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This Thread is closed for the E20 Roleplay to discuss the wheelings and dealings of the United States in the 20th Century. Economic and Military information on the United States can be found below.

United States of America: 1915

Tech Level: 5

Population: 100 million

Production centers: 100
--New York City 8; Boston 4; Philadelphia 4; Chicago 5; Pittsburgh 5; Detroit 5; Kansas City 3; Houston 3; New Orleans 3; Milwaukee 4; Cleveland 3; Cincinnati 3; Denver 3; San Francisco 4; Los Angeles 3; San Diego 2; Memphis 4; Seattle 4; Dallas 3; St. Louis 4; St Paul 2; Sacramento 3; Charleston 2; Minneapolis 2; Mobile 2; Atlanta 2; Oklahoma City 2; Baltimore 3; Omaha 1; Portland 2; Santa Fe 1; Salt Lake City 1

Resources: 60
--St. Louis 2; Sacramento 9; Seattle 8; Anchorage 6; Dallas 10; Memphis 8; Denver 3; St Paul 4; Minneapolis 4; Honolulu 6

Oil: 33
--Houston 5; Shreveport 2; Philadelphia 1; Bakersfield 2; Helena 1; Los Angeles 5; New Orleans 5; Odessa / Midland 5; Oklahoma City 5; Dallas 1; Bakersfield 1; (Venezuela 3)

Coal: 23
--West Virginia 8; Pittsburgh 7; Montana 3; Wyoming 3; Minneapolis/St. Paul 2

Food Production: 212

Commerce: 50 shipping units; 2 Cruise Liners

Colonial Empire:
Panama: Resources 3, Production Centers 3, food production 1, population .4 million,
Puerto Rico: (included in US totals), 1 Production Center
Philippines: Resources 2 (Mindanao), Production Centers 4, food production 16, population 7.9 million
US Oceania and Polynesia food production sufficient to feed its population of under 50,000

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1915 Builds (in progress):
--CUT SPENDING--

Industry: 200
Commerce: 51
Domestic Resources: 60
Colonial Resources: 18
Foreign Resources (client states): 11
Unused Oil: 25.5
Unused Coal: 13
Domestic Food Sales: 22.4
Colonial Food Sales: 2.6
Repayment of Debts: 20 from Russia, 20 from France
--443.5 Points to Spend--

Cut Spending Mode = 3% growth of total minus maintenence and social services
--Production Centers now equal Population Growth--

Population Growth
--2 million by 1916--

Domestic Expenditures:
Level 2 Social Safety Net for US--29.7 points
Level 2 Social Safety Net for Cuba--0.25 points
Level 2 Social Safety Net for Haiti--0.25 points
Level 2 Social Safety Net for Philippines--1.5 points
Level 1 Social Safety Net for Nicaragua--0.25 points
Level 1 Social Safety Net for Dominican Republic--0.25 points
Upkeep Intelligence Agency--5 points
Other Intel Missions--5 points
Total--42.2 points//

Maintenence Costs:
US Navy=29.7 points
US Navy Bases and Yards=13.5
US Army=50.7 points (note that maintenence is doubled for supply stockpiles)
US Army Reserve=29.5 points
US Marine Corps=8 points (note that maintenence is doubled for supply stockpiles)
Aid to Haiti and Cuba--Upkeep 2 Garrison Units (one each)-0.5 points
Total Maintenence--131.9 points

Military Expenditures:
3 Superdreadnaughts--18 points (year 3 of 3)
10 Fortresses--10 points (year 3 of 5)
Convert 2 Passenger Liners to Improved Seaplane Carriers--6 points
Total--34 points

Domestic Expenditures:
Trans-Alaskan Highway--20 points (year 3 of 5)
Total--20 points

Foreign Expenditures:
Aid to Haiti and Dominican Republic--2 points to grease palms and Cacos
Aid to RoC--40 points
Aid to Brazil--10 points
Support of Northern Mexican Rebels--10 points
Infastructure for DR and Nicaragua--2 points (year 2 of 3)
Antarctic Expedition Funding--1 point
Loan to Armenia--16 points
Total--81 points

About 126 points left to spend (more accurate number once 1914 maintenence is calculated

Note: The US Army, Navy and Marine Corps are Volunteer Organizations. All Stats as of 1915
Blue Italicized Units are Under Construction

United States Regular Army:
--5x Motorized Infantry Corps (Kansas; Pennsylvania; Mexico)
--2x Artillery Divisions
--3x Cavalry Divisions (Texas; New Mexico/Arizona; Oklahoma)
--2x Garrison Units (Philippines; Tahiti)
--4x Coast Defense Units (2x Panama; Pearl Harbor; Manila)
--4x Fortress Divisions (2x Panama; Manila; Oahu)
--1x Light Infantry Brigade (Iceland)
--1 Motorized HQ Unit (Virginia)
--2x Observation Plane Units
--4x Fighter Plane Units
--2x Light Bomber Units
--2x Assault Engineer Brigades
--1x Tank Brigade
Total Frontline Strength: 780,000
Maintenence: 25.35 points

United States Army Reserve:
--12x Motorized Infantry Corps
--2x Artillery Divisions
--2x Reserve Cavalry Divisions
--8x Coast Defense Units (San Fransisco; Los Angeles; Puget Sound; New York City; Norfolk; Boston; Charleston; New Orleans)
--8x Fortress Divisions (San Fransisco; Los Angeles; Puget Sound; New York City; Norfolk; Boston; Charleston; New Orleans)
--2 Observation Plane Units
--4 Fighter Plane Units
--1 Motorized HQ Unit (Virginia)
Total Reserve Strength: 1,170,000
Maintenence: 29.5 points


United States Marine Corps:
--10x Marine Brigades (2x California; 2x Virginia; 2x Mexico; New Orleans; Nicaragua; Haiti; Dominican Republic)
Total Frontline Strength: 50,000
Maintenence: 5 points


United States Navy:
Tech level 5 warships
11 Superdreadnaughts:
New Mexico, Mississippi, Idaho, Tennessee, Colorado, Maryland, Washington, West Virginia, South Dakota, Indiana, Montana, North Carolina, Iowa, Massachusetts (avaliable 1916)
14 Dreadnoughts (oil burning):
South Carolina; Michigan, Delaware, North Dakota, Florida, Utah, Wyoming, Arkansas, New York, Texas, Nevada, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Arizona
4 Superbattlecruisers:
Saratoga, Lexington, Bunker Hill, Yorktown
6 Battlecruisers (oil burning)
Constellation, Constitution, Ranger, Bon Homme Richard, Wasp, Hornet
16 Destroyer Flotillas
21 Escort Flotillas
44 Light Cruisers
20 Heavy Cruisers
12 Torpedo Boat Flotillas (US Coast Guard: 2x Atlantic, 2x Gulf of Mexico and 2x Pacific coasts), (1x China station, 2x Philippines Station, 3x Caribbean station)
2 Seaplane Carriers
--2 Seaplane Naval Bomber Units
6 Long Range Submarine Flotillas
10 Minesweeper Flotillas

Tech level 4.5 warships
5 BB1
Kansas, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Louisiana, Virginia

2 transport units (1 each coast)

Total Frontline Strength: 558,000
Maintenence: 32.7 points

Naval Yards:
Philadelphia, Portsmouth, Norfolk, Mare Island (San Fransisco), Bremerton (Seattle), Charleston, Pearl Harbor, Cavite (Philippines)
Naval Bases:
Boston, Brooklyn, Key West, Pensacola, Guantanamo Bay, Roosevelt Roads (Puerto Rico), Colon (Panama), Panama City (Panama), San Diego, Reykevik (Iceland), Tahiti (French Polynesia)

Maintenence: 13.5 points

3 fleets
Atlantic, Pacific and Asiatic Fleets

Asiatic Fleet
HQ Manila
Forces: 2 BC1, 8 CL, 1 tech 5 destroyer flotilla, 1 tech 5 submarine flotilla, 1 minesweeper flotilla
Plus 1 river gunboat flotilla in China, 1 river gunboat flotilla in Philippines

Pacific Fleet
HQ San Diego
Forces: Hawaii: 4 BC1, 8 CL, 1 tech 5 destroyer flotilla, 1 tech 5 long submarine flotilla, 1 minesweeper flotilla
Forces: San Diego: 2 BC2, 6 CL, 1 tech 5 destroyer flotilla, 1 minesweeper flotilla
Forces: San Francisco: 6 DNs (the oldest 12 inch gun ones), 3 tech 5 destroyer flotillas
Forces: Puget Sound: 1 minesweeper flotilla, 4 CL, 1 submarine flotilla

Atlantic Fleet
HQ Norfolk
Forces: Norfolk: 8 DNs, 11 SDNs, 6 tech 5 destroyer flotillas, 1 minesweeper flotilla
Forces: Charleston: all old predreadnoughts, 1 destroyer flotilla, all transports, 1 minesweeper flotilla
Forces: New York: all remaining battlecruisers and 6 CL
Forces: Boston: all remaining ships

In progress and will receive clarifications soon
--3 Destroyer Flotillas to Place
--0 CL to place (18 if 1914 are included)
--3 Subs to place

Outstanding Loans owed the United States as of 1915:

Russia (1911-1912):
--38 points
---45.5 points to return
--48 points for BCs
---48 points to return
Total = 93.5 points to return
53.5 points remain to pay back

France (1912-1913):
--40 points; 27 points
---77 points to return (1st year was special deal)
--50 points for misc ships
---50 points to return
Total = 117 points to return
97 points remain to pay back

Siam (1913):
--15 points
---18.75 points to return

Rumania (1914):
--10 points
---10 points to return

Greece (1914):
--3 points to return

Armenia (1915):
--16 points to return

Currently Spain is curious if the United States would inform us if any graves, or missing persons from the current displeasure in Cuba. We have a few missing soldiers who might have been captured by Cuban rebels, or simply died in combat and be MIA. Either way, we would appreciate any reports you may have.

The United States will open its relevant records for the Spanish government to view, though such things are by their nature incomplete and conceivably flawed. It would be indeed be good for both our nations to move past the recent unpleasantness.

ooc: I doubt i have much information on this, so I'm hoping you're just doing this for the gesture of the thing....

OOC: Yeah it's a simple gesture. They are still finding bodies of American and Spanish troops in Cuba. Just like the Spanish ships that were lost in the battle of Manila are still resting there. Last time I checked anyways. The only reason the Maine was taken out of Havana harbor was because it blocked the harbor.

IC: The incomplete nature is understood. It was a mess in itself getting the local military forces in Cuba to shift out the prisoners as you remember.

Either way, some in SPain actually believe that the USA did Spain a favor. Despite losing the war and our colonies, the truth of the matter is that the Philippines, Puerto Rico, and Cuba were becoming a drain on Spanish treasuries. Currently the Morrocan Issue seems to be rather hot. Spain doesn't really wish for any other territories. Our large persentage of Spanish in Ceutra and Mellila make it our only true holding we desire to hold onto with any relish.

OOC: Cylea, check your TGs.

OOC: Cylea, check your TGs.

replied

Sun Yat-Sen requests permission to visit the United States to speak in San Francisco and New York's Chinatown in Summer 1906. He will not stay long.

US freedom of speech laws mean that Yat-Sen is welcome in any public forum. However, he is warned in particular by the authorities of San Francisco that any turmoil stirred up in the masses by him will be viewed most unfavorably...

US freedom of speech laws mean that Yat-Sen is welcome in any public forum. However, he is warned in particular by the authorities of San Francisco that any turmoil stirred up in the masses by him will be viewed most unfavorably...

Sun assures the authorities in San Francisco he will not make too much trouble. As he does this, he boards a steamship from Tokyo to New York with a small security detail, eager to begin speaking at the Chinatown there to urge people to support the Tongmenhui and their reformist agenda.

SIC:

Meanwhile, Sun also plans to organize a Tongmenhui branch in the US as well, with its HQ in San Francisco. This is kept most secret within the Tongmenhui brass, to prevent suspicion.

OOC: Course it's nearing April 1906. Earthquake of immense perportions coming.

OOC: Course it's nearing April 1906. Earthquake of immense perportions coming.

OOC: This assumes of course, that it takes a long time for Sun to get there....anyway, edits to be made.\

EDIT: Deleted San Fran from my list of destinations.

boo to earthquakes of mammoth proportions. This one is almost certainly going to cost points to repair as well--especially if the production center in San Fran is damaged as I expect.

It is February of 1906 when news of the Algeciras Conference begins to make it back American shores. The drama of the Moroccan exit and its build up make the event worthy enough to begin leaking into higher end newspapers. Readers learn of Bacon's defense of Morocco, the behavior of the imperial powers, and most importantly, the Moroccan Declaration of Sovereignty based on the Declaration of Independence.

There are many who skip over the news on their way to more relevant stories, but there are also many who are drawn to the story. A would-be colony resisting European Imperial domination using familar rhetoric strikes a chord with thousands of Americans.

Thanks to the Spanish-American War, the United States can no longer huddle behind its ocean shields. Its possessions thousands of miles away require a longer reach, and though that reach does not necessarily mean European affairs, it does mean that the events of the world matter. Many Americans realized this in 1898 and Algeciras is only serving to accelerate the move toward that position. Nationalism is on the rise as the Eagle begins to stretch its wings (or some glorious pompous phrase like that).

Using the disrespect given the US at Algeciras as a wedge issue, Teddy Roosevelt pushes for and receives from Congress permission to continue the build up of the USN. The State of the Union address focuses on jingoistic themes--American possessions, world status, and the Monroe Doctrine. These are heady times for the young Republic indeed...

OOC: An additional IC condemnation of French actions in Morocco occurs should war break out there, which was unclear as of this posting. (I'll clarify if something actually happens). However, other than a few words, the Roosevelt administration does nothing. Quite simply, Americans care, but not nearly enough of them care enough.

The Emperor Taisho will be making a tour of European cities and will end his tour in the United States, and wishes to discuss important matters will the President.

OOC: figure the Gentlemen's accords to feature prominently

David Wolffsohn, head of the Zionist Congress, plans a tour of major cities to gain support and increase awareness of the Zionist cause before the 1907 Congress in the Hague, Netherlands. Pending approval from the various governments, Wolffsohn will end his Capetown vacation in late 1906, heading towards New York and Boston. There he will meet with Jewish community leaders and recent immigrants, as most European immigrants enter through New York or Boston. From there, he will hopefully visit the Moroccan Jewish community, though if the situation has deteriorated this segment may be omitted. Crossing the Mediterranean, he will spend some time in Palestine, visiting recently established Jewish settlements. The tour will conclude with stops in Vienna, Munich, and Cologne (the ZO's head offices are in Cologne), before arriving in the Hague to begin the conference.

Some leaders of the Zionist community express concern about the affect this might have on Wolffsohn's health (his South African vacation was for medical purposes). However, Wolffsohn has made the trip a top priority.

While no meetings with government officials are requested, any government who wishes to consult with Mr. Wolffsohn will be welcome to, if they have any questions, want him to present any statements to the conference, etc.

(OOC: The vacation and trip are both historical, although the tour focused on Eastern Europe, and was not on so great a scale. If a nation does not want Wolffsohn to attend, he will obey their wishes.)

President Roosevelt looks forward to meeting Emperor Taisho. (ooc: are we going to do the discussion by tg or in the threads?) In addition, David Wolffsohn is free to tour the United States.

OOC: An additional IC condemnation of French actions in Morocco occurs should war break out there, which was unclear as of this posting. (I'll clarify if something actually happens). However, other than a few words, the Roosevelt administration does nothing. Quite simply, Americans care, but not nearly enough of them care enough.

The French Ambassador, Jean-Jules Jusserand, comes to visit President Roosevelt and informs him that if the US Government condemns France or releases any negative statements regarding the "pacification" of Morocco then France will reveal through the US newspapers the rather unpleasant facts regarding Ion Perdicaris (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perdicaris_incident) and the fact President Roosevelt may have lied about the incident to the American public in order to get reelected.

(OOC: Seriously, Roosevelt will not want that revealed.)

President Roosevelt looks forward to meeting Emperor Taisho. (ooc: are we going to do the discussion by tg or in the threads?) In addition, David Wolffsohn is free to tour the United States.

we can do it here, it's not secretive

The French Ambassador, Jean-Jules Jusserand, comes to visit President Roosevelt and informs him that if the US Government condemns France or releases any negative statements regarding the "pacification" of Morocco then France will reveal through the US newspapers the rather unpleasant facts regarding Ion Perdicaris (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perdicaris_incident) and the fact President Roosevelt may have lied about the incident to the American public in order to get reelected.

(OOC: Seriously, Roosevelt will not want that revealed.)

OOC: I am disappointed Amestria. Blackmail--to Teddy Roosevelt of all people? He may not want this (completely irrelevant gossip) revealed, but he wants to be strong-armed by a European so much less. I'd like to think I know the reaction to that.

IC: After being flashed a trademarked toothy-grin from President Roosevelt, Ambassador Jusserand is thrown out of the Oval Office with something just short of physical force. It is demanded of the French government to withdraw him immediately.

The Administration moves to immediately and preemptively release all information on Ion Perdicaris complete with an apology for the over-reaction of the United States in the matter. (The official spin is something to the effect of "look what we are willing to do when we believe a citizen of our great nation is in danger") However, tied to all reports of Mr. Perdicaris are full, unflattering portraits of French attempts at blackmail using the issue and reminders of previous French efforts to undermine the United States in Mexico. Every effort is made to keep the focus on French meddling and not on Political cartoons depict Frogs in French dress threatening TR waving his Big Stick among other things.

OOC: I realize that the political machines 100 years ago are not nearly as sophisticated as the ones we have today, but the attempt is there and there should still be at least some effect. In addition, I tend to think that the rise in US nationalism at the turn of the century would cause any perceived meddling by a European power in US sovereign policy to be received very poorly. Honestly, a French blackmail attempt just seems like it would be more important to Americans than an over-reaction on the part of their government. Of course, a mod may disagree. I have no doubt Amestria will.

OOC: I realize that the political machines 100 years ago are not nearly as sophisticated as the ones we have today, but the attempt is there and there should still be at least some effect. In addition, I tend to think that the rise in US nationalism at the turn of the century would cause any perceived meddling by a European power in US sovereign policy to be received very poorly. Honestly, a French blackmail attempt just seems like it would be more important to Americans than an over-reaction on the part of their government. Of course, a mod may disagree. I have no doubt Amestria will.

As Assistant Referee:
From what I know about turn of the century American nationalism, I am of the opinion that the American public will be more outraged over attempted blackmail of the United States government than by the incident itself. I agree with Cylea that a plurality (I won't say majority, because there will surely be some who don't care one way or another) of Americans will support their government's stance in this matter. That said, however, there will be some sort of public outcry over the Ion Perdicaris affair, and as long as Cylea RPs it as such I don't see a problem. Of course, I don't have a degree in American History, so if a more qualified mod has a differing opinion, go with what they say.

Message to the United States of America

Greetings!

Her Royal Highness, Queen Wilhelmina of the netherlands, has expressed her wish to visit the United States of America to meet the President and tour the country. Perhaps we could also talk about different matters such as politics, trade etc.

Prime Minister Abraham Kuyper of the Netherlands

As Assistant Referee:
From what I know about turn of the century American nationalism, I am of the opinion that the American public will be more outraged over attempted blackmail of the United States government than by the incident itself. I agree with Cylea that a plurality (I won't say majority, because there will surely be some who don't care one way or another) of Americans will support their government's stance in this matter. That said, however, there will be some sort of public outcry over the Ion Perdicaris affair, and as long as Cylea RPs it as such I don't see a problem. Of course, I don't have a degree in American History, so if a more qualified mod has a differing opinion, go with what they say.

That seems fair to me. Congressional elections in 1906 are likely not going to go nearly as well for Republicans as they did in RL...

Message to the United States of America

Greetings!

Her Royal Highness, Queen Wilhelmina of the netherlands, has expressed her wish to visit the United States of America to meet the President and tour the country. Perhaps we could also talk about different matters such as politics, trade etc.

Prime Minister Abraham Kuyper of the Netherlands

The United States is eager to maintain friendly relations with nations in Europe as it begins to join the international community as a power itself. President Roosevelt would be happy to meet with Queen Wilhelmina who would be invited to spend the night in the White House as an honored guest. Trade talks would be especially helpful, considering both our nations have choice colonies in the Pacific--your East Indies and our Philippines...

It is demanded of the French government to withdraw him immediately.

Ambassador Jean-Jules Jusserand is quietly recalled and replaced with someone new and inoffensive (the current French Ambassador to the UK). Jean-Jules Jusserand meanwhile is reassigned as Ambassador to the United Kingdom.

The Republic of Argentina contacts the American government in Washington, requesting American financial aid in expanding Argentina's industrial base. The Argentine economy is currently much smaller than its potential, and representatives of the Republic point out that a developed and prosperous Argentina would allow more and better opportunities for trade with the US.

On another note, the Argentine Ministry of Defense requests that it be allowed to dispatch a small number of observers to the American Army, to observe the training methods and tactics of their North American counterparts.

[OOC: Basically I want to shift from a conscript military to a volunteer one, for better quality troops, but I need an IC reason to do so; seeing a volunteer force close-up may help change the opinions of some officials]

President Roosevelt looks forward to meeting Emperor Taisho. (ooc: are we going to do the discussion by tg or in the threads?) In addition, David Wolffsohn is free to tour the United States.

Emperor Taisho entered the room and shook hands with President Roosevelt. "Thank you for letting me meet with you, Mr. President. I wish to discuss with you the situation in the Pacific and your current nation's anger at Japanese immigration"

OOC: a note on the timing of this. What month are we in? April 1906 has that nasty earthquake in San Fran while in October that same city sets off a diplomatic crisis by insisting japanese children be taught in segregated schools. I think that the incident is more along the lines of what we are about to talk about.

IC: The Emperor received a strong grip, enormous grin, and pat on the back as he was led to a chair by the President.

"Straight to the point, I like that in a man. Down to business then."

Roosevelt settled into his chair.

"You know as well as I that people are loath to accept something that is different--that they do not understand. The hostility concerning immigration to which you refer is one to which I am most aware, but also unable to do much about. I do hope that the future will hold a solution to this issue.

Discussing the situation in the Pacific I believe holds far more promise right now. Let us return to the immigration issue a little later. Remind me again what territories Japan possesses in the Pacific?"

The Republic of Argentina contacts the American government in Washington, requesting American financial aid in expanding Argentina's industrial base. The Argentine economy is currently much smaller than its potential, and representatives of the Republic point out that a developed and prosperous Argentina would allow more and better opportunities for trade with the US.

On another note, the Argentine Ministry of Defense requests that it be allowed to dispatch a small number of observers to the American Army, to observe the training methods and tactics of their North American counterparts.

[OOC: Basically I want to shift from a conscript military to a volunteer one, for better quality troops, but I need an IC reason to do so; seeing a volunteer force close-up may help change the opinions of some officials]

Congress, pressured by Roosevelt to shore up the Americas against influences from Europe that might threaten the hallowed Monroe Doctrine, passes a series of measures that will provide economic aid to many nations in South America in 1906. Included in particular is Argentina.

In addition, Argentinian military personal are welcome to view US training and formations. If nothing else, it will provide our officers the opportunity to maintain the Spanish they have picked up during the recent adventure in the Philippines and Cuba...

The American Government is advised that a decree has been issued by the Sultan advising all US citizens to head to Tangiers and the American Consulate there for safety, the government might consider either evacuating them or deploying a forces for their protection. Either action is acceptable to us.

OOC: a note on the timing of this. What month are we in? April 1906 has that nasty earthquake in San Fran while in October that same city sets off a diplomatic crisis by insisting japanese children be taught in segregated schools. I think that the incident is more along the lines of what we are about to talk about.

IC: The Emperor received a strong grip, enormous grin, and pat on the back as he was led to a chair by the President.

"Straight to the point, I like that in a man. Down to business then."

Roosevelt settled into his chair.

"You know as well as I that people are loath to accept something that is different--that they do not understand. The hostility concerning immigration to which you refer is one to which I am most aware, but also unable to do much about. I do hope that the future will hold a solution to this issue.

Discussing the situation in the Pacific I believe holds far more promise right now. Let us return to the immigration issue a little later. Remind me again what territories Japan possesses in the Pacific?"


"We currently hold the Bonin's, Ryukyu's, and Formosa, and are seeking to Purchase the Dutch East Indies. I don't suppose we could entice you to sell anything?

We would also seek a Non-Agression Pact with you, as well as economic deals"

The American Government is advised that a decree has been issued by the Sultan advising all US citizens to head to Tangiers and the American Consulate there for safety, the government might consider either evacuating them or deploying a forces for their protection. Either action is acceptable to us.

All American citizens in Morocco are urged to leave the country for safer realms. The aftermath of the Ion Perdicaris scandal means that our public will not look kindly on another deployment of forces to the same region of the world to rescue still more civilians. However, those citizens who are unable to leave are urged to obey the Sultan and flee to Tangiers in the hope that at least that place will be spared.

The United States issues a formal condemnation of the use of force in Morocco that will soon be used by all sides. The Moroccans are urged to allow European nationals to flee their nation and France, Germany, and Spain are all asked to respect Moroccan independence.

It is fully expected, and apparent to the political cartoonists of the age that the plea will fall on deaf ears...

(OOC: and yes, i am fully aware that citizens fleeing to Tangiers will be in the crosshairs of the europeans. No lectures please--this fact wouldnt necessarily be apparent in the confused situation of Spring 1906)

"We currently hold the Bonin's, Ryukyu's, and Formosa, and are seeking to Purchase the Dutch East Indies. I don't suppose we could entice you to sell anything?

We would also seek a Non-Agression Pact with you, as well as economic deals"

"The United States is not very interested in parting with any of its Pacific possessions at this time. However, I believe Congress would happily sign a non-aggression pact with Japan.

What sort of economic deals were you thinking of?"

"The United States is not very interested in parting with any of its Pacific possessions at this time. However, I believe Congress would happily sign a non-aggression pact with Japan.

What sort of economic deals were you thinking of?"

"We are always low on metal and oil, as our nation lacks those resouces. If the Indonesian deal goes through, we will have oil. However, a simple trading of goods would benefit both our nations"

OOC: probably no in-game effects, just assume we trade resources we need

"We are always low on metal and oil, as our nation lacks those resouces. If the Indonesian deal goes through, we will have oil. However, a simple trading of goods would benefit both our nations"

OOC: probably no in-game effects, just assume we trade resources we need

The United States has a surplus of both goods as our industrial areas expand. There should be no problem with supplying Japan with both as needs warrant.

OOC: No offense of course, but if the Netherlands sells you the Indies, that player is a moron. If you dont get them though, I should have lots of oil to spare for quite awhile. Just tell me how many points you need a year and I'll see what I can do. Metals likely have no ingame effect.

The United States has a surplus of both goods as our industrial areas expand. There should be no problem with supplying Japan with both as needs warrant.

OOC: No offense of course, but if the Netherlands sells you the Indies, that player is a moron. If you dont get them though, I should have lots of oil to spare for quite awhile. Just tell me how many points you need a year and I'll see what I can do. Metals likely have no ingame effect.

"We thank you for your cooperation in these matters"

OOC: Hey, I need the oil, and if I'm desperate I could always seize them like RL, but instead I can pay very well and they get money

OOC: This assumes of course, that it takes a long time for Sun to get there....anyway, edits to be made.\

EDIT: Deleted San Fran from my list of destinations.

OOC: Hope this works, if not, it can be changed or deleted. Disregard the above quote--I finally decided to have Sun visit San Francisco, but after the Quake.

IC:

When Sun gets to America with a small security detail, he moves to speak in San Francisco and New York to the Chinese there and potential sympathizers (or equivalent thereof in 1906, should I be wrong), To his Chinese audience, he emphasizes the need for a strong China, democratically governed with the People's Welfare in mind. To his non-Chinese audience, he speaks of a strong, democratic China, though he modifies the more controversial parts of his message out.

In San Francisco, he also can be seen on the streets, pitching in with a shovel along with his security detail and donating whatever cash he has on hand to help local Chinese out. He also moves to base the Tongmenhui in America in NYC, owing to the circumstances---he talks to local Chinese there about setting up a branch, albeit quietly.

Spain issues a proclomation to the United States that such a threat on innoccent civilians by Morroco can not go unpunished. However, US citiziens shall be afforded the same duties as all innoccents in the current situation.

ooc
the 1906 Earthquake will not only have the effects it does historically (burns down San Francisco basically) but also will have the game effect of damaging the production center at San Francisco (which will require repairs)

another major thing occuring on the US West Coast at this time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentlemen%27s_Agreement

ooc
the 1906 Earthquake will not only have the effects it does historically (burns down San Francisco basically) but also will have the game effect of damaging the production center at San Francisco (which will require repairs)

another major thing occuring on the US West Coast at this time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentlemen%27s_Agreement

we were doing the agreement, but Cylea steered me away from that

OOC: well, i wouldnt say we werent going to do it. I was just considering different possibilities...

As for earthquake time--appreciate the update. I'm assuming the quake is in April as usual since that wasnt specified, and the damage done is about what i guessed would be the in game effect. Am I allowed to work the repair cost into my 1906 build?

OOC: well, i wouldnt say we werent going to do it. I was just considering different possibilities...

As for earthquake time--appreciate the update. I'm assuming the quake is in April as usual since that wasnt specified, and the damage done is about what i guessed would be the in game effect. Am I allowed to work the repair cost into my 1906 build?

whenever we want to do that, unless you want to just do what they did historically

OOC: well, i wouldnt say we werent going to do it. I was just considering different possibilities...

As for earthquake time--appreciate the update. I'm assuming the quake is in April as usual since that wasnt specified, and the damage done is about what i guessed would be the in game effect. Am I allowed to work the repair cost into my 1906 build?

yes you can

whenever we want to do that, unless you want to just do what they did historically

ehhh, screw creativity. The historical solution seems simple enough that it isnt worth meddling in. I vote we just go with that and hope we dont get too hostile toward each other in the future.

The Spanish Ambassador asks for an audience with the President.

The Spanish Ambassador asks for an audience with the President.

And he will receive one. I assume timeframe wise this is at the same time as the invasion of Morocco? I expect that issue will come up...

OOC: Yes it will.

IC: "Good day Colonel Roosevelt, or as it's now, Mr. President." The man was about Roosevelt's age, and had a limp that he was forced to use a cane when he walked. "I'm sorry for using your old title, but I prefer to begin an introduction with the honorable title of use by a fighting man. And if I remember correctly from that Hill in Cuba, you are definetly a fighting man." He had a rather disarming smile, one that showed he was talking with respect, but that he also allowed Roosevelt to talk as if they were simply two veterans.

"Of course I will get to the point right away sir." He said as he waited to be invited to sit, when he was, he gently sat his form down, making sure that it didn't take too long. "You see the current displeasure in Morroco has set us at somewhat of odds, and Spain wishes that the healing that began after the war 8 years ago does not go sour. SO they sent an old veteran such as myself to talk."

He coughed in his hand. "You see it's rather unfortunate the current events. Spain has been anti-colonial in population for some time. IN fact we didn't expect to get any possitives in the conference at all. It was to our suprise that we got anything. Unfortunitly, our good intentions have not been seen as such." He sighed as he ran a hand through his hair and placed a folder in front of the president. "This was to be stated a month after the Conference. That in five years time SPain would relinquish it's holds on every Morrocan place except Ceurta. And that we would withdraw settlers and all Spanish populations in the area. Any Spanish who stayed would have to become Morrocan citiziens. We'd have used the resources we obtained to help the Morrocans."

He let out one long sigh. "Unfortunitly, we've ended up with a war. And we wish it hadn't occured. Now Spanish boys will be killed in an affair we wished to never see. France and Germany wish to see themselves in a day in the sun, and we don't have any right to state otherwise, but we ourselves just wish to be left alone. THe war with the US, while unfortunate, taught us many things. ANd we found that an empire no longer suits Spain."

He sighed again. "All Spain wishes to ask is that the US continue on it's course to heal the old wounds so we may become friends. OUr past has actually been a gift to both of us. Our loss actually helped and your victory helped you as well. THat is all we ask."

American newspapers condemn planned European aggression in Morocco, including cartoons showing France, Germany and Spain as vultures circling a man in the desert on his knees.

ooc
isn't Yellow Journalism fun?

ehhh, screw creativity. The historical solution seems simple enough that it isnt worth meddling in. I vote we just go with that and hope we dont get too hostile toward each other in the future.

good to me. The Gentlemen's agreement will be seen as favorable in the Japanese government who want to keep their citizens to go to Korea and Formosa

Sir Gray, after his tiring trip to Germany to finalize the Accords, quietly travels to Washington to visit Hay. No details are given on what the meeting is and only a few actually know what happened there, although, it is known that both Hay and Gray were very pleased when they left the meeting.

(Basically an IC action for when me and Cylea were talking on AIM earlier)

Parthini;11646837']Sir Gray, after his tiring trip to Germany to finalize the Accords, quietly travels to Washington to visit Hay. No details are given on what the meeting is and only a few actually know what happened there, although, it is known that both Hay and Gray were very pleased when they left the meeting.

(Basically an IC action for when me and Cylea were talking on AIM earlier)

OOC: I can confirm that. Although Sec State in 1906 is Elihu Root. Hay died in 1905.

American newspapers condemn planned European aggression in Morocco, including cartoons showing France, Germany and Spain as vultures circling a man in the desert on his knees.

ooc
isn't Yellow Journalism fun?

ooc: beat me to it

IC: Following up on its promise earlier, the Roosevelt Administration formerly condemns European actions in Morocco as both unilateral and excessive, and calls for the withdrawal of foriegn troops. The United States requests a second conference to fairly debate the fate of Morocco. It is widely known that such a move has no chance of succeeding.

A bill in Congress that would authorize the use of the US military to intervene fails in subcommitee, killed by Republicans who fear the President does not have the political capital to spend. The Ion Perdicaris is swept to the side by the momentum of papers with far more interesting things (like death and mayhem) to cover for the people. Public opinon sours against the French and Germans notably, with the Spanish being seen as tag-a-longs trying to recover from the beating given them 8 years earlier.

OOC: Yes it will.

IC: "Good day Colonel Roosevelt, or as it's now, Mr. President." The man was about Roosevelt's age, and had a limp that he was forced to use a cane when he walked. "I'm sorry for using your old title, but I prefer to begin an introduction with the honorable title of use by a fighting man. And if I remember correctly from that Hill in Cuba, you are definetly a fighting man." He had a rather disarming smile, one that showed he was talking with respect, but that he also allowed Roosevelt to talk as if they were simply two veterans.

"Of course I will get to the point right away sir." He said as he waited to be invited to sit, when he was, he gently sat his form down, making sure that it didn't take too long. "You see the current displeasure in Morroco has set us at somewhat of odds, and Spain wishes that the healing that began after the war 8 years ago does not go sour. SO they sent an old veteran such as myself to talk."

He coughed in his hand. "You see it's rather unfortunate the current events. Spain has been anti-colonial in population for some time. IN fact we didn't expect to get any possitives in the conference at all. It was to our suprise that we got anything. Unfortunitly, our good intentions have not been seen as such." He sighed as he ran a hand through his hair and placed a folder in front of the president. "This was to be stated a month after the Conference. That in five years time SPain would relinquish it's holds on every Morrocan place except Ceurta. And that we would withdraw settlers and all Spanish populations in the area. Any Spanish who stayed would have to become Morrocan citiziens. We'd have used the resources we obtained to help the Morrocans."

He let out one long sigh. "Unfortunitly, we've ended up with a war. And we wish it hadn't occured. Now Spanish boys will be killed in an affair we wished to never see. France and Germany wish to see themselves in a day in the sun, and we don't have any right to state otherwise, but we ourselves just wish to be left alone. THe war with the US, while unfortunate, taught us many things. ANd we found that an empire no longer suits Spain."

He sighed again. "All Spain wishes to ask is that the US continue on it's course to heal the old wounds so we may become friends. OUr past has actually been a gift to both of us. Our loss actually helped and your victory helped you as well. THat is all we ask."

Roosevelt nodded in return. "It has been nearly a decade since our nations came to blows. It would indeed be a tragedy to see us opposed again."

He paused as his eyes flashed through the folder from behind his glasses. "Well this is an interesting file. As you well know, public opinion was a major factor in 1898, and always will be in a great democracy. Today the papers are having a field day with the European intervention in Morocco. If your intentions for that nation are or were so pure, why did your government order troops to support the French and Germans? It is not too late to stop this madness before more young boys die."

He nodded his head. "That it was a very important factor in 1898. The problem is that Morroco has put death warrants on Spanish settlers heads. Spain supported Germany and SPain because Morroco has threatened the lives of innoccent bystanders. A country that can not protect it's own people is not a proper country."

"If you also remember, we offered Morroco many benefits if they were to sign the agreement. Spain was ready to put all of the supplies it garned from Morroco back into their economy. ANd we were going to diplomatically ask Germany and France to put it in. I believe I read once about your countries Civil War almost 50 years ago. And I remember a quote from a SOuthern Gentleman who escapes me at this moment. He said, "I had my hand outreached to bring peace, and sadly as it was refused, when I laid my hand down it laid down beside a seccesionist."

He coughed as he leaned back. "You see we thought we acted in accordance to allow Morroco to see that if it cooperated it would benefit. That at least Spain wanted to truly help and not get anything from this venture. However, with haste the Sultan threatened us, and so we had to act. We lost alot of face in Europe when we lost to the United States. We might as well allow ourselves to be conquered if we lost any more face. Our economy, our people would suffer. And yes it will be a shame. But let me ask you one thing. If we refuse to send our troops to support our people, will the Morrocans change their minds and spare our SPanish settlers?"

"I think veterans such as ourselves know they will not. THey will slaughter our people and we would have done nothing to stop them. I can promise you one thing, Spain wishes for no new territories. WHen this war ends, Spain will not ask or demand any more influence. In fact we are thinking of handing over three of our spaces to the French or Germans."

"Of the insults that were to be inflicted on the sovereignty of Morocco, those pursued by Spain were by far the most leniant. It is a damn shame that such a position was not considered by the other European powers. But the moment for action in that arena passed months ago."

The President trailed off before continuing. "Debating the semantics of Algeciras gets us nowhere. You came to this office hoping to keep our two nations friendly? The Moroccan conflict is unfortunate, and the relative positions of Madrid and Washington even more so, but I find it difficult to predict the direction things will go in the future."

Roosevelt moved closer to the veteran to shake his hand. "I can say though that I appreciate Madrid's gesture in sending you sir. It is true what they say about veterans having the most important things in common."

Following up on its promise earlier, the Roosevelt Administration formerly condemns European actions in Morocco as both unilateral and excessive, and calls for the withdrawal of foreign troops. The United States requests a second conference to fairly debate the fate of Morocco. It is widely known that such a move has no chance of succeeding.

The French Ambassador to the United States (the New Ambassador) issues several statements, rejecting America's call for the withdrawal of troops and its request for a second conference.

"The fate of Morocco has already been fairly debated and decided, the Algeciras Conference concluded, and the resulting treaty acceptable to all European parties present. All European parties present signed The Algeciras Treaty, it is internationally recognized as legitimate, and France, Germany, and Spain’s actions therefore legal."

He also makes a spirited defense of France’s actions.

"America's news barons seem to have forgotten that behind the flowery language of the Sultans declaration lays a corrupt autocratic despotism that exists not because of the consent of the governed but because of the threat of violence from tribalistic bandits, and which cannot maintain order one mile outside the gates of Fes. For too long has France looked the other way as Morocco sank further and further into wretched disorder, no longer. We intend to police our frontiers in Africa, just as America polices its frontiers in Central America and the Caribbean."

Except for those few public statements issued by the Ambassador, the French Government mostly ignores the United State’s condemnation and formal statements.

The Ion Perdicaris is swept to the side by the momentum of papers with far more interesting things (like death and mayhem) to cover for the people. Public opinon sours against the French and Germans notably, with the Spanish being seen as tag-a-longs trying to recover from the beating given them 8 years earlier.

American newspapers condemn planned European aggression in Morocco, including cartoons showing France, Germany and Spain as vultures circling a man in the desert on his knees.

In France the newspapers are busy as well, one showing a caricature of TR running up to French and Spanish soldiers shouting "For shame, for shame, you should stop" while behind him the turbaned Sultan of Morocco beheads a European women with his scimitar.

Another cartoon shows a giant TR standing upon a representation of the US, surrounded by lesser American figures. "Hmmm," TR remarks, "It's terrible, just terrible what the French, Germans, and Spanish are doing to Morocco...violating its sovereignty like that."

"Right," agrees an American soldier rounding up "savage Indians" for the reservation.

"True, very true," echoes American soldier counting money in the Dominican Republic. (ooc: Right now the US controls the Dominican Republics custom house).

"Just awful," nods an American soldier as he kills a rebel in the Philippines.

As Assistant Researcher

Conditions in Central America and the Caribbean as of March/April 1906 (with the exception of Cuba)

Central America and the Caribbean were rather unstable in the early 20th century, prone petty despotism, civil war, and outbreaks of strafe.

Haiti: This troubled impoverished Caribbean nation is presently under the rule of the 85/86 year old President Pierre Nord Alexis, whose four year regime has been plagued by rebellion and frequent accusations of corruption. President Pierre Nord Alexis was declared President by a legislature held hostage in December 21, 1902 following a US backed coup. Alexis has cast himself as a supporter of American interests in the Caribbean (why they helped him to power) and he is very likely to die soon from old age, leaving a power vacuum. There are many people opposed to his regime that were or are loyal to the former rebel leader Antenor Firmin.

Ninety percent of the population is Creole-speaking blacks, the large majority of them illiterate. The remaining ten percent, the élite, are mixed race, Franco-black multattoes whose language is French; for the most part they have been educated in France and form the professional and governing class. The élite have grown fat and rich off government jobs, contracts, and enormous amounts of graft. The two classes, not surprisingly, have nothing but contempt for each other.

Added to this mix are the cacos (name derived from the "kaa-ko" call of a local bird of prey), the perpetual wild card in the deadly game of Haitian "politics". Descended from runaway slaves, the cacos live in quasi-military band throughout the north and central mountains. In times of peace they exist by pure banditry: preying on farmers, extorting whole villages, and robbing travelers Haiti's few miles of bad road. They take money from any revolutionary faction seeking the National Palace in Port-au-Prince, serving as an insurgent force until their "candidate" achieved the Presidency. If a rebellion fails they merely retreat back into their mountain forts, or slip over the border into the Dominican Republic. In the event of a successful revolution though the cacos demand their "fair share" of the national treasure. A president retained their support only so long as he paid. Once the money stops the cacos change sides and support the next contender.

A very unstable place, one would describe it as perpetually poised on the brink.


Dominican Republic: Currently stable under President Ramón Cáceres. The US currently administers the Dominican Republic's customs, the major source of government revenues, in order to facilitate the repayment of outstanding European debts.


Guatemala: Presently under the dictatorial rule of President Manuel Estrada Cabrera. The United Fruit Company has become an important force in Guatemala, being hired to manage/administer the country’s postal system. As of 1906 Cabrera is facing serious revolts against his regime; the rebels being supported by the governments of most other Central American nations.

One very curious fact, Estrada Cabrera is attempting to foster a Cult of Minerva in Guatemala. He has ordered or is planning to order a number of Hellenic style "Temples of Minerva" built in major cities throughout the country.


Honduras: Presently stable under the administration of Liberal turned Conservative Manuel Bonilla. The President has given generous concessions to the banana companies along the north coast.


Costa Rica: A rare example of political stability in the region (cynics would say the example of stability that proves the rule of instability), it is peacefully continuing its development under President Ascensión Esquivel Ibarra and as of May 1906, President Cleto de Jesús González Víquez.


El Salvador: Currently under the Military Dictatorship of President Pedro José Escalón. The El Salvador coffee industry has grown inexorably of late. As a result the rural elite provide the bulk of the government's financial support through import duties on goods imported with the foreign currencies that coffee sales have earned. This support, coupled with the humbler and more mundane mechanisms of corruption ensure the coffee growers an overwhelming influence within the El Salvador Government and military


Nicaragua: Presently controlled by Liberal* President José Santos Zelaya (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/JZelaya.jpg), an obnoxiously nationalistic corruption ridden kleptocrat with ambitions of reuniting the United States of Central America under a Nicaraguan hegemony, with himself as national president. His regime is solvent but dominated by monopolies granted to favorites, the normal order of business, with Zelaya and his associates enriching themselves. The US Government despises him…they REALLY loath him, the State Department considering him “guilty of murder and rape, as well as robbing his countrymen by graft to the extent of making himself a multi-millionaire.” The US has been trying to undermine his 13 year rule through dollar diplomacy, but his regime remains firm, although there remain Conservative and some Liberal politicos in Eastern Nicaragua that plot revolution.

*In Nicaragua, Liberal and Conservative originally connoted anti- and pro-clericalism respectively. By the early 20th century these labels signify little more then variations of a debilitating, hereditary regionalism, or localismo. Conservatives, on balance, are less anti-American then their liberal counterparts.

He is not well liked by neighboring countries either, since he wants his country to dominate them and gives aid to liberal federalist (political or rebel) factions in other Central American nations. As mentioned earlier, he is also obnoxious. “Appeal by all means!” he told a Peruvian facing deportation. “When I ridicule the United States, laugh at Germany, and spit on England, what do you suppose I care for your beggarly little Peru?”

OOC: oh propaganda wars. I love them so. Thanks for the research too btw.

"Yes it is true. Well I hope that you will continue to see me in the future. I believe my country has use for me in this arena for some time. I think them wise at this current time. And hopefully the future will be a birght one, and that it's splendors is what we fail to see as of yet." He returned the handshake.

(Of course this is before the assasination.)

"Yes it is true. Well I hope that you will continue to see me in the future. I believe my country has use for me in this arena for some time. I think them wise at this current time. And hopefully the future will be a birght one, and that it's splendors is what we fail to see as of yet." He returned the handshake.

(Of course this is before the assasination.)

OOC: Indeed. Secretary of State Elihu Root will attend the funeral by the way. (dead kings are more important than silly conferences anyway!) President Roosevelt will take the first trip abroad for a sitting US Prez to Panama toward the end of the year.

August 23 - Unable to control a rebellion in the newly-formed Cuban republic, Pres. Tomás Estrada Palma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%C3%A1s_Estrada_Palma) requests U.S. intervention...

The American Reaction:

President Roosevelt orders elements of the United States Marine Corps (One Light Infantry Brigade) to intervene in Cuba on August 25th to resecure the Palma government. Marines make landings at Havana as soon as possible and Santiago a week later, covered by 2 destroyers at each landing zone. The marines move to defend key positions in these two cities, then begin probing the countryside to test the strength of the rebel positions. President Palma is reaffirmed by Washington to be the legitimate ruler of the island nation.

Back home, Congress is quietly reminded by the Administration of the need to assure that the Caribbean is safe for American interests. A bill increasing the size of the Marine Corps by 50% (one more infantry brigade) to assure this occurs passes relatively easily. The news from Europe of the battle for Morocco helps the passage, by hilighting the need for many to keep a rapid reaction force strong.

ooc: I think I probably need moderator ruling on the results of 'peacekeeping' here.

ooc
history shows the Marines were extremely effective in this mission, and never suffered any significant losses while controlling the small nations that they ran without significant difficulty. These nations, particularly Haiti were the most secure that they would be in the 20th Century. Until the Marines left.

In short, the US will suffer no significant losses

This is the best source concerning US involvement in the Caribbean
http://www.amazon.com/Savage-Wars-Peace-American-Power/dp/046500721X

Its also an excellent source on American involvment in numerous other interventions since 1800

IC
US Marines rapidly put down rioting, mostly through intimidation, and although a few of the leading insurrectos are shot, the rest disband and return home. Cuba waits to see what the Americans will do next.

While Sun Yat Sen is on tour, Song Jiaoren is tasked by Sun to make contact with political leaders across the world. He begins by sending a telegram to President Roosevelt, asking if he may have an audience with him.

Wolffsohn arrives in New York City, fresh and rejuvenated from his vacation. His meetings in New York are focused on discussions with other Zionist leaders, prominent members of the Jewish community, and, obviously, potential donors of all faiths. At a speech at the Hebrew Union College, the oldest Jewish seminary in the Americas (only 30 years old), he praises the American culture of tolerance (or at least, comparative tolerance), and the fine quality of life for immigrants (again, comparatively). Meeting with Jewish leaders of all sects and opinions, including opponents of Zionism, he discusses their various viewpoints in an attempt to find common ground. He also pays a visit to Yeshiva University, one of the more prominent and newest Jewish universities in the Americas, paying a visit to student groups.

As the nation with the highest rate of immigration, though, it is important to meet with new immigrants. So, he heads north to Boston, a primary port of call for new immigrants. While also meeting with influential personalities, especially at area universities, his main focus is immigrants. Most are from Russia, fleeing persecution, though others come from Romania, Germany, and almost every other country on earth. The poor social and economic conditions of Palestine (though a safer country than Russia, at the least) were a primary reason refugees chose America over Palestine, and most Western Europeans did not consider Palestine, as the conditions were far worst than those in most modern nations.

With new friends, funds, and ideas, Wolffsohn bids America farewell, leaving Boston on a ship to London. He hopes to make a return to America someday, on a more comprehensive tour.

US 1906 Economic Build:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11609243&postcount=2

IC: Other Events of 1906!

San Fran Earthquake. President Roosevelt vows immediate aid to the region, funnelling Federal Government dollars into repairing industry and other critical infastructure. (12 points in budget to repair industrial center). The rapid, effective response further cements Roosevelt's popularity with the American people. The Republicans continue to hold Congress, with the barest of decreases to their majority--mostly in a few districts where the Democrats emphasize Republican connections with the Ion Perdicaris Affair. However, other US successes render the issue mostly mute by election time in November. Some discussion briefly spreads among the citizenry of an unprecedented 3rd Term for Roosevelt, especially when the president merely grins when questioned about the possibility of running again.

Cuba. Meetings with Roosevelt increase President Palma's resolve in Cuba. With the firm backing of American troops and Washington, Palma wins the 1906 election (historical) and vows to continue his term (counter-historical). Another Marine regiment is shifted to Cuba and Congress increases its quota for the Corps again in response.

Foreign Affairs. Congress passes bills issuing aid to Chile and Argentina, to keep South America close to the paths Washington prefers. In addition, money is sent to Siam in response to persistant appeals from that nation's ambassadors. The desire to twist the knife in the French side again is reported in some yellow Journals, but is widely denied by the Government.

Domestic Affairs. Mostly mundane and following the course of history. The Pure Food and Drug Act is passed. Devils Tower becomes the first National Monument and Teddy earns the Nobel Peace Prize. Modernization of the Army begins (militia units being retrained as basic infantry) and the Navy has 4 dreadnaughts under construction. The National Security Agency (NSA) is founded to give American ears an international reach like that the French used so well in Morocco. Teddy vists the Panama Canal presently under construction and his enthusiasm for the project is widely reported--it is "just bully!"

While Sun Yat Sen is on tour, Song Jiaoren is tasked by Sun to make contact with political leaders across the world. He begins by sending a telegram to President Roosevelt, asking if he may have an audience with him.

Roosevelt will meet with Sun Yat Sen.

OOC: Err.. Cylea nobody but the UK can build battlecruisers at the moment.
You have to research it for 6 point first.

Battle cruisers -- UK free, all others 6 points and must be tech level 5

The United States is thanked for its generous aid money, and also for allowing Argentine observers to join US Marines in putting down the rebellion in Cuba. Buenos Aires hopes that friendly relations will continue between our two nations.

Buenos Aires also inquires as to the possibility of Argentina importing American coal in the future.

(That makes me feel a bit better)

IC: The United Kingdom approaches the United States about securing some of the US's coal for energy use by the Empire. Britain is sorely lacking in such resources, and would appreciate the gesture. (i.e. me not paying you that much money for it)

OOC: Err.. Cylea nobody but the UK can build battlecruisers at the moment.
You have to research it for 6 point first.

my, that makes me feel a little dumb. Thanks for the catch. I'll change my build to research that instead, and build 'em next year. Appreciate it!

Check your TGs, Cylea.

Parthini;11665204'](That makes me feel a bit better)

IC: The United Kingdom approaches the United States about securing some of the US's coal for energy use by the Empire. Britain is sorely lacking in such resources, and would appreciate the gesture. (i.e. me not paying you that much money for it)

The United States could probably be persuaded to sell coal to the United Kingdom in the years ahead. The price would of course be negotiated. (How many points worth do you need? I get one point for each coal I dont use, though I could probably discount it to 50% off for a friend--just be glad Teddy is an Anglophile!)

The United States is thanked for its generous aid money, and also for allowing Argentine observers to join US Marines in putting down the rebellion in Cuba. Buenos Aires hopes that friendly relations will continue between our two nations.

Buenos Aires also inquires as to the possibility of Argentina importing American coal in the future.

Argentina is assured that the United States is eager to continue its cooperation with its southern friends. American coal supplies will also be made avaliable to Buenos Aires.

Britain is in need of 6 coal points at the moment. Strangely enough, the 1/4th of the world I own has something like 3% of the world's coal! If America is willing and able to slim off 50% of the price of coal, Great Britain would be very gracious indeed!

OOC: you need the coal in 1906? It shouldnt be much of a problem, but it means I get to tweak my build one more time--less upgrading of militia in 1906 and such not.

Roosevelt will meet with Sun Yat Sen.

OOC: Suppose I can add that to my US tour list then. This occurs between his trip to San Francisco and his visit to New York City.

IC:

Sun Yat Sen recieved the message as he traveled from San Francisco...he rolled his eyes and said simply to himself, "Ach....couldn't Song have told President Roosevelt he was personally appointed by me to see him? I suppose he prefers a face to face meeting."

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He then took a detour to Washington; taking a day or two out of his busy schedule, he entered the White House and after informing his secretay, etc., he entered the room and said, "Good day, Mr. President. I am Sun Yat Sen, head of the United League, an organization dedicated to progressive reform. I would like to speak to you about the matter of China, if possible."

"It's a pleasure to meet you sir," Roosevelt said as he greeted his guest. "China is a crucial part of the Asian equation, and as such, its interests deeply affect both the United States and the world community. What sort of matters did you have to discuss?"

"It's a pleasure to meet you sir," Roosevelt said as he greeted his guest. "China is a crucial part of the Asian equation, and as such, its interests deeply affect both the United States and the world community. What sort of matters did you have to discuss?"

Sun then replies in perfect English, picked up during his stay in Hawaii; "Mr. Roosevelt, you and I know well America is a free, modern democracy with a strong economy, and as a result she is now the emerging power that the world has come to known after the war with Spain. In contrast, China, as you know, is ruled by the Qing Dynasty, and as many have witnessed, they are none of the above qualities.

To begin, they have also neglected the nation's welfare. For example, the Dowager Empress Cixi, for example, spent monies meant for modernization on lavish parties and a marble boat in an artificial lake--for the reason only that she was afraid to attract unwanted foreign intervention. Excessive, don't you think? They have also allowed famine to occur in Northern China before, forcing millions to starve.

They also have proven dictatorial in their control of the populace; the emperor has arbitrary powers, and the Qing often use torture to extrace confessions from those who are considered criminals. And while foreign investment is good for economic reasons, China's economy is also dominated and even laid low by European elements, and thus cannot become competitive and sustain its role in the Open Door policy unless it can reform itself.

Can they be trusted to lead them into the modern age? I think not."

Sun then said, "Now, what was the point of that speech? The answer is that my organization, the United League, is committed to reform and to establishing American-style democracy in China to end this corruption and allow for fair, just rule of the Chinese people.

On the surface, this may seem distruptive, but in reality, we merely are carrying out goals similar to the Progressive movements in America. But in our case, to do so, requires a change in government, from one that is hopelessly rotten to one that can take care of its people."

Roosevelt hesitated for just a moment--more than usual though for someone with his reputation, before responding.

"The United States would be delighted to see a government in China that could protect its citizens. The development of democracy in your county would be a great achievement, and I am glad our proud nation can serve as an example."

The President shrugged slightly as he continued.

"I am sure you are aware that there are many in the United States who are not delighted with the idea of dealing with the Chinese. That your United League would represent an improvement in the world is irrelevant to them. And I expect you also appreciate the limits to a democracy's freedom of action when it must answer to the people.

"Washington will be able to offer little official support for your struggle. I can only offer the promise that should your movement prove successful, China will have the backing of the United States as it joins the modern world community."

"Washington will be able to offer little official support for your struggle. I can only offer the promise that should your movement prove successful, China will have the backing of the United States as it joins the modern world community."

Sun Yat Sen then nodded; he understood what exactly Teddy Roosevelt was talking about. His travels had not only showed the good side of America, but the side that didn't like the Chinese....

He nodded and understood, saying, "I understand, Mr. Roosevelt. I can only hope your government may someday be able to provide formal aid. Especially since one of those foreign elements I speak of is the French, after all."

A fierce grin lit the President's face at this last remark.

"I see your point sir, indeed I do. So many people fail to appreciate your race because they dont take the time to listen and hear things like that. Bully I say!"

Roosevelt caught himself, and with an effort, continued in a more restrained tone.

"You have caught some of the verbal jousting between Washington and Paris in your travels I can only assume? Perhaps French influence in China will be halted--perhaps not. I do suppose time will tell. And though I can not speak for Congress the way I sometimes wish I could, I can say with the utmost confidence that I would like to see France taken down a peg. It can be strange at times what common interests may allow nations to work together..."

"You have caught some of the verbal jousting between Washington and Paris in your travels I can only assume? Perhaps French influence in China will be halted--perhaps not. I do suppose time will tell. And though I can not speak for Congress the way I sometimes wish I could, I can say with the utmost confidence that I would like to see France taken down a peg. It can be strange at times what common interests may allow nations to work together..."

Sun nodded and said, smiling slightly: "Indeed. Literate men like ourselves cannot ignore what the news puts out nowadays. The wires in Tokyo and later in America said it all; they mentioned the treaties over there and the war that ended up in the Europeans' favor, plus the brouhaha you had with the French. I must say, it all seemed...excessive on their part. But then again, I'm sadly used to that sort of domaneering and oppressive behavior back home."

"I can only hope that one day soon you will be able to fully appreciate the joys of a free press in your country," Roosevelt replied with a smirk before continuing. "The United States is in no way innocent of such 'domineering' as you put it, but a full confession of the crimes of every state would keep us here until the end of time."

The President stood. "I am afraid though that my time here is short. I have a meeting scheduled with a minister from Panama in a few minutes, that I am afraid is quite important."

"It has been a pleasure sir," he concluded, offering his hand to shake. "And perhaps we will have a chance to meet again. I do hope that the United States will be working with the United League in China someday soon."

The new Brazilian war minister, Rodrigues da Fonseca, visits the United States on business matters. In accordance with his plans to re-organize the Brazilian Army, he orders a large number of weapons from Springfield for the Brazilian Army. He then travels to Washington and tries to persuade the American Military to allow him to hire American officers to train Brazilian officers.

In game effect: 2 points for making the Brazilian Army Tech Level 5.

Washington will approve the weapons sale. Army Officers will travel to Brazil on the basis of avaliablity though officials from that country are welcome to tour US bases in the same way that Argentina did recently to pick up the slack should a crisis require the US recall its people.

In game effect (assuming mods are ok with it)--1 point to public sector and 1 point for travel costs, etc of training.

Denmark approaches the US and offers the following deal

In exchange for building a construction center in Copenhagen (over the course of 3 years), Denmark will sell the Americans the Danish Virgin Islands and provide space at Reykevik Iceland for construction of an American naval base (and allow a stationing of a brigade of troops to defend it).

The Navy Department urges the President to jump on this offer, and even willing to postpone a ship or 2 to get it.

Denmark approaches the US and offers the following deal

In exchange for building a construction center in Copenhagen (over the course of 3 years), Denmark will sell the Americans the Danish Virgin Islands and provide space at Reykevik Iceland for construction of an American naval base (and allow a stationing of a brigade of troops to defend it).

The Navy Department urges the President to jump on this offer, and even willing to postpone a ship or 2 to get it.

OOC: when was this offer made and does a construction center refer to a production center?

IC: The United States happily agrees to the Danish offer.

"I can only hope that one day soon you will be able to fully appreciate the joys of a free press in your country," Roosevelt replied with a smirk before continuing. "The United States is in no way innocent of such 'domineering' as you put it, but a full confession of the crimes of every state would keep us here until the end of time."

The President stood. "I am afraid though that my time here is short. I have a meeting scheduled with a minister from Panama in a few minutes, that I am afraid is quite important."

"It has been a pleasure sir," he concluded, offering his hand to shake. "And perhaps we will have a chance to meet again. I do hope that the United States will be working with the United League in China someday soon."

Sun then replied, "I also feel it has been a pleasure too. And I too, hope to meet again when the time comes."

He then shakes TR's hand firmly, and with good cheer, before leaving with a bow.

OOC: when was this offer made and does a construction center refer to a production center?

IC: The United States happily agrees to the Danish offer.

ooc
umm, yes, a production center..lol... offer made in late December 1906

IC
Peru formerly requests US economic and military assistance (Peru wants a production center and to build 2 fortress divisions and a river gunboat flotilla to guard its borders with Chile and Brazil, plus additional aid to convert its garrison unit into a light infantry division)

ooc
umm, yes, a production center..lol... offer made in late December 1906

IC
Peru formerly requests US economic and military assistance (Peru wants a production center and to build 2 fortress divisions and a river gunboat flotilla to guard its borders with Chile and Brazil, plus additional aid to convert its garrison unit into a light infantry division)

Congress is informed of the Peruvian request and begins writing up the bills for a second wave of foreign aid in 1907 that will include Argentina, Peru, and Denmark. (anybody else lining up for a hand-out this year GB? :p )

Congress is informed of the Peruvian request and begins writing up the bills for a second wave of foreign aid in 1907 that will include Argentina, Peru, and Denmark. (anybody else lining up for a hand-out this year GB? :p )

OOC: Sweet. Check your TGs, my rich northern friend.

OOC: Sweet. Check your TGs, my rich northern friend.

ooc: replied. I just happen to glance at nationstates a minute after you sent it.

Congress is informed of the Peruvian request and begins writing up the bills for a second wave of foreign aid in 1907 that will include Argentina, Peru, and Denmark. (anybody else lining up for a hand-out this year GB? :p )

OOC: what about Japan? Only 57 points in 1906...

OOC: what about Japan? Only 57 points in 1906...

ooc: I didnt hear Japan ask for help. I would point out though that none of these other nations getting assistance are rapidly expanding rivals with multiple dreadnaughts under construction... ;)

Aid to Japan with a racist Congress is likely going to be limited to access to coal and oil supplies. The only reason siam realistically got aid last year was to stick it to the French. And as entertaining as that rivalry is, in a few years it could easily blow over.

ooc: I didnt hear Japan ask for help. I would point out though that none of these other nations getting assistance are rapidly expanding rivals with multiple dreadnaughts under construction... ;)

Aid to Japan with a racist Congress is likely going to be limited to access to coal and oil supplies. The only reason siam realistically got aid last year was to stick it to the French. And as entertaining as that rivalry is, in a few years it could easily blow over.

actually, I was just kidding there. But we both know you can build 4 dreadnoughts for everyone I build

actually, I was just kidding there. But we both know you can build 4 dreadnoughts for everyone I build

lol just making sure. It seemed like everybody in the world was lining up for gifts all at once. You should be excited about so many people wanting help--it means I'll only be able to build 3 dreadnaughts to your 1 for a while!

lol just making sure. It seemed like everybody in the world was lining up for gifts all at once. You should be excited about so many people wanting help--it means I'll only be able to build 3 dreadnaughts to your 1 for a while!

who! stil strong. Although some of my naval generals wanted a 6:10 ratio at the Washington naval conference because there wouldn't be a 2:1 ratio for americans which they believed necessary to win

The Japanese proposed Non-Aggression Pact:

1. Japan and the United States of America swear not to go to war with each other

2. Japan and the United States of America swear not to antagonise each other in any way that would lead to war

3. Japan and the United States of America swear to step out of conflicts that would bring each other into conflict through entangling alliances

Siam requests that America build one PT boat flotilla for Siam's navy in 1907.

Treaty of Mutual Defense and Friendship between the United States of America and the Republic of Argentina

Recognizing that it is the long term interests of both nations that the Northern and Southern Hemispheres of America should work in concert to further peace and development in their continents,

Affirming that both nations have varying strategic and economic interests can be greatly furthered by friendly understanding,

Resolved that the United States and Argentine Republic promise to assist one another in all situations under the following criteria:

Article I
The Republic of Argentina recognizes the Monroe Doctrine as legitimate, and will act within these bounds to assist the United States in ensuring that the Doctrine is upheld.

The United States recognizes that the Argentine government has an obligation to provide for the security of its people, and will not prevent financial loans from foreign powers or the sale of weapons or military technology to Argentina from any state not currently at war with the United States.

Article II
The United States and the Argentine Republic pledge to assist one another in any military conflict if so requested, but both reserve to right to deny assistance to the other in the event that the signatory in question instigated unprovoked hostilities without a justifiable casus belli.

Article III
Either signatory may propose additional articles, which shall take effect upon agreement by both signatories.

Be it known that upon ratification of this treaty by both parties, both nations shall consider it just and binding law.

Treaty of Mutual Defense and Friendship between the United States of America and the Republic of Argentina

Recognizing that it is the long term interests of both nations that the Northern and Southern Hemispheres of America should work in concert to further peace and development in their continents,

Affirming that both nations have varying strategic and economic interests can be greatly furthered by friendly understanding,

Resolved that the United States and Argentine Republic promise to assist one another in all situations under the following criteria:

Article I
The Republic of Argentina recognizes the Monroe Doctrine as legitimate, and will act within these bounds to assist the United States in ensuring that the Doctrine is upheld.

The United States recognizes that the Argentine government has an obligation to provide for the security of its people, and will not prevent financial loans from foreign powers or the sale of weapons or military technology to Argentina from any state not currently at war with the United States.

Article II
The United States and the Argentine Republic pledge to assist one another in any military conflict if so requested, but both reserve to right to deny assistance to the other in the event that the signatory in question instigated unprovoked hostilities without a justifiable casus belli.

Article III
Either signatory may propose additional articles, which shall take effect upon agreement by both signatories.

Be it known that upon ratification of this treaty by both parties, both nations shall consider it just and binding law.

The Treaty easily passes through the Senate, where discussions on ways to solidify friendly relations with other nations in the Americas carry the day. It crosses Roosevelt's desk by early January where it is happily signed.

--The Siamese request will be considered by Congress. If there is room in the budget for 1907, the construction will likely be able to go forward.

--On a mostly unrelated note, US ambassadors return a revised agreement to Tokyo concerning agreements between the two governments. The points break down to the following.
1. Japan and the United States of America will avoid war with each other--informal non-aggression pact. When possible, the two nations should confer on any future expansion in the Pacific.

2. Japan and the United States of America will respect each other's current territorial possessions.

3. The violation of point 2 nullifies point 1.

It should be noted that the agreement with the Japanese is informal and kept not widely played up in the press--the more prominent agreement with Argentina at the same time drives this from the front page.

--The Siamese request will be considered by Congress. If there is room in the budget for 1907, the construction will likely be able to go forward.

The Siamese ambassadors quickly clarify that they do not wish for free ships, but only for permission to buy American-made boats. Therefore, there would be no strain on the American budget.

The Siamese ambassadors quickly clarify that they do not wish for free ships, but only for permission to buy American-made boats. Therefore, there would be no strain on the American budget.

Ah. Then in that case there will be no issue. American shipbuilders would be more than happy to produce PT boats for Siam. (my mistake--sorry!)

Industry: 40
Commerce: 10
Domestic Resources: 84
Foreign Resources (client states): 9
Unused Oil: 18.5
Unused Coal: 13.5
Domestic Food Sales: 24.4
Colonial Food Sales: 2.5
Modifiers: Damaged San Fran = -1.5 points
--200.4 Points to Spend--

Market Economy Government Cuts Mode = 5% growth
--10 Additional Production Centers in 1907--

Population Growth = about 2%
--2 million by 1907--

Domestic Expenditures:
Level 2 Social Safety Net for US--18 points
Level 2 Social Safety Net for Cuba--0.25 points
Repair Production Center in San Francisco--12 points
15 Merchant Marine Units--45 points
Transportation Infastructure (year 1 of 3)--2 points
Establish Intelligence Agency--10 points
Total--87.25 points

Maintenence Costs:
US Navy=24.4 points
US Army=3.45
US Army Reserve=4.5
US Marine Corps=0.2 points
Total Maintenence--32.55

Military Expenditures:
2 New Dreadnaughts (year 1 of 3)--8 points
Continue Construction on 2 Dreadnaughts (year 2 of 3 and 3 of 3)--8 points
2 Destroyer Flotillas (tech 5)--12 points
Research Marine Doctrine--6 points
Research Battle Cruisers--6 points
2 Light Infantry Brigades (USMC)--2 points
Upgrade 7 Reserve Militia Corps to Reserve Infantry Corps--7 points
2 Motor Torpedo Boat Flotillas--2 points
1 HQ Unit--6 points
Total: 55 points

Foreign Expenditures:
Panama Canal Construction--2 points
Aid to Argentina--12 points
Aid to Chile--9 points
Aid to Siam--6 points
Total: 29 points

Totals: 87.25 + 32.55 + 55 + 29 = 199.8
0.6 points remain--used during year to promote Cuban tranquility and propaganda wars with France.

--The Siamese request will be considered by Congress. If there is room in the budget for 1907, the construction will likely be able to go forward.

--On a mostly unrelated note, US ambassadors return a revised agreement to Tokyo concerning agreements between the two governments. The points break down to the following.
1. Japan and the United States of America will avoid war with each other--informal non-aggression pact. When possible, the two nations should confer on any future expansion in the Pacific.

2. Japan and the United States of America will respect each other's current territorial possessions.

3. The violation of point 2 nullifies point 1.

It should be noted that the agreement with the Japanese is informal and kept not widely played up in the press--the more prominent agreement with Argentina at the same time drives this from the front page.

Japan also quietly agrees

Domestic Politics in the United States at the beginning of 1907:

--Talk begins to rumble in Congress of the possiblity of annexing Cuba again. The conversations gain no real traction but refuse to die out as news of Marine combat patrols throughout the country filter back home. The reaction is mostly frustration about the US being brought back to a nation that so recently had seemed it was headed for quite success.

--President Roosevelt's State of the Union address talks about the security that the United States must bring to North and South America as it takes its rightful place in the world as a Great Power. In additions, allusions to the necessity of a "consistency of spirit and purpose...in national direction" once again bring to the attention of some that the still popular Teddy has still made no promises concerning running for an unprecedented third term. Reports that the President is having the time of his life in the White House feed the rumors.

--The United States begins discussions with other Latin American nations concerning forming a Central American Court of Justice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_American_Court_of_Justice). (This would be as fully historical as possible in its setup)

OOC: ohhhh i get to be a bad guy.....

IC: News of the coup in Haiti takes Washington by surprise, though the Roosevelt Administration is quick to take action. The USMC presently consists of 4 light infantry brigades, two of which have been activated for only a year. One veteran brigade is mostly tied down in Cuba.

The President goes before Congress, stressing the need to keep the Caribbean stable in such a dangerous time for the world. The disorder in Cuba, followed by actions of "this self-righteous mob" in Haiti are beginning to show a general trend which could end with the United States losing any say in events that happen just dozens of miles from its coast line. The speech is greated by thunderous applause by hardline Republicans and not a few Democrats whose states have interests in the Caribbean.

Roosevelt issues a demand to Bobo and his followers to step down and allow the return to power of the rightful President Alexis. USS Brooklyn is ordered to remain in Port-au-Prince on sentry duty. The protected cruisers USS Olympia and USS Albany are dispatched to the area as well. Haiti is warned that the failure to achieve restoration of order will result in direct American intervention.

Observant citizens in Cuba notice that elements of the veteran 1st Marine Brigade are being replaced with two regiments from the newly formed 3rd Brigade. That country is assured that the United States will withdraw as soon as order is assured as construction of infastructure continues. Both the 1st and 4th Marine Brigades are called up and begin assembling in South Florida.

Telegrams flash back and forth between the State Department and DoD in Washington as the situation in Haiti begins to draw more and more attention.

The French Ambassador is coolly informed that any European meddling in the affairs of the Americas would not only be a violation of the nation in question's soveriegnty, but a direct violation of the Monroe Doctrine.

The United States declares a blockade of Haiti, deploying to the area (in addition to vessels already there) its newest destroyer flotilla, the cruisers USS North Carolina and USS Tennessee and battleship USS Alabama to command.

The remainder of the Atlantic Fleet is suddenly ordered on a "shakedown cruise" and begins patrolling the Atlantic Seaboard (with full ammo and fuel loads).

US Marines (2 Light Infantry Brigades) are sent ashore at Port-au-Prince ASAP (late march or early April) under orders to capture Bobo, establish control of the capital, and then slowly move into the countryside.

Timeline--Haitian Incident
March 12 -- Coup occurs, President Alexis flees
March 13 -- US condemns the coup, evacuates its embassy and any Europeans and Latin Americans requesting evacuation. US and France exchange sharp words.
March 14 - 17 -- Sharp words between France and US continue. New President Bobo signs a treaty with France granting it a 200 year lease for a naval base. This doesn't immediately become known. Meanwhile, the US Navy transfers USMC units from the West Coast to the East Coast and embarks 3 Marine brigades aboard transports, even as US Navy warships take up station around Haiti.
March 18 -- President Roosevelt declares Haiti under blockade, France declares that it has a treaty granting it a naval base with the new Haitian government and recognizes it.
March 19 -- Brazil sides with the US even as US Marines land at Port-a-Prince and cross the border from the Dominican Republic as well, and secure the city and border areas after brief fighting with ill trained Haitian army and paramilitary forces.
March 20 - April 30 US Marine Corps units secure the rest of Haiti facing light and ill coordinated resistance. President Bobo flees to French Embassy, while President Alexis returns to his office.

Washington issues a formal protest regarding the guarding of Bobo in the French Embassy, demanding that the revolutionary be handed over to the United States and Haiti to be tried for treason.

The larger ships guarding Haiti are withdrawn, leaving a dozen destroyers and their escorts to watch over the island. The Atlantic Fleet however continues its patrol in a show of American power. (ooc: justification--this is the same year historically the great white fleet was launched. American naval bravado makes a great deal of sense, perhaps even more so under these circumstances than in real life). Roosevelt makes a series of stump speeches concerning the tyranny of certain nations in old Europe and the wisdom of Monroe and his doctrine keeping their evil away from American shores. The bravery of the Marines called into action for the 2nd time in 6 months is especially lauded.

Also, the US declares that the treaty signed by Bobo and the French is illegitimate as it was not signed by the formal government of Haiti. In no uncertain terms it is made clear that France will not have a naval base anywhere in the country.

In related news, Argentina and Brazil are warmly thanked for their support during this time. President Alcorta in particular is applauded, though his offer of mediation is politely declined. The United States unfortunately can not deal with puppets and puppeteers as equals at the table of legitimate diplomacy the rest of the world so happily shares.

OOC: A little tired of posting all the event down south twice. For posterity. If you want the story of the Banana Wars, go here.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499447

OOC: just to get them all in one place--extra things to do in '07

--Peru formerly requests US economic and military assistance (Peru wants a production center and to build 2 fortress divisions and a river gunboat flotilla to guard its borders with Chile and Brazil, plus additional aid to convert its garrison unit into a light infantry division).

--In exchange for building a construction center in Copenhagen (over the course of 3 years), Denmark will sell the Americans the Danish Virgin Islands and provide space at Reykevik Iceland for construction of an American naval base (and allow a stationing of a brigade of troops to defend it).

--Argentina: 4 light cruisers and 12 points of aid

--Level 2 Social services and year one of infastructure improvements for Haiti and Cuba

--1 garrison each for Cuba and Haiti

--Intel Budget for extra missions (HHA)

Industry: 60
Commerce: 25
Domestic Resources: 78
Foreign Resources (client states): 9
Unused Oil: 17
Unused Coal: 13 (4 coal to Britain gives 3 points so 16)
Domestic Food Sales: 24
Colonial Food Sales: 2.5
--231.5 Points to Spend--

Market Economy Government Cuts Mode = 5% growth
--11.5 Additional Production Centers in 1907--

Population Growth = about 2%
--2 million by 1908--

Domestic Expenditures:
Level 2 Social Safety Net for US--18 points
Level 2 Social Safety Net for Cuba--0.25 points
Level 1 Social Safety Net for Haiti--0.25 points
Level 1 Social Safety Net for Philippines--0.75 points
15 Merchant Marine Units--45 points
Transportation Infastructure (year 2 of 3)--2 points
Transporation Infastructure for Cuba and Haiti (year 1 of 3)--1 point
Upkeep Intelligence Agency--5 points
Other Intel Missions--3.5 points
Total--75.75 points

Maintenence Costs:
US Navy=25.35 points
US Army=4.45
US Army Reserve=7.3
US Marine Corps=0.4 points
Total Maintenence--37.5

Military Expenditures:
2 New Dreadnaughts (year 1 of 3)--8 points
Continue Construction on 2 Dreadnaughts (2 on year 2 of 3 and 3 of 3)--12 points
2 Destroyer Flotillas (tech 5)--12 points
4 Battlecruisers--16 points (year 1 of 3)
1 Marine Brigade (USMC)--2 points
Upgrade 4 Light Infantry Brigades to Marine Brigades--4 points
Upgrade 3 Reserve Militia Corps to Reserve Infantry Corps--3 points
2 Escort Flotillas--8 points
1 Submarine Flotilla--6 points
2 Coast Defense Fortresses--6 points
1 Reserve Infantry Corp--2 points
Total: 73 points

Foreign Expenditures:
Panama Canal Construction--2 points
Aid to Argentina--12 points; 4 Light Cruisers (4 points--year 1 of 2)
Aid to Peru--12 points for production center (year 1 of 2); River gunboat flotilla--1 point; 2 Fortress divisions--4 points
Aid to Denmark--8 points for production center (year 1 of 3)
Aid to Haiti and Cuba--2 Garrison Units (one each)--4 points
Total: 45 points

Totals: 75.75 + 37.5 + 73 + 45 = 231.25
0.25 points remain--used during year to promote tranquility in Haiti and suppression of Propaganda from Bobo.

confidential report from State Department and Navy Department indicates that the governmental and civil and economic structure of Haiti is so deeply flawed that only direct US administration and massive (ooc build a production center) economic assistance plus social and infrastructure spending will be needed to make the country stable.

The report indicates the same situation exists in the Dominican Republic. Cuba however is less endemically corrupt, but will still need massive economic assistance (ooc yep, another production center) to prevent the situation in the Dominican Republic from being repeated in Cuba.

Report indicates the situation in most of the Central American nations is no different from that of Cuba.

(Peru wants a production center and to build 2 fortress divisions and a river gunboat flotilla to guard its borders with Chile and Brazil, plus additional aid to convert its garrison unit into a light infantry division).

--Argentina: 4 light cruisers and 12 points of aid

OOC:
The Peruvian-Brazilian Border is rainforest. Plus, I'm the one with valuable rubber deposits sitting unguarded across the border.

And why are you building war ships for Argentina? They already have the biggest navy in South America!

You're messing up the balance of power. I want a peaceful South America and you're giving the hispanics free war machines!

Alright, I'm done whining...

OOC:
The Peruvian-Brazilian Border is rainforest. Plus, I'm the one with valuable rubber deposits sitting unguarded across the border.

And why are you building war ships for Argentina? They already have the biggest navy in South America!

You're messing up the balance of power. I want a peaceful South America and you're giving the hispanics free war machines!

Alright, I'm done whining...

i tend not to disagree when GB tells me something. As for aid, if Brazil would like a piece of the pie, please make a formal request like Malkyer did. It will likely be warmly received, especially after Brazil so happily aligned itself with Washington over the recent issue of Haiti.

That navy is not supposed to be used on you anyway so I wouldnt worry about it. If anything I am trying to restore the power balance after Britain/Canada gave Chile a ridiculous sum in 1906.

The sounds of war make themselves known in Europe. Eastern Europe it seems has exploded and threatens to draw us into general war. Thankfully France has kept itself neutral so far. Of course this could mean Russia splits and destabilises the balance of power.

It's a sad state of affairs. Either way, the purpose to this, is for a request for trade in the future.

OOC:
The Peruvian-Brazilian Border is rainforest. Plus, I'm the one with valuable rubber deposits sitting unguarded across the border.

And why are you building war ships for Argentina? They already have the biggest navy in South America!

You're messing up the balance of power. I want a peaceful South America and you're giving the hispanics free war machines!

Alright, I'm done whining...

ooc
the Amazon River is navigatable to ocean going ships very nearly all the way to the Peruvian border, and with river boats all the way to the Andes Mountains. Which is why Peru wants a fortress division and river gunboat flotilla to defend its border. Its other unit is to keep an eye on the Chileans.

The sounds of war make themselves known in Europe. Eastern Europe it seems has exploded and threatens to draw us into general war. Thankfully France has kept itself neutral so far. Of course this could mean Russia splits and destabilises the balance of power.

It's a sad state of affairs. Either way, the purpose to this, is for a request for trade in the future.

The Spanish request is politely noted and catalogued away under "things that are not the most important right now." Madrid is assured that once this nasty business in Europe resolves itself, as it happily looks to potentially be, that the United States will be able to more firmly answer on issues of trade.

In related news the Pacific Trade Deal treaty is brought before the Senate and surprisingly stalls before it can be brought to a serious vote. Debate on the subject seems to take the line that the United States is too involved in keeping neighbors pacified to seriously consider such a wide-ranging deal to the four corners of the globe. Roosevelt, knowing a battle not worth fighting when he sees one, decides to save his political capital for an announcement he is planning in the next few months. Australia is assured that Washington does indeed desire closer ties, but that perhaps there are other, less far reaching schemes that could be considered.

Spain thanks the US for it's thoughts, and simply stated as a wish for the future. We hope the US will help in the peace, because cooler heads are needed.

The Kingdom of Norway, owing to the fact that its fiscal year is fast approaching, asks the American government (perhaps a source not first considered) for the same loan that was asked from the British and now Canadians: a sum in 1908, halved in 1909, to be repaid with interest added within the next decade and one half. Norway's representative stresses the close ties Norwegians have with many states, the Midwest especially, and in private point out that America giving a loan means Canada and Britain don't and cannot collect on either interest or what is assured to be future Norwegian business in the area of loans and money.

The Kingdom of Norway, owing to the fact that its fiscal year is fast approaching, asks the American government (perhaps a source not first considered) for the same loan that was asked from the British and now Canadians: a sum in 1908, halved in 1909, to be repaid with interest added within the next decade and one half. Norway's representative stresses the close ties Norwegians have with many states, the Midwest especially, and in private point out that America giving a loan means Canada and Britain don't and cannot collect on either interest or what is assured to be future Norwegian business in the area of loans and money.

Washington, perhaps relieved that a nation receiving money from it is offering to have the investment returned, happily will supply funds in 1908 and 1909. (OOC: for records--6 points, then 3)

United States of America: 1908

Tech Level: 5

Population: 94 million

Production centers: 41
--New York City 5; Boston 2; Philadelphia 3; Chicago 3; Pittsburgh 3; Detroit 3; Kansas City 1; Houston 1; New Orleans 1; Milwaukee 2; Cleveland 1; Cincinnati 2; Denver 2; San Francisco 2; Los Angeles 2; Memphis 1; Seattle 2; Dallas 1; St. Louis 2; St Paul 1; Sacramento 1

Resources: 76
--St. Louis 4; Sacramento 11; Seattle 10; Anchorage 6; Dallas 11; Memphis 11; Denver 5; St Paul 5; Minneapolis 6; Honolulu 6

Oil: 20
--Houston 5; Shreveport 2; Philadelphia 1; Bakersfield 2; Helena 1; Los Angeles 2; New Orleans 2; Odessa / Midland 2; Oklahoma City 2; Dallas 1

Coal: 16
--West Virginia 6; Pittsburgh 6; Montana 3; Wyoming 3

Food Production: 212

Commerce: 40 shipping units (doesn’t include US coastal and inland waterway shipping)

Colonial Empire:
Panama: Resources 6, food production 1, population .4 million,
Puerto Rico: (included in US totals)
Philippines: Resources 6 (Mindanao) food production 16, population 7.7 million
US Oceania food production sufficient to feed its population of under 20,000

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1908 Build:

Industry: 82
Commerce: 40
Domestic Resources: 78
Foreign Resources (client states): 9
Unused Oil: 16
Unused Coal: 12 (4 coal to Britain gives 3 points so 15)
Domestic Food Sales: 23.6
Colonial Food Sales: 2.4
--263 Points to Spend--

Market Economy Government Cuts Mode = 5% growth
--13.65 Additional Production Centers in 1907--

Population Growth = about 2%
--2 million by 1909--

Domestic Expenditures:
Level 2 Social Safety Net for US--18.8 points
Level 2 Social Safety Net for Cuba--0.25 points
Level 1 Social Safety Net for Haiti--0.25 points
Level 1 Social Safety Net for Philippines--0.75 points
5 Merchant Marine Units--15 points
Transportation Infastructure (year 3 of 3)--2 points
Transporation Infastructure for Cuba and Haiti (year 2 of 3)--2 points
Upkeep Intelligence Agency--5 points
Other Intel Missions--3.5 points
Total--47.55 points

Maintenence Costs:
US Navy=26.55 points
US Army=5.45
US Army Reserve=8
US Marine Corps=1.25 points
Total Maintenence--41.25

Military Expenditures:
4 New Dreadnaughts (year 1 of 3)--16 points
Continue Construction on 4 Dreadnaughts (2 on year 3 of 3 and 2 on year 2 of 3)--16 points
2 Destroyer Flotillas (tech 5)--12 points
4 New Battlecruisers--16 points (year 1 of 3)
4 Battlecruisers--16 points (year 2 of 3)
3 Light Cruisers--3 points (year 1 of 2)
1 Marine Brigade (USMC)--2 points
1 Reserve Infantry Corp--2 points
Naval Base at Reykevik--6 points
Naval Yard at Charleston--18 points (needs 6 to finish)
1 HQ Unit for Army Reserve--6 points
Total: 113 points

Foreign Expenditures:
Panama Canal Construction--2 points
Aid to Argentina--12 points; 4 Light Cruisers (4 points--year 2 of 2)
Aid to Peru--12 points for production center (year 2 of 2); Convert Garrison to Light Infantry--1 point
Aid to Denmark--8 points for production center (year 2 of 3)
Aid to Haiti and Cuba--Upkeep 2 Garrison Units (one each)-0.5 points
Aid to Haiti--15 points for production center (year 1 of 4)
Loan to Norway--6 points
Total: 60.5 points

Totals: 47.55 + 41.25 + 113 + 60.5 = 262.3
0.7 points remain in reserve

In December of 1907, Theodore Roosevelt formerly announces his intentions to run for President of the United States for an unprecedented third term. His reasoning, when confided to close friends, is that the United States needs strong leadership in the midst of such unstable political times. This logic rapidly is needed to come to the defense of his actions during the electoral season. The recent scare in Europe and the overstretching of the French into the Caribbean justify to many the logic of "not changing horses in midstream."

The reaction is of course mixed. Democrats, mostly appalled by the announcement, begin resorting to mud-flinging when it appears that the majority of the US has no serious issue with the ever popular Teddy running again for President. Calls that the President envisions himself as a King and the wisdom of Washington (and his TWO terms) are invoked.

Republicans mostly applaud the move, realizing that there is really nobody avaliable to the Democrats to trot out who will beat TR. Some applaud less loudly, especially the conservative wing of the party who are distressed by Roosevelt's steady slide toward Progressivism over the past few years. Still, he receives their backing as most reason that the Republican controlled Congress will be able to keep the executive in line...

More news as the campaign develops...

France requests that our two nations, along with Haiti, meet in diplomatic negotiations in order to relieve the tension both in the Caribbean and between our two countries. Prime Minister Jean Reynaud or Foreign Minister Robert would be willing to meet with President Roosevelt in Washington, though the invitation is extended that TR come to Paris.

France will represent the interests of the rebel Haitians.

On an unrelated note, France inquires as to whether it might purchase coal from the United States.

Although the United States appreciates the French gesture in keeping Mr. Bobo more quiet over the past few months, and is happy to meet with representatives of Paris in Washington, this is as far as the government is willing to go.

The US will keep a close eye on Haiti and even now work is being completed on industry and infastructure in that nation. The French have done quite enough in the Caribbean as of late--representing any Haitian interests will be most unnecessary. The Haitians need not be present for a discussion between how to defuse tensions between two great powers. We all know that both our respective sides lack perfect legitimacy anyway. To pretend otherwise would be to continue the facade that caused this crisis in the first place.

OOC: sorry Malkyer, just playing a part. The US still has some venom left over from French actions over the previous years.

Also:

News of emminent negotiations with the French concerning the Caribbean begins to bring the issue of Haiti back into the press after it was swept aside in the wake of the war scare in Europe. Needless to say, the anti-French rhetoric begins to pop up again, although the administration attempts to keep newspapers in Washington relatively civil through persuasion as the time for the French delegates to arrive approaches. No need to color what may already be a hostile discussion...

Japan asks whether the US would be willing to construct 2 Light Cruisers in 1909 for Japan. We would pay of course

OOC: sorry Malkyer, just playing a part. The US still has some venom left over from French actions over the previous years.

OOC: No worries; to be entirely honest I care more about getting coal at the moment than I do about the Haitians. Anywho, I'll go ahead and start if you don't mind.

IC:
Vespesian Robert, the Minister of Foreign Affairs in Reynaud's new government, arrives in Washington with a few aides in March of 1908. Arriving by train from New York late at night and departing his hotel early the next morning, Robert walks into the White House at about nine o'clock in the morning. After being shown in by guards and handing his hat and coat to a servant, he is taken into the Oval Office. Extending his hand to the American President, he introduces himself.

"Monsieur Président, I will not say that I am happy to meet with you under these circumstances, but I am honored. Prime Minister Reynaud sends his apologies that he is not able to meet with you personally, but as I am sure you are aware the political situation in France is not at its most stable at the moment, and Jean Charles felt it best that he remain in Paris.

"I would like to begin by making it clear that France understands completely the United State's refusal to allow Haitian interests in this meeting. I cannot honestly say that the French government approves of the United States' backing of the Alexis government; however, our own interference was less than legitimate and thus we feel it is better for both of our nations if we are able to move past this unpleasant business, no? Insofar as Franco-American relations are concerned, France has been America's ally and friend in the past. Perhaps there is hope for the future, mon Président?

"But I digress from my primary mission here. In addition to sullying the good name of France and alienating potential allies, the previous government (ooc: the Radical Socialists, the last strong government before all the political chaos) squandered France's coal reserves. It is well known that the United States has a surplus of coal, and I have been instructed to ask if France may purchase coal (ooc: 6 or 7 points) from America.

"Is there anything else you would like to discuss, monsieur Président?"

Robert's hand received a strong pump from Roosevelt as the two men found chairs in the Oval Office. When the Frenchman was done speaking, the President took a moment before clearing his throat and beginning.

"I expect that the United States will be able to supply some coal to France in the near future as our markets are always looking for more buyers. I must confess though that before we move to talks of economics, I must receive a few guarantees.

It has been some years since our nations have been on more than civil terms sir, and in the past months things were not even that well. As I am sure our diplomats have made clear, the United States appreciates that Mr. Bobo has of late become rather more subdued in his rhetoric. This is a good start, but there are some other matters. Most importantly, the matter of that 'treaty' that supposedly gives Paris basing rights in Haiti? I can assure you that should these talks go well France will be able to use US ports in the area. That document must be revoked.

If we can move past this point, we should be able to engage in all sorts of pleasantries here."

Japan asks whether the US would be willing to construct 2 Light Cruisers in 1909 for Japan. We would pay of course

That will likely depend on the state of Japanese-American relations at that time. Washington can make no promises at this point (mostly because Roosevelt cant afford alienating racists during this campaign) but a more solid answer should be forth coming by closer to the end of the year.

Minister Robert informs Roosevelt that France has no intention of building a naval base in Haiti, and that both Robert and the Prime Minister are of the opinion that the treaty should be torn up and forgotten. However, Robert is not willing to promise that the treaty will be voided (cited continued Radical influence in the government), though he does assure Roosevelt that no French naval forces will enter the Caribbean.

This does not please the President, as he points out that he can not therefore promise that US and French relations will be able to improve much. The gesture of keeping French naval forces away is helpful, but the treaty must be dissolved at the soonest possible time. Roosevelt does point out he is well aware of the restrictions of legislatures on actions, citing the recent failure of the Pacific Trade Pact to pass the Senate. But eventually something will need to be done about the French and Haiti.

Incidently, the French government had previously offered France's Caribbean possessions for sale. Though the offer is not likely still on the table, Washington is still interested. Such a move would also guarantee that France will have no need to move naval forces in the area at all, in effect nulifying the treaty anyway. It is pointed out that as part of such an agreement, the US would be happy to guarantee the use of the Panama Canal to France when it is completed in a few short years...

Minister Robert thinks on Roosevelt's suggestion for a moment, and nods slowly. France would be willing to sell (ooc: for 3 points) its holdings in the Caribbean, in exchange for guaranteed use of the Panama Canal. Robert informs Roosevelt that without any territorial possessions in the area, there will be no need to send the French Navy there, and it will be easier to declare the Haitian treaty void. Robert clarifies his earlier statement by saying that with a pro-American government restored to Haiti and a new government in place in France, it should not be difficult to have the treaty revoked; Robert states that he is simply of the opinion that in diplomacy it is unwise to promise anything where legislatures are concerned. Robert also requests that France be allowed to construct two battle cruisers using US shipyards, as French shipyards are not technologically capable of building the advanced ships.

Robert's response is met with a toothy grin from Roosevelt as the whole business thus far is proclaimed "bully!" by the President. With that sticking point out of the way, the United States and France are genuinely along the path to reconciliation. (ooc: one point is fine for me--coming at you in 1909)

Now then, on to economics? The US currently has rather large coal reserves (10-12 pointsish) that France would be taking a rather large chunk out of. As a gesture of good will though, we would be willing to supply all your needs.

(OOC: anything else we need to discuss? I'll push you for buying french polynesia some other time :p )

Secret IC:

Argentina quietly makes a request to the United States in which it asks if the US would be willing to contribute aid and support in a proposed intel-finding mission within Bolivia, given the sketchy details of potential trouble within Bolivia. One goal is to determine the cause of the tension and troubles, plus discovering whomever's responible for the anti-Argentinian groups funding and support. Another goal is to help train Argentinan operatives in intel efforts.

We eagerly await your reply.

Secret IC:

The United States replies that it will be happy to assist its South American ally with intel work. The NSA assigns a portion of its funding for 1909 to the project and will report the results to Argentina.

[ooc: I added those edits, Cylea]

OOC: I confirm those edits are accurate. 3 points to France in 1909 to buy all French Caribbean possessions. Panama Canal use is guaranteed to France. France may use US shipyards to build 2 battlecruisers over the next few years. bobo shuts up for good too. If French parliament is nice they will realize a port in haiti is useless now and declare the treaty void, but this is not a requirement. it should probably just happen eventually.

OOC: I confirm those edits are accurate. 3 points to France in 1909 to buy all French Caribbean possessions. Panama Canal use is guaranteed to France. France may use US shipyards to build 2 battlecruisers over the next few years. bobo shuts up for good too. If French parliament is nice they will realize a port in haiti is useless now and declare the treaty void, but this is not a requirement. it should probably just happen eventually.

OOC: I just realized that we never worked out the coal issue. I can't pay for it at the moment, but I need to buy about 7 points, to be paid for as soon as possible (with interest).

A message from the King of Denmark informing the government of The United states of the current status of the joint US-Denmark production centre. An excerpt from the letter follows

"The people of Denmark wishes to thank the United States of America for their aide in the joint-construction project of a production centre in Copenhagen. With the combined resources (OOC: 16 points from you and a total of 8 from Me) the production of the facility will be finished at the end of 1908 to be functional some time just after 1st of January, 1909."

skipping a bit further down in the same letter...

"We are informing you of the near completion of this project and now no longer require any further aid to finish the project on it's own. Once again thank you for the aide.

<signature>
Frederick VIII, King of Denmark

<signature of a number of Danish ministers as well>"

OOC: I just realized that we never worked out the coal issue. I can't pay for it at the moment, but I need to buy about 7 points, to be paid for as soon as possible (with interest).

OOC: US coal producers are going to want their money. I can subsidize the cost for now but at more than 10% interest (pay back 7.75 points for every year you cant pay) to keep them happy so Teddy can win the vote in W. Virginia.

A message from the King of Denmark informing the government of The United states of the current status of the joint US-Denmark production centre. An excerpt from the letter follows

"The people of Denmark wishes to thank the United States of America for their aide in the joint-construction project of a production centre in Copenhagen. With the combined resources (OOC: 16 points from you and a total of 8 from Me) the production of the facility will be finished at the end of 1908 to be functional some time just after 1st of January, 1909."

skipping a bit further down in the same letter...

"We are informing you of the near completion of this project and now no longer require any further aid to finish the project on it's own. Once again thank you for the aide.

<signature>
Frederick VIII, King of Denmark

<signature of a number of Danish ministers as well>"

An official resolution from Congress is returned to Copenhagen, wishing the Danes good luck in the future and hoping for continued good relations between our two great nations.

The nascent Republic of China sends a telegram to the United States, asking for diplomatic recognition and any potential aid they can spare.

The nascent Republic of China sends a telegram to the United States, asking for diplomatic recognition and any potential aid they can spare.

The United States hesitates on recognizing the Republic of China, although the Roosevelt Administration is sympathetic to the cause. In the middle of an election cycle is no time for rash moves, but the return telegram includes a note from the President promising that should he win re-election there will likely be some aid forthcoming to the new Republic in Asia in 1909...

The Tsar sends the Whie House a polite telegram, expessing interest in seeing America, as he has never before been there. He seems enthusiastic about seeing the Great Plains and the Rockies and also iterates a wish to visit the Ford factory and the White House.

The US responds with an invitation for the Czar to come visit in December of 1908 for a few weeks. Washington DC is particularly beautiful at this time of year and there are of course dozens of other things to see across the nation.

Besides, most of the country is quite temperate at this time of year compared to St. Petersburg! The United States would be happy to provide the chance for the royal family to warm up a bit...

As Teddy Roosevelt and William Jennings Bryan duke it out for the presidency, astute political observers notice the similarities the two men have in common over domestic policy. Both are quite progressive in reform policy, especially as Roosevelt drifts more away from Republican hardliners toward what will eventually be called a New Nationalism.

However, the debate quickly degenerates into a referendum on Roosevelt's decision to run for an unprecedented third term. The biggest difference between the two candidates--foriegn policy and US imperialism--also comes to the fore.

Unfortunately for Bryan and the Democrats, not only is Roosevelt still impossible popular from a successful resolution of the Haiti crisis with France, but there is a booming economy, a brand new national infastructure, and the Administration keeping the Americas stable (through an interventionist policy the Republicans point out), especially when compared to the crisis in Europe. The election becomes surprisingly lopsided.

Teddy Roosevelt is elected to a third term (and second in his own right) by an electoral count of 343 to 139. The vice-president remains Charles Fairbanks. The Republican win 55% of the popular vote and more importantly increase their majority slightly in Congress. TR accepts the victory graciously and then returns to the business of governing what he plans to make the greatest nation on Earth.

In other news, in December Marines begin pulling out of Cuba and the detachment in Haiti is reduced by 50%. However, plans for the navy expansion are shifted into overdrive, with a staggering number of capital ships being scheduled to be laid down in 1909. Roosevelt points out to critics (many of them quite strongly against the move) that the United States in fact has two oceans to worry about, and that the nations on both sides are not exactly the pictures of stability (pointing to the Balkans and China in particular). The American people as a whole, happily riding along in the good times, can only nod in approval.

OOC: US coal producers are going to want their money. I can subsidize the cost for now but at more than 10% interest (pay back 7.75 points for every year you cant pay) to keep them happy so Teddy can win the vote in W. Virginia.

Due to some hasty reworking of the proposed 1909 budget, France is able to provide the United States upfront with the money to buy coal (ooc: 7 points), without forcing the American government to subsidize the cost.

Due to some hasty reworking of the proposed 1909 budget, France is able to provide the United States upfront with the money to buy coal (ooc: 7 points), without forcing the American government to subsidize the cost.

OOC: works for me, gives me more slack anyway!

The Brazilian Naval Minister approaches the American Government in November to discuss the future of naval balance in South America. Due to the growing gap between the Chilean/Argentine Navies and the Brazilian Navy and Brazil's lack of modern naval knowledge, the Naval Minister asks that the American Naval Yards construct 3 war ships for Brazil. The USB is willing to pay full price and, due to relaxed tensions between Argentina and Brazil, is in no hurry.

OOC: I need a Dreadnought or Battle Cruiser (I know you probably don't want us latinos having dreadnoughts) and two Light Cruisers. That will still put me about 10 ships short of Argentina, but I don't plan see combat anytime soon.

The Brazilian Naval Minister approaches the American Government in November to discuss the future of naval balance in South America. Due to the growing gap between the Chilean/Argentine Navies and the Brazilian Navy and Brazil's lack of modern naval knowledge, the Naval Minister asks that the American Naval Yards construct 3 war ships for Brazil. The USB is willing to pay full price and, due to relaxed tensions between Argentina and Brazil, is in no hurry.

OOC: I need a Dreadnought or Battle Cruiser (I know you probably don't want us latinos having dreadnoughts) and two Light Cruisers. That will still put me about 10 ships short of Argentina, but I don't plan see combat anytime soon.

If Brazil would be willing to sign a treaty of friendship with the United States of the type that Argentina already has (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11670480&postcount=100), Washington would be most happy to help out its new friend. A battlecruiser and two Light Cruisers would be the least we could do.

The Roosevelt Administration eagerly awaits your reply...

1909 Builds:

Industry: 108
Commerce: 45
Domestic Resources: 67
Foreign Resources (client states): 9
Unused Oil: 15
Unused Coal: 8.5 (7 coal to France for 7 points--15.5)
Domestic Food Sales: 23.2
Colonial Food Sales: 1.7
--281.4 Points to Spend--

Market Economy Government Cuts Mode = 5% growth
--14.32 Additional Production Centers in 1907--

Population Growth = about 2%
--2 million by 1910--

Domestic Expenditures:
Level 2 Social Safety Net for US--19.2 points
Level 2 Social Safety Net for Cuba--0.25 points
Level 1 Social Safety Net for Haiti--0.25 points
Level 1 Social Safety Net for Philippines--0.75 points
3 Merchant Marine Units--9 points
Transporation Infastructure for Cuba and Haiti (year 3 of 3)--2 points
Upkeep Intelligence Agency--5 points
Other Intel Missions--4 points
Total--40.45 points

Maintenence Costs:
US Navy=28.05 points
US Army=5.45
US Army Reserve=9.25
US Marine Corps=1.5 points
Total Maintenence--44.25

Military Expenditures:
4 New Dreadnaughts (year 1 of 3)--16 points
Continue Construction on 6 Dreadnaughts (2 on year 3 of 3 and 4 on year 2 of 3)--24 points
10 New Battlecruisers (year 1 of 3)--40 points
8 Battlecruisers--32 points (4 at year 3 of 3 and 4 at year 2 of 3)
4 New Light Cruisers--4 points (year 1 of 2)
3 Light Cruisers--3 points (year 2 of 2)
5 Motor Torpedo Boat Flotillas--5 points (3 to replace tech 4.5 flotillas)
1 Escort Flotilla--4 points
Naval Yard at Charleston--6 points (24/24 points)
Research Long Range Submarines--12 points
Total: 146 points

Foreign Expenditures:
Panama Canal Construction--2 points
Aid to Argentina--15 points
Aid to Haiti and Cuba--Upkeep 2 Garrison Units (one each)-0.5 points
Aid to Haiti--15 points for production center (year 2 of 4)
Loan to Norway--3 points
Purchase of French Caribbean--3 points
Aid to Siam--8 points
Secret: Aid to KMT--4 points
Total: 50.5 points

Totals: 40.55 + 44.25 + 146 + 50.5 = 281.2
0.2 points left in reserve

If Brazil would be willing to sign a treaty of friendship with the United States of the type that Argentina already has, Washington would be most happy to help out its new friend. A battlecruiser and two Light Cruisers would be the least we could do.

The Roosevelt Administration eagerly awaits your reply...

Brazil would be more than happy to sign a formal treaty. With the USA and USB working together, the Western Hemisphere will never have to fear European imperialism.

Brazil would be more than happy to sign a formal treaty. With the USA and USB working together, the Western Hemisphere will never have to fear European imperialism.

US Budget in 1909 includes beginning of construction of 2 light cruisers for Brazil. Later years should be able to provide more aid in addition to this. Washington is most pleased to be working with its friends to the south.

Would like me to still give the first 4 points for the battlecruiser this year or wait until you begin construction?

If you have the 4 points lying around to get it started, feel free to use US shipyards to do it. I just cant help you out on it until 1910.

In early December of 1908, the nation is shocked to learn of an assassination attempt on President Roosevelt. The would-be killer is John Schrank, who brought a pistol to a crowd during a speech by TR in Milwaukee was foiled as his weapon jammed just as he shouted "death to third-termers!"

Schrank was quickly brought down by the crowd, disarmed and led away. Doctors eventually find him insane and he is committed to an asylum. The President continues his speech after the interruption to thunderous applause as the incident only solidifies his position in the public eye.

OOC: Based on an incident in 1912 when Roosevelt really ran for a third term. A die was rolled for Schrank's success and came up with the worst possible value. A little more information on this fellow could be found here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schrank).

The Argentinian government issues a statement.

"We are quite relieved and grateful to see that Theodore Roosevelt survived the assasination attempt. If there is anything Argentina can do, we would be more than happy to do so. We are honored to be friends with America and a great man such as Theodore Roosevelt."

Chaing Kai Shek sends a letter saying that he is relieved that such a man as Theodore Roosevelt did not succumb to the assassin's bullet. He wishes him luck, and hopes no further attempts occur.

A Letter from the President

Dear Mr. Roosevelt,

I am very glad to hear you survived the assistination attempt, as the United States nor the world, would be the same without you. It is concerning to see maniacs in this world that wish to kill good poeple.

But I have more then just that to discuss. Albania sees the United States as a very strong power in the world, and its power is ever increasing. We also are very pleased that you nation is a republic. The choice of the people is the only way.

Albania wishes to further establish relations with the United States, both economically and dimplomatically. We wish to establish an embassy in Washington, D.C. to allow for ever inreased dimplomatic relations. We would also be intersetted in discussing a possible alliance, or at the very least recieving the President on a dimplomatic visit to Albania to discuss our futrue relations.

We also wish to ask for your aide in our economic siutation. Currently our economy is very small, and we do not have the economic power for a production center. We would like to ask if there is any aide you could provide to help us towards our goal of growing stronger as a nation. I know this is alot to ask, but we feel we are growing as friends.

I wish you and your nation good luck into the future.

With the upmost sincerty,
Turkhan Pasha
President, The Republic of Albania

OOC: I really do wish to become friends with the states. This isnt just a ploy to get those points for a production center.

The White House sends heart-felt thank you letters to all Heads of State that expressed warm wishes for the President.

To the Albanians though, the following response is mailed:

To the President of the Republic of Albania,

I expect it has been a relatively stressful year for both of us. I must admint that I would gladly suffer an assassination attempt daily if it would allow the United States to escape the tribulations that Albania has recently faced. Our nation too was faced with a war of aggression at the hour of our birth, and I can promise you, it only made us stronger for it.

The United States will extend diplomatic recogniction to the Republic of Albania, and your nation is welcome to establish an embassy in Washington if we may return the courtesy in Tirana. There are rumors afoot that the United States may organize a State Visit to European countries. Albania's gracious invitation will be sure to be noted should this occur.

Though I regret to inform you that the US budget for 1909 does not have the slack necessary for meaningful aid to your nation, you do have my assurance that some money will be headed your way in 1910.

Cordially yours,

Theodore Roosevelt

A letter to President Roosevelt

Dear Mr. Roosevelt,

What heartfelt words you have spoken, and I graceciously thank you for them. It has been very tough in the recent years, especislly considering I am the first President of Albania. I too hope it will make us stronger. uckily the Greeks and I have come to peace terms, and they will be reistating the pre-war borders, aswell as paying us for the rebuilding.

Of course you may establish an embassy in Tirana, as it was expected you would ask. It would only be fair. The embassy exchange will only create allow our relations to come closer, and our comunnication will be easier. I will soon be appointing the ambassador to the United States, and soon they shall decend upon your nation to establish an embassy.

I do hope, should these rumors be true, you come to our beautiful capital of Tirana and visit myself and my people. Albania is a lovely country, even throught the recent war. The Albania people would warmly welcome your presences, as would our government.

I am very pleased we will be recieving economic assistance from the United States of America. It is perfectly fine that it occurs next year, as I did not expect it to occur in 1909. By allowing us to continue to grow our economy, you deserve our eternal thanks.

I look forward to warm relations between our nations in the future.

Sincerly yours,
Turkhan Pasha
President, The Republic of Albania

King Haakon VII and the Norwegian government offer their best wishes to PResident Roosevelt and commend him on his handling of the attempted assassination. News of Roosevelt's demeanor throughout the situation only increases Norwegian approval of the United States, as popular opinion stands behind heads of state who display shows of bravery and ruggedness most Norwegians feel to be at the level of their own and the United states provides a welcome respite from the dreariness of European gamesmanship in the Balkans.

King Haakon VII expresses a wish to meet with President Roosevelt, in Norway if the American President wishes to experience the asotnishing natural wonders that Norway has to offer.

King Haakon VII and the Norwegian government offer their best wishes to PResident Roosevelt and commend him on his handling of the attempted assassination. News of Roosevelt's demeanor throughout the situation only increases Norwegian approval of the United States, as popular opinion stands behind heads of state who display shows of bravery and ruggedness most Norwegians feel to be at the level of their own and the United states provides a welcome respite from the dreariness of European gamesmanship in the Balkans.

King Haakon VII expresses a wish to meet with President Roosevelt, in Norway if the American President wishes to experience the asotnishing natural wonders that Norway has to offer.

King Haakon is informed that plans are in the works for Roosevelt to make a trip to Europe in 1910. The President would be most eager to meet with His Majesty and Norway will certainly be on the list of places to stop.

OOC: now that i have mentioned this trip for a second time, I need to actually start planning it. Tenative list of places is London, Paris, Madrid, Rome, Berlin, Oslo, Vienna, and Tirana. Shout off if you have any other suggestions.

A letter arrived from Copenhagen. This letter contained many topics snippets of the letter are included below.

"Due to the recent increase in production, technological advancedment has increased demand for resources, a particular resource in demand for internal developement is coal, having no current source of coal internally we find ourselves looking for international trade to meet internal demands. We understand that the United States of America as plentiful reserves of such resources so we propose a trading agreement in regards to supplying Denmarks energy needs through coal." (OOC: 1 unit coal for 1 build point? for 20 years?)

"We are also looking to modernise our navy, we are looking for 4 light cruisers to replace our aging CP fleet. After which we are also looking to purchase a Dreadnaught to replace our current BB2" (OOC: 4 points for 5 years)

and one final topic.

"It has also come to our attention that President Roosevelt is planning a European tour in 1910, we would like to officially extend an offer for him to visit Copenhagen during this tour. We where also saddened to hear of the assasination attempt but where glad that the attempt had failed and the demeanor and reaction of the president to it. This would be a great opportunity to foster growing diplomatic relationships between our nations."

The United States will be able to supply coal in accordance with this offer and open our shipyards for the construction of the requested light cruisers. Regretfully, Washington's policy right now does not allow the construction of dreadnaughts for foriegn governments as all avaliable workers are producing American ships of this class presently.

However, President Roosevelt sends his thanks for your warm regards and Copenhagen has been tentatively added to the list of sites to visit on the European tour.

OOC: you have the points to spare for building a dreadnaught? impressive I suppose. Ask again for that once the light cruisers are done--by 1911 circumstances may have changed. The coal deal and light cruisers are fine though.

IC: A letter is sent from Copenhagen thanking the President for his acceptance of the offers, while showing dissappointment at not being able to get the DN the response shows understanding that it might not be possible at the current time but shows hopes that the situation may change in the near future.

OOC: For DN it will cost the same as the 4 light cruisers (4 x 1pt ea/yr vs 4pt/yr). So I'll be able to afford to buy it.So it's just paying 4 pts per year for 5 years.

The Tsar and his entourage arrive by ship in New York in early December. He is escorted by civilian-dressed members of his Secret Police and a small honor guard of troops. After two days in New York, where the Tsar views the Statue of Liberty and tours the city, they embark on a train for Washington DC where Nicholas plans to meet with Rossevel and congratulate him on evading the assassin, as well as discuss matters of state.

Spain sends it's letter late due to a problem with communications. "We happily notice that you survived the assasin's attempts, and it seems that these anarchists are becoming even more brazen."

(Was at AWA.)

The Tsar and his entourage arrive by ship in New York in early December. He is escorted by civilian-dressed members of his Secret Police and a small honor guard of troops. After two days in New York, where the Tsar views the Statue of Liberty and tours the city, they embark on a train for Washington DC where Nicholas plans to meet with Rossevel and congratulate him on evading the assassin, as well as discuss matters of state.

Roosevelt will greet the Czar after the Russians have toured the Washington Monument and Capitol Building. He will provide the tour of the White House himself before stopping for a discussion in the his office. Secret Service agents have a bemused look on their faces as the greet their Russian counterparts--it is the first time in History that the Secret Service has guarded a meeting of two heads of state since their mission expanded to protecting the President.

Roosevelt will greet the Czar after the Russians have toured the Washington Monument and Capitol Building. He will provide the tour of the White House himself before stopping for a discussion in the his office. Secret Service agents have a bemused look on their faces as the greet their Russian counterparts--it is the first time in History that the Secret Service has guarded a meeting of two heads of state since their mission expanded to protecting the President.

For their part, the Tsar's Secret Police bodyguards are slightly shocked when they find out that the Secret Service doesn't keep tabs on the American people. However, they are pleased to meet some people who have to do the same things they do and ask if the Secret Service would like some advice as the Secret Police have doing this sort of thing for quite some time.

The Tsar has a pleasant time in Washington and is suitably impressed by the White House. His own palace is larger, but he was not expecting the leader of the world's largest democracy to live as riichly as he does.

During his discussions with Roosevelt, the Tsar compliments him on the industry and businesses so prevelant throughout the US. He is already encouraging growth in Russia, but it will be some time before Russia is fully industrialized. He also asks Roosevelt if he knows of any American doctors who might be able to help his son, Alexei who has suffered from illness for quite some time.

After this leg of the journey, the Tsar plans to tour New England, then take a train west for a few days in order to see the Great Plains and compare them to the rolling steppes of Russia.

Military Expenditures:
4 New Dreadnaughts (year 1 of 3)--16 points
Continue Construction on 6 Dreadnaughts (2 on year 3 of 3 and 4 on year 2 of 3)--24 points
10 New Battlecruisers (year 1 of 3)--40 points
8 Battlecruisers--32 points (4 at year 3 of 3 and 4 at year 2 of 3)
3 New Light Cruisers--3 points (year 1 of 2)
3 Light Cruisers--3 points (year 2 of 2)
4 Motor Torpedo Boat Flotillas--4 points (3 to replace tech 4.5 flotillas)
2 Light Cruisers for Brazil--2 points (year 1 of 2)
1 Escort Flotilla--4 points
Naval Yard at Charleston--6 points (24/24 points)
Research Long Range Submarines--12 points
Total: 146 points

OOC: I paid for all my ships. I was just asking for you to build them so they could be Tech Level 5. I'm not going to mooch off you, man.

The Greek Minister for Finance sends a telegram to the US Gov't:

We would like to loan any amount of points from you, in increments of 3, in order to increase our mercantile shipping, and improve the quality of many of our ships, to allow them to travel through international waters. If so desired, we will repay with interest.

OOC: I paid for all my ships. I was just asking for you to build them so they could be Tech Level 5. I'm not going to mooch off you, man.

ha ha! looking a gift horse in the mouth huh? Well, if you paid for your ships in 1909, at least let me toss you a couple points in aid for 1910--i've got to look out for my little brothers down south, dont I?

The Greek Minister for Finance sends a telegram to the US Gov't:

We would like to loan any amount of points from you, in increments of 3, in order to increase our mercantile shipping, and improve the quality of many of our ships, to allow them to travel through international waters. If so desired, we will repay with interest.

The United States will be able to loan points to Greece as soon as this nasty business in the Balkans is resolved. Though it is not the direct concern of Washington what action Athens takes concerning the various ultimatums levied on it, it would likely be best for all involved if this issue was finally put to rest.

OOC: I can start tossing you points in 1910--I have to check my budget for that year sometime later this week to see how much slack I have.

ha ha! looking a gift horse in the mouth huh? Well, if you paid for your ships in 1909, at least let me toss you a couple points in aid for 1910--i've got to look out for my little brothers down south, dont I?

OOC: Fine by me. The points probably go back into US shipyards for more ships but a good latino will never turn down easy money. :D

In related news the Pacific Trade Deal treaty is brought before the Senate and surprisingly stalls before it can be brought to a serious vote. Debate on the subject seems to take the line that the United States is too involved in keeping neighbors pacified to seriously consider such a wide-ranging deal to the four corners of the globe. Roosevelt, knowing a battle not worth fighting when he sees one, decides to save his political capital for an announcement he is planning in the next few months. Australia is assured that Washington does indeed desire closer ties, but that perhaps there are other, less far reaching schemes that could be considered.

ooc: You have no idea how long it took me to find this post.

*The Australian Government responds with a statement, suggesting that if the US government was never interested in international agreements in the first place, it should stop wasting Australian time and mention at the out set so that the ministry can move on to other potential trade partners, such as South Africa.*

*It ends with this line:*

"Would the US prefer to inform the nations of Russia and Brazil herself, or should that duty fall to the diplomats of Australia?"

ooc: You have no idea how long it took me to find this post.

*The Australian Government responds with a statement, suggesting that if the US government was never interested in international agreements in the first place, it should stop wasting Australian time and mention at the out set so that the ministry can move on to other potential trade partners, such as South Africa.*

*It ends with this line:*

"Would the US prefer to inform the nations of Russia and Brazil herself, or should that duty fall to the diplomats of Australia?"

OOC: sorry it took so long to find that post--nasty side-effect of having 12 pages worth of stuff this soon.

IC: The Australians are gently reminded by the Roosevelt Administration that while it had every intention of joining the Pacific Trade Pact, it must be understood that in a democracy like the United States, legislatures may stand in the best of intentions. An informal apology is passed along, but it is pointed out that the official British request for the treaty to not pass may have swung enough votes in the Senate to make a difference...Perhaps Australia should take that sort of interference in its affairs more seriously?

However, the United States will remind Russia and Brazil that the treaty is void. The Australians have been put through enough trouble as it is.

For their part, the Tsar's Secret Police bodyguards are slightly shocked when they find out that the Secret Service doesn't keep tabs on the American people. However, they are pleased to meet some people who have to do the same things they do and ask if the Secret Service would like some advice as the Secret Police have doing this sort of thing for quite some time.

The Tsar has a pleasant time in Washington and is suitably impressed by the White House. His own palace is larger, but he was not expecting the leader of the world's largest democracy to live as riichly as he does.

During his discussions with Roosevelt, the Tsar compliments him on the industry and businesses so prevelant throughout the US. He is already encouraging growth in Russia, but it will be some time before Russia is fully industrialized. He also asks Roosevelt if he knows of any American doctors who might be able to help his son, Alexei who has suffered from illness for quite some time.

After this leg of the journey, the Tsar plans to tour New England, then take a train west for a few days in order to see the Great Plains and compare them to the rolling steppes of Russia.

On the train ride west, it is suggested that a short detour be made to Detroit to visit Henry Ford's factory and to observe the assembly lines. Mr. Ford would be most pleased to greet someone so important as the Czar of Russia.

On the train ride west, it is suggested that a short detour be made to Detroit to visit Henry Ford's factory and to observe the assembly lines. Mr. Ford would be most pleased to greet someone so important as the Czar of Russia.


The Tsar likes the suggestion and orders a detour to Detroit. His honor guard of Guards soldiers and Secret Police, handpicked for this journey by the Tsar himself, are constantly alert, expecially after the attempt on Roosevelt's life earlier in the month.

On the train ride west, it is suggested that a short detour be made to Detroit to visit Henry Ford's factory and to observe the assembly lines. Mr. Ford would be most pleased to greet someone so important as the Czar of Russia.

OOC: And as anti-Semitic...

Parthini;11739849']OOC: And as anti-Semitic...

OOC: lol, that too

The Tsar likes the suggestion and orders a detour to Detroit. His honor guard of Guards soldiers and Secret Police, handpicked for this journey by the Tsar himself, are constantly alert, expecially after the attempt on Roosevelt's life earlier in the month.

OOC: eek, I forgot that the attack was in that area. Nervousness I suppose is quite logical...if something happens I'll be all sorts of embarrassed.

IC: NSA and Secret Service agents offer to assist the Russian secret police in their efforts. If nothing else, it would serve as a good training exercise for the American organization with only 3 years of experience.

In Summer of 1909 the United States announces that President Roosevelt will be making a state visit to Europe in a year's time. It is high time that the USA take its formal place in the world and deal in diplomacy with the other Great Powers directly. Tentative sites to be visited include London, Paris, Madrid, Milan, Berlin, Vienna, Copenhagen, Tirana, Oslo and Istanbul. Time constraints, especially on travel time to Europe and back, limit the list, though TR is reportedly disappointed in the plan not reaching far enough for his tastes. Washington awaits input on the plan.

The Tsar and his secret police happily accept the assistance from thr Secret Service.

The Russian government asks that even if time restraints mean that Roosevelt can't make it to St. Petersburg, that he at the very least stops in at Odessa or Warsaw.

SPain would be honored for the President to visit Madrid. We are sure that the SPanish people will welcome the United States in our return to peace despite the events of a decade ago. And we would also like to discuss certain things that would be best discussed between national leaders anyways.

The Tsar and his secret police happily accept the assistance from thr Secret Service.

The Russian government asks that even if time restraints mean that Roosevelt can't make it to St. Petersburg, that he at the very least stops in at Odessa or Warsaw.

OOC: oh damn it, I knew that list was going to be screwed up as soon as I posted it. I meant to have a Russian city on it. Assume Warsaw was listed already please.

1910 Builds:

Industry: 142
Commerce: 48
Domestic Resources: 67
Colonial Resources: 12
Foreign Resources (client states): 11
Unused Oil: 13
Unused Coal: 6 (7 coal to France and 1 coal to Britain for 8 points--14)
Domestic Food Sales: 23.2
Colonial Food Sales: 1.7
--331.9 Points to Spend--

Market Economy Government Cuts Mode = 5% growth
--13.52 Additional Production Centers in 1911--

Population Growth
--1 million by 1911--

Domestic Expenditures:
Level 2 Social Safety Net for US--19.2 points
Level 2 Social Safety Net for Cuba--0.25 points
Level 2 Social Safety Net for Haiti--0.25 points
Level 1 Social Safety Net for Philippines--0.75 points
Upkeep Intelligence Agency--5 points
Other Intel Missions--4 points
Total--29.45 points

Maintenence Costs:
US Navy=31.15 points
US Army=5.45
US Army Reserve=9.25
US Marine Corps=1.5 points
Total Maintenence--47.35

Military Expenditures:
5 New Dreadnaughts (year 1 of 3)--20 points
Continue Construction on 8 Dreadnaughts (4 on year 3 of 3 and 4 on year 2 of 3)--32 points
14 Battlecruisers--56 points (4 at year 3 of 3 and 10 at year 2 of 3)
9 New Light Cruisers--9 points (year 1 of 2) (to replace tech 4 CPs)
4 Light Cruisers--4 points (year 2 of 2)
5 Motor Torpedo Boat Flotillas--5 points (to replace tech 4 flotillas)
1 Escort Flotilla--4 points
4 Long Range Submarine Flotillas--32 points
Upgrade 2 Militia Cavalry Divisions to Reserve Cavalry--4 points
Upgrade 2 Infantry Divisions to Infantry Corps--4 points
1 Cavalry Division--3 points
1 Coast Defense Unit (for Panama)--3 points
1 Light Infantry Brigade--1 point
1 Marine Brigade--2 points
Superdreadnaught Research--12 points
Total: 191 points

Foreign Expenditures:
Panama Canal Construction--2 points
Aid to Argentina--12 points
Aid to Brazil--9 points
Aid to Haiti and Cuba--Upkeep 2 Garrison Units (one each)-0.5 points
Aid to Haiti--15 points for production center (year 3 of 4)
Aid to Siam--8 points
Secret: Aid to KMT--5 points
Aid to Republic of China--5 points
Aid to Albania--4 points
Aid to Greece--3 points
Total: 63.5 points

Totals: 29.45 + 47.35 + 191 + 63.5 = 331.3
0.6 points left in reserve--0.5 used for security during Roosevelt's trip to Europe

OOC: oh damn it, I knew that list was going to be screwed up as soon as I posted it. I meant to have a Russian city on it. Assume Warsaw was listed already please.

Righto.

SIC:

Chaing Kai Shek asks President Roosevelt in a respectfully worded letter to reconsider the matter of the recognition of the Republic of China. He notes that "the current aid to the KMT given by the United States is generous and verily appreciated, but formal recognition would be a powerful instrument in aiding the RoC in these troubled times, especially with the threat of the Qing dictatorship returning to power in the form of Yuan Shikai and the threat of China being completely subsumed by European greed.

If possible, should Congress find trouble recognizing the RoC as owning all of China, then recognizing it as only commanding Fujian, Guangdong, Shandong, Hunan, Zhejiang, Jiangxi and Guangxi Provinces would be necessary--and, America would get easier access to the cities of Foochow, and possibly Canton. And, with some ships coming in, we would be able to assure protection for your traders."

Siam requests that Siamese officers be allowed to observe US Army and Navy excerises, and that the US send a small number of naval officers to Siam to train the nascent Siamese navy.

Also, Siam requests a general permission to purchase American ships, include a destroyer group in 1910. (OOC: don't want to have to post every time I build a naval unit)

OOC: Just wondering if the Danish Light Cruisers are accounted for in that.. Not that they affect your economy but I just want to be assured that, yes they are being built

The Chinese Missionary Society (a group of Protestant Churches that fund American missionary efforts in China) as well as business leaders begin pressuring Congress and the President to prevent the European powers and Japan from carving up China.

ooc
US official policy is the Open Door Policy, which is to prevent exactly what the groups above are worried about. Also, the US has treaty port status at both Tientsin and Shanghai, and special status on the Yangtze River (watch the movie Sand Pebbles some time).

Alfred Deakin, Australian Prime Minister, wishes to invite the American Great WHite Fleet to visit our ports of Melbourne and Sydney to show the friendship and brotherhood between the Australian and American peoples

Uh.. this is an E20 thread (denoted by the "E20:"), and so is only open to people particpating in the E20 world.

For more information you might want to check out the following thread
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=497568

It basically describes e20 and has links to the main threads, such as Economic and war threads

OOC: Just wondering if the Danish Light Cruisers are accounted for in that.. Not that they affect your economy but I just want to be assured that, yes they are being built

OOC: Yes, Danish light cruisers have permission to be built. I generally dont denote foriegn ships being constructed in my builds unless I was the one that funded them.

Siam requests that Siamese officers be allowed to observe US Army and Navy excerises, and that the US send a small number of naval officers to Siam to train the nascent Siamese navy.

Also, Siam requests a general permission to purchase American ships, include a destroyer group in 1910. (OOC: don't want to have to post every time I build a naval unit)

A Roosevelt Administration that is slowly beginning to become more aware of events in Asia, and the need to have friendly nations in the area (as the Caribbean and Europe begin to calm down) agrees to all the Siamese requests.

OOC: assume you have permission to build ships, but not dreads, superdreads, or subs until further notice. US isnt making those real wide spread unless it can help it. This is not to say that they will never be made available, so if you find a real urgent need for these, ask again.

SIC:

Chaing Kai Shek asks President Roosevelt in a respectfully worded letter to reconsider the matter of the recognition of the Republic of China. He notes that "the current aid to the KMT given by the United States is generous and verily appreciated, but formal recognition would be a powerful instrument in aiding the RoC in these troubled times, especially with the threat of the Qing dictatorship returning to power in the form of Yuan Shikai and the threat of China being completely subsumed by European greed.

If possible, should Congress find trouble recognizing the RoC as owning all of China, then recognizing it as only commanding Fujian, Guangdong, Shandong, Hunan, Zhejiang, Jiangxi and Guangxi Provinces would be necessary--and, America would get easier access to the cities of Foochow, and possibly Canton. And, with some ships coming in, we would be able to assure protection for your traders."

The Chinese Missionary Society (a group of Protestant Churches that fund American missionary efforts in China) as well as business leaders begin pressuring Congress and the President to prevent the European powers and Japan from carving up China.

ooc
US official policy is the Open Door Policy, which is to prevent exactly what the groups above are worried about. Also, the US has treaty port status at both Tientsin and Shanghai, and special status on the Yangtze River (watch the movie Sand Pebbles some time).

The United States formally recognizes the Republic of China effective January 1st, 1910 as comprising of Fujian, Guangdong, Shandong, Hunan, Zhejiang, Jiangxi and Guangxi Provinces. Any foreign violation of this territory will be looked upon most unfavorably. In addition, Washington recognizes the Republic's vested interest in reunifying all the territories of the recently shattered Chinese Empire.

Although the US urges France, Germany, Britain, Russia, and Japan to cease their expansion immediately and Roosevelt is rather disdainful of the mad scramble going on right now for territory in the area, no formal condemnation of the Europeans and Japanese are made concerning their current possessions. At the same time, Berlin and London are contacted concerning the continuation of treaty port status in Tientsin and Shanghai.

As a gesture of solidarity with the new Republic, an aid package is rammed through Congress (totalling in game terms 5 points--this is in addition to the secret aid already listed in the 1910 build). That nation also has permission to use US shipyards to build for ships for itself.

Argentina quietly contacts the US and asks the US whether it would look favorably upon Argentinian recongition of the Republic of China.

Argentina quietly contacts the US and asks the US whether it would look favorably upon Argentinian recongition of the Republic of China.

Washington would look on such an action most favorably, and in fact encourages it...

As a gesture of solidarity with the new Republic, an aid package is rammed through Congress (totalling in game terms 5 points--this is in addition to the secret aid already listed in the 1910 build). That nation also has permission to use US shipyards to build for ships for itself.

OOC: Would I edit this into this year's build?

OOC: Would I edit this into this year's build?

OOC: Those points are to be given and used in 1910.

SPain sends a message to the United States, making a request for a meeting that would be under the heading of a discussion over natural resource supplies during a time of war.

In April of 1910, President Roosevelt departs for the United Kingdom aboard a steamer at the start of his European Tour. It is the first time in history for a sitting president of the United States to visit that continent. Escorting the President is a fleet of US Warships, including 4 Dreadnaughts, 12 Battleships, and 40 destroyers, all painted up for the occasion in a stunning white coat of paint. The fleet plans on making ports of call in Southampton, Brest, Kiel, Amsterdam and St. Petersburg while the President continues on his tour. American sailors make a great show of greating European citizens and distributing treats like Hersheys chocolate bars.

During the President's absence though, it is business as usual for the American people. Economic growth for 1910 is still quite robust, though slightly down from previous years. However, more on the minds of citizens now are tales of Roosevelt charming the Europeans, and the "mess" in China. When talk turns to the Caribbean, positions are mixed between those few who believe the US is overstepping its bounds, to the majority backing American intervention for peacekeeping purposes, to another minority believing the Caribbean is too unstable to govern itself and should be turned into a US protectorate. The division in Congress over the issue falls along similar lines.

SPain sends a message to the United States, making a request for a meeting that would be under the heading of a discussion over natural resource supplies during a time of war.

The Spanish are assured in a telegram that President Roosevelt will discuss the subject when he visits Madrid later this summer.

OOC: assume you have permission to build ships, but not dreads, superdreads, or subs until further notice. US isnt making those real wide spread unless it can help it. This is not to say that they will never be made available, so if you find a real urgent need for these, ask again.

Siam asks for permission to commission a superdreadnaught from America in 1912. The King, in his letter to the United States, says that he wishes for Siam to possess "one of the greatest ships to ever sail the seas" in order to "mark it as a modern nation, equal to those in Europe." He concludes his plea with this:

"I am a dying man, and no doubt I will soon join my ancestors. I have seen the British and pestilential French treat Siam, a nation with a history equal to any in the world, as a dog to be kicked. Now even mighty China, with its unconquerable hordes, treated as such a dog. I would have it known that my deathwish was for Siam to enter a new age, marked by a ship equal to any in Europe in our hands."

Two days after writing this letter, the King dies.

Spanish merchents flock to the United States to buy coal from American businessmen in large numbers. The Spanish government reminds them that shipping in Spain is mostly local, but they don't mind. This forces the Spanish govenrment to build large amounts of shipping.

OOC - Are you not going to visit me? :(

OOC - Are you not going to visit me? :(

OOC: Athens and other major Greek cities are unfortunately kinda out of the way considering the schedule I am trying to put together. However, I have built in some extra time on travel between cities, and to move from Albania to the Ottoman Empire will mean crossing Greek territory. I will make a post on your thread about a quick layover--sorry about forgetting.

[OOC- I am correct in assuming Oslo is otwards the tail-end of the trip?]

OOC: I think you are the last, In the Germany -> Denmark -> Norway -> USA

Check out the German thread.

OOC: I think you are the last, In the Germany -> Denmark -> Norway -> USA

Check out the German thread.

OOC: tis correct. I feel so famous with everybody following this thing!

tee hee hee...

OOC: tis correct. I feel so famous with everybody following this thing!

tee hee hee...

not me, because SOMEONE decided not to visit us

not me, because SOMEONE decided not to visit us

Ah. Could have sworn the last time I checked that Japan wasnt a European nation... :rolleyes:

I'm sure before too long that TR or some other president will find his way to Asia though. Just not this time around.

The Austro-Hungarian Empire enquires if a loan of 11 Points may be taken out in 1911, to be repayed 2 points for 6 years starting in 1912.

Siam asks for permission to commission a superdreadnaught from America in 1912. The King, in his letter to the United States, says that he wishes for Siam to possess "one of the greatest ships to ever sail the seas" in order to "mark it as a modern nation, equal to those in Europe." He concludes his plea with this:

"I am a dying man, and no doubt I will soon join my ancestors. I have seen the British and pestilential French treat Siam, a nation with a history equal to any in the world, as a dog to be kicked. Now even mighty China, with its unconquerable hordes, treated as such a dog. I would have it known that my deathwish was for Siam to enter a new age, marked by a ship equal to any in Europe in our hands."

Two days after writing this letter, the King dies.

The United States sends its condolances to the Siamese people concerning the death of the king. However, there are many in Washington who are a little exasperated at the continued requests for what is apparently only a "shiny toy" to play with.

Siam is reminded that it is currently American policy to open its shipyards for the construction of warships for its friends that include Siam. The only vessels that are off-limits are dreadnaughts, superdreadnaughts, and superbattlecruisers.

Siam is encouraged to invest the money that would be spent on a dreadnaught on a flotilla or two of destroyers and cruisers for a far more well rounded defense of their nation.

The United States sends its condolances to the Siamese people concerning the death of the king. However, there are many in Washington who are a little exasperated at the continued requests for what is apparently only a "shiny toy" to play with.

Siam is reminded that it is currently American policy to open its shipyards for the construction of warships for its friends that include Siam. The only vessels that are off-limits are dreadnaughts, superdreadnaughts, and superbattlecruisers.

Siam is encouraged to invest the money that would be spent on a dreadnaught on a flotilla or two of destroyers and cruisers for a far more well rounded defense of their nation.

In Siam, only the calming voice of the cabinet stops the King from breaking off connections with the United States entirely. Furious that his father's dying wishes are turned down with blatant lies and mocked as the request for a "shiny toy," the King turns a decidedly icy face towards the USA. The standing Siamese offer for US ships to stay in Bangkok is withdrawn.

(OOC: By the time the ship in question was completed, Siam would have had destroyers and several cruisers, and since France has threatened to level Bangkok with its heavy ships, defense against larger ships is a concern (making the dreadnought more than a "shiny toy".) US intelligence would know this, so the King views it as an American excuse to treat Siam as a third-rate nation to be kept weak until annexation or subjugation. You would have been much better off sticking with the "this is our policy" line. Aren't diplomatic gaffes fun?)

The RoC Navy makes a quiet purchase request to the US Government for 2 DD2, and 6 CLs. Funds shall be delivered upon confirmation.

This purchase is confirmed.

The Austro-Hungarian Empire enquires if a loan of 11 Points may be taken out in 1911, to be repayed 2 points for 6 years starting in 1912.

This loan is confirmed.

November 1910.

After another Congressional election that provides little change in the balance of power for the legislature, the Roosevelt Administration begins to focus more seriously on the chaos in Asia.

The US applauds the coming of peace with China concerning Russian and Japanese expansion. More quietly the British, Germans and French are thanked for halting as well. The Italians though, receive a mouthful of angry rhetoric, condemning their attacks on the Republic of China.

On December 1st 1910, the US, officially as a precautionary matter to shore up defenses in East Asia, orders the transfer of the following forces to the Philippines for a "show the flag" mission of unspecified duration:

4x Tech 4.5 Battleships: Minnesota, Vermont, Alabama, and Ohio
4x Tech 4.5 Armored Cruisers: Montana, North Carolina, Washington, Tennessee
8x Tech 4 Protected Cruisers: San Francisco, Baltimore, Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, Chattanooga, Cleveland, Denver, Des Moines
1x Tech 5 Destroyer Flotilla
1x Tech 4.5 Destroyer Flotilla
1x Long Range Sub Flotilla

In addition, a large aid package for the RoC is approved by the Republican dominated Congress (read: 15 points officially, with 10 more secret). Some Democrats lament that they have not made a major policy decision in over a decade but far more realize that Roosevelt is far closer to the center on domestic policy than other potential opponents, and vote along with the Republicans for now.

The Americans are thanked for their offer concerning Hainan, but France must reiterate that while it supports American policy in China, it cannot jeopardize relations with its only militarily powerful (read: lots of cannon fodder) ally in Europe. Surely the American government understands the French position?

The Americans are thanked for their offer concerning Hainan, but France must reiterate that while it supports American policy in China, it cannot jeopardize relations with its only militarily powerful (read: lots of cannon fodder) ally in Europe. Surely the American government understands the French position?

The US understands and that limited support is appreciated. Tacit approval for our policies is certainly an improvement over some of what has come from Paris in the recent past.

Italy grows increasingly preturbed by the fact that while the US may continually be demanding that Italy withdraw from China, it does not in regards to Russian, British, French, Portugese, and Japense incursions and possessions of lands that are traditionally Han Chinese.

Not only this, but one only needs to take a quick glance at the Carribbean to see the Hipocracy of the Americans arguements.

While Italy remains the only one being urged to leave, it shall remain there.

Italy grows increasingly preturbed by the fact that while the US may continually be demanding that Italy withdraw from China, it does not in regards to Russian, British, French, Portugese, and Japense incursions and possessions of lands that are traditionally Han Chinese.

Not only this, but one only needs to take a quick glance at the Carribbean to see the Hipocracy of the Americans arguements.

While Italy remains the only one being urged to leave, it shall remain there.

American policy was (and remains) for all nations moving in on China to cease their progress as of the beginning of 1910. No further claims by any foreign powers were to be made. Russia, Britain, France, Portugal, Germany and Japan have all done this (some admittedly more quickly than others). Furthermore, these gains were not made against governments that the United States currently recognizes. Italy however launched its invasion of a sovereign nation after persistant requests not to.

The presence of Europeans and the Japanese in China is not something Washington is pleased with. But the first step toward their removal is to stop the expansion of any other powers.

The US quietly offers to pay for some of the costs the Italians have suffered in moving to China if they withdraw from Fujian. Additional funds to salve the wounds to Italian pride could also be arranged...

OOC: call it a bribe if you like. Would 4-6 points be enough? give me an offer...

Unfortunatly, the idea of withdrawing from China at this point is very painful. No amount of money is easily capable of healing the wound that is international embarrassment.

We have attempted to strike a deal with the RoC, far more fair and balanced than ones they have recieved from other Nations of Europe. Unfortunatly they chose to turn this down and continue fighting.

Would the US have allowed France to make a mockery of them in the Carribbean? What would have happened to US prestige?

Ironically, the American aid will be invested back into American shipyards for the construction of Brazil's first destroyer flotilla.

The Brazilian Government also asks if American shipyards can construct another battlecruiser for the Brazilian Navy. All costs will be paid for by Brazil. Compliments are also given on how well the American builds did on the two Brazilian Light Cruisers that were finished last year.

OOC: Especially considering the South American shipyards still build ships with technoligy from the 1800's. All this ship construction for Brazil and Argentina must be doing wonders for your naval industry. By WW1, your workers will be able to build ships with their eyes closed :D

The Brazilian Government also asks if American shipyards can construct another battlecruiser for the Brazilian Navy. All costs will be paid for by Brazil. Compliments are also given on how well the American builds did on the two Brazilian Light Cruisers that were finished last year.

OOC: Especially considering the South American shipyards still build ships with technoligy from the 1800's. All this ship construction for Brazil and Argentina must be doing wonders for your naval industry. By WW1, your workers will be able to build ships with their eyes closed :D

OOC: Its true. I think the shipbuilding industry must be the biggest one in the entire nation.

IC: Brazil receives permission to build battlecruisers in US shipyards.

Unfortunatly, the idea of withdrawing from China at this point is very painful. No amount of money is easily capable of healing the wound that is international embarrassment.

We have attempted to strike a deal with the RoC, far more fair and balanced than ones they have recieved from other Nations of Europe. Unfortunatly they chose to turn this down and continue fighting.

Would the US have allowed France to make a mockery of them in the Carribbean? What would have happened to US prestige?

Italy would note that the issue between France and the US over Haiti was in fact resolved by negotiation.

More to the point then. If Italy would even go so far as to declare that it desires no more territory in China, the United States would be satisfied.

Note: Tech 4 Protected Cruisers are recalled before they pass the Caribbean. The idea of sending such old vessels on such a long voyage puts a bad taste in people's mouths. The battleship USS Ohio also turns back home.

Spain shows an interest in the 1911 investigation of the USS Maine, still clogging up Havana harbor. (This happens in 1911.) Spain has a curious investment, waiting for the United States itself to clear SPain's name. After all no order was ever given to destroy the Maine, and even people with half a brain know that SPain had no motivation to go to war with the United States in 1898. So the investigation holds a major importance to SPain.

(In truth they hold that a mine blew up the USS Maine, but the 1911 investigation showed considerable evidence that put that into question. It's the first time the United States actually starts to seriously question it's 1898 beliefs. ANd today the US is split into two camps though none of those believe that Spain mined the USS Maine. It's a Cuban subterfuge or a design flaw. So it'll be interesting to see. I think it's funny personally because the US investigaters go. "We believe a mine did sink the USS Maine." As they are lookign back and forth and coughing into their hands. Like they have to hide something. Funny really.)

Italy would note that the issue between France and the US over Haiti was in fact resolved by negotiation.

More to the point then. If Italy would even go so far as to declare that it desires no more territory in China, the United States would be satisfied.

Note: Tech 4 Protected Cruisers are recalled before they pass the Caribbean. The idea of sending such old vessels on such a long voyage puts a bad taste in people's mouths. The battleship USS Ohio also turns back home.

While we recently have launched an offensive, we would be happy with Fuzhou and with a 75mi radius. Especially since right now we are currently controlling the entire Fuijan province.

While we recently have launched an offensive, we would be happy with Fuzhou and with a 75mi radius. Especially since right now we are currently controlling the entire Fuijan province.

By the time this proposal reaches Washington, news begins to trickle in of the Republic of China's counter-attack. Eager to put a stop to the fighting before yet more soldiers are needlessly killed, the United States indicates that a withdrawal to this line would keep it quiet. Whether or not the Chinese find it acceptable is another matter.

Orders are further revised for the fleet contingent headed to Manila. The Tech 5 Destroyers continue to the Philippines, the Tech 4.5 Destroyers and Submarines rebase to Pearl Harbor, and all other ships (Battleships and armored cruisers) are to move to San Diego.

Chilean diplomats wish to enquire as to the possibility of American aid next year. We have made efforts to normalize relations with our neighbors and are currently focusing on improving our economy and the standard of living.

Chilean diplomats wish to enquire as to the possibility of American aid next year. We have made efforts to normalize relations with our neighbors and are currently focusing on improving our economy and the standard of living.

US economics for 1911 are still uncertain, but Washington appreciates the Chilean effort to normalize relations and should be able to send a small package your way (3 points)

Advancements in naval technology demand an overhaul of US naval possessions and plans for future construction.

Insert plans for sale of ships to Russia and OE. OE gets 2 BCs in 1912, Russia gets 8 BCs in 1911 and maybe 2 in 1912 and other stuff tbd. Cost is 6 points per ship.

The Brazilian Foreign Minister urgently requests that Washington help mediate peace talks in South America. Argentina has invaded Bolivia and our nation has demanded Argentine withdrawl but the imperialistic nation wants nothing but to secure a strangehold over Bolivia's government and economy. Although Brazil does not want American nations fighting each other, Argentina must be stopped now or it could end up invading Paraguay, Uruguay, and then maybe even Chile and Brazil!

News of the outbreak of war in South America takes Washington by surprise, as US officials scramble to make sense of what is going on and to develop a position. Opinions of the public and more importantly of Congress are mixed.

Could I get a TG from you GB concerning the balance of Congress on this issue? How far ppl are willing to go, etc? Thanks!

See NPC Thread for more details.

The Brazilian Foreign Minister urgently requests that Washington help mediate peace talks in South America. Argentina has invaded Bolivia and our nation has demanded Argentine withdrawl but the imperialistic nation wants nothing but to secure a strangehold over Bolivia's government and economy. Although Brazil does not want American nations fighting each other, Argentina must be stopped now or it could end up invading Paraguay, Uruguay, and then maybe even Chile and Brazil!

just responded to this effect on NPC thread

RUmania approaches the United States asking for a loan for either this year or the next.

RUmania approaches the United States asking for a loan for either this year or the next.

Budget for 1911 is still not done and is kinda full right now. 1912 would work better for me.

Russia thanks the US government for the battlecrusiers and promises to begin payment the next year.

Budget for 1911 is still not done and is kinda full right now. 1912 would work better for me.

Rumania would gladly take a loan for the next year.

A telegram arrives in Washington from Petrograd and is handed directly to Roosevelt by the Russian counsel. (Secret IC)

President Roosevelt,

By all acounts my brother and you had some form of friendship. I am sorrowed that he was killed only a few short months after you came and paid a visit to our great nation. However, I write to ask something of you. Russia is about to be involved in a major conflict with Germany, who are attacking us for fabricated reasons and lies. They are the ones who killed the Tsar and left his daughter without a family.

They use purely internal matters as an excuse for war. It would be as if England had intervened in your tragic Civil War. We will have need of food. Our shipments from mainland Europe will obviously be cut off. Our allies in China may be able to provide us with some, but it seems to me that we will have a food shortage.

So, I ask of you, please allows us to buy food on credit. We can repay America after the war. We still intend to pay your for the cruisers during the war. However, we will need everything we have concentrated on the war effort. Can and will you help us?

I await your reply,

Grand Duke Micheal, Regent of Imperial Russia

US economics for 1911 are still uncertain, but Washington appreciates the Chilean effort to normalize relations and should be able to send a small package your way (3 points)

We thank you greatly for this offer.

OOC: Is this for 1911 or 1912?

We thank you greatly for this offer.

OOC: Is this for 1911 or 1912?

OOC: 1912--all aid to south america is on hold in 1911 until this business concerning Bolivia is sorted out. The exception is three points to Peru b/c of a treaty that mandates I return those each year.

A telegram arrives in Washington from Petrograd and is handed directly to Roosevelt by the Russian counsel. (Secret IC)

President Roosevelt,

By all acounts my brother and you had some form of friendship. I am sorrowed that he was killed only a few short months after you came and paid a visit to our great nation. However, I write to ask something of you. Russia is about to be involved in a major conflict with Germany, who are attacking us for fabricated reasons and lies. They are the ones who killed the Tsar and left his daughter without a family.

They use purely internal matters as an excuse for war. It would be as if England had intervened in your tragic Civil War. We will have need of food. Our shipments from mainland Europe will obviously be cut off. Our allies in China may be able to provide us with some, but it seems to me that we will have a food shortage.

So, I ask of you, please allows us to buy food on credit. We can repay America after the war. We still intend to pay your for the cruisers during the war. However, we will need everything we have concentrated on the war effort. Can and will you help us?

I await your reply,

Grand Duke Micheal, Regent of Imperial Russia

The United States has declared neutrality in the developing conflict. However, this neutrality does not mean that it can or will sit by while other populations starve.

Putting our own merchant men in danger is the likely result if our ships attempt to use the Atlantic as a transportation lane. If food supplies were shipped to Vladivostok, would they be able to reach the Russian people?

OOC: Which reminds me, I havent actually declared neutrality! That will be the next post. I have just over 100 points of food to spare, and though I would like to make a profit if possible eventually, we can haggle on price later. I expect you have more important things to worry about...

With the outbreak of war in Europe, President Roosevelt's life quickly becomes more complicated. Officials from the State Department are assigned to making sure the Bolivian crisis is resolved quickly and quietly, and the deployments of the US fleet suddenly become a bigger priority. Oceans after all are rapidly going to become less friendly.

The United States declares itself a neutral in the growing conflict and insists that it will conduct trade and foriegn relations normally with both sides, even though Roosevelt and a few key other government officials are known to sympathize with the Russians...

The United States has declared neutrality in the developing conflict. However, this neutrality does not mean that it can or will sit by while other populations starve.

Putting our own merchant men in danger is the likely result if our ships attempt to use the Atlantic as a transportation lane. If food supplies were shipped to Vladivostok, would they be able to reach the Russian people?

OOC: Which reminds me, I havent actually declared neutrality! That will be the next post. I have just over 100 points of food to spare, and though I would like to make a profit if possible eventually, we can haggle on price later. I expect you have more important things to worry about...

Another note returns bearing a reply,

Unfortunately, the Trans-Siberian railroad does nto ahve the capacity we would like to ship all of the food we require. However, nuetral shipping is allowed to pass into the Black Sea via the Mediterrian. Your ships could come from the PAcific, through the Suez and then to the Black Sea along the Turkish coast. Although the long way around, it is low risk as you are close to nuetral ports. We do not believe the Germans or Austrians would be as foolish as to sink American shipping and incur the wrath of your great nation.



In other news, the Russian government has contracted Springfield Armory and Colt to produce rifles in the Russian caliber.

Spain offers it's network of travelling through the Mediterranian to get to the Suez Canal to supply Russia with food.

Another note returns bearing a reply,

Unfortunately, the Trans-Siberian railroad does nto ahve the capacity we would like to ship all of the food we require. However, nuetral shipping is allowed to pass into the Black Sea via the Mediterrian. Your ships could come from the PAcific, through the Suez and then to the Black Sea along the Turkish coast. Although the long way around, it is low risk as you are close to nuetral ports. We do not believe the Germans or Austrians would be as foolish as to sink American shipping and incur the wrath of your great nation.



In other news, the Russian government has contracted Springfield Armory and Colt to produce rifles in the Russian caliber.

As a neutral power, all warring nations are able to buy US made weapons. A few protests among pacifists develop but the powers of capitalism overwhelm the angry voices.

And in other news...

The United States declares that although it will recommend to its merchant men to avoid the hottest war zones, it expects all nations to respect its neutrality of trade during this crisis. Although the Baltic Sea will be too dangerous for the time being, the Atlantic should be kept safe for neutral powers. Shipping will move from the East Coast into the Med, and then to the Black Sea. The Spanish are thanked for the offer to use their ports as a stopping point on the way.

Rumania places an order for the Russian-caliber Springfield rifles, since the war will make impossible to buy the Russian weapons they have been using so far.