Rebellion against the Sith [FT, Open to all] - Page 2
Balrogga
23-04-2007, 16:14
This Thread has become the OOC Thread for the Phantom Invasion. If you want into that you will have to contact Unified Sith.
Chronosia
23-04-2007, 16:16
OOC:
Hi guys I'm back lol. Just a quick check i'm on the Imperial side...
IC:
The Imperial 1st Battle Armada emerged out of hyperspace. Centered around the Tyrant Class Super Star Destroyer in a huge wedge formation, the capital ships, medium ships, light ships and support craft of the armada began to take up defensive positions as a burst transmission was sent towards the Imperial Fleet's flagship, to Lord Sidious himself.
"Lord Sidious, your servant Matter is here to join the great Imperial crusade to vanquish all who oppose us. Your orders my lord?"
As the armada waited for the orders to come in from the warmaster or the emperor himself, they began charging up their weaponary and shields as millions of Imperial stormtroopers spread throughout the armada began to prepare for battle...
This thread is functionally dead. It's now the OOC thread. We need you in that other thread you had, attacking Phenixica :P
Mationbuds
23-04-2007, 16:27
This thread is functionally dead. It's now the OOC thread. We need you in that other thread you had, attacking Phenixica :P
Haha I'll go revive it tommorow. Will start TGing the parties involved =P
Wanderjar
23-04-2007, 16:27
OOC: @CG: You were firing at me, but I destroyed the MACs after you engaged my fleet several weeks ago. (I targetted them with a shit load of ISDs and numerous other ships in my fleet). I don't recall whether you took damage or not, but I sure pounded the hell out of them.
Communistic Govts
23-04-2007, 16:34
No you engaged my refugees. So i had my fleet engage yours to buy them time. I do not recall an attack on my MAC cannons. Anyways a MAC cannon can easily tear through a star destroyer. Regardless of shielding.
Communistic Govts
23-04-2007, 16:40
alrite about damn time too i was getting bored.
Wanderjar
23-04-2007, 16:41
No you engaged my refugees. So i had my fleet engage yours to buy them time. I do not recall an attack on my MAC cannons. Anyways a MAC cannon can easily tear through a star destroyer. Regardless of shielding.
OOC: I thought you said the MAC cannons were firing on me. Eh screw it, lets just have a space battle. Then if I win, there will be an invasion. Sound good bro?
Chronosia
23-04-2007, 16:45
Assuming of course that it's in range. You're also talking about stationary guns versus a mobile fleet as well as the fact that the entire fleet is concentrating its firepower.
In the end, when it comes down to quantity versus quality, then you have the situation where we're going to be pounding down on you regardless of what you do, with focussed fire and overlapping arcs of fire to better frustrate, stymie and ultimately destroy your orbital defences.
I personally couldn't care less. Space combats just the getting rid of irritable defences so we can get down to the important stuff, i.e ground war and character exposition, rather than the boring, tedious and inevitable phallic duelling of space combat.
Wanderjar
23-04-2007, 16:49
Assuming of course that it's in range. You're also talking about stationary guns versus a mobile fleet as well as the fact that the entire fleet is concentrating its firepower.
In the end, when it comes down to quantity versus quality, then you have the situation where we're going to be pounding down on you regardless of what you do, with focussed fire and overlapping arcs of fire to better frustrate, stymie and ultimately destroy your orbital defences.
I personally couldn't care less. Space combats just the getting rid of irritable defences so we can get down to the important stuff, i.e ground war and character exposition, rather than the boring, tedious and inevitable phallic duelling of space combat.
Aye mate, I'm an infantryman myself, and love nothing better than a good ground war :)
Naval duelling, while exciting at times, can become rather....tedious.
Since there is little I can do right now, my fleet is basically hanging around where we were once we destroyed the Kraeton fleet. More or less, you'll have to come out and attack us. If you would be so kind, please do this so we can get to the fighting ;)
Communistic Govts
23-04-2007, 17:11
All i have is my orbital defenses a small destroyer flotilla and a few starfighter squadrons. The rest is at the relocation site with my refugees.
Wanderjar
23-04-2007, 18:13
All i have is my orbital defenses a small destroyer flotilla and a few starfighter squadrons. The rest is at the relocation site with my refugees.
Alright then, I'll begin my assault. I trust you have soldiers on the ground for me to fight?
Communistic Govts
23-04-2007, 19:39
Close to 5 million soldiers are entrenched on the planet. Im using WW2 - low level FT tech weapons.
Chronosia
24-04-2007, 15:18
You ought to be taking damage from the fact that my fighters and bombardment was specifically targetting your aerial and orbital defences, before you even think of having those same defences attack us. Not only that but any amount of massed bombardment, including the equivalent of bunker busting ordinance ought to really be having an effect on your underground facilities. I can understand that you really really love your nation, but all the over the top one sided rhetoric can be a tad annoying.
Not only that but the whole Riddick thing....The underwater bases, I honestly wonder how much of this planet you've actually got solid details for and what you randomly concoct as we go along.
As far as I was concerned we had orbital superiority, and are now attacking both your defences and your forces with massed bombardment, to blow holes in your defensive cover so we can properly land. You don't seem to be paying attention to what people post, Asfaltum, and I would ask that you try and pay decent attention to others in this thread, before they get annoyed.
Communistic Govts
24-04-2007, 17:45
Asfaltum please get an IM I am tired of the randomness of your posts
Orthodox Gnosticism
24-04-2007, 20:48
Although I do think that having Riddick seems a bit random, I personally do not care. After all we all have our heroes, and our villians. CW has Daniel, I have Admiral Cain, US has Darth Sidious and Vader, the list goes on. Besides Riddick is not that great of a hero. A simple laser or bullet to the head and he is gone. What hope does Riddick actually have of beating a sith lord, let alone an entire convention of them? Even one of Chrono's lowly space marines in that capitol ship armor has a great chance of taking down Riddick. We should give Asfaltum a break on that. He wants and needs a hero, and he should have one.
As for the underwater bases, I am truly puzzled by the desire for them. The water can not hold back orbital bombardments, and the shields you must have to keep the water back must cause enormous power strains. Not to mention if the shield is bombed enough, it will fail allowing several megatons of water to crash on your base destroying it with minimum effort, including the thousands neccessary to upkeep 1000 fighters. Hell a few Ion cannon shots can penetrate the water and cause it's destruction. The underground bases make more sense, but yet again in MT there are bunker buster stuff. How much more powerful will it be in FT? Besides the underground structures can not be shielded. As such just make the top of the base collapse and boom the base is destroyed again, with little effort as FT goes. His stuff would prove challenging if it was MT, but for FT, it is quite easy to incapacitate.
Over all though this randomness is not really relevant. I am sorry to say but it seems it will hurt him more than aid. So please give Asfaltum a break, for the sake of the story.
Balrogga
24-04-2007, 21:39
While you do raise several true points you forgot to take into account that Riddick was seemingly brought into the RP as a spur of the moment merc unit. It seems (and if I am wrong I will apologize for this) that his involvement was thought up over break and almost solely for bringing in those 10,000 ships.
That is the only thing I wished to add to your post.
Otherwise, I agree we all do need hero units. Using them changes the RP from an exchange of stats (BORING) into a story with characters and storyline (INTERESTING).
CoreWorlds
24-04-2007, 22:09
Asfaltum please get an IM I am tired of the randomness of your posts
I second this policy and/or endorsement.
Trailers
24-04-2007, 23:27
OOC: This shit still open? I feel like pissing off Chrono with the whole ESUS cunundrum. :P
Asfaltum
25-04-2007, 07:21
What's an IM? Also, I think this whole thing is a missunderstanding. I build my bases underground, not because I want them to withstand tons of orbital bombardment without even sweating, but because I don't want them to be discovered in the first place. Prevention, right? I mean, their main focus is avoiding detection... I may not know much about FT, but could we just assume that the few underground bases I have which are located several kilometers under the earth or sea, are not visible to spaceships stationed in planetary orbit... that's why I wasn't posting losses on them, because I took for granted that you had no idea where they were, just as you take for granted that you know every single centimeter of my planet like the back of your hand. Now considering that this is my home-turf, I think we have a slight conflict of interest, because I have difficulties letting the enemy decide what they know or don't know about my military installations, especially when they pretend to know the exact locations of underground installations which were designed to avoid detection, and which nobody (including the majority of my own citizens) have ever seen before.
As for Riddick, I'm sorry if I made it look as if I thought him up in that moment... I just haven't RPd in so many threads before, so my nation isn't so clear for the outsider...
Balrogga
25-04-2007, 09:23
The idea that your bases could not be detected by sensors while underground can be proven wrong using technology put into orbit in 1972.
If you search the internet for data on the application of the Landsat System of satellites http://landsat.gsfc.nasa.gov/ (http://landsat.gsfc.nasa.gov/) you will see about 35 years ago NASA and the US Geological Service started putting up the system of sensors that you claimed the FT nations would not possess to enable them to see your bases underground.
http://rst.gsfc.nasa.gov/Front/tofc.html
Today the field is called Remote Sensing and if you Google it (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=remote+sensing) you will find alot on the subject, even online cources you can take to learn how to use the technology such as this one offered at: Academic Course Online by John Althausen, at Department of Geography, Central Michigan University http://www.earthsensing.com/drs/
The whole field of Remote Sensing has been used for decades to locate oil deposits as far as 6000 meters underground by combining satellite imagery and ground vibrations. http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM1MCO3E4E_Protecting_0.html
As far as creating the vibrations mentioned in the article, there are orbital bombardments going on. Sensors can detect the vibrations from orbit if they can detect the presence of a ship from a great distance away. That would satisfy the need to cause the ground to vibrate and the detection of the way the vibrations travel through the ground. If you comment that you are beneath the 6000 meter mark, recently scientists have examined the Core of Earth and determined it is hotter than the surface of the sun. They went a lot deeper than any base could be.
As the vibrations travel through the ground, the solid walls of your base would show up as well as the empty space (air). They also have used satellite imagery to locate the details of ancient cities long buried by radar mapping from orbit http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2006-04/2006-04-26-voa63.cfm?CFID=64509614&CFTOKEN=50782857 to even the trail taken by Lewis and Clark http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/lewis_clark_121223.html (http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/lewis_clark_121223.html)). If you want to know how close you can see things, check out Google Earth http://earth.google.com/ and see if you can find your roof. I bet you can. Just think, those are not military images being used either...
Even with our primitive technology of today, we can determine networks of caves with football field sized openings on Mars http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/070402_mm_mars_caves.html and compare them with ones we have on Earth to determine the correct process to explore them. We can check physically with the ones they are using in New Mexico and Arizona to see what the thermal imaging shows so when they look at the Seven Sisters on Mars they know what to look for.
As far as your bases being immune to being hit, you have to get your forces out somehow and large openings needed for the launching and landing of aircraft would be seen. The surface roads would lead to openings where the supplies are brought into the base. You have to have a moving air supply because CO2 is heavier than O2 and you would suffocate in your own breath, not to mention the Radon emissions. The discharge vents would be an obvious target. I am assuming all natural radioactive elements would have been removed and made safe. If they hit the openings, then your people are trapped underground and are doomed to suffocate, be buried, or both. Your rock shield may hinder you more than it will help.
Now, don’t take this personally or as me telling you what you can and cannot do. I am only trying to point out some errors or possibly unknown details you might not have been made aware of, especially in the current detection systems that could be used to locate your base.
Finally, to answer your question of what an “IM” is, follow one of these two links:
http://get.live.com/messenger/overview
http://messenger.yahoo.com/
Unified Sith
25-04-2007, 10:10
OOC: This shit still open? I feel like pissing off Chrono with the whole ESUS cunundrum. :P
Closed - Threads nearing its end.
Chronosia
25-04-2007, 12:58
What's an IM? Also, I think this whole thing is a missunderstanding. I build my bases underground, not because I want them to withstand tons of orbital bombardment without even sweating, but because I don't want them to be discovered in the first place. Prevention, right? I mean, their main focus is avoiding detection... I may not know much about FT, but could we just assume that the few underground bases I have which are located several kilometers under the earth or sea, are not visible to spaceships stationed in planetary orbit... that's why I wasn't posting losses on them, because I took for granted that you had no idea where they were, just as you take for granted that you know every single centimeter of my planet like the back of your hand. Now considering that this is my home-turf, I think we have a slight conflict of interest, because I have difficulties letting the enemy decide what they know or don't know about my military installations, especially when they pretend to know the exact locations of underground installations which were designed to avoid detection, and which nobody (including the majority of my own citizens) have ever seen before.
As for Riddick, I'm sorry if I made it look as if I thought him up in that moment... I just haven't RPd in so many threads before, so my nation isn't so clear for the outsider...
Was talking more about the losses attributed to the fact that I'm bobmarding the hell, not only out of your planet and crust, but also the fact that I've been pounding your defences in the air/space/whatever as well as sending fighters at 'em, so I can open up a way in for me.
As I see it, you were horribly generalizing all attacks on you and not actually paying attention to any detail whatsoever. I couldn't care less about what feature you pull into this next, I honestly couldn't at this point, what I do care about is you responding to what I actually do.
I'm hammering your planet to complicate things for you, to collapse bunkers that are inevitably there, to ruin cities and make fighting and defence tougher on you, to soften you up before I let loose my hordes (Who will not go easy on you, I assure you.)
You're going to be pounded by relentless bombardment, hunted by bloodthirsty warbands of Khornate Astartes Super warriors, and hammered with every plague and pestilance that Nurgle's chosen can throw at you.
Now, lets move on. To actual ground combat, so you can stop stalling with silly little gripes about irrelevant underground bases or orbital defences that I'm already attacking (which is among many reasons I signalled a bombardment) before I start thinking Cyclonic Torpedoes :D
I understand you may be a bit new to all of this, but really, try and be more forthcoming with losses where they should be, and paying just a little more attention to what others post. That's whats annoying me.
Orthodox Gnosticism
25-04-2007, 14:20
Sith you got a tg
Edoniakistanbabweagua
01-05-2007, 16:25
Sorry I havent been able to post, but because of finals, work, and some family issues, I am going to have to withdraw completly from the RP. Wish I could stay and see what happens, but Ill be back someday. Maybe I can jump in later into the thread again. Just to keep with the flow of things, I need someone on my side to just RP my character leaving the ship and going back to the planet of Kraetons. Thanks. I shall return.
Balrogga
01-05-2007, 21:19
I'll add something about that after I get home from work tonight.
Hurry back after you take care of RL stuff.
Asfaltum
02-05-2007, 11:39
Hi guys! I've been inactive for a while but I'm back... for how long, I don't know. The fact is, RL is insanely busy, we got all kinds of test coming up (like, 3 per week) and I really don't have time for internet. Thus, I'll try to post something as soon as I can, trying to bring my involvement in this to an end as soon as possible. My posting may be irregular, and I know I might have forgotten to respond to some of you guys, but there isn't really much I can do about that. Chron, I'm not really sure where your troops are landing. Maybe you could give me an overview, like Thrasia did. I would greatly appreciate that. In general, you can just RP my forces as slowly giving way to enemy forces, until I RP a counter-attack, that is.
Unified Sith
02-05-2007, 18:31
Hi guys! I've been inactive for a while but I'm back... for how long, I don't know. The fact is, RL is insanely busy, we got all kinds of test coming up (like, 3 per week) and I really don't have time for internet. Thus, I'll try to post something as soon as I can, trying to bring my involvement in this to an end as soon as possible. My posting may be irregular, and I know I might have forgotten to respond to some of you guys, but there isn't really much I can do about that. Chron, I'm not really sure where your troops are landing. Maybe you could give me an overview, like Thrasia did. I would greatly appreciate that. In general, you can just RP my forces as slowly giving way to enemy forces, until I RP a counter-attack, that is.
I think I can field this for Chronosia - He will more than likely be landing.... Everywhere - primarily in your capital city. Drop pods will be smashing down in all quarters, mechs and tanks likewise. While in the meantime he is bombarding everywhere without care for friendly fire.... Not to say that he's not limiting it.
Chronosia
02-05-2007, 19:30
Primarily in the North. I could swear I posted that, maybe you just weren't reading it...*shrug* That is, of course, coupled with what Sith said. I'm hammering you, and not caring who I hurt, everyone else under my command (Which is everyone) are doing the same.
We're also coordinating with the Thrashians to pincer you.
Asfaltum
03-05-2007, 08:24
Aha, I see... basically you're using the chaos tactic... and yes, I know you might have posted that earlier, but as I said before, I really got a lot to hold unto at the moment... I'm liable to forget things...
Orthodox Gnosticism
09-05-2007, 14:14
I was just curious, are we waiting on someone for the thread? There seems to be a nice lull this week.
Chronosia
09-05-2007, 15:09
Asfaltum.
Unified Sith
09-05-2007, 17:27
And Coreworlds, of he does not post soon Im going ot have to well, move things along.
I think he has exams, so I will wait till I get some form of answer from him. That or he is in hospital.
Thrashia
10-05-2007, 03:30
I'm giving (for the present) control of my armies to Chronosia (as he is Imperial Warmaster and Sith has other things going on). My apologies for not being more active, but things are coming to a tight thing in RL.
Asfaltum
11-05-2007, 14:36
Ok, I might not have internet access on the weekend, but I'm absolutely positive that I'll have a response next week. Besides, the fleet battle doesn't need my presence, and neither does the Emperor (Riddick is just hiding around waiting to make his move, if you want, you can RP all the lights going off in the cave network, since his first action will be to plant a remote-controlled explosive on the main power-cable leading into the cave...) Chronosia, you can respond to my fighters attacking(destroying) Thrashias forces... post #253...
Chronosia
11-05-2007, 15:02
We'll see.
I'll have to talk to Thrashia about that since he never asked me directly before assuming I would. I have no conception of how to RP as him, nor the faintest desire to.
What I want to do is get on with my part in crushing you.
Thrashia
12-05-2007, 04:48
Ow, that hurts.
Anyway, you don't have to worry about it Chron. @ Evrybody: I won't be posting until Monday, maybe Sunday, but most likely Monday.
Kharan-Serenno
12-05-2007, 04:54
To: Whomever it may concern
While the Allied States of Kharan-Serenno must express a certain innate dislike for the Republic and Jedi Order, we would be untruthful if not to express a similar dislike for the Sith after their betrayal at the end of the Clone Wars. As always we hold true to the CIS's virtues of liberty and individual governments to worlds and pledge our support to fight against this oppression of the Sith so long as we do not need directly fight alongside Clones, troops directly loyal to the Republic, or most distasteful of all... Jedi.
Vidok e'Baliin!
Most sincerely,
~Supreme Leaders Ragoris Sirava and Lagia Sunari~
Chronosia
12-05-2007, 14:04
To: Whomever it may concern
While the Allied States of Kharan-Serenno must express a certain innate dislike for the Republic and Jedi Order, we would be untruthful if not to express a similar dislike for the Sith after their betrayal at the end of the Clone Wars. As always we hold true to the CIS's virtues of liberty and individual governments to worlds and pledge our support to fight against this oppression of the Sith so long as we do not need directly fight alongside Clones, troops directly loyal to the Republic, or most distasteful of all... Jedi.
Vidok e'Baliin!
Most sincerely,
~Supreme Leaders Ragoris Sirava and Lagia Sunari~
This is now an OOC thread and the subsequent IC thread is closed.
Chronosia
12-05-2007, 14:05
Ow, that hurts.
Anyway, you don't have to worry about it Chron. @ Evrybody: I won't be posting until Monday, maybe Sunday, but most likely Monday.
It wasn't meant to hurt, I just have alot on my plate, including exams.
Thrashia
12-05-2007, 14:24
It wasn't meant to hurt, I just have alot on my plate, including exams.
:D I know, just taking you on a guilt trip. I just finished the first half of my exams. :headbang:
Orthodox Gnosticism
21-05-2007, 13:31
I am very glad you are back ASfaltum. BTW you are not a collaberator huh... :) I am just playing man. Seriously though welcome back.
Asfaltum
22-05-2007, 07:44
I got 4 tests this week... I don't know if I'll be able to post anything that long again... hopefully I can keep myself short but still be around...
Asfaltum
24-05-2007, 08:16
Bumping IC thread...
Chronosia
24-05-2007, 15:16
You've got a cheek :P
Copenhaghenkoffenlaugh
24-05-2007, 15:29
((*happens to walk in by chance, looks around, and then runs away, screaming in terror...for absolutely no reason...*))
Orthodox Gnosticism
24-05-2007, 15:37
Copen, I love your signature of how you envision Chrono :)
Balrogga
24-05-2007, 21:11
I just posted something to get those on the ground into the tunnel.
Orthodox Gnosticism
24-05-2007, 21:28
Great post balrooga. I will respond as soon as I can get a good picture of what my forces will be doing, besides being in awe of the Empires' massive military machine.
Asfaltum
28-05-2007, 07:57
I love your post Thrashia, even though it's a bit out of context. (If you read post #299 on page 20, maybe you'll understand...) Maybe you could RP something really weird happening, like you troops being welcomed as heroes, and all the the opposition stopping and people throwing flowers at you etc, and your troopers go like: "Whoo man, we didn't know there were so many people left in here... imagine if they would still have been hostile..."
Just an advice... :)
Thrashia
30-05-2007, 00:35
I love your post Thrashia, even though it's a bit out of context. (If you read post #299 on page 20, maybe you'll understand...) Maybe you could RP something really weird happening, like you troops being welcomed as heroes, and all the the opposition stopping and people throwing flowers at you etc, and your troopers go like: "Whoo man, we didn't know there were so many people left in here... imagine if they would still have been hostile..."
Just an advice... :)
I found that too boring...and the fact that I didn't see post 299 also lends a helping hand too. But for now let me have my moment of glory. Then just as a soldier peeks around a corner he'll see a white flag and children waving flowers, women singing and handing out beer and loafs of bread, and the men cheering and waving in dismal defeat. I'll get back to that in a little while. Right now I am getting ready for a WWII reenactment and don't have the time. Maybe I'll post some pics later so all you chaps can see me and my unit in action!
Asfaltum
30-05-2007, 10:19
Lol, yeah ok... :D
Balrogga
30-05-2007, 21:57
Hopefully those two can end their fight so we can get to the finale, I am doing my best to speed things along so we can. Our presence might allow the duel to stop so we can proceed. I am aware Riddick is still there OOCly but not ICly. Perhaps he will follow along silently behind looking for an opportunity to strike later....
Just a suggestion that might speed this up without compromising the story.
@Orthodox Gnosticism:
Your last two posts were pretty good. Thanks for all the detail, it is well appreciated.
Orthodox Gnosticism
31-05-2007, 00:06
Thank you, I know I am still new at typed out role-playing, so I really do apprecite your compliment.
Balrogga
02-06-2007, 01:55
@ Asfaltum
WTF?
What are you doing? Are you trying to drag this out even longer than it already has? This RP has gone on endlessly for too many weeks already. We all understand the difficulties Coreworlds and Unified Sith are having with posting, seeing as they only get limited time at posting. That is the reason everyone is “bending” their character concepts so everything is ready for those two to post when they do get a chance to hop online.
I have had to add onto Ba’El’s powers in an attempt to Plot Device us to the final battle. Honestly, it is highly unlikely you will ever see him use his photo-kinetic ability over such a large group ever again. It was done to advance the plot. CW and Abh played along (and I thank them both) with the posts allowing their characters to do what we all know their characters would never do, follow an enemy’s suggestions (Remember the ESUS-GFFA War?) into “capture”. OG even did his part to add details onto my photo-kinetic hologram that alluded to the materialistic presence being strong enough to even change our voices.
We are all trying to keep this from dragging worse than it already is.
Then you pull shit out of your Ass-Space, again.
Nobody had to let you keep Riddick when you GM his arrival (Remember the war fleets trying to stop aid from arriving? You never even Rped him landing). Then you tried to pull his whole war fleet along too. That was when the others drew the line and said NO.
Now, in your last post he is suddenly a Class A Psion too? WTF? I don’t remember any of that in all three movies or any of the toons I have seen. It was also not demonstrated anywhere in this RP either so it is in my opinion you invented it on the spot.
Here is information about Riddick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riddick
I do admit I kinda messed up with the lights but that can easily be fixed by assuming the last one we passed was the last one in the initial string that was lit. If Riddick was the one that knocked them out he would be further up the passage and not here. Since I have not stated seeing any lights after the battle, it works just fine without having to change a word. There, it’s fixed.
Also, if you read the posts, the "troopers" have only appeared and stood back pointing their weapons at the person Vader is fighting, just like in the movies. Nobody has called for surrender or even spoken to the duelists. We are standing there backing up our supposed commander, like what is expected of his troopers.
The boot prints made me laugh. Dry sand is too coarse to hold any details; it just leaves a generic impression. We are in the desert, not on a wet sandy beach. Even in the tomb, it would be dry; otherwise all those mummies discovered in Egypt would have rotten over the years.
I figured Ba'El was overtaxing himself maintaining the disguise so I had him not initially detecting you standing there hiding in the shadows. Now that you exposed yourself and did your cock-waving all over the place I have no choice but to open the Plot Device box again and deal with the Threat he could be to our plan. Since Ba'El is a pure mind, there is nothing you can do to hide from him. It would be like a child hiding from Riddick. Since Ta'Nar perceive energy instead of seeing (no physical body means no sensory organs) your body heat, your heart beat, your battery in that light saber, and to a degree, the electrical activity of your nervous system would be like shouting "I'M OVER HERE". Then you will see what a Ta'Nar can do to an uppity "meatbag" (derogatory IC term for a corporeal being).
There has been several times you have bitched about others posting and demanded them edit their post. Now it is your turn to make things right by using the EDIT button.
In both the IC and OOC Threads I suggested a course of action that would bring this RP to a close much faster. I will state it nice and clear so there is no mistaking it.
Let your swordsman be captured. He will be taken down the tunnel guarded by the same troops that are guarding two important captives. The Emperor would want to see all three and to brag what he has achieved to them. Lord Vader knows this and would most likely take them there himself. Riddick can stay hidden in the background and follow, being the surprise weapon for the Final Battle at the end of the tunnel.
This is to get us there so the last scene of the RP can be finished. The saber battle is currently the only thing that is keeping it from progressing.
EDIT:
It was pointed out to me that I forgot to mention your comment about the hand signals. I'll let OG and US argue the point of hand signals that are Imperial or not and how Riddick would know them ICly. That is their torch to carry, not mine.
Orthodox Gnosticism
02-06-2007, 03:12
I did not have a problem with the comment on the hand signals. The signals that were used were the standard colonial military signals. My men know next to nothing about the empire, and with the exception of Coreworlds, next to nothing about any of you. Although they have learned a lot in the last few hours, my operative and marines would not have had the time to learn the Imperial hand signals from Coreworlds computer, nor would they have had the time to program the cylons with recoginition of the signals. All of my "obvious" mistakes are done trying to RP a squad that knows next to nothing of it's enemy.
However I would say that Riddick now being the top psychic that he is, telepathically communicating with us telling about how obvious we are being. Vader is one of the most powerful beings with the force, maybe THE most powerful. Sending out a pointless "Hey I see you, I hope he doesn't" message is only begging Vader to intercept it, and if he was previously fooled, now he will not be. I would hope that Riddick would be much more tactful, instead of screaming across the force, or in our minds.
BTW quick question, what would heavily armed and trained marines who have been exposed to a world that they had never encountered before, seen strange things, had their armor competely changed at a thought of one guy, do when someone is intruding in their minds. I am getting to the point that I am playing out of character by not blowing the cave at the moment. That would freak them out beyond reason, especially since besides the Oracles, on occasion Leoban, or Hera, or the random person with an imaginary friend that can predict the future, none of the Colonials nor cylons have any interaction or understanding of psyonics or the force.
The Colonials/Cylons assume the supernatural is the will of the God or the gods, and Riddick's message is far from what the gods would have said Since Riddick can now speak into minds, I would assume he could read them as well, and he should know that speaking into their minds might be the final straw that would break the camels back.
Balrogga
02-06-2007, 05:18
I meant how Riddick would have been omnipitant enough to know the difference between your collonial and the Imperial hand signals, I'll edit the post so there is no confusion. He did just land on the planet a couple hours ago and went straight to the unknown burried tomb via a secret tunnel or someting simular. Since it was daytime when the Imperials landed there was no darkness to use to slip into the tunnels ahead of them.
Now that you speak of it that way, it is God-like...
Orthodox Gnosticism
02-06-2007, 15:12
That is true. Since the Colonies only recently discovered life outside their own solar system, and since what I know of you guys is very limited, it should be assumed that you guys know little of me. My hand signals would be different, but Riddick should not know what my hand signals are. And since Riddick also had never encountered Imperial storm troopers, he should not know the difference.
Please remember that only Coreworlds up until this thread had ever worked with my forces in any kind of military operation. As such only he would know as of now how they fight, and what they do. If this thread had never of existed, only Chronosia and Coreworlds would know that my society even existed, let alone my military, or their codes.
You guys should have just let me glass the planet, it would have been much simplier :)
CoreWorlds
02-06-2007, 17:40
Aye, I would have to interject my own issues into the problem. Riddick is turning out to be a total arrogant bastard to the important characters, something not conductive to any alliance. Not to mention that he should not be aware of anything but Imperial soldiers taking two important Jedi prisoners into custody. If he has suspicions, he should damn well keep his mind shut and should not play 'all-seeing God'.
And by the way, that telepathic paragraph is more than long enough to give away your location, especially to a bunch of Jedi and a member of Balrogga's people, as well as a Dark Lord of the Sith. Even if you did it like a tightbeam transmission, it's at least a minute long, more than enough time for someone to track you psychically through something like energy leakage or a slight variation in energy use. How is not the point. The point is that silence is golden especially when psychic powers are concerned and Riddick just broke that rule, giving himself away as easily as if he had a neon sign saying "Here I am! Shoot Me!"
I also have half a mind to disallow Riddick from future interactions if you continue to play him up this way. I'll tell you what. You have two strikes against you concerning Riddick now. The third time objections occur, I will play as if he does not exist.
Oh yes. Balrogga. Don't forget that there's two Colonial Raptors waiting for the right time to fly out of the Ankylosaur. Once the FTLi generators around Executor are down, the Raptors will fly to the Colonial fleet and order them into the gap, along with Abh and your forces.
Please remember that only Coreworlds up until this thread had ever worked with my forces in any kind of military operation. As such only he would know as of now how they fight, and what they do. If this thread had never of existed, only Chronosia and Coreworlds would know that my society even existed, let alone my military, or their codes.
Actually, I only know how your Navy fights. This is the first time I've seen your Marines in action, the boarding parties a while back notwithstanding.
The Colonials/Cylons assume the supernatural is the will of the God or the gods, and Riddick's message is far from what the gods would have said Since Riddick can now speak into minds, I would assume he could read them as well, and he should know that speaking into their minds might be the final straw that would break the camels back.
Aye. And that means that my guys will have to back the Colonials up as well, meaning Riddick's going to be a smear on the wall very soon (not to mention we have to run past a pissed off Vader). Even if he didn't alarm the Colonials, he just broke operational security and that means he has become a threat to Coredian plans. I don't need to tell you what that means, I hope.
Balrogga
02-06-2007, 22:03
You know what the sad thing is?
Coreworlds was able to get online today and because of this BS, he was unable to post. This was probably the only time this week he was to have internet access and it was completely wasted. Now we will probably have to wait another week…
You know, you are sure making it hard for your allies to help you. We are getting more resistance from you than the entire invasion forces. Makes a person wonder why we are actually trying at all. Makes people reconsider their choice to Rp with you.
Axis Nova
02-06-2007, 23:59
OOC: Since when are Force users telepathic except in a very general sense? They are not Psi-Cops.
Asfaltum
04-06-2007, 07:45
OOC: I didn't have time to read all your last comments but obviously you are kinda angry at... um... what I really don't know, but your angry, I can tell that much...
I was really just trying to portray Riddick as the arrogant self-assured bastard he is, so excuse me for doing so. If your guys got powers which he hasen't that just makes it more interesting. I was in no way trying to belittle you personally, after all it was IC posting, right? I mean, hey, I was also just trying to move the RP along, I mean I wasn't going to stall it... just trying to be realistic and start the combat instead of standing around and talking... if I stepped over a few lines then excuse me... the fact is I'll be going on vacation in less than two weeks and I'm desperate to end my part in this or else I'll have to make someone else RP my characters, which aren't even mine... I'm "borrowing" Riddick from a friend, Furia Prime, and he gave me a short description of the character which turned out to be a little different from the original Riddick charatcer... so if you have any problems at all with what I wrot, just ignore it, so we can get this over with... pleaze...
Orthodox Gnosticism
04-06-2007, 15:06
I never thought that you were attacking me personnally. I did however question Riddick's IC intellegence on making such a move. Since you made it IC and have no desire to change the post, which is fine since Riddick really is a self assured bastard, as you called him then I would ask that either Balrooga or Coreworlds use the force or whatever abilites they have at their disposal to calm my forces down, before my troops begin to set G-4 charges in the cave and blow it and all of these "demons" back to hell. That move would be the final straw. They have seen way too much and have too little understanding of these "powers" not to be freaked out to the core.
Orthodox Gnosticism
07-06-2007, 14:56
Thanks CW for helping to keep my troops in line. Also Sith that was a fantastic post.
Unified Sith
07-06-2007, 15:31
Thanks CW for helping to keep my troops in line. Also Sith that was a fantastic post.
Many thanks, Tomorrow if CW posts tonight will be a very very interesting read.
Anyway, Unified Sith signing out!
Orthodox Gnosticism
07-06-2007, 15:57
Ok I will wait for CW and/or balrooga/abh to reply.
Balrogga
07-06-2007, 17:52
I am to the point I am waiting for others too.
I will let one of you break the disguise at which point I will just stop maintaining it. I think it should be Abh or CW seeing as they are the "prisoners". We can take our cue from their post.
Orthodox Gnosticism
07-06-2007, 17:57
I was about to break it, but I think you are right, we should wait for them. I will hold off on my post til either of them make their next post.
CoreWorlds
07-06-2007, 23:02
K'guys, the big climax has begun! Orthodox, you handle the stormtroopers and Royal Guards. Doron and Ba'el will back up Daniel's posse. Riddick can run interference. Good luck in the battle, guys.
Orthodox Gnosticism
08-06-2007, 02:17
Time to set the mood : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLoZhF3-7zM :)
Asfaltum
11-06-2007, 09:12
Ok, I hope nobody has any objections to my moving things along, I tried not to specify exactly who was teleported, so it's really up to you what happens, who dies, gets wounded etc. Bascially the toxic smoke was just closing in on the combatants when they were teleported out of there, so they might be feeling a little giddy but they'll be all right. There are several directions this could go...: Vader is left behind unscathed due to his respirator and walks out of the place being the new Emperor, or maybe he gets accidentally teleported unto my ship together with a few guards and we'll have to try an kill them (or capture him alive and hold him for ransom, whohoo). Or... maybe some Imperial trooper sees a bird collide with my invisible ship and fall down dead and then the guy alarms everyone... or maybe he's a known drunkard and nobody believes him... it's really up to you... I'll be going on vacation on thursday, so hopefully I'll be out of this by then... :)
Orthodox Gnosticism
11-06-2007, 14:54
I am going to wait to post til after CW and Balrooga post, since I will assume that my two messanger raptors will launch soon and bring in my fleet and Abh's.
Thrashia
12-06-2007, 00:49
Um...just out of curiosity...how does Riddick expect the other Coredians and anyone else in that Jedi raiding part to survive from that "ever so nicely" planted thermal nuclear device he rolled down the hall. Everyone down there would be dead, Force-user or no. And is that really what US wanted or agreed upon, the killing of Tarkin, Vader, and Nightshade in that manner?
Thrashia
12-06-2007, 00:58
Personally, I am waiting on US to comment in some way on the matter.
Killing anothers character is something Asfaltum screamed about earlier but he can turn around and do the same when he wants apparently.
And Ho-Hum about it, it seems. And who all is out in space with ships. I know Abh is but who else and how many? Since I'm now commanding out there, I'd like to know.
Balrogga
12-06-2007, 00:58
Personally, I am waiting on US to comment in some way on the matter.
Killing anothers character is something Asfaltum screamed about earlier but he can turn around and do the same when he wants apparently.
Orthodox Gnosticism
12-06-2007, 02:47
And Ho-Hum about it, it seems. And who all is out in space with ships. I know Abh is but who else and how many? Since I'm now commanding out there, I'd like to know.
Abh and I will have our ships in the area as soon as my raptors leave Coreworlds vessel to make contact. I will have 13 ships. 10 Mercury class battlestars refit with Coreworlds shields and holographic systems(Same class as the Pegasus) 2 Ares class battlestars (twice the size of the pegasus and four times the firepower) and the Battlestar Hera (my command ship, basically the top and bottom part of the cylon basestar, with a mercury class battlestar in the middle section.)
Balrogga
12-06-2007, 05:21
As arranged, a wormhole will open in the gaping hole the crippling of the Executor left in the FTLi to allow the ships to escape. My Strike Group that has been waiting in T-Space will Emerge to give coverage before leaving.
That will be 19 ships of mine: 1 carrier, 2 battleships, 4 cruisers, 4 destroyers, and 8 frigates.
CW requested at least 10% of his ships escape along with two others but you will be taking alot of the others down. Since I really don't know stats or numbers even though I was given permission to use his ships for him, my losses will be generic but still happen. I hope you understand.
The next part of this post is information on my Grav Torps Mk II copied from another Thread.
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As obvious to the RPers here but stated so new players who might not realize, this information is considered SECRET and only expressed in an OOC style so all players involved understand the way they work.
Here we go:
Grav Torps
After observing the destruction caused by the initial testing of the prototype, the development of a torpedo armed with a KK projector and a short lived high output fusion reactor. The torpedo is shielded so its electronics cannot be detected. The torpedo is programmed to fall short of its target and act like a dud. After a few minutes, the Caplis generator will generate a quantum singularity about 10 meters away from the target on the opposite side from the torpedo. This will also pull the torpedo into the singularity but the target will most likely be its first meal and the torpedo, its desert. Once the torpedo is destroyed, it obviously stops feeding the singularity which will collapse within a few seconds. Alternately, the singularity can be targeted upon the vessel itself.
Later versions of the Torpedo generated the singularity ahead of itself and tried to take multiple passes through the target. It was found the enemy fire would be absorbed by the singularity resulting in a longer life for the weapon to finish it's task
Copied from http://balrogga.beldragos.com/weapons.htm
Details on the KK Drive are at http://balrogga.beldragos.com/drives.htm
The Grav Torpedo the Empire currently uses is the Mark II version.
The Mk II version has been used for centuries and the torpedo is nothing but a KK generator and a fusion reactor with some electronics for guidance. The design was based off the KK Drives of the Empire, which has been retired to the civilian sector for use as their FTL drives. The Torpedo is expelled from the ship using launching tubes and then when a safe distance from the ship the torpedo activates.
The way the device works is it creates an energy based singularity at a focus point a certain distance ahead of the vessel (in this case, the body of the torpedo). The gravity pulls the ship forward and the drive reforms the singularity in the new location where the focus point now exists. This happens thousands of times each second and each tiny jerk of movement is felt as smooth acceleration. Since this is actually an FTL drive the torpedo can accelerate up to C quite quickly and once it hits C, it switches to Space Plus just the same way the KK Drive takes a cargo ship or private yacht there.
The Schwarzschild Radius of the singularity is three meters. The focal point is five meters in front of the body of the torpedo. The dimensions of the torpedo body are one meter in diameter and three meters long.
These specifications mean the Grav Torp cannot be damaged from the front because the Schwarzschild Radius would draw in any incoming projectiles and point defense. These torps fly straight and do not use evasive actions. If they wove to and fro, they would expose their power generator to incoming frontal fire. Since they do not take any evasive actions, it is relatively easy to shoot them from the side or rear.
When the torpedo strikes an object, the singularity devours a hole allowing the body of the torp to pass through at a high speed. Eventually the torp would exit the other side of the ship and the internal electronics would turn the torp back around to have another pass at the ship. It is at this point where most of them are destroyed because their back is fully exposed to the targets point defense.
The fusion power core is good for up to an hour’s operation and once the core is about to fail, the torp generates a final singularity upon itself resulting in its own demise to prevent others from getting an example of the technology. The mechanics of the device is also trapped to destroy itself if it is not opened correctly, as well as other safeguards present.
Please note, these evolved from the SCCAM SHELL as demonstrated in the Alan Dean Foster’s Commonwealth and Flinx series as well as his short stories.
Alan Dean Foster Site:
http://www.alandeanfoster.com/version2.0/frameset.htm
My current attack is to shoot these from along side your cloud formation so they cross at right angles to your heading. They are capable of FTL travel but the FTLi would keep them from actually achieving C and Crossing into Space Plus. Each volley is designed to overwhelm you into defending so the 18 probes can slip through unnoticed. I don’t care if you destroy the Torps when you can get a side or rear shot because my intention is not to take out your ships but to use the distraction to get sensor readings from within your cloud. Any Torps not destroyed will emerge from the other side of the cloud and turn back to pass through again until their cores self-destruct. Since they are basically on full drive, their life expectancy is 30 minutes tops due to full power consumption.
If any ships get damaged, then that is the icing on the cake because the mission is about information gathering but later the torps would be used to target the ships instead of being a distraction so go ahead and make a number of breath-holding near misses or some damaging blows. Make it tense and interesting, or in other words a good read.
My ships will continue to pace along side your cloud and fire volleys into it until they get a good sensor reading. You can determine what the sensors (18 each volley with 400 torps as cover) uncover and you can post it. Once I have enough data I will most likely leave the battle with my objective achieved.
Note:
Here is a quick DOGA of the Grav Torp Mk II:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/beldragos/GravTorpMKII.jpg
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This next part is a quick description of my ships I am using.
The Infernal Frigates (http://balrogga.beldragos.com/kythonfrigate.htm) are the primary torpedo launchers with 18 weapon bays each. At 50 meters, they were almost completely launch bays and point defense with a couple Ion Cannons to mess with the electronics of the enemy. Their main job was to spam the enemy forces with torpedoes to take down their shields.
The 120 meter Interceptor Destroyers (http://balrogga.beldragos.com/interceptor.htm)would bring another horrific weapon to the battlefield: the Slicers. The Destroyers were designed to be fast and tough, able to speed ahead and disable fleeing enemies by removing parts of their ships much like a shark a swimming victim. Their Slicers were simply a low power containment beam. The problem is it contained dimensional fluctuations that would sever anything that broke the beam by creating gaps along the length of the beam. The only saving grace is the range was not very great so it was an up close and dirty weapon.
The 140 meter Infiltrator Cruisers (http://balrogga.beldragos.com/infiltrator.htm)would be next increasing in the firepower ranges where the Destroyer skimped for the speed. The ship was armed with more weapons than the Destroyer but slower to accelerate than her sister ship. She did have her SGEs and they would be used to much regret of the enemy.
The Impaler Battleship (http://balrogga.beldragos.com/kythonbattleship.htm) was at the top of the Capships at 180 meters with her dual Gravity Catapults, her Super Ion Cannon, and her unusual protruding rams. This ship would either throw anything she could get at you or simply throw itself. Perhaps that is why the class was called the Impaler.
Directing them all was the Avatar Class Carrier (http://balrogga.beldragos.com/avatar.htm). The 3000 meter carrier would direct the fleet ships much the same way a conductor would a symphony. In addition were the swarms of Kythons she could throw at those who dared to stand against the Avatar. In addition to all the weapons the previous ships had in great numbers, the carrier also possessed a Mega Ion Cannon capable of planetary scale destruction. The effects of a single sustained blast could supercharge a planet’s magnosphere so those on the surface would be reduced to Stone Age as the electronics planet wide would cease to function. Against ships, it would be equally devastating.
Asfaltum
12-06-2007, 07:23
Um...just out of curiosity...how does Riddick expect the other Coredians and anyone else in that Jedi raiding part to survive from that "ever so nicely" planted thermal nuclear device he rolled down the hall. Everyone down there would be dead, Force-user or no. And is that really what US wanted or agreed upon, the killing of Tarkin, Vader, and Nightshade in that manner?
It was a small blast, basically resulting in a large fireball blowing away everybody in the passage. People, like Riddick, Vader and Daniel, who were in caves or other parts of the cave network are not affected from the blast that much (maybe from the shockwave) but are mostly affected by the smoke spreading throughout the cave. After all, the cave complex is huge, one small nuke won't take out the entire place, so all the combatants will experience a huge shock riple through the cave, but not much more. So, only Tarkin has been killed; Vader, Nightshade and all the other guys are still alive. And frankly I don't really care what US "wanted or agreed upon" seeing that he has invaded my planet, attempted to kill Strategorum and really not cared what my wishes were, considering it was my home-turf. The way people explained it to me, that's how things go. So, I'm just playing by the rules; what you give, you get back.
Balrogga
12-06-2007, 13:14
I decided to take matters into my own hands. I fixed the situation and if anyone doesn't like it, you can post about it here.
I am tired of all the delays in the RP and want it finished. In the process I incapacitated Ba'El for the time being so I am out of the battle for at least a few minutes until I regain awareness again. That seems like a fair balance for saving everyone from nuclear death. They were only as few meters away from the battle so there is no tactical nuke small enough to do what was written with that amount of space in between.
They had to be that close, otherwise Tarkin's claim that Palpatine making it hundreds of meters with those wounds would be a blatent lie. The Emperor had to collapse real close to the battle to avert suspicion from Tarkin. That means they were meters away and shards from a normal gernade would have bounced off the walls into the room. A nuclear blast would have torched it as I indicated in the Vision.
I am tired of the BS so can we get on with the RP? We only have a few days before Asfaltum goes away on vacations. I will post Ba'El comming to after I get home from work tonight, that should be long enough if others post while I am at work.
Orthodox Gnosticism
12-06-2007, 14:34
Great post Balrooga. I will send out the raptors in a bit, but before I do, like coreworlds did, I only ask that the Battlestar Hera survive. Besides that, if the rest of my fleet is destroyed, oh well. Would you like a list of the weapon systems that my ships use?
CoreWorlds
13-06-2007, 01:49
Thanks for the save, Bal. And Asfaltum? The nuke would have vaporized everything in the cave because of one reason: Bernoulli's principle. Here's what I mean: you know how if there's a windy day and you enter some narrow alleyway and the wind seems to get stronger? That's the principle in action. The nuke would shove the shockwave in all directions, but the cave system would force the shockwave through the tunnels (path of least resistance), and increase the potency of the blast by concentrating its power. The wave would kill instantly for sure and you would have had the distinction of destroying the leaders of both sides of the war.
There's a reason why nukes are considered the ultimate bunker busters, after all.
Anyway people, expect a post sometime tomorrow.
Balrogga
13-06-2007, 03:53
Another good example is one anyone who played D&D would recognize.
The fledgling mage finally clawed his way up to 5yh level anf gained the ultimate in offensive spells, the Fireball. He reads through his notes and sees it had an AoE of 20 ft radius volume. He immediately memorizes the spell and uses it on some orcs on the way to the dungeon, creatubf a 40 ft sphere of fire damage that fries those pesky orcs. The survivors run away all crispy. The mage thinks he is the SHIT as does his whole party. They make it to the dungeon and are crawling through the dark corridors when they come across a group of monsters. The other members of the party encourage the mighty mage when he suggests using his fireball spell on the distant enemies. He remembers the blast from before and believes he is safely outside the 40 foot diameter of the blast. He targets the monsters and lets fly with the Fireball.
To their horror, something goes completely wrong. The fireball starts exactly where he wanted it but instead if incinerating everything 20 feet to either side of the target point, the flames rushed outwards like a charging bull made of fire and encompassed everyone.
What happened is he forgot an explosion is a volumous thing. It will do its best to occupy every inch of space it feels it deserves. In D&D terms that 20 foot radius Area of Effect will fill 36 10X10 cubic sections of space moving outwards from the target. Novice mages usually forget that small fact and end up toasting their own party members. It is funny to watch and a good lesson to pay attention to details.
Now where does it apply in this case? What is the AoE of a field tactical nuke when a small bomb is rated in miles? Now confine that in a tunnel and like CW pointed out, you have complete incineration of everything.
Asfaltum
13-06-2007, 10:39
Lol, I got your point... I was more thinking about Starship troopers, but yeah, they make it look like such a small blast in the movies... haven't read IC posts yet, but I'm going on vacation tomorrow, so, would it be too much asked if any eventual participation in this would go through Balrogga? He can RP me while I'm absent so you can get this finished... if he wants to, that is...
Asfaltum
13-06-2007, 11:06
Just read the IC posts... WHY does everybody seem to come to the conclusion that destroying my entire planet is the best solution? Please refrain from such measures, it's not the least bit realistic that some government would decide that destroying an entire planet of innoccent victims is the only way to prevent a power from taking over a galaxy which is HUGE and presents billions of other "beach heads". Imperial forces have already set up a beach head in a neighbouring system anyway... I believe Thrashia did...
Anyway, when the nuke didn't explode, Riddick and Strategorum were teleported into the waiting cloaked ship and are on their way out of there, so you needn't bother about my involvement anymore... just try not to destroy my planet, thank you.
Unified Sith
13-06-2007, 11:12
Just read the IC posts... WHY does everybody seem to come to the conclusion that destroying my entire planet is the best solution? Please refrain from such measures, it's not the least bit realistic that some government would decide that destroying an entire planet of innoccent victims is the only way to prevent a power from taking over a galaxy which is HUGE and presents billions of other "beach heads". Imperial forces have already set up a beach head in a neighbouring system anyway... I believe Thrashia did...
Anyway, when the nuke didn't explode, Riddick and Strategorum were teleported into the waiting cloaked ship and are on their way out of there, so you needn't bother about my involvement anymore... just try not to destroy my planet, thank you.
What we will do when your gone is sort out your planet and rebuild it, so you can become a productive member of the Empire. We will strengthen your defences, re-educate your people and then you will join us on the great crusade.
:)
Hope you have a good summer, but don't worry Asfaltum, you are new to the game and you're learning, it will all come in time, and I'm here to help you out in the long run.
Think about it, your planet was just the place where the msot infamous ruler in NS FT has died, your nation has just exploded on the map and will live in infamy or heroic memory for most players in the game.
Have no fears youngling, your nation is about to become muuuuch stronger. You need only kneel.
Axis Nova
13-06-2007, 12:23
OOC: http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-colbert.gif @US
Orthodox Gnosticism
13-06-2007, 14:08
Just read the IC posts... WHY does everybody seem to come to the conclusion that destroying my entire planet is the best solution? Please refrain from such measures, it's not the least bit realistic that some government would decide that destroying an entire planet of innoccent victims is the only way to prevent a power from taking over a galaxy which is HUGE and presents billions of other "beach heads". Imperial forces have already set up a beach head in a neighbouring system anyway... I believe Thrashia did...
Anyway, when the nuke didn't explode, Riddick and Strategorum were teleported into the waiting cloaked ship and are on their way out of there, so you needn't bother about my involvement anymore... just try not to destroy my planet, thank you.
Ok Asfaltum, I will explain. First of all your planet will be used as a staging ground to invade the rest of the milkyway galaxy. That can not happen, or if it does we want to make it as difficult as possible. By glassing your planet, and forcing a complete bioshpere collapse, and destroying your entire infrastructure it will be very difficult if not impossible for your base to be inhabited by the empire. Yes there are billions of other potential beachheads, but why should we let one that we know about survive, because others might be made. And of course, my nation does not know about Thrashia's planet yet. If they did, be comforted that they would be destroyed next.
Second, ever hear of Utilitarianism. It is better to kill 100 people if it will save one million. By glassing your planet, it will help to slow down or stop many more invasions into other people. We do not want to be invaded, simple, and if destroying your planet helps to stall or prevent that, then so be it. Since you planted Nanites in all of your people to make them unquestionably loyal to the empire, as you so nicely posted, then they are not innocent. Not even that four year old child. My nation survived two near genocides, and was nearly pushed to extinction twice. My fleet will not allow the chance for a third time.
Third real nations have done it. Ever hear of the Dresden fire bombings of World War II? The allies obilterated an entire city, whose only real military function was they made windshields for the german jeeps. Why? To prove a point, if you screw with us, this is what will happen. Ever hear of the fire bombings of Tokyo? The US, dropped enough napalm to nearly destroy Tokyo, killing over 100,000 civilians. More people died in that then in both atomic bombs. Again why, because it was a point. So yes RL nations have done that. Look at the Genoicide in Darfur, Rowanda, and in many other places in the world. Humans do horrible things, and my people are human.
FT nations do worse. Ever see the star wars films? Why did the empire destroy Alderan? To send a message to the rebellion, if you continue to resist, we will blow you up to. Ever see Star Trek Enterprise? The Xindi weapon that was designed to blow up earth? In firefly during the Unificatino War, the Alliance completely nuked every inch on the surface of the planet shadow, Mal's home world, to show the Independants that if you fight, you will lose. In the new BSG, the cylons wiped out almost 20 billion humans in a single afternoon. Babylon 5, the shadow poisioned the Earth so that within five years the earth would be completely uninhabited. FT is full of planet destroying storylines, and massive slaughters.
And it was your mistake to send a "we surrender and we will join you" message to the fleet, knowing that your allies would intercept it. That message turned you into the enemy, a collaberator. My nation detests collaberators. If you do not believe me, I suggest you download the first 5 episodes of season three battlestar Galactica. Colonel Tigh killed his own wife for aiding the cylons, and he liked his wife more than Commander Hallen would like you.
The only thing that would stop me from glassing your planet would be another message saying you over threw the pro empiral government, but either way Abh and I, or Sith will bomb your planet. Of course sith has the death star, so you probably made the right choice. Or of course Daniel ordering my fleet to stop doing it.
If you do not want your planet glasses, then perhaps you should give Abh and myself a very good reason IC not to. OOC, i do not care if your planet is bombed or not, but IC, your sacrifice will save the galaxy. Also never forget nations almost always act in their self interest.
I do hope that you have a good summer though. But I will do this for you, since you have underground bases, I will not target the underground structures. That way you will have plenty of survivors in the underground bases to do with what you want, (and those in the tomb will survive) By the time summer is over your nation can be rebuilt, so you will live. I am sure the Empire will set up a medical center for you to treat the radiation and biological attacks that will soon happen, but at least some of your people will surivive. Although they might have to wear space suits on the planet's surface for about 60 some years.
Balrogga
13-06-2007, 15:21
Anyway people, expect a post sometime tomorrow.
I'll have Ba'El start to wake up after you post. That way everyone has a chance to post so things are fair.
Terror Incognitia
13-06-2007, 15:29
Thrashia wasn't a separate invasion, was it?
I was getting invaded by Telros and HT, then Telros dropped out, and HT...well, he's been having computer problems for about a month, and they aren't nearly sorted out yet, so god alone knows what's going to happen there, let alone the fact that I've already forgotten where we left it.
Oh, and I think Phenixica was getting invaded by someone...was that Thrashia?
Balrogga
13-06-2007, 15:40
OOCly I know there were three or four nations being invaded but ICly I am only aware of Asfaltum because it is right next to one of my planets.
No, that was Mationbud and 1010102.
I may be invading again, as I am reapplying for the GE. I finally found my niche on NS.
Thrashia
13-06-2007, 18:44
Thrashia wasn't a separate invasion, was it?
I was getting invaded by Telros and HT, then Telros dropped out, and HT...well, he's been having computer problems for about a month, and they aren't nearly sorted out yet, so god alone knows what's going to happen there, let alone the fact that I've already forgotten where we left it.
Oh, and I think Phenixica was getting invaded by someone...was that Thrashia?
It was. I invaded an NPC planet system on the 'outward' edge of Asfaltum space so as to make it a stepping stone into the Asfaltum system itself. So it gives me a nice fall back point should things get too hot in Asfaltum, which doesn't look to be happening unless the said glassing of said planet takes place, in which case it matters little; at least from the Imperial standpoint.
Trailers
13-06-2007, 18:44
OOC: Yay you. Why arn't the Star Wars guys shooting at each other anymore? I was enjoying this read. :/
Thrashia
13-06-2007, 18:51
I posted last for the CW and my ships. I am waiting for a reply.
Getting to it right now.
Balrogga
13-06-2007, 18:53
I posted last for the CW and my ships. I am waiting for a reply.
Thrashia
13-06-2007, 19:19
OOC: Yay you. Why arn't the Star Wars guys shooting at each other anymore? I was enjoying this read. :/
What do you mean?
Balrogga
13-06-2007, 19:24
I see Thrashia is messing with Temporal Tech again. He quoted a post I made two minutes before I posted it.
Gotta love those Time Warps, huh?
Orthodox Gnosticism
13-06-2007, 19:52
I am going to wait til CW makes his post before I have my fleet begin their operations.
Thrashia
13-06-2007, 20:10
I see Thrashia is messing with Temporal Tech again. He quoted a post I made two minutes before I posted it.
Gotta love those Time Warps, huh?
I like to think I'm just prescient. :D
Asfaltum
14-06-2007, 10:56
Ok folks, this is my last post for now. Hope you guys have a great summer. Due to the fact that a large part of my population is located in bunkers right now, I'm not so worried about you destroying the surface, as long as you leave the rest of the planet intact. Oh and Sithy, if you can, feel free to try and avoid anything from happening to my planet... (feel free to use that Deathstar of yours, lol) Ok, cya guys. When I'm back I'll try to start a few new threads so that I can RP better and get rid of my current infamy, just that school and everything has been a little too much, and I wasn't able to concentrate on this so much, but I already have a few ideas for when I get back... B)
Orthodox Gnosticism
14-06-2007, 13:46
I hope you have a great summer, and when you get back I look forward to RPing with you again.
Balrogga
14-06-2007, 21:06
Take time off and enjoy yourself.
Be sure to set your nation to Vacation Mode so you don't have to have it restarted. That will give you up to 60 days to log back into it before deletion occurs. Either that or give it to someone for safe keeping that can log in to keep it from being deleted
See you when you get back
Thrashia
14-06-2007, 21:25
Have fun Asfaltum, while it lasts...<<...>>
Also, yea, you guys happened to forget that I had my Epion Space Station in orbit around the planet...thats gonna throw a few kinks into someones plans if they thought their fleet wouldn't get scorched by making a raid-in...if you need schematics or anything on the little beasty, then just ask. Mind you their a bit outdated since I made them more than a year ago and some of the fighters I used back then I don't now, etc etc, I digress.
Orthodox Gnosticism
14-06-2007, 21:25
Thrashia, I am just curious, did you miss my post about my fleet arriving and the attacks that are occuring? And what is your Epion Space station?
Thrashia
14-06-2007, 22:12
Thrashia, I am just curious, did you miss my post about my fleet arriving and the attacks that are occuring? And what is your Epion Space station?
No, you'll note that the ComScan tech located TWO new fleets, meaning yours and Abh. Believe me, theres enough ships there that all the Star Destroyers within spitting distance, 1,000,000 kilometers, of you will be there to engage you. Abh is simply a more potent threat in Captain Innicus' mind, also the Epion is my fleet headquarters. Just imagine the Death Star but no super laser. Here's a link to its specs, old as they may be.
LINK (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=450828&highlight=Epion+Project)
OOC: Hey Thrashia, mind sending me the link to the GE forums? I lost it when my computer went berserk on me. Thanks.
Thrashia
14-06-2007, 22:54
OOC: Hey Thrashia, mind sending me the link to the GE forums? I lost it when my computer went berserk on me. Thanks.
Hehe...I actually lost it to. But the forums have been really inactive for a long-butt time, so it would kinda useless to go there right now. Sith told me he's working on getting it back up to notch. For now though I have no clue. Google it maybe? Galactic Empire forum nation states, etc search words.
OOC: Will try. Check your TGs, I have something I want to talk to you about. =P
Balrogga
15-06-2007, 06:14
Just for the record, my ships are just covering the escape. They are not anywhere near the planet.
I am working on a post.
EDIT:
I had to go all the way back to post 62 to find the name of the battlegroupp commander.
Thrashia
15-06-2007, 15:16
Just for the record, my ships are just covering the escape. They are not anywhere near the planet.
I am working on a post.
EDIT:
I had to go all the way back to post 62 to find the name of the battlegroupp commander.
You have my pity for such pains. And yea, I know your covering their retreat. It just makes you the predominant target now that the Coredians are nearly gone.
Balrogga
15-06-2007, 15:28
I know.
I just wanted it known that I am not anywhere near those stations of yours because I am not bombing the planet. That would be too out of character for my nation.
Thrashia
15-06-2007, 15:44
I know.
I just wanted it known that I am not anywhere near those stations of yours because I am not bombing the planet. That would be too out of character for my nation.
Not a problem, the station is presently going after Abh. And with you gone, the entire rest of the combined fleet can come after the others...
Balrogga
15-06-2007, 15:56
I haven't left yet, so you might get another volley or two off on me before I leave.
If it takes a post or two to arrive, it is only fair the reverse is true too.
Check your TGs
Unified Sith
15-06-2007, 21:50
Orthodox Gnosticsm come on AIM!
Thrashia
16-06-2007, 04:22
Added you Bal.
Also, note to all, I will not be available this weekend. I'm literally moving all my earthly possesions more than five states over as a transfer student at a new uni, so I wont be able to reply to anything, at least, by this sunday.
Cheers.
Orthodox Gnosticism
16-06-2007, 16:53
Sith, on Monday, around 5 pm EST, which I guess is 11 pm london time, I need to talk to you over AIM.
CoreWorlds
16-06-2007, 17:00
As soon as I get to post, Daniel won't be very happy with what the Hera just ordered. To him, bombarding a planet like that makes you as bad as the Empire, and he will make sure President Adar knows that, with a lecture and everything. We Coredians are touchy about unrestricted bombardments and as such, we'll certainly protest through the proper channels.
Such is the dynamic when playing diplomacy. ;)
Orthodox Gnosticism
16-06-2007, 17:12
Such is the way, and I am certain that with my main ally complaining, that Commander Hallen will be the "Scapegoat", especially since she went against your wishes and you were in operational command of the mission. In all fairness, it was not unrestricted, after all the area you were at was off limits :) Seriously though, I really look forward to the fall out of that decision, it will provide a few storylines. Also I just want to say that I really enjoyed playing in this thread will all of you, you are all good players.
Chronosia
16-06-2007, 18:36
All seems to be going towards an interesting and fortunate series of events, especially when I get to work capitalising on the "genocide" with Cain :P Oh happy days :D
Orthodox Gnosticism
17-06-2007, 22:51
Lol sith, you just had to try and show me up huh :)
Unified Sith
17-06-2007, 22:55
Lol sith, you just had to try and show me up huh :)
Well if one needs a job done, one must be sure to have it done right. Besides Im still blaming you for the planets death. :p
Unified Sith
17-06-2007, 23:04
A force storm is a grouping of trillions of Hyperspace micro wormholes, all channelled in close proximity. Their out lash and the energy emitted is for some reasons great strikes of raw lightning arcing out in every direction. The movements are controlled by the force, which is the last essence of Palpatine. He is now the storm. Forever and ever.
The storm is for all intents and purposes "alive" it arks out at anything not Imperial, destroys anything it can that is against the Empire, including traitors. It is a storm of a last vengeance from a soul now thrown in to total madness.
Palpatine has what he wanted. Absolute power, the price, the surrender of his sanity.
To be one with the force as Sith is to become pure emotion.
Orthodox Gnosticism
17-06-2007, 23:21
well then it will suck to be those raiders on the other side of the planet. It will take the Hera at least a month to bring all of those raiders back to life... sigh... assuming that all of the signals are picked up. After all the Hera will be at the FTLi loophole in my next post and will jump.
Oh and if you did not blame me, well then I would be disappointed. :) There are too many good stories that would be thrown away if you didn;t put all the blame on me, as the Rebellion is about to do as well. I jsut feel bad for Asfaltum, all of those people in the bunkers will now be destroyed. Not too mention Asfaltum Prime, between both of is is now completely useless.
SIth tomorrow I need to talk to you on AIM. I need a favor from you for the next storyline and I hope that you can accomidate me
Unified Sith
17-06-2007, 23:25
Im on AIM right now.
Orthodox Gnosticism
18-06-2007, 20:36
I am holding off on future posts, til after CW and Sith post. Coreworlds would you rather start a new post about your "diplomatic talk" with the President, or stick with the Phantom Invasion, as part of it's aftermath?
Orthodox Gnosticism
20-06-2007, 20:39
Sith come on AIM