NationStates Jolt Archive

Dont worry, I would be glad to let you exist if I get the provinces I asked for. I kinds like weak buffer states between me and possible enemies.

Nah, currently I plan to fight for bitter end, no reason to make things easy for you :P

Btw, I probably will reply to your post then Ruggkrook has also posted so that I could keep both fronts running in synchronisation.

If at all possibly I'd like to to claim bolivia, peru, argentina, and chile, youghly, for about 11 points and angola as a colony, for, 1 point I think? 1/3 of 3 is 1 so if I'm doing it right I think that's about right...

Homeland claims- 11
Colony- 1
Economy 3
Tech 2
military 3

The nation would be known as "Nova Bolivaria"

double for bump, would it be okay if I join? and for my points, it appears most people have tech, economy, and military, rated at 5 or 4, should I reconsider things or continue being a large, well populated country but more backwards?

I'm still waiting for a reply from Bredford in the Manchuria invasion thread.

Anyway, a small note here. I noticed that people have some troubles with the pops they're using for their countries. Remember that the configuration of the country you are RPing might be different from what it was then.

*Case in point, Germany, Russia *albeit Russia is divided into little pieces," Great Britain and a few others.

Mine would be easy enough fortunately
and fielding a .5% army my stats would look like this for Pop...(excluding the colony pop from the .05 max for an army as the goal is to control the colony, not arm it)

Argentina 39,550,000
Bolivia 21,590,000
Chile 29,637,000
Peru 27,850,000
Total: 118,627,000
Angola 48,610,000
Total /w Angola: 167,237,000
Max army size: 5,931,350

I have trouble useing the popluation site, I need to know what West russia's poplaution and Thailands poplautions were in 1895.

get a date as near as you can to 1890, then add three 0s to the end of that number. For example 30,4 doesn't mean three hundred and four people, it means 304,000it means three hundred and four thousand. This is because populations are in thousands.

Much to my regret, I am pulling out of this RP. Best of luck to all its members and the thread itself.

bumping this and a question

Economy does not equal national wealth right? just a nation's presence and power in the world markets? for instance, my territories would have a pretty decent gold and silver reserve, but they have an economy of 3 points. Also, even though my tech is 2, could I give my colonial army Pith helmets? I'd like to have my homelanders use shakos.

bumping this and a question

Economy does not equal national wealth right? just a nation's presence and power in the world markets? for instance, my territories would have a pretty decent gold and silver reserve, but they have an economy of 3 points. Also, even though my tech is 2, could I give my colonial army Pith helmets? I'd like to have my homelanders use shakos.

Your right. If your resources such as are larger than mine, even though you dont have the tech r eceonomy, think of it this way. The Romans even mined gold and silver, so Im sure you can. But you wont be as rich in terms of actual currency since your nation has few banks and such.

I'm fairly sure I have the ability to mine some of the Angolan diamonds (nothing deep), and a good deal of South American gold/silver, making me, in terms of pure wealth, one of the wealthier nations. However, unless the capital is used, it's not capital, hence why Tibet at the time of china's invasion was definitely one of the richer nations, based on sheer gold reserves, it really wasn't so rich because it's gold reserves didn't count for anything as it lacked the ability to utilize said capital. This is the kind of position I'm in right? large monetary reserves, but a chunk of which are very much so useless because I lack banks/access to the market. Right?

anyways, just waiting to see whether or not I can be accepted with what I have..

I'm fairly sure I have the ability to mine some of the Angolan diamonds (nothing deep), and a good deal of South American gold/silver, making me, in terms of pure wealth, one of the wealthier nations. However, unless the capital is used, it's not capital, hence why Tibet at the time of china's invasion was definitely one of the richer nations, based on sheer gold reserves, it really wasn't so rich because it's gold reserves didn't count for anything as it lacked the ability to utilize said capital. This is the kind of position I'm in right? large monetary reserves, but a chunk of which are very much so useless because I lack banks/access to the market. Right?

anyways, just waiting to see whether or not I can be accepted with what I have..

Ya thats pretty much it, Im sure my nation would be interested in purchasing large stocks of those diamonds and other such natural resources. If not, after Poland is gone... YAY FOR IMPERIALISM! *Evil Smile*

mmm... Scramble for africa... I smell a Berlin conference! but yeah, if I get accepted I could use a powerful European power as an ally, diamonds for guns! new meaning to blood diamonds... I too would like to try colonialism, using a different colonialist style than might be found in the RL european powers at this time, Probably something along the line of Free Land for colonists and just settle a punch of people in unclaimed areas to have some stake in them

Well, if and when I crush my current enemy and garrison 200k troops or so in his lands im sure I want to get more lands (Hint:Stay away from Namibia, Tanzania, Camaroon and the Ivory Coast)

fine, but you buy namibia back from us after our settlers in angola illegally settle namibia >_> actually, bluntly the territories I was going to try and settle for my population were going to be Sao Tome/Principe, and possibly, Zambia/congo. I don't think i have the economy to push to the eastern coast of africa or maintain the desert-state of namibia beyond settling the northern plains. Though I suppose I could send those gauchos from the pampas... hmmmm...

You're going to demand tribute from greece in order to invade france! You monster!

I kid, and in truth like I said, past the very northern bit, i couldn't support colonies in Namibia, besides, I'm more interested in an alliance.

fine, but you buy namibia back from us after our settlers in angola illegally settle namibia >_> actually, bluntly the territories I was going to try and settle for my population were going to be Sao Tome/Principe, and possibly, Zambia/congo. I don't think i have the economy to push to the eastern coast of africa or maintain the desert-state of namibia beyond settling the northern plains. Though I suppose I could send those gauchos from the pampas... hmmmm...

I have no intention of buying anything, perhaps with the heads of dead enemy soldiers, but with nothing else. Im going to pull a Hunnic style takeover. They funner.

You're going to demand tribute from greece in order to invade france! You monster!

I kid, and in truth like I said, past the very northern bit, i couldn't support colonies in Namibia, besides, I'm more interested in an alliance.

According to the site, Russia had 67 million people in 1897, now I am assuming most of the popluation lives in the west, and I control the west.

I'd say subtract 7 million just to account for the Siberian population and stick with an even 60 million for western Russia personally.

I'd say subtract 7 million just to account for the Siberian population and stick with an even 60 million for western Russia personally.

wow, then I will have a popluation of 60 million at the most in West Russia.

don't complain, that's pretty hefty, Siberia's gulags were mostly settled during stalin's time, the earlier Tsars just had masses of dissidents to imprison, like Bakunin

What exactly are you including in western russia? only the westernmost two regions? or the western half?

I have the northern Western Russia, so I think I have a poplaution of 30-40 million. I also have Thailand as a colony, but Thailand only had about 5 million people in 1895.

You know, if you were willing to sacrifice an ubermensch nation for a more normal one, you could grab the bottom part of western russia, then you would be essentially free to colonize siberia in due time as you saw fit, be a major european power and have a greater population in your nation than most other europeans, territorily it would be a sound idea. Not trying to push any ideals or anything on you, just a suggestion you may which to consider

You know, if you were willing to sacrifice an ubermensch nation for a more normal one, you could grab the bottom part of western russia, then you would be essentially free to colonize siberia in due time as you saw fit, be a major european power and have a greater population in your nation than most other europeans, territorily it would be a sound idea. Not trying to push any ideals or anything on you, just a suggestion you may which to consider


Thats a good idea, but I could aways annexed the bottom half or something.:D



Anyway, I still gotta think of a name for my homeland, what is your country's name?

I control Bolivia, Chile, Peru and Argentina, with a colony in angola, so I thought a fitting name would be "Nova Bolívaria" I know we don't have to keep a themeof region, but I couldn't resist, it's a great name of my "invent" (not an original thought, but it is my own invention). Taken like Bolivia's, from Simon Bolivar.

Anyways I was under the impression that annexed territory would be disloyal and you wouldn't get homeland benefits and it won't be so easy to annex, their population is about.. well.. yours >_> But hey, a russian country vs. what is essentially itself? Gimme some popcorn for that one, it'd be interesting indeed! ((I wonder the whole "brutal winter" concept to russia applies to this? :p))

anyways I'm really hoping someone with the authority to approve me will, I do so want to start posting threads about trade and what have you

what is your homeland?

I think the other half of russia might be friendly since we are all russian. Anyway, my country's name is going to be called Ressia. And the winter might not work on my army since all the russians are used to winter.

Homeland is bolivia, chile, peru, and argentina I decided I wanted a more balanced nation so I didn' go for a tiny nation justto have 5 points to spend everywhere. Nope, I have my hundred 116 million homeland population and I'm proud! =P I may not start off so well, but I have good potential, and to me, thats more important than starting off incredibly mighty.

also, you could probably annex Svalbard and Franz josef without any resistance, unless candistan or skibeern have something to say about that

You do have the gold in the Andes! Anyway, you want to ally or something?

and silver in the andes, and the fertile plains of argentina, peruvian and bolivian timber and cocoa, and control of the only way from the east coast of americato the west, I didn't just pick random land :D And Im already hoping I might get an alliance with Shakal, If my claim is accepted, then I'll trade angolan diamonds to him in exchange for something (probably guns).

Not sure how we could trade though, I'd be willing to, not sure what we'd trade even. Truth be told my ships can't quite reach your empire until you have seaports someplace that isn't the arctic or blockaded by counties

and silver in the andes, and the fertile plains of argentina, peruvian and bolivian timber and cocoa, and control of the only way from the east coast of americato the west, I didn't just pick random land :D And Im already hoping I might get an alliance with Shakal, If my claim is accepted, then I'll trade angolan diamonds to him in exchange for something (probably guns).

Not sure how we could trade though, I'd be willing to, not sure what we'd trade even. Truth be told my ships can't quite reach your empire until you have seaports someplace that isn't the arctic or blockaded by counties


Ship your stuff that you want to trade to UK or something, My ships will meet you there.

sounds good, what do you want to trade?

Russia would like to trade your Diamonds for my guns and cannons.

we already have a similar agreement with Shakal, and we can only mine the veins so much, perhaps there is a crop you would prefer? Coca products are quite popular, and some scientists say that a hyper-refined form can be smoked like tobacco or injected with some form of needle to make a wonder-cure! and it is said to give men the strength to go on without needing to eat, it gives more energy than any amount of coffee. What say you about this crop? or perhaps our rubber-gum?

okay, we can trade guns for Coca, maybe even a ironclad as a gift to your nation.

It is accepted then! Raw Coca will be sent to the agreed location of trade

Coca uses:

Medical:

Used as an anaesthetic to alleviate the pain of rheumatism, wounds and sores, broken bones, sore eyes, childbirth, and during trephining operations on the skull. Because cocaine constricts blood vessels, the action of coca also served to oppose bleeding, and coca seeds were used for nosebleeds. Indigenous use of coca was also reported as a treatment for malaria, ulcers, asthma, to improve digestion, to guard against bowel laxity, as an aphrodisiac, and credited with improving longevity.

Industrial:
Can be used as a flavoring in beverages, to add a stimulating effect to any beverage like strong coffee. Also used in some cosmetics (for later time period use)

Food: coca can be added to many foods!

Other: Oh, and if you refine it,you get cocaine, believed to be a wonder drug for it's stimulating effects, Sigmund Freud spoke very highly of refined coca, cocaine, claiming he felt like he had the strength of ten men. Supply it to your army for a long battle, see what happens! It's a wonder drug! a cure-all! yay coca!


Edit: still looking to have my claim verified. And I need to sleep for the night.

okay, goodnight we will trade rifles and cannons for the coca.

Id like to claim southwestern russia (Moscow) for five points, and put five points towards military, five points towards economy, and five points towards technology. Thank you.

welcome to ns! you may also wish to claim one of the three point lands around your territory, the ukraine for example would be a good supply state, you can develop good steelmills there and there's plenty of farmland to feed your army,and it would only cost you a point off each state and perhaps have that eastern russia province that border's you as a colony, leaving you with maybe 4 3 and 4, or 2 4 5 or 3 3 5, etc. There are a lot of "uber" states as is, might want to sacrifice a little quality for more quantity and have the opportunity to expand and develop more

Id like to claim southwestern russia (Moscow) for five points, and put five points towards military, five points towards economy, and five points towards technology. Thank you.

Yay! Welcome to NS too! (confeti, bright stage lights and other party stuff pop out :D) And Zhyolatska has pretty put it set for you, maybe you would want to have a bit more than what you have now. But this is coming from me which I control France which is far away from you.

Yeah, I can't commit to activity on NS/the real world. Cut me out, sorry.

Oldermarca post in Poland thread if you find time. I want to crush you faster.

I would like to claim the Chinese provinces of Shandong and Jiangsu, (basically Shanghai), with 5 pts Tech, 5pts Mil, 5pts Econ.

Please.

Id like to claim southwestern russia (Moscow) for five points, and put five points towards military, five points towards economy, and five points towards technology. Thank you.

If your claim is approved, would you want to ally with my nation in the north (The north West russia area, I control it. And welcome to Nation States.

Greal, you are inviteded to my 1900 celebration (According to the NS time its about 1900 anyway, some claim its slower due to war, others just don't think its that time yet.) and I wanted to embassy exchange, but you don't have a factbook yet.

Celebration thread in the works.......

Thank you, I gotta get off though, gotta eat lunch. I'll make the factbook tomorrow.

century party: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=538051

all countries welcome, please attend.

I thought it was only 1896? well shucks, don't want to miss the turn of the century!

my factbook is finally up http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=538087 will be adding important cities and military stats later tonight. and I thought it only 1896 too

I intend to colonize Alaska, I would like to attempt it peaciful like. If I can get someone to RP the Natives, would be much obliged...TG me please.

I intend to colonize Alaska, I would like to attempt it peaciful like. If I can get someone to RP the Natives, would be much obliged...TG me please.

From what I gather that would be a problem, since all the NPC countries are placed at 4-4-4 stats. I might be wrong, but it would be unfair for some areas to have those stats and others not.

If thats the case than that is the case. THough i think its be up to the mod Rp as the NPC to determine that on a case by case basis...since there are some areas of the world that would be more developed than others if only due to Geography and climate.

If the "alaskans" do not want to be merged into my country as equals, through diplomatic negotiation, than it can be done by the sword. Its just i think the peaceful route would be an interesting change.

If thats the case than that is the case. THough i think its be up to the mod Rp as the NPC to determine that on a case by case basis...since there are some areas of the world that would be more developed than others if only due to Geography and climate.

If the "alaskans" do not want to be merged into my country as equals, through diplomatic negotiation, than it can be done by the sword. Its just i think the peaceful route would be an interesting change.

hmm.....interesting

Sorry it took so long. Had a hell of a weekend.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13061356#post13061356

My factbook.

I'm pretty sure this is dead considering the founder, No Taxes, has yet to show himself here for about a week and a half.

I would like to claim the Chinese provinces of Shandong and Jiangsu, (basically Shanghai), with 5 pts Tech, 5pts Mil, 5pts Econ.

Please.

Just bumping it up for No Taxes....

He was on 2 days ago. Not here, but yah.

Bump.

We can't let this die!

I know I will continue posting in all the EC threads I can be involved with.

we could create another thread like this.

How would that help?

I would like to join.

5 Econ
4 Mill
5 Tech

(14 Points)

Land Claims

Poland (4)
Yemen (Colony) (2)
(6)

(20)

I would like to join.

5 Econ
4 Mill
5 Tech

(14 Points)

Land Claims

Poland (4)
Yemen (Colony) (2)
(6)

(20)

If im not mistaken, Poland has already been claimed...

How would that help?

we could update the map, or start over and then get someone to make a new threaad, and that someone has to be on every day.

Bumpage!

We should find our own little forum away from NS it is to busy here....

If you set one up I will play in it.

ja Greal, I would say we find out who is serious about this thread, keep those existing possession on the map and start anew maybe even open it up for new commers again. I would support that.

I think the NS EC is dead. I am leaving it now. I have started my own though and your all most welcome to join. It is Exactly the same as No Taxes exept its got its own forum, time passes more slowly and you must spend atleast 8 points on land so people can't just max out stats.

http://z3.invisionfree.com/EarthofCustomization