March of the Hatarian Empire (and all related threads) OOC - Page 2
Franberry
01-05-2007, 19:10
We tried to help you RP better, you would not listen. We honestly did try. And the majority here agrees. We think you are running cause you are losing.
Indeed
Wilhelmsborough
01-05-2007, 19:26
So you have autism huh? Do you expect that to completely absolve you of everything you've done here over the past three years?
Buddy, I have Aspergers Syndrome. So what? When I screw up, I don't pass the blame on to my condition. I accept the fault as my own. I take responsibility for my own actions. It's something that normal people do in the real world.
People (bosses, employers) will only laugh at you, not with you, if you blame your screw-ups on your condition. You're an autistic person living in a non-autistic planet. The world will not slow down in order to let you to catch up. It will keep on going, leaving you behind.
The only way that you can catch up is to admit that you are wrong. And when people give advice, listen to it. They only want to help you. Honestly.
But when you refuse to listen, and shut off your mind, sooner or later those helpful people are just going to walk away in disgust, just like everyone else on this board. And soon you are just standing by yourself, wondering what the hell went wrong.
So what are you going to do now, Hataria? Do you open up, accept responsibility for your situation, and join us in the real world, or do you build a wall around yourself, cutting yourself off from everyone?
Come now, friend. Do the right thing. Tear down the wall.
Carbandia
01-05-2007, 19:29
So you have autism huh? Do you expect that to completely absolve you of everything you've done here over the past three years?
Buddy, I have Aspergers Syndrome. So what? When I screw up, I don't pass the blame on to my condition. I accept the fault as my own. I take responsibility for my own actions. It's something that normal people do in the real world.
People (bosses, employers) will only laugh at you, not with you, if you blame your screw-ups on your condition. You're an autistic person living in a non-autistic planet. The world will not slow down in order to let you to catch up. It will keep on going, leaving you behind.
The only way that you can catch up is to admit that you are wrong. And when people give advice, listen to it. They only want to help you. Honestly.
But when you refuse to listen, and shut off your mind, sooner or later those helpful people are just going to walk away in disgust, just like everyone else on this board. And soon you are just standing by yourself, wondering what the hell went wrong.
So what are you going to do now, Hataria? Do you open up, accept responsibility for your situation, and join us in the real world, or do you build a wall around yourself, cutting yourself off from everyone?
Come now, friend. Do the right thing. Tear down the wall.
Good advice..
And, ironically, I have that syndrome myself..(and this is almost certainly the first time anyone on here has heard me say that)
Frisbeeteria
01-05-2007, 19:32
Are you calling me a lier? How about I tell The Whole Fourm but why I am doing this. You Bullying, Trolling and Flameing of a Autistic person to gte of The site. and lets not forget I have three sisters, one of which was a Member of NAMI of MSSU, and has a Web site about Mental Problems so I hope the people on Jolt likes to be Internationaly known as BIGOTS!
Hataria, you seem to be under the impression that people are required to like you, regardless of your actions or activities. The fact is, you are the one who is failing to follow NationStates accepted practices, and you've been here long enough and been linked often enough to know that. You don't get an automatic free ride because you claim to be autistic.
The next such outburst will see you forumbanned for a week. Knock it off, NOW.
Kahanistan
01-05-2007, 20:17
I think there are half a dozen or so people on the NS forums with Asperger's syndrome.
The bullies may seem like a lot when it's happening to you, but the bigots here are actually a fairly small, vocal minority. Most of us are actually quite nice if you bother to RP with us. I've lost every war I've gotten into, it's a miracle I'm still standing. You can talk to me on MSN when I'm on, my info is in my profile.
If you want IC for people to stop declaring war on you at random, you might want to try not being so imperialistic. If the declarations keep coming then the ones making them are the ones who are just interested in making NS less fun for you.
The PeoplesFreedom
01-05-2007, 20:20
Are you calling me a lier? How about I tell The Whole Fourm but why I am doing this. You Bullying, Trolling and Flameing of a Autistic person to gte of The site. and lets not forget I have three sisters, one of which was a Member of NAMI of MSSU, and has a Web site about Mental Problems so I hope the people on Jolt likes to be Internationaly known as BIGOTS!
I never called you a liar. Nor am I a bigot. I have a disbility, too. It is not a mental one, but it is a physical one.
Amazonian Beasts
02-05-2007, 00:40
Are you calling me a lier? How about I tell The Whole Fourm but why I am doing this. You Bullying, Trolling and Flameing of a Autistic person to gte of The site. and lets not forget I have three sisters, one of which was a Member of NAMI of MSSU, and has a Web site about Mental Problems so I hope the people on Jolt likes to be Internationaly known as BIGOTS!
Say, would you be one of those people who hates the majority, then-because you've been hating on us. Cause then I can accuse you of being biased against my kind.
Don't bring up that card, Hataria, or I can strike back tenfold like it.
There are plenty more disabled people besides you. We all have our faults. This is a dynamic world, not a static one. Learn and change, rather than trying to stick to your guns every single time-because I guarentee you that not everyone's going to listen as kindly as we have. We've tried everything we can to make this RP enjoyable for you and us. We have RPed within every parameter and responded in reasonable actions. Yet you still can't even handle that.
I'm not sure you're ready to handle this scale of RPing, then-because, as far as RPs go, we've been great OOCly.
Demon 666
02-05-2007, 01:05
Are you calling me a lier? How about I tell The Whole Fourm but why I am doing this. You Bullying, Trolling and Flameing of a Autistic person to gte of The site. and lets not forget I have three sisters, one of which was a Member of NAMI of MSSU, and has a Web site about Mental Problems so I hope the people on Jolt likes to be Internationaly known as BIGOTS!
You know what, Hataria? I think you are lying. Plain and simple.
Do you even have an INKling of why I'm pissed off at you? Do you?
Go back to the original thread and make the second page. I knew this would be another dogpile. Everyone knew it, except it seems you. Now why would there be a dogpile?
PERHAPS YOU ATTACKED A RANDOM COUNTRY FOR NO FUCKING REASON AND YOU'VE DONE THAT BEFORE, HOW ABOUT THAT!!!
Perhaps if you didn't fucking run amok and try to fight every damn country, then you wouldn't be losing and we wouldn't be carving up your fucking empire.
You didn't even give me a damn warning, Hataria. It's just one day I get a fucking telegram saying "I declare war on you." First damn time I knew of that.
And as for the others: 40,000 missiles fired at you destroy 10 destroyers, while you get uber-railguns on submarines that are as large as battleships. Bases on the goddamn fucking moon. And you fighting 8 countries, 5 which are almost as large as you, and for a while you were winning. What the hell?
If you're going to run around attacking every fucking country, then goddamnit, don't get surprised when those countries get pissed off and blow the shit out of you.
And don't play that autism crap. There's plenty of more people more disablled than you- and you only play this card when you're getting your ass killed. This sin't the first fucking time when you play that "Oh noes I got the autism!" when you start losing.
Hataria, I'm not sorry you left MT at all. That's the truth, so have fun in FT, and I pity the FT countries.
You know what, Hataria? I think you are lying. Plain and simple.
Do you even have an INKling of why I'm pissed off at you? Do you?
Go back to the original thread and make the second page. I knew this would be another dogpile. Everyone knew it, except it seems you. Now why would there be a dogpile?
PERHAPS YOU ATTACKED A RANDOM COUNTRY FOR NO FUCKING REASON AND YOU'VE DONE THAT BEFORE, HOW ABOUT THAT!!!
Perhaps if you didn't fucking run amok and try to fight every damn country, then you wouldn't be losing and we wouldn't be carving up your fucking empire.
You didn't even give me a damn warning, Hataria. It's just one day I get a fucking telegram saying "I declare war on you." First damn time I knew of that.
And as for the others: 40,000 missiles fired at you destroy 10 destroyers, while you get uber-railguns on submarines that are as large as battleships. Bases on the goddamn fucking moon. And you fighting 8 countries, 5 which are almost as large as you, and for a while you were winning. What the hell?
If you're going to run around attacking every fucking country, then goddamnit, don't get surprised when those countries get pissed off and blow the shit out of you.
And don't play that autism crap. There's plenty of more people more disablled than you- and you only play this card when you're getting your ass killed. This sin't the first fucking time when you play that "Oh noes I got the autism!" when you start losing.
Hataria, I'm not sorry you left MT at all. That's the truth, so have fun in FT, and I pity the FT countries.
I can see your points here, but please try to calm down. We don't need both you and Hataria e-screaming at each other, it won't get this overwith any faster.
The allied states of cazelia declare full scale war on Hataria
and ALL of its allies.(axis nova,maldorians ect.)
and we are devoting 100 million troops (Marines,navy,army,airforce)
our current pop is 400 million and we are the second largest nation
in the region (cazelia)
The PeoplesFreedom
02-05-2007, 04:46
The allied states of cazelia declare full scale war on Hataria
and ALL of its allies.(axis nova,maldorians ect.)
and we are devoting 100 million troops (Marines,navy,army,airforce)
our current pop is 400 million and we are the second largest nation
in the region (cazelia)
This is now over.
The allied states of cazelia declare full scale war on Hataria
and ALL of its allies.(axis nova,maldorians ect.)
and we are devoting 100 million troops (Marines,navy,army,airforce)
our current pop is 400 million and we are the second largest nation
in the region (cazelia)
Two things:
One, this conflict is over, you're about a month late.
Two, you have 25% of your population in your military? That's slightly ridiculous. Your economy would be shot to hell. 2% is much more realistic.
Hurtful Thoughts
02-05-2007, 05:40
You didn't even give me a damn warning, Hataria. It's just one day I get a fucking telegram saying "I declare war on you." First damn time I knew of that.
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And don't play that autism crap. There's plenty of more people more disablled than you- and you only play this card when you're getting your ass killed. This sin't the first fucking time when you play that "Oh noes I got the autism!" when you start losing.
Well, he did have reason, mostly because of the mounting tensions between GASN and CA, to the point that a simple OOC drill almost turned into an IC war (See: first aborted CA/GASN war), Hataria didn't get the memo that it was to be cold war/it was just a contingency plan, for some reason.
Hataria later asked members of GASN to assist in his front, assuming a full state of war between CA and GASN existed. Due to the fact that all military actions against CA at that time were frowned upon, when things became ugly and Hataria was forced upon the defensive, things went from bad to worse.
Around this time, New Ausha defected from the CA, and his former comrads decided to assault TWSP and New Ausha*, all GASN members were asked to take part, guess were Hataria was? He was over-extended. And in fact, was getting pretty badly mauled on his front (at least from his POV).
The high council of GASN thought that Hataria was being a warmonger, and had joined GASN as a shield as it went on its own conquests. Bad timing of this because GASN was starting its crackdown on 'loose cannons' + 'slackers' and they needed an unpopular scapegoat to 'make an example of'. Guess who won?*
A short vote came out questioning what was to be done about Hataria at that time, some wanted to help the CA in glassing him, in an effort to weed their way inside and rot it out later. Others wanted to just let the issue go with the minimum of fuss and discretely let him go. A few elected to just let the CA run over him and see what happened from there.
The end decision was to publicly eject him. It was a compromise nobody really liked, but those tasked with punishing Hataria were satisfied and those tasked with infroming Hataria could live with that knowledge. The same could be said for the decision to drop Dephire.
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As for the autism thing, it depends on what degree of autism, and what particular traits are exhibited.
You have your 'high functioning' Aspherger's Syndrome forms, such as myself***, to the stereotypical 'severe autism' of Retts syndrome, in which almost every trait of autism is manifest.
(Autism is rated in degree of severity by the number of traits observed on a given patient, the minimum number is about 4)
Indifferent to the feelings of others; Indiscriminate social interaction; Brief response to questions; Gullibility; Difficulty translating thoughts into words;
Poor use and understanding of nonverbal communication; When being questioned, may have a delayed reaction; Perseverative interest (tunnel vision).
A blanket statement.
(I wonder what would happen if three people would have to share a nation account)
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*TWSP was also assualted without consent, plus there was a near-war that occured that happened with neither side wanting to actually go to war after a rather bad case of friendly fire occured. So wars without warning was all the rage back then.
**It was either Me, Clandonia Prime, Dephire, Hataria and a few others... Clandonia and Dephire were ejected shortly after for other reasons. I was saved by a rather spur of the moment farewell speech and a last second vote (literally, it was down to the last second, I thought I was going to be ejected as well for a good 6 hours)...
***Though I do not like being catagorized as Autistic, as I do not wish to be given welfare, which in itself, is one of the traits, while at the same time, my autism is not severe enough to warrant welfare in the first place. In which brings back the question of why they bothered to label me if they can't and won't do anything about it?
Edit: Am I the only person who actually bothered to research Hataria's history before posting?Such as that he is in the same region as Euroslavia...
The PeoplesFreedom
02-05-2007, 05:46
OCC: I also left GASN because I thought they were taking too soft of an approach on the CA
Clandonia Prime
02-05-2007, 07:40
OOC: I was never in the GASN, don't tarnish my name! :p
Note: When this restarts, if ever, I will be joining in Hataria's support.
Amazonian Beasts
03-05-2007, 03:05
Sorry, but Hataria says he's out of MT/PMT. I don't think this will restart any time soon.