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The main idea behind this is that somehow different parts of the Stargate universe from different times suddenly merge with the Trek one

The Stargate timelines go as such:

Pegasus Galaxy during the Alteran-Wraith war
Ida Galaxy during the Asgard-Replicator war
Milky Way would have the Free Jaffa Nation, Earth somewhat before the episode “Unending” and include the Goa’uld shortly before the death of Apophis
And depending on popular opinion we can have the Ori in on this…

And Star Trek would be set during the dominion war

This is a nation and character based RP...

Claims:
Orthodox Gnosticism(atm the Ori)
Kormanthor(United Federation of Planets)
North Calaveras(Goa'uld)
Animarnia(Borg)
Nebarri_Prime(Alterans)
Firehelper(Replicators)
[NS]Corbournne(Cardassian Union)


IC thread:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12629793#post12629793

I would be very interested in playing, but if it were at all possible I would want to play the Ori. Only because that will give the most character depth for my play style, which would in the beginning mostly utilize the friars, and eventually would use ships and the Orasi (Adria). If this is not acceptable however, then I would like to play as Stargate Command.

One question though, how will you get past the two earth idea, since both shows have earth as one of the central planets of the galaxy?

I would like to play the United Federation of Planets, my first nation is Kormanthor just in case you want to know what my experience is.

Normally I only use Koramerica for MT or PMT threads so if you wish I could use Kormanthor to play the United Federation of Planets in this thread.

So Korm, do you accept Origin :) Seriously though are we goign to use the basic stats from the two prospective universes? Like the federation having roughly 4000 ships?

So Korm, do you accept Origin :) Seriously though are we goign to use the basic stats from the two prospective universes? Like the federation having roughly 4000 ships?

I think the Ori are meant to in someway represent what some people think Christianity is. But I have never seen any starships come from heaven in order to subvert earth, so I'm not to worried about the origin, they are what they are ... sci fi fiction.
Secondly I don't think I would need to use even a small fraction of those ships if I wanted to take over the SGC Universe. But the United Federation of Planets is only a military entity when it needs to be, otherwise it is a exploratory one. Thats not to say that the Dominion or that Klingons wouldn't try to conquer the SGC though. And if that happened the UFP would have to defeand the SGC with those 4,000 ships possibly. :p

I want to play as the Romulan Star Empire.

I want to play as the Romulan Star Empire.


Yea they may try to subvert the SGC too!

Yea they may try to subvert the SGC too!


I think my forces are going to be a little to pre occupied dealing with the Ori, Goa’uld, Wraith, and the Replicators plus the more realistic threat of the Dominion, Klingons and heaven forbid maybe the Cardassians, and the Breen.

I do not know, the star gate universe has the same technobabble BS power as star trek. Although the humans do not have a deflector dish yet :) Seriously though the federation would have a hard time taking out the SGC universe. The asgard alone could easily hold back the federation. They can even stop time on an entire planet. Unless you are talking about Earth SGC vs. the federation then yeah you are right, at least once the antartica outpost runs out of drones. ;)

I do not know, the star gate universe has the same technobabble BS power as star trek. Although the humans do not have a deflector dish yet :) Seriously though the federation would have a hard time taking out the SGC universe. The asgard alone could easily hold back the federation. They can even stop time on an entire planet. Unless you are talking about Earth SGC vs. the federation then yeah you are right, at least once the antartica chair runs out of drones. ;)


I'm talking about 24 th century UFP science for the most part, but the Guardian of Forever is all I'd really need to beat the Ori, just travel through time back before the Ori became so powerful if nothing else.

I think my forces are going to be a little to pre occupied dealing with the Ori, Goa’uld, Wraith, and the Replicators plus the more realistic threat of the Dominion, Klingons and heaven forbid maybe the Cardassians, and the Breen.


You might be right

You could but how would you get to a distant galaxy? After all in stargate traveling between the pegasus galaxy and the milkyway takes 3 weeks using the inferior Earth hyperdrive. The asgard can do it in 4 days, yet the federation takes 70 years jsut to get to the delta quadrant of the milkyway. :)

By the way here is a clip of the ori

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-2WXW3s09Q

here is all the information on the stargate universe you could ever want.
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

You could but how would you get to a distant galaxy? After all in stargate traveling between the pegasus galaxy and the milkyway takes 3 weeks using the inferior Earth hyperdrive. The asgard can do it in 4 days, yet the federation takes 70 years jsut to get to the delta quadrant of the milkyway. :)

By the way here is a clip of the ori

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-2WXW3s09Q

here is all the information on the stargate universe you could ever want.
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page


Trans Warp Conduits would be one way or getting a traveller to help us get there would probly be the best way. Beyond that Kormanthor has super gates of there own already, that are used to travel from the Milky Way Galaxy to the Andromeda, Earth V Galaxy and Galaxy 2 all the time.

You could but how would you get to a distant galaxy? After all in stargate traveling between the pegasus galaxy and the milkyway takes 3 weeks using the inferior Earth hyperdrive. The asgard can do it in 4 days, yet the federation takes 70 years jsut to get to the delta quadrant of the milkyway. :)

By the way here is a clip of the ori

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-2WXW3s09Q

here is all the information on the stargate universe you could ever want.
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page


I have a question what happens if the Ori's forces run into an alien faction? I mean the Romulans are not human thus would they be exempt from the Orgin crusade?

Probably not, but knowing the Romulan Empire they would fake their allegance to Origin to get their technology, and a few nearly ascended beings. That is if I am taking into concideration their sneaky and deceptiveness to the right degree. After all they are trying to convert the Asgard, the Ja'fa (forgive me for mispelling). Then again the OP might not let me play the ori, if that is the case I would like to play stargate command, which means I would probably ally with the federation.

Probably not, but knowing the Romulan Empire they would fake their allegance to Origin to get their technology, and a few nearly ascended beings. That is if I am taking into concideration their sneaky and deceptiveness to the right degree. After all they are trying to convert the Asgard, the Ja'fa (forgive me for mispelling). Then again the OP might not let me play the ori, if that is the case I would like to play stargate command, which means I would probably ally with the federation.


I would say that since life was started by a humanoid group that distributed the same dna every where they might be included. :p

Probably not, but knowing the Romulan Empire they would fake their allegance to Origin to get their technology, and a few nearly ascended beings. That is if I am taking into concideration their sneaky and deceptiveness to the right degree. After all they are trying to convert the Asgard, the Ja'fa (forgive me for mispelling). Then again the OP might not let me play the ori, if that is the case I would like to play stargate command, which means I would probably ally with the federation.

The Romulans would most likely try and defeat you first in open battle. If they lose the fight they will try and make a non aggression pact or some other agreement and begin using the Tal'Shiar to infiltrate and learn about your society. They will look into technology weaknesses ect. If they find something they can use strategically in battle, The Romulans will then try and provoke a fight while making their opponent look like the aggressor or more likely attack when no one is looking....

I would say that since life was started by a humanoid group that distributed the same dna every where they might be included. :p

I almost forgot about that episode. That was a great one.

I would say that since life was started by a humanoid group that distributed the same dna every where they might be included. :p



No! Romulans related to Klingons it just can't be! :eek:

I almost forgot about that episode. That was a great one.


The episode is ("The Chase") found in the ST Timeline



4 billion years BC A humanoid race seeds DNA across the Alpha Quadrant on various planets including Qu'onos, Earth, Vulcan and Cardassia.



Link to the ST Timeline:

http://www.thewellers.com/startrek/enttm2.htm

I have a question what happens if the Ori's forces run into an alien faction? I mean the Romulans are not human thus would they be exempt from the Orgin crusade?


Acccording to the Star Trek Timeline in the year 4 billion BC, a humanoid race seeds DNA across the Alpha Quadrant on various planets including Qu'onos, Earth, Vulcan and Cardassia . Since the Romulans are cousins to the Vulcans they would probly be included by the Ori. :p

I would be very interested in playing, but if it were at all possible I would want to play the Ori. Only because that will give the most character depth for my play style, which would in the beginning mostly utilize the friars, and eventually would use ships and the Orasi (Adria). If this is not acceptable however, then I would like to play as Stargate Command.

One question though, how will you get past the two earth idea, since both shows have earth as one of the central planets of the galaxy?

The best I have for that is that the Systems from SG and ST overlap(the suns become one, but the planets are all located at a different point in orbit, thus making two earths in the same system etc)

And, as I said pending popular opinion for the Ori…though it seems the Ori are open for the claiming…

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Kormanthor: use whichever one you want to RP with

I shall accept claims for the Romulans, Federation, and unless otherwise stated the Ori…

Personally I am at odds between my selecting the Wraith, Goa’uld, or Alterans...or maybe even the Asgard...

If either you or anyone would have a problem with the Ori, then I will not take it, and I would like to claim the Stargate command. However if anyone does not mind, I would greatly appreciate it if I could play the ori.

and just looking around, but here are some interesting vids for some general SG ship combat and one that shows some of the power of Earth ships, Wraith ships, and the awesome power of even i not so good condition Alteran Battleship

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxuZPQ1PQHU&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y2SKKTZoWg

If either you or anyone would have a problem with the Ori, then I will not take it, and I would like to claim the Stargate command. However if anyone does not mind, I would greatly appreciate it if I could play the ori.


i have no problem with the Ori...i just know some people might...

u know i am a huge stargate fan, but i dont know if this will get crudded, and discussed( no photon torpedoes do that, no railguns)

well you know, can i be a goa'uld, and if so do we have to be a charecter from the sereies or our own.

well you know, can i be a goa'uld, and if so do we have to be a charecter from the sereies or our own.

i prefer characters from the show...but that also limits alot...made up characters can always be used to add to the factions that dont get to many select characters

okay im thinking of witch goald to play.

I know Ra is dead, but who isnt, besides baal. so can i play as Ra.

okay im thinking of witch goald to play.

unless you dont want it, i think i would grant you command of all the Goa'uld

I know Ra is dead, but who isnt, besides baal. so can i play as Ra.

please note in my first post, that it the timelines are not single sets for the SG factions...the Goa'uld are set for shortly before Apophis dies

okay, then can i just be the goa;uld as a whole.

Can I be the borg? (we could balance out the Ori)

Can I be the borg? (we could balance out the Ori)

I am cool with that, but are you going to be the borg from the next generation or voyager? There is a massive difference.

added, and i added myself as the Alterans...which can challange the Ori...or Borg...and if we bother to add this in it counters Ascended Ori...

have i been accepted?

you could look at the first post...but then i didnt say i added claims to the first post...but now i did :p

but yes, you have...

cool ty.

hold up are there stargate on the planets?

hold up are there stargate on the planets?

on the planets from Stargate yes...

k when is this going to start, or has it already?

added, and i added myself as the Alterans...which can challange the Ori...or Borg...and if we bother to add this in it counters Ascended Ori...

Sounds like fun. However I was going to stick with the non interferance rule with the ascended Ori. After all dragging in the ascended will be (forgive the pun) godmoding.

Unless you want to have a war of the ascended on the upper planes of existance, which may be fun.

Sounds like fun. However I was going to stick with the non interferance rule with the ascended Ori. After all dragging in the ascended will be (forgive the pun) godmoding.

Unless you want to have a war of the ascended on the upper planes of existance, which may be fun.

i'll avoid a war of the ascended for the time being thank you very much...and technically if the Ori win such a fight then they would interfere...at least canonly

how are we supposed to do this, i tried making a sci-fi mix and it failed miserably.

I am cool with that, but are you going to be the borg from the next generation or voyager? There is a massive difference.

Voyager Borg, Pre-Civil war. (when the borg were united and strong)

Voyager Borg, Pre-Civil war. (when the borg were united and strong)




The Borg!

NO!!! We are all going to be assimilated!!!

The Borg!

NO!!! We are all going to be assimilated!!!

Resistance is; always has been and always will be futile :P

how are we supposed to do this, i tried making a sci-fi mix and it failed miserably.

well hopefully this one will not fail, especially since this is more of a character RP. Those have a tendancy to last longer than say fleet vs fleet rps.

Over all though this looks great at the moment 3 Startrek races and 3 star gate. A good even match up.


My main character will be Adria (Orisi)

well hopefully this one will not fail, especially since this is more of a character RP. Those have a tendancy to last longer than say fleet vs fleet rps.

Over all though this looks great at the moment 3 Startrek races and 3 star gate. A good even match up.


My main character will be Adria (Orisi)

on the topic of characters...

i think my main character(or maybe all of them somehow...) will be Chaya Sar, Melia, Moros, and or Trebal...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_characters_in_Stargate

^ in case you dont know the characters...

Can i take the Replicators with RepliCarter as my character?

and the Replicators are yours

Ok Can I have some info on the guy playing the Gou'ld? System names; minor System Lords, commanders, planets etc..there going to be the Borgs first target in there Dark crusade *grins* be warned these borg are going to be the feard and scarily efficent borg we should have seen on the show. By the way can I use a Cloned Locutus and Borg Queen as my main characters?

we borg/ replicators should ally


....I wanted those atlantis replicators but than they are not a coice (even if they are in the only timeline they exist they are nothing but pathetic alteran slaves)

Ok Can I have some info on the guy playing the Gou'ld? System names; minor System Lords, commanders, planets etc..there going to be the Borgs first target in there Dark crusade *grins* be warned these borg are going to be the feard and scarily efficent borg we should have seen on the show. By the way can I use a Cloned Locutus and Borg Queen as my main characters?

sure...and i suppsoe even 7 of 9...

i can get a list of System Lords and systems...but he would know what he wants...

Replicators and Borg dont ally! its not normal...the Borg only allied with anyone once...after getting an ass kicking by 8472... they would find eachother very nice targets though...the tech they can get...and the Replicating the Reps can do...

Could I take the Cardassian Union, or would they be unplayable due to their entry into the Dominion?

If not, then I'll take 'em.

Otherwise, it's Klingon time!

I would be willing to play Stargate Command, aka, Earth.

Just curious though, do I have rp with the characters from the show or can we make up our own?

Corbournne;12625084']Could I take the Cardassian Union, or would they be unplayable due to their entry into the Dominion?

If not, then I'll take 'em.

Otherwise, it's Klingon time!

i generally consider them seperate...Breen to if they ever joined the Dominion...which i dont recall...

the CU is yours!

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SGC is yours Telros...and i prefer use of show based characters...but you can always use your own

I will do my best with the characters then, with some of my own.

On another note, anyone have any good links to sites that show of SGC's ships and what they can use?

Also, NP, how many ships can I have? I know Earth didn't have too many in the show....

I will do my best with the characters then, with some of my own.

On another note, anyone have any good links to sites that show of SGC's ships and what they can use?

Also, NP, how many ships can I have? I know Earth didn't have too many in the show....

you could have about 4 Daedalus and an X-303 at best...your advantage is that SGC know how to fight better then almost anyone both SG and ST...and you planet is protected by an Alteran Drone Weapon system

Daedalus have several Railguns...and Naquadah Enhanced Nuclear Missiles...as well as 16 F-302 fighters...

F-302 are armed with 2 Vulcan cannons and something like 4 Naquadah Enhanced AA missiles

X-303 has a few CIWS, a few less Railguns, some Naquadah Enhanced Missiles(including rear launched missiles) and 12 F-302s

both major ships have Asgard shielding(it seems, much stronger then goa'uld shields) as well as Asgard hyperdrives, allowing for intergalaxctic trips...

thats just some general info...the best sight for stats on SG tech isn't around anymore sadly

EDIT: the F-302 is also far better in combat then the Wraith Dart(acts as a fighter, but not built to be one) though, once out of missiles a Goa'uld Death Glider is better, as it is somewhat smaller, faster, more maneuverable, can fly for longer amounts of time, and have energy weapons rather then a Vulcan cannon

Thats all well and good, but if any faction chooses to bring their navy down hard, I am screwed.

sure...and i suppsoe even 7 of 9...

i can get a list of System Lords and systems...but he would know what he wants...

Replicators and Borg dont ally! its not normal...the Borg only allied with anyone once...after getting an ass kicking by 8472... they would find eachother very nice targets though...the tech they can get...and the Replicating the Reps can do...

the federation can have 7 of 9; as much as I love her she's not a borg anymore so the feds get her.

Thats all well and good, but if any faction chooses to bring their navy down hard, I am screwed.

allies are handy...and the Alteran Drone weapon is quite capable of destroying most fleets... and i highly doubt anyone will be risking an attack with to much force in there navy...its risky with so many major and or hostile powers running about...and your fleet can perhaps be best used for support, or for selected battles...you only fight battles you can win...unless the enemy is on your doorstep then you make them bleed as much as you can

EDIT: correction, X-303 has 8 fighters...

Thats all well and good, but if any faction chooses to bring their navy down hard, I am screwed.

and when you see what the borg are going to do to the Gou'ld. fear. lots of fear *grins*

allies are handy...and the Alteran Drone weapon is quite capable of destroying most fleets...(i highly doubt anyone will be risking an attack with to much force in there navy...its risky with so many major and or hostile powers running about...)

until it runs out of drones; then your screwed and we don't know how it will hold up against the borg adtaptive shielding yet. and I think its important that no body knows each others weaknesses yet. for example the borg wouldn't know what a drone system is until they encountered it; anymore than a Gou'ld Ha'tak would know what the heck a Cube is until it popped into there space and started pounding them into the ground. the Feds would know the weaknesss of the borg but the SG verse people wouldn't and Visa versa as it makes things more balanced. though the borg adapt pretty damn fast

until it runs out of drones; then your screwed and we don't know how it will hold up against the borg adtaptive shielding yet.

as far as i can tell Drone weapons ignore shielding...they where never effected when attacking Goa'uld warships...and technically we would never know how seeing as they are from two different shows :p


and they have a hell of alot of Drones...

I can't find any info on the Alteran Drone Systen. Mind telling me how it works exactly?

as far as i can tell Drone weapons ignore shielding...they where never effected when attacking Goa'uld warships...and technically we would never know how seeing as they are from two different shows :p


and they have a hell of alot of Drones...

In "Road not taken" we saw the drone platform drive off a Ori Toilet ship; the drones did most deffinetly not go through the shields then; we know so little about how drones work if they phase through shields like the Feds Transphasic torps then they could take the borg down quite quickly; if they act like normal "energy missiles" en mass then the borg will adapt. one things for sure the borg will take heavy losses on the first encounter. and Gou'ld sheilds arn't as good as Borg or even Asgard Shields...hmmm Borg Enhanced adaptive regenrative asguard shields now there is a scary thought for everyone :P

least the Wraith and Atlantians are safe from the Green for now :P

OOC: I withdraw my hold on SGC. I know too little about its tech and everything and it would be best if I just pulled out.

I can't find any info on the Alteran Drone Systen. Mind telling me how it works exactly?

its on SG earths antarica; you have O'Niel or someone with the ATA gene sit in the Control chair; and it fires thousands of Atlantian drones into space to defend the planet; the drones are like Homing Energy Missiles as far as I can tell; theres still a huge debate on HOW they work as its never been really explained on the show. they seem to ignore all but Ori/Lantian shields though its never been tested aganst anything other than Gou'ld shields which are sub par to most races in the SG verse.


OOC: I withdraw my hold on SGC. I know too little about its tech and everything and it would be best if I just pulled out.

Dude don't worry about it :) we're all here to have fun; asking questions is what its all about. SGC has a lot of advantages over many of the other races; they have the best military tech and have taken on ships 10x there size and come off better than the other guy so just go with the flow

In "Line not taken" we saw the drone platform drive off a Ori Toilet ship; the drones did most deffinetly not go through the shields then; we know so little about how drones work if they phase through shields like the Feds Transphasic torps then they could take the borg down quite quickly; if they act like normal "energy missiles" en mass then the borg will adapt. one things for sure the borg will take heavy losses on the first encounter.

"The Road Not Taken" is the name of the ep i think your talking about...and it states that the Drones did destroy an Ori ship, but the ZPM ran out of power...i dont remember seeing any Drones fired at the Ori ships...

but then you could be talking about something else...or seen different footage from a different country or something...

I am not worried about FIGHTING, I am worried bout just able to rp it correctly. Seeing as I havent even seriously watched the show, it would be best if I let someone who knows how to, play them.

I am not worried about FIGHTING, I am worried bout just able to rp it correctly. Seeing as I havent even seriously watched the show, it would be best if I let someone who knows how to, play them.

well, if you are for sure not going to be SGC, then would you be intrested in any of the other possible factions? SG or ST? or are you withdrawing from the entire RP?

Well, I dont think there is any faction I know enough about to play as. ST is a gray area for me, as is SG. *shrugs*

Telros, the SGC is an awesome force. Yes you do have fewer ships, but your ships are very deadly. One tactic the SGC uses is to beam a nuke insode an enemy ship (which you can use while your shields are up) and blow them up from the inside.

Besides in this game, SGC earth will be in the same orbit as the federation earth. In order to attack your earth they will have to go through the heart of the federation. Besides the SGC has the asgards, one of the most powerful races in any scifi as a ally. The SGC earth will be fine.

Also you would have a secret weapon, Technobabble bs x2 (that is even greater than star treks) to make up stuff and invent weapons ;)

Roleplaying the SGC is easy, be good at fighting, make up technobable on occasion and above all else make fun of every scifi show ever, including SG-1. I am serious about that.

and when you see what the borg are going to do to the Gou'ld. fear. lots of fear *grins*

That is only if they do not convert to origin first :) I will be nice though, I will probably give the federation the first chance to join the fold, and "attain enlightenment."

Thats all true, OG, but I don't feel...comfortable playing them and trying to play characters I hardly know is immensely hard for me.

That is only if they do not convert to origin first :) I will be nice though, I will probably give the federation the first chance to join the fold, and "attain enlightenment."

Origin in Irelivent
Negotiaion is Irelivent
Enlightnement is Ireleivent

Gods I love the borg

Origin in Irelivent
Negotiaion is Irelivent
Enlightnement is Ireleivent

Gods I love the borg

Damn that is too bad, it is going to suck when the borg catch the plight, which is a disease that can only be cured by the Ori or the Alterans. :) Aka by ascended beings or beings with ascended knowledge. Perhaps enlightenment is not so irrelevant

One quick question about the replicators. Are you going to allow t he Alterean replicators and the regular ones, or just one or the other?

One quick suggestion to avoid wanking though, I think that if there is a question about the mix universe the OP should be the final say so, otherwise this thread will die very quickly, and a lot of people will be upset. (example photon torpedoes damage in comparision to stargate nukes, or the effects of a borg tractor beam on a Asgard shield) Is that a resonable suggestion?

Damn that is too bad, it is going to suck when the borg catch the plight, which is a disease that can only be cured by the Ori or the Alterans. :) Aka by ascended beings or beings with ascended knowledge. Perhaps enlightenment is not so irrelevant

One quick question about the replicators. Are you going to allow t he Alterean replicators and the regular ones, or just one or the other?

One quick suggestion to avoid wanking though, I think that if there is a question about the mix universe the OP should be the final say so, otherwise this thread will die very quickly, and a lot of people will be upset. (example photon torpedoes damage in comparision to stargate nukes) Is that ok?

The Borg will adapt; borg regneration is insanely higher than a normal human cos of the nanoprobes in there blood; besides you'd have to infect us first :P besides the gou'ld are going to be taking the brunt of our borgness for a bit while you take out the federation. (Yay Soverign Class Vs Ori Toilet)

And thats fine with me; I think a Photon Torp has a yield of roughly 250 megatons which is around the same as Naq Enhanced Nuke; but the Gatbuster has a bigger bang but are harder to make etc and a Photon Torp is more focused where a nuke is Omi directional. ST energy weapons are in the range of Terawatts though (100,000-250,000TW) as far as I know.

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The Borg will adapt; borg regneration is insanely higher than a normal human cos of the nanoprobes in there blood; besides you'd have to infect us first :P besides the gou'ld are going to be taking the brunt of our borgness for a bit while you take out the federation. (Yay Soverign Class Vs Ori Toilet)

lol I know ;) What do you say to an alliance, after all the borg queen wants to attain perfection and the Ori gladly offer perfection. Besides how vicious would the queen be, and the borg as a whole after I turn her into a friar. :)

lol I know ;) What do you say to an alliance, after all the borg queen wants to attain perfection and the Ori gladly offer perfection. Besides how vicious would the queen be, and the borg as a whole after I turn her into a friar. :)

I don't think the physiolgy is compatable I doubt the borg could "accend"; now assimulated Wraith would be damn scary; add a nurishment sack to keep 'em fed and those buggers will fight harder than klingons

I don't think the physiolgy is compatable I doubt the borg could "accend"; now assimulated Wraith would be damn scary; add a nurishment sack to keep 'em fed and those buggers will fight harder than klingons

It is possible, since ascension has nothing to do with what your body is. You are right though, a wraith borg would be insane, not to mention the entire collective hungering for human lifeforce. Scary. I wonder if the borg could assimilate the replicators. In the end it would be nanites vs nanites.

The best I have for that is that the Systems from SG and ST overlap(the suns become one, but the planets are all located at a different point in orbit, thus making two earths in the same system etc)

And, as I said pending popular opinion for the Ori…though it seems the Ori are open for the claiming…

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Kormanthor: use whichever one you want to RP with

I shall accept claims for the Romulans, Federation, and unless otherwise stated the Ori…

Personally I am at odds between my selecting the Wraith, Goa’uld, or Alterans...or maybe even the Asgard...


I choose the UFP

the federation can have 7 of 9; as much as I love her she's not a borg anymore so the feds get her.


Thank You I will take her

It is possible, since ascension has nothing to do with what your body is. You are right though, a wraith borg would be insane, not to mention the entire collective hungering for human lifeforce. Scary. I wonder if the borg could assimilate the replicators. In the end it would be nanites vs nanites.

Asgard cant ascend due to the cloning defect...Borg could "assimilate" the Replicators in the same sense that they can assimilate other tech...and Replicators can get a hell of a lot of Replicators from Borg Cubes...

no Ancient Reps...im not making them! they are creapy! and once they really get going, who can stop them?

Photon Torp being about the same as Naq. Enhanced Nuke used on Daedalus and such is good...

weapon power is somewhat unknown for SG energy weapons...my say is that we can consider Type X phasers as near equal to Ha'tak staff cannons...this gives larger SG ships a chance to counter the truly more numerous ST races with a little more firepower per ship...

That is only if they do not convert to origin first :) I will be nice though, I will probably give the federation the first chance to join the fold, and "attain enlightenment."


The Federation isn't interested in attaining enlightenment

Damn that is too bad, it is going to suck when the borg catch the plight, which is a disease that can only be cured by the Ori or the Alterans. :) Aka by ascended beings or beings with ascended knowledge. Perhaps enlightenment is not so irrelevant

One quick question about the replicators. Are you going to allow t he Alterean replicators and the regular ones, or just one or the other?

One quick suggestion to avoid wanking though, I think that if there is a question about the mix universe the OP should be the final say so, otherwise this thread will die very quickly, and a lot of people will be upset. (example photon torpedoes damage in comparision to stargate nukes, or the effects of a borg tractor beam on a Asgard shield) Is that a resonable suggestion?

Not really as Photon Torpedoes are powered by Matter / Antimatter which is much more powerful then Nuclear Power.

The Borg will adapt; borg regneration is insanely higher than a normal human cos of the nanoprobes in there blood; besides you'd have to infect us first :P besides the gou'ld are going to be taking the brunt of our borgness for a bit while you take out the federation. (Yay Soverign Class Vs Ori Toilet)

And thats fine with me; I think a Photon Torp has a yield of roughly 250 megatons which is around the same as Naq Enhanced Nuke; but the Gatbuster has a bigger bang but are harder to make etc and a Photon Torp is more focused where a nuke is Omi directional. ST energy weapons are in the range of Terawatts though (100,000-250,000TW) as far as I know.

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Where are you getting these numbers from, I will need to see the link or whatever.

Not really as Photon Torpedoes are powered by Matter / Antimatter which is much more powerful then Nuclear Power.

This is why I asked for the OP to moderate and be the final say so in the universe mixing. Otherwise the thread will die by the third post, from technobabble argueing. Since the universe is mixed, the power ratio may change. By the way Naq. nukes are much more powerful than standard nukes. Please though, the OP is the judge and jury, or else the potiential fun and exciting story that we will create will die a quick and very painful death.

This is why I asked for the OP to moderate and be the final say so in the universe mixing. Otherwise the thread will die by the third post, from technobabble argueing. Since the universe is mixed, the power ratio may change. By the way Naq. nukes are much more powerful than standard nukes. Please though, the OP is the judge and jury, or else the potiential fun and exciting story that we will create will die a quick and very painful death.

Ok but it seems to me that the Ori seem to be the faction that is unbalanced - ie - more powerful. I was told that there laser beams are much more power then the Federations Phasers, even though I'm not sure I agree.

Ok but it seems to me that the Ori seem to be the faction that is unbalanced - ie - more powerful. I was told that there laser beams are much more power then the Federations Phasers, even though I'm not sure I agree.

if you do not wish for me to play the ori please let me know, and I will switch to the asgard.

Yes their beams are powerful. In the last episode of Stargate atlantis the deadilis (forgive the spelling) took a direct blast from a massive solar flare and dropped the shields to 60% ( with a zpm and the blast was over 10 minutes long)

A ori ship's laser in one hit dropped the odyseey's shield s to 23% in one shot (also hada zpm on board). Yes it is very powerful, but the ori only have 10 ships in the invasion of the milkyway galaxy. again though I am trying to be resonable, if you have any serious objections then I will play the asgard, which are also very powerful yet not quite as bad.

I doubt phasers are as powerful as a direct beam of stellar material, but I may be wrong. Even if they are as powerful as an ejected part of the sun, the Ori laser by damage done to the Odysey's shields would prove to be more powerful. Again though I will not play the ori if anyone objects.

but you should have very few worries, you will have after all the all powerful deflector dish :)

Edit: The altereans have the drones, and weapons that can counter the ori, and the borg after a few losses can adapt most likely to the energy weapon. I figure about at the latest after the first 10 cubes destroyed they will adapt, if not sooner. So it is not unbalanced at least for ship to ship combat. The SGC (with the help of an ascended alterean that came down in human form) came up with an anti friar weapon that blocks the friar's and Orici's powers for an hour up to a day (before the Friar's adapt).

Ok but it seems to me that the Ori seem to be the faction that is unbalanced - ie - more powerful. I was told that there laser beams are much more power then the Federations Phasers, even though I'm not sure I agree.

http://www.ditl.org/

I tend to use those "phaser power" figures singularlly instead of collectively as it makes it more balanced with SG weaponry.

if you do not wish for me to play the ori please let me know, and I will switch to the asgard.

Yes their beams are powerful. In the last episode of Stargate atlantis the deadilis (forgive the spelling) took a direct blast from a massive solar flare and dropped the shields to 60% ( with a zpm and the blast was over 10 minutes long)

A ori ship's laser in one hit dropped the odyseey's shield s to 23% in one shot (also hada zpm on board). Yes it is very powerful, but the ori only have 10 ships in the invasion of the milkyway galaxy. again though I am trying to be resonable, if you have any serious objections then I will play the asgard, which are also very powerful yet not quite as bad.

I doubt phasers are as powerful as a direct beam of stellar material, but I may be wrong. Even if they are as powerful as an ejected part of the sun, the Ori laser by damage done to the Odysey's shields would prove to be more powerful. Again though I will not play the ori if anyone objects.

but you should have very few worries, you will have after all the all powerful deflector dish :)


Maybe we could just tone them down to reasonable levels to keep the RP balanced. I don't really dislike the asgard enough to consider them as enemies, in fact I like the Thor character alot.

Maybe we could just tone them down to reasonable levels to keep the RP balanced. I don't really dislike the asgard enough to consider them as enemies, in fact I like the Thor character alot.

I edited, to show all of the counters that will easily exist. Besides I will not be your enemy, especially in the begining. I will try to save the federation from the dominion to show the federation the power of the ori. After all the Ori do not ask for blind faith. Only after that would you consider me an enemy, if you did not convert. After all how many times did the Ori engage in dialogue with Stargate, and still have yet to attack earth, even after earth has attacked them many times. (they are just going after the Ja'fa and the lesser human planets)

Reposted Edit: The altereans have the drones, and weapons that can counter the ori, and the borg after a few losses can adapt most likely to the energy weapon. I figure about at the latest after the first 10 cubes destroyed they will adapt, if not sooner. So it is not unbalanced at least for ship to ship combat. The SGC (with the help of an ascended alterean that came down in human form) came up with an anti friar weapon that blocks the friar's and Orici's powers for an hour up to a day (before the Friar's adapt).

I almost forgot about Merlin's Anti Ascended weapon that could take out the ascended ancients, the ascended ori, and most likely the q continum. If the SGC can make all those cool toys imagine what the Federation could make with the proper help and time.

http://www.ditl.org/

I tend to use those "phaser power" figures singularlly instead of collectively as it makes it more balanced with SG weaponry.


I think the transphasic torpedoes will be a nice addition to my starships, as will the phased cloaking device.

I think the transphasic torpedoes will be a nice addition to my starships, as will the phased cloaking device.

Go for it :) the borg will be using everything at its disposal so fairs fair. we'll be dealing with the Gou'ld for a while though...hmmmm Borgified Hataks

I think the transphasic torpedoes will be a nice addition to my starships, as will the phased cloaking device.

If the OP says it is ok go for it, but I thought the federation utilized the holo cloak, not a phased one, unless you count that experimental one on that test ship, that Captain Picard destroyed. (which was illegal due to the peace treaty signed at the end of the Federation romulan war). But Transphasic torpedoes are cool with me, since Voyager had it.

Go for it :) the borg will be using everything at its disposal so fairs fair. we'll be dealing with the Gou'ld for a while though...hmmmm Borgified Hataks


I think the trilithium torpedo and the Druoda Weapon would be very good additions as well, maybe even a Xindi Sphere.

Go for it :) the borg will be using everything at its disposal so fairs fair. we'll be dealing with the Gou'ld for a while though...hmmmm Borgified Hataks

I like the way you think :)

If the OP says it is ok go for it, but I thought the federation utilized the holo cloak, not a phased one, unless you count that experimental one on that test ship, that Captain Picard destroyed. (which was illegal due to the peace treaty signed at the end of the Federation romulan war). But Transphasic torpedoes are cool with me, since Voyager had it.


Yes but I'm sure the treaty could be over looked in order to save the Alpha Quadrant from the Ori. After all the Ori wasn't one races named in the treaty and they are invaders from outside the Galaxy with an unbalanced power advantage.

Yes but I'm sure the treaty could be over looked in order to save the Alpha Quadrant from the Ori. After all the Ori wasn't one races named in the treaty and they are invaders from outside the Galaxy with an unbalanced power advantage.

lol how true. I am cool with it so no worries. Besides as I stated before I plan on aiding you much more than being your enemy. After all the Ori are very forgiving :)

lol how true. I am cool with it so no worries. Besides as I stated before I plan on aiding you much more than being your enemy. After all the Ori are very forgiving :)


Have you ever read how Kirk was brought back to life after his fatal confrontation with Doctor Soran in the Amargosa system?

Have you ever read how Kirk was brought back to life after his fatal confrontation with Doctor Soran in the Amargosa system?


I believe it was done by the Borg using Nano technolgy, maybe I'll have 7 of 9 do it again. :p

Have you ever read how Kirk was brought back to life after his fatal confrontation with Doctor Soran in the Amargosa system?

nope. I know very little about Kirk and his era. Most of my ST knowledge comes from TNG ( seen every episode) half the dominion war, (I didn't like voyager too much, the borg were made too wimpy, as the entire borg fleet could not destroy voyager in their own space yet one cube could take out half of starfleet) and Enterprise (I am one of 8 people that like that show)

How did it happen?

nope. I know very little about Kirk and his era. Most of my ST knowledge comes from TNG ( seen every episode) half the dominion war, (I didn't like voyager too much, the borg were made too wimpy, as the entire borg fleet could not destroy voyager in their own space yet one cube could take out half of starfleet) and Enterprise (I am one of 8 people that like that show)

How did it happen?


The storyline I am talking about is the TNG movie called Star Trek Generations, as Captain Picard is the one who brings Kirk out of the Nexus to help him defeat Doctor Soran in the Amargosa system as the Enterprise -D's saucer section crashlands on the planet. Kirk is killed in the fight and Picard covers his body with rocks on top of the mountain they were on.

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/MOV/007/synopsis/87.html


Later in a paperback the Borg find Kirks remains and brings him back to life, kirk evenually escapes the borg then teams up again with Picard to destroy the Borg.

you know this borg assimiliating replicator things could work both ways.
1. if a borg destroys a repicator ship and scans it it can make replicators
or 2. the replicators beam someone on a borg ship and invasivly copy the technology.
both result in a bor/repilcator combination

goa'uld have 1 gigton staff cannon blasts (SG nukes are 1-100 gig depending on ammount of naquadah)
strongest ST weapon, (well conventional) photon torpedo, is rated at around 250 megatons
goa'uld ships use the ocillation priciple for their shields meaning a sufficiently fast or sow projctile (I'm thinking space mines here) can impact the ship directly.
etc....
I belive that ST tech, while less powerful, is more flexible than SG tech but thats my viewpoint

Star Trek Generations, decent film. I had almost forgotten it.

So in this book Kirk destroys the collective, so does that mean the borg are gone, or just gone in that one area? How did Kirk break free of the Hive Collective that would control his mind?

Star Trek Generations, decent film. I had almost forgotten it.

So in this book Kirk destroys the collective, so does that mean the borg are gone, or just gone in that one area? How did Kirk break free of the Hive Collective that would control his mind?


He wasn't a drone I don't believe, I think he lived among another type of borg in a village setting, but i don't remember the details now. It may not be considered canon, I'm not sure who wrote the book.

you know this borg assimiliating replicator things could work both ways.
1. if a borg destroys a repicator ship and scans it it can make replicators
or 2. the replicators beam someone on a borg ship and invasivly copy the technology.
both result in a bor/repilcator combination

goa'uld have 1 gigton staff cannon blasts (SG nukes are 1-100 gig depending on ammount of naquadah)
strongest ST weapon, (well conventional) photon torpedo, is rated at around 250 megatons
goa'uld ships use the ocillation priciple for their shields meaning a sufficiently fast or sow projctile (I'm thinking space mines here) can impact the ship directly.
etc....
I belive that ST tech, while less powerful, is more flexible than SG tech but thats my viewpoint


Also Stargate has far fewer ships than star trek. Earth had at most 6 ships, the Go'ald had probably at their height 1000 mother ships. The Wraith which swarm their enemy with superior numbers I think have like a little over 2 thousand ships. THe federation alone outnumbers the wraith, Alterean, Ori, Go'ald and Earth fleets. I think the OP's suggestion is more realistic and fair, ST has greater numbers but less firepower. ST can easily win the war of atrician. After all Atlantis did fall because it was heavily outnumbered, even though it was never outgunned.

Also Stargate has far fewer ships than star trek. Earth had at most 6 ships, the Go'ald had probably at their height 1000 mother ships. The Wraith which swarm their enemy with superior numbers I think have like a little over 2 thousand ships. THe federation alone outnumbers the wraith, Alterean, Ori, Go'ald and Earth fleets. I think the OP's suggestion is more realistic and fair, ST has greater numbers but less firepower. ST can easily win the war of atrician. After all Atlantis did fall because it was heavily outnumbered, even though it was never outgunned.


What is the power source and max speed of the Ori ships?

He wasn't a drone I don't believe, I think he lived among another type of borg in a village setting, but i don't remember the details now. It may not be considered canon, I'm not sure who wrote the book.

Either way it sounds like a good story.

By the way it sounds, we will all have to team up against the borg and the Replicators, before we can begin to kill each other. Otherwise they will be nearly unstoppable. Even the Altereans could not stop the replicators (their version at least) Borg style replicators would just be evil :)

Either way it sounds like a good story.

It was, but I believe Kirk is killed a second time in the explosion that destoys the Borg World he is on.

Either way it sounds like a good story.

By the way it sounds, we will all have to team up against the borg and the Replicators, before we can begin to kill each other. Otherwise they will be nearly unstoppable. Even the Altereans could not stop the replicators (their version at least) Borg style replicators would just be evil :)


Yes but a Wraith-Borg Drone would really mess up your day.

It was, but I believe Kirk is killed a second time in the explosion that destoys the Borg World he is on.

Kirk can be brought back, after all how many times did Spock die, and the Enterprise blown up? They can find a way to bring him back. :)

What is the power source and max speed of the Ori ships?

THey never really go into the power source of the Ori ships. It could be a ZPM like the alterean ships, or just fueled by the ascended ori. I would assume a zpm style powersource since their technology is very similiar to the alterean tech. (Chair control center with genetic encoding features along with similiar weapons.)

THe speed is impressive, they can move from one galaxy to another through their intergalactic hyperdrive in about one day. It is about twice as fast as the transwarp conduit with longer range.

Kirk can be brought back, after all how many times did Spock die, and the Enterprise blown up? They can find a way to bring him back. :)


I figured I could travel to the Amargosa system through the Guardian of Forever before the borg find Kirks body. Retrieve some of his dna, then have 7 of 9 use the same borg process on him after his second death. :D

THey never really go into the power source of the Ori ships. It could be a ZPM like the alterean ships, or just fueled by the ascended ori. I would assume a zpm style powersource since their technology is very similiar to the alterean tech. (Chair control center with genetic encoding features along with similiar weapons.)

THe speed is impressive, they can move from one galaxy to another through their intergalactic hyperdrive in about one day. It is about twice as fast as the transwarp conduit with longer range.

I thought maybe they use small black holes or something similair to the Romulan FTL because of the light at the center of their ships.

Not going to join in on this but the idea sounds pretty intresting.

Anyhow, not sure if this was mentioned, but theoretically the Star Trek ships wouldn't be able to get to the Pegasus Galaxy as their engines are not powerful enough to leave the galaxy. The creators wanted the show to be realistic, they made the ST ships engine to weak to escape the Galaxy's gravity.

Stargate on the otherhand avoids the problem by using Hyperspace.

Over all the only real difference between the Altereans and the Ori are philosophy. Also the Altereans use drone swarms and a few lasers while the Ori use more lasers and a few drones. THeir chair control centertech seems to be similiar, which makes sense because they really are the same people, that only split over ideological differences (Altereans are more science based that believe the mortal plane should be left alone, while the Ori are more like religious fanatics that want power from the faith of the mortal plane) Both manipulate the mortal plane for their own ideology, and to disrupt the otherside.

Kind of like the difference between the Federation and the Ma'kee (forgive the misspelling)

Not going to join in on this but the idea sounds pretty intresting.

Anyhow, not sure if this was mentioned, but theoretically the Star Trek ships wouldn't be able to get to the Pegasus Galaxy as their engines are not powerful enough to leave the galaxy. The creators wanted the show to be realistic, they made the ST ships engine to weak to escape the Galaxy's gravity.

Stargate on the otherhand avoids the problem by using Hyperspace.


The help of a traveler could fix that problem very quickly. I believe that Wesley Crusher has been training with the original traveler for many years now so the Federation might be able to get him to help out. Otherwise 7 0f 9 could help the Federation to construct our own transwarp conduits.

The help of a traveler could fix that problem very quickly. I believe that Wesley Crusher has been training with the original traveler for many years now so the Federation might be able to get him to help out. Otherwise 7 0f 9 could help the Federation to construct our own transwarp conduits.

yes but didn't Wesley Cruisher leave on bad terms with the federation. I remember that he was pretty indifferent to it on the episode where he left with the traveler. Also you would have to make contact with him.

THere is an easier solution, I will build a supergate at some point. If you can figure out the dialing process and the right gate address boom you can get there. (Bajour or Khronos might have to be destroyed to make it but oh well :) )

yes but didn't Wesley Cruisher leave on bad terms with the federation. I remember that he was pretty indifferent to it on the episode where he left with the traveler. Also you would have to make contact with him.

THere is an easier solution, I will build a supergate at some point. If you can figure out the dialing process and the right gate address boom you can get there. (Bajour or Khronos might have to be destroyed to make it but oh well :) )


Acually Kormanthor has a super gate that is held between two star base 74's

Acually Kormanthor has a super gate that is held between two star base 74's

But does the United Federation of Planets? My nations tech base is based on Battlestar Galactica (TNS), and although I would love to use the jump drive, I can't because I am playing the Ori.

But does the United Federation of Planets? My nations tech base is based on Battlestar Galactica (TNS), and although I would love to use the jump drive, I can't because I am playing the Ori.


This is a pic of it:

Orbital StarGate Mark I:

http://usera.imagecave.com/Kormanthor/OrbitalStarGateMarkI.jpg


This link has the stats of Star Base 74

http://www.ditl.org/


From this information I estimate this gate to be around 15,000 meters / 45,000 ft. / 8.5227 miles in diameter. What is the size of the Ori Super Gate?

But does the United Federation of Planets? My nations tech base is based on Battlestar Galactica (TNS), and although I would love to use the jump drive, I can't because I am playing the Ori.


The UFP's enginneers might be able to build one down the road, after they get a look at your super gate.

The UFP's enginneers might be able to build one down the road, after they get a look at your super gate.

That is realistic, the Federation has a nack for copying and improving technology. It is one of the true talents the Federation has. Hince why they are so good at fighting the borg. The borg adapt, so the federation makes something else up, and blows up the borg. Then the Borg adapt and kill the federation. Rinse and repeat.

Stargate tech although much more powerful that Startrek is no where near flexiblem nor inventive. (only exception is Stargate command, they are as inventive as the federation)

That is realistic, the Federation has a nack for copying and improving technology. It is one of the true talents the Federation has. Hince why they are so good at fighting the borg. The borg adapt, so the federation makes something else up, and blows up the borg. Then the Borg adapt and kill the federation. Rinse and repeat.

Stargate tech although much more powerful that Startrek is no where near flexiblem nor inventive. (only exception is Stargate command, they are as inventive as the federation)

which is why when the time comes the Borg will ruthlessly crush the federation; one cube wiped out a huge fleet of ships without even breaking a sweat; the cannon borg have never really commited a large force to taking earth.

That is realistic, the Federation has a nack for copying and improving technology. It is one of the true talents the Federation has. Hince why they are so good at fighting the borg. The borg adapt, so the federation makes something else up, and blows up the borg. Then the Borg adapt and kill the federation. Rinse and repeat.

Stargate tech although much more powerful that Startrek is no where near flexiblem nor inventive. (only exception is Stargate command, they are as inventive as the federation)


Well I guess we will have to work on it together :fluffle:

Well I guess we will have to work on it together :fluffle:

sounds good to me ;) really why should we fight each other, when I can give several of your people demi-god powers then we can focus on killing the borg/replicator threat/unbelievers. make life much easier :) After all even humans want immortality, and through origin you can achieve it ;)

which is why when the time comes the Borg will ruthlessly crush the federation; one cube wiped out a huge fleet of ships without even breaking a sweat; the cannon borg have never really commited a large force to taking earth.

Yea well my federation is a little better prepared for that possiblity. But could we hold that off for awhile. Of course I could always ask the SGC for the use of Merlins cloaking device to make Earth disappear again.

sounds good to me ;) really why should we fight each other, when I can give several of your people demi-god powers then we can focus on killing the borg/replicator threat/unbelievers. make life much easier :) After all even humans want immortality, and through origin you can achieve it ;)

I might be willing to have a rebel group from the Federation look you up on that possibility.

Yea well my federation is a little better prepared for that possiblity. But could we hold that off for awhile. Of course I could always ask the SGC for the use of Merlins cloaking device to make Earth disappear again.

indeed; we're going after the gou'ld anyway...or will be when he shows up

Yea well my federation is a little better prepared for that possiblity. But could we hold that off for awhile. Of course I could always ask the SGC for the use of Merlins cloaking device to make Earth disappear again.

Or you could borrow the Asgard time diloation field and freeze the borg fleet in time, trapping them forever. The borg can not assimilate the laws of nature, like gravity or time :)

Sorry but I have to go to work now, can we pick this discussion up later?
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Alright guys, whens this thing gonna blow up (Start)

o wait do i contorl all jaffa to?

Sorry but I have to go to work now, can we pick this discussion up later?
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sounds great. catch you later.

o wait do i contorl all jaffa to?

I would assume so since the jaffa are still slaves at the timeline that the OP stated.

so from that time on i have all ships and weopons possed by the goa;uld?

Alright guys, whens this thing gonna blow up (Start)

when you give me info about what you control and where I can find it. oh and the OP said theres teh gou'ld and the Free Jaffa (not that the borg really distingush) so you get the gou'ld as far as I know

but I'd say you get all the stuff the gou'ld had yes

okay do i give you list of the number of planets, thats going to be hard to do, so can i give you a list of planets that i know of to control, and if so how many.

okay do i give you list of the number of planets, thats going to be hard to do, so can i give you a list of planets that i know of to control, and if so how many.

Well we'll start in one system; and we'll hit it hard to get a foothold; so name a system and assest there really and whats close to it

im gonna be the first defence in the sg universe? so i will give you list the defeces, fleet strenght in the system, and worlds.

im gonna be the first defence in the sg universe? so i will give you list the defeces, fleet strenght in the system, and worlds.

First Defence....first to fall however you want to look at it :P

(okay, let me just dropp my pants bend over and prepare to get raped :( ) okay here it is, Hermes system, occopying minor Goa'uld: Hermes: # of planets, 3, fleet strenght 7 hatak's Anubis class and 30 alkesh(30 gliders per hatak) troop garrison on planets, 10,000 jaffa each.

(okay, let me just dropp my pants bend over and prepare to get raped :( ) okay here it is, Hermes system, occopying minor Goa'uld: Hermes: # of planets, 3, fleet strenght 7 hatak's Anubis class and 30 alkesh(30 gliders per hatak) troop garrison on planets, 10,000 jaffa each.

Anubis class; you meean the enhanced shield Ha'taks or the big Nuby Super capital ship that pwned the systemlords?

enhanced hataks, although there are going to be 3 classes, old hatak(weak) Apohpihs hatak(stealth but not quite as stron g as anubis) Anubids strongest.

, so wait can i get an idea of how many and what kinds of ships oyyu will be sending.

wow, i read the posts and im not getting many freinds out there, and by the way dont think you will just stomp me out with the borg, i have weopons at my desposale that would make the most assimlated borg start to question the collective.

As for me converting to orign, much more likey than assimilation but i wont probably unless im about to get killed, and i can still convert others into the goa'uld religions, just not as good as origin. o also can i have anubis half communicat with the ori and alterans, he did with daniel in the diner.

Just for my own clarification on my classification of Goa’uld “Ha’tak” class ships…

my classification system goes like this

Anubis class Command ship: Anubis’s big super ship with the “Eye of Ra” weapon or whatever it was called

Necropolis class: Apophis’s big ship that he uses to own Heru’ur in, and ends up losing to Replicators not long before his death

Ha’tak: general use for the standard Ha’tak seen, can be given enhanced shields or cloak…(should be stated when they have it…)

Cheops class: Ra’s Mothership…

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Also I know Necropolis hold 36 Gliders, and a standard Ha’tak will only carry 12(though more can come from the planet) Cheops can hold 2 Gliders and an unknown amount of ship to ship combat. And I am assuming Anubis class can carry 36 or so Gliders.

And you have command of the Jaffa as much as the Goa’uld did around the time of Apophis’s death(pretty much total)

But do to the shift in timeline it is quite possible for the Free Jaffa nation to be entered into this…

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Ship numbers for Stargate are very limited though…the only ever statement that could identify power of the Goa’uld fleet is that someone(I am thinking either Thor or Selmak/Jacob) stated that the System Lords could attack Earth with 100 times the power that Apophis used(being 2 Ha’taks) which only says that the System Lords alone have at least 200 Ha’tak….

As for the Wraith…there are only 60 known Hiveships, likely many more…and each can carry 3 Cruisers…but they can act alone to…

, so wait can i get an idea of how many and what kinds of ships oyyu will be sending.

Probably nothing more than 3-4 Cubes and a couple Sphere to start things off. I'm not going to summon up a million cubes right off the bat to stomp out one system; 4 cubes should be enough to get us a foot hold. I'll write up a decently long post in a big begiing my invasion..

curious; oocly speaking what weapons do you have that could make them question the collective?

quick! program the Dakara Superweapon!

strong but not gona make 'them' question the collective...and i'm not sure if the weapon should be allowed...

quick! program the Dakara Superweapon!

strong but not gona make 'them' question the collective...and i'm not sure if the weapon should be allowed...

I think the Dakara weapon could lead to a large amount of Godmodery; it was destroyed by the Ori after all..

I think the Dakara weapon could lead to a large amount of Godmodery; it was destroyed by the Ori after all..

indeed...thus i am not allowing it...

what if we weaken it, and also, that 2 ship attack was very old whta about baal and oall the others.

I think we have all the players that are going to sign up. When do you think the main thread will be up? Also I agree the Dakara Superweapon needs to remain destroyed. It is too godmoddish.

I am going to start off very small. A friar on a few Go'ald worlds (since they have gates), a Ori battleship at DS9 with Adria on board. Since the supergate has not been constructed yet, I would not imagine that a huge amount of ori ships will be in the sector yet. Maybe three at most. If you wish NC, one of my friars can be on one of the worlds trying to convert your populace to Origin when the borg show up. I will build up from there until I create the supergate and begin the invasion.

I think we have all the players that are going to sign up. When do you think the main thread will be up? Also I agree the Dakara Superweapon needs to remain destroyed. It is too godmoddish.

I am going to start off very small. A friar on a few Go'ald worlds (since they have gates), a Ori battleship at DS9 with Adria on board. If you wish NC, one of my friars can be on one of the worlds trying to convert your populace to Origin when the borg show up. I will build up from there until I create the supergate and begin the invasion.


DS9 could be a problem for you if the wormhole gods get involved.

DS9 could be a problem for you if the wormhole gods get involved.

I doubt they would, they did nothing to stop the dominion nor did the wormhole gods do anything to stop the Cardassians from wrecking Bejour. It would seem that they also have a non-interferance rule. I was also under the impression that ascended beings or gods would remain out of the thread, otherwise I would swarm the wormhole aliens with more beings of the same power than even they could handle. For the sake of simplicity lets leave the Q, The ascended beings and the Bajourn gods out of it.

I doubt they would, they did nothing to stop the dominion nor did the wormhole gods do anything to stop the Cardassians from wrecking Bejour. It would seem that they also have a non-interferance rule. I was also under the impression that ascended beings or gods would remain out of the thread, otherwise I would swarm the wormhole aliens with more beings of the same power than even they could handle. For the sake of simplicity lets leave the Q, The ascended beings and the Bajourn gods out of it.


Just jerking your chain :p

Just jerking your chain :p

phew :) Sorry too many players would have been serious about that comment, and I have not played with you before.

Besides why would you want to fight me, I have http://www.starpulse.com/Actresses/Baccarin,_Morena/index.html

Come on Sisko can not resist :)

Edit: Kirk would convert in a second :)

phew :) Sorry too many players would have been serious about that comment, and I have not played with you before.

Besides why would you want to fight me, I have http://www.starpulse.com/Actresses/Baccarin,_Morena/index.html

Come on Sisko can not resist :)

Edit: Kirk would convert in a second :)


Kirk did have a weakness for the ladies, and I'm sure Sisko would appreciate them as well. But they will not be the Federation officer/s that will head the rogue group I spoke of.

thread, otherwise I would swarm the wormhole aliens with more beings of the same power than even they could handle

the Ori wouldn't risk it! the Ancients would certainly help them Wormhole gods! but yeah...at least in the concept of combat and such things like the Ori and Ascended Ancients are not in this...though they might do as much as say, Daniel does for SG1 when he is ascended...well some of the ascended...

EDIT:

if anyone wants to start the RP thread at this time they can...i have an extream hate(and or maybe fear...) of making starting posts for some reason...

the Ori wouldn't risk it! the Ancients would certainly help them Wormhole gods! but yeah...at least in the concept of combat and such things like the Ori and Ascended Ancients are not in this...though they might do as much as say, Daniel does for SG1 when he is ascended...well some of the ascended...

EDIT:

if anyone wants to start the RP thread at this time they can...i have an extream hate(and or maybe fear...) of making starting posts for some reason...


The Author usually starts the IC Thread, but I'm sure someone would be glad to help out. I can't right now because I have to am attending my five yr old grand daughters birthday party this afternoon.

i'm well aware that the author usually starts the IC thread...

i suppose i could make it with something along the lines of "this is the IC thread for "___" if your intrested in joining, sign up here (link to this thread)

but then i need a name...or should i just call it "Stargate meets Star Trek"?

Forgive the delay I am still trying to create a good opening scene.

Forgive the delay I am still trying to create a good opening scene.

no problem :) I got my post ready for the green crusade when you get the OP up

Ok it is up.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12629793#post12629793

Pandora's box. I hope you all enjoy :)

i'm well aware that the author usually starts the IC thread...

i suppose i could make it with something along the lines of "this is the IC thread for "___" if your intrested in joining, sign up here (link to this thread)

but then i need a name...or should i just call it "Stargate meets Star Trek"?


how about this .... Stargate meets Star Trek / IC Thread / Members Only

Ok I'm back, I didn't mean what I said in a bad way Nebarri. Maybe we could start it out with SG1 accidentally landing on the UFP Earth. As I understand it, the SGC Earth and the UFP Earth are in the same solar system and the same orbit just oppposite of each other. In other words they might be on the opposite side of the sun from each other.

I already started it :D

I already started it :D


Cool ... I'll help if I can

Here is the link to it.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread....3#post12629793

I just hope that I did not screw up the Trek stuff too much. I know that the omega particle is illegal in the federation, yet you know how some parts of the federation do not always follow their own laws, at least until they are caught ;)

I already started it :D



I like the intro except for the use of the omega particle. That is not something the Federation would even consider normally. Which is probly why you used it knowing it was unstable .... right?
They might consider it if they were disparate enough I guess.

I like the intro except for the use of the omega particle. That is not something the Federation would even consider normally. Which is probly why you used it knowing it was unstable .... right?
They might consider it if they were disparate enough I guess.

Thank you I am glad you enjoyed it, and yes that was the very reason I used the Omega Particle. Also it had enough power to try to break the time barrier, if it had worked properly. I figured it was a good plot device. Also this way no one will have any idea what happened, and either we can work together to fix it or blow each other up. A great open ended story full of possibilites :)

its a beauty of a first post...i doubt i would have matched that...

Nebarri am I limited to using canon starships or can I make some up?

how should start mine. this is a lot to take in so maybe the defence of hermes.

how will anubis affect asceded beings, he will definatly be able to adapt some of the goa'uld to fight the borg and others.

Nebarri am I limited to using canon starships or can I make some up?

Canon please...but you could have some new form being developed...

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ooo its an Intrepid class...love the look, and aside from the small amount of torpedos its one of the best combat ships(perhaps thats just my opinion...)

Canon please...but you could have some new form being developed...

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ooo its an Intrepid class...love the look, and aside from the small amount of torpedos its one of the best combat ships(perhaps thats just my opinion...)


I thought I would start with a newly built Prometheus Class

here are some weopons that can scare Borg man

tooth bomb(cant remeber what it is called)
anubis superweopon
mind control pherimone
heart bomb
these are some that i might pull out. oh and what about my questions.

how will anubis affect asceded beings, he will definatly be able to adapt some of the goa'uld to fight the borg and others.

tooth bomb(cant remeber what it is called)
anubis superweopon
mind control pherimone
heart bomb
these are some that i might pull out. oh and what about my questions.

Research is your friend :) as the Gou'ld adapt so do the borg; the Anubus Super weapon is deffinetly something to consdier; not sure how effective the Mind control thing would be on the collective though taking into account borg physilogy; I'll leave that for the OP to decide and the Heart bomb only works if we use stargates. anyway enough OCC posturing from me time for me to make my IC Debut..the Green Crusade comes upon us all; fear the green glow.

OCC: Green crusade? borg?

i want to now how i should start this? with the defence of hermes? no doubt i will eventually have to rally the system lords under one banner, probably Anubis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HnDHntaunM

awsome video for the Ori.

OCC: Green crusade? borg?

i want to now how i should start this? with the defence of hermes? no doubt i will eventually have to rally the system lords under one banner, probably Anubis.

and the borg do like there green :) Posted

it is spelled Prior

it is spelled Prior

I like Friar better :) Seriously though thank you, I will correct my spelling.

ty, yes i played as the Ori in an oline game called stargate chaos gate wars.

ty, yes i played as the Ori in an oline game called stargate chaos gate wars.

oh cool, is it a texted or an actual video game. Is there also a link it sounds like fun

I need some background on the shield penetrating projectiles used by the Replicators before I can have the Intrepid respond.

I need some background on the shield penetrating projectiles used by the Replicators before I can have the Intrepid respond.

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Replicators

It is basically a ton of nanites that absorb enough energy from your shields to make a hole then land on your ship. Once they land on your ship they will begin to eat your ship at a very fast rate, and multiplying until your ship blows up.

Replicator weapons are really just the replicators themselves flying at you. They also love energy, hince why the asgard had such a bad time fighting them. KEW's are the best way to kill the replicators, hince why stargate command was so good at fighting them.

Your phasers will help them grow stronger, but your torpedoes should mess them up badly

ts fun at first and it is a text game, but it gets boring i became the best and i just quite, to easy to get billions of warriors.

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Replicators

It is basically a ton of nanites that absorb enough energy from your shields to make a hole then land on your ship. Once they land on your ship they will begin to eat your ship at a very fast rate, and multiplying until your ship blows up.

I don't think that is a canon replicator weapon is it? If it is, what is it's max range? And on what episode was it used?

I don't think that is a canon replicator weapon is it?

actually it is. THe replicator weapons really are jsut replicators, flying at your ship. Although your phasers will make them stronger, your torpedoes should mess them up.

That is why the Asgard, one of the most powerful races had to go to Stargate COmmand to kill the replicators. They are very vulnerable to KEW style weapons.

Max range is rarely discussed in Stargate, but maybe the OP will decide.

The goa'uld usally had a easy time with the asgard do to Anubis uprgrds to ships.

actually it is. THe replicator weapons really are jsut replicators, flying at your ship. Although your phasers will make them stronger, your torpedoes should mess them up.

That is why the Asgard, one of the most powerful races had to go to Stargate COmmand to kill the replicators. They are very vulnerable to KEW style weapons.

Max range is rarely discussed in Stargate, but maybe the OP will decide.


The weapon will have to be given a max range or else it could be construed as a possible godmod weapon.

The weapon will have to be given a max range or else it could be construed as a possible godmod weapon.

I completely agree. The Op should determine it.

By the way shouldnt the borg cube have taken heavy damage from the Anubis ships? I mean it would take a few minutes to adapt and they have a fast rate of fire. At least one borg cube should be heavily damaged, in my opinion.

The goa'uld usally had a easy time with the asgard do to Anubis uprgrds to ships.

well Anubis was an ascended being with the knowledge of the ancients/ori :)

The weapon will have to be given a max range or else it could be construed as a possible godmod weapon.

Consider it a rough range as maybe a little more than a Photon Torpedoe if that gives you better terms? Though the OP can decide and he's right about it being Cannon; it was used in ep when the Replicators escaped the Time Dialtion field/blackhole. they shot at the asgard O'Niel with it

The Cube is spinning to limit damage and the thing DWAFS the hat'aks; now a wraith Hive on the other hand would pound the living crap out of a single Cube one on one before the borg adapted. but loook how fast they adapted in Q Who when the Ent D first met the Borg? 2-3 phaser hits and they adapted; I can add more damage to it; but they have taken a fair bit on the one side hense the Regeneration command and why the cube is spinning

Consider it a rough range as maybe a little more than a Photon Torpedoe if that gives you better terms? Though the OP can decide and he's right about it being Cannon; it was used in ep when the Replicators escaped the Time Dialtion field/blackhole. they shot at the asgard O'Niel with it

The Cube is spinning to limit damage and the thing DWAFS the hat'aks; now a wraith Hive on the other hand would pound the living crap out of a single Cube one on one before the borg adapted. but loook how fast they adapted in Q Who when the Ent D first met the Borg? 2-3 phaser hits and they adapted

I was just trying to figure out what was happening :) Thank you for clarifying.

As odd as this will sound the best ship to beat the replicators with is an unshielded ship that uses Rail guns.

WIthout the energy from your shields they will burn their energy cells out. The more energy you put to your shields the more effective they become. A phaser rifle will make them stronger a tommi gun will kill them (kinda like the borg) :)

As odd as this will sound the best ship to beat the replicators with is an unshielded ship that uses Rail guns.

WIthout the energy from your shields they will burn their energy cells out. The more energy you put to your shields the more effective they become. A phaser rifle will make them stronger a tommi gun will kill them (kinda like the borg) :)


As you might have noticed the Interpids Captain ordered Security to use projectile weapons against the enemy.

As you might have noticed the Interpids Captain ordered Security to use projectile weapons against the enemy.

I did. I wonder why the federation does not remake M-16's, they seem to be much more effective against their enemies :) By the way DS9 has a heavily armed battleship hailing them.

i want to at least take out one cube before there is a foothold, 7 hatak should have the firepower to take out one un upgraded cube.

I did. I wonder why the federation does not remake M-16's, they seem to be much more effective against their enemies :) By the way DS9 has a heavily armed battleship hailing them.


I understand that but I work nights and have to be to work in about an hour. So I will post a response in the morning when I return .... I'm sorry.

Note: Firehelper you can't describe damage to the Interpid. Also you need to give me time to respond intelligently. Finally my security guys aren't using energy weapons as your # 11 post says, they are using old style projectile weapons .... you know .... machine guns, so you will need to rewrite your # 11 to reflect that.

I understand that but I work nights and have to be to work in about an hour. So I will post a response in the morning when I return .... I'm sorry.

Oh ok, I am sorry I did not know. I hope you have a good day at work, err night.

Oh ok, I am sorry I did not know. I hope you have a good day at work, err night.

Ok .... see you tomorrow morning

Consider it a rough range as maybe a little more than a Photon Torpedoe if that gives you better terms

sounds good...

oh, and it should perhaps be noted that Replicator ships can be destroyed by Energy weapons...otherwise i doubt the Asgard would last long at all...

sounds good...

oh, and it should perhaps be noted that Replicator ships can be destroyed by Energy weapons...otherwise i doubt the Asgard would last long at all...

so when are you coming in Nebarri? I am already getting a following ;)

For the sake of a good story, I purpose that we steer clear of each other first, you can warn of the evil ori, and I will warn of the evil altereans, then once the galaxy is divided between our propaganda, we can have a nice battle :)

works...


and i would probably have a post by now...but i share this computer with 4 sisters...

and im catching up on whats been said at the moment...then i will have to go... :/

should have a post in a few hours though

EDIT:

never mind, what i was leaving for seems to have been canceled

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep5ZK0tEtKw

great video of goa'uld ships and weps, i know it's ravers fantasy techno.

I prefer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HnDHntaunM&mode=related&search=

:)

there used to be a really cool go'auld one but i cant find any good ones anymoree.

i got 10 min left.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfvs5iRjbTA

I know i swear a frutiy person picked the song but the images are good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jEEsMLnlRQ

Voyager vs Hatak.

you know KE weapons really aren't that effective. In that one episode the repliactros were able to regenerate (as in the blocks moved and put them seves back togetehr.... though apperantly the producers didn't like that.... I do though) well one can always vaporise the nanites if you set a phaser high enough

you know KE weapons really aren't that effective. In that one episode the repliactros were able to regenerate (as in the blocks moved and put them seves back togetehr.... though apperantly the producers didn't like that.... I do though) well one can always vaporise the nanites if you set a phaser high enough

Yes but in about 90% of the episodes withte replicators in it, those P90's are really effective agaist them. I can go on you tube and show you clip after clip where the replicators are killed by the m and do not reform at all. (At least the block replicators that always end up covering the floor and chasing SG-1. The human version are a different story.

Well than they regressed into a worse state.... which for a computer is impossible.... blame it on the producers

Well than they regressed into a worse state.... which for a computer is impossible.... blame it on the producers

What, you mean a sci-fi show not being consistant about something...:confused: :D

EIther way the replicators can multiply very fast, and gain power from a lot of enrgy weapons. Let the kenetic weapons kill them. After all after the bullets hit one, you could easily make two more, just from eating the panels. besides only one bullet can hit one target, and you got a few hundred thousand replicator robot drones at this point. You are not in any danger of losing the battle on the interepid.

EDIT: By the way I think you are talking about the Ancient Replicators. THose were the only replicators that bullets and KEW's had no effect. The normal ones were stomped by bullets, porblem was there were never enough bullets to go around.

well, the Reps from the time diliation device in the 6th season had human reps...guns did nothing to them...

and IIRC the Replicators we first met reformed, then after a second shot couldnt reform...makes them a bit harder but not to much...

Nabarri how many ships is the Intrepid facing? I thought it was only one. Also I don't believe your ship can take nine photon torpedes and only be reduced to 60% shields.

well, the Reps from the time diliation device in the 6th season had human reps...guns did nothing to them...

and IIRC the Replicators we first met reformed, then after a second shot couldnt reform...makes them a bit harder but not to much...


SG1 uses military assault rifles against the Replicators very effectively

I agree they are used very effecively, except against human replicators.

By the way korm you got a TG.

I agree they are used very effecively, except against human replicators.

By the way korm you got a TG.


Ok so lets see what a matter / antimatter core breach will do .... I assume you know what the Picard Maneuver is.

three ships
I take each isoton to be one megaton and that would mean that photon torpedoes have a yield of 250 megatons. Goa'uld ships have 200 MT cannons and even they can stand up to many shots. Replicators have Asgard shielding, meaning that its fair enough to say 60% is a lot.
Also you are right about that two hit kill ting... unfortunately yes there aren't enough bullets for the ceiling, floor and walls with more replicators being created by the second.

Also even if energy weapons can kill a rep ship.... well theres one problem one rep (enhanced asgard) ship took out three asgard ships.... I doubt an intrepid class can do that.

Aye, Rep ships can take a bit to kill...

and an Enhanced Asgard ship will certainly be better then normal Asgard ships...


*pokes them Feds around Vulcan to do something about an unidentified 800-1,200m long ship that just dropped out of "Warp"(so far as they know it dropped out of warp...)

I need to withdraw my claim on the Romulan Star Empire. I will not be able to RP at a fast pace do to various RL issues that have just recently occurred. I apologize for the inconvenience....

I need to withdraw my claim on the Romulan Star Empire. I will not be able to RP at a fast pace do to various RL issues that have just recently occurred. I apologize for the inconvenience....

I am sorry to hear that, over all the thread is not moving fast anymore. It was just the excitement of a new thread. If you want you may post whenever you can. If you still desire to leave, then I hope to RP with you at another time.

Ok I reread it, sorry

I thought he said it destroyed one of his ships.



Yea it's his style of RPing that confused me. Not that its bad or anything I just had to reread it a couple of times.

....its hard to try and RP a computer you know what do you want me to do.... 0s and 1s?

....its hard to try and RP a computer you know what do you want me to do.... 0s and 1s?

That it is, I would not even attempt to do it, my hat's off to you for trying :)

It seems to me like, given the ways the shows work, the only real deciding factors would be SG-1, the Atlantis team, the Enterprise, and DS-9. Regardless of insane odds and massive wars, they are the deciding factors wherever they go, and any Gate v Trek scenario should take this into account. It may not be entirely realistic, but it IS sci-fi, and one of the basic rules of both universes seems to be that our heroes routinely change the fate of the galaxy........

....its hard to try and RP a computer you know what do you want me to do.... 0s and 1s?

Don't get me wrong you are doing a very good job, the fault was mine.

It seems to me like, given the ways the shows work, the only real deciding factors would be SG-1, the Atlantis team, the Enterprise, and DS-9. Regardless of insane odds and massive wars, they are the deciding factors wherever they go, and any Gate v Trek scenario should take this into account. It may not be entirely realistic, but it IS sci-fi, and one of the basic rules of both universes seems to be that our heroes routinely change the fate of the galaxy........

You can be sure that the Enterprise will become involved, but I also wanted to add some other old friends that are now in differant times of their lives. The ship that saved the crew of the Intrepid was the first, Seven of Nine now Captains her own starship that is named after her parents ship.

you know both the borg and replicators are based on nanites. Therefore a race from ST would find that the new race might be borg and vice versa (except for the ori because they haven't met us yet)

you know both the borg and replicators are based on nanites. Therefore a race from ST would find that the new race might be borg and vice versa (except for the ori because they haven't met us yet)

He would have except for Adria :)

...everyone tinks we are dead.... call us a new borg technology =)

now see... not even the disrutpor weapon can stop my new spread through the cosmos.... oh wait a sec it doesn't exist any more ((even if it did.... ill hold out on non gate planets))

ther Ori didnt know that Earth and such existed...why would they know about Replicators? if they found out about them while in the Milky Way they would think the Dakara weapon destroyed them all...

i think you statement said something about the Ori/Alteran split 10,000 years ago? thats the move from back to the Milky from the Peg...thousands+ yearr before then they moved to Peg...and millions of years they lived in Milky...millions before then they lived with the Ori as one...

anyway...i have to go again...a bit busy latly it seems...

and i still wait for Kormanthor to do something with the Aurora suddenly showing up in the Vulcan system...

and i think Atlantis will be located around the CU(then they can get to doing something maybe...)

ther Ori didnt know that Earth and such existed...why would they know about Replicators? if they found out about them while in the Milky Way they would think the Dakara weapon destroyed them all...

i think you statement said something about the Ori/Alteran split 10,000 years ago? thats the move from back to the Milky from the Peg...thousands+ yearr before then they moved to Peg...and millions of years they lived in Milky...millions before then they lived with the Ori as one...

There were ancient replicators :) Also the Ori once they came into the milkyway, and read the minds of the inhabitants (as Adria does frequently), they could get the memories of those that lived through the normal replicators. How often has Adria read Daniel Jackson mind? Samantha Carter? It is believable.

Not to mention it really is a minor detail. It is not like I told him how to beat them or anything.

I am also I got the timeline mixed up I will correct it.

im back and posted.

Goa'uld
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

here this will give you info on goa'uld and also look at the races Jaffa, Kull warriros, and the system lords at the bottom of the screen.

I prefer the title to the newspaper, Origin you know it is right convert :) Tell me when you get to one of my planets. Taking bets now one Friar vs a go'ald fleet. :)

lol, no way buddy, besides im coming for one of your planets and you will bow before your god!

lol, no way buddy, besides im coming for one of your planets and you will bow before your god!

Read my edited post. I am taking bets, a friar vs your fleet. ;) 5 to 1 odds in favor of the friar.

which post?