also, try writing like you would a battle report butterbars.

With the canal pretty much destroyed, where is your fleet anyway? I attacked the canal after intelligence from The Thon indicated that you would use it for a breakout.

Also my Su-87 is available in my reference thread.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13638063&postcount=602

The Tu-170N is a conventional bomber version of the Tu-160 designed for maritime patrol with systems optimized to destroy enemy shipping. They can carry a massive number of antishipping missiles, especially heavy ones.

The Thon, never lose your temper in OOC. No one deserves it.

With the canal pretty much destroyed, where is your fleet anyway? I attacked the canal after intelligence from The Thon indicated that you would use it for a breakout.

Also my Su-87 is available in my reference thread.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13638063&postcount=602

The Tu-170N is a conventional bomber version of the Tu-160 designed for maritime patrol with systems optimized to destroy enemy shipping. They can carry a massive number of antishipping missiles, especially heavy ones.

The Thon, never lose your temper in OOC. No one deserves it.

No, I had dispatched them prior to the war, and I had nothing in the Sea during the war. They have been sailing around trying to find fuel for the past month. Remember them being out near Antarctica? I was going to try for a break in so I could fuel them up.

No, I had dispatched them prior to the war, and I had nothing in the Sea during the war. They have been sailing around trying to find fuel for the past month. Remember them being out near Antarctica? I was going to try for a break in so I could fuel them up.

I'll take it. Regardless, being near Antarctica is a bad idea. Despite its name the Northern Baltic is in Antarctica.

Sorry about your moon men. Sorry about OPERATION GEMACO. (preemptively)

The Thon, never lose your temper in OOC. No one deserves it.

Your're probably right I just hate lying, as well as two contradicting sources of information that any author posts.

Go back to the beginnings of this thread, it states from the beginning that it was under Quivira. I am going to keep the Mountains there named Shiloh, but because I called that state Quivira in the thread, it is thus called Quivira canonically.


You are correct, please fix any discrepancies like this in your factbook please, its misleading. I apologize. I'll delete the post in the main thread and continue this here.

The Pillar, Space Command
Deep under the mountains of Quivira, the personnel of Space Command where in a frenzy

allright then. please post where in Quivira mountains the Pillar is, is to the far west near the Barbary islands were my tornadoes could engage?? or conveniently all the way to the far east of the Quivira state where they can't? or in the middle? Or you just gonna roleplay that its deep underground and undetectable? and not say so?

No, I had dispatched them prior to the war, and I had nothing in the Sea during the war. They have been sailing around trying to find fuel for the past month. Remember them being out near Antarctica? I was going to try for a break in so I could fuel them up.

Then I suppose I'll just roleplay taking out allied navy in the Tortuga sea, the Roosevelt itself, and naval yards, factories, defenses and both naval, military and strategic fuel reserves fuel depots and stations, or just the entire pillar itself, which would be protected from any EMP blast I'll give that. It would take time for any of your forces to react in time over the Tortuga sea to prevent or counter much once They attacked targets just in the Quivira mountains.

No, only YOU left. The others have not RP'ed their movement. Thus, they are still viable targets.


actually there was an agreement between us that I roleplay there forces under my flag for one post, because knowing you, you roleplay reactions and countermeasures to things your forces in this roleplaying couldn't ever know, but you know since we post the encrypted and background stories for the sake of the story and reading all this and for outside viewers.

I again bring up the quote:

Orleans was all a rouse! All but 8 Sarmizegetusa class - defensive arsenal cruisers and the merc ships suddenly lowered Thon flags and raised the flags of Leafanistan, the Northern Baltic, Burlovia; the allied nations.

Orleans was nothing but a decoy, the Thon armada with allied ships that joined on the way were not off Orleans or going to take it!
They were attacking and quite easily taking and seizing the Barbary Islands in front of the Tortuga sea! It was the Allied decoy, rouse, and plan all along!

After lowering Thon flags and raising the true respective flags of the great nations the ships actually belonged too, the fleet off of Orleans continued to bombard coastal defenses while it then hurried north along TAP's western coast to the Barbary Islands!

After all you didn't intercept and decrypt all or any of things that were posted by us, especially such things as hand delivered letters.

The Barbary Islands are just Lighthouses, Cabins and a few listening posts. You said that you where bombarding the islands. Therefore, I am able to RP the damage that you deal. It's how it works. Also, Artillery bombardment is inaccurate, and as those Islands are so small, you are going to hit Lighthouses and Cabins.

and since I didn't and there was no accurate or even vague description of any kind of defenses there form you other than AA guns that Burlovia took out, of which you roleplayed, after he attacked so he couldn't of known beforehand as is the same case with me.

Because of their long range ordnance, the short distance between the Barbary islands and your coast, RP the tornadoes as attacking your continental shore base defenses near the Barabary Islands as well.

I have a group of ships that match Thon IFF codes sent to us from before they turned traitor.

whatever but they weren't ever sent to you, so your still wrong.

of course. I was using Mark 48 ADCAP torpedoes

But behind the NOVA ship is an island, with my three ships surrounding the other three sides. So, unless you were to attack from behind (In which case you would be a very nice target for my mainland Coast Guard) I don't see how you could target the ships or even figure out they were fighting. Please explain that to me so I can post.

But behind the NOVA ship is an island, with my three ships surrounding the other three sides. So, unless you were to attack from behind (In which case you would be a very nice target for my mainland Coast Guard) I don't see how you could target the ships or even figure out they were fighting. Please explain that to me so I can post.

I had no idea bout the island um but basically my subs were just following the "pillar of creation' feel free to place them wherever (I fully expect to lose at least 2 at this point) as long as they are near the pillar of creation. (as to knowing u were firing the whole guns thing would show on passive sonar no?)

so Thon I realize you may be slightly tied up with TAP but um did you ever respond to my air attack?

I had no idea bout the island um but basically my subs were just following the "pillar of creation' feel free to place them wherever (I fully expect to lose at least 2 at this point) as long as they are near the pillar of creation. (as to knowing u were firing the whole guns thing would show on passive sonar no?)

Okay. And yeah it would. Okay I'll go post now.

Okay. And yeah it would. Okay I'll go post now.

sweet

TAP:
First, how do you get a warning before the radar is jammed?

Second, my fighters never flew over your country. They stayed over the ocean. Sorry should have been more clear. They planned to intersect your flight path somewhere between 50 and 75 miles from the coast, right before they were able to attack my ships.

TAP:
First, how do you get a warning before the radar is jammed?

Second, my fighters never flew over your country. They stayed over the ocean. Sorry should have been more clear. They planned to intersect your flight path somewhere between 50 and 75 miles from the coast, right before they were able to attack my ships.

Long range radar can detect the launching of fighters, and my sonobouys anchored to the floor of the sea (Standard operating procedure in Western Nations for Submarine defense) can pick up the sound of a carrier launching aircraft. Just know that when they launched those new AMRAAMS, they where still about 20 miles inland.

Long range radar can detect the launching of fighters, and my sonobouys anchored to the floor of the sea (Standard operating procedure in Western Nations for Submarine defense) can pick up the sound of a carrier launching aircraft. Just know that when they launched those new AMRAAMS, they where still about 20 miles inland.

Right... unless I'm missing something, I don't think that answers the question: How do you know I'm going to jam the radar before I do it. This brings up another point: you know the AMRAAMS require active radar? And without that, you're basically firing a bunch of high performance missiles that won't do anything.

Oh and also, with your long range radar jammed, I don't think you can pick up the launching of fighters with so many ships surrounding the aircraft carriers. The old Soviet ships I have there would make it very hard to pick up anything as slight as a gigantic 85,000 rocking from a plane launch.

OOC: what are the stats on the Khan antisuperdreadnought missiles

To properly respond to the attacks..

sorry for absence and lack of posts, I went back to south TX on the weekend from KS and haven't been at a puter for the whole time, but I'm back now, and whoa, is there a lot to catch up! been busy I see. awesome!

ehh I found them and responded, and I know that feeling, I launched my fleet and was gone for the weekend.

OOC: I didn´t know ICly who was the attacker. Part of my nuclear doctrine to respond ASAP to a nuclear attack on an ally. IC I had no idea Nova could possess nukes, so TAP was the only possible candidate. BTW nuking with a puppet doesn´t look too good.

I full heartedly agree, I'm really tired of your your puppet wanking, its just all too convenient...


Burlovia takes full responsibility of the nuclear attack.
We got the information that the attack was from NOVA only after our retaliation.

Shucks Burlovia now I may have abandon you to hold to my warning that:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Leafanistan View Post
"Well the ships currently in our attack group would be very willing to stand down. However hostilities will continue."

Space around the remaining space elevators

Microsatellites launched from Leafanistani based cosmodromes fell past the remaining space elevators controlled by the Americans. They were taking detailed intelligence photographs in many spectrum to see as much detail as possible.

Leafanistani Planners had pulled out a very dusty contingency plan called Operation Green Dog that was valuable in this situation.



Encrypted Reply

The Leafanistani government has sufficient POW camps for the time being, and we prefer a far higher guard. However these do present us with a good choice for war refugee locations and solves an important quandary that will come up later.

We accept your offer and wish to ask, what will it take for you to enter the war on the Allied Nation's Side to help recover your citizens.

[END]
Encrypted Reply

If a deal that no TAP civilian facilities will be targeted and engaged unless used by military forces and equipment. (we have innocent Commonwealth tourists, visitors, and people in their cities) and the condition upon any TAP and allied surrender that Thon Commonwealth citizens that were stuck in TAP during this conflict be released and get free travel back to their homes be in any and all terms of any surrender. Then a full alliance is encourage, wanted, desired and sought after by the esteemed Commonwealth. Violation of this even by allies will result in forfeiture of further dedicated Commonwealth military to the cause.

Exception to this clause is if Commonwealth people are rounded up into concentration camps or orbital confinement by and in TAP. If that happens, attack what cities you please, just make sure not to harm the concentration centers.


please telegram me before such things like that dude.

As our defence we may only say that we didn´t target civilian occupied area.


really? so TAP just roleplayed your nuke wherever TAP wanted it to land for his propaganda purposes? how ungood sportsmanlike of him.


so what was the target then? and aren't all TAP military places except the pillar in cities and near civilian occupied area?........

hey! could you of least nuked the pillar?! hehe he has already annoyed me with it being in two different places due the contradictions of his factbook and the start of the thread of where it is.

you two please respond cause I have Commonwealth citizens in his country and civilian occupied areas so i dont like or want him nuked:mad:

that is unless hes killed and genocided them all which I wouldn't put past him.

I know his puppet wanking, underhanded tactics, and sore loserness...:gundge:....:Dhehe I wonder if thats a word at all..sore loseredness...heehee

can tick you, me, and all us off and he used a nuke first, but let's just leave nukes out of this eh? not go to his level?

I mean such horrid things in anger are contagious. I'm even starting to wonder and fear Colestream might be contaminated from this and do just the same nuke sub thing with his post of:

Meanwhile a SP-35 Submarine moved south thorough the Tortuga Sea towards the Barbary Islands. Moving slowly, it approached the Thon Fleet and began to watch the aircraft taking off to attack the allied aircraft heading in. Once the aircraft took off, a surprise would be waiting.....

despite it being impossible for him to get that close, just like when NOVA used its nuke,

when the fleet already left and suddenly hurried away at top speed towards the Barbary islands once the rouse was let known and was then no longer at the location of the detonation.

hehe, but good o'l Leafanistan went with it anyways, hey wait a sec.. how come he seems to be the only one here who gives slack and let things go here?

Oh well it only helps if we do it with him, no nukes please, ya''l. nuke free threads are always more interesting and more fun, but nuke threads are just plain...:p yeaehack..if we result to that just to end this thread cause it's getting annoying or angry or anything, then hey

TAP just unconditionally surrender already. Victors don't pay the losers in war, thats why they are victors just deal with it or stop resulting to these such things please.

The 2 Submarines looking for the Burlovian Fleet suddenly spotted the Mokan missiles heading from their starboard to port. A radio communication was sent to the fleet heading for the blockade.

Meanwhile a SP-35 Submarine moved south thorough the Tortuga Sea towards the Barbary Islands. Moving slowly, it approached the Thon Fleet and began to watch the aircraft taking off to attack the allied aircraft heading in. Once the aircraft took off, a surprise would be waiting.....


OOC:

ignoring for now:

they were and are still in the air already and my carriers are pretty far out and it's incapable of you to see them because of my fleet protection and 50+ patrolling Tsunami class submarines. You wouldn't of been able to get past my defensive cruiser line without being detected, even if it is just one sub. especially the large kind of sub. please re edit or delete your last post, inform if this is the same sub you mentioned earlier and the number of tomahawks mentioned earlier. I now know everything and anything that comes out of the Tortuga sea and in the islands. (its very shallow there and plus its a dang very narrow small area so therefore pretty easy to find everything. I'd imagine the water is like clear reef like Hawaii see through to the surface type clean water too but if it isn't, still...come on.

unless that is your're near the surface very far away using a super advanced periscope, for a few seconds, and then do what your going to do, but for any longer than a minute at that, I would detect you.

I was waiting for your fleet to detect me and then i would repost with a part about the sub trying to escape. I was just waiting until your forces had detected me and then i will respond with the consequences of your attempts to sink the sub.

Post has been redited cause i missed a bit out when i saved it.
I was waiting for your fleet to detect me and then i would repost with a part about the sub trying to escape.


yeah been really busy and absent sorry about that everyone posted new mat quicker and more than I expected and than I had time for

funny thing is I wasn't and ain't gonna detect and attack it lol! so I guess your plans mute hehe.

...sighs....

ah...yeah I guess I can post my mini small theater subs detect you, or one of the sensors and submarine nets from my defensive cruisers detect you I guess.

but again, is this the same sub from before? is there one or two subs?

either way I'm not engaging any subs or going to roleplay detecting any subs unless their surfaced while their inside the Tortuga sea. Outside and at the inlet of it however is a whole another thing. so technically you could stay submerged and launch missles the whole time and all I'd is shoot em down or get hit. that is if you somehow get resupplied missiles without surfacing, and don't shoot missiles form the same submerged spot every time but change spots unpredictably each time you do.

I deleted the inquiry you might want to clear up your last two too. Thankyou kindly by the way.

TAP can we get stat on depths of the areas please? and what military stuff you do have in the region besides the pillar?

by TAP:
While there has been ties in the past between our government and NOVA, this was through the actions of Rouge Senators and Seditionary RSB Agents

but aren't your senators elected and your agents your people? therefore it is concluded your people support such an origination and support our goal of establishing a regime change within your country? what are "RSB" sagents, could you please spell out that acronym for me I have enough in my head already hehe.

ive been contacted about holding peace talks of some sort, when would these take place?

ive been contacted about holding peace talks of some sort, when would these take place?

I've seen you've posted alot but I have to ask this...are you another TAP puppet? If not, please tell me where to go to convince myself. Because I'm kinda mad at TAP's puppet detonating a nuke, roleplaying a target of his choice for another nations launched nuke to land, and the possibility of his big almost exhausted of fuel fleet out in the ocean using dang peace talks as a strategic opportunity for his ships to refuel peacefully with out us firing on him. I won't suffer peace talks so he can just use it to do that.

I counter your offer with just one part or place somewhere be designated neutral territory, kinda like a DMZ so we can have such talks in peace while the war still goes on but just not at he neutral area meeting place.

AND no it can't be the pillar or the Barbary islands.

I would say Orleans but with nuclear fallout, entry, skyline, harbor, port, and such not looking too pretty because of the nuke, it dont' look too feasible right now. It was never to be invaded and was to escape the war unscathed-(except for the coastal defenses on the beaches of course and such), but you can thank NOVA the way it is now.

but either way not a dang ship I can tell you, and that includes the PS Roosevelt. anywho that's my take on it.

Remember when the dammed Taliban wanted a frakkin cease fire in Afghanistan during Ramadan because we were winning? lol yeah, such dumb excuses and reasons won't be suffered by me here. However....I only speak for myself in this regard.

I've seen you've posted alot but I have to ask this...are you another TAP puppet? If not, please tell me where to go to convince myself. Because I'm kinda mad at TAP's puppet detonating a nuke, roleplaying a target of his choice for another nations launched nuke to land, and the possibility of his big almost exhausted of fuel fleet out in the ocean using dang peace talks as a strategic opportunity for his ships to refuel peacefully with out us firing on him. I won't suffer peace talks so he can just use it to do that.

I counter your offer with just one part or place somewhere be designated neutral territory, kinda like a DMZ so we can have such talks in peace while the war still goes on but just not at he neutral area meeting place.

AND no it can't be the pillar or the Barbary islands.

I would say Orleans but with nuclear fallout, entry, skyline, harbor, port, and such not looking too pretty because of the nuke, it dont' look too feasible right now. It was never to be invaded and was to escape the war unscathed-(except for the coastal defenses on the beaches of course and such), but you can thank NOVA the way it is now.

but either way not a dang ship I can tell you, and that includes the PS Roosevelt. anywho that's my take on it.

Remember when the dammed Taliban wanted a frakkin cease fire in Afghanistan during Ramadan because we were winning? lol yeah, such dumb excuses and reasons won't be suffered by me here. However....I only speak for myself in this regard.
still no response to the air attack . . .aight Ill go edit it still dude u should at least give a reason as to y it was ignored . . . . .

yes I did, in RPing my cruiser, my bombers and a few tornadoes destroyed, shooting missiles outta the sky, and my question is again "could you please tell me how many and what aircraft you sent against me other than just, "all my aircraft I could"

yes I did, in RPing my cruiser, my bombers and a few tornadoes destroyed, shooting missiles outta the sky, and my question is again "could you please tell me how many and what aircraft you sent against me other than just, "all my aircraft I could"
Sorry man didn't see it. I'v got first fleets orbat both in this thread and on my factbook as to coil gun rounds we went over that before um and I don't know if I said missile numbers and type if not ill get back to u on that.

I've seen you've posted alot but I have to ask this...are you another TAP puppet? If not, please tell me where to go to convince myself. Because I'm kinda mad at TAP's puppet detonating a nuke, roleplaying a target of his choice for another nations launched nuke to land, and the possibility of his big almost exhausted of fuel fleet out in the ocean using dang peace talks as a strategic opportunity for his ships to refuel peacefully with out us firing on him. I won't suffer peace talks so he can just use it to do that.

I counter your offer with just one part or place somewhere be designated neutral territory, kinda like a DMZ so we can have such talks in peace while the war still goes on but just not at he neutral area meeting place.

AND no it can't be the pillar or the Barbary islands.

I would say Orleans but with nuclear fallout, entry, skyline, harbor, port, and such not looking too pretty because of the nuke, it dont' look too feasible right now. It was never to be invaded and was to escape the war unscathed-(except for the coastal defenses on the beaches of course and such), but you can thank NOVA the way it is now.

but either way not a dang ship I can tell you, and that includes the PS Roosevelt. anywho that's my take on it.

Remember when the dammed Taliban wanted a frakkin cease fire in Afghanistan during Ramadan because we were winning? lol yeah, such dumb excuses and reasons won't be suffered by me here. However....I only speak for myself in this regard.

well, there are the facts that i was posting far before TAP began to get into II, that i founded and head an alliance with which TAP has had little to no relationship, that my nation is a UN member (only one alowed per e-mail address and ip), that my IC policies are quite different from his, and that my nation has also had nothing to do with TAP until the invasion of Greal by The Peoples Freedom.

as for a place, i would suggest the Hegemony Headquarters in my capital.

The Hyperions joined in with both, firing their own Pheonix Missiles at the traitorous aircraft and using their own carried AMRAAMS and their Airborne Lasers to snipe enemy missiles.


Airborne Lasers to snipe enemy missiles

aint this modern tech? whats next replicators, beaming technology and warp drive?

I'm still roleplaying the intial invasion as mere minutes after I first arrived off the Barabary Islands here, 3 hours haven't passed since I got there, just finishing up and waiting for Dawoads post of his 1st fleets reaction and your reactions in the quiviria mountains and such.

25344 Strike Eagles
19008 Tomcats


You have over forty thousand fighters heading towards me thats right? where did they come from? what direction are they coming from?

P-3 Orions flying overhead where damnright glad. They where so glad the only way o describe it was joy, JOY on MAD. As they detected the enemy submarines, they called in coordinates, and S-3 Viking Anti-Submarine Warfare Planes where dispatched to launch their Mk. 46 Torpedoes against the enemy subs.

288 Vikings each launched 4 torpedoes and boogied out of the area.

and any patrolling aircraft near the Barabary islands would obviously be the first thing I attack when I attacked and invaded them, and they couldn't withstand attacks against fighters unless they had fighters with em so nice try. they would have been attack from being picked up by radar along time ago, but now your're roleplaying them just to magically appear above the submarines so close to my fleet. so close that my cruisers wouldve long time by now shot them down already? agh I'm getting tired of this to be more detailed a map of where I am is going to follow and I suggest others do the same and show where they are in the theater please.

To be clear when I aired my transmission

"Attention all submarine or subsurface combatants and vessels"......blah blah talk about surfacing and such

I wasn't referring or roleplaying any of my subs surfacing you know that right?

I'm trying to finish up the part of thread with Dawoad's first fleet in Tortuga sea and colestream's sub first before I ever react to yours.

and this number of aircraft I think I guess can only come from your 75 or more supercarriers somewhere in vastness of the ocean?

that's an easy escape goat vastness of the ocean so you can just roleplay they pop up whenever and wherever needed. I would think I would see the fleet through my and allied satellites and orbital coverage which if I do recall we did roleplay seeing them, but just cant "literally say where they are in the thread until you do" which I believe your fleet is near and to the south so therefore incapable reaching me without having to go past some other allied fleets and Orleans ans up past the coasts of Lakata?

regardless, bottom line again I say:

You have over forty thousand fighters heading towards me thats right? where did they come from? what direction are they coming from?

Airborne Lasers to snipe enemy missiles

aint this modern tech? whats next replicators, beaming technology and warp drive?

it's MT they working on it right now
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1

yes i know that already its been on the internet for over 5 years now, but there made to shoot down ICBM and yes while in tests they have shot down artillery shells as well katchymacha or whatever rockets, what he roleplay them as is impossible, they would have to be very freakin large planes to accommodate it. and yes I know about THEL laser program which I give more credit to Isreal than US to the technology. but they can't fire that fast at all, it takes time to heat up the ordinance it hits to shoot it down and acquire another target, and its still not operational yet.

I wish the US would develop or at least freakin consider making an arial gunship version of it like the AC-130 Spectre only with this THEL laser program on it but they haven't.

and "snipe" is far from the accurate terminology for the platform.
well at least in my lowly opinion.

and can someone please tell how I can post a picture directly on the thread that everyone can see? i don't know how.

I'd like to post a map of where things are. And I would think everyone should also, cause aside from subs, due to satellites and orbital stuff, no fleet can hide in any part of the oceans other than subs, especially the massive fleets that everyone is roleplaying here.

mm i see yur need to be a very big plant to do it how they RPed it

I wish the US would develop or at least freakin consider making an arial gunship version of it like the AC-130 Spectre only with this THEL laser program on it but they haven't.


mm be nice to see just the tech to fire more then 20 shoots not around or just not ready for sometime

and can someone please tell how I can post a picture directly on the thread that everyone can see? i don't know how.

you mean the one's you can see when not logged in and don't have to click a link to look at, sorry don't know myself

well, there are the facts that i was posting far before TAP began to get into II, that i founded and head an alliance with which TAP has had little to no relationship, that my nation is a UN member (only one alowed per e-mail address and ip), that my IC policies are quite different from his, my style of play is far different, and that my nation has also had nothing to do with TAP until the invasion of Greal by The Peoples Freedom. If i were his puppet, i would have already had the Hegemony intervene militarily.

as for a place, i would suggest the Hegemony Headquarters in my capital.

since it seems you missed it...

Right... unless I'm missing something, I don't think that answers the question: How do you know I'm going to jam the radar before I do it. This brings up another point: you know the AMRAAMS require active radar? And without that, you're basically firing a bunch of high performance missiles that won't do anything.

Oh and also, with your long range radar jammed, I don't think you can pick up the launching of fighters with so many ships surrounding the aircraft carriers. The old Soviet ships I have there would make it very hard to pick up anything as slight as a gigantic 85,000 carrier rocking from a plane launch. That would take time to process.

Bump, TAP

yes i know that already its been on the internet for over 5 years now, but there made to shoot down ICBM and yes while in tests they have shot down artillery shells as well katchymacha or whatever rockets, what he roleplay them as is impossible, they would have to be very freakin large planes to accommodate it. and yes I know about THEL laser program which I give more credit to Isreal than US to the technology. but they can't fire that fast at all, it takes time to heat up the ordinance it hits to shoot it down and acquire another target, and its still not operational yet.

I wish the US would develop or at least freakin consider making an arial gunship version of it like the AC-130 Spectre only with this THEL laser program on it but they haven't.

and "snipe" is far from the accurate terminology for the platform.
well at least in my lowly opinion.

and can someone please tell how I can post a picture directly on the thread that everyone can see? i don't know how.

I'd like to post a map of where things are. And I would think everyone should also, cause aside from subs, due to satellites and orbital stuff, no fleet can hide in any part of the oceans other than subs, especially the massive fleets that everyone is roleplaying here.

I like the map idea if u can pull it off

and can someone please tell how I can post a picture directly on the thread that everyone can see? i don't know how.

I'd like to post a map of where things are. And I would think everyone should also, cause aside from subs, due to satellites and orbital stuff, no fleet can hide in any part of the oceans other than subs, especially the massive fleets that everyone is roleplaying here.


http://imageshack.us/

Or

http://www.photobucket.com

since it seems you missed it...


yeah I see your not a puppet and believe you. but as for the hegemony...I just feel it's all too tainted by TAP and its puppets' presence and isn't even it ain't so....I fell it is..ah how should I say this....biased, leaning, sympathetic, non neutrally inclined but rather attached, stringy, or a little too fuzzy towards the TAP side in my opinion. and I don't like too much the idear of some dang political body...oh well Lefistan is the Supreme Allied Commander in my opinion so I'll go with what he goes.

And I don't necessarily want to go into such things until Leocardia gets back, where the hell is the dang guy? he hasn't posted since frakkin page 18 and its now on to page 26.

yeah I see your not a puppet and believe you. but as for the hegemony...I just feel it's all too tainted by TAP and its puppets' presence and isn't even it ain't so....I fell it is..ah how should I say this....biased, leaning, sympathetic, non neutrally inclined but rather attached, stringy, or a little too fuzzy towards the TAP side in my opinion. and I don't like too much the idear of some dang political body...oh well Lefistan is the Supreme Allied Commander in my opinion so I'll go with what he goes.

And I don't necessarily want to go into such things until Leocardia gets back, where the hell is the dang guy? he hasn't posted since frakkin page 18 and its now on to page 26.

the Hegemony has had absolutely no relation with TAP until he asked us for help in this conflict, and none of his puppets are members. I should think the fact that we did not intervene as a body on his behalf is a sufficient display of our neutrality, as our involvement would have shifted the balance of the conflict in TAP's favor. If it weren't for the humanitarian nature of the Hegemony, i wouldnt have had anything to do with this conflict despite his request for aid. Aside from that, i can give no more assurance of my neutrality than an OOC statement that the Hegemony is neutral, which i have asolutely no reason to lie about.

I can wait for the talks.

my defensive cruisers spec are now located at my factbook.

http://nationstates.wikia.com/wiki/Thon_Nation

from

2 Pulse Class Stealth Carriers
3 Derelict Class Submarine Carriers
1 Slicer Class Mini-Carrier

pretty cool and interesting.

3 Derelict Class Submarine Carriers

what kind of and number of aircraft could a Submarine Carrier hold?
i looked into it but what i found proved to be all to little benefit and that if such things would exist they would hold too little aircraft and not very large ones any how. but that being though only for a Submarine Carriers to have a submersible flight and take off deck but able to have aircraft in hangars or bays for protection from the water. if you can do this thats freaking sweat, or its a pretty big leviathan of a vessel. please do detail more I'm curious.

2 Pulse Class Stealth Carriers

how can massive carriers be stealthy at all? there too big for it unless there made to launch one aircraft at a time or something, please do explain, its made me very curious

:D

from



pretty cool and interesting.

3 Derelict Class Submarine Carriers

what kind of and number of aircraft could a Submarine Carrier hold?
i looked into it but what i found proved to be all to little benefit and that if such things would exist they would hold too little aircraft and not very large ones any how. but that being though only for a Submarine Carriers to have a submersible flight and take off deck but able to have aircraft in hangars or bays for protection from the water. if you can do this thats freaking sweat, or its a pretty big leviathan of a vessel. please do detail more I'm curious.

2 Pulse Class Stealth Carriers

how can massive carriers be stealthy at all? there too big for it unless there made to launch one aircraft at a time or something, please do explain, its made me very curious

:D

Stealth has little to do with size its more about geometry than size a radar profile depends on how much energy is reflected back thus a carrier could be as stealthy as a rowboat.

Leocardia, were you ever going to respond to the 10,000 missiles i sent to your fleet?


OOC: can you send me a link?

IC:

"Sir they are getting in defensive formations."

"Launch 50% of the total aircraft, I want missile defenses on the ready. I want the Air Defense shifts in the front, with the subs in front of them. Full defensive formations. Are we 2,000Km out yet?"

"Yes Admiral."

"How many anti-ship missiles do we have?"

"Approximately 23,000 in VLS sir."

"launch 10,000 target the aircraft carriers and missile defenders as primary targets, all other offensive ships as secondary targets. Order the Ohios to launch ballistic EMP weapons. We have range on your side, use it."

The Mark one Ballistic EMP missile is a traditional Trident missile with a non-nuclear EMP warhead locked in a Faraday Cage that deactivates the moment of "detonation," to prevent interference with other EMP missiles in the area, each has a "blast radius" of about 1.5 miles. 104 were launched

aircraft in air:
1,100 F-18s
650X F-35s
40X Hawkeyes
Last edited by Mokastana : Yesterday at 5:04 AM.

Hey Moka, are you going to self destruct those missiles in flight or are we going to have to have this conflict continue?

i launched them well before the cease fire, page 26, post 387, while you suggest a cease fire on page 28, and leo has posted at least three times after i posted that attack.

i launched them well before the cease fire, page 26, post 387, while you suggest a cease fire on page 28, and leo has posted at least three times after i posted that attack.

You're at extreme range. The decision to launch the missiles was before the cease-fire, but the suggestion to commit to a ceasefire has not yet happened with the impact. And there is a long delay between my posts because Jolt believes that subscription means to send me an email AFTER I check the thread manually because USSNB is IMing me over the fact that there are now 60 billion new posts.

Leafanistan may be picking the no email notification may help you there

Leafanistan may be picking the no email notification may help you there

It's set to instant, which is why I can sometimes reply so quickly and other times disappear for a few days.

That and the fact that I do end up at parties with friends and wake up a few days later god knows where.

It's set to instant, which is why I can sometimes reply so quickly and other times disappear for a few days.
that true you do ,do that

That and the fact that I do end up at parties with friends and wake up a few days later god knows where.

lest hope you don't wake in the wrong county

lest hope you don't wake in the wrong county

*open eyes*

"The hell? This isn't my roof! Where the fuck am I?"

Anywho Moka, long range missiles take a long time to get to their targets, even at supersonic speeds. For the sake of the ceasefire self-destruct them in flight and we can talk this out.

*open eyes*

"The hell? This isn't my roof! Where the fuck am I?"


Tranistria!

Anyway, I am not, Moka, landing troops on the beaches. The troops I have there I am keeping because I cant really pull everything out unless I have a port city, but I'm not going to move any more troops in while the ceasefire is in effect.

*open eyes*

"The hell? This isn't my roof! Where the fuck am I?"
heheheh been there done that

TAP: How far away are your artillery?

This is an odd situation with landing operations coming on the eve of a cease fire and a possible peace as long as we talk.

USSNB has like 200,000 people on the beaches, it takes days to prepare them to leave the ships, it will take at least a day to move them out in full. Therefore, give him some time until the end of the twelve hours. If he doesn't make an IC effort to leave then strike him.

At the moment the RP is paused until Moka either detonates his long range missiles to avoid breaking the ceasefire, or purposely lets them fly and makes the war hot between me and Moka.

how about this, agree to move the forces off the beach for the sake of a cease fire and the missiles will detonate?

how about this, agree to move the forces off the beach for the sake of a cease fire and the missiles will detonate?

That's not my decision, but I am encouraging USSNB to make headway off the beach. Understand 200,000 people takes much longer than 12 hours to move onto a beach, it will take so much longer to get them off.

But he will make an effort to move them off the beach, it just takes a while to pack up all the guns, stow equipment, get ships into proper positions, check the tides, etc.

that works, so peace talks?

that works, so peace talks?

I was asked by TAP (for reasons unkown to me) to hold peace talks, and still wish to do so at the Hegemony HQ if that is acceptable.

sorry guys, been real busy lately, had to see the president too yesterday at Greensburg anniversary down in west Kansas as one of the reps for my unit which helped after the dang tornadoe hit there. It was a pretty boring political crud thing. the drive, gas, and waiting wasn't worth it. anyway I will post shortly

I'm just continuing the long ago post of my invasion to the Barbary islands. Since its not on the mainland, and I haven't agreed to any ceasefire. although after this Barbary thing inital response to it is summed up I think I will.

I however will not leave the islands even if I can, (my fleet is blown to hell and the guys stranded there) ceding of occupied land and enemy forces on your shores TAP is decided not before or just because ceasefire or peace talks are held or wanted but as a result from them and even then not always the case. Since they haven't started that can't happen, although forfeiture or delayance of further invasion and landings is legitimate I agree.

Since cease fire and peace talks have occurred in the Koreas has anybody ceded anything or land? no. Nice timing for peace talks so TAP can gather intel targeting positions, evacuate, maneuver things and better prepare to thwart invasion forces in meantime without further advancement and attack by them.

Do you think the allies would have just stalled right on the beaches of Normandy if they were offered peace talks or a ceasefire with the German machine gunners still in front of them and them still squatted on the beach with their ships still deploying and everything committed? no they wouldn't.

I don't like my navy being destroyed for nothing here guys, (allies) please take advantage of the tactical strategic opportunity here...then go for peace talks....:headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang:.......:D

I'm so lost right now lol. Assuming my fleet makes it The ASD will offer to ship your survivors back to Thon if you would like to agree to a ceasefire.

That would be awesome and I would greatly consider and desire that. But I can't till after the conclusion of the TAPian air response to my initial invasion of the Barbary Islands. and even then I would rather allied ships or my few remaining ones do that instead of becoming POW's even if just in transit on any of TAP's allied ships. But The Commonwealth expresses thanks for your generous offer.

P.S. I roleplayed my fleet almost being totally taken out rather than just roleplaying my defenses taking out all his missiles or my losses being half of what I posted my losses to be to be fair. What about yours? are you going to shoot down every single one of my missiles without a single vessel sunk or aircraft destroyed?

COULD SOMEONE RESPOND TO MY NAVY!

:headbang:

COULD SOMEONE RESPOND TO MY NAVY!

:headbang:

No, because you are ignored.

Could I at least get a reason why I'm ignored? :confused:

Could I at least get a reason why I'm ignored? :confused:

You are one of the worst RPers in the entire game.
Plus, you don't even know how to type English correctly
most of the time on the forums.

You are one of the worst RPers in the entire game.
Plus, you don't even know how to type English correctly
most of the time on the forums.

Now thats ridiculous.....

You are one of the worst RPers in the entire game.
Plus, you don't even know how to type English correctly
most of the time on the forums.

so much for a friendly game.

this war started with Greal, as I remember it you invaded him, so if anyone should be here to support TAP it is Greal.

So by inviting him to your RPs you lose all rights to ignore him.

so much for a friendly game.

this war started with Greal, as I remember it you invaded him, so if anyone should be here to support TAP it is Greal.

So by inviting him to your RPs you lose all rights to ignore him.

OOC: Still though, his nation is still a mess after I've invaded him. He needs to recover more than I do. Plus, his RPing sucks ass.

Even TAP seems to have Greal on ignore too. And I didn't invite him, he just came along.

OOC: Still though, his nation is still a mess after I've invaded him. He needs to recover more than I do. Plus, his RPing sucks ass.

Even TAP seems to have Greal on ignore too. And I didn't invite him, he just came along.

1. TAP did not ignore me, he did respond to the message I sent him, read back a couple of pages in the IC thread.

2. It has been two months since the Leocardian war.

3. My RPing does not suck now.

You are one of the worst RPers in the entire game.
Plus, you don't even know how to type English correctly
most of the time on the forums.

Come now, lets not be rude. Greal may not be the best RP'er on II, but his is by far not the worst, so enough of the useless insults, please.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

anyway, are peace talks a yes or no?

Im guessing no,


also I would consider an invasion an invitation to play a game.

Since this thread is a direct result of that one.

After this initial air response from TAP I will consider a ceasefire and peace talks when a place to meet for them is established.

I don't want this war conflict or regime or whatever to last forever either.

And welcome Greal. I myself have no idea beyond what they say about your RP abilities, but hey welcome anyway, since their is some history with you at the root past or cause of this conflict..I don't entirely know lol.

This is the first thread and first posts I have ever done in my life, so I may suck I as well and be a little too defensive at times, and overly wanting of joint operations though annoying numerous telegrams (:) hey I like communication, it's essential he hee), hell Lef already gave me some RP advice already, but what the hell I'm learning, and supposedly the only person I'm pissing off here is my college friend Eric (TAP) because I'm a traitor, hell he kicked me out of his region. He really loves this stuff more than I thought. thats why he's so good at it. Its all fun and games to me. :)

I just like adding drama and intrigue to the game and cool war plans and such.

plus I'm learning from the technology sides. This war and others seem to be mostly navy, space, and airforce oriented, something with me being army don't particularly study...(I study the antiquated outdated crap of our enemies lol, not so good for advanced modern tech and future tech threads I reckon lol) While I would prefer you not to stay or get involved in this conflict on TAP's side (because all these huge navies, lots of classes of ships, insane amounts of military to todays world scales and such, and that it would hurt me and give me a headache) I welcome you nevertheless. no sense fighting a war, peace talks, ceasefires etc without the country in question not being involved.

It would be like the stupidity of pre world war II when Czechoslovakia was never involved, considered and ignored by the allies and not included in talks or anything to do with its future during the talks about Sudetenland when Hitler took it and the allies fussed about it.
Czechoslovakia got screwed then and it was wrong. So in comparison I'd think it be fair you were involved in this too if you desire, if not military wise, at least in talks so whatever mess that instigated this and was before this can be wrapped up, solved, ended and such.

But, I implore you however good sir, to join us (Burlovia, Northern Baltic, Lef, Thon Commonwealth, Leocardia) the benefits and sportmanship are much better in my opinion.....well except maybe for Dawoad and mokasta.. they seem to be very awesome as well, sportsmanship and the like, but their on the wrong side. he hee.

someone stop or correct me if I'm wrong here by the way


oh and Colestream please remain neutral, your involvement would just extend the conflict. I myself am looking for talks after my Barbary islands thing going on which is ending shortly. an did that one submarine that acted totally unneutrally but rather hostile in fact that fired on me from the Tortuga sea still in the Tortuga sea? or did you roleplay it getting past me already?

and Dawoad could you please elaborate on this "SHIELD" you are useing?

Greal: Out of 950 low flying Kh-55SM cruise missiles, only around 20 hit?

That would be awesome and I would greatly consider and desire that. But I can't till after the conclusion of the TAPian air response to my initial invasion of the Barbary Islands. and even then I would rather allied ships or my few remaining ones do that instead of becoming POW's even if just in transit on any of TAP's allied ships. But The Commonwealth expresses thanks for your generous offer.

P.S. I roleplayed my fleet almost being totally taken out rather than just roleplaying my defenses taking out all his missiles or my losses being half of what I posted my losses to be to be fair. What about yours? are you going to shoot down every single one of my missiles without a single vessel sunk or aircraft destroyed?

LOL no not at all if just been hellishly busy and will finish posting soon If u have any thoughts plz tell me as to losses that is. The sheila is just an anti missile and ew boat

The United States of Onfir has sent 500 troops to ease conflict tensions. :sniper:

1. TAP did not ignore me, he did respond to the message I sent him, read back a couple of pages in the IC thread.

2. It has been two months since the Leocardian war.

3. My RPing does not suck now.

I'm still laughing at the third reason.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13661349&postcount=395

Why does your RP suck here?

1. You clearly said "900+ aircraft" and "300+ helicopters".
Please. We're at a war here. Specific numbers, please.

2. Two months isn't enough to make a navy that big.
Unless thats you're whole navy. I assume, you have no coastal security in Greal's shores.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13675265&postcount=451

3. You fired 5,000 Moskit missiles at once, at no specific country.
Plus, 5,000 all at once? I think I shouldn't be saying anything more...
Especially when 5,000 are all coming out from the list of ships you gave us.

I should have done this awhile ago, but oh well, here it goes
Ship fleet list (my whole bloody fleet)
10 Erschoff Class Guided-Missile Destroyer
180 Longboat Class
5 Pathfinder Dreds
20 Orel Ul'yanovsk Class
11 Stalingrad-B Class
48 Ivan-Rogov Amphibious Assault Transport Ships
172 Pomornik class
24 Wasp Class Helicoper Assault Ships
3 Typhoon Class Cargo Submarines
84 Oscar Class
15 Alfa Class
45 Akula Class
11 Borei Class Submarines
20 Mike Class Submarines
30 Lada Class
43 Krivak Class
23 Udaloy II Class
14 Neustrashimy Class
60 Slava Class
30 Kara Class
45 Sovremenny Class
41 Kirov Class
500 Grisha V
400 Rocketboats (Arsenal ships)

I don't feel like listing aircraft for every ship, so I will tell you that my main carrier aircraft is the Mig-1.44 and is the only fighter aircraft I have deployed with my fleet. I also use the Ka-27 as my main naval helicopter and a mix of Mi-24, Ka-50, and Mi-28s are aboard the helicopter carriers, but the helicopter fleet is mostly comprised of Ka-27s.

NB: I must have read it wrong. Edited

Leocardia:

Aircraft edited

I may not be the best RPer in NS, but I'm not the worst of course, despite your claims, all of us make mistakes. Even yourself.

NB: I must have read it wrong. Edited

Leocardia:

Aircraft edited

I may not be the best RPer in NS, but I'm not the worst of course, despite your claims, all of us make mistakes. Even yourself.

You are the worst RPer I've seen in my life. You don't even RP details. You just send troops firing at nothing.

And to those who are defending Greal, let me ask you: Have you seen anyone worst than Greal? If you did, then I'm sorry to challenge you, if you didn't, then why are you still defending him?

I know many here who have kept their silence, but also agree with me, because I've talked to them.

You are the worst RPer I've seen in my life. You don't even RP details. You just send troops firing at nothing.

I know many here who have kept their silence, but also agree with me.

Keep this in mind.

OOC: come on now, that just unnecesary. Remember Leo, personal insults are rude.

Seriously, cut it out, you arent exactly one to preach about roleplay quality, and your insults are taking away from the fun of the RP.

OOC: come on now, that just unnecesary. Remember Leo, personal insults are rude.

Seriously, cut it out, you arent exactly one to preach about roleplay quality, and your insults are taking away from the fun of the RP.

I am not sorry. I just can't let myself sit here and let another bad RP come out from Greal with everyone just waiting for someone to speak out against his horrible skills. I need to speak out and let him know that there are people who are ticked off about it.

so Greal isn't the best, its a game, get over it. Ask him to clarify and try to be polite,

so how about this:

deal with it, or stop this RP

You are the worst RPer I've seen in my life. You don't even RP details. You just send troops firing at nothing.

And to those who are defending Greal, let me ask you: Have you seen anyone worst than Greal? If you did, then I'm sorry to challenge you, if you didn't, then why are you still defending him?

I know many here who have kept their silence, but also agree with me, because I've talked to them.

You should see see my RPing last year in May and June. It was mostly godmodding.

I have seen plenty of people worst at RPing then me. I can provide a list.

Leocardia, I don't understand, why did you invade me two months ago if you think I'm the 'Worst RPer".

Do you have any proof that anyone doesn't like my RPing currently?

Jeez, Leo, if you say that Greal is the worst RPer you have seen, then you have not even touched the waters of poor form. Greal, while not as flowery as, say, Bruxella, is not the worst by far. Consider Ryou. He RPs a great tsunami that kills him, and recovers in a month to full strength. Bad? And then there are those who have 5 million people in their nation, and start their first post with a 29 nuke launch at a 3 bil nation. They get steamrolled, and call upon the heavens to save them and godmode. Is that not bad? Greal is by far better than you think. And frankly, Leo, your insulting tone is most despicable. You could at least be polite about it and not spit at the ground in front of him. Your OOC insults are very rude, and are ruining the fun. So please, just either cut it out, or STFU.

OOC or as well: encrypted message to all allies: hey fellow allies, just a heads up here. I thinking what TAP threw at my fleet is nothing. At least according to his factbook at wikistates, he has over 200000 fighter aircraft and he only sent like a sixth of it at me, and knowing his roleplaying of suffering like barely any losses and ridiculously little according to what I threw at him and how excellently I roleplayed it, I'd watch out. this is what is on his factbook.

Air Force
[edit] Organization

Group: 2 Wings (288 Aircraft)
Wing: 6 Squadrons (144 Aircraft)
Squadron: 24 Aircraft
Flight: 4 Aircraft or 6 Airships

[edit] Composition

* 221 F-22 Raptor Fighter Groups
* 88 F-15E Eagle Fighter Groups
* 309 F/A-18E Super Hornet Fighter Groups
* 22 F-CK-18 Ching-Kuo Fighter Groups
* 66 F-14 Tomcat Fighter Groups
* 15 A-10 Warthog Attack Groups
* 4 Z-1 Hyperion Ground Attack Groups
* 2 AC-130 Spooky Ground Attack Groups
* 13 S-3 Viking Anti-Submarine Warfare Groups
* 42 SH-60 Seahwk Anti-Submarine Warfare Groups
* 10 Mi-24 Hind Attack Helicopter Groups
* 81 AH-1 Cobra Attack Helicopter Groups
* 40 AH-1W Cobra Attack Helicopter Groups
* 61 AH-64D Apachee Longbow Attack Helicopter Groups
* 5 B-2 Spirit Bomber Group
* 7 B-59 Star Fortress Bomber Group
* 288 C-17 Globemaster III Cargo Groups
* 72 C-130 Hercules Cargo Groups
* 18 C-5 Galaxy Cargo Groups
* 5 WP-3 Orion Weather Reconnaissance Squadrons
* 71 P-3 Orion Ocean Patrol Groups
* 106 CH-53 Cargo Helicopter Groups
* 62 CH-53E Cargo Helicopter Groups
* 74 CH-64 Cargo Helicopter Groups
* 1 E-8 J-STARS Electronic Warfare Group
* 39 EA-6 ECM Groups
* 9 E-2 Electronic Warfare Groups
* 22 KC-10 Refueling Aircraft Groups
* 52 KC-135 Refueling Aircraft Groups
* 53 UH-60M Blackhawk Utility Helicopter Groups
* 30 UH-1 Iroquois Utility Helicopter Groups
* 11 SH-60 Seahawk Utility Helicopter Groups
* 4 MH-60 Pavehawk Utility Helicopter Groups
* 10 HH-60 Utility Helicopter Groups
* 8 HH-60J Utility Helicopter Groups
* 6 Mi-25 Utility Helicopter Groups
* 25 T-39 Cargo Training Groups
* 26 T-38 Fighter Training Groups

[edit] Equipment

* B-59 Starfortress
* F-22 Raptor

[edit] Navy
[edit] Combat Vessels

* 88 Nimitz Class Fleet Carriers
* 593 Invincible Class Light Carriers
* 2183 Slicer Class Patrol Carrier
* 486 Tarawa Class Amphibious Assault Ships
* 2083 Virginia Class Attack Submarines
* 659 Ohio Class Ballistic Missile Submarines
* 564 Ticonderoga Class Cruiser
* 165 Slava Class Cruisers
* 252 Lancer Class Heavy Destroyer
* 123 Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
* 839 Daring Class Destroyers
* 356 Meko Class Destroyers
* 427 Luda II Class Destroyers
* 539 Haruna Class Destroyers
* 598 Hatsuyuki Class Destroyers

[edit] Auxiliary Vessels

* 115 Coronado Class Auxiliary Command Ships
* 860 San Antonio Class Landing Platform Dock Ships
* 440 Harper's Ferry Class Landing Ship Docks
* 73 Safeguard Class Salvage Ships
*

[edit] Coast Guard

The Maritime Law Enforcement branch, the T.A.P.C.G. contains a large number of vessels.
[edit] Vessels

* 120 Hamilton Class High Endurance Cutters
* 270 Famous Class Medium Endurance Cutters
* 400 Island Class Patrol Cutters

[edit] Aircraft

* 270 HC-130H Hercules
* 420 HH-60 Jayhawks
* 900 HH-65 Dolphins
* 360 CASA CN-235's

[edit] Boats

* 1100 44ft Motor Life Boats
* 1720 41ft Utillity Boats
* 38ft Deployable Pursuit Boats
* 23ft Short Range Prosecutors
* 36ft Long Range Interceptors
* 7000 25ft Defender Class Port Security Boats

with just the aircraft hes flown over his skys already his ozone should be worse then ten times that over Australia in todays world, talk about some massive sunburn and skin cancer for his population lol!

do You know the trails from planes over united states today can be seen from space and do lots of damage?

so Greal isn't the best, its a game, get over it. Ask him to clarify and try to be polite,

so how about this:

deal with it, or stop this RP

How about tell him to change or stop RPing for him?

Why are you always one-sided and not looking at what his mistakes are?

Jeez, Leo, if you say that Greal is the worst RPer you have seen, then you have not even touched the waters of poor form. Greal, while not as flowery as, say, Bruxella, is not the worst by far. Consider Ryou. He RPs a great tsunami that kills him, and recovers in a month to full strength. Bad? And then there are those who have 5 million people in their nation, and start their first post with a 29 nuke launch at a 3 bil nation. They get steamrolled, and call upon the heavens to save them and godmode. Is that not bad? Greal is by far better than you think. And frankly, Leo, your insulting tone is most despicable. You could at least be polite about it and not spit at the ground in front of him. Your OOC insults are very rude, and are ruining the fun. So please, just either cut it out, or STFU.

Or maybe you didn't compare Greal with his bad sides.

Ryou is a nation who is born out of this year. I can see growth in him. Greal is born out of 2007. Thats been a YEAR of constant bad RPs. I'm speaking out to him because if he isn't changing, he won't be changing until someone gives him the idea that his RPs just suck.

My insults are rude on purpose. I've been correcting and telling him when I invaded him. And when I invaded him, it was practically wasting my life because he can't RP a single battle, instead, he gets help from his friends. Sometimes, I just want to see him to fight a real battle himself with complete accurate information and whatnot.

TAP is a bad RPer, but at least he can describe the current situation. And I won't be ruining the fun if you just keep your nose out of this and keep this between me and Greal.

Or maybe you didn't compare Greal with his bad sides.

Ryou is a nation who is born out of this year. I can see growth in him. Greal is born out of 2007. Thats been a YEAR of constant bad RPs. I'm speaking out to him because if he isn't changing, he won't be changing until someone gives him the idea that his RPs just suck.

My insults are rude on purpose. I've been correcting and telling him when I invaded him. And when I invaded him, it was practically wasting my life because he can't RP a single battle, instead, he gets help from his friends. Sometimes, I just want to see him to fight a real battle himself with complete accurate information and whatnot.

TAP is a bad RPer, but at least he can describe the current situation. And I won't be ruining the fun if you just keep your nose out of this and keep this between me and Greal.

You want to see my posts from May, June, July last year? I always spelled lots of the words wrong. Now I at least correctly spell them, and my IC posts are more then one sentence usually.

You know, if you think I'm a bad RPer, thats your opinion. My opinion is I improved a lot from last year. I am still learning.

You want to see my posts from May, June, July last year? I always spelled lots of the words wrong. Now I at least correctly spell them, and my IC posts are more then one sentence usually.

You know, if you think I'm a bad RPer, thats your opinion. My opinion is I improved a lot from last year. I am still learning.

Great... but you didn't need to tell me this, because we have different opinions.

Great... but you didn't need to tell me this, because we have different opinions.

Yeah, you believe I'm the "worst Rper" In NS even though there are a lot worse then me (I kinda want to laugh and cry)

I believe that I improved in RPing from last year.

Yeah, you believe I'm the "worst Rper" In NS even though there are a lot worse then me (I kinda want to laugh and cry)

I believe that I improved in RPing from last year.

Thats fine. You don't need to repeat yourself.

I'm sorry for making a guy like you cry.

Okay, gotta go already. (I didn't cry, my feelings were kinda hurt though.)

Anymore questions about me, send me a Telegram.

Okay, gotta go already. (I didn't cry, my feelings were kinda hurt though.)

Anymore questions about me, send me a Telegram.

But you're a guy. Take it like a man.

Would I be making a fool of myself if I offered to host a peace conference/summit?

too late be asked and nothing been said back to it, so guess no talks

Would I be making a fool of myself if I offered to host a peace conference/summit?


who the hell are you New Chalcedon?

hey guys: (TAP, Leocardia, Mokastana, Northern Baltic, Leaf, TAP puppet who is NOVA, TAP puppet who is Longinean order, Burlovia, Thon Commonwealth)

and minor players, Colestream, and even Greal, and the Hegomony.

Shall we put a cap on how many people or who are and is in this thread? maybe 24 is the cap? after that no one can enter or participate? Currently we are under that and have room for others to join, but I would just feel better that way for these reasons:

1. I never know when and if one is another TAP puppet and I hate investigating to find out

2. I don't want 4 people who never commit to warfare to prattle on about peace talks, thats too much confusing and annoying

3. Who the hell are some of these guys?

4. They flood the posts with unusefullness (yes I know that isn't a word) and spam and never follow through or are terrible nations and roleplayers or just too plain dang new, (this is my first thread and post ever but I'm the exception :D)

5. If you look back "Red American Army" is one of them, and didn't do anything, which is good because if you look at him he is ridiculous, but still added some useless posts that contributed nothing but to the length of the thread and detraction of the game or story or war etc.

6. This war has to got to end and I believe we all don't want some single person coming in and refusing that and drawing it out when they are not apart of this

correct, suggest, advise, agree, or disagree and me let me know if I hit a good point here or not people please.

Currently it looks like this from what I gather:

Agressors:
*Leocardia
*The Northern Baltic
*Burlovia
*Leafanistan
*Thon Commonwealth

Defenders:
*The American Privateer
**TAP puppet NOVA Corporation (used Nukes)
**TAP puppet Longinean order (first post on page 15)
**TAP puppet American Planets (made post on page 8)
*Mokastana
*Greal
*Chemnelki (first post on page 20)
*DaWoad

Useless people:
*Red American Army (made post on page 7)
*Chemnelki (first post on page 20)
*TAP puppet American Planets (made post on page 8)
*Onfir (OOC thread post on page 16)
*New Chalcedon (page 17 OOC thread)

Currently Neutral and withdrawn from conflict but former TAP ally: (he fired missiles and engaged in hostilities against me)
*Colstream

Neutral:
*Lord Sumguy (first post on page 15)
*New Chalcedon (page 17 OOC thread)

only made post in OOC thread and not in war IC thread:
*Imperial isa

unknown side?? who the hell are they??:
*Onfir (OOC thread post on page 16)
*New Chalcedon (page 17 OOC thread)

That totals to an amount of:

*20 different nations
*3 of them The American Privateer puppets
*5 at least, of them useless people
*5 Aggressors
*8 Defenders (TAP 3 puppets included, without the 3 puppets taken out it makes an even 5 people vs people)
*2 unknown
*4 currently neutral

updating in progress....

Useless people:

*Onfir (OOC thread post on page 16)
yur just love that post as if 500 troops are going to ease conflict tensions


only made post in OOC thread and not in war IC thread:
*Imperial isa

yup you making a nice mess that i like watching

Neutral but leaning towards TAP:
*Lord Sumguy (first post on page 15)


i contest your assertion that i am leaning towards TAP, I hold no such bias. NB and Leo were the first allies i ever had in this game. If i were to lean towards anyone, it would be them.

so there. :p