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I have an idea for a new style of RP, one which I've not seen done while I've been around, and I believe will be very enjoyable to each of you.

First off, lately I've done many RPs. They've all done well, but each fail for several reasons:

My Vietnam RP failed due to a lack of true objectives. Noone knew what they were doing and finally it collapsed.

My World War Three (first Try) Rp failed because of inactivity on the part of major players. Too much power was placed in the hands of the individuals, and the story could not advance without them.

My Second World War Three RP failed due to too much openness, and not enough realism. It was too open, and this led to much frustration and ultimately its untimely death.


No more. This RP is based upon small scale, character RPs, revolving around Company Level combat. I have several campaigns which I think would be interesting to RP out.


The Battle of Al-Basra:
Al-Basra was one of the critical positions to be taken in the 2003 Invasion of Iraq. As American Marines attacked the city, one battalion is ordered to seize four Key bridges, a Water Treatment Plant, and a port which are critical to the war effort. However, it is defended by a force of 1,200 Iraqi Troops, with an attached Armor Company (12 T-72 Tanks). The American Battalion of 600 Marines must seize this!

I have a map of this area, taken from sattelite photographs of the area, and is shown on a street by street basis. To do this, we would need 6 American players, and 6 Iraqis.


Falkland Islands Conflict (Conflicto de Malvinas)


The Falkland Islands war. This RP follows a battalion of 1,200 Royal Marines as they move across the Islands and attempt to pacify the Island against 3,500 Argentine Conscripts with little armor support on either side. Both sides have availible Air support (I'll explain how that works later).

I need 6 British Commanders and Six Argentines. I have a functional map for this campaign.


Battle of Oakville (Fictional Battle, based on actual events)

In the 1970s, at the height of the Neo-Nazi movement in America, a small town in the mid-west elects the Neo-Nazi party for their Mayor. Immediately, 1,500 Neo-Nazi stalwarts flood the city, taking on the role of the police force. Hazing and discrimination against non-whites runs rampant, and the Governor of the State sends in the National Guard to dispatch the government.

After a two month siege in which the neo-nazis refuse to release power, the Guard Battalion of 600 mechanized Infantry with an attached Armor Platoon (Insert 1975 Tank here).

I need 6 American Company Commanders, and six or more Neo-Nazi Company leader (If you choose to lead the Nazis, no ill thought of you shall be made. Any racist remarks will be considered incharacter, and merely thought to be dramatic effect)

I have a map for this town.

Kuril Islands Conflict:

In the mid-1990s, the Japanese and the Russian Federation went into a hot debate over who controlled the Kuril Islands. Both sides claimed historical possession of these bodies, and both were willing to use force to get them. For this RP, a Brigade of Russian Naval Infantry (Marines, 1,800 me strong with an attached light armor Company (15 BMP-2, 7 T-80s)) invades one of the islands. The JSDF (Japanese Self Defense Force) has a batallion of 700 men stationed on site. The Japanese must turn back the invaders!


Sinai Campaign


Set in the Southern Operations in the Abu-Ageila-Kusseima region, the Egyption 2nd Infantry, supported by an Anti-Tank brigade, as well as an Armored brigade, were attacked by the IDF in the preemptive strike which began the war.

The Central Division, under Maj. Gen. Avraham Yoffe and the southern division under Maj. Gen. Ariel Sharon, advanced into this region. At that moment, Sharon initiated an attack, precisely planned, coordinated and carried out. He sent out two of his brigades to the north of Um-Katef, the first one ordered to break through the defenses at Abu-Ageila to the south, and the second to block the road to El-Arish and to encircle Abu-Ageila from the east. At the same time, a paratrooper force was heliborne to the rear of the defensive positions and destroyed the artillery, preventing it from engaging Israeli armor and infantry.

The purpose of this RP, is to focus on a battalion of IDF soldiers and Egyptian troops in the city of Abu-Ageila. (I'll need to find a better map of the city)


West Bank Campaign: Battle of Ammunition Hill


Israeli Central Command had two Infantry Brigades permenantly stationed in Jerusalem. When on the 5th of June, the Jordanian Army broke through the Northern Command, they advanced on Jerusalem, capturing the Government House which was occupied by UN Observers.

The fighting takes place on June 6th, 1967 at 2:30 AM. The task of capturing the hill was given to the Israeli 3rd company of the 66th regiment, of the Paratroopers brigade's reserve force (55th brigade), led by Lt. Gen. Mordechai "Motta" Gur.

The Israelis must engage a Jordanian Reinforced Company of 150 soldiers of the El-Hussein Regiment. The IDF Forces number at 200 troops, which are later reinforced by the 2nd Company, 66th Regiment.

The post consisted of tens of bunkers built along 3 main trenches, which are set before Har HaTzoffim (Mount Scopus), which was an Israeli enclave in East Jerusalem, and controlled on the road to the old city of West Jerusalem. It is a tough battle, one which cannot be easily won by the Israeli troops....

I need about four commanders for each side. I'm working on a map.



I will put up more options later. Hopefully we can cover numerous historical and fictional battles, and turn this series into a very successful and fun RP. What do you all think?



Members of RP so far:

Osteia
Imitora
Emporer Pudu
Maldorians
Recolitus
New Ausha
Candistan
LNI
PROHT
Romandeos
Tomzilla (?)
Ebedron
Brydog
Copenhaghenkoffenlaugh (GOD! THAT WAS HARD! ;))
Lithoria
Madnestan
Toopoxia
Coniferous
Achillean


RP Currently:

Al-Basra:

Americans:

Osteia
Romandeos
Emporer Pudu
Recolitus


Iraqi:

New Ausha
Maldorians
Candistan
Hurtful Thoughts

Yes! count me in man!!

Concept is interesting enough, I'll keep an eye on it. However, if I do get involved, I would like to make the request that instead of using real world nations, I can use my nation's military.

This is quite interesting to me.

Most interesting, in my opinion, would be the most recent Al-Basra conflict. I'd volunteer as either an British or Iraqi commander (It was elements of the British 7th Armored that captured Al-Basrah first).

Also, you should bring in some more situations. Something from the far east, and maybe something a little old-school, US Civil War style.

I'd take part in any campaign on that list, preferably as a British or an American CO. Also, I might suggest that in some cases, you might try making it possible to pit NS militaries against RL militaries.

~ Romandeos.

Yeah,

i'll take part in any or all of them....

As either...

British or Marines commander....

As I have stated, I am interested and would like to play. However, If I am involved, as opposed to be in command of a full platoon or larger, and I am playing as a RL nation as opposed to my NS nation, I would also like to request that I play as a Special Operations unit. For example, in the first, it would be a 6-8 man Force Recon team or a two man Scout Sniper team. If the second, then it would be an SAS or SBS team. In the third, a Special Forces A team I think would fit best, however, due to the Posse Comitatus act, that would be hard to explain. Regardless of which one, my team would be under the command of one of the other players, but I would actually play the team.

Pudu:

I have close to 50 scenarios written down mate, half of which are in the Far east ;)
I've just not had time to record them all yet. I'll do that tonight.

@Romandeos: Good idea :)

@Osteia: I figured you would. :)

@Imitora: I suppose if when we do the Falkland Islands conflict, you could command part of the 3 Commando SBS or SAS Teams. :)

Can I join?

Wicked

Can I join?

Absolutely. Which one do you think we should do first?

I need a vote!

I would be very interested in taking part in any of these.

Wanderjar


I would like The Battle of Al-Basra


(Galmiria no longer exists!!!!lol!!!! I think we scared him off)

Wanderjar


I would like The Battle of Al-Basra


(Galmiria no longer exists!!!!lol!!!! I think we scared him off)

Ok, it seems so far that one has the vote. I'll get everything together, and try to get more people.

(@ as for Galmiria: Too bad. That RP was fun....:()

I would be very interested in taking part in any of these.

Sounds good mate, I'll begin writing down people who wish to be active in these.

Battle of Oakville

Heck, if there's an American position still open, put me in the Battle for Oakville. If that doesn't work, I'd happily lead a Nazi unit, just to make sure you don't have to run them all.

~ Romandeos.

I'd like to join if you added any more battles. Like Midway or El Alamein.

Battle of Oakville

I think that one will be fun too. I released the three I thought would be the best first, to gather interest. I have close to 50 others which I've either dreamed up or gathered from many of the history books I have laying around ;)

(These include:

Kuril Islands Conflict:

In the mid-1990s, the Japanese and the Russian Federation went into a hot debate over who controlled the Kuril Islands. Both sides claimed historical possession of these bodies, and both were willing to use force to get them. For this RP, a Brigade of Russian Naval Infantry (Marines, 1,800 me strong with an attached light armor Company (15 BMP-2, 7 T-80s)) invades one of the islands. The JSDF (Japanese Self Defense Force) has a batallion of 700 men stationed on site. The Japanese must turn back the invaders!


Sinai Campaign
Set in the Southern Operations in the Abu-Ageila-Kusseima region, the Egyption 2nd Infantry, supported by an Anti-Tank brigade, as well as an Armored brigade, were attacked by the IDF in the preemptive strike which began the war.

The Central Division, under Maj. Gen. Avraham Yoffe and the southern division under Maj. Gen. Ariel Sharon, advanced into this region. At that moment, Sharon initiated an attack, precisely planned, coordinated and carried out. He sent out two of his brigades to the north of Um-Katef, the first one ordered to break through the defenses at Abu-Ageila to the south, and the second to block the road to El-Arish and to encircle Abu-Ageila from the east. At the same time, a paratrooper force was heliborne to the rear of the defensive positions and destroyed the artillery, preventing it from engaging Israeli armor and infantry.

The purpose of this RP, is to focus on a battalion of IDF soldiers and Egyptian troops in the city of Abu-Ageila. (I'll need to find a better map of the city)


West Bank Campaign: Battle of Ammunition Hill


Israeli Central Command had two Infantry Brigades permenantly stationed in Jerusalem. When on the 5th of June, the Jordanian Army broke through the Northern Command, they advanced on Jerusalem, capturing the Government House which was occupied by UN Observers.

The fighting takes place on June 6th, 1967 at 2:30 AM. The task of capturing the hill was given to the Israeli 3rd company of the 66th regiment, of the Paratroopers brigade's reserve force (55th brigade), led by Lt. Gen. Mordechai "Motta" Gur.

The Israelis must engage a Jordanian Reinforced Company of 150 soldiers of the El-Hussein Regiment. The IDF Forces number at 200 troops, which are later reinforced by the 2nd Company, 66th Regiment.

The post consisted of tens of bunkers built along 3 main trenches, which are set before Har HaTzoffim (Mount Scopus), which was an Israeli enclave in East Jerusalem, and controlled on the road to the old city of West Jerusalem. It is a tough battle, one which cannot be easily won by the Israeli troops....

I need about four commanders for each side. I'm working on a map.


Several more scenarios on the way!

I'd like to join if you added any more battles. Like Midway or El Alamein.

Those will come. I just would like to focus on more modern battles for the time being. World War Two is just too over done lately.

I think that one will be fun too. I released the three I thought would be the best first, to gather interest. I have close to 50 others which I've either dreamed up or gathered from many of the history books I have laying around ;)

(These include:

Kuril Islands Conflict:

In the mid-1990s, the Japanese and the Russian Federation went into a hot debate over who controlled the Kuril Islands. Both sides claimed historical possession of these bodies, and both were willing to use force to get them. For this RP, a Brigade of Russian Naval Infantry (Marines, 1,800 me strong with an attached light armor Company (15 BMP-2, 7 T-80s)) invades one of the islands. The JSDF (Japanese Self Defense Force) has a batallion of 700 men stationed on site. The Japanese must turn back the invaders!


Sinai Campaign
Set in the Southern Operations in the Abu-Ageila-Kusseima region, the Egyption 2nd Infantry, supported by an Anti-Tank brigade, as well as an Armored brigade, were attacked by the IDF in the preemptive strike which began the war.

The Central Division, under Maj. Gen. Avraham Yoffe and the southern division under Maj. Gen. Ariel Sharon, advanced into this region. At that moment, Sharon initiated an attack, precisely planned, coordinated and carried out. He sent out two of his brigades to the north of Um-Katef, the first one ordered to break through the defenses at Abu-Ageila to the south, and the second to block the road to El-Arish and to encircle Abu-Ageila from the east. At the same time, a paratrooper force was heliborne to the rear of the defensive positions and destroyed the artillery, preventing it from engaging Israeli armor and infantry.

The purpose of this RP, is to focus on a battalion of IDF soldiers and Egyptian troops in the city of Abu-Ageila. (I'll need to find a better map of the city)


West Bank Campaign: Battle of Ammunition Hill


Israeli Central Command had two Infantry Brigades permenantly stationed in Jerusalem. When on the 5th of June, the Jordanian Army broke through the Northern Command, they advanced on Jerusalem, capturing the Government House which was occupied by UN Observers.

The fighting takes place on June 6th, 1967 at 2:30 AM. The task of capturing the hill was given to the Israeli 3rd company of the 66th regiment, of the Paratroopers brigade's reserve force (55th brigade), led by Lt. Gen. Mordechai "Motta" Gur.

The Israelis must engage a Jordanian Reinforced Company of 150 soldiers of the El-Hussein Regiment. The IDF Forces number at 200 troops, which are later reinforced by the 2nd Company, 66th Regiment.

The post consisted of tens of bunkers built along 3 main trenches, which are set before Har HaTzoffim (Mount Scopus), which was an Israeli enclave in East Jerusalem, and controlled on the road to the old city of West Jerusalem. It is a tough battle, one which cannot be easily won by the Israeli troops....

I need about four commanders for each side. I'm working on a map.


Several more scenarios on the way!



Dude, how do you come up with this??????Do you have AIM or something? Teach me your ways!!!!!!

Dude, how do you come up with this??????Do you have AIM or something? Teach me your ways!!!!!!

LOL! Its all historical, aside from Oakville and Kuril Islands (Which was diverted at the last second, and almost became a hot war in about 1994). I just take battles I think are cool, and select certain smaller aspects which could produce fun RPs.


I would like to add that most of the time, I have no idea what numbers each unit actually had, so I merely fudge it to be fair to both sides ;)

And my AIM is Inquisitor500, but I'm rarely on...:(

LOL! Its all historical, aside from Oakville and Kuril Islands (Which was diverted at the last second, and almost became a hot war in about 1994). I just take battles I think are cool, and select certain smaller aspects which could produce fun RPs.


And my AIM is Inquisitor500, but I'm rarely on...:(



GO ON! cool!

Really, Wanderjar, I'll probably be willing to fight in any scenario you come up with. I absolutely love things like this.

~ Romandeos.

Really, Wanderjar, I'll probably be willing to fight in any scenario you come up with. I absolutely love things like this.

~ Romandeos.

I'm glad to hear that!


It appears that Al-Basra is first, followed by Oakville. Once we get say, four more people, we can start. :D


Damn....this thing has taken off fast!

GO ON! cool!

I can't right now. I'm not at my computer which has AIM on it (And I can't download it here, the internet is horribly slow :()

I call an american platoon commander.....i think i mentioned what i would like to be on page one

I'm glad to hear that!


It appears that Al-Basra is first, followed by Oakville. Once we get say, four more people, we can start. :D


Damn....this thing has taken off fast!

Right on! Just give me some Coalition tanks and let me at 'em!...Just keep the infantry close by me and the Iraqi's big artillery guns offa' my back, yeah? ;)

~ Romandeos.

Hey Wanderjar.

Sounds good, looks like you've polished and tuned up your RP's.

I'm in for the Basra one, as well as ammunition hill. Ill take any side.

Hey Wanderjar.

Sounds good, looks like you've polished and tuned up your RP's.

I'm in for the Basra one, as well as ammunition hill. Ill take any side.

Awsome. Lets see what we have so far:


Al-Basra:

Americans:

Osteia
Romandeos
Emporer Pudu


Iraqi:

New Ausha (I need someone to be the OPFOR, and I'm reserving the last Marine spot for someone else who requested it. If he ends up not showing, you can have it and someone else can get the Iraqi position :))

Awsome. Lets see what we have so far:


Al-Basra:

Americans:

Osteia
Romandeos
Emporer Pudu


Iraqi:

New Ausha (I need someone to be the OPFOR, and I'm reserving the last Marine spot for someone else who requested it. If he ends up not showing, you can have it and someone else can get the Iraqi position :))



HEY! what about me?

Right on! Just give me some Coalition tanks and let me at 'em!...Just keep the infantry close by me and the Iraqi's big artillery guns offa' my back, yeah? ;)

~ Romandeos.

:D


I'm gonna be RPing the High Commands for both sides, basically starting off each RP giving a basic overview of what you all are supposed to do, and RPing support positions such as Artillery and Air support. I will likely also RP an Iraqi Commander in Al-Basra, and in Oakland, I'll take a Nazi Company so other people who have issues being Nazis period can still play, just as a National Guard soldier :)

HEY! what about me?

What spot do you want mate? I don't think you ever said?

And actually, I can have one more American since I asked for 6 American Commanders, not four. So if New Ausha doesn't mind, I'll keep him Iraqi (Since he's a good RPer, not that any of you aren't, but he'd do good with Iraq, I can feel it :))

Maldorians, if you want America, you can have it. If you want Iraq, thats fine too!

I don't care. I just want to be in it. You can decide Wanderjar.

I don't care. I just want to be in it. You can decide Wanderjar.

Iraq it is! ;)


I expect to have to draft people for Iraq, since most will want the United States. Therefore, when telling me you don't care, I'm instantly putting you with the under dog.

Can we post our squad/person here?


O and is it squad based or a person?

Due to personal beliefs, I implore you to allow me to be an American for Al-Basrah. As far as Oakville, I will be either side

I might be interested as one of the Japanese RPers for the Kuril Islands RP. If that is open.

Can we post our squad/person here?


O and is it squad based or a person?

From what I understand, this is a unit-based thing, each person playing a unit's CO in the overall battle.

~ Romandeos.

Sure, I'll take a stab at one of them, assign me a faction and I'll figure out the rest (Names and such).

Reads on...

Iraqi forces, fo shizzle?

I like infantry heavy tactics anyways, though I'll have to take cowardice/poor training into account.

And I'd suggest a 3 x 6 battle, since the americans are outnumbered 2:1.
Limits to the size squad we control would be nice...

Do we assign a chain of command system, where one player is the field commander issuing orders recieved from you (he figures out large unit tactics, all others just hope their squad lives) - Or are all strategic decisions made only by you?

you been busy

I'll join I guess. seems interesting enough.

Sure, I'll take a stab at one of them, assign me a faction and I'll figure out the rest (Names and such).

Reads on...

Iraqi forces, fo shizzle?

I like infantry heavy tactics anyways, though I'll have to take cowardice/poor training into account.

Hurtful Thoughts: I knew you'd be interested. Ignore the TG i just sent you. Glad to have ya!

@Romandeos: You're absolutely correct.

@Tomzilla: That will happen eventually, but right now the consensus is for the Battle of Al-Basra, between American Marines and the Iraqi Army.

@Recolitus: I understand completely. I'll put you down for America. :)

I'm interested, for some reason. :D

and for Basra, I guess I'll be Iraqi (provided you let me join :))

I'll join I guess. seems interesting enough.

Cool, what side?

@ Imperial isa: hey man! Whats happenin?

@Hurtful Thoughts: Lets see what happens, ok?

@Wanderjar: Thank you very much.


Do you have any idea when this will start? I am very excited now =D

I'm interested, for some reason. :D

DUde! I sent you a TG on this, figured you'd like it. This is your thing after all ;)

Woooo hooo!

When's this goin down!

:)

Hurtful Thoughts: I knew you'd be interested. Ignore the TG i just sent you. Glad to have ya!

What TG? I don't see any TG...
We don't need no stinkin TGs!
(or badges)

I said Iraqi a few posts ago

@Wanderjar: Thank you very much.


Do you have any idea when this will start? I am very excited now =D

Actually, its taken off faster than I expected. So probably within the hour. I need to take a shower in a sec, but after I get out, I'll make a thread.


*Updating member list....*

What TG? I don't see any TG...
We don't need no stinkin TGs!
(or badges)

....never mind then. Maybe it didn't send for some reason. :(

I sent you, Cravan, and Questers a TG about it.

Cool, what side?

@ Imperial isa: hey man! Whats happenin?

@Hurtful Thoughts: Lets see what happens, ok?

waiting for my girl to get better

What TG? I don't see any TG...
We don't need no stinkin TGs!
(or badges)

Remember, there is no TG...Bad Joke Alert.

~ Romandeos.

DUde! I sent you a TG on this, figured you'd like it. This is your thing after all ;)

You did? *checks TGs*
Indeed you did. :D

How's it going, man? It's been awhile...

You did? *checks TGs*
Indeed you did. :D

How's it going, man? It's been awhile...

Can't complain at all bro. Just celebrated my 16th Birthday four days ago, bought a Swiss Army Watch, and got back from the movies an hour or so ago.

:D

And you?

waiting for my girl to get better

:(


Hope she feels better.

*looks at member list*
huh!? not a member but fighting? WTF lol

haha lol

*looks at member list*
huh!? not a member but fighting? WTF lol

Sorry lol, forgot to update that one ;)

nah dogg its cool. I just had to take advantoage of it lol

Can't complain at all bro. Just celebrated my 16th Birthday four days ago, bought a Swiss Army Watch, and got back from the movies an hour or so ago.

:D

And you?

Hmm...
Well, I got a bunch of As I Lay Dying and Lamb of God CDs, caught up on Battlestar Galactica, and become aware that the girl I like isn't angry at me after all. So, 'twas a pretty good day for me.

Hmm...
Well, I got a bunch of As I Lay Dying and Lamb of God CDs, caught up on Battlestar Galactica, and become aware that the girl I like isn't angry at me after all. So, 'twas a pretty good day for me.

Most excellent! (Yay for Bill and Ted movies! :D)


Also, Battlestar Galactica is surprisingly good for a Scifi channel show. Usually they suck, but that one....is just awsome!

@Wanderjar: Happy Be-lated Birthday!

nah dogg its cool. I just had to take advantoage of it lol

:D

I hate low-budget sci-fi movies...their plots are rediculous lol

@Wanderjar: Happy Be-lated Birthday!

Thank you!

I hate low-budget sci-fi movies...their plots are rediculous lol

Yeah. But BSG actually looks like they put alot of time and money into it, and it shows. I'm pretty picky about these things too...;)

So, we'll start it after Wanderjar takes his shower, I presume.


Also, I want to clear up something. Is it that I control a squad of Iraqis or one man working in a squad, or what?

:(


Hope she feels better.

she geting there

oh we only started going out after Kylies show tuesday

*fun night that was :D *

So, we'll start it after Wanderjar takes his shower, I presume.


Also, I want to clear up something. Is it that I control a squad of Iraqis or one man working in a squad, or what?

You command a company of Iraqis.

1 Company = 4 Platoons = 16 squads


EDIT:

I'm going for my shower now. Be back in about 20.

I take it Basra is running first? I wish you'd have held this off Wanderjar, too Winter break, a little over a week from now. Meh, ill be able too stay caught up over this weekend.

Can I get some armament specs for my soldiers, or shall I improvise? (I was thinking basic desert camo, old soviet AK's, and some grenades)

Raw numbers would be nice, as well as a basic overview of unit combat experience.

I hate low-budget sci-fi movies...their plots are rediculous lol

Why would you hate them? They're hilarious.

Most excellent! (Yay for Bill and Ted movies! )
"Put them in the iron maiden!"

"Excellent!!!"

"Execute them!"

"Bogus..."
:D

Also, Battlestar Galactica is surprisingly good for a Scifi channel show. Usually they suck, but that one....is just awsome!
QFT.

@Wanderjar: Happy Be-lated Birthday!

I second that.

~ Romandeos.

were there RG's there?

Marines are pretty simple.

Basic M16, Digital Camouflage, etc. I can get some more info right now.

were there RG's there?

Do you mean RPG's?

This is gonna be awesome!!!

And i think he did mean RPG's....

Can I get an idea of everyone time? Im Pacific-Standard, so its 7:46 here. I know this can break RP's, if everyone is in an akward assortment of time zones. Just sayin' :rolleyes:

It's 10:47pm here. Eastern time.

No RPG's are a given. I was asking about Republican Guardsmen

were there RG's there?

were?

Do you mean RPG's?

i think yes

It's 11:48PM here in Atlantic Canada....

@Candisten: They broke up in the 2nd Gulf War.

Ok here is a pretty basic list of common Marine weapons.

Primary Weapons

M16A2/M16A4 - Rifle
M4 Carbine - Rifle
M40 - Sniper Rifle
MP5 - Sub-Machine Gun
M249 Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW) - Automatic Machine Gun
M203 40mm (Attached to M16A2) - Grenade Launcher
AT4 - Anti-Tank Weapon

Secondary Weapons
M1911A1 .45 Caliber Pistol
M9 Beretta 9mm Pistol


If you want Artillery, mortars, or anything else. Just tell me

EDIT: I am Mountain Standard Time so it is 20:51 (8:51PM)

aw weak. so much for confident troops

Awesome,

desert digital cammo, tac vests...kevlar helmets...boots...individual kit...

yeah....

Ok here is a pretty basic list of common Marine weapons.

Primary Weapons

M16A2/M16A4 - Rifle
M4 Carbine - Rifle
M40 - Sniper Rifle
MP5 - Sub-Machine Gun
M249 Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW) - Automatic Machine Gun
M203 40mm (Attached to M16A2) - Grenade Launcher
AT4 - Anti-Tank Weapon

Secondary Weapons
M1911A1 .45 Caliber Pistol
M9 Beretta 9mm Pistol




If you want Artillery, mortars, or anything else. Just tell me

Everybody should please note that most Marines with the M1911A1 bought those themselves or some such, and Beretta's M9 is the standard issue sidearm in the USMC.

Sign me up Chris! For the Marines, of Course!


Ok here is a pretty basic list of common Marine weapons.

Primary Weapons

M16A2/M16A4 - Rifle
M4 Carbine - Rifle
M40 - Sniper Rifle
MP5 - Sub-Machine Gun
M249 Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW) - Automatic Machine Gun
M203 40mm (Attached to M16A2) - Grenade Launcher
AT4 - Anti-Tank Weapon

Secondary Weapons
M1911A1 .45 Caliber Pistol
M9 Beretta 9mm Pistol




If you want Artillery, mortars, or anything else. Just tell me


Mortars: 82mm
Artillery: 155mm
Also, Marines had the Javelin, which would be much more effective than the AT4!

Everybody should please note that most Marines with the M1911A1 bought those themselves or some such, and Beretta's M9 is the standard issue sidearm in the USMC.

For now, as I heard the Special Forces want the 45's back in service as the 9mm often fails to stop insurgents. (Due to them being as fanatic and drugged as they are.)

They get so drugged. I once read a report where reportedly they put a tank round into a house. Then a insurgent got shot my a sniper. He was still alive. 2 grenades later still alive. Two mags of M16 ammo and still alive. He bled to death.

@Romandeos: That is not true. The Marine Corps issues M1911's to Force Recon. Which is the Marines version of SEAL's, if you will.

@Federated Prussia: Your right, can't believe I forgot the kick-ass Javelin

@Romandeos: That is not true. The Marine Corps issues M1911's to Force Recon. Which is the Marines version of SEAL's, if you will.

@Federated Prussia: Your right, can't believe I forgot the kick-ass Javelin

I am aware of that, and I have also heard that some FR units have been issued M-14s as well. I was speaking in regards to rifle units and the like.

~ Romandeos.

so when are we starting?

I don't think Wanderjar is back yet. Since stupid Jolt had to crash..

I don't think Wanderjar is back yet. Since stupid Jolt had to crash..

lot dam jolt

This is gonna be wicked...yes..yes yes yes

they crash at keast once every day...I hate that

Man I really wanna start =/, this sounds so fun.

EDIT: @Candistan: yeah they do, and I noticed it is ALWAYS around this time too. I've sent them multiple email's with no reply

they crash at keast once every day...I hate that

I second that motion, pal.

~ Romandeos.

Man I really wanna start =/, this sounds so fun.

EDIT: @Candistan: yeah they do, and I noticed it is ALWAYS around this time too. I've sent them multiple email's with no reply

And ye shall recieve. Working on it now....just need to find my map.

recolitus: I bet you are one person in a swarm of users who send them emails like that. That explains their lack of interest in it.

Ok here is a pretty basic list of common Marine weapons.

Primary Weapons

M16A2/M16A4 - Rifle
M4 Carbine - Rifle
M40 - Sniper Rifle
MP5 - Sub-Machine Gun
M249 Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW) - Automatic Machine Gun
M203 40mm (Attached to M16A2) - Grenade Launcher
AT4 - Anti-Tank Weapon

Secondary Weapons
M1911A1 .45 Caliber Pistol
M9 Beretta 9mm Pistol


If you want Artillery, mortars, or anything else. Just tell me

EDIT: I am Mountain Standard Time so it is 20:51 (8:51PM)

Just some notes from an AA (America's Army) player who's wanting to partake in this RP despite his new status on these forums (Note, this is done with information from the America's Army forums and a little extrapolation):

The Marines for the most part use M-16A4s with the various optics and other mods associated. And I definately wouldn't discount the presence of M4s in great if not greater quantities than the full sized 16s. MP-5s would probably be the exception rather than the rule, simply because the M4 serves quite well in the same capacity.

I'd expect the AT4 to be more prevailant than the Javalin in actual street-fighting, because there's no need to lug around the extra gear for a Javalin when you could spit and hit the enemy armor. The Javalin comes into its own in longer-ranged semi-urban or rural battlefields.

Marine Snipers also are habitually equipped with M-24s and M-82s; I'm not quite sure about the M-40, but I think that's good info. Marine Designated Marksmen will usually have an M-21 (scoped and accurized M-14) or a scoped M-16.


On the flip side, the Iraqi army can be summed up pretty easily - lots of people with AK-47s, AKS-47s, AKMs. Toss in a few snipers with SVD Draganovs, and a bunch of people with RPGs, Czech weaponry, Chinese knockoffs of AKs, and just about any cheap pistol you could get on the market. Oh, and bricks. Can't forget the bricks :p

And if I were to join, I'd like to be an Iraqi. My time is 10:34PM at the moment, and I'd probably need a short observation time to get the hang of it (watching two or three posts, pretty much).

~ Ferrard

You command a company of Iraqis.

1 Company = 4 Platoons = 16 squads


EDIT:

I'm going for my shower now. Be back in about 20.

hmm, battalions... can I handle such awsome power?

YES!

roughly 11:00 PM where I am as of this posting

Darn, I have to go. See ya all later.

recolitus: I bet you are one person in a swarm of users who send them emails like that. That explains their lack of interest in it.

i think they cant fix it

Just some notes from an AA (America's Army) player who's wanting to partake in this RP despite his new status on these forums (Note, this is done with information from the America's Army forums and a little extrapolation):

The Marines for the most part use M-16A4s with the various optics and other mods associated. And I definately wouldn't discount the presence of M4s in great if not greater quantities than the full sized 16s. MP-5s would probably be the exception rather than the rule, simply because the M4 serves quite well in the same capacity.

I'd expect the AT4 to be more prevailant than the Javalin in actual street-fighting, because there's no need to lug around the extra gear for a Javalin when you could spit and hit the enemy armor. The Javalin comes into its own in longer-ranged semi-urban or rural battlefields.

Marine Snipers also are habitually equipped with M-24s and M-82s; I'm not quite sure about the M-40, but I think that's good info. Marine Designated Marksmen will usually have an M-21 (scoped and accurized M-14) or a scoped M-16.


On the flip side, the Iraqi army can be summed up pretty easily - lots of people with AK-47s, AKS-47s, AKMs. Toss in a few snipers with SVD Draganovs, and a bunch of people with RPGs, Czech weaponry, Chinese knockoffs of AKs, and just about any cheap pistol you could get on the market. Oh, and bricks. Can't forget the bricks :p

And if I were to join, I'd like to be an Iraqi. My time is 10:34PM at the moment, and I'd probably need a short observation time to get the hang of it (watching two or three posts, pretty much).

~ Ferrard

Welcome bro! I'll add ya down. I'm working on the opening even as we speak, but it'll be awhile. I have to find my map, and I cannot post until I have it!

(The map is the key to this entire RP...without it, we'd be wasting our time)

EDIT: I FOUND IT!! YAY! I'll get back to writing now...

they crash at keast once every day...I hate that

The server resets every day at 11 PM, EST. :headbang: It's not that hard to figure out, dammit!

The server resets every day at 11 PM, EST. :headbang: It's not that hard to figure out, dammit!

Hey, calm down. I know that, but that doesn't mean I can't see it as inconvenient.

Now, let us sit here and anticipate this RP beginning.

~ Romandeos.

Heh, I didn't know the server reset. But that clears everything up. lol thank you

Hey, calm down. I know that, but that doesn't mean I can't see it as inconvenient.

Now, let us sit here and anticipate this RP beginning.

~ Romandeos.

DoN'T TELL ME TO CALM DOWN, YOU CALM DOWN!!!

I'LL KILL YOU!!! I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU!!!

I was joking, man. :D

*twiddles thumbs* Just one little question: are we going to play it out the way it historically happened? 'cuz I've read the reports, and the Iraqi's got hosed... totally hosed.

Okay, so they almost held one area of the city, I think... but other than that they got hosed.

~ Ferrard

Let's see if the Iraqis can throw back The United States Marine Corps, the most Elite and Professional Military Fighting Force in the world. ( This of course coming from a future one, so it's biased.)

Chris font forget me!

**Gettin hyped**

Almost time to kick some Iraqi ass....

DoN'T TELL ME TO CALM DOWN, YOU CALM DOWN!!!

I'LL KILL YOU!!! I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU!!!

I was joking, man. :D

Now where did I put my aliminum baseball bat? Hmmm.

Lithoria: I expect we will not be playing as it happened historically, but in a freeform style. It's more interesting like that. Heck, I could win Waterloo as Napoleon in a freeform game.

~ Romandeos.

@Federated Prussia: *cough* Air Force *cough*

Future Airmen right here, sign the papers in March =D

**Gettin hyped**

Almost time to kick some Iraqi ass....

Most fervently agreed =D

*cough* Air Force *cough*

Future Airmen right here, sign the papers in March =D

Good for you! Unfortunately I have some years to go before singing the papers...

Yeah God knows how badly I want to be some sort of Air Force detachment in this, but what can ya do =P

EDIT: 100 POSTS, OH YEA! lol

I'm thinking on it, and will likely enlist in the Corps soon. I'm a very patriotic man, and see military service as a great way to help my country.

~ Romandeos.

Yeah God knows how badly I want to be some sort of Air Force detachment in this, but what can ya do =P

EDIT: 100 POSTS, OH YEA! lol

Come to think of it I'm surprised we don't considering we had air supremacy and Marines at least have Organic Air.

Wander, do we at least get our 155mm's?

I'm thinking on it, and will likely enlist in the Corps soon. I'm a very patriotic man, and see military service as a great way to help my country.

~ Romandeos.

Amen to that

Let's see if the Iraqis can throw back The United States Marine Corps, the most Elite and Professional Military Fighting Force in the world. ( This of course coming from a future one, so it's biased.)

Chris font forget me!

I haven't mate :)


I'm almost done. I just need to upload the Tactical map onto imageshack so the Marines can see my orders. The Iraqis are pretty much allowed to do whatever they want, just as long as they defend the Port. I suggest focusing on fortifying the Bridge, but whatever you want to do....you guys have several Armored units at your disposal, don't forget that (That goes for the Iraqis and the Marines, who both have APCs, such as the BMP-1 and Bradley)

I'm thinking on it, and will likely enlist in the Corps soon. I'm a very patriotic man, and see military service as a great way to help my country.

~ Romandeos.

Good for you! Maybe we'll fight alongside each other. I heard 2008 is going to be the largest recruiting year for the Marines in recent years.

Come to think of it I'm surprised we don't considering we had air supremacy and Marines at least have Organic Air.

Wander, do we at least get our 155mm's?

Yes. But collateral damage is not desired, so it will be limited.

Future Officer of Marines right here boys!

I haven't mate :)


I'm almost done. I just need to upload the Tactical map onto imageshack so the Marines can see my orders. The Iraqis are pretty much allowed to do whatever they want, just as long as they defend the Port. I suggest focusing on fortifying the Bridge, but whatever you want to do....you guys have several Armored units at your disposal, don't forget that (That goes for the Iraqis and the Marines, who both have APCs, such as the BMP-1 and Bradley)

BMP's go bye-bye with the AT missiles on them. I also suggest to the Iraqis to hide and conserve your armor for a counter-attack.

Can I be the crazy ex-Soviet Political Commissar who got lost in Afghanistan, ended up in the middle of Iraq and walks around shooting random people?

Future Officer of Marines right here boys!

Chris and I are going to Annapolis together. Right man ;)

Be nice to the underclassmen ;)

I wanted to go Officer in Air Force, but I decided I am not ready for college right out of high school, So I am gonna enlist.

Plus Air Force doesnt like to make their Officers Security Forces (Military Police), whereas Enlisted get it all the time.

I wanna gonna go Officer in Air Force, but I decided I am not ready for college right out of high school, So I am gonna enlist.

Plus Air Force doesnt like to make their Officers Security Forces (Military Police), whereas Enlisted get it all the time.

My cousin is in the Air Force. Currently teaching in Florida.

^^^^^

Nice one

Good for you! Maybe we'll fight alongside each other. I heard 2008 is going to be the largest recruiting year for the Marines in recent years.

Maybe so, given that the Corps is among the smallest branches in the US Armed Forces.

Wanderjar: I'm going to try for OCS when I enlist, but if I don't make it, maybe I'll end up saluting you.

Enlisted or commissioned, service to one's nation is a great and noble thing.

~ Romandeos.

I think I'll take a group of infantry and try the standard urban tactics - strong hit-and-run ambushes channeling the attackers into a firesack of sorts.

I'll leave the armored stuff to other fellows 'cuz frankly I want to be as far away from those missile-magnets as possible. All those friggin F-16 charlies are gonna be lighting up the T-72s like Christmas trees with Maverick missiles.

~ Ferrard

Man, if I had been born in the 50s, I would have been one of those intelectual guys protesting against the war and listening to good rock music.
Then I'd probably get beaten by the Police, National Guard or something like that.

I think I'll take a group of infantry and try the standard urban tactics - strong hit-and-run ambushes channeling the attackers into a firesack of sorts.

I'll leave the armored stuff to other fellows 'cuz frankly I want to be as far away from those missile-magnets as possible. All those friggin F-16 charlies are gonna be lighting up the T-72s like Christmas trees with Maverick missiles.

~ Ferrard

We Don't get F-16's but I suspect that our Javelins and Abrams will suffice :p

We Don't get F-16's but I suspect that our Javelins and Abrams will suffice :p

I want a tank unit, because the Abrams rocks, especially when it has riflemen and a little artillery supporting it.

~ Romandeos.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12058717#post12058717


UP!

Lets go boys! Have some fun.

I want a tank unit, because the Abrams rocks, especially when it has riflemen and a little artillery supporting it.

~ Romandeos.

Ok, you can command the Armor platoon.

I am not sure what I am going to do lol. I am not "educated" in the art of ground maneuvers. But I will manage I am sure.

Ok, you can command the Armor platoon.

Damn! Beaten to it!

Damn! Beaten to it!

Hes an American. You can use the Iraqi Armor unit (If you're an Iraqi....)

I am not sure what I am going to do lol. I am not "educated" in the art of ground maneuvers. But I will manage I am sure.

Just order peeps to fix bayonets and charge at your enemy, that always works.

Just order peeps to fix bayonets and charge at your enemy, that always works.

Maybe in 1200. :rolleyes:

Hes an American. You can use the Iraqi Armor unit (If you're an Iraqi....)

:headbang: You know im a Marine. Hook me up with my shiny Infantry Company, Sir!

Maybe in 1200. :rolleyes:

Well, who knows, maybe they'll get scared and surrender.

Or, you know, shoot all of you.

Well, who knows, maybe they'll get scared and surrender.

Or, you know, shoot all of you.

more likely the latter.

Wander, I'll take the main thrust on the map towards the Port.

:headbang: You know im a Marine. Hook me up with my shiny Infantry Company, Sir!

Ok then, Inf. you are! let me reupdate the list and make sure I put down enough Marine Companies on the map (I only have four....)

Ok, I have to say I know I will fudge it up if I work as an Officer. May I be a Gunny Sergeant or something, ( Not sure what the Marines use for Squad leaders) and just lead a squad? I understand if you need me as a Company Commander, I will do my best

Ok then, Inf. you are! let me reupdate the list and make sure I put down enough Marine Companies on the map (I only have four....)

Platoon works too, man.

Ok, I have to say I know I will fudge it up if I work as an Officer. May I be a Gunny Sergeant or something, ( Not sure what the Marines use for Squad leaders) and just lead a squad? I understand if you need me as a Company Commander, I will do my best

You can work under me. You'll be a Gunny if I get platoon or a First Sergeant "Top" for a Company.

more likely the latter.

Wander, I'll take the main thrust on the map towards the Port.

Still, there's something about hundreds of guys running at the enemy while yelling at the top of their lungs that reaches me and makes me go all "kewl!"

Still, there's something about hundreds of guys running at the enemy while yelling at the top of their lungs that reaches me and makes me go all "kewl!"

I agree. Until I see the machine guns...

Ok, I have to say I know I will fudge it up if I work as an Officer. May I be a Gunny Sergeant or something, ( Not sure what the Marines use for Squad leaders) and just lead a squad? I understand if you need me as a Company Commander, I will do my best

Well, its really not that tough mate. You basically order your platoons to move to positions, and write them doing it, and fighting in that sense. Not too hard. If you need advice, ask me, I'll help ya ;)

You can work under me. You'll be a Gunny if I get platoon or a First Sergeant "Top" for a Company.

I thought you were Iraqi?

I thought you were Iraqi?

Ah, Hell No. USMC.

It's 1:23 Am....

I have to goto sleep, i REALLY hope this Rp don't go too far ahead..i will reinforce tomorrow!

USMC!

Hooorah!!!

@Federated: Ok well since your Company Commander, I will wait for you to make a post. Just refer to me as Gunnery Sergeant Mueller in your post, so that I know which squad exactly I am.

I agree. Until I see the machine guns...

Well, there's that, but, hey, you can always use the guy in front of you as a meat shield!

Well, there's that, but, hey, you can always use the guy in front of you as a meat shield!

Just Until you go into shock from watching him turn to Butcher's meat...

It's 1:23 Am....

I have to goto sleep, i REALLY hope this Rp don't go too far ahead..i will reinforce tomorrow!

USMC!

Hooorah!!!

I doubt it'll go too far ahead. I think there won't be much action until tommorrow ;)

OH! And also, Federated, please tell me where I am starting lol, once I have this info, I can pretty much move on my own =D

Sounds good, i'll move up the rear and reinforce the marines already in battle....

lol, me and my 3,000,000 questions.


@Federated: Am I the First Sergeant? Or?

Ok, I'm going to explain how the map works:

Blue squares with Xs are Infantry Companies. Blue Squares with circles in them are Armor Companies (or platoons as the case may be).

Same goes with the Iraqis, except they are Red.

lol, me and my 3,000,000 questions.


@Federated: Am I the First Sergeant? Or?

Lol dont worry. Ask all you want. Yes you are. I'm planning to have the platoon leader hit so you can lead first platoon on point.

I'll use my "pacifism" attack which gives any unit 30 feet from me a -4 Modifier on their Attack Throws (using 1d20) and defense checks.

HUZZAH!

I'll use my "pacifism" attack which gives any unit 30 feet from me a -4 Modifier on their Attack Throws (using 1d20) and defense checks.

HUZZAH!

I dislike hippies!

I dunno if anyone else has this idea also, but if we (the Iraqi's) can get about ten RPGs to fire all at an Abrams while it's crossing the river, then it'll probably be M-killed right on the bridge, effectively blocking passage that way.

Then Iraqi armor could push up from the south bridge, (which hopefully hasn't been reached yet) and tear into the Americans from behind.

And we could do an infantry sweep up from the south if my guys can hold the residential area.

~ Ferrard

I dislike hippies!

Quoted for truthfulness and agreement

^I like that plan

I dunno if anyone else has this idea also, but if we (the Iraqi's) can get about ten RPGs to fire all at an Abrams while it's crossing the river, then it'll probably be M-killed right on the bridge, effectively blocking passage that way.

Then Iraqi armor could push up from the south bridge, (which hopefully hasn't been reached yet) and tear into the Americans from behind.

And we could do an infantry sweep up from the south if my guys can hold the residential area.

~ Ferrard

Awsome dude. That is what I'm talkin about! Communicate guys! Thats the way to fight and win.

I dunno if anyone else has this idea also, but if we (the Iraqi's) can get about ten RPGs to fire all at an Abrams while it's crossing the river, then it'll probably be M-killed right on the bridge, effectively blocking passage that way.

Then Iraqi armor could push up from the south bridge, (which hopefully hasn't been reached yet) and tear into the Americans from behind.

And we could do an infantry sweep up from the south if my guys can hold the residential area.

~ Ferrard

Are you sure 10 RPG's can disable a Abrams if it hits the front armor?

@Federated: Ok so where exactly on the map do you have us positioned? Gahh this would be easier with AIM... =/

Are you sure 10 RPG's can disable a Abrams if it hits the front armor?

Ten RPG-7s? Yes. But I'd aim for their sides. The Armor is weaker, and you can damage the treads, disabling it.

@Federated: Ok so where exactly on the map do you have us positioned? Gahh this would be easier with AIM... =/

I have MSN, not AIM. Sorry. I'm not sure yet. I just know where just the main thrust towards the Port.

@Iraqi's: We can push the brigde plan one step further by taking out the rear vehicle at the same time as the front one, bottlenecking the tanks and men on the bridge.

OK!

I'm gonna color coordinate companies now. One second while I redraw the map, and tell assign each of you a color, that way, you all know your objectives and your waypoints (As well as your unit! :P)

Email me your MSN address please

Ten RPG-7s? Yes. But I'd aim for their sides. The Armor is weaker, and you can damage the treads, disabling it.

Have you seen how much damage those things can take? =o
From wiki:


Listing of the 18 Abrams disabled in Desert Storm
Bumper # Type of Weapon Place & Date Description of damage Casualties
Unknown number[7]

TF 1-5 CAV
Mine Feb 19

Ruqi Pocket
Tracks/Engine None
Unknown number[8]

1st Brigade, 2nd Armored Division
Mine Feb 24

Southern Kuwait
Tracks None
Bumper B-66[9]

TF 1-41, 3rd Armored Division
Three DU kinetic energy rounds, after being hit by Iraqi RPGs Feb 26

Norfolk line
Penetration in the hull,

below the turret
1 KIA,

2 WIAs
Bumper B-22

TF 1-41, 3rd Armored Division
One DU kinetic energy round Feb 26

Norfolk line
Front slope hit

with no internal damage
1 WIA
Bumper A-14

TF 1-41, 3rd Armored Division
One DU kinetic energy round Feb 26

Norfolk line
One hit in the left side of the hull. Extensive damage by fire 3 WIAs
Bumper A-31

TF 1-41, 3rd Armored Division
Splinters of one DU penetrator Feb 26

Norfolk line
Hit in the rear left hull 4 WIAs
Bumper A-33

TF 1-41, 3rd Armored Division
Two DU rounds, after being hit by TOW missile Feb 26

Norfolk line
Double penetration of the hull 3 WIAs
Bumper D-24

TF 1-37, 1st Armored Division 1st Armored Division,
Small caliber shaped charge Feb 26

Assault on Tawakalna Division
Impact on NBC exhausts, compartment penetrated 2 WIAs
Bumper B-23

TF 1-37, 1st Armored Division
Large caliber shaped charge, then hit by an unknown round, likely a KE (non-DU) Feb 26

Assault on Tawakalna Division
Two hits, one on the rear grills, another penetrated both sides of the hull. Catastrophic damage by fire 1 WIA
Bumper C-12

TF 1-37, 1st Armored Division
One DU kinetic energy penetrator, then hit by antitank missile Feb 26

Assault on Tawakalna Division
KE round achieved a double penetration of the hull. The antitank missile set the storage area of the turret on fire None
Bumper C-66

TF 1-37, 1st Armored Division
Two small shaped charges Feb 26

Assault on Tawakalna Division
Small penetration of the left rear side of the hull. Impact on the turret defeated by armor 3 WIAs
Bumper C-12[10]

TF 4-8th CAV, 3rd Armored Division
73 mm shell from a BMP-1 Feb 26

Assault on Tawakalna Division
Minor damage to sponson box and .50 machine-gun 1 WIA
Bumper K-42[11]

2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment
Struck by DPICM artillery Feb 26

Assault on Tawakalna Division
Loader machine-gun and left fuel cell destroyed 1 WIA
Unknown number

197th Brigade, 24 Infantry Division
Crippled by enemy fire, then destroyed by DU rounds Feb 27

Assault on Tallil airfield
Ammunition blown-up None
Unknown number

197th Brigade, 24 Infantry Division
Stuck in mud, then destroyed by DU rounds Feb 27

Assault on Tallil airfield
Ammunition blown-up None
Unknown number

197th Brigade, 24 Infantry Division
Stuck in mud, then destroyed by DU rounds Feb 27

Assault on Tallil airfield
Ammunition blown-up None
Unknown number[12]

Commander tank, TF 4-64 Armour, 24 Infantry Division
Two conventional KE or HEAT rounds from a 100 mm gun Feb 27

South-west of Basra
120 mm gun and fuel-cell punctured None
Unknown number[13]

2nd Platoon, A Company, TF 4-64, 24 Infantry Division
Three conventional KE rounds from an Iraqi T-72 March 2

Rumeilah Oilfields
Two partial penetrations on the turret right side armor. Storage area devastated by fire. Only cosmetic damage in the turret front DU armor 1 WIA

[edit] Iraq 2003-

Are you sure 10 RPG's can disable a Abrams if it hits the front armor?

Simple solution to the armor problem: Make it 20 rockets. Or 30. An Abrams on patrol was completely and truly disabled by about fifteen RPG hits in Iraq in late 2003; the insurgents just kept pounding it over and over, and even composite armor has its limits. The tracks aren't protected, and neither is a lot of other important stuff. Of course, that's probably the most coordinated an attack as there has ever been on an Abrams.

~ Ferrard

Email me your MSN address please

counterstrikefreak266@hotmail.com

Also from Wiki:

The M1A2/M1A1 can survive multiple hits from the most powerful tank munitions (including 120 mm depleted uranium APFSDS) and anti-tank missiles[citation needed]. In the Persian Gulf War, Abrams tanks survived multiple hits at relatively close ranges from Iraqi T-72's, ATGM's. M829 "Silver Bullet" APFSDS rounds from other M1A1 Abrams were unable to penetrate the front and side armor (even at close ranges) in friendly fire incidents as well as an incident in which another Abrams tried to destroy an Abrams that got stuck in mud and had to be abandoned.

Also from Wiki:

The M1A2/M1A1 can survive multiple hits from the most powerful tank munitions (including 120 mm depleted uranium APFSDS) and anti-tank missiles[citation needed]. In the Persian Gulf War, Abrams tanks survived multiple hits at relatively close ranges from Iraqi T-72's, ATGM's. M829 "Silver Bullet" APFSDS rounds from other M1A1 Abrams were unable to penetrate the front and side armor (even at close ranges) in friendly fire incidents as well as an incident in which another Abrams tried to destroy an Abrams that got stuck in mud and had to be abandoned.

best in the world!

I dislike hippies!

Hippies > you, and everyone else on this thread.

Except me and TWSP, because we sorta are hippies.

Hippies > you, and everyone else on this thread.

Except me and TWSP, because we sorta are hippies.

My statement stands.

@Iraqi's: We can push the brigde plan one step further by taking out the rear vehicle at the same time as the front one, bottlenecking the tanks and men on the bridge.

I was thinking about it, but I think it'd be a waste of an RPG team, because if the Americans are crossing the bridge, they'd have already sanitized their end of the crossing.

~ Ferrard

[sssh...don't tell the americans this...but if you hit the tread...it is crippled]

How do you do R.P.s I am new to this part of the game and would like to know how to but am not sure. Please let me know thank you.

Hippies > you, and everyone else on this thread.

Except me and TWSP, because we sorta are hippies.

Yeah, heavily armed hippies for that matter.

Plus, we all know Canada will eventually conquer the world.

[sssh...don't tell the americans this...but if you hit the tread...it is crippled]

And also, we can think of it like the Somalis in Mogadishu regarding the Black Hawk Helicopters: Shoot everything you have at 'em, a rocket's going to hit something vital eventually.

~ Ferrard

@Ferrard: You gotta remember RPG's are hella inaccurate unless you are RIGHT on top of the target

Ok, companies with blue Xs inside their square or a blue circle are Marines. If the X or circle is Red, its an Iraqi Company, got it?

MARINES!:

Prussia: You're Dark blue (Kinda greyish...)

Osteia: You regular Blue

Romandeos: You're Blue with a blue circle





IRAQIS!:
Lithoria: You're Brown

Candistan: You're Red

(More coming...)

Where the hell is this port on the map? lol

@Ferrard: You gotta remember RPG's are hella inaccurate unless you are RIGHT on top of the target

Yep; there-in lies the gamble... can we saturate the target with enough rockets that a number of them will hit and maybe one or two cause critical damage before we're brutally suppressed by American firepower...

As a further flanking idea, we could commandeer a small flotilla of boats and land a sizable group of crazies with AK-47s behind the Americans once they move towards the bridge...

~ Ferrard

EDIT: Yay for maps!

Ok, companies with blue Xs inside their square or a blue circle are Marines. If the X or circle is Red, its an Iraqi Company, got it?

MARINES!:

Prussia: You're Dark blue (Kinda greyish...) (hey TPF!)

Osteia: You regular Blue

Romandeos: You're Blue with a blue circle





IRAQIS!:
Lithoria: You're Brown

Candistan: You're Red

(More coming...)

Did you not know who I was!? =o

Chris, what's your MSN messager?

Where the hell is this port on the map? lol

Lemme mark it and show you:


http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4739/copy2ofbasrapalacedgtt5.jpg
It has a big yellow circle around it.

Did you not know who I was!? =o

I hadn't checked my myspace until a couple seconds ago...:P

I hadn't checked my myspace until a couple seconds ago...:P

I only said your first name 150 times bro.

I only said your first name 150 times bro.

.....Good point. Didn't think about that. LOL



I'm headin to bed for the evening. I'll set up a map in a moment and post it tommorrow. We'll get this whole thing straightened out in the morning.

Cheers!

.....Good point. Didn't think about that. LOL



I'm headin to bed for the evening. I'll set up a map in a moment and post it tommorrow. We'll get this whole thing straightened out in the morning.

Cheers!

=[! and the Annapolis thing. Dummy!

Sounds good - I'll be on watch for updates starting 'round 8 or 9 ^-^

And I'm wondering if it'd be nice for the Iraqis just to drop the entire northern span into the water... maybe with some of the American tanks still on it?

~ Ferrard

Sounds good - I'll be on watch for updates starting 'round 8 or 9 ^-^

And I'm wondering if it'd be nice for the Iraqis just to drop the entire northern span into the water... maybe with some of the American tanks still on it?

~ Ferrard

Damnit! I was hoping you wouldn't think of that. Luckily us Marines love to swim!

ill get up around 10 tommrow then have work out till 12 so ill check in 12:30

Damnit! I was hoping you wouldn't think of that. Luckily us Marines love to swim!

ill get up around 10 tommrow then have work out till 12 so ill check in 12:30

Oh drat, the imperialist demons are emerging from the water like those sea monsters gramps used to tell us about. Soooo glad y'all don't have Navy SEALs though...

Still wondering about the sea-borne flanking though... combine with a force of infantry advancing north from the woods/residential area... pin the American's in place so that we can call down our limited artillery on a concentration of Americans.

~ Ferrard

Oh drat, the imperialist demons are emerging from the water like those sea monsters gramps used to tell us about. Soooo glad y'all don't have Navy SEALs though...

Still wondering about the sea-borne flanking though... combine with a force of infantry advancing north from the woods/residential area... pin the American's in place so that we can call down our limited artillery on a concentration of Americans.

~ Ferrard

You are forgetting about Force Recon!

You are forgetting about Force Recon!

Eeep... right... Force Recon... SEALs are still better though =P

~ Ferrard

I'd like to be a Nazi in that thread in America. I'm not actually a Nazi, dont worry, I just thought that would make for some interesting RPing.

Eeep... right... Force Recon... SEALs are still better though =P

~ Ferrard

You did not Just Say that

I'd like to be a Nazi in that thread in America. I'm not actually a Nazi, dont worry, I just thought that would make for some interesting RPing.

You go man! I love playing the "bad" people. Sometimes I'll humanize them as a point that "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter", and sometimes I just love playing them 'cuz you don't have to worry about all those "international rules of warfare" and all that gobbledy-gook :p

You did not Just Say that

Ehehee... are my squid tentacles showing? I really should tuck them under my jacket more securely...

If I had to join a military service, I'd choose either the Navy or the Coast Guard (I'd probably fail the Army and Marine physicals, and my eyesight is abysmal, so I can't be an Air Force pilot)

~ Ferrard

See you guys in a few hours. Beddy bye time. I posted ICly. Just too be clear, I hold a company right? say 200 men?

@New Ausha: Only problem with your Map I think, is that it is right on top of where the Marines start. If you look at the Marine Orders map, that is where we all start out from =P

Just a random question a'fore I sleep... Is the way I've been posting IC acceptable? I'm wanting to just show the battle from individual perspectives in "my" units (southern detatchment) and write in novel format.

~ Ferrard

Disapear for a few hours to go see a movie and grab a bite to eat, and this thing shoots off like shit...so, what was the final call, and where is everyone, and where do I fit in?

@ Imitora: From what I can tell, no one's discounted the presence of FR, so I'd say you can play 'em if you want.

And where is that newly edited map? (curious)

~ Ferrard

Ok....Wow...

I left for afew hours, whats going on and where do i reinforce?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=510232

Take a look at this thread - there's a map with orders for the Marines concerning objectives and possible routes to them. The current situation, from what you know, is that the lead unit took brief fire from snipers as they sent scouts to cross one of the bridges. Other than that, there hasn't been any contact.

And, of course, correct me if I'm wrong about that, anyone.

~ Ferrard

In my opinion we need much clearer maps. Here are some:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/Patriot90/albasrah1.jpg
Basically the same as the other picture


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/Patriot90/albasrah2.jpg
This is just slightly Northwest of the other photo.



I figure we dont have to be picky, we can ignore the cars on the roads, etc. But with these images it is A LOT more clear what can be used for cover.


And we really need to consolidate and decide where everyone is starting from. I am willing to make a really nice tactical map for Iraq and The United States. Would you guys be interested? I can already use some of the info we have. But right now, we have people basically putting their troops where the US guys thought they were starting lol. So I am more than willing to make a map.




EDIT: And if need be I can get more clear images of smaller areas, so that you know what the area your moving in looks like =). We could even just make an imagery thread for this RP.

I went ahead and made the tactical maps, If you need me to change anything, just tell me:


Key
Blue Thumbtack: Marine Location
Red Thumbtack: Iraqi Location
White Thumbtack: Critical Point
Green Thumbtack: Marine Critical Objective Point
Yellow Line: Iraqi Defensive Line
Light Blue Line: IED infected road

Port Tactical Map
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/Patriot90/Port.jpg





Iraqi Tactical Map 1
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/Patriot90/Iraqi1.jpg



Iraqi Tactical Map 2
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/Patriot90/Iraqi2.jpg




Marine Tactical Map 1
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/Patriot90/Marine1.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m78/kadangadooo/MarineObjective2.jpg


Yellow-infantry positions
blue dots-MG nests
red dot-company HQ

I will add those.

ok

Maps updated

Is there still room in this RP?

Is there still room in this RP?

lol, I thought you were apart of the RP. Didn't you already join?

Negative. You are probably thinking of Candistan.

Oooo... pwetty pictures - praise is definately warranted except for one small detail... which side do the Marines "spawn" on? I thought the scenario started with them in the Northwest corner, not the south...

~ Ferrard

Oh.... hahahah, I never even noticed the difference till now.

@Lithoria: Well..... the problem with that is, in reality they would come from the southeast. Kuwait is south of Al-Basrah, therefore it makes sense for them to come from the South not the North.

EDIT: They would come from southeast not southwest

So is this thread still open?

Yeah I would think so at least, but you have to ask Wanderjar. We just barely got started so I don't see why he wouldnt let you.

@ Recolitus: Hrm... makes sense, but if so then I'd deploy my forces differently. And sometimes the weirdest things happen on the battlefield.

@ Canadstein: Your name really does bear striking resemblence with the other - I do believe this is still open.

~ Ferrard

If you wanna move stuff around by all means do so, I am more than happy to rearrange things

I think I'll troll Google for a report on the battle to see where they started from.

I shall return with news soon (Google, don't fail me now!)

~ Ferrard

Old News found, and it's kinda strange.

Just from googling "Capture of Al Basra", I figured out that there wasn't an actual pitched battle there... There were a few British commando raids, and the majority of the city went without a fight because of Psy-Ops. At one point a British unit thrust into the city itself, but there was never a real battle.

And no mention what-so-ever of the Marines... O_o

Edit: You are right, however, the British main presence was in the south, and not the Northwest.

~ Ferrard

Okay, looking at the map and trying to plan out a defense against the south is horrible. It's a rather boring event that will eventually go to the United States because there is no way at all for the Iraqi's to defend the Eastern bridge short of dropping it in the water. Those are perfectly flat, completely open gravel lots, or something similar, and anything the Iraqi's place there would be pounded into oblivion. The bottle-neck in the south could be defended, but that doesn't matter much if the U.S. swings east, crosses the east bridge while calling in air-strikes and arty hits on anything moving on the island. The U.S. takes the port without much ado, and the Iraqi's lose the scenario.

To put it plain, the terrain to the south and east is horribly tilted towards the technologically superior U.S. and would result in a pretty boring whopping of the Iraqis, while the terrain to the north and west is urban/close quarters, which usually splits about fifty-fifty, which would leave things open for stuff to happen.

~ Ferrard

Also from Wiki:

The M1A2/M1A1 can survive multiple hits from the most powerful tank munitions (including 120 mm depleted uranium APFSDS) and anti-tank missiles[citation needed]. In the Persian Gulf War, Abrams tanks survived multiple hits at relatively close ranges from Iraqi T-72's, ATGM's. M829 "Silver Bullet" APFSDS rounds from other M1A1 Abrams were unable to penetrate the front and side armor (even at close ranges) in friendly fire incidents as well as an incident in which another Abrams tried to destroy an Abrams that got stuck in mud and had to be abandoned.

I read that, it was unoccupied, as the shock waves of such hits would surely injure or kill the crew, a standard 120 mm Abrams shell penetrated the rear turret overhang, cooking off the ammo, blow out panels kept the damage from spreading to the rest of the tank, but any nearby infantry would consider it like ERA plate going off... with shrapnel behind it...

Iraqi 'homegrown' shells were crappy... good for practice at the target range and looking good during excercises though...

I guess I'd like to place mysef by a bridge, with the 'island' being my last line of defense, I'd also set up demolition charges upon the bridges, and wait for a pile of Abrams to attempt to cross before blowing them up... *gives a sniper remote detonator*

Here is what I recommend then. Recall your troops to the city. You have more of chance there then, plus it would be easier to ambush the US. But I must say your right, you have no chance in the south or east really.


If this is what you decide to do, tell me and edit one of the maps where you want your people and I will edit the other maps.

Wow... I'm gone for one night, and fifteen pages apear.

I really wanted to do that Basrah thing, as the BRITISH 7th Armored Brigade, who really fought this battle. Meh.

Just hook me up with something in the future.

We've kinda stalled because of a mixup, but I think you can still join in. (And yes, I'm aware it's really supposed to be a British unit... that little fact got lost somewhere along the way)

~ Ferrard

We've kinda stalled because of a mixup, but I think you can still join in. (And yes, I'm aware it's really supposed to be a British unit... that little fact got lost somewhere along the way)

~ Ferrard

It was British Marines wasn't it?

Can someone tell me when the Falkan Islands War begins, I'll be an Argentinian commander. Prepare to get your asses un-realistaclly kicked :p

It was British Marines wasn't it?

Yeah, but for some reason it's U.S. Marines that're doing the assault in this RP... *shrugs*

~ Ferrard

Yeah, but for some reason it's U.S. Marines that're doing the assault in this RP... *shrugs*

~ Ferrard

There was a similar battle where U.S. Marines seized bridges, that's probably why.

Can someone tell me when the Falkan Islands War begins, I'll be an Argentinian commander. Prepare to get your asses un-realistaclly kicked :p

British PWN j00

British PWN j00

Please... The only reason the British won was because our weapons were made full-automatic, and the damn gun's round was too big for it to be effective that way. Just in case you didn't know, both armies used the same weapon. (FN FAL) And I plan to use it Semi-Automatic.

I blame 'rabbit-posting'

Please... The only reason the British won was because our weapons were made full-automatic, and the damn gun's round was too big for it to be effective that way. Just in case you didn't know, both armies used the same weapon. (FN FAL) And I plan to use it Semi-Automatic.

Please, perhaps the British used the FN FAL many years ago not now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L85

Edit: Sorry, I though you were talking about Iraq.

I blame 'rabbit-posting'

Could you please enlight me to what this means? I haven't really learned much of the Nation States slang here, lol.

Please, perhaps the British used the FN FAL many years ago not now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L85

Duh. The Falkan Islands War was "many years ago"; this is a re-creation of that war, so the Argentina can get what they rightly deserve, the Falkan Islands...

im back.