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NOTICE

Hataria has had its militaries crushed previously. They always come back for more.

Nevertheless, we will hear out your negotiations. Make a proposal and we will consider it.

TO: King-Emperor Konoye
FROM: Caesar Jason Scotus Lupus

Okay, here I go.

Number One, that you call off the unjust blockade and take a large number of your warships away from the waters of Hatarian.

Number Two, none of your warships will get closer then 750km from Hatarian waters.

Number Three, your nation can ask the Hatarian people about helping them and if they don’t want your help, you leave Hataria alone.

If you want, we can met face to face with all parties and hammer out the other stuff.

Signed,
Caesar Jason Scotus Lupus
The Emperor of the United Dominion
The Lord Marshall of the Dominion Commonwealth

Aurum Domus High Command

All those who are against Questers and his allies, please help me draft a proposal so we can defuse this conflict peacefully.

Transylvania, what do you think of the terms I laid out previously?

OOC: Do you think we should make a thread to do this?

Official Message from the Dominon of Calizorinstan:


We stand by our fellow Dominion Commonwealth member's against the Hatrian blockade, and have sent the 12th Battle Group to the blockaded are, not firing at the Questrian ship's now persay, but just to keep them in check, for we know that Translvanina will come, and with the combined force we have, we are a powerful combined force. We hope you accept the terms the Commonwealth will lay out, it will spare the agony of fighting, if you don't we will be forced to do the thing we don't love to do, and go to war. Standing back, it seem's silly we are all fighting over an aid giving proposal that the Dominion Commonwealth offered to Hataria, for in effect the Questrian's are ready to starve the people, when in reality, it was their former leadership problems. We hope to not have to fight anyone, but if we do, we stand clear, we stand on the Dominion Commonwealth's posistion.

Lord Governor Jack Slovic
Dominion of Calizorinstan
United States of Calizorinstan

NOTICE

This is the direct opposite of our claims. This is unacceptable. We already offered to clear the blockade, unless "jwolf" is illiterate, we offered the free flow of aid to Hataria as long as our military presence was the only presence.

We will never accept a 180 degree turn of peace terms.

I have one word for Jwolf: Nuts.

~

In addition to what had already been deployed, the 4th Carrier (Striking) Force was set en route to the already existing battle groups travelling to Hataria to enact the blockade.

If the leaders of opposing parties are willing to meet each other, I will be than happy to offer safe ground within my own country so progress may be made.

From,

Aimless von Strangaild, Lord Governor and High Leader of Zackaroth.

"So, in all of your terms, what guarantee would we have that you would not wait until ships were well inside the zone, and then board and commandeer all supplies? You have no right to be where you are."

The guarentee of honour. If we want peace now, then why would we break the peace that we sought for just to capture a transport ship?

NOTICE

This is the direct opposite of our claims. This is unacceptable. We already offered to clear the blockade, unless "jwolf" is illiterate, we offered the free flow of aid to Hataria as long as our military presence was the only presence.

We will never accept a 180 degree turn of peace terms.

I have one word for Jwolf: Nuts.


"So, in all of your terms, what guarantee would we have that you would not wait until ships were well inside the zone, and then board and commandeer all supplies? You have no right to be where you are, nor do we trust you to leave our ships in peace to continue their aid mission."

Official Message from the United Dominion

Oh my! Those demands are the unjust one because we can’t trust your nation. Having your military the only presence means you can do whatever you want. I’m not a fool. You can’t trick me. You’re going to lead this to war.

Stop doing drugs and get a clear head, please.

Signed,
Caesar Jason Scotus Lupus
The Emperor of the United Dominion
The Lord Marshall of the Dominion Commonwealth

The guarentee of honour. If we want peace now, then why would we break the peace that we sought for just to capture a transport ship?

"The honour of a nation who commits genocide as a "lesson" to an innocent Emperor and his peoples? We do not think so."

statement from the Mistalinian Ministry of Foreign Affairs

We are willing to aid Hataria in the form of food, industrial equipment , Fuel and medical supplys. We will also send a contingent of Royal Engineers and Marines to help in the reconstruction of infrastructure and keep law and order.

however we fully support the blockade by Questers in that it prevents Hataria in receiving any sort of aid in rebuilding its military which it could use to to expand its empire. if hostility brakes out between the Questarian forces enforcing the blockade and those sending aid we will dispatch HMS Atlas and her battle group to reinforce the Questarian naval forces in the area.

Signed
Damian Foster Minister of Foreign Affairs

ORDER OF BATTLE

1st (Battle Force)
1x Hood Class Heavily Armoured Battleship [HIQMS Paralentum]
24x Valiant Class Battleship
24x Ajax Class Battleship
50x County Class Cruiser
50x Shark Class Fast Destroyer
300x Hayasuke Class Heavy Destroyer
200x Shirune Class Light Destroyer
-Attached logistics

1st Carrier (Striking) Force
HIQMS Taiho
12x Ardent Class Carrier
4x Ajax Class Battleship
12x County Class Cruiser
200x Hayasuke Class Heavy Destroyer
100x Shirune Class Light Destroyer
-Attached logistics

2nd Carrier (Striking) Force
HIQMS Shokaku
12x Ardent Class Carrier
4x Ajax Class Battleship
12x County Class Cruiser
200x Hayasuke Class Heavy Destroyer
100x Shirune Class Light Destroyer
-Attached logistics

3rd Carrier Force
10x Ardent Class Carrier
15x County Class Cruiser
100x Hayasuke Class Heavy Destroyer
100x Shirune Class Light Destroyed
-Attached logistics

4th Carrier (Striking) Force
14x Ardent Class Carrier
4x Ajax Class Battleship
12x County Class Cruiser
200x Hayasuke Class Heavy Destroyer
100x Shirune Class Light Destroyer
-Attached logistics

21st Strike Squadron
50x PROJECT 656 'Rusyuna' SSGN

22nd Strike Squadron
50x PROJECT 656 'Rusyuna' SSGN

23rd Strike Squadron
50x PROJECT 656 'Rusyuna' SSGN

11th Assault Squadron
40x Taranmyo Class SSN

12th Assault Squadron
40x Taranmyo Class SSN

The fleets where 1000km off Hatarias waters and began to mass. They where ready for any and all possibilities of war with the Dominion Commonwealth.

NOTICE

You have one last chance to accept our original ultimatum, that only a Questarian naval force be mantained within 500km, however aid will be allowed to be sent to Hataria from any nation. This is our final offer. Accept it, and aid will flow. Do not accept it, and no aid will flow, because we will implement our blockade and crush your naval forces.

You have three hours.

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Urgent Message From Aurum Domus High Command

To: Questers

I urge you to back down, threatening war will only destroy what little negotiations have happened. Please reconsider, we can have peace talks and no one will be injured. Surely you understand what devasting consequences this war will surely have.

The Whyatican fleet, departing from a naval base in the southeast of Haven, was in the process of linking up with the Questarian fleet - 109 ships, flagged by the IWNS Theseus, an Ajax class battleship. It wasn't much - the Hatarian issue was not a greivous one for the Empire, nor did the Whyaticans wish to deploy massive amounts of ships when much of the action was Questarian. However, firepower was firepower, and the addition of the Whyatican fleet may prove to make nations that would try to run the blockade think twice.

We only have one question to ask Questers. In your proposed plan you stated once Hataria has proved itself a responsible nation your ships will leave for good? Am i reading this right or is my old age getting to me?

FRom, Aimless von Strangaild.

NOTICE

Negotiations are impossible. The United Dominion (which ignores all diplomatic etiquette) 's aims have nothing in common with ours. Interestingly, many ofits allies agreed to our previous ultimatum, but of course the Dominion would prefer a conflict it is destined to lose. Unless they have a change of mind rather soon there will be conflict.

We only have one question to ask Questers. In your proposed plan you stated once Hataria has proved itself a responsible nation your ships will leave for good? Am i reading this right or is my old age getting to me?

FRom, Aimless von Strangaild.

Yes, this is part of the plan we outlined.

To: Questarian Fleet
From: Admiral James Salvatore, Imperial Ezaltian Navy

Our objectives in this blockade are nearly identical, although your fleet has garnered much more attention than my flotilla. We request permission for our fleet to merge with yours, so we can mutually defend each other in case of attack.

ORBAT:

1st Surface Fleet
1x Kraken-class Siege Dreadnought (IES Praecursoris)
10x Duke-class Heavy Battleship
11x Vendetta-class Heavy Cruiser
15x Ticonderoga-class Missile Cruiser
19x Indomitable-class Light Cruiser
22x Daring-class Missile Destroyer
28x Oliver Hazard Perry-Class ASW Frigate
10x Horizon-class AA Frigate
15x Astute-class Attack Submarine

1st Carrier Strike Group
2x Intrepid-class Supercarrier
2x Nimitz-class Aircraft Carrier
2x Duke-class Heavy Battleship
11x Horizon-class Air Defese Frigate
13x Daring-class Missile Destroyer
8x Astute-class Attack Submarine
8x Ticonderoga-class Cruiser

Official Message from the United Dominion

See people, those Questarian only want to control the Hatarians, when the United Dominion and her Commonwealth, a long with a number other nations, want to aid the nation.

These only show that the Questarians are warmongers and fit in with the older Hatarian rulers.

People of the world, I don’t want war. I want peace for Hataria.

This is what I offered to the blockade forces.

‘Number One, that you call off the unjust blockade and take a large number of your warships away from the waters of Hatarian.

Number Two, none of your warships will get closer then 750km from Hatarian waters.

Number Three, your nation can ask the Hatarian people about helping them and if they don’t want your help, you leave Hataria alone.’

It is more fair then what they demanded.

Signed,
Caesar Jason Scotus Lupus
The Emperor of the United Dominion
The Lord Marshall of the Dominion Commonwealth

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Questers and Whyatica,please do not cause this blockade.The nation of Hataria needs Aid from nations to help them rebuild.We can allways have a peace meeting about this not a blockade or a war.The people of Hataria have suffered in many wars and I do believe that war and military actions is not the answer.As countries we must talk and bring peace to all nations.

Rt.Hon.Tom Howard,Prime Minister of the United Kingdom2

Aurum Domus High Command

I sense a rift between the UFAN and the Dominion if this conflict cannot be resolved easily. Questers, your terms about your ships sounds fine. You have every right to supervise the nation while it rebuilds. Do you accept the terms I have laid out? As long as your ships depart when Hataria is stabilised I personally have no problem. I cannot speak for the entire UFAN however.

Aurum Domus High Command

I sense a rift between the UFAN and the Dominion if this conflict cannot be resolved easily. Questers, your terms about your ships sounds fine. You have every right to supervise the nation while it rebuilds. Do you accept the terms I have laid out? As long as your ships depart when Hataria is stabilised I personally have no problem. I cannot speak for the entire UFAN however.

This is the entire point.

"We fear, Prime Minister, that Questarian Government is too block-headed to see the folly of it's actions. Already, supporters of Hataria's rebuilding project call for the removal of the blockade, and the calls will only get louder."

It is a relatively common form of address from the Naestorian government that arrives at the desks of the leaders of all participating nations. Evidently a proclamation; it's been hand-delivered by couriers, and appears to be entirely hand-written as well in the finest ink. The missive is in a sealed envelope; the seal is an old-fashioned wax one, circular with the writing "ZION REPUBLIC" as its circumference, and the message inside is on faintly scented old-fashioned paper, probably prohibitively expensive. Above the message are the thirteen stars of the Naestorian flag, hand-painted in royal blue; and the flourishing signature at the bottom is its complement, while in between the handwriting might be Edwardian or Victorian in style.

It reads:

Official Statement
Office of the Academy, Foreign Affairs Department, Zion
The Republic of Naestoria
April 14, 2026

There is a common cliché that those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it. The prototype of such people are the Hatarians, and more so those who aid them. Countless times has Hataria suffered the wrath of nations more powerful than itself due to its reckless, imperialistic warmongering; as many times has it returned to rebuild itself; and as many times have the nations of the world helped it, believing sincerely that they could restore some sanity to its government. But the progress of events would be inevitable; the Hatarian rulers, rebuilt with foreign aid, would march off once more to war at the drop of a hat, seize foreign colonies, and build outrageous and prohibitively expensive weapons while their citizens starve. And again, the righteous smackdown. And again, the rebuilding....

Having watched Hataria's progress, or lack thereof, over the better part of two decades, I can only offer a word of advice to the nations of the world: Do your best to ignore the Hatarians, and perhaps they will retreat into isolation and put an end to their ceaseless cycle of death and rebirth. Blockades, war, economic aid, all will be equally ineffective; for what the Hatarian government thrives upon is attention, and absent that perhaps they will be forced to look inwards at their own people, and implement the reforms the nations of the world have tried in vain to bring them to achieve.

Septimus Hevenna
Grand Academe of Naestoria
[Seal of the Academy]

This is the entire point.

"You confuse us now. We thought the point was to punish Hataria?"

OOC: I'm confuzzled now.

1468km from Hatarian territorial waters sat the 42nd battle group lead by BBC-15 HMS Summer Snow a 28,795,500 ton command battleship.the Battle group was meant to be commanded from HMS Atlas but problems with its reactors meant it had to turn back. The Summer Snow was escorted by two Dragon class heavy battleships the HMS vengeance and HMS blood lust. the battle group consisted of

1xAurora flight II class battleship
2xDragon class heavy battleships
8xValkyrie class General Combat Battleships
18xAtlantis class super carriers
30x Artemis class heavy cruisers
50x assorted destroyers and frigates

the fleet was escorting a large convoy of transport ships filled with food and equipment to reinstate the inferstructure

Aurum Domus High Command

I sense a rift between the UFAN and the Dominion if this conflict cannot be resolved easily. Questers, your terms about your ships sounds fine. You have every right to supervise the nation while it rebuilds. Do you accept the terms I have laid out? As long as your ships depart when Hataria is stabilised I personally have no problem. I cannot speak for the entire UFAN however.

Official Message from the United Dominion

They can supervise the nation from 750km away with less warships. And they need to ask the Hatarian about helping them.

Signed,
Caesar Jason Scotus Lupus
The Emperor of the United Dominion
The Lord Marshall of the Dominion Commonwealth

[OOC: Wow, perhaps it seems half of you didn't read my ultimatum. What I want is to have my fleet the only fleet around Hataria for 500km, on the condition I'll allow any transport with any nation to move through with civilian aid (which will be checked at the ports, I don't feel like landing on ships). The point is to make sure that until Hataria is a responsible nation, I can check any action he makes.

I've already punished them enough by humiliating them five or six times. I don't ned to punish them, because I already changed my mind yesterday about the blockade - I'm allowing things through if I'm the only naval force in the area. this is because I want Hataria to be a responsible nation so I don't have to worry about it, but in the mean time, I want to be make sure any atmepts he makes to rebuild and attack me can be easily checked.

I reversed my position of allowing no food through some time ago.

What Translyvania proposes is that Hataria will automaticaly become a civilised nation if you send it aid, that I station my fleets far off from hataria and that I have no business in this. What will happen is that Hataria will build up to a militarised nation and attack me again, with you guys as his allies. I don't trust him one bit, IC or OOC.]

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I do believe that the Questarian Government is not that thick headed and need to come to terms that war and blockades is not allways the answer.We need to insure that Aid is provided to Hataria and peace relations must be built with Hataria.

Rt.Hon.Tom Howard,Prime Minister of the United Kingdom2

I do believe that the Questarian Government is not that thick headed and need to come to terms that war and blockades is not allways the answer.We need to insure that Aid is provided to Hataria and peace relations must be built with Hataria.

Rt.Hon.Tom Howard,Prime Minister of the United Kingdom2

[OOC: Come back when you know how to play Nationstates. In the meanwhile, I'm ignoring you. Your posts and your seal are irritating.]

"Perhaps Questers would be more inclined to remove the blockade, should nations sign a treaty declaring that, should Hataria do something silly like attacking Questers or another previously aggrieved nation, they would provide full military assistance? We would be fully willing to do so, provided that Questers followed the requests given by The Transyvania.

Furthermore, we have no intention of an alliance with Hataria - we wish to first see how the nation would progress. The treaty signed would determine whether diplomatic communications would be made with Hataria and it's new government."

[OOC: THERE IS NO BLOCKADE. I JUST SAID SO. Why would your government consistently insist there is a blockade when there is none? Read this post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12634357&postcount=276).]

Aurum Domus High Command

Do you also agree with an allied peacekeeping force in Hataria and a small Hatarian military for home defense? Furthermore, will you reduce the massive amount of ships in Hatarian waters to a small peackeeeping force?

Aurum Domus High Command

Do you also agree with an allied peacekeeping force in Hataria and a small Hatarian military for home defense? Furthermore, will you reduce the massive amount of ships in Hatarian waters to a small peackeeeping force?

A small peacekeeping force of perhaps 400 ships, yes.

OOC: Because we see you demanding to be the only fleet allowed in the waters as a blockade. It's not your waters, it Hataria's...

Aurum Domus High Command

400 ships sounds like a bit much....

[OOC: Wow, perhaps it seems half of you didn't read my ultimatum. What I want is to have my fleet the only fleet around Hataria for 500km, on the condition I'll allow any transport with any nation to move through with civilian aid (which will be checked at the ports, I don't feel like landing on ships). The point is to make sure that until Hataria is a responsible nation, I can check any action he makes.

I've already punished them enough by humiliating them five or six times. I don't ned to punish them, because I already changed my mind yesterday about the blockade - I'm allowing things through if I'm the only naval force in the area. this is because I want Hataria to be a responsible nation so I don't have to worry about it, but in the mean time, I want to be make sure any atmepts he makes to rebuild and attack me can be easily checked.

I reversed my position of allowing no food through some time ago.

What Translyvania proposes is that Hataria will automaticaly become a civilised nation if you send it aid, that I station my fleets far off from hataria and that I have no business in this. What will happen is that Hataria will build up to a militarised nation and attack me again, with you guys as his allies. I don't trust him one bit, IC or OOC.]

OOC: See it from my IC eyes, your nation has already done some much to the Hatarian that the Count doesn’t see having a reason for being anywhere near Hataria. Right now, Hataria’s leader can be mold into a better leader then he has had. Your blockade and terms only show your hatred of Hataria.

I told you through telegrams that if you don’t like Hat, just ignore him.

[OOC: THERE IS NO BLOCKADE. I JUST SAID SO. Why would your government consistently insist there is a blockade when there is none? Read this post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12634357&postcount=276).]

OOC: That is an OOC post. Do it ICly and everything will be okay.

[OOC: He has consistently tried to attack me in the past. I have no reason to trust, IC or OOC, that he won't do it again.]

[OOC: He has consistently tried to attack me in the past. I have no reason to trust, IC or OOC, that he won't do it again.]

OOC: And I told you I’ll deal with it ICly. Just back off. I feel that I say that to already.

OOC: That is an OOC post. Do it ICly and everything will be okay.

Question. Are you oblivious to the concept that you can see IC actions, or inactions in this case? Therefore, if Questers has said there is no blockade, you will not see a blockade so there should be no problem whatsoever.

Or maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way....?

Question. Are you oblivious to the concept that you can see IC actions, or inactions in this case? Therefore, if Questers has said there is no blockade, you will not see a blockade so there should be no problem whatsoever.

Or maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way....?

OOC: There is a bunch of warship there until he calls it off ICly.

OOC: I already suggested a peacekeeping force. If that does not satisfy you then maybe for a specified amount of time, the UFAN and Dominion Commonwealth will control Hataria with a large military presence.

Question. Are you oblivious to the concept that you can see IC actions, or inactions in this case? Therefore, if Questers has said there is no blockade, you will not see a blockade so there should be no problem whatsoever.

Or maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way....?

No, you're looking at it correctly. If I say OOC there was no blockade, then there was no blockade, so the Dominion's government shouldn't claim there was a blockade because there wasn't one (after I reversed my stance, anyway.)

Don't tell me to "just back off." It won't work. I have no reason to trust you, or Hataria, that you won't turn around and attack me. You are the only nation that is stubbornly holding up the process. Quite frankly, you should be the one that is backing off. I can crush you easily if you don't.

OOC: I already suggested a peacekeeping force. If that does not satisfy you then maybe for a specified amount of time, the UFAN and Dominion Commonwealth will control Hataria with a large military presence.

If you actually read upwards I agreed with the peacekeeping force and the size of my force being reduced.

To: Questarian Fleet
From: Admiral James Salvatore, Imperial Ezaltian Navy

Our objectives in this blockade are nearly identical, although your fleet has garnered much more attention than my flotilla. We request permission for our fleet to merge with yours, so we can mutually defend each other in case of attack.

ORBAT:

1st Surface Fleet
1x Kraken-class Siege Dreadnought (IES Praecursoris)
10x Duke-class Heavy Battleship
11x Vendetta-class Heavy Cruiser
15x Ticonderoga-class Missile Cruiser
19x Indomitable-class Light Cruiser
22x Daring-class Missile Destroyer
28x Oliver Hazard Perry-Class ASW Frigate
10x Horizon-class AA Frigate
15x Astute-class Attack Submarine

1st Carrier Strike Group
2x Intrepid-class Supercarrier
2x Nimitz-class Aircraft Carrier
2x Duke-class Heavy Battleship
11x Horizon-class Air Defese Frigate
13x Daring-class Missile Destroyer
8x Astute-class Attack Submarine
8x Ticonderoga-class Cruiser

^*cough* ;)

To: Admiral James Salvatore, Imperial Ezaltian Navy
From: Fleet Admiral Hata, Imperial Questarian Navy

Of course. Please rendezvous nearby our fleet for coordination purposes. We'd be happy to have you onboard.

No, you're looking at it correctly. If I say OOC there was no blockade, then there was no blockade, so the Dominion's government shouldn't claim there was a blockade because there wasn't one (after I reversed my stance, anyway.)

Don't tell me to "just back off." It won't work. I have no reason to trust you, or Hataria, that you won't turn around and attack me. You are the only nation that is stubbornly holding up the process. Quite frankly, you should be the one that is backing off. I can crush you easily if you don't.

OOC: Stop with the OOC threats. Just ignore Hat, if you don’t like him. You know, I have lose all respect that I have had for you.

And the blockade is what I see in the form of your warships.

[OOC: Its incredibly hypocritical to say that, you know, when you threatened me OOC first.

In fact, fuck this RP. Its clear that AMF and Doom where right. You can consider yourself on my ignore list from now on. If anyone else wants to continue this rp they can, but I don't think its possible.]

OOC:

Hataria has taken the Vetakan Oath of Loyalty as far as I am concerend if he steps a toe out of line then we respond all of us together. I accept that Hataria has wronged almost everybody he has met but I generally believe he should be given one last chance if he fucks it up he gets dogpiled. The whole situation regarding Hataria has broken down into nothing more than a OOC bitchfest as such I reckon we call it a day regarding the Incident not to solve it but to protect the very integrity of Nationstates Roleplay this is just sad.

No before anybody says it I am not trying to get out of this situation without fighting as I am about to Invaded by Clandonia but seriously back to the matter guys come on this thread has just become a place to bitchslap eachother tis somewhat sad.

Bottom line is THATS ENOUGH JESUS

OOC:

Hataria has taken the Vetakan Oath of Loyalty as far as I am concerend if he steps a toe out of line then we respond all of us together. I accept that Hataria has wronged almost everybody he has met but I generally believe he should be given one last chance if he fucks it up he gets dogpiled. The whole situation regarding Hataria has broken down into nothing more than a OOC bitchfest as such I reckon we call it a day regarding the Incident not to solve it but to protect the very integrity of Nationstates Roleplay this is just sad.

Question. Hataria's been given "one last chances" since mid 2004. How many more is he going to get?

OOC: Since Questers has backed off lets consider this RP officially over...

[OOC: Its incredibly hypocritical to say that, you know, when you threatened me OOC first.

In fact, fuck this RP. Its clear that AMF and Doom where right. You can consider yourself on my ignore list from now on. If anyone else wants to continue this rp they can, but I don't think its possible.]

OOC: I threaten ICly over OOCly. Anyways, you’re like Doom and AMF, you three only want to win. I’ll leave it at that.

[OOC: even though I wanted peace, as did the rest of your allies, and you where the one pressing for war=.=;]

OOC: Since Questers has backed off lets consider this RP officially over...

OOC: Yup, let's get to the rebuilding then. New thread? Because this one is a mess.

OOC: Can we just finalize the terms we were thinking of? Peacekeeping force and all?

OOC: I think we’ll need Hat for that and everybody really.

[OOC: even though I wanted peace, as did the rest of your allies, and you where the one pressing for war=.=;]

OOC: As the Count found your terms unfair. ICly, I couldn’t trust because of your past with Hat and that you strongly hate him in IC and OOC. You even told me that you had a strong reason to attack Hat both IC and OOC.

OOC: Started a new thread. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12634541

OOC:
Questers...you should have stayed in this.

OOC: Are you going to help us?

OOC:
Help with what? I'm not needed in the "attack" against Questers, now that he's backed off. So all I'm really doing is RP that my ships are still coming. What else could you want?

OOC: You can aid us in aiding Hat with your DC brothers. Or defend one of our own against CP. See the DC thread about it.

OOC: I threaten ICly over OOCly. Anyways, you’re like Doom and AMF, you three only want to win. I’ll leave it at that.



OOC: Might want to mind what you say, bro.

OOC: Might want to mind what you say, bro.

OOC: You know what you did to me and don’t call me bro. You went back on your word, so leave me alone, AMF. I have leave you and Gholgoth alone because they don’t want to have a thing to do with me. Please leave me alone.

OOC: You know what you did to me and don’t call me bro. You went back on your word, so leave me alone, AMF. I have leave you and Gholgoth alone because they don’t want to have a thing to do with me. Please leave me alone.



OOC: Continue to live in your distorted reality all you want, but kindly refrain from ever mentioning me or my nation ever again. Got it? Good.

OOC: You can aid us in aiding Hat with your DC brothers. Or defend one of our own against CP. See the DC thread about it.

OOC:
And what has Hat done for me or ANYONE else to deserve aid in the first place?

OOC: And what has Hat done for me or ANYONE else to deserve aid in the first place?

OOC: He is a member of the DC, now. There is one reason.

OOC: He is a member of the DC, now. There is one reason.

OOC:
I'll get back to you on that, Transylvania. You shall have my reply within the week.

OOC:
I'll get back to you on that, Transylvania. You shall have my reply within the week.

OOC: Okay. Right now, I’m trying to get everybody together and find the place for the meeting to happen.

OOC: Okay. Right now, I’m trying to get everybody together and find the place for the meeting to happen.

OOC:
Hm. Once again, I'll have to get back to you on that.

The Hurtian government kindly notes that it will not recognize Quester's economic sanctions upon Hataria, and continue trade with them as it always has in the near future.

In a non-related note:
Merchant ships were, by order of the ministry of commerce, defese, and international affairs, to be armed and given a gun crew from the Hurtian Navy resserve, in addition to re-activating resserve naval combat vessels.

Privateering licenses have yet to be issued.

The Phoenix Milita has rethought its stance and we will be air dropping a shipment of 500,000 apples (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526509) to aid the people of Hataria. We request clearance for our aircraft (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/trfgbn.png) to pass through the airspace in the hot zone . :cool:

The Hurtian government kindly notes that it will not recognize Quester's economic sanctions upon Hataria, and continue trade with them as it always has in the near future.

In a non-related note:
Merchant ships were, by order of the ministry of commerce, defese, and international affairs, to be armed and given a gun crew from the Hurtian Navy resserve, in addition to re-activating resserve naval combat vessels.

Privateering licenses have yet to be issued.

OOC: Matt backed off in a way that I didn‘t want.

The Phoenix Milita has rethought its stance and we will be air dropping a shipment of 500,000 apples (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526509) to aid the people of Hataria. We request clearance for our aircraft (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/grunt74/NS1/trfgbn.png) to pass through the airspace in the hot zone . :cool:

OOC: That is pure n00bish behavior, you know. Your bombers would be shot down by my current forces in the area. Please act like a good role-player and not a n00b.

OOC: That is pure n00bish behavior, you know. Your bombers would be shot down by my current forces in the area. Please act like a good role-play and not a n00b.

ooc: what bombers? and what bombs? look closer, they are propeller powered cargo aircraft dropping nuclear contaminated apples, which no one knows are contaminated but me.

ooc: what bombers? and what bombs? look closer, they are propeller powered cargo aircraft dropping nuclear contaminated apples, which no one knows are contaminated but me.

OOC: Your aircraft and those apples. If you’re going to be an n00b, do it somewhere else.

its perfectly legitimate

OOC: Nope, it isn’t perfectly legitimate. Go somewhere else with your anti-Hatarian, n00bish behavior because you’re not welcome here.

Either let it play out and see how it will progress, or come up with a rational, logical argument why my nation's actions are "n00bish"

OOC: How about let’s not play it out? I don’t role-play with n00bish people, you know. Anyways, those apple are ignored because they are wankish. Really, everything in that whole store is wankish. Take that crap somewhere else.

OOC: How about let’s not play it out? I don’t role-play with n00bish people, you know. Anyways, those apple are ignored because they are wankish. Really, everything in that whole store is wankish. That that crap somewhere else.

How are apples which have simply been poisoned from nuclear fallout wankish?

OOC: Wouldn't that be a heinous atrocity?

OOC: Wouldn't that be a heinous atrocity?

yes, and the point of my doing it will be revealed later...

How are apples which have simply been poisoned from nuclear fallout wankish?

OOC: Do I have to answer that? That store is a joke store. I’m not taking it seriously. Be gone with yourself.

OOC: Do I have to answer that? That store is joke store. I’m not taking it seriously. Be gone with yourself.

There are several other nations involved for both me and you to interact with and I never planned on interacting with you anyway.

There are several other nations involved for both me and you to interact with and I never planned on interacting with you anyway.

OOC: Please go and leave Hataria alone. I’m tired of dealing with you and your n00hish self. And you’re in my bad book for your past actions with me.

yes, and the point of my doing it will be revealed later...

To kill everyone and/or give them superpowers?

no, you leave me alone

OOC: That’s it, TPM. You’re not wanted here. I’m helping Hat and you’re grieving me.

OOC: That’s it, TPM. You’re not wanted here. I’m helping Hat and you’re grieving me.

You are the one who started talking hostilely to me for no reason, calling me a noob, and so on.
I have posted one IC post which is part of a well thought out and continued IC participation in this thread which I have posted to twice already. In the last IC post which sparked this discussion, I have sent a general message, primarily directed at blockading forces requesting for clearance of unarmed, propeller powered cargo aircraft to drop, what everyone thinks is wholesome healthy apples to provide humanitarian relief. I believe you are overreacting to my post.

OOC: I called you n00b because of that post. And asked you to leave because of that post later. Nobody with a clear mind will take that store as a real store. And FYI, I have asked the mods to lock this thread because it isn’t need anymore.

OOC: I called you n00b because of that post. And asked you to leave because of that post later. Nobody with a clear mind will take that store as a real store. And FYI, I have asked the mods to lock this thread because it isn’t need anymore.

This is not your thread. Or are you claiming to be a puppet of Hataria?

If it will get you to shut up I will reveal secretly and 100% oocly to you that in the end my plan will actually help Hataria more than harm it.

OOC: Nope, I’m not Hat. I don’t even know him in real life. I’m asking for it to be closed because this thread isn’t needed anymore. Now, are you going to leave?

This is not your thread. Or are you claiming to be a puppet of Hataria?

I've considered that, they may know each other?
And that his IC has a bit of OOC motive.

+1 to Hataria' credability as an RPer
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How is the thread not needed?
Has Hataria rebuilt himself already in spite of all the OOC BS on this thread?

Or is this thread being scuffed for various reasons as Hataria starts the RP over from an earlier IC timeframe?

(Note, didn't see Tran's post when I wrote this)

OOC: Nope, I’m not Hat. I don’t even know him in real life. I’m asking for it to be closed because this thread isn’t needed anymore. Now, are you going to leave?


Again, this isn't your thread, you can't ask me to leave.
You can ask to have it locked, which you did, but since you didn't start the thread, you don't have 100% control over it, and while its true both you and I are filling it up with off-topic OOC garbage, you started it, and I am simply responding to you.

How is the thread not needed?

OOC: I started another thread because this one is full of OOC nonsense. This is the link: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12634541

Hataria has not even posted on that one yet.

This thread is still active, and my last IC post is the second response my government made to Hataria's call for aid.

The Second Empire of Hataria is asking for help from The Nations of The World, Our Nation has been Ruined by a group of Barbaric Nations who want nothing more then to Destroy all things that are against their evil ways. We request Economic Aid and Builders to rebuild our Nation and Military Generals to help us Rebuild our Military.

Signed Emperor Barbarossa II of The Second Empire of Hataria

OOC: I've telegrammed him the link and he’ll post in when he has time. This thread hasn’t been active for the last few pages. I started the other one for those whom want to aid Hat.

TPM, your idea is dumb because food is generally tested before it's eaten.

That and radioactive apples would show it rather quickly by rotting faster than usual.

Even assuming they managed to kill a few people, an autopsy would quickly show apple pieces in their stomachs, and from there it would lead back to people who knew the ones who died, who could describe when and where they got the apples, which would lead a finger pointing right back to you.

Unless you care to try to argue that no one will know whos' planes dropped the apples, despite Hataria's airspace being watched by dozens of different nations right now to prevent screwery on Hataria's part (or screwery by the people who dislike Hataria)?

TPM, your idea is dumb because food is generally tested before it's eaten.

That and radioactive apples would show it rather quickly by rotting faster than usual.

Even assuming they managed to kill a few people, an autopsy would quickly show apple pieces in their stomachs, and from there it would lead back to people who knew the ones who died, who could describe when and where they got the apples, which would lead a finger pointing right back to you.

Actually irradiated food usually lasts for quite a bit before going rotten because the microbes have been killed first so there's nothing to break it down.

OOC: I'm glad I stayed out of this. Yeesh!

OOC: TPM, Please stop trying to pick fights.

Locked at thread owner's request.

~ Tsar the Mod