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I prefer the title to the newspaper, Origin you know it is right convert :) Tell me when you get to one of my planets. Taking bets now one Friar vs a go'ald fleet. :)

This one :)

i gtg go i will be on in one hour.

You know.... ST lost in a battle against stargate. Stargate ships can move across the galaxy in a matter of days not years. If you are a ST nation they ca go right past your border defences and straight to the core worlds. Hit one than hit another your fleets can't respond. ST warfare is linear unlike SG which can take planet anywhere in the galaxy. I hope you consider this. (well the borg might manage)


now see Iwant the borg to find one of my ships (I think I will lose) also We need some asgard so that I can beat their unbendable backs.

You know.... ST lost in a battle against stargate. Stargate ships can move across the galaxy in a matter of days not years. If you are a ST nation they ca go right past your border defences and straight to the core worlds. Hit one than hit another your fleets can't respond. ST warfare is linear unlike SG which can take planet anywhere in the galaxy. I hope you consider this. (well the borg might manage)


now see Iwant the borg to find one of my ships (I think I will lose) also We need some asgard so that I can beat their unbendable backs.

I didn't know this was a war thread, of who can beat up who. I thought this was a what will happen if two universes mix game. Oh well I was wrong. Hince why I have yet to attack anyone, or kill anyone (well without bringing them back).

But for your viewing enjoyment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyV6WHTfuQQ\

or if your in a more serious mood:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv-M8dsVDZc&mode=related&search=

no there will be war.... obviously some (like the ori, replicator, borg etc) will be imperalistic and not want peace (except for the ori supposedly))

no there will be war.... obviously some (like the ori, replicator, borg etc) will be imperalistic and not want peace (except for the ori supposedly))

Oh the Ori strive for universal peace and once everyone converts or dies, there will be peace. My IC comments are pure propaganda :) OOC you all know the truth :)

One thing about star trek though, they always lose in the begining, but in the end they win (After heavy losses). As much as I love stargate, I do not discount Star Trek yet.

There were ancient replicators :) Also the Ori once they came into the milkyway, and read the minds of the inhabitants (as Adria does frequently), they could get the memories of those that lived through the normal replicators. How often has Adria read Daniel Jackson mind? Samantha Carter? It is believable.

Not to mention it really is a minor detail. It is not like I told him how to beat them or anything.

I am also I got the timeline mixed up I will correct it.

sure, she might know of the fromer replicators, but not that they exist...(still that is a minor detail, and not very important...though it might have been interesting otherwise)

the Ancient Reps where made in Peg. the Ori dont even know about the Ancients and Peg...they had formerly even thought that the Alterans died out in Milky

if all else fails... in one episode of voyager there was a coaxial warp drive (look it up in memor apha) it could detroy anything in a radius of 1,000,000,000km (or 2,000,000,000km diameter) by compressing it into mothingness.... make a weapon version of this and you have a god moddy weapon ((I have a system destroying version in my FT main))
ST is very adapible.... and they can warp strafe. Sg isn't so bendable... but the replicators/ borg can copy anything the feds come up with

My appologies in a dely on repling :) I just posted

nice Propoganda from the Ori. its sure as hell going to be interesting when we met the borg...and I now have 7 Borgified Hataks to spruce up and decorate.

My appologies in a dely on repling :) I just posted

nice Propoganda from the Ori. its sure as hell going to be interesting when we met the borg...and I now have 7 Borgified Hataks to spruce up and decorate.

Oh I figure I will make the Queen an offer she can not refuse. :) Actually I look forward to it, but after I finish up the federation story line, and wipe out the Jaffa fleet heading to a planet with a Prior :)

Oh I figure I will make the Queen an offer she can not refuse. :) Actually I look forward to it, but after I finish up the federation story line, and wipe out the Jaffa fleet heading to a planet with a Prior :)

Sounds like fun :) but don't overdo the Prior thing; I'm not sure if they can take down an entire fleet...have to be careful the line between "ooooh cool" and godmod is thin with things like that.

Sounds like fun :) but don't overdo the Prior thing; I'm not sure if they can take down an entire fleet...have to be careful the line between "ooooh cool" and godmod is thin with things like that.

I will, actually the Prior will never be able to take out a fleet of ships. I just like talking smack in OOC, and being much more serious and creative IC. OOC is for joking around and having fun after all :) I will use nothing that has not been in the show, so do not worry.

I will, actually the Prior will never be able to take out a fleet of ships. I just like talking smack in OOC, and being much more serious and creative IC. OOC is for joking around and having fun after all :) I will use nothing that has not been in the show, so do not worry.

Indeed :)

Oh; the OOC Specs for my Borgified Ha'Taks

Borg Ha'Tak
Width: 600 Meters
Length: 600 meters
Height: 250 meters (at highest point)
Crew: 10,000 Borg
Power:
Borg Enhanced Naquadar Reactors
Borg Power Cores
Engines:
Borg Enhanced Hat'ak Gravimetric Progression Drive
Borg Enhanced Gou'uld Hyperdrive / Transwarp Drive
Embarked Craft:
None - Destroyed during Assimilation
Armour:
Regenerative Ablative Borg armour
Standard Gou'uld Armour beneath.
Weapons:
12 Heavy Borg Enhanced Staff Cannons (they now shoot Green bolts 3x stronger)
15 Light Duel-Barrelled Borg Enhanced Staff Cannons (Point Defence)
8 Borg Torpedo Launchers
9 Borg Cutting Beams
10 Borg Plasma Beam Weapons (Borg Phasers)
Defences
Borg Enhanced Gou'uld Shields (Now Adaptive, 5 x stronger, and Regenerate)
Standard Borg Regeneration Matrix linked into most systems.
Other Systems
Borg Forcefield Technology
Borg Transport Inhibitors
Borg Transporters

that sounds like a mean vessel, buit dont worry i will have a comeback.

that sounds like a mean vessel, buit dont worry i will have a comeback.

Of Course :) and I expect you to; thus why the borg will always strive to enhance themselves; to stay ahead of the game we have to keep assimulating. humans, Gou'uld, Jaffa, Asgard whatever they create and they investigate; borg only take whats threre and enhance; its the borgs bigest flaw.

Nice Try at taking a Borg Host :) if there were a little less drones around you might succeed sometime in the future.

lol, i assure yuo i will.

Posted.

asgard technology ship verses borg enhanced hatack.... who would win ((especially wince I have the same adaptive power))

I have redesigned the Hercules Class Dreadnought to agree with Animarnia's suggestions except for the Borg Sensors. I decided to keep them for two reasons ...
1). Voyager had them, so they are canon.
2). They are more powerful then Federation Sensors.

This is as far as I intend to go on the redesign.


USS Enterprise / NCC-71701

Length: 1035 meters
Width: 375 Meters
Height: 132 meters (at highest point)
Decks: 36
Crew: 150 Officers / 1,000 Crew / 1,000 Space Marines

Space Marine Gear:

Personal Shield - Federation version of the borg drone shields
Armored Anti Grav Vest - Strong lite weight armor w/ anti grav unit
Jet Boots - Like the ones Spock used to catch Kirk when he fell off the mountain he was climbing.
Type-2 phaser; sixteen settings, ranging from mild stun to disintegration.

Level one: lowest setting, Light Stun, capable of stunning most base humanoids for approximately five minutes. According to Starfleet regulations all phasers must be stored at this setting. Possesses enough force to break large urns.
Level seven: Capable of vaporizing noranium carbide alloy.
Level ten: Kill setting, capable of killing a biological organism.
Level sixteen: Capable of vaporizing rock to widen an opening in a lava tube partially blocked by rubble, or blowing large holes in walls.

Type-IIIb Phaser Rifle: Sometimes referred to as the assault rifles w/ the blunt triangular barrel, features holographic targeting; a real-world hunting sight that provides holographic crosshairs, utilises plasma acceleration to provide a powerful bolt of energy similar to that fired by pulse phaser cannons on the Defiant-class starship. The beam can be configured to transport Borg nanoprobes, and appear as silvery-gold energy pulses when fired.

Bat'leth: For close hand to hand / melee Combat

Platonian Serum ( Original Star Trek / Episode: Plato's Stepchildren ) Recreates Platonian like powers in a matter of hrs.
Scalosian Water and Serum ( Original Star Trek / Episode: Wink of an Eye ) The water causes anyone who drinks it to be immediately hyperaccelerated ( moves to fast to be seen / sounds like an insect ); The Serum returns the user to normal, both serums developed by Dr. Leonard McCoy during the Enterprise's five yr. mission.


Transporters:

Section 31 Transporters


Borg Sensors: Range;
High Resolution: 28 Light Years
Medium Resolution: 84 Light Years

Power:

Borg Enhanced Dual M/ARA Warp Core Reactors

Engines:

Borg Enhanced Federation Impulse
Borg Enhanced Federation Quantum Slipstream Drive
with Four Quantum Slipstream Nacelles.

Shuttle Craft:

1 Sovereign Class Captains Yacht
6 Federation Scoutships
22 Armed Delta Flyers
22 Armed Argo Shuttles w/ all wheel drive ground vehicles, and rear mounted pulse phaser cannon.

Armaments:

Multi-Vector Assault
30 Rapid fire Quantum Torpedo Launchers ( with 400 rounds ) Each quantum torpedo launcher is capable of firing four rounds per second,
12 x Type XII5 phaser arrays, total output 170,000 TeraWatts
4 x Class I rapid fire phaser pulse cannons, total output 170,000 TeraWatts
4 x Type 4 burst fire photon torpedo ( with 360 rounds ) Each is capable of firing twelve round bursts
4 Transphasic Torpedo Launchers ( with 400 rounds )
12 Tricobalt Devices

Defences:

Heavy Duranium/Tritanium Double hull plus 20 cm Ablative armour.
High level Structural Integrity Field
Borg Enhanced Metaphasic Regenerative Shield System: Metaphasic shielding is a technology invented by Dr. Reyga, a Ferengi scientist, in 2369. It is capable of withstanding the pressure and energy of a star's corona. The technology was installed on the Shuttlecraft Justman, but Reyga was murdered by Takaran scientist Jo'Bril shortly before the shields were proven. Subsequently, Dr. Beverly Crusher successfully demonstrated the shield's effectiveness by piloting the Justman into the corona of the star Veytan. (TNG: "Suspicions")
Dual Phased Cloaking Devices: a device which not only rendered a starship invisible, but also allowed it to pass through solid matter unimpeded. (TNG: "The Pegasus")
Unimatrix shield: The unimatrix shield is a type of shielding developed by Lieutenant Tuvok of the USS Voyager in 2375, capable of withstanding extremes of temperature and pressure. It was first tested on the multispatial probe, and later implemented on the Delta Flyer. (VOY: "Extreme Risk")
Temporal shields: Temporal shields are a technology that protects against weapons utilizing aspects of temporal science. Temporal shields also protect a vessel against changes in the timeline. Seven of Nine and Commander Tuvok designed them to protect Voyager from the Krenims chroniton torpedoes. (VOY: "Year of Hell", "Year of Hell, Part II")

The Hercules Class Dreadnought was designed as a second generation prototype for multi vector assault technology, as an outgrowth of the Sovereign, Prometheus & Defiant class projects. In designing this ship, Starfleet equipped it with all the latest technology tested with other classes including weapons, shields, and engines. The class also includes a new multi-vector assault design, where the ship is capable of separating into three components that can be coordinated to attack a single threat or act independently to fight multiple enemies. The Hercules Class is also the fastest ship in the fleet, it's Quantum Slipstream engines are capable of reaching speeds equal to Borg Trans Warp Conduits. As the Hercules Class joins the Prometheus class in full scale production they should both be considered an outstanding threats.


( Redesign complete )

Armaments:
Multi-Vector Assault
1 Cascading Biogenic Pulse Generator= You know biogenic weapons are illegal
4 Transphasic Torpedo Launchers= This violates the temporal prime Directive
4 Genesis Torpedo Launchers= I do believe that this is forbidden technology
6 Varon-T Disruptor Cannons= Banned weapon
6 Xindi Planet Killers Phase Cannons= Planet killer weapons are illegal
6 Borg Cutting Beams= How did you get borg tech? Its given on a need to know basis in the collective no neither would know exactly how to make the weapons and defences
6 Borg Plasma Beam Emitters: ditto
6 Borg Enhanced Tractor Beams: ditto
1 Tantulas Field Generator= no idea what this is

Defences:

Borg Enhanced Dual Phased Cloaking Devices= Illegial in the Federation
Borg Enhanced Holo Shield Generator= Holo as in holographic wouldn't do anything.... tis light
Shuttle Craft:

200 Armed Delta Flyers= Too many the shuttle bays can carry prehaps a max of 50 total
200 Armed Argo Shuttles w/ ground vehicle= ditto

Armaments:
Multi-Vector Assault
1 Cascading Biogenic Pulse Generator= You know biogenic weapons are illegal
4 Transphasic Torpedo Launchers= This violates the temporal prime Directive
4 Genesis Torpedo Launchers= I do believe that this is forbidden technology
6 Varon-T Disruptor Cannons= Banned weapon
6 Xindi Planet Killers Phase Cannons= Planet killer weapons are illegal
6 Borg Cutting Beams= How did you get borg tech? Its given on a need to know basis in the collective no neither would know exactly how to make the weapons and defences
6 Borg Plasma Beam Emitters: ditto
6 Borg Enhanced Tractor Beams: ditto
1 Tantulas Field Generator= no idea what this is

Defences:

Borg Enhanced Dual Phased Cloaking Devices= Illegial in the Federation
Borg Enhanced Holo Shield Generator= Holo as in holographic wouldn't do anything.... tis light
Shuttle Craft:

200 Armed Delta Flyers= Too many the shuttle bays can carry prehaps a max of 50 total
200 Armed Argo Shuttles w/ ground vehicle= ditto

You might want to reread my post, because I posted the answer to how I have borg technology. Futher I am the Federation, if I deem a threat warrants using illegal weapons in order to save my peoples I can do that.
The collective is a hive mind, all borg know of there technolgy, seven of nine has proved that many times on ST Voyager. Voyager has now returned to Earth with Seven Of Nine. I didn't say a word about all your upgrades so why are you?

not even Picard and 7 of 9 could work together to make that much Borg Enhancment...or you might think the Enterprise and Voyager would have a bit more Borg stuff...some things would be possible though...

as for the Xindi weapon...for some reason i dont think they would have that...

and for its size and its Shuttle count...well thats quite plainly to much...

a Delta Flyer is 21m long, 12.2 wide, and 5.3 high...even right next eachother with no room between there isn't enough room...the size lsited for your ship doesn't include the vast amounts of space that is not at the greatest extent.(which would be the listed number for size...though i am also assuming this is shapped like most Fed ships) not to mention living room...and engions

a Sov class is 685 by 240 by 88...and has maybe 20 shuttles overall..most smaller then a DF...

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on a different note of my own i always considered Transphasic Torpedos to be only, or most effective on Borg(being lesser then Quantum torpedoes against other races). which is my final word, because i havn't seen otherwise and it explains why in the later movies that they arn't using Transphasic Trops...(this is my view over others such as the idea that "they havn't implemented them yet" or dont know how to make them)


EDIT: i was wondering if anyone would think its too much to RP more races then one(though certainly keeping to the main one more then a second)

if this opinion reaches high enough favor, i would like to trake a claim on the Wraith...

You know I am still using staight up cannon for my ships.... no upgrades (well canon+ assumptions like asgard weaponry) Also Illegal means illegal unless you wish to have more than one war on your hands (like say romulans...) The federation is a "democracy" meaning you can't just unban weapons even if you do RP the federation.

I consider transphase torpedoes to be banned by the temporal prime directive (though NP has an equally plausible explination)


by the way: replciators regenerate, and they can adapt or else that disrutpor weapon would have been invincible

not even Picard and 7 of 9 could work together to make that much Borg Enhancment...or you might think the Enterprise and Voyager would have a bit more Borg stuff...some things would be possible though...

as for the Xindi weapon...for some reason i dont think they would have that...

and for its size and its Shuttle count...well thats quite plainly to much...

a Delta Flyer is 21m long, 12.2 wide, and 5.3 high...even right next eachother with no room between there isn't enough room...the size lsited for your ship doesn't include the vast amounts of space that is not at the greatest extent.(which would be the listed number for size...though i am also assuming this is shapped like most Fed ships) not to mention living room...and engions

a Sov class is 685 by 240 by 88...and has maybe 20 shuttles overall..most smaller then a DF...

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on a different note of my own i always considered Transphasic Torpedos to be only, or most effective on Borg(being lesser then Quantum torpedoes against other races). which is my final word, because i havn't seen otherwise and it explains why in the later movies that they arn't using Transphasic Trops...(this is my view over others such as the idea that "they havn't implemented them yet" or dont know how to make them)


EDIT: i was wondering if anyone would think its too much to RP more races then one(though certainly keeping to the main one more then a second)

if this opinion reaches high enough favor, i would like to trake a claim on the Wraith...

Transphasic torpedoes are high-yield torpedoes that are (theoretically) designed specifically to fight the Borg; they are first used by Admiral Janeway (brought back from the future) in a Federation shuttle-craft and again later after being installed onboard Voyager. They are among the most powerful weapons used in the Star Trek universe, this is evident in that as little as one torpedo is enough to destroy an entire Borg Cube (which in other cases have taken a severe amount of punishment from standard Federation weapons).

Now about the number of shuttles on board. Do you remember the trick that allowed Montgomery Scott to live into the 24th century. He stored himself inside the transporter buffer for 75 yrs. until the Enterprise-D found and released him. If you can do that with a living being then I see no reason you could do the same with equipment -ie-shuttles.

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TNG/episode/68566.html




Under the command of Captain Janeway Voyager used the tech of many races to get home including Borg Technology. Picard as Lucutus was very close to the borg queen so he would have had an opportunity to learn more then enough to build these enhancements. Further the Xindi become members of the federation at some point after their attack on Earth with the weapon in question because they want our protection from the aliens building the sphere's in the expanse. So I would have access to their technology. Further everything I have added to the new Enterprise is canon. Are you afraid I might end up defeating you or what?

canon.... but illegal you are violating one of the main directives of the Federation, the temporal prime directive. You also have ethics to deal with.... if it wasn't for that I wouldn't be complaining much

also close but not with access.... picard doesn't remember everything too neither does 7 of 9

canon.... but illegal you are violating one of the main directives of the Federation, the temporal prime directive. You also have ethics to deal with.... if it wasn't for that I wouldn't be complaining much


I have multiple enemies that are superior to most of the technology my older ships possess, yet you speak to me of ethics. You must be kidding right?
Should I allow my entire civilzation to be overthrown, enslaved, assimilated or out right killed in order to keep my ethics and legalities in good standing ... Please! Do the Borg, or the Ori worry about if they are breaking local laws ... no. Finally how do you know what Picard is capable of knowing? If you want to know the truth I all ready down sized the new dreadnought, originally I had designed it to be 2,740 meters, so give me a break.

there is always the fact that the federation doesn't have transwarp. Picard is not a scientist

besides ethics is a big thing in the federation here is an example though it may not qualify:
Prime Directive:
"This dierective stands above the saftey of federation starships and members of starfleet."

there is always the fact that the federation doesn't have transwarp. Picard is not a scientist

besides ethics is a big thing in the federation here is an example though it may not qualify:
Prime Directive:
"This dierective stands above the saftey of federation starships and members of starfleet."


Picard is not a scientist no, but as an Admiral he commands many types of scientist and engineers. The Prime Directive does not stand above the safety of Federation Citizens. Besides how does a alien know about the Prime Directive? Must I remind you of the differance between player knowledge and character knowledge?

(OOC: Orbital Bombardment, nice strategy. BTW I know a prior can't reach into space, but there are other tactics :) )

A nine year old girl was sitting on a hill, watching the lovely sunset, and the small village below. All was well, the breeze was warm, as the sun began to set.

She picked up a flower and smelled it, and thought to herself, the world is right. Moments later where the little girl sat, a flash of light, then nothingness but a huge crater in the ground.


Hey! That was my sister! Now you really are in trouble! says Commander Charles "Trip" Tucker III :p

Here is the specs of the newest Hercules Class Dreadnought ...

USS Enterprise / NCC-1701F

Length: 1035 meters
Width: 375 Meters
Height: 132 meters (at highest point)
Decks: 36
Crew: 150 Officers / 1,000 Crew / 1,000 Space Marines

Transporters:

Borg Transport Inhibitors - Don't Need; Feds already can up up Dampening feilds
Borg Transporters - No point; Good as Fed Transporters Borg just have more
Standard Federation Transporters
Subspace Transporter - - Bad idea and unhealty
Gary Seven Transporters - err...? Dunno what that is

Why not just go with Section 31 Transporters and leave it at that?

Borg Sensors: Range; - Just go with Borg Enhanced Fed sensors
Max Range - 84 LY
High Res Max Range - 14LY

Power:

Dual Borg Enhanced M/ARA Warp Core Reactors - Seems fine

Engines:

Borg Enhanced Federation Impulse - Seems fine
Borg Enhanced Federation Quantum Slipstream Drive - Seems fine
with Four Quantum Slipstream Nacelles.(Fine)
Borg Enhanced ( Experimental ) Coaxial Warp Drive with two Nacelles. - Why? not to mention you now have 6 Nacelles sticking out?

Normal Cruising Speed: Warp 7
Maximum Cruising Speed: Warp 9
Maximum Speed: Warp 9.99 - Why? your using Slipstream who needs warp

Shuttle Craft:

200 Armed Delta Flyers
200 Armed Argo Shuttles w/ ground vehicle
if its not a specific carrier, cut these down' Battleships are LIGHT on aircraft/embarked craft

Armaments:
Multi-Vector Assault
1 Cascading Biogenic Pulse Generator - Bad
4 Transphasic Torpedo Launchers - Good -
4 Gravimetric Torpedo Launchers - like Mass Missiles?
4 Genesis Torpedo Launchers - WMD
6 Varon-T Disruptor Cannons - Illegal
6 Xindi Planet Killers Phase Cannons - WMD Swap it out for Type XII phasers
6 Borg Cutting Beams - Swap out for Type X Phasers
6 Borg Plasma Beam Emitters - Swap out for Type IX Phasers
6 Borg Enhanced Tractor Beams - Why?
12 Tricobalt Devices - Fine
1 Tantulas Field Generator - Explain?

Defences:

Borg Enhanced Dual Phased Cloaking Devices - Why the borg enhancments? Borgs do use cloaks yet but ok
Borg Enhanced Holo Shield Generator - Not needed -
Borg Enhanced Metaphasic Regenerative Shield System One system
Borg Force field Technology - Ok
Borg Enhanced Ablative Hull Armor - Starfleet already have Armour; I'd go with the funky Voyager Armor instead



Sorry I picked apart your ship; I left nots on surgestions for changes to make your ship better I hope. I personaly have no issue the the Transphasic Torps or the funky Armour or the cool warp drive or the cloak though like I noted the borg don't use cloaks so I don't know how much "enhancment" there could be. and I made recomendations for your weapons swapping out with various Federation high end Phasers; I'd also recomend adding in some standard Photon/Quantum Torp launchers instead of the WMD's

no fear of being defeated by the Fed...after all we are not fighting, and my faction is not agressive...and quite able to handle such things

i simply do not find your ship realistic with the way your faction works...they dont know about the Ori or Replicators, so they would not make such a thing, they do know about the Borg...but do not need such a ship like that for fighting them...

like i said Transphasic Torps will acts as they are theoretically made for

other then that i find Animarnia's alterations much more acceptable for a fed ship...

i dont think the borg can even cloak, i have never seen them do it and they must have taken a romulan vesle that could but they dont use it.

i dont think the borg can even cloak, i have never seen them do it and they must have taken a romulan vesle that could but they dont use it.

i think they dont use it mostly because they dont need to hide...

and in one of the Enterprise-Ds first(or the first) encouters with the Romulans they discovered several stations at the neutral zone gone...IIRC thats credited to the Borg...

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no fear of being defeated by the Fed...after all we are not fighting, and my faction is not agressive...and quite able to handle such things

Then you have no reason to be concerned

i simply do not find your ship realistic with the way your faction works...they dont know about the Ori or Replicators, so they would not make such a thing, they do know about the Borg...but do not need such a ship like that for fighting them...

We know about the Borg and the Replicators, as for the Ori, Sisko just
doesn't trust them ICly. He can't really put his finger on it yet, maybe it's because he hasn't been able to connect with the prophets since the Ori
showed up.


like i said Transphasic Torps will acts as they are theoretically made for other then that i find Animarnia's alterations much more acceptable for a fed ship...

We need more powerful weapons, they will only be used in self defense.

Sorry I picked apart your ship; I left nots on surgestions for changes to make your ship better I hope. I personaly have no issue the the Transphasic Torps or the funky Armour or the cool warp drive or the cloak though like I noted the borg don't use cloaks so I don't know how much "enhancment" there could be. and I made recomendations for your weapons swapping out with various Federation high end Phasers; I'd also recomend adding in some standard Photon/Quantum Torp launchers instead of the WMD's


The Borg don't need a cloak because ship damage is irrealivant isn't it? The Photon Torpedoes didn't do the Intrepid much good did they? Though I might add Quantum Torp launchers. But I might still need the other weapons if the ____ really hits the fan. It's always better to negotiate from a position of strength.

The Borg don't need a cloak because ship damage is irrealivant isn't it? The Photon Torpedoes didn't do the Intrepid much good did they? Though I might add Quantum Torp launchers. But I might still need the other weapons if the ____ really hits the fan. It's always better to negotiate from a position of strength.

True but when have the Federation ever endorsed the use of or maintainance of WMD's? its just not there style; if they wanted to glass a planet they could just use conventional means. one problem of the federation is there ships arn't built as warsships; instead of WMD's picture your dreadnaught with the ability to turn and firea full broadside worth of photon torpedoes at an enemy ships. 20/30 launchers at a time using the phaser for Point defence.

I can see the Feds incorperating Asgard and Atlantian tech in the future; heck they may even have some kind of dirived replicator tech who knows how things will turn out; the Federation is inventive I just do see them stocking there ships up with WMD and lots and lots of Borg tech; they're more likely to enchance there own. but hey :) thats just me I'm not a mod or anything

True but when have the Federation ever endorsed the use of or maintainance of WMD's? its just not there style; if they wanted to glass a planet they could just use conventional means. one problem of the federation is there ships arn't built as warsships; instead of WMD's picture your dreadnaught with the ability to turn and firea full broadside worth of photon torpedoes at an enemy ships. 20/30 launchers at a time using the phaser for Point defence.

I can see the Feds incorperating Asgard and Atlantian tech in the future; heck they may even have some kind of dirived replicator tech who knows how things will turn out; the Federation is inventive I just do see them stocking there ships up with WMD and lots and lots of Borg tech; they're more likely to enchance there own. but hey :) thats just me I'm not a mod or anything



When has the Federation ever faced multiple enemies of such power? Wolf 359 opened the federations eyes just a bit. No one said anything about " glassing a planet " as you put it. Picard has reports of multiple ships of unbelievable power from across Federation Space. You can not blame him for doing his job. If and when we do incorperate Asgard and or Atlantian tech then we may decide we no longer need our questionable weapons. Until then ....

Then you have no reason to be concerned



We know about the Borg and the Replicators, as for the Ori, Sisko just
doesn't trust them ICly. He can't really put his finger on it yet, maybe it's because he hasn't been able to connect with the prophets since the Ori
showed up.




We need more powerful weapons, they will only be used in self defense.

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i am concerned that it alters the Federation as is...i said you could have new ships...but this is basically a ship built in the event of combating the Ori and or Replicators...the ship has weapons that are banned...you left the reason for it being made out, as well as the fact that it couldn't be made for fighting the Replicators and Ori at this point because its not been long enough...and as i said they have known about the Borg but have no need for this ship(or it would have at least a similer ship...and to a further extent i said you could have ships under development...not fully ready for combat or anything...

OOC: sorry if this seems rushed, i'm watching Stargate atm...

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i am concerned that it alters the Federation as is...i said you could have new ships...but this is basically a ship built in the event of combating the Ori and or Replicators...the ship has weapons that are banned...you left the reason for it being made out, as well as the fact that it couldn't be made for fighting the Replicators and Ori at this point because its not been long enough...and as i said they have known about the Borg but have no need for this ship(or it would have at least a similer ship...and to a further extent i said you could have ships under development...not fully ready for combat or anything...

OOC: sorry if this seems rushed, i'm watching Stargate atm...

Well if you ask me the game has been stacked against the Federation from the start. As I am RPing as the leader/s of the Federation, I should be free to bend the law a bit for a good reason. Kirk used to do it all the time and he was just a starship Captain. I have stated that the weapons are for self protection only. As for the time factor I believe this thread started five days ago, it is my understanding that 1 RL day equals 1 NS yr. At least that is the formula I have always used from day one. Following that formula it has been five yrs now. That should be enough time to build a new ship I would think.

posted- I have to say i have been stacked against the worst ,Ori and Borg,

posted- I have to say i have been stacked against the worst ,Ori and Borg,

Your ships are also much more powerful then any of the older Federation ship classes. You have technology that can restore the lives of whoever you wish. The Federation has nothing like that.

my greates asset would be Anubis, maybe the ancients know of him? bye the way im developing a new kind of hatak and going to upgrade our hand device weopons(just need a priors staff)

Well if you ask me the game has been stacked against the Federation from the start. As I am RPing as the leader/s of the Federation, I should be free to bend the law a bit for a good reason. Kirk used to do it all the time and he was just a starship Captain. I have stated that the weapons are for self protection only. As for the time factor I believe this thread started five days ago, it is my understanding that 1 RL day equals 1 NS yr. At least that is the formula I have always used from day one. Following that formula it has been five yrs now. That should be enough time to build a new ship I would think.

you can bend, but not yet...mostly because the concept of 1 RL day = 1 NS year doesn't quite fit for this...

if that where the case then the Alterans would be fighting the Ori...that time base is to fast...essentialy this is still the same first few hours/days after...

"older federation" class ships but i guess the combined might of the system lords should go from conventional to gurrilla if we fail. like baal we could also infiltrate race organizations.

you can bend, but not yet...mostly because the concept of 1 RL day = 1 NS year doesn't quite fit for this...

if that where the case then the Alterans would be fighting the Ori...that time base is to fast...essentialy this is still the same first few hours/days after...


You are forcing me to except defeat when there is no need. I can not build better ships if all my shipyards are taken. I would like to know how all these aliens discovered where all the Alpha Quadrent factions bases were to begin with. I need a base from which I can plan, build and be safe ...
SG1 had that. For that matter .... where is SG1?

i dont know anyone that would ally with us, i think we need to bring in a klingon, romulan, asgard players, because i think the romulans would try to be friends with us.

i edited my last post.

i dont know anyone that would ally with us, i think we need to bring in a klingon, romulan, asgard players, because i think the romulans would try to be friends with us.


Personnally I would like this thread to be more then just a hack and slash, especially if I am the one recieving all the damage with little chance to return the favor.

oh i am making some kind of attempt at that.

borgy, im making a small counter attack on the planet Hermes.

Ok, wow, I have missed a lot it seems in the last few hours. Korm, for the record yes the Ori worry about ethics, hince why they are out to kill the evil in the universe, it is just a different set of ethics. By the way, I am not your enemy, if anything I am bending over backwards to be your friend. You should take me up on that offer :)

I will make an official IC post tomorrow as I have a lot more tequila to drink to night :)

BTW The universe has been altered, and now the federation is facing new threats. It is only I dunno human to jump the gun and grab as many weapons as it can to defend itself til it can sort out who is an ally and who is an enemy.

lol cool, still got to post on Anbuis

oh i am making some kind of attempt at that.


Ok I'll send a holographic representive, similiar to the doctor on Voyager. One programmed for command ... OK?

lol cool, still got to post on Anbuis

I know, and I plan on making it worth the wait :)

By the way, I do not see this thread as hack and slash. Am I the only one who has yet to fire a shot and kill anyone/thing?

There are more ways to defeat someone than by shooting them.

oh you made an example of my jaffa who defy origin.

holograpihci..okay

You are forcing me to except defeat when there is no need. I can not build better ships if all my shipyards are taken. I would like to know how all these aliens discovered where all the Alpha Quadrent factions bases were to begin with. I need a base from which I can plan, build and be safe ...
SG1 had that. For that matter .... where is SG1?

Its called coincidence....

and, if you feer they will be taken...put more ships there to guard them...remember the Star trek forced have numbers...and can make allies of some of the Stargate forces...(though atm is seems only the Alterans offer anything as the others would ask for to much from you...well maybe Goa'uld...) while Stargate has the firepower in most cases, but not numbers...

the SG earth is unclaimed...but would be in Earth Orbit...that could be claimed in my earlier suggestion of allowing second claims(though used to lower levels then the main claim)

I know, and I plan on making it worth the wait :)

By the way, I do not see this thread as hack and slash. Am I the only one who has yet to fire a shot and kill anyone/thing?

There are more ways to defeat someone than by shooting them.


Thats true but being defeated before you even have a chance is unexceptable.

Its called coincidence....

and, if you feer they will be taken...put more ships there to guard them...remember the Star trek forced have numbers...and can make allies of some of the Stargate forces...(though atm is seems only the Alterans offer anything as the others would ask for to much from you...well maybe Goa'uld...) while Stargate has the firepower in most cases, but not numbers...

the SG earth is unclaimed...but would be in Earth Orbit...that could be claimed in my earlier suggestion of allowing second claims(though used to lower levels then the main claim)


That is not true, I ask for nothing more than bedtime prayers :) By the way when the Ori learn of Anubis, cheating the ascended rule, please expect a ascended messanger to the Alterean ascended beings. He will only be a messanger.

anubis will do nothing short of prior powers.

Its called coincidence....

and, if you feer they will be taken...put more ships there to guard them...remember the Star trek forced have numbers...and can make allies of some of the Stargate forces...(though atm is seems only the Alterans offer anything as the others would ask for to much from you...well maybe Goa'uld...) while Stargate has the firepower in most cases, but not numbers...

the SG earth is unclaimed...but would be in Earth Orbit...that could be claimed in my earlier suggestion of allowing second claims(though used to lower levels then the main claim)

Can you play them too until we find a permenent player? I would like to open relations with them.

Thats true but being defeated before you even have a chance is unexceptable.

Oh I agree, and to be honest, I am in favor of your "enhancements". You need to survive, it is the most basic rule in human behavior. Most federation ships are full of humans. Most of the Admiralty is human. But if the OP declares something I will abide the rules. Even if he said, no the Ori weapons do nothing but turn everyone into tribbles, then I would agree. Hmm actually that might not be a bad weapon, maybe a bit goddmodish :)

Can you play them too until we find a permenent player? I would like to open relations with them.

If you wish I will also play SG-1. SInce there are a million unclaimed races, it might be fitting for each player to assume two races. Besides although I love sci-fi, I love making fun of it even more :)

That is not true, I ask for nothing more than bedtime prayers :) By the way when the Ori learn of Anubis, cheating the ascended rule, please expect a ascended messanger to the Alterean ascended beings. He will only be a messanger.

could be interesting...

Oh crap it's almost 10:30 ... I'm sorry I have to work tonight too. What time will you be on tomorrow? I really have to go ... :( ... sorry :headbang:

Ori prior still needs to talk to anubis, Anubis is aproaching him.

If you wish I will also play SG-1. SInce there are a million unclaimed races, it might be fitting for each player to assume two races. Besides although I love sci-fi, I love making fun of it even more :)

Well I suppose I could RP some of the other alpha Quadrent races.

anubis will do nothing short of prior powers.

Lol so, he still violates the non interferance rule by being in the material plane. Not like other ancients have not done that before, and not like the Ori read the letter of the law and found a loophole. Still though he is a violation :) And all i said was a messanger. Knowing SG-1 the ancients will sit on their thumbs and do nothing while anubis burns the galaxy around him, even if he used all of his power, that is until Daniel Jackson whines about it :)

surely the ancients knew he was on the material plane long ago, that chick and every ancient in the dinner knows that but have done nothing to stop him, he was going to wipe out the galaxy and the ancients would have sat back.

Ori prior still needs to talk to anubis, Anubis is aproaching him.

I have had 3 margaritas tonight, are you sure you want me to play IC right now :) Oh that reminds me time to make number 4 ;)

never mind you corrected it.

Can you play them too until we find a permenent player? I would like to open relations with them.

open relations with them first and i can...but i certainly hope someone claims them otherwise...my intrest is in the Wraith...or Asgard...

open relations with them first and i can...but i certainly hope someone claims them otherwise...my intrest is in the Wraith...or Asgard...

I will play stargate command if you like. I can play diplomat well enough. Then you can play whatever else you wish. Another suggestion would be the OP play the other unclaimed races as NPC's until they are claimed.

surely the ancients knew he was on the material plane long ago, that chick and every ancient in the dinner knows that but have done nothing to stop him, he was going to wipe out the galaxy and the ancients would have sat back.

they set him to half ascended to punish oma for helpping him...they sent him half so she could watch as he used the power he gained from his state to fight others...

they set him to half ascended to punish oma for helpping him...they sent him half so she could watch as he used the power he gained from his state to fight others...

hmm, so I was right. Sitting back doing nothing to help anyone while they burn the galaxy around him. And the Ancients are considered the good guys, and the Ori who truly want to share enlightenment, and spare everyone death, and share their power are considered the bad guys.

(Wow I am good at propaganda ;) )

Sorry guys I gotta go ... I'll be back on tomorrow when I get home .... bye for now.

your not drunk yet, you can ic a post.

I will play stargate command if you like. I can play diplomat well enough. Then you can play whatever else you wish. Another suggestion would be the OP play the other unclaimed races as NPC's until they are claimed.

i like my idea better...it seems that sometimes i cant even keep up with the Alterans...so an "accross the board" thing works a bit better for me...though even with the double claims there are some unclaimed which i can do i guess...and i would prefer you do SGC

EDIT: and i could have basically just said what you suggested, but made it clear that the double claim thing is working along side it...

your not drunk yet, you can ic a post.

never claimed I was :) ok give me a few minutes and I will post.

lol, i cant wait! watch what happens after wards(if things go as planned)

i like my idea better...it seems that sometimes i cant even keep up with the Alterans...so an "accross the board" thing works a bit better for me...though even with the double claims there are some unclaimed which i can do i guess...and i would prefer you do SGC

Ok I will play them. It will be interesting blowing myself up :) BTW do I get to use the tech from unending, or am I set to just rail guns and godmoddish nukes?

Ok I will play them. It will be interesting blowing myself up :) BTW do I get to use the tech from unending, or am I set to just rail guns and godmoddish nukes?

i'm thinking not using Unending yet...or if we do it will be limited to the one ship for now...

Forgive me for the bad post, as I said earlier I did not want to do it tonight. I do hope though that dispite misspellings, and slight lack of memory on the guy from farscape, that it will be adequate to move the story along.

very moving

I have redesigned the Hercules Class Dreadnought to agree with Animarnia's suggestions except for the Borg Sensors. I decided to keep them for two reasons ...
1). Voyager had them, so they are canon.
2). They are more powerful then Federation Sensors.

This is as far as I intend to go on the redesign.


USS Enterprise / NCC-1701F

Length: 1035 meters
Width: 375 Meters
Height: 132 meters (at highest point)
Decks: 36
Crew: 150 Officers / 1,000 Crew / 1,000 Space Marines

Space Marine Gear:

Personal Shield - Federation version of the borg drone shields
Armored Anti Grav Vest - Strong lite weight armor w/ anti grav unit
Jet Boots - Like the ones Spock used to catch Kirk when he fell off the mountain he was climbing.
Type-2 phaser; sixteen settings, ranging from mild stun to disintegration.

Level one: lowest setting, Light Stun, capable of stunning most base humanoids for approximately five minutes. According to Starfleet regulations all phasers must be stored at this setting. Possesses enough force to break large urns.
Level seven: Capable of vaporizing noranium carbide alloy.
Level ten: Kill setting, capable of killing a biological organism.
Level sixteen: Capable of vaporizing rock to widen an opening in a lava tube partially blocked by rubble, or blowing large holes in walls.

Type-IIIb Phaser Rifle: Sometimes referred to as the assault rifles w/ the blunt triangular barrel, features holographic targeting; a real-world hunting sight that provides holographic crosshairs, utilises plasma acceleration to provide a powerful bolt of energy similar to that fired by pulse phaser cannons on the Defiant-class starship. The beam can be configured to transport Borg nanoprobes, and appear as silvery-gold energy pulses when fired.

Bat'leth: For close hand to hand / melee Combat

Platonian Serum ( Original Star Trek / Episode: Plato's Stepchildren ) Recreates Platonian like powers in a matter of hrs.
Scalosian Water and Serum ( Original Star Trek / Episode: Wink of an Eye ) The water causes anyone who drinks it to be immediately hyperaccelerated ( moves to fast to be seen / sounds like an insect ); The Serum returns the user to normal, both serums developed by Dr. Leonard McCoy during the Enterprise's five yr. mission.


Transporters:

Section 31 Transporters


Borg Sensors: Range;
High Resolution: 28 Light Years
Medium Resolution: 84 Light Years

Power:

Borg Enhanced Dual M/ARA Warp Core Reactors

Engines:

Borg Enhanced Federation Impulse
Borg Enhanced Federation Quantum Slipstream Drive
with Four Quantum Slipstream Nacelles.

Shuttle Craft:

1 Sovereign Class Captains Yacht
6 Federation Scoutships
22 Armed Delta Flyers
22 Armed Argo Shuttles w/ all wheel drive ground vehicles, and rear mounted pulse phaser cannon.

Armaments:

Multi-Vector Assault
30 Rapid fire Quantum Torpedo Launchers ( with 400 rounds ) Each quantum torpedo launcher is capable of firing four rounds per second,
12 x Type XII5 phaser arrays, total output 170,000 TeraWatts
4 x Class I rapid fire phaser pulse cannons, total output 170,000 TeraWatts
4 x Type 4 burst fire photon torpedo ( with 360 rounds ) Each is capable of firing twelve round bursts
4 Transphasic Torpedo Launchers ( with 400 rounds )
12 Tricobalt Devices

Defences:

Heavy Duranium/Tritanium Double hull plus 20 cm Ablative armour.
High level Structural Integrity Field
Borg Enhanced Metaphasic Regenerative Shield System
Dual Phased Cloaking Devices
Borg Force field Technology


The Hercules Class Dreadnought was designed as a second generation prototype for multi vector assault technology, as an outgrowth of the Sovereign, Prometheus & Defiant class projects. In designing this ship, Starfleet equipped it with all the latest technology tested with other classes including weapons, shields, and engines. The class also includes a new multi-vector assault design, where the ship is capable of separating into three components that can be coordinated to attack a single threat or act independently to fight multiple enemies. The Hercules Class is also the fastest ship in the fleet, it's Quantum Slipstream engines are capable of reaching speeds equal to Borg Trans Warp Conduits. As the Hercules Class joins the Prometheus class in full scale production they should both be considered outstanding threats.


( Redesign complete )

looks good to me

looks good to me

Cool :cool:

Why not just go with Section 31 Transporters and leave it at that?

I’m not familiar with Section 31 Transporters, what makes them different from standard federation transporters?

Kormanthor, in case you missed it Aurora sent a message to the Enterprise after getting the "theis is Fed Space only" message

Kormanthor, in case you missed it Aurora sent a message to the Enterprise after getting the "theis is Fed Space only" message


Thanks I did miss it, I will look at it immediately

Get back online Ortho!!!, im going to enter the priors body with anubis.

I have some RL business to attend to this afternoon but I will return later ... bye for now.

I have redesigned the Hercules Class Dreadnought to agree with Animarnia's suggestions except for the Borg Sensors. I decided to keep them for two reasons ...
1). Voyager had them, so they are canon.
2). They are more powerful then Federation Sensors.

This is as far as I intend to go on the redesign.


USS Enterprise / NCC-1701F

Length: 1035 meters
Width: 375 Meters
Height: 132 meters (at highest point)
Decks: 36
Crew: 150 Officers / 1,000 Crew / 1,000 Space Marines

Space Marine Gear:

Personal Shield - Federation version of the borg drone shields
Armored Anti Grav Vest - Strong lite weight armor w/ anti grav unit
Jet Boots - Like the ones Spock used to catch Kirk when he fell off the mountain he was climbing.
Type-2 phaser; sixteen settings, ranging from mild stun to disintegration.

Level one: lowest setting, Light Stun, capable of stunning most base humanoids for approximately five minutes. According to Starfleet regulations all phasers must be stored at this setting. Possesses enough force to break large urns.
Level seven: Capable of vaporizing noranium carbide alloy.
Level ten: Kill setting, capable of killing a biological organism.
Level sixteen: Capable of vaporizing rock to widen an opening in a lava tube partially blocked by rubble, or blowing large holes in walls.

Type-IIIb Phaser Rifle: Sometimes referred to as the assault rifles w/ the blunt triangular barrel, features holographic targeting; a real-world hunting sight that provides holographic crosshairs, utilises plasma acceleration to provide a powerful bolt of energy similar to that fired by pulse phaser cannons on the Defiant-class starship. The beam can be configured to transport Borg nanoprobes, and appear as silvery-gold energy pulses when fired.

Bat'leth: For close hand to hand / melee Combat

Platonian Serum ( Original Star Trek / Episode: Plato's Stepchildren ) Recreates Platonian like powers in a matter of hrs.
Scalosian Water and Serum ( Original Star Trek / Episode: Wink of an Eye ) The water causes anyone who drinks it to be immediately hyperaccelerated ( moves to fast to be seen / sounds like an insect ); The Serum returns the user to normal, both serums developed by Dr. Leonard McCoy during the Enterprise's five yr. mission.


Transporters:

Section 31 Transporters


Borg Sensors: Range;
High Resolution: 28 Light Years
Medium Resolution: 84 Light Years

Power:

Borg Enhanced Dual M/ARA Warp Core Reactors

Engines:

Borg Enhanced Federation Impulse
Borg Enhanced Federation Quantum Slipstream Drive
with Four Quantum Slipstream Nacelles.

Shuttle Craft:

1 Sovereign Class Captains Yacht
6 Federation Scoutships
22 Armed Delta Flyers
22 Armed Argo Shuttles w/ all wheel drive ground vehicles, and rear mounted pulse phaser cannon.

Armaments:

Multi-Vector Assault
30 Rapid fire Quantum Torpedo Launchers ( with 400 rounds ) Each quantum torpedo launcher is capable of firing four rounds per second,
12 x Type XII5 phaser arrays, total output 170,000 TeraWatts
4 x Class I rapid fire phaser pulse cannons, total output 170,000 TeraWatts
4 x Type 4 burst fire photon torpedo ( with 360 rounds ) Each is capable of firing twelve round bursts
4 Transphasic Torpedo Launchers ( with 400 rounds )
12 Tricobalt Devices

Defences:

Heavy Duranium/Tritanium Double hull plus 20 cm Ablative armour.
High level Structural Integrity Field
Borg Enhanced Metaphasic Regenerative Shield System
Dual Phased Cloaking Devices
Borg Force field Technology


The Hercules Class Dreadnought was designed as a second generation prototype for multi vector assault technology, as an outgrowth of the Sovereign, Prometheus & Defiant class projects. In designing this ship, Starfleet equipped it with all the latest technology tested with other classes including weapons, shields, and engines. The class also includes a new multi-vector assault design, where the ship is capable of separating into three components that can be coordinated to attack a single threat or act independently to fight multiple enemies. The Hercules Class is also the fastest ship in the fleet, it's Quantum Slipstream engines are capable of reaching speeds equal to Borg Trans Warp Conduits. As the Hercules Class joins the Prometheus class in full scale production they should both be considered an outstanding threats.


( Redesign complete )


Excelent Redesign!

And for your question; Acording to DS9 they're longer range very narrow beam transporters that can reportadly beam through shields ST class Shields.

Excelent Redesign!

And for your question; Acording to DS9 they're longer range very narrow beam transporters that can reportadly beam through shields ST class Shields.


Cool ... is the any links that explains how they work?

The main idea behind this is that somehow different parts of the Stargate universe from different times suddenly merge with the Trek one

The Stargate timelines go as such:

Pegasus Galaxy during the Alteran-Wraith war
Ida Galaxy during the Asgard-Replicator war
Milky Way would have the Free Jaffa Nation, Earth somewhat before the episode “Unending” and include the Goa’uld shortly before the death of Apophis
And depending on popular opinion we can have the Ori in on this…

And Star Trek would be set during the dominion war

This is a nation and character based RP...

Claims:
Orthodox Gnosticism(atm the Ori)
Kormanthor(United Federation of Planets)
North Calaveras(Goa'uld)
Animarnia(Borg)
Nebarri_Prime(Alterans)
Firehelper(Replicators)
[NS]Corbournne(Cardassian Union)


IC thread:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12629793#post12629793


Nebarri Koramerica is Kormanthor's second country, I thought I might use it to RP some other faction in the Alpha Quadrant .... What do you think?

Korm

Nebarri Koramerica is Kormanthor's second country, I thought I might use it to RP some other faction in the Alpha Quadrant .... What do you think?

Korm


I open this for debate among everyone.

Korm

if it helps you identify the other race from the UFP or something like that then sure...otherwise you can use the one your currently using for UFP if you want...i gave the rule of RPing two factions...

sorry for not being around recently, but I have been busy since it is mother's day weekend. I will have more time to post tomorrow. Please forgive me if I am holding anything up.

if it helps you identify the other race from the UFP or something like that then sure...otherwise you can use the one your currently using for UFP if you want...i gave the rule of RPing two factions...


Ok but I think it will be easier to keep track of if I use Koramerica for another faction. I am still trying to decide what faction to RP though, but I'll make a decision soon ... Thanks!

sorry for not being around recently, but I have been busy since it is mother's day weekend. I will have more time to post tomorrow. Please forgive me if I am holding anything up.


You are forgiven ... Happy Mothers Day!

Ok but I think it will be easier to keep track of if I use Koramerica for another faction. I am still trying to decide what faction to RP though, but I'll make a decision soon ... Thanks!

i think i made a post of some kind about a Wraith Hiveship heading to the Klingon homeworld...

what happend to pandoras box?

its waiting for new posts?

Sorry about my inactivity here, the IC thread simply exploded and I never seemed to find a suitable place to enter.

Hopefully, I'll be able to keep up this time, but is it possible that I could switch my claim to Species 8472?

Corbournne;12644626']Sorry about my inactivity here, the IC thread simply exploded and I never seemed to find a suitable place to enter.

Hopefully, I'll be able to keep up this time, but is it possible that I could switch my claim to Species 8472?

i suppose...but i made a post saying Atlantis was in Cardassian space!


btw, im Nebarri_Prime...

i suppose...but i made a post saying Atlantis was in Cardassian space!


btw, im Nebarri_Prime...

Oh, haha, that's what I meant by me falling behind.

What page was it on, so I can reply to it?

page two or three? and all it said was that Atlantis was in Cardassian Space...

HELLO, is the thread dead or something, if it is it is a very bad pity, i posted to.

HELLO, is the thread dead or something, if it is it is a very bad pity, i posted to.

every thread has its slow points...i think i am stalled because Trebal is on the Al'kesh so i cant yet go to meeting Picard. while Koramerica was probably waiting for you, and Orth said he was busy...

every thread has its slow points...i think i am stalled because Trebal is on the Al'kesh so i cant yet go to meeting Picard. while Koramerica was probably waiting for you, and Orth said he was busy...


No it's not dead, I just thought you guys wanted to take the weekend off because of mothers day.

By the way if you all have the time, you are invited to check out my Newest thread .... " Fantasy World. "

Posted

Ortho I wasn't aware I had missed one of your posts, please explain the post about Sisko not talking to you.

I'm waiting for borg guy to post.... but thats not happening any time soon

Ortho I wasn't aware I had missed one of your posts, please explain the post about Sisko not talking to you.

It could have been I missed one of yours, I was not aware that SIsko had responded to adria. It was the post after she talks about sisko's family. I might have missed yours though, so I will look.

yes!!! you guys are back!

What a welcome reception :)

I was thinking about having Vger show back up to help the Federation against there enemies. After all it did take two humans as it's way to touch god. Both of these humans were also star fleet officers. What do you think?

Also I was thinking that the whale probe might show up at sometime if one of the new enemies threatened Earth. Because by threarening Earth they would be threatening the whale population that lives there.

Also I believe I would like to use Koramerica to RP the Romulans.

Vger is weird *eyeshift*

the Whale Probe would be unaware to any danger...or it would show up and screw over the Borg when they came...

Romulans, righty...i guess i could get some Wraith and Alterans doing something with them...

Vger is weird *eyeshift*

It is unusual, but it is now controlled by beings that were once star fleet officers. I will take that as a Yes.

The Whale Probe would be unaware to any danger...or it would show up and screw over the Borg when they came...

That sounds like a plan to me

Romulans, righty...i guess i could get some Wraith and Alterans doing something with them...

Well I have posted the beginnings of a storyline that involves the Federation. But I could make other posts involving the Wraith and Alterans. There is also a storyline in the new USS Titan
( Rikers first command ) paperback books, where Riker cuts a deal for the Klingons to give political asylum to the Ramons. I think that could add a certain flavor to the mix, don't you think.

It is unusual, but it is now controlled by beings that were once star fleet officers. I will take that as a Yes.



That sounds like a plan to me



Well I have posted the beginnings of a storyline that involves the Federation. But I could make other posts involving the Wraith and Alterans. There is also a storyline in the new USS Titan
( Rikers first command ) paperback books, where Riker cuts a deal for the Klingons to give political asylum to the Ramons. I think that could add a certain flavor to the mix, don't you think.

Wraith to attack the Titan then!

and i still want at least something short with the Klingons and that Hiveship...though no need for you to RP all three of them if you dont want to...

Wraith to attack the Titan then!

and i still want at least something short with the Klingons and that Hiveship...though no need for you to RP all three of them if you dont want to...


The Titan is not in Romulan Space anymore. I was talking about getting the Klingons involved more. The Titan Is in the Gum Nebula which is on the outer edge of the Milky Way and has discovered alot of differant races out there that owe them, so going after the Titan might be a mistake for the newcomers. :rolleyes:

No ones posting .... ????????

I'm waiting for you to post a minor defensive action on my attack on your farming colony

I was waiting for sisko to reply to adria, so I could have more than a one word reply :)

i could make a post with the Wraith, but Atlantis and Trebal are waiting for a reply from, Atlantis from the Cardassians, and Trebal from you Krom.

what's going on with the thread?

It is still alive, it is just at a lull. Several people need a response to continue, it seems.

o okay, i will post when i can.

I was waiting for sisko to reply to adria, so I could have more than a one word reply :)


Sisko has responded to Adria, unless this is a new post you are talking about and I never make one word replies.

I'm waiting for you to post a minor defensive action on my attack on your farming colony

I found the post, however I have a problem with it. While you are welcome to " find " places to attack please don't attempt to limit the defenses of said Federation Locale, in this case Coltar_IV in your post. Any Federation Colony will have more then light defenses. Please allow me the right to say what defenses it has, and what damage is being done by your attacks. What I will agree with is that your ship may have scanned the planet without finding all the defensive meatures. Will you agree to this?

The Titan is not in Romulan Space anymore. I was talking about getting the Klingons involved more. The Titan Is in the Gum Nebula which is on the outer edge of the Milky Way and has discovered alot of differant races out there that owe them, so going after the Titan might be a mistake for the newcomers. :rolleyes:


Nebarri I'm not saying you can't attack Riker's ship, I just wanted to make sure you knew it's true location and that Titan wouldn't be just a lone ship thats easy to pick off. Also I thought maybe we could have some posts between the Klingons and the Romulans because of the agreement made by Riker when they were in Romulan Space.

Sisko has responded to Adria, unless this is a new post you are talking about and I never make one word replies.

Lol, I never accused you of doing so :) I only said that I needed a response so I would not have to do so. :)

there has been very little activity on the thread:(

Oh I see the post, somehow I overlooked it. I will respond soon, and please forgive me for not noticing it earlier.

there has been very little activity on the thread:(


Sorry guys I work at night, so between trying to work, get sleep, and help my daughter get ready to move I haven't had as much extra time as usual. If I can come straight back tonight from my trip I will post in the earliy morning. If not it will probly be tomorrow evening because I have to drive the truck tomorrow to move my daughter in with me for a while.

Oh I see the post, somehow I overlooked it. I will respond soon, and please forgive me for not noticing it earlier.


Your forgiven .... again :p

Than ignore that part.... though Im sure it wouldhave light defences due to the fact that it is a fairly unimportant farming colony and other unimportant colonies have only had several light phaser arrays.

Nebarri I'm not saying you can't attack Riker's ship, I just wanted to make sure you knew it's true location and that Titan wouldn't be just a lone ship thats easy to pick off. Also I thought maybe we could have some posts between the Klingons and the Romulans because of the agreement made by Riker when they were in Romulan Space.

well i knew that, i have just been a bit busy...i shall see if i have time to make a post atm

and i havn't checked yet, but have you made a post with Trebal? i left it open for her to arrive whereever you want to beam her and such

as you may have noticed i did not get a post in...

shall i have the Klingons send a ship to the Romulans?

and i want to get the Wraith into that to...or maybe i could have Alteran and Wraith ships drop out of Hyperspace intending to fight a battle...

well i knew that, i have just been a bit busy...i shall see if i have time to make a post atm

and i havn't checked yet, but have you made a post with Trebal? i left it open for her to arrive whereever you want to beam her and such

Not yet I just moved my daughter and her family in with me. Thats why I haven't been on as much the last couple of days

as you may have noticed i did not get a post in...

I know

... shall i have the Klingons send a ship to the Romulans?

Yes, Riker made a deal with the Klingons to give the Remons protection from the Romulans.

... and i want to get the Wraith into that to...or maybe i could have Alteran and Wraith ships drop out of Hyperspace intending to fight a battle...

You should read the Titan series books, then you would know what Riker and his crew has faced so far.

Ortho I wasn't aware that the Ori had the ability to heal and raise the dead, all I've ever seen them do is kill for the most part. Or is it just Adria because she is an actual Ori within a physical body?

Ortho I wasn't aware that the Ori had the ability to heal and raise the dead, all I've ever seen them do is kill for the most part. Or is it just Adria because she is an actual Ori within a physical body?

In one episode Adria killed a guy Darth Vader style. Then she killed his friend, then afterwards raised the dead man back to life and threatened to torture him over and over again by killing him and bringing him back unless he told her what she wanted to know. It was the same episode where the Ori destroyed the Dakata Super weapon. The priors have also been able to bring people back to life that were killed by the prior plagues.

im going to post

In one episode Adria killed a guy Darth Vader style. Then she killed his friend, then afterwards raised the dead man back to life and threatened to torture him over and over again by killing him and bringing him back unless he told her what she wanted to know. It was the same episode where the Ori destroyed the Dakata Super weapon. The priors have also been able to bring people back to life that were killed by the prior plagues.

Yep I missed that one

im going to post


I'm assuming ( but not sure ) that DS9 is the only federation space station that has a Ori Ship near it, so I will answer your post as such.

so far yes. I have 4 ships in known fedearation space at the moment, and only one near the space station. BTW bye bye jaffa ship, can;t you leave me to try to convert the federation in peace. OH well this is what I get for trying to be peaceful and not blowing stuff up... :)

so far yes. I have 4 ships in known fedearation space at the moment, and only one near the space station. BTW bye bye jaffa ship, can;t you leave me to try to convert the federation in peace. OH well this is what I get for trying to be peaceful and not blowing stuff up... :)


I know its really going to hurt Adria's feelings to be forced to kill some jaffa. :rolleyes: :p

But Ortho I must remind you that according to NS rules you don't have the right to kill another players character even if you are playing a character who says she is a god unless they agree to it.

I know its really going to hurt Adria's feelings to be forced to kill some jaffa. :rolleyes: :p

A tear is being shed can't you tell :)

But Ortho I must remind you that according to NS rules you don't have the right to kill another players character even if you are playing a character who says she is a god unless they agree to it.

I am allowed to destroy a ship, and if I do destroy it, there are always escape pods. After all the entire SG fleet was destroyed, yet somehow, SG-1 survived in whole. Or how many times has the Enterprise, or the Defiant, or any of those run abouts been destroyed, yet the bridge crew survived? Whoever dies is up to the person rpign the damage, but if he brings a ship which is an enemy of mine into an area, I am allowed to destroy it. I really am not after killing anyone to be honest, and I would prefer more dialogue, as for me I shoot X beam at Y ship is quite boring, but it would seem that at this moment I have to destroy the ship otherwise they will try to ruin my plan and then I would have to kill the character. Besides how many characters does everyone have, and I got...1. You honestly can;t expect me not to fire on every ship with any minor god on it. If that is the case then all of my Prior's should be safe as well. I mean he has off the top of my head, Anubis, Baal, Kali, Athena, possibly Ra, Isis, Osiris, and a billion "gods". If I am restricted to not fire on them I might as well just give up since there is always "a character" in a fleet.

Also I am kind of surprised none of the minor system lords have not tried to make an alliance with the Ori, or even the Altereans. It would be a huge power grab for them. Since I have already stated that I will not play any character that I turn into a Prior, then someone like Kali or a lesser system lord, with a fleet and Prior powers would have a massive advantage against the Major system lords, but oh well. Remember even the system lords are treacherous. Even unified, they will still try to one up one another. Thousand of years of backstabbing and war can not be undone in a single day or by a single event.

I am allowed to destroy a ship, and if I do destroy it, there are always escape pods. After all the entire SG fleet was destroyed, yet somehow, SG-1 survived in whole. Or how many times has the Enterprise, or the Defiant, or any of those run abouts been destroyed, yet the bridge crew survived? Whoever dies is up to the person rpign the damage, but if he brings a ship which is an enemy of mine into an area, I am allowed to destroy it. I really am not after killing anyone to be honest, and I would prefer more dialogue, as for me I shoot X beam at Y ship is quite boring, but it would seem that at this moment I have to destroy the ship otherwise they will try to ruin my plan and then I would have to kill the character. Besides how many characters does everyone have, and I got...1. You honestly can;t expect me not to fire on every ship with any minor god on it. If that is the case then all of my Prior's should be safe as well. I mean he has off the top of my head, Anubis, Baal, Kali, Athena, possibly Ra, Isis, Osiris, and a billion "gods". If I am restricted to not fire on them I might as well just give up since there is always "a character" in a fleet.

Also I am kind of surprised none of the minor system lords have not tried to make an alliance with the Ori, or even the Altereans. It would be a huge power grab for them. Since I have already stated that I will not play any character that I turn into a Prior, then someone like Kali or a lesser system lord, with a fleet and Prior powers would have a massive advantage against the Major system lords, but oh well. Remember even the system lords are treacherous. Even unified, they will still try to one up one another. Thousand of years of backstabbing and war can not be undone in a single day or by a single event.


I'm not saying that you don't have a right to defend your characters. I was just reminding you because of NS Rules thats all. As you say ships would normally have escape pods. The fact that the Jaffa ship is near DS9 and Bajor is a good thing for anyone forced to use an escape pod. Whether or not the Bajorians want them dropping in on them is another issue all together.

I'm not saying that you don't have a right to defend your characters. I was just reminding you because of NS Rules thats all. As you say ships would normally have escape pods. The fact that the Jaffa ship is near DS9 and Bajor is a good thing for anyone forced to use an escape pod. Whether or not the Bajorians want them dropping in on them is another issue all together.

Ok :) I appreciate the reminder. I would like to add though that I do not desire to kill any of his characters. After all it is a pain to convert the dead :) However I think NC is a little busy at the moment trying to protect his nation from TPF and others at the moment, so it may be a while before he responds. (At least judging by the recent posts about that expanding base)

Hello .... Guys? Lets not give up on this thread now!

it seems like this is empty, but there is hope

I'm still here .... anyway

I am still in the thread, I just needed to wait for a few posts.

I am still in the thread, I just needed to wait for a few posts.


Are you waiting on a post from me? I have made numerous posts and also wait for answers .... thats a hint Firehelper & Nebarri_Prime just in case you didn't catch it. :rolleyes:

I think Im waiting... but as far as i know it died

I think Im waiting... but as far as i know it died

Only If we allow it to die .... I posted a answer to your farm colony post. So you could answer that if you don't mind.

posted

posted

Cool, I am in the process of writing an answer. I case you are wandering why this farming colony has better defenses then you originally thought. Its because its cover is a farming colony, it is actually a secret federation prison planet for the criminally insane. It is also a test site for new federation weapons. But this is player knowledge not character knowledge.

Cool, I am in the process of writing an answer. I case you are wandering why this farming colony has better defenses then you originally thought. Its because its cover is a farming colony, it is actually a secret federation prison planet for the criminally insane. It is also a test site for new federation weapons. But this is player knowledge not character knowledge.


Correction the answer has now been posted .... the ball is in your court Firehelper.

Firehelper I would think that transporters would have a limited range, as well as other limitations such as transporting though certain ground materials. I don't think you could transport from planets orbit to the moon. Also please remember that projectile weapons work well against replicators as SG1 has proved many times. Also where did millions of blocks come from, did you blow up the original ship? If so I assume that your help has arrived but I didn't see the post where they did. By the way I do have isokinetic & antiproton beam cannons as well as a planetary repulsor beam.

Discuss ....


Link ...

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Category:Weapons

well I never said that they directly transported through the ground.... this could mean that they transported to the ground than dug down
millions of blocks... well from the ship it blew up perhaps I wasn't clear on that
Also there are shields meaning that projectiles would first have to destroy them

these shields would be rated for gigatons or terra tons if they are on par (well they are better) with asgard shielding.... after all a single ha'tak used 250 megatons a shot and formally before Anubis even a bilisner could take three on with out suffering much damage. Now even with anubis's enhanced weapons which somehow destroyed the terraton shield in one shot, new shields have made the new weapons ineffective.

anyway
two ships.... outskirts of system
also transporters....
well to the planet is possible
to the moon would be harder though still possible as evidence by the furligns use of it to transport to the moon. Since they are all part of an alliance i assume that the asgard also had similar technology (though aperantly asgard transporters are more advaced than ancient since they are mot confined to one space)

I'm a little busy so I doubt I can edit the post to reflect these things though if i have the time and you haven't posted yet I will

well I never said that they directly transported through the ground.... this could mean that they transported to the ground than dug down
millions of blocks... well from the ship it blew up perhaps I wasn't clear on that
Also there are shields meaning that projectiles would first have to destroy them

these shields would be rated for gigatons or terra tons if they are on par (well they are better) with asgard shielding.... after all a single ha'tak used 250 megatons a shot and formally before Anubis even a bilisner could take three on with out suffering much damage. Now even with anubis's enhanced weapons which somehow destroyed the terraton shield in one shot, new shields have made the new weapons ineffective.

anyway
two ships.... outskirts of system
also transporters....
well to the planet is possible
to the moon would be harder though still possible as evidence by the furligns use of it to transport to the moon. Since they are all part of an alliance i assume that the asgard also had similar technology (though aperantly asgard transporters are more advaced than ancient since they are mot confined to one space)

I'm a little busy so I doubt I can edit the post to reflect these things though if i have the time and you haven't posted yet I will

My problem is I'm not as familair with all Star Gate Technology as I am with Star Trek Technolgy .... Sorry .... so this thread is somewhat an educational experience for me.