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Official Clandonian Response

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Socialism is lapping on the waters of the seas of communism, therefore we will treat all socialist nations with extreme caution because of their strong ties to full blown Marxist principles. The threat of socialist based economies is another fear, the prospect of a mixed economy frightens many in Clandonia. Free market policies will always remain in our nation and we hope all ACTO nations apply the laisez faire economic system, or they will be doomed under the 'Red Threat'.

OFFICIAL IMPERIAL PROCLIMATION
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TO: Membership of the Anti Communist Treaty Organization
FROM: Mr. Larry Williams, Minister of Foreign Relations

I was asking the general membership of the ACTO, not a warmongering nation such as yourself. Personally we don't give a damn what the Clandonian Prime government thinks of us as.

(SIC)
The atmosphere in the room was tense. All those gathered for this meeting knew some action had to be taken, for the benefit of the nation. However, few were really sure what to do about the situation.

King Zachary spoke first. "As you are all aware by now, Clandonia Prime has committed serious actions against our allies in the World Soviet Party. Furthermore, their government's aggressive foreign policy threatens the safety and stability of the ACTO; our membership therein may be untenable so long as they continue their anti-red warmongering."

Minister of State Erik Kessler spoke up. "Yet at the same time, as we have expressed our concerns on this matter, the Clandonians would attempt to bully us into remaining an ACTO member under threat of slandering our great nation's character to the global community. They would even have the audacity to accuse us of communism!" This remark set the whole room into an uproar.

"That's absurd!" Treasury Minister Peter Hakamoto said. "If they were to do even the most superficial of research, they would know that few nations could match our devotion to the laissez-faire capitalist system. We sould not dare tolerate such obvious lies!"

"But what should we do about it?" asked Defense Minister John Retcliffe. "A nation of Clandonia's size and might is beyond our power to assault, and warring with them over such a trivial matter as name-calling would surely raise some alarm from other nations. I propose a softer approach."

The king nodded in agreement. "It is certain that we cannot hope to win on our own against the Clandonians as they stand now. We must signal our displeasure through diplomatic channels and hope for the best." The remainder of the royal ministers agreed.

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The Constitutional Monarchy of Lower Columbia
Official Government Declaration

In light of certain renegade actions committed by a few aggressive members of the Anti-Communist Treaty Organization against outside nations, including our nation's allies in the GASN, it is this government's opinion that a continuation of our membership in this alliance would pose a grave threat to Lower Columbia's condition and world reputation, so long as representatives from Clandonia continue their presumption of power. Being thus resolved, His Majesty King Zachary, in conjunction with the Parliament, hereby condemns said actions and calls for some form of punishment to be meted out to the Clandonians by the chief authorities of this alliance. In the interim, the Lower Columbian Ministry of Commerce has full authority to impose higher-than-normal tariffs upon all incoming Clandonian goods.

Know, however, that while this government supports our more left-wing allies in their choice of economic system, our nation is fully committed to capitalistic principles and the maintenance of a laissez-faire economy within our borders, as some brief research (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Lower_Columbia) will reveal. We wish all fellow ACTO members good luck in their struggle against the Red menace that threatens them. Excelsior!

Count me in and then view this insightful documentary.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/mariocommunist

That's all the proof I needed.

Constitutional Monarchy of Latidia
Official Statement, HM's Ministry for Foreign Affairs
To the Imperial Republic of Mauvasia

Your Majesty,
Your last Official Communiqué regarding the rise of the Anti-Communist League was received not without concern by this government. The Constitutional Monarchy of Latidia is worried with the approach your well-established democracy practices with communist states, some of them openly called by you "legitimate communist states".

The legitimacy of a government is only validated if it is the result of the free will of it's people and if it respects the rights inherent to human nature. Regarding the first idea, the expression of such will could be pure and simple (through elections) or tacit - such as not revolting for example (indeed, a rather questionable idea which could be treated in another occasion). Surely, we both agree the best way is the first one mentioned, as well as some "democratic" communist states which have become government by free elections, holding their ideological mandate of a 'violent class struggle'.

It is, however, in the second idea of legitimacy were communism fails abruptly. Their restraint of political and economical liberties is only the result of a much worse cause: misunderstanding of human nature. Their sheer materialism leads them to defend that moral values and human rights are subjective, since they depend of the agent which holds power within a certain moment. Private property, for instance, is good while it is useful for their goals, when it is not, it is time to restrict a little. The same happens with freedom of expression, of education, of reunion - even the fundamental right of worship your God.

With this, we are not applying to the aforementioned alliance, as we would like to hear more about it's intentions and means. We share the same doubt whether it will become another militaristic front, which would not benefit mankind at all. Nevertheless, this government also feels that communism must be stopped for the reasons already mentioned, and that your position legitimates views as dangerous as extreme jingoism.

Respectfully yours,
Maximillian Quillimus
Minister for Foreign Affairs

Official Responce, His Majesty's Department of State for Foreign Affairs
To: Maximillian Quillimus, Minister for Foreign Affairs, the Constitutional Monarchy of Latidia
Encryption: None

In responce to the Latidian communiqué of 6th, to which his Majesty has unfortunately not had the occasion to respond at a prior time due to other pressing concerns, the Commonwealth Government has expressed some concern over the Latidian view that a collectivist ideology cannot be considered legitimate. Mauvasia herself adheres to a form of moderate socialism; vital industries are nationalised, and other industries -- while under private control -- must adhere to strict regulations; in addition, as income is granted citizens based on current ability and economic situation, effectively being redistributed by the government, Mauvasia does follow a socialist ideology.

His Majesty, however, failed to understand how this system makes Mauvasia less free than a 'capitalist' nation. Citizens of the Commonwealth are permitted to do whatever they like, where that does not infringe upon the rights of others; one definition of this infringement is making a profit from the work of others, specifically if those others are not compensated proportionally to the work they have done.

As, according to the Latidian definition, the Commonwealth government is apparently not 'illegitimate', and as Mauvasia has no intention of spreading its ideology to other nations that have chosen a different one of their own accord, we realise that we ourselves have nothing to fear from the Anti-Communist Treaty Organisation; however, we are still concerned as to whether the ACTO will pursue an aggressive foreign policy against sovereign communist nations. If whatever authority is in command of the ACTO, or if the members thereof do reach a consensus, please let us know.

Thank you.

[signed]Andrew Marks
Chairman, Department of State

The R.S.U. condemns this act of ignorance and national apartheid. Assuming that any nation which tries to achieve Social Equality is a Bolshevik Stalinist is quite frankly absurd. Despite past actions of false, self proclaimed "Communists" there are some nations which follow the guidelines set out by Marx, and do not sway to corruption or Capitalist values of greed. Nations which try to create a utopia for their citizens should be applauded and not condemned.

~Nikolas Zabolotsky, High Commisar of the R.S.U.


OFFICIAL DIPLOMATIC COMMUNIQUE

To Nikolas Zabolotsky, High Commisar of the R.S.U.

Your statements reveal the depths to which you have sunk as an idolator and a prince among demons. The utter hypocrisy of your goal is ridiculous and blasphemous. There can be no utopia, as you define it, ever. How, for example, are you creating this utopia? Will you let your citizens do as they want? What if they want to fight and kill? What if one opposes war and another supports it? Human nature precludes the establishment of any utopia, and even if you could build one, we would smash it out of simple irritation.

Social equality is similarly absurd. It is the way of nature for some beings to be stronger or weaker than others, and to attempt to flatten, as it were, the human race, is abhorrent and offends the gods. We observe that as you tout the 'merits' of social equality, you sign the title of High Commisar to your message. Is not this High Commisar better paid for his services than a common peasant? If he was not, would he not be unhappy, destroying your fool's utopia?

Utopia is the dream of the infidel. Only in glorious death is Paradise obtained.

Darian Aurelius, Minister of Foreign Affairs

[Open Message]

From: The Avisronite Department of State

The Federation of Avisron, while claiming to be Socialist for decades, was never truly socialist. We supported the state ownership of select critical industries at times, but we were never as Marxist as some nations. Never, in our entire history, did we fit in with crowds such as the Union of Communist Nations.

Over the last few years we experienced a mini-depression. Our economy never "collapsed," so to say, it was simply reorganised. The government, which has always been libertarian, downsized and dropped its control of every market. From this point on we could no longer call ourselves Socialist.

Our economy IS regulated to prevent vast corporate corruption from destroying the POLITICAL process, but not to the point that it effects day-to-day operations.

Recently we pulled out of the Union of Communist Nations, no longer wishing to belong to such an organization of collectivism.

We wish to apologise to every member of ACTO that we have challenged and/or insulted in our previous Socialist form. Further, we actually wish to become PART of the Anti Communist Treaty Organization, if this is possible.

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Our great nation is concerned that, with our highly left-wing views, the Anti-Commuist Treaty Organisation will oppose us.
However, we would like to assure the international community that we are a democratic country, and, as such, should not be classed as Communists (note the fact that the colours are reversed in the flag, with a view to indicate this).

Zukariaa;12091662']OOC-I can't speak for the ACTO, and don't feel like writing up an IC answer, but Zukariaans generally see Socialists and Communists as the same thing in different levels of stupidity.
[OOC: Ditto. Public opinion varies from case to case. If you have, say, a minimum wage and a moderate welfare programme, but otherwise are laissez-faire then Praetonians wont go crazy and start burning your flag in the streets. It's perfectly possible that you could become a close ally of Praetonia (eg. Sarzonia) - Praetonians will simply view you as a little foolish for pursuing that social democrat economic model. On the other hand, if you go fully marxist and abolish private property, have the state seize the means of production and communication and outlaw emigration then yes they probably will burn your flag in the streets (not too much though: removing scorch marks from tarmac is expensive and the streets are privately owned, afterall).]

The Armed Republic would like to join the Anti Communist Treaty Organization. We feel that we meet the criteria outlined in the treaty.

A.) Our economy is regulated to avoid abuses, and standards are set for pollution, working conditions, etc. Furthermore, the government has intervened cheifly in areas of market failure and monopoly to ensure that as many markets as possible are purely competitive rather than monopolistic or ologopolistic. Though private businesses areat occu free to challange the government, they rarely choose to do so, and Arsonistic edict may overturn any and all rulings. This has only occured in cases where siding in the business's favor would result in gross injustices, and is a rare occurance indeed.

B.) While we will happily lend a hand against gross violations of human rights that occur, we feel that embargoing all communist nations is counterproductive: command economics leaves gaps for many products, including consumer goods. Tractors don't wash clothes afterall. Thus we feel that restritive import tarrifs on products our native corporations can produce are a more viable option. Afterall, who doesn't like communist cigars?

C.) We fully agree with the conditions set forth in the third term.


If accecpted into the organization, may our forces drive into a redless future marked by peace and prosperity.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12095539#post12095539 <<< you lot will be interested in this.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12095539#post12095539 <<< you lot will be interested in this.

OOC: You rotter! :p

Official Imperial Communique

The Imperium Doomanum, a bastion of glorious and holy capitalism, has long opposed the pestilence on mankind known as Marxism. This vile Satanic idealogy has long plagued the world, and we have shed much blood to keep our lands pure. My father, bless his name, spent the better part of his glorious reign doing away with communist heathens that once roamed free throughout the Imperium; I am now proud to proclaim that we have been free of these vile heretics for many, many decades.

As such, I feel it to be the God-given duty of the Imperium Doomanum to aid in the defense of the rest of Creation from this blasphemous devilry. The Imperium Doomanum formally requests admittance into the Anti-Communist Treaty Organization.

-Emperor Maximus III

Everybody who has applied is welcome to join, especialyl Avisron :D

The United Soviet Party of Trasa has issued this statement to the ACTO.

"You may Band together, you may insult our ways and beliefs, you may expell Communists living within your nations.

But know this, any attempt to attack a Communist Nation without just cause or provocation from the other nation shall involve us taking offensive action towards you, we do not wish for there to be war, but we will defend our interests and the welfare of the citizens living within the Nation.

I hope that we understand eachother...We will be watching you.

Signed- Chairman Uriel Poltzkai, USPT (United Soviet Party of Trasa)

Everybody who has applied is welcome to join, especialyl Avisron :D

[OOC: I'm never going to hear the end of it, am I? :p ]

We would like to join. But not as a full member- we do not wish to topple communist regimes that have not commited an act of intimidation.

Official Foreign Ministry Statement

For too long have Marxist nations been given the right to continue to pursue their dreams of worldwide revolution and subversion against the free, Capitalist World. It is good to finally see others taking up a principled stand against the Communists, the scum whose presence causes destruction to the Capitalist world, whose mere existence threatens the well being and freedom of all men.

The Parthian government, therefore, asks for admission of the Shahdom of Parthia into the Anti Communist Treaty Organization, with our full support being devoted to the organization.

-Foreign Minister Lord Sassan Savadkouhi

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From the Bureau of Foreign Affairs
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The government of Krasnamoya wishes to relay its disgust and outrage at the sight of such a pact coming together; one created by simple-minded bigots who insist that communism and socialism, two forms of economics, are inferior to capitalism and that the government regulating them must be one of a totalitarian state. Despite our fight and victory for independence from the Soviet Union, we continue to practice socialism, not the violent practices so often associated with the authorities behind it. We pray for your sake and that of nations around the world, both capitalist and communist, free and opressed, that this mockery of justice is abolished.

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Bacили Фeдepoвич
Secretary of Foreign Affairs

[Open Message]

From: The Avisronite Department of State

Communist nations need to spread their ways in order to survive. It's a simple fact that a vast majority of nations of capitalist, and communist nations cannot sustain in their current numbers. Further, while it is possible to have a communist system which does not oppress, it is highly rare for this to ever happen.

Communism also nearly completely eliminates the means by which a slight minority can compete against a slight minority. The people who hold 51% of the government hold 100% of the power.

OOC: bump

OOC: Whats with all these people hating Commies and Socies lately?

OOC: Whats with all these people hating Commies and Socies lately?

It's not anything new.

Zukariaa;12115525']It's not anything new.

I know, but its like there's been an influx of new haters lately, adding to the already established ones.

May I join?

May I join?

I think you are going on an "alliance joining spree" just because EVIL declared war on you...

Zukariaa;12115525']It's not anything new.

I fought on the Socie's and Commie's side back in the days of High Father and the Reformist Government respectively. Now because of the Reformist's communist stance, the public backlashed and went very capitalistic.

Personally this is good for business. I sell to both sides, and I love antagonizing conflicts. Great for business.

I think you are going on an "alliance joining spree" just because EVIL declared war on you...

OOC: Yes I noticed that...

Members of ACTO are welcome to help themselves to some free ships. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12131060)

Members of ACTO, news on the telething shows that Clandonia is having some sort of democratic election!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=512450

David Brokonavich, Clandonian Liberal Party

...

He controversially supported the privatisation of the military
:eek:

/me puts Brokonavich in the Ayn Rand box.

bump

bump

Secretariat for External Affairs
PDSRA
Official statement

*yawn*



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République Démocratique, Sociale et Populaire de l'Ariddia

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Empire of Olmedreca would like to join Anti Communist Treaty Organisation.

Signed
First Citizen Vesse Põhjakotkas

Somethingey would like to join the Anti Communist Treaty Organization or ACTO.

"Regretfully, Zaire must withdraw from this organization."


Jean Nguza Karl-i-Bond
Foreign Minister of the Republic of Zaire
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The Grand Republic of Adamta would like to join Anti Communist Treaty Organisation. We know the red menace must be stopped where it stands, and destroyed. We already support the nation of Zanski on their attempts to stop communists. They will ultimately be destroyed.

Signed,
President James Morgan

bumb
ooc: then will my joining request accepted/rejected?

OOC: I get the impression you're in just so long as you want to fight Communism. It's not a proper 'alliance', just a group of people with a common goal. The name is misleading, because we haven't signed a treaty.

OOC: Speaking of which, unofficial call to arms for those who want to fight!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12399588#post12399588

ooc: Questers told me that indeed no confirmation is needed then joining. You can consider yourself as member of ACTO practically immediately after requesting membership.

FROM: NMCC
TO: ACTO

The Corporate Council has directed me to inform you that New Manth supports the noble goals of this Alliance and wishes to request official membership.

Respectfully,
Commander Halys Reisschart
New Manthian Central Command

Official Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

To: Membership of the ACTO
From: Vetakan Foreign Affairs

Subject: TWSP/Clandonian Crisis

The Free Dominion of Vetaka while a like minded capitalist nation does not agree with the ideals of the ACTO however I write to you members of the Anti Commuist Treaty Organization to do what is write by your Nations support finding a Peaceful and Diplomatic Solution to the current Clandonian and TWSP Crisis.

I am sure all nations will agree war should always be a last resort only when the diplomatic option has been exercised as such the Free Dominion of Vetaka currently offers Peace Talks on neutral land this being the Vetakan Capital City of Theeb.

I appeal to all members of the ACTO one capitalist to another to do all that is then their power to encourage and support a diplomatic and peaceful solution to current unstable and dangerous crisis.

Yours with Respect Free Dominion of Vetaka President Scarlet Rogers

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Official Imperial Communiqué

The Imperial Monarchy of Alacea

To: Questers, ACTO
From: Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Alacea, also despising the red plague, wishes to join the ranks of ACTO.

Salutations,
Alexander Salem
Minister of Foreign Affairs

OOC: I believe Questers should update the member list.

Letter from Zhyolatskan Communal congress, written in Cyrillic, in russian:

We are heartily distressed by this so called "anti-communist league". We are worried that you may become a war-mongering and oppressive force. We would urge you, listen to the will of the your people, educate them that you might enjoy a true-er sense of democracy, realize that capitalism has many flaws as well, and is in fact, in many ways, opposing to the idea of a free market.

First we are not trying to convert any nations, we merely ask that you give your populace an educated say in their government, Educate them on what Communism, Autonomism, socialism, Capitalism, Fascism, and the like are, show them the good and the bad of all sides, to let them have a choice. surely you cannot have it within you to deny people the rights to a vote? a say in democracy?

secondly, unless anti-corporatist laws are put into place, most capitalist countries will not experience a free market, there will be too many barriers int he way of smaller companies entering into the free as they will be unable to compete with large corporations, allowing corporations to generate an abnormal profit. Profit is, as we are sure you capitalists understand, only the result of unpaid labor becoming redistributed wealth, thus creating no truly "new" wealth. Futher, the exploitation of the labor power of the workers denies them their basic right to be paid in capital or capital goods for their labor. what many communist societies seek to do is restore this right, to pay workers for their product, rather than their labor power, so that they are justly given reward for their work.

Many people in capitalist countries are in face oppressed. They are made to pay money for Food, Shelter, life itself. The misfortunate are cast aside and left to die while those lucky enough to be born into proper status can spend an entire life not knowing hardship. Many countries that are what you call "Communist devils" seek to put an end to these horrid crime, to return the power to the people.

We urge you, do not beat your people to keep the "red threat" out, let your people express themselves in politics, If your reply to this is "but the people do not know what's best for them" or "the people will lead us into decay, we must make them follow" then compare yourselves to hitler, who also thought in a "father knows best" state. If a communist insurrection happens, it is most likely because the people desire such or are discontent. Do not squelch their desires, Do not force them to live in discontent.

Many of the Neo-communist alliances are more than willing to invade totalitarian so-called "communist" states, so please do not assume that all-left aligned states are Dictatorships, for they then become hard-right or centrist states. Our own nation, for example, is far left, and we value our freedom above all else.

So please, I urge you to reconsider the terms of this alliance, do not take a harsh stance against any leftist countries, do not act on presumptions, and most importantly, do not follow the lessons of Mussolini, listen to your people, and do not take action to squelch anything that opposes a ruling regime if the people desire change!

Official Response to the Zhyolatskan Communal Congress, sent in multiple copies in English, Hebrew, Latin, Russian, Rejistani, Quenya, Japanese, Taraskath, Bigtopian, Classical Arabic

Dear communist friends!

Well, actually, not. Not in a hundred years will we consider a foul communist to be our friend. Communist governments exist merely so that the Allanean military could practice bayonet drills on their officials. But I digress.

Let me quote from your letter:

We urge you, do not beat your people to keep the "red threat" out, let your people express themselves in politics

Do you even know anything about the politics of our nation? Allanea has complete and unlimited freedom of speech, and in fact, there is even a Socialist senator (one out of about 300, but that's just because they don't get elected). In Allanea, there is a Communist party, and it even maintains about 0.002% of the vote in Congress (which is a direct online democracy).

But since when do filthy communists know anything about the politics of real, free countries?

Equally, your economic understanding of 'profit' is completely wrong and out of focus with Allanean understanding of economics. We recommend that you apply for a course with the University of Concord, Liberty-City, say, Economic 101. It will be enough to say that the market is not in fact inherently oligopolic – small, and not big businesses dominate a free and unrestrained market.

Educate them on what Communism, Autonomism, socialism, Capitalism, Fascism, and the like are, show them the good and the bad of all sides,

You know that Allanea does not have a public education system, yes?

Well now you do.

The answer to your request is a resounding NO, filthy communists. Pester us more and it's random invasion time.

Random clerk in the Department of State

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[OOC: Brillant.]

Since our vile Anti-communist tyrant was disposed of by communist nations, we now have a more liberal view on communism. We are not communist, however. We are actively fighting a low level war against Communist guerillas on the streets of Xanka, our capital and on the islands of ValenasJaski and Ambai which were ceded to us by Maraque.

Should anyone get invaded, we will step in (As long as its not Pudu, Parthia or Dephire, as they are occupying Zansk Chitzeland which we lawfully annexed) and use whatever force we can against the agressors whether we win or not.

I'm about to ask for this thread to be closed, I'm going to start up a new anti commie alliance later today (a real one, hopefully)

1. Please sign me up for that when it starts.

2. Please be a cool Matt and announce it at the conference. :)

Yes, announce it at the conference. Then again, you would be better off just joining the NPE, since we are currently the largest Anti-Communist bloc, and actually have the balls to do something about them and not just blab.

Yes, announce it at the conference. Then again, you would be better off just joining the NPE, since we are currently the largest Anti-Communist bloc, and actually have the balls to do something about them and not just blab.

Speaking of which, you need to reply in the terrorist thread.

Ok, I don't have a link :( Tg me it, please.

Its on the 2nd page of threads... I just bumped it bout 30 minutes ago.

Speaking of which, you need to reply in the terrorist thread.

Ok, I don't have a link :( Tg me it, please.

While I am strongly opposed to communism, I think that completely free market capitalism is almost as bad! Both of them are dangerous extremes, which bring suffering to the people and are ultimately very inefficient. At first I considered joining this organization, but when I realized that this is a capitalist attempt to gain control of my glorious nation's strong economy, I decided not to join!

And, as a man of Vision With A Better Future, I urge all of you to abandon this treacherious organization! Death to communism, yes, but Death to Libertarianism and Capitalism as well!

Strong State, Strong Economy and Strong Military are the pillars of Strong People! These Three can never be separated!

Yes, announce it at the conference. Then again, you would be better off just joining the NPE, since we are currently the largest Anti-Communist bloc, and actually have the balls to do something about them and not just blab.

Yeah, plus its got the same clause as Haven, you know, no one can invade crap.

Yeah, plus its got the same clause as Haven, you know, no one can invade crap.

Er... What? What Clause?

Er... What? What Clause?


From Region page
The New Prussian Empire is a group of Democratic, Capitalist nations bound under a treaty of Mutual Defense and Economic cooperation.

Errr... I thought I saw one in there. Whats an alliance without a mutual defense clause?

Oh yes, we do have a Mutual Defense Clause. Duh.

Anti communism is a joke.
Communism promotes its workers to run the goverment as a collective, for the good of humanity.
Unlike capitalism where you only work for the profit of one or a few.
It is obvious that this is only capitalist propoganda to destroy any competition.
I would also like to point out that the US currently accepts trade with China a communist country! without China we would be in the toilet. :upyours:

OOC: Read the stickies before posting in II, thanks.

Anti communism is a joke.
Communism promotes its workers to run the goverment as a collective, for the good of humanity.
Unlike capitalism where you only work for the profit of one or a few.
It is obvious that this is only capitalist propoganda to destroy any competition.
I would also like to point out that the US currently accepts trade with China a communist country! without China we would be in the toilet. :upyours:

Just like I said... Communists are as foolish as are the capitalists... Both seem to think that their way is the only possible. However, when we combine the state and the corporations, we have a perfectly functioning system that is strong both from the outside and the inside!

Death to communism and capitalism!

Just like I said... Communists are as foolish as are the capitalists... Both seem to think that their way is the only possible. However, when we combine the state and the corporations, we have a perfectly functioning system that is strong both from the outside and the inside!

Death to communism and capitalism!

OOC: Dude, this isn't a discussion thread about capitalism vs. communism. Try that in NS General, the people over there will be glad to produce 65 pages of back-and-forth crap in the amount of time it takes you to post, have a snack, and check on it again. Plus, you seem to be posting an OOC opinion (without marking it as OOC) in an IC thread that's not even for that purpose.

I'm about to ask for this thread to be closed, I'm going to start up a new anti commie alliance later today (a real one, hopefully)

Is that already created? If it is could anyone throw a link here?

The Order of America Will NOT stand by Idly while this disease spreads among our Fellow Nations. The Order of America Loves democracy. To truly love one you must hate the Other. Thus the Order of America must hate Communism. Let Democracy Spread, and Let this Disease die out before it drags humanity into the Depths. The Order of America wishes to Join your Alliance and wishes to Openly oppose the Disease alongside nations who share our Views.

OOC: OOA, this alliance is debunked. I am working on founding a new one.

OOC: Oh sorry....I guess I will join that one then.....but you need to post some sorta official statement to keep a bunch of other people from joining.......

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Official Announcement of the United States Government

Given our recent change of government, it is no longer possible for us to remain members in an alliance with nations like Doomingsland and Olmedreca as its member.

As such we must leave ACTO.

Good luck, and may Maximus die in a fire.

Official Message
TO: Whomever it may concern
FROM: Emperor Conrad II
RE: Leaving

Must Allanea always has to get the last word? Its leaders resort to insulting the Doomani Caesar as they're leaving, so as to give them no chance to defend themselves. The Allaneans are so stupid when it comes to failure, such as the recent failure to save Kahanistan, that they resort to no longer opposing communists. It is a sickening thought. The Allaneans are despicable. They do not deserve to be in such a well intentioned alliance to begin with.

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Signed,
Emperor Conrad II, Without The Insults

Official Allanean Government Announcement

For the ease of rebuilding of the Kahanistani military, we will donate our entire stockpile of 11,000 MOAR intercontinental ballistic missiles to Kahanistan. Furthermore, we are also ready and willing to supply Kahanistan with any nuclear warfare material it may require.


Official Message
TO:Emperor Conrad II
FROM: Minor Allanean Clerk in the Department for Mindless Insulting of Foreigners.
RE: Leaving

So let’s see. We evacuated 70% of the Kahanistani population, leaving only those who refused outright to be evacuated. The Zukariaans in the meanwhile refused to aid the Kahanistani in their valiant struggle. Not a single Kahanistani was rescued by Zukariaans.

As to Communism, being a member of ACTO fighting communism does not equal. Doomani never fight communism, they only beat on Kahanistani who are worse soldiers. We in Allanea however do fight Communism and Corporate Statism – having killed over 200 million Kravenites recently, helped depose multiple comnunist governments, etc. But the Zukariaans? What have the Zukariaans done against communism, National-Socialism, or corporate statism? I bet his Wimpihood Conrad II can’t even name two communist nations outside TWSP Zukariaa has opposed.

We have no doubt ACTO is well-intentioned. It's the execution that fails.

Notice to the nation of Allanea

We must inform the Allaneans of their retarded delivery of eleven thousand multiple ordnance attack rockets to the Kahanistani government that all eleven thousand MOARs have been disabled via the company. Each MOAR is outfitted with a killswitch to prevent usage of MOARs against Cohenia: all eleven thousand have been deactivated.

Thank you,

Hans Roflsburger

Official Message
TO: Whomever it may concern
FROM: Emperor Conrad II
RE: Leaving

You speak as if we ever cared to help the Kahanistani in the first place. We were on our way to invading them, certainly not defending them. Unlike the Allaneans, we see nothing valiant in having defended the Kahanistani.

As for your little 'bet'; what is this, a child's game? We're to bet about how many people we have killed, or how many nations we have helped to destroy? You seem to think yourself better than the Doomani, and yet you boast about killing off 200 million Kravenites? Shall we boast of our slaughter of 250 million Danteri socialists so many years ago? Shall we boast about the Seseerians, whom we invaded when their socialist government claimed that it could destroy us? The Dremoran corporate state, whom we liberated from Kraven and freed?

Take your nonsense elsewhere.

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Signed,
Emperor Conrad II

* Zukariaa has signed off

Notice to the nation of Allanea

We must inform the Allaneans of their retarded delivery of eleven thousand multiple ordnance attack rockets to the Kahanistani government that all eleven thousand MOARs have been disabled via the company. Each MOAR is outfitted with a killswitch to prevent usage of MOARs against Cohenia: all eleven thousand have been deactivated.

Thank you,

Hans Roflsburger



Lulz!

Reply othe Zukariaans

We unfortunately are forced to let you have the last word, as the thought anybody would willingly support the Doomani has made our collective head explode.

Oh so you can outlaw the communist party in your countrys but yet, if i outlaw capatalist type partys, i get shit.

Oh so you can outlaw the communist party in your countrys but yet, if i outlaw capatalist type partys, i get shit.
Welcome to NS.

Oh so you can outlaw the communist party in your countrys but yet, if i outlaw capatalist type partys, i get shit.

OOC: Maybe you wouldn't take so much shit if you did it with the same skill as these guys... : /

That's why you create a single-party system with a military police force so that parties you do not want don't "exist".

The Following Trade Union Nations shall Sign your pact,
Therasopoliss
Jocasta
Aniane
Albalast
Blahlahlahland

We should initiate an all out war against communist socialist nations with there small fragile economy and shitty military they will be a pushover WHOS WITH ME?

Talk to nations with massive economies and quarters of their budgets allocated to the military and then consider attacking them. (This does not include me)

[OOC: Also, never use such big fonts. It makes it harder to read, thus lessening the strength of your point.]

Official Statement of the Crown Commonwealth of Praetonia

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Following a vote in Parliament and subsequent ratification by His Majesty, the Crown Commonwealth of Praetonia wishes to sign the treaty of the Anti-Communist Treaty Organisation. Whilst it should be asserted that an early day motion condemning repressive so-called "capitalist" states like The Warmaster was also passed by Parliament, His Majesty's Government is willing to work in a limited capacity with them for the sake of defeating a greater of two evils.

His Majesty's Government feels that joining ACTO is an unequivocal expression of the Crown Commonwealth's ardent belief in the virtue and necessity of liberalism, not only in generating prosperity, peace and progress, but also as a function of the common rights of man, and its disdain for the vile authoritarian practise of enforced collectivisation which destroys endeavour, enterprise and oppurtunity.

His Majesty's Government has the greatest faith in the ACTO to eliminate at least some of the authoritarianism that plagues the world today.

God Save the King!
I never withdrew, so Im not sure why Im not on the memberlist.

ooc: Maybe because Questers has not updated memberlist at first post for very long time. Most accurate memberlist should be here:
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/ACTO#Members
although it still may have few mistakes.

We here at the Trade Union will join your alliance all 5 of our nations, we are currently involved in the Capitalist Communist War so if anybody would like to help go to the Capitalist Communist war thread in international incidents.

We here at Logan and Ky believe that Albalast is an ignorant, war mongering nation that has proven its idiocy in this alliance of hate and the senseless Capitalist-Communist war. We are considered Socialist/Communist but we have extensive rights in our country. We just try to regulate the economy so everyone is equal and happy here. We doubt you could say the same of your country. So far you have caused nothing but death and destruction.

Signed,
Erikk Svalbard
President, Logan and Ky

I am just about to make a fresh anti-bolshie alliance.

From the desk of Grand Marshall of Holy Empire of Capitalism:

As the leader of our Holy Empire, I take great pride in persoanally signing the treaty on behalf of a severly anti-Communist culture and country. We swear to do the utmost to protect the world from the threat of the- in the phrases of the mob outside the Soviet Embassy yesterday evening- "Death-Eathing Montrous Mother (beeb) (beep) (beep) (beep) (beep) (beep) Satanists."

From the Royal Aide of Emperor Heinrich II of the Achae-Ottonian Empire to the Member Nations and Leadership of ACTO:
His Imperial Majesty Heinrich II would like to request our empire's membership into this fine alliance, as the threat of Communists and Anarchists has not only threatened the stability of our nation, but the stability and security of other nations nearby, as well as the security, both economic and corporeal, of the good citizens of the Empire. He hereby wishes to sign your pact in the name of the Empire and the allied/protectorate states of Etphallia and Savonica.
-Triarius Octavius, Royal Aid to the Imperial Household and Advisor to His Imperial Majesty.
Long Live the Emperor!