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Axis Nova
15-01-2007, 06:23
Use this thread to discuss any OOC issues pertaining to stuff involving Axis Nova and/or Hataria. 'Nuff said. Please try to keep it civil.
Asgarnieu
15-01-2007, 20:49
Nobody?
Axis Nova
17-01-2007, 15:26
Just as a note, Asgarnieu, radar stealthing will generally reduce your radar signature, not eliminate it completely. Active radar cancellation techologies tend to be exclusively PMT and VERY expensive to produce and deploy, and furthermore, the two known types each have their own drawbacks: plasma stealth basically lights the aircraft up like a christmas tree, and metamaterials, in addition to being exceptionally difficult and expensive to produce, get damaged by water, so the aircraft in question will require incredible amounts of maintenance and have it's stealth characteristics likely damaged whenever it is near bodies of water.
The Aeson
17-01-2007, 16:10
Can anyone provide a link to this preemptive Asgarnian (sp?) strike on Hataria?
Axis Nova
17-01-2007, 16:15
Can anyone provide a link to this preemptive Asgarnian (sp?) strike on Hataria?

Use of tactical nuclear weapons by As (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12207030&postcount=26)

Use of godrods on civilian targets by As (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12207093&postcount=16)

Attempted strategic first strike by Xharn (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12207129&postcount=17)
The Aeson
17-01-2007, 21:10
Nuclear depth charges? That's your big complaint? Yeesh.
Axis Nova
17-01-2007, 21:43
Nuclear depth charges? That's your big complaint? Yeesh.

A nuke is a nuke is a nuke. Though ICly I only know about the satellite launch and godrods.
Asgarnieu
18-01-2007, 02:16
Honestly, you are seriously complaining about nuclear depth charges. There is a huge difference between a tactical nuclear weapon and a nuclear depth charge. There.
Hurtful Thoughts
18-01-2007, 03:49
This is an attack:
On a lighthearted note:
IC:

The first replacement Hurtian satallite started chucking destroyed Hurtian satallites out of orbit, one of the ground operators had witnessed the attacks on Asgarnieu, and 'retaliated' by shoving a particular dissabled satalite, loaded with dozens of unused godrods, into the masses of cheering Hatarians.

It would look like a normal uncontroled re-entry of a dissabled piece of space junk, often neglected during, and after a conflict, until one lands on someone's head...

In the eventuality that the Hatarians figure out what caused the damage, the Hurtian government was prepared to claim (truthfully) that it was caused by a defective satallite; and if they noted the pressence of the Hurtian drone, they would cite a program error in the software used to calculate trajectories, and that the junk was intended to hit the Atlantic Ocean, more than 5 miles from your coast, since they believed they needed a new coral reef to cheer them up, and it was human/catalouge error which caused it to be a fully loaded godrod launcher...

OOC: this is to solve the massive space junk problem NS has...
And in PROHT, shoving junk out of orbit and into a controled re-entry is SOP, since we have no other means of safely brining them to Earth...
And with all the dissabled satallites between Hataria, PROHT, Emporer Pudu, the Parthians, Kroanodo, and Wanderjar's many space battles, yeah, I've got plenty of FREE unused ammo...
Like finding trash in a garbage can... I'm bound to find something heavy and hard enough to kill something if I throw it hard enough...

This is not a response, in fact, if anything, it is an OOC excuse:
Any Attack on China would be a Useless attack. After The Ryu no Shogun War, Hataria made a Defenseive Line known as the Neherenia Line. Tons of Trenches, Barb wire, Anti-Air Weapons, Forts, Artillery and other weapons that would slow a Invasion to a stop before it could even step on Chinese soil.

The Hatarians also has Ships patroling The Sea of Japan, The East China Sea and The South China Sea. over 5,000,000 Imperial Troops armed with Weapons from Axis Nova and thousands of Planes.

The Coast was soo Fortified that no Invader would want to land. Anti-air Weapons were all over The place and The Chinese Colonial Gaurd was ready for action.

China was fully Behind the Copper Curtin that surounded Hataria, it's Colonies, and Axis Nova.
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And these are moot because of the ever constant cleaning drone of PROHT:
To all nations whom may consider employing anti-satellite warfare in the southern hemisphear:

The continueing violence in the atmosphear is a disturbance to foundation's space station initiative. debri and caseing are causeing us damage. In relization that our people have just set foot in the lands above, we wish not to enter conflict with such dominate nations of the above worlds and comprimise our new above ground territorys.

If anti-satellite wepons continue to be utlized, in a manner which is damageing to foundation space craft in the sothern hemisphear, deep-earth suberterrian bombs will be mobalized towards the communications controling these bothersum weapons.

We warn that we control the underworld. if our arctic communications center is disrupted at all, or our craft attacked, we will Give participateing nations the frequency and detonation codes for nuclear fusion bomb drones waiting deep under their enemys soil.

-001
Primary intelligence network of Foundation 001Ignored for "OH MY FREEKIN GODMODING!"
Axis Nova
18-01-2007, 15:37
Honestly, you are seriously complaining about nuclear depth charges. There is a huge difference between a tactical nuclear weapon and a nuclear depth charge. There.

If your government is so willing to use tac nukes at the drop of a hat, what's to prevent anyone from assuming that it will use strategic nukes easily as casually?
The Transylvania
18-01-2007, 21:06
(OOC: just as a reminder, tranny, I still have you on ignore)

OOC: Can you grow up? It’s Trans and everybody knows that. You know. The way you’re saying it, you can get yourself into trouble as you’re saying that to piss me off. And thank Hataria for starting war with my ally, in which caused me to un-ignore him and his allies.

I’m going to link a thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=494080

AN, you know I don’t like that word as you have called me Trans before you got mad at me because I wasn‘t going role-play with you after the Hatarian war was over. I wasn’t going to go with your WMD use because they just make role-plays suck. Back on track, you know that that word upsets me and you’re doing the same thing as Xeno was doing. You’re trying to piss me off and flame you, in which I’m not going to do. You’re just making yourself look bad.
Hataria
18-01-2007, 23:13
Tag for later
Axis Nova
18-01-2007, 23:31
wow you want to declare war? why dont you rename yourself to "osama bin laden II?

Because Axis Nova is run by a shadowy council called the Euphorate, not some old fart in a cave wearing a turban.
The Aeson
18-01-2007, 23:33
Because Axis Nova is run by a shadowy council called the Euphorate, not some old fart in a cave wearing a turban.

Not to worry, he's been reported.
Axis Nova
18-01-2007, 23:40
Not to worry, he's been reported.

Whoops, didn't read moderation. And here I was priding myself on being able to easily detect gimmicks. >_>;
The Transylvania
19-01-2007, 03:47
The wars are on hold because of the peace talks. I said wars because there are three of them that Hataria is in.
Asgarnieu
19-01-2007, 03:48
The war is winding down, why don't we just go back to ignoring the "lesser" nations like before the war?
Hataria
19-01-2007, 03:51
The wars are on hold because of the peace talks. I said wars because there are three of them that Hataria is in.

It is just one War.
The Transylvania
19-01-2007, 04:11
It is just one War.

Well, one big war with multiple combat zones then. You have your states of war with Asgarnieu and Xharn, two zones that you will attack. Then you got the area that started it all, the war for Morocco. I’ll say that it’s three wars, not one single war like any of the world wars.
Asgarnieu
19-01-2007, 04:44
Well, one big war with multiple combat zones then. You have your states of war with Asgarnieu and Xharn, two zones that you will attack. Then you got the area that started it all, the war for Morocco. I’ll say that it’s three wars, not one single war like any of the world wars.

It's true; however the wars, while different, all come back to the same point...
Hurtful Thoughts
19-01-2007, 07:10
So, since I wasn't invited to the festivities of the mediated negotiations, can I continue screwing around with Hat's men with my 8 men and a 'truck'?
Axis Nova
19-01-2007, 09:44
So, since I wasn't invited to the festivities of the mediated negotiations, can I continue screwing around with Hat's men with my 8 men and a 'truck'?

Why not? No one knows they're there IC after all.
Hurtful Thoughts
19-01-2007, 22:52
Why not? No one knows they're there IC after all.

Hmm, I did put 'truck' in parenthesis... meaning it most likely isn't truck...

And 8 guys and a 'truck' can do considerable damage...
Just ask Alidor/Ironcia... Or Blackhelm...

Hmmm, my RPs are starting to repeat themselves...better hope this one turns out better...

I guess the squad leader would be good ol' Sgt Major Mendez... Or was it Gorbechev?
No wait, Gorby was Army personel, not Marine Raider material... (this is their third RP in which they are expected to see combat in, making them my longest living characters...)
Axis Nova
20-01-2007, 04:06
By the way, just as a reminder to the people deploying assorted special ops types to Morocco: you're rather overestimating their abilities if you think a few guys with small arms are going to be able to do much of anything to seriously impede a major military force except by luck.
Hataria
20-01-2007, 04:33
Asgarnieu: You also Forget that if I capture your SpecOp Guys, I will Find out they are not Arab and you also forget that If I find out they are yours, It will end The cease fire.

I will give you time to think.
Hurtful Thoughts
20-01-2007, 04:37
By the way, just as a reminder to the people deploying assorted special ops types to Morocco: you're rather overestimating their abilities if you think a few guys with small arms are going to be able to do much of anything to seriously impede a major military force except by luck.

And you seriusly underestimate what a well aimed $15 box of ammo can do to a nation's government in 15 seconds or less...

As you'll note, Griffencrest was killed by a single lonely bullet, not a nuke-spam-fest...

And trust me, Griffencrest had some rather nifty security, yours is crappy in comparrison...
And besides, dead men tell no tales...
Axis Nova
20-01-2007, 05:32
And you seriusly underestimate what a well aimed $15 box of ammo can do to a nation's government in 15 seconds or less...

As you'll note, Griffencrest was killed by a single lonely bullet, not a nuke-spam-fest...

And trust me, Griffencrest had some rather nifty security, yours is crappy in comparrison...
And besides, dead men tell no tales...

As you don't know what my security consists of, you're not really qualified to comment on it.
Hurtful Thoughts
20-01-2007, 08:34
As you don't know what my security consists of, you're not really qualified to comment on it.

That is because you haven't really posted any... So I can assume yours is average, while I know Griffencrest himself was given considerably better than average protection, it still did't save him...*

*Though 3 things look wrong concerning griffy's death...

And it als depends on what you imply when reffering to your security.
Security of high ranking officials? Border patrol? MAD?

I'll also note that former members of the Wanderjar's GSG-9 were on Griffy's payroll...
As his own security advisor no less...
Axis Nova
20-01-2007, 14:34
I'm only providing actual security for the resources I currently have in the country. I havn't posted about it because there is no reason to yet-- no one has gone and tried to mess with the engineering corps I have deployed there at the moment. Hataria's stuff is more or less his problem, though I do have a few radar aerostats over the country providing radar coverage as usual.

I don't mind telling you this OOC, you'll be able to see quite a few Sand Devil class land battleships in the southern part of Morocco and in the northwestern part of the Sahara with any recon sats you manage to get over the area (my SDI system hasn't been going after Hurtful Thoughts satellites due to them not actually being hostile thus far, but the orbit over that area is going to be rather junked up for a little while due to the ongoing conflict up there).
Asgarnieu
20-01-2007, 20:07
Hataria: You don't seem to understand, If they are captured, they will use Hydrogen Cyanide pills to kill themselves. They also are not white. They are of arab descent, that is why they were chosen for the mission...
Axis Nova
20-01-2007, 20:50
Finding Asgarnieuian nationals shouldn't be a big surprise anyways given the current state of hostilities.
Hurtful Thoughts
20-01-2007, 23:22
I'm only providing actual security for the resources I currently have in the country. I havn't posted about it because there is no reason to yet-- no one has gone and tried to mess with the engineering corps I have deployed there at the moment. Hataria's stuff is more or less his problem, though I do have a few radar aerostats over the country providing radar coverage as usual.

I don't mind telling you this OOC, you'll be able to see quite a few Sand Devil class land battleships in the southern part of Morocco and in the northwestern part of the Sahara with any recon sats you manage to get over the area (my SDI system hasn't been going after Hurtful Thoughts satellites due to them not actually being hostile thus far, but the orbit over that area is going to be rather junked up for a little while due to the ongoing conflict up there).

How can I infiltrate your defenses and 'mess with you' if you won't show what your defenses are?

It's the chicken and the egg... Nobody posts defenses cause nobody is attacking them, and nobody is attacking them cause they don't know what is being defended (and consequently, what isn't).

My satallites are destroyed due to a nuclear EMP earlier... if you are hostile to them, you would be attacking space trash, though I do have some satallites back up cleaning up the space war mess by throwing everything earthside... including damaged godrod launchers... One of which I somewhat intentionally shoved in Hataria's direction 'by mistake'.

Even IF they didn't have godrods, the nuclear cores from certain satallites would undoubtedly survive re-entry... Hurtian satallites are tin cans that the occasional bit of small debris manages to hit land (no bigger than a dog's head)... I can't say the same for the construction of anyone else's military and communication satallites.
Asgarnieu
20-01-2007, 23:33
Axis: Yes it should! We aren't even in the area. We pulled out of both fronts on the news of the Peace Talks.
Axis Nova
21-01-2007, 00:01
How can I infiltrate your defenses and 'mess with you' if you won't show what your defenses are?

It's the chicken and the egg... Nobody posts defenses cause nobody is attacking them, and nobody is attacking them cause they don't know what is being defended (and consequently, what isn't).

My satallites are destroyed due to a nuclear EMP earlier... if you are hostile to them, you would be attacking space trash, though I do have some satallites back up cleaning up the space war mess by throwing everything earthside... including damaged godrod launchers... One of which I somewhat intentionally shoved in Hataria's direction 'by mistake'.

Even IF they didn't have godrods, the nuclear cores from certain satallites would undoubtedly survive re-entry... Hurtian satallites are tin cans that the occasional bit of small debris manages to hit land (no bigger than a dog's head)... I can't say the same for the construction of anyone else's military and communication satallites.

You find out what's there by RPing having your guys go out and take a look-see at something interesting with binoculars or something, then working from there-- they could also follow convoys and lone Axis Novan vehicles and so forth to see where they're going. I prefer to make people RP what they're doing to find out about my forces and recon and stuff since I don't like just listing what I'm bringing and then having people bring x+1.
Hurtful Thoughts
21-01-2007, 02:14
You find out what's there by RPing having your guys go out and take a look-see at something interesting with binoculars or something, then working from there-- they could also follow convoys and lone Axis Novan vehicles and so forth to see where they're going. I prefer to make people RP what they're doing to find out about my forces and recon and stuff since I don't like just listing what I'm bringing and then having people bring x+1.

I already sent people, you already OOCly know that I'm only sending 12 people at most, and thatAsg is only sending about a platoon at most...

And I'd rather not take another step further until I know the following:
What squad Asg's Special forces plan to link up with.
AND
Whether or not I'll wake up on a land mine...

As I really don't care to have already detailed everything that I'm sending into the fight (already done that), and have the other team say they have just enough forces wherever I go to wipe me out in those vital 15 seconds...

And then they refuse to tell me what I'm up against, while at the same time telling me to take another step forward before you ICly or even OOCly give any information on what I'd be able to see.

Eventually, if I follow your suggestions, I might very well end up in an ambush after somehow not noticing a whole division flank my rear and kill my men while they sleep...

We already have our numbers figured out, and roughly were we are in relation to each other, but we have absolutely NO CLUE OOCLY what is 6" in front of our noses...

It is pretty nice to assume we didn't just walk over a division of sleeping MPs on border patrol...

I just want to know what is on the front lines... I don't care what is in resserve... Except how many shiploads of troops you sent... then calculate resserve strength by subtracting known strengths and estimated enemy casaulties... Local (tactical) radio chatter could also inform my men of what/how many divisions are in the area...
Axis Nova
21-01-2007, 14:19
Most of my stuff is in the southern part of Morocco and the northern part of the Western Sahara, as sand and soft ground are the only suitable terrain for Sand Devil (and Sand Crab) deployment in the first place. Hataria's stuff, from reading the threads, would appear to be concentrated around major cities and so forth for the most part.
The Aeson
23-01-2007, 00:22
So, Hataria, any valid reason to ignore Trans?
The Transylvania
23-01-2007, 00:26
I would like to know that answer, too. I have a feeling it is because AN still ignores me and Hat can't fight without him.

Off topic, ever figure out what you’re going to post as Kologk?
The Transylvania
23-01-2007, 01:47
Is Hat going to answer the reason behind the ignore? Everybody wants to know the reason. Is it the same thing why AN is ignore because I was rude with him over AIM? He can get over that because he was pulling my tail for to long and I got tried of it.

Aeson, I want to role-play and the Kologk thread is on hold until you post. Please post.
Asgarnieu
23-01-2007, 02:15
Oh, boo-hoo. AN and Hataria need to grow up...
The Transylvania
23-01-2007, 02:30
Good one, I was even going to hire some mercs from Doomingsland to aid us in this fight. Even Doom was going to do it, but Hat ignored me. Now, I got to find somewhere else that I need mercs at.
Hurtful Thoughts
23-01-2007, 03:59
Come on...

Just hire some of my crazy gun toters, they'll work for free...

Hence no mesy paper trail...
Especially since he's ignoring you and I'm not...
And he isn't ignoring me... yet...
The Transylvania
23-01-2007, 04:21
Still if he is ignoring me, then he will ignore everything I do like hiring mercs and etc. I wanted to fight, damn it.

Guys, this sounds wrong, but stop role-playing with him until he gives the reason or ignoring me. Is it because my post in the thread. There’s nothing wrong with it.
Hurtful Thoughts
23-01-2007, 04:33
Still if he is ignoring me, then he will ignore everything I do like hiring mercs and etc. I wanted to fight, damn it.

Guys, this sounds wrong, but stop role-playing with him until he gives the reason or ignoring me. Is it because my post in the thread. There’s nothing wrong with it.

I think Hat fell asleep and won't get back online...

Till then, I guess I could keep advancing, and advancing, and advancing...

Eventually I'll get Morocco back, or entise Hat to do something, and ultamately lift his UBER IGNORE-SHIELDS.

Don't those things have a limited duty cycle or something? Eventually those things have to burn out...
Axis Nova
23-01-2007, 04:42
Oh, boo-hoo. AN and Hataria need to grow up...

I don't take kindly to being sworn at when I'm trying to have a civil conversation. The ignore stays until either Transy's sincere repentance, or the heat death of the universe-- whichever comes first.

By the way, in the future, can we please try to make negotiation threads a bit less of a three-ring circus? I've enjoyed it, for the most part, but people need to realize that you're supposed to be calm, polite, and dignified for the most part at such things. (yes, I realize I kinda broke that when my ambassador went off at Clandonia's, but my country barely recognizes Clandonia Prime as more than bandits anyways, so to hear him bandy words about like he's a major power got under his skin more than a little.)
The Transylvania
23-01-2007, 19:55
I can’t help it if you can’t take a few curse words from somebody that you was pulling his tail for a month. You and Hat were just messing around with me. I got tried of it then when you said you were going to use enough WMDs to kill 50% of pop. That was the strike against you because right before you said that, I told you I was okay about you coming after the Hatarian war was fine as long there was not WMD.

So…you’re not getting ‘I’m sorry’ from me because you’re the reason I blew up on you and were sworn at.

Xharn is my ally, anybody attacks him. I’m going to help him. Attack him in Morocco, I’m going to help. Unless Hat losses an ally, too.

By the way, in the future, can we please try to make negotiation threads a bit less of a three-ring circus? I've enjoyed it, for the most part, but people need to realize that you're supposed to be calm, polite, and dignified for the most part at such things. (yes, I realize I kinda broke that when my ambassador went off at Clandonia's, but my country barely recognizes Clandonia Prime as more than bandits anyways, so to hear him bandy words about like he's a major power got under his skin more than a little.)

I think you need to talk to Hat about all of that. His side was the one turning the thing into a three-ring circus.
The Transylvania
23-01-2007, 20:31
Hey guys, I just thought of something. Because of the WMD use from AN and Hat, everybody can use WMD on them as it will not be seen as first strike like Hat’s and AN’s attack. Let’s see, if they can take their own attacks like real role-players like Blub did.
Questers
23-01-2007, 20:41
@Blub
two Iowas would turn slightly north, elevate
their main 21 inch guns and

OOC: You can't retrofit an Iowa with 21" guns. That's plain silly, you'd probably only get 2 barrels.

The enemy battleship was not targeted. Captain Bungle wanted to go after the Shogun himself, with the two Iowas.

You know you wouldn't stand a chance, right, considering he modelled it after the Hood, and even if it is Hatarian and probably made out of rice paper you won't be able to sink something that size with two Iowas.

You really should have brought some carriers along. The terrain of the Phillipines didn't save the Japanese, and if you don't have air superiority, its not going to save you.

Also, 50 missiles... that's very little. If you have strike craft in range from the mainland you'd be better atritting Hataria via constant air strikes and sub attacks on his carriers until he reaches the mainland, at which point you could engage him with your surface fleet. I suppose the former is still possible...
Hataria
23-01-2007, 20:42
To Blub: I will Ignore your Attack Against my Fleet, since it was a Mistake, but You can start alover again, Because unlike some RPs (namely Trans) you have Chops.
Blub Empire
23-01-2007, 20:44
Questers:

1.) I'll refit my ships however I want.

2.) Maybe the Blubs don't have carriers? Or.. maybe they're busy doing something else.

3.) As for missiles.. I'm not a number wanker who says "Har har I launch 394757557573893834 missiles at u!11 then i shoot u w/ my gunz from 387 battleships!1"

4.) The engagement won't begin until Hataria reaches the Philippines.
Blub Empire
23-01-2007, 20:45
To Blub: I will Ignore your Attack Against my Fleet, since it was a Mistake, but You can start alover again, Because unlike some RPs (namely Trans) you have Chops.

Well.. your fleet is safe as far as I'm concerned until they get to the Philippines. Were you just giving me a chance to reply before you got there? If so.. there's no need.

I need you to post your fleet arriving there.. and then I can make my response to it, and Axis's godrods.
The Transylvania
23-01-2007, 20:46
To Blub: I will Ignore your Attack Against my Fleet, since it was a Mistake, but You can start alover again, Because unlike some RPs (namely Trans) you have Chops.

Hat, watch what you say about me. At else, I didn’t ignore you for no reason. Unless your reason is that you can't fight without AN at your side.
Axis Nova
23-01-2007, 20:46
By the way, Blub, unless it becomes neccesary, I don't plan to deploy anything to actually invade your country, though I may occupy the Philippines to keep you out of there.

Also, why would a nation consisting of things without hands use Left hand as an operation name? XD
Questers
23-01-2007, 20:47
Questers:

1.) I'll refit my ships however I want.

2.) Maybe the Blubs don't have carriers? Or.. maybe they're busy doing something else.

3.) As for missiles.. I'm not a number wanker who says "Har har I launch 394757557573893834 missiles at u!11 then i shoot u w/ my gunz from 387 battleships!1"

4.) The engagement won't begin until Hataria reaches the Philippines.

1.) OK? I didn't say you couldn't. I said it was downright silly in that there's little to no benefit in doing it.

2.) lol omg surprise atk

3.) You don't have to be a number wanker to launch a decent number of missiles.
Blub Empire
23-01-2007, 20:48
If anything bothers me.. it's these constant satellite attacks. Being attacked via satellite by Hataria is one thing.. but the whole AN thing is very unecessary and annoying. I'm already outnumbered in the fleet-on-fleet part. >.>
Blub Empire
23-01-2007, 20:49
1.) OK? I didn't say you couldn't. I said it was downright silly in that there's little to no benefit in doing it.

2.) lol omg surprise atk

3.) You don't have to be a number wanker to launch a decent number of missiles.

1.) The Blubs like big boomy things. It's more of a roleplaying aspect.

2.) ... >.> Meh.

3.) That was just an opening volley to see what kind of CIWS or other defenses they might have. The Iowa carries, I think.. 32 ASMs each, plus the Arleigh Burkes and Ticonderogas. A sensible commander won't launch ALL their missiles at once. >.<
The Transylvania
23-01-2007, 20:51
If anything bothers me.. it's these constant satellite attacks. Being attacked via satellite by Hataria is one thing.. but the whole AN thing is very unecessary and annoying. I'm already outnumbered in the fleet-on-fleet part. >.>

It’s the way Hat and AN do things. AN wanted to kill 50% of my pop before he even send a single war airship towards my nation.
Hataria
23-01-2007, 20:51
Say, Blub, do you own The Philippines?
Clandonia Prime
23-01-2007, 20:51
Hataria and his magical god rod satellites that blow up seem a bit wanky, that must be costly blowing up 200 satellites all the time.
Axis Nova
23-01-2007, 20:52
Well, since I have no blue water navy other than some I-Type class battleships (and by some I mean, like, 24 or so, counting the prototypes), my options for interdicting sea fleets are limited. My options are pretty much FOBS Thor, drop a big sphere of iron from the resource sat, or dispatch an air fleet to attack said fleet at long range with missiles. I could also theoretically fire using the big linear cannons on Peacekeeper Heaven, but there is no real way to guess someone's course DAYS in advance.

Given the subsonic transit speed of my airships, it is almost always more viable to use FOBS Thor, though, given orbit is going to be considerably junked up for a bit due to all the fire that's been exchanged between my SDI system, Xharn's satellites, and As's sats, as well as your own ASATs, I expect more than half of those FOBS Thor packs to run into something and get munged.
Questers
23-01-2007, 20:52
1.) The Blubs like big boomy things. It's more of a roleplaying aspect.

2.) ... >.> Meh.

3.) That was just an opening volley to see what kind of CIWS or other defenses they might have. The Iowa carries, I think.. 32 ASMs each, plus the Arleigh Burkes and Ticonderogas. A sensible commander won't launch ALL their missiles at once. >.<

1.) Well so do I, but there are some things that just don't work. Besides, 9 16" guns are louder than 2 21" <.<

2.) lol

3.) Well, when it comes round to the actual battle, testing the enemies defences with small numbers of missiles isn't a credible test because its not showing how they react under pressure of numbers. Of course a sensible commander won't launch all their missiles at once, but they'll aim to knock out as much of the enemy's strike options before the enemy can use them.
Blub Empire
23-01-2007, 20:54
Say, Blub, do you own The Philippines?

No, I don't own anything other than my little Blubland landmass. >.<

I also need you to post in the main thread what your fleet is doing.. like, when it enters the Philippines, so I can move/alter my post accordingly.
Blub Empire
23-01-2007, 20:57
1.) The Blubs like big boomy things. It's more of a roleplaying aspect.

2.) ... >.> Meh.

3.) That was just an opening volley to see what kind of CIWS or other defenses they might have. The Iowa carries, I think.. 32 ASMs each, plus the Arleigh Burkes and Ticonderogas. A sensible commander won't launch ALL their missiles at once. >.<

1.) Well so do I, but there are some things that just don't work. Besides, 9 16" guns are louder than 2 21" <.<

2.) lol

3.) Well, when it comes round to the actual battle, testing the enemies defences with small numbers of missiles isn't a credible test because its not showing how they react under pressure of numbers. Of course a sensible commander won't launch all their missiles at once, but they'll aim to knock out as much of the enemy's strike options before the enemy can use them.

1.) I have my reasons. >.> They're dual mounts, besides. Six guns total, two front turrets and one rear turret.

2. ) >.>

3.) How many MT wars have you seen the Blubs in? Just one other small skirmish involving paratroopers. Their naval tactics are from a book that hasn't been tested. As things progress, then tactics can evolve. Besides.. like I said before, most of what the Blubs do.. has a reason.
Questers
23-01-2007, 21:04
1.) I really do think they'd be too heavy. The Super-Yamato would be around the same size as the Iowa and carry 3xII 20.1" (not 21" as some read it) guns, but nevermind.

2.) ^_~

3.) *Shrug* I suppose you have a point. We'll just have to see.

I'm still debating whether I should bother sending some carriers over, I wanna test out my new naval air service <.<
The Transylvania
23-01-2007, 21:08
With them ignoring me for no real reason but that I was rude to AN over AIM (At else, I didn‘t try to make fun of him on the NS draft room), your help will be need with your navy power, Questers.
Hataria
23-01-2007, 21:09
1.) I have my reasons. >.> They're dual mounts, besides. Six guns total, two front turrets and one rear turret.

2. ) >.>

3.) How many MT wars have you seen the Blubs in? Just one other small skirmish involving paratroopers. Their naval tactics are from a book that hasn't been tested. As things progress, then tactics can evolve. Besides.. like I said before, most of what the Blubs do.. has a reason.


Well, you are about to face a Nation that, even though hasn't won a War since The Very Small Island War, has a Larger Army (40,000,000 Ground Troops, with logictis) and a Large Navy (12,000 Ships in all).

and Hatarian Ships have Anti-Aircraft Weapons, just tp let you know
Blub Empire
23-01-2007, 21:09
Well, the Blub refit uses a different type of armor as opposed to slabs of steel. There's a very large weight reduction overall, which allows for more turret machinery weight and armoring. The guns are mounted on "floating" machinery that greatly reduces the recoil of the weapons. Between the improved hydrolics and the mountings, I don't see much of a problem in putting in the big guns.

Everyone on here acts like their military has the best-ever tactics and commanders and such.. when they've never even fought a real war before. Maybe I'm one of the few who, knowing the Blubs don't have much experience.. need to actually roleplay some of the evolution of their military. >.<

Besides.. everyone is yelling at me about carriers. I can't say too much.. without giving something away.
Blub Empire
23-01-2007, 21:12
Well, you are about to face a Nation that, even though hasn't won a War since The Very Small Island War, has a Larger Army (40,000,000 Ground Troops, with logictis) and a Large Navy (12,000 Ships in all).

and Hatarian Ships have Anti-Aircraft Weapons, just tp let you know

*pokes Hataria* I need you to post your ships arriving at the Philippines and what they're doing.. so that we can start the fight.
Skinny87
23-01-2007, 21:13
If anything bothers me.. it's these constant satellite attacks. Being attacked via satellite by Hataria is one thing.. but the whole AN thing is very unecessary and annoying. I'm already outnumbered in the fleet-on-fleet part. >.>

<<

For a...suitable fee, the Royal Space Force of Skinny87 could be called upon to deal with these pesky satellites. Hell, if Quester's is getting involved, then I might as well stick an oar in and help equalise the space situation...
Axis Nova
23-01-2007, 21:23
Oh, I'm all set for someone trying to whack on me with a PMT spaceship.

edit: And I think he's only posting since having 21 inch guns on an Iowa offends his aesthetics or something. >_>
Blub Empire
23-01-2007, 21:26
AN, you seem to know Hataria pretty well. Could you please tell him he needs to post his fleet arriving at the Philippines, or whatever the heck they're doing?
Skinny87
23-01-2007, 21:38
Oh, I'm all set for someone trying to whack on me with a PMT spaceship.

edit: And I think he's only posting since having 21 inch guns on an Iowa offends his aesthetics or something. >_>

Oh, believe me. The RSF is more than ready to fight whatever...technology...can be thrown against it in space.
The Transylvania
23-01-2007, 21:38
<<

For a...suitable fee, the Royal Space Force of Skinny87 could be called upon to deal with these pesky satellites. Hell, if Quester's is getting involved, then I might as well stick an oar in and help equalise the space situation...

I would paid you for that service as I can do it, but it would be ignored by Hat and AN.
Hataria
23-01-2007, 21:40
Blub: I will post as soon as i can, But I am going to post.
Blub Empire
23-01-2007, 21:43
Blub: I will post as soon as i can, But I am going to post.

Ten-four.
The Transylvania
24-01-2007, 00:15
Say........where is Xharn?

If you check his nation’s page, you see that hasn’t logged in for some time. On my ally’s page is says Most Recent Government Activity: 4 days ago. Oh why, I forget you can’t see me. Somebody tell him that for me. Thanks.

And tell him this too. Un-ignore me and we’ll fight this out like men. That goes for AN and you, Hat.
Hataria
24-01-2007, 02:22
I don't fight with People who use the X-men to fight their wars........Tranny
The Aeson
24-01-2007, 02:24
I don't fight with People who use the X-men to fight their wars........Tranny

So, should he agree not to use the mutants present in his nation in the course of this roleplay, you would be willing to not ignore him?
The Transylvania
24-01-2007, 15:02
I don't fight with People who use the X-men to fight their wars........Tranny

I like people that call me a she-male, Hat. I don't use them in every single thread, Hat. You're ignoring without giving a single reason for why. If it is because I have X-Men type people in my nation, then you should have asked for me not to use them. I would have been okay with.

At esle, I didn't role-play somebody breaking a table with their bare hands during the peace talks.

The Black Sea fleet is just named after the Black Sea, nothing else.
Wilhelmsborough
24-01-2007, 17:37
The Black Sea fleet is just named after the Black Sea, nothing else.

That's good to know. It would be rather hard to fit two navies in such a small body of water.
Clandonia Prime
24-01-2007, 17:48
Has Hataria not noticed how I shot a huge anti-air missile at his delegates plane?
Axis Nova
24-01-2007, 17:50
So, should he agree not to use the mutants present in his nation in the course of this roleplay, you would be willing to not ignore him?

The issue in question, and one of the reasons for my ignore of him, is that when being told that his x-men would be ignored, he refused to accept this and insisted "My nation, my rules".
Carbandia
24-01-2007, 18:17
Has Hataria not noticed how I shot a huge anti-air missile at his delegates plane?
I think he is ignoring that event..
Axis Nova
24-01-2007, 18:18
I think he is ignoring that event..

Actually, it might have something to do with the fact that Clandonia's post, as read, said that he was preparing to fire the missile, but hasn't actually yet.

Though, imo, doing so would be a bad idea, as he would essentially be conducting an act of war inside Farmina's airspace...
Carbandia
24-01-2007, 18:23
True enough, that..Mind you a act of war against Hataria, not Farmina..*is well aware he's splitting hairs there*

Just to let you know, AN, I'm not going to join in the dog pile...Mostly because I can't see it ever being a fun rp..Especially the way both sides have been acting (face it..the name calling has not been one sided..A lot of it has been done by Hataria)
Axis Nova
24-01-2007, 18:32
It isn't much of a dog pile. From my point of view, me and Hataria hold a significant advantage at the moment.
Clandonia Prime
24-01-2007, 18:36
Actually, it might have something to do with the fact that Clandonia's post, as read, said that he was preparing to fire the missile, but hasn't actually yet.

Though, imo, doing so would be a bad idea, as he would essentially be conducting an act of war inside Farmina's airspace...

Yes but they would never know with an unknown aircraft flying at mach 10, hidden with a coat of super hot plasma....
Carbandia
24-01-2007, 18:52
Yes but they would never know with an unknown aircraft flying at mach 10, hidden with a coat of super hot plasma....
Actually, yes they would..As this aircraft would be lit up like a beacon from orbit..(at that speed the thermal trail behind it would give it away, easily)

Also what are you going to do at that speed? Ram them? There's no way in hell that you are going to be able to launch a missle at that speed..
Clandonia Prime
24-01-2007, 18:53
Actually, yes they would..As this aircraft would be lit up like a beacon from orbit..(at that speed the thermal trail behind it would give it away, easily)

Also what are you going to do at that speed? Ram them? There's no way in hell that you are going to be able to launch a missle at that speed..

As in unknown you wouldn't know whose it was.
Rotten bacon
24-01-2007, 18:54
Just as a heads up i am preparing to invade Hataria. just so you all know
Axis Nova
24-01-2007, 19:00
As in unknown you wouldn't know whose it was.

Analysis of wreckage from the plane (and the missile) would show the culprit.

And Rotten bacon, that's fine, once you start deploying into the region let me know. *has surveilance up all over that area*
The Transylvania
24-01-2007, 19:25
The issue in question, and one of the reasons for my ignore of him, is that when being told that his x-men would be ignored, he refused to accept this and insisted "My nation, my rules".

This is true because if I was invading your nation, I would have to play by your rules. Another reason I said that was your actions were pissing me off and I was getting tried of those action both ICly and OOCly.

Plus, being told that you're not going to move until 50% of pop was killed by WMDs after I set the rules for that role-play, which had 'No WMDs' in it, I got more pissed.

Don’t pull the tail of a wolf, if you don’t want the bite. You pulled my tail for to long and I bite you. That was your doing, AN.

About my mutants, you were telling me I could role-play as any of them. Not their powers. By doing that, the Dominion wouldn’t have a royal family.

I can't help, I'm a super geek and love reading comics like X-Men and so on. That’s right, I’m a super geek. You want facts about my mutants; most of them aren’t really that powerful and some of them are powerful like a super soldier in case of Reaper and Trevor. Those two have that would be classified as a godmode is their healing factor, but I don’t role-play their healing factor to be super like if they get shot, it will mess with them and will not heal up until the bullet has been took out.

Another thing about my mutant, they are there to add to the story. Like the Misfits, mutants that don’t look human on the outside or inside. Like ones with horns and etc. Picture a demon fighting you in the battle field and if you kill the person, you find out it wasn't a set of armor but real horns on this dark skinned man.

I know AN isn’t going to see this, but this is for everybody else to read.

And one more thing, stop with the name calling both ICly and OOCly. I don’t like that word and everybody with a brain knows that.
Blub Empire
24-01-2007, 19:56
Don’t pull the tail of a wolf, if you don’t want the bite. You pulled my tail for to long and I bite you. That was your doing, AN.


And.. uh, don't pull on the tentacle of a Blub unless you want it to whirl around, glare wildly and flail at your legs ineffectively.
Blub Empire
24-01-2007, 21:06
*twiddles tentacles* Wonder how this is going to end.
Axis Nova
24-01-2007, 21:55
It won't end with you being invaded and conquered. I find you amusing and a breath of fresh air, and you're a nice guy OOC, so therefore you shall not suffer the fate of certain other parties.
The Aeson
24-01-2007, 21:56
It won't end with you being invaded and conquered. I find you amusing and a breath of fresh air, and you're a nice guy OOC, so therefore you shall not suffer the fate of certain other parties.

So, can I quote on you that? That you decide your IC actions based on OOC feelings towards people?
The Transylvania
24-01-2007, 22:51
So, can I quote on you that? That you decide your IC actions based on OOC feelings towards people?

Me and him did start out friendly with each other, look at where that ended…

To counter attack what Hat said early about me using mutants to fight in war, I think they were only three times I did that. One was in an old Jenrak thread after I asked if he care about using them. Another one in Jagada after I talked with both Jagada and Kraven about their use. The last one was in the first Kologk thread with me after I asked Kologk, if I could use a few.

I don’t use then unless I ask first. If I get told no, I'm fine with it.

Unlike what Hat and AN think about me, I don’t need to use my mutants to win wars. Same thing with using WMDs to win war, I don’t need to.

If you think about, my nation isn’t full of mutants, vampires and etc. I was thinking early and thought one million out of my four billion plus was a good number for my mutants, vampires, and etc. One million is not a large number for a nation that has four billion plus.
Rotten bacon
24-01-2007, 22:55
Analysis of wreckage from the plane (and the missile) would show the culprit.

And Rotten bacon, that's fine, once you start deploying into the region let me know. *has surveilance up all over that area*

Dude dont be an Ass my reigion os for friends of mind from school and stuff. The other guy is one of my friends from school. it's not somthing that you develop.
Hataria
24-01-2007, 22:58
Dude dont be an Ass my reigion os for friends of mind from school and stuff. The other guy is one of my friends from school. it's not somthing that you develop.

Try it, You will wish you never thought of Attacking me, you see, Me and Axis Nova are allied so you my dear, are in for trobble
The Transylvania
24-01-2007, 23:06
Try it, You will wish you never thought of Attacking me, you see, Me and Axis Nova are allied so you my dear, are in for trobble

Nope, from what AN told me, you’re his client state. You’re money to him, Hat.

A helpful hint, keep the IC threaten in IC threads.
Hataria
24-01-2007, 23:12
Oh, Blub, can you post on my attack?
The Transylvania
24-01-2007, 23:16
Blub is not on-line, Hat. Un-ignore me, if you want to fight.
Hataria
24-01-2007, 23:27
Rotten Bacon: You are pwn as they say, Hataria has a 40,000,000 Man Army that thanks to Axis Nova has been Modernized and is now going to destroy your Invasion Force and will soon attack..........your own Homeland.
The Transylvania
24-01-2007, 23:32
Hat, do you only pick players that you know you can win against? Stop with the bloody threats in the OOC thread.
Jenrak
24-01-2007, 23:37
Rotten Bacon: You are pwn as they say, Hataria has a 40,000,000 Man Army that thanks to Axis Nova has been Modernized and is now going to destroy your Invasion Force and will soon attack..........your own Homeland.

How do you fund these things?
Rotten bacon
24-01-2007, 23:46
more importantly how? i covered this you wont be able to send it troops due to turrets around the shore and i have turrents covering space aginst your satilites.

OOC: dude you freaking retard you cant do that. 400 nuclear subs you could'nt afford that with axis nova's help 400 subs... no. Also i would have seen you with sonar. yes despite your obviosly uneducated and retarded ideals, i dont have rowboats.

Also unless i said where i was coming from, 2 million troops could'nt be waiting for me unless i said i was attacking here here and here.
so i suggest that you rethink and rewrite your whole counter attack. really
Skgorria
24-01-2007, 23:50
Yo Blub, feel free to have your troops trained in various special ways. I won't put training in that thread as it would clutter it up. Just remember to contact the mysterious e-mail if you need more stuff :p
Blub Empire
24-01-2007, 23:54
Hmm. I think I seriously pulled something in my foot on Sunday. Hurts like a mofo. *hugs poor Blubby foot*

Anyway.. Hataria, I replied. :)
Axis Nova
25-01-2007, 00:30
So, can I quote on you that? That you decide your IC actions based on OOC feelings towards people?

There is no real IC reason to invade and conquer Blub either. His nation is tiny and not strategically significant, and he has done no serious injury to me or Hataria.
Axis Nova
25-01-2007, 00:31
Keep in mind, Rotten bacon, that both me and Hataria have populations that are larger than that of the entire real world. That many people produce a loooot of taxes.

Really, for most NS navies, 400 subs is pretty small, at least if your military is inclined in that direction.

Also, re your comment of having seen them, submarines are VERY difficult to detect, especially when not moving. It's quite possible to have a nuclear submarine quietly lurking on the bottom for months at a time, making less noise than the fish swimming around it.
Questers
25-01-2007, 01:07
AN, what exactly IS your FOBS Thor? From what i've read of FOBS, it'd be possible (though hard) to shoot them down before they de-orbit, or even after, I suppose this is possible with yours also?

I am considering involvement but remember that if you use your g0dr0dz on me, I'll use my g0dr0dz on you <.<
Axis Nova
25-01-2007, 02:20
FOBS godrods, basically. I like them as they are irritatingly difficult to intercept considering the short amount of time between launch and deployment and the fact that it's almost impossible to tell where they're headed right away. They're also quite cheap to make, and can be done in various sizes, from telephone pole sized (what I generally use against naval vessels) down to crowbars for tanks, though they usually are not deployed against land units for various reasons. They're deployed against naval units in situations where I can't get other resources in place in a reasonable amount of time, as the preferred method is standoff cruise ASROC attacks from airship fleets (or land batteries firing same, where applicable).

They can certainly be shot down, but it's a real pain in the ass to catch them before they release their payload (and, of course, nailing them in the boost phase is also a pain since whatever would be shooting at them would soon have the wrath of my SDI system vented upon it).
Blub Empire
25-01-2007, 03:30
Not to flame.. or start a flamewar or anything but.. Rotten Bacon, would it kill you to run your posts through a spellchecker before hitting "REPLY"? >.> I know my grammar and spelling aren't stellar, but I like to think it's at least readable.

PS: Hataria, I replied in the whole Op Left Hand thing.
Axis Nova
25-01-2007, 03:36
I kind of get the feeling that he's a newbie to NS. >_>


vvvvvtime warp post!vvvvvv
Blub Empire
25-01-2007, 03:37
Looking at that whole rotten bacon thing again.. I just get this awkward, uncomfortable feeling. It's hard for me to read that jumbled up typing style, and the way he has his forces act, it's like.. it's like watching the neighbor's kid 'discover' the difference between boys and girls with a stray dog.

Dunno. Just getting this funny/weird sense that the whole thing will end in an OOC mess.
Hataria
25-01-2007, 03:41
I Replied
Axis Nova
25-01-2007, 03:59
Here's (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11100210&postcount=43) a link to the I-Type class's stats for you, Blub. You may be interested to know that this is the first time one of these has actually been deployed, and thus the first time one has ever shown up IC.

Though you might have seen it when I posted it on the Draftroom before.
Hataria
25-01-2007, 04:13
I like your Battleship
Axis Nova
25-01-2007, 04:23
Yeah, the battle will probably be over by the time the thing even gets into range (unless I blow the camo, which I probably won't unless it's attacked or gets in range). I just wanted an excuse to play with it since I havn't been able to yet. >.>

edit: dang it another time warp post
The Transylvania
25-01-2007, 04:27
It's a nice one. Overkill for this... but a nice one.

Just for reference, those bombs dropped from the Right Fist taskforce, they're fuel-air-explosives. Basicly, they don't explode instantly.. but rather the fuel has a few seconds to settle, spread out and mix well with oxygen.. THEN go boom.

Nothing real high-tech. It's sorta like.. delayed napalm.

I love fuel-air bombs. Good job in using them.

Damn Jolt and it’s time warping powers!
Blub Empire
25-01-2007, 04:27
It's a nice one. Overkill for this... but a nice one.

Just for reference, those bombs dropped from the Right Fist taskforce, they're fuel-air-explosives. Basicly, they don't explode instantly.. but rather the fuel has a few seconds to settle, spread out and mix well with oxygen.. THEN go boom.

Nothing real high-tech. It's sorta like.. delayed napalm.
Axis Nova
25-01-2007, 04:28
This time warp glitch is really getting annoying.

edit: raaaaaaagh
Blub Empire
25-01-2007, 04:31
Oh well. =/
Hataria
25-01-2007, 04:44
I am calling These wars the Cimmerian Wars, named for Cimmeria, which is what The Hatarians are calling Morocco now.
Hataria
25-01-2007, 04:47
I wonder if We could get someone to put this on NS wiki.
Blub Empire
25-01-2007, 04:55
Well.. the godrods really messed up my original plans. I was going to use the intact Left Hand taskforce to draw your fleets and assets into the Philippines.. then basicly dodge around and keep you busy.

Then I was going to launch the REAL attack on Hong Kong from the Right Fist taskforce. But.. meh. The godrods sort of crippled the Left Hand fleet before things ever got started.

Also.. only having 4 battleships, 7 carriers and like 20 cruisers, 90-ish destroyers TOTAL doesn't help much in the NS world.. where folks love to deploy thousands of planes and ships.
Blub Empire
25-01-2007, 04:57
I am calling These wars the Cimmerian Wars, named for Cimmeria, which is what The Hatarians are calling Morocco now.

Isn't that the name of the Elenian capital city in the "Sparhawk" series of books by David Eddings?
Hataria
25-01-2007, 05:43
Well.. the godrods really messed up my original plans. I was going to use the intact Left Hand taskforce to draw your fleets and assets into the Philippines.. then basicly dodge around and keep you busy.

Then I was going to launch the REAL attack on Hong Kong from the Right Fist taskforce. But.. meh. The godrods sort of crippled the Left Hand fleet before things ever got started.

Also.. only having 4 battleships, 7 carriers and like 20 cruisers, 90-ish destroyers TOTAL doesn't help much in the NS world.. where folks love to deploy thousands of planes and ships.


Well, It did Draw out the Hatarian East Asian Fleet and you kicked it realy Hard, I have to hand it to you, for a Sep 2006 Nation, you are good. And It was still a fair Fight.

Only Demon 666 ever gave me that good of a FAIR Fight. Questers never did.
Blub Empire
25-01-2007, 05:55
Meh. I was heavily outnumbered from the outset. Being the underdog is one thing.. but even if I had decided to send in the Right Fist taskforce from the north, it would have only served to bloody more of my ships.

If I'd beaten you in the Philippines.. it wouldn't have meant anything since the landing operations wouldn't have enough support in Hong Kong. I just knew when to try and call a stop to things before the Blubs lost their whole navy.
Hataria
25-01-2007, 06:06
Meh. I was heavily outnumbered from the outset. Being the underdog is one thing.. but even if I had decided to send in the Right Fist taskforce from the north, it would have only served to bloody more of my ships.

If I'd beaten you in the Philippines.. it wouldn't have meant anything since the landing operations wouldn't have enough support in Hong Kong. I just knew when to try and call a stop to things before the Blubs lost their whole navy.

Well, you are still good, I might help rebuild your Navy.
Blub Empire
25-01-2007, 06:12
>.<
Questers
25-01-2007, 14:03
FOBS godrods, basically. I like them as they are irritatingly difficult to intercept considering the short amount of time between launch and deployment and the fact that it's almost impossible to tell where they're headed right away. They're also quite cheap to make, and can be done in various sizes, from telephone pole sized (what I generally use against naval vessels) down to crowbars for tanks, though they usually are not deployed against land units for various reasons. They're deployed against naval units in situations where I can't get other resources in place in a reasonable amount of time, as the preferred method is standoff cruise ASROC attacks from airship fleets (or land batteries firing same, where applicable).

They can certainly be shot down, but it's a real pain in the ass to catch them before they release their payload (and, of course, nailing them in the boost phase is also a pain since whatever would be shooting at them would soon have the wrath of my SDI system vented upon it).

I guess my Strategic Rocket Forces (under which satellites fall, for some reason) will have to do their best, then. Maybe it will be good having a challenge against Hataria :P
Axis Nova
25-01-2007, 15:35
Don't expect I'll deploy an I-Type directly against one of YOUR fleets, Questers. =p That's a bit too many ships for one of those to take head-on.
Blub Empire
25-01-2007, 19:40
>.> The snow is pouring down outside. Glad I didn't need to go anywhere today.
The Transylvania
25-01-2007, 19:46
Blub, I would aid your nation with money and etc, but I don’t think Hat or AN would allow it. I want to the help the guy that got attack with WMDs.

Come on, Hat and AN, I want to role-play into his thread because Hat is fighting with my ally. This will be the last time we role-play together, if you want. I don’t care, if I win or loss, but as long as I have fun doing it.

*Offers a hand to Hat and AN*

Let’s show the world what we can do!
Hataria
25-01-2007, 20:21
Well, The Blub War is over, but The Cimmerian War is still going on.
Blub Empire
25-01-2007, 20:24
Blub, I would aid your nation with money and etc, but I don’t think Hat or AN would allow it. I want to the help the guy that got attack with WMDs.

Come on, Hat and AN, I want to role-play into his because Hat is fighting with my ally. This will be the last time we role-play together, if you want. I don’t care, if I win or loss, but as long as I have fun doing it.

*Offers a hand to Hat and AN*

Let’s show the world what we can do!

Don't see why you're so eager to be involved. Between Hataria's numbers and AN's PMT type equipment.. it's hard fighting.
Questers
25-01-2007, 20:27
Blub, what are you actually planning to do next?
Blub Empire
25-01-2007, 20:30
Probably just rebuild, I guess. Going after Hataria wouldn't be too smart.
The Transylvania
25-01-2007, 20:31
Don't see why you're so eager to be involved. Between Hataria's numbers and AN's PMT type equipment.. it's hard fighting.

Because that's want allies are for. I’m not afraid of Hat’s numbers or AN’s PMT tech. The Dominion is both MT and PMT. I will play by their rules, too. Meaning no mutants from my side in this war. What i was going to do was try and force Hat out of Europe and North Africa.

Probably just rebuild, I guess. Going after Hataria wouldn't be too smart.

Not unless you have an ally on your side. I bet Matt (Questers) would be on your side.
Blub Empire
25-01-2007, 20:34
I'm a little bit suprised they even RP'd with me, considering the Blubs aren't human. I was reading about your big mutant debacle with Hataria and AN. Blubs aren't mutants.. more like genetically engineered. >.> Hrmm.
The Transylvania
25-01-2007, 20:36
I'm a little bit suprised they even RP'd with me, considering the Blubs aren't human. I was reading about your big mutant debacle with Hataria and AN. Blubs aren't mutants.. more like genetically engineered. >.> Hrmm.

Yup, I’m a super geek. Look at me, I’m the super geek!
The Transylvania
25-01-2007, 20:58
Well, The Blub War is over, but The Cimmerian War is still going on.

This didn’t answer my question, Hat. Can I aid Blub and Xharn as long as I play by your rules?
Hataria
25-01-2007, 21:23
This didn’t answer my question, Hat. Can I aid Blub and Xharn as long as I play by your rules?


You have to ask Axis Nova about that too.....and The Blub War is over
Hataria
25-01-2007, 21:27
Axis Nova says "since I have him on ignore, anything he does with regards to assisting Xharn against us will of course be ignored as well since things he does don't exist."


I think you made him made trans
The Transylvania
25-01-2007, 21:27
You have to ask Axis Nova about that too.....and The Blub War is over

AN don’t talk to me remember, you’re going to have to be my link with him. I can still aid Blub in rebuilding. That's a way to get allies. As of now, can I write a post to aid Blub with some money and help to rebuild the city you attacked?

Axis Nova says "since I have him on ignore, anything he does with regards to assisting Xharn against us will of course be ignored as well since things he does don't exist."

I think you made him mad trans

He can grow up then. If he can take a few curse words, then he can get off of NS. What happened to him was his own doing. I don't care, if I made him mad. I got tried of him pulling my tail and not doing anything in those other thread. I should be more pissed at him then he should be at me.

If I can’t aid Xharn, then you will have to loss an ally.
The Transylvania
25-01-2007, 21:43
And Hat, AN not your boss. He doesn’t have the power to boss you around like anybody else on this game. It is your right to role-play with whomever you want.

I'm going to write up a post for the Cimmerian War. AN can ignore as he really doesn't have anything there. But you have the option to role-play with me and see what an ally does for his ally.
Blub Empire
25-01-2007, 21:52
I'm not very comfortable being in the middle of an OOC fight, guys.
The Transylvania
25-01-2007, 22:09
You’re not in the middle of one with me and Hat. Or really one with me or AN. I don’t have problem with them anymore. I just want to made our bad past into something good. Come on, Hat, let’s show AN that me and you can get along.

I still don’t know what’s up with Xharn, he hasn’t logged onto his nation in five days.
The Transylvania
26-01-2007, 01:07
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12253193&postcount=98

This doesn’t make sense. Classified Message From Clandonia. Wrong word you have there. This is the only way I need how to tell you that.
Axis Nova
27-01-2007, 18:54
Apologies for not replying to anything, I've been pretty busy and will continue to be busy for most of the weekend. I'll post stuff later today if I can.
Hataria
27-01-2007, 20:25
Well, I am giveing Rotten bacon a way to get out of The war with out being turned into a Hatarian Colony.

and to those of you who are trying but failing to stop The Treaty from Being signed, It is to late, Me and Blub signed it. Oh and I like Blub.
Blub Empire
27-01-2007, 20:40
>.> Don't know how long you're gonna like me. The Blubs are a determined little race of green blobs. They've got their eyes on Japan now.
Axis Nova
27-01-2007, 21:39
Japan's owned by Demon 666, who is an enemy of Hataria.
Blub Empire
27-01-2007, 23:55
Hrmm. Mainland China then!
Demon 666
28-01-2007, 00:26
Erm, hey guys, well, I temporaily dropped out of this stuff, mainly due to the fact that I couldn't contribute to the negotiations. (seemed to me like a bunch of random guys, I must admit).
So, if you guys don't admit, could I be a bit updated as to what's going on, ICly?
Thank you.
The Transylvania
28-01-2007, 01:52
Hat, are you going to post anything about my ships heading toward Rabat? Like I said, AN is not your boss. It is up to you whom you want to role-play with. I already said I would play by your rules. Let’s show AN that me and you can get along OOCly.
Axis Nova
28-01-2007, 02:12
Erm, hey guys, well, I temporaily dropped out of this stuff, mainly due to the fact that I couldn't contribute to the negotiations. (seemed to me like a bunch of random guys, I must admit).
So, if you guys don't admit, could I be a bit updated as to what's going on, ICly?
Thank you.

Hataria invaded Morocco (a generic NPC morocco, not Greater Morocco), and I provided some logistics support. Xharn and Asgarnieu both deployed godrods and some nukes against Hataria, Hataria retaliated with his own godrods, this caused a bit of a diplomatic furor. After that, Blub got his capital godrodded a bit, so he deployed most of his navy. That detachment got chewed up pretty good between more godrods from me and Hataria's fleet.

Since then, Hataria and Blub signed a peace treaty, and Hataria provided a nice big aid package and some big ships to Blub so he can rebuild his navy, and there hasn't been much more action in Morocco thus far. Xharn hasn't shown up in a week or so.

Also, some newbie tried to invade Hataria, and got horribly spanked.

Oh yeah, The Transylvania tried to get in on this, but both me and Hataria have him on ignore, so, yeah.

Right now, the Morocco situation is relatively stable, with most of the country in control of Hataria, with my forces in the southern part and the northern Sahara. Questers has indicated he may wish to become involved, but nothing has become of that (yet).

Resistance to the Hatarian invasion is pretty much down to the level of people supplying arms to resistance fighters.
The Transylvania
28-01-2007, 02:23
The reason for the ignore is because AN can’t take a few bad words. Welcome to the real world, Axis Nova. It was your own doing, AN. Your telling me what I can and can’t do with my own nation. Your posting of two AIM logs between me and you on the draftroom without me telling you could. The reason for that was just to make fun of me.

AN grow up.
Hataria
28-01-2007, 02:41
Hrmm. Mainland China then!

I hear Clandonia is Free for the takeing
The Transylvania
28-01-2007, 02:47
I hear Clandonia is Free for the takeing

Nobody would do that as they would have to deal with nations stronger then you and AN.
Clandonia Prime
28-01-2007, 02:54
I hear Clandonia is Free for the takeing

Go on Hataria, try and fight them I bet you will win easily!
The Transylvania
28-01-2007, 03:00
At else, you are going down like a real role-player and not ignore them because for OOC reason like them saying bad words to you on AIM.

And Hat, please post because I have never had a problem with you OOCly.
Hataria
28-01-2007, 03:03
Go on Hataria, try and fight them I bet you will win easily!

Well, unlike you, I DON't have ALL of NationStates wanting me Dead. Those that want me gone are a minority.
Questers
28-01-2007, 03:07
Lol Hataria, fail. Not "ALL" of NS wants Clandonia dead.
Mini Miehm
28-01-2007, 03:07
Well, unlike you, I DON't have ALL of NationStates wanting me Dead. Those that want me gone are a minority.

I think I just collapsed a lung reading that.
Clandonia Prime
28-01-2007, 03:12
Well, unlike you, I DON't have ALL of NationStates wanting me Dead. Those that want me gone are a minority.

Wow, just wow here's a sniper smilie for good measure.

Hataria <<<<<<<<< :sniper:
The Transylvania
28-01-2007, 03:13
I think I just collapsed a lung reading that.

Sorry to hear that, are you okay? Can you breath?
Mini Miehm
28-01-2007, 03:22
Sorry to hear that, are you okay? Can you breath?

I'm not even gonna dignify that stupidity with a serious response.

So... How about that local sports team?
The Transylvania
28-01-2007, 03:30
I'm not even gonna dignify that stupidity with a serious response.

So... How about that local sports team?

You did say you collapsed a lung because of what Hat said. I just want to know, if you’re okay.

Which one? I don’t really about any of them.
Questers
28-01-2007, 03:36
Cmon man. If he had collapsed a lung would he really post that on NS? I think he'd have more important things to be doing (eg dying or calling an ambulance)
Hataria
28-01-2007, 03:37
well, No Sign of Xharn, which looks like The RP is at a Stand still.

will someone TG him or E-mail him for god sakes.
Blub Empire
28-01-2007, 03:39
*rubs Blubby little chin, ponders an all-out assault landing on China*
Hataria
28-01-2007, 03:43
*rubs Blubby little chin, ponders an all-out assault landing on China*


Say, Blub, You want Tradeing Rights in China?
The Transylvania
28-01-2007, 03:46
Cmon man. If he had collapsed a lung would he really post that on NS? I think he'd have more important things to be doing (eg dying or calling an ambulance)

I know, I was just making small talk as I can’t post because of AN. Are you going to aid in the Morocco War?

well, No Sign of Xharn, which looks like The RP is at a Stand still.

will someone TG him or E-mail him for god sakes.

I have, Hat. I've TGed him a few times.
Blub Empire
28-01-2007, 03:58
Say, Blub, You want Tradeing Rights in China?

Can't I just conquer China instead? ^.^
Hurtful Thoughts
28-01-2007, 04:15
Cmon man. If he had collapsed a lung would he really post that on NS? I think he'd have more important things to be doing (eg dying or calling an ambulance)

Mmmm, not really, collapsing A lung isn't fatal, and a person can recover from it. As noted by one particular German pilot who took a .303 to the chest, also loseing the use of his left side, only to recover both capabilities after a 'sledding accident'.*
[I might be considerably off with this, but eh, I'll fact check myself tomorrow]
*Pretty sure it was just loss of paralysis...

Though it brings up the questoins, "How" and "Why", as in "How did you collapse a lung?" and "Why were you doing that?"

well, No Sign of Xharn, which looks like The RP is at a Stand still.

will someone TG him or E-mail him for god sakes.
Didn't you E-mail him yet?

Well, unlike you, I DON't have ALL of NationStates wanting me Dead. Those that want me gone are a minority.
True, I don't want you dead, that wouldn't accomplish anything in my favor...
Mini Miehm
28-01-2007, 04:23
I know, I was just making small talk as I can’t post because of AN.

Your small talk phails.
Axis Nova
28-01-2007, 19:25
If you guys need to snipe at each other, do it over MSN and don't crap up this thread, please.
Asgarnieu
31-01-2007, 03:27
The hatarians were soon makeing Morocco a deadly place for enemy Special Forces. The Hatarian Shadow-Yun (Hatarian Special Forces) were in Morocco to start hunting Freedom Fighters and enemy SpecOps.

and The Hatarians soon sent a Messenge to All Moroccans calling in them to turn in Freedom Fighters and enemy troops. Also, the High Command sent orders to the Hatarian Army to Kill ALL Asgarniean Special Forces in Morocco and hang their heads on Pikes around Rabat, now Being Surrounded by Hatarian Naval and Ground Forces as The Sige had started already.

The final Campaign was starting.
-Hataria, Moroccan Front

Hataria, how in the hell are the Moroccans supposed to know who the Asgarnian Special Forces are? Hell, you don't even know that they are in the nation, as far as I know, perhaps you should RP the knowledge. They look exactly like rebels or ordinary Moroccans with good guns.
Hurtful Thoughts
31-01-2007, 04:18
-Hataria, Moroccan Front

Hataria, how in the hell are the Moroccans supposed to know who the Asgarnian Special Forces are? Hell, you don't even know that they are in the nation, as far as I know, perhaps you should RP the knowledge. They look exactly like rebels or ordinary Moroccans with good guns.

I wouldn't be too hard pressed to make a Hurtian look like a Hatarian...

All I have to do is shoot wildly in a crowded room...

Well... not that easy...
Blub Empire
31-01-2007, 16:40
Operation Warlock is now underway. Hataria, take interest please.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=516501
Axis Nova
31-01-2007, 19:29
Hey, Blub, how does your merchant shipping usually operate?
Blub Empire
31-01-2007, 19:33
Hey, Blub, how does your merchant shipping usually operate?

Usually it's just cargo ships on sea lanes. But lately.. I've had a bunch of allies sending fleets to Blubland for various reasons. It's freed up some of my coast guard to escort the merchant lanes to prevent submarine and air attacks.
Xharn
31-01-2007, 22:13
Hataria,

I have another ally coming into the Morocco war, the infinite Empire of Yallak. My nation is a protectorate in the Infinite Empire and my forces are considered an extension of the Empire’s military, Just a little heads up.

I also wanted to inquire why you decided to ignore Jwolf? He is a desperately needed ally in a situation where my forces are surrounded by nations more than three times my size..
Hataria
31-01-2007, 22:36
Hataria,



I also wanted to inquire why you decided to ignore Jwolf? He is a desperately needed ally in a situation where my forces are surrounded by nations more than three times my size..


He is a Douche ICly and OOCly. OOCly on AIM he started Calling Axis Nova names one time so that is why AN is Ignoreing Trans.

ICly He was Rude as he was OOCly and Insulted Me ICly and OOCly. Till Trans Says Sorry to Axis Nova and Me, he will Be Ignored.
The Transylvania
31-01-2007, 22:39
Hat, I don't think I never called you names or AN names. Unlike that flame you said about me.

AN posted two AIM logs between me and him on the draftroom to make fun of me.
Zackaroth
31-01-2007, 22:47
.....YOu know calling him a douche doesnt extactly further your case....
Rotten bacon
31-01-2007, 22:55
He is a Douche ICly and OOCly. OOCly on AIM he started Calling Axis Nova names one time so that is why AN is Ignoreing Trans.

ICly He was Rude as he was OOCly and Insulted Me ICly and OOCly. Till Trans Says Sorry to Axis Nova and Me, he will Be Ignored.

ummmm
Asgarnieu
31-01-2007, 22:59
Hataria: Why don't you ignore that? If you can provide hardcore proof to your claim of JWolf calling AN names, than it is justified, but otherwise it is just child's play...

JWolf: Do you have ANY recollection of calling AN names?

AN: Can you comment? Is this true?
Axis Nova
31-01-2007, 23:15
I really don't want to drag up this argument again, but I'll just say this: regardless of what Trans says, I have no interest in interacting with him again.
The Transylvania
31-01-2007, 23:32
JWolf: Do you have ANY recollection of calling AN names?

Nope, I’m not that way and I was pissed, but I didn’t call him or Hat any names. I did talk down to his (AN) StSL and stealth anti-ship missile, called them wanked out designs.
Questers
01-02-2007, 01:00
Really, Trans, just drop it. It's freeform, if they want to ignore you they can. Its pretty obvious there's nothing going to be done about it. That said, if I was in your position, I'd probably be bitching too.
The Transylvania
01-02-2007, 01:13
I have, but Xharn wanted to know why they ignored me. Should I report Hat for his flame?
Axis Nova
01-02-2007, 05:46
I don't know where you folks are getting the impression that I'm planning to invade Blub O_o; the 9th fleet is after Blub's fleet.

Also, MM, please post a link to the stats of your airships. And, you're mistaken about 25mm rounds being able to penetrate =p
The Solarin League
01-02-2007, 06:12
I don't know where you folks are getting the impression that I'm planning to invade Blub O_o; the 9th fleet is after Blub's fleet.

Also, MM, please post a link to the stats of your airships. And, you're mistaken about 25mm rounds being able to penetrate =p

By all accounts your armor is to protect against what is, for all intents and purposes, flak. 25mm AT does not flak make. I don't feel obligated to make stats for them, just to satisfy you. They've been used before, in the Kraven Wars. Anything you absolutely have to know you can ask me. I read your thread about yours. They're well armored against AA, proximity detonations, and HEAT(for some random reason).

And how is 25mm not going to penetrate, just flat out? What do you actually know about the gun? It could be a downsized GAU-8 for all you know. Simply stating "It's 25mm, it won't work" isn't good enough. If I didn't think it was likely to be an effective weapon, I wouldn't have posted that it would penetrate.
Axis Nova
01-02-2007, 07:58
Saying they've been used before is not sufficient. For all I know they're flying naval vessels with big turrets that are armored like WWII battleships. I need to see stats (or at least information on their capabilities) so I know if they're feasible or not.
Blub Empire
01-02-2007, 08:31
I'll reply in the morning.
Automagfreek
01-02-2007, 08:36
Hataria,

I have another ally coming into the Morocco war, the infinite Empire of Yallak. My nation is a protectorate in the Infinite Empire and my forces are considered an extension of the Empire’s military, Just a little heads up.


Your nation is still under my protection due to your EoE membership, but so far I've been biting my tongue throughout this whole thing. Hataria flipped out last time we clashed during the Greater Morocco invasion, hence why I am hesitant to enter and potentially end up wasting more time.
Questers
01-02-2007, 09:14
ORBATS... For your information. Man, I love my ORBAT XD though you may not understand it I've left bits of information in so you can see exactly what I have deployed.

1.Hikoshidan, 1.Koku Kantai:
3,888 A3H2 Fighters (http://z3.invisionfree.com/SU_Defense_Industry/index.php?showtopic=3), 1,944 M4F4 Missile Bombers (http://z3.invisionfree.com/SU_Defense_Industry/index.php?showtopic=18), 1,944 B3M6 Torpedo Bombers (http://z3.invisionfree.com/SU_Defense_Industry/index.php?showtopic=18), 108 R2F2 AWACS (http://z3.invisionfree.com/SU_Defense_Industry/index.php?showtopic=14), 108 L6F6 Logistics (http://z3.invisionfree.com/SU_Defense_Industry/index.php?showtopic=12), 540 G4M6 Bombers,
324 H2H2 Patrol

Still in the process of workin up stats for the G4M6 and the H2H2, since I'll be statting them myself and not just getting DPR.

Kido Butai:
This is the names of the carriers and what they're grouped up into... and then will come their aircraft assignments. You may want to read this (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Imperial_Questarian_Naval_Air_Service) article to get a full understanding. If you can understand THAT XD
1st Carrier Division:
HMS Shokaku
HMS Zuikaku
2nd Carrier Division:
HMS Yorktown
HMS Essex
3rd Carrier Division:
HMS Taiho
1st Medium Carrier Division:
HMS Ark Royal
HMS Ardent
HMS Auspicious
HMS Antelope
2nd Medium Carrier Division:
HMS Albion
HMS Archer
HMS Attacker
HMS Avenger
1st Light Carrier Division:
HMS Chitose
HMS Chiyoda
HMS Taiyo
HMS Shoho
2nd Light Carrier Division:
HMS Zuiho
HMS Unyo
HMS Chuyo
HMS Shinyo

1.Koku Sentai, Carrier Striking Force: (First NAVAL Air Fleet, as opposed to the First Air Fleet, which 1.Hikoshidan i'm sending, that 1.Hikoshidan is different to the 1.Hikoshidan labelled here as the former is part of the Navy's land fleets. Koku Kantai = land air fleet, Koku Sentai = sea air fleet.
~5,735 planes
Shokaku: 1.Hikoshidan
18 Hikobuntai of 22 aircraft <1.Hikotai>
12 Hikodan of 11 aircraft <2.Hikotai>

Zuikaku: 2.Hikoshidan
18 Hikobuntai of 23 aircraft <1.Hikotai>
12 Hikodan of 11 aircraft <2.Hikotai>

Yorktown: 3.Hikoshidan
15 Hikobuntai of 24 aircraft <1.Hikotai>
12 Hikodan of 10 aircraft <2.Hikotai>

Essex: 4.Hikoshidan
9 Hikobuntai of 14 aircraft <1.Hikotai>
9 Hikobuntai of 14 aircraft <2.Hikotai>
5 Hikodan of 12 aircraft <3.Hikotai>
5 Hikodan of 12 aircraft <4.Hikotai>

Taiho: 5.Hikoshidan
15 Hikobuntai of 15 aircraft <1.Hikotai>
15 Hikobuntai of 15 aircraft <2.Hikotai>
15 Hikodan of 15 aircraft <3.Hikotai>

Ark Royal Class [1,792]: 1.-8. Hikojo Daitai
10 Hikobuntai of 22 aircraft <1.Hikotai>
1 Hikobuntai of 22 aircraft <2.Hikotai>
1 Hikodan of 22 aircraft <3.Hikotai>

Chitose Class [880]: 1.-8.Hikojo Chutai
5 Hikodan of 20 aircraft <1.Hikotai>
1 Hikobuntai of 10 aircraft <2.Hikotai>

1st Destroyer Division
20th Cruiser Division [10 Heavy Cruisers, 15 Light Cruisers, 25 Destroyers]
20th Destroyer Flotilla [5 Light Cruisers, 30 Destroyers]
21st Destroyer Flotilla [5 Light Cruisers, 30 Destroyers]
2nd Destroyer Division
23rd Destroyer Flotilla [5 Light Cruisers, 30 Destroyers]
24rd Destroyer Flotilla [5 Light Cruisers, 30 Destroyers]
25th Destroyer Flotilla [5 Light Cruisers, 30 Destroyers]

Assorted supply ships.
Supply Screen:
26th Destroyer Flotilla [5 Light Cruisers, 30 Destroyers]
27th Destroyer Flotilla [5 Light Cruisers, 30 Destroyers]

Also attached:
1st Subsurface Division
1st Attack Squadron [20 SSN]
1st Strike Squadron [35 SSGN]
Axis Nova
01-02-2007, 20:27
You know, deploying giant fleets is a surefire way to get me to fling more FOBS Thor packs :p

Also, by the way, I have no intent of invading Blub, and neither does Hataria, so I have no idea why you guys are rushing so many ground troops there.
The Solarin League
01-02-2007, 20:36
Saying they've been used before is not sufficient. For all I know they're flying naval vessels with big turrets that are armored like WWII battleships. I need to see stats (or at least information on their capabilities) so I know if they're feasible or not.

That would be stupid. Since I'm not stupid, they're obviously not armored like something out of a nightmare. Destroyers are totally unarmored. Cruisers and battleships are more able to withstand damage. That's all that matters.

Destroyers mount a single 25mm AT weapon in their chin, 2 20mm Vulcan PD units. They each carry an internal missile magazine of 20 birds. Cruisers mount a single 30mm(think GAU-8 style), and 2 25mms. They mount several 5 20mm Vulcan PD units. Their missile magazine is nearly doubled, at 35 birds. Battleships mount a trio of 30mms, 7 25mms, and 15 20mm Vulcans. As well as a 50 round missile magazine.
Axis Nova
01-02-2007, 20:39
Right, that's fine then.

By the way, the reason I'm not immediately dealing with your destroyers is because the max speed for ANY airship in PMT or MT, regardless of propulsion or speed, is going to be subsonic. So they arn't going to be an issue for some time.
The Transylvania
01-02-2007, 20:45
You know, deploying giant fleets is a surefire way to get me to fling more FOBS Thor packs :p

I would like to point out this, rods of gods are WMDs.
The Solarin League
01-02-2007, 21:33
Right, that's fine then.

By the way, the reason I'm not immediately dealing with your destroyers is because the max speed for ANY airship in PMT or MT, regardless of propulsion or speed, is going to be subsonic. So they arn't going to be an issue for some time.

Yeah, you'll note the "several hours" time frame. That means that about the time you engage the Blub Fleet, you'll have a bunch(say 20) destroyers roaring up your backside.
Axis Nova
01-02-2007, 21:38
Oh, I hardly plan to get into gun range of the fleet. I'll be hitting it from well outside SAM range, after all.
The Solarin League
01-02-2007, 21:47
Oh, I hardly plan to get into gun range of the fleet. I'll be hitting it from well outside SAM range, after all.

See previous.
Questers
01-02-2007, 21:48
You know, deploying giant fleets is a surefire way to get me to fling more FOBS Thor packs :p

You know, deploying FOBS Thor packs is a surefire way for me to use my similar technology to sink Hataria's fleets :P

While I dont' think godrods are WMDs, I sure do have a deterrence policy on them. If you use them on me, I'll use them back on you and while mine might not be as GOOD as yours, I still have fucking tons of them <.<
Axis Nova
01-02-2007, 21:51
Editing my recent post due to misunderstanding on my part on how blip enhancement works.
The Transylvania
01-02-2007, 21:53
Anything that has the power of nuke, I say that’s a WMD. I’m the same way, too, Questers. Can’t way for Hat or AN to use them on you or Blub or the rest of the allies.

Somebody, please help Xharn in Morocoo. Thanks!
Axis Nova
01-02-2007, 21:58
You know, deploying FOBS Thor packs is a surefire way for me to use my similar technology to sink Hataria's fleets :P

While I dont' think godrods are WMDs, I sure do have a deterrence policy on them. If you use them on me, I'll use them back on you and while mine might not be as GOOD as yours, I still have fucking tons of them <.<

Hataria not only has fleets to spare, I also have way more FOBS Thor than you have, since, as stated, you just started deploying some prototypes. =p I was more referring to Chellis's ludicrous "45 fleets lol" thing.
Questers
01-02-2007, 22:03
Fleets to spare? We'll see. By the way, I've always used space to earth weaponry, I have a considerable amount of it. If you do kill the 21 carriers in the pacific, my orbital and air strikes will make the Hatarian Navy pay in far greater blood.
Axis Nova
01-02-2007, 22:42
Erm, Blub, your aircraft are not going to be able to transit hundreds of kilometers instantly. Slow down a bit, your aircraft would still have to run the gauntlet of considerable fire from the airships themselves, the CAP pickets are just the outermost zone of defense XP
Blub Empire
01-02-2007, 23:22
I'm not retyping that. Just do your response as of.. wherever it is you think your wanky little defenses would kick in.
The Transylvania
01-02-2007, 23:52
Be careful, I called his stuff wanky, too and he ignores me now.
The Solarin League
02-02-2007, 06:44
Well, we calls'em as we sees'em. His planes are going to be relatively useless until they drop their cloaking trick, so I don't even have to worry about them.
Hataria
03-02-2007, 01:53
The Morocco Thread is Cloased, Invite only, as will all Future Threads of mine will be.
Questers
03-02-2007, 02:00
Hataria, by the way, if you attack someone, they're allowed to call in allies. Thats part of the rules of closed RP.
Asgarnieu
03-02-2007, 02:10
Hataria, you are only doing that to attempt to get an upper hand; because you know that if you don't, you'll be squashed.
The Transylvania
03-02-2007, 02:19
That’s why role-playing with Hat and AN is hard to do. *Look back at that mess between me & Dephire and those two. Starting as a closed thread that ended becoming open because Hat didn't want to loss his colonies*
Hataria
03-02-2007, 04:27
That’s why role-playing with Hat and AN is hard to do. *Look back at that mess between me & Dephire and those two. Starting as a closed thread that ended becoming up because Hat didn't want to loss his colonies*

Dephire didn't want that RP ended, but you had to Get Axis Nova Pissed off because you Started Cusing him. and Stop being a Troll, You are still Mad because of The Mods Warning you about Spamming My Threads.
The Transylvania
03-02-2007, 04:36
I didn’t curse AN until he pissed me off, he got what was coming to him. And I’m not being a troll, I’m stating the facts. When Xharn started to get support, you closed the thread after it had been open from the start.

And the mods didn’t warn me about anything, sorry you were told wrong. They just told me to play nice and I have done that with you and AN, but you two continue to ignore because I’m rude as you put it. ICly, I can be rude to you two all I want as you two are my enemies. OOCly, I was rude after dealing with a month and longer of having my tail pulled by AN and you. I think everybody knows that.

Now, Hat, you will have to deal with Xharn’s allies as you have attacked Xharn.

And one more thing, be happy I didn’t report that flame you said to me. That should tell you something, I’m being the civil one in this matter.
Mini Miehm
03-02-2007, 06:15
The Morocco Thread is Cloased, Invite only, as will all Future Threads of mine will be.

Tell that to the title you put on the thread. It quite blatantly read open. Retroactively changing that does not remove the effects of my post. And, you've little choice in the matter, much as the GE war, and when you invaded NE. I am supporting Blub. You cannot simply ignore all of his allies to win. And ignoring me tends to be, unhealthy at best. So you are left with two options, you respond to my legitimate and logical attack, or you ignore it, get called for it, and lose the last tiny sliver of tolerance and respect that anyone might possibly posses for you. It makes perfect sense for me to destroy any and all assets that I can reach with my military. That includes those not associated with the Blub War. So, post. Do so now.
Hataria
03-02-2007, 07:49
New rules:

Anyone with a REAL Reason for Being in The Morocco RP will Be alowed by asking me and AN, everyone who just wants in because They hate me.........GET THE ^$#&(%# OUT OF MY THREAD!
Mini Miehm
03-02-2007, 08:03
I'll expect your reply some time soon then.
Axis Nova
03-02-2007, 08:20
Alright, let's slow things down a bit and reorganize. Anyone without a valid IC reason to be involved in this thing with Morocco and with Blub? Get out please. This basically means that if Blub -or- Questers did not specifically ask you in, don't join up. The people I see as having a valid reason to be involved in the Xharn, Morocco, and Blub stuff at this time are Blub, myself, Hataria, Questers, Asgarnieu, Xharn, AMF, Allanea, Pantera, and whoever it was that was supplying small arms to the resistance in Morocco.

Everyone else, please restrain yourselves a bit; too many cooks makes a bad dish, and this RP has been showing some promise. I'd rather not have it get crapped up like most RPs with 30-40 people in them do.
Hakurabi
03-02-2007, 08:45
Rotten Bacon, I don't think you're helping.

The reason why Hataria has so far made 3 threads on Morocco is because the first two derailed almost completely. While I don't agree with Hataria's RP style, I respect that others do and do not take part.
Axis Nova
03-02-2007, 08:57
To wit, there are three separate conflicts at the moment. I'll try to put them in order.

First off, we have the Moroccan invasion. I tagged along on this, though I'm more interested in aquiring some desert bases in Western Hataria, as well as snagging Gibraltar and setting up that platform in the strait, for reasons which will become clear if it survives the upcoming conflict with Pantera coming in to try to boot us out.

Next, there's the Blub thing... Basically, Blub's ambassador was exceptionally rude to Hataria's national leader at a diplomatic meeting, and in response, Hataria godrodded some of his capital. Afterwards, there was a naval battle between Blub and Hataria, which Blub lost. Blub subsequently recieved a lot of aid from Hataria and various others, but decided to attack Hataria again anyways.

The Xharn thing is stalled and is sort of an offshoot of the Morocco thing.
Yallak
03-02-2007, 13:52
Alright, let's slow things down a bit and reorganize. Anyone without a valid IC reason to be involved in this thing with Morocco and with Blub? Get out please. This basically means that if Blub -or- Questers did not specifically ask you in, don't join up. The people I see as having a valid reason to be involved in the Xharn, Morocco, and Blub stuff at this time are Blub, myself, Hataria, Questers, Asgarnieu, Xharn, AMF, Allanea, Pantera, and whoever it was that was supplying small arms to the resistance in Morocco.

Everyone else, please restrain yourselves a bit; too many cooks makes a bad dish, and this RP has been showing some promise. I'd rather not have it get crapped up like most RPs with 30-40 people in them do.

Well, Xharn has directly requested my help and by the terms of our alliance I will provide it, although at this point it won't be alot because i'm fighting another war at the moment.
Hataria
03-02-2007, 20:21
Well, Xharn has directly requested my help and by the terms of our alliance I will provide it, although at this point it won't be alot because i'm fighting another war at the moment.

Well, Asking to be invited is good, at lest it woundn't be bad with you and AMF around
Questers
03-02-2007, 21:10
Hataria...

1.) No aircraft would engage at Mach 5.3 in a dogfight. In fact, no fighter would even be able to go to Mach 5.3 without SERIOUSLY crippling its payload. Mach 5.3 is way too unmanevourable to be used in a dogfight and would actually damage the fihgting capacity of your aircraft.

2.) You can't just put mirrors on planes to make them invisible. That just wouldn't work.

At least your RP is improving. I think though, don't be offended, that you should talk to Axis Nova or me (I'll be glad to help you in any way I can if its going to improve your RP) before implementing new technology.
Automagfreek
03-02-2007, 21:46
That and it's near impossible for a giant blob of 400 fighters to go totally unnoticed. I also want to cite that I have a large and layered sub net, so whatever these '20 somethings' are, I would likely spot and engage them.

I would agree that your RP is improving though, and I echo Questers sentiment that you should consult with Axis Nova. I'm not going to force you to adjust your post, if you're satisfied with it then I will respond accordingly.
Questers
04-02-2007, 03:03
Hataria, an underwater combatant can't move that stealthily - or stealthily at all - at 30 knots.
Hataria
04-02-2007, 03:08
That and it's near impossible for a giant blob of 400 fighters to go totally unnoticed. I also want to cite that I have a large and layered sub net, so whatever these '20 somethings' are, I would likely spot and engage them.

I would agree that your RP is improving though, and I echo Questers sentiment that you should consult with Axis Nova. I'm not going to force you to adjust your post, if you're satisfied with it then I will respond accordingly.

Ok, Oh and those 20 Things are a Surprise. I will Introduce them soon. The only Clue I can give you is that it is a New Type of Sub.
Izistan
04-02-2007, 03:23
Just a little question for Axis (to set my mind at rest). Axis, are you trying to pull off something like Micheal with the platform thing near Gibraltar? >.>
Questers
04-02-2007, 03:25
Ok, Oh and those 20 Things are a Surprise. I will Introduce them soon. The only Clue I can give you is that it is a New Type of Sub.

Why do you always ignore everything everyone says? We're telling you you're effectively godmodding and you're not replying.
No endorse
04-02-2007, 05:42
Alright, let's slow things down a bit and reorganize. Anyone without a valid IC reason to be involved in this thing with Morocco and with Blub? Get out please. This basically means that if Blub -or- Questers did not specifically ask you in, don't join up. The people I see as having a valid reason to be involved in the Xharn, Morocco, and Blub stuff at this time are Blub, myself, Hataria, Questers, Asgarnieu, Xharn, AMF, Allanea, Pantera, and whoever it was that was supplying small arms to the resistance in Morocco.

Everyone else, please restrain yourselves a bit; too many cooks makes a bad dish, and this RP has been showing some promise. I'd rather not have it get crapped up like most RPs with 30-40 people in them do.
-_- Blub and I are allies, and I'm not about to back down if someone is attacking my ally. Plus, I just gave him a LOT of military equipment, and want to see it used well and not fall into Hatarian/Novan hands. (And the No Endorse military-industrial complex wants to get rich off me fighting as well as off Blub needing to buy spares for those ships for years to come)

Yeah I haven't been very active (RL in the way) But I'm about to stick my nose right in this affair, and I'd prefer it if you and Hataria didn't go off like a firecracker when I do.
Blub Empire
04-02-2007, 18:28
-_- Blub and I are allies, and I'm not about to back down if someone is attacking my ally. Plus, I just gave him a LOT of military equipment, and want to see it used well and not fall into Hatarian/Novan hands. (And the No Endorse military-industrial complex wants to get rich off me fighting as well as off Blub needing to buy spares for those ships for years to come)

Yeah I haven't been very active (RL in the way) But I'm about to stick my nose right in this affair, and I'd prefer it if you and Hataria didn't go off like a firecracker when I do.

NE = ally.
Atopiana
04-02-2007, 20:01
We have provided a single under-strength division of (2nd generation Soviet!*) ground forces to assist the Blubs, because we like them.

If you have a problem with this, TOUGH.

* Unlike your LOL SUPA WEPPONZ INNA MT FRED stuff, mine a) exists and b) will be next-to-useless if you invade. :p
Skgorria
04-02-2007, 20:06
I provided Blub with money and special forces training, as well as half a trillion dollars of navy and air defence. ICly, we respect the Blubs fro being valiant and brave warriors. OOC, he's just fecking cool. :D
Axis Nova
04-02-2007, 22:22
Pantera, how close is your fleet to Gibraltar? And Yallak, is your fleet attempting to pass through the Strait? If so, then the platform I put up there may have something to say about that...
Rosanica
04-02-2007, 23:39
Hataria, how is this submarine going to land on the beach exactly...?
Hataria
05-02-2007, 00:18
Hataria, how is this submarine going to land on the beach exactly...?

It doesn't, It Opens a Large Water Tight Door so that landing Craft can go and land.
Yallak
05-02-2007, 06:10
And Yallak, is your fleet attempting to pass through the Strait? If so, then the platform I put up there may have something to say about that...

Yeah thats the intention. What is this platform exactly? And will it fire on anything that attempts to pass because my reasonably small fleet will be just try to pass through without showing any interest in joining the fight in Morocco and the Empire hasn't yet made any statements or declarations regarding it either?
Hataria
05-02-2007, 06:18
I like to known when Chellis had a Magical Fleet that Appears out of No where?
Automagfreek
05-02-2007, 08:05
I like to known when Chellis had a Magical Fleet that Appears out of No where?

Paying attention is a start: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12278828&postcount=52
Pantera
05-02-2007, 16:37
The northern, Gibraltar-watching wing of Brax's fleet would still be in Int'l waters of the Atlantic and is mining the approaches to the fleet from Gibraltar and the southern break-out route. I'll assume that commercial and non-involved shipping lanes will remain open along the Portugeuse coast, so they'll be left alone.
Hataria
05-02-2007, 19:09
The northern, Gibraltar-watching wing of Brax's fleet would still be in Int'l waters of the Atlantic and is mining the approaches to the fleet from Gibraltar and the southern break-out route. I'll assume that commercial and non-involved shipping lanes will remain open along the Portugeuse coast, so they'll be left alone.

Oh Boy, I get to Play with my Mine Sweepers :):):)
Skinny87
05-02-2007, 22:46
Chellis, TG
Automagfreek
05-02-2007, 22:58
...You can't make a missile launching satellite look like a weather satellite.


This.

Because, you know, they have freakin' missiles on them.