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The Glorious Russian Empire is despatching a fleet of seven frigates and two sloops, carrying roughly two hundred and fifty imperial Russian soldiers to make landfall in Hawaii. We're expecting heavy native resistance and plan to thoroughly bombard the islands with cannon fire before setting foot on land to finish off any and all native resistance.

I'll be opening a seperate thread soon.Sorry, action is a little improable due to the sheer distance and the fact that you have no means of properly resupplying them and in no way would a meer 250 troops be able to conquer all those islands.

Sorry, action is a little improable due to the sheer distance and the fact that you have no means of properly resupplying them and in no way would a meer 250 troops be able to conquer all those islands.

True, true. I had forgotten that I didn't own Siberia, I've gotten kinda used to playing Russia.

On another note, would you be interested in arranging a royal marriage between our two nations?

We can do that. I am also marrying into Ontarium's family. I can offer an Indian/Persian princess.

Sounds great. Right now Ivan V (already wed and currently en route to Tibet) and Peter I are inline to have joint rulership after the death of our current emperor. Marrying Peter I is almost a sure-fire way of producing a queen out of one of your princesses. How would you like to arrange this from here?

We can do that. I am also marrying into Ontarium's family. I can offer an Indian/Persian princess.What religion are you anyway?

We're Russian Orthodox, as far as marriages go we're willing to accept any kind of Christian, Protestant, Catholic, it's not important. As for Carloginias, we can't have a future emperor converting to Hinduism, Sunni Islam or Sh'ia Islam, it would cause instability in our empire. If you're alright marrying a Christian or if you're willing to convert one of your princesses, then that's alright.

What religion are you anyway?

Well, then this might not work.. how much influence would I have at your court if Peter (The one I am interested in having my princess marry) marries one of my princesses? She'll probaby be either Hindu or Muslim. But willing to convert

Hindu/Islam. While Christian in real-life, I feel it neccessary to roleplay the religions of rl regions. Except ofcourse Hindus and Muslims have somehow worked something out O_o


EDIT: Wasen't I supposed to recieve India/Northern India? Need to know before I can make a detailed factbook.

The Czarina (the queen) will have a fair amount of sway in the court. I'm not willing to let her undermine Peter and rule from behind the curtains, but she will be able to have a good deal of influence in internal matters and foriegn policy involving your nation.

EDIT: And on the note of your invasion of Spain (No Tax, and Alv) it is going to be difficult as Spain had one of the most modern armies around at the time. Not too mention a damn good land army defense on both sides.
That was a Spain that was getting lots of wealth from colonies to sustain its great army. This Spain has no colonies and with little outside wealth coming in would be hard-pressed to maintain a decent army.

Wasen't I supposed to recieve India/Northern India? Need to know before I can make a detailed factbook.
Edit: I think most people think that having Northern India too would just give you too much territory and way too many people.

OK 1/8 of a square kilometer is around 400 square feet. . . not enough for the traiding zone. I will give you the full raiding zone and basically double it.
each hundred people is an quarter of the zone. So when I expand it, you will now know how large it is.

OK 1/8 of a square kilometer is around 400 square feet. . . not enough for the traiding zone. I will give you the full raiding zone and basically double it.
each hundred people is an quarter of the zone. So when I expand it, you will now know how large it is.
1/8 of a square kilometer is around 160,000 square feet and you already said the trading zone was 2 square kilometers. Trust me it is plenty big enough, roughly a 1/10th the size of Manhattan.

1/8 of a square kilometer is around 160,000 square feet and you already said the trading zone was 2 square kilometers. Trust me it is plenty big enough, roughly a 1/10th the size of Manhattan.

sorry. . . i am keeping it at 1.

bad at math. . . that was my dur moment

Do we have an agreement Carloginias?

Edit: I think most people think that having Northern India too would just give you too much territory and way too many people.

I maintain no colonies though. There are also several reasons why I think I should get N. India or all of it.

1. Even during this time India's population wasen't easy to sustain.
2. My empire is contiguous.. I asked for large chunk of land for the purpose of my not having colonies in the new world, meaning that I coulden't come and undermine any sort of naval strength in one fell stroke.
3. I am in the East.. it will be difficult for me to hit Western homelands
4. I don't support the slave trade so we could make a fun RP out of that
5. I have withdrawn from several RPs to maintain a good amount of time for this RP.

Overall, it is Scand's decision of course.

And yes we do, Anti.

Great, Peter I is currently residing in Moscow at the Imperial Palace. Who will he be marrying? What religion is she? Will she be converting? And where will the wedding take place?

EDIT: OOC: Scandinavian, on the main map, on the first page, it doesn't acknowledge my colonies in Morrocco. On page 15 Shakal gave an accurate depiction of my colonies' borders. Could you fix that please?

Whats he doing in Africa, lol?

Peter the I will be marryin Roxxane Ultyrne (Yeah, I am creative right?)
She is currently Hindu
She will be converting
And can we do it in Delhi or Tehran?

Woah, I go to work and miss all the action. O_o

Oye, Taxes, you mind if I get involved in this war? not for land-grabs but for the sake of rp?

I said he was in Moscow... where he still is. How about meeting in Tehran in two months, that should give Roxxane time to learn the customs of Russian Orthodox. After the wedding, with your permission, we will return to Moscow. The future tsar cannot be living abroad.

Woah, I go to work and miss all the action. O_o

Oye, Taxes, you mind if I get involved in this war? not for land-grabs but for the sake of rp?
Sure it would make sense since you are marrying into the Portuguese house.

EDIT: OOC: Scandinavian, on the main map, on the first page, it doesn't acknowledge my colonies in Morrocco. On page 15 Shakal gave an accurate depiction of my colonies' borders. Could you fix that please?I will fix it in the next map update, though depending on how I feel about I will most likely be extending a bit south if that is alright with you?

Extending what a bit south? Morrocco? Your homeland?

I said he was in Moscow... where he still is. How about meeting in Tehran in two months, that should give Roxxane time to learn the customs of Russian Orthodox. After the wedding, with your permission, we will return to Moscow. The future tsar cannot be living abroad.

Cool with me.

I maintain no colonies though. There are also several reasons why I think I should get N. India or all of it.

1. Even during this time India's population wasen't easy to sustain.
2. My empire is contiguous.. I asked for large chunk of land for the purpose of my not having colonies in the new world, meaning that I coulden't come and undermine any sort of naval strength in one fell stroke.
3. I am in the East.. it will be difficult for me to hit Western homelands
4. I don't support the slave trade so we could make a fun RP out of that
5. I have withdrawn from several RPs to maintain a good amount of time for this RP.

Overall, it is Scand's decision of course.

And yes we do, Anti.To comrpomise due to my calculations of the population of India I was wondering if I alotted you northern India up to a little south of Delhi sounds good to you?

To comrpomise due to my calculations of the population of India I was wondering if I alotted you northern India up to a little south of Delhi sounds good to you?

Sure. What is the population of that zone?

Sure. What is the population of that zone?About eighteen to twenty one million I would say,

Alright. As you can probably guess, I will be exanding in India.. do you have any clue what the population of India is on the Gangetic plain? (It is currently the most dense part of RL india today)

Wait Scandinavians, when you said you might be expanding south earlier, where did you mean?

Wait Scandinavians, when you said you might be expanding south earlier, where did you mean?Poland and parts of Belarus.

Alright. As you can probably guess, I will be exanding in India.. do you have any clue what the population of India is on the Gangetic plain? (It is currently the most dense part of RL india today)To put it flatly the overal population of India at the time was proably 160 million and I would estimate about a quarter in the area you have and as for the Gangetic plan I would between a third to a quarter.

Poland and parts of Belarus.

Funny you should mention that, my prince is sitting outside your palace right this moment waiting to discuss a combined invasion of those exact regions, among other issues. I requested Belarus be added to my empire when I started the game but no one took note of it I guess. If we launched a combined invasion, we could subdue the Poles and Belarussians much faster and with fewer casualities. You could have all of Poland if I could have Belarus (which we can define as the region in between your Lithuania and the blue colored Ukraine teritories to the south, and which extends as for west as that river on the map). Sound good?

Do you mind if I join in on the fun too?

I'd like that bit of Poland still left over as well as Victoria Island in N.A. and the area around Seattle.

Acceptable?
Seeing you talking about invading Poland, I thought I remembered someone wanting it and this guy's claim earlier today seems to have been ignored.

is it too late to join?

is everything grey unclaimed? how do you figure out how much land you get?

is it too late to join?

is everything grey unclaimed? how do you figure out how much land you get?
Yes although I wouldn't suggest claiming Spain, Turkey or Syria as they are being invaded. For how much land you get just claim something somewhat similar in size to the other claims and if it is reasonable it will probably be accepted.

Can I claim Korea as my home base and then the western coast of the United States as territory?

And for the homeland of Korea, mind if I steal the area beyond the Korean peninsula? Like a little land south towards China, and north towards Russia?

The Glorious Russian Empire will be leading a cavalry invasion across the Urals into Siberia. This attack will be carried out by our distinguished General Dmetri Malovich. It is intended to bring civilization to the native peoples of Siberia. We do not wish to rule all of Siberia -- yet --, we are instead only planning to invade a little ways into the frigid, barren landscape. I'll be opening a second thread shortly.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12974472#post12974472

A link to my thread on invading Siberia. Scandinavians, if you find any logistical errors in this invasion as well feel free to point um out.

Alright, Scand can you help me with my population?

Iraq-
Iran-
Afghanistan-
Pakistan-
Northern India- 21,000,000 (May as well maximize what I can)

I will throw up a factbook right now.. just not my entire population.

Ont, you have a TG.

Seeing you talking about invading Poland, I thought I remembered someone wanting it and this guy's claim earlier today seems to have been ignored.



Yes, it seems to have. Scandinavians, I will ask again. Is that ok for right now?

If at all possible, I'd like to claim some area and join the RP.

My claims would be, the area of California, Nevada, Oregon, Washington for American Territory.

In Asia, I would like to claim Korea, both north and south.

Thank you for the consideration.

Ssipsonia....that is actually quite funny.

I claimed almost the exact same things on the last page hahaha. Honestly, like north and south Korea and the western coast of America.

Thats really funny.

If you really want it, I guess I can be like the Aztec Empire or some Indian tribe. That wouldn't be too bad, but my first choice would be what is already claimed.

I thought that claim looked familiar.

Croatia, do you want Poland AND Belarus, or just Poland?

Alright, Scand can you help me with my population?

Iraq-
Iran-
Afghanistan-
Pakistan-
Northern India- 21,000,000 (May as well maximize what I can)

I will throw up a factbook right now.. just not my entire population.Iraq: 6,100,000
Iran: 9,500,000
Afghanistan: 2,400,000
Pakistan: 8,200,000
Northern India: 21,000,000

Scand did you get my post about my prince being outside your palace? I'm not trying to rush you or be rude, I just wanted to make sure it posted because for the strangest reason I keep having trouble opening your factbook page.

ok i might have Mongolia and some of eastern Russia as The Tartar Hordes

Yes, it seems to have. Scandinavians, I will ask again. Is that ok for right now?Sure, except you cannot have anything along the Pacfic coast.

Scandinvans, is my claim to much asking for some of the Pacific as my colony?

If it is so, then I rescind my original one and I will let Ss get it.

Although, I will ask for a small area of central South-America which will be one of the empires that has yet to be captured by colonialization.

If accepted, i'd like to be known as The Mazdagar Empire.

Guys, I got some major nine-hour morning shift today, so I'm probably not going to be active at all for a day or two (long week, need much sleep).

Sorry for any trouble.

sign me up as mongolia and part of Russia as The Tartar Horde please.

sign me up as mongolia and part of Russia as The Tartar Horde please.

Just to let you know, I'm sort of invading Siberia right now.

Scand, Carloginias, No Taxes, C-B, New Brittania, Ontarium, and anyone else who is really active on this thread, please take a look at his: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12977598#post12977598

It's an 1860 world I made. I'm sorry to sort of advertise on your thread Scand, I just thought you guys might be interested. Take a look.

ill be more western than that. dortof bordering on Russia(RP nation)

ill be more western than that. dortof bordering on Russia(RP nation)

West of Russia? You mean Poland? If so, goodluck, if you scroll back a few pages about four different people are claiming that region as their new home.

no west of Siberia bordering(east) on what someone has claimed as their country -Russia

I concede my claim.


(Busy with other threads. Sorry for the hassle.)

If at all possible, I'd like to claim some area and join the RP.

My claims would be, the area of California, Nevada, Oregon, Washington for American Territory.

In Asia, I would like to claim Korea, both north and south.

Thank you for the consideration.Sorry your claim goes to far inland in the colony areas, in that you will not be able to control those areas well.

no west of Siberia bordering(east) on what someone has claimed as their country -RussiaClaim approved:

New Map: http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6bunxwylo9.png

You are the steel color.

if you haven't noticed or if you are new, please post here

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12966710

Scan, could you put my invasion of Kazahkstan/Siberia under the military section in the intro.

EDIT: Here's the link for you: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12974472#post12974472

ooc: sorry to be so slow to have my factbook. I've kind of been fighting in Nova Pictivia lately. I'll try to get up in a few days.

ooc: sorry to be so slow to have my factbook. I've kind of been fighting in Nova Pictivia lately. I'll try to get up in a few days.

TFEI, can you post in my thread or are you too buisy?

well, it would appear I've got a few days off from the Utopian Crusades b/c the main enemy is going to be gone for several days so, yes I will post in you thread.

But later. I don't have time right now. I'll be back on in a few hours.

I forgot to give this to you on Friday, and I don't usually log on to NS on weekends. Here is my factbook


HERE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535888)

Carloginias, wedding time?

Carloginias, wedding time?

Yup. You want to make the thread? I am doing research right now.

i was wondering wether it was too late to join.
can i join?please???

i was wondering wether it was too late to join.
can i join?please???You can join.

I am about to open some gold and diamond mines in my area of South Africa so I am about to use a massive amount of slave labor to power so I looking how many slaves do you think will take to power the mines?

I am about to open some gold and diamond mines in my area of South Africa so I am about to use a massive amount of slave labor to power so I looking how many slaves do you think will take to power the mines?

In my opinion that would depend of the terrain in wich you're mining( mining in a mountainside is easier than mining in a flat terrain because you dont have to mine in a directly vertical direction as you have to do in a flater terrain and wether if he terrain has a lot of vegetation wich could harden the task) and how big you would want to build the mine.
I think a couple of thousands should be enough anyway.

In my opinion that would depend of the terrain in wich you're mining( mining in a mountainside is easier than mining in a flat terrain because you dont have to mine in a directly vertical direction as you have to do in a flater terrain and wether if he terrain has a lot of vegetation wich could harden the task) and how big you would want to build the mine.
I think a couple of thousands should be enough anyway.Thanks, but to ask what area do you wish to claim?

For the map check the front page.

I am about to open some gold and diamond mines in my area of South Africa so I am about to use a massive amount of slave labor to power so I looking how many slaves do you think will take to power the mines?

Depends
1. If it is on a plain, then it will take considerable effort just to get the diamonds above ground level.
2. If it is in a mountainside, then it will be easier to access the mines but more difficult to actually transport them. You would also be at the mercy of the elements.

A couple of thousand is realistic but expect quite a few casualties to either the heat of the plains or weather conditions of mountains

...Just my humble opinion :)...

Depends
1. If it is on a plain, then it will take considerable effort just to get the diamonds above ground level.
2. If it is in a mountainside, then it will be easier to access the mines but more difficult to actually transport them. You would also be at the mercy of the elements.

A couple of thousand is realistic but expect quite a few casualties to either the heat of the plains or weather conditions of mountains

...Just my humble opinion :)...Considering I was just going to simply send 42,000 slaves to the mine for gold and diamonds that will work, though they might be similiar to death camps.

I'de like Malta im shure that it wasn't claimed, i don`t know if the Baleric Islands have been claimed, Elba, Asinara, the Egates isles, Eolienes isles, Cyprus and if posible a small part of lebanon.(Elba, Asinara, the Egates isles, Eolienes isles are small islands in the mediterranean sea).

I'de like Malta im shure that it wasn't claimed, i don`t know if the Baleric Islands have been claimed, Elba, Asinara, the Egates isles, Eolienes isles, Cyprus and if posible a small part of lebanon.(Elba, Asinara, the Egates isles, Eolienes isles are small islands in the mediterranean sea).

dude, that's awesome, and if you are accepted, go to the "to befin foreign business" thread and RP there

I'de like Malta im shure that it wasn't claimed, i don`t know if the Baleric Islands have been claimed, Elba, Asinara, the Egates isles, Eolienes isles, Cyprus and if posible a small part of lebanon.(Elba, Asinara, the Egates isles, Eolienes isles are small islands in the mediterranean sea).Hate to tell you Shakal claimed all those islands, and also Lebanon.

Here is the map:
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6bunxwylo9.png

dude, that's awesome, and if you are accepted, go to the "to befin foreign business" thread and RP thereMan you have an agenda.:p

Scandinavians; Try chinese slaves. their proven to be superior and you can soon mass-buy or trade for weapons.
if you send some modern weapons or cannons or flatbottomed cold water river boats(i thought you might have some of these.;) for russian expansion:D) it will greatly increase the rate of slaves and we will be able to supply you with strong chinese and siberian alaves much faster.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12988194#post12988194
coming soon: Political, Military

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12988194#post12988194
coming soon: Political, MilitaryAdded.

military: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536379

http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=placesmapnorthamericatk7.jpg

Can I claim that is that to much? If so just tell me this is my first time RPing. My claims in the yellow.

http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=placesmapnorthamericatk7.jpg

Can I claim that is that to much? If so just tell me this is my first time RPing. My claims in the yellow.

Hey Mussleburgh, it you who wanted to join the 1860 RP right? If it was I think we may have just opened up some space. We moved to a new thread and one person dropped out and I have a feeling that within the next day or two we will have had at least one more person leave. So check back in the next few days and we might be able to give you a spot if you still want it. Sorry for the confusion.

Oh right brill I will.

Hey Mussleburgh, it you who wanted to join the 1860 RP right? If it was I think we may have just opened up some space. We moved to a new thread and one person dropped out and I have a feeling that within the next day or two we will have had at least one more person leave. So check back in the next few days and we might be able to give you a spot if you still want it. Sorry for the confusion.Please, do not advertise as you are stealing my members.

Trade: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12993895#post12993895

also my militarys on the last page i dunno if you saw that.

Can I still claim here?

Phear my awsomely terrible character development. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12998498#post12998498)

Can I still claim here?Yes, and also do you want the same claim or another?

Hey, his claims cool with me, I planned on expanding my American coastal claims shortly, now this gives me something to work with other than just Natives. Could make for some good rp.

Errrrr if I claim the same amount will I have to go to war with someone? This is my first Earth and I pretty much don't want to be going to war as I am a terrible RPer.

Trade: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12993895#post12993895

also my militarys on the last page i dunno if you saw that.Added.

Errrrr if I claim the same amount will I have to go to war with someone? This is my first Earth and I pretty much don't want to be going to war as I am a terrible RPer.That is unlikely due to most of the people here are at least reasonable rpers.

Goddamn. I think I'm finally done with all this shit.

Anything happen while I was gone? Anyone get invaded/taken over/assassinated/exploited?

btw, i stuffed up the title for the gun trade.
it should say open to 1650 only
its a great deal...come on people...lots of gold...

Goddamn. I think I'm finally done with all this shit.

Anything happen while I was gone? Anyone get invaded/taken over/assassinated/exploited?A couple marriages that is it really.

Seriously? Wow. I'm in much better shape that I thought I'd be.

Seriously? Wow. I'm in much better shape that I thought I'd be.
Good, good though you may be a target of slaving expeditions/:p