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Global Union of Socialist Nations

"Gloriosus Et Liber"

Introduction

The purpose of this alliance is to offer nations following the Socialist way of life a chance to group up, and survive this shaky world of ours.

For too long have Capitalist Empires ruled this planet, crushing everyone who disagrees. That said, this Union was not designed to wage an all-out war, but to give us comrades a fighting chance. We do not seek to impose our views, but to let people see their truth and join us.

Economic Terms of Admittance

-To Qualify, your nation, must of course, adhere to Socialism, Communism, New Socialism, Halladi Socialism, Democratic Socialist, Social Democratic, etc. in any of its forms.
-A standard term to any alliance, but a valid one none the less, all alliance members must agree to fair trade with the rest of the alliance.
-Any tariffs or sanctions against another alliance member, or any entity within an alliance members nation must be lifted prior to joining the alliance (although you might be allowed to keep them if you present a good case).
-In the case of an emergency, all alliance members are expected (but not obliged) to transfer an amount of funds to any alliance member in need. And by emergency, we do not just mean military emergencies. Natural disasters count as well.

Political Terms of Admittance

-Any Nations with any sort of state-endorsed system of racism, sexism, or religious intolerance, slavery, human rights vilations, political right violations, dictatorships, etc. will not be allowed to join.
-Any potential member is asked not to have a state or state-endorsed religion for political reasons. The GUSN promotes secularism and free thinking, after all (again, you are not obliged).
-Added to the above, all GUSN member-states recognized that humans of every race, gender, and sexuality are all equal and deserve equal rights and opportunities within their nations.
-All Nations must have, to some extent, freedom of the press (total, at the very best).

Military Terms of Admittance

-The GUSN wishes it's members to allow construction of military bases of other members on their soil, as well as vice-versa. This will allow for quick deployment of our forces in any part of the world to deal with any crisis (you are not obliged, though the number of military forces will not exceed 5,000).
-If a Member-state releases a piece of Military technology for sale on the International Market, they are asked to provide some sort of discount.
-All Member-states are also asked (but not obliged) to get rid of their Nuclear arsenals (if you dont have Nuclear Weapons, then thumbs up! We will provide you with a defense system [non-nuclear]).
-Chemical and Biological weapons are not encouraged as part of member nation's armouries.
-Any nation found supporting, funding, or arming terrorist movements in other nations (You must present a case stating your reasons, then we might allow you to do so [as these "terrorists" will be considered "freedom fighters"]) will have a fair trial, which may, or may not result in the expulsion from the GUSN.
-We do not like to rush in to defend anyone who brings bad luck to himself by threatening, attacking or profusely insulting other nations (which might attack in retaliation), so, please, try to avoid picking fights. Of course, we will support you if you are unjustly attack yourself.

Security Council

The Governing body is the Security Council, made up of 5 Representatives of each Member-state. This council votes on issues relevant to the alliance, be they economic, military, or political. Once the alliance grows large enough, a "Permanent Member" roster of 5 Nations will be elected (whose votes will be worth the same as any of other member, nor will they hold any special privileges, except the following one). These nations have veto power against any proposal but, have to vote between themselves to choose wether to apply the Veto or not.
They can, however, be voted off by popular vote.

Off-Site Forums (http://z6.invisionfree.com/GUSN/index.php?act=idx)

Permanent Members:

The World Soviet Party
Kopparbergs
Hallad


Members:

H-Town Tejas
Wagdog
Krendakov
Ghost Tigers Rise
Cautetan
The Northern Baltic
Wanderjar
Zhyolatska
ICCD-Intracircumcordei
Czechalrus
Corbournne
British Londinium
Leocardia
Central Prestonia
Zintharia
Xenofungus


Associates (for those not too sure about joining but agreeing with the organization):

Aequatio
Macavao
Beddgelert

The Halladi Workers' Republic will join this alliance.

The GUSN is glad to accept such a distinguished nation like Hallad as a member, welcome!

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To the Global Union of Socialist Nations:

Despite Eurasia being a libertarian nation primarily based on a free-market economy, I would like to voice my support of the GUSN. The United Kingdom feels that all nations have a right to pursue whatever type of government they choose, as long as citizens of those nations are afforded their rights. Eurasia intends to stand by the GUSN, even in the light of ideological differences.

Signed,
Sir Phillip J. Sinclair
Sir Phillip Sinclair, EUE (Order of the Eurasian Empire)
Prime Minister of Eurasia

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To the Global Union of Socialist Nations:

Despite Eurasia being a libertarian nation primarily based on a free-market economy, I would like to voice my support of the GUSN. The United Kingdom feels that all nations have a right to pursue whatever type of government they choose, as long as citizens of those nations are afforded their rights. Eurasia intends to stand by the GUSN, even in the light of ideological differences.

Signed,
Sir Phillip J. Sinclair
Sir Phillip Sinclair, EUE (Order of the Eurasian Empire)
Prime Minister of Eurasia

OOC: I'll use my pwn Official Seal until we get an alliance flag, just giving everyone a heads up.

IC:
Official Diplomatic Communique

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To: British Londinium
From: GUSN Headquarters

We thank the Eurasian Empire for thier kind words and understanding of social and national rights. We hope the relations between this organization and your nation only get better with time.

Signed,
Alexander Nevskij, TWSP's Minister of Foreign Affairs.

OOC: World Soviet Party, TGs.

OOC: World Soviet Party, TGs.

OOC: Checked them.

C'mon people, there's plenty of space for new members! Apply today!

The People's Republic of H-Town Tejas is interested in joining this alliance.

Mikel Aritza, PRH-TT Foreign Minister

I'll vouch for him.

EDIT: Wow, Post moveage!

The People's Republic of H-Town Tejas is interested in joining this alliance.

Mikel Aritza, PRH-TT Foreign Minister

hi. i am interested in joining and i read the UCN thread but i am confused. why are we switching leaders, alliances, etc?

H-Town Tejas added to the Member's list.

The Republic will vouch for The People's Republic of H-Town Tejas.

hi. i am interested in joining and i read the UCN thread but i am confused. why are we switching leaders, alliances, etc?

Well, you see, most of the UCN members left, Tocrowkia was inactive, and the UCN charter didnt fit our needs.
So, we made a new organization, charter and stuff.

Bump?

The United Socialist States of Wagdog would be delighted to join this alliance of revolutionary states, as we've expressed prior regarding the late and lamented UCN. Note that although we list ourselves as a "Constitutional Dictatorship," this is only to describe the unlimited term of office our General Secretary holds barring a no-confidence vote in our Cabinet/"Revolutionary Command Council," which subjects them to the annual election as per other officials; and also the restriction of the General Secretaryship and Deputy General Secretaryship to Revolutionary Party members, as a sensible precaution against reactionary influences. Aside from this measure, we are a modern progressive democracy as explained in our submitted information (OOC: see main Factbook in sig.), and eagerly await word of your decision.

I say we let him in, and since no one is going to post till' tomorrow (or worse), I'll add him.

Welcome to the GUSN!

I say we let him in, and since no one is going to post till' tomorrow (or worse), I'll add him.

Welcome to the GUSN!
OOC: Thanks! It's not only polite, but also adds the appropriate changes to my sig too.;)

***LIVE GSRN FEED ON CSPAN-19***

Senate Subcommittee on Foreign Relations on the subject of new alliances

Senator Vicks: "COOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMUUUUUUUNNNNNISSSSSSSSM!"

*feed lost*

OOC: New CA enemy! To the secret submarine yacht!

***LIVE GSRN FEED ON CSPAN-19***

Senate Subcommittee on Foreign Relations on the subject of new alliances

Senator Vicks: "COOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMUUUUUUUNNNNNISSSSSSSSM!"

*feed lost*

OOC: New CA enemy! To the secret submarine yacht!

President Alexander turned off the TV.

"Wow, that guy really needs to get laid"

To the leaders of the Global Union of Socialist Nations,

I write on behalf of President Bynschev, leader of Bynzekistan, who is eager for our nation to join the Union. However, I believe I must inform you that while Bynzekistan is governed by democratic and socialist principles encouraging equality, freedom of speech, social diversity and acceptance, we cannot attest to being completely free of some trade and business interests, in order to support our nation's growth and development.

Will this hinder our acceptance into the Union?

Sincerely,

Linoc Duvaron
Bynzeki Minister for Foreign Affairs

To the leaders of the Global Union of Socialist Nations,

I write on behalf of President Bynschev, leader of Bynzekistan, who is eager for our nation to join the Union. However, I believe I must inform you that while Bynzekistan is governed by democratic and socialist principles encouraging equality, freedom of speech, social diversity and acceptance, we cannot attest to being completely free of some trade and business interests, in order to support our nation's growth and development.

Will this hinder our acceptance into the Union?

Sincerely,

Linoc Duvaron
Bynzeki Minister for Foreign Affairs

Official Diplomatic Communique

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To: Linoc Duvaron, Bynzeki Minister for Foreign Affairs
From: Alexander Nevskij, TWSP's Minister of Foreign Affairs

That sounds like the principles of what we like to call "New Socialism", basically, a combination of socialist and capitalist values, mantaining a free market (thought very controlled and regulated), but keeping the most important services (water, electricity, roads, etc.) under control of the State.
We'd feel honored to have you with us in the GUSN, so, welcome!

Signed,
Alexander Nevskij, TWSP's Minister of Foreign Affairs.

To: Alexander Nevskij, TWSP's Minister of Foreign Affairs
From: Kazimir Gorchakov, PFRK’s Chief Commissar
We in the People’s Federal Republic of Krendakov are interested in your alliance. However, we do wish to know about this ‘open trade’ idea. This turn of phrase has us baffled as we would usually associate it with free trade. Being a socialist alliance, this would clearly not be the case.
We await your reply.

New left wing alliance sparks world wide concern

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Tory leader David Sistilin addressing Parliament today

From the New Clanon City Times
Front Page

Dramatic events overnight with the formation of a new left wing alliance lead by the oppressive communist nation of The World Soviet Party. The World Soviet Party is a member of the Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations and was a member of the United Communist Nations until it collapsed amongst turmoil. There have been allegations that the TWSP supported members of the EVIL alliance block notably Kroando where coalition Sovereign League forces secured victory after months of fighting. TWSP was once a long time enemy of Clandonia Prime under the Lancer regime where the Clandonian government and the Nova Europan's nearly came to blows on a number of occasions.

The latest events have stirred up concern amongst His Majesty's government with fears of a new battle between capitalism and socialism. The new Global Union of Socialist Nations has been placed under scrutiny by political analysts because of its paradoxical and conflicting membership requirements. Clandonian government sources have high lighted concern of this new alliance, quoting from the alliances introduction "For too long have Capitalist Empires ruled this planet, crushing everyone who disagrees. That said, this Union was not designed to wage an all-out war, but to give us comrades a fighting chance. We do not seek to impose our views, but to let people see their truth and join us." Experts claim this is expressing that organisations like the Sovereign League and the Anti-Communist Treaty Organisation which as under this socialist view are evil war warmongering groups while this new group is advocating terrorism and revolution.

Speaking at his first Prime Ministers Question Time, Mr Sistilin hinted his concern and spoke of increased defence spending and support for governments around the world fighting off left wing rebellions and terrorists. Mr Sistilin said "The free world must stop these evil, vicious, despicable, red , communists who want nothing more than to spread the jackboot of the red flag upon the free nations of the world, stamping out creation and competition that is created by laissez faire capitalism." He was attacked by the left wing Labour opposition who welcomed the GUSN under new party leader Mr Stuart Lewis-Jones who is thought to a left wing hard-liner. The CNF has called for an immediate pre-emptive military strike on the GUSN to quote Conrad Zackin leader of the Nationalists, "Destroy the Bolshevik threat that inhabits this world!"

Political analysts at the Times question this new alliance, a military block under the guise of a socialist friendship? Insider sources reveal that the GUSN is preparing military bases in its member countries possibly signalling a predation to war. Retired General Sir. Peter Silverston who served as commander during the Nova Europan Troubles called the alliance "A bunch of disorganised lefty's who were hell bent on world domination." What is unknown is what the United Kingdom will do on this situation with His Majesty putting pressure on the government for a strong anti-communist rally. His Majesty is a fierce anti-communist, quoted when offered on a visit to left wing country, "Why would I want to go there, the bastards murdered half of my family!" The Clandonian position remains strong, anti-communist and supportive of laissez faire. The world awaits the views of other global powers from both ends of the political spectrum.

Not Very Official Message from the Commonwealth

OMG OMG TEH COMMIEZ R MAKEING TEH ALL1ANC3!!!!111eleventyone

~ An Unidentified Intern ~

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Subsequent, and Slightly More, Official Message from the Commonwealth

We welcome the Global Union of Socialist Nations to the world stage and express the hope that it does not pursue an aggressive foreign policy or otherwise intervene in Catalasian interests, as doing so would have very unfortunate consequences. While Catalasia may not agree with its economic policies, we see no reason to be particularly concerned if GUSN keeps its socialist practices to within its own borders.

We have also fired that intern.

~ Jael Chedrin ~
Chairman, Divisions Foreign Council

To: Alexander Nevskij, TWSP's Minister of Foreign Affairs
From: Kazimir Gorchakov, PFRK’s Chief Commissar
We in the People’s Federal Republic of Krendakov are interested in your alliance. However, we do wish to know about this ‘open trade’ idea. This turn of phrase has us baffled as we would usually associate it with free trade. Being a socialist alliance, this would clearly not be the case.
We await your reply.

Official Communique
The Halladi Workers' Republic

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I find that, while we have joined this alliance, such word usage has bothered me as well. Though it is our current belief that when it is said that states will partake in 'open trade,' the charter refers to 'fair trade,' the Republic feels this matter must be cleared up. We welcome few instances of 'free trade' due to its destructive nature, but the official trade doctrine of the Halladi Socialist Party and the Halladi Workers' Republic remains 'fair trade.' I would suggest this be the first ammendment to the charter, so as not to detract from the potential membership of the alliance.

In Solidarity,
Muhsin Qutuz
People's Commissar of Commerce

To: Alexander Nevskij, TWSP's Minister of Foreign Affairs
From: Kazimir Gorchakov, PFRK’s Chief Commissar
We in the People’s Federal Republic of Krendakov are interested in your alliance. However, we do wish to know about this ‘open trade’ idea. This turn of phrase has us baffled as we would usually associate it with free trade. Being a socialist alliance, this would clearly not be the case.
We await your reply.

We have fixed that typo, thanks for bringing it up.

Official Communique
The Halladi Workers' Republic

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I find that, while we have joined this alliance, such word usage has bothered me as well. Though it is our current belief that when it is said that states will partake in 'open trade,' the charter refers to 'fair trade,' the Republic feels this matter must be cleared up. We welcome few instances of 'free trade' due to its destructive nature, but the official trade doctrine of the Halladi Socialist Party and the Halladi Workers' Republic remains 'fair trade.' I would suggest this be the first ammendment to the charter, so as not to detract from the potential membership of the alliance.

In Solidarity,
Muhsin Qutuz
People's Commissar of Commerce

Fixt

Not Very Official Message from the Commonwealth

OMG OMG TEH COMMIEZ R MAKEING TEH ALL1ANC3!!!!111eleventyone

~ An Unidentified Intern ~

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Subsequent, and Slightly More, Official Message from the Commonwealth

We welcome the Global Union of Socialist Nations to the world stage and express the hope that it does not pursue an aggressive foreign policy or otherwise intervene in Catalasian interests, as doing so would have very unfortunate consequences. While Catalasia may not agree with its economic policies, we see no reason to be particularly concerned if GUSN keeps its socialist practices to within its own borders.

We have also fired that intern.

~ Jael Chedrin ~
Chairman, Divisions Foreign Council

Be calm, we do not seek conquest nor ideological supremacy, we just want the right to exist peacefully without getting WTFPWNED by bigger Empires.

OOC: Did you like my newspaper article?

OOC: Did you like my newspaper article?

OOC: Its very good, I tried writing a counter-one, but failed miserably, so I'll just write down and translate my article on New Socialism :D

We are very glad to see new members in this important alliance, and we want to give Hallad, Bynzekistan, H-Town Teijas and Wagdog a warm welcome to GUSN!
We also want to inform the alliance that we agree to the modification about fair trade in the charter.

The government (KSP, Kopparbergs' Socialist Party) has allocated money in the budget for foreign military bases within other GUSN countries. We are also ready to have other nations within GUSN establishing military bases within Kopparbergs. Nuclear weapons, as well as chemical and biological weapons, are banned in Kopparbergs, hence we don't want to have such WMD's within our borders.

Prime Minister
Walter Moltov
The Socialist Kingdom of Kopparbergs

one more thing. can anyone give me an in-depth history of UCN/GUSN please?

OOC: *sigh* Version 2.0, eh? Too lazy to write out an IC condemnation, but arrange the words "Bolshevik tide" "sniveling cowards" "lepers" "infidels" and "rest assured" and you'll get something that sounds a lot like it.

one more thing. can anyone give me an in-depth history of UCN/GUSN please?

Well, a couple of Socialists and I decided that we needed our own alliances to protect ourselves from attacks defined by their owners as "to promote freedom", thus, we created the UCN.
Shortly after, a group of nations, formed the ACTO (Anti-Communism Treaty Organization, or something of the likes), to oppose our "influence".
Long story short, the UCN died due to lack of activity and it's founder stopped updating, so we saw the need for a new and better alliance which better suited our needs. Thus, the GUSN was born.

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TO: GUSN
FROM: Roma Foreign Ministry

Well we follow a capitalist system and do not adhere to socialism or wish to apply to this alliance, we wish to say you have a friend in Italia. We do not respect the ACTO or CA though we are capitalistic, and we recognize the sovereignty of nations that adhere to communism. If you wish to sign a formal mutual pact, we shall dispatch a diplomat.

Good Day,
Signed,
Antonio Gordivici
Antonio Gordivici
Minister of Foreign Affairs

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TO: GUSN
FROM: Roma Foreign Ministry

Well we follow a capitalist system and do not adhere to socialism or wish to apply to this alliance, we wish to say you have a friend in Italia. We do not respect the ACTO or CA though we are capitalistic, and we recognize the sovereignty of nations that adhere to communism. If you wish to sign a formal mutual pact, we shall dispatch a diplomat.

Good Day,
Signed,
Antonio Gordivici
Antonio Gordivici
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Official Diplomatic Communique

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To: Antonio Gordivici, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Nuevo Italia
From: Alexander Nevskij, TWSP's Minister of Foreign Affairs.

Sure, why not? We will waiting for your diplomat.

Signed,
Alexander Nevskij, TWSP's Minister of Foreign Affairs.

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TO: TWSP
FROM: Roma Foreign Ministry

Briano Gordi is on his way in Airforce One Flight B12. (http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7214/nuevoitaliard2.png)

Good Day,
Signed,
Antonio Gordivici
Antonio Gordivici
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Official Communique
The Halladi Workers' Republic

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I encourage all members of the GUSN to observe the elections in Dukarbana (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518806) and to voice their support for the Popular Communist Party. We must do all we can -- legally -- to ensure a successful campaign for the Communists.

In Solidarity,
Talal Ghazi
People's Commissar of Diplomacy

We welcome the support from the Nuevo Italia, and we think that a mutual pact could be of great benefit for both NI and the GUSN.

Prime Minister
Walter Moltov
The Socialist Kingdom of Kopparbe

Bump

To to fine members of the GUSN:

Thought the People's Republic of Kronnik is a libertarian society based on free trade, it is refreshing to see a socialist commonwealth that actually appears to be in working order. On behalf of the people of Kronnik, I congratulate you on your outstanding work and sincerely hope the future only holds good things for you.
I feel it is in my duty, however, to emplore those of you who practice slavery to abandon this terrible practice. It confuses me that a group of fine nations such as yourselves could condone slavery in this day and age. I certainly hope that you will give this issue some serious thought.
Besides that, however, your union is doing a fine job. Keep up the good work.

Speaker of The House
James Morrison

To: James Morrison, PRK.

As far as I know, there's no member within GUSN who practice slavery as that's against the Political Terms of Admittance for GUSN. Here's an excerpt:

-Any Nations with any sort of state-endorsed system of racism, sexism, or religious intolerance, slavery, human rights violations, political right violations, dictatorships, etc. will not be allowed to join.

Otherwise, we thank you for your support.

Prime Minister
Walter Moltov
The Socialist Kingdom of Kopparbergs

To: Alexander Nevskij, TWSP's Minister of Foreign Affairs
From: Kazimir Gorchakov, PFRK’s Chief Commissar
Thank you for the clarifying the aims of the alliance. Due to our approval of the edited aims, we wish to apply for membership in this alliance. We feel that our membership would be a great advantage for both your alliance and to some extent, ourselves – as we often see difficulties helping to maintain the revolution.

Official Communique
The Halladi Workers' Republic

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I encourage all members of the GUSN to observe the elections in Dukarbana (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518806) and to voice their support for the Popular Communist Party. We must do all we can -- legally -- to ensure a successful campaign for the Communists.

In Solidarity,
Talal Ghazi
People's Commissar of Diplomacy

*Nudges* (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518869)

To: Alexander Nevskij, TWSP's Minister of Foreign Affairs
From: Kazimir Gorchakov, PFRK’s Chief Commissar
Thank you for the clarifying the aims of the alliance. Due to our approval of the edited aims, we wish to apply for membership in this alliance. We feel that our membership would be a great advantage for both your alliance and to some extent, ourselves – as we often see difficulties helping to maintain the revolution.

Your application is hereby accepted.

Official Announcment

The Democratic Empire, which has recently switched to Capitalistic Socialism from Authoritarian Capitalism, would like to join this great alliance as was recommended to us by The World Soviet Party, and as a sign of good will the Democratic Empire will donate thirty million Universal Standard Dollars monthly to the alliance treasury. Let it be known that it is no coincedence that ever since the Democratic Empire has switched to Capitalistic Socialism our economy has boomed.

The Socialist Commonwealth of Ghost Tigers Rise would like to join the GUSN. Considering that our parent nation, Liberated New Ireland, was a long-time member of the UCN, before its unfortunate collapse, it seems only natural and right that we join this alliance.

Signed,
Ciaran Lynch
Comissar of Foreign Relations
Ghost Tigers Rise

Official Announcment

The Democratic Empire, which has recently switched to Capitalistic Socialism from Authoritarian Capitalism, would like to join this great alliance as was recommended to us by The World Soviet Party, and as a sign of good will the Democratic Empire will donate thirty million Universal Standard Dollars monthly to the alliance treasury. Let it be known that it is no coincedence that ever since the Democratic Empire has switched to Capitalistic Socialism our economy has boomed.

We thank you for considering our advice, welcome to the GUSN!

The Socialist Commonwealth of Ghost Tigers Rise would like to join the GUSN. Considering that our parent nation, Liberated New Ireland, was a long-time member of the UCN, before its unfortunate collapse, it seems only natural and right that we join this alliance.

Signed,
Ciaran Lynch
Comissar of Foreign Relations
Ghost Tigers Rise

Your application is hereby accepted, welcome!

We, the Republic of New-Roubus wish to join this Union, we are Democratic Socialists.

Open Message from the Prime Minister of the Libertarian Federation

Once again the communist forces of the world have banded together under false pretenses with the end-goal of spreading oppression throughout the world. Once again these communist forces have attempted to form an alliance within the guise of "mutual defense," but it is plain to all to see that these communists wish to see nothing short of worldwide revolution and the deliberate genocide of personal freedoms.

Members of the world community that are free from the grip of communism, you must stand against this growing threat. While it is obvious that all communist nations and political blocs eventually crumble, as evidenced by the recent collapse of the Union of Communist Nations, it is apparent that these massive blocs of unorganised idiots can cause a large amount of harm in the time it takes them to eventually self destruct.

Capitalists nations of the world must resist all communist expansion, or the world could very well enter a new dark age.

[--Prime Minister David Wallace--]
--The Libertarian Federation of Avisron--]

In Response to Open Message from the Prime Minister of the Libertarian Federation:

Even though there are negatives in communism there are also positives, even though my government does not like harsh dictatorships. The communist fear is a silly idea because some capitalist nations also wan't to create a fully capitalist world too. My government remains neutral.:)

From the Rogernomican Federation (Rogernomics, Rogernomica and New Rogernomics):)

In Response to Open Message from the Prime Minister of the Libertarian Federation:

Even though there are negatives in communism there are also positives, even though my government does not like harsh dictatorships. The communist fear is a silly idea because some capitalist nations also wan't to create a fully capitalist world too. My government remains neutral.:)

From the Rogernomican Federation (Rogernomics, Rogernomica and New Rogernomics):)

Thast good to hear *Thumbs up*

So, yeah just to let you know about my application to this Alliance..

I say you're in, but lets wait for TWSP to respond.

So, yeah just to let you know about my application to this Alliance..
OOC: I think you can count on being a member, but TWSP has the final word on this.

Should we maybe have an official leader of the GUSN? I'm placing my vote on TWSP.

Official Statement

On the advice of Vontanas, the United Socialist States of Cautetan wishes to join this alliance, and pledge our full support to it. As listed in your requirements, we run a secular, socialist nation. Although at this moment we are still struggling with several internal issues prior to the fall of the old monarchy, we hope they will be dealt with within a few months, after which we shall make a valued contributor to the GUSN.

I say you're in, but lets wait for TWSP to respond.

Yeah, sure.

OOC: I think you can count on being a member, but TWSP has the final word on this.

Should we maybe have an official leader of the GUSN? I'm placing my vote on TWSP.

Why, thank you very much!

Official Statement

On the advice of Vontanas, the United Socialist States of Cautetan wishes to join this alliance, and pledge our full support to it. As listed in your requirements, we run a secular, socialist nation. Although at this moment we are still struggling with several internal issues prior to the fall of the old monarchy, we hope they will be dealt with within a few months, after which we shall make a valued contributor to the GUSN.

Sure thing.

The Democratic Empire voices it's support for TWSP as the leader of the GUSN. We also suggest that the alliance name be changed to the Global Alliance of Socialist Nations or GASN.

The Democratic Empire voices it's support for TWSP as the leader of the GUSN. We also suggest that the alliance name be changed to the Global Alliance of Socialist Nations or GASN.

OOC: It would be great if we went to war with the GASN over something like that...

OOC: TWSP is kindof a well-established member of teh Gassin'. >.>

And I would make a post saying Gassin's opinion on the Gussin' and my own nation's opinion... But I am one lazy sonofabitch.

OOC: TWSP is kindof a well-established member of teh Gassin'. >.>

OOC: I know (I was one of the GASN's original members, yanno...).

I think that would just add to the humour of the sitchyation.

EDIT: You know, the MT/NFT world needs another Kraven. I miss the Capitol Police...

OOC: TWSP is kindof a well-established member of teh Gassin'. >.>

And I would make a post saying Gassin's opinion on the Gussin' and my own nation's opinion... But I am one lazy sonofabitch.

*Hands Cravan Cookie* How's my validation coming? *Hugs*

OOC: I know (I was one of the GASN's original members, yanno...).

I think that would just add to the humour of the sitchyation.

EDIT: You know, the MT/NFT world needs another Kraven. I miss the Capitol Police...

OOC: Just noticed your sig. Welcome back, LNI. XD Was one of the originals? I believe you were the first of the originals.

NI: No idea, really. It all depends on the General Assembly's opinion of you.

OOC: Just noticed your sig. Welcome back, LNI. XD Was one of the originals? I believe you were the first of the originals.

OOC: I'm pretty sure Pythogria signed up right before me. (Remember him? :D)
Actually, that's what inspired my comment about Kraven. :)

The Democratic People´s Republic of Montegrande hereby applies to join the GUSN.

The Democratic Elective Monarchy of Maraque supports Montegrande's admittance into this alliance.

Representative to the Global Union [of] Socialist Nations

The Democratic People´s Republic of Montegrande hereby applies to join the GUSN.

The Democratic Empire voices it's support for Montegrande's entrance into the GUSN.

The Democratic People´s Republic of Montegrande hereby applies to join the GUSN.

You are hereby accepted.

The montegrandean people is glad to know we were admitted to the GUSN, as well as we have seen always as an important goal the colaboration between socialist states. The contradictions of capitalist system can only be superated by international cooperation and that view implies the Democratic People´s Republic of Montegrande will be active to work with the GUSN. Greetings, comrades

Ariadna Reyes, Montegrandean DPR Foreign Affairs Minister

BUMP for Off-Site Forums!

http://z6.invisionfree.com/GUSN/index.php?act=idx

"Vile. Pathetic. Re... no, I think pathetic works best." Said President raslin Gregov. "The Union of Communist Nations was an alliance of a few strong countries trying to support a number of smaller, weaker, less experienced ones. We got tired of this, and left these little states. So what do they do? They form their own union, with a fancy new name and the same old, sad members.

These nations work on failed principles. Or, I should say, try to. Their downfall won't take long. Chellis fully supports any attempt to bring this alliance to its knee's, so that they wont end up being an annoyance to the world at large. Support, of course, in words. We are busy with other matters.

We suggest the nations in GUSN to disband, and stay off of the international scene. You will need every bit of your concentration to keep your socialist and communist states from becoming anarchy. You are basically crying out to the world "We're pink, we think, and we're proud! Come occupy our nations!"

As we said. Pathetic."

The message was relayed to the world.

"Such useless banter and outrageous calls to disband are what are truly pathetic. In my eyes, and the eyes of the Republic, such demands are an act of war from the spies and leaders of the counter-revolution. They say that our system does not work, yet Hallad and other socialist nations have existed for some time now -- our economies booming, productivity unmatched, and solidarity firmly in place.

To my comrades of the GUSN, this statement by the President of Chellis is proof enough. They are shaking in their boots, comrades, calling for us to go away. They do this because they know that we have the power to destroy them, if only we stay together! With our nations united, it is pointless to fight us -- and the bourgeosie of their nations have very clearly begun to realise this.

The time of the bourgeoisie and capitalism is coming to an end, and we of the GUSN will lead the new world. We have already begun -- we have torn down the walls, and begun building our new foundation. Stay firm, comrades. Petty threats are nothing to worry yourselves over!"

Hasan Muhammad
Premier of the Republic
The Halladi Workers' Republic

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hallad.jpg

"I agree, to a point, with my Halladi counterpart. They are afraid that we will defeat them. They are also afraid that their precious corporations will die if they go to war against us. Furthermore, they are afraid that they will lose the war, and their governments replaced with the brilliance of socialism, and possibly even annexed! They are afraid!

However, the statement from the President of Chellis is not a declaration of war, but the Chelliseans decalaring they are afraid, and begging us to disband. We shall deny them this pleasure, and must bulster our ranks to show that we can destroy them, if we wanted to. I ask each of my fellow GUSN nations to find other nations, and recruit them. Let us show them that socialism is still proud and strong!"

-Prime Minister Judgehammer

[Open Message]

From: The Avisronite Department of State

The ramblings coming forth from the nations of Hallad and Vontanas resemble, at best, the babbling of two middle-school girls about their 'oh ma gawd not faire!" teachers.

The fact of the matter is, simply, that these communist and socialist systems require the entire citizenship to give up their individual wants and desires in order to fight for the wants and desires that someone in the government assigns them.

This system is obviously fundamentally flawed, and because of this, cannot last. The call from the honorable nation of Chellis, for the disbanding of the GUSN, is very bold; but we feel it is unneccessary. The GUSN will eventually crush itself, like all communist systems do.

[END]

[Open Message]

From: The Avisronite Department of State

The ramblings coming forth from the nations of Hallad and Vontanas resemble, at best, the babbling of two middle-school girls about their 'oh ma gawd not faire!" teachers.

The fact of the matter is, simply, that these communist and socialist systems require the entire citizenship to give up their individual wants and desires in order to fight for the wants and desires that someone in the government assigns them.

This system is obviously fundamentally flawed, and because of this, cannot last. The call from the honorable nation of Chellis, for the disbanding of the GUSN, is very bold; but we feel it is unneccessary. The GUSN will eventually crush itself, like all communist systems do.

[END]
OOC: Just my curiosity, but why don't you recognize NSEconomy or any of its competitors?:confused:
IC:
From the Office of General Secretary Carolinus Horridus
Very well. In reply, let it be said that we equally feel this statement is fundamentally flawed. If you look at the statistics widely and openly available for our nations, you'll see that many of us are, in fact, quite far from self-implosion. Yet again, you persist in perpetuating stereotypes which, while perhaps valid when applied to the cruder forms of Command Socialism, have absolutely no bearing on Market Socialist nations such as ours here in Wagdog.
The peoples of the GUSN do not seek a world war. Read our charter. However, can we say the same for certain arch-reactionaries out there among the otherwise acceptable bourgeois nations? For those who insist on denying the fact that the people continue to stand for their full rights;
not just to buy or sell or own, but also not to be bought or sold or owned by others in whatever insidious form; nor margialized and persecuted for what they cannot change about their beliefs, their capabilities, and often even their very genes in the case of the fascists out there? The question deserves asking indeed; and we of the GUSN politely await the answer.

[OOC: NStracker and NSeconomy as well as the Sunset calculator are fundementally flawed in a very big way, it ignores how people RP their nation.

A player who RPs a nation as a communist dictatorship (or a military dictatorship) can ignore all the problems associated with a state run, or poorly run economy by simply answering issues right and then pointing at their calculator page when confronted about them (as Wagdog just did).

It can also work the other way, a person who RPs out there economy very well (such as pacitalia or hamptonshire) could not be that great at answering issues and tank their NStracker/economy page. This would lead to people pointing at their economy page and going 'lolz ur economy sux' despite all the effort to RP it.

Also, people may want to RP with a different tax rate then their NS page, which will definately affect their GDP and GDP/C. Also, it doesn't take into account interest rates, RPed happenings, and economic policy that's RPed.

That and it allows nations to have high tax rates and poor all of their government budget into defense and stat wank a superior army (hey, I have a 75 trillion defence budget, my army pwns yours) AND a superior economy (My economy pwns yours with it's 190 trillion GDP despite a 50% income tax rate and putting 50% of that into defense and having an army with 5% of my population)

As you can see, the problems are numerous.]

The Democratic People´s Republic of Montegrande agrees with our comrades of Hallad. The fact is, the liberal and neoliberal systems have never worked in the so called "third world" mainly because that systems in our countries just represent a more eficient type of feudalism, a type of feudalism we have left just because a long term revolution, which has assured socialism and solidarity in Montegrande before joining international alliances like this one. The fact is what Chellis, Avisron and the other reactionaries pretend, is believe that socialism has failled to end the reign of the burgoisie and that is far from being true, mainly because liberal democracy without the active involvement of collective groups, like soviets, isn´t freedom at all: in fact, it is mostly a bigger cage for the humanity. This incline us, comrades, to encourage with even more strength the project of socialism, instead of disbanding this alliance. With the work of the international proletariat, the burgoisie will fall at last, and the structures of capitalism will be replaced at first by the hegemony of the proletariat, to build at long term a sociaty without classes. Greetings, comrades

Arturo Moncada, President of the Montegrandean Democratic People´s Republic

The United Socialist States of the Northern Baltic will join and support this union.

The United Socialist States of the Northern Baltic will join and support this union.

Sure thing, added.

OOC: Just as a reminder, we have a forum here: http://z6.invisionfree.com/GUSN/index.php?act=idx

I encourage all members to join, and non-members if you wish (we have a section for the likes of you!). TWSP, if you could add that link to the first post in this thread, I'll give you a donut and a barrel of oil.

OOC: Just as a reminder, we have a forum here: http://z6.invisionfree.com/GUSN/index.php?act=idx

I encourage all members to join, and non-members if you wish (we have a section for the likes of you!). TWSP, if you could add that link to the first post in this thread, I'll give you a donut and a barrel of oil.

Ahem, I added that link to the first page.

Last night :p

[OOC: NStracker and NSeconomy as well as the Sunset calculator are fundementally flawed in a very big way, it ignores how people RP their nation.

A player who RPs a nation as a communist dictatorship (or a military dictatorship) can ignore all the problems associated with a state run, or poorly run economy by simply answering issues right and then pointing at their calculator page when confronted about them (as Wagdog just did).

It can also work the other way, a person who RPs out there economy very well (such as pacitalia or hamptonshire) could not be that great at answering issues and tank their NStracker/economy page. This would lead to people pointing at their economy page and going 'lolz ur economy sux' despite all the effort to RP it.

Also, people may want to RP with a different tax rate then their NS page, which will definately affect their GDP and GDP/C. Also, it doesn't take into account interest rates, RPed happenings, and economic policy that's RPed.

That and it allows nations to have high tax rates and poor all of their government budget into defense and stat wank a superior army (hey, I have a 75 trillion defence budget, my army pwns yours) AND a superior economy (My economy pwns yours with it's 190 trillion GDP despite a 50% income tax rate and putting 50% of that into defense and having an army with 5% of my population)

As you can see, the problems are numerous.]
OOC: Figured as much.:rolleyes: Not denying your stats, however you play them or no; just pointing out to Avisron that my country is hardly a hole in the ground when it comes to the usual metrics, since the stereotyping was getting pretty blatant (in general). And yes, that applies in my case at least b/c I RP pretty closely to my issue answers, figuring that I might as well play the economy I've got 'for richer or poorer,' as they say. I answer issues in such a way as they can reflect my RP policy IC and beliefs OOC as best as possible, since Wagdog is my main nation in every sense of the phrase. In fact, reading and answering the issues actually inspired the sort of 'Socialism' I have now after tanking for a while as the "State-Owned Compulsory Democracy" I tried at first.
And here's why. My economy's main claim to 'Socialist' status nowadays is that State industries gain a corporate tax break of some 5-20% per year, to leech entrepeneurs away from a fully-taxed (and no more) private sector. But, it's a tax break scaled according to annual profit (perhaps directly so soon), forcing these State entrepeneurs to stay competitive in the same fair market as the private ones (various privatization issues with the middle course chosen), or lose their privileges when "cast into the marketplace" after State divestiture of it's holdings in their failed company; probably to buy out a successful private competitor as the new State concern soon afterward. Simultaneously, union membership gives 5-20% wage benefits to both white and blue collar workers (my translation of at least two issues) in my country, depending on how close the union is to the ruling Revolutionary (read: Communist) Party; unaffiliated unions or those with the Social Democrats and Greens get 5% bonuses, variant communists such as the Stalinists/"Noble Revolutionaries" and Maoists/"People's Revolutionaries" get a 10% bonus for their affiliated workers, and orthodox Leninists/"Revolutionaries" get the full 20% perk for their unions; as is only a fitting gift from the ruling party to its honest and hardworking supporters.
Hence, IMO my NSTracker is (or should be) a fairly accurate aid for judging my economic performance, since I use issues I like as prompts for my RP policy. Others' mileage may vary, but I'm not a professional economist and, most importantly, will not pretend I am either IC or OOC. Hence, I accept all the third-party aids I can get and find useful (unlike most of the military calcs, except perhaps in terms of military economics and simple manpower breakdowns).

"It would appear the speakers of Hallad and Vonnetas are incapable of doing simple internet searches. There are no bourgeoise in Chellis, nor corporations of the capitalist kind. Chellis is a true communist state, but alliances like the dead UCN, and now the GUSN, sully the word communism. Hence, we consider ourselves an Altruisia, a new, bold type of economy that rejects old thinking.

Afraid? No. Worried is more applicable. Worried that this GUSN will annoy the big boys of the international scene, will make us have to divert our attention from more important manners to show you your places. We hate annoyances.

That said, a GUSN invasion of Chellis would be laughable at best. If you believe chellis has declared war upon you, then act upon it, or be seen as the sniveling dogs you are, all talk but no action."

"It is all too clear that the bourgeosie of Chellis has merely re-emerged in the form of bureaucratic collectivism and the despicable stalinist ideology. Chellis's anti-revisionist stand point will clearly lead to their own demise by those who would be our own enemies. Never the less, I would relish in the day that Chellis becomes a capitalist liberal democracy, rather than the totalitarian, state-capitalist dictatorship it is now. In our own sweet time, in our own sweet way, Hallad and our allies in the GUSN will come out victorious."

Hasan Muhammad
Premier of the Republic
The Halladi Workers' Republic

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hallad.jpg

"It is all too clear that the bourgeosie of Chellis has merely re-emerged in the form of bureaucratic collectivism and the despicable stalinist ideology. Chellis's anti-revisionist stand point will clearly lead to their own demise by those who would be our own enemies. Never the less, I would relish in the day that Chellis becomes a capitalist liberal democracy, rather than the totalitarian, state-capitalist dictatorship it is now. In our own sweet time, in our own sweet way, Hallad and our allies in the GUSN will come out victorious."

Hasan Muhammad
Premier of the Republic
The Halladi Workers' Republic

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hallad.jpg

"Come out victorious? In what, exactly? The GUSN looks to be the same as the UCN. Talk a lot, never do anything, and think happy thoughts. All the GUSN will do is gain a lot of enemies, be stuck between doing something and getting attacked, or doing nothing at all. It will fail quickly and none shall shed a tear."

Chellis will, from now on, refrain from making snide comments about GUSN.

"If you dont have anything good to say, then dont say anything at all"

Chellis will, from now on, refrain from making snide comments about GUSN.

"If you dont have anything good to say, then dont say anything at all"

HA! That's funny, but it's right. Can't be nice then leave the person alone. ~ The Count

HA! That's funny, but it's right. Can't be nice then leave the person alone. ~ The Count

OOC: YOu know, I was tempted to make "Yo momma" jokes about the Count, of course, it was almost 3am and I was dead tired, but I did manage to make one :D

The People's Republic of South Adrea will join this alliance for the defence and advancement of socialism.

OOC: YOu know, I was tempted to make "Yo momma" jokes about the Count, of course, it was almost 3am and I was dead tired, but I did manage to make one :D

OOC: He would have just laughed at it. He's not a little kid anymore. He's the oldest person on the Earth! Well whatever, carry on.

Salutations,

The People’s Republic of Qalustan would be honoured to join this honourable alliance. We consider the propagation of socialism to be one of our most important goals. My husband, President Zanwar Qal, and his government are in complete agreement with your organization, and so on behalf of our nation I would like to request admission.

I Am Forever Your Humble And Honoured Servant,

Mirgu Zbhosli-Qal, Zase-bhokeh Qalustan-duor
(Mirgway Zboshli-Qal, First Lady of Qalustan)

Official Diplomatic Communique

The United Socialist States of Labhekistan wishes to join this union and we are willing to pledge our allegience to this organization as a whole.

Mikhail Grozny
Minister of External Affairs

The People's Republic of South Adrea will join this alliance for the defence and advancement of socialism.

You are hereby accepted.

OOC: Try and join the off-site forums if you can.

Salutations,

The People’s Republic of Qalustan would be honoured to join this honourable alliance. We consider the propagation of socialism to be one of our most important goals. My husband, President Zanwar Qal, and his government are in complete agreement with your organization, and so on behalf of our nation I would like to request admission.

I Am Forever Your Humble And Honoured Servant,

Mirgu Zbhosli-Qal, Zase-bhokeh Qalustan-duor
(Mirgway Zboshli-Qal, First Lady of Qalustan)

You are hereby accepted.

OOC: Try and join the offsite forums if you can.

Official Diplomatic Communique

The United Socialist States of Labhekistan wishes to join this union and we are willing to pledge our allegience to this organization as a whole.

Mikhail Grozny
Minister of External Affairs

You are hereby accepted.

OOC: Try and join the offsite forums if you can.

From: The Office of the Secretary General, People's Republic of South Adrea.

The People's Republic would like to pledge all the support it can to strengthen it's fellows in this great socialist alliance.

On the subject of military forces the PR requests that the amount of non-Adrean military forces within our nations boundary be kept to the relatively low in number so as to suplement our small armed forces rather than overshadow it. Aside to this the PR offers two battlegroups to aid in safe guarding of it's comrades and pledges it's commitment to protecting Socialism rather than using aggresive expeditionary tactics to export it.

Heavily Encrypted Official Diplomatic Telegram:
To: GUSN Nations
From: Democratic Empire of Vantanas
Subject: Two Candles

Following the creation of this great and honourable Union, two bright candles of Socialism have popped up, and threaten to be extinguished.

The first is in Eurasia, were a Communist Dictatorship tried to form, and is being barreled into submission by the Capitalist nations of NationStates. It is a small flame in a hurricane, lost.

However, on the Island of Cyprus in Nuevo Italia the candle burns brightly. The full force of the Capitalist armies have yet to extinguish it here. The Democratic Empire has attempted to purchase the Island of Cyprus, however Nuevo Italia is unwilling to sell. This island is also consumed by a Communist Dictatorship, however it would be easy to establish a puppet government with a more proper form of Socialism. So, the issue, do we add our might to the candle of Cyprus?

Heavily Encrypted Official Diplomatic Telegram:
To: GUSN Nations
From: Democratic Empire of Vantanas
Subject: Two Candles

Following the creation of this great and honourable Union, two bright candles of Socialism have popped up, and threaten to be extinguished.

The first is in Eurasia, were a Communist Dictatorship tried to form, and is being barreled into submission by the Capitalist nations of NationStates. It is a small flame in a hurricane, lost.

However, on the Island of Cyprus in Nuevo Italia the candle burns brightly. The full force of the Capitalist armies have yet to extinguish it here. The Democratic Empire has attempted to purchase the Island of Cyprus, however Nuevo Italia is unwilling to sell. This island is also consumed by a Communist Dictatorship, however it would be easy to establish a puppet government with a more proper form of Socialism. So, the issue, do we add our might to the candle of Cyprus?

Ahem, just for the record, my nation wont aupport ANY form of dictatorship, be it communist or capitalist.
Besides, IMO they are just terrorists (they blew up a communal hospital, c'mon!).

OOC: You should bring that up on the forum. :P

Ahem, just for the record, my nation wont aupport ANY form of dictatorship, be it communist or capitalist.
Besides, IMO they are just terrorists (they blew up a communal hospital, c'mon!).

Which is why we mentioned forming the government we wanted. Besides, your terrorist is my freedom fighter.:D

The Popular Assembly Network of Elizibethania wishes to establish relationships with her fellow socialist and communist comrades by applying to join this alliance. We believe that this alliance will give us more security against our barbaric Capitalist neighbors.

Which is why we mentioned forming the government we wanted. Besides, your terrorist is my freedom fighter.:D

But, why support them if you are going to kill them afterwards?

As well as the eurasian communists seem to be excesively brutal, the cypriot rebels are just trying to break the chains of imperialist exploitation. The Democratic People´s Republic of Montegrande will support the cypriot rebellion, firstly with advice to calm up their communist forms, and then, if the capitalist continue to attack, even if supported by any member of the GUSN, are sustained, we will send troops to defend the revolution in Cyprus.

OOC: British Londinium asked me to play the part of his rebels. The bloodthirsty leader has been executed and a much more moderate

Request for Aid

Comrades, I come to you in a time of need. Our noble struggle for a socialist utopia has been corrupted by our leaders. But just as the chaff is burned and the wheat treasured, so too did we destroy the evil in our midst. No revolution, no matter great, can succeed without help. Right now, comrades, we are in dire straights. I implore you all: break the blockade around the Eurasian Isles so that we may be replenished. We are being bled dry, and without help, we will surely fail.

-Nikifor Yaromir

OOC: British Londinium asked me to play the part of his rebels. The bloodthirsty leader has been executed and a much more moderate

Request for Aid

Comrades, I come to you in a time of need. Our noble struggle for a socialist utopia has been corrupted by our leaders. But just as the chaff is burned and the wheat treasured, so too did we destroy the evil in our midst. No revolution, no matter great, can succeed without help. Right now, comrades, we are in dire straights. I implore you all: break the blockade around the Eurasian Isles so that we may be replenished. We are being bled dry, and without help, we will surely fail.

-Nikifor Yaromir

OOC: Did you have to do that right now? I already have troops there. I think I can pull them off, but it'd make me look bad.

Oh well, I guess I'll leave my guys for a while, checking out the situation to see if the movement is really moderate. If it is, then I'll provide support, if it isnt, then I shall keep arresting (yes, not killing), the psycho terrorists.

OOC: I've been busy all day! Its definatly moderating out, just gotta get the actual coup post up.

The Popular Assembly Network of Elizibethania wishes to establish relationships with her fellow socialist and communist comrades by applying to join this alliance. We believe that this alliance will give us more security against our barbaric Capitalist neighbors.

Think I missed this one, sorry for the delay.

What do you say guys, aye or nay?

Think I missed this one, sorry for the delay.

What do you say guys, aye or nay?

Aye.

The Popular Assembly Network of Elizibethania wishes to establish relationships with her fellow socialist and communist comrades by applying to join this alliance. We believe that this alliance will give us more security against our barbaric Capitalist neighbors.

Think I missed this one, sorry for the delay.

What do you say guys, aye or nay?
Aye, although I'd ideally prefer some more concrete explanation than simply 'barbaric' from Elizibethania regarding her neighbors. It has no bearing on my actual vote, but would be a good idea so that we all know whom we'd be dealing with in the worst-case scenario.

Think I missed this one, sorry for the delay.

What do you say guys, aye or nay?
Sure, why not. Aye.

*A hand written letter addressed to the leaders in the GUSN arrives. The letter is written in the Cyrillic alphabet, in what is clearly Russian*

Greetings Komrades,
I am a representative of the Socialist movement in Zhyolatska. You may ask, What is Zhyolatska? Indeed this a question that has no shame in it's asking. We are a tiny country in the eastern bloc, or more correctly, what used to be it. We have land ownings in the black sea and stretch into the East European plains, though compared to many our country is small. We have few cities, and a small oppressed population.

You may ask why you have not heard of the socialist Zhyolatska, It is to our great shame that we are a capitalist country, and an even greater shame that there is such rampant oppression here. After the fall of the Great Union, our country was overcome in a coup aided by the US. A capitalist was made president, and he has seen fit to install a "free market system". It is not free.

As it stands the rich live lives of luxury feeding off of their gold mines, corporations, oil reserves, and private property estates, and make up a minority population. The majority are poor, and live in massive shantytowns or slums. so many live in shanty towns because they are no longer allotted housing, and now go homeless. To survive they must work 15 hour work days in the Bourgeoisie houses of oppression, that is to say the capitalist work place. conditions are far worse for those who are ethnic turks, as they may even be lynched by the ever present police.

I myself admit to being born of significant background, however it is by choice I live the bohemian lifestyle, and my money goes to the furthering of Our glorious cause. I feed who I can, pay for publishing, buy apartments to "rent out" without charging rent, I try to help those in need become equal. What is it that motivates me to socialism over capitalism? It is perhaps a compassion for humanity, but it is mostly the works of Bakunin. I consider this man a wise ideologist, and it is a classless society I wish to create for my people. Already we have significant presence in three of the poorer districts, Ilichivisk, Solmentya, and Guzhin. We work hard to encourage the revolution, and have begun to become a major political party in our tiny country, though the capitalists will prevent us from running in the elections.

Please I appeal to you as fellow komrades, fellow free men, fellow thinkers, fellow revolutionaries, allow us to join you. allow us to become recognized as a sovereign nation, so that we may do more than break off from Zhyolatska, so that we may become Zhyolatska. We ask you to support us in the revolution, to aid us in overthrowing the US Supported dictator, to help establish liberty and equality.

After all, it is as Mikhail said; When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called "the People's Stick."

I await a reply,
Ilyusha Verkhotsov

Interesting, do you have a map of your country (seeing as we may see fit to "invade" and depose the actual leaders)?

OOC: wow, didn't think about that kind of help, in truth I was thinking about recognition as an independent Socialist enclave, to motivate people into an uprising. But this is better I suppose[or depose as it were]

Maps of Zhyolatska ((note, I had to use territory in the Ukraine, I Hope that's acceptable. This is an alternate earth right?))

Map of Europe, with The World Soviet Party in yellow[using your map], Zhyolatska in Black
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/quantumf8/eubase4bw.jpg

Map of the northern black sea, Grey is territory given to the State of Ukraine after 1992, black is territory given to Zhyolatska
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/quantumf8/Up-mapterritory.png

Map of Zhyolatska with i's capitol Vorisvotkya [note, the reason for the number of cities is due to it's being an old territory, as well as Russian conquest throughout the ages]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/quantumf8/Up-map.png

I hereby propose the creation of:

The Socialist Department for Assorted Insults and Disrespects.

Basically, it'll be an official signature we can use for insulting letters, all inspired by this post:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12400510&postcount=190

Snip

Im using the Nova Europa map (which is mostly filled anyways), so Im not that close to you on geographical terms.

My old friends in the World Soviet Party, I am most pleased to see this new alliance form. I am almost insulted however, that I was not informed of its formation. We request entry. Thank you.


Your eternal ally


~Lord Christoph Baker

My old friends in the World Soviet Party, I am most pleased to see this new alliance form. I am almost insulted however, that I was not informed of its formation. We request entry. Thank you.


Your eternal ally


~Lord Christoph Baker

OOC: Dude! You are back long time no see!

Whats up?

IC:

We are please to accept you in this alliance.

My old friends in the World Soviet Party, I am most pleased to see this new alliance form. I am almost insulted however, that I was not informed of its formation. We request entry. Thank you.


Your eternal ally


~Lord Christoph Baker
OOC: Hey Wanderjar, really good to have you with us here in the GUSN!

Please join us in the off-site forum (url in the first post).

OOC: Dude! You are back long time no see!

Whats up?

IC:

We are please to accept you in this alliance.

OOC: :D

@Kopparbergs: THanks man! I will.

*coughstill wondering about whether or not he's considered for membership* >_>))

*coughstill wondering about whether or not he's considered for membership* >_>))

Oh, sorry *adds*

No worries, I've just been wondering what was happening, whether or not I was admitted, cool that I was! thanks!))

Official Declaration From the Revolutionary Nationalist Party
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While we are still in revolution, the RNP wishes to join such an alliance. We however must warn you we are more Zapatistas then socialists, however if you read our proclamations, we're sure we will fit right in.

We will be a government who shall become invisable within our borders, asking almost nothing of our people, but shall have the strength of a a totalitarian nation outside our borders. We are a government not just for workers and farmers, but warriors! Long live the revolution!

---The Barber, Commander and Leader of the Revolutionary Nationalist Party and Zambistan National Capitalism Front
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East Lithuania would like to join

ICCD is willing to join this organization; however, ICCD does actively employ chemical weapons, and to a lesser extent biological weapons, as area kill weapons, for tactical effect. ICCD does not employ WMD forms of chemical or biological weapons for indeterminant general use. Use of all Dian weapons are reserved for legitimate military targets. ICCD does have a socialist multispectrum government. To explain ICCD's socialist system in breif: ICCD has state sanctioned 'major' corporations, that are administered by a state appointed industry council of all major administrators of a specific industry. They set their own policies as to comply with state demands on production. State property is transmitted between these companies at no cost, but are tracked on a marxian value ratio scale, to determine the overall net value of production practices by the companies. Non Major industries may be 'quotaed' that is their goods may be siphoned by the state if there is a valid reason for expropriation. Private companies can voluntarily participate in the quota program, or not. If they do then on an annual basis they are given credits for any items they send to the quota system based on their ratioed value. They can then depending on their stake take a portion of excess state goods not utilized at the end of the year, in a favourable manner. Companies that do not subscribe but are still utilized, are also given the trade value, and they may also file injuries claims with the courts for special remedy. Private companies are able to exist as long as they are not 'enshrined in the state' - equivicable to nationalization. At that time the highest profile individuals are offered a seat on the specific Industries Council , that administers the whole of that specific industry. They then have equal voice for that industry, and still oversee their specific facility or worksite. Specific conditions exist which may appoint someone new, but that person should unless there be no other qualified person, come from that site. The role is a lifetime role. but it can be resigned. Board members receive a state salary and an operations bonus depending on their contrabution to the trade ratio. Infrastructure Services administers the state companies. So all State Industries are run with state employees. When a privatization occurs, former employees may be retrained during the conversion process, to make sure they qualify as state employees, including 1 year of Emergency Services Training. Private companies may exist in non 'vital' areas and guildes exist that organize and standardize those sectors. All property however is 'state owned' and the courts determine best use of property. In general the state does not interfere with free exchange of property, but trade of property that has a 'profit' including sales, have a 20% greed tax applied to the benefiting party. (usually the seller) thus it also counts as a capital gains tax (on the buyer, if applicable). Property exchanges that are 'real property' such as land, require the courts to approve the transfer, with reasonable use conditions being met (zoning and implementation and liscensing requirements if existing being met). Chattel and movable property may be traded without court approval but property with a realizable value that is non perisable in nature must be registered with the Tresury Office. If it is not registered then it is not legally the new owners property. Permishable goods may be registered but need not be. If they are not registered then the transfer isn't legally recognized. There are no fees for registrations for citizens. Registrations for non citizens require purchasing a Dian Foreign Leger Account, which is required for anyone moving property into our out of ICCD, this is included in the price of Dian Travel VISA's. All property that is 'owned' must be registered prior to entry, and all items must be declared. The foreign leger account can be tracted at any Dian Financial Services Machine via card, or placed in the dian handheld which includes a smart card reader that can call up information on the card, as it is stored on the card. The central database also has it's own version of the data. Citizens have a basic social welfare allowance, and are gaurentied housing and basic necesities such as food water, and reasonable access to personal ammenities such as clothing, and household supplies. Depending on their work, they either receive a state income, which varies depending on the job, based upon employment factors scaling, or they receive a private income. All private incomes are taxed 20%. State and Social Welfare incomes are not taxed. Individuals can gain, different types of credits based upon their activities, such as social credits, which can be earned or won via special citizens lotteries, of various types. State employees are gaurentied wages, and resources may be expropriate as required to enable state programs to run, that being said it is socialist in way that the public structures are the primary focus of the state, and private institutions may be liquidated to meet state requirements. Economically it appears that ICCD is very much a socialist state. There are other basic benefits of citizenship. Of course their are duties such as mandatory service requirements based on age. Not to go deeply into detail but it is hoped ICCD does qualify as a socialist state for your purposes.
government is multilayered, rest assured ICCD is not a dictatorship, it has many checks and balances in the administrative function to insure a broad spectrum agreement in the government and in popular opinion to allow effective responsible popular government. As a civil institution democracy is assured.

Of course we can understand due to our use of chemical and biological weapons tactically that we do not meet your guidelines. Our
If this can be overlooked then we look forward to our relationship in this organization.

Sten Battengreu,
Imperial External Affairs Liason
Logothe's Office, ICCD


(ooc: see fact book for more information on ICCD, there have been a few changes in the administration)

OOC: You are in coz' you were an UCN member, but dude, paragraphs!

IC: You are hereby added.

Aye, although I'd ideally prefer some more concrete explanation than simply 'barbaric' from Elizibethania regarding her neighbors. It has no bearing on my actual vote, but would be a good idea so that we all know whom we'd be dealing with in the worst-case scenario.

Our neighbor is the overly-authoritarian "Federalist Republic" of Serveria. It has, on more than one occasion, supported foreign interventions in sovereign nations that offer Serveria with more raw materials to fuel their oppressive economic structure. Because we fear an attack upon us when Serveria gets the chance to do so, we believe that now is the time to develop and cultivate links with this alliance in order to help ensure our protection.

To: the GUSN


The United Island States of AHSCA only recently delcared it's indpendence, thus we are still very small and igsignificant. AHSCA has no forms of modern capitalisim or coopreate markets, and we don't desire them for fear of our people being exploited. We have only a small united milita and carry no WMD's. No offical state religion is recognized, as we know the persecution that comes with being of a certian religion. People are free to practice what religion they desire: Christian, Catholic, Buddhist, Tao, Shinto you name it it's fine (Unless it's a threat to public safety) I guess you should know we were under protector status but that status was violated by four others who invaded us. Now we are breaking free. Regarding a military base we do ask you find another place to build. Our islands are quite small and we're worried what kind of enviromental effects building a major base on our islands. We hope you will consider us, thank you.

OOC: I'm I in or what?

OOC: I'm I in or what?

OOC: Same here?!!?

Our neighbor is the overly-authoritarian "Federalist Republic" of Serveria. It has, on more than one occasion, supported foreign interventions in sovereign nations that offer Serveria with more raw materials to fuel their oppressive economic structure. Because we fear an attack upon us when Serveria gets the chance to do so, we believe that now is the time to develop and cultivate links with this alliance in order to help ensure our protection.
Ah. The same reason we joined the GUSN then?;) No problem, although Wagdog's a bit busy with Zanski and New Nicksyllvania at the moment so military support from us, although sincere, might be spotty at times due to our own defense needs at the moment.

OOC: I'm I in or what?

OOC: Same here?!!?

Sorry guys, must have missed you.

Adding now.

Hooray! Any GUSN nations are welcome to help in my revolution if they would like. Expect alot from me comrades!

Sure, I can supply you with weapons, what do you need (I might stop this support if the revolution turns out to be just sponsoring a new dictator, even if its a communist one)?

Oh, and remember to try and join the off-site forums

Thank you for letting our nation into this glorious alliance. If ever help is needed, we will gladly lend our nation's brilliant army to help.

Sure, I can supply you with weapons, what do you need (I might stop this support if the revolution turns out to be just sponsoring a new dictator, even if its a communist one)?

Oh, and remember to try and join the off-site forums

No dictators! In fact, we will have self governing communities! It's all covered in my openeing post! Send anything you can spare!

No dictators! In fact, we will have self governing communities! It's all covered in my openeing post! Send anything you can spare!

Okay, I'll prepare a package and post it later.

/Snip

OOC: The Islands kanami says that make up this "nation" is actually under foreign control, either its IH, Stevid or Red tide 2, if not all 3, who control them currently. Any "milita" would have been destroyed when the islands were invaded (there was genocide occurring at the time, peace keepers moved in etc) and building a base would be impossible as you would actually be invading land which is under foreign control.

Anyway, this hasn't been RPed properly so just letting you know, any military imports etc would be spotted and it would lead to major hastle, it would lead to all the "milita" dying for about...0 deaths on the foreigners side. Not only that, but its just 3nations, not 4 who invaded the islands(i was neutral, perhaps Kanami should check that out, it was because of him the RP happened in th4e first place).

Thanks and sorry for any inconvenience, HD2

Would any of you be interested in joining the Union of Militaristic and Industrious Nations. I am hoping to get several Socialists in the group. Capitalists annoy me.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520775

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War. Now.

Agreed, I'll try a diplomatic approach first (send us the commies, or face the consequences, basically).

He wants military equipment. Great. Should we give him the military equipment in boxes, or our soldiers hands?

EDIT: Holy crap, I time warped over two people!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520775

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War. Now.

Agreed, I'll try a diplomatic approach first (send us the commies, or face the consequences, basically).

WANDER.

I don't know why, but it seems like I haven't seen you in forever. How've you been?

(Sorry TWSP... =P)

Hey buddy! I was going to TG you! I took a respite from NS. It took up too much time and I got tired of it. But I'm back now. :D

The Republic of Czechalrus would be honored if it where allowed to join this great organization.

The Republic of Czechalrus would be honored if it where allowed to join this great organization.
Welcome to the GUSN, Czechalrus. Join us in the off-site forums, link in the first post in this thread!

TWSP will update the first post with your name added to the member list later.

I had a pretty good bombing campaign in Strator. :)

The Worker's State of Kulikovia wishes entrance into the GUSN.

I had a pretty good bombing campaign in Strator. :)
So did I, plus a good old D-Day back in the day.;) Of course, Strator semi-modded and frogman-demolitioned two dozen ships of mine while at sea under their own power at the time.:headbang: But, in the interests of keeping that thread from turning into a giant iggy-fest, I figured taking the hit was the lesser of two evils if my retaliation helped him learn how to RP better (and from what I see it actually has... a bit).

So did I, plus a good old D-Day back in the day.;) Of course, Strator semi-modded and frogman-demolitioned two dozen ships of mine while at sea under their own power at the time.:headbang: But, in the interests of keeping that thread from turning into a giant iggy-fest, I figured taking the hit was the lesser of two evils if my retaliation helped him learn how to RP better (and from what I see it actually has... a bit).

You made a good choice mate. Good job by the way! By clearing that beach head, if he makes the stupid move I think he's going to make, I may just use it.

You made a good choice mate. Good job by the way! By clearing that beach head, if he makes the stupid move I think he's going to make, I may just use it.
Awesome.:cool: But do ask Vetaka first at least, since I handed that area over to them when my forces departed. Plus the Silver Sky too as a precaution, since from what I've been reading they're not being too specific anymore about what parts of Strator's "southeast" they claim (originally they had the westernmost-corner thereof).

Awesome.:cool: But do ask Vetaka first at least, since I handed that area over to them when my forces departed. Plus the Silver Sky too as a precaution, since from what I've been reading they're not being too specific anymore about what parts of Strator's "southeast" they claim (originally they had the westernmost-corner thereof).

I don't plan to invade right now, he hasn't struck yet. But he's pissed after that little bombing campaign which killed 186,500 people. Hey, it made him stop the trade right? :cool:

Now our nation can further our goal of socialism with like-minded nations.

The Republic of Czechalrus would be honored if it where allowed to join this great organization.

Yes.

The Worker's State of Kulikovia wishes entrance into the GUSN.

And yes.

Now our nation can further our goal of socialism with like-minded nations.
Welcome Kulikovia! Joins us in the offsite-forum (link in the first post).

Nice job in Strator, Wanderjar!
Did you know that Strator has founded a colony? It called Xeqeyzikstan (Keh-seck-ay-seek-stan) and is located on the map Toopoxia made up (and I have moved my mainland to this map too).
link here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12425747&postcount=30).
Link to Toop's map-thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520656).

Welcome Kulikovia! Joins us in the offsite-forum (link in the first post).

Nice job in Strator, Wanderjar!
Did you know that Strator has founded a colony? It called Xeqeyzikstan (Keh-seck-ay-seek-stan) and is located on the map Toopoxia made up (and I have moved my mainland to this map too).
link here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12425747&postcount=30).
Link to Toop's map-thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520656).

Thanks bro!

Krrov was shocked at the new order from high command..at least he was at first but soon a sinister grin spread across his face...the remaining artillery batteries opened up on Frisco once again...however this time they're payloads weren't heavy bomb shells instead the payloads consisted of Sarin gas.."If the rebels want to be stubborn then let them all die..it matters not to me we'll wait out for 4 hours then move into the city..there won't be much left." Krrov sat and watched the shells lob into the city...The batteries fired four salvo's of the deadly gas into the city... there would be no where to hide.

Thats right comrades! Gataway has gassed Zambi citizens! We ask for airstrikes on the Gataway capital, in hopes that they can simply leave us alone! We have toppled the government, and yet they greedily continue to fight in hopes that they might annex our eastern cities!

Please comrade nations, we ask for your help!

We (Neo-Erusea) wish to become affiliated with this alliance seeing as we do not fit the criteria for membership.

Thats right comrades! Gataway has gassed Zambi citizens! We ask for airstrikes on the Gataway capital, in hopes that they can simply leave us alone! We have toppled the government, and yet they greedily continue to fight in hopes that they might annex our eastern cities!

Please comrade nations, we ask for your help!

I'll give you some bombers, but, Im not too sure about joining this war.

We (Neo-Erusea) wish to become affiliated with this alliance seeing as we do not fit the criteria for membership.

Huh? You want to join, or not?

LATEST NEWS, ATTN GUSN!

Tyler VanStone has been overthrown, he's up for trial, and we are the judges:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520920

Socialism never works. It is a cursed political idea, doomed to experience miserable failures, now and forever!

Socialism never works. It is a cursed political idea, doomed to experience miserable failures, now and forever!

Oh really? I never noticed it, THANKS!

You've helped see the wrong in my ways, from today on, I shall leave Socialism and turn into a life of CAPITALISM! PURE AND WONDERFUL CAPITALISM!.

not.

The United Socialist States of Corbournne wishes to join the Union.

Then vote for The World Soviet Party's Communist Party in TWSP election thread!

The Republic of Macavao wishes to be admitted (as an observer only, at this time); as Marxist-Leninists fighting under the vanguard of the FPLM, we seek friendly relations with all our brethren.

The United Socialist States of Corbournne wishes to join the Union.

Sorry for the delay, accepted.

The Republic of Macavao wishes to be admitted (as an observer only, at this time); as Marxist-Leninists fighting under the vanguard of the FPLM, we seek friendly relations with all our brethren.

Sure, no problem, I'll add you under associates.

The Dominion of Sendersdale and Greater Colonies
From the office of the Minister of Foreign Affairs

To:
Global Union of Socialist Nations

The Dominion of Sendersdale would like to join the GUSN.

Signed,

Caeser Cufzer
Caeser B. Cufzer, PC, KC, MP
Minister of Foreign Affairs
The Dominion of Sendersdale

The Dominion of Sendersdale and Greater Colonies
From the office of the Minister of Foreign Affairs

To:
Global Union of Socialist Nations

The Dominion of Sendersdale would like to join the GUSN.

Signed,

Caeser Cufzer
Caeser B. Cufzer, PC, KC, MP
Minister of Foreign Affairs
The Dominion of Sendersdale

Sure, added. Try and join the off-site forum.

Official Diplomatic Communique

The Commonwealth of Peltapavlosk formerly petitions to join this organisation.

Alexander Andreovitch Rodenbach
Chairman of the SRVP

Official Diplomatic Communique

The Commonwealth of Peltapavlosk formerly petitions to join this organisation.

Alexander Andreovitch Rodenbach
Chairman of the SRVP

Application accepted, welcome!

Official Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

To: Members of the Global Union of Socialist Nations
From: Vetakan Foreign Affairs

Subject: TWSP/Clandonian Crisis

Honourable Members,

While the Free Dominion of Vetaka is a profoundly capitalist nation we have always respected all nations and organization that defend freedom as such we have always respected the Global Union of Socialist Nations. The Free Dominion of Vetaka while not fitting the exact criteria of the Alliances Memberships requirements shares the same ideals.

The Free Dominion of Vetaka holds the GUSN in high regard and enjoys good relations with a number of members such as the The United Socialist States of Wagdog. Members I write to you today regarding the grave and unstable situation involving the The World Soviet Party and the Clandonian United Kingdom relating to the on going Virgin Islands situation. The Free Dominion of Vetaka not wanting to see open conflict is actively encouraging and supporting an end to the crisis through Diplomatic and Peaceful means as such Vetaka offers Peace Talks in the neutral Vetakan Capital City of Theeb.

Members I appeal to you to do all that you can to support and encourage a diplomatic and peaceful solution to this dangerous problem.

Yours Free Dominion of Vetaka President Scarlet Rogers

The "fair trade" requirement seems a bit vague. To create more solid standards and to promote Socialism outside of the alliance, perhaps signing the International Fair Trade Agreement (http://z1.invisionfree.com/forums/CACE/index.php?showtopic=536) should be a membership requirement for this admirable grouping of socialist economies.

-Esteban Sihardi,
Economics Collective
Francisco Ferrer University

Thakuria wishes to join this alliance for Socialism!

Matteo Ferrofusil
General Secretary of the Thakurian Revolutionary Party

The People Republic of Sernista, worried about the large amounts of anti-socialist sentiment, has decided that it would be in our best interest to join the GUSN to ensure that our interests are protected from those who would rather that socialism died out in our country and around the world.

Thakuria wishes to join this alliance for Socialism!

Matteo Ferrofusil
General Secretary of the Thakurian Revolutionary Party

The People Republic of Sernista, worried about the large amounts of anti-socialist sentiment, has decided that it would be in our best interest to join the GUSN to ensure that our interests are protected from those who would rather that socialism died out in our country and around the world.

Well, I dont know you guys, so the GUSN members will have to vote about it.

The Peoples Republic of Marxikhan would like to join the Global Union of Socialist Nations, we consider our selves a Democratic Socialist nation. We hope we are excepted into the great orginization.

The United Socialist States of Harvea submits an official request to join the Global Union of Socialist Nations



Lev Kamarov
President of the United Socialist States of Harvea in Congress Assembled

We wish to be part of the GUSN

You need to obtain at least three "ayes" from already established GUSN nations.

Thakuria: Aye
Sernista: Aye
Marxikhan: Aye
Harvea: Aye
FreeAngola: HELL TO THE NAW.

Thakuria: Aye
Sernista: Aye
Marxikhan: Aye
Harvea: Aye
FreeAngola: HELL TO THE NAW.
Seconded in full. The others should prove welcome, but FreeAngola's irresponsible policies and utter disrespect shown towards nations of all ideologies indicates to us their patent unsuitability for GUSN membership. We shall oppose any motion for FreeAngola to join the GUSN; that is all.

OCC: can i join the GUSN?

We would like to express our own preliminary support for any North Calaveran candidacy. They are still learning much of the diplomacy required for a socialist nation to survive in a world dominated by the imperialists, but they have always proven willing to listen; a quality that will serve their government well in our organization, we believe.

Official Communique

Comrades of the Permanent Revolution,

The United Socialis States of Krasnyi Oktyabr [USSKO] are most interesed in joining to your fraternity of the GUSN.
It is to our benefit to join a united struggle against Capitalist and anti-socialist movements.

Yours Faithfully,

Gregoriy Ilyushin Lebedev

Peoples Commissar for Foreign Affairs, USSKO.

Shop here,low prices and even a 50% discount for Communist States

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=527429

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Stop Spam-vertising this thread, or any other thread for that matter.

I give my vote to all the people that requested to join because I'm to lazy to quote all of them and then say I give you my vote of approvel, but they all have it.

British Londinium would like to join this alliance.

British Londinium would like to join this alliance.

This is interesting indeed, if you ask my opinion, I'm all for allowing you to join, so I'll pre-emptively add you to the member list, that is if no one complains. And then again, I highly doubt they will.

Welcome to the GUSN.

The People's Republic of North Calaveras wish to join this alliance of united socialst nations and others, we have much respect and will follow the rules, and if we disregard them and cause trouble i will personaly exit the alliance.

As long as i can still keep the SOL

The People's Republic of North Calaveras wish to join this alliance of united socialst nations and others, we have much respect and will follow the rules, and if we disregard them and cause trouble i will personaly exit the alliance.

As long as i can still keep the SOL

May I ask what is the "SOL"?

Sons of Lenin, a small military alliance.

Sons of Lenin, a small military alliance.

Well, I'll need some background info on them before deciding.

well, when you join, some of your armies and everyone else is thrown into one to make a mixed army, and all borders are completly open to freindly and SOL members, we dont want to fight, but we will if we must, as of now im defending myselfe, and dont have many members eitther.

well, when you join, some of your armies and everyone else is thrown into one to make a mixed army, and all borders are completly open to freindly and SOL members, we dont want to fight, but we will if we must, as of now im defending myselfe, and dont have many members eitther.

I see, then it's okay, I guess.

Leocardia would like to join, since their ally is the founder.

Official Diplomatic Telegram:
To: Communist Scum, GUSN
From: Imperial National Republic of New Vantania
The People's Republic of Vantanas is dead. All of the disgusting Communists were purged in the Great Old Vantania Rebellion by purifying radioactive flames, erasing all of the horrors that the Communists have placed on that great land. And unlike the foolish Communists that once dwelled in the great land of Old Vantania, we will have no friendly relations with the GUSN.
Imperial President Jim Martini

OOC: I'm still a New Socialist at heart, but I've decided to stop playing my ideological utopia and play a hard rightwing Imperial Republic. No hard feelings.

Official Diplomatic Telegram:
To: Communist Scum, GUSN
From: Imperial National Republic of New Vantania
The People's Republic of Vantanas is dead. All of the disgusting Communists were purged in the Great Old Vantania Rebellion by purifying radioactive flames, erasing all of the horrors that the Communists have placed on that great land. And unlike the foolish Communists that once dwelled in the great land of Old Vantania, we will have no friendly relations with the GUSN.
Imperial President Jim Martini

OOC: I'm still a New Socialist at heart, but I've decided to stop playing my ideological utopia and play a hard rightwing Imperial Republic. No hard feelings.

IC: Uhm... okay.

OOC: Okay.

Leocardia would like to join, since their ally is the founder.

You're in.

The Democratic Elective Monarchy of Maraque
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Official Communique

To: The World Soviet Party
From: The Democratic Elective Monarchy of Maraque

Greetings,

It is with great sadness that I wish to announce the Democratic Elective Monarchy's intent to withdraw from the Global Union of Socialist Nations.

When we first joined this alliance we thought it was a great idea, but that idea never materialized and our sole reason for withdrawing is because of the inactivity of the alliance.

When or if this alliance ever becomes one of importance on the world stage we don't know, but if that time ever arises we'd be glad to be a part of it again, but at this time we don't think our membership is doing much.

Goodbye, friends, it's been good.

Best regards,
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Emperor Jovan S. Norris
The Democratic Elective Monarchy of Maraque

The Democratic Elective Monarchy of Maraque
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Official Communique

To: The World Soviet Party
From: The Democratic Elective Monarchy of Maraque

Greetings,

It is with great sadness that I wish to announce the Democratic Elective Monarchy's intent to withdraw from the Global Union of Socialist Nations.

When we first joined this alliance we thought it was a great idea, but that idea never materialized and our sole reason for withdrawing is because of the inactivity of the alliance.

When or if this alliance ever becomes one of importance on the world stage we don't know, but if that time ever arises we'd be glad to be a part of it again, but at this time we don't think our membership is doing much.

Goodbye, friends, it's been good.

Best regards,
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Emperor Jovan S. Norris
The Democratic Elective Monarchy of Maraque

It's sad to see such an important member, and above all friend, leave the alliance, but my guess is there's not a thing we can do to stop you, thus I bid you farewell and good luck in your future endeavours.

Official Communique

Comrades of the Permanent Revolution,

The United Socialis States of Krasnyi Oktyabr [USSKO] are most interesed in joining to your fraternity of the GUSN.
It is to our benefit to join a united struggle against Capitalist and anti-socialist movements.

Yours Faithfully,

Gregoriy Ilyushin Lebedev

Peoples Commissar for Foreign Affairs, USSKO.


[So am I in or what then?]

[So am I in or what then?]

OOC: Patience, Luke. You'll be admited

This is kinda' dead...

OOC: Oh god...please don't let this alliance die as well...

OOC: Come on TWSP get the Political Defibulator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defib) on it and shock it.

Dont worry my friends, I'm thinking of something right now.

First, we should remove all non-RP'ing nations.

You know, they just fill up the list without actually doing anything.

Then, maybe, an alliance op., war games, economical shit, I dunno.

I'm open to ideas.

OOC: Please don't let this alliance fall. I'm hoping it will be a key ally in the inevitable war with Gholgoth.

OOC: Please don't let this alliance fall. I'm hoping it will be a key ally in the inevitable war with Gholgoth.

Well, that would be fucked up, really, and I dont plan on seeing one of the last "good" alliances, specially one that tends to some of the most discriminated people (ICily) in NS.
So, rest assured, as long as I'm around, GUSN wont die.

OOC: TWSP I am not a member and Vetaka is a profoundly Capitalist Nation but that only compliments my offer. I offer you a Wargame. Called Operation: Princess you can storm my southen Eastern Coast and attempt to capture Princess City? It can be like 1 Giant Paintball Mission. My only condition is you guys buy the paint and clean up after yourself? :)

Dont worry my friends, I'm thinking of something right now.

First, we should remove all non-RP'ing nations.

You know, they just fill up the list without actually doing anything.

Then, maybe, an alliance op., war games, economical shit, I dunno.

I'm open to ideas.

War games, definitely. I'd suggest that we develop the economic aspect of the organization, since, after all, this organization is built around an economic ideology. First, I think we should promote integration by allowing free movement between nations and creating a "citizenship of the GUSN".

OOC: TWSP I am not a member and Vetaka is a profoundly Capitalist Nation but that only compliments my offer. I offer you a Wargame. Called Operation: Princess you can storm my southen Eastern Coast and attempt to capture Princess City? It can be like 1 Giant Paintball Mission. My only condition is you guys buy the paint and clean up after yourself? :)

That sounds like a plan, heck, let's put it to vote right now!

War games, definitely. I'd suggest that we develop the economic aspect of the organization, since, after all, this organization is built around an economic ideology. First, I think we should promote integration by allowing free movement between nations and creating a "citizenship of the GUSN". Also, I think that we should mandate that tariffs and trade barriers between nations be removed.

Check Vetaka's post, interested? =p

Interesting, while I share some of your POV's (Citizenship of the GUSN, free movement and stuff), I do run a somewhat protectionist economy.
But I'd be all right, we can sign a treaty similar to the one I made with Praetonia some time ago.

On a side note, we never really established a GUSN HQ, any suggestions on the subject?

Better yet, to the GUSN FORUMS!

All GUSN members, please proceed to the following link and vote:

http://z6.invisionfree.com/GUSN/index.php?showtopic=37

OOC: Hi guys!

I just wanted to tell you that I'm back on NS now. The last months has been very busy in RL for me, but now I'm back and alive!

I'd like to clarify that Operation: Skgorrian Brutality is not a genocide, just a programme to prepare to immerse the residents in Londinian culture.

OOC: Hi guys!

I just wanted to tell you that I'm back on NS now. The last months has been very busy in RL for me, but now I'm back and alive!

Hey!

Welcome back, we are working in reviving the alliance =p

I'd like to clarify that Operation: Skgorrian Brutality is not a genocide, just a programme to prepare to immerse the residents in Londinian culture.

The thread got closed though.

I suggest you send all the "unwashed" Hatarians to Clandonia Prime, just for the lulz.

Merik will join this alliance.

Oh, just a heads up, we'll be purging the alliance member list, to eliminate inactive nations.

I'll give out a list later, and you can comment, suggest or argue in favour or against someone (in favour of him/her being kicked or not).

Merik will join this alliance.

Are you an active RP'er?

Because being 2004 and having just 11 posts does not sound like it.

Update: Nations too inactive or just plain dead that I'm planning on purging from the member list:


Vontanas (Left due to goverment change) [No reason to keep him in the list]
New-Roubus
South Adrea
Qalustan
Bynzekistan
Zambistan
East Lithuania
Thakuria
Sernista
Marxikhan
Harvea
Maraque (Withdrawn due to alliance inactivity) [Same as Vontanas]
Kulikovia
Montegrande [Nation got DEAT'd]
Cautetan

I can't see a problem with the list.

Just to let you know, I'm still active, and RPing, check the calizorinstan ba'athist coup thingy thread


EDIT: might want to send zambistan a PM before you remove him from the alliance, I'm currently involved in an RP with him, so check to see if he's still involved with the GUSN. Also, we should look into hosting a world socialist forum, for those who are not in the alliance but still left aligned.

yep

Also, we should look into hosting a world socialist forum, for those who are not in the alliance but still left aligned.

Sure, go ahead =p

The Indian Soviet Commonwealth of Beth Gellert has tended to shun international alliances beyond the expansion of its own Commonwealth, and citizens still hold great reservations to this day. Membership conditions rarely mesh perfectly with Soviet reality, and the GUSN seems to be no exception.

However, Raipur is increasingly aware of its isolation, and a recent economic slow-down (since the fast-paced public-works-lead development of Bengal and other areas briefly made Beth Gellert's one of the strongest anti-capitalist economies in the multiverse) gives cause for great concern. Likewise, the Commonwealth's inability to single-handedly confront the larger conservative and reactionary power-blocs on a military footing has been lately exposed.

As such, the Final Soviet has elected to request associate status in the GUSN, indicating that a review of the position and of the Commonwealth's relation to the alliance will be a later order of business.

Raipur will discuss economic relations in the near future, with reference to a new trade policy that allows -in a complicated fashion- finished consumer and non-military capital goods to be imported for the first time since the May Revolution of 1982.

The Indian Soviet Commonwealth of Beth Gellert has tended to shun international alliances beyond the expansion of its own Commonwealth, and citizens still hold great reservations to this day. Membership conditions rarely mesh perfectly with Soviet reality, and the GUSN seems to be no exception.

However, Raipur is increasingly aware of its isolation, and a recent economic slow-down (since the fast-paced public-works-lead development of Bengal and other areas briefly made Beth Gellert's one of the strongest anti-capitalist economies in the multiverse) gives cause for great concern. Likewise, the Commonwealth's inability to single-handedly confront the larger conservative and reactionary power-blocs on a military footing has been lately exposed.

As such, the Final Soviet has elected to request associate status in the GUSN, indicating that a review of the position and of the Commonwealth's relation to the alliance will be a later order of business.

Raipur will discuss economic relations in the near future, with reference to a new trade policy that allows -in a complicated fashion- finished consumer and non-military capital goods to be imported for the first time since the May Revolution of 1982.

Your application for Associate Status is, of course, accepted.

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To: The Indian Soviet Commonwealth of Beth Gellert

We're very pleased to see that such a large and well-reputated country as Beth Gellert are ready to approach GUSN.

We're going to recommend the GUSN to accept Beth Gellert as an associated country.

General Bengt Gustafsson
Secretary of GUSN
The Socialist Kingdom of Kopparbergs

As British Londinium said, we need a GUSN HQ.

Thus, I propose it be located in the capital city of The World Soviet Party, Red City, where it shall have one of our best, and historical buildings, the Red Palace, and a permanent guard composed of elite soldiers of the Red Army and Spec. Ops., as well as helipads, fighters, and armoured vehicles.

SIC: And, of course, a nuclear shelter, several underground meeting rooms and stuff, you know, the usual.

You're right, we need a GUSN HQ.
Red City, The World Soviet Party, will be perfectly fine. Our Secretary of GUSN, General Bengt Gustafsson, will move to GUSN HQ when it's finnished (together with a delegation of about ten administrators and advisors).

It is the belief of the Krendian authorities that Krendakov City can provide a much better locale for the GUSN headquarters. There we shall establish an international zone guarded by forces from each permanent council member. We shall use this to begin a series of restoration projects in the inner city by the river. There will be parklands and leisure facilities - including a concert hall - built nearby. Krendakov City is the obvious location for this headquarters.

Also, we should look into hosting a world socialist forum, for those who are not in the alliance but still left aligned.

I've decided to host this based on the suggestion from TWSP "sure go ahead =P" so come on and join us, we'll resolve whast to do about the rampant anti-communism ((personally I say we unleash british londinium on them, what with their internment camps and all =P)) and decide how we will combat capitalism on NS, etc
Link
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12790205

OOC: Some of you should check (or post numbers on) my DBLF thread thing. It´s in my sig. I added a few names.

Bump

Every in this Union if they are able to must vote against motion to repeal "the right to form unions". They should also urge other left-wing and socialist states to do the same.

How does one join the Global Union of Socialist Nations?

How does one join the Global Union of Socialist Nations?

Applying?

And NS UN does not exist in II.

is this MT?

is this MT?

Yes, it is.

To Whom It May Concern
FROM THE DESK OF GRAND COMMISSAR JUSTIN D. COLE

The United Socialist States Of Zintharia, under the command of the aforementioned GCOMM Cole is proud to lend its support to this noble endeavor. We are a new, small country, with hardly any military resources at all, but in the name of Karl Marx, our nation will pledge our heart and soul to this grand alliance.

Sincerely,
Justin D. Cole
Grand Commissar, USSZ

To: The Global Union of Socialist Nations

The People's Republic of Sorthern Northland would like to join forces with other socialist nations around the world by joining the Global Union of Socialist Nations. We hope our request is accepted.

Ben O'Bagels
President of The People's Republic of Sorthern Northland.

The Worker's State of Kulikovia, a long standing bastion in Socialist ideaology, desires admittance into the GUSN so that we may promote Socialism around the globe and protect it wherever it is threatened.

Waiting for people to vote on the applicants.

Waiting for people to vote on the applicants.
OOC: I think we should accept all of them. And I also vote for giving you authorization to approve applications without voting. In that way the applicants will get a quicker answer. What do'ya say?

OOC: I think we should accept all of them. And I also vote for giving you authorization to approve applications without voting. In that way the applicants will get a quicker answer. What do'ya say?

You'll see, for some reaosn, I always look at newcomers with distrust, and I'd like to make sure they are active before joining.
That, and years of being the one who had to say "no" in school when people wanted to join your group. Thus why I stopped doing it and said "ask the others".

Anyways, Kulikova was on the list before I purged inactive members, so I'd like proof that I wont have to do it again.

OOC: to those whom it concerns, i might be away from NS for at least seven days at a time because the only computer in my immediate family is at my dad's, and i go to see him for only two to three days at a time on the weekends.

just wanted to know if that affects my application.

also, is there a specific region we should join? i'm currently a proud comrade of the Nationstates Communist Party.

You'll see, for some reaosn, I always look at newcomers with distrust, and I'd like to make sure they are active before joining.
OOC: Okay, I see the problem.

How about a two-stage application:

1) The interested nation applies for membership in the GUSN. They get a probationary membership for a period of one RL week.

2) When the probationary period of one RL week is ended, they must re-apply to show that they're active. When they make their second application they'll be a full worthy member in GUSN (after we've confirmed their application). If they fail to re-apply, they are simply dismissed by automatic and their probationary membership in GUSN are cancelled.

OOC: also, is there a specific region we should join? i'm currently a proud comrade of the Nationstates Communist Party.
OOC: No, we don't have any specific region for the GUSN. We're all in different regions.

It is the belief of the Krendian authorities that Krendakov City can provide a much better locale for the GUSN headquarters. There we shall establish an international zone guarded by forces from each permanent council member. We shall use this to begin a series of restoration projects in the inner city by the river. There will be parklands and leisure facilities - including a concert hall - built nearby. Krendakov City is the obvious location for this headquarters.

Kopparbergs' vote still goes to Red City, The World Soviet Party.

Votes so far:

Red City, The World Soviet Party: 2 (Kopparbergs, TWSP)

Krendakov City, Krendakov: 1 (Krendakov)

We must come to a conclusion, and I'm recommending that the voting period will end July 3rd.

Members, please place your vote.

OOC: Do the admission requirements state that no dictatorships are allowed, or no evil ones? Would, say, a benevolent dictatorship be permitted?

OOC: Do the admission requirements state that no dictatorships are allowed, or no evil ones? Would, say, a benevolent dictatorship be permitted?

There is no "benevolent dictatorship", because it's still a dictatorship, at least that's what I think and kind of uphold.

So, a no from me, you should ask the other members though.

There is no "benevolent dictatorship", because it's still a dictatorship, at least that's what I think and kind of uphold.

So, a no from me, you should ask the other members though.

OOC: Aww...there go my plans. :p

ICCD will abstain from the voting as I think both would make wonderful HQ's.

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DEMAND OF EXPULSION OF BRITISH LONDINIUM

Due to the disgusting actions, which have taken place in Cazelia by the troops from British Londinium, we have to immediately expel BL from the Global Union of Socialist Nations. We cannot have these horrific animals in our organization.

If this demand of expulsion of BL is voted against, consider this letter as our withdrawal from GUSN. We're not going to side with these bastards.

Werner Moltov
Prime Minister/Head of State
General Secretary of Kopparbergs' Socialist Party, KSP
The Socialist Kingdom of Kopparbergs