NationStates Jolt Archive

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Welcome back, friends.Join us as brothers in arms once more, and we shall be mighty.

Preamble
In the name of protecting Holy Terra, the cradle of all civilization, by all and any means necessary; in order to preserve states with similar goals of environmental protection; to provide a unified front against all those who seek to oppress us, we hereby accept the charter of the Utopian Commonwealth

Article One
Terms of Admittance

-All nations wishing to join must posses a profound respect for the environment. Any affront to Holy Terra will be considered an affront to all member nations.
-Applying nations are highly encouraged to elevate Civil Rights and Political Freedoms to a high standard to ensure the respectability of the Alliance. However, this is not essential to application.
-The basic requirements of the UC-RRF as stated in Articles Three and Four (Integrated), Clause B, must be met.


Article Two
Council of the Commonwealth

Clause A
The High Council is comprised of those nations who willingly join the UC during its foundation. Any other nations who join after this event will have to meet two terms before admittance to the High Council;
-They must apply willingly to the UC and not through conquest,
-They must be officially approved by 2/3's of High Councilors.

The High Council will retain power over all of the UC's major decisions, through a democratic vote over a 24 hour period. Motions which are successful will require a vote of no less than 2/3's to pass.

Clause B
Lower Council nations are those who have been absorbed into the Utopian Commonwealth through conquest, or who have not yet attained full recognition of 2/3's of High Council nations. Lower Councilors may attend Combined Council meetings with High Councilors, however will lack the right to vote. Their opinions are always, however, ready to be heard by the Combined Council as a whole.

Articles Three and Four (Integrated)
Mutual Utopian Defence and the Utopian Crusades

Clause A
All member nations must adhere from inter-UC aggression. Any unprovoked aggression displayed by one UC member towards another will not be tolerated and will end in the occupation and re-administration of the violating state.

Clause B
All forces contributed in the previously mentioned terms of admittance will be under direct control of the High Council. Said forces are to be dubbed the UC-RRF, and to be used primarily in any small-scale UC military operation. All member nations are required to donate 000.05% of their population (respectfully as able bodied personnel between the ages of 18 and 35) towards the Utopian Forces. Nations also must designate sufficient area for the construction of Utopian bases in their territory, with access to the sea where applicable. Furthermore, a minimum requirement of 2,500 USD per able-bodied person enlisted to the UC-RRF must be provided towards maintaining high-quality military hardware and ammunition in the Crusades*.

Clause C
All UC Nations reserve the right for first strike tactics against enemy states, providing the reasons are deemed just by High Council vote. Any approved first-strike tactic is to be supported by all member nations regardless of the circumstances. The unjust invasion of any third party is fully accepted politically (not necessarily militarily) providing the third party nation does not respect Holy Terra. Military support for the invading UC nation must be granted by a 2/3 council vote as normal.

Clause D
Any attack on a UC nation is to be considered a declaration of war against every single UC nation. All UC nations are expected to follow the UC-RRF into battle to defend any UC member to their fullest extent.

Clause E
All member nations must support the Crusade* against corporations willing to poison Holy Terra, should this be the last available option. Thus, all member nations must fully support the destruction of totalitarian corporative states who choose to harm the environment after reaching national sustenance through the unreasoned consumption of Terra's natural resources. Any nation sympathetic to said nations will be considered an enemy and destroyed, regardless of UC membership.

Clause F
All nuclear, chemical and biological weaponry which proves harmful to the regions eco-system are extremely discouraged by the UC. The use of said measures may however be deployed as a last resort only, unless the greater-good to the environment outweighs the initial environmental damage.

Clause G
All nations defeated by the UC are to by implanted with a pro-Terran government, and absorbed into the UC. Said nations cannot be admitted to the High Council without the relevant procedures. All and any military assets captured by the UC in the crusades* are to be donated to the UC-RRF either in equipment or funding.

Article Five
Commerce and the Environment

Clause A
All nations are expected to freely share any equipment and/or technology which may further advance the reduction of environmentally harmful emissions from another UC state. Any major aid towards the reconstruction of a green infrastructure is highly encouraged but optional.

Clause B
All nations must prioritize the development of eco-friendly renewable energy sources if they have not already done so. Developing nations are expected to take full advantage of Article Five, Clause a; allowing the nation the best possible access to expertise and resources to achieve the transition efficiently and effectively. Any existing operations which may prove harmful to the environment or local eco-systems, such as the extraction of fossil fuels, must be granted one-hundred per-cent access by UC inspectors to ensure that the local habitat is preserved as best as possible

Clause C
Free trade must exist between all member-states to advance the pro-green economic power of all nations as a whole. Exception is to be granted where the economy of a UC nation would be severely hindered by this action.

*Crusade [/kruˈseɪd/]: "Any vigorous, aggressive movement for the defense or advancement of an idea, cause, et cetera"
Utopian Crusades refer to any large-scale military operation involving the entire alliance in the name of protecting Holy Terra.

We, the undersigned, hereby abide by the laws of the charter. We swear to meet all enemies of our brethren with all our might, untill they be but dust and ashes.

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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium

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Delpin Hyit, Arbiter of the Confederate states of the Far Echo Islands

Kexarin S. H. Raincedar

Kexarin Sylvanus Hibernius Raincedar, Emperatorix Reginuv áu té Kiraviaix Imperiuv

High King Tirus of The Grand Imperial Kingdom of Delkor

Members of the Lower Council


The Kingdom of Torvque
The United Republic of Anagonia

ooc: after the war's end the government underwent a little reform, once again I am the Confederate States of TEFI, the leader is the Arbiter, and the back up is the Vice Arbiter and the Capitol is a city in the east called Dolphinea.

IC:
After much debate, we have decided to join this alliance. We hereby will abide by the charter's laws and fight all enemies until they are but dust.

Signed,
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Arbiter of the Confederacy.

The Red Tidean Government noted the reformtion of the Utopian Commonwealth only once: in its state-run news media.

"In other news, the nation of Nova Pictavia reformed the imperialist, bolshevik alliance known as the Utopian Commonwealth. For those who lack memory, this group devotes itself supposedly too the 'enviroment'. In reality, it is merely a cover too further the national sovereignty violating bolshevik scum, who wish nothing more then too impose their system of anarchy on every nation, no matter what system of government they have at the time."

In the meantime, the Red Tide Government would continue freely expanding its polluting steel mills, metal works, coal powerplants, and munitions factories. As well as continue dumping the excess wastes in nearby rivers and air.

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Kiravian Empire

Permissum Astrum Subleuco

Imperial Secriat of State

Utopian Commonwealth Office

The Sovereign Kiravian Colonial Empire fully agrees to this charter, and will enforce an implement its laws. We are hnoured to rejoin our closest allies in our fight for the sanctity of the Earth. May your swords stay ever sharp. Permissum Astrum Subleuco!

Kexarin S. H. Raincedar

Kexarin Sylvanus Hibernius Raincedar
Emperatorix Reginuv áu té Kiraviaix Imperiuv

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Official Communiqué

Friends of the Imperium,
We are so highly honored to have allies so valiant, who never fail to stand side by side against evil.

May the light of your nations dwell in eternity.

Enemies of the Imperium,
Your Time Will Come,

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

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Official Communiqué

Friends of the Imperium,
We are so highly honored to have allies so valiant, who never fail to stand side by side against evil.

May the light of your nations dwell in eternity.

Enemies of the Imperium,
Your Time Will Come,

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

And the same of yours.
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Upon the Empire's reentry into the UC, a grand celebration fired up in Mesoarbourea.

Mesoarbourea was home to Terranist Londinian-Kiravians, as well as Kiravian converts to Terranism and Territheism. The flags of the Empire, the UC, and its members were flown afore fireworks, and a statue of Gaius Kadesh was unveiled in front of the Mistwood Terranist Parish.

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Federation of Telros


The Federation is troubled by this alliance, with the charter advocating first strikes, however unjust, if the nations of the UC are in the belief that their enemy is harming the environment. How are we not to harm the environment? We cut down trees, make farmlands, and use the land to sustain ourselves and our nations. True, we do our best to give back but if we do not do so to your standards, you do not have the right, nor the power to force your will on others.

We will be watching this alliance in the future.

Let us clarify:

We are after all, human, and to sustain a human civilization, you must harvest rescources of the land. The level that you preform it on is normal, healthy, and keeps the environment blanced, and the population satisfied. You do not deliberately harm the environment for the sole purpose of doing so for pure economic greed.

The nations we refer to are totalitarian corporate states that have absolutely no respect for the planet. Incidentally, these states are often those who also threaten the ideals of the free world, and have proven threat to noble nations.

Worry not, Telros, we have no intention of invading you. Merely by stating that you DO at least try to give back to the ecosystem, you are considered honourable to us.

OOC: Kirav's comments are correct, I shall edit the charter to reflect this (Intended) stance instead. Thanks.

From the Office of Dr. Rhyden Bhaerra,
Addressing the Concern of the State of Telros,

Dear Sirs,
Firstly, allow myself to clarify my position. I am Pictish, yes, however I come from an increasingly rare minority of religious agnosticism. I do not worship Holy Terra. Thus, I feel I am free to comment on the admittedly Terranist
doctrine of the Utopian Commonwealth with substantially less bias. Terranism, behind all the flamboyant decelerations of celestial worship, can be viewed simply through its mechanics. Yes, in the times of the ancients, it found its roots of the worship of Holy Terra through the Paganism of old, however the protection of the environment is not only required to maintain the survival of Earth, but the survival of the Human civilization. The encompasses every-single person on the face of the Earth, political stance irrelevant.
Finally, in reference to the doctrine itself, (Which admittedly adopts a tone of 'fire and brimstone') one must turn their attention to the preamble, which lays out the organizations primary aims. And I quote:
"...in order to preserve states with similar goals of environmental protection; to provide a unified front against all those who seek to oppress us..."
Regarding my Kiravian colleagues comments, he is absolutely correct, and should you require any further clarification please do not hesitate to contact myself.

Regards,
Rhyden A. Bhaerra
Dr. Rhyden Bhaerra,
Independant Ideological Expert of Terranism and the Utopian Commonwealth

OOC: Addressing Kirav and Echo,

I believe that in order to recruit more members, we should highlight the more pro-environmental aspects of this alliance rather than the defensive initiative. It occurred to me when I was looking at Solenials post; that him/herself and Shiloba who also took part in the Red Seal thread would be far more willing to join this alliace if it was so.

Err...
Any ideas?

ooc: maybe we should make this less of an alliance and more of an agreement to help the enviroment, with an unspoken defense clause between member nations that whish for it. In other words, agreeing to help the enviroment and to help each other because you share similar views. maybe...

OOC: I don't know, an unspoken defence-pact could be awful shaky. I think it would just be more appropriate to highlight Article Five of the Charter in particular, perhaps begin pro-environmental economic aid and international technological development? Its just that with the mutual-utopian defense were bound to be better off, and I like the Idea of a Utopian 'Superstate' which effectively acts as one multi-political devolved entity.

Also, just an Idea but what about a city solely committed to the UC? We can build it up from the ground, name it, develop a truly inspiring pro-environmental infrastructure and use it to test new technological developments such as skyfarms et cetera. It could be partially atmospherically sound to help contain against biological attacks and pollution; more of a biodome-city than a regular UC capitol. It could also be built over the proposed Kiravian 'Doomsday Ark', or at least be a sister-refuge. Its something I don't recall seeing an alliance do in II.Just a thought though...
(I envisage this as our own take on a large-scale city structured 'Eden Project' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eden_Project))

ooc: yes, I say we go ahead with EP. The Kiravian Doomsday Ark generated outside intrest despite being closed, if we leave EP semi-open, then may be it'll prompt some to join the UC.

Brilliant, both of ye. Excellent idea.

OOC: Alright, I'll get started on a R&D thread immediately, then we can tweak and construct the damn thing!

The Thread is up (Here) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13189006#post13189006), Its really just an introduction though to rope in potential interest, I need you guys' help for the actual development and statistics. We'll just have the thread a relaxed IC-OOC combination like this thread so we can actually get this thing going without having to worry much over formalities.

Bravo!

The reason for posting this here is that I am looking for the advice of UC members only on a couple of things...
When the R&D for the UEP (Utopian Eden Project) is complete, where will the thread actually be located? I have no idea whether to place it here, on the same thread as the first or in a completely different thread... I used actual concept art of the Eden project for the R&D and hope to use photographs for the finished product. Also, while the technical 'nuts & bolts' aspects belong in the R&D thread, would anyone abject to naming and locating the City here? Because with the speed at which R&D is going we'll have to seriously start considering a location and title. Arg...

As for my 'Green' WMD... Well I admit it was actually a crazy idea. I was just thinking about how I could environmentally explain glassing Ryou, then I decided it would be better to make the entire RBI infertile instead (Not that I intended to, just one of those moments I guess :p ). Aside from that, more comments would be welcome in the news-report thread so I could get an idea of whether or not to actually take it further!

Cheers guys,
~NP

Anything that involves kicking Ryou's ass is good in my book.

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FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MR. LARRY WILLIAMS
We don't really care about this little alliance and will do whatever we wish to our Nation. If we wish to slash our forests, dig up our land for radioactive materials and anything else we wish.

If any of you have a problem with that, then you can kiss our National Soverignty.

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Official Communiqué

Open Declaration:

Shazbotdom, I'm am fairly certain that Questers is about to do more than kiss your national sovereignty. Good luck with that.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

Official Correspondence from the People's Republic of Southeastern Greenland

The People's Republic of Southeastern Greenland is interested in this alliance and hereby agrees to everything in the charter upon the permission of Pictavia. There may be only one problem with our acceptance, because currently we are being invaded by the Totalitarian State of Red Tide2 because of their support for a political party that recently attempted a violent coup.

Signed,
Prime-Minister Albers Jacobsen

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Official Communiqué

Open Declaration:

While, normally we would be honored to have the people of Southeastern Greenland as allies, I feel I can speak for the rest of the UC when I say that we cannot support a military campaign against a nation of Red Tides stature.
Thus, entrance to the UC would not include defencive actions undertaken by the UC to counter any undergoing conflicts in the applicant nation.
Besides this, The Pictish Imperium shall support the application of Southeastern Greenland. Acceptance pends the decisions of our other members.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

From The Desk of Citizen Norheim, President of The United Socialist States of Yanitaria:

I have run the decision of whether or not to apply to join the UC past parliament. After a small debate, and much citation that no actual action would have to be taken to make our nation any greener, and the interest of technology, the environment, and commerce, we would like to apply to join the Utopian Commonwealth.

However, the minority of MP's not wishing to join hold concerns that are universal throughout Yanitaria. First of all, would the adoption of Terranism be required? The USSY is a notably atheist state, with only 1% of the population holding any theistic beliefs, and another 1% holding non-theistic religions, or simply reverence to tradition.

Second, our economy at the moment has gone into a major relapse, with a 2% increase in unemployment, a $2,500 USD reduction in the GDP per capita, and a 4.6 Billion USD increase in our trade deficit. At the moment we are taken emergency measures to right our economy, including protective tariffs. We would like to be exempt from any free trade agreements until our economy is righted.

And Finally, we would like to create a Ministry for Environmental Protection, but would like an advisor from a more ecologically experienced nation to become the head of this ministry.

Also, the USSY has just acquired Okhotsk Island (http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i156/UNDComrade/NewIsland.jpg), and a small, environmentally stunning, but as of yet unnamed tropical island (http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i156/UNDComrade/unnamedisland1br8.png). We would be willing to donate the second island, or allow development on the first, which is sparsely populated (the map given is actually a representation of what the island is planned to be like. As of yet only a few Russian speaking fishing villages are there. We had planned to make it a ecologically and scientifically Utopian center for research).

We hope that you will accept our petition to join.

Sincerely,
Citizen Mattias Norheim,
President of The United Socialist States of Yanitaria

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Official Government Response

We would never go around forcing religion on anyone. Secondly, I will leave it up to my commrades to decide what to do about your economic situation as this nation is recovering from a double dose of wars that ripped apart the two largest cities. Next, I would fully support your enterance to the UC. As for your enviromental adviser, we would like to confer with the other members as to who will send the adviser; but one will be sent. Finally, we whish you luck with your new Island! Keep it clean and green!

Signed,
Robert David
Sectary of Ecology

To our Comrades in The Far Echo Islands:

We thank you. Hopefully our nations will be economically right again.

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Official Communiqué

Open Declaration:

The PIctish Imperium would welcome the state of Yanitaria into the commonwealth. Since the Far Echo Islands have already voiced their support, then that makes a two/thirds positive vote. Subsequently, welcome to the Utopian Commonwealth. You will now be able to actively take part in the Utopian Eden Project, and your Pictish Embassy is being relocated to the inner-sphere.
Now, to address some of your concerns; Firstly, no, you do not have to adopt Terranism. The charter was merely written by Terranists, hence the theological slant. As for economic aid, I feel positive that the UC will gladly help stabilize your economy, however again I cannot speak with certainty for the other members. We will also open-up the floor for a voluntary minister of the environment to make him/herself known.

Thank you,

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

To The Utopian Commonwealth:

We do not wish foreign aid. The situation has not gotten so severe that we require money. However, we would like to be excluded from the free trade agreements that the charter calls for, until our economy returns to a sufficiently normal state.

In any case, we thank you for allowing our nation to become a member of the Utopian Commonwealth.

While the vote matters not at this point, for the record, the Kiravian Empire fully supports Yanitaria's entry into the UC. Welcome, Yanitaria.

As for your concern on Terranism, I can do little more than restate what my comrades say, It will not be forced upon you, and Terranists are only a small part of the population in the KE and CFEI. We stand for freedom of religion or lack thereof, and would not impose any socio-religious system upon a member or a conquerate.

All said, Welcome to the Utopian Commonwealth.
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CIncerning SOutheastern Greenland:

We vote in favour of your admission.

We also are saddened to hear that you are under RedTidean invasion. THey have threataned the UC before, and currently occupy my ally of Fordock. As much as I, and we, wish to help you, our combined military is about 1/10 of the size of RedTide2's military, and all of us would be crushed in the process.

I recommend you contact Fordock and ask him about which tactics, strategies, etc., work against RT2.

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Official Communiqué

Secure Transmission:
As the vote on Southeastern Greenland's admission began with three members, before the Yanitarian application, then the 2/3's majority requirement is met. Welcome to the UC. HOWEVER; due to the ensuing war I feel asthough I cannot grant a vote for full membership, thus any membership, unless countered by either KE or CFEI, would be on the lower council only. This may prove to only be temporary however, and should current events sort themselves out then the right to vote in the UC may soon be attained.

While we are pained that we cannot overtly aid you in the war against RedTide, I have no intention of watching us lose a UC member. Weapons, will be the trade, and the establishment of an insurgency against RedTide should you fail to reach a peaceful solution before the occupation begins. You will not win this war, but you can put a thorn in RedTides foot. Find a big enough thorn, and you may just have your freedom.

This, however, is a game which we must play safely. All RedTide needs is the most insignificant excuse to bring the UC to its knees. Rothesay, one of the most beautiful cities in the Imperium was burned to the ground because RedTide was enduring unrelated Terranists riots at home. The State cries for war, and we wont give it that pleasure.

Plus Ultra, my friends.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

OOC: NP, check the LION thread on page 2.

Official communication to the new UC:

Delkor is a proud nation, and we support those who once stood by our side in battle. I pledge my full support to this alliance, and will open my seaports to my allies. May we fight for the just, and forge an everlasting future!

Tirus, High King of the Grand Imperial Kingdom of Delkor

We are proud to have the most honourable nation of Delkor at our side once again. Your sons and duaghters fought and died alongside our own in the Crusades, and that shall not be forgotten.

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Official Communiqué

Welcome home, Delkor. Here is your sit-rep:

Firstly, the Kiravian Empire began the development of a 'Doomsday Ark'. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542359) The project, despite being closed to the UC and the CN was an overwhelming international success, leading to the incorporation of the ark into the newest UC project; The Utopian Eden Project (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542431). A member of the UC Lower Council: Southeastern Greenland, is currently under invasion by TSRT. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542284) Since the war was underway prior to SeG's application, the UC has voted in favor of neutrality. A new alliance, similar to EVIl has been established by Vontanas, named LION (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542410). The alliance was surprisingly adamant that the Pictish Imperium should apply, however in the end we declined and proposed a non-aggression pact between LION and the UC. A decision has still not bee reached on that front. As for another of our new members, Yanitaria (who is also temporarily on the lower council pending RP skills), has a factbook located here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=540824) The Kiravian Empire was also upto something in The Peoples Freedom (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=541363), although I don't have the slightest on the situation there. Finally, our Echoese brothers have regained international confidence and elected a new Socialist government (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542316).
In terms of Pictish news, The Imperium is currently expanding in western Europe, the Mediterranean and North Africa as part of a new phase in expansion. The invasion of Gibraltar and Andalusia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542279) is currently underway. The Imperium has also developed a new chemical weapon (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542467) in the aim of it being more humane and environmentally friendly than others. Finally, a proper Pictish Ambassadorial program (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542461) has been established, and we would be honoured if you would apply.

That is definitely take from a pro-Pictish point of view, as many Kiravian and Echoese exploits are missing, so they'll have to give you the lowdown on that. You're aware of the glassing of British Londinium by AMF I suppose since it happed a while ago now.

Plus Ultra, my friend.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

Secret Transmission to Nova Pictavia:
We thank the nation of Nova Pictavia, we understand why we are not granted full membership. We will use every force at our use to wound the large giant that is RedTide, from sabatoging their supplies to posioning their soldiers. They will lose the will to fight, and our people will be saved.

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Official Communiqué

Welcome home, Delkor. Here is your sit-rep:

Firstly, the Kiravian Empire began the development of a 'Doomsday Ark'. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542359) The project, despite being closed to the UC and the CN was an overwhelming international success, leading to the incorporation of the ark into the newest UC project; The Utopian Eden Project (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542431). A member of the UC Lower Council: Southeastern Greenland, is currently under invasion by TSRT. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542284) Since the war was underway prior to SeG's application, the UC has voted in favor of neutrality. A new alliance, similar to EVIl has been established by Vontanas, named LION (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542410). The alliance was surprisingly adamant that the Pictish Imperium should apply, however in the end we declined and proposed a non-aggression pact between LION and the UC. A decision has still not bee reached on that front. As for another of our new members, Yanitaria (who is also temporarily on the lower council pending RP skills), has a factbook located here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=540824) The Kiravian Empire was also upto something in The Peoples Freedom (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=541363), although I don't have the slightest on the situation there. Finally, our Echoese brothers have regained international confidence and elected a new Socialist government (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542316).
In terms of Pictish news, The Imperium is currently expanding in western Europe, the Mediterranean and North Africa as part of a new phase in expansion. The invasion of Gibraltar and Andalusia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542279) is currently underway. The Imperium has also developed a new chemical weapon (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542467) in the aim of it being more humane and environmentally friendly than others. Finally, a proper Pictish Ambassadorial program (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542461) has been established, and we would be honoured if you would apply.

That is definitely take from a pro-Pictish point of view, as many Kiravian and Echoese exploits are missing, so they'll have to give you the lowdown on that. You're aware of the glassing of British Londinium by AMF I suppose since it happed a while ago now.

Plus Ultra, my friend.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

[OOC: Wait? I'm doing something in TPF?]

As for Kiravian news:

We've recently begun our "Doomsday Ark" Project as Nova Pictavia mentioned.

Also, we are preparing forces to invade the Bosporous, Bulgaria, Scandinavia, and Germany in support of the Pictish conquest of Europe.

Meanwhilst, our own expansion was compormised, and we are in diplomatic disfavour with several nations after trying to force the New True Cross to cede us an area of land. Imperialism is BAAAAD, kids.

>_< Sorry, I meant NTC, not TPF...

Oh. Understood. These acronyms get pretty confusing. AMF, BL, CN, UC, NP, CFEI, NTC, TPF, TWSP, UFAN, LS, etc.

Now what REALLY confuses me is all the "V" nations. We've got Vetalia, Vontanas, Vetaka, etc...

OOC: I have a new thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13198081#post13198081) featuring the launch of me new submarine. All members of the UC are invited. Please RP as if you are already present. Oh, and after the "public" appearence, we would all move to a secure place for more proper discussions...

A Pictish representative is already en-route...

Kiravian rep has arrived.

A Yanitarian rep will arrive shortly via helicopter

From the Yanitarian Ministry of Economy:
Our economic crisis is over! We would be glad to open our markets to free trade from our allies in the UC

We also ask that our allies establish an embassy here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=541063).

OOC: Incidentally, government run prostitution does wonders for the economy.

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Official Statement:
Following the inclusion of the USSY into the free-trade agreement of the UC, Soleil Scientific Resources, a government subsidized syndicate for the manufacture of the Imperium's greatest domestically produced defence technologies, we wish to expand our base of operations into every member state of the Commonwealth.
The Soleii (plural: sol-eye) Trust anticipates your reply,
Regards,
~Soleil

From Otto Knapp, Minister of Commerce.
To: Soleil Scientific Resources

We would love to have a new company expand with in our borders, especially one assured to be as eco-friendly as any company from Nova Pictavia.

Sincerely,
Otto Knapp,
Minister of Commerce.

Since the war between RedTide and Southeastern Greenland is over, we request that we are given full membership.

Since the war between RedTide and Southeastern Greenland is over, we request that we are given full membership.

We second this.

We shall cast a vote of opposition, believing that Southeastern Greenland is still not ready for membership of the High Council. While we greatly value their brotherhood, we ask that the Commonwealth be patient in this aspect so as to truly analyze the potential of Southeastern Greenland and USSY in the international arena.

When the time comes, the Imperium will re-cast her vote. The Kingdom of Delkor and the Kiravian Empire are still to vote, and I urge them to take my advice.

OOC: I'm actually grateful for the Yanitarian and Southeastern Greenland membership, however I do feel that before we award you the power of the vote in the High Council, we will have to see evidence of developed RP'ing skills. No offence is meant by this in any way at all, its just a learning curve on the forums. If you have evidence of quality RP'ing skills, then feel free to post the link to the thread as well as to the individual posts in question. Thanks.

Delkor agrees with our friend, Nova Pictavia. RP experiance is needed for this kind of involvement. We have worked with NP before, and have come to trust his judgement in these matters...

Octavious, Speeker for the King

Delkor agrees with our friend, Nova Pictavia. RP experiance is needed for this kind of involvement. We have worked with NP before, and have come to trust his judgement in these matters...

Octavious, Speeker for the King

This leaves the final and deciding vote with the Kiravian Empire.

This leaves the final and deciding vote with the Kiravian Empire.

ooc: yea, he won't be back 'til later, this is a quote from a TG he sent me:

Damn. That does not bode well. I'll be down in la Florida most of the weekend.

In which case the vote is closed, lacking the required majority needed to win the vote for Southeastern Greenland. For now, Southeastern Greenland shall remain in the lower-council until her international prowess has been proved.

"The High Council will retain power over all of the UC's major decisions, through a democratic vote over a 24 hour period. Motions which are successful will require a vote of no less than 2/3's to pass."

I wish to apply for a high council position. As proof of my RP skills, this post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13208734&postcount=25) is the first of what will be quite a few. (The thread it's a part of (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542279))

I'll understand if you wish to see further posts. After this I am going to write up the second post.

OOC: Southeastern Greenland, if you wish to continue pressing your application then definately bring up some RP'ing examples

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Imperial Communiqué

Open Declaration:
The Yanitarian application is fully supported by the Imperium. We are now pending votes from Delkor, The Kiravian Empire and The Echoese Confederation. Relating to the proposed capital of the Utopian Commonwealth, known as the 'Utopian Eden Project', Soleil Scientific Resources shall be given full authority to begin construction under Imperial supervision should the majority of UC members not offer any further guidance over name and location.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

Delkor seconds the Yanitarian application. We welcome them into our counsel.

Octavious, Speeker for the King

The Kiravian Empire supports Yanitaria's admission.

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Imperial Communiqué

Open Declaration:
The Imperium is under attack once more by the barbaric hordes of British Londinium. Pictish Marines serving in the Invasion of Iberia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542279) have been gassed by Londinian bombers while enemy legions are on an intercept course. The Imperium would like to bring this to the attention of the Commonwealth and most honourably request aid in the Mediterranean against the demonic Londinian armies.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

OOC: Link me the war thread, please.

IC:

The Kiravian Empire is suprised that the Londinians are in any shape to attack. Nonetheless, forces are being loaded onto the ships of the Eighth Fleet as we speak.

There's links both in the text of my last post and in my signature under 'Invasion of Iberia'

Si. I've begun the invasion of Northern and Northwestern Europe via Poland.

So, is this Europe a replica of RL, MT Europe, or is it different geopolitically?

Its basically whatever you make it to be. Other nations already have interests in the continent, colonies and such like, and I originally intended to be invading a large Spanish Principality spanning the southern half of the nation.

Ah. Understood.

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Imperial Communiqué

Open Declaration:
*Cough*Londinians gassing and incinerating my troops*Cough*Please help*Cough*... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542279)

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

Check your TG's NP

It was about time to renovate the Pictish Imperium, so here are a collection of images for the Imperium's new look which many of you will have noticed developing over the past few weeks. This also serves as a small bulletin of things I have in store for II, and of course, comments, criticisms and advice from the Commonwealth are more than welcome:

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The Imperial Flag, can't get it small enough for NS though...

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The Imperial Seal, lots of time spent swearing at my mac on this one, but I am pleased with the outcome. As with the flag, the Wolf'shead was used as the Imperial symbol. It is actually the Griever's head from Final Fantasy VIII, with heavy synthetic modifications.

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Terranist's Emblem: I decided it was about time to give them an official sign of some sort. Keeping in theme with other religions, the symbol is simple and, well, symbolic. It is intended to represent Terra and her atmosphere

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Soleil Scientific Resources, a logo which you probably have alreasy seen. I aim to develop this into a fully fledged storefront. Right now, the 'Green Weapon' and an unnamed Unmanned Ground Combat Vehicle are still in development and intended for future release.

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Ahh, the Imperial News Network- This is intended to become a full News Feed once it gains some sort of International recognition on II. For now though, you may already have seen this logo accompanying Imperial related news-stories posted by myself.

Great graphix, NP!

It makes me want to possibly allow the toleration of the consideration of the thought to think about looking into researching the slightest and near infinitessimal possiblitiy of buying a Mac.

I'm way too loyal to Microsoft.

OOC: I love the new designs. I use a PC for my graphic editing, but I am pretty sure the quality difference can never accurately be chalked up to the hardware, and should instead land on the artist.

I hold no loyalties to microsoft. I use their OS simply because it plays games. But if I really had to choose an OS for a non-gaming PC, I'd go with the work of that commie from Finland (sarcasm, it's just that the idea of open source is vaguely communistic), Linux. Partly because I love the ideals of the open source community, and partly because it's the best.

Ah, well, enough ranting. NP has inspired me to work on a new seal to compliment my new flag (which can be seen on either my fact book entry, or my nation's page on Nationstates).

Is it just me, or is everyone revising their flag? Some people ought to have their computers smashed for making such ugly designs. Although I really can't talk, now can I?

Thanks both of ye. I endedn up buying a mac when I aw various article comparing their specs to a comparably priced Dell, and was convinced that the Mac was far better value for money. This of course, did come from a long swearing match between me and windows, but I have to say it was by far the right choice. As for games, I could never keep my PC upto spec anyway for all the latest FPS's et cetera, so it doesn't bother me that much. I need my Mac for my uni course anyhoo as they don't use windows at all for the design aspects.

Now onto a different topic: I was wondering if anyone would be interested in a UC High Council meeting thread, much-like what was discussed before. I was thinking that there could be an opening post, explaining the meeting in the new capitol of course, then simply RP the delegates attending the Council. After-all, we have more than enough to discuss, for example the Echoese occupation, The Londinian Aggression, acquiring new members and so on. Interested?

Indeed. I'm in.

I'm in.

^_^
(Image in my head of everyone's hands in the centre of the group, "Power Rangers" style)

^_^
(Image in my head of everyone's hands in the centre of the group, "Power Rangers" style)

infinite lulz:p:p

reminds me of the time I saw the power rangers live performance. The grey evil henman dudes came into the audiance, and I tried to hit them in the circle thing with my light sword that my dad bought me.

So awesome.

I'm in, btw.

Rotflol!

Right, well, here are some threads to expect shortly:

"The Imperial News Feed" (Self-explanitory)
"The Echoese Liberation" (Kirav's prerogative)
"Soleil Scientific Resources" (Currently low-priority, expected later this week)
"The High Council" (Will get started on that next opportunity)

EDIT: Akimonad has increased their military presence on TFEI and retracted all Delphinidae rights. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543584)

OOC:Would anyone mind if I started my own aquatic Eden Project? I'd allow for citizens of all UC members to enter once it's completed.

Not at all, go ahead. If you'd like any help then please feel free to ask.

Right, well, here are some threads to expect shortly:

"The Imperial News Feed" (Self-explanitory)
"The Echoese Liberation" (Kirav's prerogative)
"Soleil Scientific Resources" (Currently low-priority, expected later this week)
"The High Council" (Will get started on that next opportunity)

EDIT: Akimonad has increased their military presence on TFEI and retracted all Delphinidae rights. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543584)

Go ahead on the Echo thread.

-EDIT-
That rhymes!

Cool, I'll make the thread, and all help debugging the design would be appreciated. I'll let it sit for a few days before beginning "construction"

I think its time we had a new recruiting drive, simply by offering membership to any allied nation of the UC. So, go expand the Commonwealth!

Hey, everyone, check out my new dress uniforms in my military thread, and tell me what you think.

They took me 2 days of slaving over a hot computer to come up with.

[OOC: Lulz, Yanitaria. That makes you sound like you dig your computer! About the UC, I find it a bit ironic that most of the nations in it have national animals that are growing extinct due to widespread deforestation.]

Official Message

Stoklomolvi would like to join the Utopian Commonwealth. An ally, Yanitaria, is already within this alliance, and the goals of the UC seem to be quite noble and honourable. As such, if Stoklomolvi is accepted, a donation of two hundred billion Universal Standard Dollars is in order. We hope that we are able to be accepted.

Signed,
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Commissar Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich

[OOC: It worked! Yey.]

OOC: I'll have an IC post coming soon, and about the animals, I can't seem to win! I banned cars, fossil fuels, urban development and still with the nearly extinct! Grrr... Oh, and what's this about a donation?

Yanitaria fully endorses our ally Stoklomolvi in their choice to join the UC.

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Imperial Communiqué

Open Declaration:
The Pictish Imperium seconds the Yanitarian statement. Full support is granted for the new application.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

Official Response

Stoklomolvi is quite pleased with its admission into the Utopian Commonwealth. Two hundred billion USD await a deposit location. We thank you for allowing us into the UC.

Signed,
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Commissar Alexei Aleksandrovich Stuyonovich

Memberlist updated, Stok has been added to the Lower Council per formality, but will gain full membership on vote from all UC members.

As President of the League of Imperial Ocean-faring Nations, I would like to propose a trade and mutual defense pact between the Utopian Commonwealth and League.

As President of the League of Imperial Ocean-faring Nations, I would like to propose a trade and mutual defense pact between the Utopian Commonwealth and League.

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Imperial Communiqué

To Great Vantania:
Your proposal will be taken under discussion by the Commonwealth and her members, and I am honored that you have decided to build bridges between our two, fine alliances. As of now, however, I propose a non-aggression pact while this great alliance of alliances is considered.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

As President of the League, I fully accept this temporary truce until a decision can be reached.

From the Desk of Chairman Gaultier


To the Utopian Commonwealth

dear members i was invited to join you as a jr nation (here of my own accord)

i understand that i am not a large nation like the rest of you and you may not find me that much more interesting then another one of your dominated states.

But i would like to ask to be considered for the higher council despite my low population.

please consider my application,

Charmian Gaultier

We are for the Surailian Joining, but not for them to be on the high council.

[ooc: I want to see you work on your capitalization and see how you do in the pratice war before that.]

The USSY would not object to trade agreements, and a mutual defense pact on an alliance level.

OOC: By on an alliance level, I mean we should only aid them, and accept aid, when the entire alliance, or a sizable portion, are under attack. T'is not wise to be involved in every boarder dispute.

IC Edit:

The USSY approves the acceptance of Surailia as a lower council member, but disapproves of the request for High Council status

OOC: Should we have an official word for approving or disapproving membership? It sort of seems like saying that you disapprove of their acceptance would be a personal slight. Also, do I spy yet another nation with it's national animal on the brink of extinction?

Thank you, you shan't regret your choice

What exactly separates me from the rest of you higher councilors?

Thank you, you shan't regret your choice

What exactly separates me from the rest of you higher councilors?

OOC: A wall made of delicious chocolate, and superiority of rank... actually, all you need to do really, is to prove your RP'ing abilities, I think.

[OOC: What about me? No debate lulz?]

[OOC: What about me? No debate lulz?]

You'd have to apply first, then someone would ask to see a demonstration of your RP ability. You could probably use the rp you are doing about the free french forces fighting my marines and army regulars.

[OOC: All right then...ahem.]

Stoklomolvi Requests to join the High Council

Stoklomolvi wishes to apply for the High Council of the Utopian Commonwealth. The reason is that Stoklomolvi wishes to prove that it can benefit the UC in more ways than one.

Expect an IC post from myself up in about eight-nine hours... Heavy uni stuff going down! Thanks for your patience!

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Imperial Communiqué

Open Declaration:
We ask that The Communist Dominion of Stoklomolvi wait a few days while we fully analyze their request, and perhaps monitor their contribution to the Commonwealth before any votes are undertaken to determine their future in the UC.
As for Surailia, The Imperium fully backs your application, although on status of the Lower-Council. We wish also to reinforce that some time may be allowed to pass before the question is raised over membership of the High Council.
Concerning the honorable alliance of LION, I feel we require more discussion on this proposal before a decision is formally reached. I for one, welcome any trade, and believe that a pact of mutual defence would ensue the survival of both alliances. May I remind the High Council that it is a defencive pact and therefor would only apply to the unprovoked invasion of said alliance.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

Honourable Gaius Kadesh,

I write to say... how did you get such a nice photo in the message above?

Charlotte Ryberg
The Mind Herself

Honourable Gaius Kadesh,

I write to say... how did you get such a nice photo in the message above?

Charlotte Ryberg
The Mind Herself

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Imperial Communiqué

To Charlotte Ryberg:
Which image is it you were inquiring about exactly?

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

[OOC: I think he means the inclusion of a picture in your IC signature, like this (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/images/Grigor_Stuyonovich.jpg).]

OOC: Yeah I thought so but he/she never returned to find out...

OOC: I'm still setting up my nation through an rp, but as soon as the story finsihes I will surely join!

Honourable Gaius Kadesh,

I'm still here. Continue.

Charlotte Ryberg
The Mind Herself

OOC: The image is actually a screenshot of an FMV sequence from Final Fantasy XII, with a bit of editing done to make it less screenshot-esque and more like a portrait.

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Imperial Communiqué

To Charlotte Ryberg:
Oh, I always take good photos.

Open Commonwealth Declaration:
The final word is due for the proposed Lion-UC alliance. Should no voices of objection be made within the next hour, the proposition will be accepted. It may also be noted that The Kiravian Empire's delegate could not attend this debate, however has pledged the Empire's support of this proposition.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

The USSY supports it, if that matters at all.

Stoklomolvi supports it as well, but we doubt it matters since Stoklomolvi is a member of the Lower Council.

Could both Stoklomolvi and Wegun provide a dossier of RP experience (with links to the relevant threads) for the UC to review, in order to determine their influence in the alliance? Same goes for Southeastern Greenland if you are reading this. Thank you.

*****

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Imperial Communiqué

Open Declaration:
Very well. Stoklomolvi; your opinion is still highly valued by the members of the UC. As soon as the Kiravian delegates return, I believe a full vote is in order to ascertain the future of your nation in the Commonwealth. We now, of course, are open to discussion on the admittance of Wegun to the Lower-Council.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

The Echoese delagate supports this proposal.

Ho-Ho-See: I have created a new region, which I fully intend to develop into a true RP'ing region like Mediterranica or Nova Europe as soon as possible. But in the meantime, would anyone be interested in joining Europa Atlantica? (It being an alternate incarnation of Europe, The middle-east, North Africa and the North Atlantic)

My puppet, the Republics of Africa, is on its way.

OOC: I don't suppose anyone could help me with a wiki article.

I'm afraid I have no idea how to format the bloody thing

Haha, yeah I had the same problems. I use nationstates.wikia.com for my factbooks et cetera, and I just simply copied other user's templates...

That's a good idea.

I'm quite good with wikis. I'm an editor on the English, French, and Icelandic Wikipedias (Although I'm not good with Icelandic), and have 50+ articles on the now-down NSwiki. What exactly needeth you help with, sire?

I'm quite good with wikis. I'm an editor on the English, French, and Icelandic Wikipedias (Although I'm not good with Icelandic), and have 50+ articles on the now-down NSwiki. What exactly needeth you help with, sire?

Glee! (je parle francais en petit peut, and I also probably misspelled that sentance)

Well, really just want a basic wiki article. I'd write it, of course, because I don't want to waste your time with that, but it you could show me how to do the formating for my nationstates.wikia article, that would be excellent.

In other news, I am working on a Super Dreadnought(can't afford to buy one) Here is the line art, but it might change (been told VLS is a no-no. Also, the chopper and flag sare freakin huge).

SD Nietcsche (http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i156/UNDComrade/SuperDreadnoughtNietzsche.png)

Very nice, though I would recommend changing that into a link. Major page-breaker. I'm good with wikis as well, though probably not as much as Kirav.

At any rate, I do believe it is Je peut parler un petit morceau au français.

Very nice, though I would recommend changing that into a link. Major page-breaker. I'm good with wikis as well, though probably not as much as Kirav.

At any rate, I do believe it is Je peut parler un petit morceau au français.

It probably is. Only I don't know how to say a tiny bit of french. my mom is the one who grew up speaking it, and told me that that the phrase I used is acceptable.

Yani: Nice boat! Keep up the good work!

Stoklomolvi: This was taken of your NS page, and is slightly worrying. I know NS pages don't always offer an accurate description of your nation (For example, now and then there is widespread deforestation in Pictavia despite the fact I choose every environmental issue in favour of the environment...), but these descriptions could only have come from direct anti-environmental choices:

...nation's rivers and children has shown that pesticide levels are at an all-time regional high, cities are engulfed by smog...

Also, although it is not essential to the UC, corruption and oppression seem to have reached an all-time high, conflicting with the ideals of "true communism" (Marxism) and wandering into a "dictatorship of the proletariat" or "Leninism". Both of these issues raise IC concern within the Imperium.

Glee! (je parle francais en petit peut, and I also probably misspelled that sentance)

Well, really just want a basic wiki article. I'd write it, of course, because I don't want to waste your time with that, but it you could show me how to do the formating for my nationstates.wikia article, that would be excellent.

In other news, I am working on a Super Dreadnought(can't afford to buy one) Here is the line art, but it might change (been told VLS is a no-no. Also, the chopper and flag sare freakin huge).

SD Nietcsche (http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i156/UNDComrade/SuperDreadnoughtNietzsche.png)

Certainly. Send me a draft when you're ready, and I'll work out the wikicode with you.

Stok, youre into wikis? Much coolness.

Click "wiki article" in my sig. I think I got the format right.

Anyways, time for an IC msg.

IC:

To The Utopian Commonwealth,

The USSY has just finished production of three Nietzsche Class Super Dreadnoughts, which is, for the time being, only be available to Utopian Commonwealth nations.

The vessel is a capable ship, relying on mainly missiles, with only 3 30in triple barrel ETC guns. This kilometer long vessel will be the pride of any nation.

Specifications can be found here (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=1519), for the moment, until it becomes available through a renewed Yanitarian Arms storefront.

Please place all orders through telegram, or post a reply here. Please include the name for all the ships ordered, for the record.

Sincerely,
The USSY MoD

OOC: Hope no one minds.

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Imperial Communiqué

To The USSY:
I wish to personally applaud Yanitaria on its forging of such a fine vessel, and of their allegiance to offer such a machine of war exclusively to the UC at first. As such, the Imperium is currently reviewing the practicalities of such a vessel in the Imperial Fleet. You may well hear from us shortly.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

Concerning my nation page, please just ignore all descriptions on that. The only thing I rely on for IC is the economics rating, and everything else is pretty much ignored since if I try to raise my economics, politics or civil goes down. Bah! I am trying to reach highest civil and economic with a good environment, but that's nearly impossible to achieve at the rate my issues do things.

EDIT: ICly I have excellent environmental ratings.

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Imperial Communiqué

To The USSY:
I wish to personally applaud Yanitaria on its forging of such a fine vessel, and of their allegiance to offer such a machine of war exclusively to the UC at first. As such, the Imperium is currently reviewing the practicalities of such a vessel in the Imperial Fleet. You may well hear from us shortly.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

We thank you for considering our ship, and we are very proud of it. Currently, the ship has more missiles than crew members, and by itself can launch enough missiles from adequate range to annihilate an enemy fleet.

Signed,
USSY Ministry of Defence

<snip>
Bah! I am trying to reach highest civil and economic with a good environment, but that's nearly impossible to achieve at the rate my issues do things.

'Tis more than irritating, ain't it? Just can't seem to keep my economy strong and environmentally friendly, although I have seen it done on NS before. Guess it's just luck of the draw with the issues.

all we can do is make the decisions we consider the best for everyone....on the whole....

all we can do is make the decisions we consider the best for everyone....on the whole....

Semi-IC:
Indeed, if best for everyone ensures Earth is more than a mere blackened rock scorched by mankind. I believe this would ultimately contrast to the generation of that times' interests, and it is our children's children that we must provide for.

OOC: NP, and anyone else, I just revived my storefront with most of the things I've designed, with a class of patrol boat and stealth corvette coming soon. From now on, order there

Dear Board members,

in the Spirit of keeping Lennon alive in our souls....i present you a question....

do you really believe in world peace?

or do you think that we must wait till we go to war with extra terrestrials to keep humans from fighting each other because through unity we are more loving and peaceful....in the Orwellian sense do we get peace through war?

OOC: That's actually a theory of mine, that even with alien contact we may still not get on. Aliens may well sympathize with human cultures more similar to their own, and possibly adopt their international policies towards Earth to. Although, I'm still of the belief that extraterrestrial contact is our best bet for unity.http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/Retro_1989/ImperialSealUpload.png
Imperial Communiqué

Open Declaration:
The Pictish Imperium believes that fire must be used to obtain peace. While we wish we could save the cradle of civilization as men, with talk, we fear that we cannot save Terra without ultimately sacrificing ourselves. In that sense; war may be the only way to obtain peace.

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Regards,
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Gaius Kadesh, Consul of the Pictish Imperium
High Commander of the Pictish Armed Forces
Warlord of the Utopian Crusades

CONFIDENTIAL

Prime minister Jillian Bernhardt:

This is.... For the senates ears only....

What's stopping us....the most powerful nations on earth from....just telling everyone there is an alien threat....these cruel inhuman ANIMALS could attack sporadically....one attack can destroy a big important building

ie: A landmark of yours, a large trade building, an island

and we have a war, instant unity, a unity peace groups couldn't fight

on top of intl. peace this could lead to building a force shield and other defense buildings around the earth (huge Intl. Contracts)...leading into Utopian lead colony's and Terra forming of the rest of the solar system....
and more.....

what do you think....for The Great Mother?

For Gaia!

SIC:

The USSY would not allow such a deception, and would lead a campaign to let the truth be known.

If the UC is to become the Uniter of humanity, we should do it because people wish to be united.

Chairman Adam Gaultier: But think of the advancements!..... history will understand....its for the Greater good

I am sure you have read the book 1984? Well I suppose the Party had the same intentions.

thats not true, you remember o'brian told us that the whole point of the party was to eliminate all happiness from the world (check its true)....im just proposing a way to achieve our goals...plus if aliens DO come...we shall be prepared....

Indeed, but we stand on a very slippery slope.

Where does the charade end? When we have the people living in fear?

OOC: I am reading the book at the moment, it's really good.

OOC: i read it last year....its good...until they torture him then the coffee i was drinking got to me and i started to break down:P

obviously...but no nation here would let the lying go too far...we hope....plus how do we know that after a while we haven't secured our unity and once we leave the "war" as the Great Human Empire how do we know that our people wont all embrace each other from years of hating the "eradicated" alien force

It is, of course, the holiday season. And, in our pluralistic U.S. society, Christmas naturally has nothing to do with the original religious celebration. The 'true' meaning of Christmas has become about family togetherness, giving to the poor, and Peace on Earth.

Peace on Earth. It was mentioned once in Scripture, butthat one little phrase, penned, probably quite casually upon a piece of parchment in the Middle East, 2000 years ago, has snowballed into this new cultural phenomenon. The 'materialistic' and 'commercial' Christmas, at least in my little corner of the country, is on a steep decline. However, it is not becoming, as the more conservative Christians intended, a return to the traditional celebration of Christ's birth. Rather, it has become more of a universal, oddly Festivus-like holiday, championing the feel-good values of peace, happiness, love, and charity. ANyways, with the U.S. at war, "Merry Christmas" is quickly giving way to "SUpport our Troops" and "Peace on Earth". Christmas is now a holiday celebrating peace.

And I hate it.

I am not a cute little hippie idealist, nor am I a hard-browed, cynical(well...kinda), pessimistic Scrooge. However, I can't help but be disguted at the pointless ideologues that someday, Earth will be a uniform, communalist, warless, happy, perfect world. Hey, I'm all for peace, just as much as the next guy. But think of what would be lost! For a truly great world to exist, there need to be different faiths or lack thereof, different ethnicites, cultures, languages, philosophies, creeds, nations, and ideas. And, inevitably, those different entities are going to conflict. Such is life. Also, war has spurned great cultural and technolgoical advancements. The computer, space exploration, GPS, dozens of medicines, roads, quick-growing rice, and heaps of other things that make out lives easier an dmore comfortable were developed for military purposes. National-level democracy wouldn't have come around for possibly several centuries were it not for the American Revolution. Women in the workplace became more acceptablebecause of the draft-created labour shortages in Britain and North AMerica during the Second War. The labour demographic stuck, and paved the way for equal rights for women in the Anglosphere.

Hold on, I'm not done yet. I still need to rant about Christmas.

So, our now universal hoiday is now truly a cultural one, common to all of Western civilization. Atheists, Apathists, Many Buddhists, Hindus, and Shintos, Irreligious THeists and Deists, and even, yes, quite a few Jews celebrate it. Many homes now bear christmas trees alongside a statue of the Bhudda, and an ornate platinum menorah. (BTW, artificial tree= YES).

In the second grade, upon hearing a Bhuddist aquaintance of mine saying that he had had a nice Christmas, I asked, "Aren't you Bhuddist?"

"yeah, so?"

"Christmas is a Christian holiday."

"Really? "

So, many Americans are brought up with this wonderful tinsel-laden holiday, but know nothing more of it than that they are exempt from school and get presents.

And the political corretness! Oh my God!

Father Christmas can no longer say "Ho! Ho! Ho!", due to the onomonopoeia's resmblence to "ho", and approximation of "whore" used in rap music. He now bellows, "Ha Ha Ha". Overboard much?

Despite its newfound universiality and secularisation, "Merry Christmas" is no longer acceptable for public use. "Happy Holidays" is considered the conventional greeting. However, "Happy Hannukah"(DOn't mess with my spelling), is perfectly fine. A menorah or a Star of David, or even a Crescent Moon(Um....Ramadan is OVER already, folks!) can be displayed in public areas wihout protest, alongside a gingerbread man or sotcking. But if I were to put a cross up outside my house, I'd have a bunch of 'concerned citizens" and the police at my dorrstep asking me to remove the offending object of religious significance, or risk a fine. I don't even know if that's really against the law, but with small affairs on the municipal level over here, it is just like the smallest UN cateory: Tyrrany by Majority. If you get a bunch of Democrat suburbanites to sign a petition, well than you've got more power than the corrupt mayor himself.

Well, those are my thoughts on Peace on Earth and Christmas, or rather, a few of them. I apologize for my spelling, as I'm typing on a flat keyboard, in lieu of my own. Cheers!

<snip>

I am planning on putting an effigy of the flying spaghetti monster, and if it's any consolation, I'll probably be burned as a witch.

Texas, go figure.

i hope that when Terra forming is perfected that we all leave earth, and keep it as a pilgrimage site and we all have to park on the moon and we can all congregate to an obelisk in the center of an overgrown (having demolished all the buildings leaving nothing but forest for miles) earth somewhere in Africa...and worship the humans that came before us and our individual gods

OOC: hey guys, I think I might kill off my leader, and have the country spiral into a short civil war where a communist leader comes out on top.

Like, seriously Ingsoc-worst-nightmare-of-george-orwell type of dictatorship based around a terranist oligarchy. This way my nation can dump more money into the military, and thus be a better RP nation.

And maybe a few years from now, there might be another huge revolution, where the Democratic Socialists come back into power.

Thoughts?

ooc:the point is there is no oligarchy.....no one controls the party.....its the Concept of Ingsoc that is the evil, that way no one can escape just by killing a leader, big brother is a concept not a person right, therefore G.O is saying that you cant kill the concept once enough people believe in it and if that concept is pure evil with a "Jesus mask" of sorts you are doomed

well i dono we may come out and help free your people (think of the Surailians like Goldstein if he actually existed :'( ), Surailia was once a Puppet State for a large Soviet nation who did a very 1984 type attack on our people and after the counter revolution we reclaimed power (with the help of the fall of communism)

But, you see, I want to oppress my people, so that way I can buy more stuff.

:Wakes Up:

AH! What's going on? People are speaking and stuff!

k im a noob....but i ran a tax program thing and i have a ton of cash....

and im saying that if you do oppress your people surailia will run an "underground railroad" type thing ....but then again we kinda suppress my people too....

k im a noob....but i ran a tax program thing and i have a ton of cash....

and im saying that if you do oppress your people surailia will run an "underground railroad" type thing ....but then again we kinda suppress my people too....

Political freedoms our "Outlawed" in Surailia, that's more then kinda suppressed, lol! >_<

Well, after checking out no taxes, I am thinking no voting rights, civil rights where it doesn't interfere with commerce or defence.

And as for the underground railroad thing, sure! You should join the Europa Atlantica region, so that way we can have a boarder. Also, I might send the illegitimate grandson/daughter to live there, until I decide it's time for another revolution.

they ARE outlawed

but you have to understand the political system in surailia to get why they are outlawed.....if its necessary i can explain it to you.....its a little bit complex though

Yanitaria: id love too but im super involved in my region....i may join your region but why don't we just share borders anyways...technically regions need to share borders too....w.e it'll work itself out here pick a border they are all unoccupied

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Yanitaria: That would be awesome! That would mean that Stoklomolvi and Yanitaria have the same type of government :D .

Surialia: Is that map purely fictional or based off of a real map? As was said, you'd be more than welcome in EA.

100% Extremely OOC: it is actually the jamu-Kashmir region but i flooded India and added rivers....but totally pick a border....i want neighbors.....then we can discuss road ways and now i can finish it!!

The claims thread for Europa Atlantica is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543596&page=9) if you want to, well, make a claim... :p

OOC Still:uummm im not sure what your making me do here?

well you know.....i dont really know where my country will fit....if i come in i may make us a new map......just cause i need a bay and a border with yanitaria and be in a warm area....

well you know.....i dont really know where my country will fit....if i come in i may make us a new map......just cause i need a bay and a border with yanitaria and be in a warm area....

We don't necessarily need a boarder. Both out nations being on the sea would due

Sorry, that was the completely wrong thread! The correct one is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=544199), I'm sure we could fit you somewhere!

ok thanks...im making a new map

Hey, everyone, President Norheim is dead. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13281722#post13281722)

I am planning on putting an effigy of the flying spaghetti monster, and if it's any consolation, I'll probably be burned as a witch.

Texas, go figure.

I suggest you convert to worship of the Invisible Pink Unicorn. Effigies of His Pink Invisibleness are genereally accepted by the right-wing Christians of Texas, as they are invisible. Yet pink....How does that work?

Anyway, no offence meant to the secular or irreligious. Just making a point about the universalization of Christmas. I am one of the many moderate Christians that have full respect for other paths or lack thereof, and I am more dissappointed at Christian extremists who feel the need to impose thier faith on everyone else than at the secularization of Christmas. They give us all a bad name.

I suggest you convert to worship of the Invisible Pink Unicorn. Effigies of His Pink Invisibleness are genereally accepted by the right-wing Christians of Texas, as they are invisible. Yet pink....How does that work?

Anyway, no offence meant to the secular or irreligious. Just making a point about the universalization of Christmas. I am one of the many moderate Christians that have full respect for other paths or lack thereof, and I am more dissappointed at Christian extremists who feel the need to impose thier faith on everyone else than at the secularization of Christmas. They give us all a bad name.

No offence taken. Atheist myself.

And the Invisible Pink Unicorn works because if light did reflect off of his holiness, it would only be the pink light.

I've actually seen fundamentalists say "Well obviously the IPU is not comparable because you can't be invisible and pink. Therefore jesus is the one and true god, and you should repent."

Ha! It's quite funny that they'd do that.

Ha! It's quite funny that they'd do that.

Yes. Unfortunately the people debating him were just as brain dead.

What'd they say?

i dono i think that if your going to be atheist at least don't disrespect the other people with religions, as long as the people with religions don't disrespect you then they are just living their lives the best they can and shouldn't be ridiculed for it.

the reason this (the invisible pick spaghetti Scientologist) comes out from our culture is exactly because we are just told to love Jesus ,moh*med and whoever else without actually knowing why therefore making him the dictator we all hate

and the people who genuinely need religion to live on this world because their lives suck or they need it to achieve the bliss that keeps them from jumping out the wi-didly-indow (Flanders reference)

then there are people that have been saved and good on them i have no more respect who "found Jesus" then someone who became enlightened, but sadly their preaching can get annoying.

in the end all religion preaches is to love live and listen to each other it preaches respect and explain to an audience full of questions how the unexplainable happened it isn't bad, and shouldn't be ridiculed

Love,
Bliss

Sometimes secular people are just as extreme as the religious fundamentalists that they ridicule, but they just happen to be on the other side of the field. There are atheist extremists, like the ones on NSG, but most irreligious people are just normal blokes, good people, who happen to not believe in God. There is an Atheistic Right and a Religious Left.

Just the same, there are many religious people that misinterpret their faith and do various negative activities because of it, ranging from flying planes into buildings, to merely not letting a Jew into their boarding house. But most are just normal blokes, good people, who believe in something.

every one knows that if you don't let a newish woman into an inn, that 2000 years of war will follow! (shazam!)

thats exactly my point i believe in finding balance in life....the middle way if you will, and that is she i cant let people go about making fun of deities because its just rude.

my main point is that no one should be judged upon their race, religion,sex, sexual orientation and so on, and by "worshiping" silly gods you are judging people by thier religion, now i enjoy a good joke like "raptor jesus went extinct for your sins" but creating a religion that makes fun of religion can be considered hate

What'd they say?

It's what they let the fundie get away with. He used all sorts of logical fallacies, and blatant lies, but nobody even tried to correct him.

Snip

I tend to err more on the open, free speech end. If someone is an annoying fundamentalist, then I will go ahead and insult their beliefs. If they never try to convert me or anyone around me, and generally treat faith as a personal, not public thing, then I have no problem.

On the converse, I remember in school hearing about a girl in Illinois sueing the school for the moment of silence, and I was deeply annoyed. At some point you are butting into other's business, when it really doesn't effect you. So what if someone is praying during the moment? That doesn't effect you, unless they are doing it very loudly.

Props for the Flanders reference.

Snip

True. It especially seems that here there are a lot of people that are especially anti-religious.

But there are extremists in everything that could loosely be called religious or political.

Snip

I wouldn't say it's hate, so much as satire. The fact that some people take their faith seriously doesn't mean it has to be sacred to everyone else. When one is censored because someone else doesn't like being made fun of, that's when you've hit the slippery slope towards totalitarianism.


Edit: If anyone is interesting, I have a small Mafia RP going on here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=545292)

well the problem with satire is its hard to tell how far you go and how many people you hurt on the way. i just think that as far as freedom of speach goes you are technically free to say anything, but be respectful cause if you arent i hate you :)

like the other day i snapped at a girl in my class who got mad that i called it xmas break (she is a proud PROUD jew) i told her

1. you are a minority there is like 5 people who celebrate xmas to 1 jew so calm down it just democracy

2. have no problem that you are jewish but what i do have a problem with is that you are making it seem like its wrong to be of any other faith

3. good job being proud

4.i hate you beth

well the problem with satire is its hard to tell how far you go and how many people you hurt on the way. i just think that as far as freedom of speach goes you are technically free to say anything, but be respectful cause if you arent i hate you :)

like the other day i snapped at a girl in my class who got mad that i called it xmas break (she is a proud PROUD jew) i told her

1. you are a minority there is like 5 people who celebrate xmas to 1 jew so calm down it just democracy

2. have no problem that you are jewish but what i do have a problem with is that you are making it seem like its wrong to be of any other faith

3. good job being proud

4.i hate you beth

If it hurts someone's feelings that their beliefs, religious or political, are being made fun of, they really ought to build a bridge and get over it.

As for being pissed that you called it christmas break, I would be pissed off too. I'd also probably make a joke out of it, to piss her off more, and say something like

"Bah humbug, I don't care that jew christmas happens on real christmas! You may have your delicious gold coins, but we get video game consoles."

Of course, people in RL know me, so they wouldn't care about my political correctness, they'd know I was joking.

well i dono i don't like that people make fun of others i think there are certain things you shouldn't make fun of, like religion but i mean as long as its in good fun its ok but atheists making up a "religion" that didn't have the original goal of helping man and explaining the unexplainable i think is wrong

also Scientology .... thats all

well i dono i don't like that people make fun of others i think there are certain things you shouldn't make fun of, like religion but i mean as long as its in good fun its ok but atheists making up a "religion" that didn't have the original goal of helping man and explaining the unexplainable i think is wrong

also Scientology .... thats all

Actually, the Church of the Flying Spaghetti monster was meant to point out to to the Kansas States School Board that if they teach creationism to give students a taste of the controversy, they have to teach every creation story.

thats acceptable i myself am a buhddist-gaianist(a religion of my own creation)

this is summing up my thoughts

http://www.viceland.com/int/dd.php?id=1200&country=ca

Don't mean to be an old grouch, but this thread is for the UC. Sorry Surailia, but continue this in General if you want to.

*The glaze over the young mans eyes fades*

Oh... right... yes, Trade deficits, occupations, taxation

alright well ladies, gentleman, i would like you to know that we reached our quota of 100 million citizens 6 days ahead of schedules are you ready to consider us real members of the Utopian commonwealth?

We should have a regional board. Invision powerboards are free.

Well I thought about it, but offsite boards tend to be the death of alliances. They all migrate to there, no-one new joins cause they don't know the board exists, then gradually the alliance is forgotten about altogether. Look at the CA, perhaps the most successful alliance in NS over the past year, all they do is use one thread, and thus get constant BUMP's when people comment. Nations are still joining the CA today because they continually see the thread in the forums, and want to join an active alliance.

NP's right. Offsite boards were actually pretty good for the CN, but the UC is just a different sort of alliance.

As for Surailian, admission, I move to begin debate.

thank your kirav(ian?) Majesty

i can assure you that we meet all your criteria and more and i can assure you that i will be active and be sure to help us become an alliance that all alliances are based on hereon forth

OOC: Yes, it's Kiravian. Few people get it as quickly as you did. Kiravic, Kiro-, and Kirish are sometimes used as well.

IC:

Delegate Kithim Þurson, the UC representative from the Kiravian Empire, took the floor.

"Sèr, The Empire is quite eager to admit Surailia as a full member. However, by the Charter of this alliance, we must first conduct an examination. What measures is Surailia currently taking to protect, improve, and preserve, its environment?"

*the lights all focused on the group of people from Surailia*

"well... um... we have as of lately cut back on our environmental spending..... because it was ruining our economy" said the Chairman quite blatantly

"But"Chirped the blonde Prime minister Superior-- who was strangely overdressed for the situation they were in "the Surailian defense committee has recently disposed of all its nukes (all one hundred and twelve of them) for a new gamma-radiating technology which means that there will be no fallout when used this technology can also be used to power a nation safely and as effectively as coal or oil and as environmentally friendly as hydro"

"OH!" piped up the minister for transport "and on top of that we have begun research on the pneumatic engine and hope to have it ready in Surailia by 2010"

Commonwealth Chamber, Eden, Capital of the Commonwealth

The Pictish representative stands from his seat and leans forward, with both hands resting on the far edge of the desk in front of him. Due to his posture, the lighting casts an unsettling shadow over his face. His voice was rough, and he speaks slowly;

"The Imperium adamantly opposes the full admission of Surailia, and will continue to do so until Surailian activities and efforts in the international community become known. Having never witnessed significant Surailian involvement in the international community, we feel that we cannot take responsibility as part of the greater Commonwealth for any future Surailian activities. The people are yet to gain the trust of my Lords"

The Pict looked around for a second, locking into a stair at the Surailian party. As he reseats himself, a women to his right takes to the floor;

"My brother is right, we humbly ask the Commonwealth to deny Surailia admittance to the High Council. Who is to say what would become of this? Do we truly know enough of Surailia to grant unquestionable mutual Utopian defence? Furthermore, do you entrust Surailia with a vote in this chamber which may prove to be of significance, or accept that the nation may represent this alliance out with our presence? We ask that time may be dedicated to further understand the nature of the Surailian state"

The women seats, and the light concentrated on the Pictish delegation fades.

the chairman laughs to himself and leans back in his chair....

ha ha ha ha.....i was in one of my kings palaces and one of the princes was watching an American T.V show....cloning high or some rubbish like that and you all look like the "shadowy board of directors" that seem to harass that comic fellow with the robot.....*one the chairmans advisor's lean in towards him*....no no its fine i don't think that my friends here care that i took a minute out of my life to "chill" with a family friend's child

the point is that we don't have time to argue over the previous influence of my nation. if you need prof for my initiative I personally *ow* My government has started an Energy committee for the nation if it goes through....then thats good....

Commonwealth Chamber, Eden, Capital of the Commonwealth:

The Yanitarian delegate stood.

"Was it not too long ago, that Surailia wished to institute a war on extra-terrestrials? Hardly fitting actions for a member of the High Council.

"Futhermore, Surailia is but a small nation. And we all know that it is the smallest nations that start the most wars. I suggest that we wait until the nation of Surailia has at least 200 million citizens.

"And finally, though we find it admiral that the Surailian party spends time with children, the High Council does not concern itself with children's shows. It's very unprofessional to bring up such idle matters in an official hearing, and in most nations, would cause scandal and national embarrassment."

The Yanitarian delegate sat down, and took a sip of his coffee.

OOC:Imagine Bulgaria bringing up a cartoon in the United Nations. No one would ever take them seriously again.

IC
*The Smile fell off of the chairmans face*

Thank you for your concern Mr delegate i am sorry. i was told to behave. As for the Alien War that was not MY proposal i assure you my Government has no official oppinion on the EXISTENCE of Extra terrestrials, it was merely a contemplation of reality and seems to have been taken as more than such.

It is only true that young nations go to war because they are exited by the Fact that they are a nation and don't know what to do with themselves, and that makes them dangerous i myself made that mistake and wont go to war for a good long while, unless its necessary of course...

(OOC: ahaha that is true... w/e)

thank you for your concern Mr delegate i am sorry. i was told to behave. As for the Alien War that was not MY proposal i assure you my Government has no official oppinion on the EXISTENCE of Extra terrestrials, it was merely a contemplation of reality and seems to have been taken as more than such.

It is only true that young nations go to war because they are exited by the Fact that they are a nation and don't know what to do with themselves, and that makes them dangerous i myself made that mistake and wont go to war for a good long while, unless its necessary of course...

(OOC: ahaha that is true... w/e)

OOC: You did post it as IC, even addressing it to the "Dear Board Members" or some such.

*the lights all focused on the group of people from Surailia*

"well... um... we have as of lately cut back on our environmental spending..... because it was ruining our economy" said the Chairman quite blatantly

"But"Chirped the blonde Prime minister Superior-- who was strangely overdressed for the situation they were in "the Surailian defense committee has recently disposed of all its nukes (all one hundred and twelve of them) for a new gamma-radiating technology which means that there will be no fallout when used this technology can also be used to power a nation safely and as effectively as coal or oil and as environmentally friendly as hydro"

"OH!" piped up the minister for transport "and on top of that we have begun research on the pneumatic engine and hope to have it ready in Surailia by 2010"

Delegate Þurson replied, "Sèr Chairman, the primary purpose of this alliance is to protect the environment from unneccessary and abhorrent attacks upon it by corporatist states like BuddhaC. All of the current High Council members have painstakingly defended their ecosystems. Kiravia has banned gas-fueled cars, imposed strict regulations on forestry, endowed government protection unto no less than 2,000 species. The CFEI has converted to clean fuels, and recognised the sentience of Dolphins. I don't even need to begin listing the achievements of the Pictish in this sector. All said, Surailia must certainly take a different stance on the environment."

The Stoklomolvi representative, on a different day, decided to ask his fellow delegates about Stoklomolvi.

[OOC: ICly, my nation uses fusion, though my NS page shows me as an environment hating mongrel.]

"Fellow delegates, I have waited patiently for a while, and I must ask, will Stoklomolvi be eligible to join in the High Council? Stoklomolvi takes as many measures as it can to improve the environment, such as using fusion power and fuel cell vehicles."

The Stoklomolvi representative, on a different day, decided to ask his fellow delegates about Stoklomolvi.

[OOC: ICly, my nation uses fusion, though my NS page shows me as an environment hating mongrel.]

"Fellow delegates, I have waited patiently for a while, and I must ask, will Stoklomolvi be eligible to join in the High Council? Stoklomolvi takes as many measures as it can to improve the environment, such as using fusion power and fuel cell vehicles."

Delegate Þurson was interested.
"Excellent! Those are excellent advancements towards protecting Mother Earth. What other measure do you take, specifically those involving Primary Industries vs. The Environment?"

OOC: Surailia, please don't mistake this for something personal, its not a dig at you in any sense. The High council is, with all IC reasons aside, a method of separating experienced RP'ers from those still trying to pick up the game. I'd be more than happy to admit you once you built up more experience in fully fledged RP's, its really just a learning curve. Everyone starts off with getting to grips with it all, then spelling and language improves, alongside roleplay technique and OOC etiquette. Try grabbing a spellchecker for your Internet browser, I use one for Firefox, as correct spelling's always the first step towards credibility. Just some friendly advise! Since Stok's joined, he's created a formidable Wiki, delved into fictional history and RP'ing as well as picked up the basics like language and formatting and that's why I am more inclined to admit him. Again, it's just a learning curve, and you'll pick it up in no-time. I miss when there were "adopt a newb" programs, they definitely would have helped me get to grips with everything far quicker.

Commonwealth Chamber, Eden, Capital of the Commonwealth

The two delegates who had been present for the Surailian application were again before the High Council of the Commonwealth. Both were in their twenties or thirties, and the man was particularly rough to the eye, his chin covered in stubble and his scarred skin appearing deceptively old. The female was the opposite, clean and respectfully presented, with an air of professionalism. The two whispered briefly, then the man leaned forward in the same stance as the day before. His eyes looked weary, and his voice coarse and aged;

"The Stoklomovi efforts have been dully noted. Pictavia wishes to see more than efforts, we wish to see results. Fear of stagnating your economy is justifiable, however Stoklomolvi can survive in luxury and sustain dramatic cutbacks to its industry in favour of the environment. We ask for a dramatic decrease in carbon gasses, and a firm pro-environmental policy implemented by the state"

In the same format as before, the man slowly sat back down while his parter stood straight and placed a data tablet on the desk before her,

"We understand that the Stoklomolvi administration has made efforts to preserve their eco-system, however these efforts resemble something other than a priority. Should the state gain full admittance into the High Council, a primarily eco-friendly government will have to evolve from the former or be initiated by the people."

OOC: Basically, clean up your NS description a bit (I know they're not anywhere near accurate, but just demonstrate that you're not far off eco-friendly) and/or sacrifice some of your economy stats for this and you're in. Well, you'll have got the Pictish vote that is.

"All smokestacks are filtered by rather advanced filtration systems, powered by our previously mentioned fusion power. Specific information is not to be disclosed today, but at any rate it blocks anything other than water and carbon dioxide. Quite an advancement, considering that the factory parks, which are full of greens, surround factories.

The Kiravian Delegate nodded. "It seems reasonable to me. As the Pictish officials said, if you take such measures as they stated, we will certainly second your ascension to the High Council.

You are all a bunch of wackos who are taking things too far

OOC: And you Sir, can kindly leave our thread. Thank you.

Well said, Mister Picts!

Yeh'd think a nation called Terresta would have a bit more of a positive attitude towards us, eh?

:rolleyes: Kids these days, all names and no substance. Now back on topic...
Green: Good
Carbon: Bad
2AM: Way past my bedtime! :p

:rolleyes: Kids these days, all names and no substance. Now back on topic...
Green: Good
Carbon: Bad
2AM: Way past my bedtime! :p

Rofflol'd at that. :D:D:D

Suprisingly, I have always had green in my flag, I think. Although I've change dit many times...weird.

OOC: FUSION WE BARELY HAVE FISSION TECHNOLOGY... at least im trying to be realistic.

thanks picts and i got that and i hate being new because there are prejudices against noobs(for good reason), and i have a spell checker i have just quite low standards for my witting:P

also, for those of us with nuclear power i think that it should be a consensus of the Commonwealth that the reactors are PULSTAR safe (almost impossible to Chernobyl)

The Yanitarian Delegates to the High Council vote in favour of Stoklomolvi being made a member of the High Council.

(OOC) in truth here where am i standing and if so what must i do to get in here

Simply, improve your Rp'ing skills. Try qualitative rather than quantitative posts, i.e instead of posting so often, spend more time working on individual posts. I don't just mean make them long, just work on structure, formatting, spelling and storytelling et cetera.

um...have u ever seen me RP, our region hasn't even started

I agree with NP on the fact that you need to improve your rp'ing skills.

But also, you've still come a long way from being the arrogant little noob that crashed the Sondara RP. I think that you have the right viewpoint and rp attitude to become a High Council member. You just need some more experience.

Also, spell check and use commas. Even in OOC posts. British Londinium and other poweful nations have a habit of invading nations whose players don't use proper grammer. From the debates you've done in this thread, it's no doubt that you're intelligent enough, so just use the punctuation and make your intelligence evident.

Ugh, English grammar, not the most fun thing but i shall try.

I don't think a nation should invade some person based on their grammar. That is just silly. PERIOD

Ugh, English grammar, not the most fun thing but i shall try.

I don't think a nation should invade some person based on their grammar. That is just silly. PERIOD

Oh, they won't in-characterly invade you because of that. But they'll wait for the slightest IC excuse. And the entire UC combined cannot defend against a nation of such caliber.

Oh Jeez....Well I'm pretty sure the UC will benefit from my mind (if i do say so myself):P My nation could be considered like a 1980's Japan.

My first attempt at quelling a civil war was bumped because i broke the RP with a plausible MT machine. Cause i read! Thanks PBS!

um...have u ever seen me RP, our region hasn't even started

Yes, anything IC is RP'ing. Plus what I say extends to OOC aswell.

Well can I suggest putting me on to the High Council with probation? Because i fit all the necessary Criteria, therefore refusing my entry is questionable.

Think of me as an apprentice in and of the High council.

That's basically what the Lower Council is.

That's basically what the Lower Council is.

Yup.

But I'd Like the ability to vote, you all must know I'm not crazy by now, its been a month, which in NS time must be like a quarter of a century.

But I'd Like the ability to vote, you all must know I'm not crazy by now, its been a month, which in NS time must be like a quarter of a century.

Enh, NS time doesn't move at the fixed rate that the Holy Stickies suggest. Only with old, über-involved rper's, like > Questers level. Most rp time is relative and can change by theatre of operations.

Anyways, we know that your not crazy, but we'd like to see some more rp experience from you.

-EDIT-

Got just the thing. How's about we set up an Rp.

You will attempt to make a colony in a tropical area. I shall rp the natives, the weather, foriegn forces, and pretty much all other obstacles. That way, NP, Echo, Stoklomolvi, and I can see how you handle problems as an rp'er, and how adept you are at the actual rp'ing and writing.

It'd be fun, too.

Yes! That sounds like Fun as a Bun in Rum......or something to that effect,

I shall start it if I can be so bold as to do that.

I have a particular style I like images if that is ok.

I will post the link when I'm done, it is open to all UC High Council members to comment and post but Kirav has the final say.

Alright! Sweet! Post té link when you're ready.

Could I pop in too? I would like to observe or participate, since all of the other threads I'm in have died.

What about all the threads I'M IN they, NEVER DIE!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13309647#post13309647

té? what language is this?

té? what language is this?

Coscivian, a broad yet closely related family of languages spoken across the Kiravian Empire. It means 'the',

Nau, permim Þú thí këm RP en té viauv, sìn Þú?

i guess i should learn Coscivian

Coincidentally, té is also tea in Spanish.

Coincidentally, té is also tea in Spanish.

Sweet! I love tea! And yes, Surailia, you should learn Coscivian. That'd give it a whopping total of 2 speakers!

Cool. Wanna just send me a file and i can talk to you about it there.

Certainly. Where wouldd you like said file sent to?

ummm thats a good question, do you have a Factbook?

Two. One on NSwiki, and one on WikiStates. I've tried to make a Forum one, but I found the medium too limited.

Do they have your language on them?

Enclose the link cause they are renovating the Ns Wikis

Here she is: http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/coscivian.html

There's not much on there yet, but it's as good an intro course as any. :)

Fantastic, how do i get one of these?

It's just as easy as editing Wikipedia. In fact, it's identical software in all but buttons. Problem is that NSwiki is has gone read-only until Goobergunch finishes uploading it to a new database. It's agonious, but it's an improvement. On the old server, the site went dead every two weeks or so.

Ugh, Now I'm annoyed. I hate English....

Tis an inconvenient language, English. I'm trying to learn Icelandic.

No practical use for the language whatsoever, but I thought it'd be cool.

hey, im a B nation!

B? You mean on PSADAS?

YEEEE BITCHEZ! I'm Sorry i dont know where that came from......no wait....I DO!

yeah

What's PSADAS, and please don't tell me it has to do with baseball catchers.

What's PSADAS, and please don't tell me it has to do with baseball catchers.

Nope. I don't know the first thing about baseball.

My bad, actually, it's PDAS. It stands for Pacitalian Development and Advancement Scale (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/pacitalian_development_and_advancement_system.html).

OOC:Thats all good, Now! i have 150 Million people, An army, RP ability,2 RPing Colonies and an solid understanding of the game i think i can become a full member of the High council.

IC: The Prime minister Sighed an clapped her hands. From the Dark Doorways around the council room came Sharply dressed men and women with folders. In a quick efficient almost musical like fashion they laid them down on the black marble desks belonging to the High Council members.

"From what you can see we are more than capable of being in this council it is Foolish to deny us any longer"

OOC: I would be a tentative A, with the only real blocking point is that I don't know whether or not I have diplomatic influence.

I suppose I have have enough in the region and the alliance to count, but for now I'd say I am A or B.

(It says social freedoms, not political. And that's what saved me).



Also, Surailia, I would like to see more RP ability. I haven't actually seen enough to make a decision. For instance, in the requiem thread, Jillian seems a bit bitchy, but switches immediately to soft to tell Adam to be careful. Also there is that whole argument, which at the moment seemed kinda pointless.

But I am not voting no. I abstain for the moment.

OOC:i'm developing their characters she is a bitch but she softens up to Adam for a reason that may or may not arise, also i apologize for the argument i was going to go somewhere with it but i had to go so i shortened it and things just kinda progressed.... And don't call Jill a bitch (I have grown attached to her) She is just.... To the point...no nonsense....a real Career Woman

Edit: And speaking of requiem Get on it .....we might be getting to the meat of the whole thing

Hey guys, how would you feel about a weapons expo thread to compare the weapons we use/sell?

OOC: I would be a tentative A, with the only real blocking point is that I don't know whether or not I have diplomatic influence.

I suppose I have have enough in the region and the alliance to count, but for now I'd say I am A or B.

(It says social freedoms, not political. And that's what saved me).


Same here, kinda. I said A because my government is socially libretarian, we have a kickass environmental record, and awesome social and educational programs. But Kiravia has only moderate foriegn influence, cheifly within the UC, CN, and Commonwealth. And I'm not sure about median incomes or anything, but with only a "Very Good" economy, they can't be too great.

would y'all grade me just because i don't think i get how it works...i think I'm a b though

Sure. I'd say you're a B as well. What are your education, healthcare, and other public services like, 1 being Scandinavian Welfare State and 10 being every man for himself?

Lulz the Communistic Dictatorial State would rate an E on the scale...pitiful.

um.... 3 i guess

stok....what did you end up with?

Uh...huh? I got an E, or F...I would very much like to consider myself A...

Kirav: http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=kirav

Uh...huh? I got an E, or F...I would very much like to consider myself A...

Kirav: http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=kirav

Enh,...Looks like I've got myself a "D" then.

you look like an A to me what am i missing?

Also Kirav: you seem to be sharing the entire border with one of my Colonies can you help me theorize a story for that...