NationStates Jolt Archive

The world of this rp is set in an entirely made up one where you get create your own nation with near unlimited capacity in your ability to create your own culture, history, and race though there cannot be giants over twenty feet tall and their will be no unlimited populations of orcs or goblins.

The tech and magic levels will be quite varied as there will be a number of different with some of them possessing the technology to make gunpowder bombs like the Chinese had in the 10th century, there can be stone age tech tribes whose members can kill people, elves will be allowed to have a natural affinity to use magic to heal, their will be some peoples who gave up magic all together and as a result they became more immune to its effects and also were stronger physically, and of course tweaked human races will be allowed.

Recent History and Background:
The back story of the rp is that within the last few centuries the Valgardians arrived from beyond the northern glaciers and managed to take advantage of the turmoil of the lands of the time to establish themselves as a powerful kingdom in the great river valley. They quickly expanded over the last few hundred years to have dominion over a greater portion of the great river valley and emerged as the strongest kingdom in the known world. With that power they turned into a vast empire and enslaved many different peoples as they continued to expand.

The main reasons behind the strength of the Valgardians was their organized armies, their long life spans, more powerful and skilled warriors, and their organization of their lands.

So now the world is set as the world is still at constant war with the states fighting each other and the Valgardians continuing to expand their lands.

Magic Rules:
The power of magic is strong, though people can use magic in battle the ability to utilize magic is limited to only people born with that type of it, but as a whole many more people use magic for common purpouses for day to day living and the more skilled and powerful of the common mages is their ability to heal serve and deadly wounds. As well, alchemy exists in that people can transform a piece of iron into a blade and for the most powerful of alchemists they can extend their lives beyond what they were meant to be.

Note specail characters are not subject to any real limits, save I can say it is god modding if it gets out of hand.

Tech Rules:
Though you can have bombs, very early rockets, and clocks people cannot have muskets or steam power. Yet, for things like construction and lighting purposes feel free to make up outlandish things, but I do not want any sky scrapers though towers hundreds of feet tall are allowed.

Map:
http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=map22tv5.png

Factbooks:
Blue: The Scandinvans: Valgard: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515049
Red: Kanami: Neko: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515064
Brown:Ezaltia: Zjiugias: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12230449
Yellow :Thrashia: Soul Society: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12230788#post12230788
Crimsion: Granate: Trollo'kar: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515093
Black :Hakurabi: Kobold: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515099
Turqouise :Aqua Anu: Hoshino: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515101
Purple :Kurona: Magdaline: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515151
Gray: Blub Empire: Blub: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12241591#post12241591
Cyan: [NS:]Delesa: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12249341#post12249341
: The Jade Star:White Towers: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=516427
Light Purple: True Race: Drakonia: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12258512
: Uldarious: Yelsa: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12266355#post12266355

Threads:
The Wars of Valgardians Expansion: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12232403#post12232403
Trade: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12232411#post12232411
Diplomacy Thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12232432#post12232432
Thread Hub: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=516585

Have any questions feel free to ask.

Awsome I'm in. What do you want me to do, do you want me to make a fact book?

Yeap, and thanks for the interest.

I'd like to play. I've been wanting to do a PT for a while now

You are most welcome here then.:)

I'm in. BY race, do you mean like make your own species?

Also, are psionics allowed?

I'm in. BY race, do you mean like make your own species?

Also, are psionics allowed?Yes, you can make your own race.

You mean WarHammers psionics, right?

If so it has to be linked to your god.

No, I mean more like D&D psionics. Magic that come from the mind, not the elements.

Sure, the would work due to it coming from a greater energy. For example you can influence the world around you by using the powers of the mind.

Exactly. I'll make a factbook once I get home from school.

Alright then, even though you should not be rping in class.:D

Actually, it's the last day of the semester and we're watching kung-fu hustle. :cool:

Nothing, but :cool: then.

:cool: I'm willing to join

Good, good set up a fact book and all will be set. Though I do wish to know what land you want. If you do not have a good program for it just use a the paint program and then I will fix to it the map better. As well, if you don't want to I will highlight the lands you want.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515064

Sorry to bug you Scand...


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515040&page=2

I'd be interested in this too.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515064Looks good.

Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12230449)

Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12230449)Added.

Is there limited capacity or is there room for more?:cool: I'm interested.

Is there limited capacity or is there room for more?:cool: I'm interested.You can join.

I'll take this area as my homeland, if possible:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i114/ninjahedgehog/zeworldsdig2.png

Consider me in then. I'll have a smallish type nation which will be a human "magic" twist to it. It should be interesting. I'll allow you to judge once I've made the factbook.

Consider me in then. I'll have a smallish type nation which will be a human "magic" twist to it. It should be interesting. I'll allow you to judge once I've made the factbook.Sounds good go for it, might I suggest one of the little lake valleys for your nation then?

Sounds good go for it, might I suggest one of the little lake valleys for your nation then?

I'll take this peninsula that I marked off in yellow:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/ptmap.jpg

It has been given to you for the most part.

All right. Hey Thrashia, we're pretty close geographically. Want to be allies?

I'll take this area as my homeland, if possible:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i114/ninjahedgehog/zeworldsdig2.pngIt has been given to you for the most part.

I'll take this peninsula that I marked off in yellow:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/Upum/ptmap.jpgLooks good to me, you have it.:D

I'll take this area if you would be so kind. Just the Islands. And my mysterious species will be.... Trolls.

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3239/zeworldsz2.png

I'll take this area if you would be so kind. Just the Islands. And my mysterious species will be.... Trolls.

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3239/zeworldsz2.pngGood, give me your factbook and all will be set.

Here is my factbook.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12230788#post12230788

I'd like to join - I'm not very particular in where I am, put me on an island, please.

yikes the land is going like hotcakes! I better lay my stake. I know it's small but I like small.

I'll put up my factbook shortly

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/AShadow17/Nation%20States/island.jpg

Here is my factbook.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12230788#post12230788You Bleach geek.;)

Accepted.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515093

here's mine and yes I know I stole half the names from World of Warcraft, but the Trolls there are filled with such great lore that I couldn't resist.

You Bleach geek.;)

Accepted.

Ara, ara I guess I'm in! :D I can't help myself. I got sucked into it. Blame my little brother. XD

I'd like this region. Yes, I understand it's impinging on yours, but such border conflicts do make for plenty of tension. It's more of a contested area thing - ie. The Kobolds think it's theirs (ancestral home). It'd also provide a good in for why the alliance has formed in the first place.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c150/Hakurabi/region.jpg]

If not, just the uncontested zones of that mountain range.

I'd like this region. Yes, I understand it's impinging on yours, but such border conflicts do make for plenty of tension. It's more of a contested area thing - ie. The Kobolds think it's theirs (ancestral home). It'd also provide a good in for why the alliance has formed in the first place.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c150/Hakurabi/region.jpg]

If not, just the uncontested zones of that mountain range.What kind of race are your's and do you mean along the inner sea, also for the most part where do they live now?

Ara, ara I guess I'm in! :D I can't help myself. I got sucked into it. Blame my little brother. XDBy the way as to the power of your Shinigami are matched in power by my battle mages, and as for your characters would not be able to face the Valgardian Emperor like they would normal people due to the Valgardian Emperor's connection his gods.

It's a Kobold (D&D) Alliance of Tribes, and for the most part they're native to that mountain range. (The grey bit is a mountain range, right?)

Kobolds are small, cowardly reptilian creatures with an infamous affinity for traps and tunnels.

I'd like to join - I'm not very particular in where I am, put me on an island, please.You are the nation highlighted by the greenish color.

By the way as to the power of your Shinigami are matched in power by my battle mages, and as for your characters would not be able to face the Valgardian Emperor like they would normal people due to the Valgardian Emperor's connection his gods.

So we will see...:eek:

It's a Kobold (D&D) Alliance of Tribes, and for the most part they're native to that mountain range. (The grey bit is a mountain range, right?)

Kobolds are small, cowardly reptilian creatures with an infamous affinity for traps and tunnels.(Yes, the grey are mountains) So in essence they are like goblins.

Sort of. They get interchanged from setting to setting. Although Kobolds have gotten more of a name for themselves, thanks to DMs setting them up with vicious traps.

So we will see...:eek:Why do you think the Valgardians flee from the north.:p

My factbook is a page back. Just so you know.

Sorry about that, I have put it on the list of fact books.

Why do you think the Valgardians flee from the north.:p

Because they haven't opened up the can of woop-ass from the south yet. :D

Because they haven't opened up the can of woop-ass from the south yet. :DWell, we can boast our peoples:cool: , or we can discuus the true motives of the Valgardians are quite different then what they appear to be, this is acutally true.

Alright, factbook done.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515099

I love how you gave them D&D levels. :p I think I'll do that with my significant characters once I make them.

Yes, yes that is cool.

Ezaltia mind if I send someone to your nation?

Okay my factbook is finally finished

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515101

I'm going to lay my stake and get started on my factbook

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/AShadow17/Nation%20States/PTLand-Kurona.jpg

Ezaltia mind if I send someone to your nation?

Care to elaborate?

Okay my factbook is finally finished

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515101Population a little small, but it seems quite good work and it seems you would like to play a small nation. If you want to chage you population I would allow up to sixty thousand persons on due to fishing and farming.

Oi, scand, when are you going to start up the ic thread? I'm curious as to when I can expect this to start so I can fit it in with other rps I have going.

My fact book is up http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515151 and it looks fine on the map

I'm going to lay my stake and get started on my factbook

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g310/AShadow17/Nation%20States/PTLand-Kurona.jpgCheck the front page if you like your claim?

Oi, scand, when are you going to start up the ic thread? I'm curious as to when I can expect this to start so I can fit it in with other rps I have going.Well, I was expecting to allow people to use their factboks as their IC threads to, though I can set one up if you want me too?

Well, I was expecting to allow people to use their factboks as their IC threads to, though I can set one up if you want me too?

I think a main central thread would be best, factbooks can be reserved as a place to post characters that develop (fleshing them out) and explaining tid-bits about them. That way we can all keep up, in a way, with who is who, and other things.

A main thread can be used, for example, the main Valgardian efforts on conquest, the diplomacy that will be happening between different tribes and kingdoms, and the battles between nations should it happen.

Thank you that seems like a good idea as that would help to organize the threads, though I will only set up the main threads and my threads.

Check the front page if you like your claim?


So the red line marks my border?

So the red line marks my border?Well, the purple lines mark yours, but you have the right idea.

As well, don't you think that 125 million persosn is to much for your country, try for like about 34-50 million considering my nation only has about 60 million.

sure looks good to me

Also, your nation is trying to develop aircraft, Leonardo designs, or acutally building ones as the closest thing allowed will be gaint kites.

By the way wars are allowed now.:p

Care to elaborate?Something like a trade deal.

Hmm... What would you say to having the Kobold Alliance come into play by ambushing a guard platoon moving between towns? Or even wiping out a town altogether?

Sounds alright if you ambush a guard platoon patrolling a dangerous mountain road near the border, but I would prefer for you to assault and end up losing more due to the superior strength, skill, and disipline of the Valgardian army. Cool with you?

Sure, but the trouble is that Kobolds, by nature, are outright cowards - they're more likely to settle for wiping a force out slowly through repeated attacks than to fight it out until the end.

On the other hand, they are pretty much warrior groups, so the assault wouldn't be too hard to work in. Of course, the initial volley of crossbow shots at the very beginning is mostly a given.

Just a quick pre-ambush setup:

The ambushers will probably be nine in number - attacking a convoy of four soldiers or less.
4 Warriors (warrior 1) (halfspear, light crossbow, leather armour)
4 Archers (warrior 1) (shortsword, light crossbow, leather armour)
1 Sorceror (sorceror 1) (light crossbow)

The opening moves will likely be as such:
1: All kobolds fire crossbows at soldiers. Warriors then drop crossbows.
2: Sorceror casts Burning Hands, warriors charge while archers reload.
3: Warriors engage, sorceror reloads, three archers fire.

Fire continues in a 3:2 pattern.

Alright since we are talking about small numbers I will just have three scouts being ambushed due to my real troops movements being made along secured routes and are platoon patrols are still quite large.

It will be:
2 Valgardian Rangers (Longbow, Chain Mail, Leather Armor, Long Sword, and Three Throwing Axes)
1 Non-Valgardian Scout (Cloth Armor, Leather Armor, 1 Yew Bow, 1 Long Sword 1 Long Dagger, and 2 Throwing Axes)

My trolls may not be Technologicaly Advanced, but they make up for that shortcomming with Tactics. Trolls are naturally cunning and smart. Trolls make great Tacticians.

My trolls may not be Technologicaly Advanced, but they make up for that shortcomming with Tactics. Trolls are naturally cunning and smart. Trolls make great Tacticians.What are you smoking trolls are duller then the rocks they grew from.;)

You can have good tatics, but you cannot have an Alexanders, no Napeleons (though the dynamite one is okay), nor any brillant one. Though you can have ones that know how to exploit enemies' weaknesses and how use your strengths, mostly brute force, to your advantage.

Sure, but the trouble is that Kobolds, by nature, are outright cowards - they're more likely to settle for wiping a force out slowly through repeated attacks than to fight it out until the end.

On the other hand, they are pretty much warrior groups, so the assault wouldn't be too hard to work in. Of course, the initial volley of crossbow shots at the very beginning is mostly a given.

Just a quick pre-ambush setup:

The ambushers will probably be nine in number - attacking a convoy of four soldiers or less.
4 Warriors (warrior 1) (halfspear, light crossbow, leather armour)
4 Archers (warrior 1) (shortsword, light crossbow, leather armour)
1 Sorceror (sorceror 1) (light crossbow)

The opening moves will likely be as such:
1: All kobolds fire crossbows at soldiers. Warriors then drop crossbows.
2: Sorceror casts Burning Hands, warriors charge while archers reload.
3: Warriors engage, sorceror reloads, three archers fire.

Fire continues in a 3:2 pattern.So when is the ambush and do you mind if ask would it be alright if I say that the Valgardians orginally conquered your lands due to disunity and afterwards won it more slowly due a more organized, skilled, and disiplined army? Also for the time being would it be alright for the start time of this thread there is no outright war. though can be changed in literally a day?

So...did we get an IC thread started? Or must I be the one to start it?

I think Scandinvans started three threads for war, diplomacy, and trade.

One for his war of Expansion, One for Trade and another Diplomacy.

Anyone want to make a coalition to stop Valgard?

Trolls are natural Xenophobes. They don't work well with other races,... well they rarely work well with each other.

This is just a thought, I see there are three threads for Diplomacy, trade, and war, but perhaps we want to make another more general thread for anything that doesn't apply to the three. After all, I'm sure we want to do more than poltical. Or otherwise ourfact book pages can serve for that.

well, the 'war' thread is just for ONE war. If we fighte each other rather than Valgard, methinks we should make different threads.

I think that Scand meant the war thread to be the general thread, since it makes sense to do that. We're not all going to be fighting all the time. Better to be posting in there than anywhere else. least that is what I am doing.

Malon, the threads pertain to those topics and my War thread is linked to my wars and to counterattacks by people. Though for general I would prefer for people to use the fact books of people for that since it would get rather confusing for all of us to use one thread and there will be to many threads if we all use different ones for each nation. Though for major events, like alliances or inter-nation wars or maybe other things deemed quite important, I would not mind at all.

I just put my post in the war thread, since it...leads to war...I guess...:headbang:

I just put my post in the war thread, since it...leads to war...I guess...:headbang:It is cool, if you want war against me.:cool: Yet, whom are you going to fight?

We'll have to see I guess. Its a meeting concerning the advance of your Vals, so it may involve a mission to be sent to investigate how far "infected" the north has become. ^^

We'll have to see I guess. Its a meeting concerning the advance of your Vals, so it may involve a mission to be sent to investigate how far "infected" the north has become. ^^Alright, but know if you call a Valgardian noble a Val he will kill you. Note though the Valgardians nobles are the most powerfull people in the Empire and will overpower the average soul reaper quite well, think Trinity Blood Vampires as to how powerful they are.

Alright, but know if you call a Valgardian noble a Val he will kill you. Note though the Valgardians nobles are the most powerfull people in the Empire and will overpower the average soul reaper quite well, think Trinity Blood Vampires as to how powerful they are.

Methuselah huh? Well, a shinigami of the 3rd seat and lieutenant should be able to hold their own against that...and a captain would of course, I think, be better. But then captains don't do spy work, so no worries about any near occasion where a captain and a val noble will meet.

EDIT: I also added some character info in my FB.

I'd like to take part to this, if you're still accepting new members. I've thought about a Celtic sort of a thing, with a rather major country bordering Valkardian Empire south from it. Druids and forest magic, society and technology resembling that of the Gauls in the late iron age. Tribes and such, fighting each other, but uniting should a greater threat arise from outside. If there's a character able to do that.

What say you?

So when is the ambush and do you mind if ask would it be alright if I say that the Valgardians orginally conquered your lands due to disunity and afterwards won it more slowly due a more organized, skilled, and disiplined army? Also for the time being would it be alright for the start time of this thread there is no outright war. though can be changed in literally a day?

Sure, it fits in with their backstory. Come to think of it, I may have to edit it somewhat because of this 'common threat' thing.

The adventurers were originally natives of the current Valgardian lands, and fled to the mountains around the valley when the Vals began to conquer.

When they reached the mountains, they continued to cut down all in their way, causing a crisis relevant to all the natives of the area. As such, the adventurers travelled between tribes and towns and made links, forming the natives of the mountains into one large alliance - the Kobold Alliance, for the majority race. Under the united banner, they began to slow the advance to where the borders lie today. As the closest to the Valgardian advance and the most personally affected, they have the most outright hatred for the foreigners and will likely not accept anything but a total withdrawl from their ancestral lands for peace.

I'll make the thread later today.

Methuselah huh? Well, a shinigami of the 3rd seat and lieutenant should be able to hold their own against that...and a captain would of course, I think, be better. But then captains don't do spy work, so no worries about any near occasion where a captain and a val noble will meet.

EDIT: I also added some character info in my FB.Good, good though you should know that you will either have to travel as embassadors or just stay out of the five big cities as swords, bows, and spears are not allowed in the hands of commoners in the cities, though this should be pretty easy as in the rest of the lands and smaller cities carrying weapons in your hands is quite legal.

I'd like to take part to this, if you're still accepting new members. I've thought about a Celtic sort of a thing, with a rather major country bordering Valgardian Empire south from it. Druids and forest magic, society and technology resembling that of the Gauls in the late iron age. Tribes and such, fighting each other, but uniting should a greater threat arise from outside. If there's a character able to do that.

What say you?Sounds quite good, as long as the druids do not control the weather yet it is okay for them to increase fertility and to find underground water, and also where do you want to be on the map exactly?

Sure, it fits in with their backstory. Come to think of it, I may have to edit it somewhat because of this 'common threat' thing.

The adventurers were originally natives of the current Valgardian lands, and fled to the mountains around the valley when the Vals began to conquer.

When they reached the mountains, they continued to cut down all in their way, causing a crisis relevant to all the natives of the area. As such, the adventurers travelled between tribes and towns and made links, forming the natives of the mountains into one large alliance - the Kobold Alliance, for the majority race. Under the united banner, they began to slow the advance to where the borders lie today. As the closest to the Valgardian advance and the most personally affected, they have the most outright hatred for the foreigners and will likely not accept anything but a total withdrawl from their ancestral lands for peace.

I'll make the thread later today.Alright, I agree as this is right on the nail for what I was thinking of. Yet, though the war is more protracted in your lands if you advance to where the Valgardians made roads, espically the lowlands, the Valgardians will be able to keep the fight well in their advantag due to being more organization and having the ability to bring in forces easily and efficently.

Somebody do something exciting, I'm bored!:rolleyes:

Somebody do something exciting, I'm bored!:rolleyes:

Request accepted. :cool:

Request accepted. :cool:

I'm looking forward to whatever you have in mind. :)

I'm looking forward to whatever you have in mind. :)

Completed.

Scand, I need to know the name of the Val noble who rules over Yioriti.

Scand, I need to know the name of the Val noble who rules over Yioriti.His name is Godwinson Erida.

Alright, I agree as this is right on the nail for what I was thinking of. Yet, though the war is more protracted in your lands if you advance to where the Valgardians made roads, espically the lowlands, the Valgardians will be able to keep the fight well in their advantag due to being more organization and having the ability to bring in forces easily and efficently.

That's really why the fight is at such a standstill. An advance on the Valgardian part is almost suicide, as deathtraps and ambushes are abound. On the other hand, there's more infrastructure for large troop movements on the Valgardian lands so a direct attack by the Alliance is also suicide.

It'll still take time for the Kobolds to figure out that the roads are key to Valgardian mobility, but until then their losses will be heavy.

Anyway, working on the post now.

Alright, thread is up. Roleplay up until the patrol gets to the middle of the ambush.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515356

Alright, thread is up. Roleplay up until the patrol gets to the middle of the ambush.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515356Good, though since this rather more of a minor thread, as it is just to establish a few things, I shall not put it on the front, kay?

Scand, I'm sending one of my "ninjas" to infiltrate the noble's palace at Yoiriti, put a knife to Godwinson Erida's throat, and then get some information. That cool with you?;)

Scand, I'm sending one of my "ninjas" to infiltrate the noble's palace at Yoiriti, put a knife to Godwinson Erida's throat, and then get some information. That cool with you?;)Nope:p . As unlike other Valgardians he has a contigment of the Imperial Guard protecting him and even your guys cannot sneak past them and they number to many to overcome as they are trained in magics to detect people and to break camofluage.

Nope:p . As unlike other Valgardians he has a contigment of the Imperial Guard protecting him and even your guys cannot sneak past them and they number to many to overcome as they are trained in magics to detect people and to break camofluage.

Sounds a bit too secure for a crop trading city....

Obviously not. It's a small skirmish which establishes the conflict between the two groups, not an all out war. It's not like I'm exploding your storehouses or anything.

(This is with regards to the thread, not the immediately prior conversation.)

Sounds a bit too secure for a crop trading city....Well, it is desginated as one of the five major cities of my Empire and it also handles the southern trade routes that enter the Empire through it.

Tag.

Tag.Feel free to join.

Thanks. :) I was just subscribing so I don't lose the link.

Here's the islands I'd like, please.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/967/blublandns0fp.jpg

I'll be playing Blubs.. which are designed for play in fantasy games. =) They're small, funny, industrious.. and I'm working on a factbook for them right now.

Alright how does this look? http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=map9nz.png

Excellent! Thank you. :) My factbook is 90% complete.. I hope you like it, it'll be posted within.. 5-10 minutes.

I better like it.;)

PHEW~ ... done.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12241591#post12241591

PHEW~ ... done.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12241591#post12241591No canons or airships as this is past tech, even if it by magic. *Takes out Salt Shaker*

*shakes clenched tentacles in the air*

*shakes clenched tentacles in the air*Just for that, the power of the SALT comples you.

*mighty Blub glare*

Say, what about the ambush thread?

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With regards to Airships:

Aircraft in any form are going to change the style of battle immensely, as are cannons. If you had airships, I would need something to counter them, such as autogyros, as otherwise you could just chuck explosive barrels directly on my forces.

On the other hand... *thinks about high levelled characters conjuring air elementals*

Airships are not allowed due to them giving you an edge of being able to fight safely from the skies and definatly no elemental creatures can be summoned, the only person who I talked can only bound souls to puny skeltons.

My dragonkin aerial fighters could probably take one out..Just fly up, land on the top, slice a few good-size holes, and the whole thing comes tumbling down. Done and done.

You see I do not mind flying animals or anything, though you cannot own the skies as you can be shot down, but what I want to have is an PT thread without any real advanced tech.

Plus, they aren't really meant for fighting in midair. They're more for dropping behind walls to take out catapults and stuff.

Of course, if someone else threw gryphons or something at me, I bet they could hold their own...

Yeah, you see my point as they are meant for ground support and aiding, not being a factor which alone wins a battle, as they can be shot down with arrows when their is literally a storm of them, the closer you are the more likely to be shot.

*flails tentacles*

Alright, Blub to replace Airships, though they cannot fly, you get giant land squids.:)

Yay! *sends giant land squids after Scandi*

*squids glare mightily!*

Erm. So... I'm not sure what to do now. Got my factbook and stuff..

Yay! *sends giant land squids after Scandi*

*squids glare mightily!*

Erm. So... I'm not sure what to do now. Got my factbook and stuff..Everything else is fine, except the airships and on your navy replace the cannons with catapults.

Done! *glares, shakes a salt shaker at Scandi threateningly*

So necromancy is the highest form of magical power, as far as conjuration goes? Damn.

Scaling wise, how much more powerful are special individuals allowed to be than rank-and-file military?

So necromancy is the highest form of magical power, as far as conjuration goes? Damn.

Scaling wise, how much more powerful are special individuals allowed to be than rank-and-file military?Achilles strong, but can be defeated by a force let us say of 90 soldiers,, though for example the only time I will let things slide is like there is a fall of your nation and your kings goes beserk and kills a few hundred enemies.

So around a 90:1 ratio type of power...

Alright, that means that if there's ever anything big enough to warrant a gathering of the special characters there's pretty much going to be massive carnage. Hmm... That means that most 9th level spells should be just fine to use. Clearly if powerful spellcasters are backed by military formations their power will be magnified considerably, but otherwise 90:1 is a sound number.

This'd be crack troops, right? Not just average rank-and-files?

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Besides which, could you post on the Kobold Ambush thread?

Nope, those are rank and file soldiers, becuase for average crack soldiers the ratio will be 30 to one for a special charatcer.

Right. Good thing it works both ways...

And the fact that there's going to be synergy between certain characters.

Yet, remember this only due to skill and a special character can be killed with a few arrows to the neck.

New thread. :) http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515486

*Curiously perks head in*

Would a race of technomancers be allowed? using science and magic or a psuod combo of both and sometimes passing off science as magic to the common folk?

*Curiously perks head in*

Would a race of technomancers be allowed? using science and magic or a psuod combo of both and sometimes passing off science as magic to the common folk?Alright though there cannot be any steam power, guns, or cannons. Though you can have fire works, primitive hand bombs, very early rockets, clocks, and kite.

I would be interested in joining this. I'll make a Factbook later if accepted.

Good then.

Note that the kobolds ambushing your rangers are probably below the curve, as far as rank-and-file goes.

These would be the remanants from destroyed tribes and some of the normal, pre-alliance claws.

Once military mines are set up and training gets into full swing you'll start facing fighters (not mere warriors) of levels 3-5 as rank-and-files, with sorcerors of levels 4-5.

Sorry, I do not play D&D or level based games so I will just assume they will be average soldiers then.

Trained alright, but still cannot match a truly professional army with disipline?

Ah. In normal terms, it means that they've started specialising in their weapons of choice (longspears) and have gone through vigorous training to overcome their racial disadvantages to strength (4th level and up) and constitution.

In other words, they've become trained, professional soldiers, as opposed to disorganised warrior bands or co-opted workers.

New thread. :) http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515486

cool how can we get involved? :)

Any room left for joiners?

Yes, there is room left yet I wish to inquire to what you will be?

Let's see, how far into Valgardian territory do you think I'll be able to establish a base? As in, before patrols get too frequent to conceal magically?

Yes, there is room left yet I wish to inquire to what you will be?

What I will be? Like species? Human, based like the Riders of Rohan. Calvary people, smaller in numbers, but the best calvary in the world.

Delesa;12245183']What I will be? Like species? Human, based like the Riders of Rohan. Calvary people, smaller in numbers, but the best calvary in the world.I like, I like since no has one has gussed my people are based off the Numenoreans. So you are in, but houw would you like to be my ally like Rohan was To Gondor, though my people have slavery the slaves are acutally in a better condition then serfs of other countries.

I like, I like since no has one has gussed my people are based off the Numenoreans.

That was actually my first thought when I read the history, just that instead of coming out of the West, its the North. :P

That was actually my first thought when I read the history, just that instead of coming out of the West, its the North. :PAbout right on the nail.

I like, I like since no has one has gussed my people are based off the Numenoreans. So you are in, but houw would you like to be my ally like Rohan was To Gondor, though my people have slavery the slaves are acutally in a better condition then serfs of other countries.

Do you have a strong Infantry military? If I was going to be accepted, I was going to seek an alliance with a strong Infantry army. But yeah an alliance would be good.

Delesa;12245925']Do you have a strong Infantry military? If I was going to be accepted, I was going to seek an alliance with a strong Infantry army. But yeah an alliance would be good.I am an infantry based army and I do have a sizable cavalry force, but it is not very large and I will need a larger cavarlry force so to continue my expansion.

I am an infantry based army and I do have a sizable cavalry force, but it is not very large and I will need a larger cavarlry force so to continue my expansion.

Exellent we can work out a deal in the RP, I get a fact book up by tomarrow, as well as start posting.

Alright, new thread. Building a citadel in hostile territory. They're relying on their natural aptitude for mining and illusions to hide their base-in-planning.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12245936#post12245936

okay I'm just not sure where I can get involved around here.

Delesa;12245953']Exellent we can work out a deal in the RP, I get a fact book up by tomarrow, as well as start posting.Alright that should work out quite well, though where do you want to be on the mao?

Whos who on the map?

Delesa;12245996']Whos who on the map?I am the big blue nation, the ones on the mainland with the roads and dots in it.

I would like the area north of the yellow, around that lake, bordering the mountains. And would you like someone to do a better map?

Keep my map, just make the nations better as I cannot find my good editing program I made.

Better?

I'm the one outlined in black, bordering directly on the blue.

Delesa;12246070']Better?
:confused:

So it's alright to make a better map?

Keep my map, just make the nations better as I cannot find my good editing program I made.

I don't really understand is what I ment

Delesa;12246100']So it's alright to make a better map?You mean an entirely new map then?

Yeah, giving it a better look, better lines and a legend

Delesa;12246115']Yeah, giving it a better look, better lines and a legendYes, that would be good as that map is one which I used a generator on my computer to make. By the way thank you in advance.:fluffle:

:fluffle:

Eww... it's quite alright, either tomarrow night or thursday.

Delesa;12246124']Eww... it's quite alright, either tomarrow night or thursday.You see I have some hand drawn maps, problem is that they are not vibrant.

Hehe well I'll get on it soon enough

Alright then, have it finished by the time I get back.

*Shackles feet to chair and puts chair in cement.*

hehe

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/seanmyhre/mappt.jpg

Delesa;12249100']http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/seanmyhre/mappt.jpgWell, sadly I cannot free you from the cement or the shacles so have a good day.

Buh? It's a bit hard to see the matchups, and I think my territory has somehow been moved to the grasslands...

which one was you?

Delesa;12249100']http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/seanmyhre/mappt.jpgAlright we will just have a vote who likes my map more. *shakes head*

Well, sadly I cannot free you from the cement or the shacles so have a good day.

god damn it! hehe i did it this morning, i got busy with another thread RP

Well i can put names in and make it larger, i just liek it smaller, so i downsized it at the last moment

*eats a manwich in the backround*

Sorry, I really have to say I prefer the Scandinavian's one.

Delesa: I was the one outlined in black. On the mountains.

Not my manwich!

Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12249341#post12249341)

Sorry, I really have to say I prefer the Scandinavian's one.

Delesa: I was the one outlined in black. On the mountains.

OH if that was you, you have n oland on my map, I didn't add you haha, my bad

Delesa;12249350']Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12249341#post12249341)Good, good you now have now cement on your cement, but you are still shackled to the chair.

*Sigh* have nothing to do. Anyone want to come the Diplomacy Thread?

You can post on my Expansion thread or if you want I will post on the diplomatic thread.

well what's happening in the expansion, how can I get involved?

For now just covert crap as my nation does not view your nation as conquest that would profit them enough. As for the diplomatic thread I have posted there.

Tell me when trouble reaches the islands. I may be forced to make some, my trolls be gettin' a littl' restless mon.

well I suppose I could find away to get involved. The diplomacy would be great for expressing our concerns of being taken by you. I know you said you wouldn't but it makes for good character.

Tell me when trouble reaches the islands. I may be forced to make some, my trolls be gettin' a littl' restless mon.You get a reply in the diplomatic thread the before I feed the island trolls.:)

well I suppose I could find away to get involved. The diplomacy would be great for expressing our concerns of being taken by you. I know you said you wouldn't but it makes for good character.Alright, sound quite good for a sound start.

Good, good you now have now cement on your cement, but you are still shackled to the chair.

God damn it, hehe, any ways the blue outline on my map, the one touching your borders and who ever is the purple is where I would like my land.

How does this look for you: http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=map222em.png

Got room in one of those mountain ranges for some Goblins? :)
Dont matter what other people say, I love the li'l bastards. You cant beat a species thats apparently dedicated to finding new ways of blowing itself up.

Just as a random idea, perhaps the Goblins could occupy that mountain range on the East coast, just south of the Valgardians, serving as a sort of mercenary group working for said kingdom? A kind of mixed subject-state/ally, if you will.

Does that mean anybody could buy up your help?

Hmm... as the two absolute weakest humanoids in DnD, who would win? A goblin or a kobold...

You can't beat a species that's apparently dedicated to finding new ways of blowing itself up.

Perhaps with a species that has a reputation for laying high-level adventurers low?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker's_kobolds

I imagine they would work for anybody but stinkin' hairy Kobolds :P

And who said DnD Goblins?
MTG Goblins = Superior ;)

Goblin Bombs and gliders, baby!

Dnd ones are reptilians and distant relatives of dragons.

I don't know about MTG goblins being superior... Ever heard of the Red Hand of Doom?

Fine, they have scales.
But they still stink.
>_>
<_<

Red Hand of Doom...*insert google search* Bah, Hobgoblins dont count.

Not with appropriate cosmetics :D

Either way, in the first post it did say it was supposed to be constant war. It keeps things interesting - nobody wants to watch five hundred years of peace.

To be honest, Goblins most likely dont care WHO they fight, just as long as they get to stab, shoot, blow up, or otherwise cause bodily harm to SOMETHING.
Kobolds just seem like natural enemies for them though :P

Anyway, it'll be fun to experiment with 'civilized' Goblins, they tend to show up every now and then in various books and other mediums. Goblin Pikemen were a favorite of mine :P
'Course nothing beats the ol' Goblin combat gem, "Run down the hill screaming at the top of your lungs while throwing everything you have at whoever happens to be in front of you, then jumping on the nearest target and biting, scratching and stabbing whatever presents itself."
:P

How does this look for you: http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=map222em.png

Perfect

I'd like to note that you've put Delesa's factbook in the 'RP threads' section.

I'm interested in joining this, is there any room left?

I'm interested in joining this, is there any room left?Yeap, there is still a little room left open for you.:D

*poke*
What about me?

*poke*
What about me?Alright, yet before you do anything tell me what area you want and make a factbook.

The little chunk of mountain on the west coast, south of Valgard and north of that little river.

Working on the factbook.

So what are you going to be dwarves, kinda of, and also how large do you want to be?

Dont call a Goblin a dwarf if you value your knees ;)

Anyway, the area between your border and the river will be fine. I'll mostly be living under it, so the environment doesnt matter much :PYou know what would be fun is a fallen Imperial Valgardian has taken over the goblins, under the guise of a great dark Lord, and is using them to try and create an empire where everyone is brutally enslaved and the goblins are his police force.:p

Dont call a Goblin a dwarf if you value your knees ;)

Anyway, the area between your border and the river will be fine. I'll mostly be living under it, so the environment doesnt matter much :P

Meh - he'd be downed by fully progressed characters rather quickly. And since these are MTG goblins, and not DnD goblins, I doubt they'd take kindly to some overlord trying to take them over.

I was thinking that the Goblins had made a treaty with the Valgardian to act as a sort of mercenary force in exchange for not being conqoured, after a long and nasty war of course.
Basically, both sides decided that neither of them could win easily, the Goblins couldnt get a big enough army to do serious damage to the Valgardians, and the Valgardians were suffering from the constant guerilla warfare used by the Goblins.

And like Hakurabi said, MTG Goblins mostly live in a state of anarchy, you get into office in trial-by-combat and usually dont last long unless your a real bastard.

I was thinking that the Goblins had made a treaty with the Valgardian to act as a sort of mercenary force in exchange for not being conqoured, after a long and nasty war of course.
Basically, both sides decided that neither of them could win easily, the Goblins couldnt get a big enough army to do serious damage to the Valgardians, and the Valgardians were suffering from the constant guerilla warfare used by the Goblins.

And like Hakurabi said, MTG Goblins mostly live in a state of anarchy, you get into office in trial-by-combat and usually dont last long unless your a real bastard.Alright sounds good as I could use this treaty to send you guys to deals with the Kobolds in the caves, but though a fallen Valgardian is rather nasty fighter who would kill just about anyone who gets in his way and can use his blood inherited powers to kill nearly any being in this world.

We could include the fallen Valgardian as a secondary nation, sort of, within mine. I could have him launch raids against both of us.Nay, what about he is the only non-Goblin tribal leader, you know controlling a border tribe, and he does whatever the hell he wants to as all he really wants is power.:eek:

We could include the fallen Valgardian as a secondary nation, sort of, within mine. I could have him launch raids against both of us.

Nice. A good opportunity to deploy chamber agent teams. Not to mention there's always the possibility of swinging their allegiance.

With regards to a Fallen Valgardian:

In hand to hand combat that is. Any special character casters could stop one dead in their tracks. Literally, not figuratively.

Stupid time warp. Good idea with the warlord.

Nice. A good opportunity to deploy chamber agent teams. Not to mention there's always the possibility of swinging their allegiance.

With regards to a Fallen Valgardian:

In hand to hand combat that is. Any special character casters could stop one dead in their tracks. Literally, not figuratively.Nope, Imperial Valgardians are the most powerful of my race and well able to kill nearly your lowly Kobolds, even your chasters, as they posses power any less of that of the Emperor.

The Valgardian Imperial line long ago made a pact with the gods so that they could have the foresight and strength to save their people. So each Imperial Valgardian is born with the ability to see the immediate effects of their actions and also the strength to lead their people and the power to overcome their enemies. Yet, an Imperial Valgardian can quite destroy a boat by themselves, the speed to slice through any enemy, and the ability to harness magic to bring ruin to enemy forces.

Give us a run down of their power other than 'arbitarily powerful'. I may have to advance Vaikwur to epic levels. If they're that insanely powerful elemental summoning may have to become an option, given that they're only CR 11 at the absolute highest (that means they could be defeated by maybe ten valgardian rangers).

Looks like Im going to need a LOT of Goblins, then.To note Imperial Valgardians only number four dozen about.

Looks like Im going to need a LOT of Goblins, then.

Okay then, looks like I'll need to advance my characters into the epic levels. Watch out - city busters ahead.

Believe me, with the fact that you can deploy on-the-spot specials with the power to sweep away any of my current characters puts them in the epics - my named, developed specials are going to be advanced and further backstory added to make them a match for Imperials.

They're going to be in the HIGH epics.

Okay then, looks like I'll need to advance my characters into the epic levels. Watch out - city busters ahead.

Believe me, with the fact that you can deploy on-the-spot specials with the power to sweep away any of my current characters puts them in the epics - my named, developed specials are going to be advanced and further backstory added to make them a match for Imperials.

They're going to be in the HIGH epics.Now for example if you sticked to the country and the not the five major cities then there would not be a problem. You see there are only about two hundred of those Rangers stationed around the big cites. As well, you could have used a less then strange one. Also, I do not use Imperials in battle. As well, you cannot just create one that powerful as I only have my Imperial Valgardians so as to explain how one line maintains rule over the other Valgardaisn.

I guess I should just be glad that the Goblin government is so fluid. Killing any given Goblin official will just result in somebody else stepping into his shoes...sandals...whatever.
Im not sure what I'll do for charecters. Goblins seem to value intelligence over strength, and arent very magical (except in a few very rare cases, who are mostly insane and thus dont make good long-term charecters :P). But even a genius cant really do much about getting blown up in a nuclear explosion except not be there...which is difficult when said nuclear weapon is deployed from somebodies finger.

This thread is definitly emit-ing a bit of xodorap.

Ah, but this presents the problem of an unwinnable war. My specials are supposed to be of legendary-grade already - if they could not hold a match to the Imperials, then I have no possiblity for winning the war.

I think a parallel can be drawn between chamber agents and rangers, in quality terms.

I don't intend to use my characters in battles very often, but even so, should you advance far enough to threaten the alliance's existence, then they would emerge and more likely than not wreak bloody havoc before going down. A similar situation would occur if I managed to force the Valgardians back to their main cities - the Imperials are hardly going to lounge around while their kingdom is falling apart around them.

Someone who is so individually powerful that neither sword, stealth nor spell can touch them means you've won already, since I can never defeat you.

At the very least this means I'm advancing them into low epics.

A good rule, a special character can only fight in their true power agaisnt another special character and no special characters can defeat, for example, 5,000 soldiers.

Remember I also have the status of Supreme God Mod for this.;)

Oh yeah, go now my Giant Killer Monks.

Alright, that sounds fair.

Although the 5,000 soldier thing is assuming they don't do anything stupid. If I cast a prismatic wall in front of your army, no marching them all straight through and calling it overpowered :p

What about 100? ;)
Guts took on 100 and came out alright...well...not alright but...alive...kind of. :P

You know, I think restricting magical constructs by requiring the sacrifice of the mage's soul is kind of pointless, given that it's really a flavour block more than anything.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12257047#post12257047

Factbook up, yo g-dawg wiki wiki etc.

Actually, now that I think of it, do magical constructs need to be constructed completely by the one person?

I'm still working on my factbook, but I was wondering if I could claim this region near the top left corner of the map.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Vampirion/Territory.jpg

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12257047#post12257047

Factbook up, yo g-dawg wiki wiki etc.Cut you population in half and we got a deal.;)

Would ~65,000,000 be acceptable?
Thats the total population of ALL of the various Goblin tribes, the 'government' only really has authority over maybe 2,000,000 or so.

Would ~65,000,000 be acceptable?
Thats the total population of ALL of the various Goblin tribes, the 'government' only really has authority over maybe 2,000,000 or so.Alright, remember goblins are lambs to the slaughter basically when facing other armies as they are unorganized, less skilled, and less disipline then carrer soldiers.

That depends on the Goblins, I mentioned the Iron Guard and Sun Corps, although theyre much smaller than regular armies (I would say 5-7,000 each, at most). And an unorganized army isnt always a disadvantage :)

EDIT:
Factbook updated

Again, do constructs need to be done completely by a single person?

Actually, now that I think of it, do magical constructs need to be constructed completely by the one person?It can made by quite a few ones, but one completed they will lose their lifes.

That depends on the Goblins, I mentioned the Iron Guard and Sun Corps, although theyre much smaller than regular armies (I would say 5-7,000 each, at most). And an unorganized army isnt always a disadvantage :)

EDIT:
Factbook updated*Shakes head*

So ALL the creators lose their lives? Or just the one who completes it?