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Basically this is going to be an RP about Pirates! It will be set in the 1700’s Caribbean, known as the ‘Golden Age of Piracy’ for the amount of Pirates and their appeal. It’s basically about ship battles, nicking loot and other such things.

Characters can be one of several classes:

Pirate (Obviously)

Officer (Royal Spanish Navy, French Navy, Royal British Navy)

Merchant

Privateer (A Pirate hired by a government to kill other pirates and enemy merchants)

If one wants to join, one has to add the following details

Name:
Age:
Nationality:
Class:
Height:
Weight:
Personality:
Flag (If any):

Ship Name:
Type:
Crew:
Weapons:
Picture (If any):

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So, for example, I will start off:

Name: Patrick Reynolds
Age: 29
Nationality: Irish
Class: Pirate
Height: 6’3’’
Weight: 15 stone
Personality:
Noble, Sarcastic, Brave, Good Tactician, Calm under pressure
Flag (If any):
http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff167/mreynolds058/?action=view&current=PirateFlag.jpg

Ship Name: The United Irishman
Type: Fifth-Rate Frigate
Crew: 167
Weapons: 32 Cannon
26x 24 pounders
4 x 18 Pounders
2 x 20 Pounders
4 x 2 Pounders
8x Carronades
Picture (If any):
http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff167/mreynolds058/?action=view&current=TheUnitedIrishman34GunFrigate.jpg

OOC: do we have to be an officer in either the French, British or Spanish Navies, or can we be in others? Like the Dutch?

OOC: do we have to be an officer in either the French, British or Spanish Navies, or can we be in others? Like the Dutch?

If you want, but they didn't have a great presence in the area in terms of colonies and no other country would open their ports to foreign warships.

Name: Michiel Adriaenszoon
Age: 43
Nationality: Dutch
Class: Officer
Height: 5' 8"
Weight: 145 lbs
Personality: Noble, Calm under pressure, Ruthless, Brave, Loyal
Flag (If any): Here (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Prinsenvlag.svg/450px-Prinsenvlag.svg.png)

Ship Name: De Zeven Provinciën
Type: Ship of the Line
Crew: 450
Weapons: 28 36-pdrs on the lower deck
14 18-pdrs and 12 12-pdrs on the upper deck
26 6-pdrs on the forecastle, quarterdeck, and poop deck
Picture (If any): Here (http://www.blueheron.nl/BugsPlace/BugsCellar/dadsart/zeven_provincien.JPG)

OOC: The Dutch had the following colonies in the Americas in 1690's under the Dutch West India Company,

Aruba,
Dutch Guiana (Suriname)
Netherlands Antilles

I'll have a post in a second, give me a minute to compile information...

i my throw in a Imperial Navy ship of the line when i find out the most guns a British Navy ship had in this time frame

Cool, glad to have you both aboard

So, for example, I will start off:

Ship Name: The United Irishman
Type: Fifth-Rate Frigate
Crew: 127
Weapons: 32 Cannon
26x 32 pounders
8x Carronades
Picture (If any):
http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff167/mreynolds058/?action=view&current=TheUnitedIrishman34GunFrigate.jpg

Just a little problem that I see. Most frigates might have 32 pound carronades as says the late Theodore Roosevelt (http://books.google.com/books?id=3DwOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=32+pound+guns+frigate&source=web&ots=Cu7s_7fJ1G&sig=gFQgJShDTIiaqz6jFJTOyR1WjP8#PPA70,M1), but I only know of Ships of Line having 32 pound long guns. Follow the link, it's a great read.

I'll be up with my entry in a bit. But I gotta say, oh buddy, Cap'n Reynolds has to be well hated and well hunted by the Royal Navy. He's got a frigate, mostly captured from them, AND Irish? He's probably got his own squadron after him.

The Golden Age of Piracy is the common designation given the period roughly spanning from the 1680s to the 1720s,

if you change it to the 1700's it's easy to find out about hand held weapons and ships

Just a little problem that I see. Most frigates might have 32 pound carronades as says the late Theodore Roosevelt (http://books.google.com/books?id=3DwOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=32+pound+guns+frigate&source=web&ots=Cu7s_7fJ1G&sig=gFQgJShDTIiaqz6jFJTOyR1WjP8#PPA70,M1), but I only know of Ships of Line having 32 pound long guns. Follow the link, it's a get read.

I'll be up with my entry in a bit. But I gotta say, oh buddy, Cap'n Reynolds has to be well hated and hunted by the Royal Navy. He's got a frigate, mostly captured from them, AND Irish? He's probably got his squadron after him.

Good point, I'll edit it

As for British Interest, I thought that would come :D He'll be ready

The Golden Age of Piracy is the common designation given the period roughly spanning from the 1680s to the 1720s,

if you change it to the 1700's it's easy to find out about hand held weapons and ships

Fine then 1700 it is

Well, the British better steer clear of Dutch interests, lest the Dutch decide to teach them another lesson.

Name: Kitsunekaji Ro-zu
Age: 28
Nationality: Japanese
Class: Pirate
Height: 5,8
Weight: 138 pounds
Personality: Some say is bipolar. Can go from calm to fury, or from kindness to cruelty in an instant. This is actually based on how the man views people. It's quite simple: If he likes you, or things you are of value, he won't kill you. If you annoy him or your moral standereds are not up to his, he will kill you. Cool-headed under fire, when he is not in an extreme he is very calm. He migrated from the Sea of Japan for richer pickings on the ships in the New World.
Flag (If any): Flag flown on sight of prey (http://james-b-roger.deviantart.com/art/Nameless-Roger-02-62112841)

Ship Name: Shikyo, Binshou, Kouro
Type: Chinese Junks
Picture (If any):
Shikyo (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/54/ChineseJunkKeying.jpg)
Crew: 700
Weapons: 100 cannons, 50 both sides ((20) 36 pounders, (10) 12 pounders, (20) 18 pounders, (6) 6 pounders (located on forecastle))
Size: 420 feet long and 180 feet wide
Role: Flagship
Kouro (http://www.atddm.com/junk.jpg)
Crew: 300
Weapons: 20 cannons, 10 each side, 26 by 32 pounds, two bow mounted carronades, two stern mounted carronades
Size: 220 feet long and 83 feet wide
Role: Support/Supply ship
Binshou (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/SongJunk.jpg)
Crew: 20
Weapons: None
Size: 20 feet long, 10 feet wide
Role: Attack/grapple ship

ISENS Thor
Class and type: first rate ship of the line
Displacement: 3,500 tons (3,556 tonnes)
Tons burthen: 2142 tons (2176.4 tonnes)
Length: 186 ft (56.7 m) (gundeck),
227 ft 6 in (69.3 m) (overall)
Beam: 51 ft 10 in (15.8 m)
Draught: 28 ft 9 in (8.8 m)
Depth of hold: 21 ft 6 in (7 m)
Sail plan: Full rigged ship
Propulsion: Sails—6,510 sq yd (5440 m²)
Speed: 8 to 9 knots (15 to 17 km/h) maximum
Complement: Approximately 850
Armament:
Gundeck: 30 × 2.75 ton long pattern 32 pounders (15 kg)
Middle gundeck: 28 × 2.5 ton long 24 pounders (11 kg)
Upper gundeck: 30 × 1.7 ton short 12 pounders (5 kg)
Quarterdeck: 12 × 1.7 ton short 12 pounder (5 kg)
Forecastle: 2 × medium 12 pounder (5 kg), 2 × 68 pounder (31 kg) carronade

Marines armed with muskets aloft
Armour: None, although oak hull thickness at waterline 2 ft (0.6 m)
Notes: Height from waterline to top of mainmast: 205 ft (62.5 m )

ISENS Mars
Class and type: 90-gun second rate ship of the line
Tons burthen: 1,442 long tons (1,465.1 t)
Length: 160 ft 9 in (49.0 m) (gundeck)
Beam: 45 ft 8 in (13.9 m)
Depth of hold: 18 ft 6 in (5.6 m)
Sail plan: Full rigged ship
Propulsion: Sails
Armament: 90 guns of various weights of shot

ISENS James
Class and type: 70-gun third rate ship of the line
Tons burthen: 1,080 long tons (1,097.3 t)
Length: 150 ft 9 in (45.9 m) (gundeck)
Beam: 40 ft (12.2 m)
Depth of hold: 17 ft 2 in (5.2 m)
Sail plan: Full rigged ship
Propulsion: Sails
Armament: 70 guns of various weights of shot

INS Thor
Class and type: first rate ship of the line
Displacement: 3,500 tons (3,556 tonnes)
Tons burthen: 2142 tons (2176.4 tonnes)
Length: 186 ft (56.7 m) (gundeck),
227 ft 6 in (69.3 m) (overall)
Beam: 51 ft 10 in (15.8 m)
Draught: 28 ft 9 in (8.8 m)
Depth of hold: 21 ft 6 in (7 m)
Sail plan: Full rigged ship
Propulsion: Sails—6,510 sq yd (5440 m²)
Speed: 8 to 9 knots (15 to 17 km/h) maximum
Complement: Approximately 850
Armament:
Gundeck: 30 × 2.75 ton long pattern 32 pounders (15 kg)
Middle gundeck: 28 × 2.5 ton long 24 pounders (11 kg)
Upper gundeck: 30 × 1.7 ton short 12 pounders (5 kg)
Quarterdeck: 12 × 1.7 ton short 12 pounder (5 kg)
Forecastle: 2 × medium 12 pounder (5 kg), 2 × 68 pounder (31 kg) carronade

Marines armed with muskets aloft
Armour: None, although oak hull thickness at waterline 2 ft (0.6 m)
Notes: Height from waterline to top of mainmast: 205 ft (62.5 m )

INS Mars
Class and type: 90-gun second rate ship of the line
Tons burthen: 1,442 long tons (1,465.1 t)
Length: 160 ft 9 in (49.0 m) (gundeck)
Beam: 45 ft 8 in (13.9 m)
Depth of hold: 18 ft 6 in (5.6 m)
Sail plan: Full rigged ship
Propulsion: Sails
Armament: 90 guns of various weights of shot

INS James
Class and type: 70-gun third rate ship of the line
Tons burthen: 1,080 long tons (1,097.3 t)
Length: 150 ft 9 in (45.9 m) (gundeck)
Beam: 40 ft (12.2 m)
Depth of hold: 17 ft 2 in (5.2 m)
Sail plan: Full rigged ship
Propulsion: Sails
Armament: 70 guns of various weights of shot

British, French, Spanish or Dutch? And characters?

I tried to do something like this, only with more story to it, a while ago, no one replied.

Name: Captian Jacob Hemming
Age: 46
Nationality: British
Class: Pirate
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 135 lbs
Personality: A strong hearted pissed off drunk, who after being on board a civilian vessel that was boarded started a quest "To kill evy damned ting in me path!"
Flag (If any): Flag (http://pirateflag.homestead.com/rebel_pirate_op_653x400.jpg)

Ship Name: Floating Mary
Type: schooner
Crew: 74
Weapons: 15 cannons, 69 muskets, 74 cutlasses, 85 Flintock pistols, and random daggers of the sort.
Picture (If any): Picture (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/14/RTuckerThompson-s.JPG)

British, French, Spanish or Dutch? And characters?

Imperial as it be wise to have one NS nation, and no characters as i'am only given rank and ship they from when you talk to someone

Imperial as it be wise to have one NS nation, and no characters as i'am only given rank and ship they from when you talk to someone

Please, man, proof read your sentences, I can't understand a thing you type. TYPE COHERENTLY!

Imperial as it be wise to have one NS nation, and no characters as i'am only given rank and ship they from when you talk to someone

Imperial what? There has to be a country behind the name or are we to refer to you as 'That plot of soil somewhere in the middle of nowhere were all the big-ass ships are coming to kill us all from'?

Imperial what? There has to be a country behind the name or are we to refer to you as 'That plot of soil somewhere in the middle of nowhere were all the big-ass ships are coming to kill us all from'?

hey that funny

*mixs name up*

Imperial Shadow Empire and ships be all black and now to change front part to ISENS Thor

Name:Zachary freemendows
Age:21
Nationality:British
Class:Privateer
Height:5"11
Weight:168
Personality:calm,likes to make jokes and is "known to play with his pray", got the job after some pirates killed his father so he has a personal hatred of pirates (he only became one himself to get the job)
Flag (If any):http://zachman64.deviantart.com/art/pirate-flag-76763311

Ship Name:the golden pigeon
Type:brigantine
Crew:146
Weapons:18 30ft 18 pound canons (sorry about that got the info wrong <)
Picture (If any):http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/6423/Ships/brigantine.jpg

150ft cannon? That's longer than my entire ship! and 88 of them in a brigantine? Unlikely

thing would never float

Oi, y'all...some of the things put down here just won't fly with me. I'm a stickler for historical details.

Obvious is the 88 150ft cannons on the Brig Golden Pigeon. GZ, here's a pretty good article on Brigs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brig) where are brigantines for all purposes beside name and minor design details.

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Greston, this is the late 17th century to the early 18th century. The United States hasn't been founded yet, and Samuel Colt won't be born for nearly another hundred years and won't create the first Colt pistol until 1836. Flintlocks muksets and pistols are the highest form of firearm available. Percussion cap weapons (America Civil era) won't be developed until 1831.

Otherwise, you did a great job. A true pirate be ye.

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Xiscapia, being an Oriental pirate in the Carribean is a strike against you. You'll never blend in. You could never pass yourself as anything because you would be the only Oriental these people knew to be operating in the area and in fact probably the only one they'd ever seen.

Junks would be even worse. They literally would know you were coming a mile away. And for a pirate...they're huge. You'd never be able to run down a small merchant men with your flagship or your support ship (yer flagship ought to have a whoppin' nine masts). Your small ship ought to work but that's about it. Anyways the local naval powers will definitely want you dead as bad or worse than Captain Reynolds. You'd have a big ship, a fleet, and you're a 'heathen chinaman' to them.


This ain't my thread, I know. But I gotta know before I put effort into making my captain and ship, is this nearly historical with a few liberties taken for fun? Or a rip-roaring alternate history more like Pirates of the Carribean then the real world?

Name: Mateu d'Aires
Age: 32
Nationality: Portuguese
Class: Privateer; 'Employed' by the British Empire.
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 174 Lbs
Personality: Rebellious, stern, and over the top. Likes a good drink, however can be extremely serious and levelheaded when need-be.
Role: Captain of 'O Súcubo Preto'. Due to his rebellious nature, his family has been 'interned' until his "debt is payed".
Flag (If any): Here (http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/5166/privmd8.png)

Name: Sir Henry Blake
Age: 25
Nationality: British
Class: British Naval Officer
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 165 Lbs
Personality: Somewhat of a wisecrack. Being his position over the Captain, he acts out in a way of subtle arrogance. Spontaneous and Naive, however cool and calm.
Role: Lieutenant of the British Royal Navy. Assigned to oversee the Privateer Ship O Súcubo Preto, and her Captain and Crew.
Flag (If any): Here (http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5373/250pxnavalensignoftheuned9.png)

Ship Name: O Súcubo Preto
Type: Barque
Crew: 90; 75 Privateers including the Captain, 14 Royal Marines, and of course Blake.
Weapons: 12 Cannons; no particular weight in shot.
Picture (If any): None at the moment.

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The Pirate Flag was the best I could do with Paint :(.

"Who'll make his mark?." The captain cried. "To the Devil drink a toast." She raised a beaten gold goblet of fine spanish workmanship, adorned with emeralds and splendid pearls, filled to the brim with fiery rum, and drank it down in oine long draught. "We'll glut the hold with cups of gold and we'll feed the sea with ghosts. I see your hunger for a fortune, could be better served beneath my flag." Her flag was legendary, black as sin with a white wolf's head against a crimson moon above a pair of silver sabers.
Name: Captain Black Morgan; Morgan ap' Vargskol; Black Morgan the wolf's head...Gwenevere Dhu' Morgainne ap' Vargskol ( yes female, I won't say that she's a lady, she's Not!)
Age: 25
Nationality: welch...norse...does it matter? .
Class: Claims to be Privateer, more likely just another bloody Pirate
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 165 well built, and doesnt bother to hide the fact that she's female
Personality: ruthless, smiles easily but it seldom reaches his eyes, can be reckless, has his own code of honour
Picture: Gueneviere 'Black" Morgan ap Vargskol (http://www.atddm.com/20.jpg)
Flag :http://www.atddm.com/mflag.jpg

Ship Name: Lovers Bite
Type:Modified Friggate/pre Transit variant/'full rigged' ship
fine lines at bow and stern, uniform frames mid-ships with concave and convex sweeps and a deep keel. Length to beam ratio is unusually high, giving a remarkable turn of speed. The foremast is square rigged while the other three masts fore and aft rigged, barquentine fashion but carrying very simplified standing and running rigging. Each sail has a diagonal sprit that enabled it to be brailed up to its mast and deployed rapidly. Each mast carries three sails. The topmasts can be lowered and replaced from the deck. In the event that the sprits fail in strong gales and have to be abandoned, the novel form of rigging allows almost all activities normally conducted aloft to be performed from the deck -including the replacement of damaged masts. Copper sheathed over hard aged white oak mounted with copper/zinc boldts( rather than iron

Length[/B]: 130 feet length to beam ration of 4.5:1 - fast, very fast
Displacement: about 200 tonnes
Crew: 150 - mixed gender, roughtly 70% male to 30% female, but the women are rougher and tougher than the men, they have to be...
Guns :
26 Cannon ( 24 pounders ) - gun deck, 13 each side
10 Carronades (32 pounders) -main deck, 5 each side
2 Stern Chase Guns (24 pounders ) - gun deck
1 Bow Chase Gun ( 24 pounder ) - gun deck
9 Swivel Guns - main Deck -Swivel Gun - a small piece of ordnance, turning on a point or swivel. 33 inches in overall length,bore diameter 1¼ inches - ¾ pound balls and would be wedged in place to use for anti-personnel fire. The swivel gun was used for signaling and salutes.

Picture:Lovers Bite (http://www.atddm.com/hmaster.jpg)
Other weapons
Lots of cutlass, assorted other swords, countless daggers, pistoles, a few crossbows, and a number of D&S guns- well made smoothbore, flintlock rifles of British make in .70 caliber with barrels reaching seven feet - very accurate for moving targets

I'm going to have to weigh in with Catawaba on all counts,

BUT like he said not my game, but I'll just run - from ALL of you my ship can out run even the frigate ( well him by just a little - but the rest of ya? show you my heels will I!)

And the only non historical is my ship is a never actually build mongrel ( much like my captain)

And I know a llitle bit about this subject, as my persona in the SCA is that of a pirate of the very late 1600's /early 1700's ( yeah I can't do a modern navy for the life of me, but give me a tall ship and a star to sail her by, and I'll cross yer 'T' an' then gi' ye one up the kilt too boot! )

I can assure you, this will be near enough historically accurate with a few liberties taken, like a Junk in the Caribbean (Spices things up, I reckon)

Name: Dan O'reily
Age: 40
Nationality: Irish (gotta love em)
Class: Pirate
Height: 6"6
Weight: 14 stone
Personality: Cunning, always pissed as hell, brave, has a strong hatred of the english (i wonder why)
Flag (If any):

Ship Name: Legionaire
Type: Military Frigate
Crew: 153
Weapons: 30 cannon ( 24x 12 pounders and 6x 18 pounder corronades)
Picture (If any):

Another Irishman! :D

Name: Captain Jonas Harlan
Age: 35
Nationality: British
Height: 5'11''
Weight: 174lbs
Hair: Dark Brown, log sideburns
Personality: Calm, reserved, witty
Ship: (Still thinking of name)

Another Irishman! :D


Is that ok? i have no probs changing :)

Nah, it's cool. Just good to have another amongst us

Nah, it's cool. Just good to have another amongst us


Excellent :) maybe we could form an alliance and smash some pommy skulls :headbang:

Perhaps, sounds like a good Idea

So when do we start this?

As to my Junk, I've been thinking: It wouldn't do to actually sail it anywhere, for previously mentioned points so kindly put out by Catawaba. It may only serve as a "base of operations" so to speak, anchored off some little island in the middle of nowhere. As to being easily recognizable, I'm not real worried, not when there's a women and two Irishmen also running around.
Perhaps I should also cut down the size of my main support vessal?

Tomorrow at the latest, I have to work tonight and tomorrow, So I'll see what I can do.

(I'd also point out that my character is Japanese, not Chinese, and why he's got a whole junk will be explained in the thread, but this bunch of Europeans probably can't tell two Asians apart anyway.)

Tomorrow at the latest, I have to work tonight and tomorrow, So I'll see what I can do.

no worries:)

Uh-huh. Japanese and Chinese tend to take it highly offensive if you refer to one of them as the other.

I'm not real worried, not when there's a women and two Irishmen also running around.
the a deadly mix there
( but this bunch of Europeans probably can't tell two Asians apart anyway.)

really

Uh-huh. Japanese and Chinese tend to take it highly offensive if you refer to one of them as the other.

Grapeshot, Chain-shot and Round shot don't care they both the same to them :p

Now having one or two of those monster junks moored off an tiny island isn't a half bad idea..and has some one ele been wondering what happend to that Chinese Admiral that sailed his fleet off ( yes a couple of hundred large junks IIRC ) round the world at his Emperors request- with a huge store of gold, jewlery etc aboard no less - and disappeared.

Any who know of the treasure supposedly hidden in the depths of Oak Island also might know that some of the further out theories claim that some of that treasure is what is at the bottom of the infamous Money Pit

Have I also mentioned that I have a great interest un just such weirdnesses...?;)

and actually this can be the basis...


Six centuries ago, a mighty armada of Chinese ships crossed the China Sea, then ventured west to Ceylon, Arabia, and East Africa. The fleet consisted of giant nine-masted junks, escorted by dozens of supply ships, water tankers, transports for cavalry horses, and patrol boats. The armada's crew totaled more than 27,000 sailors and soldiers. The largest of the junks were said to be over 400 feet long and 150 feet wide. (The Santa Maria, Columbus's largest ship, was a mere 90 by 30 feet and his crew numbered only 90.)

Loaded with Chinese silk, porcelain, and lacquerware, the junks visited ports around the Indian Ocean. Here, Arab and African merchants exchanged the spices, ivory, medicines, rare woods, and pearls so eagerly sought by the Chinese imperial court.

Seven times, from 1405 to 1433, the treasure fleets set off for the unknown. These seven great expeditions brought a vast web of trading links—from Taiwan to the Persian Gulf—under Chinese imperial control. This took place half a century before the first Europeans, rounding the tip of Africa in frail Portuguese caravels, 'discovered' the Indian Ocean.

Despite the strength and prosperity that marked their empire, Ming emperors deliberately chose not to try to colonize lands beyond the Middle Kingdom.
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With unrivaled nautical technology and countless other inventions to their credit, the Chinese were now poised to expand their influence beyond India and Africa. Here was one of history's great turning points. Had the Chinese emperors continued their huge investments in the treasure fleets, there is little reason why they, rather than the Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch and British, should not have colonized the world. Yet less than a century later, all overseas trade was banned, and it became a capital offense to set sail from China in a multi-masted ship. What explains this astonishing reversal of policy?

Roots of Chinese seapower
The first Chinese oceangoing trade ships were built far back in the Song dynasty (c. 960-1270). But it was the subsequent Mongol emperors (the Yuan dynasty of c. 1271-1368) who commissioned the first imperial treasure fleets and founded trading posts in Sumatra, Ceylon, and southern India. When Marco Polo made his famous journey to the Mongol court, he described four-masted junks with 60 individual cabins for merchants, watertight bulkheads, and crews of up to 300.

When the Han Chinese overthrew the Mongols and founded the Ming dynasty in the later 14th century, they took over the fleet and an already extensive trade network. The enterprising spirit of the Ming era reached a climax following the rebellion of the warrior prince Zhu Di, who usurped the throne in 1402. Disapproved of by the Confucian "establishment," Zhu Di put his trust in the worldly eunuchs who had always sought their fortunes in commerce. During his revolt, Zhu Di's right-hand man had been the Muslim eunuch Zheng He, whom he now appointed to command the treasure fleet.

At the start of the first of Zheng He's epic voyages in 1403, it is said that 317 ships gathered in the port of Nanjing. As sociologist Janet Abu-Lughod notes, "The impressive show of force that paraded around the Indian Ocean during the first three decades of the 15th century was intended to signal the 'barbarian nations' that China had reassumed her rightful place in the firmament of nations—had once again become the 'Middle Kingdom' of the world."


Zheng He's ships, as depicted in a Chinese woodblock print thought to date to the early 17th century.
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Treasure junks: fact or fiction?
The Ming account of the voyages that followed strains credulity: "The ships which sail the Southern Sea are like houses. When their sails are spread they are like great clouds in the sky." Were the reported dimensions of the biggest galleons—over 400 feet long by 150 wide—gross exaggerations? If accurate, these dimensions would signal the biggest wooden ships ever built. Only the mightiest wooden warships of the Victorian age approached these lengths, and several of these vessels suffered from structural problems that required extensive internal iron supports to hold the hull together. No such structures are reported in the Chinese sources.

However, in 1962, the rudderpost of a treasure ship was excavated in the ruins of one of the Ming boatyards in Nanjing. This timber was no less than 36 feet long. Reverse engineering using the proportions typical of a traditional junk indicated a hull length of around 500 feet.

Unfortunately, other archeological traces of this "golden age" of Chinese seafaring remain elusive. One of the most intensively studied wrecks, found at Quanzhou in 1973, dates from the earlier Song period; this substantial double-masted ship probably sank sometime in the 1270's. Its V-shaped hull is framed around a pine keel over 100 feet long and covered with a double layer of intricately fitted cedar planking, thus clearly indicating its oceangoing character. Inside, 13 compartments held the residue of an exotic cargo of spices, shells, and fragrant woods, much of it originating in east Africa (see Asia's Undersea Archeology).

The Quanzhou wreck suggests that over a century before Zheng He's fabled voyages, the Chinese were already involved in ambitious trading exploits across the Indian Ocean. Even back then, their sturdy ships equaled the largest known European vessels of the period. By inventing watertight compartments and efficient 'lugsails' that enabled them to steer close to the wind, Chinese shipbuilders remained ahead of the west in the following centuries.

Oi, y'all...some of the things put down here

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Greston, this is the late 17th century to the early 18th century. The United States hasn't been founded yet, and Samuel Colt won't be born for nearly another hundred years and won't create the first Colt pistol until 1836. Flintlocks muksets and pistols are the highest form of firearm available. Percussion cap weapons (America Civil era) won't be developed until 1831.

Otherwise, you did a great job. A true pirate be ye.

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YARRGHHH! I was basing me ship upon the story by me dear ol' frein Robert Louis Stevenson. Arghhhh, he wrote that ding there during the American Civil War, should've reckoned that. Be they rifles though, not muskets then, as for the Colt pistols, make them pistols! Now I'd be done!

-snip-
Glad you feel the idea is more or less sound. :p
I know what I read from my history textbook + Wikipedia, and in the text is said junks were about 400 feet long. I immediatly visualized a massive warship, and was rather dissapointed when I was told that they were used as cargo ships. Then I said, hell with it, paddy's making a pirates RPG, I'm going to have a junk with guns godsdamnit!
So here I am. Not one for much realism, as you can probably tell. ;)

Catawaba's post of obessive compulsive-ness, now with authentic piratical translation for the landlubberly-impaired!

~Alversia,

Thanks for the clarification. I'll get right on puttin' my crew together.

Thankee fer the kind word an' claree-fic-shun, gov'na. Yo ho, me hearties! 'Hoo among ya got the 'earts o'oak and taste fer blood in yer gizzard?! The cap'n be out fer wenches and fair bit o'Dago shine. Be ye man 'nuff? All hands 'fore the mast, ya dogs!


~ Xiscapia,

Using the big junk as some base or keeping it just over the horizon to support the other ships against any naval vessel would be a great idea and strategy. It's up to you, but I'd go with the smaller intermediate ship, remember your prey is likely to be half that size and fairly fast and agile.

Oh, I know that yer character is Japanese, but no one else will. Only the Dutch would have any recognition of your nationality as they were the only ones really trading out that far. Everybody else will think yer chinese, I mean you sailing junks.

An' thar be yer pre-dick-a-mint, mate. Ain't ne'er seen a chinaman, boot ya sure step ta a chinaman's fiddle...yarrrr.

~Tanara,

Umm...you sure those 32 pounders aren't flipped with your 18 pound carronades? If you've got a source to say that's a normal source correct me, but I've never heard of a frigate with 32 pound long guns.

Yarr..cannae 'spect a wench to reckon'er long nines from'er cannonades any'ow...ye best get ye back to tavern, wench!

~ Xiscapia,

Using the big junk as some base or keeping it just over the horizon to support the other ships against any naval vessel would be a great idea and strategy. It's up to you, but I'd go with the smaller intermediate ship, remember your prey is likely to be half that size and fairly fast and agile.

Oh, I know that yer character is Japanese, but no one else will. Only the Dutch would have any recognition of your nationality as they were the only ones really trading out that far. Everybody else will think yer chinese, I mean you sailing junks.

An' thar be yer pre-dick-a-mint, mate. Ain't ne'er seen a chinaman, boot ya sure step ta a chinaman's fiddle...yarrrr.
I think I'll be cutting down on the size of the support vessal, what do you think would be the ideal ship size and gun size for such a vessal? I'm not trying to challenge you or anything, I honestly want to know.
Technically the Brits made it over there too, but they were banned from trading because they refused to bow and knock their foreheads against the ground nine times before the emperor. But I realize that they'll all think I'm Chinese, so...guard your dogs. (Huge general misconception, but I couldn't resist).

Name: Antonio Silva
Age:35
Nationality:Portugese
Class:Privateer
Height:6'4"
Weight:167 lbs
Personality:Known for hysteric antics, followed by violent outbursts, cruel, well humored, sardonic, intelligent, calculating
Flag (If any):N/A (flies flag of current employer)

Ship Name: Malus Mortem
Type: Gunboat
Crew: 250
Weapons:25 Cannon, 10 carronades
Picture (If any):http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/ignigtnok/tunisia-pirate-ship.jpg

http://www.caribbeanmag.com/maps/EasternCaribbeanMap.jpg
This is the map I was thinking of using
(Do you know how difficult it is to find a map of the 18th Century caribbean?)

~Tanara,

Umm...you sure those 32 pounders aren't flipped with your 18 pound carronades? If you've got a source to say that's a normal source correct me, but I've never heard of a frigate with 32 pound long guns.

Yarr..cannae 'spect a wench to reckon'er long nines from'er cannonades any'ow...ye best get ye back to tavern, wench!

Correct, Frigates carried nothing bigger than an 18 Pounder (The recoil of a broadside anything bigger would roll the ship)

Looks at Al and snickers...ah yes I do, and Getting one on line is even harder - me and my scanner have deep differences of opinion. As it is something mechanical, and I am not so talented, it wins...

Here's a very Large Map ( not dial up friendly ) that you are welcome to use/ link to:

Carribe Map landsat and normal (http://www.faefolk.info/carribe.jog)

I just use modern ones and remember that Port Royal - The "pirate haven", isn't really there any longer, having felt the rough hand of the deity in the form of an earthquake that sank said city in to Kingston Habror in 1692

I do hope that for the fun of gaming you will say that such never happened - Porty Royal is just too fun to pass up!

And I've find info on frigates carrying 24 pounders...and this is not a straight frigate

The 24-pound guns each required a gun team of 6-14 men to operate and weighed about 5600 pounds. They are called 24-pounders because they fired a cannonball that weighed 24 pounds. Although the solid 24 pound shot is what was commonly used, the guns could be loaded with a combination of projectiles. The long gun possessed one great advantage: it could far outrange the carronade, and if well operated had a chance of crippling the enemy before coming to close quarters.

The normal gunpowder charge used for these guns was six pounds and their maximum range was about one mile at maximum elevation, but due to inaccuracy at that range this was literally a "long shot." The maximum effective range of a 24-pounder was about 1200 yards. The usual engagement range, however, was much closer. CONSTITUTION engaged HMS Guerriere in 1812 at about 25 to 50 yards. At this range CONSTITUTION's guns could do terrible damage, with her cannonballs penetrating over two feet of oak planking.

The 32-pounder Navy gun [length 112 inches, 57 hundredweight] was intended service was on first class frigates and ships of the line

Fair enough

As for the Port Royal, I will add some sort of the port like (Maybe Tortuga) where pirates can go and mess about in safety. I'll be fun.

Xis, how about a 130-150ish foot tri masted junk like this?

http://www.atddm.com/junk.jpg

(ok i fixed it)

Xis, how about a 130-150ish foot tri masted junk like this?

http://www.atddm.com/junk.jpg
Sexy, but can it be equipped with guns? I need a ship small enough to run down (or potentially outrun) other ships, but large enough to support a sufficant amount of cannons to take down another ship.
Alversia, are we using your map or Tanaras?

Xis, if you look closely there are gun ports on the main deck - thats where all junks had them as far as I have been able to determine. I see gun ports for five pair per side, so that could be 20 cannon or carronades in broad side and there is certainly room for a pair of pairs in the stern and a pair in the bow, just look at that wonderful gun platform that broad prow makes!

Name: Catalina Erantzo
Age: 33
Nationality: Spanish
Class: Pirate
Height: 1.64
Weight: 52 kg
Personality(And More):

Advantages: Natural Charisma, Strong Will, Concentration, "Ethical Flexibility", Friendliness, Good Liar.
Disadvantages: Scotophobia(Fear of the Dark), Aggressiveness, Sense of Duty: Crew, Talks too much, Daredevil, Narcissistic.
Social Disadvantages: Social Stigma - Woman, Social Stigma - Excommunicated, Social Stigma - Exiled, Powerful Enemy - Spanish Inquisition*, Powerful Enemy - The Invincible Armada.
Social Advantages: Reliable Contact(Iberian Underworld)
Quirks: Small Frame - Thinner and shorter, but also more agile than other people, Bloody Mess - For a twist of fate, people fighting near her tend to die is the most gruesome way possible*

Flag (If any): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Eat_the_rich_symbol.png

Ship Name: Rebelión
Type: Xebec
Crew: 320
Weapons: 4 long 9s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_artillery_in_the_Age_of_Sail#Long_Nine), 4 32-pounder carronades and 8 18-pounder cannons
Picture (If any): http://cossacks.heavengames.com/images/units/pix/_Ship_Xebec.jpg

*Not sure if it still was around by then.
*As a Fallout fan, hope there is no problem on taking this "Perk" with my character.

Name: Christopher "Kit" Gunasontree
Age: 20
Nationality:English
Class: Privateer (Captain)
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 11 stone
Personality: Ambitious, idealistic, loyal to England, mischievious, clever
Flag (If any): The Black Ensign (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/jedierrant/BlackEnsign.png)

Name: Bartholomew Quigley
Age: 26
Nationality: Irish
Class: Privateer (Quartermaster/Marine)
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 12 stone
Personality: Protective of family, stalwart, dutiful, doesn't give a flip for Ireland, quiet, brooding
Flag (If any):

Ship Name: Vainglorious
Type: Brig of War
Crew: 156
Weapons: 28 guns
~bow chasers: 2 9-pounder long guns
~foward gun deck: 8 12-pounder long guns
~aft gun deck: 4 20-pound carronades
~stern chasers: 2 9-pounder long guns
Picture (If any): The Brig Vainglorious (http://www.famsf.org/imagebase_zoom.asp?rec=4043202410800053)

Xis, if you look closely there are gun ports on the mai deck - thats where alol junks had them as far as I have been able to determine. I see gun ports for five pair per side, so that could be 20 cannon or carronades in broad side and there is certainly room for a pair of pairs in the stern and a pair in the bow, just look at that wonderful gun platform that broad prow makes!
I see, I'll be updating the support vessal shortly then. Thank you very much.

Oh..I gotta apologize to ya, Alversia. I found a sixth-rate frigate, a class of frigate that would have less guns than yours, that had 32-pounders for long guns. I don't think was still usual, but there's historic fact to support it.

HMS Suprise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Surprise_(1794))

Also, the Spanish Inquistion went on officially into the 1800s, but I think it toned down by the mid to late 1700s.

so is my boat ok now?

Name: 1st Viscount and Rear Admiral of the blue William Nelson
Age: 36
Nationality: British
Class: Officer(Royal British Navy)
Height: 6'3
Weight: 205
Personality: Brave, Noble, Never retreats, smart, strong he is known for his odd tactics in battles.
Flag (If any):

Ship Name: HMS Pegasus
Type: Ship of the line
Crew: 850 crew and Royal Marines
Weapons: 108 guns:
Gundeck: 34 × 32 pdrs
Middle gundeck 30 x 24 pdrs
Upper gundeck: 28 × 18 pdrs
Quarterdeck: 12 × 12 pdrs
Forecastle: 4 × 9 pdrs

Ship Name: HMS Alexandria
Type: Ship of Line
Crew
Weapons: 100 guns:
Gundeck: 28 × 32 pdrs
Middle gundeck: 28 × 24 pdrs
Upper gundeck: 30 × 12 pdrs
Quarterdeck: 10 × 12 pdrs
Forecastle: 4 × 12 pdrs

Ship Name: HMS Jane
Type: Ship of the Line
Crew:
Weapons: 74 guns:
Gundeck: 28 × 32 pdrs
Upper gundeck: 28 × 18 pdrs
Quarterdeck: 14 × 9 pdrs
Forecastle: 4 × 9 pdrs

Sorry that i haven't gotten the IC threat up yet but I'm having some RL issues so bear with it please, and all are accepted.

As for HMS Surprise, you will see that she was armed with 32-pounders at the end of the 1700's whereas our tale begins at the start of 1700 (100 years out of date)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13438049#post13438049

IC Thread

Name:Zachary freemendows

Ship Name:the golden pigeon
Type:brigantine
Crew:146
Weapons:52 30ft canons (sorry about that got the info wrong <)
Picture (If any):http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/6423/Ships/brigantine.jpg

Not completely, GZ.

Naval cannons of this time were judged by the weight of the round they fired. A true brigantine ought to have ten to eighteen guns. The goofballs amongst us using 20-30 gun brigs, like myself, have modified, bigger brigs that would be called by the British Navy 'post ships' and classified as a "sixth rate" ships based on our guns. Either we're using brigs made by madmen who cackle at the idea of larger brig designs or we're a 'razee' meaning our ships are some chopped down frigate that was heavily modified.

Also standard gun weights are usually in the order of 6, 9, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 24, 28, 30, 32 pounds. There could be a weight inbetween those pound measurements, but those seem to be the most common.

~Alversia,

Sure Surprise is late 18th century, but there most be some point at which a naval ordance officer thought, "why don't we put 32pounders on this ship' before the Surprise. The Surprise is just an example of the latest that innovation might have been thought up.

Anyways, yer a pirate. A pirate rarely had the same weight of shot anywhere on his ship. He used what he captured. Perhaps the 32pounders amongst us just happened to get a military transport moving 32pounders to some coastal fort.

Not completely, GZ.

~Alversia,

Sure Surprise is late 18th century, but there most be some point at which a naval ordance officer thought, "why don't we put 32pounders on this ship' before the Surprise. The Surprise is just an example of the latest that innovation might have been thought up.

Anyways, yer a pirate. A pirate rarely had the same weight of shot anywhere on his ship. He used what he captured. Perhaps the 32pounders amongst us just happened to get a military transport moving 32pounders to some coastal fort.

Good luck trying to fire a broadside of them though, two shots = one capsized pirate ship + One very unhappy Pirate

Name: Captain Bartholomeus van Nierdrop
Age: 32
Nationality: Dutch
Class: Privateer
Height: 1.85 m
Weight: 75 kg
Personality: brave, strict, fierce
Flag (If any): coming soon

Ship Name: IJssel
Type: 6th rate frigate
Crew: 160
Weapons: 24 guns
Picture (If any): none

Name: Captain Bartholomeus van Nierdrop
Age: 32
Nationality: Dutch
Class: Privateer
Height: 1.85 m
Weight: 75 kg
Personality: brave, strict, fierce
Flag (If any): coming soon

Ship Name: IJssel
Type: 6th rate frigate
Crew: 160
Weapons: 24 guns
Picture (If any): none

Accepted

am i accepted

Was my ship and captain ever accepted?

am i accepted

Yeah, sorry, go on ahead

Its all good and alright

Name: Luc Tibou Livinion
Age: 40
Nationality: French
Class: French Naval Captain
Height: 5'
Weight: 100 lbs.
Personality: Stern, but thoughtful, intelligent, and has a great knowledge for military, specifically naval, strategies
Flag (If any): Fleur-de-Lis

Ship Name: Amerique
Type: Fifth-Rate Frigate
Crew: 255
Weapons: 36 18-pound guns
Tonnage: 1,025
Picture (If any): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/La_Boudeuse.jpg

Accepted

I have to share this...

Pirates A team style (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8aD0O5Mcn4)

For anyone who enjoys Roger & Hammerstine, though I'm not sure who it's by (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwmZhIs0hog)

~Tanaara, the second vid's song is from Beauty and the Beast.

Ya call yerself a right and true buccaneer and ya don't know no show tunes?! Be havin' ya keel hauled, wench! Now get ye back to the tavern!

~Alversia, I'll just let you think that, but seeing that the Surprise is a pretty well known and surviving frigate, the idea is sound.

Yahar yahar yahar har har, ya be makin' me laugh, gov'na. Durn't ya know? Bein' daft is a pri-murry qual-lee-fic-kay-shun fer the Brethern of the Coast!

My character has a big bounty for being taken alive to the Spanish Inquisition, and an even larger bounty for being taken alive to the Armada, so she is probably safer on sea than on land. Any suggestions on how to RP her persecutors, should I do it myself or would it be better if someone else did it?

ok....................now is it good?

GZ,

Take out the feet all together. You don't measure a cannon by feet. This era's guns are measured by weight, pounds. It won't be until the turn of the twentith century that cannons will start to be measured by their bore size in inches.

A 30ft cannon would be thirty feet long. Your ship is most likely some where, very roughly, around a hundred to a hundred-fifty feet long and perhaps fifty to eighty feet wide. Your cannons are about as wide as your ship, and a third your length.

hey ppl is is back:P
Ar this be a proper piraty thread by the look o it, mind if i be joinin?

Name:shao dong
Age:35
Nationality:chinese
Class:pirate
Height:5ft5"
Weight:120 pound
Personality:calm, quick to react, loyal to the code and a good honest pirate(if thats possable)
Flag (If any): will post in a week, can only use photoshop in school :(
Ship Name:the man-o-war
Type:medium frigate
Crew:300. Notable figures: bosen: tai puong
First mate: sao feng II
Weapons:18 pounders: 30 24 ponders: 30 2 sets of bow mounted trippleguns.
Picture (If any): Shao dong:http://us.i1.yimg.com/img.movies.yahoo.com/ymv/us/img/flickr/01/70/000460470170.jpg
Man o war (http://http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mystore.cc/stores/sybilsartattic/prodimg/black%2520pearl%25202%2520%2520darkest%2520from%2520jeff%27s%2520cam.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mystore.cc/specials.ihtml&h=899&w=596&sz=131&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=zGHQGFBQsOz9xM:&tbnh=146&tbnw=97&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dblack%2Bpearl%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN)Also has a junk called Legacy (http://http://www.travellerspen.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/02/Chinese%20Junk.jpg) that has 2 cannon banks (would be a very longer version) AND a small frigate called Hunter with 15 18+ 15 24 pounders but no tripple guns ans is a scalled version of the Man-o-war.

@Ih8uwannakillu: Sounds interesting, accepted. I made mine on Photoshop as well.

@Third Spanish States: Most of the Pirates here will have a bounty, In fact if you want to add Bounty to your Char Bios then please do so.

@Catawaba: From a century ahead, We'll all pretend we're neo-conservative and stick to 18 and 24 pounders for our Frigates.

@GZ: Nearly there, take out the measurements of your guns and pick from the list that Catawaba so kindly provided:

@St Fabian: Your character was one of the first accepted.

NOTE TO ALL:
CHARACTERS UP UNTIL THIS POINT HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED. THERE IS NO NEED TO ASK AGAIN IF YOU HAVE POSTED A CHARACTER BEFORE THIS POST!

dose that area get mist ?

Did we actuly settle on a port for the Pirates to be sailin to? If not ill go to tortuga any way:P

At the moment most of the pirates are at Port-Au-Prince south of Tortuga in Haiti. That's where my ship will be sailing for that wretched hive of scum and villainy.

At the moment most of the pirates are at Port-Au-Prince south of Tortuga in Haiti. That's where my ship will be sailing for that wretched hive of scum and villainy.

And its where you will be repelled :p

Tortuga is the 'Pirate's Port', so to speak but Port-Au-Prince is where they're holed up for at the moment.

ah, kk, ill rp me headin there with hunter now:P

Not a problem, Paddy Reynolds'll be heading that way once he's patched up his holey vessel

And he should put his hands up at his ears with his thumbs inside them and wiggle them while sticking his tounge out at the barbarian aggressor.
I'm actually part Irish myself :D

Not a problem, Paddy Reynolds'll be heading that way once he's patched up his holey vessel

~Larry the Pirate
Aye, there be sumpin' sacred aboot a good ship, eh gov'na? Yahar yahar yahar yahar!


~Also at Alversia from Captain Gunasontree, formerly of his Britannic Majesty's Royal Navy

Repelled? Poppycock, I say! Where do you come up with these ideas? Repelled, my lord...are you like a crazy person? Need to be returned to Bedlam? My word...you Irish upstarts best learn your place!

Safely behind his guns, the brave and noble Irish Warrior looks out on his enemy and makes one move

:p nah, nah, nah, nah, nah!

And he should put his hands up at his ears with his thumbs inside them and wiggle them while sticking his tounge out at the barbarian aggressor.
I'm actually part Irish myself :D

I'm ALL Irish! :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mb5QgXEGUg
Like this?

I'm ALL Irish! :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mb5QgXEGUg
Like this?
Quite so. XD.
Hmmm, national origins?
English, Dutch, Irish, German, Finnish, Scottish, (maybe) French and about a dozen other different nationalities. I am, as they call it, a mutt. :p

Can i join as a single charactor? a pirate loooking for employment?

Quite so. XD.
Hmmm, national origins?
English, Dutch, Irish, German, Finnish, Scottish, (maybe) French and about a dozen other different nationalities. I am, as they call it, a mutt. :p

Jay-sus you've been about a bit :p

I'll settle for all Irish, except maybe French...and Norwegian and English if you want to go back a couple of hundred years

ostiea thats a privateir lol, unless u mean a job aboard a crew, in wich case youll find iv jost got a vacency after my Lao had an unfortunate acident involving a knife in the IC thread.

Jay-sus you've been about a bit :p

I'll settle for all Irish, except maybe French...and Norwegian and English if you want to go back a couple of hundred years
I suspect my ancestors liked to get it on a lot...and they traveled. A lot. :D

lol, dont have a clue what nationalitys i am, as far as i know im just british, dont really meananythin now as british is anything lol.
Good to have a wide ariety of cultures on the threads thoe:)

Btw, how does every one like my last post and my complete breach of copy right with the POTC makers lol

Ok sounds good Ih8uwannakillu, i will post charactor details in afew minutes.

The best words on this subject from from Bill Murray in Stripes:

"We're all very different people. We're not Watusi, we're not Spartans, we're Americans. With a capital "A," huh? And you know what that means? Do you? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse. We're the underdog. We're mutts."

I'm mostly Brit and Welsh with a bit of German, French, Scot, and Creek Indian thrown in...probably a smidgen of Irish too. Still,

~Captain Kitt,

I need not hide behind my guns to taunt you, Irishman! I'll do it right here in front of my guns. Your mother was ham..

~Larry the Pirate

Beggin' yer par-den, cap'n. If'n yer on the railin'...ain't ya be'tix the gun not before'em?

That'll do, Mister Lawrence...that'll do...

Charactor Bio:

Name: Mallory Laurent
Age: 21
Height: 5'1
Weight: 105Lbs
Hair: Dirty blonde
Eyes: Green
Body type: Slim, nice shape
Skills: Skilled swordsman (Swords..woman :-P), navigator, cooking skills
Weapons: Sword, dagger and a pistol
Biography: Mallory Laurent was born in Paris. She left home with her father, a French Colonial in the regular army based in the caribbean on the french controlled island of Martinique. After a falling out with her father who was a complete controll freek Mallory dissapeared....escaping her fathers protectiveness she swore never to be told what to do again. Mallory Laurent is currently looking for a job aboard a ship where she can make some serious money, she is arrogant, quick to act and witty, all miss Laurent needs is a good ships captian and a strong wind to find her true purpose in life.

Mallory:
http://is3.okcupid.com/users/108/554/10955456165571747308/mt1160688040.jpg

18th Century flintlock (Used by mallory):

http://www.gaspee.org/Pistol.jpg

** ^She has two^**

Mallorys French Flintlock dagger pistol:

http://replicagunsswords.com/weapons_gallery/images_backup/t_1101_02.jpg



**Updated bio**

Ok, where can i jump in? at a pub..bar..or somthing somewhere? a place where i can get on a ship easily.....any suggestions?

i'am about to drop anchor near a fishing village, you could try and see if we take her to a port

Name: Robert Stonewall
Age: 26
Nationality: English
Class: Pirate
Height: 6'0
Weight: 145 lbs
Personality: Sarcastic, Strange, Merciful, Kind.
Flag (If any): http://www.swimport.com/flags/F25-bandana.JPEG

Ship Name: Unbarmherzig
Type: 64-gun third rate ship of the line.
Crew: 180
Weapons: 64 guns of various weights of shot.
Picture (If any): None :(

I applaud your flag choice, Imperial Isa.

flag i'am using
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Germany_%28state%29.svg

Posted in the IC thread, feel free to interact with Livinion and his brave crew. :p

Ok, where can i jump in? at a pub..bar..or somthing somewhere? a place where i can get on a ship easily.....any suggestions?
My little pirate fleet is heading to Tortuga, and my Captain is looking for a good First Mate at the moment. Drop into a pub there probably if you wish to join the crew.

Marine
http://www.rgjassociation.info/picts/officer.jpg

My little pirate fleet is heading to Tortuga, and my Captain is looking for a good First Mate at the moment. Drop into a pub there probably if you wish to join the crew.

Im at Port-au-Prince...any chance you could come here...?

Just a comment on large ships...- Ships of the Line don't dock at piers, they anchor out and thsoe wanting to go ashore are rowed in on ships boats - very few of the new world cities had the docking for numerous ships, especially not for ones as big as Ships of the Line

I seen that, they would usually come in dingys lowered into the water from the larger vessel...

Corbournne appears to be alright in his latest post, it does not sound as if his ship is too large, But i have seen others that are exactly what your talking about Tanaara.

Just a comment on large ships...- Ships of the Line don't dock at piers, they anchor out and thsoe wanting to go ashore are rowed in on ships boats - very few of the new world cities had the docking for numerous ships, especially not for ones as big as Ships of the Line

Charactor Bio:

Name: Mallory Laurent
Age: 21
Height: 5'1
Weight: 105Lbs
Hair: Dirty blonde
Eyes: Green
Body type: Slim, nice shape
Skills: Skilled swordsman (Swords..woman :-P), navigator, cooking skills
Weapons: Sword, dagger and a pistol
Biography: Mallory Laurent was born in Paris. She left home with her father, a French Colonial in the regular army based in the caribbean on the french controlled island of Martinique. After a falling out with her father who was a complete control freek Mallory dissapeared....escaping her fathers protectiveness she swore never to be told what to do again. Mallory Laurent is currently looking for a job aboard a ship where she can make some serious money, she is arrogant, quick to act and witty, all miss Laurent needs is a good ships captian and a strong wind to find her true purpose in life.

Mallory:
http://is3.okcupid.com/users/108/554/10955456165571747308/mt1160688040.jpg

18th Century flintlocks (Used by mallory):

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/h2/h2_1986.265.1,2.jpg

** ^She has two^**

Mallorys French Flintlock dagger pistol:

http://www.aurorahistoryboutique.com/products/C000695.jpg

These weapons were aquired from her fathers collection before she left. Miss Laurent has been interested in warfare her whole life, as a child she was taught by her father how to shoot, fight, and survive in the world using her head. She had been raised well by her father considering Mrs. Laurent had passed at the time of Mallorys birth.



**Updated bio**

Hispanola/ Port Au Prince (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Haiti_map.png)

Another comment, Corbournne was playing it cool when he sailed into Port-Au-Prince when he hauled down his flag. It's not going to totally hide the fact he's a French officer from everyone as we saw with Miss Laurent and could see with any seaman who might recognize the French frigate from a previous cruise or some such.

But putting three ships of the line in a pirate den's harbor like they rolled in with the mist? Tanaara's right, a ship o'line doesn't rightly dock. It's got such a deep draft, and it's so big that it's easier for it to dock further out into the harbor in case it needs to get out at the earliest notice and not worry about tides. Also, no pirate's going to sit there and go,

"Aye, mate, ain't that dutchie man o'war?"

"Naw, get back to yer grog, ya blight-eyed cuttlefish. Those be German men o'war. Nothin' to get yer hackles up aboot."

Men of war are distinctly bad things to pirates. The moment they saw the royals of a ship of the line appear of the horizion, Port-Au-Prince would explode like a kicked anthill. Ships would be warping out to sea. Decks would be cleared for action, and others would be running before the wind, throwing everything they wouldn't need to escape the navy.

These ships do not go fast. Perhaps ten to fifteen knots with a good wind, they don't appear suddenly. The pirates would have chance to get notice and move. These three battle-damaged (thus slower) ships o'line haven't sailed into Port-Au-Prince, they're equipped with flux capacitors and wormhole generator.

And before the rest of the silver screen's worthy avatars for our characters are taken, Kitt Gunasontree at the fore and Bart Quigley bringing up the rear (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/jedierrant/KittQuig.jpg).

Yeah, i see what your saying... ^^

explode like a kicked anthill

Aha i like it, good comparison.

The Crew of the Lovers Bite is being discretely ant like...and once they're moving she'll warn the rest of those at the tavern.

What have I been calling Port-Au-Prince but a wretched hive of scum and villainy. Insect analogies just work with pirates.

Auuugh this thread. I really, really want to join up, but I don't know the first thing about the technology of the day. So I'm going to post my ship and such, and assume that you friendly, helpful people will correct me where I'm wrong. Fair enough?

Name: Calvin Gabriel Denton
Rank: Captain
Age: 25
Nationality: English
Occupation: Privateer
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 146 lb.
Personality: Charismatic, intelligent, cunning, ideologically promiscuous, decisive.
Flag (If any): Here. (http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/4/2/12/f_Untitled2m_037030e.jpg)

Ship Name: Mystery
Type: Fifth-rate Frigate
Crew: 274 men
Weapons: 36 18-pounders
Picture (If any): Right here. (http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/f/f8/320px-Lutine1.jpg)

Anyone wanna arrange a pirate meeting? perhaps come to an arrangement about alliances and the sort?

seeng we only now just got a map i'am going pfft at you as i would said yards, how many meters is a yard by the way


and Catawaba they stop at a fishing village word of odd all out black ships of the line would have got to you by now by a faster ship in five days as i did miss count

@Hurfdurfistan: Accepted. Welcome aboard!

@Osteia: Accepted

OOC3: Ships of the Line do not dock, they drop anchor and row in to the ports.

@Eureka Island: A meeting would probably have to take place in Tortuga, seeing as it is a Pirate stronghold.

@Amboss: Accepted

@Isa: Cool flag

that way i said yard of the dock then fix it to yards as in rowing distance not long side , i have seen hornblower to learn things from it

What?

that way i said yard of the dock then fix it to yards as in rowing distance not long side , i have seen hornblower to learn things from it

I still don't understand what this means

shit i forgot to quote you post of this

Ships of the Line do not dock, they drop anchor and row in to the ports

as i was doing two things at the sametime

that way i said yard of the dock then fix it to yards as in rowing distance not long side , i have seen hornblower to learn things from it

I still don't understand what this means

people are bitching that ship of line can't dock .

mine are not docked but are some yards from the docks
i all so put yard when i meant to say yards

Now I understand, you mean several hundred yards off the coast, or else your ship would be torn to shreds on the corals.

Now I understand, you mean several hundred yards off the coast, or else your ship would be torn to shreds on the corals.

that it but still can row to the docks

now i got to go work out how to get oil out of the carpet

.... .... ... thread needs to pick up....

.... .... ... thread needs to pick up....

I posted.

So, who else is headed for Tortuga after the litte upset at the port?

So, who else is headed for Tortuga after the litte upset at the port?

I'm en route at the moment

I'm en route at the moment
Oh, cool. So is this the Tortuga from Pirates or is it different?

Oh, cool. So is this the Tortuga from Pirates or is it different?

Sort of, it's a riot but it does have a Pirate Garrison to protect it from marauding Naval vessels.

What did I miss before my post?

What did I miss before my post?

Not a lot, people coming into port and the like, and a Pirate council's being organised in Tortuga

Once i am done in Port -au- Prince i will goto Tortuga where hopefully i can find a crew who requires my services.

Do we have Pirate Lords?

Ooo, that sounds like fun, if there are Pirate lords my Pirate can be the Lord of the Super Drunks!

On a serious note, my pirate ship already has a crew so none will be needed from Tortuga. Unless he buys another ship. Would that be fine with you?

Once i am done in Port -au- Prince i will goto Tortuga where hopefully i can find a crew who requires my services.
As said before, my Captain needs a good First Mate...
Pirate Lords eh? My guy and his ships are still relatively new to these waters, but they've been around long enough to establish a base and make a successfully job at preying on merchant vessals. So he probably would not be a Lord, but may be in the running to be one.

Alright sounds good, i forgot you said i could join up with you...ALOT to remember on NS. Alright then,

As soon as i leave port - au - prince we will link up.

Thanks.

Well, if we were to find Pirate Lords who could we have? If anyone knows a list of seas that would be useful

Alright sounds good, i forgot you said i could join up with you...ALOT to remember on NS. Alright then,

As soon as i leave port - au - prince we will link up.

Thanks.
Yeah, there IS a lot to remember...hell, I've got like four or five threads going at once...get them mixed up sometimes.
Cool, I'll see you there then.

Well, if we were to find Pirate Lords who could we have? If anyone knows a list of seas that would be useful

WE could easily go oceans. That way I don't look stupid.:D Seas in the Carribian and Americas or around the world? As for the age of my pirate, he has been plundering for 12 years and loves doing so, he could be a pirate lord. You can possibly even have pirate lords by race.

Well, the main one's I think would be as follows:

The Caribbean Sea (Obviously)
The Atlantic Ocean
The Indian Ocean
The Pacific Ocean
The North Sea
The Irish Sea
The Mediterranean Sea
The Red Sea
The Irish Sea

Those are the main one's I can think of

Oooh, I have an idea for the Pirate Lords. Each Captian that meets up in Tortuga, I am not sure where they are meeting now but that is where I think they are, picks one crewsmen and they will all fight to the death and the surviving six crewsmen will have their Captian become one of the Pirate Lords.

Oooh, I have an idea for the Pirate Lords. Each Captian that meets up in Tortuga, I am not sure where they are meeting now but that is where I think they are, picks one crewsmen and they will all fight to the death and the surviving six crewsmen will have their Captian become one of the Pirate Lords.

Like a violent but brief election :D

I like the idea, but there would have to be Pirate Lords before this, y'know. And I think there should be a few permenant members if you know what I mean.

You should add the English Channel, the Straight of Malacca (if we even go over there), and if we are over by the Middle East the Persian Gulf. I could think of more just give me an idea on where we will be going.

Fine then, at the moment, these are the posts available for Pirate Lord

Atlantic Ocean
Pacific Ocean
Indian Ocean
Persian Gulf
North Sea
Caribbean Sea
Mediterranean Sea
South China Sea

Any major ones I left out?

People can claim or nominate others for Pirate Lord

I CALL NORTH SEA!! :D :D

Like a violent but brief election :D

I like the idea, but there would have to be Pirate Lords before this, y'know. And I think there should be a few permenant members if you know what I mean.

Or maybe it can just be like we are all fighting a bar and some one (my charactor as I thought this up) will interupt and say, "Lets make orginization for mayhem. We will make us a little Pirate Council, and all the pirates that are not apart of our little government shall die."

Then we will make that violent election and the voila!

Yay! I found my giant 1800s globe, more seas to come!

More seas:

Sargossa Sea
Gulf of Mexico
Baltic Sea
Bay of Bisca
Gulf of Guinea

Lets do what I just said though. If not I call the Carribian Sea.

Alright, these are the posts for the moment

Sargossa Sea - Captain Morgan Black
Baltic Sea -
Atlantic Ocean -
Pacific Ocean -
Indian Ocean -
Persian Gulf -
North Sea - Captain Patrick Reynolds
Caribbean Sea - Captain Jacob Hemming
Mediterranean Sea -
South China Sea - Captain Kitsunekaji Ro-zu,

LOL I've already called myself a pirate queen...don't need to be no damned lord or ladyship...

and any one who disputes my title can face MY sword...

But call me the Queen of the Carribe, iffna ya must...

LOL I've already called myself a pirate queen...don't need to be no damned lord or ladyship...

and any one who disputes my title can face MY sword...

Pirate Queen of where?

LOL see above

an d is it just me or is Jolt getting even weirder?

Srry, Greston called that Sea first, You can be Pirate Queen of the Gulf of Mexico? It's only a little to the left?...

And how do you mean?

Hey, you left off the Sea of Japan (although I don't know wether this was called such back then.) Anyway, mine would be that or the South China sea, given his origins.

The Sargossa Sea is right above the Carribian sea, if you want to be near the Carri have Alversia add it. Also Alversia my characters name is Captian Jacob Hemming. Also what do you think about my proposed idea?

Mallory isn't interested in being the lord of anything. Her intention is to get on a good ship and work as a first mate/ henchmen.....

She is qualified for the job if you have seen her profile. Xiscapia has offered to take miss Laurent aboard and show her how being a ruthless pirate works on the high seas.

As she gets used to the new scene, a ruthless pirate is exactly what she will be.....

How long will she be in Tortuga, as Mr. Hemming is in need or a larger crew and more ruthless killers, 43 isn't that much.

*The combined navies of Britain, France, Spain, and the Netherlands laugh at the pirates who think they're in charge of the world's seas.* :p

Xis, what's your character called again?

And it seems to me that we already have more Lords than Pirates to fill the posts, we will need to create a few NPC Characters to fill the slots in the event of any meeting.

@Corburnne: Got to have some order to chaos :D

Once Corburnne and i have finished up in port au prince she will get on board a ship to tortuga...

I already have a job offer but we will see how things go Icily, if you would like to refer to her skills see Pg. 7 :-)

Thank you.

And it seems to me that we already have more Lords than Pirates to fill the posts, we will need to create a few NPC Characters to fill the slots in the event of any meeting.

Thus the reason my idea would work out. Six Lords after the fighting, how many pirate ships are there? Not counting the military ships and the mercenary ships.

Thus the reason my idea would work out. Six Lords after the fighting, how many pirate ships are there? Not counting the military ships and the mercenary ships.

Six Lords of where? There would have to be more than 6 at a meeting, otherwise it would be a private affair as opposed to the mass meeting it would have to be in order to represent all Pirates.

As for active Pirates? Not a lot about 6 at most.

Six Lords of where? There would have to be more than 6 at a meeting, otherwise it would be a private affair as opposed to the mass meeting it would have to be in order to represent all Pirates.

As for active Pirates? Not a lot about 6 at most.

Lords of an Ocean at best then, the other pirates can come along only one of the six would be represetning them.

Six Lords of where? There would have to be more than 6 at a meeting, otherwise it would be a private affair as opposed to the mass meeting it would have to be in order to represent all Pirates.

As for active Pirates? Not a lot about 6 at most.

Or we can mix our ideas together?

My char is named Kitsunekaji Ro-zu, paddy.

Or we can mix our ideas together?

How do you mean?

MAJOR TIMEWARP!!

Yeah, I guess so, but is there any of this involved? :fluffle:

Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13445245&postcount=39) you go. You can't have pirates with no: :fluffle:

How do you mean?

MAJOR TIMEWARP!!

The little clash at the bar, they set up the council, have those violent elections only have more spaces open (a space for all of the places listed), and then that is your and my ideas together.

@Corburnne: Got to have some order to chaos :D

Yeah, I guess so, but is there any of this involved? :fluffle:

Livinion looks somewhat similiar to Norrington off PotC.

Right on, cool.

Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13445245&postcount=39) you go. You can't have pirates with no: :fluffle:

Time warp ftw

I never thought about this but will there really be sea monsters? And will there be the ghosts and and things like in the Pirates movie? I really don't want to get those things into this but I will be fine if they do.

They weren't really planned. See how everyone else thinks about them before we going into them in any depth

I just mentioned it for legends of the sea and shit like that. Im not really into all that hocus pocus myself but if someone brings it in...what ever..

Yeah, especially in pirate towns, I'm sure tales like that were often told, I don't think they should be included in any greater capacity than that, however.

Yeah, especially in pirate towns, I'm sure tales like that were often told, I don't think they should be included in any greater capacity than that, however.

I hate that crap, so then I guess no one else likes it either so lets keep that out, they can talk about I guess but please I would hate to have to RP some of that.

Because we have so many players may I make a suggetion

at the top of your post put the name of the character or ship you are interacting with, that way the proper person knows to respond

c&ping a pervious post is just a huge space waster and is very confusing with Jolt acting as badly as it it, so I suggest NOT doing this.

Good idea

From now on people put names at the top of their posts like:

[Name] and [Name]
[Place]

Aw, south china sea is taken!?!?!?!?
SHAO DUNG ISN'T HAPPY!!!! Watch yo back Xipia lol

To think 1 comment i mentioned in the IC thread sparked over 3 pages worth of speach lol

an d is it just me or is Jolt getting even weirder?

no it's not you, jolt time warpping getting beyond the joke

no it's not you, jolt time warpping getting beyond the joke

Yeah, it is driving me crazy, hey you know what would be funny, a joke RP on how to stop Jolt Timewarping! It will be a character RP in FT and they go into a black hole and stop it forever, that would be fun!

My charactor has arrived at Tortuga.

Yeah, it is driving me crazy, hey you know what would be funny, a joke RP on how to stop Jolt Timewarping! It will be a character RP in FT and they go into a black hole and stop it forever, that would be fun!

That is actually a really good idea :p

I can see it now. People whose posts timewarp are lost in space forever.

That is actually a really good idea :p

I can see it now. People whose posts timewarp are lost in space forever.

YEAH! It would be an awesome science fiction RP:D I ponder it for a while I might just make it!

^^^ interesting concept

Yay action! :-)

Made action!

BTW, what's a Tripple gun? Ih8u seems to have some

It better not be a TRIPLE gun...

Anybody know where Amboss is?

Action fun.:p

Hey guys! here is a really fun and weird RP that i am setting, you can join up if you want, it will be a lot of fun, and if the mods find it to be helpful it could be stickied.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549592

That cannon out of POTC that DOES NOT really exist...

and the times warps are getting worse!

erm both of my above posts were made AFTER Osteas...grrrr

Anybody know where Amboss is?

God knows.....

your charactor was leaving anyways wasn't he? i suppose it would be alright to take your leave...?

As for a triple? never heard of it?

That cannon out of POTC that DOES NOT really exist...


Ohhhh THAT.... lol...

Uhhh NO!

As the aggravated Queen of the Carib has attempted to point out in three time warped posts, this is a triple gun from the Flying Dutchman which do not exist. (http://absoluteimagination.net/images/Portfolio/Dutchman/triple%20gun%202.JPG)

True that, but common on folks, some level of realism here!;)

I give up, but thanks Catawaba for the pic!

As the aggravated Queen of the Carib has attempted to point out in three time warped posts, this is a triple gun from the Flying Dutchman which do not exist. (http://absoluteimagination.net/images/Portfolio/Dutchman/triple%20gun%202.JPG)

They do in movies. Hmmph. :(

it's just a jump to the left

They do in movies. Hmmph. :(

NO TRIPLE GUNS! THEY ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO MADE IN REAL LIFE...

...although they would be cool.

What about quadroople guns? :(

I'm kidding don't hurt me!

*Runs at Greston with a massive hatchet

NO QUADRUPLE GUNS!

What about quadroople guns? :(

I'm kidding don't hurt me!

NO TRIPLE GUNS! THEY ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO MADE IN REAL LIFE...

...although they would be cool.

a 120mm Gatling gun be something to see

And a step to the right,
then bring your knees in tight...

If you'll notice Alversia , the flag has been sewn so that the charge dows not show, it looks like any pirate flag, per Catawaba's post.

Per Xiscapias request I am not posting for the next several hours, maybe all night. We are kinda dogpilong on the action and ( in my estimation ONLY - befcomeg more than a little chaotic and unfair. ) I apologise for my part in that.

OOC: Okay, I know there's a reason for the OOC thread, but this needs to temporarily stop. I haven't been able to respond to the attack directed AT ME, and if this keeps up the attack will be over by the time I'm able to respond. I cannot post in detail right now, but I beg those of you RPing here to just stop for a couple of hours until I can replace this with a proper post. Rude of me, but I need to post.
Posted in OOC thread, reposted here, in case anyone missed it.

Right then, fair enough

POSTING EMBARGO FROM NOW ON UNTIL XISCAPIA (WHO I REMIND YOU WAS THE TARGET OF THIS ATTACK) CAN POST HIS REPLY. UNTIL THEN, FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CO-OPERATION IN THIS MATTER AND HOPE YOU WILL ENJOY YOUR STAY

If you'll notice Alversia , the flag has been sewn so that the charge dows not show, it looks like any pirate flag, per Catawaba's post.

Bugger, all well, assume he recognises the flag anyway.

Ahh, i see what you mean...we are killing scores of enemys and he hasn't really the chance to fight back.

PLUS..

I have just noticed Xiscapia's request on the main fourm, i would like to continue but perhalps i will wait for a bit...makes it fair, we don't want this to get too far ahead eh? thats when people loose interest trying to catch up.

Ok, question....sence this is supposed to be lord against lord.. how are we going to end this fight? someone is going to have to withdraw from now? the attacker...i think that would work, give him time to get things back together after this mess?

We can't simply say this didn't happen all of a sudden...the only way is withdrawl...

As for losses, if you want you can just round it off...losses were inflicted on both sides? it just went into detail from afew different charactors.

Simple, the rest of the Pirates realise that this is between the two Pirate Lords and leave. As for big casualties there is a chance that old scores would be settled in the confusion.

You could, but no one would.
As for continuing the conversation, you can if you want

And Greston

Captain Reynolds, remember what you said about cooperation? And Captain, what you said about hating Chinamen? Well this man won't be able to cooperate with me, and he's a Chinaman. He beleives himself to be the Pirate Lord of the South China Sea, and in my absence grew arrogant and cocky. He will try to kill me here. In the interest of forming a union of pirates to defend ourselves, will the both of you help me kill this mangy sea dog?"

I give you your answer

And Pirate Lord is more of a title, you have no Armies, no Navies. You are a Lord in no way apart from name. No one will respect you anymore because you are Pirate Lord of the Caribbean anymore than the Pirate Lord of the North Sea, it's a title.

Yeah but remember the Carribian is what Jacob has his control over. Becuase he attacked his town Jacob got into it. Also remember Xis asked Jacob if he would kill Shao for him?

Also, since Mallory and Jacob were in the middle of conversation can they contiue talking only not fight?

NO TRIPLE GUNS! THEY ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO MADE IN REAL LIFE...

...although they would be cool.

I'm actually going to argue this.

It would be possible, given a limited understanding of chemistry, to use lead styphnate as a blasting agent, available (according to my research) at the time we're RPing, and several smaller cannon (due to the mass of the projectile) with crude hammers installed to create a triple gun. Essentially, it would be a large, primitive, thoroughly wasteful Gatling gun. Which could not be fed by a belt nor have a box magazine.

So, a gigantic, heavy, cumbersome thing that would have to be reloaded every three shots instead of every one. Oh, and it wouldn't be as accurate due to the firing mechanism.

But you could build one.

Also, since Mallory and Jacob were in the middle of conversation can they contiue talking only not fight?

Break off if you agree? or continue to fight him...this will also teach my charactor of pirate honor and understanding? we made a point? agree? he attacked and suffered for it.

As long as he accepts some losses to us, and the action that has taken place i see no further need to argue?. :-)

[QUOTE=Ih8uwannakillu;13440716]Weapons:18 pounders: 30 24 ponders: 30 2 sets of bow mounted trippleguns.QUOTE]
Iv clearly stated both before i posted and several times during the rp that i have tripples, why cant i have them all of a sudden? it would mean me runing over every page of the IC thread again and rewriting everything.

By fireworks i ment normal fireworks with bombs straped to them

till me an xis fight the attack isn't over BUT i will withdraw the other chiname pirats.

ok, this time warp thing on jolt is just plane anoying, i did reply 2 u m8.

Have you ever tried sticking gun powder to a rocket? One result and ain't good for the man lighting the fuse

As for the Triple Guns, you don't have to rewrite all the posts but I've asked you on at least three occasions what they were and got no response. If I'd known from the start they were triple guns I would have said something. As you have spelt it 'Tripple' whereas the more common form is 'Triple'.

The reason you can't have is that they are ruinously expensive for even the most powerful navy (That's one)
You have to reload each barrel one at a time, in the same amount of time I could get more than three shots at you without reply (Two)
They would be so inaccurate you wouldn't be able to hit anything further than 50 meters away (Three)
The guns would be so small in calibre (4 pounders at most) That they wouldn't even penetrate the hull of a Brig. (Four)

Ok, but you see my above post? can you agree to this?

We can discuss this triple thing, it's no biggy i guess if you have had them all along.... this is what the OOC is for, lets work this out alreay..jeeeesh...it's a great Rp...i would hate to see it goto shit all over afew simple misunderstandings.

till me an xis fight the attack isn't over BUT i will withdraw the other chiname pirats.

Alright cool, i will have my charactor pull back to the pub...it's not my town, i'll stay out of it and let you and Xis work this out.

Well if Shao does make it out alive that could make a pretty cool story idea. Jacob and his crew could hunt or try to hunt your ships down and it will be a pirate versus pirate grudge war. It could lead to conflict with Jacob and the Pirate Lord Council thing because he is going against the Pirate Code. Jacob will leave battle right now but vow under his breath to kill you.

ok, this time warp thing on jolt is just plane anoying, i did reply 2 u m8.

I see that....it's really annoying... lol Ok cool, my message back is...somwhere..

SO can we all agree to leave them fight it out..he will withdraw the other chinamen pirates...the battle did happen, lots of people were slain on both sides.

Now..if we can move on.. Lol

Right, well at this point itll have 2 mean loosing the Man-o-war and ruininmg the whole point of me being in the thread or have her almost uterly destroyed and the nefited completly.

The reason i didnt respond to you is becuase jolt is fubared so much iv only seen you ask what they are one, my spelling is abismal and iv had to respond to so many things in 1 post that i keep forgeting.

Well if Shao does make it out alive that could make a pretty cool story idea. Jacob and his crew could hunt or try to hunt your ships down and it will be a pirate versus pirate grudge war. It could lead to conflict with Jacob and the Pirate Lord Council thing because he is going against the Pirate Code. Jacob will leave battle right now but vow under his breath to kill you.

I have been signed up to kill Shao as well y'know he did ask both of us. And Patrick feels very strongly about the Pirate code.

When Xis gets back online of course

Right, well at this point itll have 2 mean loosing the Man-o-war and ruininmg the whole point of me being in the thread or have her almost uterly destroyed and the nefited completly.

The reason i didnt respond to you is becuase jolt is fubared so much iv only seen you ask what they are one, my spelling is abismal and iv had to respond to so many things in 1 post that i keep forgeting.

Jesus, it's a TIMEWARP plague!

The ship could limp away of course
What does 'nefited' mean?
And 'fubared'?

Well if Shao does make it out alive that could make a pretty cool story idea. Jacob and his crew could hunt or try to hunt your ships down and it will be a pirate versus pirate grudge war. It could lead to conflict with Jacob and the Pirate Lord Council thing because he is going against the Pirate Code. Jacob will leave battle right now but vow under his breath to kill you.

Goooooooooooood! good! :-)

Settled! we can just gather in the pub, shoot the shit..drink beer and listen to the fighting outside. Lol

I ment refited.
FUBAR means F***ed up beyond all recocknition

Right, well at this point itll have 2 mean loosing the Man-o-war and ruininmg the whole point of me being in the thread or have her almost uterly destroyed and the nefited completly.

The reason i didnt respond to you is becuase jolt is fubared so much iv only seen you ask what they are one, my spelling is abismal and iv had to respond to so many things in 1 post that i keep forgeting.

It can be badly damaged...maybe hold out long enough to limp away and make repairs?

I ment refited.
FUBAR means F***ed up beyond all recocknition

Ah, I see
Well you could still run y'know? Your vessel wouldn't have to be that badly damaged. And NS is truly FUed tonight to my knowledge. It wasn't a very well planned attack, to be honest.

well yea, course i didn't count on every one teamin me lol. Still the info on tripples would have helped more.

What else were they going to do? You emptied a full broadside into their taverns!
And where did you get the Triple guns from? PotC?

G2G now guys sry, ti me 2 slee an dream piraty dreams ar!!!!!!
l8rz, gd ady/night.

o an i did get em from potc yea. I mentioned it befor i posted my charicter bio but ns logged me off an it didnt post so...

who wants to buy Dutch loot off my lot as i'am going to attack their ships

who wants to buy Dutch loot off my lot as i'am going to attack their ships

Attack whose ships?

I have been signed up to kill Shao as well y'know he did ask both of us. And Patrick feels very strongly about the Pirate code.

Yes but this not because Ro-zu asked him, I know he asked both of us but I thought you declined it, and if Pat thinks strongly of the Pirate Code then fine with me, Jacob doesn't care about the pirate code.

Attack whose ships?

:rolleyes: name right there

:rolleyes: name right there

Me? Ih8uwannakillu? Alversia?

Permission to climb aboard, possibly?

I'm not sure I can join, being already caught up in RPs, but is this still open?

As open as the open ocean :D