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A bloody war had erupted between two nations. As to why was a complex story. Tomoyo was getting headaces, she didn't want contiuning conflict in Xanadou. Kurona had made the cry for peace and so far people seem to be listning. The guests all had to arive by ship or small planes. They came to the capital of Sonomi which retained it's classic archetecture of old Japan. The Palace had the classic look. Tomoyo bowed to her guests.

"Welcome everybody, welcome to Kurona. If you will follow me, I will lead you inside."

She led them to the Chambers which were normally used for poltical business for the country was hosted. A Giant Raven along with a Flag stood in the center of Tomoyo's seat which sat the highest above all others.

The New Leader of the Ryou Black Islands, Premier Rei Nakagishima of The People's Republic of The Ryou Black Islands came on a Stingray Class Caravel.

She waved to Princess Tomoyo and sat down.

Cetii Orcus saluted to Princess Tomoyo, bowed, and then took his seat.

Aukon Mekhran followed dutifully and took a seat. He was ready to begin procedures and visibly had a stack of telegrams from the President on acceptable actions and clauses.

The Zoingonian ambassador, Mr. Grey, sat down next to the Fordock ambassador, sorting out his paperwork.

occ: sorry if I haven't been posting on the thread, stupid internet keeps crashing....im getting a new connection

Prelate Hausilous heavily strode in. For a protoss, he had an abnormaly bulky figure, muscles build from much ground-fighting. His fore-arms were massive, as well as his four-fingered hands. Light reflected off of his smooth metalic armor, gleaming with a brass like sheen. A teal robe was loosely draped over the armor in certain decorative places. He stood asside the table behind an empty chair, without bothering to move it or sit down. He continued to stand in silence.

A mysterious man walked up to the building where the Treaty of Sonomi was to be held. He took a sip of a flask containing a red liquid he had, and walked inside the building and took his seat.

OOC: Usually I have my guy arrive in his sports car, but that's not allowed.

"Excuse me everybody! Hi I'm Yasunori Mitsuda, I'm head of the Royal Guard, at this time if you have any weapons, at all we ask you to please go out to the lobby and hand them to our security officals. Failure to do so will result in short term detention, thank you."

Orcus removed a pair of nosehair clippers from his breifcase,"If you're like the officials at the Valëka Intl. Airport, then I guess I should get rid of this."

Icewhale, his aide, took the clippers and brought them to the lobby.

"Nope, I'm clean," said the man.

OOC: Feel free to strike up a conversation.

Rei had nothing on her.

Ordo Fett slowly walked into the room with a smirk on his face. The Maldorian side had been winning. If not, then there would have been no peace talks.

"This better be worth my time. I have some important meeting to go to." Mr. Fett checked his watch, looking a little impatient..

Orcus sorted through the papers in his case. Casualty reports, maps, statistics, figures, some official documents, and the like. Each of the other delegates had good energeis emanating from them. All seemed to be genuinely interested in peace. Well, except for the Mandalorian one, but Orcus was grateful enough that he was here, period.

"Are all participating delegates present?"

A slender man slowly and calmly walked into the room with a suitcase. He was slightly shorter than average, wore small square classes and was dressed in a black suit with a tie. He had already been checked and he did not carry any weapons, neither on him nor in the suitcase.

He identified himself as Samuel Johnston, the representative of the Incorporated States of Consumer Technologies, though he wasn't a member of the Board which ran the corporate nation. They never sent one of their own and as a result, the Board was completely faceless. Still, he had the authority to act on their behalf and he would be an effective and accurate voice for them. He looked and acted more like a businessman than a diplomat; an indication of how the Board viewed the world. He sat down, opened his suitcase and organized his papers.

OOC: I hope you guys don't mind a newbie such as I getting involved. I'm not involved in the Far Echo Island wars, so it should be ok, right? At any rate, I'll behave, so don't worry. :)

OOC:

CT,(and that is probably your abbreviation from now on) I've nothing against new players in the least, and you're making a good choice by getting involved in diplomacy, instead of asking to be invaded like other new nations do.

However, this meeting is to decide on affairs related to a war in which you are not involved.

On yet another hand, it can't hurt to have you as an observer, and you're input might help ease these accords. Welcome to the International community, CT.

It's okay with me

It's okay with me

Great.

CT, whoever makes the thread has authority on what goes on within it, so if Kurona says you're in, you're in.

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Actually, its not as simple as that, but you're in CT, don't worry about it.

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Things teand to vary in war threads and stuff, where authority is in the hands of the main participants, but the threadmaker still has some degree of control.

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Then again, compared to most II posters, I'm a noob myself, and I wasn't here in the "GOlden Age" of NS, so according to most, I can't actually understand how the rules work.

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:headbang::headbang::headbang:

OK with me.

The man stood up. "Hello, I am Prince Thomas Vanek, and I am here representing the VDB. Hence, the Vanek'ians are here. I am ready to begin.

"Yea I don't care when you are ready, let's just get this damned thing over with!" The delegate from Maldorians shouted out. Clearly, Ordo Fett wanted to end this 'meeting' as soon as possible. "What are the terms?"

Orcus, glad that someone had broken the international ice, announced, "As am I. My name is Cetii Volon Arboric Orcus, and I represent the Kiravian Empire. Of course, we are gathered here to discuss and resolve issues related to the Bloody Sunday War. Would anyone like to make a statement?"

OOC- Responding to some earlier posts I did not have time to catch up on.

The Fordockian Prime Minster handed over and FMPM-01 to the guard. He then announced that he was here and representing Fordock. When asked if he had a statement he only said "Let us do this so the people get what they want."

"Sir, we are not here to push accusations and demand punishments. We are here to attempt to create peace between our nations. All of our nations. And furthermore," he said, pickiing up the book, "We have no need for such things. Our civilization is built on democracy, acceptance, freedom, and the pursuit of the Gifts endown upon us by God. Speaking of gifts from God, Peace. We are here for Peace. Simply restating casualties and damages is not moving us closer to our goal."

Orcus, glad that someone had broken the international ice, announced, "As am I. My name is Cetii Volon Arboric Orcus, and I represent the Kiravian Empire. Of course, we are gathered here to discuss and resolve issues related to the Bloody Sunday War. Would anyone like to make a statement?"

"I will," Rei said, "You and your Nazi allies are trying to destroy The Ryou way of life and force us to bow before your evil ways. Also, we want The leaders of Far Echo Islands be put up on War Crimes for Murder of Ryou Civilians and Sinking one of our Floating Cities." Rei soon gave The Kiravian Ambassaor a Little Red Book, "Give this to your People, They might think better."

The Title of The Book was "Quotations from Chairman Mao Zedong"

"I will," Rei said, "You and your Nazi allies are trying to destroy The Ryou way of life and force us to bow before your evil ways. Also, we want The leaders of Far Echo Islands be put up on War Crimes for Murder of Ryou Civilians and Sinking one of our Floating Cities." Rei soon gave The Kiravian Ambassaor a Little Red Book, "Give this to your People, They might think better."

The Title of The Book was "Quotations from Chairman Mao Zedong"

"Are these allegations true?"

"Sir, we are not here to push accusations and demand punishments. We are here to attempt to create peace between our nations. All of our nations. And furthermore," he said, pickiing up the book, "We have no need for such things. Our civilization is built on democracy, acceptance, freedom, and the pursuit of the Gifts endown upon us by God. Speaking of gifts from God, Peace. We are here for Peace. Simply restating casualties and damages is not moving us closer to our goal."

He paused, " As for the veritability of the mentioned allegations, I do not deny that the CSFEI retaliated to your attack and caused great damage to your cities. That is war. I do deny that the Empire attempted to destroy your way of life or make you bow to our 'evil' ways. Natives in our colonies are always treated with utmost respect. If they are less advanced than a baseline society, they are treated with a noninterference policy. If they are above such, then they are treated as a normal Kiravian citizen would be. We do not seek to assimilate other cultures, we do not seek to destroy them, nor take their people as slaves. We honour and protect all non-Kiravic cultural values in our Empire, for they are as much a part of the Empire as Kirav itself."

"So it was Ryou who fired first?"

OOC: I actually forget. **checks thread**

OOC: Im dropping in, as I am beginning to develop interest in this war.

If that is not okay, simply say so, Kurona, and Ill delete this post.

IC: Bellos Kurivinich Bostock was a mid level diplomat from Red Tide, after having been cleared through security, he was sitting with the other observers and taking down notes as the meeting progressed.

"Well, the Ryou Black Islands' government placed some "incorect propoganda" on the Far Echo Islands, one of our allies. Time and time again, we tried to make them stop, but instead their government classified us as "Nazis", which is far from the truth. To stop this, war was declared, then the Maldorians got dragged into this one, and that is how the war started."

"Which, Excuse my interruption, sir, brings up an interesting question. Sèr Rei, what Nazi-like qualities to we take on other than imperialism?"

"Waring over propaganda, seems a bit trivial to me. Do you have strong reason to belive that this propaganda would be damaging to your nation in the international community?"

OOC: Since Kurona doesnt seem to mind...

IC: Suddenly, Bostock spoke up.

"On the issue of who attacked first, it is really a manor of what you mean by attack. If you meant who declared war, then it is squarely the fault of the Ryu islands, as shown by this statement:"

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13020449&postcount=1

"If you mean who drew first blood, then it is those on the side of the Far Echo Islands."

And with that, Bostock went back to his notes.

Hausilous stood in a proud, professional stance with his arms crossed, occasionaly looking down at the humans around him while rubbing the stubbles of old skin forming on his mouth-less jaw line from age. He stood silent for a fair time, pondering what the humans had said. He finally spoke, with a deep, throaty, yet raspy voice. This seemed quite odd, for his mouth never moved, and he had no lips to form the sounds, yet he was vary audible, and spoke in a humble tone.

"The Consulate of the Toori voted, and commanded me to exact military force to aid out Maldorian brothers," he nodded respectfully at Ordo Fett, who stood next to him, "To the extent of my knowledge, we had no former relations with the likes of the Ryou Black Islands. This said, nor did we have any greavances, or any form of hostile relations with the Far Echoe Islands. For that matter, we have nill knowledge to support the acusations made by the Ryou Black Islands. If you wish to have your judgement, then support your plead with historical facts. And on another note, to our kind, there is no such thing known as what you humans call 'war crimes'. Granted, it is oppiniative, however, war is war. Warriors and non-combatants participate alike."

OOC: Since Kurona doesnt seem to mind...

IC: Suddenly, Bostock spoke up.

"On the issue of who attacked first, it is really a manor of what you mean by attack. If you meant who declared war, then it is squarely the fault of the Ryu islands, as shown by this statement:"

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13020449&postcount=1

"If you mean who drew first blood, then it is those on the side of the Far Echo Islands."

And with that, Bostock went back to his notes.

"I see. According to the decleration the Far Echo has supported terrorist groups. Let's not get into a debate of Terror vs. Freedom Fighters, let's just keep it simple, does the Islands give or show some support to groups with violent intentions?"

Orcus removes some of the semi-translucent paper that Kiravians often used from his case and draws a jade green pen from his coat pocket.

"Sèr Rei, under what terms would the People's Republic of the Ryou Black Islands agree to, and execute the action of ceasing hostilities against the Confederate States of the Far Echo Islands?"

OOC: Sorry! a few posts were made while I was writing this, so reply when you're ready.

Ordo Fett had started to day-dream until he heard a man call his voice. What did I do this time? Looking from where the voice came from, and to his surprise, he saw a Protoss*.

"Ahh someone from a smart nation! How's Toori? Destroying any insolent nations?" Ordo forced himself a small chuckle as he looked up to the large Protoss*.

"I suggest that the Far Echo Islands pay compensation costs for the destruction of allied property and lives, including a few of our aircraft. Speaking of aircraft, our bombing group is tearing up...Neo Savannah, if I recall correctly. Hahaaaa..."


*I think that is how to spell it.

"How much compensation would say is the right ammount to cover these costs?"

"Sèr Fett, please do not try to sway the Allies by reminding us of your assault. I acknowledge that some compensation may be in order, thugh. If I recall, Imperial forces agreed to a cease-fire against your and TRBI's forces for the duration of the talks. Please honour this by calling off your attack, sir."

"Sèr Fett, please do not try to sway the Allies by reminding us of your assault. I acknowledge that some compensation may be in order, thugh. If I recall, Imperial forces agreed to a cease-fire against your and TRBI's forces for the duration of the talks. Please honour this by calling off your attack, sir."

The Mandalorian Delegate was in no mood for indirect conversations. In haste he replied, "Why would we want to do that, so then Far Echo Islands' aircraft and SAM's can shoot them down? I'm sorry, but we are not as stupid as you may think. The Mandalorian Empire is everlasting. Allah au Ackbar!" Laughing to himself, he took a sit next to the Protoss....


EDIT: "We will accept money in the trillions. Haha..."

The Red Tidean diplomat gave a one second dissaproving look at the Maldorian Ambassador before writing on his notes:

Дипломаты Maldorian ужасны.

"The Ryou empire seems to have failed to learn it's history lessons on on World war II and what Nazism is. So I propose we take another page from the history book. I propose a War guilt clause in the identical to the Ryou Black Islands and only the Ryou Black islands. They started and declared war first for insignificant reasons and to try and gain territory. They have failed so far. We cannot let them off the hook."

Hausilous forced a short chuckle, though he was somewhat unaccustomed to human humor. Ordo could hear Hausilous speek in his mind 'If we only had the time,' though he said no words verbaly.


"I am aware of how this oddly planned conflict started as far as acts proclaim, however, I still have yet to understand Ryou Black Islands incentives." Hausilous turned to Sèr Rei with his left eyebrow raised with interest, " what facts do you hold that prove the Far Echoe Islands facist nature?"

"Over $40,000,000,000." Rei said, "and I am a Woman!" she soon yelled at The Kiravian.

The Red Tidean diplomat shot the Ryou Black Island representative the same look he had given the Maldorian representative, and then wrote in his notes:

Тхе Рёус тоо

OOC: TIMEWARP!

"How much compensation would say is the right ammount to cover these costs?"

"Over $40,000,000,000." Rei said, "and I am a Woman!" she soon yelled at The Kiravian.

Дипломаты Maldorian ужасны.

OOC: L.M.F.A.O :p

IC:

"So Fordock, the nation of the young, you propose my nation to receive no compensation for the bombs dropped by Far Echo bombers onto a Maldorian air field in The Black Ryou Islands? Your logic phails. Now go do something productive."

"THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS. You attacked us with malicious intent and now want money. YOU SHOULD PAY US. YOU started the war. YOU started the civilian attacks, and YOU used WMD's.

Ordo Fett was getting hesitant dealing with this wacko.

"Calm down. Go take your temper pills." After another laugh, he continued, "Who am I? YOU bombed Maldorian aircraft. YOU started unprovoked war with Maldorians. YOU are an idiot."


OOC: Lmfao, this is funny...

OOC: Were WMD's used? I distinctively recal RBI banning they're use in this conflict.

"Over $40,000,000,000." Rei said, "and I am a Woman!" she soon yelled at The Kiravian.

"THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS. You attacked us with malicious intent and now want money. YOU SHOULD PAY US. YOU started the war. YOU started the civilian attacks, and YOU used WMD's.

"YOU chose to join an aggressor nation. The aggressor should be punished. If you get involved in a war on the wrong side, the side who specifically attacked with no evidence you should be lucky we don't force you to pay us."

"Did you JUST bother to listen to what I JUST said? You and your allies attacked a Maldorian air field for no reason, whatsoever. Now pay up."

EDIT: "Far Echo bombed us, idiot."

OOC: L.M.F.A.O :p

IC:

"So Fordock, the nation of the young, you propose my nation to receive no compensation for the bombs dropped by Far Echo bombers onto a Maldorian air field in The Black Ryou Islands? Your logic phails. Now go do something productive."

"YOU chose to join an aggressor nation. The aggressor should be punished. If you get involved in a war on the wrong side, the side who specifically attacked with no evidence you should be lucky we don't force you to pay us."

"We only bombed hostile aircraft that had already engaged us. We didn't start the war you allied with the Ryou which makes you the enemy. This is war there is no "I'm friends with your enemy and sending him supplies but you can't attack". And YOU are a Slanderous Bastard."

OOC: uhh, how can you bomb aircraft that your already engaged with? Last I checked, that was pretty hard to do. No offence.

RBI used Gas=WMD.

No, not really. It depends on the agent. Nerve agent, blood agent, etc. Tear gas, mustard gas, VX, etc.

Ordo Fett was getting hesitant dealing with this wacko.

"Calm down. Go take your temper pills." After another laugh, he continued, "Who am I? YOU bombed Maldorian aircraft. YOU started unprovoked war with Maldorians. YOU are an idiot."


OOC: Lmfao, this is funny...

"We only bombed hostile aircraft that had already engaged us. We didn't start the war you allied with the Ryou which makes you the enemy. This is war there is no "I'm friends with your enemy and sending him supplies but you can't attack". And YOU are a Slanderous Bastard."

OOC:My involement is limiytedSo far i have given arms and supplies to FEI.

Joe Erikson, the Binarian Delgate arrived and at the security desk, said"This goes against everything I stand for. In Binaria, Entering a room that has hostiles inside unarmed is consider very unwise." He then grudingly handed over a combat knife and a pistol. When he entered the room he found that the meeting had already started.

OOC: Were WMD's used? I distinctively recal RBI banning they're use in this conflict.

RBI used Gas=WMD.

RBI used Gas=WMD.

OOC: Ok, just checking.


Hausilous spoke up over the aggrivated babbling of the humans around him. His now booming voice cleared the room of all conversation.

"Our terms of brotherhood with the Maldorians remain unchanged. However, the Consulate is not pleased with the recent actions of the Ryou Black Islands. We curse these acts, and deem them vile, unclean, and unholy. Of these events in specific lies the mass slaughter of multiple forms of indiginous aquatic life of this region."

"THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS. You attacked us with malicious intent and now want money. YOU SHOULD PAY US. YOU started the war. YOU started the civilian attacks, and YOU used WMD's.

"We did it after your allies, The Nazis of Far Echo Islands, Sunk one of our Floating Cities for no Reason, Murdering 23,000 Civilians, all because We hunt Dolphins, Seals and Whales."

[[OOC: Oops. Sorry Ryou. I didn't pick it up. Honestly.]]

"Sèr Fett, the Empire will break the ceasfire then. You cannot expect us to have our men stop fighting while your bombers tear up Neo-Savannah. I ask you to reconsider.

And to you, Ma'am Rei, I must clarify that the CFEI considers dolphins and whales to be its citizens. It informed the international community, so thus a mass slaughter of them is considered the same as a mass slaughter of Echoese humans. It does not matter what you consider them, but you knew of the FEI Dolphin Rights Act, and after declaring war, began hunting dolphins to spite the CSFEI."

The Red Tidean diplomat nearly broke his pencil when the Protoss spoke.

'There is someone COMPETENT in here other then me and the Kiravan?'

The Maldorian Diplomat was obviously a bit of a instigator then a true diplomat, the Ryu diplomat had something about Nazis(then again, so did their entire country), the Fordockian Diplomat had FAR to much bluster, and the Far Echo Island diplomat was running insanely late.

Quite suddenly, the Red Tidean diplomat wanted to have been dragged away to the gulag.

"Bull shit. Those cities were armed. They were being used as mobile weapons platforms.

Ryou men and women were joining the Marines to help fight the Utopians and their evil ways. Everywhere, Civilians were doing their part.

The Ryou Government was pulling funds from other things to help with The Military. Victory Gardens grow in all the land Cities

on The Large Floating Cities, Weapons were being readied for fighting on the seas, and to Keep The Evil Utopian Nazis from ever reaching The Ryou Black Islands. in The Grand Temple of Umi no Kami, 400 Dolphins were Sacrificed to her and more were to be offered to give the Ryou Empire Victory against The Utopian Nazis.

this was the Ryous at war.

"Bull shit. Those cities were armed. They were being used as mobile weapons platforms.

"We gave our Civilians Weapons to defend themselves from the likes of you."

No, not really. It depends on the agent. Nerve agent, blood agent, etc. Tear gas, mustard gas, VX, etc.

OOC: Emphasis on that...


Sigh, this discussion is going to go nowhere with that Fordock guy... Slightly uneasy, Mr. Fett rubbed his temples, thinking of his options. I'll just verbally rape him. That betta work.

"Mr...what am I saying, I don't give a shit about a Fordock person. Your logic is ill-conceived and flawed. I suggest you go look around for a picture book. Take a nice long read, boy, and leave the men to do business...

He then turned around and addressed the other delegates, "I suggest that The Far Echo pays I and possibly The Black Ryou Islands for this inconvenience. What was the point of this meeting? It was to work out peace. If this meeting hadn't happened, Neo Savannah would be reduced to rubble. But then again, the bombers are tearing them up as we speak. Ah the irony."

Hausilous fully turned to the female human representing the Ryou Black Islands. His scared face was immotionless, and his voice grew deeper with irritation.

"Human, why do you not achnowledge, nor answere the questions I have asked?"

The Red Tidean diplomat shot the Ryou Black Island representative the same look he had given the Maldorian representative, and then wrote in his notes:

Тхе Рёус тоо

OOC: TIMEWARP!

Rei looked at The Red Tidean and passed a note to him

Вонючая сталинской отморозком

Joesph cleared his throat."It is clear to everyone monitoring the situations that the floating cities were being armed, and as such are considered potentional combatants. If any civilians died in their descruction the fault lies solely with your country, Rei Nakagishima. It was your countries descion to keep the civllians in harms way."

"We gave our Civilians Weapons to defend themselves from the likes of you."

Seemed rather hostile at the time. Any Civilian armed with a weapon intended for hostile use against the enemy is a combatant. Therefore they can be treated as an enemy and full military force may be used. The second they take arms from you the lose civilian status.

Seemed rather hostile at the time. Any Civilian armed with a weapon intended for hostile use against the enemy is a combatant. Therefore they can be treated as an enemy and full military force may be used. The second they take arms from you the lose civilian status.

Rei turned to The Fordockian and started talking in Portuguese

"Porque você justo não dá acima com suas mentiras, você e seus amigos Nazi estão indo falhar e nós continuaremos baleias, selos e golfinhos, e luta da caça a manter nossa maneira de vida de você Nazis."

Rei looked at The Red Tidean and passed a note to him

Вонючая сталинской отморозком

It was obviously some sort of insult(OOC note: the translator wont translate the last word), the Red Tidean diplomat for a moment wondered about what kind of education the Ryou's got, then realized that the Ryou hadnt expected him to be here and assumed him to be communist. He considered laughing at that, but held it back.

OOC: Emphasis on that...


Sigh, this discussion is going to go nowhere with that Fordock guy... Slightly uneasy, Mr. Fett rubbed his temples, thinking of his options. I'll just verbally rape him. That betta work.

"Mr...what am I saying, I don't give a shit about a Fordock person. Your logic is ill-conceived and flawed. I suggest you go look around for a picture book. Take a nice long read, boy, and leave the men to do business...

He then turned around and addressed the other delegates, "I suggest that The Far Echo pays I and possibly The Black Ryou Islands for this inconvenience. What was the point of this meeting? It was to work out peace. If this meeting hadn't happened, Neo Savannah would be reduced to rubble. But then again, the bombers are tearing them up as we speak. Ah the irony."

"That is fucking cheating. Why don't you learn some manners. When you can think long enough to admit your wrong you would be thankful. The aggressor always accepts responsibilities for his action. Would you deny Ryou is the aggressor?

Rei turned to The Fordockian and started talking in Portuguese

"Porque você justo não dá acima com suas mentiras, você e seus amigos Nazi estão indo falhar e nós continuaremos baleias, selos e golfinhos, e luta da caça a manter nossa maneira de vida de você Nazis."

I do not understand. Tu parles francaise?

I do not understand. Tu parles francaise?

"Tu ne sais pas? Tu es un idiot, mon ami. Et aussi, Je ne suis pas le agresseur. Quelle mal!"

OOC: Good thing I take French!

OOC: damn, I knew I should have taken a forgien lanaguage this year. instead of wildlife management.

OOC - This is only My second year doing it so I'm screwed. So to make this simple I would probaly just say Tu vas l'enfer or Tai toi.

"Bull shit. You join the aggressor you become the aggressor. You had no obligation to join this but you decided to. That definitely makes you the aggressor."

He basically said he isn't the aggressor, and I'm an idiot. And I don't know anything.

OOC: @Bin: LMFAO...

Yes, I said:
"Tu ne sais pas? Tu es un idiot, mon ami. Et aussi, Je ne suis pas le agresseur. Quelle mal!"

And meant:
You don't know? You are an idiot, my friend. And also, I am not the aggressor. How sad/bad! *I should have said mauvais for mal, but whatever*

EDIT: SPeaking of the devil, I am doing French HW right now...xD


"I had a base in the Black Ryou Islands. That is like an embassy getting bombed and the embassy-holder gets involved. If you didn't know that, then....umm...wow...I'm at a loss for words..."

OOC: damn, I knew I should have taken a forgien language this year. instead of wildlife management.

He basically said he isn't the aggressor, and I'm an idiot. And I don't know anything.

Tomoyo just scribbled down: 神は私達をすべて助ける!

Tomoyo just scribbled down: 神は私達をすべて助ける!

We the People of Fordock resent this.

(OOC- Anyone looking for historical parallels think Bobby Kenedy for this character.)

Mal you allied yourself before your embassy was attacked.

OOC: 1) I don't have an embassy there, it was an example...>.>

2) I have a military base there that I set up before the war. I believe I was mining something from him so I needed defense. Your ally bombed me, so I had a reason to fight.

Mal you allied yourself before your embassy was attacked.

OOC: 1) I don't have an embassy there, it was an example...>.>

2) I have a military base there that I set up before the war. I believe I was mining something from him so I needed defense. Your ally bombed me, so I had a reason to fight.

I think you joined before the bombings started. I remember you stating something about fairness. Gonna go check now.

Tomoyo just scribbled down: 神は私達をすべて助ける!

"Ok," Rei said, "Miss Tomoyo, The Reason we declared war was that Far Echo Islands Threated us with a Nuclear Attack all because we Fish and Hunt Whales, Seals and Dolphins. The Ryou have been doing this sent they came out of Golgoth around 1,000 Years ago."

She soon started walking around, "The Far Echo Islands surports Eco-Terror groups like 'Blue Peace' which has been known to ram boats full of Exploeives into ships and sink them. We are fighting for our right to live, to be Ryou and not like The People of The Far Echo Islands, Nazis who want to rule the world though Terror by it's Blue Peace Terrorists!"

Ah ha I found the evidence. If you have a military base it was not attacked. Only the capital proper was bombed. You were never attacked. Not to mention even if you were it wouldn't matter as you had no basis to put that base there. You state you put it there to even out the war so Mandolarian troops would fight with RBI troops. Therefore it can't be counted.

OOC: assuming I know nothing of the previous discussions...

Ironically, a supersonic Concord Jet was running late. An early snow in New St. Petersburg had kept the government plane grounded. But now Ulee Hyit strode swiftly toward the door. She wore an aqua camouflage dress that matched the Concord's paint job.

Her two escorts turned over their weapons, MP7A1's and Tyrone 10mm pistols and Swiss Army Knives, to the Kruonan guards, and they fell to the back of the room and she moved toward the table, she popped open her suit case and threw down a nespaper on the table.

"Let’s start negation here." She said with anger.

The newspaper's front page read:
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/The_Far_Echo_Islands/Other/nscnewspaper.png

Ah ha I found the evidence. If you have a military base it was not attacked. Only the capital proper was bombed. You were never attacked. Not to mention even if you were it wouldn't matter as you had no basis to put that base there. You state you put it there to even out the war so Mandolarian troops would fight with RBI troops. Therefore it can't be counted.

Yes, the military base just outside the capital city. There are bound to be a few bombs that miss their target and hit the area around it. Splash/Area of effect anyone? So, yes I was attacked.

EDIT: Nice article, FEI

OOC: Yea it is. You continued the bombings, failing to acknowledge Maldorian presence in the area.

Ordo Fett quickly averted his gaze from the dull delegates to someone else who had just entered his room. Oh great, here comes the people of that....place...

Ignoring the newspaper, he immediately asked, "Thinking of paying compensation for the aircraft of ours you totalled? That and the men you bombed? Let's cut to the chase, I'd like a rough estimate of how much we are going to get..."

However you never made effort to negotiate. I'm sure at that point TCSTFEI what have apologized to your government and paid in full the damage and you could have retreated. We were unaware you had a base there as well so it is not our fault.

OOC: assuming I know nothing of the previous discussions...

Ironically, a supersonic Concord Jet was running late. An early snow in New St. Petersburg had kept the government plane grounded. But now Ulee Hyit strode swiftly toward the door. She wore an aqua camouflage dress that matched the Concord's paint job.

Her two escorts turned over their weapons, MP7A1's and Tyrone 10mm pistols and Swiss Army Knives, to the Kruonan guards, and they fell to the back of the room and she moved toward the table, she popped open her suit case and threw down a nespaper on the table.

"Let’s start negation here." She said with anger.

The newspaper's front page read:
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/The_Far_Echo_Islands/Other/nscnewspaper.png


"We only did it in self Defense against you and your Terrorists." Rei said. You Bomb our Cities and Murder our Civilians, we pay you back in kind."

"Ok," Rei said, "Miss Tomoyo, The Reason we declared war was that Far Echo Islands Threated us with a Nuclear Attack all because we Fish and Hunt Whales, Seals and Dolphins. The Ryou have been doing this sent they came out of Golgoth around 1,000 Years ago."

She soon started walking around, "The Far Echo Islands surports Eco-Terror groups like 'Blue Peace' which has been known to ram boats full of Exploeives into ships and sink them. We are fighting for our right to live, to be Ryou and not like The People of The Far Echo Islands, Nazis who want to rule the world though Terror by it's Blue Peace Terrorists!"

Blue peace has been proven not to be a terrorist organization. They have never committed these acts. The Far Echo Islands have also never threatened Ryou with any sort of attack. True they frown upon your practices but they have not threatened you and and you made an unprovoked attack.

That would mean you admit to these attacks? The Far Echo Islands have also never done that. They have not attacked you EVER.

"Idiot. Complete idiot. Explain this war. Far Echo Islands has just attacked them. Are you deaf, blind, and dumb? This is not rocket science folks. The Far Echo made the first move. No chance for negiotians, nothing. Just BAM an attack."

"We only did it in self Defense against you and your Terrorists." Rei said. You Bomb our Cities and Murder our Civilians, we pay you back in kind."

That would mean you admit to these attacks? The Far Echo Islands have also never done that. They have not attacked you EVER.

TRBI Declared war first. That means he started it. It doesn't matter who makes the first move.


"Yes it does. Look at Germany and USA for example. Germany declared war on the USA for declaring war on Japan, but did Germany move to attack USA? No. USA did. They made the 1st move. Simple logic, people!"

TRBI Declared war first. That means he started it. It doesn't matter who makes the first move.

That situation assumes that TEFI declared war on someone else first. You just declared back too with no ALLIANCE. That is the difference.

"Jesus Christ, boy, you are going in circles." Ordo was about to cry for the idiocy of the Fordock delegate. "I didn't declare war until you bombed us. You bombed us, so we attacked in response. Did that get through your brain, lad?"

"Yes it does. Look at Germany and USA for example. Germany declared war on the USA for declaring war on Japan, but did Germany move to attack USA? No. USA did. They made the 1st move. Simple logic, people!"

That situation assumes that TEFI declared war on someone else first. You just declared back too with no ALLIANCE. That is the difference.

"Jesus Christ, boy, you are going in circles." Ordo was about to cry for the idiocy of the Fordock delegate. "I didn't declare war until you bombed us. You bombed us, so we attacked in response. Did that get through your brain, lad?"

WE DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD A FUCKING BASE. IT WAS A FUCKING ACCIDENT. BUT YOU GET ALL PRISSY AND DECLARE WAR INSTANTLY WITHOUT THINKING!"

OOC- Please understand that was in character and I have great respect for you as an RPer for the most part.

WE DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD A FUCKING BASE. IT WAS A FUCKING ACCIDENT. BUT YOU GET ALL PRISSY AND DECLARE WAR INSTANTLY WITHOUT THINKING!"

OOC- Please understand that was in character and I have great respect for you as an RPer for the most part.

OOC: Yup, my guy has to be kinda harsh as well. We all get the picture...

The Mandalorian delegate made a small mental note to himself and then sat down. He turned to one of his guards, a Mandalorian Brute, and whispered into his ear This guy is insane. Remind me to kill him later. The guard then laughed and nodded his head.

"Now, where was I before I got interrupted by this lunatic." He then pointed at the delegate from Fordock.

"Hey hey hey hold it! Everyone just settle down, now did we come here to discuss terms or to bounc off the walls for two hours? Settle down and focus all of you! Behave like adults for a change."

Tomoyo was 16 years old and she seldom acted like some of the people were acting today.

"Did you do ANY research before coming here? Have you not read our strict anti-terrorism laws? I see Blue Peace for what it is: a bunch of sea loving hippies who like to swim with dolphins! Not some damn incorporation of Al Qaeda and Sea Shepard!"


"What the hell did you just say? Don't even compare your bunch of tree-hugging Blue Peace hippes to Al Qaeda. That group is a savior to all of Islam. How dare you!" Ordo Fett soon broke out into a rage, cursing here and there...

OOC: This is just the delegate's position. He is a lunactic instigator, terrorist lover, flaming, d00d....xD More will happen...gtg, later

"We only did it in self Defense against you and your Terrorists." Rei said. You Bomb our Cities and Murder our Civilians, we pay you back in kind."

"Did you do ANY research before coming here? Have you not read our strict anti-terrorism laws? I see Blue Peace for what it is: a bunch of sea loving hippies who like to swim with dolphins! Not some damn incorporation of Al Qaeda and Sea Shepard!"

"Idiot. Complete idiot. Explain this war. Far Echo Islands has just attacked them. Are you deaf, blind, and dumb? This is not rocket science folks. The Far Echo made the first move. No chance for negations, nothing. Just BAM an attack."

"The Ryouns declared war on us, we responded in kind, but we made a move to end the war quick by killing the Emperor (or Empress). We struck at the most likely location for them to be at, a preemptive strike of sorts only war has already been declared."

OOC idea- We should do this over IRC on the II channel. Then it would actually be a conversation.

By the Deceleration of Just war which only the most democratic nations hold themselves too this was a legal strike. Therefore you cannot complain. If the enemy martials their forces for a clear strike, and this coupled with declared war is perfectly legal.

OOC: TFEI, check your TGs.

Chill out! I did not mean to offend you. *Tries to think of Christian terror organization, strangely, cannot* Just, I meant some other group that is terrorist and not 'the savior of all of Islam...' she ended with a hint of sarcasm.

ooc: TSWP, check your tg's


OOC: Maybe that group that bombs abortion clinics, or maybe the KKK. Not sure of the KKK, though. They be hatin'.

"What the hell did you just say? Don't even compare your bunch of tree-hugging Blue Peace hippes to Al Qaeda. That group is a savior to all of Islam. How dare you!" Ordo Fett soon broke out into a rage, cursing here and there...

OOC: This is just the delegate's position. He is a lunactic instigator, terrorist lover, flaming, d00d....xD More will happen...gtg, later

Chill out! I did not mean to offend you. *Tries to think of Christian terror organization, strangely, cannot* Just, I meant some other group that is terrorist and not 'the savior of all of Islam...' she ended with a hint of sarcasm.

ooc: TSWP, check your tg's

"Hey hey hey hold it! Everyone just settle down, now did we come here to discuss terms or to bounc off the walls for two hours? Settle down and focus all of you! Behave like adults for a change."

Tomoyo was 16 years old and she seldom acted like some of the people were acting today.

"Here are our Terms for Peace." Rei said

(I) Far Echo Islands and it's allies are not to force The Ryou Black Islands to give up Whaling, Fishing, Dolphin Hunting or Seal Hunting.

(II) FEI and it's allies are to pay The People's Republic of The Ryou Black Islands $40,000,000,000 and to give Tribute to The PRRBI in the amonut of $23,000,000,000 monthly

(III) The Ryous will pay $12,000,000 to FEI

(IV) The Ryous are to Keep their Military and not shrink it or get rid of it.

(V) Kirav is to NEVER come near Ryou Territorial Waters and give up any Ideas to enslave The Ryou Black Islands.

(VI) FEI is to disband The Eco-Terrorist Group 'Blue Peace'

(VII) FEI is to give up it's Leader to face trial for War Crimes and Murder.

"These or our terms."

Fordock presents Revised terms


By Signing this treaty the Ryou Black Islands accept that they are the aggressor. They therefore accept all responsibility for the war. They agree to pay the Allied Powers (Fordock, Kirav, and the Far Echo Islands) a total of 50 Billion in reparations. They agree to disband their Air force. They agree to have no Carriers, or Super Dreadnoughts. They agree to have a maximum of 30 ships in their navy. They also agree to limit their army to 100,000 men who are not allowed to engage in hostile action against any parties involved in this war. The Mandolorians agree to withdraw from the region and withdraw all claims.

_______________ -The Condeferate States of The Far Echo Islands

_______________ - The Ryou Black Islands

_______________ - The Prinicipality of Fordock

_______________ - The Mandolorian Representative

_______________ - The Kirivaian Empire

Fordock presents Revised terms


By Signing this treaty the Ryou Black Islands accept that they are the aggressor. They therefore accept all responsibility for the war. They agree to pay the Allied Powers (Fordock, Kirav, and the Far Echo Islands) a total of 50 Billion in reparations. They agree to disband their Air force. They agree to have no Carriers, or Super Dreadnoughts. They agree to have a maximum of 30 ships in their navy. They also agree to limit their army to 100,000 men who are not allowed to engage in hostile action against any parties involved in this war. The Mandolorians agree to withdraw from the region and withdraw all claims.

_______________ -The Condeferate States of The Far Echo Islands

_______________ - The Ryou Black Islands

_______________ - The Prinicipality of Fordock

_______________ - The Mandolorian Representative

_______________ - The Kirivaian Empire


"No." Rei said. "We will never Agree to your terms."

Fordock presents Revised terms


By Signing this treaty the Ryou Black Islands accept that they are the aggressor. They therefore accept all responsibility for the war. They agree to pay the Allied Powers (Fordock, Kirav, and the Far Echo Islands) a total of 50 Billion in reparations. They agree to disband their Air force. They agree to have no Carriers, or Super Dreadnoughts. They agree to have a maximum of 30 ships in their navy. They also agree to limit their army to 100,000 men who are not allowed to engage in hostile action against any parties involved in this war. The Mandolorians agree to withdraw from the region and withdraw all claims.

_______________ -The Condeferate States of The Far Echo Islands

_______________ - The Ryou Black Islands

_______________ - The Prinicipality of Fordock

_______________ - The Mandolorian Representative

_______________ - The Kirivaian Empire

"And what would we gain?"

ooc: TSWP, check your tg's

OOC: Check yours again.

IC:

The Soviet delegate arrived, and late by the yelling coming from the meeting room, and after handing his handgun to the guard at the door, entered the conference.

"Greetings, I'm just here as a neutral observer, dont mind me"

"Military downsizing always comes back to bite you in the end, learn some history. I propose no one is forced to downsize their military. A military serves as a defense force for the whole country. When used wisely anyway. I doubt you will get any of the leaders to face war crimes, keep trying. Now on terms of finances, I think all parties invovled should pay reperations to each other. Make a set ammount."

The soviet delegate finished reading the terms proposed by the Ryous just as the Far Echo diplomat was writing his own, needless to say, he burst out laughing as loudly as any man, seriously, these Ryous must have thought the Echo Islanders to be nothing but morons.

"I believe this would work. I will halt on signing it though, I need to talk to the Mandalore." And with that, Ordo Fett picked up his cell phone and walked off..

"Here are our Terms for Peace." Rei said

(I) Far Echo Islands and it's allies are not to force The Ryou Black Islands to give up Whaling, Fishing, Dolphin Hunting or Seal Hunting.

(II) FEI and it's allies are to pay The People's Republic of The Ryou Black Islands $40,000,000,000 and to give Tribute to The PRRBI in the amonut of $23,000,000,000 monthly

(III) The Ryous will pay $12,000,000 to FEI

(IV) The Ryous are to Keep their Military and not shrink it or get rid of it.

(V) Kirav is to NEVER come near Ryou Territorial Waters and give up any Ideas to enslave The Ryou Black Islands.

(VI) FEI is to disband The Eco-Terrorist Group 'Blue Peace'

(VII) FEI is to give up it's Leader to face trial for War Crimes and Murder.

"These or our terms."


Ulee coughed at the terms, almost a type of laugh, but not quite...

"You declare war on us, and expect us to bend down and kiss your feet? You kill our citizens and a protected species of our nation and expect us not to do anything?

As for my response

(I)I'll agree that it is your little slice of the environment and you can fuck it up however you want.

(II)What kind of drugs are growing in Ryou, I want some.

(III)12 million for 1.2 Trillion, no way in hell.

(IV)As long as we are allowed to do the same this is fine

(V)Err, I cannot speak for the Kiravian

(VI) They're not terrorists damn it.

(VII)Not again.

My terms:
(I) The Ryou Black Islands and its allies are to cease all military operations against the Far Echo Islands and its allies immediately.

(II)The Leader of the Ryou Black Islands be turned over for trial in the Far Echo Islands

(III)The Ryou Black Islands is to pay a sum of 500,000,000,000 (five hundred billion) universal dollars to the Far Echo Islands government over the next five years.

(IV) The Echoese are to keep their Military and no downsizing nor shall scuttling take place

(V) Free trade will take place between the Ryou Black Islands and the Far Echo Islands

(VI) No Groups in the Far Echo Islands shall suffer consequence as they had no participating in this war.

"And what would we gain?"

Fordock is also willing to change the treaty

By Signing this treaty the Ryou Black Islands accept that they are the aggressor. They therefore accept all responsibility for the war. They agree to pay the Allied Powers (Fordock, Kirav, and the Far Echo Islands) a total of 50 Billion in reparations. They agree to abandon all WMD programs that are currently operating. The Mandolorians agree to withdraw from the region and withdraw all claims. The Mandolorians will be paid a fair fee from the Allied powers for all troops lost. (That means everything you lost will be paid back in full.)

_______________ -The Condeferate States of The Far Echo Islands

_______________ - The Ryou Black Islands

_______________ - The Prinicipality of Fordock

_______________ - The Mandolorian Representative

_______________ - The Kirivaian Empire

Ulee coughed at the terms, almost a type of laugh, but not quite...

"You declare war on us, and expect us to bend down and kiss your feet? You kill our citizens and a protected species of our nation and expect us not to do anything?

As for my response

(I)I'll agree that it is your little slice of the environment and you can fuck it up however you want.

(II)What kind of drugs are growing in Ryou, I want some.

(III)12 million for 1.2 Trillion, no way in hell.

(IV)As long as we are allowed to do the same this is fine

(V)Err, I cannot speak for the Kiravian

(VI) They're not terrorists damn it.

(VII)Not again.

My terms:
(I) The Ryou Black Islands and its allies are to cease all military operations against the Far Echo Islands and its allies immediately.

(II)The Leader of the Ryou Black Islands be turned over for trial in the Far Echo Islands

(III)The Ryou Black Islands is to pay a sum of 500,000,000,000 (five hundred billion) universal dollars to the Far Echo Islands government over the next five years.

(IV) The Echoese are to keep their Military and no downsizing nor shall scuttling take place

(V) Free trade will take place between the Ryou Black Islands and the Far Echo Islands

(VI) No Groups in the Far Echo Islands shall suffer consequence as they had no participating in this war.


OOC: the other one is better.

ooc: Since my little fight in Halako against TFEI is wrapped up, I figured I would send a representative.

The Manthian ambassador, Halys Mattan III, sneered at the door-guard as the man queried him about weapons.

"Of course not. Do I look like a fucking grunt to you?"

He swept into the room, leaving his two guards outside the door, and took a seat.

"Sorry I am late, people... there was this war thing which prevented me arriving until now. But now that I'm here, let's get to the business of treaty signing, eh?"

He slid over to the Maldorian ambassador.

"So how much money are they offering, hmm?"

ooc: Since my little fight in Halako against TFEI is wrapped up, I figured I would send a representative.

The Manthian ambassador, Halys Mattan III, sneered at the door-guard as the man queried him about weapons.

"Of course not. Do I look like a fucking grunt to you?"

He swept into the room, leaving his two guards outside the door, and took a seat.

"Sorry I am late, people... there was this war thing which prevented me arriving until now. But now that I'm here, let's get to the business of treaty signing, eh?"

He slid over to the Maldorian ambassador.

"So how much money are they offering, hmm?"


"This is what I am looking at:"

Fordock is also willing to change the treaty

By Signing this treaty the Ryou Black Islands accept that they are the aggressor. They therefore accept all responsibility for the war. They agree to pay the Allied Powers (Fordock, Kirav, and the Far Echo Islands) a total of 50 Billion in reparations. They agree to abandon all WMD programs that are currently operating. The Mandolorians agree to withdraw from the region and withdraw all claims. The Mandolorians will be paid a fair fee from the Allied powers for all troops lost. (That means everything you lost will be paid back in full.)

_______________ -The Condeferate States of The Far Echo Islands

_______________ - The Ryou Black Islands

_______________ - The Prinicipality of Fordock

_______________ - The Mandolorian Representative

_______________ - The Kirivaian Empire

"I am thinking of getting a few million dollars for my troubles and the sadness of the people's families. Aka, more money for the military, haha."

Fordock is also willing to change the treaty

By Signing this treaty the Ryou Black Islands accept that they are the aggressor. They therefore accept all responsibility for the war. They agree to pay the Allied Powers (Fordock, Kirav, and the Far Echo Islands) a total of 50 Billion in reparations. They agree to abandon all WMD programs that are currently operating. The Mandolorians agree to withdraw from the region and withdraw all claims. The Mandolorians will be paid a fair fee from the Allied powers for all troops lost. (That means everything you lost will be paid back in full.)

_______________ -The Condeferate States of The Far Echo Islands

_______________ - The Ryou Black Islands

_______________ - The Prinicipality of Fordock

_______________ - The Mandolorian Representative

_______________ - The Kirivaian Empire


Rei Grabbed the paper, took out a lighter and set the Demands of the Fordockians on fire.

"No." Rei said.

Ordo Fett soon spoke out, "We demand a small amount of money, maybe a few hundred million dollars for our troubles and the urge to pay the families of the men who were murdered by your hands. With that and the compensation costs to us, we will be happy."

"Ah... Aren't they losing the war?"

Mattan wrinkled his brow.

"What on earth makes them think they can extort money from the Ryous? I mean, shouldn't it be the other way around?"

He shrugged.

"Not really my business, though, I suppose... well, it is, but I don't care. I'll be adding a clause, though. In the course of the Far Echo Islands attack on our territories in Halako, they destroyed some infrastructure and some empty missile launchers, and killed several Manthian soldiers. Not to mention they forced us to spend a fair amount of money mobilizing troops, et cetera.

Mattan grinned.

"Ten billion in Manthian markas should cover it."

"Frankly all of you lost plenty of people. That's a lot of greving famlies. All of you inflicted damange upon each other, therefore regardless of who started it, all of you should pay a set ammount."

"We demand an estimated 1 billion USD and "The Mandolorians will be paid a fair fee from the Allied powers for all troops lost. (That means everything you lost will be paid back in full.)"

The Soviet delegate, having observed for a while, approached the other diplomats, he cleared his throat.

"As I, and my goverment, see it, the Ryous are clearly the aggressors here, not only have they gone to war for idiotic and child-like reasons, but now, when they are clearly losing, they demand compensation from the allied powers.

Seriously, if I was the president of the Far Echo Islands, I'd just arrange for an orbital strike on the Ryou's pathetic excuse for a nation. Sadly, I am not him, but I can arrange for said strike, so now, everyone calm down, stop acting like kids and take this seriously, it's no joke, people are getting killed out there while you all argue over some dollars.

All settled? Great, let's focus on the task at hand."

"Frankly all of you lost plenty of people. That's a lot of greving famlies. All of you inflicted damange upon each other, therefore regardless of who started it, all of you should pay a set ammount."

"What type of set ammount?" Rei asked then turned to the Far Echo Islander, "Oh and about you wanting to put The Goddness-Empress on Trial for what you claim are war crimes,...." She soon pulled out a Box, "Look in this."

I would agree to that.

"I will call for $500 billion."

"What type of set ammount?" Rei asked then turned to the Far Echo Islander, "Oh and about you wanting to put The Goddness-Empress on Trial for what you claim are war crimes,...." She soon pulled out a Box, "Look in this."

Taking a moment to think before looking in the box, Ulee had this to say:

"If we both want each other's leaders I say we just drop the whole thing about leaders, you keep yours and I'll keep mine, everyone's happy that way, well, more happy than we'd be any other way.

As for payment, I agree, all nations invloved on either side should pay their enemies 500 billion each. That way everyone is happy."

She forgot about the box.

Snip

The Soviet now spoke to the Far Echo Islands delegate.

"Now see, you are doing this wrong.

YOUR nation was attacked, YOUR citizens were killed, YOUR infrastructure destroyed. It's still being attacked as of the moment.

YOU have no reason to yield to these cowards and morons, as a matter of fact, you should be the one doing the threatening here, you have nothing to fear from the Ryous, they are at YOUR mercy, not the other way round.

Now, please reconsider your stance and make them pay for what THEY did."

Mattan scowled.

"I don't know about anybody else, but Manth is not paying anything to anybody else. However, we would appreciate that reparations payment from the Echoese that I mentioned earlier.

And by 'we would appreciate,' I mean 'this is non-negotiable.' We have a legitimate grievance and will not settle for less. I hope that I make myself clear."

Mattan scowled.

"I don't know about anybody else, but Manth is not paying anything to anybody else. However, we would appreciate that reparations payment from the Echoese that I mentioned earlier.

And by 'we would appreciate,' I mean 'this is non-negotiable.' We have a legitimate grievance and will not settle for less. I hope that I make myself clear."

"Maybe the New Manthians would allow us to help the... reconsider their stance on the subject?"

The Soviet now spoke to the Far Echo Islands delegate.

"Now see, you are doing this wrong.

YOUR nation was attacked, YOUR citizens were killed, YOUR infrastructure destroyed. It's still being attacked as of the moment.

YOU have no reason to yield to these cowards and morons, as a matter of fact, you should be the one doing the threatening here, you have nothing to fear from the Ryous, they are at YOUR mercy, not the other way round.

Now, please reconsider your stance and make them pay for what THEY did."

OOC: Since we did he come?

"Excuse me, Delegate from the Soviet Party, you are out of turn. Now if you don't mind me presenting a draft treaty, that you may all read before you continue to make outragous demands from everyone? Thank you."

The Treaty of Sonomi


Henceforth the signing of this treaty ends all hostile conflict of all warring parties.


(I) Far Echo Islands and its allies are not to force The Ryou Black Islands to give up Whaling, Fishing, Dolphin Hunting or Seal Hunting. As it proves vital for their economy. Likewise RBI and its allies may not interfere with any matters of hunting regarding FEI and its allies economy in their sovereign waters and/or land

(II) Ryou must strictly remain within its territorial and regional boundaries when hunting. Likewise marine hunting activity of FEI applies.

(III) Free trade will take place between the Ryou Black Islands and the Far Echo Islands as well as all warring parties. Importation and product laws will still apply for all nations. (i.e. any prohibitions set in constitutional law)

(IV) No Groups not involved in the direct conflict shall suffer consequence as they had no participation in this war

(V) All nations are asked to abandon any research on Weapons of Mass Destruction. As such this treaty strongly advises a cap on any, should research continue.

(VI) Non of the warring parities will be forced to downsize, reduce, limit, restrict, their military forces so long as they serve for primary self defenses force

(VII) All nations that opposed each other must make an effort to increase friendly diplomatic, economic and military relations with the former hostile countries. Economic and military allies and treaties or simple furtherment of relations on the economic and military front is not compulsory. Diplomatic furtherment of friendly relations however, is compulsory.

(VIII) No nation must aggressively approach, hover, or trespass over one’s territory. All armed forces and their units from all parties shall maintain at least 50 miles from each other at all times except when extenuating circumstances prevent this. Neither nation shall make any show of aggression to the other, including but not limited to:
-Blockades
-Unwarranted Tariffs
-Economic Embargos
-Threats

(IX) All parties shall engage in special restoration projects

(X) All parties will pay the sum of $500 Billion Dollars, so long as these sums are paid, no prosecution will be done.

(XI) All nations shall respect the other's national sovereignty and right to carry out its own government and internal processes at all times.

(XII) Under no circumstances must either side pressure the other personally for reparations or prosecution for damages suffered or otherwise. This would a violation of Article (X).

_______________ -The Condeferate States of The Far Echo Islands

_______________ - The Ryou Black Islands

_______________ - The Prinicipality of Fordock

_______________ - The Mandolorian Representative

_______________ - The Kirivaian Empire


"Questions, comments?"

OOC: TFEI, your city is still being bombed...xD

"Our Soviet friend is right. Your nation has nothing to fear from them. Infact thier leaders' head should be on your wall by now. If you would wish we can have this performed." He consulted his PDA. "Or would you perfer an orbital strike?"

In hindsight, the atmosphere of this thread is not to my taste, and I will instead conclude a separate peace with TFEI elsewhere. Please ignore my previous posts

I refuse to sign this.

"On what grounds?"

"Our Soviet friend is right. Your nation has nothing to fear from them. Infact thier leaders' head should be on your wall by now. If you would wish we can have this performed." He consulted his PDA. "Or would you perfer an orbital strike?"

We do not fear them in the least bit. This is a war we could have likely won. However, the only thing I question is at what costs? I have already lost my cousin and my grandmother to this war, as have millions of other people lost relatives. I am here to show Echo Islander empathy and hospitality.

As for the treaty, I think there needs to be a clause about that no leaders shall be tried for any war crimes, or requested to be detained to another nation.

[#451]

As far as I'm concerned we won. Therefore they should pay money to us not to them.

I refuse to sign this.

"The Fordrockian delegate is right, no man or woman who has ever been proud of his nation would sign that..." he lacked words to describe the treaty "That... pointless waste of time, clearly, it does not ensure that the Ryou Black Islands stay away from TFEI, nor does it ensure that they'll never try to do this again.

This, as our status of neutral nation, is our proposal:


The Ryou Black Islands will pay compensations to the TFEI for any and all damages caused by them and their allies
Likewise, The Far Echo Islands will pay TRBI reparations, for their own actions only
A comittee will be set to ensure that neither side "inflates" the reparations
The reparations shall be fair for both sides, there's no need for another "Treaty of Versailles".
The Ryou Black Islands Armed Forces will be limited, though this point will have to be discussed between the two combatants
The Allied Powers will be allowed to establish and mantain a military base in The Ryou Black Islands territory to ensure that the Ryous never attack TFEI again
Maldorians, or any other power of the Ryou's choosing, will be allowed to mantain a base in Ryou territory to ensure that the Allied Powers do not try to invade or retaliate
A Peace-Keeping base manned by the Kuronans or another neutral third-party will be established in both TFEI and TRBI territory to monitor the situation


This treaty is subject to modifications, of course, as it's only a rough draft.

"If his logic is slightly askew, my Fordockian friend is right, I ask the RBI representative, how much, in dollars and people has this war cost you nation?"

Hausilous grew tired. He was waisting time listening to these humans babble on about their oppinions, and international legal matters that the Toori did not care about, or found even logical. His voice was now very deep, and loud, and the walls nearly shook when he spoke. This was a sign he was in a state of extreme irritation, for he rarely ever spoke unless words were absolutely necissary.

"Hold your toung, humans! I did not grant my pressence at this table to waist my time to listen to your greed spew from your mouths! Now... I speak for the Consulate. The Consulate demands that the Ryou Black Islands cease its pointless, and vile slaughter of the aquatic species in question immediettely! It matters not of which you place your faith within, THIS...IS...WRONG! There is nothing to gain from the genocide of harmless creatures that have done nothing to deserve this treatment! Do not confuse our intentions. We admire your efforts of retaining your traditions, but there is no need for what you have done. The Toori has no use for the vile curancy that influences your pathetic lives, so therefore we shall accept no payment. However, the Consulate has decided to repay the World Soviet Party to rebuild their orbital satelite that we had destroyed. The Consulate also demands that any hostile acts made by this so called 'Blue Peace' group be silenced immediately by the Far Echoe Islands, reguardless of what accusations have been made!" Hausilous paused in his speech momentarily. He slowly turned to the female human that represented the Ryou Black Islands, his stature tall, a shadow glanced across his now dark figure, his eyes gazing into hers, hollow, and angry. "Now... I speak for myself." there was a nervouse silence in the room as the air became heavy and still. "I take offence for your disreguard of my presence. If you continue with your vile acts, then I not only guarantee the Toori will no longer support your government, but I assure you that I will do my best to advise the Consulate that actions should be taken to forcefully stop you from doing it. Perhaps some race in the future make the Ryouan Human their national animal? Then perhaps I slay me a few million?"



With that, Hausilous whirled heavily around, his robe flapping in his wake. He then revealed to the guards his psi-blade concealed on his right arm, that he had wore the whole time. He strode out the doors, and disappeared.

Finally, the representative of Consumer Technologies spoke up.

"Gentlemen, please. Remember that the reason you are here is to stop the war. It is entirely irrelevant who started what and how. The purpose of this meeting should not be to assign blame but to halt the senseless and mutual slaughter and destruction of each other's nations. I advise you all to forget about the blame and about the reparation payments. It is obvious no side will accept sole responsibility for the war or pay any sort of compensation to the other. Agreeing to paying such reperation is the equivalent of saying you WERE to blame for the conflict. If you continue to insist on assigning blame and reparations, there will never be a peace treaty. And I assure you all, gentlemen, that without such a peace treaty the war will do far more damage than whatever reparations you hope to receive would have been able to fix.

If you are concerned about the damage done to your nation and require some form of assistance, the Board of Consumer Technologies will happily lend its aid to all nations damaged by the war. We will lend you our assistance at a low price of the base cost of the reconstruction efforts and in return we simply ask that our corporation is allowed to expand its business into your respective nations. This will both aid in the recovery effort as well as give your economies a much needed boost, something you can always use, especially after a bloody war. If you accept your offer, you will not need reparations.

In order to prevent future conflict, be it by accident or on purpose, I propose a demilitarized zone to be established there where the borders of the nations involved meet. In the long run a mutual trust must be established, but for the time being that trust is simply not there yet and it would be best to put a barrier between the military forces of the warring nations. My corporation/nation also feels it is best if there are is no direct trade between warring nations and that any such trade should be conducted through a third party such as us. Any direct contact between warring nations could restart the conflict again should problems occur. You can all rest assured that, should you choose this option, Consumer Technologies will respect the laws of all nations involved and do whatt can to peacefully resolve whatever trade disputes might arise.

I implore you all to consider what I have said. Blame will not help your people, but peace will. Do not focus on reparations. The Board will be happy to lend its aid to whoever accepts our offer. The Board of the Incorporated States of Consumer Technologies and its people would like to see peace and trade return to the region."

The Red Tidean Diplomat had simply scribbled away at his notepad, but now he looked up and said, "How about a return to the Status Quo? A peace treaty, nothing more, nothing less. No reperations, no reduction of armed forces, no trials of either sides leaders, etc etc."

Cetii Orcus had remained silent in the demands for cash flying back and forth. He was a diplomat, not an accountant.

"I agree with the Red Tidean. A simple peace treaty is likely to be the most effective instrument of peace in this conflict. As for you, Sèr Fett, I again ask you to call off the bombers from Neo-Savannah, or the Kiravian forces will recommence their bombardment. I do not wish to threaten, but we will not sit idly while our troops are in danger and lives are at stake."

"However I'm not sure that will be effective. Something must be imposed upon the Ryou's. We cannot leave them as they are. At this point I believe to find a just and lasting peace something more must happen. They do not think they are beaten (The Ryou's) and so they have no reason not to attempt this again."

Finally, the representative of Consumer Technologies spoke up.

"Gentlemen, please. Remember that the reason you are here is to stop the war. It is entirely irrelevant who started what and how. The purpose of this meeting should not be to assign blame but to halt the senseless and mutual slaughter and destruction of each other's nations. I advise you all to forget about the blame and about the reparation payments. It is obvious no side will accept sole responsibility for the war or pay any sort of compensation to the other. Agreeing to paying such reperation is the equivalent of saying you WERE to blame for the conflict. If you continue to insist on assigning blame and reparations, there will never be a peace treaty. And I assure you all, gentlemen, that without such a peace treaty the war will do far more damage than whatever reparations you hope to receive would have been able to fix.

If you are concerned about the damage done to your nation and require some form of assistance, the Board of Consumer Technologies will happily lend its aid to all nations damaged by the war. We will lend you our assistance at a low price of the base cost of the reconstruction efforts and in return we simply ask that our corporation is allowed to expand its business into your respective nations. This will both aid in the recovery effort as well as give your economies a much needed boost, something you can always use, especially after a bloody war. If you accept your offer, you will not need reparations.

In order to prevent future conflict, be it by accident or on purpose, I propose a demilitarized zone to be established there where the borders of the nations involved meet. In the long run a mutual trust must be established, but for the time being that trust is simply not there yet and it would be best to put a barrier between the military forces of the warring nations. My corporation/nation also feels it is best if there are is no direct trade between warring nations and that any such trade should be conducted through a third party such as us. Any direct contact between warring nations could restart the conflict again should problems occur. You can all rest assured that, should you choose this option, Consumer Technologies will respect the laws of all nations involved and do whatt can to peacefully resolve whatever trade disputes might arise.

I implore you all to consider what I have said. Blame will not help your people, but peace will. Do not focus on reparations. The Board will be happy to lend its aid to whoever accepts our offer. The Board of the Incorporated States of Consumer Technologies and its people would like to see peace and trade return to the region."


"Thank you sir, though I must disagree on trade. The fact is when my allies have engaged in conflict these methods have helped ease tention between them. Like i said earlier, regardless of who started the war and who's side was on who, you all inflicted damage on each other. War is war it doesn't matter who started it, everyone needs to pitch in and finish up. You want to talk history the Allied powers rebuild Europe following the war, rather than punish Germany like they did in the First World War. And I kindly rember the Delegates of the World Soviet Party and of 1010102, that they are third party nations, and while I value imput from all, unless you have been invited by my self or any of these nations, you have no grounds to modofiy my treaty, or speak out for or against any side what so ever. If you want to stay here, I suggest you do such. Now to delgate actually involved and invited, do you want me to revise? But I will not I will NOT, revise to limit anyone's military, put all reperations on one, or upset ones economy and national soveringty. I'll abolish all reprations if I have to, now what is it you want besides laying blame?"

"However I'm not sure that will be effective. Something must be imposed upon the Ryou's. We cannot leave them as they are. At this point I believe to find a just and lasting peace something more must happen. They do not think they are beaten (The Ryou's) and so they have no reason not to attempt this again."

"But my question is, what's to keep the rest of you doing this again? That is why you must further diplomatic relations with each other."

"But my question is, what's to keep the rest of you doing this again? That is why you must further diplomatic relations with each other."

You make the example of the Allies rebuilding Europe. Mind thinking about what happened to Germany? Divided and it became a puppet state. In the long term I think that worked. Also would we have left Hitler around? Would the allies have left him in power if he had not committed suicide? The Marshall plan is fine and well but before that this is the way wars had gone for decades. The trick is to not take too much. Also look at the standard NS war. It ends in occupation or peace. I do not take to imperialism but if it is between that and the Ryou empire still standing with no damage cannot be. Thus at the very least a propose a regime change for the Ryou empire.

"Then I suggest you find away around the standard NS War."

"Then I suggest you find away around the standard NS War."

Why? It seems effective in detering the aggressors. This is our goal. All I want is so the Ryou's do not have the capability for a large scale invasion. They would be defended, hell I would defend 'em myself. But we must make it so the cannot engage in offensive action. At the very least a Regime change is needed.

"By their recent coup, the RBI has shown to be an unstable state. Diplomacy will, regrettably, not stop an unstable state from hostile acts. Stability must be gained in the Ryou political system for the sake of the security of the CFEI and other nearby nations."

Ford, check your TG's

"It doesn't. You think if you occupy Ryou, they will simply put down their weapons and accept your rule? I don't think so. It will be a blood bath on both sides. Frankly, it doesn't seem any better to me. You want another example, AHSCA ceritanly didn't take their occupation. They rebeled, fortunatley it ended in a peace agreement, but it could have been so much worse. Occupation is blunt imperialism. If you are worried about stability, then allow Kurona to take charge. Ryou will trust us. You have no reason to not trust us."

The Red Tidean Diplomat had simply scribbled away at his notepad, but now he looked up and said, "How about a return to the Status Quo? A peace treaty, nothing more, nothing less. No reperations, no reduction of armed forces, no trials of either sides leaders, etc etc."

"I agree with The Red Tidean's Idea and The Kuronan Treaty Idea." Rei said, "and as for TWSP's Stalinist Plan, they can forget it."

Ford, check your TG's

Responded to it.

It doesn't. You think if you occupy Ryou, they will simply put down their weapons and accept your rule? I don't think so. It will be a blood bath on both sides. Frankly, it doesn't seem any better to me. You want another example, AHSCA ceritanly didn't take their occupation. They rebeled, fortunatley it ended in a peace agreement, but it could have been so much worse. Occupation is blunt imperialism.

It is not. It is the ability to try and change the government. All we want to do is place a better government fro the Ryou empire in place. We may have to take casualties but they will be rewarded with a stable nation that can become a valuable ally. And frankly we have gone over the same things. No one is willing to give ground. What happens Now? Maybe this is just a plot so that the Maldorians can attack us as we debate for peace. Rather hypocritical.

"So you mean to tell me you belive the only way to change a government is through violent means?"

"No, Your Majesty, I do not propose occupation, and the Ryou government has made us well aware of their resistance to it. We have already withdrawn plans of provincialization, and extended relations to the ryou government, to which they have not responded. That matters little, though.

However, history has shown that when a state is unstable, it quickly degrades into a danerous dictatorship or militocratic rouge state that poses a threat to regional security. Take our much-used example of 20th century Germany. It had a weak and divided government, which was aggravated by economic depression. It was the perfect situation for Hitler and his 3rd Reich to take power."

Responded to it.



It is not. It is the ability to try and change the government. All we want to do is place a better government fro the Ryou empire in place. We may have to take casualties but they will be rewarded with a stable nation that can become a valuable ally. And frankly we have gone over the same things. No one is willing to give ground. What happens Now? Maybe this is just a plot so that the Maldorians can attack us as we debate for peace. Rather hypocritical.

"Their is a Better Government already in place." Rei said, "Not one that you control! All you want is our Land, Our oil, Our gold, Our Wood you just want us as slaves!"

"No, Your Majesty, I do not propose occupation, and the Ryou government has made us well aware of their resistance to it. We have already withdrawn plans of provincialization, and extended relations to the ryou government, to which they have not responded. That matters little, though.

However, history has shown that when a state is unstable, it quickly degrades into a danerous dictatorship or militocratic rouge state that poses a threat to regional security. Take our much-used example of 20th century Germany. It had a weak and divided government, which was aggravated by economic depression. It was the perfect situation for Hitler and his 3rd Reich to take power."



"Because of the Treaty of Versailles. Now I am willing to send in Kuronan Peace Keepers and more than willing to formally keep in close contact with Ryou. Please I don't think my treaty is perfect, I'm willing to make needed revisions."

"No, Ma'am Rei. If you knew a bit more about us, you'd know that to be incorrect. The UC has banned use of fuel oil and slavery. Our enviornmentalism would forbid us from harvesting your wood. To quote Sèr Fett, your logic phails you."

Needed revisions include the RYOU ADMITTING THEY STARTED THE DAMNED WAR. They started it we defended, they lost, they pay. End of story.

Needed revisions include the RYOU ADMITTING THEY STARTED THE DAMNED WAR. They started it we defended, they lost, they pay. End of story.

"I've had enough of pointing the fingure. We are here to resolve this, laying blame makes things worse. However I am willing to make sure that Ryou does not in anyway spin the details of this war in their media or text of their history."

Fordock, please do checketh thy telegrams.

OOC- Telegrams checked and replied

"I've had enough of pointing the fingure. We are here to resolve this, laying blame makes things worse. However I am willing to make sure that Ryou does not in anyway spin the details of this war in their media or text of their history."

I don't care. It may be pointing fingers but they are clearly wrong. You indicate the need for peace but that can never happen as long as the aggressor remains unpunished. You are of course familer with the principle of Collective Security?

"I am. As for the agressor, you need to watch how much you punish the agressor. Again going back to Germany from the first World War, all the blame was put on Germany and as such, Hitler came along and promised great things, well that erupted. Stop acting like a child with the whole 'He started it!'"

"Consumer Technologies would like to remind the representative of Fordock and all others that the purpose of this meeting should not be to assign blame and that focusing on reparations, be it substantial or symbolic, is detrimental to the peace effort."

The representative of Consumer Technologies then turns to Rei.

"Miss Rei, please be reasonable. We ALL want a peaceful solution to the present conflict. I think your opposition would gladly form a peace treaty with you, but, as they have stated, are concerned your government is too unstable for the treaty to last. Perhaps if you could give some sort of guarantee that your government will not fall the others will be more willing to negotiate. But you must stabilize your nation."

OOC- Telegrams checked and replied



I don't care. It may be pointing fingers but they are clearly wrong. You indicate the need for peace but that can never happen as long as the aggressor remains unpunished. You are of course familer with the principle of Collective Security?

"Jesus Christ, I've had it. Get the hell out of here!" Ordo Fett spoke up, clearly perterbued with the disagreement from the man from Fordock. "Listen to Kurona's idea, will you!? Just shut up!"

"Jesus Christ, I've had it. Get the hell out of here!" Ordo Fett spoke up, clearly perterbued with the disagreement from the man from Fordock. "Listen to Kurona's idea, will you!? Just shut up!"

You just can't admit you signed up on the wrong side. Now I'm fine just letting you go. You should accept that and be thankful.

But also failure to assign blame anywhere can lead to the loser thinking they were right and attempting another invasion.

"There are no winners in war my freind. Only losers. You all lose when you are forced to kill your fellow man. I'll see to it Ryou retains the consequences of their actions."

You just can't admit you signed up on the wrong side. Now I'm fine just letting you go. You should accept that and be thankful.

But also failure to assign blame anywhere can lead to the loser thinking they were right and attempting another invasion.

"Haha. The Tyrannical Mandalorian Empire could beat a nation your size any day. Don't conjure up such ill-conceived ideas, young one. Another invasion? If you invaded, you would have met the true power of Maldorian Army units. You would have been supressed at the beaches, harassed on the road to the capital, and hindered at the capital city. Trust me, it would not be easy."

And with that, Ordo Fett took a seat...

You just can't admit you signed up on the wrong side. Now I'm fine just letting you go. You should accept that and be thankful.

But also failure to assign blame anywhere can lead to the loser thinking they were right and attempting another invasion.

"Then how about we blame you?" Rei said, "Would you like that? oh even Better, lets Blame Gobal Warming or even Automagfreek for starting this war! I amd going to say this, you are scared."

Bullshit. Just admit it is your fault hand over your leader pay us some money and peace is to be had. And there are losers and winners in war. Each side may lose men but one side loses less and one side wins.

"Your own ego and powertrip is really bothering me right now."

But also failure to assign blame anywhere can lead to the loser thinking they were right and attempting another invasion.

"You must not think in terms of a 'winner' and a 'loser'. It seems to my nation that it is evident no one will claim sole responsibility and that insisting on anyone to do so will inevitably lead to a continuation of the war. If this war continues, regardless of whether you or your enemy proves to be the stronger, all nations involved will suffer massive amounts of damage. The result will be crippled nations and an unstable region for generations. Do you think the representative of the Ryou Islands is entirely oblivious to the cost of such an attempt? Surely all those present here understand that, regardless of how they view their own military prowess, their enemies could inflict massive amounts of damage to them if this conflict does not end?"

"As for the Mandalorian Empire, your constant arrogant bullying is entirely misplaced during these talks. I am certain Fordock realizes the cost of continued warfare, but if YOU think such a conflict will not inflict any serious damage upon YOUR nation you are mistaken. This is not the time for military pride or nationalism."

"The Incorporated States of Consumer Technologies would like to urge all representatives to remain calm and adress each other with respect. Remember that you are not only here for your own sakes, but for that of your peoples as well. Do you think they are willing to suffer because of your ill temper?"

Your self righteous bullshit and the fact you think a simple peace treaty solves anything. It is just insulting. Men have died for this on all sides. Now we refuse to honor their sacrifice. Then what did we fight this for. If all we get is straight Peace there is no point. TRBI can just start another war then. So JUST PEACE cannot ever happen. It is an embarrassment to all parties involved.

Bullshit. Just admit it is your fault hand over your leader pay us some money and peace is to be had. And there are losers and winners in war. Each side may lose men but one side loses less and one side wins.

"You are showing your true colors," Rei said, "You don't want Peace you want revenge."

ooc: that's what I'm hoping my treaty is. But I need some feedback.

"Your own ego and powertrip is really bothering me right now."

OOC: Who was that addressed to?

OOC: Can we try and make an effort for peace, this is going knowhere and I have better things to do than swim through pages of useless banter in vain hope of progress being made. Instead of being self-centred try and see the other side of the story and how other parties will react.

Come up with a treaty that works for both sides and does not favour one aide or the other and then everybody can walk away without losing too much face. It seems that everyone is here to get the better of their opposition which isn't the reason why this thread was created. If you want to get the better of each other then take it to the war thread otherwise at least try and work together to produce a treaty all sides are happy with.

EDIT:

"Your own ego and powertrip is really bothering me right now."

LOL

"Silence!" Tomoyo's usual dictating habbits came out when she was in a Legislative meeting. She cleared her throat. "Now," she said calmly "Once again, I'm going to present my treaty, we'll make the needed modifications. And I mean needed. Kay? Kay. I urge all of you regardless of side, to swallow your pride and listen."


The Treaty of Sonomi



Henceforth the signing of this treaty ends all hostile conflict of all warring parties.


(I) Far Echo Islands and its allies are not to force The Ryou Black Islands to give up Whaling, Fishing, Dolphin Hunting or Seal Hunting. As it proves vital for their economy. Likewise RBI and its allies may not interfere with any matters of hunting regarding FEI and its allies economy in their sovereign waters and/or land

(II) Ryou must strictly remain within its territorial and regional boundaries when hunting. Likewise marine hunting activity of FEI applies.

(III) Free trade will take place between the Ryou Black Islands and the Far Echo Islands as well as all warring parties. Importation and product laws will still apply for all nations. (i.e. any prohibitions set in constitutional law)

(IV) No Groups not involved in the direct conflict shall suffer consequence as they had no participation in this war

(V) All nations are asked to abandon any research on Weapons of Mass Destruction. As such this treaty strongly advises a cap on any, should research continue.

(VI) Non of the warring parities will be forced to downsize, reduce, limit, restrict, their military forces so long as they serve for primary self defenses force

(VII) All nations that opposed each other must make an effort to increase friendly diplomatic, economic and military relations with the former hostile countries. Economic and military allies and treaties or simple furtherment of relations on the economic and military front is not compulsory. Diplomatic furtherment of friendly relations however, is compulsory.

(VIII) No nation must aggressively approach, hover, or trespass over one’s territory. All armed forces and their units from all parties shall maintain at least 50 miles from each other at all times except when extenuating circumstances prevent this. Neither nation shall make any show of aggression to the other, including but not limited to:
-Blockades
-Unwarranted Tariffs
-Economic Embargos
-Threats

(IX) All parties shall engage in special restoration projects

(X) All parties will pay the sum of $500 Billion Dollars, so long as these sums are paid, no prosecution will be done.

(XI) All nations shall respect the other's national sovereignty and right to carry out its own government and internal processes at all times.

(XII) Under no circumstances must either side pressure the other personally for reparations or prosecution for damages suffered or otherwise. This would a violation of Article (X).

_______________ -The Condeferate States of The Far Echo Islands

_______________ - The Ryou Black Islands

_______________ - The Prinicipality of Fordock

_______________ - The Mandolorian Representative

_______________ - The Kirivaian Empire

OOC: Who was that addressed to?

ooc: it was aimed at Fordock. I really need to rember to hit the quote button.

OOC: Can someone tell me what's happened, I apologize for not being here.

If I were to change this I would end the III clause. Some nations such as my own will refuse to trade with the Ryou out of spite. This isn't hostile. Clause IV because the Ryou started the war and thus need harsher treatment. Clause V, I refuse to stop any WMD programs in my country. Clause X because it is stupid.If every country pays 500 Billion to every other country than you all have the exact same amount of money you started it with not to mention it should be a percentage of money as smaller nations may not be able to afford it. Clause XII, Again the Ryou need be punished at least to a degree.

Thereby I would create a new clause. Reparations would be 50% of damage done by the Ryou's given to the allies. The allies would give out 30% of the money for damage they have done. What say ye?

"Silence!" Tomoyo's usual dictating habbits came out when she was in a Legislative meeting. She cleared her throat. "Now," she said calmly "Once again, I'm going to present my treaty, we'll make the needed modifications. And I mean needed. Kay? Kay. I urge all of you regardless of side, to swallow your pride and listen."

"I will Sign it." Rei said

Rei Nakagishima, Premir of The People's Republic of The Ryou Black Islands.

"If you refuse to give up your WMD's don't expect Ryou to either. Frankly why you want to play with such barberic weaponry is beyond me. As for reperations I have a new idea, why don't we keep the reperations clause but instead we pay it to someone like say, Consumer Technologies? And CT appropriates the funds into restoration projects. "

I don't expect the Ryou's to give up their WMD's. It is their right to have them.

If I were to change this I would end the III clause. Some nations such as my own will refuse to trade with the Ryou out of spite. This isn't hostile. Clause IV because the Ryou started the war and thus need harsher treatment. Clause V, I refuse to stop any WMD programs in my country. Clause X because it is stupid.If every country pays 500 Billion to every other country than you all have the exact same amount of money you started it with not to mention it should be a percentage of money as smaller nations may not be able to afford it. Clause XII, Again the Ryou need be punished at least to a degree.

Thereby I would create a new clause. Reparations would be 50% of damage done by the Ryou's given to the allies. The allies would give out 30% of the money for damage they have done. What say ye?

"If you don't like it then walk out." Rei said, "You are afraid of something fair to all nations, that is what you Nazis fear, fair treaties. So if you don't like it, then don't sign it, Don't let the door hit you on the way out."

If I were to change this I would end the III clause. Some nations such as my own will refuse to trade with the Ryou out of spite.

"If Fordock simply refuses to trade with RBI directly, then perhaps our earlier trade offer would be suitable for them, as well as for any other nations that refuse to have any such direct dealings with each other."

"Perhaps it is a good idea for a short recess, so that everyone may calm down and reflect on the treaty proposed by Kurona."

You are afraid of losing and appearing weak. Have no fear you have already done that.

(V) All nations are asked to abandon any research on Weapons of Mass Destruction. As such this treaty strongly advises a cap on any, should research continue.

"How would this help us? We find this as a setback."

"That's enough from both of you! Rei, delegate. Settle down. I remind Clause V is optional, you want them than you can keep them. Consumer Tech, would you accept my proposal of taking funds from all countreis and appropriating them? Would all of you accept that?"

"If you refuse to give up your WMD's don't expect Ryou to either. Frankly why you want to play with such barberic weaponry is beyond me. As for reperations I have a new idea, why don't we keep the reperations clause but instead we pay it to someone like say, Consumer Technologies? And CT appropriates the funds into restoration projects. "

"Consumer Technologies would gladly accept the responsibility of aiding all nations affected by the war in their restoration efforts. You have our assurance that we will follow your nation's laws and that we will help EVERY nation that asks for our assistance and that each nation will receive equal treatment."

You are afraid of losing and appearing weak. Have no fear you have already done that.

"Fordock's amendment is crap. We will sign the treaty excluding the WMD clause and Fordock's idea."

You are afraid of losing and appearing weak. Have no fear you have already done that.

Rei smiled at the Fordockian......then she soon Jumped up and leaped over the table and attacked The Fordockian.

While Rei had no weapons, she was a good Marshal Artist and started Punching The Fordockian.

Rei smiled at the Fordockian......then she soon Jumped up and leaped over the table and attacked The Fordockian.

While Rei had no weapons, she was a good Marshal Artist and started Punching The Fordockian.


Two guards seized Rei, and held her in a bind.

"This is exactly why I had you forfit your weapons! I call a recess! Bring Rei to my chambers."

"As you wish."


They sat Rei down in a chair. "Do you want to blow this? Is that it? I'm going out on a limb to help your country, and this isn't what I call showing your appreciation."

OOC: My men never 'forfeited' my weapons, :D

"Haha, kill that Fordockian idiot!" Ordo Fett, taking advantage of this moment, starting cheering as the man from Fordock was getting decimated until two daft looking men apprehended the aggressor.

Damn, she shoulda killed that guy. Haha...

Two guards seized Rei, and held her in a bind.

"This is exactly why I had you forfit your weapons! I call a recess! Bring Rei to my chambers."

"As you wish."


They sat Rei down in a chair. "Do you want to blow this? Is that it? I'm going out on a limb to help your country, and this isn't what I call showing your appreciation."

"I found his remark Insulting." Rei said, "My Brother, Barbarossa II of Hataria was Betrayed and Murdered by a nation like Fordock, My old homeland of Hataria was destroyed by nations like Fordock, all because they were afraid of Hatarians, Ryous and others."

"I know, I understand but unless you want your new country settled I strongly advise you to not get in over your head. He was out of line and I sympathize. But for you sake keep your temper in check and let's negotiate this treaty. Okay?"

"I know, I understand but unless you want your new country settled I strongly advise you to not get in over your head. He was out of line and I sympathize. But for you sake keep your temper in check and let's negotiate this treaty. Okay?"

"Ok." Rei said

OOC: Where are we? Sorry for not posting.

Tomoyo gave her a pat. They re-entered the chambers. "Is he all right?"

"He'll be fine ma'am."

"Okay, now that episode is over, let's get back down to business."

OOC: Where are we? Sorry for not posting.

ooc: we are discussing matters of a treaty

We have now seen that the Ryou's delegate cannot control himself in strict diplomatic sessions. How can we expect her to control a country our do anything else? We must change her regime.

"Were only human Mekhran-sama, we make mistakes. I am glad to see you weren't too harmed."

We have now seen that the Ryou's delegate cannot control himself in strict diplomatic sessions. How can we expect her to control a country our do anything else? We must change her regime.

"How about we change your Regime?" Rei said as she came back in. "We will give you a warning since The Ryous have signed Kurona's Treaty, You ever try to force a Government that The Ryous don't want, You will have a rebelion against it and your troops if they try to help The Puppet Government will be coming back in little Wooden Boxes."

We have now seen that the Ryou's delegate cannot control himself in strict diplomatic sessions. How can we expect her to control a country our do anything else? We must change her regime.

Too bad you weren't dead. The Mandalorian muttered. Ignoring the whining baby, he addressed the treaty. "I suppose it could work, as long as Fordock doesn't have a say in it. It seems that when they say something, it ends up in the bad end..."

Too bad you weren't dead. The Mandalorian muttered. Ignoring the whining baby, he addressed the treaty. "I suppose it could work, as long as Fordock doesn't have a say in it. It seems that when they say something, it ends up in the bad end..."

The voice of the representative of Consumer Technologies boomed through the room. Seemingly angered for the first time.
"Would the Mandalorian representative please restrain himself and cease his constant attempts to disrupt these meetings!? Your opinion of Fordock is well known, there is no need to reiterate it!"

OOC - I feel rather like the French in WWI. Always found it funny he got fired after Versailles for not pushing far enough.

Mandolorians why don't you just stay out of this? What do you have to gain?

"How about we change your Regime?" Rei said as she came back in. "We will give you a warning since The Ryous have signed Kurona's Treaty, You ever try to force a Government that The Ryous don't want, You will have a rebelion against it and your troops if they try to help The Puppet Government will be coming back in little Wooden Boxes."


"Rei." Tomyo sternly reminded.

"Now can we please get back to buisness?"

"I would like to add that if Fordock tries to force us to give up our Government, The Ryous will fight it." Rei said, "Remember what happened when The evil New Prussian Empire Destroyed the Hatarian Empire, it caused disorder in the name of it's evil ways, just as Fordock is wanting."

"The Fordockian Government is like The NPE, evil and Greedy, If a Government should be changed it should be theirs."

OOC - I feel rather like the French in WWI. Always found it funny he got fired after Versailles for not pushing far enough.

Mandolorians why don't you just stay out of this? What do you have to gain?

"For Allah's sake, it is Mandalorians NOT Mandolorians. Get your facts straight. What do you have to gain? We have to gain money from those that you murdered, idiot."

The voice of the representative of Consumer Technologies boomed through the room. Seemingly angered for the first time.
"Would the Mandalorian representative please restrain himself and cease his constant attempts to disrupt these meetings!? Your opinion of Fordock is well known, there is no need to reiterate it!"

Looking in the direction of the new voice, Ordo Fett soon replied. "And who are you, little one? One of those nations who was just formed a few days ago? What is your business here? What do you want to gain from this war? Butt out of this."

Looking in the direction of the new voice, Ordo Fett soon replied. "And who are you, little one? One of those nations who was just formed a few days ago? What is your business here? What do you want to gain from this war? Butt out of this."

"Hush! Now CT is so far the only third party nation I've come to respect in this meeting. If it's agreed by all parites CT will handle the reperation fundings and restoration."

"I would like to add that if Fordock tries to force us to give up our Government, The Ryous will fight it." Rei said, "Remember what happened when The evil New Prussian Empire Destroyed the Hatarian Empire, it caused disorder in the name of it's evil ways, just as Fordock is wanting."

"The Fordockian Government is like The NPE, evil and Greedy, If a Government should be changed it should be theirs."

"Please do not accuse the governments of the representatives of such things. Such accusations will get us nowhere."

"Looking in the direction of the new voice, Ordo Fett soon replied. "And who are you, little one? One of those nations who was just formed a few days ago? What is your business here? What do you want to gain from this war? Butt out of this."

The representative of Consumer Technologies raised his left eyebrow at the Mandalorian.
"You will not get a rise out of me, sir. I am the representative of the Incorporated States of Consumer Technologies. I am here as an observer and advisor to ensure that this meeting ends in peace, rather than war, and to offer its assistance to whatever nations need help with the restoration, including yours. Consumer Technologies certainly has interests at stake here. A stable region will allow for more trade oppertunities; trade oppertunities which would benefit your nation as well."

"Hush! Now CT is so far the only third party nation I've come to respect in this meeting. If it's agreed by all parites CT will handle the reperation fundings and restoration."

"I am agreeing to it." Rei said.

This is going no where. The Principality of Fordock withdraws from these talks and asserts itself to be at war with the Ryou and only the Ryou.

The Minister of Diplomacy then walked out of the building.

This is going no where. The Principality of Fordock withdraws from these talks and asserts itself to be at war with the Ryou and only the Ryou.

The Minister of Diplomacy then walked out of the building.

Rei soon yelled to The Fordockian "You do know that We are Part of The Stevid Empire and the Corporate Allaince! You are sealing your doom!"

Orcus muttered a string of curses in Coscivian, "See! THis has gotten us no where! We came here to end this war! But no, of course not! We are just shooting out accusations and demands for money! Millions are dead, thousands are dying, millions more will die if this continues. If any of you, be you Allied of Ryou-aligned, care in the least about the people of the nation that you come to represent, you would stop this madness, show some respect, and do hat you came here to do!"

This is going no where. The Principality of Fordock withdraws from these talks and asserts itself to be at war with the Ryou and only the Ryou.

The Minister of Diplomacy then walked out of the building.

Ordo Fett nodded his head at one of the guards, who then casually followed the Fordockian man. This mission would be simple; to kill the bastard. If questioned on where he was going, he would simply state that he had to get something from his car. He would slowly pull out his Hardballer pistol. With his pre-set poison tipped round, he would shoot the unsespecting man between the eyes, instantly paralzying him*. Once the feat was done, he was scram into some alleyway and get to the pre-set location...He would have no idea what hit him.

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"So, now that that idiot is gone, what are the terms?"


*I think it paralzes there.

"Thoes that are left can still agree to terms of my proposal."

"Thoes that are left can still agree to terms of my proposal."

"I believe it is most reasonable and will sign. However, we wish to sign last to make sure that there are no hidden amendments and the like."

"Your Majesty, The Kiravian Empire will gladly sign this treaty if it ends this war. Lady and Gentlemen assembled, I ask all of you to sign it ass well."

Ordo Fett nodded his head at one of the guards, who then casually followed the Fordockian man. This mission would be simple; to kill the bastard. If questioned on where he was going, he would simply state that he had to get something from his car. He would slowly pull out his Hardballer pistol. With his pre-set poison tipped round, he would shoot the unsespecting man between the eyes, instantly paralzying him*. Once the feat was done, he was scram into some alleyway and get to the pre-set location...He would have no idea what hit him.


OOC- You do know you have no guards with you? And I don't think Kurona's would be that easy to bribe.

OOC- You do know you have no guards with you? And I don't think Kurona's would be that easy to bribe.

OOC: Why not? Yes I would. I said that I conferred with my guards many times. I didn't bribe them. Now just make IC post, please

"Thoes that are left can still agree to terms of my proposal."

"I am already agreeing to this." Rei said, "I want this war to end."

OOC: Yup, my guy has to be kinda harsh as well. We all get the picture...

The Mandalorian delegate made a small mental note to himself and then sat down. He turned to one of his guards, a Mandalorian Brute, and whispered into his ear This guy is insane. Remind me to kill him later. The guard then laughed and nodded his head.

"Now, where was I before I got interrupted by this lunatic." He then pointed at the delegate from Fordock.

Proof

OOC - Kurona didn't you say something about no private guards?

"So that's 3 for the treaty."

Fordock, check thine TG's

Yes I did. All security is provided by the Royal Kuronan Guard

Yes I did. All security is provided by the Royal Kuronan Guard

Then lol, I still would have sent Brutes.

Mando that assassination attempt is ignored because no private guards can be had.

The Kiravian delegate leaned back in his chair. This was the absolute worst international meeting he'd been to. There was no civility in the least, no discussion, and no constructive results. It was like a lawsuit in one of those countries where the legal system allowed people financial compensation for emotional damages. A courtroom where people spent weeks arguing about something that was abstract and open for interpreatation, and furthermore had nothing to do with the goal.

Mando that assassination attempt is ignored because no private guards can be had.

Very well...Here you go:

"Hold on a sec, I have a phone call to make." Walking off, he got on the phone with a Mandalorian Brute outside of the buliding. "Yea, some guy just left the building...Shoot him.."

This mission would be simple; to kill the bastard. He slowly pulled out his Hardballer pistol. With his pre-set poison tipped round, he walked up to the man and fired three rounds at the man's forehead. Once the feat was done, he was scram into some alleyway and get to the pre-set location...He would have no idea what hit him.

The Fordockian walked to his car. He noticed someone following him. (Ah Ex-military). He heard the loud footsteps. And then he flipped around and shot the bastard in the chest. The Fordockian delegate than ran into a bullet proof car and drove away.

Fordock, attend to thy inbox.

The Fordockian walked to his car. He noticed someone following him. (Ah Ex-military). He heard the loud footsteps. And then he flipped around and shot the bastard in the chest. The Fordockian delegate than ran into a bullet proof car and drove away.

OOC: I'm gonna have to call that. You have no idea that someone would be following you until your guy is a paranoid freak who shoots whoever happens to be behind him.


EDIT: I think Mandalorian Elites have more training in assasination than a diplomat from a rather young nation...>.>

Ordo Fett nodded his head at one of the guards, who then casually followed the Fordockian man. This mission would be simple; to kill the bastard. If questioned on where he was going, he would simply state that he had to get something from his car. He would slowly pull out his Hardballer pistol. With his pre-set poison tipped round, he would shoot the unsespecting man between the eyes, instantly paralzying him*. Once the feat was done, he was scram into some alleyway and get to the pre-set location...He would have no idea what hit him.

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"So, now that that idiot is gone, what are the terms?"


*I think it paralzes there.

OOC: I don't think I've read a more unfeasible attempt to kill a political figure of another nation. Be realistic please, Kurona isn't in the dark ages, this is a conference to end a war being fought for no other reason other than raw bitterness so the chances of an assassination would be extremely high. Obvious and visible measures would be taken to prevent any weapons being taken into the hall. Not just being physically frisked but also metal detectors. There is no possible way that a gun could have been taken into that conference hall.

I'm afraid I have to side with Fordock on this one (all credit to him for not exploding with rage at this less than adequately RPed assassination attempt), his own guards are not blithering idiots or else they wouldn't be guarding such an important figure. They would easily kill the assassin almost immediately, your nation would be implicated as well to being openly hostile and so this act would end all peace talks and war would rage for months onwards.

C'mon people, let's try a tad harder to work peace out. One nation has already walked out in disgust and who can blame him- this is going around in circles and a brawl broke out. Everyone seems desperate for money..... ditch that, ditch the pride and try and come to the sense that a lasting peace is worth more than a couple of billion dollars.

EDIT: I type slow, Fordock's alreayd replied...but my point still stands.

OOC: I'm gonna have to call that. You have no idea that someone would be following you until your guy is a paranoid freak who shoots whoever happens to be behind him.


EDIT: I think Mandalorian Elites have more training in assasination than a diplomat from a rather young nation...>.>


I consider what Mal did a Godmode myself. He had no reason to suspect me of this and it is ridiculous to assume that he had someone waiting outside with a special poison gun that NO ONE NOTICED OR QUESTIONED. Not to mention by the time he finished making the call I would have already been in an armored car. When he inquires I shall tell him this.

Copy of a telegram I sent Kirav. You godmode I respond. You have guards I would too.

Hear, Hear Stevid! Well said!

OOC: I don't think I've read a more unfeasible attempt to kill a political figure of another nation. Be realistic please, Kurona isn't in the dark ages, this is a conference to end a war being fought for no other reason other than raw bitterness so the chances of an assassination would be extremely high. Obvious and visible measures would be taken to prevent any weapons being taken into the hall. Not just being physically frisked but also metal detectors. There is no possible way that a gun could have been taken into that conference hall.

I'm afraid I have to side with Fordock on this one (all credit to him for not exploding with rage at this less than adequately RPed assassination attempt), his own guards are not blithering idiots or else they wouldn't be guarding such an important figure. They would easily kill the assassin almost immediately, your nation would be implicated as well to being openly hostile and so this act would end all peace talks and war would rage for months onwards.

C'mon people, let's try a tad harder to work peace out. One nation has already walked out in disgust and who can blame him- this is going around in circles and a brawl broke out. Everyone seems desperate for money..... ditch that, ditch the pride and try and come to the sense that a lasting peace is worth more than a couple of billion dollars.

EDIT: I type slow, Fordock's alreayd replied...but my point still stands.


That logic is phail. Get on MSN, beacuse your opinion ain't right...

OOC: I don't think I've read a more unfeasible attempt to kill a political figure of another nation. Be realistic please, Kurona isn't in the dark ages, this is a conference to end a war being fought for no other reason other than raw bitterness so the chances of an assassination would be extremely high. Obvious and visible measures would be taken to prevent any weapons being taken into the hall. Not just being physically frisked but also metal detectors. There is no possible way that a gun could have been taken into that conference hall.

I'm afraid I have to side with Fordock on this one (all credit to him for not exploding with rage at this less than adequately RPed assassination attempt), his own guards are not blithering idiots or else they wouldn't be guarding such an important figure. They would easily kill the assassin almost immediately, your nation would be implicated as well to being openly hostile and so this act would end all peace talks and war would rage for months onwards.

C'mon people, let's try a tad harder to work peace out. One nation has already walked out in disgust and who can blame him- this is going around in circles and a brawl broke out. Everyone seems desperate for money..... ditch that, ditch the pride and try and come to the sense that a lasting peace is worth more than a couple of billion dollars.

EDIT: I type slow, Fordock's alreayd replied...but my point still stands.

Here here

My current statement is Mal either withdraw your attempt or I will consider your man dead mine escaped and my country calling for your diplomat's head.

yes assasinations are rediclious

I consider what Mal did a Godmode myself. He had no reason to suspect me of this and it is ridiculous to assume that he had someone waiting outside with a special poison gun that NO ONE NOTICED OR QUESTIONED. Not to mention by the time he finished making the call I would have already been in an armored car. When he inquires I shall tell him this.

Copy of a telegram I sent Kirav. You godmode I respond. You have guards I would too.

1) You never addressed guards coming and going..;)

2) He was in a car. No problem with that. Special Poison gun? I call it a Hardballer. It is a NS gun that can be armed with armor piercing, normal, poison, etc.

3) Doubt it. Since this was a meeting, the parking lot would be crowded. You would have to walk all the way to your spot and then my guy can get you there....

I'm online Mal, what do you wanna say?

I suggest that we edit this out, and fo'get 'bout it. Can we get down to some REAL diplomacy here?

I suggest that we edit this out, and fo'get 'bout it. Can we get down to some REAL diplomacy here?

OOC: I Agree.

OOC - Mal and I are discussing it over AIM.

Likewise

Is anyone else for dropping this whole asassination thing as of yet besides me and Ryou?