NationStates Jolt Archive

Ok, so everyone knows the drill. I am wanting to do a WWII style rp. Meaning that each person who signs up can be a country, a character within a country, etc. Its all open-ended. The time period would be mainly starting in 1938, when Hitler has just taken over Czechoslovakia.

I ask that everyone at least knows the basics on WWII (which we all should if you actually listened in high school) and be aware of the people they are rp'ing. If you are rp'ing Nevielle Chamberlain, then you're going to be slightly too trusting of Hitler; if you're rp'ing Stalin, then you're going to be a paranoid bastard who shoots everyone then asks questions. Thats just a short representation of what I mean. Wikipedia is a great source for those who wish to study further.

However this doesn't mean we have to have a replay of WWII. We're all a lot smarter than Hitler, Stalin, or a few others, so I think we can make our own mistakes by setting our own course of affairs after that point. So in retrospect, I'm saying that everything that happened up to 1938 has already happened. From that starting point, its our boat to stear. Get it?

The time start off also means that everyone starts with the level of technology that was present at that time. Meaning that the Russians do not have hordes of T-37s out, the United States is not geared for war, Germany doesn't have V2 rockets, etc. Everything that was there at that specific time, is there. No more or its just plain godmoding. Of course it can change, slowly, as you advance in technology.

So who wants to sign up onto this jaunt? Just as a pre-lim, I'll write up a list of nations, below.


Nations
Nazi Germany - Thrashia (and Osteia)
USSR - Red Tide2
Ireland - Yderia II
Great Britain - Ostroeuropa
France
Spain - The first Jedi Order
Italy - Voxio
Yugoslavia
Greece - Chellis
Turkey - Maldorians
Romania
Hungary - The blessed Chris
China - Maldaathi
Japan - Waldenburg 2
Australia - Azaranthia
United States - 1010102
Brazil
Mexico
Canada - The United Ed States
Norway - ChevyRocks
Sweden
Finland - Candistan
Denmark
Belgium
Luxembourg
Poland - Madnestan
Switzerland - Kulikovia
Saudi Arabia - Brazilam
Siam

Factbooks
Germany (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506246)
Finland (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread....9#post11927249)
Saudi Arabia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11916696#post11916696)
Norway (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506266)
Italy (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread....5#post11917575)
Russia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506248)
United States (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11922269#post11922269)

Important Threads
Europe Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11921714#post11921714)
Africa Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11935167#post11935167)
East-Asia Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11935178#post11935178)
North & South Americas Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11935191#post11935191)

WWII Tanks and other links (http://www.achtungpanzer.com/rl.htm)

Nazi Germany, or some one in it....

I wanted to do somthing like this, i was thinking of a WW1 scenario with trenches and shit but this works!

This sounds fun. I'll be Great Britain.

Russia looks tasty right now, but I don't have the time for this now :-(

USA all the way.

The United States.

USA all the way.

Dang you and my slow computer!

Meh, then I'll be France. I always wanted to RP resistence.

Dang you and my slow computer!

Meh, then I'll be France. I always wanted to RP resistence.

:D


My computer is as slow as hell so your computer must be from the 80s.

Ok, I reserve Germany for myself...but you can be an important figure in the government Osteia, don't worry.

Ok, I will adjust the nations for those that are taken. Everyone seems pretty enthusaistic, which is a good sign. Any other takers?

Well I can't say no to mindless hoardes of Japanesse Automatons. So i'll take Japan if possible.

Lol ^^^^

Ok, I reserve Germany for myself...but you can be an important figure in the government Osteia, don't worry.

Ok, I will adjust the nations for those that are taken. Everyone seems pretty enthusaistic, which is a good sign. Any other takers?

Sounds good to me, tell me who i can be and i'll pick one....

I understand this is not historical...

The guy with Japan. You may have an arse full of willing conscripts, but i have to suggest you import weapons from russia, and make a good ass alliance with them, if you plan on attacking China or holding your own against the USA.

I'll Be Canada!!!!! Beware Nazi's; when we roll into france, there will be no escape, we'll take it back hard and fast :mp5:

lol @ 1010102

Anyways, what about Saudi Arabia? They entered after Pearl Harbor.

Hmm...

Swiss sound good

Sign me up for Italy.

Sounds good to me, tell me who i can be and i'll pick one....

I understand this is not historical...

I'll have you be Günther von Kluge. You'll like I think.

@Philadublina: I won't accept you unless you can get an experianced player to vouch for you, or you can show an example of your writing that is consiberably good. I don't want any crap being thrown in this rp. Good writing is a must.

I'll have you be Günther von Kluge. You'll like I think.

@Philadublina: I won't accept you unless you can get an experianced player to vouch for you, or you can show an example of your writing that is consiberably good. I don't want any crap being thrown in this rp. Good writing is a must.

O0o0o i do like!!

Thank you!

O0o0o i do like!!

Thank you!

Welcome, I think wiki has a good article on him if you need background information.

Welcome, I think wiki has a good article on him if you need background information.


I know a bit about him but i'll refer to that aswell...

I'll Be Canada!!!!! Beware Nazi's; when we roll into france, there will be no escape, we'll take it back hard and fast :snip:

Just as a tip: Never use gunsmilies or people will think bad about your RP'ing abilities.

I'll be Switzerland

Do we have to make a factbook?

The Soviet Union! For the CCCP Comrades!

Yeah are factbooks nessasary?

I'll be Switzerland

I got you already. I'm updating the first post each time I see someone claim a country.

EDIT: A factbook would be nice, if only to keep track of your nations military, prominant figures, economy, and so on. However you are not required to keep one.

Finland all the way! Hooray for Jaalkavaki! Pansaari! Jaakari! Baron Mannerheim! Hakaristi! Yeah as you can see I like the fighting Fins lol. Can I be them?

I got you already. I'm updating the first post each time I see someone claim a country.

EDIT: A factbook would be nice, if only to keep track of your nations military, prominant figures, economy, and so on. However you are not required to keep one.

Do you have a good source for National stats? On wiki I have stats only for the US pacific fleet.

I got you already. I'm updating the first post each time I see someone claim a country.

EDIT: A factbook would be nice, if only to keep track of your nations military, prominant figures, economy, and so on. However you are not required to keep one.


Maybe we should make this an offsite RP then?

Maybe we should make this an offsite RP then?

Naw, its too much trouble for me to create it. As it is, we'll keep it as orderly as possible.

101 - I will provide you with the US's pre-war standing concerning the army. Use wiki's article on the navy.

Im more confortable with an on-site Rp...

Im Rping Field Marshall Gunther Hans Von Kluge, will i need a factbook for him?

He commands the 4th army or what ever Thrashia gives to him..

Naw, its too much trouble for me to create it. As it is, we'll keep it as orderly as possible.

101 - I will provide you with the US's pre-war standing concerning the army. Use wiki's article on the navy.

ok.

Very well... Ill get on it.

US troop levels in 1938 were at around between 50,000 - 120,000. I'll leave you to pick which level you wish to be at 101.

US troop levels in 1938 were at around between 50,000 - 120,000. I'll leave you to pick which level you wish to be at 101.

I'll put it at around 70,000-90,000.

Ooh, ooh, I call Norway.

Im more confortable with an on-site Rp...

Im Rping Field Marshall Gunther Hans Von Kluge, will i need a factbook for him?

He commands the 4th army or what ever Thrashia gives to him..

No need to worry about a factbook, once I create Germany's factbook you can make a post concerning Kluge. As for what he'll be commanding...I haven't decided yet, but you can be sure that he has the same rank he held in 1938 and post.

No need to worry about a factbook, once I create Germany's factbook you can make a post concerning Kluge. As for what he'll be commanding...I haven't decided yet, but you can be sure that he has the same rank he held in 1938 and post.

Ok great...

wait 1938. damn to late to save honest abe and to soon to save kenedy.

The guy with Japan. You may have an arse full of willing conscripts, but i have to suggest you import weapons from russia, and make a good ass alliance with them, if you plan on attacking China or holding your own against the USA.

Weapons from a country barely able to arms it's own military? Japan has quite an efficient arsenal, and has been a power since the Meji restoration. As for America who says I need to go to war I have some time to plan. Not even to mention the fact that Japan is in Non-comintern Alliance with Germany, against the rise of communisim.

I'll keep the sign-up open until all the contries are taken. In the mean time, until we start the rp, I would like it everyone (who wants to) make a factbook, or start one, and post a link of it in here. I will continually update the first post of this thread to keep things in one place.

Nuff said.

how our we gonna stop eople from godmoding? since everybody (Should) Know the course of WW2, then what would stop them from having the american pacific fleet put out to sea 3 days before the attack on pearl harbor was supposed to happen in RL?

Thrashia, it should be a cold war until the 1946 when plan Z would have been completed in germany.

I'll keep the sign-up open until all the contries are taken. In the mean time, until we start the rp, I would like it everyone (who wants to) make a factbook, or start one, and post a link of it in here. I will continually update the first post of this thread to keep things in one place.

Nuff said.

Like you said..

I'll stick info about Kluge in Germanys fact book...

So I just looked up "British Military History During World War II" on wikipedia. Looks like they made a huge bunch of mistakes during the early years (especially in France) so I'll try not to fall into te same traps. I'll make a factbook later this week, perhaps over the weekend.

Also, I'm probably going to speed up the development of jets, radar, and AA defenses so I'll try to have an edge during the air war. Perhaps I can prevent the Battle of Britain from ever happening.

If nobody has claimed Canada as of yet, may I take Canada?

So I just looked up "British Military History During World War II" on wikipedia. Looks like they made a huge bunch of mistakes during the early years (especially in France) so I'll try not to fall into te same traps. I'll make a factbook later this week, perhaps over the weekend.

Also, I'm probably going to speed up the development of jets, radar, and AA defenses so I'll try to have an edge during the air war. Perhaps I can prevent the Battle of Britain from ever happening.

This goes for 101 too.

We're starting in the year 1938. That means that the technology that was available in 1938 is there, but nothing more. For you to advance you have to have a cause to advance. Britain was experimenting with Radar in the late 30s, however did not develope jet aircraft until after the war. In other words you can't just say "Oh, well I know that jets are better so I'll make jets!"; it doesn't work like that.

Cause - Reaction. Unless you have a cause to create something (like me develping heavier tanks after facing the T-37, etc) then you cannot create it on a whim.

When the rp starts, 101, its our show. That means you don't have to do what your nation did in WWII. For all I care Britain and Spain could join forces to invade France! Its all up to us! Of course thats not most likely to happen, but you get my meaning (hopefully).

This goes for 101 too.

We're starting in the year 1938. That means that the technology that was available in 1938 is there, but nothing more. For you to advance you have to have a cause to advance. Britain was experimenting with Radar in the late 30s, however did not develope jet aircraft until after the war. In other words you can't just say "Oh, well I know that jets are better so I'll make jets!"; it doesn't work like that.

Cause - Reaction. Unless you have a cause to create something (like me develping heavier tanks after facing the T-37, etc) then you cannot create it on a whim.

When the rp starts, 101, its our show. That means you don't have to do what your nation did in WWII. For all I care Britain and Spain could join forces to invade France! Its all up to us! Of course thats not most likely to happen, but you get my meaning (hopefully).

would after seeing, how much better german tanks are, having a tank that is better than the sherman, be a godmod?

If nobody has claimed Canada as of yet, may I take Canada?
So, do I have Canada?

would after seeing, how much better german tanks are, having a tank that is better than the sherman, be a godmod?

Well, do you have a captured german tank? The Sherman was made to be just as good or better. So yes I think it would be a partial god-mod, but we'll just see how it roles when we get into the rp.

Well, do you have a captured German tank? The Sherman was made to be just as good or better. So yes I think it would be a partial god-mod, but we'll just see how it roles when we get into the rp.

Say after finding a destroyed one and having engineers measure the armor and size of the gun, and making a better tank with better armor, and better weapons. since speed can be taken with out capturing one, you wouldn't need to capture one to make a better tank.

So, do I have Canada?
Holy crap, I am being ignored. Listen, I know that other guy had to be "vouched for" and whatnot. But I haven't heard anything else about it, so do I get Canada or not?

It was called the T-34, not the T-37.

Holy crap, I am being ignored. Listen, I know that other guy had to be "vouched for" and whatnot. But I haven't heard anything else about it, so do I get Canada or not?

check the front page, you have been added already.

Say after finding a destroyed one and having engineers measure the armor and size of the gun, and making a better tank with better armor, and better weapons. since speed can be taken with out capturing one, you wouldn't need to capture one to make a better tank.

In 1938 the biggest gun there was on a tank, was the 50mm. After that and up to the end of the war, most tanks were around 75mm or less. The germans created the Tiger II with an 88mm, like the cannon, onto it due to its good anti-tank work. However no one had the technology, or time to spare, in order to advance further. So, as the weapons where then, so they stay.

It was called the T-34, not the T-37.

Yea, I need more coffee.

In 1938 the biggest gun there was on a tank, was the 50mm. After that and up to the end of the war, most tanks were around 75mm or less. The germans created the Tiger II with an 88mm, like the cannon, onto it due to its good anti-tank work. However no one had the technology, or time to spare, in order to advance further. So, as the weapons where then, so they stay.

Err... the largest tank guns in 1938 were 75mm guns mounted on Soviet, German, French, and British Heavy Tanks. The largest tank gun mounted on a tank during the second World War was 122mm(IS-2 & IS-3 Heavy Tanks, USSR). Finally, the Soviet T-34/85 were armed with 85mm guns and consisted the entirety of the Soviet medium tanks in 1944 & 45.

EDIT: But you probably dont remember that because you lack coffee... :p ,

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11916637#post11916637
^crude but effective factbook for Finland. I will be their commander in chief, Baron Carl Gustav Emil Mannerheim

Err... the largest tank guns in 1938 were 75mm guns mounted on Soviet, German, French, and British Heavy Tanks. The largest tank gun mounted on a tank during the second World War was 122mm(IS-2 & IS-3 Heavy Tanks, USSR). Finally, the Soviet T-34/85 were armed with 85mm guns and consisted the entirety of the Soviet medium tanks in 1944 & 45.

I'm speaking for the majority of tanks. Only the German StuG assault gun had a 75mm cannon, and only in rare cases did the British Matilda or french tanks have such a high caliber gun at this period.

This goes for 101 too.

We're starting in the year 1938. That means that the technology that was available in 1938 is there, but nothing more. For you to advance you have to have a cause to advance. Britain was experimenting with Radar in the late 30s, however did not develope jet aircraft until after the war. In other words you can't just say "Oh, well I know that jets are better so I'll make jets!"; it doesn't work like that.

Cause - Reaction. Unless you have a cause to create something (like me develping heavier tanks after facing the T-37, etc) then you cannot create it on a whim.

When the rp starts, 101, its our show. That means you don't have to do what your nation did in WWII. For all I care Britain and Spain could join forces to invade France! Its all up to us! Of course thats not most likely to happen, but you get my meaning (hopefully).

I'll have you know that the first jet flew in 1939, and although it was German, the UK flew one shortly after. Besides, the British flew their first combat jet, the Meteor, a few months before the Germans did.

ANyway, I'll just go with what you said about jets, but i'll still have radar by 1940.

Holy crap, I am being ignored. Listen, I know that other guy had to be "vouched for" and whatnot. But I haven't heard anything else about it, so do I get Canada or not?

Your not being ignored, I've just been busy. If you paid attention to the first page you would see that I added you already to the list. So don't panick. No one is getting special attention, I'm trying to handle everything at once. So be patient and observant.

Hi, is Saudi Arabia claimable?

may I take Saudi Arabia?

Brazilam got it first Mal, sorry. But there are others...

how about Turkey

how about Turkey

deal. I've added you.

Cool. Sorry Maldorians. I'll have the factbook up in a bit, and it may need a few revisions since some of the information is based on guess.

how about Turkey

great now i'm hungary.

sorry couldn't resist.:p

Cool. Sorry Maldorians. I'll have the factbook up in a bit, and it may need a few revisions since some of the information is based on guess.

Most of what turkey will have is WWI-era british armaments. Also, turkey had a small corp of 80 tanks, British WWI Mark Is.

I got the factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11916696#post11916696) up. Please tell me of any needed changes.

I got the factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11916696#post11916696) up. Please tell me of any needed changes.

Your in the same boat as Turkey is. A bunch of British material and with hardly any tanks. You would however have a lot of desert cavalry.

I can't wait for the in charactor discussions and to command troops in battle! waahooo!

I can't wait for the in charactor discussions and to command troops in battle! waahooo!

I know.

@ All: The Rp will start tommorow, at 6:00 pm US Eastern Time. For those that wish to join while I am offline, just say which nation you want and consider it yours unless someone posted before you. Everyone else is to work on their factbooks, if they wish, and to (I would) research more on the armaments that their respective countries carried in 1938.

Goodnight and good luck.


@ Redtide: At 1938, Russia had the largest tank army in the world. Numbering in the neighborhood of around 12,000 tanks. Those being mostly BT-2s and . Of those 12 thousand, hardly more than 5,000 are battle ready; this due to the fact that Russia really wasn't worried about spare parts, to fix another tank, another one had to be canabalized. About less than 2,000 were in Eastern russia in 1938. The majority were in the west, where Japan was already in its conquest of south-east asia.

Infantry: 5,800,000
Tanks: 5,000 (operational)
Aircraft: 800
Artillery: 19,000 pieces

Here is a link to find the tanks that Russia had pre-war: List of tanks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Soviet_tanks)

If Italy is still held, then I'll take one of Italy's Generals perhaps?

TM me if your up for that.

There's going to be an IC thread right?

If Italy is still held, then I'll take one of Italy's Generals perhaps?

TM me if your up for that.

Italy is yours.

And yes Braz, there will be an IC thread, its what I meant when I said that the rp woudl start 2moro.

Italy is yours.

Wait...you just gave me Italy a couple hours ago and now you're giving it away to somebody else?

Made a handy-dandy map of the world for the appropriate time.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/ChevyRocks/WorldMap1938.png

Working on my factbook now...

Wait...you just gave me Italy a couple hours ago and now you're giving it away to somebody else?

Oh...sorry Voxio. Yea, Voxio, give him a position in your government or military, your choice. Sorry about the mix up.

Made a handy-dandy map of the world for the appropriate time.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j118/ChevyRocks/WorldMap1938.png

Working on my factbook now...

Nice map, but I'll handle it. I have a better one. XD

Here be my factbook: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506266

Thanks Chev, I'll have it up in a sec.

Red Tide: I found more info on your tanks. Look on the 5th page where I posted your information.

Woooohoooo

A good WW2 rp :)

Can't wait! can't wait! :)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11917575#post11917575

My early factbook.

Sign me up as the brave Poles! I believe that we can also RP the resistance movement, should our respective nations get conquered, no? As well as the governments/armies in exile?

If anyone has questions on population, here Is I sight I often use, it's generally accurate but has very ominous predictions about the future.
http://www.library.uu.nl/wesp/populstat/populhome.html

Unfortunately it dosen't list the colonies to the mother country, so that will have to be a seperate matter.

Click on "Of Whole Country" For historical data.

My factbook is here:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506248

i would like to know if i could join as Spain...though i would rather have the Spanish Civil war over if your willing to make that alteration, if not then i shall be the Nationalists.



i use that sight to Waldenburg 2. its very useful ^_^

as for military stats...i am in the middle of another WW2 RP on a different sight and i spent a long time looking up stats for different militaries, though there are often different stats and hard to find stats mine are based on a balance of them or whichever sight seemed more reliable(has more stats that go along with other sights and such)

though my stats are set for Sep. 1 1939

If anyone has questions on population, here Is I sight I often use, it's generally accurate but has very ominous predictions about the future.
http://www.library.uu.nl/wesp/populstat/populhome.html

Unfortunately it dosen't list the colonies to the mother country, so that will have to be a seperate matter.

Click on "Of Whole Country" For historical data.

Wow, Norway's population is quite small in '38, just 2.9 million people.

Shouldnt this RP have started by now?

Thats what i was thinking....

Apparently it hasn't, but Thrashia hasn't even signed on so maybe we should just wait until he does.

I wanna start!

lol...

I am very dissapointed now...I was looking forward to starting today...

There are many people here who wish the same thing too... Me included...

Agreed^^^^

I can not find an offical numbers for the US milliatary before WW2.

Damn...just type somthing random related to the subject in goole..that works..

I tried that.

i searched

American Forces before WW2
American Millitary before WW2
WW2 american milliatary focres

EDIT:Thrashia- I can not find anything on AMerican forces as of 1938. but i have American force numbers for 41. is it ok if i use that?

^^^^

Damn...

I dunno what to tell you, im glad i get to use a single charactor.. :)

Well, command troops on the front using the charactor..

I did find a Site (http://niehorster.orbat.com/013_usa/__usa.htm) that gave numbers for 1941.

Ok everyone, Its going to start. I had a late meetings, so sorry about that (not getting it on in time) but the rp is starting now! I've updated those people who asked for their respective countries and I have uploaded those people who created factbooks onto the list. Enjoy. I will also be putting up some help-links for information and other fun stuff.

Azaranthia, is it too late for people to take nations, cause I am interested.

It is never too late. And here is the IC thread link! Link, IC Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11921714#post11921714)

I will put it up on the front page as well. Everyone post when you can I guess.

I would like to be Australia then.

So this is starting after Germany has taken over Czechoslovakia, right? Just want to make sure.

Edit: It looks as though the date first shown in the RP thread is in March 10, so this is just before they annexed Austria.

So this is starting after Germany has taken over Czechoslovakia, right? Just want to make sure.

Edit: It looks as though the date first shown in the RP thread is in March 10, so I'm guessing this is just before they annexed Austria.

Austria was annexed already. and yes its after germany has taken over Czechoslovakia.

Australia it is. Welcome.

I have been reading up on Australia and I was wondering, are there any sites or the like I can go to for weapons, tanks, etc etc, so I can rp effectively.

I have been reading up on Australia and I was wondering, are there any sites or the like I can go to for weapons, tanks, etc etc, so I can rp effectively.

You'll have mostly British stuff, so just look up british stuff from the time and we'll go from there.

Yeah, true. And thank you. Also, what should I do for numbers. I mean, they seemed to have a lot but they are a minor nation at the time, (no offense to any Australians)

Austria was annexed already. and yes its after germany has taken over Czechoslovakia.

Australia it is. Welcome.


Ah, I see. So wouldn't that make it March of 1939 then? (Austria being annexed in March '38, and Czechoslovakia occupied in March '39)

Yeah, true. And thank you. Also, what should I do for numbers. I mean, they seemed to have a lot but they are a minor nation at the time, (no offense to any Australians)

Australia had around 90,000 infantry and as many as 80 WWI vintage british matildas and mark IVs. They were raising more troops due to the possibility of Japanese aggression.

Ah, I see. So wouldn't that make it March of 1939 then? (Austria being annexed in March '38, and Czechoslovakia occupied in March '39)

I'm too tired to argue. I'm the Game Master I and I say this and this happened then and there. Deal with it.

So, in other words those two events were both done in March '38 for the purposes of this RP? Not trying to argue, just curious (plus it'll help my first few posts).

So, in other words those two events were both done in March '38 for the purposes of this RP? Not trying to argue, just curious (plus it'll help my first few posts).

Yes, or do you want me to spell it out further? I'm really not in the mood for this type of blunt and non-observant questioning.

Alrighty, sorry for the trouble, that's all I needed to know.

Alrighty, sorry for the trouble, that's all I needed to know.

Thanks for understanding and sorry for the snappy-ness. I've just had a bad day.

Ok, so everything is set up. Post when you can and have at it. International relations and such are now up to us. this means that Japan, Germany, and Italy do not have to form an alliance as they historically did. Russia and Saudia Arabia could join each other to take over Asia. Its all a mix of possiblities. Its a chance to explore all those 'what if' questions. So have fun and write well.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/Wehrmacht_20th_April_1939_Birthday_Parade.jpg

I can't find the population of Brazil or Mexico in 1938 THIS IS SO0oo annoying..

Ok, the closet I can get to 1938 of population in Brazil is 41 Million, do you guys mind?

You'll have mostly British stuff, so just look up british stuff from the time and we'll go from there.

can i use the stats as of december 7th, 1941. i can't seem to find the stats for 1938.

Factbook is up. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11922269#post11922269)

i'll wait with the millitary section until I'm told if i can use data from 1941.

Ok, the closet I can get to 1938 of population in Brazil is 41 Million, do you guys mind?

Mark it down to 28 million, that would be about the right level.

I rp'd alittle with Von Kluge, hope it's alright...

I rp'd alittle with Von Kluge, hope it's alright...

I just made a post in response to yours, it will let you deal with things at the meeting. I will write up a organization chart of the Wehrmacht by tonight so we know who commands who, and to clearly define the food chain. You know what I mean. Feel free to create your own characters within your personal staff (which means about 60 men within it).

I just made a post in response to yours, it will let you deal with things at the meeting. I will write up a organization chart of the Wehrmacht by tonight so we know who commands who, and to clearly define the food chain. You know what I mean. Feel free to create your own characters within your personal staff (which means about 60 men within it).


Awesome, im gonna look now...

I have the 6th army? sweeeet

Factbook is up. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11922269#post11922269)

i'll wait with the millitary section until I'm told if i can use data from 1941.

http://www.library.uu.nl/wesp/populstat/Americas/brazilc.htm
39,480,000 in 1938

I have the 6th army? sweeeet

I think you will, I'm writing up the armies and their commanders now. As of right now I have 65 infantry divisions (that includes any that might be fixed into motorized) that come into 13 armies. (meaning 5 divisions per army). Its all going to be in the fact book.

I think you will, I'm writing up the armies and their commanders now. As of right now I have 65 infantry divisions (that includes any that might be fixed into motorized) that come into 13 armies. (meaning 5 divisions per army). Its all going to be in the fact book.

Awesome,

Do you got all the info on the sixth, like the units under Kluge's command..? Regiments..ect..?

I replyed aswell..

Awesome,

Do you got all the info on the sixth, like the units under Kluge's command..? Regiments..ect..?

I replyed aswell..

All in good time Ost, all in good time.

All in good time Ost, all in good time.

Ok, cool

:)

**Excited**

Ic is comming along great :) Muahahaha!

Ic is comming along great :) Muahahaha!

Yup, just need more people to start getting with it. Anyway, that stuff you wanted is up in the fact book. I added a lot of details and will be adding more as I continue to update. Enjoy. XD

Yup, just need more people to start getting with it. Anyway, that stuff you wanted is up in the fact book. I added a lot of details and will be adding more as I continue to update. Enjoy. XD

Yeah...

Im reading now..

Is Hitler comming to this meeting?

Oh, and i replyed..but you probably seen it..

Yes...and I left a small opening for you to enter at the end of my post...ask something like which country you're assigned and what not, create discussion, etc.

for some reason, It seems my Finland factbook is gone, so I need to make a new one :(

for some reason, It seems my Finland factbook is gone, so I need to make a new one :(

wow...dunno how that happened. Did you save it in a word document on your computer? If you did then just remake it. If not, then I can only say that that sucks.

Question for Voxio:

Should I rp as if you have already sent the offer that you tg'ed me about?

Question for Voxio:

Should I rp as if you have already sent the "offer" that you tg'ed me about?

I thought you left Braz? Since you have, anything concerning TGs or otherwise for this rp that concerns you is now null and void. No such luck either way.

Okay now I am kind of angry since I can't find ANY info at all on Finnish military numbers, so if anyone has enough spare time to help, that would be great.

Yes...and I left a small opening for you to enter at the end of my post...ask something like which country you're assigned and what not, create discussion, etc.

I asked acouple questions, i will ask those next... :)

Okay here is the NEW factbook...no military included as of yet but that will change in time

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11927249#post11927249

Gotcha Cand.

Where is the Sixth army now?

I should know where i have to go back to.. lol

Where is the Sixth army now?

I should know where i have to go back to.. lol

Regensburg, Bavaria. It sits on the Danube Riber in south-eastern germany.

Regensburg, Bavaria. It sits on the Danube Riber in south-eastern germany.

Ok,

Got yah, i asked afew questions...i got to ask the others after Hitler tells him how things are going to work..

Finally! I found some military numbers and added it to the factbook so if you want to check it out, you can.

I will^^^

I don't wanna ask Hitler too many questions, it..don't seem right for some reason...

Lol..

It will come, so i'll wait :)

Naval Ships and aircraft now updated in factbook

Factbook is up. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11922269#post11922269)

i'll wait with the millitary section until I'm told if i can use data from 1941.

i don't know the stats for 41 but im guessing much more then in 38...i have the stats for in 39 if you want them

US Armed Forces in August 1939:
27 infantry divisions, 2 cavalry divisions, 4 armoured brigades, 1,4million men.
15 battleships (8 under construction), 5 (2) carriers, 35 (8) cruisers, 217 (33)destroyers and torpedo boats, 93 (21) submarines, 1,3 (0,5) million tonnes alltogether.
Approx.3,000 first line planes.

I hope its okay if I speed up the introduction of the T-34 a tad. I plan on having it going into production in early 1940.

US Armed Forces in August 1939:
27 infantry divisions, 2 cavalry divisions, 4 armoured brigades, 1,4million men.
15 battleships (8 under construction), 5 (2) carriers, 35 (8) cruisers, 217 (33)destroyers and torpedo boats, 93 (21) submarines, 1,3 (0,5) million tonnes alltogether.
Approx.3,000 first line planes.

thank you. that is closer than 1941.

US Armed Forces in August 1939:
27 infantry divisions, 2 cavalry divisions, 4 armoured brigades, 1,4million men.
15 battleships (8 under construction), 5 (2) carriers, 35 (8) cruisers, 217 (33)destroyers and torpedo boats, 93 (21) submarines, 1,3 (0,5) million tonnes alltogether.
Approx.3,000 first line planes.

just for another look at stats

my stats go for...

175,000 Infantry
1,271 Tanks
739 Fighters
842 Bombers(includes Dive and Torpedo Bombers)
258 Recon Planes
5 Carriers
15 Battleships
18 Heavy Cruisers
19 Light Cruisers
65 Destroyers
102 Submarines

after looking it over i got the impression that the US plane count includes transport planes. something i exclude from my stats

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on a different note, i see my name is listed for my claim to Spain, but do i get Spain as a whole or just Nationalist Spain?

I thought you left Braz? Since you have, anything concerning TGs or otherwise for this rp that concerns you is now null and void. No such luck either way.

I haven't left! I'm still rp'ing here, just waiting for something to happen. If you're thinking of the person who left, that was Ezaltia.

Hey can I join as Great Britain if noone already has, or failing that, can i be Eire (aka "The Free State" or "Ireland")?!

Thrashia: Did you replace my old factbook on the front page with my new one? J/W

Hey can I join as Great Britain if noone already has, or failing that, can i be Eire (aka "The Free State" or "Ireland")?!


I think you could probably get the U.K., we had someone playing as them but they dropped out a couple days ago. But I'd wait until Thrashia gets back so he can decide.

I'll be greece or some eastern european country.

Preferably greece.
Will side with germany and pwn the eastern europeans and turkey.
BYZANTIUM HOOOO!!!

Really? Id actually prefer Eire now i think of it, i know what to do with it (im Irish)! Tell me which ud prefer me to be, cuz im easy! What stage are we at and what has happened?

Aye, whats happened?
If noones GB i'll be that.
Still siding with germany tho. better for expansionism.

Hehe im a jew :p

If i cant be GB i'll be greece.

(Offer alliance to germany, ireland and russia.)

Really? Id actually prefer Eire now i think of it, i know what to do with it (im Irish)! Tell me which ud prefer me to be, cuz im easy! What stage are we at and what has happened?

Well, it's before any war has broken out. Germany has just annexed Austria and Czechoslovakia; for the purposes of this RP, both of these events are set as having occured in March of '38.

Really? Id actually prefer Eire now i think of it, i know what to do with it (im Irish)! Tell me which ud prefer me to be, cuz im easy! What stage are we at and what has happened?

Basic movements by countrys, discussion between Hitler and his generals on a planned offencive...

But no1 knows aobut the offencive, it's in the planning stage.. :)

Grand, ill start to RP Eire domestically if thats alrite, and let Ostroeuropa take over Grossbritanien (as it may or may not soon be called ;)) as i couldnt wield sucha large and significant part of the war! Can i go ahead then?

"Aye, whats happened?
If noones GB i'll be that.
Still siding with germany tho. better for expansionism.

Hehe im a jew

If i cant be GB i'll be greece.

(Offer alliance to germany, ireland and russia.)"

Okay, I really don't think it is fair if GB is siding with Germany. That is pushing reality. I suggest being Greece if you wish to be Axis.

Grand, ill start to RP Eire domestically if thats alrite, and let Ostroeuropa take over Grossbritanien (as it may or may not soon be called ;)) as i couldnt wield sucha large and significant part of the war! Can i go ahead then?


I think that's up to our host...Thrashia...

Im not sure how entry goes....i think he has to approve..

Thanks :)
I hereby oust the churchill government and the queen.

in (Whatever day we're on)

A large proportion of the population march on parliament and kill all the mps, leading the mob was Johnathan Wolfe (RP name) he is instituted as Emperor, and allows governors to take over the job of instituting his reign as he wills.

He allows Ireland, Germany and Russia to have foreign ambassadors in this new regime, and offers Ireland governorship of Cardiff County, Germany of Birmingham and Russia Glasgow.

...

the way i see it, if we have a single leader then there wont be the problem we had declaring war so early.
ofcourse i'll be siding with the axis so imperialism can happen :p

Thanks :)
I hereby oust the churchill government and the queen.

in (Whatever day we're on)

A large proportion of the population march on parliament and kill all the mps, leading the mob was Johnathan Wolfe (RP name) he is instituted as Emperor, and allows governors to take over the job of instituting his reign as he wills.

He allows Ireland, Germany and Russia to have foreign ambassadors in this new regime, and offers Ireland governorship of Cardiff County, Germany of Birmingham and Russia Glasgow.

I'm fairly sure that isn't how this RP works.

Umm... no.

can we stop and think for a second? I'm sorry but I seriously don't think the people of Britain, who were highly upset with Neville Chamberlain's appeasment with Germany, would support this.

It is a bit more complicated than that from what im aware

Aww. worth a try eh?

Anywho, for debates sake Churchill also supported hitler up until the invasion of poland.

I'm fairly sure that isn't how this RP works.

I agree...

Thanks :)
I hereby oust the churchill government and the queen.

in (Whatever day we're on)

A large proportion of the population march on parliament and kill all the mps, leading the mob was Johnathan Wolfe (RP name) he is instituted as Emperor, and allows governors to take over the job of instituting his reign as he wills.

He allows Ireland, Germany and Russia to have foreign ambassadors in this new regime, and offers Ireland governorship of Cardiff County, Germany of Birmingham and Russia Glasgow.

Im not quite sure what to say about..err..^^^^That..

Besides if you are going to Rp, it has to be some what...close? to how things happened, i doubt it would have been like that...

If you wish to Rp in this you will have to research some stuff, and work with things that would have been logical..

Well said. Im gna post as Eire, no one else appears to want it, and its my area of expertise, does anyone mind?

Im not quite sure what to say about..err..^^^^That..

Besides if you are going to Rp, it has to be some what...close? to how things happened, i doubt it would have been like that...

If you wish to Rp in this you will have to research...

I know :P
Fine. I'll be churchill.
What with my hate for the muslims (dont bother making me prove this one.)
i shall ignore happenings in europe and attempt to erradicate Iraq and Iran from the get go, and establish British Colonies there.

That ok?

Well said. Im gna post as Eire, no one else appears to want it, and its my area of expertise, does anyone mind?

I don't, but it's not up to me...

I know :P
Fine. I'll be churchill.
What with my hate for the muslims (dont bother making me prove this one.)
i shall ignore happenings in europe and attempt to erradicate Iraq and Iran from the get go, and establish British Colonies there.

That ok?

If you plan to do this, you're gonna have to deal with me as well, I'm Saudi Arabia.

If you plan to do this, you're gonna have to deal with me as well, I'm Saudi Arabia.

Hrumpf.
Damn landlocked country being immune to my navy.

Wont you just ignore me and take out the south of arabia :p

Hrumpf.
Damn landlocked country being immune to my navy.

Wont you just ignore me and take out the south of arabia :p

If you do get the UK you will have your hands full with Germany, possibly..:), and if you got your hands full with Germany, that means at some point you will have your hands full with me, and my sixth army aswell :)

If you do get the UK you will have your hands full with Germany, possibly..:), and if you got your hands full with Germany, that means at some point you will have your hands full with me, and my sixth army aswell :)

Hitler did not want war with Britain.

And as i am playing Britain, i dont want war with Hitler.

No war would occur until europe was entirely german.

Even though Britain did not want war, it was unwilling to let Hitler dominate all of Europe. It is well known that part of the reason behind the appeasement of Hitler by the British Administration of the time was to rearm Britain. From 1935 onwards the British army was completely shaken up and its numbers swelled, the RAF increased from something like 12 to 1200 squadrons, the royal navy added nearly 50 new ships to its fleets. Britain was gearing for war, it was inevitable and Chamberlain was well aware of it.

Well said. Im gna post as Eire, no one else appears to want it, and its my area of expertise, does anyone mind?

Judging by your first post in the thread, I don't think anyone would mind.

I'll take that as a compliment, and say thanks very much!

I'll take that as a compliment, and say thanks very much!


Here, here!

thrashia- spin off threads ok? or does it have to kept in your IC thread?

UK is free! YEAY! I wanted to be the UK in the first place, but it had been taken, so may I give up Canada and be the UK? I am knowledgable in UK weapondry and such.

Hitler did not want war with Britain.

And as i am playing Britain, i dont want war with Hitler.

No war would occur until europe was entirely german.
Wait, Ostroeuropa is the UK now? I am so confused!

I know :P
Fine. I'll be churchill.
What with my hate for the muslims (dont bother making me prove this one.)
i shall ignore happenings in europe and attempt to erradicate Iraq and Iran from the get go, and establish British Colonies there.

That ok?

Gotta warn you...Mussolini has his eyes on Iraq and your other middle eastern lands as well...Iran not so much.

BTW Guys, I just got a job, so this weekend may be a little hectic, but next week I should be able to do fine.

Hey can I join as Great Britain if noone already has, or failing that, can i be Eire (aka "The Free State" or "Ireland")?!

You have the UK Yderia, if you want it. However if you don't post a compliance of that within the next 8 hours, then Ostroeuropa gets UK.

Thrashia: Did you replace my old factbook on the front page with my new one? J/W

Yes I did. You can check it out at the front.

I'll be greece or some eastern european country.

Preferably greece.
Will side with germany and pwn the eastern europeans and turkey.
BYZANTIUM HOOOO!!!

You have greece right now unless Yderia does not post, in which case you then have Britain.

UK is free! YEAY! I wanted to be the UK in the first place, but it had been taken, so may I give up Canada and be the UK? I am knowledgable in UK weapondry and such.

Two people claimed it ahead of you. Sorry Ed. But just remember that Canadian stuff is all British stuff as well.

Never mind that last post. Yderia now has Ireland, Ostroeuropa is Uk. Go with it.

You have the UK Yderia, if you want it. However if you don't post a compliance of that within the next 8 hours, then Ostroeuropa gets UK.



Yes I did. You can check it out at the front.



You have greece right now unless Yderia does not post, in which case you then have Britain.



Two people claimed it ahead of you. Sorry Ed. But just remember that Canadian stuff is all British stuff as well.
Yeah, I know. But I still wanted the UK! *goes and puts in a corner*

Could I possibly be Hungary?

Could I possibly be Hungary?

Yes you can. Welcome to the rp. Just simply work out a bit of info on Hungary in the year 1938 and go from there.

Hey,

What do i reply to Hitler? im not sure what to rp in the situation..

I just had Von Kluge ask somthing simple...

lol, its fine. I'll get to it right away.

If it hasn't been taken I'll go China. I'm quite.... semi... not really... educated about Mao Zedong and his reign over Communist China. So... :)

lol, its fine. I'll get to it right away.

Ok cool...

If it hasn't been taken I'll go China. I'm quite.... semi... not really... educated about Mao Zedong and his reign over Communist China. So... :)

You got it.

JESUS THRASHIA! I had no idea that the Russians and the Germans had a joint tank school in the 1938! They had one before Hitler came to power, I know that, but I thought it was shutdown!

:thinks:

Oh boy! I have a great idea!

Cool! im going to Russia, i don't suppose the sixth army is comming..lol

there isn't really a point in it i don't think..

Oh, dont worry, Ill make it have a point...

PS: Dont worry, I am not going to hold Kluge hostage or anything. I was thinking of using him as Thrashia is intending... a ambassador.

JESUS THRASHIA! I had no idea that the Russians and the Germans had a joint tank school in the 1938! They had one before Hitler came to power, I know that, but I thought it was shutdown!

:thinks:

Oh boy! I have a great idea!


Are you Russia? and what is this idea you speak of? :)

Im so nosy

Ill TG it to you...

And no, I am from America. I just have great respect for the Russian people.

Oh, dont worry, Ill make it have a point...

PS: Dont worry, I am not going to hold Kluge hostage or anything. I was thinking of using him as Thrashia is intending... a ambassador.

Awesome, lol...hostage..lol

This should be fun

Ill TG it to you...

And no, I am from America. I just have great respect for the Russian people.


Ok cool,

Im from North America aswell, Canada...

red tide i sent a reply...

replied...

Mee too

I can't wait to go to the posting, i like this rp so far...

Good post Yderia II, interesting...

Thrashia, do you have Msn?

Well thanks Osteria, i do try my best! Who is Italy in this btw, because I will no doubt be liasing soon!

Well thanks Osteria, i do try my best! Who is Italy in this btw, because I will no doubt be liasing soon!

I think it's Voxio.....

Thrashia, TG's

Thrashia, do you have Msn?

lakes_7@hotmail.com

Yderia: Very good posts, I love it. No doubt Ribbentrop will be dropping by sooner rather than later at this uprise of another brother-fascist state.

Ohh! How fascinated I be by all this! Thanks for all the nice comments lol! I jst really like Irish history, specially cuz we had a fully functioning and unbelievably popular fascist party (as u can now see) during this era. Is Voxio active much!?

Ohh! How fascinated I be by all this! Thanks for all the nice comments lol! I jst really like Irish history, specially cuz we had a fully functioning and unbelievably popular fascist party (as u can now see) during this era. Is Toxio active much!?

Voxio is, but he's just not online as present.

Awk darnit! Yeah sure, im just sitting back in Dublin waiting for Von Rippentrop to come a-calling any time he's ready

lakes_7@hotmail.com

Yderia: Very good posts, I love it. No doubt Ribbentrop will be dropping by sooner rather than later at this uprise of another brother-fascist state.


Ok, you have been added...

I posted aswell, was the meeting done?

Ok, you have been added...

I posted aswell, was the meeting done?

yea. You can post something about getting your things ready and going to the air field.

Ok

Red Tide2, TGs.

There, last post edited getting Von Kluge to the airport....

....ok

can we start our own threads? it will keep confusion down in the main thread.Like one for erupope,the pacific, and africa.

Cool, we are well on our way now...

Rp is developing although more countrys need to post..

What will Von Kluge be doing at the tank school?

What will Von Kluge be doing at the tank school?

Major Liester will breif you on your flight.

@ 101: good idea. I will create those threads now. I will post them under the "Important Threads" section of the main page. The IC thread that is already up, we will use for Europe.

The new threads are created. Have at it. You do not need to be in contact, or indirect contact, with Germany in order to rp (ie, I'm not going to hold your hand). I take I Yderia for an example. He's begun rping and hasn't needed any assistance otherwise.

Ok cool,

I say good idea to the threads too, :)

I like this rp..

Very good idea...and it's only just beginning..

Right now im watching a show on the history channel about the 1st special service corps from WW2, the mixed Canadian and American...

The Black devils....

those guys were fuckin nuts...never lost a battle and had the German's scared shitless..

Well thanks Osteria, i do try my best! Who is Italy in this btw, because I will no doubt be liasing soon!

I am Italy, though I have delegated control of the Italian Navy and the colonies of Libya and Italian East Africa to Licentium.

Voxio, lets start that meeting between Mussolini and Hitler (and Saburo).

The new threads are created. Have at it. You do not need to be in contact, or indirect contact, with Germany in order to rp (ie, I'm not going to hold your hand). I take I Yderia for an example. He's begun rping and hasn't needed any assistance otherwise.

If peral harbor is attacked what thread should it be in? it could be in the north*south America thread because itsd part of the US. but its in the pacific so it could be in the other one.

I need uhh, Hitler's SS friend to meet Von Kluge at the airport so he can leave for russia..

:)

If peral harbor is attacked what thread should it be in? it could be in the north*south America thread because itsd part of the US. but its in the pacific so it could be in the other one.

South-East Asia thread would be where you have it. As yet we have no idea if Japan is going to expand very far out into the Pacific. Should Waldenburg wish to do so, then he just has to tell me and I will create a pacific thread. Until then there is no need for one. Any rp'ing you need for pacific fleets or otherwise can be done in the North America section.

South-East Asia thread would be where you have it. As yet we have no idea if Japan is going to expand very far out into the Pacific. Should Waldenburg wish to do so, then he just has to tell me and I will create a pacific thread. Until then there is no need for one. Any rp'ing you need for pacific fleets or otherwise can be done in the North America section.

thanks for clearing that up.

Now. just to mkae a post.

Got a question. Can we design our own equipment (planes, tanks, etc.), so long as it's realistic the given time and country?

Umm, i have noo idea....

good question though...

AS canada, i'm having canadian snipers posted at the airport that hitler is soon to arrive at... can i do that ?:sniper:

How exactly are the battles fought it this thread? Rped out by the players or moderated by someone?

Red Tide2 do you have MSN? As China I'll be leeching quite alot of Russia and so far you are already paying us... US$300,000 a month (US$43-50million a year today) plus military and technology.