Earth SYAE - General IC-thread
Kopparbergs
23-02-2007, 20:34
OOC: In this thread you can make posts about almost everything (as long as it's a part of Earth SYAE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518536)).
Bigger events, such as invading another country, or things that likely will result in many posts may be better to post in a new thread. Smaller things, which probably will result in a lesser amount of posts is perfect to post in this thread.
And try to keep OOC-posts in this thread to a minimum, they are better posted in the above mentioned Earth SYAE-thread.
List of SYAE-threads
Factbooks
Balkan Union (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518780), Jaredcohenia
CCPS (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518838) (Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain), Kopparbergs
DaeHanJeiGuk (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515137), Daehanjeiguk
EEU (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515567) (Eastern European Union), West Pacific
Federation Of Animarnia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519012), Animarnia
Kiwiland Empire (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=516241), Newer Kiwiland - OLD
RSFSR (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515463) (Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republics), Candistan
The Empire of Cripteria (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519295), Cripteria
The Empire of Greater India (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518997), The Scandinvans
The German Confederation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518901), Granate
The Oppressed Peoples of Honako (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519603), Honako
The Scandinavian State of Futuris (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518895), Futuris
United Empire of Nippon and Eastern Rossiya (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520411), Newer Kiwiland
UASR (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515139) (United Arab Socialist Republic), H-Town Teijas
The Saharan Confederate Expanse (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515139), Amazonian Beasts
The Allied States of Southeast Asia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520983), Corbournne
Kingdom of South Africa (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520918), Lachenburg
IC Threads
Conquest of Iceland (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518803)
Hanseong Conference (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=516763)
The Gwangmu Emperor Coronation Ceremony (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515160)
Precious Cargo (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518800)
Red Storm Rising (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518775)
Empire of Greater India takes over Bhutan (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520005)
Takeover of Swaziland (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519606)
Agency for Imperial Contracts Consortium (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519727)
Exercises in the Assertion of Authority (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519598)
Meeting, NYC (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520063)
A Meeting of Eastern Europeans (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518878)
Animarnia Invites World to Royal Airshow (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519092)
The Empire of Greater Indian Openly Welcomes European Immigrants (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519104)
The Invasion of Svalbard (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519294)
Kiwiland Imperial Armed Forces (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520413)
Diplomatic Negotiations (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520535)
Democratic Alliance (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520667)
EEU - Dae Han Empire Conference (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520743)
The Vacuum of Power (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=521337)
A Very Animarnian Coup (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=521365)
OOC Threads
New Earth SYAE, OOC + claims (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518536)
List of IC-threads (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518777) (Not up to date)
History of SYAE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520926)
Other
SYAE World map (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m98/kopparbergs/syae-world.gif)
Old, voided claims
Carloginian Republic of America (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518884), Carloginias
Brazil (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519055), No Taxes
Kopparbergs
23-02-2007, 23:02
03:58 am, Feb 23, The border Spain-Gibraltar, Spanish side
Every day many people were leaving CCPS for their daily work in the French enclave Gibraltar. A lot of people works in the French enclave, and lives within CCPS. Not too many does the opposite, and that's a problem for the CCPS.
The activity at the border crossing was higher than normal, at least for this time of the day. Men from the Guardia Civil (responsible for border crossings) were running all around, and a lot of them were carrying CETME Ameli light machine guns in place of their ordinary handguns.
When the clock turned to 04:00 am, the forces began to move large blocks of concrete to blockade the border crossing. They placed a large pile of blocks in each lane, and then topped it with barbed wire. The forces took place in trenches created by concrete blocks – aiming in both directions, and a Sargento primero nailed up a sign with the text Border Crossing Closed, Turn Around Immediately.
There would be no Spanish workers in Gibraltar today, and certainly not the opposite either. A lot of workplaces in Gibraltar will be empty today, and there may be some chaos in the French enclave. No inhabitants from CCPS was expected to be within Gibraltar at the time of the close of the border as their permission states that they must be back in CCPS before 10:00 pm. But if there are some people from Gibraltar on the wrong side of the border – they will have a hard time to get back to Gibraltar now.
Candistan
23-02-2007, 23:10
Moscow, RSFSR
SIC: The General-Secretary met with his military advisors on the dire situation in the EEU. The Antonov that got shot down had two 500kt Nuclear warheads on board, and they had to be retrieved ASAP. After much debate, he authorized use of the Spetsnaz to go in and retrieve them. Meanwhile, he had some people to contact.
"To the leaders of the EEU
Recently, one of our Transport planes was shot down over the Ukranian Carpathian Mountains. This plane had some 'precious cargo' on board and it must be returned immediately. If you do not comply, we will be forced to send in Spetsnaz forces to retrieve this cargo out of the wilderness. We hope for the sake of both of us that you send the remains of the plane and its cargo over. There are only two boxes on board, but if anybody looks inside of them, there will be serious reprocussions.
Thank you,
Signed,
General-Secretary of the RSFSR, Vladimir Rovanovic
Carl Jacobsson, Minister of Foreign Affairs
To the RSFSR and EEU,
The Scandinavian State of Futuris is appalled at the hostility displayed between your two countries. We urge that this matter be settled peacefully before any bloodshed occurs. In fact, we are inviting ambassadors from both countries to meet in Stockholm to negotiate an agreement of the position of this 'precious cargo', and to avoid any exploitation of infiltration of this 'precious cargo' from either side, we are also volunteering to secure the site of the crash with members of the Swedish Special Forces until such an agreement can take place. We are already preparing in the event that both countries accept. We ask, again, for the end of hostilities, so that this 'precious cargo' issue can be resolved quickly.
The Scandinavian State of Futuris
Carloginias
24-02-2007, 05:26
To the RSFSR and EEU,
The Carloginian States of America wish that this issue is peacefully resolved between your two countries, but the CSA is curious to know as to what is this 'precious cargo' exactly is. Furthermore the CSA cannot allow another war in Europe to ensue, and as such invites both parties to a meeting in New York to discuss a possible solution to the problem.
Carloginian States of America
SIC
EEU
We will offer you aide in conflict against the RSFSR as a direct result of the incident in the Carpathian Mountains. Should you accept our aide as a result of him invading we will gladly send our military to assist you in forcing the RSFSR out.
CSA
Candistan
24-02-2007, 05:28
Carl Jacobsson, Minister of Foreign Affairs
To the RSFSR and EEU,
The Scandinavian State of Futuris is appalled at the hostility displayed between your two countries. We urge that this matter be settled peacefully before any bloodshed occurs. In fact, we are inviting ambassadors from both countries to meet in Stockholm to negotiate an agreement of the position of this 'precious cargo', and to avoid any exploitation of infiltration of this 'precious cargo' from either side, we are also volunteering to secure the site of the crash with members of the Swedish Special Forces until such an agreement can take place. We are already preparing in the event that both countries accept. We ask, again, for the end of hostilities, so that this 'precious cargo' issue can be resolved quickly.
The Scandinavian State of Futuris
To the RSFSR and EEU,
The Carloginian States of America wish that this issue is peacefully resolved between your two countries, but the CSA is curious to know as to what is this 'precious cargo' exactly is. Furthermore the CSA cannot allow another war in Europe to ensue, and as such invites both parties to a meeting in New York to discuss a possible solution to the problem.
Carloginian States of America
SIC
EEU
We will offer you aide in conflict against the RSFSR as a direct result of the incident in the Carpathian Mountains. Should you accept our aide as a result of him invading we will gladly send our military to assist you in forcing the RSFSR out.
CSA
OOC: Okay...did ANYBODY notice the SIC I put in front of my post. Right now, this is between the Russians and the EEU, nobody else.
West Pacific
24-02-2007, 06:44
OOC: Candistan, I will reply once you have RPed either a successful hijacking of the cargo, failed hijacking, or something totally amazing that I can not even comprehend at this point. I'd prefer it be either one or two though because the whole mind exploding thing kind of hurts sometimes.
Carloginias
24-02-2007, 06:49
It would be helpful if you bolded or italicized that.
Candistan
24-02-2007, 07:09
It would be helpful if you bolded or italicized that.
okay, sorry.
Jaredcohenia
24-02-2007, 08:06
To: The Nuevo-Italian Government
We request that you drop your claims on the Balkan region of Greece. Controlling this area of land is very important to us, and we feel that Greece has influenced our culture more than yours.
This is our first request. Our second will not be as peaceful as the first.
Thank you,
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Dragiša Crvenkovski, Prime Minister
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
West Pacific
24-02-2007, 22:01
SIC:
To: General-Secretary of the RSFSR, Vladimir Rovanovic
Your idle threats have fallen on deaf ears and are ultimately spoken out of foolishness, long before your letter reached my office the OISA and Army had already secured the crash site and searched the wreckage. I don't know how you could expect us not to search the contents of these wooden crates, in the crash the crates were destroyed and they must have been filled with bitter, harsh smelling Russian air because we found nothing that appeared to have at one point been inside of the destroyed crates. You may send a team to search the wreckage yourself if you do not believe us, but in the future there will be no need to issue such threats. By the way, perhaps you could answer this question for me, how is it that a Russian military aircraft came to be in EEU airspace in the first place without prior authorization?
[signed]
President Victor Shishenko
Animarnia
25-02-2007, 01:02
To: Department of Defence, The United Kingdom of Ezaltia
From: High Elder; Lady Agafya Shona O'Hara
it has come to our attention that your nation is updrading its rifles from the SA-L85A2 to the G-36; we assume with this upgrade the SA-L85A2's would be disposed of; instead we would like to buy these rifles off you for no less than $800 Universal Nationstates Dollars with enough 40mm Grenade launchers for all rifes. these will be used to to supliment and eventually replace our AK-47; we would also like to buy the design blue prints for this rifle and Grenade Launcher and production rights there of so we can then produce the rifle ourselves.
It is our understanding the SA-80A2 is one of the most accurate and reliable infantry weapon in the world with a bullpip design in all conditions including forrest, Desert and Arctic condition.
Signed
Agafya Shona O'Hara
On Behalf of Her Majesty;
Queen Katriana O'Brien
Daehanjeiguk
26-02-2007, 02:50
ooc: just found this thread!
--- PUBLIC DECLARATION FROM THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS---
The Han Empire wishes to reassert our existing diplomatic relations with countries around the world, especially with those bearing friendly relations with the Han Empire. If your government is interested in reasserting these relations - or to establish new relations if no current relations exist - please inquire with our Foreign Affairs Office of Foreign Relations:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515137
Marquis Pak Yu [박유참반 (朴瑈侯)]
IMPERIAL MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
To: The German Confederation
From: The United Kingdom of Exavia
Our current service rifle, the SA80A2, has been deemed unsatisfactory by the Royal Army. We would like to replace this rifle with the G36 family, inlcuding the G36E, K, C, MG36, and AG36 models. Therefore, we request domestic production rights to these weapons. What can we pay for this?
Signed,
Nelson Hartman
Minister of Defence
To: The United Kingdom of Exavia
From: Heckler & Koch Military Industries (OOC: They manufacture them for the German Military.)
We are sorry to tell you that it is H&K Policy not to give out DPRs out. Even our home country of Germany doesn't get them. It is company policy that we have upheld for a long time.
But we are willing to give you Limited Production Rights. These rights allow you to produce them, under H&K Supervision, for a smaller fee. You still pay for each Weapon, but at a much lower cost. The LPR also costs alot less then the DPR. It is a win-win situation for the both of us.
The LPR will cost 5 Billion USD. Each weapon produced, regardless of type will cost you a total of 750 USD, much lower then the usual 2,000 USD. What say you to this?
Sincerely
H&K Customer Service
OOC: What this basically means, is that you get the Blueprints, but H&K Supervisors watch over your production and require ledgers of all the weapons produced at the end of the Month. You make a payment to H&K for the Weapons and their yours. H&K is producing your weapons in your country, basically.
To: The United Kingdom of Exavia
From: Heckler & Koch Military Industries (OOC: They manufacture them for the German Military.)
We are sorry to tell you that it is H&K Policy not to give out DPRs out. Even our home country of Germany doesn't get them. It is company policy that we have upheld for a long time.
But we are willing to give you Limited Production Rights. These rights allow you to produce them, under H&K Supervision, for a smaller fee. You still pay for each Weapon, but at a much lower cost. The LPR also costs alot less then the DPR. It is a win-win situation for the both of us.
The LPR will cost 5 Billion USD. Each weapon produced, regardless of type will cost you a total of 750 USD, much lower then the usual 2,000 USD. What say you to this?
Sincerely
H&K Customer Service
OOC: What this basically means, is that you get the Blueprints, but H&K Supervisors watch over your production and require ledgers of all the weapons produced at the end of the Month. You make a payment to H&K for the Weapons and their yours. H&K is producing your weapons in your country, basically.
To: H&K MI
From: The Royal Army of Exavia
We agree to this proposal, and are wiring the down payment now. Many thanks.
Candistan
26-02-2007, 04:20
Moscow, RSFSR
"They what!?" spat out Vladimir Rovanovic when he heard the news from the EEU. "How could they not be there?"
General Kursky, the man who delivered the news, looked wary. "Sir, if they don't have them, then somebody has to." he said.
"Well who could have them?" asked Rovanovic.
Somewhere on the coast of the Black Sea
THe two GAZ trucks pulled up on an abandoned dock in the Ukraine. The trucks backed up to the end where a trawler sat in wait. The crane on the boat lifted up the warheads and placed them on its deck. A group of men, including the mysterious hissing one, climbed aboard as the drivers begain their drive back to the Caucasus. The boat shipped off, heading straight across the sea towards its destination in Georgia. Then, it was off to Russia and freedom for Chechnya...
SIC:
The German Military High Command has called Krauss-Maffei-Wegmann, makers of the highly popular Leopard 2 tank, to design a new tank for the Confederations Military. An estimated 12 Billion USD will be given to the project every other year for a period of 10 to 14 years for development. The High Command has stated that the tank should be similiar and if at all possible, should use the Current Leopard 2 Tank Chassis. Also the high command has stated that the main turret should be over 120 mm. All other details of the project have not been finalized.
In addition to this Project, the German High Command has slated that all 750 Leopard 2A6 Tanks to be Modernized. They have stated that the tanks, although still formidable in today's day and age, are lagging behind more modern tanks. Modernizations to the Entire Electronics will be done, along with portions of the Armor. The Armor Modernizations will make the tank lighter, but keeping it's current armor penetration rating. Other Modernizations will be done to the engine and transmission, further reducing the weight. This project will take at least 3 years to complete, most likely 4.
The Invasion of Svalbard (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519294)
Basically, I'm taking Svalbard and converting it to a top-secret military base. I'm posting it on a thread in case anyone thinks my treatment of the Svalbardian's is cruel, and so tells me to stop, I disagree, etc. etc. Even though probably no one will....but the secret military base could be dangerous.
SIC
Project Eclipse has commenced in Western Wales at a top-secret RAF testing facility. High Command, although mostly pleased with the EF-2000 Typhoon, determined that it needed something that could really go head-to-head with the Carloginian Raptor.
The XFA-99, as it is called now, is in the initial design stages. Reports are sketchy at the moment, but the aircraft is expected to be stealthy, maeuverable, and carry a large internal payload. RAFHC has refused to comment on the new fighter, although the following picture has surfaced on the Internet. Experts say that it was Photshopped.
http://fromtheinside.us/multi-media/airvehiclenumber102.jpg
The plane is expected to be operational in 8 years.
Animarnia
27-02-2007, 11:48
The Crown today announced plans for the construction of a high-speed mag-line between the Animarnia region of Central South Africa and Tanzania via Uganda; specifically A line will be constructed and will run from Bria to Aura under Sudan via an underground tunnel of equivalent scale to the Anglo-French Eurotunnel. Then another line will run from Bukboa, Mwazana, Tabora, Dodoma, Dar Es Salaam this will Greatly increase speed at with fright and passengers can get from Uganda and Tanzania to the other provinces of the nation. As currently the only way from Uganda and Tanzania to the other regions is via passenger or freight aircraft. Animarnia already has a high speed rail system capable of reaching speeds of one hundred and twenty five miles per hour however the new mag lines will be able to run at over three hundred and fifty miles per hour. It his hoped to have 20% of the rail network switched over to mag lines by 2015; with the new tunnel expected to be finished the same year.
The new tunnel will create some 15,000 jobs alone; with track laying and other staff coming to 25,000 it is hoped these new lines will attract foreign investment; increase trade and improve the national economy. In all the project (including the tunnel) is set to cost $2 Billion Universal Standard Dollars over 10 years with a total of $20 Billion.
The Crown has also asked for foreign investment in other markets; including factories; Automobile manufacture, arms factories, water Resuvare construction and fast food chains. Fast food chains seeking to expand into the international market include McBurger Congo, Chucky Fried Chicken, and Antonio's Pizzeria. The Crown has also puts its long disused Shipbuilding facilities up for rent as Congo and Tanzania has several ports which with investment could be modernised for mass producing. This will allow Animarnia workers to produce ships for foreign firms and governments under the supervision. If successful it is believed this could inject 10,000 jobs for each facility that is modernised.
(OOC: Ezaltia, do we get an offical reply or was our message simply Icly ingored?)
West Pacific
27-02-2007, 13:50
The plane is expected to be operational in 3 years.
More like 13 years.
(OOC: Ezaltia, do we get an offical reply or was our message simply Icly ingored?)
OOC: Oops.
IC: We accept your offer of purchasing our old SA80s, and we are shipping the first batch now.
West Pacific
28-02-2007, 00:53
OOC: Shazatbotom, your ion drive aircraft are denied, the technology is far beyond our capabilities and would not be possible even by the 2012 deadline, sorry but if you want to use ion drives you will need to join an FT RP.
Jaredcohenia
28-02-2007, 00:58
To: The Nuevo-Italian Government
We asked you once before and recieved no answer. We ask again. Give us Greece. If we do not hear any message from you within the next month, consider the island of Cyprus territory of the Balkan Union.
There is no kidding involved, give us Greece or Cyprus is ours.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Dragiša Crvenkovski, Prime Minister
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
Shazbotdom
28-02-2007, 02:07
OOC: Shazatbotom, your ion drive aircraft are denied, the technology is far beyond our capabilities and would not be possible even by the 2012 deadline, sorry but if you want to use ion drives you will need to join an FT RP.
OOC:
America is using Ionic drives currently for deep space missions and they have stated that it is fesable for current aircraft but would take a decade and a half to adapt it. NASA right now has a probe that i's passing jupiter that has an ionic drive on it.
West Pacific
28-02-2007, 02:16
Yeah, that's in outer space where the forces acting on it are much smaller (gravity, air resistance, etc.) and you said so yourself that this technology was 15 years away from being implimented. Still denied.
Animarnia
28-02-2007, 03:16
OOC: Oops.
IC: We accept your offer of purchasing our old SA80s, and we are shipping the first batch now.
To Ezaltia
Subject: Arms Purchase
Very Well; then let us discus the numbers; how many can you send us in total and over what length of time, we would also like to purchase 5,000 Accuracy International AW-50 and 10,000 Accuracy International L 96 and reiterate our enquiry about posable Domestice or Limited production rights for the SA-L85A2, 40mm Grendade Launcher and Susat Sighting system.
To Ezaltia
Subject: Arms Purchase
Very Well; then let us discus the numbers; how many can you send us in total and over what length of time, we would also like to purchase 5,000 Accuracy International AW-50 and 10,000 Accuracy International L 96 and reiterate our enquiry about posable Domestice or Limited production rights for the SA-L85A2, 40mm Grendade Launcher and Susat Sighting system.
We currently have over 500,000 SA80s in storage, and we can sell you all of them for $20 million USD. They can be delivered over the course of the next 6 months. We can also sell you the AW-50s and L96s for $500,000 USD, and they can be delivered with the first batch of used SA80s.
We can also set up factories in your nation to produce the SA80s, grenade launchers, and sights for $50 million USD, and charge you $800 for every rifle (grenade launcher and sight included) produced there.
OOC: Yeah, I'm selling them to your for pretty cheap, but I really don't need them anymore.
Animarnia
28-02-2007, 03:29
http://www.animeonscifi.co.uk/hosted/animarnia/AnImpLogo.png
To: The German Confederation
From: High Elder Lady Agafya Shona O'Hara
Greetings to your great nation; on behalf of her Royal highness; we would like to express interest in H&K Weapons; and would like to make a substantial order to be delivered over this year and the next.
50,000 MP5K-PDW,
40,000 MP5A3,
40,000 HK-UMP-45,
100,000 HK416 Carbine
3 million SIG-Sauer SIG Pro 2340
We would also like to Enquire about setting up H%K Arms factories across our nation to produce H&K Arms for you under supervision. We believe this would benefit both our nations, as you would gain a skilled and large-scale work force; and we would gain a boost to our economy.
Shazbotdom
28-02-2007, 03:52
Yeah, that's in outer space where the forces acting on it are much smaller (gravity, air resistance, etc.) and you said so yourself that this technology was 15 years away from being implimented. Still denied.
OOC:
Fine. Whatever then. I'll delete my posts for this earth and screw it. Put my claims up for grabs. I was told when this first started that it would allow PMT but you changed the rules when you took over so i'm out.
Animarnia
28-02-2007, 04:02
OOC:
Fine. Whatever then. I'll delete my posts for this earth and screw it. Put my claims up for grabs. I was told when this first started that it would allow PMT but you changed the rules when you took over so i'm out.
I personally don't have a problem with it as long as its Rped out as natural development but thats just me
http://www.animeonscifi.co.uk/hosted/animarnia/AnImpLogo.png
To: The German Confederation
From: High Elder Lady Agafya Shona O'Hara
Greetings to your great nation; on behalf of her Royal highness; we would like to express interest in H&K Weapons; and would like to make a substantial order to be delivered over this year and the next.
50,000 MP5K-PDW,
40,000 MP5A3,
40,000 HK-UMP-45,
100,000 HK416 Carbine
3 million SIG-Sauer SIG Pro 2340
We would also like to Enquire about setting up H%K Arms factories across our nation to produce H&K Arms for you under supervision. We believe this would benefit both our nations, as you would gain a skilled and large-scale work force; and we would gain a boost to our economy.
To: High Elder Lady Agafya Shona O'Hara
From: H&K Military Industries Customer Service
We would be most happy to provide you with these arms. After calculating the totals, the entire price comes out to 3.5 Million USD. We can allow you to pay this in one lump sum or in smaller payments. Your choice.
We are also sorry to tell you that H&K's production as of now is adequate for it's needs. If more factories would be needed they would be build in Germany or one of the outlying Countries.
Sincerely
H&K Military Industries Customer Service
Animarnia
28-02-2007, 04:07
To: High Elder Lady Agafya Shona O'Hara
From: H&K Military Industries Customer Service
We would be most happy to provide you with these arms. After calculating the totals, the entire price comes out to 3.5 Million USD. We can allow you to pay this in one lump sum or in smaller payments. Your choice.
We are also sorry to tell you that H&K's production as of now is adequate for it's needs. If more factories would be needed they would be build in Germany or one of the outlying Countries.
Sincerely
H&K Military Industries Customer Service
Indeed we can Pay in one lump sumb; H&K is renowed for producing some of the finest weapons on earth. when can we expect Delivery of our goods?
Also we would like to enquire if there are any other services currently in need of facilitys to up production that might interest you; as we are trying to attract investment into our nation. our workers are skilled and well educated and would be a benift to any workforce.
Indeed we can Pay in one lump sumb; H&K is renowed for producing some of the finest weapons on earth. when can we expect Delivery of our goods?
Also we would like to enquire if there are any other services currently in need of facilitys to up production that might interest you; as we are trying to attract investment into our nation. our workers are skilled and well educated and would be a benift to any workforce.
The first delivery will be arriving in one weeks times. There will be another delivery every week for the next 3 weeks. By then you should have everything you ordered.
We are sorry most, if not all, of H&Ks divisions are adequately staffed and housed. The only thing we could see going down south would be a Customer Relations Group to handle possible Civilian Use in your country, but we don't forsee that as a possibility.
Daehanjeiguk
28-02-2007, 16:47
OOC:
Fine. Whatever then. I'll delete my posts for this earth and screw it. Put my claims up for grabs. I was told when this first started that it would allow PMT but you changed the rules when you took over so i'm out.
ooc: PMT does not include ion drives and most space exploration tech. It's still rather primitive.
Jaredcohenia
28-02-2007, 21:50
ooc: PMT does not include ion drives and most space exploration tech. It's still rather primitive.
OOC: And I'd also like to add...aren't you three extremely poor African nations, Shaz? How would you get that technology anyways...
West Pacific
01-03-2007, 00:15
SIC to RSFSR
I was kind enough to allow your government to send inspectors into our territory to recover a Russian military aircraft that was illegally flying through EEU airspace, now it is time for you to return the favor. My government must know immediately what was this "precious cargo" is you spoke of. Your government was very certain that there was some sort of cargo on board, we found nothing, it doesn't take much to figure out that something is going wrong here and lives might be at stake.
[signed]
President Victor Shishenko
Candistan
01-03-2007, 00:24
OOC: This is from the precious cargo thread. It is sent to your intelligence by a Chchnyan terrorist. It pretty much renders the above question void.
IC: The boat docked in a small Georgian Port town where the cargo was unloaded and placed in the bed of anothe GAZ truck. The truck began its drive up into Northern Ossetia to pass into the RSFSR. Meanwhile, two DVD's were shipped out, one to the KBG and another to the OISA. On the tape, the mysterious masked man made a speech to each of the agencies.
The KBG one read...
"Greetings, oppressive pigs. I am Nikolai. I come from the Republic pf Chechnya and I speak on behalf of all of my people when I say let us be free. You have spilt our blood for too long and now it is time to spill your. If you do not let us go immediately then the amount of blood that will be shed on your people will be incredible. You will wallow in sorrow for years to come as it could have been so easily avoidable yet wasn't, thanks to you and your swine leaders. You have one month, or else all of Russia shall pay for your blunder.
The OISA one on the other hand was a bit more upbeat...
"Hello. I am Nikolai. I am the man responsible for the takedown of the Soviet aircraft over the Carpathians. No thank yous are needed at this time. I come from Chechnya and I am working for her freedom from the Soviet oppressors. I am going to let you in on a little secret. You may not tell the Russians this, or else our liberation could be foiled. The "precious cargo" in the back of the plane that you didn't find is a pair of 500kt warheads. If the RSFSR doesn't let us free in one month, I will detonate these warheads. One in Moscow, one in St. Petersberg. Remember, this is our little secret, so keep the Russians blind while I do you a favor.
Daehanjeiguk
01-03-2007, 02:37
SIC to EEU:
Our intelligence officers have successfully interrogated some of the persons captured in the Imperial raid on supporters of the anarchist Bogdorski. We have come to realize that there is more to this plot than seems to be on the surface. One of our persons claims to be involved in a conspiracy aiming to bring war between the RSFSR and EEU. He has been sequestered into selective interrogation to extract more information from him, but we will update you more when and if we receive more intelligence concerning the nature of this revelation. We would strongly encourage your armed forces to be alert for any attempt to perpetrate war either on your or the Russian's behalf.
ooc: this post melds the points from "Red Storm" and "Precious Cargo" - although they are not necessarily connected because of two different groups converging on different interests.
OOC: For the tape, is it just to EEU and RSFSR, or is it to everyone else?
Candistan
01-03-2007, 02:56
OOC: For the tape, is it just to EEU and RSFSR, or is it to everyone else?
It is only for the EEU and myself for now, but trust me, in a little bit, everyone will know the end result of this Chechnyan plot...
It is only for the EEU and myself for now, but trust me, in a little bit, everyone will know the end result of this Chechnyan plot...
OOC: I know, it's just that I wanted to further participate in this by readying my armed forces in case anything does happen....but whatever, it's up to you and the EEU. I'll make some sort of IC post later.
Candistan
01-03-2007, 03:05
OOC: I know, it's just that I wanted to further participate in this by readying my armed forces in case anything does happen....but whatever, it's up to you and the EEU. I'll make some sort of IC post later.
I assure you, a war will occur, but who it is with is still a mystery...(to everyone but me of course;) )
West Pacific
01-03-2007, 04:09
SIC to Han Empire
We are very thankful for your assistance thus far, your intelligence services have performed better than could be hoped for given the distance between our two nations and the seeming lack of any connection that most analyst would find. Hopefully one day we can repay you for your helpfulness thus far. We have called up almost 75% of our reserve forces based on your warnings combined with information we have received from our own sources.
Normal IC
The Ministry of Defense announced today that they would be purchasing an additional 144 PT-91's and 112 T-84's to be completed over the next two years. Additionally the Ministry announced that they had begun testing on the Croatian built M-95 and if all tests went well the MoD planned to buy anywhere from 500-1,200 of these systems over the next four to nine years. To end their press conference the MoD announced that they were in need of some new aircraft and that they would be taking offers from corporations around the world for a multi-role fighter such as the F-16 Fighting Falcon. (Hint Hint)
Animarnia
01-03-2007, 12:02
The Queen today announced the continuation of aggressive industrial development and commissioned the construction of over 150,000 more homes nation wide; and over 200 Factories and mining centres for uranium and other natural resources. Financial estimates see a potential 10% growth in the economy per year over the next ten years. In other news; the council of nine legalised prostitution nationwide, under the new policy sex workers will be given free medical care with once a week checkups in an effort to stem the tide of sexually transmitted diseases sweeping across Africa. There will be at least one government sanctioned brothel in every major city and existing brothels can apply for a government licence; all transactions will be taxed 17.9 percent to cover the costs and give a boost to the national economy.
In other news; gay marriage was officially legalised nationwide allowing long time same sex couples to finally tie the knot and be recognised in the eyes of the state as legally married with all the benefits there off; the bill has been signed into law by her royal highness though was widely protested by the Christian and Muslim communities to the south with some threatening to boycott and strike over the bill as a result 2000 Imperial Storm troopers have been re-deployed to the southern region of Tanzania in case of rebellion or rioting.
Many new businesses are popping up across the nation including more McBurger Congo restraints and Chucky Fried Chicken. Car and aircraft manufactures as well as mass transit construction is providing the bulk of the working economy; with unemployment down to just 2.8 percent and still falling.
Daehanjeiguk
01-03-2007, 16:36
SIC to Han Empire
We are very thankful for your assistance thus far, your intelligence services have performed better than could be hoped for given the distance between our two nations and the seeming lack of any connection that most analyst would find. Hopefully one day we can repay you for your helpfulness thus far. We have called up almost 75% of our reserve forces based on your warnings combined with information we have received from our own sources.
SIC reply:
Our investigation concerning the recent collaboration of our citizens in this anarchist affair has our Imperial officials concerned, and it is only to preserve our own interests that we continue conducting these investigations. Nonetheless, we have thusfar found and submitted to you information we believe to be useful. We appreciate the gratitude, and we only request that your government manage well with these revelations and do what is necessary to preserve the harmonic balance of peace in Eastern Europe - it has become increasingly volatile with the events of anarchist riots in your cities, and rumors of invasions in the vicinity. We can only hope that civil-minded states are available to educate the barbarians in the best manner to conduct the affairs of the state.
West Pacific
02-03-2007, 06:25
Letter to the Russian Government
A great misfortune has befallen your nation today, you have my complete sympathy. Whoever is responsible for these terrible attacks must be brought to justice, the OISA will offer whatever help we can in searching out those who are responsible and brining them to justice, however that is not why I write to you today. I write to you to urge discretion on your part. Your nation has just been struck by the singlee greatest tragedy to befall any nation in the known history of the world, but two wrongs do not make a right. If this was the Chechens, as their broadcasts would suggest, the best course of action might not be military, for years your government has taken a hardline stance against Chechnya and it has only created more animosity and hatred. Punish those who are responsible, but do not punish the region as a while.
[signed]
President Victor Shishenko
Daehanjeiguk
02-03-2007, 07:11
IC:
The Celestial Empire deplores this act of cowardice and incivil barbaric anarchism in the Russian Socialist Federal Soviet Republics - the live detonation of two nuclear explosive devices in Moscow and St. Petersburg. Whereas the Han Empire maintains a strict policy of no-first-strike, in regards to the usage of nuclear explosive devices, His Imperial Majesty's government is utterly disgusted and revolted to see such atrocities occur and lead to the reckless disregard of civilization and convention. To which, His Imperial Majesty's Government shall in the meantime consider any and all future nuclear exchange as a tantamount to war with the Han Empire, and shall thence be treated as a casus belli for the Empire's protectionist policy - in order to preserve the balance of civilization and the mandates rendered by the Emperors past. The self-professed nation of anarchists has committed this attack, and until the government in command of the these anarchists makes efforts to rectify its crimes completely and unabatedly.
"We further support the Russian government's desires to retaliate in due to these attacks - to ensure the blessings of civilization for its people. We are likewise adamant in our calls to the world to condemn this nuclear exchange in the RSFSR - as such an event only seeks to make men less wise than those that walk the earth and know no reason to know otherwise. Nuclear war is an affront to civilization, and it must be the calling of the civilized world to stand against barbarians instilled in the thought of mass murder and genocide.
"In order to preserve our interests, the Han Empire has effectively closed all traffic flowing between the RSFSR and Han proper - except for needed aid material and supplies, to render aid for the people suffering these calamities. Until the Russian government has secured its borders and returns civil order to its country, we shall hence bar persons to move freely except by special need. This move is not an attempt to punish the Russian government, but rather as a measure to save the lives of our own civilians, should the worst come to the situation. We hope furthermore that the situation will stabilize and that normal traffic relations can resume soon. Any other comments, questions, and information should be routed to the Imperial Ministry of Foreign Affairs Office of Emergency Services and Aid."
Marquis Pak Yu 박유참반 {朴瑈侯}
IMPERIAL MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
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SIC to EEU
We are afraid that our intelligence will have be limited, concerning the recent outbreak of violence in Russia. It was not anticipated that citizens caught in the recent bust were involved in plots to bring violence between your government and the Russians so explicitly and violently. We have thence forced them into permanent remediation where they will continue to serve their terms for their crimes to conspire against foreign nationals. We apologize for any inconvenience that this may cause for your government, but we hope that the information already provided can help your government cope with future events.
SIC to RSFSR
The Han Empire sincerely sends its condolences for the attacks upon your cities. Recently, a circuit in one of our Western Provinces was uncovered and we revealed a plot conspiracy to funnel support out of the Han Empire to other countries. Since we have busted the circuit, we have slowly uncovered new intelligence. Recently, we had uncovered plots to commence hostilities between your government and another state by initiating a wave of violence upon your cities. While we saw no reason to be alarmed, our intelligence personnel were ordered to extract as much information as we could afford to extract. And unfortunately, our intelligence services proved too slow to counter the threat presented by the anarchist forces. We have since terminated the interrogated and summoned the participants in the circuit to permanent remediation. While this may cause some inconvenience for your government, the Han Empire wishes to state foremost that our government seeks the most harmonic and balanced peace possible, and that our government would never commence such acts of cowardice upon your government. Furthermore, our government wishes to note that if we had had the intelligence in advance of the attacks, we would have readily given it to your government, to prepare your forces for such an event. Whereas we cannot change the past, the Han Empire wishes to lend its support - tacit or otherwise overt - to your government in fighting these extremist forces. We have seen good reason to intervene on your behalf, in order to preserve the balance of civility in your country and end the threats presented by separatist anarchists. If there is anything that we can do to aid your government, let it be known to us, that we may consider it and reply in kind.
SIC to no one but me
Mobilize forces to Readiness Level ## (to be completed once I have a threat level indicator available...).
All Armed Forces are summoned to be ready to be mobilized within 72 hours. If mobilization order is rendered, forces will have 72 hours to mobilize. All Special Forces Divisions are ordered to immediate mobilization within 72 hours.
Imperial Civil Defense Units are ordered to monitor at high vigilance level.
All threats directed to the Han Empire will be analyzed thoroughly before any response is rendered.
Civil activities are to maintain at normal levels with readiness to issue advisories within 24 hours. Advisories to persons with travel needs to the RSFSR are voided, except for special need and emergencies - to be determined by the Office of Emergency Services and Aid. All exemptions must wait 48 hours before any reply is rendered.
Diplomatic channels are to remain open at all times.
His Imperial Majesty is advised to refrain from excessive foreign travels, as are his Imperial Advisors, esteemed members of the Imperial Cabinet and of the Imperial Court. The Imperial Ministry of Defense Board of Military Affairs is to be convened immediately, to monitor the situation and contemplate contigency plans for a reaction to any future attacks.
--- rerouted with modifications from this post:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12384407#post12384407
The Scandinvans
02-03-2007, 07:19
The Empire of Greater India seeks to buy the following items, yet we wish to see the different models, but offered in the quantities listed or in greater number depending on the price and quality offered.
1.2 million Assult Rifles
40,000 Sniper Rifles
320,000 Submachine Guns
80,000 Machine Guns
100,000 Mortars
20,000 Light Artillery Pieces
8,000 Heavy Artillery Pieces
8,000 Tanks
20,000 Troops Transports
1,200 Fighter Jets
1000 Heavy Bombers
8,000 Assualt Chopters
Ammo we pay for a constant flow of
We are willing to pary well for these items as well.
Signed,
Emperor of All Indias
Animarnia
02-03-2007, 08:58
Queen Katriana's private room
It was a quiet day in the Palace; the sun was shining down and birds were chirping; Lady O'Hara bursting into the Queens private chambers quickly interrupted this
"Ma'am; have you seen the news?" Agafya Shona O'Hara; the current high elder spoke
"Whatever do you mean Lady O'Hara?" Queen Katriana spoke confused
"Moscow and Saint Petersburg; they were just nuked; wiped out of existence"
"Oh my god, How many dead?"
"Close to six Million ma'am…The Russians are like a people gone mad; the council of nine fears that they'll nuke the rebels in retaliation" Lady O'Hara spoke quietly.
"I don't blame them if they did" Katriana said; "those that use nuclear weapons in such a manner deserve to have the full might of nuclear weapons brought upon then" she said coldly.
"The council has voted unanimously; we will offer our full assistance to Russia with your approval ma'am"
Palace State room; Public Statement
"People of Russia. We are smaller than you in every conceivably way; so concerned have we been with our own internal politics we have let our eye wander too far from the world at large. We stand with you now, In solidarity, in unity as one people with one voice, mind, body and soul. We pledge our full support at your disposal. If you need schools for your children you shall have them; beds and medicines for your sick you shall have them, soldiers to fight alongside you own. You shall have them.
The cowardly act on nuclear terrorism should be a call to the world, to rally to Russia's aide in its time of need. We stand between the darkness and the light, between the candle and the star we will tread the places others fear to go. We stand on the bridge and yell 'none shall pass'.
We live for one and we die for one.
We ask however that Russia show restraint in the use of nuclear weapons upon the rebels. You wish to wipe them off the planet, do so, you have earned that right in blood but we enplore you to keep it conventional. Russia does not stand-alone.
To the cowardly perpetrators of this attack we say this; make peace with your maker and may the gods have mercy on you because no one else will.
Candistan
02-03-2007, 16:11
The Russian people will not stand by and make peace with these rats! The previous government screwed up twice already, but we are here to finish this once and for all! Every single Chechen in that territory shall be nothing more than a mound of ash when the might of vengence sweeps through the lands. All that was Chechnya shall be converted to iinhospitable wastes. There will be nothing left. A massove Tactical and Strategic bombing campaigne has begun. Grozny now burns like the fires of hell. Similar strikes are being taken against other major Chechnyan population centers in preparation for the full Russian Army assault on the Republic. None shall survive and all those who died in Moscow and St. Petersburg shall be avenged.
Signed,
General Arkadi Koslovic, temporary leader of Russia.
Daehanjeiguk
02-03-2007, 16:30
The Empire of Greater India seeks to buy the following items, yet we wish to see the different models, but offered in the quantities listed or in greater number depending on the price and quality offered.
1.2 million Assult Rifles
40,000 Sniper Rifles
320,000 Submachine Guns
80,000 Machine Guns
100,000 Mortars
20,000 Light Artillery Pieces
8,000 Heavy Artillery Pieces
8,000 Tanks
20,000 Troops Transports
1,200 Fighter Jets
1000 Heavy Bombers
8,000 Assualt Chopters
Ammo we pay for a constant flow of
We are willing to pary well for these items as well.
Signed,
Emperor of All Indias
The Agency for Imperial Contracts has received notification of your inquiries, and while it is typically standard procedure to ask why your government is seeking such advances, the Board Director has nonetheless approved a review of some of our armaments for your use to decide. We will provide the list of armaments if your government should approve. (I'm still working on my last aircraft stats before I post an export thread, so it might be some time - in the meantime, my factbook has a listing of all of the domestic equipment that my country employs, with links to their RL derivatives).
Agency for Imperial Contracts {AIC}
Board of Directors
(to Candistan: Chechen is completely different from Chechnyan)
Kopparbergs
02-03-2007, 16:37
Official communique from CCPS
We are shocked by the news from Russia, and we are sending our condolences to our brothers in Russia. We're sure the Chechnyan rebels will regret their attack when they see the revenge by Russia, but then it will be too late.
We will make everything possible to help the people of Russia, and I have ordered the police in CCPS to arrest every single Chechnyan inside CCPS. This is both to make sure they aren't preparing something here in CCPS, and to investigate if they somehow have any kind of connection to the terrorists in Chechnya. The police forces are allowed to open fire if the Chechnyans tries to escape.
We're also closing the borders of CCPS (OOC: Just as they're wide open normally? Hey, this is a Soviet style communistic nation! lol ), and raising our Defcon-level to three, the highest possible peacetime level.
We are also terrible sorry for the loss of one of our best ambassadors in the Moscow bomb, Mr. Vicente Alberto Álvarez. He will be hard to replace, but PCE will appoint a new ambassador for RSFSR shortly.
Francisco Frutos,
General Secretary of Partido Comunista de España (PCE)
President of the Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain
Candistan
02-03-2007, 21:36
Official communique from CCPS
We are shocked by the news from Russia, and we are sending our condolences to our brothers in Russia. We're sure the Chechnyan rebels will regret their attack when they see the revenge by Russia, but then it will be too late.
We will make everything possible to help the people of Russia, and I have ordered the police in CCPS to arrest every single Chechnyan inside CCPS. This is both to make sure they aren't preparing something here in CCPS, and to investigate if they somehow have any kind of connection to the terrorists in Chechnya. The police forces are allowed to open fire if the Chechnyans tries to escape.
We're also closing the borders of CCPS (OOC: Just as they're wide open normally? Hey, this is a Soviet style communistic nation! lol ), and raising our Defcon-level to three, the highest possible peacetime level.
We are also terrible sorry for the loss of one of our best ambassadors in the Moscow bomb, Mr. Vicente Alberto Álvarez. He will be hard to replace, but PCE will appoint a new ambassador for RSFSR shortly.
Francisco Frutos,
General Secretary of Partido Comunista de España (PCE)
President of the Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain
SIC to the CCPS:
We thank our brothers to the West for their condolences. Since you are a Soviet nation, we would be glad if you could transport some soldiers to the Chechen Front. We have the majority of our military there at the moment, but the more help we have, the faster these Chechen bastards will be wiped out of existence.
Signed,
General Koslovic, Supreme Commander and temprorary leader of the Russias and their militaries.
To: All Nations
Honako is interested in opening up alliance/embassy exchange talks with our nations. It is very interested in forming alliances with nations located nearby our countries. Futuris, we where is discussion of an alliance, is that agreed?
The Honako Independence Commission
SYAE threads by Honako:
Factbook/Embassy Exchange (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519603)
Takeover Of Swaziland
(http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12386414#post12386414)
"Herr Chancellor? Ummm... I don't know how to say this..." General Stefan Strauss mumbled to Chancellor Christof Klein. The Chancellor looked at the general with a look of contempt, mostly for mumbling and not just spitting out the information. The Chancellor did not have time for this, he had the Svarlbard Operation and others to worry about, not mumbling generals.
"General, spit it out now, before I have you removed." He said cooly. The General gulped and summed all the courage he had in his medium sized body.
"Moscow and St. Petersburg.... they're.... they're gone, Herr Chancellor." He said trying not to mumble too much. He saw the look of contempt on the Chancellor's face suddenly change to one of disbelief. The Chancellor put his smart mind into overmind, thinking of all possible ways for this to happen. He soon came to a realization, it was a Nuclear Explosion. He leaned back into his chair, partially stunned.
"How many?" The Chancellor suddenly asked. The General was startled at this question.
"How many what, Herr Chancellor?" The General asked. The look of contempt suddenly returned for split second on the Chancellor's face.
"HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE KILLED, YOU DUMMKOPF!" The Chancellor yelled. The General stumbled backwards at the ferocity of the answer. He quickly righted himself and walked back to his original spot.
"About, 6 Million are confirmed dead as of now. Most likely a few more Million will join them by the end of month." The General said without a stutter, as if he was ready a statistics report in a training simulator. The Chancellor sat back in his chair thinking. He face was a mask of torment and confusion. He thought of what to do, but all of them were not in his leauge. Most were for the Prime Minister to handle.
"I'll have Joerg send them a message. He can handle that, he was always good with Foreign Relations. And I'll have you increase the DEFCON level of all Confederation Troops to level 3. I don't want anything like this to happen here. But other then that, don't do anything." The Chancellor said. The General saluted and left the Chancellor's Office.
Diplomatic Communique to RSFSR
We are sorry to here of the Nuclear Strike on your lands. This was a cowardly act, by cowardly people. Although they are cowardly, we must object to the ruthless bombing of innocents. We would hope that you would use, less violent methods.
Sincerely
Joerg Dresner
Kopparbergs
02-03-2007, 22:17
SIC to the CCPS:
We thank our brothers to the West for their condolences. Since you are a Soviet nation, we would be glad if you could transport some soldiers to the Chechen Front. We have the majority of our military there at the moment, but the more help we have, the faster these Chechen bastards will be wiped out of existence.
Signed,
General Koslovic, Supreme Commander and temprorary leader of the Russias and their militaries.
SIC to RSFSR
Comrade General Koslovic,
We will of course aid you with the action in Chechnya. I'm immediately sending a carrier battlegroup (Buque de Proyección Estratégica) from the Balearic Islands. We will try to get permission from the Balkan Union to pass through the Bosporus. When we're in the Black Sea we need to know if there is a port we should go to, or if we should stay out on the sea, launching air strikes from the carrier.
We can also send one army battlegroup (59,000 troops), but we need to prepare them for action first which will take one week.
Wilebaldo Solano
Minister of Defense
Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain
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IC To the Balkan Union
We're asking for permission to send one aircraft carrier together with five supply ships and three additional warships, through the Bosporus. We're in a hurry as we're going to visit RSFSR in the eastern Black Sea.
Kopparbergs
02-03-2007, 22:32
Success in the Chechnyan hunt
The police force of CCPS has arrested 331 Chechnyans until this morning, and an additional 120 Chechnyans has been shoot to death when they tried to run away from the security forces. According to the registers held by the authorities there are about 1,000 Chechnyans in CCPS, and all of them are going to be visited by the security forces.
Valentin Gonzalez
Chairman of the PCE Discipline Inspection Commission
Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain
West Pacific
02-03-2007, 23:04
Broadcast to the people of Chechnya
Greetings, I am President Shishenko of the Eastern European Union. Recently there was a nuclear attack on the Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic cities of Moscow and St. Petersburg. Russia's reaction was swift and equally as brutal. Russia indiscrimentally started bombing Grozny, capital of Chechnya, in an effort to kill as many Chechnyans as possible in punishment for the attacks by a small number of Chechen rebels. Numerous governments around the world have denounced Chechnya as a whole for these attacks, but we know the truth. An overwhelming majority of you are innocent and merely caught in the crosshairs between a rock and a hard place. Which is why I have decided to give asylum to any and all Chechnyans wishing to emigrate to the EEU provided they are not suspected of involvement in these attacks. I wish I could arrange for the safe transit from Chechnya to the EEU for all of you, but fact of the matter is I can not do that without provoking a war with Russia. You are on your own, but if you decide to come to the EEU you may rest assured that you will be safe.
Candistan
02-03-2007, 23:09
Somewhere in Georgia
Nikolai, the Chechnyan who had perpetrated the attacks, silently drove towards the coast to the boat waiting for them. After hearing the EEU's announcement for assylum of Chechens, he rushed out of Grozny and fled into Georgia. He hoped that he would be able to continue terror activities based out of there against Russia, and he knew that this was only the first in a long line of attacks against the RSFSR he would perpetrate.
To: All Nations
From: The German Confedeation Defense Ministry
We are currently phasing out the F-4 from our Armed Forces. Although these craft are old, they have proven invaluable throughout the Confederations History. We are saddened through the governments orders to Phase them out, we feel that it is in our best interest to sell them off, rather then dismantle them. So we are looking for a nation or nations to buy them off us. They can be used in many roles, infact we use them currently as close-air support for ground troops. You could possibly even update them to be electronic warfare planes, or light bombers.
What you do with them is of no concern to us, but we wish they would be used rather then dismantled. The total cost for one F-4 is 6.5 Million USD. There is only 25 F-4s left so you'd better hurry.
Sincerely
German Confederation Defense Ministry
West Pacific
03-03-2007, 21:39
To: The German Confedeation Defense Ministry
From: Eastern European Union Ministry of Defense
We would like to purchase all 25 of your F-4 Phantom II's that you are phasing out.
Jaredcohenia
03-03-2007, 21:50
To: The German Confedeation Defense Ministry
We have two requests.
First of all, we would like to inquire about purchasing fifteen Leopard 2 main battle tanks from you. We would enjoy testing them out before we are definite about purchasing a large number.
Second, we have seen that you are phasing out F-4 Phantom IIs. We would like to purchase all twenty five of them for 7 million dollars each, half a million more than you requested.
Thank you,
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Dragiša Crvenkovski, Prime Minister
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
Kopparbergs
03-03-2007, 22:09
Location: The Mediterranean, south of Malta, onboard at the carrier Juan Carlos I, the flagship of the CCPS Red Navy
Weather: Sunny, +24 C
Speed: 22 knots
Course: zero four eight
"Sir, did we ever get permission to go through the Bosporus?"
"Not as far as I know, but I don't think there will be any problem. Contact HQ in Mallorca to see if they got any answer from the Balkan Union."
"Okay sir, I'll do that at once!"
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IC To the Balkan Union
We're asking for permission to send one aircraft carrier together with five supply ships and three additional warships, through the Bosporus. We're in a hurry as we're going to visit RSFSR in the eastern Black Sea.
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OOC To Jaredcohenia
I posted the question about passing through the Bosporus a couple of posts ago, you may have missed it at is just was a couple of lines in the end of another post.
Jaredcohenia
03-03-2007, 23:13
To: Commonwealth of Communist Portugal
As with all ships, you will be required to pay the toll to get through the Bosporus. Depending on the size of the ship, the price will be between 20 and 500 dollars per ship, closer to 500.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Dragiša Crvenkovski, Prime Minister
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
To: The German Confedeation Defense Ministry
From: Eastern European Union Ministry of Defense
We would like to purchase all 25 of your F-4 Phantom II's that you are phasing out.
To: Eastern European Union
From: German Confederation Defense Ministy
We are sorry to tell you that we will not be selling you the F-4s you wanted. We have received a better deal from a different nation. That nation will not be named at this time, but you will probably find out in due time. We hope this isn't the end of any trade talks between us.
Sincerely
German Confederation Ministry of Defense
To: The German Confedeation Defense Ministry
We have two requests.
First of all, we would like to inquire about purchasing fifteen Leopard 2 main battle tanks from you. We would enjoy testing them out before we are definite about purchasing a large number.
Second, we have seen that you are phasing out F-4 Phantom IIs. We would like to purchase all twenty five of them for 7 million dollars each, half a million more than you requested.
Thank you,
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Dragiša Crvenkovski, Prime Minister
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
To: Dragiša Crvenkovski, Prime Minister
From: German Confederation Defense Ministry
We would happy to provide you with the 15 Leopard 2A4s, as they are our current export model. If you want the tanks to be updated at a later date to the 2A6 Model, please tell us. The Leopard 2A4 tank costs 2.15 Million Per Tank, so your total is 32,250,000 USD.
Also we are most happy that you wish to purchase the F-4s and at an increased price as well! 25 F4s at 7 Million USD would come to 175,000,000 USD. When added to the total from the Leopard 2A4s, it would come out to 207,250,000 USD.
We hope this is beginning of many business transactions between us.
Sincerely
German Confederation Defense Ministry.
Jaredcohenia
03-03-2007, 23:34
To: German Confederation Defense Ministry
Thank you for selling to us! Money will be wired shortly, thank you.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Dragiša Crvenkovski, Prime Minister
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
West Pacific
04-03-2007, 08:11
OOC: Since the request to send ships into the Black Sea was sent in an IC message it is more or less public knowledge.
SIC to Balkan Union:
Why would you allow foreign military vessels permission to pass into the Black Sea? The CCPS has no reason for sending troops into this fight other than to massacre civilians, which Russia seems to be taking care of on their own. You had better be getting some sort of nice kickback on the side, some sort of military technology or trade partnership. Now the EEU Navy has to keep track of an enemy fleet in our own backyard, our plan for defending the Ukraine of seaborne attack depends on keeping foreign vessels out of the Black Sea. I hope in the future you would consult your ally before making such decision.
[signed]
President Victor Shishenko
SIC to CCPS:
What is the purpose of your fleet that will be entering the Black Sea shortly? It can not by any definition of the word be peaceful and the only possibility is that you intend to engage in the senseless slaughter of innocent civilians. Note that your ships will be under constant, close proximity observation by both the EEU Navy and Air Force.
[signed]
President Victor Shishenko
IC to Germany:
We under stand fully the situation, one must look out for themselves first and foremost.
[signed]
Vitali Midovic, Minister of Finance
Jaredcohenia
04-03-2007, 08:25
SIC to EEU:
We are sorry, we shall close off the Dardanelles for the time being. We will inquire to them as to what their purpose into the Bosporus is, and also you do realize that all ships need to go through customs to pass the Bosporus, correct? At any point, we can tell a ship that they can not pass and must turn around. It seems silly that we would deny Portugal and Spain access through the Bosporus, as they might do the same should I request access through the Strait of Gibraltar (Not sure who controls it). While a member of the Serbian Orthodox Church, I do believe in Karma. What comes around goes around.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Dragiša Crvenkovski, Prime Minister
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
SIC: The CCPS
We are sorry, but we failed to include two points in our original contact.
1: What is your purpose going through the Bosporus? Why are you sending military vessels through it?
2: As I had a secretary write the message for me, she neglected to note that you were indeed sending military vessels through it. Military vessels by other nations as to which we have no relations with are not allowed through the Bosporus at this time. I am sorry.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Dragiša Crvenkovski, Prime Minister
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
Animarnia
04-03-2007, 08:54
TO: All Nations
The Animarnia Armed Forces is seeking to buy at least 30 GR9A Harrier "Jump Jet" VTOL aircraft for a reasonable price with more to follow if these are sucessful; we would also like to purchase some 24 A-10 "tank killer" Thunderbolt II's. given our southen neighbours aggressive tendancies. we are also interested in the price of the Eurofighter Typhoon.
Kopparbergs
04-03-2007, 10:43
Location: Mallorca Navy HQ, CCPS
"Almirante, this was just in, it's a reply from the Balkan Union. They're granting us permission to pass through the Bosporus!"
"Good, good! Send a message to Juan Carlos I and tell them they have the green light to pass through the Bosporus." said Almirante Santiago Ezquerro.
Lieutenant Victor Valdés immediately send the following message to the carrier battle group Juan Carlos I:
SIC Encrypted message to Juan Carlos I from Navy HQ, Mallorca, CCPS:
Permission to pass through Bosporus granted. Proceed as planned. End of message.
To: Commonwealth of Communist Portugal
As with all ships, you will be required to pay the toll to get through the Bosporus. Depending on the size of the ship, the price will be between 20 and 500 dollars per ship, closer to 500.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Dragiša Crvenkovski, Prime Minister
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
Afterwards he sent a reply to the Balkan Union:
IC to the Balkan Union:
We thank you for your kindness. We will pay what you demand to let us pass. Thank you!
Almirante Santiago Ezquerro
Navy HQ, Mallorca, CCPS
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Location: The Mediterranean, west of Crete, onboard at the carrier Juan Carlos I
Weather: Sunny, +24 C
Speed: 20 knots
Course: zero eight seven
Message incoming...
SIC Encrypted message to Juan Carlos I from Navy HQ, Mallorca, CCPS:
Permission to pass through Bosporus granted. Proceed as planned. End of message.
"Great, Mallorca fixed the permission. Increase speed to 22 knots, prepare to navigate through the Aegean Sea."
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Location: Mallorca Navy HQ, CCPS
45 minutes after the first message was in from the Balkan Union
SIC: The CCPS
We are sorry, but we failed to include two points in our original contact.
1: What is your purpose going through the Bosporus? Why are you sending military vessels through it?
2: As I had a secretary write the message for me, she neglected to note that you were indeed sending military vessels through it. Military vessels by other nations as to which we have no relations with are not allowed through the Bosporus at this time. I am sorry.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Dragiša Crvenkovski, Prime Minister
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
"Almirante, you must look at this message! We got another one from the Balkan Union!" said Lieutenant Victor Valdés.
"What the h*ll! What are they doing?!? They are withdrawing our permission to pass through the Bosporus! Dammit! We must take this to a higher level, seeing that it's their Prime Minister denying us. I'll let the President take care of this." said Almirante Santiago Ezquerro.
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Location: Madrid, the capital of CCPS. Partido Comunista de España (PCE) HQ
"Mr. President, we got a message from Navy HQ in Mallorca. They want you to speak with the president of the Balkan Union regarding a permission to pass through the Bosporus Strait."
President Francisco Frutos read through the messages from both Mallorca and The Balkan Union. He thought for a couple of minutes, before he wrote a reply to Prime Minister Dragiša Crvenkovski.
SIC to Prime Minister Dragiša Crvenkovski, The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
Mr. Crvenkovski,
We need to go through the Strait with a Carrier Battle group as we are going to assist our brothers in RSFSR with the campaign in Chechnya. If you let us pass through, I'm sure that the relation between CCPS and TBUoSE can, and will, grow into something fruitfull. Seeing that we both are Mediterranean countries we may need each others services sometimes, and that could be very difficult if one of the parts denies it. I'm sure that you, as the Prime Minister of The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe, can find out a way to let us pass through your Straits.
Signed,
Francisco Frutos, General Secretary of Partido Comunista de España (PCE)
President of the Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain
Kopparbergs
04-03-2007, 10:53
SIC to CCPS:
What is the purpose of your fleet that will be entering the Black Sea shortly? It can not by any definition of the word be peaceful and the only possibility is that you intend to engage in the senseless slaughter of innocent civilians. Note that your ships will be under constant, close proximity observation by both the EEU Navy and Air Force.
[signed]
President Victor Shishenko
SIC to EEU
We're going to assist our brothers in RFSSR with the campaign in Chechnya. You're right that it's not peaceful, but the bombs in Moscow and St. Petersburg was all but peaceful, and we cannot let that pass.
It's fine with us if you observe us in the Black Sea, we have nothing to hide. We are going to take military action, but not against the EEU or the Balkan Union. This is a kind of internal affair of the RFSSR, and they have asked us to assist them.
I'm sure you don't side with the barbarians who are responsible for the attacks in Moscow and St. Petersburg, but if you do I understand why you're worried over our presence in the Black Sea.
Signed,
Francisco Frutos, General Secretary of Partido Comunista de España (PCE)
President of the Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain
Candistan
04-03-2007, 19:06
Large Number of Refugees killed near Stratoy, Chechnya, RSFSR
About twenty miles south of the burning ruins of Stratoy, the Chechen defenders attempted yet again to hold back the Russians in an attempt for the Refugees to escape the country. A group of about two thousand refugees was heading down a road towards Georgia when three Su-27 Rooks flew overhead twice. On the first pass nothing happened, but the second pass produced one of the worst catastrophes of this war since the bombing of Moscow and St. Petersberg or the burning of Grozny. The aircraft dropped several airburst bombs containing an unknown chemical agent which then exploded and spread across the crowd. Although a small number escaped, most died. No cleanup effort has been made by either side so far, leaving the road a disgusting mass grave freezing in this cold Caucasus winter.
West Pacific
04-03-2007, 19:07
SIC to CCPS:
Of course we do not side with the barbarians who instigated these attacks against Russia, however we also do not side with the barbarians who are now murdering innocent women and children while making no attempt to find those who are responsible for these attacks, since the responsible parties almost certainly fled Russia before the attacks even took place.
[signed]
President Victor Shishenko
The Scandinvans
04-03-2007, 20:06
The Empire of Greater India seeks to buy the following items, yet we wish to see the different models, but offered in the quantities listed or in greater number depending on the price and quality offered.
1.2 million Assult Rifles
40,000 Sniper Rifles
320,000 Submachine Guns
80,000 Machine Guns
100,000 Mortars
20,000 Light Artillery Pieces
8,000 Heavy Artillery Pieces
8,000 Tanks
20,000 Troops Transports
1,200 Fighter Jets
1000 Heavy Bombers
8,000 Assualt Chopters
Ammo we pay for a constant flow of
We are willing to pary well for these items as well.
Signed,
Emperor of All IndiasThough we are still looking at the Chinese offer we would like again to put the offer out again due to our own reasons.
Jaredcohenia
04-03-2007, 20:09
Crvenkovski wasn't in the greatest mood, he had no idea what to do. Let them through, piss off his allies to the north. Deny them access, piss off the Spaniards and Portuguese. He sat at his desk, repeatedly smacking his forehead against the wooden table. An Albanian cleaner walked in and watched him. "What are you looking at?" He fled.
SIC to CCPS
I'm sure you're aware of the situation going on between my nation and the Italians. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. That's all I'm saying.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Dragiša Crvenkovski, Prime Minister
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
SIC to EEU
What is your input? I feel that in order to maintain a friendly relationship with CCPS, I must let them in. I'm on the eve of a war, Victor. They have control of part of the Med. and can help me defeat those damn Italians.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Dragiša Crvenkovski, Prime Minister
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
Kopparbergs
04-03-2007, 20:19
SIC
::Orders to Juan Carlos I::
Anchor up in the Aegean Sea. We're waiting for permission to pass through the Strait. We're also making discussions with the Nuevo Italian government about permission to go into a port in Crete while waiting.
::End of orders::
Kopparbergs
04-03-2007, 20:53
SIC to CCPS
I'm sure you're aware of the situation going on between my nation and the Italians. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. That's all I'm saying.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Dragiša Crvenkovski, Prime Minister
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
SIC to The Balkan Union
Dear Mr. Crvenkovski,
I thank you very much for your kindness. You wont regret this. We were just about to begin a discussion with Nuevo Italia, but I've cancelled it. I'm sure you understand what I'm saying.
Signed,
Francisco Frutos, General Secretary of Partido Comunista de España (PCE)
President of the Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain
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SIC
Location: The Mediterranean, just north of Crete, onboard at the carrier Juan Carlos I
Weather: Sunny, +19 C
Speed: 8 knots
Course: zero two nine
::Orders to Juan Carlos I::
You have permission to pass through the Strait, proceed as planned.
Navy HQ, Mallorca
::End of orders::
"Look! President Francisco made it! We've got permission to enter the Black Sea! He's really a great man Comrade Francisco!"
"Increase speed to 15 knots, go through the Aegean Sea towards the Dardanelles."
The Scandinvans
05-03-2007, 00:48
As for the order we are looking for the following subtypes designs from nation of orgin to be bought and since we need these within a few years we wish to look for
1.2 million Assult Rifles:
Russian
German
American
40,000 Sniper Rifles:
German
American
Chinese
320,000 Submachine Guns:
British
German
Chinese
80,000 Machine Guns:
Russian
American
100,000 Mortars:
Russian
Chinese
20,000 Light Artillery Pieces:
Chinese
Russian
8,000 Heavy Artillery Pieces:
American
8,000 Tanks:
American, Abrams
Russian
20,000 Troops Transports:
Any Type
1,200 Fighter Jets:
F-16s
F-18s
German
1000 Heavy Bombers:
American
B-52s
8,000 Assualt Chopters:
Commanches
American
Russian
Chinese
German
Basically, we are looking for people who produce these types of weaponary and we are looking to divide the production of these between a number of nations and companies.
Candistan
05-03-2007, 01:07
As for the order we are looking for the following subtypes designs from nation of orgin to be bought and since we need these within a few years we wish to look for
1.2 million Assult Rifles:
Russian
German
American
40,000 Sniper Rifles:
German
American
Chinese
320,000 Submachine Guns:
British
German
Chinese
80,000 Machine Guns:
Russian
American
100,000 Mortars:
Russian
Chinese
20,000 Light Artillery Pieces:
Chinese
Russian
8,000 Heavy Artillery Pieces:
American
8,000 Tanks:
American, Abrams
Russian
20,000 Troops Transports:
Any Type
1,200 Fighter Jets:
F-16s
F-18s
German
1000 Heavy Bombers:
American
B-52s
8,000 Assualt Chopters:
Commanches
American
Russian
Chinese
German
Basically, we are looking for people who produce these types of weaponary and we are looking to divide the production of these between a number of nations and companies.
The RSFSR, in wake of its recent tragedy, won't be able to ship weapons orders right now, but we will be able to sell you our T-90S's to you as per previous order, a large number of infantry weapons such as AK-108's, AK-74's, AN-94's, RPK-74M's, Pecheneg's, and Degtaryev RPD's.
West Pacific
05-03-2007, 06:02
SIC to Balkun Union:
Our input? Our input is that the CCPS ships should not allowed to enter the Black Sea for the reason of national security. Already we have a pissed off Russia to our north and east that is "flexing its military muscle" in Chechnya as they would call it, or as I put it, the last couple spasms of a dying animal. They are murdering innocent women and children in Chechnya and now the CCPS, being the cowardly dogs they are, have decided that they will send forces to help Russia in the name of solidarity amonst the Communist brothers. It's like two bullies beating up on one small kid for the simple reason that they are too stupid to know anything else, eventually that small kid will land a punch so solid that the bullies will have no choice but to relent. Look at Russia's reaction, in the two previous wars in Chechnya they turned what was a mostly pro-Russian civilian population into rebel sympathisers who wanted to see an independent Chechnya. Given Russia's refusal to cooperate we are quite certain they are behind the actions of the one called Vladimir and given their new militaristic policies there is little doubt in our minds that Russia intends to follow up on previous threats and attack the peaceful people of the EEU. The OISA also has reason to believe that the KGB was behind the actions of Vladimir, with information provided to us by a foreign government speaking under the condition of anonymity we are 90% confident that Russia provided Vladimir with funds so that he could conspire against the EEU. My government views war with Russia as inevitable, the only question being when they strike and where. Keeping our reserves mobilised is killing our budget, but we don't see any other options at this time. We do not want CCPS ships in the Black Sea because that is yet another threat we must worry about if and when war breaks out with Russia however I understand that the needs of your nation and its people supercedes our needs.
[signed]
President Victor Shishenko
Kopparbergs
05-03-2007, 21:36
The Spanish carrier Juan Carlos I, together with the eight additional ships steamed across the Aegean Sea, towards the Dardanelles. Their speed was varying between 10-20 knots due to the large amount of islands. When they came closer to the entrance to the Dardanelles, they slowed down, but their intention was not to stop.
Jaredcohenia
05-03-2007, 21:44
OOC: you notice how i never said that i'd let you in, actually saying you help me first then i'll help you?
just my two cents.
Kopparbergs
05-03-2007, 22:04
OOC: you notice how i never said that i'd let you in, actually saying you help me first then i'll help you?
just my two cents.
OOC: OK, I thought it was a deal. I'll edit my earlier post where they sailed through the Straits.
Daehanjeiguk
06-03-2007, 03:57
As for the order we are looking for the following subtypes designs from nation of orgin to be bought and since we need these within a few years we wish to look for
1.2 million Assult Rifles:
Russian
German
American
40,000 Sniper Rifles:
German
American
Chinese
320,000 Submachine Guns:
British
German
Chinese
80,000 Machine Guns:
Russian
American
100,000 Mortars:
Russian
Chinese
20,000 Light Artillery Pieces:
Chinese
Russian
8,000 Heavy Artillery Pieces:
American
8,000 Tanks:
American, Abrams
Russian
20,000 Troops Transports:
Any Type
1,200 Fighter Jets:
F-16s
F-18s
German
1000 Heavy Bombers:
American
B-52s
8,000 Assualt Chopters:
Commanches
American
Russian
Chinese
German
Basically, we are looking for people who produce these types of weaponary and we are looking to divide the production of these between a number of nations and companies.
Once we are done reorganizing our Agency for Imperial Contracts Consortium, the HAN Empire will be glad to offer your armed forces genuine HAN equipment. Until then, we cannot satisfy such desires.
The Scandinvans
06-03-2007, 04:03
To the Emperor of China:
Your Imperial Majesty Yi Myeongbok,
My lord, Emperor Harold of India, wishes to propose a marriage between his eldest son and heir, Arch Duke Robert, and one of your daughters so as to form a alliance between our nations so as to prevent a war and help to enrich both of our Empire’s whole. As well, we seek by doing this establish a powerful bond which will allow us to dominate Asia and to a great degree world affairs as our nation’s allow are might, but together our combined power can easily allow us to be able to set forth the pace of the world in our direction.
We hope that you agree to this offer.
Signed,
Servant of his Majesty Emperor Harold,
Imperial Chamberlain,
Duke of Manipur,
Lord Gerald Madison
The Scandinvans
06-03-2007, 04:20
Once we are done reorganizing our Agency for Imperial Contracts Consortium, the HAN Empire will be glad to offer your armed forces genuine HAN equipment. Until then, we cannot satisfy such desires.We thank you as we are looking forward to expanding our military beyond our current equipment since we cannot produce enough weaponary to fill our needs.
Animarnia
06-03-2007, 04:23
The Animarnia Government is seeking to purchase Eurofighter Typhoons for our national airforce; we would like to inquire how much these are per unit before deciding on the number we can currrently afford to buy
Daehanjeiguk
06-03-2007, 04:40
To the Emperor of China(1):
Your Imperial Majesty Yi Myeongbok(2),
My lord, Emperor Harold of India, wishes to propose a marriage between his eldest son and heir, Arch Duke Robert, and one of your daughters so as to form a alliance between our nations so as to prevent a war and help to enrich both of our Empire’s whole. As well, we seek by doing this establish a powerful bond which will allow us to dominate Asia and to a great degree world affairs as our nation’s allow are might, but together our combined power can easily allow us to be able to set forth the pace of the world in our direction.
We hope that you agree to this offer.
Signed,
Servant of his Majesty Emperor Harold,
Imperial Chamberlain,
Duke of Manipur,
Lord Gerald Madison
ooc: two big things - (1) Han Empire; (2) Gwangmu Emperor
(1) It's the Han Empire; the closest thing emulating China is "Qin", but as I have stated, it's not China. It would be better stated "To His Imperial Majesty, the Gwangmu Emperor", bringing to my next point;
(2) I'm glad that you've actually found my Emperor's personal name, but I'm not so glad that you've called him that name. Of course, I never told anyone the difference between "Yi Myeongbok" and "Gwangmu", but as is the custom in most Asian countries, Kings and Emperors were given three names (at least): the personal name (or birth name - only very close family referred to him by his family name); the temple name (sometimes era name, which is technically different than the temple name, but they serve similar purposes; in Korea and Japan, the temple name was the name by which most people referred to the Emperor); and the posthumous name (in countries, it is the longest name that anyone will ever have, as it includes all of his titles earned in life and death - so if some future Emperor really really liked you, he could perhaps burden you by adding a couple names onto your posthumous title; of course, for pratical reasons, most people forget it).
For my Emperor, "Yi Myeongbok" is something that his wife would call him in private. For everyone else, "Gwangmu" is his given temple name. Considering that he's still alive, he has no posthumous name.
But that said, having cleared two very important things, I will continue to the bulk of my IC response:
To His Imperial Majesty's Emissary, the Imperial Chamberlain, Duke of Manipur, Lord Gerald Madison - for His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Harold of Greater India(?):
His Imperial Majesty wishes to acknowledge your Majesty's wishes, and though the idea still vexes him, His Imperial Majesty will consider the proposal. He will meditate on this idea and hopes to allay fears that he ignores your requests. When he has decided, His Imperial Majesty will send word immediately.
Empire of Han
http://wiki.galbijim.com/images/2/20/Korea-arms2.gif
(?) I presume that you are the Greater Empire of India?
Also, last ooc comment - the historical precedent for a royal marriage with China [link enclosed] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_Li_Po)
The Scandinvans
06-03-2007, 04:55
ooc: two big things - (1) Han Empire; (2) Gwangmu Emperor
(1) It's the Han Empire; the closest thing emulating China is "Qin", but as I have stated, it's not China. It would be better stated "To His Imperial Majesty, the Gwangmu Emperor", bringing to my next point;
(2) I'm glad that you've actually found my Emperor's personal name, but I'm not so glad that you've called him that name. Of course, I never told anyone the difference between "Yi Myeongbok" and "Gwangmu", but as is the custom in most Asian countries, Kings and Emperors were given three names (at least): the personal name (or birth name - only very close family referred to him by his family name); the temple name (sometimes era name, which is technically different than the temple name, but they serve similar purposes; in Korea and Japan, the temple name was the name by which most people referred to the Emperor); and the posthumous name (in countries, it is the longest name that anyone will ever have, as it includes all of his titles earned in life and death - so if some future Emperor really really liked you, he could perhaps burden you by adding a couple names onto your posthumous title; of course, for pratical reasons, most people forget it).
For my Emperor, "Yi Myeongbok" is something that his wife would call him in private. For everyone else, "Gwangmu" is his given temple name. Considering that he's still alive, he has no posthumous name.
But that said, having cleared two very important things, I will continue to the bulk of my IC response:
To His Imperial Majesty's Emissary, the Imperial Chamberlain, Duke of Manipur, Lord Gerald Madison - for His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Harold of Greater India(?):
His Imperial Majesty wishes to acknowledge your Majesty's wishes, and though the idea still vexes him, His Imperial Majesty will consider the proposal. He will meditate on this idea and hopes to allay fears that he ignores your requests. When he has decided, His Imperial Majesty will send word immediately.
Empire of Han
http://wiki.galbijim.com/images/2/20/Korea-arms2.gif
(?) I presume that you are the Greater Empire of India?
Also, last ooc comment - the historical precedent for a royal marriage with China [link enclosed] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_Li_Po)OOC: Sorry, for that and thanking you for pointing as you only learn through experince.:D
To note my nation is named the Empire of Greater India in the context that that my Empire controls the Indian subcontinent and as well my nation is dominated by Europeans, as you most likely know, such as my people tend to take up the cultural role as rulers so the one you mentioned should look good as the Chinese dynasties of the past often married their daugthers to foreign nations in order to make alliances and keep the peace.
IC:
To His Imperial Majesty of the Empire of Han,
Emperor Gwangmu,
We thank you for agreeing to take though on our proposal and we hope that you agree to it and my Emperor is pleased to note this. As well, we shall give you the time you need to properly calculate your answer and come to a conclusion that you see is for the best.
Signed,
Servant of his Majesty Emperor Harold,
Imperial Chamberlain,
Duke of Manipur,
Lord Gerald Madison
The Animarnia Government is seeking to purchase Eurofighter Typhoons for our national airforce; we would like to inquire how much these are per unit before deciding on the number we can currrently afford to buy
OOC: Considering the the only the other users of the Typhoon are inactive, I'm your best best. Also, the Typhoon is a reletively new fighter and my production of the Air-craft will all go to me. So your chances of getting any Typhoons soon is very very small. And I can't extend an LPR to you because of the reletive newness, so your out of luck. That is unless one of the other users becomes active. But I can atleast give you the price ICly.
IC:
To: Animarnia (I forgot the Formal Name Dx)
From: the German Confederation
The Eurofighter Typhoon's current cost is 125 Million USD Per Plane and that's just the export Model.
Sincerely
The German Confederation.
Daehanjeiguk
07-03-2007, 19:56
OOC: Sorry, for that and thanking you for pointing as you only learn through experince.:D
To note my nation is named the Empire of Greater India in the context that that my Empire controls the Indian subcontinent and as well my nation is dominated by Europeans, as you most likely know, such as my people tend to take up the cultural role as rulers so the one you mentioned should look good as the Chinese dynasties of the past often married their daugthers to foreign nations in order to make alliances and keep the peace.
IC:
To His Imperial Majesty of the Empire of Han,
Emperor Gwangmu,
We thank you for agreeing to take though on our proposal and we hope that you agree to it and my Emperor is pleased to note this. As well, we shall give you the time you need to properly calculate your answer and come to a conclusion that you see is for the best.
Signed,
Servant of his Majesty Emperor Harold,
Imperial Chamberlain,
Duke of Manipur,
Lord Gerald Madison
To His Imperial Majesty's Emissary, the Imperial Chamberlain, Duke of Manipur, Lord Gerald Madison - for His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Harold of Greater India(?):
His Imperial Majesty has considered the proposal, and having reviewed the benefits of such a marriage, in His Celestial beneficence and wisdom, He has chosen to deny the marriage of a daughter of Han to a son of India. At the present, there are irreconcilable differences that His Imperial Majesty feels need resolution before He can tangibly permit a member of the Court to part for the Court in India. His Imperial Majesty apologizes for any inconvenience that this may cause, but hopes that the Indian Court may find a suitable replacement for His Imperial Majesty's daughter.
Empire of Han
http://wiki.galbijim.com/images/2/20/Korea-arms2.gif
Animarnia
08-03-2007, 16:47
SIC:
As Each of the F-23 Black Widow II's were delivered to the Animarnia state they were put right back into Animarnia factories for retrofit; arriving 6 per month gave little overhead if they wanted an operational 72 of them by the end of the year. The electronics were to be replaced on each unit with an Animarnia built Forward-looking radar with a range of 150 miles; Avionics were also updated with fly by wire systems to equate with the American F/A-18 standard. It certainly wouldn't be taking on F-22A Raptors any time soon but it would easily serve the needs of the Animarnia airforce and out perform the current Mig-31's on every conceivable scale. The aircraft wasn't perfect but it had few glaring flaws the missile drop bay would have to be altered to fix an issue that came up during initial combat testing where a missile could Jam. This would be fixed by changing the locking mechanism and missile arrangement slightly to prevent Jams.
It was Estimated that each upgrade would take a month; with six arriving in the beginning of the month; modified and then rolled out into active service at the end of the month. This routine would keep up for five years; eventually five years from now some 360 F-23A Aircraft would be altered like this
Oskar Svensson, Minister of Defense
To All Nations of the World,
The Scandinavian State of Futuris is looking for a good Spec. Ops. assault rifle for our Special Forces. We have looked at the German HK 416, the Isrealite IMI Tavor TAR-21, and the American XM8.
The Scandinavian State of Futuris
Animarnia
09-03-2007, 07:33
SIC:
'North pole' Research base today began a secret project. North pole is the code named for Animarnia's most secret R&D Facility located 'somewhere in the first step in this project was acquiring abandoned research from Canadian Biotechnical laboratory "Nexia" for 1 billion USD. The exact nature of the research is sketchy but it is believed to be genetic in nature pertaining to artificially woven spider silk or some kind of new organic alloy. Canadian research was abandoned in 2000 after funding for the project was cut off Animarnia will be dedicating some 40% of its research budget to the project over the next 10 years; even though its not likely to see any returns for at least 3 years more likely 5. Another 40% will go into the development of 'carbon nanotubes'
Very Secret IC
Internal Report
North Pole Research and Development Facility
For the attention of: General Minoru Kenshin and Director Hurisaki
Code: Black
Project: K145X
Code Name: Project Katsuragi
Project Overview
The purpose of this project is to create Organic Carbon Nanotubes constructed of artificially engineered Spider silk. Engineering a spider silk gland to various creatures to attempt to get the best results it will create the Spider silk. Attempts to cross engineer a 'super spider' or implant it into other creatures such as a goat, silk worm, hagfish or other mammals so that this can be used on an industrial scale.
The engineered gland and spinneret will create gradient of protein concentration, pH, and pressure, which will drive the protein solution through liquid crystalline phase transitions, ultimately generating the required silk structure the actually silk structure is a mixture of crystalline and amorphous biopolymer. Reproducing the actual protein has been proven possible seven years ago; however engineering a spinneret has proven more difficult and due to lack of funding research was shelved. This is what we now hope to continue with modern advances in nanotechnolgy we believe it possible to now engineer an artificial spinneret into the gland. Woven together like fabric this will be incredibly strong and flexible similar to 'myrhril' of the fantasy genre. However if woven into nanotubeual like structures it is possible to create a spider silk plate which we believe could be 23 x stronger than base steel and have a melting point of roughly 7000 Kelvin but still retain a very light weight perhaps less than aluminium. If successful Animarnia will have cornered a new market in 'silk steel alloys'
Cost
The Project will take 5% from the Defence Budget; 5% from Health care Budget, 2% from Law and Order, and 80% from the Research and Development Budget coming to a total of $29.8 Billion of Funding Per Year for the next 10 Years. A total of 298 billion will have been spent on Project K when it is estimated to be complete and developed to a viable product. However estimates put the project entering experimental production in 5 years.
Possible Military Applications
Aircraft Airframes
Body Armour
Tank Armour
Next Generation Armour Penetrating Bullets (NXAP)
Stealth Potential
Possible Civilian applications
Construction equipment
Lightweight heavy duty lifting gear
Heat Containment systems.
OOC Refernaces:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_silk
http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~ellisom/biomimeticmaterials/files/spiderbiology.htm
http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/271204_tech.htm
http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/reprint/202/23/3295.pdf
http://www.newscientisttech.com/article.ns?id=dn9316&feedId=online-news_rss20
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_nanotube
http://www.pa.msu.edu/cmp/csc/NTSite/nanopage.html
http://students.chem.tue.nl/ifp03/Wondrous%20World%20of%20Carbon%20Nanotubes_Final.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensile_strength
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silkworm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagfish
Daehanjeiguk
09-03-2007, 16:19
Oskar Svensson, Minister of Defense
To All Nations of the World,
The Scandinavian State of Futuris is looking for a good Spec. Ops. assault rifle for our Special Forces. We have looked at the German HK 416, the Isrealite IMI Tavor TAR-21, and the American XM8.
The Scandinavian State of Futuris
The Agency for Imperial Contracts wishes to offer a weapon, made specifically for this purpose. A while back, the Han Empire saw reason to craft such a weapon for our own intelligence forces. Its use is noted among our forces as practical and ultimately efficient.
* 경기관단총족05 (轻機關短銃族05) (http://blog.naver.com/jhc78812?Redirect=Log&logNo=40022597306) [GGGDJ-05]
Type Submachine Gun
Place of origin Han Empire
Manufacturer Daewoo [대우 (大宇)]
Weight 2.87 kg (unloaded)
Length 800 mm
Barrel length 263 mm
Cartridge 5.8x42mm / 5.56x45 mm (export version)
Action Gas-operated [direct impingement], rotating bolt
Rate of Fire 800 rounds/min
Muzzle Velocity 920 m/s
Effective Range 250 m
Capacity 30-round magazine
Sights Iron sights
COST ---
NOTES: GGGDJ-05 comes with silenced muzzle,
and is a cheaper domestic variant of the MP5SD3,
used primarily by SPF units - stats may not be accurate.
We hope that you will at least preview this weapon and determine for yourselves whether or not this suits your needs in any capacity. If it does, please visit our consortium at the following address:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519727
The Board of Directors wishes to thank you for your prospective business, and we hope that our other equipment will find a use in your armed forces.
Count Yu Deukgong [柳得恭 (유득공)]
His Imperial Majesty's Special Economic Representative and Board Director
West Pacific
09-03-2007, 18:57
SIC:
As Each of the F-23 Black Widow II's were delivered to the Animarnia state they were put right back into Animarnia factories for retrofit
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!
Why is this so difficult for you to understand? An aircraft doesn't go from in development to cancelled to full production overnight.
Oskar Svensson, Minister of Defense
To All Nations of the World,
The Scandinavian State of Futuris is looking for a good Spec. Ops. assault rifle for our Special Forces. We have looked at the German HK 416, the Isrealite IMI Tavor TAR-21, and the American XM8.
The Scandinavian State of Futuris
To: The Scandinavian State of Futuris
From: K&K Military Industries
We would be more then happy to provide you with the 416. We can only sell you a few thousand as of now, because it's not designed to be a Mass-Produced Weapon. The export price is at a slightly more expensive price then they G36 at 2250 USD per model. We will however, in good faith lower the price to 2050 USD, if you will sign an agreement not to use them against H&K or the German Confederation in the next 4 years.
Sincerely
H&K Military Industries
The MEC would like to request that The Greater Empire of India allows us to claim Bangladesh. A Joint-operation could be possible.
Kopparbergs
09-03-2007, 20:49
SIC to The Balkan Union
Mr. Crvenkovski,
I'm having a great problem here. I'm having a carrier battle group outside the Dardanelles, and they must go through the Dardanelles and the Bosporus. I thought we had a deal here... I'm going to "scratch your back regarding Greece" as you said earlier, but if you want me to do that you must let my carrier pass through.
Signed,
Francisco Frutos, General Secretary of Partido Comunista de España (PCE)
President of the Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain
Animarnia
10-03-2007, 01:08
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!
Why is this so difficult for you to understand? An aircraft doesn't go from in development to cancelled to full production overnight.
Yeah cos we can have commies in spain, a Soviet union that never fell, a japan that conqured part of Sibera, a Korean china and other factual inaccuracies but one backwater pissant african nation using a flighter that may have actually been finished but was never put into production is so inherently wrong
:rolleyes:
To: The Scandinavian State of Futuris
From: K&K Military Industries
We would be more then happy to provide you with the 416. We can only sell you a few thousand as of now, because it's not designed to be a Mass-Produced Weapon. The export price is at a slightly more expensive price then they G36 at 2250 USD per model. We will however, in good faith lower the price to 2050 USD, if you will sign an agreement not to use them against H&K or the German Confederation in the next 4 years.
Sincerely
H&K Military Industries
Ludvik Kjaer, Minister of Trade
To the German Confederation,
We would like to purchase 11,000 HK 416's, and at 2050 USD for each one (since we will not be using them on you in the next 4 years) should come around to be around 22.55 million USD. As soon as you have them ready, we can arrange a port for us to pick them up.
We hope that, as with the G36's, this can be the continuation of a prosperous trading relationship between our two countries.
The Scandinavian State of Futuris
Oskar Svensson, Minister of Defense
To All Nations of the World,
In these times when tensions rise and hostilities increase between countries around the world, a good air force can be both a good weapon of war, necessary for survival, as well as dedicated part of civilian duties. Now, civilian planes, although helpful, are not very costly, or very hard to produce. It is the fighters and heavy bombers that can win wars and ensure your stay on this Earth. And there are many fine fighters out there, from different nations, and different designs and purposes. But which one is the right one? Several of the best fighters in the world, the United States (mainly) currently owns, and will not sell for now. Others, are extremely expensive, or very cheap because of poor quality. Others still are outdated, or have not yet gone into production. So which one is the right one?
I believe, that the main fighter for the Scandinavian Air Force, the Saab JAS-39 Gripen, is the perfect choice. It is better than what most countries' air forces consider 'normal', it is not relatively expensive, but the money spent is not lost. The Gripen is in relative abundance (to us), so if ordered, shipping can begin immediately. Nor is it outdated, standing by several of the world's most advanced fighters available. The JAS-39 Gripen is the most that you can buy with your money, a very good quality aircraft, capable of almost all missions, and available. It can be the perfect solution to your country's air force problems and needs, the light to shine ahead for any outdated aircraft and/or poor quality merchandise.
Now, as our factories have sprung up producing the Gripen's, we hereby make an exclusive offer. The first two nations (excluding Animarnia) that buy the Gripen's from us, can buy their first 10 at 40 million USD (as opposed to 50 million as the normal price) while the rest will retain their normal value.
On this Earth, and in these troubled times, the need for a good air force may come sooner than you think. Already, terrorists have blown up Moscow and St. Petersburg in the RSFSR with nuclear weapons, a terrible calamity. Now, threats are being hurdled across the land, promises of alliances, the true meaning of what nations are saying hidden beneath, encased in a cloud of vengeance and conspiracy. What if your nation is next? What if your people suffer because you do not have the necessary air force to dispatch with the enemy? What if those air craft that you ordered don't come in until in a few years, when it will already be too late? Now is the time to take up the reins, and make a worthy choice, a worthy purchase. Just in case.
The Scandinavian State of Futuris
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAS-39_Gripen
http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviation/gripen/
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/gripen/
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/gripen.htm
http://www.zap16.com/mil%20fact/saab%20jas39%20gripen.htm (http://www.zap16.com/mil%20fact/saab%20jas39%20gripen.htm)
http://ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2000/04/stuff_eng_detail_gripen.htm
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/sweden/saab/jas_39/gripen.htm
West Pacific
10-03-2007, 07:45
Yeah cos we can have commies in spain, a Soviet union that never fell, a japan that conqured part of Sibera, a Korean china and other factual inaccuracies but one backwater pissant african nation using a flighter that may have actually been finished but was never put into production is so inherently wrong
:rolleyes:
Hey, you can have them, the aircraft just needs to be developed first.
Animarnia
10-03-2007, 10:13
SIC:
Today Animarnai put into development the XM1 SCRAP Top Down Tungsten Needle Shell; the new Shell will take 6 months to a year to develop and will use new Liquid Propelents and a Ramjet to increase muzzel Velocity. the Shell is estimated that it will leave the cannon at 2,900 meters per second though this is uncomfirmed and subject to change depending on the cannon firing the shell. the round will use a shaped cone explosive to shower a tank with 1000 2mm Tungsten Needles at high velocity in theory so damaging the tank as to make it inoperable,
tests have also began on a new Tank Gun in the size of 120mm-135mm whether of not this will be ETC or coventional is unknown at this time.
Ludvik Kjaer, Minister of Trade
To the German Confederation,
We would like to purchase 11,000 HK 416's, and at 2050 USD for each one (since we will not be using them on you in the next 4 years) should come around to be around 22.55 million USD. As soon as you have them ready, we can arrange a port for us to pick them up.
We hope that, as with the G36's, this can be the continuation of a prosperous trading relationship between our two countries.
The Scandinavian State of Futuris
To: The Scandinavian State of Futuris
From: H&K Military Industries
Yes the price should come to 22.55 Million USD. We are willing to ship them to any port you so choose, but it's in your best interests that it be close to the German Coast, as it costs us more money to ship farther. We then add these costs on when the delivery is made.
Sincerely
H&K Military Industries.
To: The Scandinavian State of Futuris
From: H&K Military Industries
Yes the price should come to 22.55 Million USD. We are willing to ship them to any port you so choose, but it's in your best interests that it be close to the German Coast, as it costs us more money to ship farther. We then add these costs on when the delivery is made.
Sincerely
H&K Military Industries.
Ludvik Kjaer, Minister of Trade
To the German Confederation,
It is fine, to save shipping costs, we can either arrange a city on the border between Germany and Denmark, or we can pick them up from a port on the German coast. If both of these are impossible, then you can ship them to Copenhagen, Denmark, which is probably the closest largest city to your coastal cities. We will pay upon delivery.
We thank you for your assistance in this trade deal, and hope sincerely that it is not the last between our two countries.
The Scandinavian State of Futuris
Daehanjeiguk
11-03-2007, 06:56
東歐聯合 {동구련합}
His Imperial Majesty has received indication that your government's official wishes to confer with him. Despite his busy schedule, His Imperial Majesty has decided to grant audience to His Imperial Majesty's Emissary from the East European Union. We eagerly await his arrival.
GREAT HAN EMPIRE
http://wiki.galbijim.com/images/2/20/Korea-arms2.gif
SIC/OOC:
His Imperial Majesty wishes to inquire if such a previous accorded invitation has been reconsidered.
Jaredcohenia
11-03-2007, 07:24
(OOC: I'm not sure if anyone wants to RP as Greece accepting/declining.)
SIC:
To: The Greek Populace
We both know that the history between our two nations is vast, a rogue nation took you away from our glorious empire and our histories are apart.
We offer you one hundred fifty billion dollars to rejoin the former Byzantine Empire, and with that we will help return several marbles that have been taken from Athens by museums and what not.
Rejoin former Byzantium, Greece. It is a great opportunity, our two nations will be reunited under the glorious flag of the Byzantine Empire!
President Zoran Koštunica
Zoran Koštunica
(OOC: I'm not sure if anyone wants to RP as Greece accepting/declining.)
SIC:
To: The Greek Populace
We both know that the history between our two nations is vast, a rogue nation took you away from our glorious empire and our histories are apart.
We offer you one hundred fifty billion dollars to rejoin the former Byzantine Empire, and with that we will help return several marbles that have been taken from Athens by museums and what not.
Rejoin former Byzantium, Greece. It is a great opportunity, our two nations will be reunited under the glorious flag of the Byzantine Empire!
President Zoran Koštunica
Zoran Koštunica
OOC: I could RP Greece, if that's fine with everyone....if not, it's okay. I hope that I'm not too reactive, but in RL, I doubt that a country would "surrender" for money.
IC:
He reviewed the letter again, pondering silently while smoking a cigar. He had a fine dark mustache, heavy dark eyebrows, and a set jaw. The thick smoke curled up near the ceiling, creating a feeling of old bars and dusty pool tables. His secretary stepped in.
"Sir, the media wants to know what the course of action will be. They're just outside the hallway. Are you ready?"
"Ehh...just a second. I need to do something, I'll be right there."
"Sir, I'll be waiting. 5 minutes."
Athos Brakus was a rather large man, heavily built, but he had quick and slender fingers, and he wrote rather quickly.
__________________________________________
Athos Brakus, President of Greece
To the Balkan Union,
We, the People of Greece, refuse your cowardly request for us to stand aside our history, our culture, the sacrifices of our ancestors, to you. Money can be spent, can be stolen, can be lost, and money, will in the long run, be gone. While money will not survive to our descendants, our ancestors survived, they fought, they stood their ground for what they thought was right. And they have left a country that is still there. Bribes cannot pay for that. If it did not make sense the first time, we shall say it again: We refuse. The Armed Forces of Greece await the day that you fail in utter defeat at this sight that you have upon you. Goodbye.
The Hellenic Republic of Greece
Jaredcohenia
11-03-2007, 08:10
SIC:
To: Athos Brakus, Greece
The Hellenic Army is something I've considered, and you know about our massive border disputes. Mr. Brakus, one day your nation will be under a united flag of the Balkans and Anatolia. I am not a man who wants war to shed in the peaks of the Balkans; rather a man who wants a new, peaceful union from Ljubljana to Athens to Ankara to Bucharest. War is my last resort in order to unify a nation of Serbs, Albanians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Turks, and Greeks.
I hope that in time you will change your mind.
President Zoran Koštunica
Zoran Koštunica
Animarnia
11-03-2007, 14:43
Animarnia Landwarrior Arms Inc Today began development of the new AR-12 Assault Rifle which will take designs features into account of the Previous AR designs that did not enter Service and the British SA-L85A2 and AK-47. as this is a private venture and not government funded it is expected that the inital testing weapon will be produced near the end of 2008; with testing to be complete mid 2009 if the rifle is sucessful it will enter production for Export near the end of 2009.
When Asked for comment; Mr Akito Tenkawa and Mr Ubake said; "the Design will be revolutionary; bringing with it a round capable of penitrating Level IV body armour; combining the acurracy and ease use and reloading of the SA-80 and reliability and durability of the AK line. its gonna be a real peice of work"
This is one of Several projects Animarnia Landwarrior Arms Inc is said to be working on however Mr Tenkawa refused to comment on any other projects that may or may not be in development.
SIC:
Athos Brakus, President of Greece
To the Balkan Union,
Indeed, we can see how a union or mutual alliance of sorts between our nations could work, but we think that, right now, it is only an alliance, a joining to a union. Greece does not wish to be under your power, but to share the power our nations have. That would be an acceptable term to us. We could have a sort of military or trade alliance that could benefit us both. Note, that although we refused your request last time, we did not declare war. Greece has also no intention to spill blood in the Balkans, but we cannot give up our country so easily. I spoke with hate and vengeance last time, but that was only because of the immediate repulsion of your request. I'm sure that by creating a peaceful alliance and union, our two nations can establish a powerful force in economics and politics in this region of the world.
The Hellenic Republic of Greece
Daehanjeiguk
11-03-2007, 22:16
===PRESS RELEASE===
The Ministry of Defense has finalized reports on the modifications of the Imperial Forces, as commanded by His Imperial Majesty - the Gwangmu Emperor - and has thence publicized those reports, as needed to provide transparency of His Imperial Majesty's forces to its people.
Daehanjeiguk
12-03-2007, 19:45
The Imperial Han Navy is currently reviewing prospects of force projection, to cope with the great deal of expansionist tendencies currently being undertaken. After review, it has been decided that the purchase of existing force projection equipment would be more economic and thereby the preferred solution. Therefore, it is the interest of the Imperial Navy to procure rights to first test each of the vessels submitted below and after subsequent approval acquire at minimum three of each:
* AIP submarine
* gas-powered/nuclear-powered carrier [first option is the preferred choice]
* cruiser vessel
* carrier-fitted aircraft
* helicopters [attack, patrol, and medical]
* to be updated when a new acquisition is perceived
All prospective manufacturers ought consult the Imperial Office of Naval Research and Development with details on the vessel/craft being offered and likewise a subsequent record of the history of the vessel/craft in combat situations if applicable. The Imperial Naval Department wishes to thank all those interested in this project and perceives that much good fortune will come to those who supply details. The Imperial Navy likewise reminds all prospective sellers that we will not purchase equipment necessarily because it is offered; we are conducting this survey to determine the best possibilities and procure equipment that best suits the needs of the Imperial Han Navy, and thus reserves all rights not to purchase anything offered - although we hope that we can find something that is worthwhile to purchase.
The Imperial Han Navy is currently reviewing prospects of force projection, to cope with the great deal of expansionist tendencies currently being undertaken. After review, it has been decided that the purchase of existing force projection equipment would be more economic and thereby the preferred solution. Therefore, it is the interest of the Imperial Navy to procure rights to first test each of the vessels submitted below and after subsequent approval acquire at minimum three of each:
* AIP submarine
* gas-powered/nuclear-powered carrier [first option is the preferred choice]
* cruiser vessel
* carrier-fitted aircraft
* helicopters [attack, patrol, and medical]
* to be updated when a new acquisition is perceived
All prospective manufacturers ought consult the Imperial Office of Naval Research and Development with details on the vessel/craft being offered and likewise a subsequent record of the history of the vessel/craft in combat situations if applicable. The Imperial Naval Department wishes to thank all those interested in this project and perceives that much good fortune will come to those who supply details. The Imperial Navy likewise reminds all prospective sellers that we will not purchase equipment necessarily because it is offered; we are conducting this survey to determine the best possibilities and procure equipment that best suits the needs of the Imperial Han Navy, and thus reserves all rights not to purchase anything offered - although we hope that we can find something that is worthwhile to purchase.
OOC: Where's your Imperial Office of Naval Research and Development? Should I use your AIC thread or this thread, or something else?
Carl Jacobsson, Minister of Foreign Affairs
To All Democratic Nations of Europe,
The Scandinavian State of Futuris hereby wishes to propose an alliance between all democratic nations of Europe. Participating members can vote on the actual name of the alliance later. Details as follow.
Requirements
Your nation must reside in Europe.
Your nation cannot be communist, very strongly socialist, fascist, totalitarian.
Your nation's government cannot be anarchy, autocracy, theocracy, strong monarchy, oligarchy, aristocracy, despotism.
Your nation must be democratic in a strong sense.
Your nation must be a direct democracy, representative democracy, parliament, constitutional monarchy, or republic.
Your nation must have a standing army.
Even if your nation meets all these requirements, it does not mean that it is necessarily 'in'. Your nation will be reviewed by the members of alliance, and your admittance will be voted on.
Duties to Alliance
If a nation is accepted as a member of this alliance, they must....
Adhere to all decisions accepted through votes by council.
Not attack any member of the alliance as long as they are both in it.
Provide military aid to members of alliance if asked for.
Provide economic aid to members of alliance if asked for.
Note: Council may always vote on declining requests of individual members if need is insufficient.
Abolish all tariffs between members (including shipping costs).
Trade fairly with members - be helpful if desired product is unavailable for sale.
Remove espionage networks from members' nations.
Note: Council may always add by majority vote any further duties that members of alliance are responsible for.
The Council
The Council is basically each and every nation in the alliance. Since everyone in the alliance is automatically part of the Council, and thus able to vote on a number of different issues, this further displays the democratic style of the alliance.
The Council can change, add, and remove and rule in the alliance. Issues are decided by a majority vote. If there is a tie, nations explain their viewpoints again persuasively, and vote again. If there is still a tie, then the matter is unresolved for the time being, and each nation can do as they wish regarding the issue.
Exceptions
Two nations of the alliance can go to war if they conducted espionage in each other's country.
Two nations of the alliance can go to war if they agree with themselves that they must go to war.
Two nations of the alliance can go to war if a request from the other was purposefully broken, sometimes once, sometimes many times (i.e. hostilities increase to unbearable point)
Voting
If member of alliance does not follow 'rules' or 'duties' of alliance, Council could eradicate the nation from the alliance.
If the need arises, Council can vote on sending military/economic aid to member of alliance even when not asked for (i.e. rebellion, civil war)
Council can vote on mandatory military aid to countries around the world to ensure civil rights and peace.
Council can vote on making certain technologies illegal, others mandatory.
Council can vote on environmental issues (requiring greener technologies, decreasing pollution from factories, etc.)
Council can vote on changing requirements.
Council can vote on allowing nations in that do not meet requirements.
This is our government's proposal for the alliance, it can be debated with nations involved. We are thinking that the common currency inside the alliance can be called the 'credit'. Again, all of the listed ideas can be debated and changed before the alliance is actually established. We hope, that this alliance can make for a better and safer Europe, and ultimately, world.
The Scandinavian State of Futuris
Daehanjeiguk
13-03-2007, 01:27
OOC: Where's your Imperial Office of Naval Research and Development? Should I use your AIC thread or this thread, or something else?
The Director of the Imperial Office of Naval Research wakes up from a dream, "TAKE IT TO THE AIC!" His wife, startled at his wild tirade asks him what vexes him so much.
He realizes his surroundings and dismisses his nightmarish visions. "아무것도." {Nothing.}
ooc: It is often said that the only thing more threatening to democracies than standing armies is the establishment of banks. It's quite ironic that you require democratic states to have armies :D.
The Director of the Imperial Office of Naval Research wakes up from a dream, "TAKE IT TO THE AIC!" His wife, startled at his wild tirade asks him what vexes him so much.
He realizes his surroundings and dismisses his nightmarish visions. "아무것도." {Nothing.}
ooc: It is often said that the only thing more threatening to democracies than standing armies is the establishment of banks. It's quite ironic that you require democratic states to have armies :D.
OOC: Well, the standing army is for protection and military aid. Plus, I'm mainly considering this for the democratic states that are actually in Earth SYAE in Europe. All of them have standing armies. If someone joins SYAE in Europe and does not have a standing army, the 'Council' can vote to change that requirement. I'm afraid, that some countries are going to be like "Well, I don't have a 'standing army' so I don't need to help any members of the alliance!" since that would take money and effort to give military aid to others. Refusal to do so in turn increases hostilities in the alliance, and a general degradation of diplomatic relations in Europe.
On another note, I don't exactly see how standing armies threaten democracies....or how banks threateten democracies either.
West Pacific
13-03-2007, 20:50
To: The Scandinavian State of Futuris
Your offer shows promise but this is not something that can be decided upon by simply reading a newspaper article. A conference is needed to discuss the terms of this proposed alliance. If you were willing to host the conference I would be willing to attend to represent the EEU and discuss the terms.
[signed]
Rudolf Ludwik, Foreign Minister
West Pacific
13-03-2007, 21:04
Ministry of Defense Announces "Shopping List" for FY2008
The Ministry of Defense announced that they were planning on spending approximately 40 billion USD in the coming year on procurement of new weapons systems for the Army and Air Force. Highest on the list were new fighters, interceptors and fighter/bombers for the Air Force as well as a cheap MBT that the Army could field in mass numbers to counter a "foreign threat". The only possible threat at this time would be the RSFSR, who is currently practicing genocide in Chechnya and with 19,000 MBT's they are the only nation in Europe with more armored vehicles than the EEU. The Army had planned to purchase the M-95 Degmen from the Balkan Union however that plan fell through when the Balkan Union said they would only sell the EEU 25 vehicles, hardly enough to make a dent on any battlefield. In addition to a new, cheap MBT the Army is interested in fielding a new helicopter gunship and announced that it would be hosting a competition to test different systems, all of the world's largest manufacturers have been invited to send their products to be tested.
Kopparbergs
13-03-2007, 21:27
Carl Jacobsson, Minister of Foreign Affairs
To All Democratic Nations of Europe,
The Scandinavian State of Futuris hereby wishes to propose an alliance between all democratic nations of Europe. Participating members can vote on the actual name of the alliance later. Details as follow.
Requirements
Your nation must reside in Europe.
Your nation cannot be communist, very strongly socialist, fascist, totalitarian.
Your nation's government cannot be anarchy, autocracy, theocracy, strong monarchy, oligarchy, aristocracy, despotism.
Your nation must be democratic in a strong sense.
Your nation must be a direct democracy, representative democracy, parliament, constitutional monarchy, or republic.
Your nation must have a standing army.
The Scandinavian State of Futuris
Location: Madrid, the capital of CCPS. Partido Comunista de España (PCE) HQ
"Mr. President, have you seen this invitation from Futuris regarding a European Alliance? They can't be serious?" said the vice president Valentin Gonzalez, Chairman of the Partido Comunista de España (PCE).
"What the h*ll! Are they totally nuts up there in the Arctic?!? Let's cut all ties with them, they must be punished! I bet they're having penguins in their government!" said President Frutos with anger in his voice.
"But, they're correct that we're not a true democracy. We're not having any true opposition to PCE. And besides, there's no penguins in the Arctic, they're only living in Antarctica."
"Bah, we're having regular elections here every third year, and that's a true sign of a democracy. And screw the penguins then."
"Yes, that's true. But all other parties are banned..."
"STOP IT! CCPS is a democracy! We're thinking of the best of our people all the time! Now, write this down for me..." said the President, and the discussion ended.
Fifteen minutes later this message was sent to Futuris:
To The Scandinavian State of Futuris
We are feeling hurt here in Spain due to your accusing of communism as a form of anti democracy. First you invite all democratic nations, and then you say they cannot be communist, or even socialist. You know, money is not the ground to democracy – equal rights is the correct way to a true democracy, and that's what we're practicing here on the Iberian Peninsula.
But you've showed your right thoughts to us, and we're hereby canceling all trade contracts with the Scandinavian State of Futuris, and we're also placing a full trade embargo on your nation. We urge all other democratic nations around the world to do the same! This also means that we're not going to buy the optional Gotland- and Visby class vessels. And we're not going to buy another single barrel of crude oil from your capitalist undemocratic nation.
Signed,
Francisco Frutos, General Secretary of Partido Comunista de España (PCE)
President of the Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain
Kopparbergs
13-03-2007, 23:23
To: The Saharan Confederate Expanse
Dear neighbor,
We're in need of crude oil, and as you're having one of the largest reserves in Africa we would like to make business with you. We used to buy oil from the North Sea, but the capitalist bastards told us that we're undemocratic, so we cancelled the deal immediately. We don't want to make business with such people.
Here's our suggestion of a deal: We will buy 1.5 million bbl/day at a price of $45/bbl. The contract should stretch over a period of three years before the price and amount will be renegotiated.
Do we have a deal?
Signed,
Francisco Frutos, General Secretary of Partido Comunista de España (PCE)
President of the Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain[/I]
Location: Madrid, the capital of CCPS. Partido Comunista de España (PCE) HQ
"Mr. President, have you seen this invitation from Futuris regarding a European Alliance? They can't be serious?" said the vice president Valentin Gonzalez, Chairman of the Partido Comunista de España (PCE).
"What the h*ll! Are they totally nuts up there in the Arctic?!? Let's cut all ties with them, they must be punished! I bet they're having penguins in their government!" said President Frutos with anger in his voice.
"But, they're correct that we're not a true democracy. We're not having any true opposition to PCE. And besides, there's no penguins in the Arctic, they're only living in Antarctica."
"Bah, we're having regular elections here every third year, and that's a true sign of a democracy. And screw the penguins then."
"Yes, that's true. But all other parties are banned..."
"STOP IT! CCPS is a democracy! We're thinking of the best of our people all the time! Now, write this down for me..." said the President, and the discussion ended.
Fifteen minutes later this message was sent to Futuris:
To The Scandinavian State of Futuris
We are feeling hurt here in Spain due to your accusing of communism as a form of anti democracy. First you invite all democratic nations, and then you say they cannot be communist, or even socialist. You know, money is not the ground to democracy – equal rights is the correct way to a true democracy, and that's what we're practicing here on the Iberian Peninsula.
But you've showed your right thoughts to us, and we're hereby canceling all trade contracts with the Scandinavian State of Futuris, and we're also placing a full trade embargo on your nation. We urge all other democratic nations around the world to do the same! This also means that we're not going to buy the optional Gotland- and Visby class vessels. And we're not going to buy another single barrel of crude oil from your capitalist undemocratic nation.
Signed,
Francisco Frutos, General Secretary of Partido Comunista de España (PCE)
President of the Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain
OOC: Okay......that was pointless? If you could quote me every calling you "un-democratic" or calling communism an "anti-democracy" maybe we'd get somewhere, but otherwise....
Also, I said that it's debatable, so if you think that you should get a chance to get into it, we can debate on it and decide with everyone else what's right.....
@WP: Yeah, I was just trying to introduce the concept in this thread, I'll start a new thread on it soon enough, especially if more countries get interested (i.e. Granate, Balkan Union, Pyschotika, etc.)
Amazonian Beasts
14-03-2007, 01:45
To: The Saharan Confederate Expanse
Dear neighbor,
We're in need of crude oil, and as you're having one of the largest reserves in Africa we would like to make business with you. We used to buy oil from the North Sea, but the capitalist bastards told us that we're undemocratic, so we cancelled the deal immediately. We don't want to make business with such people.
Here's our suggestion of a deal: We will buy 1.5 million bbl/day at a price of $45/bbl. The contract should stretch over a period of three years before the price and amount will be renegotiated.
Do we have a deal?
Signed,
Francisco Frutos, General Secretary of Partido Comunista de España (PCE)
President of the Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain[/I]
Addressed to Francisco Frutos, CCPS
While the Expanse finds this deal adequate, considering the seemingly tense feelings in the Mediterranean as of recent and the high recovery of oil in the Expanse, the SCE would like to propose a stronger deal:
In exchange for a $47.50/bbl price refinement, the SCE offers the CCPS an increase on barrels per day to a total of 1.75 million bbl/day and the Expanse delivery of all proceeds directly to the Iberian Peninsula ports at any port(s) of the CCPS's choosing, charge covered by the Expanse naval authorities.
We look forward to hearing the CCPS response and look forward to a fruitful economic future.
Best Regards,
SCE Economics Department
Daehanjeiguk
14-03-2007, 03:31
"What the h*ll! Are they totally nuts up there in the Arctic?!? Let's cut all ties with them, they must be punished! I bet they're having penguins in their government!" said President Frutos with anger in his voice.
http://www.lilyonthedustbin.com/archives/penguin.jpg
Presenting Nils Olaf, Colonel in Chief Royal Norwegian Army
Animarnia
14-03-2007, 12:30
Today the AR-12 21C Assault rifle started its first year of combat testing. 2000 rifles will be produced. Animarnia will be testing the rifles under Lab conditons and field conditions. We Humbly ask the Scandinavian states of Futaris if we may test in your artic regions.
We wish to test the fifle in Artic Tundra, Desert, Temperate, and Tropical Jungle. each rifle will spend 3 months in each type of weather and undergo the most rigerious testing.
AR-12-21C - 21st Century Combat Rifle
http://www.animeonscifi.co.uk/hosted/animarnia/SYAE/AR-12-21C.jpg
Specification Overview:
Calibre: .50 Beowulf /7.62mm
Operation: Gas Operated Piston with Rotating Bolt and Counter Bolt
Overall Length: 113cm
Barrel Length: 64cm (25 inches)
Bayonet Length: 33cm (Optional)
Weight (Empty): 4.4kg (6.7kg Loaded with Grenade Launcher)
Magazine Capacity: 45 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: 650 m/s (Beowulf) 880m/s (7.62mm)
Rate of Fire: 750 rounds per minute
Firing Modes: Safe, Single Shot, two round burst, and Full auto
Maximum Effective Range: 650 meters (800 with sight)
Production Cost: $3,200 Per Rifle
Export Cost: $3,600
History
The AR-12 21C started out as the ALW-XM02 rifle; this was a complete failure as the round was too large; and kicked too much recoil except for the largest and strongest soldiers. Further development came in the form of the ANLW-XM03 rifle this featured a more dynamic and modularised design but still failed because of reliability issues. The Animarnian Government then purchased SA-L85A2 Rifles from the British and development of a indigenous rifle was abandoned for 2 years. But Animarnia Land Warrior Inc kept tinkering with the design even though there was no official government contract for any new combat rifle. While Developing the ALW- GLX8 Revolving Master Key which was based off the abandoned "Jack hammer" program with a larger 20mm solid steel magnum bore. Several new technologies were developed that were needed to reduce the extreme recoil from this weapon so that a soldier could fire it without having there arms ripped off and acquire the penetration to punch through 3 inches of solid steel. Through the development of its sister program the new AR-11 was born despite being a decent rifle in of itself. And providing a basic chassis for many variants it never really distinguished itself from the British SA-L85A2. Never leaving that rifles shadow so wasn’t picked up for a military contract but did acquire several Law Enforcement and Civilian Hunter contracts and is one of the most widely used rifles in the civilian market.
Still sales from this funded the development of the AR-12; said to so far be the pinnacle in Animarnia small arms though not well known for its small arms it is hoped that the AR-12 will serve the Animarnia armed forces and acquire international recognition
Overview
The AR-12-21C 21st Century Combat Rifle aims to be one of the most advanced rifles on earth. Boasting the reliability and rugged durability of the Russian Kalishnakov with the accuracy, speed, and ability of the British SA-L85A2. Along with something just a little bit Animarnian. The result was the AR-12.
The AR-12 is a completely modular weapon; meaning it can be altered quickly and in a short space of time. Including the barrel. The moving parts of the gun are made from the finest steel making it a little more on the expensive side that some modern rifles but this has produced exceptional reliability in testing the rifle fired 15,000 rounds without a single jam. The frame of the rifle is constructed from Carbon plastic making it exceptionally durable while the weapon is still relatively light and maintaining low recoil and overall strength. This gives the weapon manoeuvrability even in cramped urban combat. The pistol grip is also designed to be ergonomic so it feels natural in the shooters hands further improving accuracy
The actually barrel is equipped with a muzzle break to reduce recoil and is threaded to allow the addition of silencers, flash suppressers and many other accessories including room for a Bayonet. The stock of the weapon is telescopic and can be extended inside the stock are two springs that help reduce recoil and improving accuracy. The weapon has one underside rail that can equip a 40mm Grenade launcher, shotgun or Metal storm launcher.
Two integrated side-rails allow the shooter to mount a flashlight and laser sight onto the rifle at the same time or other equipment; a top rail also allows the shooter to mount a powerful telescopic sight.
Loading is done at the back underside of the rifle; a magazine is loaded into the rear of the rifle and pushed and locked into place. The charging handled located on the right side of the rifle is then manually pulled back; by doing this a round is extracted from the magazine and loaded into the breach. The shooter then releases the charging handle and the rifle is ready to fire. When the last round has been fired, the bolt stays back. When reloading the weapon, the shooter would insert the magazine and tap the bolt release, causing it to slap forward and chamber the first round automatically as if the shooter had pulled the charging handle. This allows for much quicker reload times, making for a more effective overall weapon. The spent casing is ejected on the right hand side from the top of the rife. The actual magazine is constructed from black Balkalite; readily and cheaply available and durable. The Magazine can carry 30 Beowulf rounds or 45 7.62mm rounds. Though the weapon does have the option of being able to attach a specially developed 150 round steel drum magazine.
The selector switch is located on the left side of the weapon above the pistol grip. This allows for extreme ease of access, allowing the shooter to switch rate of fire with the flick of the thumb, without taking his hand off of the pistol grip. The switch has four settings: 'SAFE', 'SEMI', 'BURST, and 'AUTO'. The weapon's burst function is a two-round burst, allowing for greater accuracy
The actual trigger is designed for an ultra smooth pull increasing accuracy by allowing the shooter to squeeze of rounds with ease. Behind the trigger is an ammunition counter that displays the total number of rounds currently available in the magazine.
Recoil is handled using a Long stroke gas operated piston with a Rotating bolt; much like the SA-80, M-1 and AK-47 rifles however the AR-1221C also comes with a counter bolt to reduce recoil; the rifles also uses rails along with its recoil spring guide rod and long stroke piston. This helps keep the carrier in line while still leaving ample room for the casing to be expelled. The butt of the rifle also comes with a rubber plate so that the shooter won't feel the recoil as much.
Because the weapon is Modular like the FN-2000 field stripping is very easy; one needs only to remove the dust cover, withdraw the recoil spring, and pull out the bolt and piston to field strip the AR-1221C.
The Sight of the weapon is a combination of Iron sights and SUSAT II; a recent development in lenses allow the new SUSAT type sight to use Tritium based night Vision and thermal infrared for targeting and comes with a 200x digital and 15x optical zoom feature. The Sight further extends the range to 800 meters with accuracy. For missions where equipping a full sighting system is advised the weapon also comes with an integrated Blue Dot sight like that seen on the FN P-90 PDW
Future Development
Research is as always ongoing but the AR-12 will definitely see service it is hoped for the next 10 years and will hopefully replace most mainline rifles inside Animarnia if it proves to be as it should be. Future development might include Frechette ammunition or aluminium or silk steel alloy ammunition as the weapon including the barrel is moduleized it is possible to replace and machine new parts as needed.
Ammunition
The .50 Beowulf measures 12.5 x 42 RB and has an 11.2-mm diameter rim with a 13.5-mm body. Two types of bullets can be chambered the .325 grain (21.1 g) hollow-point or the 400 grain (25.9 g) flat-nosed soft point. Muzzle velocities achieved with these bullets are respectively 2,050 fps (650 m/s) and 1,900 fps (603 m/s). The magazine is has been modified to carry greater capacity than the 5.56mm NATO M16 magazine, the Beowulf magazine has been modified by carefully bending the feed lips to reliably feed the larger cartridge. The Beowulf can regularly penetrate Level III body armour with reliability with the .400 grain penetrating Level IV body armour in some instances
The 7,62mm measures 7.62mm x 54RB with a Rim of 11.30 mm with a weight of 9,6-11,8 grams gives the round a muzzles velocity of 780-870 meters per second. This cartridge is the most common in the world being used on the AK-47 for many years; it was decided to use the 7.62mm over the 5.25mm NATO because of the desires to have increased penetration.
Kopparbergs
14-03-2007, 12:53
http://www.lilyonthedustbin.com/archives/penguin.jpg
Presenting Nils Olaf, Colonel in Chief Royal Norwegian Army
"See, I was right!" said Frutos when he looked at the postcard...
Kopparbergs
14-03-2007, 12:58
Addressed to Francisco Frutos, CCPS
While the Expanse finds this deal adequate, considering the seemingly tense feelings in the Mediterranean as of recent and the high recovery of oil in the Expanse, the SCE would like to propose a stronger deal:
In exchange for a $47.50/bbl price refinement, the SCE offers the CCPS an increase on barrels per day to a total of 1.75 million bbl/day and the Expanse delivery of all proceeds directly to the Iberian Peninsula ports at any port(s) of the CCPS's choosing, charge covered by the Expanse naval authorities.
We look forward to hearing the CCPS response and look forward to a fruitful economic future.
Best Regards,
SCE Economics Department
Well, this deal is even better! We'll sign this immediately! We will provide you with a list of ports at a later time, but we need the oil delivered to at least three different ports, maybe four.
It's a pleasure doing business with you!
Signed,
Francisco Frutos, General Secretary of Partido Comunista de España (PCE)
President of the Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain[/I]
Daehanjeiguk
14-03-2007, 21:12
ooc- this is a new thread - for EEU and me
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520743
Today the AR-12 21C Assault rifle started its first year of combat testing. 2000 rifles will be produced. Animarnia will be testing the rifles under Lab conditons and field conditions. We Humbly ask the Scandinavian states of Futaris if we may test in your artic regions.
We wish to test the fifle in Artic Tundra, Desert, Temperate, and Tropical Jungle. each rifle will spend 3 months in each type of weather and undergo the most rigerious testing.
Carl Jacobsson, Minister of Foreign Affairs
To the Federation of Animarnia,
We would be willing to host testing of the AR-12 assault rifle in the arctic tundra's of northern Norway. The Scandinavian Mountains are perfect to test ruggedry in extremely cold conditions, and Trollheimen, an arctic tundra that is mostly flat, is located inside the mountains.
We will display necessary security measures so that the public can feel safe in the area, and keep a general watch over you, but other than that, we will not interfere. We require no cost or fee for you testing - however, maybe when in the future we want to buy the AR-12, there can be some kind of decreased price for us? We're not saying that the decreased price in the future is final or anything, just a proposal.
The Scandinavian State of Futuris
Today, The Scandinavian State of Futuris declared a 15-year plan to create a very green Scandinavia. It was proposed by the Leader, Bjorn Gustavsson, and voted and accepted by the Scandinavian Legislature several days ago. The plan includes, among other things, totally eliminating the need for oil, by designing and building alternative energy transportation, as well as huge alternative energy power plants across the nation. The production of oil in the Northern Seas will continue for export, but the nation will be virtually independent of oil. Usage of coal and natural gas will also decrease sharply, and if everything goes well, they will too, be obsolete in the nation as an energy source.
The R&D team will make announcements to the public about certain advances made, but the technology will not be immediately available to other countries.
Other things in the plan include phasing in mass recycling habits into the public, and putting high fees and taxes on polluting factories and junkyards. Heavy fines will be put on anyone who pollutes, be it even littering in the park.
One of the biggest things that the plan will do, is an extreme conservation of the territorial waters that are house the major fishing industry of Scandinavia. All pollution will be monitored and eliminated, periodical checks of the water will be undergone to ensure purity, a rigid fishing doctrine will be enabled to prevent over-fishing and habitat disasters, and any illegal fishers arrested. This will in general increase the quality of the fish, as well as create a greener and safer Scandinavia.
The plan will take 5% from the Defense budget each year, or around 21.4 billion which ensures its success and completion.
Animarnia
14-03-2007, 23:28
Carl Jacobsson, Minister of Foreign Affairs
To the Federation of Animarnia,
We would be willing to host testing of the AR-12 assault rifle in the arctic tundra's of northern Norway. The Scandinavian Mountains are perfect to test ruggedry in extremely cold conditions, and Trollheimen, an arctic tundra that is mostly flat, is located inside the mountains.
We will display necessary security measures so that the public can feel safe in the area, and keep a general watch over you, but other than that, we will not interfere. We require no cost or fee for you testing - however, maybe when in the future we want to buy the AR-12, there can be some kind of decreased price for us? We're not saying that the decreased price in the future is final or anything, just a proposal.
The Scandinavian State of Futuris
We thank you very much for this opertunity; and we invite you to full paticipate in the testing as we are wanting to put the rifle through the best posable stress test as the Americans say "put it through its paces" to see where the design holds up and where it falls down and the Rifle will be put up for export when testing and analysis of data is complete. we estimate 6 months worth of testing will be required; then a month to make any tweaks; then a further 4 months to test more tweaks. so teh rifle will not be on sale for at least a year however when that time comes Animarnia Landwarrior Inc is will to sell you the rifle at little more than production cost.
Daehanjeiguk
15-03-2007, 00:18
hmmm, I may be adding another tank to my lot of tanks :D
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/South_Korea_Unveils_Underwater_Tank_999.html
the news is over a week old, but I think that I'll get on to adding its specs to whatever this year is and progressively add its production for use. Following the designations of past MBT tanks, the XK2 will become my new JJC-07.
IC
The Agency for Imperial Contracts has announced the completion of the XJJC Program, to yield a new tank to add to the growing technological capabilities of the Han Empire. This new tank - the JJC-07 - was shown in a domestic exposition, with the Emperor in attendance. Code-named "Black Panther", the JJC-07 adds to the ground capabilities of the Han Empire in its ability to strike with force where needed under more diverse terrain configurations. A tentative list of specs for review:
* 중전차07 (中戰車07) (http://kin.naver.com/db/detail.php?d1id=6&dir_id=607&eid=vxPwkHb7O5ZJhzGgRmE6NMhBShoKhhBz&qb=yObHpQ==) [JJC-07]
Type Main Battle Tank
Place of origin Han Empire
Manufacturer Hyeondae [현대 (現代)]
Weight 55000 kg
Crew 3
Length 10.00 m (including main armament)
Width 3.10 m
Height 2.20 m
Max Velocity 70 kmph
Range 450 km
Armor Composite [Secret]
Armaments
- Principal 120mm tank gun [32 rounds]
- Secondary GJGGJ-93 HMG
- Secondary GGGJ-91 MG coaxial
COST $
Full-production is expected to run for the next four years, with the Han Empire taking an unspecified number of JJC-07 pre-orders. The AIC is also looking for prospective buyers, to help diversify the clientèle it currently serves.
Amazonian Beasts
15-03-2007, 00:54
Today the AR-12 21C Assault rifle started its first year of combat testing. 2000 rifles will be produced. Animarnia will be testing the rifles under Lab conditons and field conditions. We Humbly ask the Scandinavian states of Futaris if we may test in your artic regions.
We wish to test the fifle in Artic Tundra, Desert, Temperate, and Tropical Jungle. each rifle will spend 3 months in each type of weather and undergo the most rigerious testing.
We volunteer the expansive Saharan Desert as a testing site for the AR-12, charge paid for by the Confederate Government-the SCE would like to observe the weapon's capabilities in the dry climate, and would be honored to host such trials of the promising weapon.
Amazonian Beasts
15-03-2007, 00:57
Well, this deal is even better! We'll sign this immediately! We will provide you with a list of ports at a later time, but we need the oil delivered to at least three different ports, maybe four.
It's a pleasure doing business with you!
Signed,
Francisco Frutos, General Secretary of Partido Comunista de España (PCE)
President of the Commonwealth of Communist Portugal-Spain[/I]
We are honored to conduct such a fruitful deal for both of our governments!
As soon as the sites for delivery are sent, the Expanse can begin shipping of oil within a week.
Best Regards,
SCE Economics Affairs
Animarnia
15-03-2007, 01:09
We volunteer the expansive Saharan Desert as a testing site for the AR-12, charge paid for by the Confederate Government-the SCE would like to observe the weapon's capabilities in the dry climate, and would be honored to host such trials of the promising weapon.
We Accept your generious offer and grant you full observation privliedges; we invite the SCE to as the americans say put the rifle through its paces to see where it stands up and what needs to be changed.
We hope to have a weapon up for sale by the end of 2009 (Animarnian Calender currently just entering 2009)
Amazonian Beasts
15-03-2007, 01:11
We Accept your generious offer and grant you full observation privliedges; we invite the SCE to as the americans say put the rifle through its paces to see where it stands up and what needs to be changed.
We hope to have a weapon up for sale by the end of 2009 (Animarnian Calender currently just entering 2009)
The Expanse government thanks the Animarnian government for the acceptance. We shall do all we can to make the testing sites as prepared as possible for ideal testing situations in the Saharan climate.
When the production version becomes ready for export, we guarentee that the Defense Department will surely take a long look at the weapon.
Daehanjeiguk
15-03-2007, 18:09
SIC:
Special Orders have been given to the following units:
*** 2nd INF Division [Oromokjei]
*** 1st CAV Division [Hohuahoteuk]
Mobilization is expected to occur within the next 72 hours for both units. After mobilization, both units are expected prepare for transient operations to a new location. The accompanying Air Force Commands in Monggol and Shingang Provinces are expected to mobilize along with the Army units in preparation for this exercise.
Newer Kiwiland
16-03-2007, 02:50
Kiwiland has announced her budget for the new fiscal year. Of note is the 3 classified research projects listed under the military budget, code named Kenmu after the current Era name. Projects 1 & 2 have been given a combined total of $7 billion to achieve their goals, but Project 3 received $12 billion just for its first year.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12430465&postcount=7
Newer Kiwiland
16-03-2007, 02:53
OOC: Sorry, Animarnia, but would you mind reducing the dimensions of your pics a bit? ATM its distorting my browser apart >_>
Animarnia
16-03-2007, 03:48
OOC: Sorry, Animarnia, but would you mind reducing the dimensions of your pics a bit? ATM its distorting my browser apart >_>
OOC:
Sorry; I blaim MS Paint; I'll resize it now gimme a few minutes or so
Edit: Hows that?
Newer Kiwiland
16-03-2007, 12:27
OOC: Great, thanks! :cool:
Daehanjeiguk
16-03-2007, 19:31
SIC:
Special Orders have been given to the following units:
*** 2nd INF Division [Oromokjei]
*** 1st CAV Division [Hohuahoteuk]
Mobilization is expected to occur within the next 72 hours for both units. After mobilization, both units are expected prepare for transient operations to a new location. The accompanying Air Force Commands in Monggol and Shingang Provinces are expected to mobilize along with the Army units in preparation for this exercise.
SIC:
72 hours have passed, and the units are now mobilized. They are standing ready for future action.
SIC. Naval Building program 2007-2015
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The Department of Defense announced a new Naval Building Program today. The Royal Navy will continue with several projects which are currently under progress. The Royal Navy will be centered around two Carrier Battle Groups and one Amphibious Assault Battle Group.
The Carrier Battle Group will be build around the Future Carrier, dubbed Project 001. Each Battle Group will further have up to 5 Type 45 Destroyers, 5 of the new MSVD (Medium Sized Vessel Derivative) dubbed project 002 and 5 Sundown Anti mining Warfare Ships. For further protection 5 Astute Class SSN will be included.
The Amphibious Battle Group will ensure that the United Kingdom will continue to be able to project its power abroad if necessary. The centre of the Battle group will be two Ocean Class LPH Ships (one to enter service in one year). These vessels will be supported by a flotilla of 5 Type 45 Destroyers and 5 MSVD. 5 Sundown Anti Mining Ships and 4 Hunt Class Anti mining Ships will complete the surface part of the Battle Group. Submarine Guidance will be given by 4 Astute Class SSN.
The Submarine Force will be expanded as well. One additional Vanguard Class SSBN will be build. A Nuclear Deterrent Submarine protection Force of 5 Astute Class Submarines will be constructed. An Independent Submarine Force of 8 Astute Class SSN will complete the Royal navy of the 21st. Century. The First Sea Lord estimates that the project will take 5 to 7 years.
Total Costs:
Project 001-4 billion for two ships
Project 002-1.8 billion
Astute Class-22 billion of 22 Submarines
Type 45 Destroyers-2.2 Billion for 15 Vessels
Additional Costs for Existing Ships-3 Billion
Upgrading Naval Yards and Shelters-5 Billion
Total Cost: 38 Billion pound Sterling for the Total Naval Building Program
SIC:
Th Chancellor has called for the Mobilization of a number of German military Elements. These elements include, but are not limited to:
34th Panzer Division
163rd Bundeswher Infrantry Division
175th Bundeswher Infrantry Division
98th Bundeswher Light-Infrantry Regiment
208th Luftwaffe Air-wing.
The total number of Troops being mobilized is around 34,000. 75 Leopard 2A7s have also been mobilized. 12 Panavia Tornados and 6 Eurofighter Typhoons have also been mobilized.
What these units are being Mobilized for is not known as of this time. But it is known that all of these units are being redeployed in north-western region of Germany.
SIC:
Th Chancellor has called for the Mobilization of a number of German military Elements. These elements include, but are not limited to:
34th Panzer Division
163rd Bundeswher Infrantry Division
175th Bundeswher Infrantry Division
98th Bundeswher Light-Infrantry Regiment
208th Luftwaffe Air-wing.
The total number of Troops being mobilized is around 34,000. 75 Leopard 2A7s have also been mobilized. 12 Panavia Tornados and 6 Eurofighter Typhoons have also been mobilized.
What these units are being Mobilized for is not known as of this time. But it is known that all of these units are being redeployed in north-western region of Germany.
24 Since the last Mobilzation orders went out, the Chancellor decreed that more units would be mobilized as well. The truth behind this operation has not been told to anyone outside of the Government and no official is talking. All of the Mobilized units will be redeployed into Northwestern Germany, just like the last orders.
The Mobilized Units are:
35th Panzer Division
187th Bundeswehr Infrantry Division
189th Bundeswehr Infrantry Division
99th Bundeswehr Light Infrantry Regiment
SIC:
With all the mobilization orders completed and almost all of the troops in North-western Europe, the Chancellor began to orchestrate the final preparations for the Operation. Using some official and un-official channels, The Chancellor managed to make an Executive Order. Executive Order 4.15.6, which stated that it was within the Chancellor's Power to deploy special forces where ever he/she wished, although it was still limited by Reichstag. The Chancellor made quick use of his new found power.
His first use of the power was to call the 33rd Fallschirmjäger and 35th Fallschirmjäger Battalions into action. Their name was a testimate to the Fallschirmjäger Soldiers who fought for the Third Reich in last century. Although they weren't paratroopers, many of them had para-training. They were to be used as advanced troops for the Operation in which the Chancellor had been preparing for days.
Newer Kiwiland
18-03-2007, 14:33
(OCC: Please take a look, and tell me if this is feasible, thanks :))
SIC:
Classified Report on Progress of Yamato Kai Battleships, Project Kenmu 1
Research Project Kenmu 1 is finally near fruition, after years of work ever since Kiwiland began to rearm. Until now, the project, charged with modernising the Yamato Class Super Battleships, have been mostly confined to theoretical work, since valuable resources were tied down in urgent production needs. However, with the end of the arms buildup came a large influx of fresh funds, and together they did the trick.
Project Director Admiral Isamu Koga has prepared preliminary plans for the Yamato Kai Class Battleships. Although the same basic designs are used, the new version will feature modern armour, advanced electronic and fire control systems, and most importantly, Vertical Launch Systems in place of the 460mm guns, as shown in the design concept below.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/rmdsc/SYAE/Yamato%20Kai/BattleshipYamatoKaiv1.jpg
Right now, it is hoped to place up to 400 Mk41 VLS cells at front and another 200 cells at the rear. They would be installed in 12 modules of 50 cells each, at where the 460mm guns were originally placed. These are shown as lighter coloured strips. The Yamato's anti-aircraft guns, though numerous, are completely outdated. Decision has been made to replace all of them with 8 units of the Phalanx Close-In Weapon System, shown as bumps on the illustration. No other weaponry will be installed.
The envisioned role for the Yamato Kai, as outlined in the directives given by the Imperial Military Technology Office, is a mobile launch platform. It is planned to have the ability to launch up to 600 cruise missiles near simultaneously, thus eliminating the need to invest in stike aircrafts and carriers by the Maritime Force.
However, due to this the Yamato Kai will be extremely vulnerable to attacks. Although it is possible to fire Standard Missiles from the VLS cells, due to its size the Yamato Kai cannot hope to survive a concentrated on its own, especially if submarines are involved. A separate Command and Control Ship may be necessary to direct the missiles effectively.
Newer Kiwiland
18-03-2007, 17:04
SIC:
Kiwiland's Active Camouflauge Programme, dubbed Kenmu 3, has finally kicked off. The corner stones of this project are Sony and other companies' Organic Light Emitting Diodes technology, and the Uiniversitry of Tokyo's past efforts.
The project is authorised to spend up to $12 billion this year in pursuing this goal.
SIC.
BIKINI Status has been raised to Special Black due to several unsetteling intelligence reports from Germany. The Carrier Battle Group will be put out to sea within 24 hours. Air and Naval Patrols will be increased. Nimrods and E3 Sentries will patrol over the North Sea, the English Channel and the Atlantic protected by one flight per Nimrod/Sentry.
The Nuclear Deterrent Forces will remain in port.
ooc. The Yamato Kai looks good. One question though: 600 cells? That's a lot of missiles. But it could be done, you scrapped almost every other weapon on the ship.
Candistan
18-03-2007, 18:10
The Russian Atlantic Fleet has been ordered to set sail for the seas outide f Germany to moniter the situation there.
Animarnia
18-03-2007, 18:22
(OCC: Please take a look, and tell me if this is feasible, thanks :))
SIC:
Classified Report on Progress of Yamato Kai Battleships, Project Kenmu 1
Research Project Kenmu 1 is finally near fruition, after years of work ever since Kiwiland began to rearm. Until now, the project, charged with modernising the Yamato Class Super Battleships, have been mostly confined to theoretical work, since valuable resources were tied down in urgent production needs. However, with the end of the arms buildup came a large influx of fresh funds, and together they did the trick.
Project Director Admiral Isamu Koga has prepared preliminary plans for the Yamato Kai Class Battleships. Although the same basic designs are used, the new version will feature modern armour, advanced electronic and fire control systems, and most importantly, Vertical Launch Systems in place of the 460mm guns, as shown in the design concept below.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/rmdsc/SYAE/Yamato%20Kai/BattleshipYamatoKaiv1.jpg
Right now, it is hoped to place up to 400 Mk41 VLS cells at front and another 200 cells at the rear. They would be installed in 12 modules of 50 cells each, at where the 460mm guns were originally placed. These are shown as lighter coloured strips. The Yamato's anti-aircraft guns, though numerous, are completely outdated. Decision has been made to replace all of them with 8 units of the Phalanx Close-In Weapon System, shown as bumps on the illustration. No other weaponry will be installed.
The envisioned role for the Yamato Kai, as outlined in the directives given by the Imperial Military Technology Office, is a mobile launch platform. It is planned to have the ability to launch up to 600 cruise missiles near simultaneously, thus eliminating the need to invest in stike aircrafts and carriers by the Maritime Force.
However, due to this the Yamato Kai will be extremely vulnerable to attacks. Although it is possible to fire Standard Missiles from the VLS cells, due to its size the Yamato Kai cannot hope to survive a concentrated on its own, especially if submarines are involved. A separate Command and Control Ship may be necessary to direct the missiles effectively.
OOC:
I'd go with two 10x10 VLS Tubes (so 200 Cells) and maybe Three Tripple 8 Inch Turrets (two Fore, One Rear) and Posable four, Quad Cell Anti-shipping Missile Launchers and four Torp tubes; then add some CIWS/ADC's. the thing IS a battelship not a Guided missile cruiser :)
The German Confederation is proud to announce that they first working Prototype of the Leopard III Main Battle Tank has been finished. It will be used in Field Tests in a secret location to assess the pros and cons of it before it is sent back to the Developers for further work. Although the Tank won't see production for atleast 4 more years, and even then only Limited Production, it is still being highly received by the Bundeswehr for it's power and speed.
OOC: Here are the specs for said Prototype.
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/647/leopard3oq4.jpg
Length: 8 m (11.6 with Main Gun)
Width: 3.7 m
Height: 3 m
Weight: 69 tonnes
Crew: 3 (Commander, Gunner, and Driver)
Main Armament: 1 x Coaxial 135 mm Rheinmetall Smoothbore Cannon
Secondary Armament: 2 x 7.62 mm MG3s. 2 5 Barrelled Grenade Launchers.
Ammo Capicity: 45 Cannon Rounds. (25 APFSDS-T, 15 HEAT-FS, 5 HE-FRAG-FS), 4,500 7.62 Rounds, Numerous Variations of Grenades added before combat.
Engine: 12 Cylinder 2,000 HP Diesel Engine.
Fuel Capicity: 1900 Litres
Fuel Consumption (Road): .25 km per Litre
Fuel Consumption (Cross-Country): .105 km per Litre
Range (Road): 475 km
Range (Cross Country): 200 km
Power to Weight Ratio: 28.99 hp/tonne
Top Speed (Road): 73 km/h
Top Speed (Cross-Country): 53 km/h
Armour: 4th Generation Composite; including including high-hardness steel, tungsten and plastic filler with ceramic component.
Fording Depth: 1.25 m
Deep Water Depth: 2.35 m
Underwater Depth (With Snorkel): 3.85 m
Other Equipment: PERI-R 17 A4 Panoramic Periscope, EMES 17 Rheinmetall Magnification Sight, CMTA2 Infared Sight, CE635 Laser Range-Finder, and GPS Systems.
Daehanjeiguk
18-03-2007, 21:06
The Agency for Imperial Contracts of the Great Han Empire is looking to start an international project aimed at harnessing the power of the atom - in the reverse fashion of the fission process developed half a century ago. The Agency would be willing to cooperate with a team of international scientists, with the sole aim in producing fusion energy available to the world. If interested, please contact our Agency officials.
In addition, the Agency is looking to diversify its current projects and clientèle - if your country needs assistance or desires products, the Agency can help you find what you seek. We have massive resources available to produce, research, or develop equipment of a diverse array of functions. We also boast entrance to the massive Han market - if you need to sell something, try selling it here!
The Agency for Imperial Contracts of the Great Han Empire is looking to start an international project aimed at harnessing the power of the atom - in the reverse fashion of the fission process developed half a century ago. The Agency would be willing to cooperate with a team of international scientists, with the sole aim in producing fusion energy available to the world. If interested, please contact our Agency officials.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland is interested in joining an international research team. We are currently researching fusion on a small scale, but we agree that only a larger group of scientists with more resources and funds can develop Fusion Power.
Prime Minister David Cameron
Animarnia
18-03-2007, 21:24
The Agency for Imperial Contracts of the Great Han Empire is looking to start an international project aimed at harnessing the power of the atom - in the reverse fashion of the fission process developed half a century ago. The Agency would be willing to cooperate with a team of international scientists, with the sole aim in producing fusion energy available to the world. If interested, please contact our Agency officials.
In addition, the Agency is looking to diversify its current projects and clientèle - if your country needs assistance or desires products, the Agency can help you find what you seek. We have massive resources available to produce, research, or develop equipment of a diverse array of functions. We also boast entrance to the massive Han market - if you need to sell something, try selling it here!
We To have been researching fusion on an extreamly limited scale and have been in talks with the british about co-operating on a joint development project. we would gladly work with the Han Empire and as one of the few nations on earth with large uninhabited areas avalable for construction of such experimental systems we bring a unique positon to the deal so we humbly submit ourselves to the fusion project.
Daehanjeiguk
18-03-2007, 21:26
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland is interested in joining an international research team. We are currently researching fusion on a small scale, but we agree that only a larger group of scientists with more resources and funds can develop Fusion Power.
Prime Minister David Cameron
Perfect time to establish relations!!!
大英洲王國 {대영주왕국}
Having heard acquiescence to the fusion project, it is the firm and resolute desire of the Han Empire to establish formal relations, to permit our two research teams to cooperate. Furthermore, with the formal establishment, we can fervidly race to cooperate in other matter of political, economic, and social cultivation. If accepted, we submit to you Prince Yi Eonjeok [李彦迪君 (이언적군)].
Marquis Pak Yu [박유참반 (朴瑈侯)]
IMPERIAL MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
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Perfect time to establish relations!!!
大英洲王國 {대영주왕국}
Having heard acquiescence to the fusion project, it is the firm and resolute desire of the Han Empire to establish formal relations, to permit our two research teams to cooperate. Furthermore, with the formal establishment, we can fervidly race to cooperate in other matter of political, economic, and social cultivation. If accepted, we submit to you Prince Yi Eonjeok [李彦迪君 (이언적군)].
Marquis Pak Yu [박유참반 (朴瑈侯)]
IMPERIAL MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
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We are glad to open diplomatic relations with such a great nation as the Han Empire. Together with the initial team of scientists we will send an Ambassador and his staff to you Capitol. We will welcome your ambassador in London.
Prime Minister David Cameron
The Agency for Imperial Contracts of the Great Han Empire is looking to start an international project aimed at harnessing the power of the atom - in the reverse fashion of the fission process developed half a century ago. The Agency would be willing to cooperate with a team of international scientists, with the sole aim in producing fusion energy available to the world. If interested, please contact our Agency officials.
In addition, the Agency is looking to diversify its current projects and clientèle - if your country needs assistance or desires products, the Agency can help you find what you seek. We have massive resources available to produce, research, or develop equipment of a diverse array of functions. We also boast entrance to the massive Han market - if you need to sell something, try selling it here!
The German Confederation would be willing to work on International Fission Project. Our dependecy on Fossil Fuels has gone on long enough and we wish to find an alternative means to power our nation.
Candistan
18-03-2007, 21:55
The RSFSR would be happy to join the Fission Project. We have plenty of material to spare.
Jaredcohenia
19-03-2007, 00:00
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe would like to send some of her most brilliant physicists to study fission with the rest of the nations. We are also interested in any fusion efforts.
Dragisa Crvenkovski, Prime Minister
The Balkan Union
Newer Kiwiland
19-03-2007, 00:32
(OOC: from the general thread:
Well, about the Chechnyans. The Last Chechen War has been declared over as pretty much all of the Chechens in Russia are either dead or fled to other countries. Now Russia can focus on better things like rebuilding Moscow or watching other countries kill each other.)
The United Empire has announced that it will provide aid to Chechen refugees from the illegal regime of RSFSR. All persons of Chechen decent will be granted land, property, temoporary jobs from the State Ministry, and a special Refugees Resettlement Allowance to help them settle down in Siberia.
(OOC: is there a rough figure as to how much Chechens are still alive?)
Candistan
19-03-2007, 00:50
(OOC: from the general thread:
)
The United Empire has announced that it will provide aid to Chechen refugees from the illegal regime of RSFSR. All persons of Chechen decent will be granted land, property, temoporary jobs from the State Ministry, and a special Refugees Resettlement Allowance to help them settle down in Siberia.
(OOC: is there a rough figure as to how much Chechens are still alive?)
IC: The True Russian Government dismisses this false claim of the Romanov's and will strike against any Chechen presideing in RUSSIAN lands.
OOC: Just a little thing to emphasize the disputed territory thing. And about the Chechens, most of them fled to Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and Eastern Europe, but I would say maybe 100,000 are dead.
Amazonian Beasts
19-03-2007, 01:42
Regarding the Han fusion project, the Saharan Confederate Expanse would like to send nuclear scientists to join the research team. We feel the abundance of space within the Expase could possibly serve as an ideal spot for testing locales, particularly in the massive Saharan desert that abounds in the esatern locales of the Expanse.
Carl Jacobsson, Minister of Trade
To the Han Empire,
We would be interested in sending a few scientists to the experimental labs....although we are working on green technology like solar, wind, etc. power, fusion, if found to be able to be harnessed cleanly and efficiently, could further provide an energy source for our needs.
We are also offering space to construct facilities in Scandinavia, as there is much land to offer, and Norway being one of the least densily populated countries in the world.
The Scandinavian State of Futuris
Newer Kiwiland
19-03-2007, 14:38
Kiwiland is very interested in a collective project on Fusion. We would like to inquire as to whether specific plans for international collaboration on such an important project has been made. In particular, a project like with will cost billions of dollars with years if not decades of time, thus requiring careful organisation from the beginning.
SIC: In view of the recent international project on fusion power, the Kiwiland Ministries of State and Defence have agreed to halt progress on Project Kenmu 2 (Super Taihō Kai Class Carrier). $4 billion of the allocated budget will be transfered to Project Kenmu 4, which will receive formal fundings of its own in the next fiscal year. The remaining $500 million will be used on researching the integration of old designs into the modern Maritime Force, which will be used in conjunction with Project Kenmu 1 for the Yamato Kai as per originally expected
OOC:
OOC:
I'd go with two 10x10 VLS Tubes (so 200 Cells) and maybe Three Tripple 8 Inch Turrets (two Fore, One Rear) and Posable four, Quad Cell Anti-shipping Missile Launchers and four Torp tubes; then add some CIWS/ADC's. the thing IS a battelship not a Guided missile cruiser :)
Aww, but I want to create a cruise/standard missile equivalent of the English longbow during the battle of Crecy :D Actuallly, I just wanted to replace arrows with missiles in this quote I saw... and now I forgot what it is >"<.
ooc. The Yamato Kai looks good. One question though: 600 cells? That's a lot of missiles. But it could be done, you scrapped almost every other weapon on the ship.
Thanks. Yeah, it seems like quite a huge number (although I found the specs for a 61 cell system and tried confirming that by looking... hard... at the DDG-51's schemetics). Luckily no one's saying its impossible (so far), so I guess I didn't overdo it too much XD.
Newer Kiwiland
19-03-2007, 16:06
IC: The True Russian Government dismisses this false claim of the Romanov's and will strike against any Chechen presideing in RUSSIAN lands.
The sole legitimate government of all the Russias condemns the brutality of the bloodthirsty regime of RSFSR. Although out of faith in peaceful co-existence we have refrained from forcibly liberating our stranded subjects under your oppression, we will respond to all attacks with due force.
Meanwhile, we renew our pledge to help resettle all Chechens, and ask neighbouring countries, particularly the Empire of Cripteria, for support.
SIC:
Despite our countries' differences, the Romanov Monarchy represented by the United Empire cares deeply about each and everyone of its subjects. While we do not officially recogise each other, Kiwiland believes we may be able to work something out. We ask for your help in delivering Chechen refugees, fugitives, political prisoners or POWs who are unable or unwilling to stay in Chechnya/Russia to us, so that we may help them resettle and rid you of a clearly unwanted minority. Political activists will be barred from leaving our borders, so you need not worry about future instability.
In return, cash, supplies and machinery are offered, no matter how many Chechens you will be able to send to us. Our only priority is allevieting their suffering.
OOC: surely not all of the 1 million+ Chechens fled your borders?
Candistan
19-03-2007, 21:23
The sole legitimate government of all the Russias condemns the brutality of the bloodthirsty regime of RSFSR. Although out of faith in peaceful co-existence we have refrained from forcibly liberating our stranded subjects under your oppression, we will respond to all attacks with due force.
Meanwhile, we renew our pledge to help resettle all Chechens, and ask neighbouring countries, particularly the Empire of Cripteria, for support.
SIC:
Despite our countries' differences, the Romanov Monarchy represented by the United Empire cares deeply about each and everyone of its subjects. While we do not officially recogise each other, Kiwiland believes we may be able to work something out. We ask for your help in delivering Chechen refugees, fugitives, political prisoners or POWs who are unable or unwilling to stay in Chechnya/Russia to us, so that we may help them resettle and rid you of a clearly unwanted minority. Political activists will be barred from leaving our borders, so you need not worry about future instability.
In return, cash, supplies and machinery are offered, no matter how many Chechens you will be able to send to us. Our only priority is allevieting their suffering.
OOC: surely not all of the 1 million+ Chechens fled your borders?
SIC: We can arrange for the release of most POWs and interned Chechnyan's aside from those acccused of breaking Major Infringments.
OOC: No, most are in hiding, lots are dead, and even more fled.
Amazonian Beasts
20-03-2007, 02:25
OOC: I'll link this to a seperate thread when it gets underway.
IC:
Addressed to the honorable nations of Honako, Animaria, South Africa, and the UASR
The Saharan Confederate Expanse cordially invites your nations to a Pan-African summit on continental defense, economics, and sociopolitical affairs in the SCE's federal capital of Lagos, in Nigeria District. All accomodations will be handled with utmost attention by the Expanse, and all needs and requests shall be met while the summit proceeds. We would like to point out the peaceful nature of this summit; we in the Expanse would prefer nothing to get too out of hand-however, we do encourage debate and discussion amongst African affairs so a better continental sphere around our traditionally downtrodden region may be better attained.
We hope you take this opportunity to promote Africanism as a whole and assist in paving the road to a better Pan-African future.
Best Regards,
SCE Foreign Affairs
Candistan
20-03-2007, 03:17
SIC: 2nd Federal Naval Squadron, Twenty Miles off of Panama, Former Union of People's and Worker's States
The 2nd Federal Naval Squadron, led by the Kirov Class Battlecruiser Admiral Ushikov, sat in wait off the coast of Panama. It had been about six months since the collapse of the UPWS, and the RSFSR wanted to establish order and possibly get a little something in return. The UPWS was a socialist nation like the RSFSR and the Federal Gov't believed that this could be used to acquire the new lands. The squadron moved in towards the coast of Panama and sat in wait for either an order to move out or a larger reinforcment group.
2nd Federal Naval Squadron:
1 Kirov Class Battlecruiser (Admiral Ushinikov, flagship, 3 Kamov Ka-50's aboard)
1 Admiral Kutzenov Class Carrier (Admiral Kutzenov, 12 Su-33's, 5 Su-25 UDG's, 22 Ka-27)
5 Kashin Class Destroyers
6 Neustrashimy Class Frigates
1 Supply Ship
Daehanjeiguk
20-03-2007, 04:04
The Great Han Empire expresses its great satisfaction in hearing the interest of many great states from around the world, settled on pursuing peaceful uses of fusion technology as an open potential for development a new energy source. We are troubled by the curious inquiries for the development of fission technology, but are assured that the people were probably dreaming or born in the wrong decade. Nonetheless, we shall open a forum in Gwangju sometime soon to commence the cooperation in this developing technology.
The AIC furthermore offers its assurances that all those interested shall be considered equally of their merits, and most who consider working with us will be admitted to this international venture.
Candistan
20-03-2007, 04:34
Open announcement to the world and specifically Europe:
The RSFSR, in wake of certain conflicts and accusations against us, declares itself completely seperate from Europe. For too long have these nations sought control over us and our people. We are sick of you Europeans aside from the CCPS threatening us and our sovereignty. We will not stand idly by and get pushed around by you "superior" nations.
Newer Kiwiland
20-03-2007, 11:41
IC: The Kiwiland Defence Ministry has decided to mobilise airborne elements of the Imperial Guards Divisions. 2 Air Assault and 2 Aviation brigades, as well as several of the newly delivered An-124 and An-225 transports, will shortly invade Georgia, where they will assist all willing Chechen refugees to resettle in Siberia.
We ask the Great Han Empire and the Empire of Cripteria for overflight permissions.
In addition a warning has been issued to the Georgians to refrain from interfering with our work, as well as a guarauntee that all Kiwiland forces will leave at the earliest possible time. The Foreign Ministry would also like to reassure all regional powers that this is a pure humainitarian exercise.
The Ogasawara Regional Fleet and the Transport Fleets are also preparing to set sail.
SIC: We can arrange for the release of most POWs and interned Chechnyan's aside from those acccused of breaking Major Infringments.
OOC: No, most are in hiding, lots are dead, and even more fled.
SIC: Excellent. Thank you for your cooperation.
Animarnia
20-03-2007, 18:50
OOC: I'll link this to a seperate thread when it gets underway.
IC:
Addressed to the honorable nations of Honako, Animaria, South Africa, and the UASR
The Saharan Confederate Expanse cordially invites your nations to a Pan-African summit on continental defense, economics, and sociopolitical affairs in the SCE's federal capital of Lagos, in Nigeria District. All accomodations will be handled with utmost attention by the Expanse, and all needs and requests shall be met while the summit proceeds. We would like to point out the peaceful nature of this summit; we in the Expanse would prefer nothing to get too out of hand-however, we do encourage debate and discussion amongst African affairs so a better continental sphere around our traditionally downtrodden region may be better attained.
We hope you take this opportunity to promote Africanism as a whole and assist in paving the road to a better Pan-African future.
Best Regards,
SCE Foreign Affairs
On Behalf of her majesty we humbly accept this offer to attend a sumit on Pan Africanism and her Royal highness Queen Katriana Will be attending personally. however due to her parents death in an Aviation accident she refuses to fly; thus we will have to make alternate travel arangments. Her Royal Highness will travel to the Region of Niger by Highspeed Mag Train; where she will then board an armoured Limosuine with Military Escort to travel into Nigeria.Her Majesty will be accompanyed by five (5) trained Warrior Caste at all times.
Animarnia
20-03-2007, 21:39
SIC:
Animarnia today began construction of the X-99 Technology Demonstration test aircraft; the craft will feature the new AAE-2009-X10 RamFan Engine and several other new demonstration technologies for feasibility studies for future aircraft design. $125 Million has been allocated for construction of the X-99 from Government coffers with the rest being privately funded by Animarnia Aerospace Engineering and Animarnia Defence Systems.
Very Secret IC
North Pole Research Facility
Internal Report
Classified: Code Black
For the Attention of: Chief Scientist Jessica Arakawa
Project Codename: Archangel
Project Reference: #909HAAL5-AA
The X-99 Technology Demonstrator will be equipped as followed.
Type: Technology Demonstrator
Contractor: Animarnia Aerospace Engineering/ Animarnia Defence Systems
Length: 20.08 meters
Wingspan: 13.20 meters
Height: 5.78 meters
Propulsion: 2 x AAE-X Mark V 4D Thrust Vector RamFan Engines
Net Thrust: 34,545kg (76,000lb)
Empty Weight: 10,227kg (22,500lbs)
Maximum Take-Off Weight: 25,568kg (56,250lbs)
Normal Payload: 2,864kg (6300lb)
Maximum Payload: 4,691kg (10,320lbs)
Combat Range: 1200 miles
Ferry Range: 3240 miles
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 14,865 meters
Maximum Altitude: 21,865 meters
Cruising Speed: Mach 1.2
Super-cruising Speed: mach 2.2
After-burning Speed: Mach 2.9
Maximum Speed: Mach 2.9
Rate of Climb: 520m/s
Armament: (2 x Rotary) (12 x Internal Wing Tubes) (6 External) (19 Total)
1 x 25mm GAU-12 'Equaliser' Auto cannon
Internal -
6 x AIM-120C OR AIM-9 (Rotary)
6 x AIM -120C OR AIM-9 (Rotary)
12 x AIM-9 (Wing Tubes, 1 Missile per Tube, 6 tubes per side)
External -
4 x Missiles & 2 X Fuel Tanks
OR
8 x Missiles & 4 x Bombs
OR
8 x Bombs
OR
12 Missiles
Crew: 1 (1 Pilot)
Design Notes:
Angular Stealth Design
RAM Coating
Radar Absorbent Paint
No Tail Planes uses Thrust Vectoring
Active Aerolastic Wing Controls and Control Surfaces
Systems: -
Advanced Sound Suppression
Electronic Countermeasures (ECM)
Aerial Defence Counter Measure (ADCM)
Animarnia Integrated Computer and Fire Control System (AICFCS)
Chameleon Skin
Active Camouflage
Testing For: 3 years (Modifications to commence in 2012)
Cost: $125 Million USD provided by State and $500 Million USD Provided by Contractors
For Production: No.
Candistan
20-03-2007, 22:02
***Super Secret IC:***
Murmansk, Russia
At the port of Murmansk, a small fleet was amassing to move to an undisclosed location in the Pacific. Five Kashin Class Destroyers and six Neustrashimy Class Frigates along with a landing ship were loading up with numerous supplies and troops, including An entire Spetsnaz Company and two Guards infantry companies. Five Mil Mi-28 Havoc's and four Kamov Ka-50's were also loaded on. The landing ship was also loaded with some BTR-12's and four BMP-3's. The ships set sail towards the Pacific where they were to move off the coast of Panama. The RSFSR sent an encrypted message to the communist guerillas in that area.
ENCRYPTED MESSAGE
To: Communist Forces in Panama
From: RSFSR
We in the RSFSR support your cause and are willing to send "advisors" to help your troops drive the westerners out of your nation.
Amazonian Beasts
20-03-2007, 22:47
On Behalf of her majesty we humbly accept this offer to attend a sumit on Pan Africanism and her Royal highness Queen Katriana Will be attending personally. however due to her parents death in an Aviation accident she refuses to fly; thus we will have to make alternate travel arangments. Her Royal Highness will travel to the Region of Niger by Highspeed Mag Train; where she will then board an armoured Limosuine with Military Escort to travel into Nigeria.Her Majesty will be accompanyed by five (5) trained Warrior Caste at all times.
The SCE is perfectly fine with the alternate means of travel, and will ensure the best of the Expanse that the Queen will be fully accomodated for during the entire time of the summit and her stay in the Expanse.
Animarnia
21-03-2007, 02:11
A Peak into the Future
By Molly O'Tool
For: Future War Machines Magazine
Other than aircraft, no other war machine in history has played such a role in combat as the Main Battle tank in the 20th century. When nations go to war these large armoured beasts roll out onto the battlefields and slug it out we see this continuing long into the 21st Century. The Current Pinnacle of Tank Design is the German Leopard II and the American M1 Abrams; to date no other tank has compared to these two behemoths on the battlefield. The Animarnia Ground Defence Forces make use of the Russian built T-90 Main Battle tank but rumours of a new main line battle tank in the works have been flying around for some 3 years with officials neither confirming or denying its existence. Some corespondents have said we would simply be importing German Leopards or other Western tanks such as the Challenger II or M1 Abrams but others have said this tank will be completely new altogether and absolutely superior to all competitors.
Not much is known; at this time or even if this project is real; but a few officials speaking with guarantees of anonymity have said that Animarnia IS developing a new main battle tank. They refused to go into details citing national security and concern for there own lives but they said that several technologies currently in development would be applied to the new tank making it an unstoppable monster on the battlefield.
As said earlier much has been debated and rumoured some circles claim the new tank will have a coil gun or some other form of magnetic propellant; where as others have been more conservative saying a 120mm Electro Thermal Chemical cannon will be used. Little is known at this time other than; "it will turn an Abrams into smoking metal without too much trouble" to quote our anonymous source.
Rumour has it than the tank will also have a number of secondary weapons available to it including an Active Defence System. The armour is another matter of contention amongst defence analysts some say it will be very similar to the Abrams and Challengers Cherubim armour scheme others claim a composite of some kind. The word' "plasma' has also been thrown around in some circles but which is correct in anyone's guess but all agree its going to be something special and a little bit Animarnian.
The Rumours all agree that the tank will be as mobile as most current main battle tanks if not more so and be eighty tons or fewer fully loaded and will be able to carry External tanks. Hotly debated (other than if it actually exists) is whether the tank will be exported to foreign nations. As you can imagine getting a comment on this was difficult but our source said when posed this question. - "Good friends of Animarnia will be able to purchase the tank if they can afford it; but there will be cheaper alternatives". Which seems to imply the tank will be quite expensive; how much this project is costing the taxpayer is not known but also that there may be a cheaper version available in the future this seems to generate more questions than answers about the future of Animarnian warfare.
Newer Kiwiland
21-03-2007, 12:07
Units of the Kiwiland Imperial Land and Air Forces have set out from the Kansk Base. In order to avoid tensions with the Great Han Empire, they will be taking a route through Mongolia and into the Empire of Cripteria. Hopefully their inactivity will also translate to indifference to our troops passing through their land.
The destinations are Kazakhstan and Georgia, where the soldiers will set up temporary shelters with supplies flew in by the huge An-124 and even bigger An-225 planes. They will attempt to gather as many Chechens as possible, and inform them of their opportunity to resettle in Siberia.
Daehanjeiguk
21-03-2007, 19:18
Units of the Kiwiland Imperial Land and Air Forces have set out from the Kansk Base. In order to avoid tensions with the Great Han Empire, they will be taking a route through Mongolia and into the Empire of Cripteria. Hopefully their inactivity will also translate to indifference to our troops passing through their land.
The destinations are Kazakhstan and Georgia, where the soldiers will set up temporary shelters with supplies flew in by the huge An-124 and even bigger An-225 planes. They will attempt to gather as many Chechens as possible, and inform them of their opportunity to resettle in Siberia.
His Imperial Majesty reminds that the territorial sovereignty of the Weon Dynasty {Mongolia} shall not be infringed without their explicit permissions, as has been guaranteed by the Han Emperors since the 18th Century. That said, we ponder the reason why forces of Kiwiland should seek to project itself where its presence can neither be guaranteed nor assured. We caution your assumptions of tacit silence, as the proposal has been swamped with numerous other affairs (I'm on Spring Break - and I'm with family). That said, with good justification, we can see to a reason for the employment of Kiwiland forces if the ends justify the means.
Newer Kiwiland
23-03-2007, 01:57
The Kiwiland Expeditionary Force touched down just south of Russia, on the borders of Georgia and Azerbaijan. General Narimori Uesugi, commander of the KEF, ordered the helicopters to fly in groups of 2 Black Hawks and 2 Apaches, calling for refugees to come out of hiding in the countryside. Engineers have started working on airstrips for the transports to bring in supplies, and building shelters for everyone.
Meanwhile, a force of 1000 soldiers, pulled from the Air Cavalry battalions, sets off towards the city of Shaki in Azerbaijan, and after that Xaçmaz, both large cities near the border. For security purposes, 120 Apaches will be accompanying them, although all are on strict rules of engagement. It is hoped that they will be able to find more concentrated groups of refugees, and take them back to their main base of operations, while the helicopters cover the larger expanse of lands in between.
SIC: As expected, General Uesugi has requested for reinforcements. Aviation and Air Assault Brigades of the First, Second, Sixth and Eleventh Divisions are being mobilised. Most of them will getting ready for an incursion into Kazakhstan, where they will again be securing refugees.
However, due to strength of Kazakhstan and its organised government, the Eighth and Twelfth Divisions are also being secretly mobilised in the unfortunate event of conflict.
(OOC: sorry I was ambiguous, by inactivity I meant the Empire of Cripteria, who hasn't been online for 3 weeks....)
Kiwiland Foreign Ministry Press Release Statement
Kiwiland reassures the Great Han Empire that the Georgian Expeditionary Force is on a purely humanitarian mission, and has no intention of violating the sovereignty of any nation. We wish but to resuce our Chechen compatriots from their state of dire need. That said, we apologise for all and any distress that might have occurred due to our forces passing through foreign territories.
Oto Kajiura
Kiwiland Foreign Ministry Spokesperson
Candistan
23-03-2007, 03:43
Exchange Point Kilo, 0100 Hours, Russian/Georgian Border
The masked Spetsnaz soldiers guarded the checkpoint constructed as an exchange point for Chechnyan Refugees. Across the bridge, Kiwiland soldiers and aid workers ushered away the stream of refugees moving across the bridge. A platoon of sickly looking Chechen POW's were marched across, accompanied to the exchange line by squads of Spetsnaz men. Russian Helicopters circled above shining their spotlights down on the flood of refugees seeking shelter by in the Kiwiland Empire.
Candistan
23-03-2007, 04:07
Appx. 700km Southeast of Hawaii, East Pacific Ocean
The small flotilla of Russian vessels sailed closer to Panama to help their socialist brethren. Armand Maurice de Santiago, leader of the Communist guerillas in Panama and Southern Costa Rica answered the RSFSR's previous message.
Greetings, Comrades! We are glad that someone has finally taken notice of our cause. We would appreciate Russian support in our plight and would be happy to acquire safe docking in one of our controlled ports. Set your course to the port of La Palma. There you and your men will be met with great happiness from my men, my people and myself.
The flotilla moved onwards to their destination and hopefully a new communist run state.
Jaredcohenia
23-03-2007, 04:34
EXTREMELY SIC:
To: The Leadership of the Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republics
Greetings,
I see your problems with certain people in Chechnya and their exodus into the nations of Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.
Before I go any further, do you want the Chechens-the men who destroyed several of your cities and killed millions of your men-around? Or do you want them dead?
Contact me if you have an answer.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Candistan
23-03-2007, 12:54
EXTREMELY SIC:
To: The Leadership of the Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republics
Greetings,
I see your problems with certain people in Chechnya and their exodus into the nations of Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.
Before I go any further, do you want the Chechens-the men who destroyed several of your cities and killed millions of your men-around? Or do you want them dead?
Contact me if you have an answer.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
SSIC
If you can help us find them and transport them to us under the radar, then yes we want them. Not dead though, for my men will make their existence more miserable and putrid than any person on this planet's has ever been.
General Koslovic
Newer Kiwiland
23-03-2007, 15:53
Exchange Point Kilo, 0100 Hours, Russian/Georgian Border
The masked Spetsnaz soldiers guarded the checkpoint constructed as an exchange point for Chechnyan Refugees. Across the bridge, Kiwiland soldiers and aid workers ushered away the stream of refugees moving across the bridge. A platoon of sickly looking Chechen POW's were marched across, accompanied to the exchange line by squads of Spetsnaz men. Russian Helicopters circled above shining their spotlights down on the flood of refugees seeking shelter by in the Kiwiland Empire.
SIC: General Uesugi watched impassively as the negotiated transfer occurred. As more and more of the Chechens crossed over, it became evident to him that the Europeans are keeping their side of the promise.
"Deliver the package," he ordered, and soon a 50 tonne truck appeared, one of the monsters used by the Imperial Land Force. It was flew in by the gigantic An-225 this morning, and now slowly drove towards the Russian positions until it reached the group of Spetsnaz troops marching POWs towards them. General Uesugi pushed his way through to them.
"My country will be grateful for your help," Uesugi told someone he hoped was the leader. "We offer you this truck in return. In it is fully 50 tonnes of gold, worth more than $1 billion in total. We believe you accept gold currencies?"
Jaredcohenia
23-03-2007, 21:08
SSIC
If you can help us find them and transport them to us under the radar, then yes we want them. Not dead though, for my men will make their existence more miserable and putrid than any person on this planet's has ever been.
General Koslovic
SIC:
General Koslovic,
Transport them to you? Don't you believe that sending Chechens into a nation where they're hated publically will be a bit suspicious?
My plan is to not only split the spoils of the Caucausus Mountains between the two of our nations-both of us formerly allied during the First and Second Great Wars-but to also remove the Chechen from their existance. Perhaps even day camps where they can think a bit.
The end of the Chechen would require such a large military of yourself and the lands that I have in my own nation. Clearly, people have you under the radar and believe that you would be able to destroy such a foe. But us? Who would think that Serbs, Bulgars, and Turks would want to kill Chechens? And if they did, it would be 'Kurds' who did the killing.
What I propose is that we both form a secret alliance, splitting the Caucasian Mountains between the two of us. You getting the nation of Georgia, I getting Azerbaijan and Armenia. There is a score I must settle with Armenia.
Let me know if you're still interested. We could split the murders if you'd like.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Candistan
23-03-2007, 21:09
SIC: General Uesugi watched impassively as the negotiated transfer occurred. As more and more of the Chechens crossed over, it became evident to him that the Europeans are keeping their side of the promise.
"Deliver the package," he ordered, and soon a 50 tonne truck appeared, one of the monsters used by the Imperial Land Force. It was flew in by the gigantic An-225 this morning, and now slowly drove towards the Russian positions until it reached the group of Spetsnaz troops marching POWs towards them. General Uesugi pushed his way through to them.
"My country will be grateful for your help," Uesugi told someone he hoped was the leader. "We offer you this truck in return. In it is fully 50 tonnes of gold, worth more than $1 billion in total. We believe you accept gold currencies?"
Colonel Nikanor, leader of the Spetsnaz unit, approached the General.
"I cannot accept this gold, General. You cannot put a price on human life. My nations leaders are blood-drunk and sick, but our soldiers are good men. They did not want to carry out this assault against innocents." he sighed and looked at the refugees marching into Georgia. Then he turned back to the General. "I am sure you are a good man, General. I must thanbk you for helping these people in need." he shook his hand and slipped a piece of paper into it. "I must return to my post now," he said, saluting the General. "Farewell."
The note explained a coup that was going to take place versus the government and asked for support of their cause from the Kiwiland Empire.
OOC: just some more things to spice up the RP
Candistan
23-03-2007, 21:14
SIC:
General Koslovic,
Transport them to you? Don't you believe that sending Chechens into a nation where they're hated publically will be a bit suspicious?
My plan is to not only split the spoils of the Caucausus Mountains between the two of our nations-both of us formerly allied during the First and Second Great Wars-but to also remove the Chechen from their existance. Perhaps even day camps where they can think a bit.
The end of the Chechen would require such a large military of yourself and the lands that I have in my own nation. Clearly, people have you under the radar and believe that you would be able to destroy such a foe. But us? Who would think that Serbs, Bulgars, and Turks would want to kill Chechens? And if they did, it would be 'Kurds' who did the killing.
What I propose is that we both form a secret alliance, splitting the Caucasian Mountains between the two of us. You getting the nation of Georgia, I getting Azerbaijan and Armenia. There is a score I must settle with Armenia.
Let me know if you're still interested. We could split the murders if you'd like.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
We are willing to support your cause for both of our benefits, but I do not believe now is the best time for invasion. The EEU and the Democratic Alliance would respond with force against my nation, something we cannot afford. I am able to help with the assassinations of the leaders, though.
Daehanjeiguk
23-03-2007, 23:59
ooc: being naturally suspicious, I inquire if this exchange is SIC or not...
IC: The Imperial Academy of Foreign Studies is sending its elite professor - Yi Hongjang - on a tour of the world. His tour will include a fourteen week seminar on the culture of the Han and how these traditions affect the perception of the Han and their perception of the world, as an opportunity to non-Han students to delve into the wealth of insight that makes the Han culture unique and altogether imposing. He will be making stops where welcomed by the local governments. The Han Ministry of Imperial Affairs Education Department is seeking potential renowned universities willing to host Professor Yi's lectures for 14 weeks during his tour of the world.
ooc: basically, I'm starting up an education on the Han culture thread - I'm looking for volunteers to be the host country, and I'll leave it pretty much open to everyone who wants to learn about my country and how to become friendly with it, or better how to become enemies with it.
Newer Kiwiland
24-03-2007, 03:55
Colonel Nikanor, leader of the Spetsnaz unit, approached the General.
"I cannot accept this gold, General. You cannot put a price on human life. My nations leaders are blood-drunk and sick, but our soldiers are good men. They did not want to carry out this assault against innocents." he sighed and looked at the refugees marching into Georgia. Then he turned back to the General. "I am sure you are a good man, General. I must thanbk you for helping these people in need." he shook his hand and slipped a piece of paper into it. "I must return to my post now," he said, saluting the General. "Farewell."
The note explained a coup that was going to take place versus the government and asked for support of their cause from the Kiwiland Empire.
OOC: just some more things to spice up the RP
SIC: Narimori stared at the piece of paper and the receding back of the Colonel with confusion. They are asking us for help? He shook his head and walked back to his post. He needs to get this to Imperial Headquarters as soon as possibel.
Tomorrow the bulk of his original force will be back from Azerbaijan, while the newly arrived reinforcement has been sent on a path going through Telavi, Mtskheta, Gori, Ambrolauri and finally Sukhumi. With the help of the helicopters, which had finished their sweeps into the countryside, all operations should be completed by the end of the week.
He hoped that no one shows up uninvited before then.
Jaredcohenia
24-03-2007, 04:51
SIC:
General Zoran Melmek stood on the peak of Mount Aramat, near the city of Idgir. From this peak, he could see Azerbaijan, Armenia, and Iran. He looked over the boarder, into Armenia. He had orders from Belgrade to take all of Armenia and capture any Chechen he could find. Any other Armenian was to be assimilated to become either a Serb, a Bulgarian, or a Türk. The Balkan Union has refused any Armenian to cross it's borders and has a blockade of the land locked country, isolating it from the rest of the world.
150 Leopard 2A4 Tanks
350 M 60A3 TTS Tanks
200 T-72 MBT
20 M95 Degman MBT
40 K-9 howitzers
50,000 soldiers (Equipped with HK MP5s
52 F-4 Phantom IIs
SIC:
To: General Koslovic, RSFSR
We know that you said you are not ready for any combat, but we are. Can we expect aerial support and your help bombing cities in Armenia?
Like we said, we can send various Chechens to your nation if we find them. But we will keep regular Armenians to ourselves.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Candistan
24-03-2007, 04:54
SIC:
General Zoran Melmek stood on the peak of Mount Aramat, near the city of Idgir. From this peak, he could see Azerbaijan, Armenia, and Iran. He looked over the boarder, into Armenia. He had orders from Belgrade to take all of Armenia and capture any Chechen he could find. Any other Armenian was to be assimilated to become either a Serb, a Bulgarian, or a Türk. The Balkan Union has refused any Armenian to cross it's borders and has a blockade of the land locked country, isolating it from the rest of the world.
150 Leopard 2A4 Tanks
350 M 60A3 TTS Tanks
200 T-72 MBT
20 M95 Degman MBT
40 K-9 howitzers
50,000 soldiers (Equipped with HK MP5s
52 F-4 Phantom IIs
SIC:
To: General Koslovic, RSFSR
We know that you said you are not ready for any combat, but we are. Can we expect aerial support and your help bombing cities in Armenia?
Like we said, we can send various Chechens to your nation if we find them. But we will keep regular Armenians to ourselves.
Dragiša Crvenkovski
SIC:
We can funnel support to your cause if you can make up an excuse that the international community would buy into to invade Armenia. If you can come up with such an excuse, than you have our full-fledged support.
Jaredcohenia
24-03-2007, 04:59
SIC:
We can funnel support to your cause if you can make up an excuse that the international community would buy into to invade Armenia. If you can come up with such an excuse, than you have our full-fledged support.
SIC:
There have indeed been Armenian riots in Constantinople and Ankara. They apparently blame me for some kind of genocide that happened in 1915. How can they believe that such a thing happened?
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Candistan
24-03-2007, 05:20
SIC:
There have indeed been Armenian riots in Constantinople and Ankara. They apparently blame me for some kind of genocide that happened in 1915. How can they believe that such a thing happened?
Dragiša Crvenkovski
SIC:
If you have your story worked out then by all means, bomb away. We warn you though, Kiwiland Forces are in that area.
Newer Kiwiland
24-03-2007, 09:58
OOC: why not throw in expelling Kiwiland forces as another excuse? :D
Although a genoicidal war would probably snowball better. I assume Jaredcohenia will open up a new thread for this?
Jaredcohenia
24-03-2007, 19:38
OOC: why not throw in expelling Kiwiland forces as another excuse? :D
Although a genoicidal war would probably snowball better. I assume Jaredcohenia will open up a new thread for this?
OOC:
Depends, is your being in the area going to be known to me when I press for invasion?
Bulletin from the Defenese Department and Foreign Afairs office
The United Kingdom of Great Bitain and Ireland announces that it has started limited operations in Western France to stabalize the situation there and the prevent the chaos from spreading. It ensures other nations that this is not an Imperialistic Landgrab, we are just trying to bring peace to Metropolitan France.
Prime Minister David Cameron
Foreign Minister William Hague
Defense Minister Liam Fox
Newer Kiwiland
25-03-2007, 02:09
OOC:
Depends, is your being in the area going to be known to me when I press for invasion?
OOC: Yup, I announced sending 4 brigades of primarily air cav and Apaches to the area to carry out humaintarian missions for the Chechens.
I actually SICly sent 5 I think.
Jaredcohenia
25-03-2007, 02:29
OOC: Yup, I announced sending 4 brigades of primarily air cav and Apaches to the area to carry out humaintarian missions for the Chechens.
I actually SICly sent 5 I think.
OOC: Well I can assure you, if you send my nation that neighbors Armenia a message we'll treat these Chechens nicely. You have my word.
Jaredcohenia
25-03-2007, 04:20
To: Armenia and the World
Greetings to our Armenian Neighbors:
For nearly 100 years, our two nations have been separated over an action that happened in 1915, what you call the Armenian Genocide. While the rest of the world, including yourselves, believe it was a genocide; we cast a cold shoulder. All of these actions never occured, but it is definite that Armenians were killed during this time.
As of today, this day of March 25th, the Balkan Union hereby recognizes the attrocities that occured by the Ottoman Empire to its' Armenian natives. The actions of the Ottomans were horrid, and something that by denying we hoped to forget. My grandparents lived in the Ottoman Empire in Serbia, and I can assure you that my grandpa told me awful stories of when he lived under the power of a Sultan. I can not begin to imagine the hardships faced by Armenians under the fear of the Sultan and his ways.
We invite the Armenian President to Constantinople to discuss new relations with the Balkan Union, starting with the reopening of Balkan-Armenian borders.
We hope that this is a new dawn for the Balkan Union and Armenia. We hope to hear from you!
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Dragiša Crvenkovski, the Prime Minister
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
Daehanjeiguk
25-03-2007, 05:20
Bulletin from the Defenese Department and Foreign Afairs office
The United Kingdom of Great Bitain and Ireland announces that it has started limited operations in Western France to stabalize the situation there and the prevent the chaos from spreading. It ensures other nations that this is not an Imperialistic Landgrab, we are just trying to bring peace to Metropolitan France.
Prime Minister David Cameron
Foreign Minister William Hague
Defense Minister Liam Fox
His Imperial Majesty's Government is thoroughly angered by this outrage in European soils - the travesty upon foreign sovereign soil. Whereas His Imperial Majesty's Government has received no indications that the social conditions in the current French territories has degenerated to such an extent that the people are incapable of governing themselves, your governments have catalyzed chaos in your own realm by sending military forces to such an unstable region. His Imperial Majesty's government condemns all current military moves upon the state of France and its territories, demanding immediate cessation of all activities involved with the infringement, immediate rectification of this action, and channeling of constructive energies to preserving the state in France rather to destroy it.
The United Kingdom in particular has demonstrated absolutely no restraint in conducting the proper modes of state affairs, acting more like a rabble of barbarians marveling over the excesses of French civilization. It was in this manner that your former tribes were known, and it is in this manner that your peoples currently emulate such actions of your barbarian predecessors. After having dealt with your descendants in India recently, trying to topple the balance of order in the Orient by invading Bhutan, we are thoroughly displeased to see the progenitors stirring the same problems, leading our government to conclude that the source of this troubling activity resides there. Stop it - your military affairs have not solved anything in the restoration of order in France; what travesty has their government committed against yours? What grievous error justifies this invasion of their soil? What purpose do you aim in destroying the fabrics of their ill society? It is only obvious that your government is not versed in the matters of civil government and will require much education in correcting this state behavior.
And the Germans - they have not learned their lesson in two wars. The Han did not intercede in those two instances, but it seems that only pure and judicial disciplining will solve this problem. Your country too has this history of the barbarian tribes - the ones that destroyed Rome {Daejin}. The ancient dynasties reported these to us in their histories, and we have testament to the corrosive nature of your peoples. Your people still embrace expansionist policies, even as the world continues to reject that ideology. We will fight this expansionism - and we will do as much to force out this tendency in the West by starting here. Europe has long been the bastion of barbarians - and the marvelous civilizations that it created were thence destroyed by themselves because they have not received proper instruction on the manner of government and society.
We restate our demands - cease military operations in France; restore order; and rectify your inflicted damages upon them. Lest we remind you, we back our words absolutely.
GENERAL SECRETARY OF THE IMPERIAL CABINET
帝國內閣的總書記 {제국내각의총서기}
http://wiki.galbijim.com/images/2/20/Korea-arms2.gif
SIC
All forces not involved with already present operations are expected to prepare for mobilization orders, to be deployed within 72 hours. Same orders apply to naval and aerial units.
Candistan
25-03-2007, 05:25
SIC: La Palma, Panama
The Russian ships docked at the port in the dead of night. The Spetsnaz and Guards infantry unloaded all of the vehicles and supplies and moved it to a warehouse where the Rebels were waiting to see them. The Russian Commander met with the Rebel commander and began discussing how the rebels would push out the Loyalist forces in the north.
Newer Kiwiland
25-03-2007, 05:28
OOC: Well I can assure you, if you send my nation that neighbors Armenia a message we'll treat these Chechens nicely. You have my word.
OOC: Err what? Aren't you gonna invaded and kill them and the Armenians??
Daehanjeiguk
25-03-2007, 05:36
La Palma, Panama
The Russian ships docked at the port in the dead of night. The Spetsnaz and Guards infantry unloaded all of the vehicles and supplies and moved it to a warehouse where the Rebels were waiting to see them. The Russian Commander met with the Rebel commander and began discussing how the rebels would push out the Loyalist forces in the north.
ooc: let's all hope that this is sic so we don't know what the heck the Russians are doing in Panama, because I'd be very angry, given world-wide chaos... already oocly, I love the attention, because I have some reason to be angry now ^_^
Candistan
25-03-2007, 05:40
ooc: let's all hope that this is sic so we don't know what the heck the Russians are doing in Panama, because I'd be very angry, given world-wide chaos... already oocly, I love the attention, because I have some reason to be angry now ^_^
OOC: whoops! I fixed it.
His Imperial Majesty's Government is thoroughly angered by this outrage in European soils - the travesty upon foreign sovereign soil. Whereas His Imperial Majesty's Government has received no indications that the social conditions in the current French territories has degenerated to such an extent that the people are incapable of governing themselves, your governments have catalyzed chaos in your own realm by sending military forces to such an unstable region. His Imperial Majesty's government condemns all current military moves upon the state of France and its territories, demanding immediate cessation of all activities involved with the infringement, immediate rectification of this action, and channeling of constructive energies to preserving the state in France rather to destroy it.
The United Kingdom in particular has demonstrated absolutely no restraint in conducting the proper modes of state affairs, acting more like a rabble of barbarians marveling over the excesses of French civilization. It was in this manner that your former tribes were known, and it is in this manner that your peoples currently emulate such actions of your barbarian predecessors. After having dealt with your descendants in India recently, trying to topple the balance of order in the Orient by invading Bhutan, we are thoroughly displeased to see the progenitors stirring the same problems, leading our government to conclude that the source of this troubling activity resides there. Stop it - your military affairs have not solved anything in the restoration of order in France; what travesty has their government committed against yours? What grievous error justifies this invasion of their soil? What purpose do you aim in destroying the fabrics of their ill society? It is only obvious that your government is not versed in the matters of civil government and will require much education in correcting this state behavior.
And the Germans - they have not learned their lesson in two wars. The Han did not intercede in those two instances, but it seems that only pure and judicial disciplining will solve this problem. Your country too has this history of the barbarian tribes - the ones that destroyed Rome {Daejin}. The ancient dynasties reported these to us in their histories, and we have testament to the corrosive nature of your peoples. Your people still embrace expansionist policies, even as the world continues to reject that ideology. We will fight this expansionism - and we will do as much to force out this tendency in the West by starting here. Europe has long been the bastion of barbarians - and the marvelous civilizations that it created were thence destroyed by themselves because they have not received proper instruction on the manner of government and society.
We restate our demands - cease military operations in France; restore order; and rectify your inflicted damages upon them. Lest we remind you, we back our words absolutely.
GENERAL SECRETARY OF THE IMPERIAL CABINET
帝國內閣的總書記 {제국내각의총서기}
http://wiki.galbijim.com/images/2/20/Korea-arms2.gif
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland is surprised by the aggresive response from the Empire of Han. We once again affirm that we are not there to stay for eternity, we merely wish to prevent chhaos from spreading. You say you did not pick up any forms of anarchy or chaos. It is not our fault that your intelligence agencies can't pick up disturbing messages across the globe.
The fact that the French Imperial Government collapsed is one of the many signs that things were amiss in France. With a strong Nuclear Force lying in port only 100 miles from our homesoil, barely 150 miles from our capitol, we can not allow chaos to reign in France. If a madman decides to launch these weapons, we would be in deep trouble.
I would agree with your protests if our actions were pure imperialistic, but they are not. You claim we are imperialistic, and you suggest we are responsable fro India's actions in Bhutan. How can we be responsable for a country which has been out of our control for more than 65 years? A lot has happened in the time since India's independance.
We do not wish to cause a fight with the Han Empire. If possible we like to resolve this conflict via words, not arms. Therefor we propose a diplomatic meeting either here in London, in Beijing or in a neutral country.
Sincerely,
David Cameron, Prime Minister
Franberry
25-03-2007, 20:39
To: Armenia and the World
Greetings to our Armenian Neighbors:
For nearly 100 years, our two nations have been separated over an action that happened in 1915, what you call the Armenian Genocide. While the rest of the world, including yourselves, believe it was a genocide; we cast a cold shoulder. All of these actions never occured, but it is definite that Armenians were killed during this time.
As of today, this day of March 25th, the Balkan Union hereby recognizes the attrocities that occured by the Ottoman Empire to its' Armenian natives. The actions of the Ottomans were horrid, and something that by denying we hoped to forget. My grandparents lived in the Ottoman Empire in Serbia, and I can assure you that my grandpa told me awful stories of when he lived under the power of a Sultan. I can not begin to imagine the hardships faced by Armenians under the fear of the Sultan and his ways.
We invite the Armenian President to Constantinople to discuss new relations with the Balkan Union, starting with the reopening of Balkan-Armenian borders.
We hope that this is a new dawn for the Balkan Union and Armenia. We hope to hear from you!
Dragiša Crvenkovski
Dragiša Crvenkovski, the Prime Minister
The Balkan Union of Southeastern Europe
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AS ARMENIA, NOT THE RUS
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Armenia is extremely pleased that finally our Turkish neighbours have seen the truth, and accepted it. March 25th is indeed a great day, especially when followed by your offer for talks, as we feel that the relation between the Balkan Union and Armenia shall be finally allowed to progress. I shall attend your meeting to further the relation between our countries. In a sign of friendship, our military planes shall be re-based north, away from Balkan Union airspace.
Signed,
Robert Kocharian,
President of Armenia
His Imperial Majesty's Government is thoroughly angered by this outrage in European soils - the travesty upon foreign sovereign soil. Whereas His Imperial Majesty's Government has received no indications that the social conditions in the current French territories has degenerated to such an extent that the people are incapable of governing themselves, your governments have catalyzed chaos in your own realm by sending military forces to such an unstable region. His Imperial Majesty's government condemns all current military moves upon the state of France and its territories, demanding immediate cessation of all activities involved with the infringement, immediate rectification of this action, and channeling of constructive energies to preserving the state in France rather to destroy it.
The United Kingdom in particular has demonstrated absolutely no restraint in conducting the proper modes of state affairs, acting more like a rabble of barbarians marveling over the excesses of French civilization. It was in this manner that your former tribes were known, and it is in this manner that your peoples currently emulate such actions of your barbarian predecessors. After having dealt with your descendants in India recently, trying to topple the balance of order in the Orient by invading Bhutan, we are thoroughly displeased to see the progenitors stirring the same problems, leading our government to conclude that the source of this troubling activity resides there. Stop it - your military affairs have not solved anything in the restoration of order in France; what travesty has their government committed against yours? What grievous error justifies this invasion of their soil? What purpose do you aim in destroying the fabrics of their ill society? It is only obvious that your government is not versed in the matters of civil government and will require much education in correcting this state behavior.
And the Germans - they have not learned their lesson in two wars. The Han did not intercede in those two instances, but it seems that only pure and judicial disciplining will solve this problem. Your country too has this history of the barbarian tribes - the ones that destroyed Rome {Daejin}. The ancient dynasties reported these to us in their histories, and we have testament to the corrosive nature of your peoples. Your people still embrace expansionist policies, even as the world continues to reject that ideology. We will fight this expansionism - and we will do as much to force out this tendency in the West by starting here. Europe has long been the bastion of barbarians - and the marvelous civilizations that it created were thence destroyed by themselves because they have not received proper instruction on the manner of government and society.
We restate our demands - cease military operations in France; restore order; and rectify your inflicted damages upon them. Lest we remind you, we back our words absolutely.
GENERAL SECRETARY OF THE IMPERIAL CABINET
帝國內閣的總書記 {제국내각의총서기}
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To: The Han Empire
From: The German Confederation
You have this all wrong. We are not in the Benelux to annex it or make it another part of out Confederation. We are here to help the people of the Benelux rebuild. We've had to use force because Anarchists forces are looting much of the area. This would never have happened had the French Government not been so inept at Administrating.
Sincerely
Joerg Dresner.
Daehanjeiguk
26-03-2007, 05:29
To: The Han Empire
From: The German Confederation
You have this all wrong. We are not in the Benelux to annex it or make it another part of out Confederation. We are here to help the people of the Benelux rebuild. We've had to use force because Anarchists forces are looting much of the area. This would never have happened had the French Government not been so inept at Administrating.
Sincerely
Joerg Dresner.
Reply:
If your government so desires the things it claims, then show us your restraint by dropping the military force. Civil order is not restored by sending in an army - where one army goes, another one is destined to follow. And if the French are so inept are government, explain to us why you are invading them instead of them invading you.
Daehanjeiguk
26-03-2007, 05:37
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland is surprised by the aggresive response from the Empire of Han. We once again affirm that we are not there to stay for eternity, we merely wish to prevent chhaos from spreading. You say you did not pick up any forms of anarchy or chaos. It is not our fault that your intelligence agencies can't pick up disturbing messages across the globe.
The fact that the French Imperial Government collapsed is one of the many signs that things were amiss in France. With a strong Nuclear Force lying in port only 100 miles from our homesoil, barely 150 miles from our capitol, we can not allow chaos to reign in France. If a madman decides to launch these weapons, we would be in deep trouble.
I would agree with your protests if our actions were pure imperialistic, but they are not. You claim we are imperialistic, and you suggest we are responsable fro India's actions in Bhutan. How can we be responsable for a country which has been out of our control for more than 65 years? A lot has happened in the time since India's independance.
We do not wish to cause a fight with the Han Empire. If possible we like to resolve this conflict via words, not arms. Therefor we propose a diplomatic meeting either here in London, in Beijing or in a neutral country.
Sincerely,
David Cameron, Prime Minister
Reply:
The response is aggressive - it must be; otherwise it is ignored, and then we become belligerent. The fact that the British government has- instead of sending civil advisers to France - insisted to send armed forces to a region that was otherwise stable, if only otherwise unproductive. The United Kingdom demonstrates to us a lack of restraint and civil minded action - the path to war is the most practiced and least cherished of state affairs, and it is not to be employed so slightly to expand into a neighbor's territory to restore his order and otherwise open the calls to hostility whereby the French only learn to distrust the British instead of favor their civil administration in war. As far as this madman, your imagination vexes us, as we have seen no reason to perceive a nuclear threat from a state that has otherwise slipped into obscurity.
And to defend the actions of your former colony is inexcusable. The local monarchy is unable to restrain itself from pursuing reasonable civil functions, instead choosing the heated quest to solve their crises by force than by influence. The Han Empire shares the desire to remain at peace, and therefore we hope that this common desire shall be sufficient to turn this situation from hostility to peace and better wealth for the both of us. The first condition - your forces must cease military operations. After the cessation of hostilities, we will consider a conference to resolve the issue at hand.
Animarnia
26-03-2007, 06:26
Animarnia Landwarrior Inc would like to announce that the AR-12 Assault Rifle is now offically on sale; at a price of $3600 (USD) each. however there will be discounts for nations that helped us during development and testing. The Animarnia Armed forces will be changing to the AR-12 as soon as production is up to full capacity
Please Contact Animarnia Landwarrior Inc for sales.
(for specs see back a few pages here makes it easier than posting again)
Daehanjeiguk
26-03-2007, 06:53
Animarnia Landwarrior Inc would like to announce that the AR-12 Assault Rifle is now offically on sale; at a price of $3600 (USD) each. however there will be discounts for nations that helped us during development and testing. The Animarnia Armed forces will be changing to the AR-12 as soon as production is up to full capacity
Please Contact Animarnia Landwarrior Inc for sales.
(for specs see back a few pages here makes it easier than posting again)
SIC:
The Han Government inquires to the progress of its citizens in their cooperation with Animarian developers in researching the new designs and how our government can be a of greater service to this project and your government.
Reply:
If your government so desires the things it claims, then show us your restraint by dropping the military force. Civil order is not restored by sending in an army - where one army goes, another one is destined to follow. And if the French are so inept are government, explain to us why you are invading them instead of them invading you.
Reply:
And leave the area to fall into Anarchy and Civil War? We think you don't understand the situation fully. If there was a civil war happening on your borders wouldn't you do something? I would think you would do the most prudent thing and stop all fighting between the groups and help them work together. To do that without military action would require weeks, possibly months of work. All the while they are still fighting each other. I am sorry to say, but that doesn't work with us.
Although we don't quite understand why the British are being so damn aggresive. We didn't order for Air-strikes to be done, nor did we blow up French Military Equipment. We have actually been stockpiling it so that when this is all over we can return it the proper authorities.
Also to answer your question on why they aren't invading us. Because they know quite well that they would suffer a defeat that would Rival the Franco-Prussian War of 19th Century.
Sincerely
Joerg Dresner
Candistan
26-03-2007, 22:51
CANN Report: Rebels make push North against loyal UPWS forces
AP, Panama-Earlier today, Panamanian Rebels made a Northern push from their held territory into the Loyalist controlled Veraguas, Cocle, and San Blas Provinces. In more strange news, three attack helicopters assaulted a loyalist base in the city of Santiago in Varaguas Province. They lacked markings and managed to destroy a major refueling and supply base for the loyal forces. A spokesman for the Loyalist forces admitted that no air defense was up since it wasn't known the rebels owned any of these helicopters. Loyalists are now looking into how the rebels came across and acquired these.
Cortellen
26-03-2007, 22:59
Broadcast to the world
The Free Federations of South America is joining the international stage. We have just formed as a matter of self interest and we are quite eager to start diplomatic talks with any and every country.
Animarnia
27-03-2007, 00:20
SIC:
The Han Government inquires to the progress of its citizens in their cooperation with Animarian developers in researching the new designs and how our government can be a of greater service to this project and your government.
SIC
Encrypted Reply
Code: Black (highest)
Progress is developing nicely; several projects have been finished but not released to any general public including:
Lightweight Paper thing Circuit Boards
New Sensor Fused Ram Jet Tank Munitions
Several New Techonogies for Tank Cannons including ETC.
Electrobelt Dynamic Suspension
Soft Cell Super Coolants
We are building the first prototype of the Iron Kong main battletank this month sans the new armour scheme as some projects related to the armour arn't finished yet so the prototpye will use a Ceramic, Titanium Composite only.
We hope to have an early prototype finished by 2013.
Maldorians
27-03-2007, 00:35
Broadcast to the world
The Free Federations of South America is joining the international stage. We have just formed as a matter of self interest and we are quite eager to start diplomatic talks with any and every country.
We, The Central American Alliance, would like an alliance, since we are almost neighboring countries...
Maldorians
27-03-2007, 00:36
Double post
Maldorians
27-03-2007, 00:36
CANN Report: Rebels make push North against loyal UPWS forces
AP, Panama-Earlier today, Panamanian Rebels made a Northern push from their held territory into the Loyalist controlled Veraguas, Cocle, and San Blas Provinces. In more strange news, three attack helicopters assaulted a loyalist base in the city of Santiago in Varaguas Province. They lacked markings and managed to destroy a major refueling and supply base for the loyal forces. A spokesman for the Loyalist forces admitted that no air defense was up since it wasn't known the rebels owned any of these helicopters. Loyalists are now looking into how the rebels came across and acquired these.
Your annexing Panama?....That ruins my plans of Uniting Central America...
Whyatica
27-03-2007, 00:42
OOC:Make a new thread regarding the Panama thing, because I'm going to intervene in that. I can't let Panama fall to the commies.
Candistan
27-03-2007, 00:44
CANN Report: UPWS SUpply Ship destroyed in Panama Canal
AP, Panama-In the wake of the rebel push north, a UPWS supply ship heading to Panama City was attacked and sunk by a group of five attack helicopters. Like the first attack, the helicopters came from out of nowhere and struck fast. The Loyalists in Panama are growing extremely frustrated with these unnannounced helicopter attacks and have sworn vengence against those piloting them.
Franberry
27-03-2007, 00:44
OOC:Make a new thread regarding the Panama thing, because I'm going to intervene in that. I can't let Panama fall to the commies.
OOC: Not to mention that Panama is practically a US Puppet, and this will get the USA, the IRR and the RUS angry at you, and maybe the CAA.
Candistan
27-03-2007, 00:45
Your annexing Panama?....That ruins my plans of Uniting Central America...
Not annexing, just putting a friendly gov't up instead of the collapsed one taking control there. By the way, no one knows that Russia is helping them (yet).
Candistan
27-03-2007, 00:47
OOC: Not to mention that Panama is practically a US Puppet, and this will get the USA, the IRR and the RUS angry at you, and maybe the CAA.
In SYAE it was formerly a socialist nation part of the Union of people's and worker's states, therefore giving the US and its capitalism no right to intervene on a socialist country it has never had control over.
Whyatica
27-03-2007, 00:47
OOC:When Russian military equipment starts showing up with the rebels, it'd be pretty obvious. But make a new thread because I'm going to open a can of police action on the Panamanian rebels.
Franberry
27-03-2007, 00:48
In SYAE it was formerly a socialist nation part of the Union of people's and worker's states, therefore giving the US and its capitalism no right to intervene on a socialist country it has never had control over.
OOC: gotcha.
Candistan
27-03-2007, 00:52
I am still confused why the US wants to get the commies out of Panama when it is Hardline Commies fighting moderate socialist rebels. It is already Commies vs. Commies.
Maldorians
27-03-2007, 00:54
OOC:Make a new thread regarding the Panama thing, because I'm going to intervene in that. I can't let Panama fall to the commies.
OOC: If I help you defend it from Communism can I annex it to my Central American Alliance...:D
*Is prepared to pay money for it*
Whyatica
27-03-2007, 00:54
OOC:Because I can't permit there to be a communist government that controls such a vital shipping lane, and the capitalists of the world should agree with me >>> but anyway, make a new thread regarding that.
Candistan
27-03-2007, 00:57
OOC: If I help you defend it from Communism can I annex it to my Central American Alliance...:D
*Is prepared to pay money for it*
One condition...It is split in two. The Panamanian Gov't will control the Provinces of Panama, Colon, Cocle, Darien and the Territory of San Blas along with the Archipelago de las Perlas. You get the provinces of Herrera, Los Santos, Veraguas, Bocas Del Toro, and Chiriqui.
Candistan
27-03-2007, 00:57
OOC:Because I can't permit there to be a communist government that controls such a vital shipping lane, and the capitalists of the world should agree with me >>> but anyway, make a new thread regarding that.
I did. Its called the Panamanian Conflict.
Maldorians
27-03-2007, 00:59
One condition...It is split in two. The Panamanian Gov't will control the Provinces of Panama, Colon, Cocle, Darien and the Territory of San Blas along with the Archipelago de las Perlas. You get the provinces of Herrera, Los Santos, Veraguas, Bocas Del Toro, and Chiriqui.
Sure, if that is fine with everyone else...
Whyatica
27-03-2007, 01:02
Um, I'm invading Panama with intent to either annex or put in a friendly government, so your split wouldn't work..
Candistan
27-03-2007, 01:06
Um, I'm invading Panama with intent to either annex or put in a friendly government, so your split wouldn't work..
Not necessarily...the territories named for him are all Loyalist Controlled, so if he wanted to move in and take them, he very well could. It might not stand well with the rebels, but it could work.
Whyatica
27-03-2007, 01:09
Yeah, he'd just run the risk of irritating me >>. I see what you mean, I just would be ICly very unhappy with the Central Americans, and I don't think they'd especially want that, you know?
Candistan
27-03-2007, 01:13
Yeah, he'd just run the risk of irritating me >>. I see what you mean, I just would be ICly very unhappy with the Central Americans, and I don't think they'd especially want that, you know?
Yeah I agree, but if Maldorians wants to help the Panamanians, I am in no position to tell him no. Oh, and when the US does invade Panama, have fun with the insurgency that's going to be waiting just around the corner. Do I smell another Cold War brewing here? :)
Whyatica
27-03-2007, 01:15
I'm RPing my American Army as a little more competent in the counter-insurgency' thing than the real USArmy. And yeah, that's what I'm going for! I've been arming all my capitalist friends like crazy to go and fight the commies, who you've been arming, I'm assuming.
Maldorians
27-03-2007, 01:15
Yeah, he'd just run the risk of irritating me >>. I see what you mean, I just would be ICly very unhappy with the Central Americans, and I don't think they'd especially want that, you know?
I...uhh...might let some prisoners out of Mexico...and uh....have them rampage in Texas.:D Fidel Castro!
Take it to the OCC Thread Thats what it's for.
Amazonian Beasts
27-03-2007, 01:22
I'm RPing my American Army as a little more competent in the counter-insurgency' thing than the real USArmy. And yeah, that's what I'm going for! I've been arming all my capitalist friends like crazy to go and fight the commies, who you've been arming, I'm assuming.
Uh, you have totally missed the majority of Africa (well, me and Animaria) in that regard...seeing how the UASR (Socialist) is in the region, and we coulc always go there for uniting a better Africa...seeing how me and Animaria have been pretty capitalist so far in this regard (my nation is brimming with it-lasseiz-faire ftw).
But anyway, my African conference plans are waiting on South Africa's return from OOC, so I'll leave that in the air.
Whyatica
27-03-2007, 01:26
OOC:Go to my diplomacy thread, then, and talk to one of my ambassadors about arming, just mention that you're threatened by the UASR and you'll be able to buy all the gunz you need!
Daehanjeiguk
27-03-2007, 03:02
Take it to the OCC Thread Thats what it's for.
ooc: ouch - two pages of ooc...
IC:
The Imperial Cabinet has released a new document, labeled - "Guardians of Civilization" - which serves as a public document open to all countries. In it, the document classifies countries as viewed by the Han Empire to be civilized or in some capacity extensively philanthropic in its policies. To be listed on the document, one must not be an expansive state, classified as:
(1) a state that does not actively engage in expanding its territory and authority;
(2) a state that does not oppress neighboring recognized states and/or impose policies that contradict the determinism of the other states' abilities to compose their own domestic policies;
(3) a state does endorses a state specifically for its tendencies to expand its territory and authority, or to oppress neighboring recognized states.
To be qualified as a "Guardian of Civilization", one must portray attributes of protectionist states, classified as:
(1) a state that does not actively engage in expanding its territory and authority;
(2) a state that protects the interests and domestic sovereignty of neighboring states from excessive obstruction by foreign states;
(3) a state that supports the defense of states being violated of their sovereignty without any purposeful intention of seeking any advantages, favors, or exploitation of the defending state.
Not being on this list is not automatically indicative of being not civilized; it rather represents insufficient evidence to support being placed on the list, and therefore if your state wishes to become a part of this list, you must follow the following guidelines:
(1) the state must be recognized as legitimate by the Han government;
(2) the state must endorse protectionist policy;
(3) the state must have outstanding political relations with the Han government and is friendly with other designated "Guardian" states.
The following states have been listed as "Guardians of Civilization" by the Imperial Cabinet:
The Orient
The Great Han Empire
Kiwiland Empire
United Arab Socialist Republics
Africa
Federation of Animaria
Europe
East European Union
America
N/A
Daehanjeiguk
27-03-2007, 03:11
Reply:
And leave the area to fall into Anarchy and Civil War? We think you don't understand the situation fully. If there was a civil war happening on your borders wouldn't you do something? I would think you would do the most prudent thing and stop all fighting between the groups and help them work together. To do that without military action would require weeks, possibly months of work. All the while they are still fighting each other. I am sorry to say, but that doesn't work with us.
Although we don't quite understand why the British are being so damn aggresive. We didn't order for Air-strikes to be done, nor did we blow up French Military Equipment. We have actually been stockpiling it so that when this is all over we can return it the proper authorities.
Also to answer your question on why they aren't invading us. Because they know quite well that they would suffer a defeat that would Rival the Franco-Prussian War of 19th Century.
Sincerely
Joerg Dresner
Reply
France is completely harmless, as long as it does not bring hostilities upon its neighbors. Ergo, there is no reason to intervene with military forces unless they do so to your country. There is no justified reason to say that the French government - however inept and incompetent it is - requires your military intervention. They neither asked for it nor endorsed it. The fact that French forces currently oppose your invasion of their territory further testifies to your illegitimate presence in their country.
As to why the French do not invade Germany - you ought to remember the lessons learned in your own two wars against them and their allies. The times have changed since then, but as they have had every reason not invade your territory, you still and remain without just cause in invading them.
The only change that will matter is your cessation of hostilities with the French government and their forces. If you stop your aggression, we can consider mediating any conflict that your governments may possess, as we have no interest in waging war for the petty mistakes of your foreign and defense policies. However, if you wish to revert to the ways of your predecessors, we will aptly force you to accept their sovereignty.
Candistan
27-03-2007, 03:20
SIC:
There have been reports of unrest in the western RSFSR for unknown reasons...tension is rising in the gov't about issues, and the military is beginning to rift.
Maldorians
27-03-2007, 03:21
The Central American Alliance is beginning to build up its military along its southeast border...
Cortellen
27-03-2007, 03:45
We, The Central American Alliance, would like an alliance, since we are almost neighboring countries...
What would this alliance consist of? Why don't you come down to our capital so we can discuss this farther in private?