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Hi there, for those of you who know me, you know who I am. For those that do not, I'm Antigr. Although I'm not the original founder of the Aggresive-Defensive Alliance of Nations (ADAN), I've brought the latest two reincarnations of ADAN to you. Well over three months since v3.1, and we are re-organising and reassigning positions as we do every so often, and hopefully taking on new members at the same time. ADAN is not a new fad and goes back years.

ADAN v3.1 suffered from a bit of over-bumping *looks guilty*, and nobody really took notice of it, and ADAN v3.0 was brought about because we were getting fed up of the sign-up-and-forget members and poor turnout for everything we did. ADAN was brought down to about half a dozen members due to this. To be a member, you must be fairly frequently active at the offsite (http://z10.invisionfree.com/ADAN). ADAN 2.0 was a big change, and these big changes are continued here, enjoy.

Oh, and for the already-members, you're still members. I think you still have your positions unless you choose not to, and for you new guys, read ALL of the following: (seriously)

Aggresive-Defensive Alliance of Nations
Version 3.2

The Charter:

Pre-Submittance Rules:

1. In order to be accepted into this alliance, you must first apply for the alliance. Submittances to the alliance can be posted below, or on our off-forum site. Each nation that has submitted will then be under a pending status where they will undergo a quick background check to see if you are really who you claim to be.

2. Applying nations must be fully committed to follow the standards and regulations of the Aggressive-Defensive Alliance of Nations. If you cannot, then do not waste your time applying.

3. You must agree to a background check to ensure that you are trustworthy.

4. The ADAN is an alliance of Aggressive and Defensive Nations. Thus a high military ratio may allow you more leniance for acceptance than a nation with a rather low ratio, due only to the type of alliance this is and it's aims. Do not, however, let this turn you away if you are a new nation, or a nation that doesn't believe in large Military Forces. This also does not guarantee that if you have an extremely large military force, that you will be accepted instantly. The ADAN is to be more open for All nations to be able to join without complications. (More details further down.)

5. We are looking for nations at or above one hundred million people (total population wise) for alliance-wide operations. Once again, if you are below one hundred million, do not let that turn you away.

6. Nations can be instantly accepted if they are either endorsed or the High Council votes in favor of the Nation at question. However, you'll still be subject to background checks.

7. The ADAN is not a nuclear weapons loving alliance. All usage must be granted permission by the Military and Governing Councils and then further approved by Dephire. Any usage without consent will result in severe actions upon thee.

8. In addition to the Pending Status, outside intelligence may also be used in your judgement. So please, don't submit if everyone in the bloody world hates you.

9. Applications are subject to be revoked if conflicts arise.

Post-Submittance Rules:

1. No Military action is to be taken amongst a fellow Alliance Member unless permission is granted by the High Council to be so. Permission may be granted upon request, but not every request is accepted. If Military action is striken upon a fellow nation without the High Council's approval, your nation would then be Expelled from the Alliance. Higher Level violations, such as more than two fellow Members, may result in Higher Leveled Consequences. Of course, this Alliance will not Forcefully remove all Members if the Conflict achieves a status of over fifty percent participation of Members. In that case, the conflict will be deemed an Alliance Disagreement, and would be considered unecessary to see to action be brought upon the Aggressive Members.

2. With the previous Rule being stated, any conflicts involving a fellow member against another fellow member may be monitored by the High Council.

3. You may NOT flame nor talk badly about a fellow member. Violations of this Rule will result in INSTANT permanent BAN from the Alliance. Higher Levels of Violations will result in notification of Moderators, if the situation permits.

4. You may be a member of another alliance as well as this one.

5. again, the ADAN is not a nuclear weapons loving alliance. All usage must be granted permission by all representitives and the Governing Council. Any usage without consent will result in severe actions upon thee. To apply for permission: post on this thread, telegram any Council member, telegram Dephire, or post your application on the private forums.

6. Application to our many different classes, such as the councils or divisions, are to be made on the private boards on the offsite.

AAN-DAN

The Aggressive/Defensive Alliance of Nations is at the point in which two stages are formed. Splitting of Aggressive and Defensive members.

Idealy, larger nations with huge military powers are to be on the Aggressive Alliance of Nations (AAN). These nations will pull through the Alliance-wide operations, such as total war against an opposing alliance or to counter a nation that has attacked a fellow member. However, there are limitations to these nations. AAN'ing is voluntary. You don't need to be up to 1.5 billion to be accepted into the AAN (see below), those are only guidelines. Known from personal experience.

-=-AAN members should be larger than 1.5 billion people (Total Population).
-=-AAN members must seek permission from Dephire and/or the council.
-=-Pointless warmongering will not be tolerated.
-=-The inclusion of the ADAN for your personal wars will not be tolerated.
-=-Do not start wars just to have the DAN fight for you.
-=-If you embarrass the ADAN, you will be subject to discipline.
-=-If you make a mockery of the ADAN, striking a non-member nation without proper authority, you will not have the assistance of the ADAN.
-=-Further mockery will result in extreme discipline. (Details are confidential.)
-=-AAN members are also to look after each other, except upon the circumstances previously mentioned.

Defensive Alliance of Nations (DAN) are members whom 'protect the motherland' so to say. They, instead of going out to war, prepare the homeland defenses incase the war comes to our home's borders. These nations are, for the most part, smaller nations that are not part of the AAN. In times of war, the DAN stock up on counter-measures, weapons, and other arsenal to help fuel the war effort of the AAN. However, the DAN are not to be 'slaves' or 'oppressed' by the AAN. In fact, the AAN and DAN are to co-exist peacefully. The Defensive Alliance of Nations also has their limitations:

-=-Must assist in the defense of the Alliance.
-=-Defensive nations are limited to ADAN peacekeeping missions, to hone their skills and get ready for actual offensive missions.
-=-They can be used in civil wars, terrorist attacked zones, or areas of civil unrest.
-=-These member HAVE the right to disapprove of any AAN action.

Nations with total populations of 2 billion or higher are more so going to be asked to be a part of the AAN. Nations with total populations of 100 million to under 2 billion are more likely to be asked to be a part of the DAN. Any members under 100 million are more than likely going to be placed on 'Observation' or 'Observer' for them to learn how things are done, and will also be used as a last resort on the front lines. If you fall under this category, do not be turned away, you will be treated with just as much respect as everyone else.

Also, as a punitive action for larger nations, we also reserve the right to demote a AAN nation to DAN status.

High Council (Rules/Regulations/Etc.):

The High Council is a system of governing for the Alliance as a whole. It shall be consistant of five member nations, one being Dephire of course. They will be in control of anything regarding Politics and Security, Law Enforcement and Society. Diplomacy and anything else. The High Council is the highest governing body of the entire alliance. The members of the High Council shall be decided by the fellow members of the Alliance.

Current Members of the High Council:
Dephire
Hurtful Thoughts
Asgarnieu
Antigr

Military Council (Rules/Regulations/Etc.):

This is a council dedicated to overseeing and commanding the ADAN military operations of all kinds. Again, it be consistent of up to five member nations. it is independent from the High Council, although this may have military command elements as well, especially at higher levels.

Current Members of the Military Council:
Antigr
Uldarious

AAN/DAN Representitives:

ADAN is divided into two sub-groups: Aggressive and Defensive nations.
Their representitives are there to represent the whole of each group, and act as a 'military council' in a sense, with the AAN proposing an action, and DAN either confirming or denying it, there may be up to two representitives for each group.

Current Roster:



DarkRed = Founder/Head
Green = High Council
DarkOrange = Military Council
Red = AAN
Blue = DAN
Asteriks(*) = AAN/DAN Group Representitive
Black = Observer/Not Assigned Group


- Hurtful Thoughts
- Asgarnieu
- Antigr*
- Terror Incognitia
- Maldorians
- Carbandia
- Dephire
- Diggledom
- Colstream
- Uldarious* (HE'S BACK!)
- Megalithon
- Dynamic Revolution
- Greston
- Alexandriov
- Maaldathi
- Logan and Ky
- Karshkovia
- Kenavt
- Oily Prata or whatever the hell his alias is

Validating: (those not accepted within a week are automaticly rejected)


Rejected/Resigned/Booted Out:

Toopoxia (Aug 10 '07 - no reason?)
No taxes (Tabled - kinda didn't notice you there, not that we wouldn't let you in/Aug 18 '07)
Lord Sumguy (deemed a risk what with the hegamony/Aug 20 '07)
Phalynx (Ejected: Lack of activity, being an arse/Oct 14 '07)
British Londinium (Ejected: Unnauthorized use of Nuclear weapons/Aug 13 '07)
Cranwell (Inactivity, Kicked/April 30 '08)
Ka-Spel (Inactivity, Booted/April 30 '08)

Reserved, just in case

Taking new members, just so you know.

HT, Other people, acknowledge yourselves, roll call (because I like the word)

*edit: adding updated roster, see edit-date at bottom for timestamp.
Current Roster:


ADAN members
(*) denotes upper council

-Antigr*
-Asgarnieu*
-Carbandia**
-Colstream
-Dephire (Founder)***
-Diggledom (Has not posted in 180 days)
-Hurtful Thoughts*
-Logan and Ky
-Megalithon
-Norsikia
-Omni-Sense* (Has not posted in 180 days)
-Terror Incognitia (Has not posted in 90 days)
-Uldarious* (Has not posted in 90 days)
-Upper Highlands (Has not posted in 90 days)


Affiliates/"members", people registered but not in ADAN, restricted access:
Mokastana (Observer)
Gateway (Yes, hes on the members list, applying for ADAN)
Karshkovia (0 posts)
Maldaathi (0 posts)
Kenavt (requested a temporary leave of abscence from ADAN)

Suspended:
-Maldorians
-Greston

Rejected/Resigned/Banned:
-Maldorians
-British Londinium

Well, Colstream and I are good friends, and I participate in just about all his wars 'cos it's fun because I ALWAYS WIN!!!!!!!!

One more thing - I know I won't post a standalone bump until after so many posts, but what if they're aren't any other posts? Should I bump, say...after about a week of inactivity?

Hopefully you can think of something after a week of activity to post besides a standalone bump.

Alliance Latest News


-We have sorted out the bump problem
-Someone has tried to invade me with a naval force and failed before they even entered my waters
-I hijacked the news

Posting this thread's FIRST BUMP!

*begins wait for next page*

Well, I am still around. Bit of activity near my homeland in Novajev. Sent a small force out there. Bit busy IRL, lots of coursework and shiz, so not getting on nearly as much as I would like.

OOC: I'll be putting up some kind of nation post thing for this soon.

The Neo Federation of Megalithon is interested in applying to be in the alliance.

OOC: My nation's population is about 1.9 billion. However, as you see, this is my first forum post for this nation. I've been involved with nationstates for quite some time now. I managed 3 nations in total through time, but all of them had been deleted due to lack of activity. Basically, I quit nationstates before...and now I'm back....again. I'm gonna be a bit rusty in RPing and such, but I'm still interested in joining the alliance.

Megalithon...running background check...clear.

Would you prefer AAN or DAN?

OOCly, we don't mind new guys. As long as you don't say 'I launched 6 trillion n00ks at you and they all exploded you lose', which nobody around here stands for.

For this place you'll need to be frequently active at the offsite - this isn't a sign-up-and-forget place.

Cheers, Telros. Waiting for your post.

And hi, Diggledom, nice to see you again.

Dear Prospective A-DAN Member Nation-States,

We of the Capitalist Paradise of McPsychoville come to you with a proposal. You will have undoubtedly read the list of rules the A-DAN requires you adhere to keep your position in the alliance, and the majority are sound, things we have no problems with. The monkey in the wrench appears with this condition: "If you make a mockery of the ADAN, striking a non-member nation without proper authority, you will not have the assistance of the ADAN". Taken at face value, it would seem reasonable, but go a little deeper, think of scenarios. There are undoubtedly scenarios in which a member nation's appeal to strike will be rejected, and in those cases that member is...not to put too fine a point on it, screwed. It loses the capability of striking pre-emptively against a threat on nothing more than the say-so of another nation without their best interests at heart.

This is our bugbear, and it is the basis of our proposal. We are prepared to offer our military protection and assistance to any non A-DAN nation that requests it, within reason, and we will ask little in return. Barring a colossal war on a global scale, you would have no obligation to aid the defense of McPsychovillian shores and, barring the profligate use of biological weapons, you would have nobody to answer to but yourselves. This offer is, naturally, not available to A-DAN members.

Yours,
Brother Master-Captain Stian Ellingsen

Present and accounting for. I've been away from NS for a while, I'm getting to love Hearts of Iron... :D Also, the Shredderstan war seems done. His nation is deleted.

McPsychoville, that part of the charter tends to mean 'if you strike for a stupid reason or for no reason at all, you will not have the asistance of the ADAN'

Your proposal is a little out of the ordinary - while it will be considered with the senior/founding members, you should really just become a member or go.

And that's our point. What you consider a stupid reason - or, indeed, no reason at all - could easily be seen as very valid reason by the people and the government of the nation actually doing the attacking. For example, there's another nation on their borders who appear to looking very hungrily at the first nation's territory - you would, almost certainly, deem a pre-emptive strike unnecessary and stupid, and thus pull your assistance. We will do no such thing. And you misunderstand - we have no intention of joining your alliance unless we were in some sort of position of authority (and so would not be forced to answer to anyone).

It is a 'stupid reason' as deemed by the ADAN.

...and that's our point. If the A-DAN decides that this is a stupid reason, the unlucky nation doesn't get to do anything, and therein lies the crux of our proposal - we simply want to take away this power you have over smaller nations and give them back their accountability.

I've just noticed another thing...it seems you're saying that the member cannot strike if their reason is deemed not worthy. Yes, they can, just without us.

I partly do not understand your request (mainly due to the fact I have a thumping headache, and am being sick every quarter-hour, so please put it simpler words) and it seems mainly to be the following, correct me if wrong:

'I will defend everybody else except the ADAN, and in return I want you to protect me'

Doesn't make the slightest sense.

Dear Prospective A-DAN Member Nation-States,

We of the Capitalist Paradise of McPsychoville come to you with a proposal. You will have undoubtedly read the list of rules the A-DAN requires you adhere to keep your position in the alliance, and the majority are sound, things we have no problems with. The monkey in the wrench appears with this condition: "If you make a mockery of the ADAN, striking a non-member nation without proper authority, you will not have the assistance of the ADAN". Taken at face value, it would seem reasonable, but go a little deeper, think of scenarios. There are undoubtedly scenarios in which a member nation's appeal to strike will be rejected, and in those cases that member is...not to put too fine a point on it, screwed. It loses the capability of striking pre-emptively against a threat on nothing more than the say-so of another nation without their best interests at heart.

This is our bugbear, and it is the basis of our proposal. We are prepared to offer our military protection and assistance to any non A-DAN nation that requests it, within reason, and we will ask little in return. Barring a colossal war on a global scale, you would have no obligation to aid the defense of McPsychovillian shores and, barring the profligate use of biological weapons, you would have nobody to answer to but yourselves. This offer is, naturally, not available to A-DAN members.

Yours,
Brother Master-Captain Stian Ellingsen

And that's our point. What you consider a stupid reason - or, indeed, no reason at all - could easily be seen as very valid reason by the people and the government of the nation actually doing the attacking. For example, there's another nation on their borders who appear to looking very hungrily at the first nation's territory - you would, almost certainly, deem a pre-emptive strike unnecessary and stupid, and thus pull your assistance. We will do no such thing. And you misunderstand - we have no intention of joining your alliance unless we were in some sort of position of authority (and so would not be forced to answer to anyone).

Assuming this is all under open public channels (otherwise this would all be TG)

Message to Stian Ellingsen
RE: "How ADAN decides what to and what not to get involved with"

Your concern, though it would raise doubt in casual onlookers, is not valid.

There is a system, a very concrete method, for which the AAN proposes official operations, and there are many 'backdoors' allowing unofficial military action in support of fellow members in the event that a single 'rotten apple' tries to spoil the whole barrel by through one method or another, has managed to wrest official control of the alliance from the general membership.

And pre-emptively, I believe ADAN as a whole would either deny you any membership and consider your statement as an act of aggression towards our alliance.

If you would like, we could send you a description of how such decisions are to be met by the military council under normal circumstances. Although I'm pretty sure it is clearly outlined in the charter.

Hubert Pinkerton

OOC: Edit:
So, can we declare an official ADAN war on this guy?
And Mal, have you made sense of the OP:WM thread or should I consider it DOA?

Megalithon...running background check...clear.

Would you prefer AAN or DAN?

OOCly, we don't mind new guys. As long as you don't say 'I launched 6 trillion n00ks at you and they all exploded you lose', which nobody around here stands for.

For this place you'll need to be frequently active at the offsite - this isn't a sign-up-and-forget place.

Cheers, Telros. Waiting for your post.

And hi, Diggledom, nice to see you again.


The Federation prefers to be the AAN division of the Alliance.

OOC: So I just sign up in the off-site?

The Federation prefers to be the AAN division of the Alliance.

OOC: So I just sign up in the off-site?

That and post there occasionally.

A news update on happenings is always appreciated, as it gives us a quick way to see who is doing what and if there are any conflicts we should watch.
(a number of members are actually more active on the offsite than on Jolt for this reason)

Plus it allows Antigr to spam the offsite's OOC with twitching.
I'm pretty sure it was because I gave half of ADAN a complete mental a few months ago.

Hopefully Antigr will get around to validating your account within 48 hours.

Endnote:
It's also pretty easy to hide stuff you don't want the rest of ADAN to see, or specific members (I learned thast trick even before joining GASN), just ask Maldorians, TWSP, or Blackhelm for a firsthand account on that...
*Sharpens knife*

The Federation prefers to be the AAN division of the Alliance.

OOC: So I just sign up in the off-site?

Yes, nation name only, no title. A good start would be to create a 'Hi, I'm Megalithon' thread in the right place. We'll set you a challenge, see if you can find the 'right place'

I'd have said what HT said if I wasn't as friendly. As for a reason for war, uh...lie?

*Notes HT's knife-sharpening* *cellotapes paper target onto mal's back*

McPsychoville - I've discussed your proposal with senior ADAN members and we don't like it very much. Quotes, going from harmless discussion down to hate, not in chronlogical order:

Anonymous:

He's pretty much trying to keep ADAN from getting members while forming his own un-official alliance/conglomerate.

Antigr, since you'r the official AAN MC member, and unless Uld shows up, I'd be the standing DAN rep...

Want to propose a little ADAN-wide war?

Anonymous:

So do I have a unanimous 'screw you'?

Anonymous, in reply to above quote:

So far you have a 'sure, here, have the keys to my Army and my credit card, have fun'

Anonymous:

And as for fuc*ing up the charter (Reffering to deliberately finding faults)....hope he gets hit on the head by one of my mbts dropping from the sky

Epic Edit

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/sjvan0/Ignorance.jpg

In other words, NO

Guys, do you want me to reveal who the 'anonymouses' are?

Most of it is you...
I'd hope he's intellegent enough to guess who made the rest.

As it just isn't any fun fighting someone who can't add and subtract.

But from the looks of things, McPsycho has just been proven wrong...

I partly do not understand your request (mainly due to the fact I have a thumping headache, and am being sick every quarter-hour, so please put it simpler words) and it seems mainly to be the following, correct me if wrong:

'I will defend everybody else except the ADAN, and in return I want you to protect me'

You're wrong. This is all intended to shift power away from these type of organisations, which, in our experience, have been nothing more than devices for those in authority to exert power over those not in authority. If a smaller nation requests some form of military assistance and is not part of the A-DAN, we will aid them and not require help in return; that's the difference between us and you. We don't discriminate based on reasoning.

And pre-emptively, I believe ADAN as a whole would either deny you any membership and consider your statement as an act of aggression towards our alliance.

You operate under the delusion that we are interested in becoming part of this alliance. If that were the case, none of this would have occurred to begin with.

If you would like, we could send you a description of how such decisions are to be met by the military council under normal circumstances. Although I'm pretty sure it is clearly outlined in the charter.

There is no need, we aren't interested in how these decisions come about. All that matters is that they are made by nations not in the correct circumstances to make them.

Guys, do you want me to reveal who the 'anonymouses' are?

Please. We need to know which nation's ships can be freely bombed to pieces, and which citizens have to be arrested at the border.

But from the looks of things, McPsycho has just been proven wrong...

[OOC: Not one of you so far has grasped what I'm trying to get across, so I'll try to make it simpler by using that old chestnut "sovereign right". Nation A has a sovereign right to attack Nation B for whatever reason it chooses. If Nation A is part of the A-DAN, then it can request help. If Nation A's reason is seen as stupid or not viable, the request is refused. This is all fine - our problem is where the line is drawn. A pre-emptive strike on the grounds of Nation B moving troops towards Nation A's borders in preparation for an attack would probably be rejected, leaving Nation A high and dry when Nation B comes swarming in. Our proposal is much the same, just much more lenient - no nation under our protection would ever be called to our defense, then left without support if they wanted to make an attack themselves.

As a sidenote, why do all the members complaining about me seem to think that this alliance is going to be greeted with universal open arms? If, for some reason, the UN were dissolved and China began an alliance like this, do you really think the United States would sit on its hands? And something else on top of that, you people are attacking me because of...what? Pointing out flaws in your charter and offering nations a better solution? I'm happy to fight you over it, it'll be a good way to work off the rust, but seriously.]

Okay, so you've found what you say is a small fault in the charter. Fair enough.

You can do whatever you intend to do without us - it's not for the good of us, so why should we 'have no obligation to aid the defense of McPsychovillian shores'?

Do you regularly go around picking on alliances?

Oh, and this has nothing to do with China forming an alliance. Or the USA's position on joining it. Does this look like the New Chinese Alliance to you? Are you the United States of America-land? Is this a similar position in any way? I think not.

A lot of alliances have the same complaints that you have. If nation A gets invaded after invading nation B unsuccessfully then that's their problem. They didn't get the ADAN nod of approval in the first go, they won't get it in the second.

Such as if you overclock your computer and it goes wrong on you the company won't fix it for you because you breached the warranty. Essentially the same, albeit with PCs not nations, but you get the idea. And it happens absolutely everywhere, so if you're going to complain, complain to everywhere else too - otherwise you're picking on us, and then action will be taken. Otherwise, we'll be getting tired of this, as you have made all your points and soon it will be spam. So I'll ring up the mod cave.

Unless you want to actually challenge our counter-claim that there is nothing wrong with ADAN's reaction time and mode of operation, then I'd suggest this discussion end, as the lines between OOC and IC have already blurred again (mostly thanks again to Antigr).

I'm pretty sure that if McPsycho is volunteering to be 'Nation B', Antigr will gladly play the role of 'Nation A'. Not sure if that would solve anything. But it could be used to demonstrate how ADAN's red tape works so seemlessly.
-Your statement was considered a threat since you essentially said you'd support anyone not with ADAN, thus, you'd be supporting her enemies. Making you the primary backer of ADAN's enemies, knock out the hub, detroy the wheel.

Wait, USA is getting in bed with the PRC?
True, I already knew they were footing the bill (blank check) on our war on terror... but still...

Endnote:
There have been instances in which ADAN, and the former members of GASN, helped non-members for humanitarian reasons.

In fact, that is what most of our military actions have been besides quelling internal revolutions in each other's borders and counter-invading nations who thought they could take over a state weakened by infighting in such a manner.

As for Antigr Quoting the offsite for not much more reason than to increase tensions and to show off a picture of 'a tank falling from the sky'.
-Besides, Anon is many, for we is legion.

OOC:
Great... we have a nation that wants a 'suicide by Antigr', I'll let you know that such things get rather drawn out, contrieved, and painful, plus it most likely won't end the way you want it...

*Sits on porch and starts whittling as he waits for the gunfight to begin, hides a brace of sawn-off shotguns under empty water-trough*

Generally speaking, AAN has to initiate any 'official' pre-emptive strikes.
DAN then shows itself to mop-up after the pieces hit the fan in chunks.

Though I've found plenty of backdoors to get involved long before the shooting starts. But I'm pretty sure we should play this one 'by the rules'.

I'll even let you protest the pre-emptive strike by the AAN as an 'honourary DAN member' just to let you see what would happen. Even though I'm pretty sure you won't.

*Walks off in search for Antigr, who he finds hiding in a pickle barrel*

So, unless I get promoted to AAN and somone else acts as th standing DAN rep, I'm stuck in 'Athletic Suporter' detail, as fun as it sounds.

From: The High Council of Affairs both Foreign and Domestic
To: The Admittance Council of the A-DAN

The Armed Republic of Dynamic Revolution wishes to join this just and worthy alliance. We are currently not at war with anyone (save a few "Black" operations...but then again who doesn't?), also, we are currently in the midst of an economic boom. This council feels that a mutual military assistance pact with other friendly nations would be beneficial for all.

Current Population: 679 Million
Current Military Budget: 1.8 Trillion

-snip-
What I want is to be attacked - be it by one nation or a coalition force - and for them to deal enough damage to give me a proper base to roleplay the fall of the useless government, so I don't see a way this CAN'T end how I want it.
Well, first you'd need to entice someone to actually bite.
Which isn't easy considering Antigr's... er... conditions...
I would, but the only group I have that legitimately could ATM (mostly rebels) really couldn't care less, plus I doubt they'd do enough damage.

It could easily go on forever, with Antigrian occupation forces eventually being relieved by Hurtians. Which is about as much fun as becomeing another one of Undershi's puppet states.

Then there was the time BL just never stopped getting invaded, went from GASN to CA, to SLON, taken by NATO, then SLON again, then it ended with a nuclear finale IIRC... Insert random genocide between wars for the bigger picture...

From: The High Council of Affairs both Foreign and Domestic
To: The Admittance Council of the A-DAN

The Armed Republic of Dynamic Revolution wishes to join this just and worthy alliance. We are currently not at war with anyone (save a few "Black" operations...but then again who doesn't?), also, we are currently in the midst of an economic boom. This council feels that a mutual military assistance pact with other friendly nations would be beneficial for all.

Current Population: 679 Million
Current Military Budget: 1.8 Trillion
OOC: "Nice moves Mr. Johnson"

IC:
From: 3rd tier of ADAN high council
(Was demoted from 2nd)

Though we no longer have the power to unilaterally accept or decline applicants, we have taken the time to review your previous activities.

Aside from some minor rumurs of your forces dancing around in Greal's sewer system, and a purely defensive training excercise, your ongoing military record is clear of any apparent blemishes.

And as a plus, the very high though militaristic social values sen in your nation are considered imacculate by the People's Republic Of Hurtul Thoughts.

[Antigr, you clearly don't understand metaphors. Or in-character posting. Or anything longer than four letters I've said in this thread.

Hurtful Thoughts, you're closer but still don't seem to quite get the crux of what I was saying, although it's not really of any consequence now.

Is the A-DAN is going to attack me? I hope it does, I want to use this as a way to turn an inefficient and too-liberal democracy to a much stronger autocracy.]

Oh! Is this going to go to pure flaming, is it? I suggest you shut your mouth or face the consequences. And this is not the place to come to commit suicide, may I refer you to a British NHS hospital. What do you take us for? Do your own bidding, have a coup. (Yes, public healthcare is nearly dead here now)

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To: Dynamic Revolution
From: Antigr, ADAN 2nd-Tier High Council Member

Your background check is clear and you are accepted, with high reccomendations from Hurtful Thoughts.
Since your country is below one billion, you are automatically assigned to DAN, although at a later date you may apply to move to AAN.
Please create an account at the offsite and be active there, and keep an eye on this thread.

It is with high hopes and expectations that this council celebrates the union of our great peoples.

McPsycho, unable to get his fix of becoming ADAN's whipping boy (again, thanks to Antigr, that coulda been fun...)

Decided to advertise:
Who Wants To Blow The Shit Out Of My Country? (OOC) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=548557)
Apparently his coup is because a woman gets elected...


This may be a tad backwards but...
Can I do a 'humanitarian strike' on him? Oh please, oh prwetty please?
His country already is a known supporter of Anti-ADAN terrorists...

*sighs*

*gives HT credit card and keys to army back*

Be quick.

OOC: how come i cant post on the offsite?

OOC: how come i cant post on the offsite?
*checks members list*

Because Antigr's slacking at validating your parking...

There also happens to be a pre-programmed tow-truck that'll haul your car off to the deletion pile if it isn't validated in a certain amount of time.

*Takes card and keys*

*checks members list*

Because Antigr's slacking at validating your parking...

There also happens to be a pre-programmed tow-truck that'll haul your car off to the deletion pile if it isn't validated in a certain amount of time.

*Takes card and keys*

o haha...alright then..I thought the forum was broken or something.

Sorry 'bout that. Ran outta time yesterday.

Just thought that I should inform you, my actions in Greal are escalating. I don't request any assistance I just figured I should tell you before you are surprised.

Y'all should take some chill pills. Fight against each other IC, and work with each other OOC, or just don't bother interacting with each other.

I have a very itchy finger on the ban button, and it has someone's name on it.

NationStates Forum Moderator
HotRodia

[OOC (BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT SQUARE BRACKETS INDICATE): Wow. I didn't realise you were such a colossal jackass when I decided to ignore you in that thread, that's certainly serendipitious. To explain in simpler terms - I want a justification from roleplaying the rise of a dictatorship, and an attack that sparks off nation-wide riots works for me. At no point have I said anything along the lines of that above - sure, the nation is fairly anti-female, but the closest I came to "sparking off a coup because a woman was elected" was being prepared to roleplay a writer for a newspaper writing a satirical article about another nation's female leader, and having that nation attack as a result.

Now, because you and...really, the rest of your friends here have acted like absolute fucksticks - I won't deny that's mostly the result of them associating with you and Antigr, who have been the prime offenders (and completely incapable of either distinguishing OOC from IC speak or from actually reading what I've written), please don't post in any of my threads again. I like them free of stupidity.]

I aplogise to HotRodia and everyone else except McPyscho for this in advance.

That is it. Shut the hell up and get out of this thread right now. You come here and suddenly see fit to start swearing at us, all because you found a fault in the charter? We're sick of you, we hate you, and I suggest you look at the picture we posted on page two again (click here (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/sjvan0/Ignorance.jpg)) because, if you were standing in front of me, I'd go up into a tall building and do it to you.

I suggest you cool off and get the hell out of anywhere with any decency until you learn some respect. If I were anything but a englishman with a good dose of manners I'd sue the pants off you.

*satisfied* well alright then, I'm glad I'm part of the alliance now...i think...*looks around*

The King has asked that Aagartha join this alliance as it would greatly improve our country's military and political standing. Although we are a small nation, with a small military, we are beginning to expand and have now begun to increase our military forces. Also note, that the people of Aagartha is a nation that values the military, which is why military enlistment is compulsury and survival skills tought to children.

Military spending : 38% and increasing
Population : 6 million

Military Forces:
x3 Infantry Birgades
x1 Light Armoured Birgade
x4 Reserve Infantry Birgades
x2 Fighter Squadrons
Naval Forces under construction

With sincerity,
Prime Minister Kile Sabath
- Kingdom of Aagartha -


OOC :
I'm still a newb, but I was wondering that by joining your allaince I could learn the ropes of rping among other things. Also, I'm active every day, minus if theres bad weather (screws up my internet connection).

Well, honest newbs are welcome. Background check in progress, you'll have an answer by tommorow!

Well, honest newbs are welcome. Background check in progress, you'll have an answer by tommorow!

OOC:
What background check?
He's a standard-issue militrist state...

Infrastructure either has to be kept low or enviroment has to be well maintained (meaning your industry is average/below-average) to teach WS to everyone, and teaching doesn't mean 100% will catch on, as it has a steep learning curve.

Plus, even with compulsary military, chances are you'll get the occassional uber-liberal who won't fight (or the physically/mentally handicapped) which means you'll need a place to set the men with proper medical/religious waivers (which would also strip them of the right to vote hopefully in the case of a mental waiver).

Best to fall back to the 'coin flip' method.
Aagartha picks heads/tails
Antigr gets to flip the coin (otherwise he just twitches in a corner)
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Antigr, let it go, Mr McPsycho isn't worth the banhammer...

You're forgetting my ability to twitch while flipping a coin, HT.

*flips coin* *lands on edge* *swears*

Okay, Aagartha, you're in! You are automatically assigned to the DAN portion of this alliance, please create an account at the offsite if you haven't already and stay active. If you create an account but you're not immediately able to post, I'll be onto it within 24 hours.

McPyscho will be added to the shitlist, if you don't mind, HT.

Thanks!

Aagartha validated on offsite two days ago, forgot to mention. Yes, this is a bump.

It's the weekend, and Prevania hasn't validated. He's out.

LATEST ALLIANCE NEWS


Plotting a 'military olympics' - alliance only!
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...
...
Yeah, that's it. I think everyone's hibernating.

No, not hibernation. Inebriation, and being sickiation...
I think I'm the only known survivor of the Ebola Virus...Ill check the validity of that statement when I feel like it

Wake me when 'nuclear summer' starts to cancel out global chilling...

No, not hibernation. Inebriation, and being sickiation...
I think I'm the only known survivor of the Ebola Virus...Ill check the validity of that statement when I feel like it

No. Just a thing that we men do - exaggerate. Last time I caught Ebola it was actually just a bout of hayfever.

As for a 'nuclear summer', HT, just join in BL's next thread.

Can I join ADAN?

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The Republic of Asizukubya formally requests entry into the Agressive-Defensive Alliance of Nations. Although Asizukubuya is only a nation of 12.000.000, I believe the alliance would stand to profit from Asizu membership in this orginization.

Our nation's location off the east coast of South Africa offers an easily defensible position which would allow ADAN forces easy force projection south of the Cape of Good Hope. The Asizu National Army (aZII) and Asizu National Air Army (aZIUI)are both undergoing considerable expansion, and modernization. With manpower reserves at over 254.000 active and inactive personel, once deployment capabilities are expanded Asizukubuya could commit as many as 26.000 troops to ADAN military and peacekeeping operations.

The Asizu government has no history of instability, and has very few diplomatic ties with other governments and thus represents only a minor risk to ADAN security overall. This would allow our government to maintain its commitment to ADAN Foreign Policy with very few conflicting interests.

We hope that this proposal is met with swift approval by ADAN governing bodies.

- Ambassador Mhambi, Member, Ministry of Foreign Affairs Security Council

Can I join ADAN?

Sure, if you submit an IC request and are approved by background check.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The Republic of Asizukubya formally requests entry into the Agressive-Defensive Alliance of Nations. Although Asizukubuya is only a nation of 12.000.000, I believe the alliance would stand to profit from Asizu membership in this orginization.

Our nation's location off the east coast of South Africa offers an easily defensible position which would allow ADAN forces easy force projection south of the Cape of Good Hope. The Asizu National Army (aZII) and Asizu National Air Army (aZIUI)are both undergoing considerable expansion, and modernization. With manpower reserves at over 254.000 active and inactive personel, once deployment capabilities are expanded Asizukubuya could commit as many as 26.000 troops to ADAN military and peacekeeping operations.

The Asizu government has no history of instability, and has very few diplomatic ties with other governments and thus represents only a minor risk to ADAN security overall. This would allow our government to maintain its commitment to ADAN Foreign Policy with very few conflicting interests.

We hope that this proposal is met with swift approval by ADAN governing bodies.

- Ambassador Mhambi, Member, Ministry of Foreign Affairs Security Council

[OOC: NS World Geography actually doesn't exist. Some, like myself, create our own geography as well as our own nation, and some take real nations for themselves, in the NS 'Earth's, or which there are several. NS world geography is so complex that we just don't look at the science of it - for instance, if your nation has a coastline and so does a nation that you decide to invade, you just assume that you can get from your sea to theirs, the same goes for almost everything else. No science, we just invade and nobody thinks about it. Note that Earths have their own dedicated alliances etc. and are totally seperate. For Earth II, one of the biggest Earths, such threads would be marked with 'Earth II' or 'EII'. The ADAN is not associated with Earths.

As a sidenote, nation militaries never exceed 5% of total population, and even 5% is an extreme, one which will severely damage the economy and such]


ADAN High Council, Second-Tier
The United Federal Republic of Antigr


Your background check is underway.
Please make sure that the full charter has been read, you create an account at the ADAN offsite and stay active there frequently, but only upon acceptance, upon which your offsite account will not immediately work, which will get fixed generally in under 48 hours. The offsite contains most ADAN files, documents, announcements, planning, and discussion as well as random OOC blabbering.

To The Second-Tier, The United Federal Republic of Antigr, of the ADAN High Council,

The Imperial Republic of Greston wishes entry into the Aggresive-Defensive Alliance of Nations. The ADAN nations, as well as we, would allow our nations to prosper. We could pledge large amounts of military officials to wars that fellow ADAN nations are in wars and are in need of help. We have good standing with many alliances and the risk of an alliance ganging up on us because of my nation would be a very small chance. So we would like to hear word on if we are accepted, you may make your background check and other neccisary precedures.

President and Brigader John Batther

[OOC: If you want to check my RPing ability (always important on these boards) you might want to check the old nation Novikov I used to play.]

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

On behalf of all Asizukubuya, we thank the ADAN High Council for its consideration. It is the supreme hope of our government that this alliance will lead to great benifits for the Asizu people and all member states.

- Ambassador Mhambi, Member, Ministry of Foreign Affairs Security Council

OOC: For the sole reason that I have no time for an IC post, I'll OOC for now.

Greston, background check is underway.

Approved.

AAN or DAN, Greston?

No. Just a thing that we men do - exaggerate. Last time I caught Ebola it was actually just a bout of hayfever.

As for a 'nuclear summer', HT, just join in BL's next thread.

Ill be sure to send you a "hot" sample when i feel like collecting some mucus from one of my used tissues....You can do all the tests you want to it
(I see an opportunity for extortion here...all we need is someone to volunteer to go contract ebola. Then we hold the world hostage by simply threatening we'll let him bleed all over in an airport or something)

Approved.

AAN or DAN, Greston?

The agressive one, I am having a brian-fart right now so I don't remember which is which.

'Kay, AAN for greston.
Create an account at the offsite if you haven't already and it will be validated in 24 hours or round abouts.

Bump

[Consider this a poor excuse for a bump]

ALLIANCE LATEST NEWS

IC thread for milympics up - link (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13498206#post13498206)
So far, we've RPed some planes flying. The latest on the taxi stand and more at ADAN.

And the milympics are dead.
Ideas for something else that the ADAN can do?

Other than wars.....ummm...i got no idea yet *scratches head*

Any gripes about the NSUN abolishing the metric system?
I'm not even part of the NS:UN...

Weapons testing and standardization program?
(Which would mean a real big commitment to convince that your stuff is better than theirs, and others get to decide wether you have the best stuff for your men)
Though such things are flops by default.

Though to keep it from getting that bad, it would merely be to adopt an ADAN-supported standard.
Meaning that would be the gear you would recieve after a huge collapse or when serving a tour in the joint-ADAN military.

Thus followed by the formation and training of the ADAN joint-military forces. Which would then tour from nation to nation furthering the training of each associated nation in the many ways and customs of other nations.

Much like a military foriegn exchange student going through boot camp and them becoming an instructor, then going home.

But this is another one of my ideas, instant phail by default.

Can't jump headlong into these sorts of things, take it one tiny step at a time.
Oh, and for weapon selection, w can either opt for an off the shelf interim design, or a joint development project.

A good place to start would be on small arms.
The cartridge of the gunsd would not be determined until after the weaopns had been selected, non-conforming guns in the joint-ADAN list that passed would be fmodified in order to conform or would no longer be supported.

Although 'common' cartridges such as the Soviet, ARAM, and mayhap a few Otagian designs would still be supported by their own manufacturers. (In short, it won't affect your supply, it just means you'll get that much more ammo supply and sales if you conform, Kinda like owning a 20 ga when everyone else owns 12 ga, you can't bum a shell from your friend [and you never cuold anyways] but you could still get some from the store.)

...er...

Well, that says it all really.
Ideas, ideas...

War on BC?
War on A-Hole newbs?
We could invent a joint project on SLBMs or something - not much need for calibre worries there.

who's BC?

Blackhelm Confederacy

Not BC. Hmmmmm, we could... nope that wouldn't work, maybe, nah, ummmm. I've got nothing. Maybe we can hold a council meeting? Or we could possibly declare war on the next annoying newb to show up. I have my eyes set on this one socialist nation that has been threatening me for a while. Maybe when I go to war with him it can become a group project.

that sounds like a good idea:)

that sounds like a good idea:)

All grudge wars are good ideas.

true

Not BC. Hmmmmm, we could... nope that wouldn't work, maybe, nah, ummmm. I've got nothing. Maybe we can hold a council meeting? Or we could possibly declare war on the next annoying newb to show up. I have my eyes set on this one socialist nation that has been threatening me for a while. Maybe when I go to war with him it can become a group project.

Well you may want to name this nation so that others can decide whether or not it's worthwhile. Rather than a blanket suggestion.

I wouldn't want to say yes and then find out your definition of 'annoying newb' is Automagfreak.

Well you may want to name this nation so that others can decide whether or not it's worthwhile. Rather than a blanket suggestion.

I wouldn't want to say yes and then find out your definition of 'annoying newb' is Automagfreak.

Damnit!

The real person is this one little nation named Volzgrad.

**holding a torch in one hand** well let's get him!

First, let's see if me ol' friend Jerry is still 'ere...

*Pulls out massive gun-mortar-fire-doom-weapon thing*

Yep. Let's go.

YAYYYYAAYAY!

If you haven't noticed I am very trigger happy. :D :sniper:

Wondering, but who should start the thread? Should I?

Okay, ADAN, let's go.

Greston, yeah, whatever.
HT, provide funny links.
If Deph is here, he can get the beer.
Carb, you can get the ice, seeing as you're in a suitable location to do so.
Asgarnieu can hijack some weapon shipments for us.
And I'll get the snacks.

Would that mean sending aid to RBI and seeing how long they'd last?
Yeah, I'm feeling charitable...

Or to dig up a link to a youtube against drunk boating, co-starring 'the hook'.

In meantime, this'll have to do.
http://z10.invisionfree.com/ADAN/index.php?showtopic=236
And Antigr, OOC is OOC is OOC.
IC is IC is IC...
OOC is not IC, IC is not OOC....

No funny youtubes or some of those Blastwave comics hilarities?

HT, you're losing your touch. Want a massive, threatening-looking booster jab?

At the bottom of first post through link.
Sorry that they aren't underlined...
I'll fix that soon.

In other news the Proud Nation of the Armed Republic of Dynamic Revolution reached a population of 1 Billion today. The Government celebrated by slaughtering the 1 billionth citizen and his family....the population however recouped its losses despite the governments attempts at irony

Leocardia is interested in joining.

The Dynastic Republic of Leocardia wishes to join [The Red Star Alliance].
Leocardia is interested in joining [ADAN].

Leo, you do know that ADAN is gearing up for war against Volz, right?
And yes, Volz has known for about a day and a half now...

He also knows which nations will be invading him (initially at least, not including jumpers), and perhaps even what with, and most importantly, why.

Unless Kampfers moves first... then he's twisting in the wind..

Why do I have the feeling I'll have to march through TWSP to get to Volz?

Leo, you do know that ADAN is gearing up for war against Volz, right?
And yes, Volz has known for about a day and a half now...

Volz is mine! You can take his pals though ;)

EDIT: TG for you HT

Leo, you do know that ADAN is gearing up for war against Volz, right?
And yes, Volz has known for about a day and a half now...

He also knows which nations will be invading him, and perhaps even what with, and most importantly, why.

I know, I'll declare neutrality, and only send peacekeeping forces composed of Leocardia's most harden criminals.

Volz is mine! You can take his pals though ;)

Take him, and split 20% of his land to me.

Take him, and split 20% of his land to me.

Um what Leo? How did you become relevant in a partition? Not to mention that I am firmly against partitioning him in the first place.

TG to you HT.

Um...
Leo isn't on any side yet, so he has pretty little say in the matter I suppose.
The worst he could do now is join RSA and try counter-invading...
And the world lulzed.

Um... Is it okay if Greston assists you then?
We'll try and stay out of the way...
It really was Greston's idea.

And that TG is now public domain on the ADAN offsite BTW...
So that communication through the alliance is streamlined.
In theory you could TG Antigr and I could respond for him...

But in this case, direct your TGs regarding Volz to Greston, TGs regaring application to Antigr, and TGs for info I dug up on everyone involved over the past week, then TG me.

For some reason I always end up being "the messenger", and everyone likes instant...
I really hope TWSP doesn't get into this furball...

We urge the ADAN not to accept Leocardia into your alliance, they have invaded Greal and nuked Cazelia.

*Post as seen by Sleep deprived HT:
We urge the ADAN to accept Leocardia into your alliance, they have invaded Greal and nuked Cazelia.
Hurtian Dodo: "WTF?" (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/end)

*reads second time, notices 'NOT'*
We urge the ADAN not to accept Leocardia into your alliance, they have invaded Greal and nuked Cazelia.
Oh... right...
Yeah, pretty sure he's got a permement record with the current administration...
My guess is he knew his chances were slim so he tried to jump my scopes when trying to land both sides of the coin-flip...
...
I'm pretty sure none of that made any sense...

You have to realize, Cazelia nuked me first.

Plus, this is a Aggressive Alliance of Nations.

Note, I didn't put defenseive.. Hah.. Hah...

You have to realize, Cazelia nuked me first.

Plus, this is a Aggressive Alliance of Nations.

Note, I didn't put defenseive.. Hah.. Hah...

OOC: Cazelia said it wasn't a nuke, and in response you nuked him with 27,500 nukes, overkill like NC.

OOC: Cazelia said it wasn't a nuke, and in response you nuked him with 27,500 nukes, overkill like NC.

Greal, you are missing the point of RP. And quit flaming. Mods don't like flamers.

You've been talking about death and destruction without me?

*cries*

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Can we all please stop arguing?

...save it 'til 7.00PM 'til 9.00PM GMT so more people can look at the thread.

I don't actually know what 'lulz' means, but lulz lulz lulz lulz lulz.

Seriously, quit it, or I'll get my gavel that I stole.

so am I in or not?
I dont like waiting.

Leocardia is interested in joining.

I'm interested in putting a bullet in your head. As for Kamp. HE"S MINE! I SAW HIM FIRST!

so am I in or not?
I dont like waiting.

Oh and I may have no say in the matter but no. I am a member so Antigr it is the thought that counts. Right?

I'm interested in putting a bullet in your head. As for Kamp. HE"S MINE! I SAW HIM FIRST!

What makes you want to do that?

What makes you want to do that?

Don't know. Maybe because your a giant annoyance who deployed 4 million troops against my allies and then sent a giant wank navy to help.

Don't know. Maybe because your a giant annoyance who deployed 4 million troops against my allies and then sent a giant wank navy to help.

You don't know...

What makes you want to do that?
It appears as though your plan has backfired something royally, and yes, you now at war with me.

If you can walk on water long enough, you may be able to hold 20% of Volz's land until Kampfers steamrolls through your expiditionary forces while I chew through your homeland.

Using up all your nukes in the previous war, and not allowing yourself time to recoup the loss before seeking new conflicts was a very silly thing to do Mr. Warmonger, sir.

It is exactly the kind of behavior not tolerated by ADAN...

Now you are most likely the biggest roadblock between ADAN+Kampfers and Volz, and right now, your country is weak, his alliance is still floundering. Unless RSA hits the ground running, you'd best be learning a new national anthem...
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And here's the clincher:
Additional funds won't save you fast enough, war has already been declared, and as soon as those funds are wired (if not sooner) there will be a war thread up.

Using stuff you bought after the start of a war, and using it in same war, unless it is a prolonged one (and has a note of their arrival by the store-owner), is generally very frowned upon and not recognized in a valid RP.

Calm yourself down HT. CAUSE HIS MY MOTHA..... PREY! I AM GONNA WIPE THE FLOOR WITH THAT ALLIANCE. Excuse me.

Well HT it seems that I started playing with the ball and you guys kicked me in the nuts, stole the ball, and started running with it.

Since I did technically start the hostilities towards Volz and it was my idea in the first place to kick his ass I do believe I should be getting %40 of his land. The rest you guys can take, fine by me. it seems HT might be taking Leocardia so there is even more land then expected to go around.

It appears as though your plan has backfired something royally, and yes, you now at war with me.

If you can walk on water long enough, you may be able to hold 20% of Volz's land until Kampfers steamrolls through your expiditionary forces while I chew through your homeland.

Using up all your nukes in the previous war, and not allowing yourself time to recoup the loss before seeking new conflicts was a very silly thing to do Mr. Warmonger, sir.

It is exactly the kind of behavior not tolerated by ADAN...

Now you are most likely the biggest roadblock between ADAN+Kampfers and Volz, and right now, your country is weak, his alliance is still floundering. Unless RSA hits the ground running, you'd best be learning a new national anthem...
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And here's the clincher:
Additional funds won't save you fast enough, war has already been declared, and as soon as those funds are wired (if not sooner) there will be a war thread up.

Using stuff you bought after the start of a war, and using it in same war, unless it is a prolonged one (and has a note of their arrival by the store-owner), is generally very frowned upon and not recognized in a valid RP.

hey HT, can we get the ball rolling please? Can you post the warthread upon Volz and his alliance and reserve the second post for me.

I claim credit for doing 60% of the legwork in organizing this mess...
But the big red button has been, and always wll be, on your desk, not mine.

Lets see we'll have:

Kampf + Greston on Volz, provided Greston is content just to mop him royally and asist in Kampf-based occupation. Expect Mokans.

Me and, I suppose, Greston against Leo, cause he's there, I'll let Greston have it all.

Me and Mokastana having a jolly romp on the sidelines for no apparent reason, except maybe to drop a nuke of Leo to prove "I has a nuke!".

And the rest of ADAN having a kitten fight with the RSA.

Surprisingly, this war seems beneficial to all parties involved besides Leocardia. Volz may actually benefit from this, since Kampf plans upon rebiulding it in his glorious image.

I must say...I've been watching you guys battle with threats and such...and now it's getting intense..To tell you the truth, it's exciting:p. Maybe I'll join this conflict, if I can.

I claim credit for doing 60% of the legwork in organizing this mess...
But the big red button has been, and always wll be, on your desk, not mine.

Lets see we'll have:

Kampf + Greston on Volz, provided Greston is content just to mop him royally and asist in Kampf-based occupation. Expect Mokans.

Me and, I suppose, Greston against Leo, cause he's there, I'll let Greston have it all.

Me and Mokastana having a jolly romp on the sidelines for no apparent reason, except maybe to drop a nuke of Leo to prove "I has a nuke!".

And the rest of ADAN having a kitten fight with the RSA.

Surprisingly, this war seems beneficial to all parties involved besides Leocardia. Volz may actually benefit from this, since Kampf plans upon rebiulding it in his glorious image.

But, but, but, but, I wanted Volz land. *sobs* Pwease can I. *checks to see if act is believable*

I am okay with it all really as long as I get some Volz land I don't care. Kamp can march in there and flush him down the toilet as long as I get a little bit. Same on Leocardia.

I believe the capitalist know as Kampfers would allow you to buy a fair number of factories and set up an Embassy, a corprate HQ, and a bunch of slave labor. Plus you'll get to do anything and everything that strikes your fancy with Leocardia...

I'll even provide the leather and the whip...

Hopefully that'll be enough.

BTW, that was me being calm... Angry is much worse...

Your ball, er, call...
Unless Kampfers kicks us in the nuts first...

Drink a full pot of coffee if you have to, but anger up that blood already and push the button!

You push the damn button! Ok, alright I will.

I pushed the button.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=552659

I just realized Greston isn't ADAN...

Oopsie?

You guys mind of Mokastana gets a share, for umm....protectorate reasons, to ensure the wellbeing of the people....

Leo land please?

Tralalalalalallalalalalallalala...huh?
*Sees baby in middle of road*
What are you doing there?
*picks up baby*
Your pretty cute
*Punts baby off of cliff*
tralallalalalalalallalalalala.....Why hello there! I just thought Id let my fellow ADAN members know that my nation has surpassed the 1 Billion marker and wishes to apply to be on the aggressive end of the spectrum....well, toodools!
Tralalallalalalalala

It appears as though your plan has backfired something royally, and yes, you now at war with me.

If you can walk on water long enough, you may be able to hold 20% of Volz's land until Kampfers steamrolls through your expiditionary forces while I chew through your homeland.

Using up all your nukes in the previous war, and not allowing yourself time to recoup the loss before seeking new conflicts was a very silly thing to do Mr. Warmonger, sir.

It is exactly the kind of behavior not tolerated by ADAN...

Now you are most likely the biggest roadblock between ADAN+Kampfers and Volz, and right now, your country is weak, his alliance is still floundering. Unless RSA hits the ground running, you'd best be learning a new national anthem...
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And here's the clincher:
Additional funds won't save you fast enough, war has already been declared, and as soon as those funds are wired (if not sooner) there will be a war thread up.

Using stuff you bought after the start of a war, and using it in same war, unless it is a prolonged one (and has a note of their arrival by the store-owner), is generally very frowned upon and not recognized in a valid RP.

You said I was a Mr. Warmonger, yet you failed to realize that you are starting it with me. I am just trying to join ADAN.

And you seem to be getting kind of serious in here, failing to realize NationStates is a game, not a reality.

I just realized Greston isn't ADAN...

Oopsie?

Thats what I was about to point out, but seeing you getting all serious and acting like he is, I had second thoughts and tried to join this alliance.

And can someone tell me why many people think my nation is Communist? Last I checked, it was Capitalist.

Leocardia: Mebbeh because it was communist for so long?

Also, @HT: sorry for the TG, kinda sent it to you before reading this thread ;)

Greston: Look, I would be content in letting you get some of Volz, but then I realize that I'm the one with the bargaining chips here as Willink already threatened you for starters, and on top of that I could mop the floor with your forces in theatre with mine as well as taking on Volzgrad :p But I digress, depending on how the RP fares I might become more inclined to give you a small chunk of him.

Leocardia: Mebbeh because it was communist for so long?

Also, @HT: sorry for the TG, kinda sent it to you before reading this thread ;)

Greston: Look, I would be content in letting you get some of Volz, but then I realize that I'm the one with the bargaining chips here as Willink already threatened you for starters, and on top of that I could mop the floor with your forces in theatre with mine as well as taking on Volzgrad :p But I digress, depending on how the RP fares I might become more inclined to give you a small chunk of him.

Leocardia had announced its leave for communism.

So you guys are attacking a capitalist nation for the heck of it?

Leocardia had announced its leave for communism.

So you guys are attacking a capitalist nation for the heck of it?

Don't ask me, I'm not on your case.

Also, you do realize a few things about your last IC post, namely that a) COMECON-SD is long dead, and b) I am in COMECON-SD so it would really negate your plea...

The Final Say


At this moment in time, I feel Leocardia cannot be accepted into any segment of the alliance due to the tentions highlighted over these past few pages.
Our members are not taking very well to this either so your application is rejected.

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Dynamic Revolution...I don't see why not, but first, tell me why we should. Just one of those annoying tests the evil people with the cruel KGB smiles do. Ah, those people are my role models...

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Mokastana, is that an application to join? What brings you here? (That ain't a rhetorical question, answer it)

Because the DR military stands by the old military saying "Strike First, Strike Hard, Strike with overwhelming force, Strike at night, Strike the flanks, Strike quietly, Strike with no mercy, But most importantly always take the aggressive advantage. Because giving that to your enemy hands them victory."

...Fair enough. Application granted.

More out of interest than anything else, what military forces and equipment do you have?

pshhhh what don't I have

Armored Corps:
Armed with Modified Leopard 2 tanks (LBT 2A-1). 12 Cylinder diesels replaced with 1500 Hp Honeywell AGT1500. 120mm gun replaced with a 140mm anti-armor gun. Each Corp conists of 5 battalions of 215 tanks apiece as well as a support battalion.
19th
23rd
34th
36th
43rd

Armored Calvary corp:
Armed with Modified Leopard 2 tanks (LBT 2A-1), The Cobra armored Vehicle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otokar_Cobra), Puma APC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puma_%28AFV%29), Various other support vehicles. As above each corp consists 5 battalions of 275-290 vehicles apiece
9th
12th
16th
24th
37th

Infantry corp:
Individual soldiers are equipped with the HK-416. The 416's marksman and SAW variants are used in those roles. Issued Sidearm is the USP .45. Cobra Armored Vehicles are utilized for mobility. Each Regiment consists of 1500 troops, as well as any number of non-combatants (Chefs, medics, supply etc)
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th


I will include everything in a bit, but thats for starters...next up the Marines, Air Corp, and Artillery Corp

OOC: I have RP'ed a lot with you guys, and HT invited me to help with the Volz/Leo situation, so consider this me checking you guys out...

depending on how this "situation" goes I may join...

IC'ly: No real reason

IC'ly, say 'foreign interest'

You can use that phrase for pretty much anything. Wars, terrorism, bus fares.
I did the background check earlier, check clear.

AAN or DAN?

*Notes that this is mostly an OOC banter/rant thread thinly vieled in IC.*

*Then hits head on desk, repeatedly*

As for Leo....
Yeah, you joined a communist alliance, you got burned, you tried jumping overboard and then drowned in your own filth.
You'll get whatever you get.

Its happened to better nations.

*Notes that this is mostly an OOC banter/rant thread thinly vieled in IC.*

*Then hits head on desk, repeatedly*

As for Leo....
Yeah, you joined a communist alliance, you got burned, you tried jumping overboard and then drowned in your own filth.
You'll get whatever you get.

Its happened to better nations.

HT I am a member of ADAN the AAN part as a matter a fact. God dammit!

HT I am a member of ADAN the AAN part as a matter a fact. God dammit!

Offsite says otherwise/hates you then.

Yes. The offsite has turned evil. EVIL!
INVISIONFREE DOOM IS UPON US ALL!

*has 17 simultaneous cardiac arrests*

This page's bump

Yes. The offsite has turned evil. EVIL!
INVISIONFREE DOOM IS UPON US ALL!

*has 17 simultaneous cardiac arrests*

JESUS CHRIST!!!
*Begins CPR*
Was it 14 chest compressions or 24?
No wait thats not how your supposed to do it...
I think I just broke his sternum
Damn it that was not a happy sound...
What the hell! Antigr when was the last time you brushed your teeth? No mouth to mouth for you...
Maybe if I hit him with a crowbar
*Gets crowbar*
*looks at mangled body*
Then again why would I even bother...I Completely fucked that one up...
*Walks off humming 'House of the Rising Sun' by Animals wile playing his air guitar*

JESUS CHRIST!!!
*Begins CPR*
Was it 14 chest compressions or 24?
No wait thats not how your supposed to do it...
I think I just broke his sternum
Damn it that was not a happy sound...
What the hell! Antigr when was the last time you brushed your teeth? No mouth to mouth for you...
Maybe if I hit him with a crowbar
*Gets crowbar*
*looks at mangled body*
Then again why would I even bother...I Completely fucked that one up...
*Walks off humming 'House of the Rising Sun' by Animals wile playing his air guitar*

*Goes into a raving fit after seeing such poor handling of situation*

K, there are two methods of doing CPR that are common practice nowdays, the 'old' way, and the 'new' way.

The new way was designed to be nearly idiot-proof, you don't check for pulse, you don't locate the sternum, you just check for conciuosness, breathing, then hammer away and accept that his ribs will pop like bubble-wrap... That one is 12 compresions, 3 breaths, repeat until AED arrives.

The old way was fun, it generally requred the person doing so to be able to locate the victim's artery in the dark, usually completely ignoring a breathing check (no pulse=no breathing, if you find pulse, then you check for breathing, if breathing is negative, treat for drowning/choking), then it required you to trace the ribcage, locate the sternum, and stear clear of the end and heaven help you if you veer to the side. That one was 24 compressions, 3 to 5 breaths.

In the end, don't stop when the sturnum breaks, just keep pumping, doctors will try to fix the broken bones and internal bleeding you've caused anyways... That's kinda what they're paid for...

And why you sniffing his breath?!
BTW, the victim WILL spit up in your mouth during the mouth-to-mouth session
Especially if "ur doin it rong", because in that case you just pressurized his stomach and gave him a nasty case of heartburn...

Good choice of exit music though...

*walks into room*

*notices own dead body and DR and HT bickering*

So you'd just let me die?

*walks into room*

*notices own dead body and DR and HT bickering*

So you'd just let me die?

Your heart was fibulating at about 17 hertz or worse... there isn't much CPR alone can do to save you...

Best case then, short of immediate electroshock, is to take both fists and pound the chest very hard, pretty much to the point you're garaunteed to break ribs with each thrust. After about 30 of those kind of pulses, if he isn't back with the living, internal bleeding would get to the victim long before the defibulator.

Means if CPR is done quickly and correctly, you've got +5 minutes for defibulator.
Hammer-Pulse-starting is pretty much a 30 second excercise of desparation.

And since we KNOW defibulatoion doesn't work on you (and your tendancy to eat every single one in the room), I'd have opted to pummel you to death and blame it on the heart-attack.

*walks into room*

*notices own dead body and DR and HT bickering*

So you'd just let me die?

....I tried to revive you if you remember correctly...If i were to keep going I think I'd have to just dispose of the bo.....

HT...This is a completely hypothetical question...if some one were to ask you what happened to Antigr...what would you say? Also do you have a large wood chipper I could borrow....for chipping trees of course...

I'm shocked and appalled.

If it wasn't exactly what I would do myself, I would throw eggs.

....I tried to revive you if you remember correctly...If i were to keep going I think I'd have to just dispose of the bo.....

HT...This is a completely hypothetical question...if some one were to ask you what happened to Antigr...what would you say? Also do you have a large wood chipper I could borrow....for chipping trees of course...

I'd say you rented the woodchipper from the municipical sanitation department and ran Antigr through it after beating him over the head with a crowbar in his sleep for spamming.

My suggestion: Use an axe. Prefferably Antigr's. I'm pretty sure he still leaves it in the garage, Northwest corner wall, IIRC.

If he's hiding in a closet, smash the one with the louvers while holding the solid one shut with foot/chair.

Erm, hypothetically, if you would be doing such a thing...
Not saying I have any personal experiance in that sort of field...
As.. um... "chipping wood"...

I would also suggest leaving the town of Brennard before Jason gets you at summer-camp...

Gaah...I hope I'm the only one that keeps a German Shepherd.

My zombified incredable-edible Ground/Air-Attack-Tomcat will pwn your invisable G. Sheppard.

Besides, homocidal tomcat from the states vs a German Sheppard in the UK?

Except I'm pretty sure its frame is wearing thin and fuel is too expensive, plus we no longer hold any spare parts...

It would be cheaper to rent one from Iran and give the pilot some hashish...

And yes, my tomcat is illegal and off the record, so if you spot it on Google.Earth....
It means you've zoomed into my house too close for comfort.

Not sure who privately owns his own fully-functional F/A-18F though...

Who said it was invisible?

I'm still in? :D *Dances*

Assist me if you wish...:) (ttp://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=552951)

Link missing letters.

Define: "Europe"

Pretty sure you declared war on yourself in your first post...
You sure you want my assistance with that?

*scratches head in confusion of how the conversation went from disposing of antigr dead body to invisible airplanes...*

You'd really rat me out?...In that case I will simply remind you that 'Snitches get Stitches'

*Dances away humming a certain rolling stones song about a color, or rather a shade....*

*scratches head in confusion of how the conversation went from disposing of antigr dead body to invisible airplanes...*

You'd really rat me out?...In that case I will simply remind you that 'Snitches get Stitches'

*Dances away humming a certain rolling stones song about a color, or rather a shade....*

It was hypothetical, and based entirely on the events in "Fargo"
So you'd rather paint it black?
I'd paint it red.
And you can't eat an F-14...
Wait...
How'd you know the color of my uber-stealthy tomcat?

It was hypothetical, and based entirely on the events in "Fargo"
So you'd rather paint it black?
I'd paint it red.
And you can't eat an F-14...
Wait...
How'd you know the color of my uber-stealthy tomcat?

Spy satellites are amazing now-in-days....

*X'es out of GoogleEarth*

HT, is this mindless spam really that superior to mindless bumps?

EDIT: Page 11! I get another bump!

Well, Mal is still here.

Colstream is joining the british army, so he said he wouldn't be active for quite a while. Maybe never active again...dang, why can't this happen to my enemies 'stead of my friends?

Yah, I'm still here. A bit unactive, but here nonetheless....Also, an invasion of mine is starting to look ugly. I'll signal you guys if I start getting screwed...>_>

Yay! A war!

Here it is. We will only need help in preventing other fleets from arriving. That's it. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=553112)

So, what, essentially, is going on?

If you are fighting Greston, be aware that he's a member of this place...

Quite the opposite. I am fighting alongside Greston. We are fighting against a swath of bandwaggoners and newbies, essentially...>_>

Godmodding, RP-lacking kinda newbies...?

Logan and Ky would like to apply to join your alliance. For information on my current military status check out the thread the Grand Kyan army. For other info on my past operations just check out my posting history and whatnot, especially the thread "revisiting old friends".

...yeah, we'll need an IC application.

Unfortunately, I'm kinda short on time so can you provide links?

ooc: can do, here are the links.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=553209
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=545655

There are the grand Kyan army threads and revisiting old friends threads, respectively.

IC:

Logan and Ky would like to apply to join your alliance. We would be honored to join such a fine organization that will help us not only establish better diplomatic relations, but also prevent disasters such as the Kroandon war that ravaged our country.

Signed,
Erikk Svalbard
President, Logan and Ky

I, Prime Minister Labrie of the United Soviet States of Alexandriov, would like to respectfully submit my nation to membership in your potent military alliance.

Mokastana would like to Join, but merely take an Observer role for now, We shall see how the future holds.

( I don't think I ever actually applied)

OOC: I have a pretty good idea of my nation's overall story arch but that doesn't mean I can't mix her up into some political and Military activities...

ic:
http://myweb.cableone.net/bschott/dipcom.jpg

Office of the Prime Minister
Presidential Palace
Zostar, Karshkovia


Acting on behalf of the People of Karshkovia I, Prime Minister Valentina Borofsky, do hereby submit our application to the Aggresive-Defensive Alliance of Nations as a DAN member.


Signed,
http://myweb.cableone.net/bschott/valsig.jpg

Yeah. For the new guys, and perhaps the more experienced guys too, let me make a few things clear before your hopeful acceptance:

You MUST create an account at the offsite and be FREQUENTLY active there, on NS, and on jolt.
We do NOT tolerate sign-up-and-forgetters.
You MUST have some degree of RP skills.

These are mandatory, and the inactive are kicked out, end of story.

Due to the fact that nobody seems to read the full charter - by the way, do it - we do not tolerate nuclear weapons usage without express permission from the high council.
Before we proceed, does everyone understand this?

Gaah...why isn't page 12 showing?

Mokastana, I think I should inform you that ADAN is currently hauling itself out of a large rut, so I suggest you look to the distant future rather than near future.

Official Mandalorian Message

The Mandalorian Empire kindly asks Antigr and ADAN leadership to not accept Mokastana into our beloved ranks. This scum wishes to declare war on us and then tries to join one of our own alliances! Blasphemy! We thank you for your consideration.

Long live the ADAN!

~The Mandalore.
-Supreme Ruler of the Tyrannical Mandalorian Empire.

You MUST create an account at the offsite and be FREQUENTLY active there, on NS, and on jolt.

I'll say right now, that at MOST I would be posting would be about 1 post a night on an off-site forum. To me it's a waste of time to have to visit offsite forums about NS unless it's to coordinate with others. As a working professional, I don't have time to post 50-100 posts a night like a teenager with nothing more than school to worry about. One a night at the most is what I could do. Some times once a week if I am traveling because of work.

Here I can and am more active.

No Nukes without approval? Fine by me but be aware I have two stories that will be told later that revolve around nukes (one with one going off, another not). I can understand the request to limit nuke in combat but there are other situations which nukes would be used without the approval of ADAN (by terrorists, during internal coups and internal upheavals). I believe those fall outside of ADAN's rule.

Gaah...why isn't page 12 showing?

Mokastana, I think I should inform you that ADAN is currently hauling itself out of a large rut, so I suggest you look to the distant future rather than near future.

understandable, however can we assume all diplomatic channels will still be open? Our goals here are not malicious, we only wish to stay on friendly terms with nations we owe gratitude to and their allies.

So I thought I should tell you. I've been involved in a minor border incursion with Greal. Basically he has ruthlessly ruled over these people, so I sent in a Shadow Opps. Team of trained revolutionaries. Well one of Greal n00b allies (90 million) just Stealth Bombed the crap outta my Capitol "On a hunch" (there is no proven link between my men and me). This n00b has also brought in some more of his noob friends to help him out. As you can tell this is a massive case of bad RP'ing and I'd like the ADAN's help in thoroughly disheartening these fools. It should also be mentioned that they have threatened with WMD's. If no assistance is forthcoming I'd like permission to go "Weapons Free" with my nukes...The proof is in the pudding so to speak...so I provided a clicky!


Utter Noobery is just a click away! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU)

I'll say right now, that at MOST I would be posting would be about 1 post a night on an off-site forum. To me it's a waste of time to have to visit offsite forums about NS unless it's to coordinate with others. As a working professional, I don't have time to post 50-100 posts a night like a teenager with nothing more than school to worry about. One a night at the most is what I could do. Some times once a week if I am traveling because of work.

Here I can and am more active.

No Nukes without approval? Fine by me but be aware I have two stories that will be told later that revolve around nukes (one with one going off, another not). I can understand the request to limit nuke in combat but there are other situations which nukes would be used without the approval of ADAN (by terrorists, during internal coups and internal upheavals). I believe those fall outside of ADAN's rule.

Yes, that would be out of ADAN's line.

ADAN isn't doing much at the moment and you don't have to post every night, we're just fed up of sign-up-and-forgetters and like to know our members are still around. There's a IRC shoutbox at the bottom of every page in the offsite, so you can just occasionally pop a word in there to acknowledge your existence. For the main part, as I said, ADAN ain't doing much but the shoutbox is always active.

If you aren't that active on jolt or NS, or only occasionally, you could be an on-call member (we call you when we need you) but that'll only work if you're not that active anywhere.

---

Mokastana is accepted for Observer status, however following concerns from Maldorians proper membership will be held under scrutiny.

---

Dynamic Revolution, if borders or national integrity is threatened, you have High Council clearance to use nuclear weapons indefinately until borders or national integrity is once again clear.

Please provide a linky to a thread, if there is one.

However, first, please make efforts to educate the noobs of the rules, the stickies, and RPing, and first remind them of the ADAN's existance and numbers.

Personally, I have a population of well over 4 billion, HT and some others will have more or roundabouts, and we do have that ADAN secret massive NBC arsenal, don't we? *nudges Mal and HT* We do, don't we?

Um... not really...

At least none that I'd ever be caught admiting to the existance thereof.
And I've pretty much destroyed those stockpiles too...

Besides, I'm not a nuclear power...

Besides, real NOOBs are like the black-knight from Monty Python.
And about as annoying too...

Though I can drop a quick billion soldiers if it gets really bad...
I may need to borrow some boats though...
Otherwise it could take 1 full NS-year...

Dynamic Revolution, if borders or national integrity is threatened, you have High Council clearance to use nuclear weapons indefinately until borders or national integrity is once again clear.

Please provide a linky to a thread, if there is one.

However, first, please make efforts to educate the noobs of the rules, the stickies, and RPing, and first remind them of the ADAN's existance and numbers.

Personally, I have a population of well over 4 billion, HT and some others will have more or roundabouts, and we do have that ADAN secret massive NBC arsenal, don't we? *nudges Mal and HT* We do, don't we?
.....apparently no one on this forum has been Rick Rolled before.......well I guess i took your rick roll virginity....It was a complete and utter joke...the objective of which is to get people to inadvertently look at the video of the song....there is no war with Greal or nubery.....way to ruin a perfectly good joke by being serious
*walks away mumbling about ppls unculturedness*

...thanks for ruining ALL of ADAN's hopes of a war. Consider yourself egged.

*throws flour*

Who replaced my eggs?

(I didn't click on the link 'cos when I hovered it was a youtube link, and I doubt that had much to do with a war)

Umm...Yea...>_> About that......:D

*shoots Mal*

....damn....well....I guess I'll go start a war then...
*Skips away with shovel*

If you guys are looking for a war, i'm involve in a revolution in my region. It basically starts off with rebels trying to overthrow a leftist government..(surprise surprise...). I'm supporting the rebels....but I declared to support the government at first...so i sent in my troops in the government side of the country. Then apparently I signed alliance (which i completely forgot about) with one of the naitons supporting the rebels...So now i'm doing an "Operation Trojan Horse". You guys would probably know what's going to happen next.

To sum it all up, I'm with the rebels....So if you guys are interested feel free to join. Here's the link:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=552555 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=552555)

Pretty sure you've got it handled.

Me and Deph already beat the trojan horse routine to death...

I managed to hone it to a near-art form, achieving OOC surprise sometimes...

And I suppose niether side knows wich one you'll double cross?
Or are you going to cross your fingers and hope they don't look here or ask you directly?

All who are involved know about this OOCly. it wasnt my idea at all in the first place...until Uiri (the nation who made the alliance in which i joined way back..) reminded me of the alliance. Basically I came in the nation in full support of the government...Uiri actually surprised me, so i had to change the plan

Alexandriov...check clear. Accepted. What segemtn of the alliance would you like to be in?

Logan and Ky...check clear. Accepted. While you only qualify for the DAN segment of the alliance for now, you can 'upgrade' yourself later.

Karshkovia...check clear. Accepted into DAN.

I would like to ask for placement in the AAN aspect of the ADAN

Accepted. Roster up'd. Say 'hi' at the offsite!

I registered at the offsite. I cant post yet though, it says I have to be "approved" or something like that.

Yeah. Offsite won't let you into your account until I tell it you're validated.

...fixed.

Yay! I get another bump!

Bump

So, what can we do now?

tehehe....
*hits antigr with water balloon*

*Eats baloon whole*

Anything else we can do?

*Puts grenade inside water balloon, fills with water, pulls pin, throws at Antigr*
Eat my nations latest and greatest weapon will you...

*takes out AK-47 and shoots DR and Antigr then says he thought it was a water gun*

*head explodes*

ok enough of that...

*walks in, sees bullets firing and ducks*

"SHIT! SHIT! SHIT!

*wakes up*....keep it down guys....*falls on the couch then goes back to sleep*

SHIT!!!
*Flips Table over, Pulls out Jericho Pistol, Sticks over edge of table, opens fire*
C'mon you sob...ill kill you!

*races to gun cabinet, pulls out M16 with attached M203 grenade launcher*

"Say hello to my little friend!"

*fires grenade*

*pulls out radio*
Victor Dog Big Bird this is Romeo...I need air support now! I want it danger close, I repeat I want it on my pos!

ooc: Ive only been joined up for about a week so im still not sure what kind of business you guys conduct here, but heres a little statement from my country...

IC:

Logan and Ky would like to ask the alliance to denounce the Kiravian commonwealth because of their support for a known terrorist/seperatist group, the rising tide. Not only has Kirav accepted their sovereignty, he has also provided supplies and money to this violent group of anarchists. Such behavior can not be accepted on an international scale. Once again, I ask you to denounce the Kiravian commonwealth because of their support for terrorism.

Signed,
Erikk Svalbard
President, Logan and Ky

*walks into room happily*

*sees own dead body*

Ooh, denouncing. We'll have a thinky. Guys, thinky-think?

*Pushes out of debris*
Denounce?...how about blowup?

*looks at Antigr with a confused look while M16 hangs at side"

"Does that mean discuss?"

*Pushes out of debris*
Denounce?...how about blowup?

"Haven't you died like twice now?"

*shoots AK-47 at Antigr to see if he will come back again*

*looks at Antigr with a confused look while M16 hangs at side"

"Does that mean discuss?"

"To the batcave!"

"Haven't you died like twice now?"

*shoots AK-47 at Antigr to see if he will come back again*

*fires "70" rounds into Greston*

"We have other business to discuss!"

pshhhh im the mother effin Jugernaut bietch!
A Batcave! We have one of those?...we're alot cooler than i thought!

*wakes up with wide open eyes*.....A batcave?! Sweet!

*falls to ground and dies*

*walks back in and sees own dead body and others, shoots Meglithon for getting up*

"As I was saying. A BATCAVE!"

*shots greston again for not NOT shooting*

"Now to the bat cave! Do we have one of those awesome cars too?"

*Drives off in Batmobile*

Astater wishes to join this alliance, we are currently being attacked by Griffincrest Inc.

If you are already in a conflict when you join, we don't have to help you.

Please submit an IC application.

Astater wishes to join this alliance, we are currently being attacked by Griffincrest Inc.
OOC:
I think that was the IC...
There is so much irony in that statement I'm not going to try explaining it.

*Smiles widely*

Can we, please?

IC:
Pinkerton paced...

The leaders of the newer member nations had been 'texting' his hotline for the past week.

About a day ago he pulled the cord from the wall...

About 20 hours ago his cell phone started ringing...

19 hours ago he turned off his phone...

15 hours ago he recieved spam chain-mail letters via E-mail.

14 hours and 30 minutes go he modified his spam filter.

Then a single letter slipped through...

Astater wishes to join this alliance, we are currently being attacked by Griffincrest Inc.

He smiled, as it has been awhile since anyone had paid ol' Griff a visit.
Recent intel pointed that his last death was not only greatly exaggerated, but also faked. Thus exonerating CHIA from accusaions regarding the meddling with the foriegn affairs of other nations, again.

Besides, nowdays they had a new inventrion, proxies...

He began to pace again.

sOOC:
K, next April 1st, who wants to claim Blackhelm leaves the CA again?
Because that thread was epic lulz
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520748
You should be laughing as you read this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12428271&postcount=30)
Diplomattic (IC) message:
To: Blackhelm Confederacy
From: People's Republic Of Hurtful Thoughts

Our querry whether or not the CA is harrassing your nation's borders since your reported 'falling out' (source: TWSP), has further unnerved us, considering relations are strained enough as it is.

In response, we are stepping up our satallite's patrols of your borders and we are now sending a number of our large carriers outfitted with our recently refitted and modern aircraft (F-4H2 Phantom IIs) in a show of force, since we are assuming that the CA is currently coercing you into silence or even submitance to their will.

As evidenced in light of recent reports of goings on within your border. Information also recorded by our satallites earlier in the year.

We are prepared to use force if necessary to defend your nation from the CA.

Sincerly,
Leader Milo
Prime Minister of the People's Republic Of Hurtful Thoughts

A more correct term than 'defend' would have been 'liberate' (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=207).

ooc: I may have missed it but did anyone review my request to join DAN? It was back on page 11. (Also, I couldn't find a link to the offsite. Thanks in advance!)

Okay then this is a little complicated.
I have three nations, but only this one's been confirmed onto the forums. One of my nations, the holy empire of Ferad (the barren wastelands region) would like to join, but perdolev's going to have to be an intermediary, the reason it wishes to join is because one of my other nations, Terabuzth, is threatening war.
Ferad would like to join DAN

@Perdolev: You are aware of the concept of 'puppetwank' right?
It seems your OOC doubles are fighting themselves ATM, but what'll happen when an outside source attacks?

I won't outright deny acceptance, I'll leave that up for discussion.

@Karshkovia:
Link:
http://z10.invisionfree.com/ADAN/index.php?act=idx

I'll let someone do a quick review, then I'll double check it if it comes through clear.


Then I'm considering making every offsite admin a group leader, makeing whoever they admit their own problem.

Yeah, complicated. What do we call you?

Karshkovia - yeah, see no problem with that. Granted.

*walks back in with M16, sees own dead self, twice, then sees other bodies and the room completely empty of people besides HT and Antigr*

"Damnit!"

I wanted to get into that APOC/ NATO/ Gholgoth thing. I guess I just have to watch.

ooc: FYI im going to be gone for a few days... I might be able to post once or twice from my location though...

No worries.
Unless...Nwahahahahahahahahaaa

Bump

What are we going to do about the situation with Greston?

Official Kyan Message

Logan and Ky wishes to become a part of the AAN. While our population might be a little small (roughly 1.2 billion) we have a very powerful military and our yearly defence budget is around 5.4 Trillion USD and rising, which is in fact higher than over half of the members of the AAN. Our military has been involved in large scale operations in the past, including a full on war with the now fallen nation of Kroando. We have much experience and we feel it can be better used as a member of the AAN. However, if you feel otherwise, we would be willing to wait until our population reaches your reccomendation of 1.5 Billion.

Signed
Erikk Svalbard
President, Logan and Ky

just got my confirmation e-mail today. I'll post in that forum when I get home from work tonight.

Logan and Ky, you can pride yourself that you have more time and bother to IC than the joint-2IC.
OOC fer now:

Yeah, sure, whatever. But you owe us one.

Official Communique to the Alliance

Greetings Great and Powerful Nations of the Alliance.

The United Kingdom of Cranwell is a relatively small nation state, new to the international scene. We are an island nation, the sea is our lifeline as we are isolated from the rest of the world. For these reasons we have a traditionally small, yet well trained ann equipped army. Despite this, we pride ourselves on our highly motivated and superbly trained and equipped Royal Cranwellian Air Force and Royal Cranwellian Navy.

We wish to enter into this alliance, to offer our services to the rest of the world, and to receive reciprocal treatment in times of dire need.

Yours Gratefully,

Sir Christian Foley
Foreign Secretary,
His Majesty's Foreign Office,
The United Kingdom of Cranwell

Hell - Hurty, can you take this? I'm lazy and I have no time.

Can I take it?

Seeing as you've only been with us for a little while, and you're not even a member of deh high council, no.

But don't worry. Remember the room with the door with the bright light in the window?
Go and entertain yourself in there. And yes, we did child-lock the nukes in there.

Is that a no?

Is that a no?

No he is making fun of me.

Well that is indeed a relief.

Yippee... This and making sure Greston doesn't become a repeat of the CA/New Ausha+TWSP war... (Plus Questers somewhere on the periphial)

Dang, that was the most entertaining war that never happened...
Made Griffy-O do a triple-take when I started blowing truck-sized holes in his airfields...

I'll go over the new applicant tommorow...

Greetings, ADAN

On behalf of Her Majesty Queen Belladonna, I express interest in joining the Aggressive-Defensive Alliance of Nations. Our population is 22 million, spread between one nation and two territories of the Queen's Empire. We request a position in the DAN, but would accept a position of "Observer", in lieu. We hope you consider our application.


Princess Coldheart
Empire of ka-Spel Secretary of State

Co-signed
Damien Rice
Prime Minister of The Dominion of Ugolahn City; ka-Spel Military Headquarers.

That would be ADAN and DAN.

Oops - hate it when you forget things like this?

Background check clear. Accepted, create an offsite account and away we goes.

Erm, am I in or not?

Ah, yes.
This alliance seems to be comprised of those with Amnesia or hilariously large nuclear arsenals, please accept our deepest apologies and things.

While you only qualify for the observer or DAN role for now, welcome to the ADAN.

Would you rather be an observer of DAN member?

Wherever you feel I would be best suited, it is there that I will go.

Well, standard doctrine means you're an observer nation until population is about 150 million...

bump

Greston and BC make with the nicey yet?
Or they still on fire?

Hopefully the fire, I gotta use this brand-new high-pressure fire hose for something.

...that bump was meant for page 16. can I have another one?

Pwease? Oh, pwetty pwease?

...

No?

bump has such a negative connotation....how 'bout something nice....like nudge

Nudge

The Reborn Imperialists of Maldaathi request a position in this alliance as an Aggressive Alliance nation.

OOC: Also in reference to the first page I plan to launch SEVEN trillion n00kz as soon as possible so everyone loses :rolleyes:

Check underway

check clear. Oh, and you either use no 'n00ks' or a good round ten trillion, we don't care for slackers.
Speaking of slackers, IC application? I feel mean today.

Ministry of Maldathian Imperial Interests
Official Communication

After careful deliberation by the body politic over the pro's and con's joining this esteemed alliance could bring for our great nation it was deemed that this alliance would be fitting for both of our interests. Therefore we request entrance as an Aggressive Alliance nation.