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Toopoxia
28-07-2007, 14:53
Despite it being my RP, I appear to have lost all control over the situation, both IC and OOC.
Maldorians
28-07-2007, 15:30
Despite it being my RP, I appear to have lost all control over the situation, both IC and OOC.

The NPE was fine when they were dogpiling us and now we start to caught up and then it is an automatic godmode....:P
Gataway
28-07-2007, 17:00
Not exactly dogpiling when you declare war on an entire alliance...since in the thread it says "attn Wandy CA NPE"....so by default all the nations in the NPE can send whatever they want....anyways im rather bored with the whole rp....seeing what happens i might withdraw...i have other more personal IC things I need to take care of...
The PeoplesFreedom
28-07-2007, 17:46
I find that hilarious. You guys would have no chance at all. At any rate, we are discussing an alliance between the NPE and CA anyway.
Vetaka
28-07-2007, 17:51
This is getting ridculous, I have an IC Post ready and saved in a word pad. Now is this RP actually going to get RP'd?

V
The PeoplesFreedom
28-07-2007, 17:54
I'm just the messenger. Blackhelm said he was too busy last night to discuss it. If you want to continue the RP you can. Although I don't know why you would want to waste your time when an alliance is probaly going to be confirmed. I apologize for all the flip-flopping and delays. I want to rp, as well, believe it or not.
The PeoplesFreedom
28-07-2007, 18:15
Ja.
Gataway
28-07-2007, 18:16
an alliance with the CA.....
Toopoxia
28-07-2007, 19:57
I find that hilarious. You guys would have no chance at all. At any rate, we are discussing an alliance between the NPE and CA anyway.

Wait? Are you serious!?

That'd be soooo cool! Like the two most evil alliances in II, we'd be Unstoppable!
The PeoplesFreedom
28-07-2007, 20:03
We don't consider us that evil =P

But we are discussing it.
Akimonad
28-07-2007, 20:31
We don't consider us that evil =P

But we are discussing it.

So, why isn't it in a forum thread? It would make a good conference RP.
1010102
28-07-2007, 20:36
I find that hilarious. You guys would have no chance at all. At any rate, we are discussing an alliance between the NPE and CA anyway.

what?
The PeoplesFreedom
28-07-2007, 21:17
Because its private negotions with Blackhelm, myself, and Wanderjar. Don't ask me why, Wandy wants it done that way.
Deserted Territories
29-07-2007, 03:11
Well now I suppose teaming up would give us power we could never even dream of now, but there are only so many little guys to team up on. What if we run out of playthings and get bored? :)
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 03:12
We have targets in mind...
Leafanistan
29-07-2007, 03:15
Just to say the reason I've been gone is that I've been doing an intense job search and have finally got a job.

It is at a hospital, mostly manual labor, but it pays good and I get exercise.

I currently have no opposition to an NPE-CA alliance. If that means we can both rampage around II while the Sovereign League and Bizzaro Sovereign League take pot shots at each other.

Of course this means that the NPE might start getting a few goodies from the CA's less visible allies.
Urcea
29-07-2007, 05:29
I support a CA-NPE alliance. Personally I'm willing to finally become friends, despite me being a wanker.

All joking aside, I'm for it.
Emperor Nero
29-07-2007, 05:30
I find that hilarious. You guys would have no chance at all. At any rate, we are discussing an alliance between the NPE and CA anyway.

You are not doing a very good job of selling me on this alliance. I say we fight on.
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 05:48
I'm not trying to sell it to you, thats Black's job.
Emperor Nero
29-07-2007, 06:08
CA has surived wars with better alliances than yours. Why should we be your ally if you are gonna be disrespectful towards us?
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 06:08
Er... I am not being disrespectful, and you haven't survived alliances large or better than ours. Like I said, its up to your guys' alliance and Black to discuss it. Honestly, myself and Wanderjar see no point in continuing a war between two similar alliances.
The World Soviet Party
29-07-2007, 06:11
I find that hilarious. You guys would have no chance at all. At any rate, we are discussing an alliance between the NPE and CA anyway.

What the hell?

Wanderjar and the CA?

Wow, that's certainly... surprising, to say the least.
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 06:15
That's the plan. He's come over to my side of the equation.
Central Prestonia
29-07-2007, 06:22
Sorry to butt in, but if you guys did this, you'd more than likely reshape the entire power structure in NS. I mean, here we have two large, old and powerful alliances merging into one massive entity. Hell, I don't think even AMF himself would stand alone against what you could become. From a neutral standpoint, I think you should do it. Please don't screw with UFAN once you merge though, I like my alliance the way it is: not destroyed/in a world war.
Kampfers
29-07-2007, 06:31
Sorry to butt in, but if you guys did this, you'd more than likely reshape the entire power structure in NS. I mean, here we have two large, old and powerful alliances merging into one massive entity. Hell, I don't think even AMF himself would stand alone against what you could become. From a neutral standpoint, I think you should do it. Please don't screw with UFAN once you merge though, I like my alliance the way it is: not destroyed/in a world war.

dont worry I'm doing my best to keep that from happening to UFAN
Central Prestonia
29-07-2007, 06:33
On a similar note, what are the entry requirements for NPE? I've always thought Germany was pretty cool, and I must say the Prussian Empire kicked ass in it's heyday.
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 06:50
There really isn't any. Wandy and I left it open. We have a lot of members, not all are in the actual region. Feel free to join.
Central Prestonia
29-07-2007, 07:00
One thing though, how do you feel about socialism? That's what my government is based on, socialism/democratic socialism.
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 07:05
Honestly, its an anti-communist alliance. Unfortunately, I am the only one who pursues it. Techinally, none are allowed in. If you have a mixed system, you can come in.
Central Prestonia
29-07-2007, 07:22
Well, we're kinda on the fence. Democracy is still in place, and capitalism is allowed. But, the corporations aren't allowed to build monopolies, the right to unions is guaranteed, and minimum wage is $9.75/hr. The government enforces a "price window" for certain commodities such as fossil fuels, food products, and other necessities, ensuring that prices stay reasonable. We also have free healthcare and education, including higher education. There are private universities, but public colleges are paid for by tax dollars.
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 07:24
It sounds like a Mixed System to me. Feel free to join. My governemt won;t be too friendly Icly, but I am fine OOCly and the rest of the members don't mind commies. TG me for the pass.
Central Prestonia
29-07-2007, 07:26
I'll think about joining the region, not sure if I want to because I'm in Westwood Alliance right now and pretty happy there, but I'd like to join the alliance itself.
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 07:30
You can send a puppet as a place-filler.
Emperor Nero
29-07-2007, 13:21
Er... I am not being disrespectful, and you haven't survived alliances large or better than ours. Like I said, its up to your guys' alliance and Black to discuss it. Honestly, myself and Wanderjar see no point in continuing a war between two similar alliances.

You plainly stated that you think your alliance is so much better than ours that we don't stand a chance against you. In my book, those are fightin' words.

While there are obvious advantages to having you guys as allies, we've gotten along just fine without you for a long time now. We've fought enough wars that getting invaded is just business as usual. Teaming up with you guys could be fun, but if you want to assert that you are better than us, I'd rather fight.
Akimonad
29-07-2007, 13:54
You plainly stated that you think your alliance is so much better than ours that we don't stand a chance against you. In my book, those are fightin' words.

While there are obvious advantages to having you guys as allies, we've gotten along just fine without you for a long time now. We've fought enough wars that getting invaded is just business as usual. Teaming up with you guys could be fun, but if you want to assert that you are better than us, I'd rather fight.

It was, perhaps, in poor taste, but reconcilable nonetheless. From what I can see, CA and NPE are about equal, which is why this war is taking so long.

If we teamed up, we could basically conquer anything or anyone we wanted.
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 14:31
Blackhelm said the same thing to me about the CA. We also haven't brought in all our allies yet. At any rate, I do believe it would be better and more profitable to ally, so we will see.
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 17:50
I just read that book. Simply amazing.
Toopoxia
29-07-2007, 17:52
I can see the peace posts now.

"We were always at war with Oceana!"

:P
[NS::::]Olmedreca
29-07-2007, 17:58
Honestly, its an anti-communist alliance. Unfortunately, I am the only one who pursues it. Techinally, none are allowed in. If you have a mixed system, you can come in.

Isn't wandy little bit too red(maybe even member of GUSN?) for being one of the leaders of anti-communist alliance? :P
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 18:03
Therein lies the problem. :D
The World Soviet Party
29-07-2007, 18:04
Honestly, its an anti-communist alliance. Unfortunately, I am the only one who pursues it. Techinally, none are allowed in. If you have a mixed system, you can come in.

I digress, having dicussed the alliance's goals with Wanderjar (a communist nation, by the way), I find that calling it "anti-communist" is a mistake.
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 18:05
He changed the alliance goal's from what they were orginally set to be. Him and I tend to lead it in different directions, thus balancing it.
Kampfers
29-07-2007, 18:08
yeah thus we have a couple swing votes in here.
Maldorians
29-07-2007, 18:12
I have to agree with Akimonad. Why can't it be in the forums? It's can't be THAT secret.
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 18:14
I don't know. Blackhelm is discussing it with his allies, he said.
[NS::::]Olmedreca
29-07-2007, 18:17
Him and I tend to lead it in different directions, thus balancing it.

So NPE is communist and anti-communist at same time? Are we speaking about identity crisis? :D
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 18:20
Wanderjar and many of the members are pro-communist, while I, one of the Emperors, is staunchly anti-communist. The NPE, however, is not a communist alliance.
Gataway
29-07-2007, 18:34
and then theres me on the War Council of the NPE...basically if wandy and TPF go AFK I run the NPE...I share TPF's anti-communist views...as you should know all to well Olm... from my little fight with Zambistan...Im as anti-communist as TPF...although I no longer pursue the annihilation of communist states...I simply don't assist them...unless it will benefit me greatly in some way...and I regularly support anti-communist rebels with equipment and finances...

So while the leadership of the NPE is divided...if it comes to a vote..unless it benefits me greatly as previously stated it will most likely become a 2/1 vote against anything dealing with communism the two votes being myself and TPF...the one vote being wandy...so calling the NPE anti-communist wouldn't be too far fetched..unless I am replaced by a communist/socialist state as war council member...
The World Soviet Party
29-07-2007, 18:36
Wanderjar and many of the members are pro-communist, while I, one of the Emperors, is staunchly anti-communist. The NPE, however, is not a communist alliance.

You are right there, it's not a communist alliance, but it's not an anti-communist alliance either.
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 18:38
Technically, you are correct.
Maldorians
29-07-2007, 18:42
and then theres me on the War Council of the NPE...basically if wandy and TPF go AFK I run the NPE...I share TPF's anti-communist views...as you should know all to well Olm... from my little fight with Zambistan...Im as anti-communist as TPF...although I no longer pursue the annihilation of communist states...I simply don't assist them...unless it will benefit me greatly in some way...and I regularly support anti-communist rebels with equipment and finances...

So while the leadership of the NPE is divided...if it comes to a vote..unless it benefits me greatly as previously stated it will most likely become a 2/1 vote against anything dealing with communism the two votes being myself and TPF...the one vote being wandy...so calling the NPE anti-communist wouldn't be too far fetched..unless I am replaced by a communist/socialist state as war council member...

Then there was me as Regional Delegate...:D

It basically went:

1) Wandy and TPF
2) Gataway
3) Me
4) Some others
Gataway
29-07-2007, 18:52
I believe it now goes TPF & Wandy then me and now Binaria
Maldorians
29-07-2007, 18:56
I believe it now goes TPF & Wandy then me and now Binaria

That's why I said, "There WAS me..." ;)
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 18:56
More like Kampf.
Imperial isa
29-07-2007, 18:57
Maldorians are you not in both the CA and The NPE ?
Gataway II
29-07-2007, 18:57
but Binaria is the new delegate...I didnt know Kamp was keeping his spot...
Gataway II
29-07-2007, 18:59
Maldorians are you not in both the CA and The NPE ?

Mal got booted from the NPE....kind of ironic that we might end up allied with him again....
Imperial isa
29-07-2007, 19:03
Mal got booted from the NPE....kind of ironic that we might end up allied with him again....

indeed
Gataway II
29-07-2007, 19:06
In fact..the whole turn around from us killing each other to possibly turning into sharing drinks at the bar as buddies is ironic...
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 19:08
Well, thats what you get with Wandy's hot-hotheadedness :p
Imperial isa
29-07-2007, 19:12
it think i better make more type-240 blast plasma warheads as it getting unsafe around here :p
Gataway II
29-07-2007, 19:12
I always saw me and you as the warmongers TPF lol...I'm just a bit more moderate than you..and prefer to work in secret...where you seem to like to launch off crusades lol
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 19:18
I got quite a bit of proof from Wandy. They didn't like you attitude.
Gataway II
29-07-2007, 19:19
Crusades!!!

I rest my case..
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 19:19
Crusades!!!
Gataway II
29-07-2007, 19:20
am i being censored now...my last post required moderation approval lol
Maldorians
29-07-2007, 19:21
Maldorians are you not in both the CA and The NPE ?

I got booted for 'treason'.

No proof.
No evidence.
Just corrupt witnesses...

:D
Imperial isa
29-07-2007, 19:23
am i being censored now...my last post required moderation approval lol

lol and i had a post change that i can't fix
Toopoxia
29-07-2007, 19:27
I think, if there is going to be an alliance between the CA and the NPE, we should at least have an RP about it, otherwise it makes for a horrid horrid method of storytelling.

Plus it gives an opportunity for the lesser known powers of the world to attempt to stop it before we go on a massive kill rampage, in either case we would need to RP the cease-fire over Gallia.
Kampfers
29-07-2007, 19:28
I love how this thread has shifted from a war OOC to a general OOC.

Also, Gataway, until you get 10 posts all your posts have the probability of being censored. They have a system that keys on certain words and if those words are in your post, then you have to get a mods approval first.
Toopoxia
29-07-2007, 19:31
am i being censored now...my last post required moderation approval lol

It does that to everyone with less than 10 posts dude.
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 19:31
I am up for an RP. When I talked to Blackhelm last night, he said he would discuss it with Pudu, leaf, and some other people. The Draftroom is urging him to continue with the struggle, in which case we plan to bring in even more allies.
Maldorians
29-07-2007, 19:32
I think, if there is going to be an alliance between the CA and the NPE, we should at least have an RP about it, otherwise it makes for a horrid horrid method of storytelling.

Plus it gives an opportunity for the lesser known powers of the world to attempt to stop it before we go on a massive kill rampage, in either case we would need to RP the cease-fire over Gallia.

Yea, I hate it how TPF, BC, and Wandy are making it seem so secret! :(
Kampfers
29-07-2007, 19:32
but Binaria is the new delegate...I didnt know Kamp was keeping his spot...

I am trying to. Still need to get a few more endorsements though on my puppet placeholder. If I hadn't have withdrawn from the UN, i'd still be the delegate. If I don't get my spot back, then I'll just go down to #5, where binaria was, so we'd effectively switch spots.
Maldorians
29-07-2007, 19:39
I am trying to. Still need to get a few more endorsements though on my puppet placeholder. If I hadn't have withdrawn from the UN, i'd still be the delegate. If I don't get my spot back, then I'll just go down to #5, where binaria was, so we'd effectively switch spots.

5? No, I hope you mean 4.

1=TPF and Wandy
2=Gataway
3=Binaria
4=Kampfers
5=Nub

It WAS

1=TPF and Wandy
2=Gataway
3=Me
4=Kampfers
5=Binaria
Gataway II
29-07-2007, 19:43
It does that to everyone with less than 10 posts dude.

I have more than 1000 posts...LOL didnt know it logged me in on my puppet woops lol
Gataway
29-07-2007, 19:45
ahh much better...
1010102
29-07-2007, 22:03
I am trying to. Still need to get a few more endorsements though on my puppet placeholder. If I hadn't have withdrawn from the UN, i'd still be the delegate. If I don't get my spot back, then I'll just go down to #5, where binaria was, so we'd effectively switch spots.

why did you leave the N anyway(not that I'm complaining :p)
Kampfers
29-07-2007, 22:10
why did you leave the N anyway(not that I'm complaining :p)

Cuz I want to remain the delegate when I move my nation out of the NPE. So I made my placeholder UN instead, unfortunately people havent endorsed it yet.
1010102
29-07-2007, 22:11
Cuz I want to remain the delegate when I move my nation out of the NPE. So I made my placeholder UN instead, unfortunately people havent endorsed it yet.

you should have known someone was going to rush in and take it over. I saw an oppurtunity and I took it.
The PeoplesFreedom
29-07-2007, 22:13
Not that the U.N. Delegate spot even matters. :p
Kampfers
29-07-2007, 22:19
you should have known someone was going to rush in and take it over. I saw an oppurtunity and I took it.

I will get it back yet, and reclaim my rightful position. Though I suppose I could just replace Gataway on the war council too ;)
1010102
29-07-2007, 22:26
I will get it back yet, and reclaim my rightful position. Though I suppose I could just replace Gataway on the war council too ;)

I have twice the endorsements that you have and should be getting more shortly. The delegate spot is mine. You lost it for good when you quit the UN.
Gataway
29-07-2007, 22:27
=P calm down you two jeez....
Kampfers
29-07-2007, 22:32
I have twice the endorsements that you have and should be getting more shortly. The delegate spot is mine. You lost it for good when you quit the UN.

:P

We'll see :D
1010102
29-07-2007, 22:35
:P

We'll see :D

yes we shall.
Akimonad
29-07-2007, 23:26
This hasn't been the best RP, but I think we'll have to overlook that if there's an alliance.

Agreed? No?
Gataway
29-07-2007, 23:55
oocily yes of course...ICily...my gov will probably be hesitant and distrusting of its new CA allies..if an alliance does indeed occur...at least until they are deemed worthy of the Empire's trust and respect..
Kampfers
30-07-2007, 00:10
oocily yes of course...ICily...my gov will probably be hesitant and distrusting of its new CA allies..if an alliance does indeed occur...at least until they are deemed worthy of the Empire's trust and respect..

Yeah, same. ICly my government will be fine with some of ya'll, but not with others, just like before. Like my government isn't ready to forget BC's attempted invasion of me (no matter how short), nor Urcea's colonial expansions into new nations, and my membership in UFAN makes them wary of some of you who skirt the line of poor human rights, war crimes, and the like. Other than that, I don't have issues with ya'll. And since Mal's "betrayal" was mainly OOCly, my government does not really have an issue with him.
The Silver Sky
30-07-2007, 00:35
You know, if the NPE and the CA ally, you will be effectively sealing the NPE nations fate in a way that is bad for them [CA nations fate has already been sealed, in a bad way for them also].
Toopoxia
30-07-2007, 00:54
You know, if the NPE and the CA ally, you will be effectively sealing the NPE nations fate in a way that is bad for them [CA nations fate has already been sealed, in a bad way for them also].

Sealed how?

I mean I already know we're all going to hell, but what purpose does that serve in an RP?

I'm sure we'll be safe for years to come, we have Leafy and Kraven and other kikass people
The PeoplesFreedom
30-07-2007, 02:29
War's back on gents. Sorry. Its out of my hands.
Akimonad
30-07-2007, 02:30
Sealed how?

Yeah. How?

My IC government probably won't have any difficulties, considering that they don't know who any of you are anyway...
Gataway
31-07-2007, 01:32
its just silver blowing smoke...
Akimonad
31-07-2007, 02:06
its just silver blowing smoke...

Ah. I see.
Maldorians
31-07-2007, 02:17
I will get it back yet, and reclaim my rightful position. Though I suppose I could just replace Gataway on the war council too ;)

ACTUALLY, the 'rightful' position was mine. I was it first, you took it, and then I took it back until I got booted...>_<...furfags
Maldorians
31-07-2007, 02:23
Also, now that the war is still on, I'll multi-quote all posts involving my thing to Barokin for quick reference...