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I thought you were the Navy?

Permission to climb aboard, possibly?

I'm not sure I can join, being already caught up in RPs, but is this still open?

Join up! Make a character and if you want to see some action start out in Tortuga, where a large scale battle just took place!

As open as the open ocean :D

LOL ^^^^

Me? Ih8uwannakillu? Alversia?

oh you mean which players ships

no i'am not attacking player ships, Just NPC Dutch ships to sell loot from

Yes but this not because Ro-zu asked him, I know he asked both of us but I thought you declined it, and if Pat thinks strongly of the Pirate Code then fine with me, Jacob doesn't care about the pirate code.
I HATH RETURNED!
...
Anyway, I don't know what this is all about, but yes, I DID ask both to HELP me kill the guy. HELP. It would be on Ro-zu's honor to kill his attacker himself. He is a pirate, of course, so it wouldn't matter much to him how the man died or by who's weapons, just that he was out of the way.
And I thank everyone very much for waiting.
*bow*

here who you asking ,dam it getting :confused: in this thread

:confused:

I thought you were the Navy?

here who you asking ,dam it getting :confused: in this thread

Here's a little something, way out of time, but fun

Bismark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WxMpt2KwGw)

you asked someone thought you were the Navy
an i'am asking who it was as the time warps are not helpping in this thread

What happened to the Imperial Shadow Empire?

:confused:

you asked someone thought you were the Navy
an i'am asking who it was as the time warps are not helpping in this thread

I posted the Timewarp thing!
:D
Here ye go! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13449028)

Just in case I can join...

Name: Mahmoud Armanjani
Age: 45
Nationality: Algerian
Class: Pirate
Height:6' 0''
Weight: 20 stone (yeah, big guy)
Personality: Devout Muslim, loves practical jokes, large belly laugh, easy going.
Flag (If any): To be posted

Ship Name: Alexandria
Type: 6th rate frigate stolen from French Navy
Crew: 160
Weapons: 22 17-pounders, 4 20-pounders
Picture (If any): Gimme a bit...

Accepted, although your guns are a bit small, my frigate is 5th class and carries 24 pounders

What happened to the Imperial Shadow Empire?

what not to say the ships been sent by the navy to upset them, in hopes for a war with them

and taking loot gets us money to keep the ships in the area with out a base to work from

Accepted, although your guns are a bit small, my frigate is 5th class and carries 24 pounders

Fixed

Welcome aboard, have fun..im off to bed, got some things to do in the morn... 12:22 Am here... have a good one guys.

~ISA

Your ships are months from Europe, and from your flag have a Germanic background. Why would you come thousands of miles to pilfer piddly ships? You should be attacking Dutch ports if that's the case, not skulking around Haiti...to which there are no Dutch ports and little reason for the Dutch to be about.

Dutch ports: St. Martin, St. Eustatius, Curacao, Aruba.

~ Alversia

Oh, brother, the observant Queen of the Caribbean is always correct, gov'na. I have a reef in my flag, like a sail, so the cross of St. George is hidden. You owned up to that.

Now, the rest ya gotta own up to is the simple fact there is no way possible you could have seen that flag before. This is Kitt's first cruise with that flag and as a privateer. I signaled that with him recieving his Letter of Marque. He has no reputation in the Caribbrean.

~ISA

Your ships are months from Europe, and from your flag have a Germanic background. Why would you come thousands of miles to pilfer piddly ships? You should be attacking Dutch ports if that's the case, not skulking around Haiti...to which there are no Dutch ports and little reason for the Dutch to be about.

Dutch ports: St. Martin, St. Eustatius, Curacao, Aruba.

i picked a flag that not around at the time and would be different so it got no background

and in my last ooc post i said what not to say the ships been sent by the navy to upset them, in hopes for a war with them

don't mean that what, i'am doing that now as you noties my last post the ships are near the port and not moved ,as i'am still working out things

months from Europe
well one could take a port or attack it and it be that long for the news to get to Europe and take that long for ships or orders to be sent to go after you


mm with that infor , a idea they could be waiting and hiding after something gone wrong with a attack on those ports and now just buying time till help shows

~ Alversia

Oh, brother, the observant Queen of the Caribbean is always correct, gov'na. I have a reef in my flag, like a sail, so the cross of St. George is hidden. You owned up to that.

Now, the rest ya gotta own up to is the simple fact there is no way possible you could have seen that flag before. This is Kitt's first cruise with that flag and as a privateer. I signaled that with him recieving his Letter of Marque. He has no reputation in the Caribbrean.

We'll you're being ignored anyway so we'll say he hasn't recognised him.

Well, it's only a minor edit to one of your posts to complete it. It'd make a cleaner flowing story any lurkers who are reading for a good piratical adventure.

LOL I could have sworn I posted a note that I just sent you a TG Alversia

Well, it's only a minor edit to one of your posts to complete it. It'd make a cleaner flowing story any lurkers who are reading for a good piratical adventure.

Which post is it, can you remember?

And I've answered your TG

Did people even have poison gas back then? I beleive such thing were not established until around WWI. For the sake of the RP I won't make a fuss about it, but I don't think there was any kind of poisonious gas back then.

There was no poisen in the same way that there were no rocket bombs or triple guns.

Did people even have poison gas back then? I beleive such thing were not established until around WWI. For the sake of the RP I won't make a fuss about it, but I don't think there was any kind of poisonious gas back then.

:headbang:oh yea, ops sry guys, ill change it now:s:headbang:

Can somebody recap some of the action going on for me and where it's taking place?

:headbang:oh yea, ops sry guys, ill change it now:s:headbang:
Please don't, it makes for an interesting effect, and I'm not complaining.

Well Shao had his boats shoot at the tavern under my juridiction and then Jacob and every pirate almost in Tortuga went and destroyed nearly both his boats. Then Shao sent his crew to charge Tortuga and three people, Patrick, Jacob and Mallory (who are slowly falling for each otheer) slaughtered them, now Shao and Ro-zu who the attack was aimed at are having a one on one fight and Shao plays dirty by using poisen so everyone is really in Tortuga.

Well Shao had his boats shoot at the tavern under my juridiction and then Jacob and every pirate almost in Tortuga went and destroyed nearly both his boats. Then Shao sent his crew to charge Tortuga and three people, Patrick, Jacob and Mallory (who are slowly falling for each otheer) slaughtered them, now Shao and Ro-zu who the attack was aimed at are having a one on one fight and Shao plays dirty by using poisen so everyone is really in Tortuga.

Ok, so which ships are currently involved, I'm going to be sailing in from Port-au-Prince so I'll be in the ship action first.

The United Irishman i8s beached about a mile away from the action (Which has ended)

The fights over. It's just those two Pirates fighting it out on land. The rest of the ships have buggered off.

I think the ship action has ended, or at least the fort has stopped firing, don't make them unlimber the guns again, they're a mite testy after being disturbed LOL


The Lovers Bite is NOT in port, she's at a secret anchorage elsewhere about the island ..

How ever Morgan is there and watching the interplay between Patrick, Jacob and Mallory with undisguised amusement.

She's also told Ro to finish Shao, or she will...

And yes thanks Alversia, got you TG

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13448477&postcount=116

Here's the offending post, Alverasia.

.....You beached your ship, Alversia? Are you careening the ship or something?

Repairing damage just above the waterline and, yes he might as well careen her while she's there.

And I'll change it as soon as possible

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13448477&postcount=116

Here's the offending post, Alverasia.

.....You beached your ship, Alversia? Are you careening the ship or something?

The Vainglorious is cruising in all secret-like.

ah, but he has 2, one of wich didnt get its rudder disabled, the other one did but it hadn't done anything to warrent the attack on it.

Oh by the way, the crews on my ships ill proboly blow the powder kegs when your fairly close, such is how suicidal they are:p

I just want to point out here that Shao's ship is sinking, courtesy of the fortress, and if he will NOT be able to effectively sail off in her!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13448477&postcount=116
The Vainglorious is cruising in all secret-like.

I noticed, you planning to launch a Pearl Harbour like strike on us?

in what thread do you actually rp all this stuff?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13438049#post13438049

IC Thread
Here, Metropoly.

Tanaara,

TG broadside!

Fire!

Um, Greston, just letting you know, in your latest post you stated you heard the bomb explode underwater. The bomb is detonated by a fuse, and that fuse would have gone out once the bomb was submerged. Thus, no explosion. Also, your post is a tad late...everyone, including Shao, has already left the area.

I thought he said he left the bomb there and like I said in the OOC post after it I wrote it before the fact they left.

He did leave a bomb there, but bombs of that time go off from fuses, and this one's fuse would have been doused by the water, cutting off the "detonator" so to speak. And I'm sorry that you posted to late, but I don't know what to tell you. Ask Alversia about it, he's the thread creator.

Oh ok I understand thanks I thought it to be like a regular bomb one you drop and it goes off.

So Alversia will you let that post of mine happen?

Oh ok I understand thanks I thought it to be like a regular bomb one you drop and it goes off.

So Alversia will you let that post of mine happen?

What post is this?

The post when I grab Shao's leg.

EDIT: FUCK I DID IT AGAIN!

The post when I grab Shao's leg.

EDIT: FUCK I DID IT AGAIN!

Is there any important Char Development in that post? If not, then there's not much point. If there is, you could work it in somewhere else no?

It was Jacob trying to kill Shao and that leads up to more twists in the story such as his hunting, or if Jacob kills him his crew can hunt mine down! That would be cool!

Well, you would have had to consult Ih8u before killing his character, otherwise that would have been godmodding.
He can still try and kill him, just not here.

Did Reynolds leave Tortuga? Also where is Morgan, Ro-zu, Courboune's guy, and Shao?

Morgan, Ro-zu, Courboune's guy, and Shao:

Morgan - in the tavern

Ro, Patrick, and Couboourne's guy are at Patrics ship, beached for repairs some small distance from the port

Shao - no idea...apparently ran off...

Okay thanks Tanara!

Oh and if you guys want to see a taste of what real pirates do go here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzyjD-Ng09E)

I noticed, you planning to launch a Pearl Harbour like strike on us?

Of course not....


...the Japanese fleet was hundreds of miles of away.

Hope I'm not too late!



Name: Jarvis "the Scalphunter"
Age: 40's
Nationality: British Colonies
Class: Pirate
Height: 6'9
Weight:287 pounds(all muscle)
Personality: A simple man and former slave with one goal in mind: gettin his.
Flag (If any): Flag (http://i1.iofferphoto.com/img/1110009600/_i/5923303/1.jpg)

Ship Name: The Howling Shark
Type: Dutch flute, 300 ton and 80 foot long
Crew: 165
Weapons: 40 cannons
Picture (If any): The Howling Shark has shark teeth painted on the bow (http://www.icw-net.com/aa_SiteObjects/aa_coastalIMAGES/non-GEOspecific/blackbeard/dutch-flute-bbship.gif)

Info about The Howling Shark:
-300 ton
-80 foot
-needs only a dozen seamen.
-cargo capacity about 150% that of similar ships.
-6 16 pounder's
-10 22 pounder's
-4 26 pounder's

Never to late to join.

Accepted apart from one thing
How can a ship like that only need a dozen men? The rigging of each sail takes a dozen men at least.

What type of cannon have you got? Doesn't seem that important but if you get into battle with someone, the type of cannon will make or break the battle

Hey, thats what the history books say: a dozen men. But I've got twenty anyway. Look it up if you don't believe me.

My cannons are 8-feet long, though if you need to know anything else just ask.

See, there's the problem, 18th Century cannon weren't measure in the same we do today. Cannon were measured by the pound of their shot so these are the most reasonable ones you can fit on your ship

2 Pounder
4 Pounder
6 Pounder
8 Pounder
12 Pounder
16 Pounder
18 Pounder
20 Pounder
22 Pounder
24 Pounder
26 Pounder

These are the most likely to fit on your ship without tipping it

6 16 pounder's
10 22 pounder's
4 26 pounder's

A Fluyt can manage with an incredibly small crew due to its revolutionary, for the time, rigging system. However for that many guns, You'll need a lot more men. You'd might get one really slow broadside as your crews leapfrogged down the gun deck after taht you'd maybe have three or four guns in action at a time. Fluyts regularly had 10-14guns.

Yeah, blackbead upgraded his amount to the same as mine. How many more crew would you say I needed?

Well, you would need a Gunner, a Loader and someone to get the shot for each gun

Say 4 per gun?

At 40 guns, that gives you a crew of at least 160, that's without helmsmen, doctors or officers

Righto, I'll add 5 doctors to the mix. But NO officers! :)

Let the rp began!

Righto, I'll add 5 doctors to the mix. But NO officers! :)

Let the rp began!

Captain's an Officer...

More like a warlord...:p

Tabor, I loved the Cthulhu/Deep One reference there.

I'll be beggin' y'all to hold your reactions until me and Greston can RP this broadside before the dogpiling begins. Remember you all are anchored or in various states of repair. That'd take time to come out of.

I'll be beggin' y'all to hold your reactions until me and Greston can RP this broadside before the dogpiling begins. Remember you all are anchored or in various states of repair. That'd take time to come out of.

Relax, nothing's happening yet, Me and Xis are having a meeting nearby. (My Ship's a mile or two away, so there's nothing I can do anyway :( )

I'll be beggin' y'all to hold your reactions until me and Greston can RP this broadside before the dogpiling begins. Remember you all are anchored or in various states of repair. That'd take time to come out of.

I posted my reaction, if there is a dogpile unlike the Chinamen you probably won't get away, I think the only reason we let the Chinamen live was because they were pirates as well.

Aslo guys can I make a second ship only it has nothing to do with Jacob's crew also is Jacob allowed to buy a second boat and have power over the two, which is much like what Blackbeard would do, he had over 3 ships at once I thing.

Aslo guys can I make a second ship only it has nothing to do with Jacob's crew also is Jacob allowed to buy a second boat and have power over the two, which is much like what Blackbeard would do, he had over 25 ships at once I thing.

Blackbeard had three at most, no Navy would let a fleet of 25 ships travel around at will. That would be enough to bring the main fleet out.

Blackbeard had three at most, no Navy would let a fleet of 25 ships travel around at will. That would be enough to bring the main fleet out.

I was mistaken there is was 25 of something else he did, I think it was how many of his crew members had come with him near the end of his little story or what ever you call it. But are you allowed more than one boat?

You are allowed more than one boat but they can't be like 74's or anything like that

Oh, don't worry y'all. I've got twenty-eight gun brig o'war. I'm RPing this close to how a real captain of a ship that size faced with an unnatural number of pirate frigates. A quick hit and run and then a quick skeedaddle.

I don't purpose to sit there and fire more than one broadside at any one ship. That'd be suicide...even more than this actually is.

Additionally, Gres,

Three of the cannons of the other side were rolled over and fired as well. Jacob's warring state of mind came back and he started to scream out commands.


Unless you have a few open gun ports on the other side of your ship, those cannons are more a threat to you than me. Sure, those shells would still be going my way, but an unsecured cannon...well that's the origin of the term "loose cannon" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_cannon)and its definition as reckless and dangerous. Here's a clip of the most familiar loose cannon I know of. Watch Jack's cannon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF0Wk-1ZIpU) and in German if you like (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMvpwK8FL4Q&NR=1).

Without the secure lashing of a breech rope (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_artillery_in_the_Age_of_Sail) (read the process of firing a gun), those cannons are going skitter wildly across the rolling deck and mow down everything in its path.

Ok ignore that part there, I will edit it out, but can you please RP your reaction to my reaction.

I'm apologize if I come off as an oppressive know-it-all, y'all. I'm really into this era of naval combat. Heck, it's what I wanted to do with my life, nautical archaeology, and I'm just tryin' to inform. I've got a sad addiction to details.

I'm apologize if I come off as an oppressive know-it-all, y'all. I'm really into this era of naval combat. Heck, it's what I wanted to do with my life, nautical archaeology, and I'm just tryin' to inform. I've got a sad addiction to details.

I know a good bit about this era too although something is annoying me
You know the small guns that were mounted onto a ship's deck? They were designed to fire grapeshot down onto an enemy deck. Would they have been cannonades or something else?

If you mean the small guns mounted on the railings or in fighting tops, I suspect you're talking about swivel guns. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swivel_gun)

If you mean the small guns mounted on the railings or in fighting tops, I suspect you're talking about swivel guns. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swivel_gun)

That is EXACTLY what I meant! Thanks for that! I knew they existed, I just couldn't remember what they were called.

Cat any time soon can you please RP your counter counter attack, or retreating or what ever that your ships does after I fired upon you.

I apologize, y'all. Bein' the weekend, Work's been callin' me in to pull extra shifts or extending them to cover shortfalls. When I have gotten home, I'm either doin' school work or I'm just so tired that I just slump into bed. I'll get a post up tonight.

Oh...and I think we should make a bit of an apology to Xiscapia.

I was watching Ancient Discoveries on the History Channel after I got home from work and saw something on ancient naval warfare. The Koreans apparently perfected a means of very rough chemical warfare from ships. It was pipe from a burning pot of sulfur ducted up into a masthead figurine of a dragon's mouth. With the right wind, it would disperse onto the enemy. However it was still dangerous the operator during normal use and especially during bad wind conditions.

Also the Mongols, though not known for their navy, perfected a stoneware pottery anti-personnel grenade by stuffing the stoneware pot with blasting powder and iron fragments.

Not word on the trigun, though, but the other two have historical documentation and experimental archaeologists have proved their effectiveness.

Huh. Imagine that.
So, technically, and not very wide-spread, they did have a form of "poison gas" and "grenades" back then.
I didn't think they'd have the gas at all, but I've read several books on the subject of pirates and sea warfare at that time and I thought they had something like I8wannakillu was talking about.

I will be posting in the thread soon...can you give me details about whats been going on aboard Floating Mary, and what happened between the two asian pirates in front of the tavern?

Then i can post...

Shao tryed to blow everyone up then jumped into the water and ran away. Everything is fairly calm on board they just fought off a British Naval ship and Richard and Jacob are planning their route from there. Jacob vowed he would kill Shao and after their trip to St Augestine he will try to hunt him down. So that is it.

Ok, i will post soon...on board floating Mary.

My pirate base (http://www.ascaron.com/gb/gb_tortuga2/screenshots/show_screenshots.php?Bild=20070219_131324.jpg&Nr=1)
Courtesy of Tanara
Posted in OOC thread so I won't lose the link. XD

Huh. Imagine that.
So, technically, and not very wide-spread, they did have a form of "poison gas" and "grenades" back then.
I didn't think they'd have the gas at all, but I've read several books on the subject of pirates and sea warfare at that time and I thought they had something like I8wannakillu was talking about.

If I recall this was sometime around the 1400s that this occured. I'd need to go back and watch the full thing. I was falling asleep during the middle, but I do remember that pretty clearly.

Oh, the rockets are sorta unsupported. There was rocketry by this period, but not really enough to be more than anti-personnel and light-weight at that. The Koreans apparently also used their cannons to launch long dart-like missiles with a reinforced tip and sharpened iron fins. Look up the 'turtle boat" as they call their ships of the time. Interesting preliminary iron-clad and it also had the chemical weapon.

@ Xis, Tanara, and Alversia-

Do you need any more help with shutting down spanish shipping lanes?

@ Corbournne-

Don't shoot! Don't shoot! My guy would be more than willing to take part in the agreement you have with the others in return for amnesty.

@South Thasland
Yeah we do need some help. It's a big fleet, a big operation. Just not too many people. Four pirate captains should be enough, with their respective ships and crews.

Excellent...

Dammit I was thinking of asking but I didn't know how to get my guy into it.

@ Corbournne-

Don't shoot! Don't shoot! My guy would be more than willing to take part in the agreement you have with the others in return for amnesty.

I'll probably chase after Catawba for awhile, I might come back for you. Livinion wouldn't take so kindly to working with a pirate who commandeers a French ship, however. We'll see.

Hey, y'all, found a good map of Tortuga and Fort de Rocher (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=103731551895875938447.00000112ed88d57ac9869&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=20.007387,-72.711082&spn=0.019276,0.028925&t=h&z=15)on Google Maps. They even have a category that marks pirate lairs for ya.

Thanks very nice - even today you can see the two channels in to the harbor

South Thasland - You'll some how have to make us trust you enough to offer you a spot. Don't just expect to be accepted.

Two channels for you big ol'dingys that y'all are running around with. I can take my brig a bit in closer than most of you.

Sadly, the foundations to Fort de Rocher aren't visible.

I was doing a bit of research and found that the Turks and Caicos, just a bit north of Tortuga and in the Bahamas, were pirate freeports at different times. French and English would be the most likely to be operating out of them. By this point with Eleuthera, Nassau (Providence Island), and Grand Bahama starting to exert power, English are most likely to be working out of them...but you never know.

The Florida Keys, though not mentioned has some pirate anchorages allegedly. Key West, perhaps? I do know that after the sinking of the 1622 Spanish Treasure Fleet, several attempts by the Spanish to salvage the silver carried by the sunken ships were thwarted by Dutch privateers operating in the area.

I have a large map of all of the colonies from around then so I am quite good with the geography, and since I love history I know quite some much about those towns. Here's a list of the towns in the carribean:

Cartagena
Margarita
Santa MartaMarucaibo
Gibratar
Coro
Curaco
Puerto Cabello
Caracas
Puerto Santo
Port of Spain
Genada
St Lucia
Barbados
Martinque
Guadeloupe
Antigua
St Kitts
St Martin
St Thome
San Jaun
Isabella
Tortuga
Turk Islands
Gibara
Charles Town
Cat Islands
Nassua
Havana
Florida Keys
Nombre de Dios
Evanglista
Trinidad
Santiago
Eleuthera
Grand Bahamas
St Augustine
Fort Caroline
Charleston
Tampa
Port St Joe
Penscala
Biloxi
New Orleans
Corpus Christi
Tampico
Vera Cruz
Villa Hermesa
Campeche
Sisal
Cancun
Belize
Roatan
and Providence

Those are all of the towns around that time, if you kind find any others I haven't listed get back if your friggen time machine and leave me alone!

Thanks very nice - even today you can see the two channels in to the harbor

South Thasland - You'll some how have to make us trust you enough to offer you a spot. Don't just expect to be accepted.

Of course.

Edit: Nice list!

Oh wait I missed three towns:

Port Royale
Santo Bringo
and Port-au-Prince

Now that is every town in the Carrib during this time period.

~Corbournne and Thasland

Thasland is the new arrival. He's windward of Vainglorious thus has a better position.

Corbournne, you're leeward of the brig, and have to fight the wind to do an intercept course, or just try to stern chase me.

Many thanks.

~Corbournne and Thasland

Thasland is the new arrival. He's windward of Vainglorious thus has a better position.

Corbournne, you're leeward of the brig, and have to fight the wind to do an intercept course, or just try to stern chase me.

Ok, thanks for clarification.

Name:ficord danger(you know it) arulia
Age:24
Nationality:colonist (modern america maine)
Class:pirate (CFL(core for life))
Height:5,10
Weight:160
Personality: cold hearted tactishion he striks down all that opposes him and thinks none the worse for it some think hed mad he just dosen't care
Flag (If any): just a generic pirate flag he finds it get less atention if they get away

Ship Name: the swordchuck
Type:royal sloop
Crew:180 (40 other demons (pirate marines)
Weapons:18 26 pounders (9 on each side)

story: ficord is a young person he got his ship thought a boarding action where he killed the captain and most of the enemy crew in an explosion that potenaly saved the captains life (the sloop was bording the pirate ship) the captain them gave ficord the ship. ficord helped and learned from the pirate until he "fell behind" and ficord was on his own from then on

i hope i'm not too late to this so yeah

~Corbournne

Ya might want to edit yer last post about being in front of the Vainglorious Yer starting from a near dead stop to get up to speed and chase a smaller ship, and the wind's not entirely in your favor.

Here's my read of the postions, y'all. Corbournne, yer the blue dot. Thasland, yer green. I'm red. The wind is in from the south. Dark water is deeper. Lighter water towards sandy color is shallow water.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/jedierrant/VaingloryEscape.jpg

Remember, y'all are frigates with something around a fifteen foot draft, meaning you need at least that many feet of calm water to keep from running aground. I'm using a slightly smaller ship so I have maybe five extra feet but not by much at my size.

~Corbournne

Ya might want to edit yer last post about being in front of the Vainglorious Yer starting from a near dead stop to get up to speed and chase a smaller ship, and the wind's not entirely in your favor.

Here's my read of the postions, y'all. Corbournne, yer the blue dot. Thasland, yer green. I'm red. The wind is in from the south. Dark water is deeper. Lighter water towards sandy color is shallow water.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/jedierrant/VaingloryEscape.jpg

Remember, y'all are frigates with something around a fifteen foot draft, meaning you need at least that many feet of calm water to keep from running aground. I'm using a slightly smaller ship so I have maybe five extra feet but not by much at my size.

Done.

Lookin' that satellite picture again, y'all see that white streak running right under the words "wind direction"? That's extremely shallow water and might be a reef.

Lookin' that satellite picture again, y'all see that white streak running right under the words "wind direction"? That's extremely shallow water and might be a reef.

And you're heading right into it. :p

I did notice that. :P

So you and Corbournne are heading into the wind, with Corbournne trailing. you're the smaller ship, so my guess is you're the faster heading into the wind.

About how shallow is that water? I'm a smaller frigate than Corbournne, I believe, but how much of an obstacle is that reef to me? Oh, and what's the range of some good chain and bar shot? It looks as if i have a pressing need to take out your sails afore you escape...

Here's a handy reference for points of sail. (http://www.spinnaker-sailing.com/lessons/keelboat/quad.gif).

At first I was close hauled to the wind hovering there. In my latest post, Larry brings the Vainglorious close reaching as they round the reef head and then beam reaching as they begin to run just south of the reef.

I wouldn't presume to state Corbournne's point of sail but I'd guess it's close hauled. Thasland, you're probably broad reaching on an intercept course.

If you're a smaller frigate, I'd say you'd have some where between ten and fifteen feet of draft. My brig was originally a small frigate that had an upper deck razed to make her a single-deck brig o'war.

And chainshot and barshot are usually medium range. Canister shot and grapeshot are short range as is double shot. Round shot is the only one that can go at the maximum range of a cannon.

And why would you be shooting at him any way South Thasland?

He's not xhot at you and youre not really a French frigate, you're a pirate, so what care for you to waste your ammo and powder?

so am i acepted or not i have been reading the RPs only but i whant to be in this one

Al isn't on but I'll say yes for him I guess.

And why would you be shooting at him any way South Thasland?

He's not xhot at you and youre not really a French frigate, you're a pirate, so what care for you to waste your ammo and powder?

In my post, I give you a glimpse of Mahmoud's thoughts on what to do-

So, we have a Brit and Frenchie. One's firing at the pirates, the other is not. So are the French accepted here? If I fire on the Frenchie, then I risk angering him and whatever allies he has here in Tortuga. The Brit, on the other hand, is friends with no one here...hmmm, when in Rome...

Am I not being clear enough?

well i'll have only 90 or so crew and 50 "demons" on my royal sloop i'll post in the thread tomarow mornings but i'll need a little leway on my first to get into the swing of things i'll ask the barman when i get in and just jump into events (thought i won't be on tomarow mostly i have church to go to right after school and i won't get to post unless its on my psp) but don't expect me to be that active in the afternoon but on thursday so yeah

AH I missed that - my apologies South Thasland - good enough reason by my lights LOL

I apologize for the evil that I have wrought in posting that second link in my latest post. :p

Corbournne, Thasland, TG shots across your bows.

Rabinastier,

Perhaps a better method to attract attention would be worthwhile post that has no scatological qualities to it.

First off, the plan making is still occuring in the tavern. The pretty barmaid could have only heard bits and pieces of it but not enough to get all the details. Morgan, the Pirate Queen and generally alert woman, would pick up the pretty barmaid's loitering by the decrease of male attention on her and the increase in her jealousy-o-meter.

Second off, pirates love punctuation. It's a little know fact that Blackbeard actually put flaming lengths of slow match in his beard because he thought it was best way to ensure a personal exclamation point about him. Black Bart Roberts was known to flog with a cat o'nine commas any crewmen who persisted in forming run on sentences. And Sir Francis Drake was said to have requested periods be placed in his lead coffin to ensure it sank evenly and that there was no confusion that his life had ended.

One trick I try to use is copying and pasting my post into Word, or any other program that can check spelling. Do I still make typos? Yes, but not nearly as much as I would usually. Putting in some capital letters might not hurt either. I have a barely functioning shift key, but I can (usually) go back and make sure I've got everything as it should be.

Oh, and if you post something, feel free to edit it. If you see a typo, it takes all of ten seconds to fix it.

It's a little know fact that Blackbeard actually put flaming lengths of slow match in his beard because he thought it was best way to ensure a personal exclamation point about him.
Huh. And I thought that was common knowledge if you knew anything about pirates.

I have a book about pirates in general at this time. I beleive it's just called Pirates, and is part of a large series of books about seafaring in general. Dark blue, big but not especially thick. Can't seem to find it at the moment.

Obviously, you and I are privileged to have easy access to scholarly tomes. That particular fact took quite a deal of grammatical research.

And there was me with only the knowledge of History in general to help me, not really my era, I can tell the names and calibres on the main guns of every ship at the Battle of the River Plate as well as what Navy they were in, but ask me what guns a 74 had and I'm f****d :(

....umm...guys, I was making punctuation jokes.

NO!! You never were!?! :P
My God! I never even noticed :p :p

....umm...guys, I was making punctuation jokes.

....umm...guys, I was making punctuation jokes.

Pretty good ones, at that.

NO!! You never were!?! :P
My God! I never even noticed :p :p

Well I was. Period. The End.



*smirks*

I haven't read the thread yet, but I'm already going to say something

Morgan, Ro and Patrick were NOT at the Tavern

Read my freaking posts - We are at the closed and shutterd House of Blue Lights , up in the very PRIVATE library...

And one other than the three there had better prove to me they have supernatural powers if they state they know of our plans.

well you could folow the theory of that the pirates on the ship actualy know whats going own and ficord dosen't know what the deal is just that the basic asumsion is when a few pirate captains meet on one ship (as is seeable by pirates walking into the bar) that they are forming a fleet


and ficord is just rouge like that hes a colonist form northern america that is runing from something thats why he left his home and came to the caribion and he still thinks hes in love with a girl that he met back at where his home is thats why he trying to find some way to some back per say with a letter of marque from the british and a pardon while there at it

i thought this one out

Tavern, library...what's the difference? Add some rum and a library is a tavern with books.

To the point, it's my fault for not paying attention. I skim over posts not directly affecting me.

I haven't read the thread yet, but I'm already going to say something

Morgan, Ro and Patrick were NOT at the Tavern

Read my freaking posts - We are at the closed and shutterd House of Blue Lights , up in the very PRIVATE library...


from what i read they are on one of there ships i don't know for shure (there i go agein) whitch one but there on a ship

from what i read they are on one of there ships i don't know for shure (there i go agein) whitch one but there on a ship

I've taken pity on you and decided to answer to your post, with my FIRST MATE, not my CAPTAIN, who is still on dry land, His crew have just floated off their ship and are waiting for his return.

well you could folow the theory of that the pirates on the ship actualy know whats going own and ficord dosen't know what the deal is just that the basic asumsion is when a few pirate captains meet on one ship (as is seeable by pirates walking into the bar) that they are forming a fleet


and ficord is just rouge like that hes a colonist form northern america that is runing from something thats why he left his home and came to the caribion and he still thinks hes in love with a girl that he met back at where his home is thats why he trying to find some way to some back per say with a letter of marque from the british and a pardon while there at it



Uh, no, No, and Freaking NO again - Stop god modding. I already have you ignored, but don't make me run out the cannon and sink your ship.

Get it straight THEY WERE NOT ON A SHIP< OR IN ANY PUBLIC PLACE

Read my gorram posts.

kk i get it now i have ajusted my corse for what i missed

and there is 3 people in the dingy me and 2 guys rowing

its not god-moding your in a fraking pirate city stuff like this happenes i'm just stating the wasy things work a lot of people use the "ask the bar person" gag to get into pirate RPs it just works you just asked me how it works and i explained

Man shut up.

Oh and Tanara, does Morgan have even the slightest trust of Jacob?

Also do you guys like my list? Oh and on the fact about Black Beard that was an obvious fact, I love history and whenever I have the chance to I study stupid little things about it.

Few quick things really:

"now you where saying where he was,a ?"

It is written as 'aye' or 'eh' not 'a', that is stupid and completely wrong. now one think I would like to say is this, Morgan, Ro, and Patrick are not on a ship or in the tavern and the bar maid wouldn't know where or what they were doing. Also can you please, please, PLEASE, write coherently. I can't understand something like,

its not god-moding your in a fraking pirate city stuff like this happenes i'm just stating the wasy things work a lot of people use the "ask the bar person" gag to get into pirate RPs it just works you just asked me how it works and i explained

That makes no sense and is extremely hard for me to read. Atleast re-read you posts before posting them or Copy and Past 'em into Word or something like that.

have you ever been to canada hes an american from the north.(colonist by the day) we talk like that not always but when we are in plubic i do.

Yes I have been to Canada, I live on the border almost on the New York side, I know that is how it is pronounced but it it is typed as 'aye' or 'eh' not 'a'. Once again it is typed 'aye' or 'eh' not 'a'. Okay, I am having second thoughts on saying yes (sorry Alversia I had to) to your pirate, Amerca wasn't being established to much back then.

fine sorry for trying to get into a role playing on a forum with hope jerk gosh you "vet" types are never any fun you never let any inexperensed people learn anything sorry for everything i'll just delite all my posts and you can all forget about me faking a$$ holesi'm never going on another RP forum agein
:upyours:

If only you said that on the 14th then I could have given you one of the cards I gave everyyone in my school! (I call Valentines Day Hate Day because it is a stupid holiday.)

Asking for minimal coherency in a post, reasonable punctuation, grammar and spelling is not being unfriendy, just asking that certain minimal stadards are met.

It is minimal courtesy to read all the posts in a thread and to accept what is posted as how things stand.

You can not change things just because you wish it.

And not all North Americans have been to Canada, and the way they speak now is NOT the way they spoke back then. America did not exist at this time as an imdependant nation, and things were strained between the French and British in the general area at the time, so most colonist wouldn't have been visiting.

And New Orleans -La Nouvelle-Orléans - wasn't founded until 1718. We are just over the 1700's border.

So if you want to be a jerk yourself, go right ahead.

fine sorry for trying to get into a role playing on a forum with hope jerk gosh you "vet" types are never any fun you never let any inexperensed people learn anything sorry for everything i'll just delite all my posts and you can all forget about me faking a$$ holesi'm never going on another RP forum agein
:upyours:

All I, personally, ask from a fellow RPer are the following things-

1. The courtesy to type in a manner that chows respect to the reader. All we ask for is punctuation and grammar.

2. The ability to RP when things don't go as you want them. You have to remember that all of us here are real people with our own characters. We each have created them and have plans for them. Part of RPing is learning to accept someone else's plot. Trust me, I was looking foreward to a glorious ship-to-ship battle with the Valinglorious, but Catawaba has other plans. I'll gladly accept those plans.

3.The ability to accept criticism. I'm no expert RPer. Look at my post count- 196. I realize that my RPing skills are not always up to snuff, but if someone were to point out something I was doing wrong, I would keep it in mind.

And we aren't all "vets". This is my first major RP. I doubt I'm RPing to the ability of some others here, but I try and we all have fun. Does RPing take effort? Of course. The rewards are worth it.

fine sorry for trying to get into a role playing on a forum with hope jerk gosh you "vet" types are never any fun you never let any inexperensed people learn anything sorry for everything i'll just delite all my posts and you can all forget about me faking a$$ holesi'm never going on another RP forum agein
:upyours:
Aww, that's not very nice now, is it? :(
There was no reason for you to just go and flame us all like that.
I take offense to your saying that I'm not fun.
And if you'd pull your head out of your ass for a second you'd see that we are trying to teach you something, but like so many n00bs before you you shut your ears and close your eyes. I suspect this post is wasted because you are, quote, "never going on another RP forum agein."

fine sorry for trying to get into a role playing on a forum with hope jerk gosh you "vet" types are never any fun you never let any inexperensed people learn anything sorry for everything i'll just delite all my posts and you can all forget about me faking a$$ holesi'm never going on another RP forum agein
(up yours smilie)

That wasn't very nice, do you think I wanted to be flamed? You didn't want to get help and notice constructive criticism and facts when it was right there punching you in the face. I just wanted to be able to read you posts, it made no sense at all. I also just wanted to let you know a few facts such as the bar thing, where they were, why you weren't allowed to go to them, the thing about Canada and America, and many many. Being that you only made 12 posts (before you got all puffy and deleted the rest) you sure didn't follow anything that happened in the story so far.

And I do apologise for being so ticky earlier, I should have not been so ruffled feathers.

Although I suppose it was already presumed because of my lack of posts, due to my sheer incompetence with naval terminology and depicting a detailed naval combat in English, complete lack of notion regarding all those pirate slangs, overall lack of inspiration and having already four more or less active NationStates I roleplay with, I decided much before to withdraw from this roleplay, so I'm justing posting here to formalize it. I will refrain from making comments on this recent incident as I did not see it.

[QUOTE=South Thasland;13472528]
Part of RPing is learning to accept someone else's plot. Trust me, I was looking foreward to a glorious ship-to-ship battle with the Valinglorious, but Catawaba has other plans. I'll gladly accept those plans.[QUOTE]

If you want Thasland, I'll give you a rain check on that nautical slobber-knocker. Just remember you can't gain glory from a fight with me, only vainglory.

Part of RPing is learning to accept someone else's plot. Trust me, I was looking foreward to a glorious ship-to-ship battle with the Valinglorious, but Catawaba has other plans. I'll gladly accept those plans.

If you want Thasland, I'll give you a rain check on that nautical slobber-knocker. Just remember you can't gain glory from a fight with me, only vainglory.

Anyways, yer up, Thas. I put a shot across your bow in warning.

fine sorry for trying to get into a role playing on a forum with hope jerk gosh you "vet" types are never any fun you never let any inexperensed people learn anything sorry for everything i'll just delite all my posts and you can all forget about me faking a$$ holesi'm never going on another RP forum agein

Jesus calm down everyone!

If you want Thasland, I'll give you a rain check on that nautical slobber-knocker. Just remember you can't gain glory from a fight with me, only vainglory.

Anyways, yer up, Thas. I put a shot across your bow in warning.

I know, I'll get a post up soon!

*glances about mischieviously*

We could have that fight once I get around the horn of Tortuga.

I'll fire a few shots and you'll return a few more and escape, then we'll have our running dispute throughout the RP...

Ok, she's up. Hopefully we can get back into the swing of things. Sorry for my absence.

No prob about the absence. We all get busy. this is only a stopping point for entertainment, not our lives

Oh...you do know that the range for a solid warning shot is greater than the range for chain shot, which in intermediary round shot range? A warning shot doesn't even have to get close to the bows. Many times to save solid shot, a warning shot will be fired with only powder. Unfortunate for Kitt's stocks of shot, all his cannons are loaded.

Drat. I knew about that, but had forgotten in my haste to get back in to the RP. Well, maybe my pirate is a trigger-happy captain with no depth perception...

Don't take the blow on your captain, shovel it off on an underling. :p

Be truly piratical, turn on an underling who overstated the range of the guns.

Ah, but think of all the fun I could have with a visually impaired captain!

Even better then! Have a visually impaired captain who hides his weakeness by foisting blame on an underling.

Just curious, are we the only ones continuing this thread?

No. I would, but Alversia, Tanaara and I are planning an attack three days from now in the thread. If no one objects, we would probably fast-forward it so we could get on to the action.

Fine by me.

I have no problem with a time jump, but just as a warning, for inspiration I'm seeing Fools Gold this afternoon. So who knows what sort of mood I'll be in afterwards ...huge EFG...

Livinion and his crew will probably jump in on some of the action, if raiding the Spanish Treasure Fleet is what you're talking about.

Hey, y'all I'll be going out of town for the next six days or so please just consider Kitt and the Vainglorious to have sailed north to the Bahamas. If its not too late when I return I'll figure a way back into the thread.

A short recap for those of you shocked to see the main thread lurching up from the dead:

nothing much has happened.


Okay, the United Irishman has already set sail, going west along the north coast to search out the Spaniard. Everyone else seems to be readying to leave Cayona.

Kitt has blockaded Morgan in her ultra secret anchorage on the north side of the island and is now having a tea party with her. How maniacal of him.

A short recap for those of you shocked to see the main thread lurching up from the dead

Would that refer to me? :P

Either way, I'll get a post up with the glorious Captain Luc Tibou Livinion hunting for the Spanish Trade Convoy tommorrow.

No problem, need to give everyone a bit to get into gear.

And Alverasia, having the signal flags, won't help ya much since ya don't have to latest code books. And you can bet your last doubloon that the Treasure Fleet would set its own recognition signals before leaving port.

Who's RPing the Treasure Fleet? Tanara?

No idea really, Xis. Just goin' off what I know of history.

No problem, need to give everyone a bit to get into gear.

And Alverasia, having the signal flags, won't help ya much since ya don't have to latest code books. And you can bet your last doubloon that the Treasure Fleet would set its own recognition signals before leaving port.

Had to spoil it Cat :p

Did I not mention? The vessel he attacked in the opening post was meant to be part of the Treasure fleet and he captured it, including the latest codes. Any pirate would take them. That's how he knows about the fleet at all.